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B
D
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K
In
the
months
before
the
united
states
entered
world
war
ii,
salt
lake
city
leaders
were
grappling
with
the
black
poll
of
smoke
hanging
over
the
city
that
we
refer
to
today.
As
the
inversion
in
march
of
1941
city
leaders
and
city
smoke,
abatement
engineer,
william,
f
butler,
set
out
to
create
a
set
of
ordinances
that
would
clear
the
air
as
part
of
their
comprehensive
plan.
The
city's
smoke
control
division
was
born.
The
division
headed
by
city,
engineer
butler,
was
tasked
with
enforcing
new
smokeless
fuel
standards
and
ensuring
heating
equipment.
K
Furnaces
and
boilers
were
optimized
to
be
as
efficient
and
smokeless
as
possible.
They
also
outlawed
the
burning
of
leaves
and
trash
in
the
city.
The
railroad
industry
was
seen
as
the
leading
cause
of
the
smoke
and
they
were
given
just
six
months
to
comply
with
the
new
rules.
The
denver
and
rio
grande
railroad
alone
spent
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
comply
using
new
technology
to
improve
cold
starts
of
trains
and
reduce
their
pollution
output
considerably.
K
Over
the
course
of
the
next
few
years,
much
progress
was
made
by
the
city
to
work
with
industry
to
reduce
burning
help
residents,
convert
their
winter
heating
to
natural
gas
and
reduce
pollution
from
city
vehicles.
Even
the
city
and
county
buildings
boiler
underwent
a
renovation
to
bring
it
up
to
the
new
standards.
The
smoke
control
division
did
its
best
to
help
with
the
inversion
problem
until
1944,
when
its
name
was
changed
to
the
power
and
heating
division.
K
Since
so
much
of
their
work
was
dedicated
to
helping
residents
and
industry
eliminate
burning
in
their
methods
of
heating
by
1949
city
engineers
estimated
that
they
had
reduced
the
layer
of
smoke
over
salt
lake
city
by
80
percent,
but
with
the
ushering
in
of
a
new
commuter
age,
automobiles
and
new
industries
undid
much
of
the
work
the
city
did
under
the
smoke
control
division,
making.
Today's
efforts
to
clear
the
air,
all
the
more
important.
G
B
G
H
K
In
the
1870s
commercial
street,
which
we
know
of
today
as
regent
street,
was
the
heart
of
salt
lake
city's
red
light
district.
It
flourished
in
that
location
for
more
than
30
years,
despite
frequent
raids
by
the
police.
It
was
in
the
early
1900s
that
salt
lake
city
mayor
john
bransford
proposed
to
the
city
council
that
they
create
a
formal
registration
for
the
women
who
worked
there,
charge
them
fines
of
ten
dollars
a
month
each
and
that
they
build
a
dedicated
building
for
the
red
light
district
in
a
different
part
of
town.
K
The
city
council
agreed
and
they
went
to
work
constructing
what
they
called
the
stockade
and
retained
the
services
of
dora
topham,
who
went
by
the
name
of
madame
bell,
london
to
oversee
operations
on
december
18
1908
and
at
a
great
expense
to
city
taxpayers.
Construction
of
the
stockade
was
completed
on
block
64
between
1st
and
2nd
south
and
5th,
and
6th
west
women
operating
on
commercial
street
were
forced
to
ply
their
trade
at
the
new
location
immediately
or
face
arrest
and
fines.
K
The
red
light
district
operated
on
the
west
side
at
that
location
until
1911
when
madame
london
quit
after
a
run-in
with
the
law,
the
red
lights
went
out
and
the
building
was
soon
torn
down.
Women
operating
from
the
stockades
soon
returned
back
to
commercial
street
and
business
resumed
normally
much
to
the
dismay
of
city
officials.
P
Q
Like
a
pro
by
not
parking
at
red
bagged
meters,
if
you
are
looking
for
a
parking
spot
and
come
across
a
red
bagged,
meter
do
not
park
here.
An
organization,
business
or
special
event
has
reserved
this
meter
with
a
parking
meter
permit
to
ensure
the
space
remains
unused
parking
meter
permits
are
issued
by
the
city's.
Q
Q
K
In
the
early
1960s,
william
shatner
was
a
young
stage
actor
hoping
to
make
his
big
break
into
television.
He'd
done
many
live
stage,
shows
for
the
medium
and
had
found
iconic
guest
parts
on
anthology
shows
like
alfred
hitchcock
presents
in
the
twilight
zone,
though
he
hadn't
yet
found
his
breakthrough
role
in
1964.
He
finally
booked
a
pilot
that
he
thought
was
going
to
be
the
one
alexander,
the
great
I
did
not
cross
the
sea
to
conquer.
K
It
shot
for
six
months,
all
over
the
state
of
utah
bringing
in
actors
like
william
shatner,
john
cassavetes,
joseph
cotton
and
adam
west.
Unfortunately,
alexander
the
great
did
not
turn
out,
like
the
producers
had
hoped
and
was
shelved.
Shatner
went
on
to
record
other
pilots,
but
took
a
job
in
salt
lake
city.
Opening
a
play
by
norman
corwin
called
the
hyphen
it
premiered
at
the
pioneer
theater
on
the
university
of
utah
campus
on
march
24th
1966
and
played
through
april
2nd.
K
K
P
Again,
welcome
everyone
to
our
hybrid
meeting.
We
are
in
person,
as
you
can
see,
and
also
streaming
online
and
people
can
participate
online
as
well.
We
are
following
the
mask
mandate
and
would
ask
that
if
anybody
shows
up,
we
don't
have
public
comment
during
our
work
session,
but
if
people
do
show
up
in
person
during
the
formal
session
for
public
comment
that
you
abide
by
our
mask
rule,
if
you
don't
want
to,
then
we'd
ask
you
to
leave
and
you
can
certainly
watch
online
and
in
other
areas.
P
So
just
as
a
reminder
there,
I
it
really
is
so
exciting
to
be
in
person
and,
let's
see.
P
I
do
want
to
say
that
nope
went
through
that
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
my
script.
We
went
through
the
mask
mandate.
There's
no
public
comment
during
work
session.
You
can
join
us
for
feedback
is
always
welcome.
P
Let's
see
we
are
on
to
our
first
item,
which
is
updates
from
the
administration
yeah,
please,
because
that's
where
the
microphone
is.
We
have
madame
mayer
here
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
her.
P
I
Me:
okay,
thanks
for
bringing
up
the
update
there,
I'll
walk
you
through
it,
no
shocking
new
numbers
just
yet
still
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
the
majority
of
our
counties
remain
in
that
very
high
transmission
rate
covet
icu
utilization
is
quite
high
at
40
percent.
The
icus
are
basically
full
statewide
and
20.
Almost
21
percent
of
kids
5
to
11
have
had
that
first
shot
we're
getting
we're
inching
closer
to
a
half,
a
million
people
statewide
who
have
received
a
booster
shot,
which
is
good
news
and
we
need
it
desperately
at
this
point.
I
I
But
at
this
point
they
are
really
really
encouraging
people
who
are
unvaccinated
and
unboosted
to
not
attend
indoor
mass
gatherings
and
they're
they've
looked
at
how
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
more
people
vaccinated,
more
people
getting
boosters.
They
know
that
their
busiest
vaccination
days
are
on
the
weekend
and
that
the
health
department
is
the
only
entity
giving
vaccinations
or
boosters
that
doesn't
require
an
appointment,
so
they're
pretty
dramatically
expanding
their
weekend.
I
Vaccination
opportunities,
starting
this
saturday
and
sunday,
they're
going
to
be
operating
at
this
point
through
the
end
of
january,
is
scheduled
out
for
every
weekend,
except
for
december
25th
and
there's
a
good
list
of
those
clinics
are
open,
10
to
4
every
saturday
and
sunday
at
redwood
road
and
at
the
government
center
down
on
21st
and
and
state
street.
So
for
salt
lake
city
residents,
those
are
convenient
and
our
next
slide
is
with
the
school
district
vaccination
sites.
I
You
can
see
that
full
list
at
slcs
rather
slcschools.org,
and
there
are
so
many
vaccination
opportunities,
walk
in
no
appointments
necessary.
Please
take
advantage
of
it
and
counsel
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
connect
you
for
your
communication
with
the
residents
you
you
are
in
contact
with
to
help.
Let
us
know
we
want
to
help
make
that
as
easy
as
possible.
I
Next
we're
getting
into
andrew
johnston
and
just
being
in
this
room,
I
almost
called
him
councilmember
johnston,
but
I
haven't
haven't
felt
that
urge
in
a
long
time
and
andrew's
joining
us
virtually
today.
To
give
you
an
oh
I'm
sorry,
I'm
skipping
the
vaccination
rates,
but
that's
the
slide.
We
update
for
you
each
tuesday
that
you
meet
and
those
are
our
three
most
impacted,
zip
codes
in
the
state
or
in
the
city.
I
Our
citywide
average
you'll
notice
is
67
percent
for
fully
vaccinated.
The
state
is
only
just
over
61,
so
we're
doing
we're
having
improvement
there.
Andrew,
are
you
with
us?
I
am.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
except
I
did
skip
one
more
slide,
which
I
apologize
andrew
is
the
county-wide
demographic
update
that
we
bring
you
each
week.
P
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
apologize.
I
can't
be
there
today
in
person.
The
first
slide
is
the
typical
one
about
the
census
at
the
resource
centers.
It
is
smaller.
I
apologize
for
that.
G
The
most
recent
we
come
up
this
past
week,
mostly
due
to
the
geraldine
women's
center,
dropping
a
little
bit
in
their
census,
though
it's
still
running
quite
high,
effectively
full
over
95
percent
on
the
far
right
of
that
top
one
you'll
also
see
a
new
column,
which
is
for
the
overflow
at
st
vincent
de
paul
dining
hall
and
we'll
have
that
going
forward
through
the
winter
time.
So
you
get
a
sense
of
how
many
folks
are
utilizing
that
next
slide.
G
This
is
the
update
about
the
final
resource,
fair.
You
can
see.
We
had
at
madsen
park
on
the
30th,
I'm
going
to
try
and
go
off
of
memory,
since
I
can't
really
see
the
details
of
the
slide
on
my
phone,
but
we
had
a
lot
of
folks
there.
The
next
slide
will
show
you
a
lot
of
the
providers.
We
had
there
a
lot
of
the
outcomes.
G
A
lot
of
services
were
provided
to
folks
and
it
was
actually
very,
very
successful
there,
some
of
the
providers.
I
think
this
is
the
law
providers
we've
had
at
any
resource
fair
this
year
and
at
the
very
bottom
we
had
lunch
as
well
from
a
number
of
three
groups
and
uta
also
was
distributing
bus
passes
and
transit
passes,
which
is
a
big
deal.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
all
those
partners
who
helped
us
out
next
slide.
G
G
They
are
still
trying
to
hire
up
that
facility
based
on
fire
code,
they're,
looking
at
35
beds
and
then
staff
on
top
of
that,
and
then
the
high
needs
overflow
motel,
which
is
the
option
of
north
temple.
We've
discussed
previously.
That
is
still
going
through
the
process
of
the
safety
and
security
plan.
G
I
mean
looking
at
hiring
staff
to
try
and
plan
and
get
things
rolling
there
and
they're
looking
at
250
beds,
it's
the
max,
as
identified
by
the
council,
there's
also
a
variety
of
rooms
in
there
they
can
use
for
flexing
different
populations
as
they
need
to
so
we're
talking
about
those
who
are
older
or
medically
frail
or
vulnerable.
The
unsheltered
in
general,
who
are
outside
in
the
streets
in
that
area,
so
more
information
on
those
two
as
we
go
forward
into
the
month
next
slide.
P
G
R
K
For
you,
on
the
previous
on
the
previous
slide,
you
were
on
the
previous
slide.
You
were
talking
about
saint
vincent
de
paul.
Is
that
accurate
for
st
vinnie's,
or
is
that
should
that
be
weakened?.
G
Excuse
me
you're
right,
councilmember
ferris,
that
is
vegan,
that
is
yeah.
It
was
mislabeled
by
myself.
So
yes,
that
should
have
been
the
weekend.
Saint
vincent
depaul
is
open.
The
weekend
is
looking
to
open
as
soon
as
possible.
K
G
And
there
we
go
so
those
of
you
may
in
the
council
may
remember
this
slide
from
a
few
meetings
back,
maybe
one
or
two
meetings.
G
This
was
talking
about
the
need
for
emergency
shelter,
on
the
left-hand
column
for
deeply
affordable
housing
in
the
right-hand
column
and
then
the
years
on
the
left,
21
22-24
and
the
total
need,
as
projected
by
the
sally
valley,
coalition
and
homelessness,
as
you
can
see,
1700
emergency
beds
typically
and
same
this
winter,
but
we
need
in
the
next
three
years
now
7
000
units
so
trying
to
make
sure
we
all
keep
our
focus
on
the
housing
discussion
as
really
the
solution
here.
G
That
really
needs
to
stay
as
the
primary
objective
for
all
of
our
efforts.
I
wanted
to
start
with
this
slide,
because
the
next
slide
will
talk
a
little
more
about
that.
The
next
two
actually
next
slide,
please.
G
This
is
the
same
deeply
portable
housing
on
the
right-hand
column
on
the
left
of
the
year
on
the
years,
21-24
psh,
that
middle
column
is
of
the
deeply
affordable
housing
numbers.
How
many
are
projected
to
need
to
be
permanent,
supportive
housing,
the
highest
level
of
support?
Essentially,
it's
generally
about
15
of
the
total,
deeply
affordable
housing
numbers
so
you'll
see
in
the
next
three
years,
because
we
need
about
a
thousand
of
those
compared
to
7
000
of
the
total
deeply
affordable
housing
numbers.
This
is
important
because
this
is
a
population
that
is
underserved.
G
G
Right
now,
as
of
today,
we
estimate
that
of
the
entire
state
of
utah
that
left-hand
column
there,
all
the
permanent
court
of
housing
in
the
entire
state
that
we're
aware
of
sixty
percent
of
it
is
in
salt
lake
city
right
now,
within
salt
lake
county.
On
the
right,
we
estimate,
based
on
what
we
know,
almost
three
quarters
of
all
the
permanent
sport
of
housing,
and
this
is
exists
in
our
city
right
now,
salt
lake
city.
G
So,
as
we
move
forward
in
discussions
about
creating
deeply
affordable
housing,
creating
permanent
support
of
housing,
this
is
an
important
factor.
It
should
talk
a
lot
about
how
we
envision
sort
of
dispersal
of
deeply
affordable
or
permanent
sport
of
housing.
What
the
city's
role
should
be
moving
forward,
which
I
think
we
still
should
discuss
and
then
come
to
ideas
about,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
the
council
was
aware
of
these
numbers.
G
As
you
move
into
your
own
discussions
as
we
move
into
next
year
that
we
can
keep
creating
premise
board
of
housing
and
deeply
affordable,
which
is
great,
but
we
also
keep
in
mind
it's
disproportionately
already
in
our
city
and
the
more
resources.
We
know
that
end
up
in
salt
lake
city
and
the
mayor's
talk
about
this,
the
more
the
housing
comes
here
and
the
more
the
services
come
here
again,
and
it's
sort
of
that
circular
pattern.
