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A
A
A
B
All
right
welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting
we're
grateful
to
have
you
joining
us.
As
you
probably
have
seen,
we
continue
to
hold
electronic
meetings
due
to
the
practice
of
social
distancing.
B
Although
conducting
our
meetings
electronically
is
different
from
our
familiar
in-person
public
process,
this
is
still
considered
an
open
and
public
meeting
for
the
work
session.
We
welcome
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
on
the
council's
agenda.
Page
youtube,
slc,
tv
or
facebook
live.
B
As
many
of
you
know,
there
is
no
public
comment
during
a
work
session.
However,
please
join
us
at
the
7
p.m.
Formal
meeting
tonight
to
share
any
comments
you
have
on
the
public
hearing,
item
or
general
item.
Your
feedback
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
reach
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
in
p.o
box,
145476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,.
B
8414-5476
or
emailing
us
at
council
dot
comments
at
slc
slcgov.com
or
by
calling
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line
at
801-535-7654
welcome
mayor.
I
know
we
decided
to
sort
of
start
up
the
introductory
stuff
before
council,
chair
warden
could
join
us,
but
if
you
are
ready
mayor
and
your
team,
we
will
now
move
on
with
the
work
session
items.
B
I
think
number
one
is
the
informational
update
relating
to
the
mayor's
proclamations
declaring
local
emergencies
for
covet
19
march
earthquake
and
windstorm.
This
is
a
20-minute
briefing,
I
believe.
So
I
believe
we
have
mayor
aaron,
mendenhall,
chief
of
staff,
rachel,
otto
and
chief
administrative
officer.
Mrs
schaefer,
is
that
correct.
C
All
thank
you
I'll
get.
It
started
with
our
covet
update.
You
know
that
our
numbers
are
moving
in
the
wrong
direction
every
day
now
and
our
focus
is
continuing
on
making
sure
our
employees
are
safe.
Trying
to
get
our
residents
and
businesses
to
avax
have
access
to
all
the
resources
they
need
and
we
are
promoting
and
distributing
as
accurate
of
information
about
the
pandemic
on
a
continual
basis,
as
we
can.
C
C
We're
modeling
our
efforts
after
denver's
efforts
in
this
area,
they've
been
really
successful.
They've
also
been
a
good
partner
to
us,
providing
resources.
Help
us
understand
what
requirements
should
be
in
place
to
meet
regulations
to
the
for
the
international
building
and
fire
code.
In
doing
so,
so
we
hope
to
have
those
details
finalized
later
this
week
and
we
will
make
sure
the
council
is
appraised
before
we
issue
any
new
proclamations
on
to
digital
equity.
Our
last
piece,
thank
you,
council,
for
supporting
the
expansion
of
digital
equity
across
the
city.
C
The
city's
received
11
pieces
of
smart
furniture.
They
were
ordered
in
june
of
this
year,
funded
through
the
public
services,
youth
and
family
services,
division
and
ims
in
fiscal
year.
20.
they
arrived
just
before
the
windstorm,
so
it
wasn't
until
recent
recently
that
we've
had
the
staffing
to
uncrate
them
and
assemble
them.
Kim
thomas
is
working
with
facilities
on
installing
two
of
them
at
the
sorensen
unity
center.
This
month
and
kristen
reicher
and
her
team
are
mapping
out
the
additional
areas
for
installation
throughout
our
city's
parks
and
public
lands.
C
The
devices
all
use
solar
power
and
they'll
be
they
will
be
able
to
provide
free
public,
wi-fi
and
device
charging
once
they're
installed.
The
planned
installation
of
all
the
furnitures
is,
throughout
this
winter
and
they'll
be
ready
for
use
in
the
early
spring.
The
internet
backhaul
system
that
you've
funded
or
approved
the
funding
for
arrived
and
has
been
it's
in
the
hands
of
ims.
They
installed
the
backhaul
system
up
on
the
mountain
and
they
connected
it
to
plaza
349.
C
Just
last
week,
the
team's
meeting
with
park
and
public
lands
recently
and
mapping
out
where
the
potential
outdoor
sites
for
broadcasting
that
free
public
wi-fi
should
go.
The
first
three
pilot
areas
are
going
to
be
liberty,
pioneer
and
jordan
river
park.
Ims
is
also
searching
for
sites
where
wi-fi
can
be
available
in
the
winter
months
as
well.
C
Like
public
building
lobbies,
for
example,
the
city
connect
network
is
now
available
at
sorenson
unity,
center,
youth
and
family
administration
offices
and
plaza
349
and
rose
park,
connect
closed
when
the
libraries
opened
up
and
the
glendale
connect,
which
is
at
the
unity
center
lab,
is
currently
closed
due
to
increased
cove
numbers.
It's
important
for
us
to
remind
people
that
the
salt
lake
city,
public
library,
computer
labs,
are
closed
right
now
as
well.
C
C
C
Ims
has
developed
this
pretty
simple
and
managed
process,
and
they
would
only
need
more
equipment
and
funding
to
do
more
of
these
kind
of
labs
and
events
and,
finally,
our
digital
navigators
as
part
of
budget
budget.
Amendment
four
ims
worked
in
partnership
with
youth
and
family
services
and
they
have
requested
five
apprentice
positions
for
digital
navigators.
C
So
talks
are
in
the
initial
stages,
but
the
plan
is
that
these
apprentices
would
work
in
conjunction
with
salt
lake
city,
public
library's,
new
navigator
program
and
a
partnership
with
the
school
district,
we're
working
also
to
with
our
finance
office
and
the
attorney's
office
to
on
our
assets,
our
technology
assets,
so
that
we
can
donate
our
no
longer
used
computers
and
other
tech
assets
to
needs
in
the
community,
which
isn't
something
that
we
can
do
at
this
point.
C
A
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair,
and
it's
good
to
see
all
of
you
today
a
couple
items
we
wanted
to
update
you
on
during
the
second
item
on
your
agenda.
One
is
regarding
the
winter
shelter
options
and
then
two
is
just
a
quick
update
on
the
community
commitment
program.
D
So
on
the
first
item
regarding
winter
shelter,
as
you
may
have
heard
in
the
news
last
week,
the
salt
lake
valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness
had
identified
two
potential
winter
overflow
locations.
One
is
a
60
bed
facility
and
I
don't
know
that.
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
that
the
city
in
which
it
is
is
public
yet,
but
that
should
be
online
really
soon.
In
a
matter
of
a
few
days,
the
other,
which
was
identified
as
a
hotel
in
midvale,
has
not
been
particularly
well
received
by
midvale
city.
For
a
few
reasons,.
D
So
while
that
does
limit
the
options,
you
know
we're,
of
course,
still
cooperating
with
the
the
salt
lake
valley
coalition
and
homelessness
in
the
county
and
our
partners
to
to
help
identify
a
second
location
as
soon
as
possible.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
something
up
and
running
on
that
second
location.
Soon,
any
questions
about
that,
or
should
I
move
on
to
community
commitment
program.
B
Okay,
I'd
like
to
to
welcome
back
chair,
chair
wharton,
to
the
meeting
we're
on
update
number
two,
mr
chair.
E
D
Okay,
thanks
so
just
a
quick
update
on
the
community
commitment
program.
As
you
all
know,
we've
been
we
neared
or
we.
We
ended
the
third
week
of
daily
outreach
with
our
17
different
service
provider
partners
in
the
500
west
area
at
the
end
of
last
week,
and
the
rolling
list
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
that
were
encountered
in
that
area.
D
Equaled
about
166
people,
so
not
a
running
or
not
a
not
a
representation
of
the
number
of
people
sleeping
in
the
area
overnight,
but
the
number
of
people
who
were
encountered
there
over
that
three-week
period
of
those
166
people
around
40
were
willing
to
engage
in
conversation
with
service
providers
and
16
expressed
interest
in
finding
shelter
or
are
being
open
to
a
placement
and
shelter
or
other
service.
D
Unfortunately,
because
of
partly
because
of
covid
or
maybe
mostly
because
of
covet
and
some
impacts
that
covet
has
had
on
shelter
and
treatment
options
and
the
intake
capabilities,
shelter
hasn't
really
been
available
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
Luckily,
you
know
that's
changing
based
on
the
winter
shelter
locations
that
are
coming
online
and
the
fact
that
the
king
resource
center
has
been
able
to
reopen
to
intakes
over
the
last
week
or
so.
We
hope
that
that
stays,
you
know,
stays
the
same.
D
That's
it's
been
coveted
has
been
a
challenge
and
in
the
shelter
system,
as
as
I
know
you
all
are
aware,
we
have
seen
quite
an
increase
in
people
coupling
up
on
this
site,
so
outreach
teams
continue
to
make
it
their
priority
to
place
couples
in
motels,
as
we
are
waiting
for
more
shelter
options
to
come
available.
D
So
there
are
some
limitations
to
you
know
the
the
self-sufficiency
of
people
who
are
able
to
be
placed
into
motels,
but
service
providers
are,
you
know,
obviously
accustomed
to
helping
make
those
connections
whenever
it's
at
all
possible.
D
So
while
we
had
planned
on,
you
know
moving
forward
with
with
limiting
camping
from
this
area
this
week
or
last
week,
we
are
not
going
to
proceed
with
closing
that
area
to
camping.
