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A
We
saw
in
2020
really
shaped
what
our
focus
was
going
to
be
both
last
year
and
this
year,
as
you're
aware,
we
did
create
the
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission,
and
that
really
is
something
that
is
a
priority
for
all
of
us
council
members
and,
as
we
heard
last
night
with
the
state
of
the
city,
the
mayor
as
well,
it
is
we're
dedicated
to
really
looking
at
how
we're
policing
and
what
the
equity
throughout
our
city
is,
and
how
do
we
increase
the
equity
in
all
of
our
services
for
our
residents
in
salt
lake
city.
A
You
know
I
think
residents
are
the
key
to
shaping
our
priorities.
It's
from
the
residents
that
we
hear
what
needs
are
it's.
The
phone
calls
the
emails,
the
texts,
the
facebook
messages
that
we
as
council
members
receive
from
our
constituents
from
our
residents
that
remind
us
of
what
those
priorities
are
for.
You
know
we're
elected
by
our
constituents
and
it's
important
that
we
listen
to
them
and
represent
the
needs
that
they
have.
D
Obviously,
we
weren't
able
to
do
the
in-person
meetings
and
things
like
that.
So
what
is
the
city.
C
A
Yeah
definitely
there
there
are
some
at
least
through
2020.
I
always
tried
to
look
at.
There
has
to
be
some
silver
linings
throughout
this
pandemic,
and
I.
E
E
A
Today's
city
council
meeting
it
is
sometime
in
2021
february,
9th
2021.
We
are
grateful
to
have
you
joining
us,
as
you
have
probably
seen,
and
are
very
well
aware.
We
continue
to
hold
electronic
meetings
due
to
the
practice
of
social
distancing
for
the
work
session.
We
welcome
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feed,
although
it
may
be
a
little
different.
A
We
are
having
technical
issues
and
internet
access
issues
today,
so
you
may
not
be
able
to
see
our
faces,
but
I
am
wearing
lipstick
so
and
my
camera
is
on
so
there's
that
maybe
one
day
you'll
see
it,
but
hopefully
you
can
hear
us
and
listen
along
with
our
work
session.
A
As
you
may
be
aware,
it
is
a
work
session
only
and
there
is
no
public
comment
scheduled.
However,
next
tuesday
february
16th
will
be
the
next
opportunity
for
the
public
to
comment
during
our
7
p.m.
Formal
meeting
your
feedback,
however,
is
always
welcome
and
you
can
reach
the
city
council
anytime
by
mailing
us
at
po
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah
84114
or
by
emailing
us
at
council,
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com.
A
801-535-7654
and
of
course,
as
always,
you
can
reach
out
individually
to
each
of
us
or
to
your
own
council
member.
We
will
now
move
on
to
our
work
session
items.
Our
first
work
session
item
one
is
update
from
the
administration
with
this
is
in
regards
to
covet
19
updates
the
earthquake
in
2020,
the
september
2020
windstorm
updates
on
the
condition
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
within
our
city
and
how
we're
working
with
those
our
communities,
police
department,
work
and
other
projects
or
updates
it
looks
like
today
I
have.
A
I
am
calling
on
you
lisa,
because
I
see
your
camera
on
oh,
and
there
is
the
mayor.
Thank
you
mayor
for
joining
us.
As
always,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
either
one
of
you.
Whoever
is
going
first.
Thank
you
both
for
joining
us.
D
Mayor
would
you
like
me
to
start
with
the
wind
update,
okay
I'll,
go
ahead
and
start?
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
council.
We
always
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
provide
updates
to
the
community
and
to
you
through
this
through
this
open
meeting
today,
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
brief
update
on
the
cemetery
damage
due
to
the
wind
storm.
D
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know.
As
you
know,
the
cemetery
has
been
closed
since
september,
8th
due
to
the
hurricane
force
winds,
we
had
265
trees
lost
on
those
grounds
and
all
the
trees
and
limbs
have
been
removed
at
this
point,
but
we
still
have
225
stumps
remaining.
D
The
existing
stumps
have
left
large
holes
in
the
ground,
making
public
access
dangerous
and
a
pretty
major
liability
to
salt
lake
city.
An
archaeologist
has
been
on
site
since
december
14th
and
inventorying
these
headstones
and
monuments
to
identify
tree
stumps
with
the
monument
extraction
and
inventory
damages
and
displacements.
D
So
the
archaeologist
has
identified
70
tree
stumps
with
headstones
that
are
intertangled
or
within
the
crater
and
193
that
are
displaced
or
on
the
edge
of
the
crater
10
headstones
were
heavily
damaged
or
destroyed
by
the
storm
and
will
need
replacement
or
major
repairs.
There
are
currently
109
tree
stumps
where
no
headstones
were
affected.
Those
stumps
will
be
removed
by
a
contractor
beginning
today.
D
It's
estimated
that
six
to
eight
tree
stumps
can
be
removed
every
single
day,
so
we're
actively
working
towards
that
later
on
today,
in
your
work
session,
meaning
we're
gonna,
ask
you
to
take
a
straw
poll
to
approve
previously
allocated
windstorm
recovery
funds.
We
want
to
specifically
dedicate
a
portion
of
those
funds
to
hire
a
monument
company
to
extract
the
headstones
displaced
and
tangled
in
tree
stumps
once
that
monument
company
is
hired.
D
Salt
lake
city
will
work
with
the
contractor
to
begin
work
at
their
earliest
availability,
and
then
work
will
proceed
to
repair
the
graves
and
restore
those
back
to
how
they
used
to
be.
Obviously,
we
couldn't
begin
this
work
until
we
had
the
archaeologists
assessment
done,
so
we're
happy
to
be
over
that
milestone.
D
We
anticipate
that
all
of
the
work
to
be
completed.
We
want
it
to
be
completed
prior
to
memorial
day.
However,
there
are
many
unknown
variables
which
could
delay
our
progress
in
the
event
that
work
is
unable
to
be
complete
before
memorial
day.
The
cemetery
will
open
to
the
public
with
any
remaining
open
hazards,
roped
off
and
closed
during
that
holiday
weekend.
A
I
actually
have
a
question.
Lisa
have
has
the
the
team,
I'm
not
sure
which
of
the
many
teams
within
our
department
I
mean
within
our
city,
are
working
on
this
project,
but
have
we
been
successful
at
contacting
family
members
of
the
the
tombstones
or
that
have
been
damaged
and
working
with
any
existing
family
members
whose
whose
families
are
are
there
in
the
cemetery,
and
what
does
that
effort?
Look
like
really.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question,
madam
chair.
It's
a
very,
very
arduous
process
and
a
lot
of
the
headstones
that
were
damaged
date
back
to
the
late
18th
1800s
early
1900s,
and
so
we
have
a
difficult
time
tracing
ownership
of
those
plots
all
the
way
back.
We
have.
We
have
partnered
with
some
partners
to
try
and
help
with
that
effort.
D
We
do
have
a
log
that
we
maintain
in
the
sexton's
office.
So
when
people
come
in,
we
ask
them
to
help
us
identify
if
they
have
an
ownership
stake
in
the
graves.
But,
as
you
can
imagine,
ownership
records
going
back
that
far
are
probably
going
to
be
impossible.
So
without
assistance
from
partners
or
from
this
windstorm
recovery
money
that's
been
allocated.
A
D
Yeah,
so
that's
the
reason.
Sorry
sorry,
I
interrupted
you
again,
I'm
having
I'm
one
of
the
people
experiencing
that
internet
issue
today.
So
thanks
internet
provider,
but
anyway
yeah
we
are,
we
we
had
to
work
because
it's
a
historic
site.
We
had
to
work
with
an
archaeologist
to
be
sensitive
to
all
of
the
historic
elements
of
the
place,
and
so
they
will
be
restored
in
a
historically
accurate
way.
That
doesn't
mean
that
they're
going
to
be
pristine
right.
That
means
that
they're
going
to
be
restored
in
a
historically
accurate
way.
D
A
D
I'm
I'm
also
next
on
the
list
to
provide
an
apprenticeship
update,
real
quick
to
date.
We
have
hired
three
apprentices.
We
have
one
offer
out
there
made
and
we
have
10
scheduled
interviews
which
is
really
exciting
in
just
a
couple
of
weeks
of
recruiting
for
apprentices.
So
we're
already
starting
to
to
you,
know
really
get
on
board
some
dynamic
and
interesting
folks.
D
We
currently
are
advertising
for
apprentice
positions
in
public
utilities,
we're
advertising
for
a
metal,
fabricator,
a
maintenance,
electrician,
a
graffiti
response,
team
member
irrigation
technicians,
natural
resource
technicians,
traffic
traffic
signal
technicians,
signs
and
markings
technicians,
asphalt,
maintenance
and
concrete
maintenance
technicians.
D
So,
in
addition
to
those
apprentice
opportunities,
we
also
have
we're
starting
to
advertise
a
lot
of
exciting
positions
in
the
city
so
including
many
seasonal
and
part-time
positions.
So
I
think
the
link
to
the
jobs
board
has
been
posted
in
the
chat.
Thank
you
to.
I
think
the
mayor
did
that.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
it,
but
please
help
us
get
the
word
out
about
these
amazing
opportunities.
This
is
a
really
great
program
and,
of
course,
salt
lake
city
is
an
amazing
place
to
work.