G
P
F
F
As
you
know,
the
number
one
goal
of
our
crime
control
plan
is
to
reduce
crime
absolutely
to
reduce
crime
in
the
communities
of
salt
lake
city,
and
I
want
you
to
know.
We
are
headed
in
the
right
direction,
but
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
crime
does
happen
and
it
doesn't
always
have
to
be
violent
crime.
It
still
has
a
huge
impact
in
our
community
anywhere
from
property
crimes,
including
the
the
windows,
were
broken
out
in
the
area
of
1900,
south
and
2800
east
that
we're
investigating
right
now.
F
That's
why
our
officers
are
working
hard
every
day
to
address
crime,
and
for
that
I
want
to
thank
them,
and
so
now
to
the
numbers
council.
This
is
for
the
week
of
november
29th
to
december
5th.
Citywide.
Overall
crime
is
down
23
percent.
In
the
last
28
days,
city-wide
violent
crime
is
down
1
in
the
last
28
days.
City-Wide
property
crimes
are
down
25
percent
in
the
last
20
28
days
and
then
city-wide
overall
crime
is
down.
4.3
percent
year-to-date
and
city-wide.
Overall
crime
is
down
0.4,
almost
a
half
percent
year-to-date
over
the
five-year
average.
F
F
Yeah
and
then
I'd
like
to
turn
the
time
over
to
captain
scott
tearlink
he's
got
a
quick
review
of
some
technologies
that
we're
looking
at.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
dugan
for
the
time
he
spent
over
here
with
us
at
the
technology,
fair
that
we
had
and
with
that
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
scott.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you.
So
we
had
a
request
to
give
an
update
to
the
council
on
on
three
of
our
items
that
we're
working
on
technology
wise.
So
I
wanted
to
update
you
on
those
three
items
and
then
there's
two
additional
ones
that
I
we
thought
that
the
council
would
be
very
interested
to
see
a
couple
of
the
exciting
new
technologies
that
are
coming
in
the
hopefully
in
the
upcoming
year.
That
will
really
help
us
to
connect
better
with
our
with
our
citizens
and
and
to
engage
our
community
more
with
us.
O
So
with
that
we'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
The
first
one
that
we
were
asked
to
give
an
update
on
is
our
drone
program.
O
We're
currently
researching
best
practices,
we're
actually
pretty
complete
on
the
research
part
of
it
we're
working
with
other
agencies
as
far
as
working
with
them
to
see
what
has
worked
well
with
other
agencies,
we're
being
very
cautious
and
careful
with
our
policy
and
the
implementation
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
have
our
our
program
focus,
which
is
detailed
out
there
of
what
we're
really
focusing
this
program
to
be
on
again.
O
This
program
will
be
implemented
in
stages,
we'll
look
to
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
to
get
the
funding
requests
into
our
annual
budget,
and
if
that
is
approved,
then
we'll
start
with
the
first
year
stage
and
then,
depending
on
the
success
of
that
program,
we
would
look
to
expand
it
from
there
and
next
slide.
O
O
Both
of
these
companies
are
providing
us
a
free
one
year
test
and
trial
of
25
cameras,
so
in
the
coming
couple
of
months,
we'll
be
putting
these
cameras
up
as
a
test
to
see
which
systems
we
like
the
best,
and
we
don't
have
to
pick
one
or
the
other.
This
is
one
where
several
cities
actually
utilize
both
for
different
different
systems,
so
we're
working
working
again
with
other
agencies
to
determine
best
practices.
O
What
has
been
determined
to
work
really
well
other
places
and
we're
going
through
the
careful
policy
and
implementation
plan
again
again,
focusing
on
on
the
protection
of
our
citizen
rights
and
and
privacy,
and
to
utilize
it
for
the
right
reasons
again
for
crime
reduction
as
a
force
multiplier
and
having
transparency
with
our
community
again,
this
one
is
not
funded.
Yet
this
will
be
a
funding
request
on
our
annual
budget
and,
if
approved,
we'll,
look
to
kick
this
off.
In
the
coming
fiscal
year
also,
next
slide.
O
O
Now
we're
actively
configuring
that
to
get
it
integrated
with
our
other
systems
that
should
be
completed
in
the
in
the
coming
two
months.
Where
and
what
that
program
does.
Is
it
helps
us
to
see
live,
how
we're
doing
on
all
of
the
different
legislative
intents
with
body,
worn
cameras,
so
that
we
can
see
if,
if
we're
at
100
or
what
percentage
of
activations
we're
having?
O
O
O
This
is
actually
a
really
good
thing
for
us
to
be
able
to
improve
our
supervision
of
officers
and
to
have
better
awareness
as
we're
going
into
situations
to
be
able
to
see
live,
what's
happening
as
we're
working
together
and
collaborating
on
some
of
those
bigger
calls.
O
There's
the
next
one
is
called
transcribe
that
one's
also
active,
that
is
any
body
worn,
camera,
recording
and
and
actually
any
any
video
that
comes
into
our
system.
We
can
transcribe
it
automatically
and,
of
course,
then
go
through
and
just
make
sure
that
the
clean
up
any
errors
or
things
like
that,
but
that
is
a
huge
time.
Saving
and
money
saving
feature.
O
O
O
It
would
be
a
great
asset
to
the
police
department,
the
fire
department
and
9-1-1
we'll
be
asking
for
a
budget
request
to
try
to
implement
this
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2022
next
slide
and
just
the
the
high
end
of
what
it
is
when
you
order
anything
on
amazon
or
even
when
you
order
a
pizza,
we're
used
to
immediate
communication
verification
that
the
call
was
received.
Here's
your
order,
number
here's
what's
happening
and
then
updates
as
things
move
on
next
slide.
O
This
would
do
the
same
thing
for
the
police
department.
It's
a
way
that
we
can
help
serve
the
people
where
they
are
the
way
that
they
want
to
be
served
and
with
our
limited
resources
next
slide
and
the
way
that
it
works
is
it
connects
with
our
our
systems
that
we
have
in
place
with
dispatch
and
our
records
management,
and
then
it
automatically
generates
emails
and
texts
based
on
events
that
are
configurable
to
us,
and
then
it
delivers
those
to
crime,
victims
and
9-1-1
callers
next
slide.
O
And
then
those
that
made
the
call
they
get
updates
if
an
arrest
was
made.
What
their
case
number
is
what
detective
was
assigned
when
the
case
is
closed
and
it
it
is
a
great
way
so
that
our
citizens
don't
feel
like
they.
They
made
a
phone
call
and
have
been
forgotten.
They
get
timely
updates.
They
are
frequently
updated.
So
a
tremendous
technology
that
I
think
will
be
a
a
game
changer
for
our
industry
and
next
slide.
O
And
then
a
really,
the
final
feature
of
that
is
that
I
want
to
talk
about
today
is
after
we
complete
a
call
for
service.
It
also
sends
the
caller
a
link
to
do
a
survey
so
that
we
can
get
immediate
feedback
and
start
really
working
with
our
citizens
of
how
we
can
improve
service
or
give
accolades
for
jobs.
Well
done,
but
it's
a
way
we
can
gather
feedback
and
and
really
get
the
conversation
with
our
citizens
on
on
helping
us
develop
in
a
way
that
is
beneficial
to
them
and
next
slide.
O
The
final
product
that
I
want
to
talk
about
today
is
it's
called
case
service.
Again.
This
is
a
great
product
that
will
that
would
serve
both
the
police
department
and
9-1-1.
O
This
one
simply
takes
incoming
calls
and
with
ai
it
can
separate
out
things
that
need
a
patrol
response
versus
things
that
maybe
don't
need.
A
patrol
response
could
be
done
over
the
phone
or
could
be
done
online,
so
that
will
really
be
able
to
help
us
speed
up
our
response
times
to
things
that
really
need
a
response.
O
Next
slide
once
those
are
separated,
it
takes
the
things
that
don't
necessarily
need
a
patrol
response
and
it
can
use
artificial
intelligence
voice
communication
through
phone
or
the
citizens
can
go
through
an
app
or
through
the
web.
This
is
all
set
up
in
multiple
languages,
so
it
reaches
to
a
large
community
with
numerous
languages
and
numerous
ways.
O
So
if
they
don't
have
access
to
to
a
smartphone
or
the
web,
they
can
just
make
a
simple
telephone
call
and
have
a
conversation
with
an
artificial
intelligence
that
asks
questions
and
then
generates
the
report
for
them,
and
so
that
would
save
a
large
amount
of
time
and
be
able
to
help
us
divert
a
lot
of
calls
that
don't
need
response
times
to
getting
these
reports
streamlined
into
our
system
for
follow-up
next
slide,
and
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
we
have
otherwise
I'll
I'll
turn.
The
time
back
over
to
you.
P
P
We
have
a
good
chunk
of
time
set
aside
for
this
item
so
that
we
can
get
through
the
things
we
need
to
get
through
with
it.
So
with
this
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
council
office
policy,
analyst
ben
ludke.
We
also
have
chief
financial
officer,
mary
beth
thompson
here
with
us
as
well.
So
it's
all
yours,
ben.
D
This
is
the
third
briefing
for
budget
amendment
number
four.
The
council
held
a
public
hearing
on
november
16th
closed
the
hearing
and
partially
adopted
some
of
the
items.
Those
include
a
5
and
a
10..
This
was
the
community
health
access
team,
the
chat
program
where
firefighters
and
social
workers
jointly
deploy
in
response
to
a
call.
D
D
The
first
item
I
thought
we'd
start
with
was
e-2
the
winter
shelter
support
since
the
administration
sent
a
revised
transmittal,
and
this
was
since
the
staff
report
was
published.
So
the
information
in
the
staff
report
is
now
outdated.
On
this
item.
The
revised
transmittal
is
now
recommending
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
arpa.
The
previous
amount
was
a
million.
D
D
The
police
department
has
reached
out
to
other
law
enforcement
agencies
to
request
their
police
officers
also
participate
in
this
effort
with
voluntary
overtime
now
for
our
police
department,
other
agencies
they've
all
reported
labor
shortages
for
officers.
That's
part
of
the
reason.
The
request
has
been
made
to
other
agencies
to
participate
if
they
have
the
staffing
levels
to
do
so.
D
In
addition
to
the
400
000
from
the
city's
arpa
funding,
the
county
would
contribute
400
000
as
well.
So
a
total
budget
of
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
council
may
wish
to
discuss
with
the
administration
whether
business
assistance
should
be
provided
to
businesses
adjacent
to
the
overflow
shelter,
and
I
believe
we
have
chief
brown
and
andrew
johnston
available
on
this
item.
The
police
department
also
sent
a
one-page
infographic
talking
about
how
they
estimated
the
total
cost
for
public
safety
being
hundred
eight
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
dollars.
We
can
put
that
up
on
the
screen.
F
Thank
you,
ben
council.
What
we
were
looking
at
was
the
last
year's
airport
inn
and
the
overall
shelter,
and
we
looked
at
the
number
of
calls
for
service
both
at
the
shelter
and
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
and
we
ran
a
timeline
from
october
november
december
and
into
january
february,
march
and
april
when
the
shelter
was
actually
open.
So
we
could
see
the
impact
of
the
calls
that
we
were
going
on,
and
there
definitely
was
an
increase
of
calls
not
only
to
the
shelter
but
also
into
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
F
So
with
that,
with
with
that
knowledge
and
knowing
where
this
new
shelter
would
sit,
and
it
would
be
almost
twice
the
size
we
estimated
that
it
would
probably
be,
it
would
probably
take
about
four
officers
in
a
five
hour
shift
four
shifts
a
day
so
20
hours
a
day,
24
7
to
handle
the
calls
and
do
the
work
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
at
the
shelter
that
we've
been
asked
to
do.
F
We
figured
that
would
be
eighty
dollars
an
hour.
We
incentivize
the
overtime
so
that
sixty
five
dollars
goes
to
the
officer
each
hour.
Fifteen
dollars
goes
back
to
the
agency
for
the
vehicle,
fuel
and
maintenance,
and
that
would
that
equals
sixteen
hundred
dollars
a
day
times
120
days.
So
the
estimated
shelter
operation
period
for
those
different
shifts
would
be
192.
F
000
multiply
that
by
four
takes
us
to
the
to
the
eight
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
dollars,
and
that
also
includes
a
salt
lake
city
supervisor,
with
five
hours
worth
of
supervision
each
day,
to
make
sure
that
we
coordinate
with
the
different
agencies
that
are
coming
in
here,
that
we
know
exactly
that.
We
we
instruct
them
as
to
how
we
want
them
to
work
here
in
the
city.
F
What
our
intent
would
be
and
then
help
them,
coordinate
the
reports
and
different
things
that
we
need
to
do
here
as
well,
so
the
entire
program,
from
start
to
finish,
would
be
816
000.
Now
again,
these
shifts
are
voluntary,
we're
hoping
that
we
will
get
good
participation
from
the
agencies
across
the
valley.
I've
spoke
to
most
the
chiefs
here
in
the
valley
and
including
the
state
commissioner,
anderson
and
they've
committed
that
they
would
put
those
out
to
see
you
know
which
officers
will
sign
up
and
then
also
there
are.
F
D
I
have
one
clarification
to
add.
Madam
chair,
when
I
said
the
total
budget
is
eight
hundred
thousand
and
then
the
chief
said
the
total
estimated
cost
is
816
000..
The
reason
the
administration
is
requesting
less
than
the
816
is
because
when
this
was
developed,
it
was
anticipated
that
there
would
be
a
few
additional
weeks
of
the
temporary
shelter
operating
since
that
is
not
the
case
today.
That's
why
slightly
less
is
being
requested.
P
Make
sense
council
members,
council
member
ferris
hold
down
your
mouse,
so
we
can
hear
you
better.
K
G
Council
member
ferris,
this
is
andrew
johnston,
the
the
the
one
million
that
the
mayor
initially
proposed
was
sort
of
vague,
as
you
remember,
for
operation
safety,
security,
a
number
of
things
as
we've
had
the
negotiations
both
within
the
city.
Obviously,
with
this
council
and
the
mayor,
and
also
talking
to
the
solid
valley
coalition
and
state
entities,
it
was
clear
from
the
the
council.
We
took
it
as
a
clear
message
that
safety
and
security
was
a
top
priority
and
then
mitigation
in
the
area
around
that.
G
Whatever
that
looked
like
for
businesses,
whatever
it
might
be,
were
the
two
priorities
above
say:
operations
funding,
since
the
coalition
and
shelter
of
the
homeless
do
have
still
a
gap
in
the
operations
budget.
They
still
are
lacking
some
money
and
the
county
was
willing
to
work
with
all
of
us
on
safety
and
security
funding
for
mitigation.
G
We
don't
at
this
time
have
any
recommendation
for
that
unless
the
council
has
some
thoughts
on
how
they
wanted
to
utilize
that
I'm
sure
it
could
be
useful
in
the
homeless
services
system,
but
we've
been
careful
to
convey
the
council
and
the
mayor's
clear
preference
to
ensure
that
safety
and
security
and
mitigation
are
taken
care
of
first
in
that
area
above
other
needs.