Until
we
can
be
more
assured
that
we
have
enough
shelter,
space
and
provider
space
for
people
to
move
to
move
them
along
from
that
particular
area
right
now,
so
that's
where
we're
at
there-
and
we
are.
E
E
So
that
brings
us
to
ours.
Let's
see,
brings
us
to
agenda
item
number
three
correct:
yes,
okay,
three
great
and
so
joining
us
for
that
we
have
allison
roland
from
city,
council
staff
and
ben
ludke
council
policy,
analyst
for
an
update
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
F
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
going
to
give
a
quick
update
on
the
racial
equity
and
policing
or
rep
commission
they're.
Just
three
items
I
want
to
mention.
The
first
is
that
the
commission's
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
tomorrow
november
18th
at
5
pm.
The
agenda
will
include
reports
from
the
subcommittee
meetings.
They
have
three
subcommittees
school
safety
officer,
training
and
police
policy
and
practice.
F
F
The
second
item
is
just
a
reminder
that
these
meetings
are
hosted
by
the
salt
lake
city,
library
and
they're.
Open
to
the
public.
People
can
listen
on
a
youtube
channel
called
slc
rep
commission.
You
can
just
search
it
on
youtube
and
you'll,
find
it
or
you
can
refer
to
documents
that
the
council
staff
has
provided.
F
F
So,
as
the
commission
staff
develops,
this
information
council
staff
will
work
with
council
members
to
include
information
in
your
email,
newsletters
in
the
city,
social
media
posts
and
through
posters
or
other
sorts
of
information
that
we
can
put
in
public
places.
So
that's
the
only
information
I
need
to
tell
you
about.
Unless
there
are
any
questions.
B
Sorry
alison,
would
you
mind
repeating
the
the
facebook
link
to
their
the
live
feed
for
the
commission.
F
Sure
it's
actually
a
youtube
channel.
Excuse
scooby
youtube!
Yes,
yes,
and
if
you
just
type
in
slc,
rep,
commission
it'll
pop
up,
I
could,
I
could
repeat
the
details
of
the
of
the
link,
but
I
think
that's
harder
than
just
finding
it.
G
G
G
G
Some
of
the
ideas
that
are
being
explored
are
an
anonymous
feedback
mechanism
and
this
could
be
for
members
of
the
public,
as
well
as
for
city
employees,
small
group
meetings,
facilitated
or
interested
parties,
regular
updates
to
the
council
website.
There
is
a
dedicated
web
page
for
the
audit
that
will
be
updated
as
it
progresses,
as
well
as
updates
sent
to
the
racial
equity
and
policing
email
list
that
the
council
office
maintains,
which
the
last
time
I
checked
had
over
4500
email
addresses
people
who've
signed
up
to
stay
informed.
G
After
the
members
of
the
selection
committee
meet
with
leadership
of
the
firm,
if
the
adjustments
to
the
scope
are
able
to
be
addressed
as
well
as
clarification
on
the
zero-based
budgeting
process,
there
is
not
one
zero-based
budgeting
process.
There
are
many
ways
to
do
it
and
that's
part
of
what
the
discussion
will
be
about
and
you
need
to
go
through
finalization
of
engagement
and
I
see
cindy
came
on.
She
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that
better,
but
I
would
anticipate
that
process
would
at
least
take
a
couple
weeks.
I
Yeah
and
what
we're
asking
today
is
for
the
council
to
authorize
us
since
there's
a
gap
between
your
next
meetings.
I
We
were
hoping
that
you
could
authorize
us
to
continue
to
move
full
speed
ahead
on
this,
and
then
we
can
email
you
as
as
soon
as
we
get
the
completed
the
refined
scope
of
work
and
then
that,
of
course,
can
be
posted
on
the
web
as
soon
as
we
get
informal
feedback
from
council
members
on
it.
We're
fortunate
that
we
have
some
more
flexibility
in
this
process
than
in
a
typical
rfp,
because
the
firms
that
we
went
out
to
are
already
on
contract
with
the
city
council.
I
I
We
have
to
be
careful
about
the
cost,
but
but
we
do
have
that
flexibility,
so
we're
asking
if
it's
okay,
if
we
keep
moving
and
keep
working
with
the
firm,
even
though
we
won't
have
signed
the
official
engagement
letter,
I
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
the
firm
is
already
looking
at
our
issues
and
they
have
all
of
the
documentation
of
previous
audits
and
and
that
type
of
a
thing.
I
So
so
I
don't
think,
there's
any
delay
at
all
that
we're
seeing
here
just
reporting
to
you
on
the
status.
I
E
Okay,
so
the
can
you
specify
a
little
bit
more
about.
J
I
just
think
the
strap
is
that
we
continue
to
go
looking
at
this
particular
firm
so
that
we
can
get
the
engagement
letter
before
we
get
it
started
before
and
not
have
to
wait
until
our
next
council
meeting.
E
Great
everyone
understand
the
straw
poll.
Anyone
have
any
questions.
Okay,
go
ahead
and
indicate
you're.
Okay,
I'm
we
got
councilmember
johnson,
yes,
fowlers,
yes,
mono's!
Yes,
dugan
is
yes.
James.
James
is
a
yes
and
I'm
yes
as
well.
So
that's
unanimous
with
with
councilmember
voldemort
being
absent.
E
B
This
is
a
question,
maybe
comment,
I'm
not
sure.
I'm
assuming
this
will
take
several
weeks
as
ben
mentioned,
and
we're
going
to
need
as
a
council
or
council
leadership
in
danny
wherever
the
leadership
is
to
work
with
the
staff
to
lay
out
a
time
frame
for
brazil-based
budgeting
process,
because
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
months,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
time
in
there
in
this
world.
Is
that
accurate
to
say.
I
Yeah,
I
think
it'll
a
huge
amount
of
it
will
depend
on
the
police
department's
capacity
to
respond
and
the
finance
department's
capacity
to
respond,
and
so
we
have
tried
to
keep
them
in
the
loop
all
the
way
through
this
and
we
the
the
mayor's
office,
the
police
department,
finance.
We
will
include
them
all
along
the
way
so
that
there
aren't
surprises,
and
that
type
of
thing.
I
So
so
we
can
lay
out
a
schedule,
but
the
the
variable
is
is
that
ability
to
respond,
and
so
we
wouldn't
want
to
lay
out
the
schedule
absent
there
having
a
look
at
what
is
going
to
be
needed
from
them
and
having
a
chance
to
figure
out
how
how
they'll
respond,
hopefully
they'll
be
willing
to
identify
a
contact
person
in
the
department
and
and
and
that
type
of
a
thing
so
that
we
can
have
a
smooth
way
to
to
move
ahead
and
get
that
time
frame.
I
B
I
know
we
don't
know
exactly
what
a
zero-based
audit
process
looks
like
in
this
budgeting
process
looks
like
in
this
case,
but
I'm
assuming
that's
going
to
happen
concurrent
with
them
forming
a
budget
for
next
year,
because
they
got
to
start
that
fairly
soon
into
the
new
year.
We
have
any
sense
of
that
either.
I
Yeah,
I
certainly
the
mayor's
office
can
address
that
better,
but
typically
administrations
begin
their
budget
process
in
january.
I
What
what
will
happen
with
this
is
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
additional
information
that
will
be
available
to
all
of
the
elected
officials
as
you
go
through
the
budget
process,
so
perhaps
toward
the
end
of
the
mayor's
part
of
the
process
and-
and
hopefully
by
the
time
the
council
has
the
budget,
any
questions
that
you
have
about
staffing
levels
or
what
units,
what
the
cost
of
a
a
service
that's
being
delivered
or
a
unit
units
operation.
G
To
to
rephrase
what
cindy
said,
the
council
will
have
an
opportunity
to
give
objectives
such
as
I'm
making
one
up
here
having
the
social
worker
program
available.
24
7
for
co-response,
and
the
information
from
the
audit
would
provide
the
cost
for
each
social
worker
and
the
associated
police
officer,
and
it
would
have
built
in
to
the
spreadsheet
a
formula
to
scale
up
or
scale
down
to
meet
the
council's
objective.
G
So,
depending
on
the
information
we
get
from
the
audit
and
the
spreadsheet,
some
of
it,
we
may
be
able
to
do
on
the
fly,
live
during
briefings
and
other
bits.
We
may
need
time
to
go
back,
confirm
information
and
then
return
to
the
council,
but
we
envision
a
process,
that's
iterative
and
where
the
council
has
the
flexibility
for
exploring
those
scenarios
to
find
what
the
council
prefers.
I
And-
and
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
we
won't
be
doing
that
in
a
silo
or
a
black
box,
the
months
between
january
february
march
april,
that
all
of
the
data
will
come
from
the
administration.
I
So
it
is,
it
isn't
like
they'll,
be
in
the
dark
and
we
would
be
imposing
something
on
them.
It
would
be
that
they
would
have
the
information
at
the
same
time
that
the
consultants
are
developing
it,
so
so
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
have
have
a
really
good
partnership
there
on
that
and
so
far
we've
it's
been
just
great
and
one
of
the
things
also
that
ben
mentioned
was
the
possibility
of
the
anonymous
phone
line
and
and
anonymous
email
capability
or
input.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
email,
whatever
some
sort
of
way
for
people
to
to
not
be
identified
if
they
don't
want
to
be
identified,
and
that
will
we
hope,
really
allow
for.