A
Thank
you,
lisa.
Are
there
any
questions
on
on
that?
Sorry,
mary
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
any
questions
on
the
apprenticeship
program.
I
don't
see
any
hands,
I
do
want
to
say.
I
had
a
a
small
group
meeting
with
the
marin
and
lisa
the
other
day
and
when
we
were
finishing
up,
lisa
was
telling
me
about
some
of
the
apprentices
that
have
been
hired
and
really
awesome,
inspiring
stories.
A
It's
a
great
program
and
I
think
kind
of
went
in
a
direction
for
some
of
the
applicants
that
maybe
we
weren't
expecting
from
what
lisa
was
saying,
but
really
I
think
it's
such
a
neat
opportunity
to
get
people
that
maybe
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
get
into
the
workforce
for
one
reason
or
another
to
open
up
some
of
those
doors.
A
So
I
will-
and
I'm
making
a
note
for
myself
so
if
any
of
the
staff
is
listening,
I'd
love
to
do
an
email
blast
for
my
district
with
this
information
and
and
try
to
get
some
more
awesome,
applicants
working
for
our
city
and
it
is
a
really
honestly
inspiring
program.
So,
thanks
for
coming
up
with
that
and
and
making
it
happen,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
It
has
been
surprising
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
to
anybody.
That's
listening
to
this
meeting.
The
best
qualification
to
work
in
our
apprentice
program
is
a
willingness
to
learn
so
come
join
us.
We
got
a
lot
of
fun
stuff
to
do
here.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
G
Thanks,
madam
chair
and
I
I
also
think
it's
an
amazing
program
and
kudos
to
lisa
schaefer.
It
was
her
brand
brainchild
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
piece
of
her
tremendous
legacy
of
work
already
at
salt
lake
city.
Hopefully
we
keep
growing
it.
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
homelessness.
We
reported
to
you
last
week
that
our
team
was
in
ongoing
conversations
and
cooperation
with
the
camp
last
hope
organizers
in
a
lead
up
to
that
february,
4th
closure.
G
We
are
really
grateful
for
their
partnership
and
it
helped
us
ensure
that
more
people
had
access
to
the
services
and
plenty
of
time
to
collect
their
belongings
that
they
wanted
to
take
with
them.
Prior
to
the
closure,
we
had
a
pretty
some
great
outcomes
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
in
the
resource,
fair,
which
was
two
days
before
the
closure
of
the
camp.
G
Now
that
they
have
contact
information.
Their
fourth
street
clinic
was
out
there
doing
covid
testing
they
provided
rapid,
coveted
tests,
20
were
tested,
one
was
found
positive
and
that
person
was
placed
into
a
quarantine
facility
with
the
county
and
there
was
shelter
placement
action
happening.
The
voa
city
outreach
team
placed
seven
people
into
shelter,
options,
no
clients
access
detox
during
the
fair.
But
since
then,
four
clients
from
that
area
have
gone
in
and
wanted
to
access
detox
services.
G
The
driver's
license
division
was
there
and
29
people
were
referred
to
appointments
to
receive
their
ids
that
were
specifically
held
open
by
the
driver's
license.
Division
for
this
resource
fair.
So
the
difficulty
that
people
face
in
obtaining
an
id
has
been
identified,
as
you
know,
as
a
huge
barrier
for
them
in
gaining
access
to
housing.
G
So
we're
grateful
to
sort
of
knit
those
that
need
and
the
op
and
the
opportunity
together
with
the
driver's
license
division.
Our
slc
justice
court
was
there
doing
mobile
court
hearings.
They
saw
27
individual
individuals
and
heard
46
cases
as
well
as
two
charges
from
salt
lake
county
and
one
from
west
valley.
The
third
district
court
saw
seven
individuals
with
cases
in
salt
lake
city
and
heard
11
cases.
Total
curtis
priest
from
the
justice
court
said
about
the
resource
fair.
G
G
So
it
was
a
very
successful
resource,
fair
and
good
to
see,
in
particular
with
the
detox
connections
that
happen
after
the
fact
sort
of
that
evidence
of
the
persistent
compassion,
persistent
connection
of
the
resource
providers.
If
it
doesn't
happen
in
that
moment
that
door
stays
open
and
the
connections
can
happen
down
the
road
and
shifting
gears
to
a
more
somber
tragedy
that
happened
last
weekend
with
the
death
of
a
woman
who
was
camping
in
a
salt
lake
city,
resident's
yard.
G
When
we
learned
about
this
encampment,
we
began
evaluating
it
with
our
partners
at
the
county
and
the
service
providers,
just
as
they
do,
or
we
do
in
partnership
with
any
encampment
in
the
city
and
that
helps
us
assess
when
and
if
an
area
needs
to
be
cleaned
in
the
future.
At
the
same
time,
our
building
services
team
began
receiving
complaints
about
the
camp
and
issued
a
warning
letter
to
the
homeowner,
with
the
understanding
that
the
camp
was
on
the
homeowner's
private
property.
G
So
it's
a
fence
that
encroaches
on
the
city
right
away,
and
we
did
not
learn
that
until
after
the
beginning
of
these
conversations
with
the
homeowner
and
because
it's
in
the
city,
right-of-way,
the
city,
health,
the
city
and
the
county
health
department
monitored
it,
as
we
would
do
with
all
camps
that
are
in
a
public
right-of-way
to
determine
whether
it
was
a
high
risk
or
a
high
priority
camp
for
abatement.
Due
to
public
health
and
safety
issues,
the
camp
was
not
high
risk
because
the
owner
was
working
to
address
the
hygiene
issues
there.
G
It
doesn't
diminish
the
individual's
death
or
the
inherent
danger
of
just
being
unsheltered
in
the
winter,
but
building
services
had
a
call
with
the
homeowner
to
advise
him
of
the
information
that
they
discovered
about
this
being
public
right-of-way,
but
there
wasn't
a
citation
issue
and
therefore
there
was
no
two-week
grace
period,
which
is
something
that
we've
heard
reported.
It's
inaccurate.
G
G
What's
additionally,
unfortunate
with
this
tragedy
is
that
we
knew
that
on
the
night
of
february,
6
shelter
bed
counts
were
available
in
every
shelter.
System-Wide,
so
the
my
hope
is
that
anyone
sleeping
in
a
tent
on
our
city
streets
will
instead
choose
a
safer
path
and
connect
with
our
homeless
services
system
and
that
we
will
be
able
to
be
able
to
help
people
prevent
future
tragedies
like
this
one.
The
investigation
into
that
woman's
cause
of
death
is
still
ongoing.
As
at
the
medical
examiners.
G
The
work
groups
that
we've
broken
out
into
are
around
finance
land
use
and
service
providers,
so
upward
mobility
and
community
programs
and
their
groups
are
in
the
process
right
now
of
getting
the
meetings
scheduled
and
coming
together.
G
So
I
look
forward
to
updating
you
and
involving
the
council
in
this
effort
as
we
go
forward
and
if
you
have
any
questions
about
what
those
the
finance
land
use
and
service
provider
working
groups
are
going
to
be
doing.
Specifically,
I'm
happy
to
go
into
that
and
if,
if
there
aren't
any
questions,
the
next
step,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
planning
on
doing
the
policing
section
now
or
in
the
next
agenda
item.
Madam
chair.
But
that's
not
it
for
my
updates.
A
We
can
I
mean
it
is
the
next,
if
that's
the
end
of
the
update,
we'll
go
to
the
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing,
and
then,
if
there
is
any
update
from
either
that
I
saw
chief
brown
on
here,
but
I
see
chief
doubts
assistant
chief
doubts
tile,
so
we'll
start
with
allison
allison.
Are
you
joining
us?
Yes,
on
the
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing,
and
then
we
can
turn
it
over
to
the
police
department.
If
there's
an
update
from
one
of
them
mayor.
G
Madam
chair,
thank
you
before
I
turn
it
over
there.
The
I
just
got
a
message
that,
like
all
of
the
council,
members
will
be
invited
to
all
three
of
those
work
groups,
so
no
pressure
but
you're
invited
to
listen
in
or
participate
in
those
if
you're
interested
so
watch
for
those
calendar
invites
coming.
C
Madam
chair,
the
next
rep
commission
work
session
is
tomorrow
february,
10th
and
beginning
at
5,
00
pm,
as
we've
mentioned
before,
the
public
can
listen
in
and
public
comments
are
also
taken
near
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
So
if
anyone
rather
than
trying
to
you
know,
repeat
a
long
website
or
something
I'll
just
say
that
you
may,
google
slc,
rep,
commission
and
you'll
get
a
way
a
route
to
get
into
those
meetings.
C
C
The
other
item
is
that
the
rep
commission's
facilitators
are
working
on
providing
a
complete
list
of
questions
and
responses
from
the
public
listening
session,
which
was
held
on
january
28th
that
they
will
be
discussing
that
tomorrow
in
the
meeting
and,
of
course
his
staff
will
forward
that
information
to
council
members
and
it
will
also
be
available
on
the
commission's
website.
That's
all
I
have.
A
Thanks
alison
chief
brown,
any
updates
from
you
or
assistant
chief
doubt.
H
H
We
have
since
january
5th,
when
we
stood
together.