I
A
I
And
the
businesses
safe
so
we're
using
the
money
for
those
purposes,
and
although
we
didn't
want
to
have
any
salt
lake
city
pd
consumed
in
this
process,
the
reality
with
the
limitations
that
ben
mentioned
in
departments
far
beyond
our
borders
is
such
that
we
all
kind
of
need
to
chip
in.
So
this
is
a
bit
of
a
negotiation
and
I
feel
good
about
it,
but
they
could
ask.
J
Okay-
and
we
only
and
that's
it's
in
the
same,
like
we
don't
have
to
use
that
money
any
faster
than
we
do.
The
other
arpa
funds
that
we're
getting
correct.
D
J
P
It
just
basically
goes
back
to
the
arpa
funds
that
we
have
sitting
there
and
when
the
mayor
comes
back
with
another
proposal
or
an
idea
or
the
council
does,
then
we
can
have
that
discussion
and
I
think
that
it
may
go
to
the
overflow
shelter
right
it
may
go.
Those
are
all
that
600
000
is
still
just
sitting
there
saying.
P
Let's
have
some
more
discussion
about
it,
because,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
that
with
this
new
proposal
we
and
as
andrew
wright
mentioned-
we
I
think
it's
the
recognition
that
number
one
salt
lake
city
police
officers
are
going
to
be
out
there.
Anyway,
I
mean
it's
just
the
reality
of
it
right
and
number
two.
P
You
know
they
did
kind
of
part
of
what
we
asked
to
be
done,
which
is
go
out
to
other
entities
and
say
we
need
your
help
here
and
the
county's
willing
to
put
forth
that
400
000,
and
so
I
think
this
proposal
came
out
of
that.
If
saying
the
600
000
can
still
sit
there
and
have
that
discussion
for
other
mitigating
things.
I
mean
at
this
point
just
about
anything,
but
that
right
now
that
400
000
is
necessary
so
that
we
can
accomplish
the
goal
of
keeping
the
area
safe
for
everyone.
L
S
Mayors,
hey
madam
chair,
so
I
think
that
brings
a
question
so
for
those
fans
ben
asked
a
question
or
encourage
us
to
ask
a
question
about:
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
businesses
surrounding
the
this
new
shelter
or
the
business
that
is
there
at
the
shelter.
How
is
economic
development
going
to
mitigate
any
impacts
on
these
businesses
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
anybody
to
talk
about
that.
D
C
Yes,
hi
council
members
great
to
be
here
with
you
to
answer
the
question
about
the
needs
of
the
business.
There
is
some
ambiguity
as
to
if
the
business
will
be
relocated
or
remain
on
the
site
and
that's
a
negotiation
between
the
property
owner
and
the
operator
right
now
and
what's
going
to
be
best
for
the
business,
there
are
options
to
consider
for
financing
that
could
provide
contingencies
there
and
we
can
provide
that
recommendation.
C
S
F
P
Question
for
you,
but
I
think
that
that
is
part
of
the
discussion
that
we
haven't
had
yet
of
what
people
could
expect
and
and
something
that
I
think,
needs
to
sort
of
be
it's
somewhat
of
an
internal
conversation
just
so
that
we
can
define
what
those
parameters
look
like
and
how
and
what
and
rachel
is
here.
So
I'm
gonna
and
looked
like
she
wanted
to
say
something.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
rachel,
real,
quick
and
then
back
to
ben.
T
How
how
how
far
you
might
want
to
extend
such
you
know:
potential
assistance,
whether
that
would
extend
to
businesses
in
the
area
of
other
hrc's
or,
if
it's
limited
to
a
temporary
winter
shelter.
There's
a
lot
of
programs
that
are
or
there's
potentially
some
programs
that
are
already
built
that
we
could
allocate
funding
to
more
specifically.
But
I
think
we
should
have
a.
We
should
have
a
more
thorough
conversation
about
what
we're
looking
for
here.
S
J
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
it's
like,
if
it's
too
premature,
but
I
would
be
interested,
I
guess
I'll
just
propose
it
and
you
can
vote
a
straw
poll
that
I
and
I
think,
we're
all
in
agreement,
but
I
to
show
that
we
want
to
use
the
600
000
for
either
businesses
or
or
other
community-centered
things
in
the
area
immediately
adjacent
to
the
shelter.
J
So
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
like
put
it
in
a
separate
account
or
anything
yet,
because
I
also
don't
want
us
to
necessarily
be
limited
to
six
hundred
thousand
but
yeah.
While
we
have
those
conversations
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
have
something
in
our
minds
that
we're
not
just
going
to
roll
this
back
into
all
the
other
arpa
money
and
use
it
for
some
other
project.
So
I
would
propose
that
we,
you
know
tentatively
designate
at
least
six
hundred
thousand
for
community-based
activities
in
that
area.
P
K
M
Just
a
a
question
to
ask
the
council
there
there
are
conversations
going
on
with
the
state,
and
the
thought
originally
was
that
the
city
would
only
put
in
money
in
if
the
state
and
county
contributed
and
the
county
is
involved.
The
state,
of
course,
takes
a
longer
time.
If,
if
you
put
a
condition
on
this
money
that
the
program
we
use
that
until
the
program
is
fully
funded,
then
there's
then
you're
really
taking
city
resources
and
filling
a
gap.
M
That
is
maybe
not
the
cities
to
fill
since,
since
the
program
is
statewide
the
homeless
and
the
homelessness
issue
is
statewide,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
phrase
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish,
but
I
just
have
want
to
share
that.
One
worry.
I
don't
know
how
to
fix
it,
though.
Well.
J
J
Our
eligible
idea.
J
Well,
the
600
000
the
400
000
we're
already
going
to
spend,
but
we
know
we're
yes,
so
functionally
yes,
but
just
to
be
clear
for
anybody
that
may
be
watching
at
home
and
the
many
people
we
have
here
in
the
audience
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
million
like
of
where
the
where
that
number
is
coming
from
and
that's
a
600
000.
yeah,
and
I
I
think
it's
important
too,
that
you
know
for
the
members
of
the
community
that
are
watching
to
understand
that
we're
we're
trying
to
take
those
steps.
J
That
is
part
of
the
promise
that
we
made
at
the
last
meeting,
and
so
I
I
think
you
know
having
this
vote
even
though
we're
not
quite
sure
exactly
how
we're
gonna
spend
it.
You
know
to
do
this.
Straw
poll
is
important
for
the
community
and
I
know
you
agree.
I
know
councilmember
petro
eschler
agrees.
So
thank
you.
G
I
apologize
for
interjecting
some
time
frame.
Issues
may
be
helpful.
This
point
for,
for
you
all
from
the
state
funding
perspective,
they
really
don't
have
the
ability
they
have
to
go
through
their
normal
process
through
the
state,
homelessness
council
and
then
through
the
executive
appropriations
committee.
To
do
this,
therefore,
the
earliest
that
state
money
could
be
sort
of
open
for
operations
of
the
overflow
would
be
january,
maybe
into
february
somewhere
in
there.
G
It
may
not
influence
your
planning
process
here,
but
just
so
you're
aware
that
that
is
probably
not
going
to
happen
between
now
and
then
just
based
on
their
meeting
schedules
and
other
stressors
and
then
obviously,
in
february
the
legislature
convened.
So
it
could
be
an
interesting
timing
issue
in
the
spring,
depending
on,
if
there's
money
or
not,
for
that
operational
operations
out
there.
P
Thank
you,
andrew
all,
right
council
members.
I
have
a
straw
poll
on
the
table
that
I'm
going
to
sort
of
repeat
and
hope
that
I
get
it
right
and
that
is
the
straw
poll
for
from
vice
chair
wharton,
suggests.
Supporting
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
be
used
in
community
activities
in
the
area
and
community
adjacent
to
the
overflow
shelter.
P
So
ben
I'm
going
to
interrupt
you
because
I
feel
like
interrupting
people
today,
apparently,
can
we
actually
sort
of
talk
about
like
e
three
four
five.
P
P
Called
out,
I
want
to
talk
about
both
of
those
things
together,
because
I
think
that
they
relate
to
one
another
and
while
we
may
need
to
go
through
them
individually,
I
would
like
for
us
to
sort
of
frame
this
as
these
alternative
response
models
that
we
have
been
talking
about
and
how
they
sort
of
work
together,
with
their
several
different
response
models
that
we
have
funded
or
looking
at
funding,
but
they
kind
of
I
was
telling
ben
this
earlier.
P
D
So,
stepping
back
looking
at
the
big
picture,
it
has
been
a
priority
of
the
city
council,
pretty
much
for
the
last
18
months
to
expand,
diversify
the
response
options
when
someone's
calling
9-1-1
and
right
now.
I
I
see
six
of
those
alternative
response
options,
so
the
park
ranger
program
being
one
of
them,
the
community
commitment
program
being
another,
including
the
rapid
intervention
team.
That's
proposed
in
this
budget
amendment
there's
also
the
social
worker
program
which
the
council
doubled
the
staffing
of
as
part
of
the
annual
budget.
D
D
They
each
have
different
hours
of
operation,
which
will
continue
to
evolve
based
on
staffing
levels
and
availability,
but
having
that
higher
level,
almost
like
a
graphic
or
a
chart
where
you
can
put
all
of
them
together
and
say,
these
are
all
of
the
alternative
response
options
available
when
you
call
9-1-1
in
salt
lake
city
and
here's
how
it
fits
the
different
types
of
calls
for
service.
So
we
don't
have
that
graphic
today.
But
we've
heard
from
some
of
you
that
you're
really
interested
in
it
I'm
seeing
more
nods.
P
P
I
think
it
is
a
helpful
tool
for
us
and
for
our
constituents
to
understand,
especially
because
this
has
been
such
a
priority
in
this
diversified
model
for
of
responses,
and
I'm
have
to
say
after
we
approved
these
eight
things
here
today
that
I'm
pretty
dang
proud
of
it
right,
because
we
really
are
doing
what
we
said.
We
would
do
and
say,
let's
look
at
what
the
community
needs
and
how
to
respond
to
it
and
and
still
be
supportive
of
our
first
responders.
P
So,
oh,
hey,
lisa
you're
up
on
the
big
screen,
so
we
were
just
talking
about
that
graphic
and
that
that
communication
tool
of
all
the
different
response
models
that
I'm
hoping
you
and
your
staff
can
work
with
ben
and
our
staff
and
kind
of
creating
something
that
can
be
publicly
outward
facing,
so
that
we
have
that
tool
to
explain
all
of
the
good
work
that
we're
doing
here
in
the
city.
For
those
different
alternative
models.
O
I
don't
have
anything
really
to
add
to
that
other
than
to
just
say
you
know
thank
you
for
the
collaboration
I
and
thank
you
to
the
council,
members
and
staff
members
of
the
council
who
have
met
with
us
to
discuss
these
various
programs,
and
we
do
recognize
that
with
this
great
progress
that
we're
made
making-
and
I
am
proud
of
it
as
well-
council
council,
chair
fowler,
I'm
super
proud
of
the
fact
that
we're
being
responsive
to
the
community,
we're
being
responsible
to
the
council,
we're
being
responsive
to
the
matrix
audit,
we're
being
responsive
to
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission
in
in
all
of
the
ways
that
they
have
asked
us
to
respond
and
very
proud
of
that,
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions,
but
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
yes,
the
suggestion
to
put
all
of
that
into
one
graphic
is
a
good
one
and
we
will
work
on
that.
O
Definitely
in
conjunction
with
council
staff.
P
D
D
The
benefit
is
this
is
a
creative
funding
approach.
The
difficulty
is
in
future
fiscal
years
next
year
and
the
year
after
the
city
could
again
use
this
approach
to
reimburse
the
general
fund,
but
it
won't
fully
cover
the
cost
in
future
years.
It's
about
an
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
funding
gap
next
fiscal
year.
If
you
were
to
approve
this
staffing
level,
so
the
staffing
level,
that's
proposed
19
ftes,
and
this
is
a
mixture
of
two
sergeants.
D
I
believe
it's
16
rangers,
yes,
16
rangers
and
one
support
position.
The
public
lands
department
would
house
this
new
program.
They
stated
at
a
minimum.
12
rangers
would
be
needed
in
order
to
start
the
program,
but
they're
recommending
the
higher
number
19
ftes,
because
they
want
to
do
a
larger
program.
D
The
program's
going
to
be
focused
in
specific
geographic
areas
that
correspond
to
where
the
highest
calls
for
service
occur
in
the
city's
green,
open
spaces.
This
is
jordan
park
and
the
jordan
river
parkway
fairmont
park
liberty
park
and
pioneer
park.
The
rangers
would
stay
at
existing
city
facilities
near
and
inside
these
parks.
This
would
include
the
soon
to
be
redeveloped
fisher,
mansion
carriage
house.
They
may
use
temporary
trailers
in
the
meantime
where
needed.
The
rangers
would
not
operate
in
the
foothills
or
the
outlying
areas.
D
D
The
rangers
would
be
unarmed.
They
would
not
go
through
the
same
training
and
certification.
As
a
police
officer,
the
administration
stated
they
could
have
a
limited
law
enforcement
role,
but
they
would
not
have
the
legal
law
enforcement
authority
or
weapons
of
a
police
officer.
So
there
are
instances
where
a
park
ranger
may
come
upon
a
situation
or
respond
to
a
complaint,
but
then
need
to
call
for
a
police
officer
response
in
most
criminal
matters.
D
The
total
cost
is
about
2.4
million
dollars
next
fiscal
year.
What
you're
being
asked
to
approve
today
is
1.6
million.
This
is
1.2
million
for
the
salaries
of
the
19,
ftes
and
400
thousand
dollars
for
one-time
costs,
and
the
one-time
costs
are
three
trucks
and
two
light
response
vehicles,
so
that
funding
would
go
to
the
fleet
fund.
D
D
The
table
shows
the
overtime
that
the
public
lands
department
has
been
paying
for
police
officers
to
go
and
work
in
parks
and
what
you'll
see
is
in
fiscal
year
18.
They
only
did
this
for
four
months:
it
was
63
000
and
then
the
following
year.
It
significantly
increased.
It
was
seven
months
where
they
used
overtime,
pay
for
police
officers
and
it
was
almost
a
quarter
million
dollars
and
then
the
last
two
fiscal
years.
It
almost
dropped
to
zero
because
of
the
staffing
challenges
in
the
police
department.
D
D
A
couple
of
policy
questions.
If
the
council
wanted
to
talk
about
the
effectiveness
of
the
rangers
in
responding
to
criminal
issues
in
parks
and
how
this
program
would
coordinate
with
the
existing
parks
bike
squad
that
the
police
department
already
operates,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
park's
bike
squad-
I
think
it
has
the
same
target
areas
of
parks
as
the
park
ranger
program
would
have.
P
J
Yes,
I
I
understand
the
the
crimes
that
are
occurring
in
parks
and
and
this
filling
that
need,
but
we'd
also
talked
about
this
program
as
being
as
including
the
foothill
trails
program
or
the
foothill
trails
in
the
past.
J
C
Yeah,
the
the
foothills
would
be
an
expansion
to
this
program.
The
foothills,
as
you
know,
are.
C
C
Utilities,
so
there
are
quite
a
few
different
landowners
up
there,
and
so
so
yes,
we
would
love
to
do
that
at
this.