Even
you
know,
city
staff
members,
whether
they
be
in
the
police
department
in
the
finance
department,
in
any
other
department,
to
share
their
their
ideas,
their
thoughts,
their
concerns,
so
we're
trying
to
make
that,
along
with
the
webpage
that
our
staff
has
developed,
make
it
a
really
transparent
process.
So
that's
the.
B
Hope.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
For
that
time.
There's
a
lot
of
questions.
I
think
we
have
to
sort
of
discuss
in
january.
It
sounds
like
starting
about
how
this
plays
out
with
the
administrative
authority
to
organize
and
administer
the
department
with
our
budget
and
policy
authority
is
going
to
be
interesting.
So
thanks
I'll
wait
until
the
next
council
leadership.
E
Okay,
thanks
so
much
ben
for
your
hard
work
and
thank
you
allison
as
well,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
our
fourth
agenda
item,
which
is
budget
amendment
number
four
for
the
fiscal
year,
2020
to
2021
follow-up
and
joining
us.
For
this
we
have
ben
again
from
the
council
office,
mary
beth
thompson,
john
bike
city
budget,
director
blake,
thomas
director
of
can
lonnie
eggerson
goff
director
of
hand,
jennifer
schumann,
deputy
director
of
hand,
michelle
hoon,
homeless,
services,
project
manager
and
tony
milner
hand,
policy
and
program
manager.
G
This
is
the
second
briefing
for
budget
amendment
number
four.
The
second
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
tonight,
and
this
is
also
up
for
potential
action
tonight.
The
staff
report
lists
three
straw
polls.
The
council
took
last
time
as
well
as
several
questions
from
the
briefing
staff
is
returning
specifically
for
two
items.
G
The
first
is
e-19
the
downtown
ambassador
expansion
and
the
council
had
asked
several
questions.
The
updates
staff
received
are:
does
the
ambassador
program
schedule
overlap
with
the
bike
squad,
the
police
bike
squad?
The
answer
is
yes,
they
frequently
work
together,
but
we
weren't
able
to
get
clarity
on
the
degree
how
much
they
overlap.
G
G
We
didn't
get
specific
metrics
about
the
pilot
area
on
north
temple,
so
if
the
council
was
interested
in
additional
metrics,
if
the
council
wanted
to
see
if
there
was
any
effect
on
crime
reports,
for
example
or
other
items
of
the
council
interest,
that
would
be
a
time
to
ask
if
that's
something
that
could
be
done.
G
We
also
asked
about
the
rio
grande
expansion.
If
the
council
remembers,
the
current
service
area
was
compared
to
a
proposed
expansion
to
the
rio
grande
neighborhood
and
an
expansion
onto
north
temple
bobby.
Could
you
put
up
the
map
from
the
downtown
alliance's
memo
showing
those
three
areas?
I
think
it's
helpful
to
remind
the
council.
What
areas
are
being
talked.
G
G
So
here
you
can
see
the
current
coverage
area
and
the
two
proposed
expansions
and
the
expansion
for
rio
grande
is
contemplated
as
being
ongoing.
While
the
north
temple
expansion
is
proposed
to
be
a
six-month
pilot,
so
it
would
need
to
be
revisited
and
there
wouldn't
be
funding
to
continue
the
expansion
into
fiscal
year
22.
Unless
new
funding
is
identified
in
the
next
annual
budget.
G
G
G
G
B
K
B
Yeah,
so
in
our
in
the
table
on
the
screen
right
now,
there's
different
scenarios
for
how
many
investors
to
put
in
the
rio
grande
and
the
cost
associated
with
that.
I
think
the
administration
proposals
for
six,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
there's
option
for
five
or
four
here
with
obviously
less
coverage
less
expensive.
But
can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
why
six
was
the
proposal
for
the
administration.
K
I'd
be
happy
to,
I
think,
it's
easier
to
think
about
this
in
in
terms
of
safety.
Our
ambassadors
work
in
teams
of
two
and
what
we're
proposing
is
so
our
current
service
area
downtown.
We
have
three
ambassadors
that
work
in
the
morning
in
the
winter,
from
7
a.m,
to
7
p.m.
In
the
summer
that
coverage
is
extended
to
11
p.m,
and
so
we
would
be
providing
the
same
hours
of
coverage
into
that
area.
It's
further
away
from
our
city
center.
K
K
Yes,
it
equates
to
a
team
of
two
in
the
in
the
morning
a
team
of
two
in
the
in
the
afternoon
and
evening,
and
then
one
that
sort
of
floater
or
supervisor
that
deals
with
merchant
calls
works
closer
with
our
other
team
to
ensure
that
our
the
issues
that
we're
required
to
respond
to
are
being
handled,
and
then
they
can
dispatch
our
teams.
Accordingly.
B
K
Well,
we
need
one
for
each
shift,
so
it's
three
people
total
morning
and
three
people
total
in
the
afternoon
and
evening.
Okay,
if
we
were
to
reduce
the
number
of
bass
ambassadors,
it
would
put
more
pressure
on
the
one
supervisor
that
we
have
in
the
center
city,
both
in
the
morning
and
in
the
evening.
So
because
we're
you
know
this
is
a
new
program.
It's
a
new
expansion
area.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
provided
information
on
the
most
optimal
level
of
service.
B
Let's
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
since
you're
already
on
the
spot,
if
they
drop
to
five
would
essentially
mean
not
a
supervisor
on
one
of
those
shifts
or
sort
of
a
hybrid
model.
K
H
Romano
thanks,
I
had
two.
I
had
two
questions
ben
when
you
were
explaining
why
the
reduction
to
five
or
four
was
a
possibility
in
rio
grande,
but
not
on
north
temple.
I
didn't
100
follow
that.
So
that's
my
first
question
and
the
second
one
is:
all
of
these
service
areas
are
contiguous,
so
is
it?
G
Two
questions:
it
certainly
does
you're
correct.
The
three
areas
are
contiguous.
The
rio
grande
area
is
about
a
20
25
expansion
of
the
current
coverage
area
in
total
air
total
acreage,
not
just
number
of
blocks.
G
H
So
I
guess
the
follow-up
question
would
be
if
we
chose
to
fund
it
at
the
level
that
the
administration
had
requested,
which
is,
I
think,
12
new
ambassadors
total,
and
that
resulted
in
some
sort
of
uneven
coverage
or
higher
level
of
service
to
certain
areas.
But
we
found
out
that
there
was
actually
more
need
in
the
central
city.
H
K
Downtown
councilmember
mano
that
is
and
ben
yes,
that
is
correct.
The
north
temple
area
is
outside
of
the
downtown
boundary,
so
it
is
it's
or
its
own
program
and
because
it's
a
pilot,
we're
really
interested
in
understanding
the
metrics
of
how
this
is
working
over
the
course
of
a
shorter
amount
of
time
for
the
area
in
rio,
grande
and
center
city
or
the
downtown
district.
Those
are
all
part
of
the
same
district.
K
It's
just
an
expansion
of
area,
so
we
can
move
ambassadors
back
and
forth
and
most
likely
from
a
logistical
standpoint.
That's
what
will
happen.
They
will
work
in
teams.
They
will
handle
issues
that
come
up
and
if
our
we,
we
have
issues
that
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
in
certain
hot
spots
of
the
within
those
areas.
Then
we
would
deploy
our
services
and
resources
to
those
areas.
H
G
K
I
can
answer
that
one
as
well
week
our
current
areas,
our
current
hours
of
operation,
are
monday
through
saturday
and
for
the
north
temple
pilot
project.
I
think
when
we
first
initially
proposed
the
hours
of
monday.
Through
friday,
we
were
thinking
about
it.
Logistically,
okay,
it
might
be
easier
to
deploy
more
resources
in
that
shorter
amount
of
time,
but
to
answer
the
question
the
hours
can
be
dictated
by
the
budget
and
how
many
man
hours
we're
paying
for
from
our
service
provider.
K
So
if
the
needs
are
on
the
weekends
and
the
needs
are
greater,
we
can
move
ambassador
coverage
to
the
weekends
or
we
can
make
we
can
ensure,
since
it's
the
same
amount
of
ambassadors
being
funded,
we
could
have
the
hours
coincide
with
the
hours
of
the
other
two
districts,
so
that
is
flexible.
I
think,
is
a
better
way
to
answer
that.
B
I
think
this
went
back
to
the
or
one
of
the
previous
questions
from
the
council
to
the
administration,
about
the
coordination,
a
north
temple
between
the
ambassadors
and
the
bicycle
squad,
because
most
of
these
most
of
the
police
attention
to
north
temple
happens
wednesday
through
sunday,
4
p.m.
On
that's
the
bicycle
squad
shift,
but
there's
really
nothing
happening
before
then
or
on
saturday's,
particularly
hard.
So
I
would
endorse
the
current
proposal,
but
perhaps
look
at
the
ability
to
tweak
it
based
on
working
with
pd
and
the
other
resources
to
make
sure
we're
not
all
there.
B
That's
the
exact
same
time,
necessarily
all
the
time,
probably
overlapping.
That's
fine,
but
I
know
the
hot.
The
difficult
times
really
are
saturdays
and
sometimes
before
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
So
I'll
just
endorse
this
proposal,
but
have
that
flexibility
and
have
them
react
to
the
needs
of
that.
E
G
We
also
asked
what
what
restrooms
are
publicly
available
around
the
city
and
public
services
responded.