The
mayor
myself,
us
attorney
john
huber,
us
marshall,
matt
harris
and
the
commissioner
jess
anderson.
We
have
put
a
lot
of
work
and
effort
into
our
our
this
project
and
what
we're
doing,
but
why
we're
doing
it
is
the
most
important
thing
look
2020.
We
we
saw
violent
crime
rise
across
our
city
21,
but
the.
Why
is
really
that
equates
to
287
victims,
more
victims
that
we
had
and
so
the?
Why
drives
the?
H
We,
the
the
partnership,
is
really
under
the
umbrella
of
project
safe
neighborhood,
which
is
we've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time
projects
it's
project,
safe,
neighborhood,
identifying
individuals
and
prosecuting
them
federally,
but
we've
never
done
it
like.
We
have
brought
this
team
together.
Now
I
mean
we've
really
focused
our
the
beam
so
to
speak
on
these
violent
habitual
apex
criminals
in
our
community
to
to
go
after
them
and
to
give
them
the
appropriate
consequences
for
their
actions
and
the
violence
that
they're
committed
in
our
community.
H
To
give
you
a
rundown
of
who
this
partnership
entails.
Again
is
the
us
attorneys.
There
are
several
from
the
u.s
attorney's
office.
The
u.s
marshals
is
involved
the
department
of
public
safety,
the
state
syack
center,
the
atf
alcohol,
tobacco
and
firearms
dea,
the
fbi,
homeland
security,
apm
sheriff
rivera
and
jail
personnel.
So
this
is
quite
we've
really
brought
a
lot
of
resources
and
different
departments
to
the
table.
H
H
16
defendants
have
been
charged
federally
14
I've
been
for
illegal
firearm,
possessions,
six
for
drug
trafficking,
six
gang
affiliation
charges,
seven
were
on
parole
or
probation
and
five
had
current
or
prior
domestic
violence
cases,
and
let
me
give
you
a
couple
examples
of
who
who
we're
actually
going
after
in
our
communities
on
january
19th,
we
had
an
individual
that
went
to
the
residence
of
a
former.
I
believe
it
was
a
girlfriend
and
he
pulled
out
an
ak-47
assault
rifle.
He
then
proceeded
to
to
crank
off
several
rounds
right
there
from
the
street.
H
He
fled
the
scene.
We
were
able
to
track
him
down,
he
was
brought
to
justice
and
he
will
be
charged
for
the
crimes
committed,
but
he
is
a
restricted
person.
He's
been
restricted
for
possession
of
firearm.
That
very
same
evening,
we
had
another
individual,
a
known
gang
member.
A
documented
gang
member
commit
three
drive
by
three
drive-by
shootings
in
our
community.
At
three
different
locations
officers
just
happened
to
be
in
in
one
of
the
areas
heard:
the
shots,
a
pursuit
was
initiated,
the
car
was
disabled,
but
that
didn't
stop
this
individual.
H
H
So
this
is
the
work
that
we're
doing
what
we're
trying
to
do
and-
and
we
we're
committed
to
this-
is
to
be
open
and
transparent.
H
I
provided
a
sample
of
a
dashboard
that
we're
putting
together
so
that
anybody
counsel
you
your
constituents,
the
community,
can
look
and
see
exactly
what
we've
accomplished,
I
don't
know
is:
is
it
available
to
be
pulled
up.
H
H
If
it
was
a
drug
case
on
the
next
square,
you'll
see
what
type
of
drug
the
number
of
doses
and
the
amount
of
money
excuse
me,
the
next
square
will
show
cases
with
guns
and
then
we'd
like
to
track
the
total
guns
seized
through
this
partnership
in
this
project,
and
I
think
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
this.
This
whole
project
is
the
transparency.
H
The
mayor
myself,
u.s
attorney
john
huber
on
a
quarterly
basis,
maybe
even
more
often
are,
are
going
to
come
back
and
report
of
our
efforts
and
perhaps
our
goals
moving
forward.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
an
update
where
we're
at
tomorrow
will
be
our
fifth
meeting
and
we
have
more
cases
to
review.
But
I
think
this
is
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
in
our
communities
and
specifically
targeting
those
that
are
that
are
that
are
going
to
commit
violent
crime
in
our
communities.
So
with
that,
if
you
have
any
questions.
A
A
E
A
Great,
thank
you.
If
there's
no
one
else,
then
we
will
move
on
to.
We
are
a
little
bit
early,
but
I
see
kate
bradshaw's
title
so
kate.
If
you
are
available,
we
are
actually
on
agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
just
our
state
legislative
briefing,
we're
halfway
through
kate,
how
you
holding
up
all
right.
J
Well,
thank
you.
I
I
come
to
you
from
the
the
bowels
of
the
state.
Capitol
we've
just
finished
up.
Some
committee
hearings
this
afternoon,
some
with
some
positive
bills
in
the
law
enforcement
area
that
I'll
share
with
you,
but
first
I
wanted
to
start
with.
If
you
don't
mind
there
are,
there
are
some
billboard
bills
moving
through
the
process
this
year
there
are
three
different
billboard
bills
and
city
attorney.
Katie
lewis
has
been
deeply
involved
in
the
negotiating
group
with
the
league
of
cities
and
towns
on
behalf
of
the
city.
J
All
three
of
the
bills
are
in
the
in
the
state
senate,
the
one
that
is
that
is
currently
being
negotiated
and
where
progress
is
being
made
in
those
negotiations
is
being
run
by
senator
scott
sandal.
That's
sb
61.
J
J
It
looks
like
that
bill
will
likely
be
back
to
a
committee
hearing
sometime
next
week,
the
two
other
bills
they
have
they've,
actually
all
been
assigned
to
the
same
committee,
and
I
would
say,
to
a
certain
extent,
senator
sandal
has
been
like
it
or
not
made
the
billboard
official
guru
of
the
2021
session,
and
so
the
ability
for
those
other
bills
to
be
heard
in
advance
in
large
part
greatly
hinges
on
the
negotiations
on
sb-61.
J
A
Okay,
before
you
move
on
sorry,
sorry,
I'm
having
like
cord
issues
under
my
desk,
but
I
saw
katie
turn
her
camera
on
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
minute
katie.
If
there
was
anything
you
wanted
to
add
to
what
kate
said
about
any
of
the
billboard
bills.
I
know
you
have
been
working
pretty
pretty
hard
on
on
those
and,
if
not
that's
fine,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
the
opportunity.
If
you
wanted
to.
A
J
Sure
that's
great.
The
next
category
is
law
enforcement
bills
and,
as
I've
mentioned
in
the
briefing
at
the
last
work
session,
there's
been
an
effort
to
move
the
law
enforcement
bills
because
there
are
quite
a
number
of
them
this
year
in
groups
that
make
sense
so
that
you're
dealing
with
similar
topics
in
in
a
committee
hearing
versus
bouncing
all
over
the
the
different
sections
of
the
law
enforcement
code.
So
the
team
working
on
law
enforcement
bills
has
been
kept
pretty
busy.
J
J
There
were
three
bills
that
just
actually
moved
out
of
committee
this
afternoon
just
about
20
minutes
ago.
They
were
all
things
that
that
the
city
had
support
positions
on
one
had
dealt
with
some
overarching
standards.
For
you
know
if
a
city
is
going
to
have
citizen
review
boards,
what
those
those
boards
ought
to
look
like
and
providing
some
guidance
to
any
city.
J
That
is
that
has
those
civilian
review
boards,
another
on
post,
certifications
that
we
talked
about
last
last
meeting
as
well
in
terms
of
the
training
that
an
officer
would
receive
on
mental
health
and
crisis,
intervention,
training
that
moved
move
through
committee
today
and
will
advance
to
the
floor
and
then
another
bill
dealing
with
the
data
collection
when,
when
a
weapon
is
drawn,
that
bill
also
passed
out
of
committee
today
and
will
move
on
to
the
house
floor.
J
So
we're
deeply
engaged
in
in
all
of
those
discussions
and
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
salt
lake
city's
point
of
view
and
values
and
are
inserted
into
the
many
law
enforcement
discussions
that
are
happening
up
at
the
state
capitol
unless
there's
any
questions
on
those
law
enforcement
bills,
I'll
move
to
the
next
topic.
This
is
this
is
another
one
where
we've
kept
the
city
attorney's
office
hopping
today.
Answering
questions
for
us
and
and
giving
us
ideas
on
amendments.
J
The
idea
of
regulatory
sandboxes
are
not
something
that
is
necessarily
new.
These
these
have
existed
in
state
code
for
a
while,
and
if
in
your
heads,
you
pictured
kids
playing
in
a
sandbox,
this
bill
is
is
not
about
those
types
of
sandboxes.
It's
about
an
area
where
fledgling
industries
or
new
concepts
or
new
services
could
kind
of
test
out
their
operations
free
of
of
some
regulations
until
it's
determined
whether
or
not
those
regulations
are
necessary
for
that
particular
industry
or
service
or
business.
J
This
year,
there's
a
larger
push
by
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development
to
create
a
more
robust
regulatory
sandbox
environment,
and
today
we
suggested
some
amendments
to
make
sure
that
there's
transparency
to
the
counties
into
the
cities
about
that
process,
so
that
if
local
officials
are
are
charged
with
doing
things
like
building
inspections,
that
they
would
know
if
this
was
a
business
that
had
been
granted
regulatory
relief
in
a
sandbox
and
weren't.