L
Time
this
proposal
doesn't
include
that
expansive
of
a
reach.
We
were
primarily
primarily
looking
at
the
crime
rates
that
are
happening
in
our
parks.
J
Fine
not
right
now
thank.
P
You
other
council
members,
councilmember
valdemoros,.
S
S
Is
this
just
for
safety,
or
is
it
also
for
information
from
people
that
may
have
questions?
I
don't
know.
D
All
of
the
above
okay,
the
way
the
department
has
described
it,
is
part
of
the
reason
they
need.
The
trucks
is
because
they
would
be
moving
around
the
parks,
but
they
would
also
be
on
foot
patrols,
but
they
would
also
have
specific
spots
that
they
may
station
at
for
a
while,
but
the
intent
is
to
not
only
focus
on
criminal
issues,
but
also
general
rules
and
civility
in
the
park,
as
well
as
providing
information
education.
If
visitors
are
looking
for
directions,
if
they
want
to
know
more
history
about
the
park,
things
along
those
those
lines.
S
Awesome,
that's
awesome
and
then
the
other
question
is:
how
much
does
this
program
cost
like
if
I
understand,
there's
a
car,
a
one-time
cost
right
now
for
certain
things
and
then
the
ftes,
but
beyond
these
funds
that
we
have
right
now?
How
much
would
it
cost
the
city
to
keep
this
program
every
year
and
are
there
any
proposals
on
how
we're
going
to
make
that
money
up
to
if
we
wanted
to
continue
this
program?
Where
is
that
money
going
to
come
from.
D
R
Thanks
ben
back
to
the
question
from
council
member
voldemort
about
the
funding
side
of
the
house,
so
the
the
gross
expense
is
2.5
million
dollars,
but
we
also
have
to
realize
that
we're
not
going
to
be
paying
for
the
private
security
firm
and
would
also,
hopefully
I
mean
with
the
advent
of
this
program.
The
desire
is
that
we'll
be
reducing
some
of
the
overtime
from
the
police
department
and
also
reducing
the
calls
service
time.
D
R
K
I
I
also
say
thanks
for
giving
me
a
chance.
It's
it's
harder
being
online
is
easier
to
raise
my
hand,
but
that
council,
member
with
the
one
of
the
recent
actions
we've
taken
with
the
new
revised
crime
control
plan,
to
open
up
overtime,
shifts
and
advertise
for
positions
for
call
diversion
for
officers
to
take
those
calls
and
fill
out
those
case
numbers
without
deploying
a
patrol
officer
we've
seen
they've
done,
they
did
over
700
calls
in
just
the
first
couple
of
weeks
that
they
were
active.
We
know
that
there's
a
call
reduction
benefit
we're
seeing.
I
We
can't
attribute
all
of
the
call
reduction
time
to
that,
but
it's
a
pretty
obvious
improvement
so
to
say
that
there's,
you
know
going
to
be
a
direct
fund
or
a
direct
general
fund
improvement
on
that.
Perhaps
we
could
extrapolate
that,
but
really
there
are
other
benefits
that
I
know
you
know,
but
just
to
give
you
a
really
recent
example
with
the
call
diversion
model.
That's
working
so
well.
R
Thank
you,
man.
That
was
kind
of.
I
appreciate
that
very
much,
because
that's
kind
of
my
point
here
is
that
the
ranger
program
has
a
lot
of
benefits,
along
with
the
other
five
other,
the
chat,
the
cit,
the
community
commitment
program.
All
those
have
great
benefits
across
the
city
that
will
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
program
in
general,.
I
Madam
chair,
if
I
I
wanted
to
chime
in
at
the
beginning
of
the
item,
but
I
I
I
didn't-
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thanks
to
the
way
ben's
characterized
this
and
and
lisa
that
we're
what
we're
doing
with
this
suite
of
it's
a
big
budget
amendment-
and
I
know
that
I'm
sorry
for
the
weight
of
it.
But
I'm
excited
by
what
we
can
take
on
because
instead
of
the
city
showing
up
with
a
standard
size,
phillips
head
screwdriver
to
fix
every
issue,
that's
out
there.
I
Some
people
need
to
replace
a
watch
battery.
Some
people
need
to
take
a
tree
down.
Some
people
need
to
pry
open
a
can
and
we're
finally
making
that
swiss
army
knife
so
to
speak
and
being
able
to
show
up
to
calls
and
serve
people
better
and
pre,
and
really
at
the
bottom
line,
improve
quality
of
life
across
the
city,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
this
package
of
the
budget
amendment
and
definitely
the
park.
I
R
J
Thank
you.
What
do
we
know?
J
What
the
calls
that
we're
currently
receiving
to
police
are
for,
say,
enzyme
peak
and
things
like
that,
because
my
guess
is
that
those
would
also
be
very
high,
and
so,
if
we
can,
we
get
that
data
and
information
so
that
we
can
can
look
at
that,
because
I
I
know
that
I
get
a
lot
of
information
from
from
constituents
who
are
calling
the
police
for
those
locations
and
for
the
other
at
the
trailhead
on
18th
avenue,
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
those
compare
to
the
other
calls
for
police
backup
that
we're
getting
at
other
parks.
D
J
Yeah,
because
I
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
and
what
I've
been
thinking
of
since
my
last
question
is
that
you
know
in
trying
to
reduce
the
burden
that
is
on
police
a
lot
of
what
you
know.
What
I'm
telling
my
constituents
is
is
that
you
know,
because
the
resources
are
stretched
so
thin.
That's
why
you
know
they're
not
getting
call
and
responses
to
these,
and
some
of
them
are
nuisance
issues,
but
a
lot
of
them
are,
I
think,
really
legitimate
safety
issues,
especially
when
you
get
activity
up
there.
J
That
could
put
like
large
groups
of
people
that
are,
you
know,
could
be
a
fire
hazard
or
something
like
that,
and
I
think
that
when
there's
no
response
at
all,
when,
when
residents
call
about
these
things,
you
know
it's
even
more
frustrating,
because
we
know
that's
a
dangerous
area
and
in
terms
of
the
wildlife
urban
interface.
J
So
I
would
like
to
know
you
know
if,
if
it's
not
gonna
be
that
we're
gonna
service,
these
areas
with
with
park
rangers,
then
does
that
mean
that
the
burden
we're
going
to
relieve
on
them
having
to
respond
to
these
other
parks
is
going
to
result
in
them
having
a
faster
response
time
to
these
trail
head
areas,
when
residents
call.
P
Can
can
I
say
something
to
that?
I
think
one
of
the
conversations
that
I
had.
I
think
it
was
today
with
the
mayor
and
lisa
and
is
so
I
fully
support
the
park
ranger
program
and
have
since
we
were
very
first
on
the
council,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
that
we
talked
about
is
that
this
program
is
in
some
ways,
still
being
still
being
built,
and
so
I
think
the
this
feedback
is
important
for
the
administration,
because
I
don't
think
that
it's
necessarily
like
this
is
set
in
stone.
P
This
is
like
these
park
rangers
shall
only
go
to
these
places,
but
my
understanding
and
I'll
point
to
lisa
and
kristen
on
this
is
that,
like
they
want
to
continue
having
this
feedback
in
this
conversation
to
make
this
program
better,
I
mean
it
is
a
pilot
program
which
I
think
the
whole
point
of
that
is
to
kind
of
continue
tweaking
it
where
we
see
something
that
needs
to
be
fixed
or
or
not,
tweak
it
if
it's
working
out
right,
but
I
just
kind
of
wanted.
That
was
the
conversation
I
had
with
lisa
earlier.
P
I
don't
know
if
lisa
kristen
want
to
address
that
as
well.
O
Sure,
council,
chair
fowler,
I'd,
be
happy
to
hop
in
here.
Yes,
one
one
of
the
issues
with
being
as
responsive
as
the
council
has
been,
and
certainly
as
this
administration
has
been
to
our
many
requests
for
alternate
response
models.
O
One
of
the
challenges
with
that
is,
we
are
building
a
lot
of
pretty
complex
programs
and
we're
doing
that
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
So
what
we've
proposed
seems
manageable
to
us
as
a
pilot,
but
the
feedback
is
definitely
definitely
hearing
it
right,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
you
know
it's
not
as
simple
as,
as
maybe
allocating
money
to
add
more
rangers
to
a
program
that
we
haven't
entirely
built.
O
Yet
I
think
it
would
be
very
prudent
of
us
to
take
a
look
at
those
calls
for
service
to
see
what
kinds
of
service
calls
we're
getting
to
give
the
pilot
program
a
few
months
where
we
analyze
the
data
and
see
what
we
get
back
and
then
talk
about
expanding.
But
I
I
do
appreciate
the
feedback
and
and
definitely
hear
the
concern
and-
and
I
to
your
point,
council,
member
wharton.
O
I
I
don't
know
if
I
answered
your
question,
but
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
that
we,
we
are
it's
a
challenge,
we're
building,
complex
programs
right
now
and
a
pilot
time
I
think,
would
be
prudent.
J
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that
very
much
I
just
want
to
we
lisa
you
and
I
have
talked
about
these
sort
of
ongoing
issues
and
and
kristin
too,
that
you
know
these
areas
that
are
happening
at
these
trailheads
or
sorry.
J
The
activities
that
are
happening
at
these
trailheads,
which
some
you
know
does
include
some
criminal
activity
but
part
of
why
I've
been
such
a
big
supporter
of
the
the
park
ranger
program
is
because
we
talked
about
that
as
a
possible
solution
to
some
of
these
things
that
we're
seeing-
and
I
don't
want
to-
I
want
to
go
forward
with
the
program
100
I
would
you
know
I
would.
J
I
would
support
it
either
way,
but
I
don't
want
that
part
of
the
conversation
to
be
lost,
especially
because
we're
not
anticipating
any
fewer
people
going
up
to
these
trail
heads
we're
not
anticipating
any
fewer
problems
happening
and
if
these
neighborhoods
are
going
to
welcome
people
from
all
over
the
city-
and
you
know
or
even
further,
you
know
to
come,
come
in
and
come
access.
J
The
trails
and
you
know
where,
where
these
are,
these
trails
belong
to
everybody,
not
just
the
people
who
live
near
them,
but
that
we're
also
going
to
make
sure
that
the
neighborhoods
are
going
to
remain
safe.
When
people
are
there
and
doing
things
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
up
in
the
foothills
and
then
putting
those
neighborhoods
at
risk
of
fire
or
or
other
activity
that
is,
is
above
nuisance
and
really
goes
to
you
know
public
health
or
or
safety
in
those
communities.
O
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
council
member
very
much,
and
I
I
did
also
want
to
sort
of
reiterate
that
the
park
ranger
program
that
we're
designing
the
rangers
themselves
will
not
be
armed,
and
so
some
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
would
definitely
require
a
police
response
anyway,
and
so
we're
coordinating
that
through
the
police
department
and
through
dispatch,
definitely
appreciate
the
conversation,
though.
L
Do
we
have
any
ideas
what
the
qualifications
are
for?
Who
will
who
will
hire
to
be
these
park
rangers,
like,
I
think,
another
impact
that
I
haven't
seen
quantified
here
is.
This
could
be
an
amazing
workforce
development,
especially
for
recruiting
west
high
graduates,
who
you
know,
might
be
kinesthetic
learners
and
might
be
more
eager
for
something
you
know
to
start
their
careers.
Do
we
have
any
idea
who
we're
targeting.
D
We've
requested
job
descriptions
which
would
state
the
qualifications
minimum
and
preferred
we
have
not
yet
received
the
job
description.
So
I
don't
know.
M
L
P
So,
ben
before
you
go
on
council
members,
we
are
almost
to
the
time
where
that
we
had
allocated
for
this
agenda
item
and
we've
hit
two
of
the
several
on
here.
P
So
this
brings
me
to
a
very
important
point
in
that
the
mayor
brought
up
and
that
I
think
we
can
recognize
there
are
some
the
park
ranger
program,
the
rapid
response
program,
the
community
commitment
program.
P
P
I
would
like
to
get
this
money
allocated,
and
so
this
is
set
for
a
vote
either.
I
mean
really
any
time
we
decide.
We
want
to
vote
on
it,
but
I
was
hoping
that,
if
not
this
week
then
next
week
that
we
could
get
this
done
before
the
end
of
the
year.
So
I
I
just
sort
of
wanted
to
throw
out
my
intention
there.
People
don't
have
to
agree
with
me,
but
that's
certainly
my
intention.
P
So
I'm
wondering
if
in
these
with
the
next
couple
of
items,
if
we
can
just
throw
up
the
staff
report
and
kind
of
walk
through
very
quickly,
we
don't
need
to
go
through
what
is
written
on
the
staff
report
but
sort
of
go
through
them,
star
them.
And
then,
if
there
are
questions
that
pop
out
as
we're
looking
at
them,
then
we
can
ask
those
questions
and
kind
of.
If
not,
we
can
just
move
on
so
that
these
have
been
good
discussions,
but
we
literally
have
only
gotten
through
two
budget
items
so.
D
D
So
this
is
the
first
of
four
items
that
are
all
related
to
the
community
commitment
program.
This
one
is
for
a
rapid
intervention
team.
It's
165
000
from
arpa.
Now,
that's
only
partial
year
funding
the
full
amount
for
next
fiscal
year
would
be
263
000.
So
this
is
another
item
that
could
increase
the
funding
gap
in
the
next
annual
budget.
D
It
would
be
for
three
new
ftes
they
would
be
in
the
sustainability
department.
They
would
be
supervised
by
the
homeless
engagement
coordinator
in
can
there's
a
question
about
why
they're
in
a
department
that's
separate
from
their
supervisor,
I
haven't
heard
a
response
from
the
administration
on
that.
D
So
it's
263
000
is
the
amount
that
would
need
to
be
put
into
the
next
annual
budget.
263.
D
D
Now
the
council
previously
appropriated
these
dollars,
but-
and
it
was
in
budget
amendment
7
last
spring,
but
the
economic
development
department
wasn't
able
to
use
any
of
the
funds
because
they
were
supposed
to
be
for
forgivable
loans,
but
that
loan
program
doesn't
allow
forgivable
loans,
so
they
weren't
able
to
use
it.
So
this
request
is
to
take
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
remove
it
from
the
economic
development
loan
fund
and
then
have
it
dispersed
as
grants
to
businesses.
D
It's
focused
on
outdoor
dining
and
retail,
so
it
would
be
five
thousand
dollars
for
outdoor
dining
or
ten
thousand
dollars
for
an
open
street
event.
The
reason
we're
bringing
this
to
you
is
if
you
would
prefer
to
wait
to
act
on
this
item,
when
the
department
has
specific
guidelines
for
the
program
that
you
can
review
or
if
you're
comfortable
making
the
shift
now,
knowing
those
guidelines
are
being
developed.
M
One
thing
that
we
have
been
noticing
is:
there
are
some
delegations
of
authority
particularly
to
economic
development,
and
they
don't
always
include
the
policy
language
that
is
standard
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
framework
that
you
as
the
policy
making
body
would
give.
So
you
could
always
appropriate
this
and
say
that
it's
pending
receipt
of
the
the
criteria
so
that
you
can
weigh
in
on
the
criteria
but
absent
having
some
sort
of
policy
weigh
in
on
the
specifics.