There
are
27
portable
restrooms,
as
well
as
some
vault
restrooms
that
are
open
in
city
parks
and
natural
lands
and
they're
open
throughout
the
winter.
G
J
My
understanding
whoa,
my
computer,
is
like
making
me
go
double
visioned
right
now.
My
understanding
is
that
the
760
thousand
dollars
that's
proposed
here
would
would
be
for
more
restrooms
garbage
pickup
bio
waste
has
a
clean
up
and
that's
about.
J
Is
that
about
it
or
was
there
something
else?
I
know
we
got
an
email
or
text
about
this
earlier.
Maybe
the
mayor
or
somebody
can
speak
to
what
that
760
000
is
going
for
more
specifically
than
what
we
have
in
the
proposal.
If
we.
F
Chair
gordon,
this
is
lonnie.
What
council
member
fowler
has
outlined
is
what
is
included
under
the
advantage
services
existing
contract
so
including
portable
restroom
attendance
and
for
bio
waste,
cleanup
trash
cleanup
and
for
some
power
washing
in
some
of
the
areas.
So
it's
really
an
extension
of
the
existing
work
that
they
do
for
the
city
into
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year.
J
I
I
feel,
like
the
the
name
we've
given,
it
has
led
to
some
perhaps
miscommunication,
on
what
services
we're
actually
providing
with
that
760
000,
as
we
heard
from
community
members
last
week
two
weeks
ago,
whenever
our
last
commit
our
council
meeting,
was
that
that
this
would
be
going
to
what
has
kind
of
been
viewed
as
or
perceived
as
cleaning
out
camps
completely,
and
that's
not,
I
think,
that's
an
inaccurate,
maybe
name
for
what
we're
actually
trying
to
provide
with
this.
J
This
allotted
amount
of
money
it
does
anyone
else
feel
that
same
way,
that
I
felt
that
that
it
seems
like
this
kind
of
got
misconstrued
as
to
what
services
we're
trying
to
provide
with
this
money,
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
it
may
seem.
It
may
seem
silly
in
some
ways,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
a
better
name
or
way
to
describe
this,
so
that
the
public
understands
what
we're
trying
to
provide
with
this
allotted
amount.
D
Thanks
and
council
member
fowler,
I
think
that's
right,
and
I
think
it
was
partly
probably
my
error
on
the
budget.
Amendment
of
myths
titling
the
the
program
and
it
should
have
just.
We
should
have
just
referred
back
to
the
enhanced
neighborhood
cleaning,
which
is
really
sort
of
the
phase.
One
community
commitment
program
program
on
you
know
how
to
get
increased
cleaning
to
into
neighborhoods,
where
not
where
people
are
literally
camping
at
the
moment,
but
helping
businesses
and
residents
clean
around
you
know
their
areas
and
on
public
and
private
property.
D
J
No,
I
I
appreciate
you
the
administration
getting
back.
I
know
we
asked
kind
of
asked
this
question
at
the
last
meeting,
so
I
appreciate
getting
back
because
it
it
also
helps
me
clarify
what
we
were.
This
was
going
for
because
I'll
be
honest
it
when
I
first
looked
at
it.
I
thought
I
don't
know
if
I
think
760
000
needs
to
go
to
this,
but
when
we're
talking
about
actually
providing
services,
including
bathroom
attendees,
and
making
sure
that
porta-potties
are
accessible
to
to
people
throughout
the
winter
that
change
it.
J
That
certainly
changes
my
attitude
about
it,
because
I
believe
that
those
services
are
necessary
for
all
of
our
community
members,
including
and
especially
those
experiencing
homelessness.
And
so
I
appreciate
the
update
and
think
that
when,
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
maybe
update
a
little
bit
in
the
budget
amendment
or
or
through,
however,
we
can
kind
of
do
that
so
that
we
get
the
accurate
information
out
to
the
community.
That'd
be
helpful.
D
Thanks
yeah
and
you'll,
remember
too
that
we,
we
essentially
asked
you
if
we
could
exhaust
hands
budget
the
first
time
around,
to
make
this
program
work,
and
I
think
it
has
been
successful
and
needed
and
we'd
like
to
keep
doing
it
and
keep
hand
keep
handworking
for
the
rest
of
the
year
too.
D
So,
thanks
for
your
understanding
and
support
on
that,
we
did
also
send
thanks
to
mary
beth,
an
additional
breakdown
of
expenses
under
that
item,
and
so
hopefully,
council
staff
received
that
I
probably
was
a
little
bit
late
for
you
to
be
able
to
review
with
your
packets.
But
I
hope
that
helps.
J
That,
or
maybe
rachel
you
said
it
neighborhood.
What
is
it
the
neighborhood.
J
So
then,
maybe
we
can
work,
maybe
with
the
administration
and
lonnie
to
come
up
with
like
what.
That
name
is
so
that
we
are
consistent
as
well
with
what
we
did
before
and
that
this
is
simply
just
adding
on
to
that
program.
That
we
know
is
working
and
we
want
to
continue
and
and
put
that
in
the
motion
sheet.
Perhaps.
G
E
You,
okay,
any
of
it
all
right!
Thank
you!
Thanks
ben
thanks,
mary
beth
and
and
lonnie
and
blake,
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
being
here.
E
G
G
G
G
G
Item
a1
is
a
request
for
forty
four
thousand
dollars
for
the
animal
services
contract
with
the
county.
When
this
was
under
negotiation,
the
council
was
deliberating
the
fiscal
year
21
annual
budget.
It
was
hoped
that
the
cost
would
stay
flat,
but
it
increased
forty
four
thousand
dollars
partially
to
cover
raccoon
abatement.
G
A2
is
a
request
for
55
000
from
the
refuse
fund
sustainability
oversees
that
to
purchase
a
pickup
truck.
There
was
a
10
year
old,
pickup
truck
that
had
major
engine
issues
and
the
fleet
division
determined.
It
made
more
financial
sense
to
just
buy
a
new
truck
instead
of
replace
the
engine
or
try
to
fix
the
engine.
G
B
The
briefing
piece
this
is
probably
a
married
bath
or
mayor
question
primarily
with
this
budget
amendment
ben
you
said:
we'd
be
down
to
11.7
percent
of
front
balance.
G
H
B
I'm
just
sort
of
projecting
forward
that
I'm
fine
using
fund
balance
to
help
us
through
this
time,
because
that's
why
we
have
it
in
my
personal
opinion.
B
But
are
we
projecting
that
three
million
sort
of
to
be
used
in
the
next
fiscal
year
through
july
june,
or
are
we
thinking
to
hold
some
of
that
for
the
next
year
as
well
any
sense
of
that
mayor?
This
is
all
projection
by
the
way
and
made
up,
but.
B
Yeah,
let's
try
to
get
a
sense
of
what
our
sort
of
in
the
thought
process
going
forward.
Is
there
a
goal
or
any
idea
in
your
head
about
how
much
fund
balance
you
would
like
to
see
moving
into
the
next
fiscal
year,
I'm
assuming
tax
revenues
are
still
down
and
other
issues.
C
You
know
that
when
I
was
a
council
member,
I
I
liked
working
with
you
to
try
to
get
our
fund
balance
well
up
above
11
and
I'd
be
most
comfortable
if
we
stayed
above
11
percent,
but
we,
I
think,
as
we've
been
navigating
this
economic
territory
through
the
pandemic,
we've
been
incredibly
fortunate
compared
to
other
cities
around
the
state.
C
So
I
I
don't.
I
don't
feel
that,
where
we've
gone
to
and
what
we're
proposing
to
you
is
much
out
of
my
comfort
zone,
given
the
circumstances
that
we
find
ourselves
in,
but
I
think
mary
beth's
projections
are
still
very
good
for
us
mary
beth.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add.
F
F
F
F
So
I
think
we're
fortunate
for
that,
because
and
for
you,
council
member
johnston
in
keeping
our
fund
balance
to
a
significant
level
in
order
for
us
to
have
that
funding.
For
these
times.
B
I
know
this
is
non-binding
mayor
and
I
won't
hold
anybody
to
it.
I
think,
for
the
in
my
mind,
now
in
the
council
mind
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
B
Is
there
a
target
to
try
and
maintain
for
the
rest
of
his
fiscal
year
and
11
seems
as
good
as
everything
up
as
maybe
a
target
for
us
and
just
thinking
through
our
budget
for
the
next
six
months
or
seven
months
and,
like
I
said,
it's
non-binding,
I
think
as
stuff
comes
up,
we're
gonna
have
to
make
some
decisions
and,
in
my
view
there
are
times
we
need
to
use
this
fund
balance.
B
C
Councilmember,
I
you
know,
I
think
this
is
what
fund
balance
is
for
it's
for
times
like
this,
when,
when
what
we've
had
planned,
isn't
coming
through
and
we've
built
up,
and
we
did
build
up
with
the
budget
that
you
approved
in
in
june,
the
ability
for
the
city
to
maintain
our
all
of
our
employees,
meaning
we
didn't
have
to
do
any
furloughs
and
all
of
our
city
services
and
that's
what
a
fund
balance
is
there
for
it's
for
this
flexibility
that
it's
necessary
during
these
kind
of
time.
C
So
I
am
not
in
a
my.