Therefore
flagging
the
normal
types
of
things
that
might
exist.
J
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
data
is
passed
all
the
way
down
to
the
cities
and
also
that
there's
transparency
to
citizens
and
residents
that
they
know
that
if
they
choose
to
use
a
business
or
a
service
that
that
they
might
be
exempt
from
the
things
they
might
see
in
a
in
a
different
business
or
service.
In
terms
of
you
know,
life,
health
and
safety
type
regulation.
J
J
The
last
couple
weeks
on
on
a
potential
issue
involving
flight
paths
and
airport
runway
noise,
and
you
know
a
piece
of
land
that
is
potentially
up
for
development,
but
that
would
be
potentially
impacted
by
the
the
noise
from
the
airport's
runway
expansions,
and
so
we
were
grateful
that
we
were
able
to
deploy
that
team
to
negotiate
with
the
developer,
to
have
good
conversations
with
neighboring
cities
about
this
issue
and
therefore
we
didn't
need
to
bring
it
to
a
legislative
arena
because
of
their
good
work
in
in
moving
that
issue
forward
and
finding
a
great
resolution
there.
J
Those
are
some
of
the
quick
updates
of
what's
happening
up
here
at
the
state
capitol.
We
are
officially
tomorrow
at
noon
at
the
halfway
point.
Usually
at
the
halfway
point,
we
wear
ugly
sport
coats
to
celebrate
the
halfway
mark,
but
I
suppose
this
year,
we'll
just
find
funnier
masks
to
wear.
J
A
Thank
you,
kate,
and
I
appreciate
the
update
on
those
those
bills.
I
know
that
between
all
of
our
lobbyists
and
and
you
at
the
helm,
we're
tracking
what,
as
part
of
the
legislative
subcommittee,
feels
like
roughly
1072
bills,
so
I
don't
know
how
you're
keeping
track
of
all
of
them,
but
you're
doing
a
great
job.
A
If
any
council
members
have
questions
about
bills
that
maybe
kate
didn't
touch
on
today,
we
had
kate
and
I
had
talked
earlier,
and
those
were
kind
of
the
ones
that
came
up
it
just
have
been
coming
up.
A
lot
in
conversation
so
wanted
to
give
updates
on
those,
but
certainly,
if
there's
something
of
interest
that
kate
didn't
mention,
I'm
sure
she'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
today
or
in
the
future.
So
I'll
open
it
up
a
little
bit.
A
E
You
don't
have
to
I
mean
I
if
you
could
get
me
that
information
I'd
love
to
know
what
was
agreed
upon
and
you
know
to
be
able
to
make
it.
So
there
wasn't
any.
J
Sure-
and
I'm
sure
katie
will
chime
in
if
I
misspeak
it
anyway
from
a
legal
perspective,
but
there
were
some
avgation
easements
that
were
agreed
to.
That
would
provide
the
proper
notice
to
anyone
that
might
live
on
on
that
land
if
it's
developed
into
residential
uses,
so
that
they
are
aware
at
the
time
of
purchase
of
what
that
means
to
live
in
a
property
that
is
that
close
to
the
airport,
and
so
that
would
be
recorded.
J
It
would
follow
with
any
subsequent
owners
of
residences
and
and
our
neighboring
city
to
the
north.
North
salt
lake
agreed
the
developer
agreed,
so
those
will
be
recorded
and
katie
is
nodding,
like
I
haven't
strayed
into
any
any
practicing
without
a
licensed
legal
descriptions.
A
Great,
thank
you,
kate.
Any
other
questions
from
council
members.
A
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
went
up
to
the
capitol
today
and
it
was
great
to
actually
see
kate
in
person
and
so
a
couple
of
our
other
lobbyists,
and
also
it's
incredibly
strange
because
one
I
got
a
parking
spot
like
right
outside
the
front
door
and
two
there's
like
nobody
around
it's
very
strange
world.
We
live
in
right
now,
but
all
of
our
lobbyists
are
doing
a
really
great
job
for
the
city's
interests.
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
again
almost
halfway,
which
I
appreciate,
and
I
don't
even
do
half
the
work
up
there
that
you
guys
do.
I
just
get
ptsd
from
it.
So
with
that,
if
nobody
has
anything
else,
kate,
you
are
free
to
go
wander
around
the
capitol
halls
again.
J
Thank
you.
Any
questions,
you're
always
welcome
to
to
ping
me,
and
I
will
convey
to
the
team
that
you
all
think
we're
doing
a
great
job
up
here
in
our
weird
coveted
session,
thanks
kate.
A
Great
with
that,
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
an
amendment
to
require
notice
for
permits
to
work
in
the
public
way.
Follow-Up.
A
I
have
hopefully
have
nick
turban
there,
you
are
nick
nick
tarbet
and
a
number
of
other
people
from
can
hand,
engineering
and
yeah.
So
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
Nick.
L
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me
perfect?
I
always
have
to
double
check
with
mine.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
a
follow-up
briefing
on
proposed
amendments
to
the
city
code
requiring
permit
holders
to
provide
notice
to
property
owners
whose
properties
are
adjacent
to
above
ground
to
work
that
will
be
performed
in
the
public
right-of-way.
L
We
have
representatives
from
can
staff
here,
matt
castle
from
engineering
and
then
the
attorney's
office
as
well.
The
intent
of
this
follow-up
briefing
is
to
review
the
public
comments
that
the
council
heard
during
the
public
hearing.
L
In
addition
to
some
very
specific
requests
that
were
received
by
verizon
wireless,
I
think
our
goal
is
to
for
the
council
to
let
staff
know
which
changes
you
would
support
us
moving
forward
with,
and
then
we
could
include
those
in
the
future
draft
for
consideration.
L
So
with
that,
if
it's
all
right
I'll
just
step
through
the
items
that
we
heard
and
then
the
council
can
give
us
the
direction
as
we
move
forward
with
those
all
right,
the
first
one
is
kind
of
a
big
one.
There
was
quite
a
few
public
comments
from
people
who
were
expressing
concern
that
this
work
was
only
pertaining
to
above
ground
work.
There
had
been
some
hope
that
this
would
also
apply
to
below
ground
to
work,
but
the
ordinance
was
drafted
specifically
for
above-ground
work
in
talking
with
canned
staff.
L
M
Thank
you
nick
there's.
The
reason
we
put
together
the
information
are
to
put
together
the
idea
of
of
requiring
verified
notice
for
above
ground
versus
everything
we
do
in.
The
right
of
way
is
really
a
two
things
as
a
resource
issue
and
really
trying
to
refine
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
what
the
goal
of
what
the
council
was
trying
to
ask
for,
which
was
to
address
the
impacts
of
above
ground
construction
in
the
right-of-way.
M
So
if
we
were
to
try
to
do
verified
outreach
for
the
below
ground
things,
items
that
would
go
on
construction
going
on,
it
would
take
quite
a
few
more
people
in
the
engineering
department
to
manage
the
program
as
large.
As
that,
we
have
a
lot
of
permits.
Last
year,
2700
permits
a
large
portion
of
those
permits
are
in
front
of
a
home
or
two.
N
Hey
man
ma'am
chair
can
ask
a
quick
question
about
that.
Thank
you,
hey
matt.
You
just
said
that
google
fiber
is
saying
they're
notifying
everybody
that
they're
working
in
front
of
the
residence
so
say
they
open
up
the
sidewalk
to
put
in
a
box
they're
saying
they're,
notifying
the
resident
that
resident.
M
N
I
Yeah
I
they
just
finished
in
front
of
my
house
a
couple
months
ago.
I
didn't
get
any
notice
and
I
don't
know
why.
Why
can't
we
just
require
the
provider
to
provide
the
notice
if
they
say
that
they're
already
doing
it.
I
know
there's
a
verification
issue,
but
then
it
could
just
be
like
on
a
complaint
based
system
like.
If
people
didn't
get
notification
they
could
let
the
city
know,
and
then
we
could.
We
could
check
it
out.
I
You
know
one
minute:
you're,
you
have
a
normal
street
and
next
minute
at
7
7
a.m.
You
know
you
hear
a
truck
out
there
and
you
go
and
look
outside
and
they're
drilling
into
the
sidewalk
and
your
car
stuck
in
the
driveway.
All
those
things
I
mean
I
I
don't.
I
can't
imagine
that
that
and
some
of
my
residents
have
said
that
coming
from
other
cities
that
they
their
cities
require
there
to
be
some
kind
of
notice.
M
M
It's
the
verification
piece
which
gets
a
little
more
tricky
is
what
verification
is
it
certified
mail
and
then
how
do
we
record
that
make
sure
it's
a
database
that
we,
when
people
come
to
say
they
weren't
noticed
that
we
can
research
that
database
find
out
if
they
were
we're
not
and
then
also
to
be
able
to
define
the
boundaries
of
where
that
notification
is,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
next
questions
that
were
asked
so
there's
some
pieces
to
it.
But
yes,
that's!
First
of
all,
we
could
do
it.
M
If
council
wants
to
do,
we
can
definitely
do
it.
It's
just
a
resource
issue
for
us
to
manage
that
program.
B
Can
I
add
to
matt
that
there
is
a
policy
now
that
that
residents
are
notified,
so
that
is
happening?