M
D
P
C
P
So
we
could
leave
this
off
of
this
budget
amendment
like
let's,
say
we
voted
on
things
today
or
next
week.
We
could
leave
this
off
and
wait
and
vote
on
it,
then,
because
we've,
if
now
that
my
memory
is
coming
back
to
me,
we
have
we
indicated
our
support
of
allocating
this
so
that
the
state
could
say
okay,
we
know
that
the
city's
in
and
we
felt
comfortable
putting
in
the
grant
application.
The
department
felt
comfortable
putting
that
in
right,
correct,
but
at
this
point
we
could
potentially
wait
until
we
find
out.
D
If
there's
no
other
questions
on
that,
it
takes
us
to
e5.
This
is
again
the
community
commitment
program,
it's
161
thousand
dollars
for
vehicles,
so
the
three
new
ftes
was
the
previous
item
on
this
topic.
This
is
the
vehicles
for
those
three
new
employees,
it'd
be
two
f-350
pickup
trucks
and
a
trailer
and
e-6
is
also
the
community
commitment
program.
But
this
one
is
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
from
arpa
for
police
officer
overtime
to
support
the
program.
D
So
this
would
be
specific
to
the
homeless,
encampment
cleanup
and
camp
reestablishment
stabilization
efforts,
the
administration
estimates
there'd
be
14,
major
cleanups
and
122
minor
cleanups
and
the
area
stabilization
and
an
important
point.
The
council
added
650
in
the
annual
budget
for
police
officer
over
time
to
support
the
community
commitment
program.
The
police
department
has
spent
all
of
that.
650
000
as
of
october
and
they've
also
spent
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
their
general
overtime
budget.
D
So
we're
a
third
of
the
way
through
the
fiscal
year
and
the
department
has
spent
over
half
of
the
overtime
budget.
So
this
additional
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
is
expected
to
be
enough
for
the
department
to
get
through
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
without
returning
for
another
overtime,
budget
increase.
D
So
that
takes
us
to
e8.
This
is
the
last
of
the
community
commitment
program
items
it's
57
000
from
arpa
for
additional
cleanings
by
advantage
services,
the
annual
budget
included
777
000
for
clean,
clean
neighborhood
efforts.
This
would
be
in
addition
to
that
two
questions.
If
the
council
is
interested
is
would
this
additional
funding
change
the
use
from
limited
to
public
cleaning
or
if
private
property
could
also
be
cleaned
in
some
instances?
P
D
D
D
So
this
four
million
dollars
would
go
into
a
holding
account
pending
the
rda
board's
approval
of
a
policy
for
the
program
and
then
long
term.
The
inland
port
authority's
jurisdictional
land
has
a
set
aside
for
housing
which
would
go
into
and
provide
the
ongoing
funding
source
long
term
for
the
for
the
program.
D
Team
effort,
that's
how
and
then
the
last
item.
This
is
e-10.
It's
a
proposal
to
take
four
million
dollars
from
arpa
for
non-profit
and
business
assistance,
community
grants.
Now
it's
split
into
two
parts:
two
million
dollars
for
business
assistance,
which
would
be
overseen
by
the
economic
development
department
and
two
million
dollars
for
non-profit
assistance,
which
would
be
overseen
by
the
can
department.
D
D
There
would
be
an
ad
hoc
committee
with
representatives
from
can
and
the
economic
development
department,
members
of
the
mayor's
office,
the
council
office
and
some
members
of
to
be
determined
city
boards
and
commissions,
who
would
form
this
ad
hoc
grant
application
review
committee.
That
committee
would
ask
questions
score
and
ultimately
determine
who
gets
awarded
the
funds.
So
this
is
a
delegation
of
authority
from
the
council
to
this
ad
hoc
committee,
and
this
is
one
of
the
policy
questions
is.
D
D
It
would
have
them
review
the
application,
since
they
are
familiar
with
this,
this
kind
of
assistance
to
nonprofits
and
businesses.
They
would
then
make
funding
recommendations
that
go
to
the
mayor
after
having
open
meetings
for
the
public
where
they
ask
questions.
The
mayor
has
a
separate
set
of
funding
recommendations,
so
both
funding
recommendations
go
to
the
council.
The
council
would
hold
a
public
hearing,
would
deliberate
and
then
make
the
final
funding
determinations.
M
And
it
it
could
sound
like
an
interminable
process,
but
it
it
it
does
not
have
to
be
long.
It
doesn't
have
to
take
a
long
time.
The
first
two
thirds
of
that
process
have
to
take
place
anyway.
So
the
question
is:
at
the
end:
do
you
want
it
to
come
through
the
mirror
to
you
so
that
you
can
have
a
public
hearing
and
a
vote
on
it,
or
are
you
comfortable
with
a
staff
committee
doing
that?
So
that's
that's!
L
L
So
not
all
non-profits
are
created
the
same
totally,
showing
my
background
here,
understanding
which,
which
elements
are
not
recovering
as
quickly
will
we
be
able
to
wait
in
rubrics
those
from
sectors
who
are
not
recovering
as
quickly
as
part
of
an
equity
consideration.
M
C
Marry
beth,
so
one
of
the
things
that
the
administration
has
talked
about
is
with
cairs.
We
had
to
spend
money
very
very
quickly
and
with
that
has
come
some
significant
hardship
for
the
finance
department,
specifically
over
the
last
three
weeks,
trying
to
come
up
with
invoices.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
just
we
have
done
is
we've
created
a
template
that
goes
down
and
creates
the
projects
pertaining
to
the
frf
guidelines
and
the
treasury
guidelines
that
we
have
to
report
up
to
because
federal.
M
Your
grant,
when
you
apply
for
grants
there
is
a
transparency
piece
that
comes
to
the
council,
but
when
you
allocate
grant
money
typically
that
would
come
to
the
council.
It
does
with
cdbg
hopwa
home.
You
know
all
of
those,
but
there
it's
up
to
you
how
much
you
delegate
in
terms
of
the
other
things
I
mean,
I
don't.
R
R
We
approve
it
and
the
system
is
ongoing,
and
I
see
this
something
similar
to
that
and
I'd
like
to
keep
the
approval
process
with
the
city
council
and
not
just
a
a
board
so
is,
is
that
am
I
reading
it
correctly?
This
would
be.
We
would
be
giving
the
board
the
authority
to
allocate
the
money
without
going
through
us.
R
P
Right
so
it
would
skip
the
final.
The
my
understanding
and
somebody
can
correct
me,
but
from
what
I'm
hearing
is,
this
would
essentially
skip
the
final
step
that
we
have
in
hopwa,
cdbg,
cip,
right
where
we
would
get
the
recommendation.
We'd
have
a
big
book
and
have
to
go
through
it
and
decide
yes
or
no
or
whatever.
It
would
skip
that
step.
It
would
delegate
it
to
this
ad
hoc
committee
or
some
other,
and
it
would
skip.
M
K
R
K
S
S
Right
right-
and
that's
my
I
know
it,
I
know
it
might
take
us
more
time,
but
it's
not
sometimes
it's
nice
to
hear
groups
when
we
do
cdbg
and
we
do
cap.
We
have
a
public
process
where
people
call
in
and
say
hey.
I
really
want
to
advocate
for
this
project
because
x,
y
and
z,
you
know
it
seems
like
this
is
also
it
could
be.
That
way.
I
would
like
to
go
that
way.
P
P
T
P
T
Gonna,
just
butt
in
by
walking
up
here,
just
just
to
be
clear.
I
don't
think
we've
tried
to
build
any
specific
process
that
would
cut
out
the
community.
This
really
we
were
trying
to
build
the
idea
of
the
grants
in
order
to
be
responsive
to
community
groups
who
have
been
coming
to
all
of
us.
I
think
saying
hey.
We
know
the
city
has
a
lot
of
rescue
plan
funds.
What
are
you
doing
with
them
and
how
do
we?
T
How
do
we
apply
so
we're
trying
to
be
responsive
to
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
money
out
into
the
community
sooner
than
later,
but
also
you
know
to
mary
beth's
point
into
all
of
your
points.
We
need
to
do
it
correctly
and
with
the
right
amount
of
oversight
and
community
input,
so
what
mary
beth
described
as
making
sure
that
first
we're
able
to
really
scope
this
in
a
way
that
is
that
fits
within
the
specific
federal
guidelines.
I
think,
really
narrows.
T
We
as
we've
worked
through
this
over
the
last
month,
or
so
since
we
first
submitted
the
proposal
or
idea
to
you.
We've
we've
talked
about
trying
to
get
an
internal
focus
group
together
of
staff
and
council
staff,
to
where
we
can
work
through
together.
What
the
process
would
be.
That
would
be,
you
know
comfortable
for
the
council
comfortable
for
the
administration
and
I
think,
try
to
accomplish
our
goals
that
way.
T
So
I
don't
know
if
the
city,
if,
if
we
just
kind
of
plug
and
play
into
the
cdcip
type
board
or
process,
I
have
heard
that
they
are.
They
are
pretty
loaded
with
with
work
as
it
is,
and
so
it
may
be
an
additional
burden
on
that
particular
board,
but
I'm
positive
that
we
can
do
something
that
would
involve
the
public.
The
the.
M
L
D
This
is
something
that
the
city
does
with
cip,
where
there's
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
minimum
the
the
city
also.
Does
it
based
on
hud's
recommendation
that
there's
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
minimum,
because
applying
and
administering
and
meeting
all
of
the
reporting
requirements
takes
time
and
money
in
and
of
itself,
so
there
there
is-
and
you
know
this
because
you
work
in
the
nonprofit
world
there.
There
is
a
certain
threshold
that
the
city
could
discuss
setting,
but
we
don't
have
that
set
now.
That
would
be
something
to
further
discuss.
P
Thank
you
any
other
comments
on
this
one
and.
K
Real
quick,
I
I
just
want
to
lump
I
I
would
put
item
d1
the
100k
from
the
edlf,
also
in
the
same
category.
The
delegation
discussion
that
we
just
had
that.
I
just
don't
think
we
know
enough
yet
to
be
able
to
delegate
it
appropriately.
M
One
question
that
I
was
just
asked
is
about
the
the
what
you
could
call
structural
deficit
or
the
ongoing
expenses
that
are
recommended
in
the
budget
opening
and
whether
the
council
could
receive
that
information
of
of
which
of
the
things
that
they're
being
asked
to
authorize,
have
an
ongoing
expense
just
so
that
it's
added
up
nope,
that
that
did.
I
say
that
clearly,
okay,
thanks.
P
Okay,
great,
I
think
that
is
all
we
have
on
this
agenda
item
for
today.
P
I
imagine
we
will
be
talking
about
this
next
week
as
well
at
least
part
of
it
all
right
budget
amendment
I
mean
budget
amendment.
I
saw
the
number
four
on
my
agenda
and
just
said
budget
moment
number
four,
but
really
we're
talking
about
an
alley
vacation
at
the
1200
block
of
kensington
and
bryan
avenue,
and
I
believe,
there's
brian
hi
brian.
We
have
brian
fulmer
from
the
one
of
our
council
office
policy
analysts
here
on
the
big
screen,
and
then
I
believe
we
have
nick
norris
and
aaron
barlow
from
planning
also
available
with
us.
G
C
1550
south
between
the
mcclellan
trail,
which
is
about
1200,
east
and
1300
east.
The
alley
is
impassable
due
to
a
garage
constructed
obstructing
access
at
the
east
end
and
there
are
other
encroachments
from
other
budding
properties
that
have
been
in
place
for
many
years.
If
the
alley
is
closed,
it
will
have
no
impact
on
the
mcclellan
trail.
That's
an
important
point
and
the
applicant,
I
believe,
is
available
to
answer
questions.
If
council
has
any
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
aaron.
K
It
seems
like
aaron's
having
some
technical
difficulties,
so
it
might
be
best
if
we,
that
was
a
pretty
good
description
of
the
proposal
and
the
issue
it
might
be.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
presentation,
it
shows
a
map
of
where
this
alley
is.
K
K
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please
there
is
one
there
you
go
so
this
north
is
to
the
top
of
the
screen.
You
can
kind
of
see
where
this
alley
would
go,
particularly
on
the
eastern
side
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
you
can
see
where
it's
blocked
and
there's
no
real
access,
and
then
you
can
see
that
there's
several
structures,
buildings
that
encroach
into
that
alleyway
next
slide.
K
Here's
an
image
from
1300v,
so
you
can
see
the
what's
blocking
the
alley
next
slide.
P
Great
thanks,
nick
council
members,
any
questions
on
this
dennis.
I.
K
Got
a
quick
one:
what
exactly
does
the
utility
easement
look
like
a
utility
easement
is
usually
just
a
description
of
a
width
and
authorizes
if
there's
existing
utilities
at
all,
it
basically
authorizes
access
to
all
those
utilities
if
there
isn't
already
something
in
place
and
authorizes
them
to
do
the
work,
mainly,
I
mean
just
like
when
there's
power
lines
behind
your
home.
K
You
know
the
power
company
has
a
right
to
go
through
your
property,
to
get
access
their
equipment
and
to
do
any
kind
of
service
or
upgrade
or
work,
so
they
would
just
have
to
come
through
the
front
gate
rather
than
through
the
alleyway
that
doesn't
that
there's
no
access
to
anyway
yeah
right
now.
That's
how
they
do
it
anyway,
because
there's
no
access
because
of
the
structures
blocking
thank.
S
Chair,
yes,
so
nick
with
this
rally
vacations,
I
forgot:
do
we
they
had
to
get
most
of
the
signatures
from
all
of
the
neighbors
correct
and
I'm
assuming
that
that's
happened
and
then
also
does
the
city
get
compensated
for
disposing
this
piece
of
land?
I
forgot.
P
Right,
thank
you.
Council
members,
any
other
questions.
Okay,
thanks!
Everyone!
Oh
wait.
I
have
a
question.
Did
we
have
any
feedback
from
the
community
members
in
the
area,
any
any
negative
feedback
from.
H
All
right,
I
can
jump
in
it
looks
like
aaron
might
be
having
still
some
issues,
but
no
the
only
questions
that
we
really
got
on
this
there.
I
think
there
was
a
bit
of
confusion,
thinking
that
the
the
vacation
was
going
to
impact
the.
P
P
Perfect,
I
don't
think
there
are
any
other
questions,
so
we
will
move
on
thanks.
Everyone
agenda
item
number
five
is
another
alley
vacation.
This
is
the
columbus
street
alley
north
of
victory
road
again,
we
have
brian
from
our
one
of
our
office
policy,
analysts,
nick
norris
and
david
gilner,
from
planning
so
nick
left
and
delegated
his
work.
C
Thank
you
now.
This
is
a
proposal
to
vacate
another
city-owned
alley,
it's
adjacent
to
properties
in
the
500
north
block
of
columbus
street
and
one
property
that
is
on
victory.
Road,
there's
another
alley
segment
to
the
north
of
this
one,
which
was
vacated
a
number
of
years
ago
and
the
southern
end
of
this
alley:
segment
abuts
a
u-dot
right-of-way,
as
I
mentioned
to
the
south,
the
alley
is
undeveloped
and
exists
only
on
paper.
C
B
Okay,
hopefully
my
audio
is
coming
through,
looks
like
it
okay.