C
My
focus
right
now
is
maintaining
the
wellness
of
our
corporation
and
as
we
go
through
this
unpredictable
storm
that
we're
in-
and
I
know
that-
and
I
hope
you
know
that
I
am-
I
have
been
historically
and
I'm
still
very
committed
to
us
having
a
strong
fund
balance,
but
this
is
what
fund
balances
are
for,
and
I'm
gonna
keep
relying
on
the
advice
of
mary
beth
and
her
team
when
we,
if
we
get
toward
a
point
in
the
future
where
we
are
going
too
deep
into
that
fund
balance.
B
So
I
I
I
understand
mayor
and
I
know
my
first
two
years
in
the
council,
we
always
flirted
somewhere
between
10
and
11
in
two
years.
I
know
we've
changed
that
perspective.
For
the
reason
we
said,
I
think
I'm
I'm.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
the
headspace
of
we
may
need
some
going
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
so
ensuring
that
we
are
careful
in
the
next
six
months,
particularly
as
we
watch
the
revenues
and
things.
So
that's
all.
G
E
Okay,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
the
straw
poll?
Okay
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
thoughts.
I
have
a
thumbs
up
from
councilmember
dugan
mono,
rogers,
johnston,
fowler
and
myself.
That's
unanimous
support
with
one
absent
council
member
paula,
moros.
G
G
G
The
city
sustainability
has
35
of
these
vehicles,
which
does
include
a
couple
redundancies
in
case.
One
of
them
breaks
down.
It
won't
result
in
a
service
level
decrease.
So
this
would
be
seven
new
hackers
paid
for
by
the
refuse
fund
over
a
four-year
financing
term,
and
it's
a
straw
poll,
that's
requested
by
the
administration.
G
B
Poll,
mr
chair,
yes,
the
council
supports
a3
the
purchase
of
seven
certified
natural
gas,
refuse.
E
Packages
understand
this
trouble:
okay,
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
support,
and
I
have
support
from
councillor
johnston,
dugan
mono,
rogers,
fowler
and
myself
with
so
it's
unanimous
sport
with
one
absence:
councilmember
baltimorels.
G
G
It
includes
a
hundred
and
fifty
six
thousand
dollars
of
overtime,
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
to
backfill
patrol
to
maintain
minimum
staffing
in
the
patrol
94
000
for
miscellaneous
expenses,
and
this
is
things
like
traffic
equipment,
vehicle,
rentals
and
training
of
officers
before
the
operation
started,
and
there
is
a
small
reimbursement
from
the
university
of
utah.
That's
anticipated
about
nineteen
thousand
dollars.
G
I
do
not
know,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
ready
answer.
I
see
mary
beth
shaking
her
head.
No,
I
will
ask
and
come
back.
B
I
mean
look,
it's
it's
money
we
gotta
spend
because
it's
already
happened.
I
hate
the
event,
but
this
is
frustrating
to
have
an
event
that
we
don't
solicit
as
a
city
and
yet
we're
on
the
what
to
pay
the
bills
for
essentially
so
I'm
frustrated
about.
G
It
a5
this
is
a
request
for
7.1
million
dollars
from
hud.
In
cares,
act
grants
this
is
one-time
money.
You
may
remember
this
from
briefings.
Last
month,
on
october
13th,
the
council
had
a
briefing
about
amending
the
2020-2024
consolidated
plan
which
lays
out
the
objectives
and
uses
of
these
grant
funds
from
hud.
G
G
This
request
is
also
asking
the
council
to
approve
the
administrative
portion
of
the
grants.
Hud
allows
cities
to
take
a
portion
of
the
grant
in
recognition
that
it
takes
staff,
time
and
expenses
to
administer
these
grant
programs.
The
amounts
that
are
allowed
are
twenty
percent
of
the
cdbg
award,
ten
percent
of
esg
and
six
percent
of
hopwa.
G
G
If
the
council
approves
the
administrative
portions
as
part
of
this
budget
amendment,
that
means
there's
less
flexibility
in
the
future.
If
the
council
wanted
to
award
less
to
the
city
for
administrative
costs
and
wanted
to
shift
some
of
those
dollars
to
a
community
application,
the
council
has
done
that
a
couple
times,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
that
would
be
a
change
in
your
flexibility
compared
to
the
typical
process.
G
There
was
an
update
after
we
published
the
staff
report
that
the
administration
is
also
recommending
three
new
ftes
that
would
be
funded
with
this
grant.
We
haven't
received
a
new
transmittal
detailing
that,
so
I
would
let
the
administration
speak
to
it
today,
unless
they
would
prefer
to
address
it
at
a
follow-up
briefing.
J
Mr
chair,
can
I
ask
a
question
before
blake
goes
because
he
may
be
able
to
answer
this
question
as
well.
Yes,
go
ahead
thanks,
I
mean
this
grant.
Is
a
one-time
grant
right?
So
would
we,
but
we
get
it
every
year,
it's
just
not
guaranteed
necessarily
right,
and
so
how
do
we
continue
funding
the
three
new
ftes?
Does
it
come
out
of
this
print
every
year
as
well?
Does
that
make
sense
what
I'm
asking
future
I'm
asking
future
funds
dean.
L
So
those
three
positions,
those
are
temporary
roles
and
I've
spoken
with
the
hand
team
and
we're
willing
to
have
those
be
temps
or
part-time
employees
in
terms
of
preventing
a
three-person
fte
count
that
might
we
might
be
tempted
to
come
back
and
try
to
extend
that
beyond
the
couple
years
of
the
program,
so
those
positions
will
be
funded
from
the
7.1
million
and
they
will
be
temporary
only
for
the
life
of
this
one
time
cares:
hud
cv
dollars.
F
Thank
you,
council
chair,
so
we
will
keep
these
positions
in
the
grant
fund.
So
once
the
grant
funding
has
been
expended
and
the
grant
has
expired,
then
that
funding
will
go
away.
These
these
temporary
or
fts
won't
sit
in
the
general
fund.
It'll
all
sit
in
the
grant
fund,
like
other
grant
funding
positions,
do
currently.
I
And
if
I
could
maybe
blake
could
also
address
the
two
ftes
that
would
be
funded
by
this
money.
You
were
saying
I
we
were
talking
earlier,
you
thought.
Maybe
there
was
general
fund
savings
or
something
that
would
cover
part
of
this.
L
So
another
thing
that
I'd
like
to
do
is:
I
guess
this
would
be
a
formal
request
to
have
those
two
requests
removed,
as
those
are
separate
to
mary
beth's
point
from
grant
specific
positions,
so
so
we'll
we'll
remove
those
if
that's
amenable
with
the
group,
so
that
when
we're
when
we're
able
to
fill
those
with
agency
savings
above
and
beyond
what
has
been
required
to
meet
our
requirements
through
this
year,
we
hope
to
fill
those
and
then
hope
to
hope
to
fill
the
vacancies
when
the
when
the
freeze
hopefully
ends.
L
I
And
maybe
what
we
could
do
if
the
council's
okay
is,
is
not
do
anything
specific
today,
but
just
circle
back
with
blake
and
the
mayor's
office
and
finance
to
be
sure
that
we're
not
missing
any
important
points,
because
this
is
all
we
don't
have
written
information
yet,
and
so
it
just
if
you
could
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
time
on
this
agenda
item.
We
could
work
together
to
see
what
we
can
confirm.
G
G
G
G
B
I'm
just
intrigued
by
the
timing.
Why.
B
H
Mr
chair,
I'm
happy
to
chime
in
and
get
the
best
answer
to
this,
but,
as
many
of
the
council
know,
we've
been
without
a
deputy
now
for
about
a
year
and
a
half,
and
obviously
our
operations
have
been
strained.
We
have
been
requesting
this
in
various
budget
openings
and
this
one
is
one
that
the
mayor's
office
has
supported.
H
B
H
In
terms
of
our
operations
within
the
pandemic
and
how
we're
responsive
to
the
community
a
lot
of
the
coordination
that
takes
place
in
terms
of
drafting
considerations
for
the
city,
I
mean
that's
one,
substantial
impact
as
we
try
and
respond
and
get
feedback
into
the
city
about
how
we
can
consider
everything
from
the
outdoor
dining
provisions
that
were
discussed
earlier
to
potentially
even
looking
ahead,
identify
resources
for
the
city
as
well
for
potential
grants.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
just
add
that
I
think
we
are
asking
as
council
member
johnston
points
out.
We're
asking
a
lot
from
all
of
our
departments,
and
economic
development
is
definitely
in
the
thick
of
it
and
has
been
with
the
the
principles
that
we've
tried
to
operate
on
throughout
the
covet
crisis,
which
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
towards
a
recovery-
that's
equitable
and
sustainable
for
our
local
businesses,
which
of
course
impacts
all
of
our
residents
and
our
ability
to
you
know,
weather
the
pandemic
and
hopefully
recover
quickly.
D
So
this
shortage
is
one
that
has
been.
You
know
important
for
us
to
to
try
to
to
try
to
fulfill
it's
it's.
A
economic
development,
as
you
all
know,
is
a
newer
department.
It's
a
smaller
department,
but
they
carry
a
pretty
big.
G
E
G
G
G
The
other
position
is
an
administrative
assistant,
and
that
would
be
seventy
one
thousand
dollars
for
the
remaining
seven
months
of
the
fiscal
year.