It's
just
not.
There
is
the
policy,
it's
just
not
codified
and
a
lot
of
times.
I
think
google
might
provide
notice
with
like
construction
triangle,
construction
barriers
or
something
like
at
intersections
and
not
deliver
a
notice
to
every
house.
O
Thanks
yeah,
I
I
I'm
trying
to
remember
when
google
fiber
came
in
front
of
my
house,
but
I
think
that
I
did
get
something
on
my
door,
but
it
was
really
vague.
It
was
just
saying:
work
will
be
done
from
this
day
to
this
date,
but
it
wasn't
clear,
like
I
think
the
process
is
confusing
because
first
there's
a
trench
coat
and
then
it
stays
there
for
a
few
days.
O
And
you
don't
know
if
that's
the
way
it's
going
to
be
and
then
there's
a
box
drilled
in
your
park
strip
and
the
landscaping
isn't
repaired
for
a
few
days
and
when
it
is,
it's,
maybe
not
repaired
great.
So
I
think
I
I
would
advocate
that
we
require
some
sort
of
notice,
and
maybe
we
just
put
the
burden
on
the
provider
to
keep
track
of
that
notice.
O
And
so,
if
there's
a
complaint
filed,
then
they
can
provide
proof
that
they
have
noticed
that,
whether
that
be
certified
mail
receipt
or
whatever
it's
it's
their
job
to
track
and
prove
that,
and
if
they
can't
prove
that
they've
provided
notice,
then
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
sort
of
fee
for
the
staff
time
and
and
our
time
for
dealing
with
you
know
all
the
complaints
that
we're
getting
in.
But
I
I
think
that
the
notice
that
we
require
also
needs
to
have
enough
specificity
so
that
the
homeowner
knows
what
to
expect
like.
O
Should
I
not
park
in
my
driveway
this
this
week?
Should
I
figure
out
a
different
way
to
get
to
work
this
week?
I
think
it's
it's
unclear
and
I've
just
anecdotally
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
that
couldn't
I
had
an
employee
that
couldn't
make
it
to
a
meeting
because
she
was
locked
in
her
driveway.
So
I
I
think
that
we
definitely
it's
a
it's
a
disservice
to
the
city,
to
not
require
more
robust,
noticing.
A
F
I
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
check
at
following
on
to
what
councilman
romano
was
saying.
Is
it
a
policy
that
requires
notification
now
with
underground,
or
is
it
an
ordinance
that
requires
notification.
F
And
I'll
tell
you
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
that
if
it
is
just
a
policy,
it
probably
needs
to
be
an
ordinance,
and
I
think
that
that
in
the
effort
to
be
conscientious,
maybe
engineering's
making
it
harder
than
the
council
intended
that.
Basically,
you
just
require
the
notice
you
you
tell
them
that's
their
job.
They
need
to
keep
whatever
documentation
they
can
and,
for
example,
when
when
people
deliver
to
your
home
now
they
take
a
photograph
and
they
retain
that.
F
That's
their
expense,
it's
their
responsibility,
and
you
know
we're
not
as
a
government
having
them
do
that.
So
so,
if
it
isn't
an
ordinance
already,
maybe
the
council
would
want
to
make
it
an
ordinance,
and
then
I
would
suggest
that
that
you're,
just
at
look
the
council's
just
looking
for
a
requirement
with
specificity
and
not
not
any
sort
of
government
verification,
but
just
holding
them
accountable.
A
A
And
then,
with
that,
I
just
a
quick
follow-up
question:
is
there?
Does
the
policy
go
into
some
of
those
specifications
or
specificities
and
give
some
sort
of
timing
to
your
point
kimberly
with
if
google's
putting
out
a
triangle
say
and
thinking
that
that's
sufficient
notice
the
date
of
doing
something,
then
that
might
be
something
that
the
council
wants
to
address
of
saying.
M
It's
actually
a
relatively
loose
policy,
we
require
them
to
provide
outreach,
but
we
don't
monitor
it
and
we
don't
have
specificity
on
exactly
elements
of
the
policy
that
they
need
to
adhere
to.
So
it
is
not
very
well
defined.
A
Okay,
andrew
and
then
chris.
N
M
N
M
It's
not
the
fun,
it
could
satisfy
it.
It's
it's!
It's
possible!
Yes,
okay,
it's
defined
enough
to
say
yes
or
no.
N
M
N
Okay-
well,
I
I
I'm
sure
I
know
we're
talking
about
two
different
pieces
and
we're
not
actually
talking
about
underground
work,
which
is
google,
is
doing
right
now.
I
I
would
I'm
sensitive
to
the
the
volume
of
work
this
would
entail.
I
mean
notice
in
in
the
sense
of
google
or
a
verizon
or
a
large
provider
who
is
all
over
the
city,
and
there
are
probably
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
potentially
of
permits
and
that's
a
massive
volume
of
notification
and
verification.
N
N
I
mean
I
think
that
would
help
a
lot
just
the
issue
is
just
information
and
there's
no
information
going
out,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
a
burden
on
the
city,
but
if,
if
we
could
get
in
the
ordinance
some
way
to
say
before
or
after
the
permit,
how
much
information
do
you
expect
them
to
have
and
to
post
and
get
notification?
How
people
get
that
information?
I
You
know
like
door
hangers
and
they
could
just
file
or
even
just
a
postcard
that
they
leave.
You
know
in
the
door
jam
and
if
they
want
to
like
mail
the
postcard
and
be
extra
safe,
then
they
can
just
provide
a
receipt
of
the.
You
know
that
they
have
the
mass
mailing
that
they
did
and
the
addresses
that
they
send
it
to
or
they
could
just
file
an
affidavit
that
says:
hey
we,
you
know
we
were
doing
the
street,
we
went
out,
we
did
it
on
this
day,
here's
a
picture
of
the
guy.
I
You
know
he
takes
a
couple
pictures
showing
that
he
did
it
and
and
then,
if
there
are
a
lot
of
complaints
from
residents
that
that
they
didn't
receive
any
notice,
only
then
do
we
have
any
staff
that
look
into
it.
I
mean
we
could
create
a
form
that
that
they
could
fill
out
with
the
city
and
turn
it
in
online,
just
verifying
that
that
they
did
the
notice
that
they
were
required
to
do,
and
then
that
just
goes
in.
I
don't
know
a
stack
of
forms
that
we
can
look
through.
M
You
know
on
each
each
permit
which
houses
need
to
be
notified,
and
and
so
it
just
adds
a
couple,
more
steps
to
the
permitting
process
and
then
management
of
the
database
so
that
it's
it's
a
useful
tool
for
us.
The
worst
thing
to
do
is
collect
information,
put
it
someplace,
never
use
it,
and
then,
when
you
need
to
use
it
not
be
able
to
work
your
way
through
to
be
able
to
find
something.
I
I
I
feel
like
as
a
company
like
that's
a
risk
I'm
taking,
and
it's
probably
a
risk
that
I
don't
want
to
take,
especially
if
there's
a
potential
for
fines.
Then
I'll
just
be
like
look
I'll
just
hit
both
sides
of
the
road
or.
M
M
Yes,
it
does,
and
I
would
love
that,
but
right
now
we
have
we
are
heavily
restr.
We
cannot,
unless
we
have
a
permit
on
the
road
we
can't
find.
Unless
we
have
a
permit
issued,
we
cannot
find
contractors
for
things
that
they
do
in
the
right
of
way.
So
if
this
is
a
permitting
before
the
permit
is
issued-
and
they
don't
do
it
and
they
don't
have
a
permit,
that's
going
to
be
difficult
for
us
to
find
them
and
we've
been.
M
B
Chris,
let
me
know
that
there
was
an
issue
raised
by
verizon
that
they
maybe
think
that
it
would
not
be
appropriate
for
them
to
notice
adjacent
property
owners
for
potential
construction,
because
they
don't
actually
have
a
permit
for
the
location.
B
Did
that
make
sense
yeah,
so
if
we
require
notice
before
they
can
get
their
permit,
their
comment
was:
I
don't
know
that
we
should
be
providing
notice
before
we
have
approval,
but
we
could
provide.
They
could
provide
notice
before
construction,
so
after
perm
before
construction
and
then
the
difficulty
pair
is
what
matt's
alluding
to
which
is.
We
don't
have
another
touch
point
between
the
city
and
the
contractor
after
the
permits
issued
until
the
works
complete.
So
if
you
want
verification
before
they
start
construction,
that's
where
all
the
costs
come
in.
I
Yeah-
and
I
I
saw
that
in
the
letter-
but
I
why
is
that
are?
Why
is
that
our
problem,
that
they
don't
that
it's
potential
construction
or
not,
and
why
is
that
I
mean
I
understand
that,
especially
with
a
telecom
company
like
verizon,
I
mean
for
them
to
just
err
on
the
side
of
providing
notice
to
where
they
think
they
might
need.
It
doesn't
seem
like
a
huge
cost
to
me
to
a
company
like
that.
M
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it's
a
verizon
hires
subcontractors
to
do
the
work,
so
the
mom
and
pops
that
they
hire
a
lot
like,
I
said,
a
lot
of
them
are
good,
but
a
lot
of
them.
This
isn't
high
on
their
list
of
things
that
they
feel
is
necessary
to
do
so.