So,
as
brian
mentioned,
this
is
a
vacation
for
a
plotted
segment
of
alley
about
150
feet.
Long
good
taylor
put
up
the
zoning
map
kind
of
shows
this
segment
it's
recorded,
but
it's
never
been
developed,
encompasses
approximately
2,
750
square
feet
of
area
and
at
about
five
properties
with
four
different
owners
and
all
of
them
signed
the
petition
to
have
this
vacated.
B
The
city
surveyor
looked
this
at
this.
It
had
an
odd
method
of
creation.
It
may
have
not
been
intended
to
be
an
alley.
It
was
part
of
a
slope
easement,
but
it
appears
on
some
of
our
flat
books
and
that
going
back
to
the
late
1800s
early
1900s
also
the
idea
that
it
might
have
been
dedicated
as
a
right-of-way
through
the
original
city
plating.
So
it
was
never
an
alley
per
se.
It
was
never
established
as
a
regular
alley.
The
zoning
is
mixed.
B
B
B
It'll
show
kind
of
its
steep
topography
coming
up
from
victory
road.
So,
even
if
the
alley
were
not
to
be
vacated,
it's
very
unlikely
that
it
ever
could
be
built
just
based
on
the
topography,
and
it
would
essentially
go
to
nowhere
since
there's
no
continuation.
P
Sorry,
council
members
any
questions
on
this.
P
With
that,
we
are
at
agenda
item
number
six,
which
is
a
rezone
at
redwood
road
in
indiana
avenue,
nick
you're.
Over
there
we
have
nick
tarbet
a
council
office
policy,
analyst
nick
norris
and
david
gelner
again
from
planning,
so
actually
nick
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
you.
C
F
F
B
Okay,
nick
introduced
the
the
basics
on
it,
so
current
zoning
is
r1
5000
single
family,
and
I
think
I
did
have
a
couple
slides
good
catch
up
with
that
current
zoning
is
our
1000
single
family
and
requested
change
to
rmu
residential
mixed
use.
45
feet
loud
combined
property
area
is
about
0.28
acres
or
12
000
square
feet.
B
The
applicant
has
indicated
they
want
to
develop
a
new
mixed
use
on
the
site
and
the
west
side.
Master
plan
is
not
being
changed
with
this
request,
as
this
was
identified
as
the
location
of
a
community
node
in
the
west
side
master
plan,
this
intersection
of
redwood
indiana
also.
B
This
is
also
within
the
nine
line
planning
area
in
a
geographic
focus
area
identified.
In
that
plan
we
looked
at
the
zoning
compatibility
with
adjacent
properties
and
the
cc
zoning
on
the
other
corner
would
allow
development
up
to
45
feet
in
height
by
right.
This
property,
if
it
were
rezoned
to
rmu
45,
could
not
exceed
the
45-foot
height
limit
as
it
backs
up
to
single-family
residential.
So
there's
no
process
to
exceed
that
45
feet
height
limit.
B
Also,
the
existing
alley
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
provide
some
additional
buffering
to
the
north
of
the
properties
that
are
across
the
alley.
And
again
we
looked
at
some
alternative
zoning
districts
and
this
one
encompasses
the
design
standards
and
things
that
would
help
mitigate
potential
future
uses
to
the
adjacent
residential
properties.
B
B
L
In
conjunction
with
this,
is
there
any
commitment
from
other
entities
in
the
city?
We
are
proposing
a
lot
of
density
potentially
for
this
intersection
and
it
is
woefully
unprepared
for
it,
including
school
children,
walking
home
without
protected
sidewalks
from
wallace
stegner
academy.
That
is
right
around
the
corner
there.
This
is
a
really
really
dangerous
area
for
us
to
add
density
without
committing
ourselves
to
an
infrastructure
overhaul
as
well.
P
K
My
biggest
argument
would
be
just
a
chicken
or
the
egg,
and
if
we
get
if
we
get
the
potential
for
more
people
in
there,
then
we
have
enough
impetus
to
be
able
to
push
forward
that
development
to
install
those
sidewalks
and
more
clear
crosswalks
across
redwood.
That
sort
of
thing.
So
I
think
this
could
be
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
P
Council
members
any
other
questions:
okay,
thanks
nick
and
david
with
that
man,
I
thought
we
were
gonna
be
behind
schedule,
but
we
are
ahead
of
it.
Good
work,
council
members.
We
are
scheduled
for
a
break
right
now,
so
we're
scheduled
to
come
back
at
oh,
no,
we're
scheduled
for
a
break
at
4
30..
A
P
P
Yes,
so
this
is
simply
as
very
well
laid
out.
The
remaining
items
as
of
today
of
budget
amendment
number
four
ben
them
into
adopt
and
hold
for
january,
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
have
given
throughout
these
discussions,
and
so,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I'm
interested
in
trying
to
hold
a
formal
vote
next
week,
next
council
meeting
december
14th,
and
so
I
wanted
to
give
this
to
people.
P
It
sounds
like
for
the
most
part,
we're
pretty
supportive
of
a
lot
of
these
programs
just
need
a
little
more
information,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
that
and
are
prepared
to
vote,
have
a
formal
vote
next
week.
Okay,
with
that,
I
will
turn
that
we
are
on
agenda
item
number
eight,
which
is
our
health
care,
innovation,
blueprint
presentation
and
we
have
allison
roland
one
of
our
council
office
policy.
P
Analysts
here
the
mayor
may
not
know
that
we're
back
from
break,
I'm
not
sure
we
have
ben
colander,
our
deputy
director,
director
of
economic
development.
I
don't
know
it
says:
deputy
clark,
cahoon
technology
and
innovation,
strategic
industry
advisor
and
are
one
of
my
favorite
people,
no
offense
to
everybody
else,
but
natalie
gauchner,
the
director
of
the
kem
c
gardner
policy
institute
so
natalie.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
Thank
you
all
of
you
for
joining
us.
P
C
C
This
briefing
is
informational
only
as
I
mentioned,
but
the
administration
has
asked
the
council
for
direction
and
next
steps
on
this
work,
so
I'm
sure
they'd
be
very
interested
in
what
you'd
have
what
you
have
to
say
and
then
just
because
I
am
a
budget
analyst
at
heart
I
and
up
really
all
the
way
through.
I
wanted.
P
P
P
One
two:
three:
okay!
Well,
let's
do
this,
I
think
who
are
you
planning
on
turning
it
over
to
next.
H
Clark:
okay,
can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
take
it
away?
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
Clark,
cahoon
focus
on
technology
and
entrepreneurship.
Initiatives
with
the
department
of
eco
with
the
economic
development
office
here
at
the
city
really
excited
to
share
this
with
you.
H
We've
been
working
with
an
advisory
board
on
shaping
how
we're
gonna
focus
our
economic
development
efforts
and
capture
the
momentum
that
the
healthcare
innovation
industry,
which
is
life
sciences
and
digital
health,
and
making
sure
that
it's
a
it's
a
human
focused,
a
people-centered
approach
to
economic
development
and
making
sure
that
opportunities
for
all
residents
of
the
city
can
see
themselves
with
the
with
the
growth.
H
Just
a
couple,
quick
things
right
off
the
bat
this
this
industry
has
sticky
jobs.
H
H
Another
component
to
this
is
there's
a
really
strong
pipeline
of
innovation
for
this
industry,
with
the
university
of
utah
and
the
way
that
they
commercialize
their
technologies,
and
it's
fast
growing.
It's
it's
the
fastest
growing
in
the
u.s
and
with
that,
it's
a
really
diverse
industry
as
well,
so
we're
known
for
medical
devices,
but
we
also
have
really
strong
diagnostic
and
a
growing
therapeutic
and
growing
digital
health
component,
and
all
of
these
things
are
kind
of
folding
together.
H
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
to
natalie
and
we're
going
to
go
over
the
the
blueprint,
the
actual
document
that's
outlining,
where
our
focus
our
our
attention
is
going
with
this
industry.
N
Thanks
so
much
clark,
you
give
me
the
thumbs
up
if
you're
hearing
me.
Okay,
perfect,
I
wonder
I
don't
know
if
it's
taylor
or
someone
else,
but
I
was
hoping
I
could
share
my
screen
up,
looks
like
taylor.
I
have
changed
the
presentation,
so
I
need
to
go
with
a
different
screen.
H
I'll
just
jump
in
while
we're
getting
those
up.
This
is
this
is
the
first
focus
we
have
on
mayor,
mendenhall's
tech,
lake
city
initiative,
so
wanting
to
focus
and
make
sure
that
we're
aligned
and
capturing
the
opportunities
that
are
happening
with
a
really
fast
growing
technology
sector
within
the
state
and
making
sure
that
we're
harnessing
that.
But
having
it
be
a
really
people
focused
approach
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
throw
that
in
there.
N
Very
good
thanks
clark,
all
right
so
clark,
you're
now
seeing
my
slide
deck.
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
very
good?
N
Thanks
so
much
for
welcoming
me
to
the
councilwork
session
today,
natalie
gaulkner,
I
direct
the
kemp
c
gardner
policy
institute
thanks
chair
fowler
for
the
kind
words
and
my
purpose
today
is
to
just
walk
you
through
some
very
exciting
work
that
we've
been
doing
with
salt
lake
city
with
ben
and
the
mayor's
team,
and
what
I
want
to
do
is
first
just
kind
of
set
some
context
for
you,
and
you
know
my
trainings
in
economics.
N
So
I
think
about
economics,
as
we
think
about
an
economic
strategy
like
this,
and
you
know
all
economies
function
in
some
sort
of
global
national,
regional
neighborhood
context
and
for
salt
lake
city.
The
context
is
this:
you
know:
salt
lake
city
is
the
economic
heart
of
the
state.
It
has
a
large
and
diverse
economy.
N
It's
where
everything
comes
together:
the
seat
of
government
transportation
hub
the
legal
and
financial
center
center
for
arts
and
culture
also,
certainly
the
economic
center
and
as
as
you
as
you
think,
about
that,
it
becomes
really
a
focus
when
you're
doing
an
economic
development
strategy
for
salt
lake
city.
Where
do
you
focus?
N
N
So
just
thinking
a
little
bit
more
about
the
economics
of
it
and
clark
mentioned
this
a
little
bit,
but
I
like
to
think
of
the
I'm
going
to
focus
here
on
life
sciences,
because
it's
like
such
a
large
share
of
healthcare
innovation.
But
if
you
think
of
the
life
sciences
industry,
it's
large,
it's
rapidly
growing.
N
N
So
there's
the
top
five
states
listed
here,
but
you
can
see
that
utah's
at
the
top
clark
mentioned
that
it's
rapidly
growing.
He
quoted
that
it's
the
fastest
growing.
It
actually
is
over
one
year
the
most
recent
year.
N
And
if
you
look
at
this,
you
can
see
how
rapidly
growing
life
sciences
is,
but
you
can
also
see
how,
through
two
very
serious
serious
economic
downturns,
it
continued
to
create
opportunity
and
to
grow,
and
so
it
becomes,
I
hate
to
say,
recession,
proof,
but
it's
probably
as
close
to
that
as
we
have
so
this
large
growing,
centralized
and
stable
industry
presents
all
sorts
of
opportunities
and
what
the
gardner
institute
did
is
working
with
the
city.
N
We
worked
this
idea
the
idea
of
a
blueprint
for
a
healthcare
innovation
industry.
We
worked
it
through
something.
We
call
the
informed
decisions
process
at
the
gardner
institute.
Now,
that's
a
that's
a
term
of
art
that
we
use
to
represent.
We
get
guidance
from
community
leaders.
We
take
a
multi-disciplinary
team
with
a
lot
of
voices.
N
We
have
structured
meetings,
we
have
a
very
clear
scope,
admission,
we're
very
data
informed
and
through
that
we
come
up
with
some
some
good
ideas
and
in
this
case
we're
just
sharing
with
you,
basically
an
update
or
a
level
setting
keeping
you
in
the
loop
of
where
this
is
going
through
the
mayor's
office.
N
So
you
can
see
this
advisory
group
lots
of
industry
representatives,
the
multicultural
community
representative
represented
you
can
see
council
member
dugan
there
who
attended
a
meeting
or
two,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
the
way
that
we
structured
this
and
the
way
we
tried
to
get
feedback.
N
This
group,
you
know
all
good
efforts,
are
begin
with
vision,
and
this
is
the
vision
that
we've
put
into
words
I'll.
Let
you
just
kind
of
read
that
there,
but
we're
basically
saying
that
the
capital
city
will
be
a
premier
or
best-in-class
a
healthcare
innovation
hub.
N
When
you
see
innovation,
there
think
of
a
a
place
where
you
create
value
a
hub
where
it's
centered
and
that
in
doing
this,
we're
going
to
provide
expanded,
not
just
economic
opportunities,
so
not
just
jobs,
but
also
in
the
in
the
category
of
getting
a
twofer,
improved
health
and
well-being
for
all
residents
and
I'll
just
emphasize
this
all
there.
So
that's
a
very
important
part
of
where
this
is
headed
and
that's
so
to
lead
something
like
this.
You
have
to
think.
Where
are
we
headed?
That's
the
vision
in
the
process.
N
It
became
really
clear
that
there
were
some
opportunities
and
challenges
and
in
economic
development
work
it's
very
common
to
talk
about
physical
capital,
I
think
of
infrastructure
when
I
say
that
financial
capital,
you
know,
I
just
think
of
having
the
means,
the
ability
to
invest
intellectual
capital,
I
think
of
human
talent,
and
it's
very
common
to
put
those
three
together,
but
for
this
process
with
an
interest
in
being
inclusive,
equitable
growth,
taking
a
global
perspective,
leveraging
existing
assets
being
very
collaborative
we've
added
this
circle
of
human
and
social
capital.
N
So,
as
I
walk
through
now,
what
I'm
going
to
walk
through
is
basically
the
four
pillars
or
recommendations
that
the
advisory
group
came
up
with
and
they
fall
into
the
categories
of
storytelling,
so
branding
promoting
and
growing
increasing
investment
so
finding
ways
to
invest
more
pathways
and
partnerships.
N
We
can
do
more
together
and
then
strengthening
the
foundation
and
removing
barriers
and
I'll
walk
through
each
of
these
one
by
one
so
in
the
brand,
promote
and
grow.
Of
course,
tech
lake
city
helps
with
that.
We've
got
an
umbrella
to
think
about,
but
you've
also
got
to
tell
your
story
and
build
a
global
brand.
I
think
that
biohive
bio
utah
lots
of
great
partners
to
help
in
this,
but
basically
you
need
to
maintain
and
grow
salt
lake
city's
reputation
as
a
healthcare
innovation
center.
N
N
I
will
also
just
mention
that
the
university
of
utah
can
help
significantly
here.
Clark
mentioned
it,
but
the
university
of
utah,
of
course,
is
a
member
of
the
american
association
of
research.
Universities
as
a
pac-12
university,
as
our
flagship
institution
and-
and
you
know
located
here
in
the
capital
city-
can
do
a
lot
to
help
there.
N
The
second
pillar
is
this:
increase
investment
here,
we're
talking
about
industry
partnerships
again
university
can
help
there
with
our
pivot
center
capitalizing
on
private
capital
and
social
impact.