Some
council
members
expressed
interest
in
adding
a
position
to
the
city
recorder's
office
that
is
listed
as
well
in
the
staff
report.
It
would
be
an
assistant
city
recorder
and
the
cost
for
seven
months
is
58
000.
G
The
recorder's
office
is
handling
an
increased
workload
from
several
reasons,
some
of
which
are
changes
to
citywide
programs
like
grammar
and
contract
management,
as
well
as
the
creation
and
staff
support
for
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission,
and
this
is
an
item
that
a
straw
poll
is
requested,
is
requested
on.
I
Okay,
now
ben
I,
I
don't
know
that
they
need
a
straw
poll
on
the
whole
thing.
I
think
there
was
some
advertising
that
they
wanted
to
get
going
with
part
of
it.
I'm
not
sure
it
could
be
wrong
anyway,
on
the
city
recorder
piece
and
on
the
attorney
piece
for
the
council
added
items,
part
of
the
workload
increase,
a
significant
part
of
it
is
generated
by
the
city
council
office.
I
The
city
recorders
office
is
playing
a
major
role
in
the
the
webex
meetings
that
we
have
and
all
of
the
additional
transparency
that
we're
working
toward
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
so
they
actually
have
doubled
the
amount
of
staff
that
they
have
dedicated
to
the
city
council
meetings
and
then
they're
also.
I
I
think
I
think
that
at
this
point,
the
workload
for
the
police
equity
commission
is
significantly
more
than
the
workload
for
the
city
council.
So
without
additional
staffing,
they've
added
they've
doubled
their
work
in
terms
of
adding
a
new
body
that
has
more
work
than
the
council
and
we've
also
doubled
the
amount
of
time
we
need
from
them.
I
So
I
think
that
they're
in
a
bit
of
a
desperate
state
and
then
also
the
city
attorney's
office,
is
with
the
we
did
never
increase
their
staff
when
we
change
to
relying
on
them
for
all
of
the
council
ordinance
work,
so
they
have
been
absorbing
that
workload.
I
Our
requests
of
them,
of
course,
have
increased
based
on
the
the
needs
right
now
in
the
city
that
that's
a
little
bit
of
the
background.
G
E
Katie,
do
you
or
cindy
lou?
Do
you
have
anything
that
you
would
like
to
add.
M
I'd
just
like
to
start
by
thanking
both
the
council
and
the
mayor
for
your
support
of
both
of
our
offices,
and
you
know
we
are
internal
service
facing
and
are
here
to
serve
all
of
you
and
we.
We
really
appreciate
your
thoughtfulness
and
your
support
in
how
we
can
have
the
resources
to
provide
our
our
client
service
to
you
all
cindy
lou.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
but
just
wanted
to
to
express
our
gratitude.
K
N
N
J
I
would
enthusiastically
ask
for
a
straw
or
present
distraught.
E
E
Any
question
or
sorry
any
questions
about
the
straw
poll
all
right
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
support
and
council
member
fowler
is
in
favor
johnston,
dugan,
mono,
rogers
and
myself,
and
so
that's
unanimous
support
with
one
with
council
member
voldemort
absent.
G
E
G
G
E
Any
questions
I
have
a
question:
did
we
did
we
talk
about
the
the
hr
best
practice
numbers
when
we
made
the
decision
to
to
get
rid
of
the
deputy?
I
don't
remember.
G
We
did
not
that
information
was
not
available
at
the
time.
I
suspect
the
current
hr
director
may
have
some
insight.
N
I
appreciate
you,
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
a
chance
to
speak
to
it.
I
would
I
would
express
support,
or
I
would
express
my
appreciation
for
the
support
as
well.
As
many
of
you
may
know,
hr
needs
to
do
some
rebuilding
here
in
the
next
in
the
next
while
and
as
part
of
that,
we
need
to
address
our
staffing,
our
staffing
numbers.
N
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
need
those
positions
is
because,
as
you
all
know,
we
are
an
internal.
We
provide
internal
service
to
all
the
departments
as
well.
In
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
be,
we
have
to
be
staffed
at
appropriate
levels.
The
hr
the
hr
profession
actually
has
in
entities
up
here
that
that
kind
of
survey,
what
organizations
do
and
across
the
board,
in
a
lot
of
respects,
sector
and
public
sector,
aren't
all
that
much
different.
N
E
G
A16,
this
is
a
request
for
almost
21
000
to
provide
two
months
of
funding
for
a
contract
specialist
fte
in
the
finance
department.
This
position
is
being
held
vacant
under
the
six-month
hiring
freeze.
The
administration
is
requesting.
This
position
receive
the
funding
because
of
a
large
spike
in
the
number
of
contracts
that
finance
is
processing.
G
Over
the
last
five
years,
finance
typically
sees
about
45
47
contracts
in
the
first
three
months
of
the
year
and
they've
already
seen
over
83.
This
is
partially
related
to
the
multiple
emergencies
as
well
as
the
cares
act.
Money
having
that
money
is
great,
but
it
does
require
contracts
in
order
to
expend
it.
G
A17,
this
is
a
request
for
662
000
for
right-of-way
repairs
that
were
damaged
in
the
september,
8th
windstorm.
You
might
remember
in
budget
amendment
number
3,
the
council
approved
funding
for
debris
cleanup
as
well
as
stump
removal
that
did
not
provide
funding
for
concrete
that
was
damaged,
we're
talking,
sidewalks,
curb
and
gutter,
driveway
approaches
and
concrete
streets.
G
The
administration
is
currently
using
remaining
funding
from
cip.
Last
year
there
was
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
public,
right-of-way
proactive
repair
program
that
funding
is
running
out
and
that
program
received
no
new
funding
in
cip
this
year.
So
this
request
is
for
the
administration
to
continue
those
concrete
repairs.
H
G
G
G
G
The
building
maintenance
fund
has
already
been
depleted
for
this
fiscal
year,
which
is
why
the
request
is
to
use
fund
balance.
There
are
two
policy
questions.
If
the
council
would
like
to
ask
the
administration
if
results
are
available
from
public
engagement,
especially
with
west
side
neighborhoods
about
future
potential
uses
of
the
site,
and
if
the
council
would
like
to
ask
the
administration
how
city-owned
vacant
building
maintenance
will
be
funded
for
the
rest
of
this
fiscal
year,.
E
B
Mr
chair,
the
the
park
is
very
sad.
It's
a
very
good
question
for
us
right
now.
I
I
if
the
administration
has
information
on
the
outreach,
I
know
that
I've
seen
it
and
we
did
a
good
job
of
or
a
number
weeks
regarding,
whether
or
not
to
tear
it
down
in
the
current
condition.
L
Thank
you,
council
member
johnston.
Yes,
so
the
public
survey
has
closed
and
the
results
of
that
have
been
compiled
and
I
haven't
done
a
deep
dive
into
it,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
there
is
some
there's
overwhelming
support
for
dissembling
the
water
park
and
the
infrastructure
that's
there,
but
as
far
as
a
future
use
the
the
public
has
weighed
in
and
it's
it's
sort
of
split
on
on
a
couple
of
different
ideas.
L
There
was
some
support
for
keeping
or
rebuilding
a
water
park,
and
then
there's
also
you
know
about
the
same
amount
of
support
for
another
use.
I
know
that
our
parks
and
public
lands
department
is
planning
on
doing
a
visioning
exercise
in
the
near
future
to
be
able
to
contemplate
and
analyze
potential
future
uses.
L
No,
that
actually
has
already
occurred,
and
that
was
paid
for
as
well.
Okay,.
B
Yeah,
mr
chair,
the
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about.
Why
tear
it
down
versus
infrastructure
and
we
did
a
tour
out
there
a
few
weeks
ago,
mayor
someone
there.
It's
amazing
how
bad
it's
gotten,
even
in
two
years,
since
it
was
last
hope
it
was
bad
before,
but
really,
if
there's
anything
of
value
in
there,
they've
stripped
it
or
torn
apart.
B
G
There
are
three
more
items
mr
chair
item.
D3
is
the
second
issuance
of
the
voter
approved
streets
reconstruction
fund.
There
are
two
more
bond
issuances
that
are
planned
and
we
wanted
to
share
a
bit
of
good
news.
The
true
interest
cost
was
only
1.6
which
is
incredibly
low
and
saves
the
city
in
taxpayers,
money.
G
E
E
Okay,
any
questions
about
the
poll
all
right
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
support
all
right.
I
have
the
support
from
council
member
johnson
fowler
dugan
mono
rogers
and
myself.
That's
unanimous
with
councilmember
voldemort's,
absent.
G
The
last
item,
mr
chair,
is
d6.
This
is
an
item.
We
see
every
fall.
It
is
a
recapture
of
hud
grants
that
were
not
used
in
the
previous
year
and
it's
significantly
larger
this
year
than
the
last
five
years,
particularly
cdbg.
It's
1.2
million
dollars
that
funding
will
be
added
into
the
annual
ongoing
hud
grant
awards.
So
it
can
be
reused.
G
E
All
right
any
overall
questions:
council
members,
okay,
we
are
a
little
bit
late
for
our
break,
but
we
also
have.
We
only
have
two
items
after
the
break,
so
I'm
gonna
take
a
risk
and
still
say
that
we
get
the
20
minutes.
So
if
everybody
can
come
back
at
4
20,
then
we'll
see
everybody,
then
okay,
thank.