I
think
that's
where,
as
we
were,
trying
to
boil
this
down
is
what
council's
asked
was,
which
was
a
lot
of
complaints
concerned
with
a
permit,
was
issued
for
a
small
cell
tower
in
front
of
a
person's
home
without
any
notification.
M
I
think
that
was
what
we
were
trying
to
drill
down
to
in
this
exercise,
which
was
okay.
How
do
we
do
that
so
that
at
least
the
residents
are
noticed
before
the
permits
issue,
that
a
small
cell
may
be
installed
in
front
of
their
home,
and
then
the
issue
that
we're
talking
about
here
is
then
that
next
step,
which
is
getting
people
notified
when
the
construction
is
coming
along.
C
I
Mean
at
this
point,
any
notice
would
be
better
than
what
we
have
whether
we
have
to
whether
we
like
hey.
We
got
it,
we
sorry
we
can
only
do
notices
after
the
permit's
been
issued,
or
we
can
try
to
do
notices
before
the
permit
and
then
hold
the
permit
like.
We
just
can't
continue
to
be
like
we
just
don't
require
anything
or
we
require
good.
I
We
we
we're
just
relying
on
good
faith,
because
that's
not
working
so
any
notice
that
we
can
require
now
is
better
and-
and
I
don't
think
that
to
me
it's
an
arbitrary
distinction
to
say
we
only
require
for
above
ground
versus
below
ground
work,
and
so
I
really
feel
like
that
needs
to
be.
We
just
need
to
find
a
way
to
make
that
requirement
in
there.
B
And
chris,
this
is
a
great
conversation
because
we
really
want
to
understand
what
the
council
expects
at
the
end
of
this
right.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
now
codifying
notice
is
important,
so
it's
just
trying
to
make
sure
we're
meeting
your
needs
and
your
expectations
with
this
conversation.
O
Yeah
and
I
this
comment's
gonna
sound
like
I'm,
trying
to
be
lazy
or
something,
but
I
think,
though,
there's
already
a
lot
of
work
being
done,
because
the
notice
isn't
happening
and
that's
us
getting
complaints
from
residents
that
are
frustrated,
so
there's
a
frustrated,
residence
and
work
being
done.
So
if
it
requires
an
additional
person
to
help
verify
something,
I
think
we
could.
A
Ana
give
me
one.
Second,
sorry
nick
has
something
to
say,
and
I
might
shed
some
up
some
more
information
go
ahead.
Nick.
L
E
I
had
a
question
about
how:
how
do
we
do
the
notices
right
now
for
work
that
the
city
does?
Are
we
notifying,
I
mean?
Are
we
being
successful
and
notifying
people
and
that's
why
we
don't
hear
that
many
complaints
about
that,
and
so
that's
one
way
to
to
see
what
system
work
we
do
in
house
to
see.
If
a
you
know,
a
private
company
can
mimic
but
another
another
way.
I
think
we
could
do.
E
The
project
time
is
from
this
day
to
this
date,
and
then
maybe
we
can
have
a
website
a
page
where
people
can
actually
go
in
there
and
see
what
streets
are
going
to
be
affected,
but
we,
if
we
require
that
before
we
can
give
them
the
permit,
like
basically
the
companies
need
to
tell
us
more
and
less
when,
and
this
is
going
to
happen.
So
at
the
very
least,
I
can
go
online
and
see
oh
okay,
so
apparently
google
is
going
to
be
outside
my
house
next
month.
I
don't
know.
M
So
so
far
for
our
projects,
internal
projects,
we
actually
have
a
person
specific
to
making
sure
that
we
do
the
outreach
that's
necessary.
We
create
email
lists,
we
have
a
website
created
on
local
street
projects,
we
go
to
door
and
leave
flyers.
Let
them
know
that
the
construction
started
and
when
it's
going
to
start,
but
we
give
them.
We
start
that,
like
a
year
in
advance
of
any
of
our
projects
and
we
pump
as
much
information,
I
think
our
best
successful
story
is
on
13th
feast.
M
L
So
what
what
I
think,
what
we're
hearing
is
notification
is
key
and
that's
what
the
council
wants
us
to
do.
This
ordinance
would
require
that
notification
to
happen
before
the
permit
is
obtained.
They'd
have
to
show
proof.
You
know
whether
it's
a
picture
time
stamp
photo
that
the
the
notification
has
been
delivered.
They
would
then
bring
that
to
engineering
as
a
part
of
their
permit
application
to
show.
L
Yes,
we
did
this
and
that's
what
we've
heard
some
of
the
franchises
don't
support,
but
that's
what
the
council
thinks
is
going
to
be
very
helpful
in
notifying
the
public.
So
I
think
I'm
understanding
the
council
supports
that.
The
next
question
is:
do
you
want
this
extended
to
undergrounding
projects?
I'm
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know.
I'm
hearing
general
support
for
that
idea
and
if
that's
the
case,
we
can
go
back
and
work
with
the
attorney's
office
in
can
to
come
up
with
the
draft
language
for
the
council
to
consider
all
that.
A
I
think
I
think
you
summed
it
up
quite
nicely
nick.
Thank
you
very
much.
Would
council
members
just
give
a
thumbs
up
or
a
thumbs
down
if
that
is
something
that
you
agree
with
with
what
nick
just
said.
N
J
N
M
That'd,
be
I
I
think
in
the
pre.
I
think
there
would
be
a
separation
of
that.
If
there's
a
requirement
for
pre-permit
outreach,
verizon
would
end
up
doing
that
once
they
get
into
construction
here
in
construction
and
have
identified
the
contractor,
then
the
contractor
would
be
responsible
for
their
outreach
from
that
point
on,
so
there
may
be
some
disconnect
for
the
utilities.
With
that.
N
Even
when
I
talk
to
them,
I
don't
get
any
information
and
the
phone
number
they
give.
You
doesn't
give
you
information
either.
So
I
think
we
got
some
various
levels
to
deal
with.
I'm
not
sure
this
is
going
to
fix
all
of
it.
So
I
support
madam
chair,
but
I'm
concerned
this
is
one
of
those
holes
going
down
how
much
we
have
to
micromanage
to
get
the
outcome
we
want,
because
there's
so
many
levels
and
people
who
are
just
flooding
city
ordinance.
Frankly,
so.
A
A
I
also
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
something
cindy
said
in
into
maybe
matt's
concern
is
the
the
people
power
something
like
this
might
take
and
and
not
having
the
resources,
and
I
think,
putting
the
onus
back
on
the
business
itself
might
be
a
way
to
balance
that
out.
But
I
think
what
we're
mostly
doing
today
is
hearing
everybody's
concerns
and
then
kind
of
having
our
staff
in
engineering
and
can
and
everyone
go
back
and
to
the
table
and
say:
hey:
are
there
other
things
we
can
do
to
address?
A
F
Just
a
quick:
do
you
want
to
have
the
this
first
part
passed
so
that
you
can
get
it
on
the
books
and
then
come
back
around
to
the
second
part
say
you
know,
give
us
some
time
frame,
two
months
or
whatever,
so
that
you
get
one
part
of
it
on
the
books.
Or
would
you
rather
have
it
all
comprehensive
at
one
time,
I'm
just
afraid
at
how
long
it
might
take
to
get
the
rest
of
this
done.
I
think
it'll
be
relatively
simple,
but
but
everybody's
you
know
busy
so.
F
F
I
A
E
So
I
propose
the
straw
poll
that
we
move
this
portion
forward
with
identifying
the
portion
that
we've
that
cindy
just
mentioned
and
coming
back
to
us
as
a
council.
E
I
I
just
don't
if
we
go
forward
with
what
we
have
now.
I
I'm
happy
with
that,
but
I
don't
want
that
to
be
like
a
reason
to
delay
making
these
other
changes,
and
so
as
long
as
we
can
make
sure
that
that
we
are
keeping
that
in
the
forefront.
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
get
lost
on
and
then
realize.
We
never
came
back
to
the
below
ground
projects.
A
I
think
that
we
could
put
a
timeline
of
some
sort,
something
reasonable,
but
let's
so
the
strap
hole
is
to
get
on
a
future
council
agenda
or
action
on
the
ordinance
as
it's
been
presented
to
us
at
this
time.
A
I
I
don't
know
if
we
need
a
straw
poll
on
that,
I
think
we
can
just
make
sure
that
we
talk
to
engineering
and
ask
how
long
they
think
it
would
take
to
work
with
the
staff
and
and
work
on
some
of
this
language
and
then
make
sure
that
it
gets
back
on
a
future
agenda.
Item.
Okay,
and
I
think
that's
like
no
me
put
on
future
agenda
item
when
matt
has
the
language
okay,
so
I
the
straw
poll
then
again
is
putting
the
ordinance,
as
is
on
a
future
agenda
item
for
council
action.
A
Okay
that
passes
unanimously
now
as
to
this
second
part
matt
and
kimberly,
and
I
your
staff
and
blake,
I
skipped
over
you
and
I
apologize.
I
know
that
you
raised
your
hand
at
some
point.
Was
there
something
you
wanted
to
add
before
I
move
on.
P
That
is
just
fine,
chair
feller.
I
was
just
gonna
pop
in
before
that
motion
to
just
kind
of
recognize
that
you
know
just
hearing
and
reflecting
back.