Investments
here
are
stature
nationally
as
a
place
where
there
are
a
lot
of
industrial
loan
corporations
and
community
reinvestment
act
funds.
N
N
The
third
recommendation
is
to
emphasize
pathways
and
partnerships,
and
here
we're
really
talking
significantly
about
education,
investing
in
human
talent
and
minimizing
the
friction
from
getting
someone
from
their
training
to
their
job.
That's
connecting
these
pathways
and
I
think
the
stem
action
center,
the
talent
ready
pathways,
maybe
keeping
an
open
mind
about
new
ways
to
innovate
and
reinvent.
You
know,
post-secondary
education
to
be
helpful
here.
N
N
N
We
have
to
think
about
reducing
business
barrier
barriers,
that's
code
for
regulation
and
zoning,
inventory,
r
d
opportunities.
Think
of
the
point,
the
prison
location
and
some
of
those
natural
partnerships
that
will
come
as
the
state
invests
heavily
in
a
research
center.
If
you
will,
at
the
point
of
the
mountain
and
some
of
the
cross-pollination
that
concur
with
the
city
and
then
certainly
when
you're
reducing
barriers,
you've
got
to
have
a
real
estate
plan
to
make
it
all
happen.
N
So
this
is
the
blueprint
that
we've
prepared
for
the
city.
I
think
the
point
here
now
is
that
this
is
just
really
an
update.
Keeping
you
in
the
loop
there's
lots
more
to
happen,
but
it's
really
been
a
privilege
for
the
gardner
institute
to
collaborate
with
this,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
the
time
back
over
to
chair
fowler
for
questions
unless
clark.
You
want
me
to
pass
it
to
you.
H
I'll
just
say
a
couple,
quick
things
and
thank
you
so
much
natalie
for
for
that
presentation.
The
the
focus
of
this
blueprint
is
is
really
public
and
private
partnerships
and
making
sure
that
we
can
leverage
that
momentum
to
our
largest.
H
You
know
strongest
capabilities
and
it's
it's
when
we
collaborate
and
work
with
other
organizations
and
groups,
we
kind
of
reimagine,
you
know
what
can
be
done
and
the
connectivity
that
that
could
be
even
stronger
and
greater,
and
so,
when
we
start
thinking
about
the
education
and
the
workforce,
development
components
and
tying
in
the
university
of
utah
salt
lake
community
college,
working
with
the
salt
lake
school
district
and
making
sure
that
this
momentum
in
this
industry
is
aligning
with
the
needs
of
our
residents
and
making
sure
that
every
single
resident
can
see
and
understand
the
opportunity.
H
It
gets
me
really
excited
and
it
pumps
me
up
knowing
knowing
that
we're
creating
that
web
and
we're
we're
working
towards
the
right
things.
And
so
thanks
for
that
presentation
and
really
the
advisory
board
is
what
made
this
all
come
together
with
the
direction
of
the
kmc
gardner
policy
institute.
So
I
know
we're
open
for
questions
and
happy
to
answer
any
of
those
between
myself
and
natalie
and
ben
colander.
P
P
Okay,
council
members?
Are
there
any
questions.
P
I'll
start,
I
have
a
couple.
I
was
looking
at
the
list
of
people
that
were
like
on
the
advisory
board.
I
guess
we
could
call
it
and
was
curious
if
there
was
any
any
input
from
the
business
advisory
board.
As
far
as
reviewing
the
outcome
of
this
or
being
participants.
P
H
We're
actually
meeting
with
that
tomorrow
and
there
has
been
a
lot
of
connectivity
with
our
office
and
with
them
not
so
much
with
the
process
where
we've
gone
to
right
now,
but
right
now
is
is
where
we're
still
gaining
feedback.
This
is
still
in
you
know
not
the
final
form.
It's
really
close
to
it,
but
yeah
the
business
advisory
board
is
really
important
and
we're
looking
forward
to
that
meeting
tomorrow
to
coincide
with
this.
P
Oh
that's
great
and
then
what
sort
of
actions
does
the
administration
plan
on
doing
next
or
what?
What
are
the
next
steps
for
the
administration.
C
I
can
chime
in
on
this
council
chair
fowler
in
in
the
big
picture.
The
main
purpose
of
this
blueprint
was
to
convene
industry
and
partners
to
get
feedback
about
this
industry
that
we've
looked
into,
so
that
was
something
within
tech,
lake
city.
That
was
a
specific
action
item.
The
administration
was
interested
in
doing
after
this.
C
S
Anna,
so
it
almost
seems
like
it's
almost
like
you
when
you
are
in
a
business
like
you're,
offering
a
new
product
right
and
then
you're,
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
offer
this
we're
going
to
do
all
the
branding
and
all
the
marketing
that
we
can
do
to
push
this
product.
But
we
also
need
to
invest
in
this
product
and
that's
a
shift
in
economic
development
that
we
haven't
done
before.
I
don't
think
like
we
haven't
focused
that
much.
S
We
focused
a
couple
years
ago
with
the
small
businesses,
as
ben
put
together
his
department
and
really
beefed
up
the
staffing
and
the
time
that
they
spent
doing
this.
This
relationship
building
within
with
a
small
businesses
and
then
a
pandemic
hit
and
all
that
stuff,
but
but
now
we're.
But
now
we
are
looking
at
a
different
way
of
doing
businesses
or
a
new
way
for
economic
development,
for
the
city
to
focus
on
and
that
will
ultimately
benefit.
S
You
know
our
bottom
line
in
terms
of
budget,
but
we
also
need
to
figure
out
what
else
can
we
offer
this?
This
new
industry,
as
we
compete
with
other
counties
right
for
their
for
them
to
to
be
located.
So
you
know
the
I
think,
like
the
low
hanging
fruit
is
the
regulatory
part
that
we
all
know
that
ben
mentioned
that
the
things
we
can
do,
that's
something
that
we
have
the
power
on,
but
we
also
need
to
to
look
a
little
bit
deeper.
S
So
I'm
excited
to
listen
to
what
ben
has
to
offer
on
that,
and
then
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
connection
between
the
sorensen
idea
that
the
mayor
proposed
with
with
education,
investment
and
this
like
in
terms
of
workforce.
C
H
And
and
also
to
add
to
that,
we've
been
working
with
the
salt
lake
school
district,
the
the
foundation
in
making
sure
that
those
connections
between
industry
and
the
students
and
parents
and
understanding
kind
of
what's
connected
there.
So
we're
not
just
we
haven't
just
gone
through
this
process
of
convening
this
board
and
getting
feedback
and
creating
this.
This
blueprint
and
kind
of
sitting
on
our
hands
we're.
H
Actually
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
kind
of
in
motion
that
were
that
were
developing
relationships
and
partnerships
with,
and
it's
going
to
be
really
fun
and
interesting
to
to
get
the
momentum
from
this
industry
and
and
make
those
connections
even
further,
specifically
on
the
education,
stem
related
and
the
workforce.
Components,
because
there's
a
real
there's,
a
need
that
that
companies
have
and
there's
a
need
that
our
education
partners
have
as
well
and
so
we're
helping
bridge
that
gap
and
and
tie
those
things
together.
P
I
We
talked
about
earlier
that
are
hopefully
going
to
go
to
economic
development
for
grant
money
to
help
connect
salt
lake
city
residents,
who
need
to
have
better
access
to
the
economic
strength
that
our
capital
city
and
our
state
are
experiencing,
but
is
not
reaching
the
historic
neighborhoods
that
have
never
really
had
great
access
to
it
and
there's
I'm
hopeful
that
they're
going
to
be
applying
biohive
with
the
healthcare
innovation
sector
and
groups,
community-based
organizations,
potentially
ones
like
we
worked
with
through
the
salt
laker
card
who
are
connected
to
those
community
members
to
do
recruitment
and
support.
I
Some
of
these
businesses
that
are
already
here
in
salt
lake
city
are
so
desperate
for
workforce
that
they're
going
into
they're
walking
into
businesses
like
nail,
lab
nail,
salons
and
hiring
technicians
who
have
dexterity
and
could
be
building
the
healthcare
innovation
materials
that
they
need.
So
anyway,
there's
they're
going
out
there
and
they're
figuring
out
already
how
the
healthcare
innovation
can
fill
in
the
workforce
needs
that
they
need.
I
N
Okay,
yep,
okay,
sorry,
the
camera
goes
off,
so
you
can't
tell,
but
I
I
you
can
tell
I
put
up
the
recommendation
screen
again
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
council
member
valdo
morris
is
right
in
the
sense
that
you
have
to
all
of
this
has
to
work
together
right
and
if
you
do
any
one
of
these
in
isolation,
it's
not
as
powerful,
and
I
just
wanted
to
really
double
down
on
that
point-
that
as
you
brand
and
storytell,
and
invest
and
remove
barriers
and
and
align
education
with
it.
P
And
I
just
want
to
say
I
you
know
I
appreciate
was
something
that
madame
mayer
said
and
that
we
want
salt
lake
city
residents
to
to
benefit
from
this.
We
want
people
to
live,
work
and
play
here.
P
So
I
would
hope-
and
I
imagine
that
as
we're
looking
at
this
and
as
this
is
developing,
we're
also
looking
at
how,
at
the
other,
very
important
presentation
that
natalie
has
given
us,
and
that
is
on
housing
and
the
affordability
and
attainability
of
housing,
and
that
we
want
salt
lake
city
residents
to
be
here
and
we
can
bring
jobs
in.
We
can
bring
these
innovative
ideas
in
and
we
need
to
overlay
that
with.
How
do
we
keep
them
to
stay
here
and
live
here
right?
P
And
so
I
just
I,
I
know
how
important
housing
and
keeping
people
in
salt
lake
city
is
to
all
of
you.
So
I
think,
as
we
continue
going
forward
with
this
and
having
these
discussions,
that
that
is
sort
of
one
of
those
other,
maybe
removing
the
barrier
sub
point
there
right
is
really
removing
the
barrier
of
living
in
salt
lake
city,
and
so
I
think
that
can
be
an
interesting
conversation.
Look
forward
to
that.
P
If
there's
nothing
else
on
this,
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
natalie.
I
really
appreciate
it
always
appreciate
the
work
that
you
and
your
team
do
so
with
that
we
will
move
on
thanks.
So
much.
P
We
are
council
members,
we
are
on
agenda
item
number
nine,
which
is
the
city
consent
to
subleases
at
the
leonardo.
For
this
presentation
we
have
ben
ludke,
one
of
our
council
office
policy
analysts.
P
We
have
kimberly
citrus,
our
senior
city
attorney
and
then
blake
thomas,
the
can
director
timmy
hunsaker,
the
deputy
director
of
community
services,
and
I
believe
we
have
some
people
from
the
leonardo
here
that
are
available
for
any
questions
that
we
may
have.
So
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
you,
ben.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
the
first
briefing
on
this
topic,
and
the
council
also
has
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
this
evening
and
potential
action
next
tuesday
december
14th.
So
property
management
is
typically
an
administrative
function.
It's
not
something!
That's
on
the
legislative
branch
of
separation
of
powers.
P
D
D
D
D
D
The
leonardo's
mission
is
exploring
and
connecting
art,
culture
and
science
in
imaginative
ways
to
enrich
people's
lives,
expand
consciousness
and
enhance
the
community.
I
won't
go
into
the
programming
plan.
If
you
have
questions
on
that
front,
I
would
defer
to
the
executive
director
of
the
leonardo,
who
I
believe
is
sitting
behind
me.
D
There
is
a
resolution
for
the
council
to
authorize
the
mayor's
administration
to
approve
any
subleases
at
the
leonardo
as
long
as
it
fulfills
those
three
requirements.
I
talked
about
the
state
law,
public
purpose,
the
voter
approved
bond
purpose,
and
it
has
to
relate
directly
to
the
leonardo's
mission
in
programming.
D
It's
important
to
note
that
any
sublease
would
not
change
the
primary
lease
between
the
city
and
the
leonardo,
so
whatever
subleases
may
happen
over
future
years,
they
do
not
change
the
terms
of
that
primary
lease,
there's
a
copy
of
the
primary
lease
in
the
transmittal
and
in
your
packet
today
there
is
also
a
draft
sublease
agreement
and
a
public
benefits
analysis
specific
to
ken
sanders.
Rare
books,
there's
four
policy
questions.
If
the
council
is
interested,
the
first
is
you
may
wish
to
discuss
if
you
support
this
delegating
authority
approach.
D
D
P
Thank
you
ben
quick
question.
When
is
the
bond
supposed
to
be
paid
off.
P
P
R
S
Anna,
I
I
would
like
more
information
about
the
long-term
plan
like
a
little
bit
more
clearly
on,
what's
going
on
with
it
with
the
leonardo
in
general,
so
that
ken
sanders
can
start
with
like
a
fresh
understanding
of
what's
going
on
with
that
building
and
the
agreement
that
we
have
with
leonardo,
like
the
city
in
the
leonardo
and
then
ken
sanders
moving
in.
S
So
it's
as
clear
as
possible
of
what
is
going
on
and
what
can
happen
in
the
future
so
that
you
know
you,
don't
you
don't
get
into
you
know
all
of
a
sudden
you're.
You
know
whoever
leases
it
and
you,
you
know
news
at
least
get
gets
into
this
sublease
and
then
not
knowing
that
x,
y
and
z.
You
know
needed
to
happen
or
will
happen,
and
now
maybe
it's
not
a
good
idea
to
be
there.
S
So
so
I
I
would
like
more
information,
but
I
think
you
know
somebody's
saying
for
those
purposes
that
you
mentioned
great
stuff.
D
I
have
a
little
bit
of
information
I
can
share,
but
I
would
also
defer
if
anyone
from
public
services,
which
has
the
facilities
division,
which
would
be
in
charge
of
city-owned
property
like
this,
as
well
as
the
executive
director
of
the
leonardo,
since
the
responsibilities
for
the
building
are
split
between
the
leonardo
as
the
tenant
and
the
city
as
the
owner,
each
would
have
a
say
in
some
of
those
long-term
plans.
D
D
D
They
estimated
that
there
was
four
million
dollars
of
deferred
maintenance
and
improvement
needs
at
the
building,
and
this
was
across
several
categories
from
improved
efficiency
to
aesthetics,
to
some
life
safety
issues.
So
I
I
don't
have
that
breakdown,
but
it's
details.
We
could
request
and
I'm
guessing
that
there's
probably
an
updated
number,
since
my
information
is
from
2020.
C
So
the
there
have
been
some
recent
health
safety
welfare
improvements
to
the
building.
The
leonardo
is
materially
in
compliance
with
their
lease,
as
outlined
in
the
packet.
The
primary
lease
originally
is
for
a
20-year
term
was
executed
in
2009.
C
That
term
was
triggered
when
the
substantial
improvements
were
in
place.
So
I
don't
have
the
exact
date
in
front
of
me,
but
the
original
term
expires
in
or
around
2029,
and
then
the
leonardo
does
have
options
through
the
primary
lease
for
10-year
extensions.
So,
from
the
city's
perspective,
the
leonardo
is
in
compliance.
P
Q
Yes,
I'm
lisa
davis,
and
I
am
the
board
chair
for
the
leonardo,
and
I
also
worked
with
the
leonardo
from
the
time
it
was
going
through
the
bond
campaign
all
the
way
through
in
in
some
some
capacity
or
another
and
came
back
a
few
years
ago
to
serve
on
the
board.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
history
as
well,
so
to
your
questions,
councilwoman.