E
A
A
A
E
Agenda
item
number
seven
is
creating
an
appeal
hearing
officer
system
by
replacing
the
civil
service,
commission
and
employee
appeals
board
and
leading
us.
Through
this
discussion
we
have
ben
ludke
from
the
city
council
office,
katie
lewis,
the
city
attorney
and
dave
alexander,
the
director
of
hr.
G
G
G
There
is
a
second
body
called
the
employee
appeals
board
that
handles
disciplinary
appeals
for
all
other
city
departments.
There
are
two
ordinances
before
the
council.
The
first
ordinance
would
repeal
the
sections
of
city
code
that
authorized
the
civil
service
commission
and
the
employee
appeals
board.
These
two
bodies
would
be
replaced
with
an
appeals
hearing
officer
system.
G
G
Some
of
them
are
improving
the
city's
competitive
position
in
the
market
by
speeding
up
job
offers,
and
a
recent
example
is
the
social
worker
program,
which
has
had
some
struggles,
maintaining
and
reaching
full
staffing
in
part,
because
applicants
that
are
offered
jobs,
leave
and
take
positions
at
other
agencies
because
of
the
delay,
sometimes
weeks
long
delay
in
the
civil
service
commission
approving
those
new
hires.
So
this
will
help
with
maintaining
full
staffing
and
make
the
city
more
competitive
in
the
job
market.
G
Another
benefit
is
freeing
up
time
for
leadership
and
staff.
There
would
be
less
involvement
in
terms
of
hours
for
the
fire
chief,
the
police
chief
and
their
staffs,
to
attend
hearing
officer
proceedings
compared
to
the
civil
service
commission.
So
this
would
allow
leadership
in
those
two
departments
and
their
staff
to
work
on
other
city
priorities.
G
E
Okay,
oh
sorry,
councilman
rogers
go.
E
E
Main
question
was
in
regards
to
the
changes
that
are
coming
forth.
I
still
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
him.
D
Sure,
thank
you,
council,
chair
and
thanks
councilmember
rogers,
I'm
not
sure
of
the
timing
that
you're
referring
to
we
did.
We
did
where
we
were
able
to
transmit
them.
The
first
draft
of
proposed
ordinances
before
we
transmitted
officially
to
the
city
council
for
their
feedback,
and
then
we've
worked
with
them
mainly
deb
and
the
attorney's
office
have
worked
with
local
81
who's
been
most
interested
in
giving
feedback
over
the
past
week,
and
that
is
reflected
in
the
new
drafts
that
we
sent
over
to
council
today.
E
M
M
The
administration
believes,
can
be
served
in
a
more
modernized
and
efficient
and
in
in
line
with
professional
hr
standards
by
repealing
the
civil
service
and
eliminating
it
from
the
city
and
creating
an
appeal
hearing
officer
for
employee
appeals
both
for
civil
service
employees
and
for
other
merit
employees.
So
both
the
employee
appeals
board
and
the
civil
service
commission
appeal
process
will
be
combined
into
one
professional
hearing
officer
process.
There
will
be
between
four
and
six
professional
hearing
officers
who
are
legally
trained
and
have
employment
experience.
M
There
will
also
be
a
replacement
of
the
civil
service
commission's
other
role,
which
is
the
recruitment
and
promotion
role
they
deb
can
speak
in
more
detail
to
what
their
rules
and
requirements
do
right
now,
but
that
ordinance
will
again
expedite
and
modernize
the
recruitment
and
promotion
role
that
the
civil
service
commission
is
playing
now
for
those
civil
service
employees,
so
fire
and
police
department
employees.
That's
the
broad
description
and
deb,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in
for
with
more
details.
N
Thanks,
I'm
happy
to
do
so
as
as
katie
and
rachel
and
ben
and
his
excellent
summary
mentioned
the
recruitment,
the
benefits
of
their
recruitment
ordinances.
The
way
that
the
administration
is
proposing
them
is
that
it
would
allow
us
to
be
much
more
timely
and,
to
start
with
to
be
much
more
timely
and
responsive
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
offer
positions
to
individuals
in
fire
and
in
police.
So,
as
ben
mentioned
one
of
the
challenges
it
sounds
like
that,
we
have
had
as
a
city
is
being
responsive
and
hiring
our
social
worker
decisions.
N
What
what
would
happen
is
we
would
do
all
the
functionality
in
terms
of
going
ahead,
recruiting
that
what
the
csc
ordinance
requires
is
that
we
go
ahead
and
check
in
with
the
the
commissioners
about
making
any
offers
for
those
positions.
What
that
means
is
that
we
are
slowing
down
our
recruitment
process,
often
by
weeks
and
that's
critical.
That's
been
critical
and,
I
believe,
will
continue
to
be
critical
in
terms
of
us
our
ability
to
be
responsive
and
act
quickly
to
make
offers
to
qualified
candidates.
N
So
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
benefits
that
we
believe
we
will
see
from
changing
this.
The
another
one
would
be
our
ability
to
attract
diverse
candidates
into
leadership
roles
in
both
fire
and
pd,
and
I'm
happy
to
take
some
questions
about
what
that
would
look
like.
N
That
is
one
way.
I
believe
that
that
everyone
on
the
council
understands
that
one
way
to
change
culture
in
any
department
in
any
organization
is
to
change
its
the
makeup
of
its
leadership,
what
what
it
does
and
how
it
thinks
and
how
it
interacts,
and
we
believe
that
this
would
be
an
essential
element
for
changing
the
culture
in
in
these
departments.
N
E
All
right
any
questions.
J
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
talked
with
fire
union
representatives
when
we
first
heard
about
this
ordinance,
and
you
know
I
know
that
they
kind
of
were
taken
aback
and
and
like
hey.
Where
was
our
input,
and
then
I
had
a
meeting,
a
small
group
meeting
with
dan
and
darren
and
katie
and
rachel
and
deb
and
jonathan,
and
the
work
that
deb
and
and
jonathan
in
particular
no
offense,
katie
and
rachel.
But
I
think
you
would
agree
the
work
that
they've
done
in
communicating
at
least
within
anyone
is.
J
Is
I
can't
thank
them
enough,
because
I
think
that
the
union,
and
at
least
the
fire
union
and
again,
I
know
that
they've
reached
out
to
the
police
union,
but
the
fire
union
is
greatly
appreciative
of
having
their
input
heard
and
having
deb
and
jonathan
really
listen
and
take
into
account
what
their
input
was
and
implement
a
lot
of
their
input
into
the
changes.
J
The
newer
changes
in
the
ordinance
is
awesome
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
again:
I
I
thanked
them
profusely
in
our
small
group
meetings,
but
it's
more
fun
in
a
public
meeting
to
embarrass
you
and
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
did
in
working
with
the
union
and
continue
to
do
with
working
and
addressing
their
concerns,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
a
lot.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
and
I
know
that
it's
been
a
lot
of
recent
hard
work
and
late
nights.
I'm
sure,
but
thank
you
again.
M
M
So
I
want
to
be
sure
to
acknowledge
him
that
he's
not
here
today,
and
I
also
would
direct
you
to
the
the
most
recent
drafts
that
have
been
sent
to
you,
because
those
those
red
line
drafts
do,
we
believe,
reflect
the
discussions
with
local
81,
the
fire
union
and
address
the
concerns
as
we
heard
them,
and
so
we
are
hoping
that
to
to
your
point,
councilmember
fowler,
and
also
to
address
your
concern
council,
member
rogers,
that
it
is
a
conversation
and
and
bringing
those
parties
to
the
table
for
for
review
and
comment.
E
All
right:
well,
if
not,
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
unless
chief
lead,
you're
here
with
us.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add.
H
Thank
you,
council
chair.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
also
the
efforts
of
deb
alexander
johnson
pastors,
and
I
would
I
would
also
support
the
action
to
revise
the
current
civil
standards
when
it's
modeled.
I
think
it's
good
for
the
city.
I
think
it's
good
for
the
employees,
so
I
would
just
second
what
deb
alexander
said
about
what
is
in
it
for
the
city
and
and
katie
as
well.
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
H
I
just
find
the
the
current
system
very
cumbersome,
very
dated
and
somewhat
detached
from
what's
really
going
on
between
labor
and
administration
and
the
process
for
taking
care
of
these
things
from
recruitment
to
discipline
to
promotions
this
just
should
be
more
streamlined
could
be
quicker,
should
be
more
practical,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
it
thanks
council
for
considering
it.
J
E
Okay,
wow
well,
thank
you
katie
and
deb
and
chief
lead
and
rachel
for
this,
and
we
will
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
eight,
which
is
demolition
of
dangerous
or
boarded
buildings,
follow-up
briefing
and
taking
us
through.
This
is
nick
tarbet
council
policy,
analyst
orion,
goff,
building
official
blake
thomas
director
of
can.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
can
you
hear
me
yeah
the
everybody's
favorite
question
of
2020
right,
that's
right.
So
this
is
a
follow-up
briefing
to
go
over
responses
from
the
administration
to
the
questions
the
council
raised
during
the
september
15th
work
session
briefing
on
the
demolition
ordinance
later
tonight.
There
will
be
a
continued
public
hearing
and
the
council
has
the
option
to
adopt
the
ordinance
after
that,
if
you
are
ready
to
do
so,
the
questions
are
outlined
in
the
staff
report
and
we
could
go
through
them
one
by
one.