I
feel
the
desire
for
an
ordinance
that
spells
out
best
practices.
I
Role
is
working
with
kimberly
at
all
in
delivering
that
product
with
the
providers
maintaining
records
so.
P
If
I
just
was
hoping
to
kind
of
take
what
I'm
hearing
synthesize
that
regroup.
A
And
so
then,
I
think
going
back
to
matt
and
kimberly
and
and
blake
of
course,
in
years
staff.
What
would
be
a
reasonable
time
frame
to
revisit
the
undergrounding
portion
to
look
at
the
policy
that
we
have
in
place?
Maybe
add
some
of
the
the
things
that
you've
heard
today
as
far
as
their
actual
being
a
notice,
timeline
and
or
specificities
on
what
that
notice
might
look
like
to
come
back
to
another
work
session.
To
talk
about
that
is
kimberly,
be
realistic.
I'm
not!
M
And
I
know
that
we
rely
heavily
on
kimberly
she's,
the
one
that
drafted
the
ordinance
and
I'm
hoping
that
she's
going
to
be
able
to
chip
in
right
now
with
maybe
an
idea
of
how
long
it'll
take.
B
So,
chair
fowler,
I
recognize
this
as
an
important
issue
to
the
council
and
so
I'll
prioritize
it
you
know
with
me
or
my
office.
My
question
would
be
what
you
might
want
to
see
for
undergrounding,
that's
different
than
what
we
have
opposed.
B
We
have
proposed
for
above
grounding,
so
the
ordinance
as
written
says,
it's
a
pre
permit
notification,
adjacent
owners,
which
is
meant
to
be
sort
of
you
know
touching
in
every
direction
that
will
work
with
the
provider
on
on
what
kind
of
evidence
we'll
accept,
and
we
have
some
ideas
on
that
and
if
you
receive,
you
probably
didn't
have
time
to
look
at
it.
B
But
if
you
receive
verizon's
comments,
they
have
let
us
know
what
is
happening,
what
they
do
in
other
states
and
a
few
different
ideas
of
how
we
could
get
evidence
and
document
that.
So
I
guess
I
would
want
to
know
what
else
you
want
for
an
undergrounding
notice
or
how
they
might
be
different.
A
B
So
so
we
could
add
undergrounding
and
we
could
maybe
even
we
talk
about
the
detail
that
would
go
into
the
notice
and
we'll
make
sure
that
that
meets
the
the
council's
discussion
today.
B
B
A
O
Sorry,
I
know
we've
been
talking
about
this
forever.
I
I,
if
other
council
members
think
it's
important,
then
that's
fine,
but
personally
I
don't
care
whether
the
notice
happens
before
or
after
the
permit
is
issued
just
before
or
after
the
work
is
done,
and
if
the
per
the
notice
happening
between
the
time
the
permit
is
issued
and
before
the
work
starts,
means
that
we
can
put
the
onus
on
the
burden
of
proof
on
the
contractor.
Then
let's
do
that
instead
of
requiring
the
city
to
verify
it
before
we
actually
issue
the
permit.
O
For
above
ground,
work,
which.
A
Happens
is
including
into
the
ordinance
the
underground
work
just
so
that
we
can
actually
address
both
of
the
concerns
without
rewriting
something,
and
if
we
don't
care,
if
the
permit
comes.
If
the
notice
comes
before
after
the
permit,
with
the
underground
excuse
me
with
the
undergrounding,
then
it
sounds
like
kimberly
could
go
back,
maybe
tweak
a
couple
of
the
things
based
on
the
discussions.
A
We've
had
today
add
the
words
and
underground
work
or,
however,
it's
actually
like
technical,
there's,
probably
some
other
term
for
it,
and
then
we
can
address
the
whole
ordinance
as
a
package
that
would
include
permitting
notification
before
permitting
for
both
underground
and
above
ground,
with
sort
of
some
of
these
specificities
that
we've
talked
about
today.
O
It
seems
to
me,
like
the
reason
why
people
wanted
the
notification
for
the
cell
towers
before
the
permit
is
so
they
could
try
to
fight
having
a
permit
in
front
of
their
house,
but
it
sounds
like
they
can't
do
that
anyway,
like
the
laws,
don't
really
allow
them
to
fight
it
anyway,
so
functionally.
I
think
it
makes
a
difference.
N
I
think
if
I
sorry,
madam
chair
but
darren,
there's
a
huge
difference
because
after
the
permits
issued
there's
no
verification
what
they
do.
I
mean
I
can't
say
this
strongly
enough.
I
have
no
trust
in
them.
I'm
sorry
they
don't
even
follow
their
own
plans,
sometimes
darren,
unless
somebody
pulls
it
out
to
them
and
even
then
the
fines
weekend
levy
are
so
minimal.
There's
no
reason
for
them
to
be
pre
proactive
about
this,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
sort
of
the
really
negative
guy.
N
M
A
B
B
B
Whereas
if
you
required
notification
72
hours
before
construction,
they
would
get
very
specific
notice,
but
the
city
doesn't
have
a
way
to
verify
that
the
notice
has
been
given
before
construction.
So
we
have
to
trade
off
a
couple
of
things.
I
think,
if
we're
not
doing
a
notification
process,
okay,.
M
Matt,
the
best
leverage
we
have
is
the
issuance
of
the
permit
to
get
a
contractor
to
do
what
we'd
like
them
to
do.
They
like
them
to
do
issuing
the
permit
is
that
without
having
a
robust,
fine
program
that
is
of
the
permit
is
the
strength
that
we.
F
Cindy
is
the
council
also
requesting
that
they
address
the
fine
issue
so
that
you
it
has
teeth.
A
I
think
that
that's
an
excellent
idea,
but
to
your
point
earlier,
that
that
may
be
a
longer
conversation
and
we're
on
the
verge
of
potentially
having
an
ordinance
that
could
address
some
of
these
concerns,
albeit
maybe
not
in
the
entire
robust
way
that
we
would
want
them
to.
But
it's
a
starting
point
recognizing
that
ordinances
are
sort
of
like
onerous
to
change
later.
But
it
does
seem
to
me
anyway
that
the
the
fine
structure
might
be
a
longer
conversation
than
than
us
getting
something
in
place.
Now
that
could
address
at
least
part
of
these.
A
F
If
you
want
these
ordinances
to
be
successful,
that
would
just
we
can
keep
it
in
the
back
of
our
minds
and
see
if
see
what
kind
of
information
is
available
and
then
come
back
to
you,
but
make
that
don't
hold
anything
up.
Because
of
that
is
that
that
that's
entirely
separate?
Is
that
yeah,
I'm
hearing,
okay
got
it
thanks!
Matt.
M
That
is
our
plate
of
putting
together
a
I'll
call
an
ace
program,
a
fine
program.
It
is
one
like
that
is
heavily
restricted
by
the
state
and
state
code.
So
it's
I
think
it's
needed,
but
it's
it's.
It's
not
a
powerful
tool
notice.
You
have
to
give
them
notice.
First,
then,
it's
like
25
a
day
for
large
projects,
that's
very
fairly
impactful
to
the
contractors,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
have
something
in
place
to
be
able
to
use.
So
it's
something
I've
wanted.
A
So
I
think,
and
nick
I'm
gonna
get
to
you-
I
just
I
I
know
we
could
probably
keep
talking
about
this
forever,
but
whether
we
had
been
ahead
of
schedule
we're
now
behind
schedule.
So
I
think
that
we
can
come
back
to
this
and
I
think
that
we're
still-
and
if
I
see
like
real
adamant
head
shaking
of
nose,
I
think
that
what
I'm
hearing
is
we
still
would
want
to
look
at,
including
the
underground
language,
into
this
ordinance.
L
So
that
I
feel,
like
things
changed
since
the
straw
poll,
where
you
would
like
us
to
consider
the
undergrounding
now
and
come
back
with
the
the
permit
or
the
the
notification
pre-permit
with
specifics
as
much
as
possible,
and
we
will
do
that
as
quickly
as
human
possible.
Given
the
circumstances
of
everything
going
on.
L
A
Perfect
and
as
soon
as
we
have
that
we
will
put
it
on
an
agenda
and
we'll
probably
have
a
discussion
about
it
again
before
taking
action,
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
everybody's
on
the
same
page
before
taking
any
final
action.
Okay,
thank
you
thanks.
Everyone
all
right.
Let's
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
five,
which
is
our
library
budget
amendment
and
we
have
russell
from
council
staff,
jayce
ponting,
the
library,
finance
manager
and
peter
brumberg,
the
library
executive.
M
Director,
yes,
councilmember
fowler.
E
I'm
going
to
be
brief,
because
this
is
a
fairly
straightforward
budget
amendment
the
the
library
board
approved
the
proposed
budget
amendment
essentially
to
fund
a
variety
of
things
and,
and
it
includes
acknowledgement.
E
Help
set
up
an
equitable
and
equitable
internet
service,
as
it
were
other
and
and
the
other
major
thing
that
I
think
is,
is
the
money
to
work
to
finish
the
work
on
sprague
library
and
with
that
I'll
I'll
leave
it
to
you
know,
let
me
rephrase
that,
besides
peter
bromberg
and
jace,
there
are.
P
Good
to
see
you
thanks
thanks
so
much
for
making
some
time
on
the
agenda.