Q
What
I
can
tell
you
about
is
is
our
our
partnership
and
what
we
have
planned
to
do
together
and
what
we've
already
practiced
together.
I,
as,
as
you
probably
know
ken
opened
a
pop-up
location
in
the
leonardo
back
in
february,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
practice
our
relationship,
which
has
been
really
great
because
we've
got
to
learn
how
to
live
together.
We've
got
to
answer
a
lot
of
questions.
We've
got
to
practice,
doing
joint
programming
together
and
we
are
more
sure
than
ever
that
this
is
a
fabulous
and
really
ideal
partnership.
Q
Q
I
mean
you
can
imagine
the
context
that
ken
has
not
just
here
in
the
city
or
even
in
the
country,
but
internationally
of
authors
and
artists
that
he
can
bring
in.
We
have
a
wonderful
auditorium
that
we
want
to
get
more
use
out
of,
and
I
know
that
that's
been
something
the
council
and
the
mayor
has
asked
us-
is
how
to
make
better
and
bigger
use
of
the
building.
This
is
one
way
that
we
are
answering
that
request
and
doing
that
we
are
talking.
Q
Immersive
experiences,
so
ken
and
alex
have
been
talking
about
doing
something
with
authors
and
photography
and
film
of
utah,
and
so
there's
just
so
much
that
we
can
do
together
everything
from
something
as
small
as
having
can
curate
book
collections
for
the
exhibits
and
programs,
whether
it's
a
program
that
we're
doing
on
the
weekend
with
artist
in
mexico
or
the
flight
exhibit
we
can
make
that
content
really
fresh
and
really
exciting
for
our
visitors.
Q
Q
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
could
be
more
exciting
for
a
child
or
a
teenager
for
that
matter,
and
so
the
programming
is
also
multi-generational
and
multicultural
in
nature
and,
like
I
said,
we've
been
able
to
practice
via
this
pop-up
location
and
we're
really
excited
and
hopeful
that
this
body
will
agree
that
this
not
only
brings
great
value
to
our
city.
It
strengthens
both
of
our
organizations
and
it
enhances
our
ability
as
a
leonardo
to
fulfill
our
mission.
C
Really
quick,
I
failed
to
introduce
myself
for
the
public
record.
Tammy
hunsaker,
deputy
director
of
community
and
neighborhoods,
and
one
additional
thing
to
add
is
that
the
administration
recommends
for
full
transparency
that
a
public
hearing
be
scheduled
and
held
to
determine
or
get
input
on
whether
the
sublease
would
fulfill
those
public
purposes
that
been
outlined,
and
that
is
scheduled
for
the
formal
meeting.
P
Thank
you,
and
so
I
do
have
a
question.
This
might
go
towards
all
three
lovely
women
that
are
on
the
panel,
both
tammy
kimberly
and
lisa,
but
I'm
sort
of
thinking
about
this.
The
delegation
question
here
the
delegation
of
authority
for
this-
and
I
mean
this
sort
of
has
been
a
conversation
or
a
topic
of
conversation
kind
of
throughout
the
day-to-day
in
in
various
different
realms
and
I'm
curious
as
to
like.
P
If
we
were
to
say
yes
we're
going
to
delegate
this
this
authority
and-
and
you
can,
you
know
the
board
can
decide
if
this
is
the
right
fit
we're
not
what
other
types
of
of
businesses
or
or
partners
would
the
leonardo
be
looking
for
or
wanting.
If
there
were
other
pieces
of
the
leonardo
that
could
be
sublet.
Q
Oh,
we
always
look
at
it
as
mission
first,
so
it
needs
to
be
complementary
and
not
just
complementary,
but
we
have
to
be
able
to
it
has
to
enhance
our
mission,
and
we
also
have
to
be
able
to
enhance
the
mission
of
the
partner
because
we
feel
like
these
need
to
be
really
complementary
and
mutually
beneficial
partnerships
for
it
to
make
sense
and
for
them
to
be
enduring
and
healthy,
and
so
the
first
thing
that
we
do
as
a
board
when
we
look
at
new
partnerships
is
a
mission
match
period,
so
we
would
not
partner,
even
if
it's
bringing
in
an
exhibit
or
doing
an
event
as
as
the
leonardo,
that
we
always
do
a
partner
a
mission
match.
C
C
So
it's
it's
not
our
expectation
that
there
would
be
a
lot
of
subleases,
okay,
that
there
should
be
a
lot
more
subleases
coming.
C
Ken
will
occupy
a
significant
amount,
as
do
we,
so
I
don't
think
we
expect
this
to
be
a
an
ongoing
effort
to
bring
more
and
more
sublease
lessees
onto
into
the
leonardo.
O
This
is
really
unique
because
the
leonardo's
lease
is
in
place,
but
there
are
the
bonds
that
have
the
public
purpose
and
that
made
it
so
this
public
benefits
analysis
was
necessary
for
a
sublease.
Even
though
typically,
as
was
has
been
mentioned
today,
a
sublease
would
be
an
administrative
function,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
That's
really
what
makes
this
unique
and
it
probably
makes
sense
to
do
it
on
a
from
a
broader
perspective.
As
long
as
the
three
topics
are
met
as
ben
mentioned,
because
it
really
is
it's
it's
an
atypical
public
benefits.
P
So
again-
and
we
can
get
to
sort
of
that
analysis,
but
if
we
have
to
do
a
public
benefits
analysis,
I'm
just
go.
I'm
just
looking
into
the
the
glass
ball
and
asking
questions
right
like
if,
if
there
was
another
sub
leasi
for
this
space,
we-
and
we
were
still
under
the
constraints
of
the
bond-
then-
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
that
have
to
come
to
the
council
anyway.
To
do
this,
public
benefits
analysis.
P
C
L
Q
There
and
they've
had
a
record
now
of
about
a
year
and
a
half
a
very
healthy
financial
performance
that
is
only
improving
with
time
and
also
a
really
healthy
forecast,
and
I
you
know,
as
someone
who
was
here
from
the
very
beginning
and
knew
that
this
was
a
great
experiment
by
all
of
us.
This
was
not
something
the
city
had
ever
done.
S
One
more
then,
I
think
we
talked.
I
think
I
had
that
question
before,
but
I
don't
remember
what's
up
with
what's
the
status
with
the
utilities?
Was
there
anything
outstanding
that
we
also
had
to
like
house
some
housekeeping
between
our
agreement
with
leonardo.
S
S
T
I
C
Yeah
last
april
we
paid
all
the
back
utilities
and
since
then,
we've
been
current
every
month,
so
awesome.
P
E
I
don't
want
to
waste
the
council's
time,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
it
to
readers.
Readers
digest
form
I've,
I'm
ken
sanders.
E
I
left
the
cosmic
airplane
at
the
time,
the
store
through
its
gift
shop,
its
record
shop,
its
head
shop
and
the
bookstore.
We
were
grossing
1.4
million
dollars
in
1981..
E
E
You
guys
know
far
better
than
I
do
the
the
challenges
that
we've
been
facing,
especially
us
in
salt
lake
we've
all
been
through
the
coven,
but
gosh
we
get
a
bonus
earthquake
and
a
tornado
that
took
all
our
trees
down.
I
can't
imagine
just
running
my
tiny
little
bookstore
part
of
it
even
compared
to
to
the
leo
is
like
I
realize
just
how
small
I
am
in
the
universe.
E
Over
those
45
46
years,
I've
created
hundreds,
thousands
of
poetry,
readings,
author
readings,
artists,
debuts
and
readings.
Curated
entire
shows,
like
the
salt
lake
60s,
show
up
at
the
art
barn.
It
was
some
30
years
ago
now
shows
that
hundreds
and
hundreds,
if
not
a
thousand,
we
at
at
the
city
library,
for
the
50th
50th
anniversary
of
allen,
ginsberg's
howl,
we
had
over
1
000
people
come
to
that
event
that
the
auditorium
overflowed
the
overflow
rooms
overflowed.
It
was
just
mania
and
I
I
really
enjoy
doing
that
sort
of
controlled
chaos.
E
If
you
will,
we've
we've
tried
to
reach
out
to
to
bring
in
controversial
people,
writers
and
authors
and
artists
and
and
speakers,
and
sometimes
you
you
fail,
but
you
have
to
try
things
to
do
right
now
and
lisa
and
alex
don't
even
know
this
graham
nash
of
crosby,
stills
nash
and
young,
who
we're
not
friends,
but
I,
but
I
know
him
and
he's
just
issued
a
brand
new
photography
book.
E
E
E
I
just
turned
70
years
old,
but
I
want
to
reinvent
myself
one
last
time
and
with
the
help
of
these
women
and
the
staff
at
the
leonardo,
when
when
we
opened
it
was
with
the
the
thrift
shop,
the
thrift
show
the
thrift
store
show
that,
through
accumulated
dietrich,
donated
to
a
thrift,
store
and
curated
into
a
show
that
shows
us
what
racism
and
white
privilege
really
is
and
man.
I
can't
tell
you
how
badly
us
white
people,
especially
me
who've,
thought
myself
as
a
liberal
person.
E
My
whole
life
needs
that
experience,
and
we
echo
that
we
can.
We
brought
in
the
largest
works
on
african-american
artists
and
culture
and
science
and
literature
that
has
ever
been
in
one
place
in
this
city,
and
I
just
want
to
keep
doing
that
sort
of
thing.
We're
do
we're
trying
to
do
the
same
with
the
mode
moneta
kadinsky
exhibit
that's
going
on
right
now
and
we're
just.
We
hope
to
be
able
to
build
up
and
do
many
many
shows
there.
E
I'm
planning
one
with
alex
right
now
that
will
depict
the
the
what
we
call
the
trans-mississippi
west
through
maps
and
we're
going
to
interpret
the
whole
experience
of
who
was
here.
First,
who
came
later,
what
this
place
was
when
the
mormon
pioneers
came
here,
what
contributions
all
of
the
different
ethnic
cultures,
including
the
mormons?
You
cannot
tell
the
history
of
the
american
west
without
telling
the
story
of
the
mormon
people,
it's
as
important
as
anyone
else's
story,
and
so
we
we
want
to
be
inclusive.
E
Only
a
tiny
part
of
my
footprint
will
be
on
the
main
floor.
The
rest
of
it
will
all
be
hidden
in
the
basement
and
the
sub
basement.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
challenges,
but
we
can.
We
can
use
the
the
the
200
seat
theater
upstairs
we
have
bigger.
We
bring
in
somebody
like
terry
tempest
williams,
she's,
going
to
draw
a
huge
crowd.
She'll
fill
that
theater
and
a
heartbeat,
and
I
I
won't.
I
just
I'm
really
glad
if
this
opportunity
can
come
to
pass.
E
I'm
willing
to
give
one
more
try
the
alternative.
You
guys
keep
giving
all
the
rda
and
all
these
building
permits
so
12
to
15
stores
stories
to
the
north
of
me.
10
story
parking
building
behind
me,
31
stories
across
the
street
from
me
and
who
knows
what
the
ivory
company
has
planned
for
mine
in
the
green
ants
block
we
we've
been
given
until
january
of
22,
so
got
a
yearish,
and
if
I
don't
do
this,
I
mean
given
I'm
too
old.
E
Even
if
the
bank
would
loan
me
a
couple
of
million
dollars,
I'm
too
old
to
to
go
into
that
kind
of
debt.
Anymore
and
it's
not
anyone's
fault,
but
have
you
tried
to
price
rentals
or
buying
houses
or
renting
business
property?
45
dollars
a
square
foot
yeah
I'll
just
fade
off
into
the
sunset.
Otherwise.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
P
Thank
you,
mr
sanders.
Any
questions,
council
members,
any
questions.
P
Mr
sanders,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
the
salt
lake
city
community,
for
as
long
as
you
have,
and
for
sticking
with
us,
I
think
that
you
have
been
a
pillar
of
our
community
and
we
continue
generations
upon
generations,
know
of
you
and
your
bookstore,
and
so
we
do
appreciate
you
being
here
and
the
work
that
you
have
put
in
and
the
vibrancy
that
you
have
brought
to
salt
lake
city.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
thank
you.
Councilwoman.
P
P
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
We
are
going
to
have
just
one
clarification
from
katie.
Sorry
katie,
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot
regarding
the
the
delegation
of
authority
and
I
think
they're
there's
a
little
so
katie,
I'm
going
to
just
turn
it
over
to
you.
O
O
P
Great,
thank
you,
katie
council
members,
any
further
questions
on
this
okay.
Well,
we
are
set
for
action
on
this
in
on
december
14th
and
there
is
a
public
hearing
on
this
tonight
right,
okey,
doke,
thanks
everyone,
okay,
council
members.
We
are
on
to
the
report
of
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair,
mr
vice
chair,.
P
M
M
Okay,
so
you're
here
on
both
nights
anyway,
then
march,
the
national
league
of
cities
conference
is
held
the
14th
through
16th.
We
would
naturally
have
a
work
session
on
the
15th
in
the
case
of
the
national
league
conference.
There's
usually
enough
interest
in
that
that
we
scoot
the
council
meeting,
and
so
in
this
case
it
would
scoot
to
the
22nd
of
march.
M
Yep,
thank
you
then
in
may
thursday
may
24th
and
31st.
We
usually
don't
have
council
meetings
on
thursdays,
but
during
the
budget
we
sometimes
do
need
those.
We
try
to
avoid
those
but
we'd
like
to
ask
you
if
you
could
block
your
calendar
out
and
reserve
may
24th
and
31st
for
possible
work
sessions
if
we
need
those
to
get
the
budget
completed.
M
If
we
don't
get
enough
input
from
you
on
the
budget,
bad
things
happen.
Okay
in
june.
Typically,
the
council
would
take
action
on
the
budget
at
the
second.
On
at
the
meeting
on
the
second
tuesday
in
june,
we
did
list
a
tentative
formal
meeting
on
june
21st
in
case
you're
not
prepared
with
enough
information
to
adopt
it
on
june
14th.
M
Okay,
then,
in
july,
typically,
the
council
avoids
scheduling
a
meeting
near
the
summer
holidays,
so
the
staff
has
guests
at
meeting
dates
of
july,
12th
and
july
19th.
So
right
in
the
middle.
M
Okay
and
then
in
august,
to
accommodate
a
night
out
against
crime,
we
have
suggested
august
9th
and
august
16th
for
your
council
meetings.
M
There's
a
trick
to
that
which
is
you
always
need
to
reserve
with
the
county,
a
potential
truth
and
taxation
hearing
night,
and
so
we
would
ask
for
that
to
be
on
the
ninth,
but
it's
possible
that
they
will
decline
to
give
us
that
date
so
august.
Sometimes
we
have
to
ask
you
to
convene
an
extra
evening
just
for
that
truth
and
taxation
hearing
and
if
you're
not
making
major
changes
to
the
budget.
M
P
That
work
for
everybody-
great.
That's
it
awesome.
Council
members,
we
have
no
closed
session
and
so
our
work
session
is
adjourned.
We
are
meeting
in
this
room
for
our
formal
meeting
at
seven
o'clock.