O
If
you
would
like
to
or
we
could
just
go
to
questions
if
anybody
wants
to
has
any
specific
questions
about
them.
I
will
note
that
one
of
the
major
issues
that
the
council
had
asked
about
were
the
fees
for
the
vacant
imported
buildings.
O
The
response
from
the
administration
is
that
right
now,
their
the
police
and
the
fire
fees
are
not
included
in
the
cost
analysis
for
these
fees.
So
staff
has
prepared
some
legislative
intents
that
the
council
may
consider
adopting
if
you
choose
to
want
to
adopt
the
ordinance
tonight.
That
would
allow
you
to
put
the
bulk
of
the
ordinance
into
play
now
and
then
we
can
follow
up
with
the
fee
schedule.
Changes
in
the
coming
months.
E
O
Okay,
so,
as
I
already
stated,
there's
questions
about
what
goes
into
the
fee
for
the
vacant
board
of
buildings,
whether
or
not
the
police
and
fire
services
are
included.
As
we
noted
they
are
not
so
we've
prepared
a
legislative
action
that
could
include
that
there
was
a
question
about
whether
or
not
a
disproportionate
fee
could
be
implemented
for
boarded
buildings
that
proceed,
that
are
a
persistent
nuisance.
O
Administration
says
that
we
currently
don't
have
that,
but
that
could
also
be
something
that
could
be
looked
into.
So
there
is
also
a
legislative
action
that
would
require
request
research
and
follow
up
on
that.
O
A
question
was
raised
about
whether
it
would
be
better
to
charge
the
fee
for
building
instead
of
per
lot.
The
administration
responded
that
the
attorney's
office
believes
it
would
be
difficult
to
accomplish,
as
the
parcel
is
the
legal
description
not
for
each
individual
building,
so
they're
recommending
that
you
stick
with
the
current
process.
O
O
Another
there
was
another
question
about
providing
some
basic
landscaping
requirements.
That
is
a
change
that
the
administration
is
recommending
on
lines
1523
through
1524
of
the
ordinance.
It
would
include
a
firm.
The
property
will
comply
with
the
landscaping
requirements
for
the
zoning
district
that
the
property
is
located
in,
as
required
under
provisions
of.
O
21A48
then
there
were
some
questions
about
whether
or
not
the
city
could
pay
for
the
demolition
of
derelict
homes
and
put
a
lien
on
the
property
and
then
have
that
paid.
Once
it's
sold,
the
administration
responded
that
the
city
uses
lanes
on
property
all
the
time
with
some
success.
O
The
downside
is
that
it
may
be
years
before
the
lien
comes
to
an
issue
for
the
owner
or
the
view
owner,
usually
when
it's
time
to
sell
or
refinance
it
there's
nothing
in
the
current
ordinance
or
the
proposed
ordinance
that
keeps
the
city
from
taking
that
action.
However,
we
there's
certainly
no
budget
to
pay
for
contractors
and
it's
not
clear
that
there's
the
political
will
for
the
city
to
go
into
private
property.
O
As
such,
it's
an
invasive
action.
One
related
question
to
that.
With
the
legislative
intents,
there
was
another
another
during
another
discussion.
Some
council
members
raised
the
possibility
of
the
city
purchasing
these
boarded
and
vacant
buildings
to
for
rehab
and
then
to
put
them
into
the
affordable
housing
stock.
That
could
be
something
like
through
the
put
them
into
the
city's
community
land
trust.
O
O
And
I
believe
that's
it
for
what
what
we
were
going
on
follow
up
here.
Any
other
questions
on
that.
E
H
Thanks,
I'm
trying
to
think
through
the
two
legislative
actions
legislative
intents
that
are
listed
on
the
motion
sheet,
the
one
for
the
aborted
building,
these
being
increased
for
police
and
fire
response,
and
the
one
for
them
disproportionate,
that's
sort
of!
Is
that
a
both
and
or
an
either
or
scenario,
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
like
there's
only
a
certain
amount.
We
have
to
justify
everything
every
fee
that
we
pay
that
we
charge.
H
O
Yeah
that
so
the
I
think
you're
correct,
the
first
that
it's
it's
we
can
do
both
the
first
one
is
to
right
now.
Police
and
fire
services
are
not
included
in
the
fee,
so
the
administration
would
do
that
analysis.
Do
that
cost
justification
so
that
they
would
be
included
that
would
theoretically
increase
that
fee.
Potentially,
then,
this
disproportionate,
a
second
type
of
study
that
would
be
able
to
say
for
the
properties
that
are
a
consistent
nuisance.
O
I
O
I
It's
cindy,
I
I'm
not
sure
finance
or
the
city
attorney's
office
would
help
have
to
help
us
with
that
disproportionate
fee.
It
it
seems
like
it
should
be
as
you
described,
but
it
might
be
on
a
whole
class
of
of
a
a
whole
category
of
boarded
buildings,
or
something
like
that.
So
that's
probably
something
if,
if
there
isn't
anyone
on
the
call
that
can
answer
it
today,
we
can
get
back
on
that,
but
it,
but
it's
investigating
both
of
them
is
what
what
staff's
suggesting.
E
Absolutely
any
other
questions
or
statements
councilmember,
johnson,
okay,
I
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
move
forward
with
this
tonight
because
there
are
a
lot
of
residents
who
contacted
us
really
urging
and
encouraging
us
to
move
forward.
So
if
I'm
not
going
to
ask
for
a
straw
poll,
but
if
anybody
has
any
concern
about
moving
forward
tonight,
if
you
want
to,
is
there
any
questions?
We
can
answer
to
assuage
that
concern.
E
Okay,
I
don't
see
oh
good
thanks
john
thanks,
andrew
okay,
great
that
council
members
concludes
our
work
session
agenda
for
today.
So
unless
oh
no,
it
doesn't.
I'm
sorry.
We've
got
reports
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
I
don't
have
any
reports
andrew
cindy,
gus
jensen.
Do
you
have
a
report.
I
Oh
heck
I'll,
just
email
it
out
to
you,
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
put
into
your
newsletters.
If
it's
okay
with
you
and
it
might
be
the
commission,
let's
see.
I
Oh,
I
know:
okay,
sorry,
it's
the
all
the
boards
and
commissions
that
this
administration
has
been
really
good
about,
doing
outreach
to
all
the
communities
about
the
boards
and
commissions,
all
the
various
opportunities
that
the
city
has,
and
so
they
they've
done
a
lot
of
that
and
you
have
the
opportunity
to
if
you'd
like,
to
help
share
that
information
on
a
district-by-district
basis.
Like
a
list
of
these
are
the
board
boards
that
have
openings
in
our
district
type
of
thing.
I
So
we'll
work
with
you
guys,
individually
on
whether
you're
interested
in
sending
that
out,
but
also
now,
is
a
really
good
time.
If
you
do
happen
to
have
people
that
you
know
of
in
your
communities
that
are
interested
or
might
be
interested
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
provide
their
name
to
staff
and
we
can
coordinate
with
the
mayor's
office
to
get
information
out
to
them.
And
that's
it
all
right.
F
F
I
I
The
there
are
several
issues
that
are
coming
that
have
been
coming
to
the
council
that
are
either
private
petitions
or
initiatives
of
the
administration
or
follow-ups
on
previous
council
requests
and
they
all
tied
to
housing
and
the
makeup
of
our
city's
neighborhoods
and
that
type
of
thing.
So,
since
there
are
several
there's,
I
think
at
least
six
items
that
could
have
a
significant
impact.
I
The
council
has
been
moving
those
forward
individually
on
their
own
tracks,
but
now,
on
december,
1st
is,
is
going
to
try
to
bring
those
together
in
in
a
more
comprehensive
policy
conversation
about
how
they
would
all
work
together
and
what
the
lay
of
the
land
would
be
in
our
neighborhoods,
based
on
all
of
those
various
ordinances
that
are
are
on
their
way
through
the
process.
So
we're
hopeful
that
that
will
be
a
good
conversation.
I
It
will
also
be
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
do
it
a
bit
of
a
halfway
checkpoint
on
the
the
master
plan
that
the
city
has
for
housing,
which
is
grow
salt
lake,
I
believe,
and
then
I
think,
there's
also
a
report
from
the
housing
authority,
their
annual
update
to
the
city.
I
So
the
december
first
meeting
will
have
some
substantial
housing
conversation.
That's
it.
H
Thank
you
on
that
december
first
conversation
I,
it
sounds
like
it's
specific
to
housing
and
I
wasn't
sure
if,
like,
for
instance,
the
discussion
we've
been
having
about
gateway
mixed
use
or
foreign-based
urban
neighborhood,
three
or
the
downtown
heights
study
is
relevant
to
that.
H
I
Yeah
there
was
at
least
one
in
there
that
I
don't
think
we
have
included,
but
we
certainly
can
include
it
and
then
there's
it
ties
to
housing,
but
like
the
parking
ordinance
and
things
like
that,
we're
not
including
the
demolition
ordinance,
because
that
was
on
a
faster
track,
but
the
other
items
are
all
at
least
part
way
through
the
council
process.
I
E
E
Now
I
think
we
have
reached
the
end
of
our
work
session
agenda,
and
so
we
will
be
or
we'll
reconvene
for
our
formal
meeting
at
seven
o'clock
and
see
everybody.
Then
thank.