Here
we
have,
as
russell
says,
a
number
of
straightforward
requests.
Three
requests
in
our
general
fund
and
two
in
our
capital
fund
I'll
just
run
through
them,
and
if
we
have
any
questions,
the
first
one
is
a
request
for
170
895
dollars
for
our
continuation
of
our
master
facilities
planning
process,
and
then
we
want
to
pull
that
out
of
a
fund
balance
and
just
carry
that
forward
into
our
fy21
budget.
It
was
budgeted.
P
P
Our
30
thousand
dollars
for
earthquake
repair
we'd
also
like
to
pull
out
of
our
fund
balance.
The
library
sustained,
luckily
only
minimal
damage
during
the
march
earthquake.
If
you
can
believe
it's
almost
a
year
ago,
right
and
and
we
were
actually
able
to
do
many
of
the
repairs
ourselves,
but
we
did
need
to
hire
some
outside
contractors
to
replace
some
broken
glass
and
windows
and
partitions
throughout
the
main
library.
P
So
thirty
thousand
dollars
would
would
cover
that
for
us
and
the
the
last
in
our
general
fund
is
four
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
an
institute
of
museum
and
library
services
grant
and
that
money
is
coming
to
us
from
the
federal
government.
We
just
wanna
add
that
to
our
budget,
it's
not
pulling
anything
out
of
our
fund
balance
and
that's
from
the
institute
of
museum
and
library
services
and
it's
really
to
develop
a
model
for
decreasing.
P
I'm
sorry
for
increasing
digital
access
to
underserved
populations
in
our
community.
The
it's
we're
calling
that
our
digital
navigators
program
is.
We
actually
have
a
number
of
grant
funded
positions
who
are
focusing
on
providing
one-on-one
outreach
and
assistance,
particularly
focused
on
salt
lake
city's
west
side.
P
Neighborhoods
rose
park,
papa
grove
and
glendale
and
trying
to
holistically
address
this
digital
inclusion
process
so
that
we're
working
with
people
to
get
them
connected
to
free
internet
to
also
provide
them
with
devices,
whether
that's
hotspots
or
laptops
or
chromebooks,
but
also
providing
one-on-one,
coaching
and
training,
and
on
and
offering
ongoing
personal
support
working
individually
with
patrons
to
help
them
accomplish
their
goals.
So,
whether
that's
you
know,
education
or
workforce
development,
job
hunting,
accessing
government
programs
etc.
P
So
that's
that
request
I'll
also
just
mention
that
we
do
have
a
number
of
community
partners
in
that
grant,
including
university
neighborhood
partners,
swazo
business
center
and
catholic
community
services.
So
again
the
goal
is
just
to
to
help
get
people
connected
and
go
that
last
mile
with
them.
So
it's
not
just
here's
your
free
computer
or
your
free
internet
connection,
good
luck,
but
take
them
all
the
way.
P
As
far
as
our
capital
fund
there's
two
straightforward
requests:
one
is
our
sprague
renovation
and
we're
requesting
an
additional
and
five
thousand
dollars
needed
to
accommodate
some
construction
challenges
that
we
encountered
on
the
east
entrance.
So
it's
a
building
that
was
built
in
1928.
P
So
if
you,
you
come
up
against
some
surprises
there
and
another
30
000
to
fully
furnish
the
renovated
spray
branch,
so
a
total
of
135
000
out
of
our
fund
balance,
and
our
last
item
is
for
hvac
filtration
125
000,
and
this
is
really
for
the
safety
of
of
staff
and
patrons
we'd
like
to
expedite
the
installation
of
some
ionization
filtration
systems
and
our
hvac
units
across
all
of
our
eight
locations.
P
In
addition
to
mitigating
the
spread
of
covet
19,
these
systems
will
also
kill
mold
bacteria,
other
viruses,
reducing
allergens,
odors
smoke
particles,
etc.
So
any
can
I
answer
any
questions
for
anyone
on
council.
A
Thank
you,
peter
sounds
awesome.
The
program
sounds
great.
I
I
like
where
you're
headed
questions
concerns
comments.
Council,
members,
aaron.
O
Thanks
these
all
sound
like
great
things
worthy
of
the
budget
amendment
I
my
question
is:
how
do
we
get
better
and
informed
or
involved
in
that
master
facilities
planning
process,
and
how
do
our
constituents
get
better
involved
in
that?
What's
the
plan
for
engagement-
because
I
just
haven't-
heard
a
lot
about
it,
so
I'm
wondering
how
can
I
learn
more.
P
Yeah,
actually,
I
was,
I
think,
I
think,
councilman
mano.
I
I
saw
an
email,
I
don't
know
if
it
was
from
you
or
from
russell
yeah
I'd
love
to
set
up
a
time
and
talk
to
council
about
what
would
work
for
you,
I
mean
we
can
do
a
presentation
and
work
session,
I'm
also
reaching
out.
P
You
know,
as
I
do
annually,
to
set
up
kind
of
one-on-one
meetings
with
each
of
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
to
expect
with
budget
and
do
some
just
what,
where
we
are
with
whatever
planning
initiatives
we
have.
So
I
can
certainly
cover
that
one-on-one
or
in
small
groups
or
if
you
prefer,
to
have
a
more
formal
presentation
in
a
work
session.
So
I'll
look
for
some
feedback
or
guidance
from
you
on
that
and
as
for
constituents,
we
did.
P
We
did
public
engagement
in
the
very
beginning
of
the
process,
and
this
was
last
year
and
we
did
a
number
of
public
engagement
sessions.
I
think,
though,
that's
you
know
worth
revisiting
and
seeing
if
we
can
do
some
some
more.
You
know
covet
kind
of
happened
right
right
in
the
middle
here
and
then
it
the
the
project
lay
fallow
for
a
few
months,
and
then
we
were
regrouping
to
figure
out.
P
How
do
we
continue
to
do
this
in
a
digital
manner,
so
so
yeah
we're
certainly
open
to
doing
more
community
engagements,
whether
that's
through
virtual
meetings,
facebook
lives.
You
know
I
I
you
know,
and
but
we've
we've
been
in
the
stage
of
the
process
now,
where
we've
been
doing
sessions
with
community
leaders,
non-profits
faith-based
social
services
as
well
as
elected
officials,
appointed
officials
etc,
so
yeah.
So
I
don't
there's
nothing
scheduled
on
the
books
at
this
point,
but
certainly
we
can.
P
A
I
don't
any
other
questions
great,
I
don't
see
any
to
council
staff
whoever's
on
board
should
do
we
need
a
straw
poll
and
the
there's
not
a
it
says
tbd
for
both
the
public
comment
and
the
council
action.
Do
we
need
to
put
those
on
future
agendas.
E
And
and.
A
Great
it's
perfect.
Thank
you.
I
guess
we
could
look
for
a
strap
hole
just
to
give
peter
and
his
his
team
an
idea
of
where
everybody's
sitting.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
give
us
a
straw
poll
on
this
budget,
amendment
for
the
lottery.
A
F
P
All
righty
well
thanks
again
for
your
time
and
thank,
I
also
want
to
just
thank
russell
for
his,
as
always
he's
always
helpful
in
shepherding
us
through
and
figuring
out.
You
know
which
steps
to
take
so
thanks.
Everyone.
A
All
right
budget-
I
mean
budget
item
number
six,
a
resolution.
This
is
a
follow
up
with
our
hud
fund
funding
monies.
So
I
think
we've
got
ben
lucky
here
has
been
here.
K
A
You
got
it:
okay,
we've
got
ben
and
then
I
think
we
have
blake
blake
thomas.
Our
can
director
and
lonnie
the
hand
director
jennifer
schuman
hand,
director,
deputy
director,
tony
milner
and
policy
program
manager,
but
I
will
turn
it
over
to
ben
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
That's
all
right
with
everyone.
I
see.
Lonnie
has
her
puppy
in
her
office.
K
K
The
council
requested
additional
information
on
residents
that
would
be
served
for
the
different
organizations
that
could
receive
the
unallocated
funds
target
areas
if
any
and
potential
funding
splits.
Between
those
organizations
hand,
staff
has
been
talking
with
the
county
health
department
who
issued
an
equitable
distribution
of
vaccines,
requests
for
applications
to
see
if
some
of
those
applications
have
focus
areas
on
the
west
side
of
salt
lake
city
that
could
use
some
of
the
city's
remaining
funds.
K
My
understanding
is
hand
is
still
waiting
on
some
of
those
details
from
the
applicants
to
the
health
department,
as
well
as
some
details
on
the
application
applicants
that
the
city
has
been
working
with
and
how
they
could
use
the
additional
funds.
So
we
have
a
partial
update,
but
we're
still
expecting
more
information.
K
C
E
E
C
Please
lonnie,
thank
you
to
ben
he's
been
very
helpful
in
trying
to
get
all
of
these
details
together
since
our
last
meeting
with
you
just
a
week
ago.
I
hope
that
you
all
are
able
to
see
this.
It's
kind
of
small
for
me
on
the
screen.
C
We
have
received
information
from
our
friends
in
salt
lake
city
sustainability.
Actually,
since
this
document
was
sent
to
ben
last
evening-
and
we
have
a
little
bit
more
information
as
far
as
trying
to
define
the
number
of
individuals
served
as
was
requested
during
our
conversation
last
meeting,
so
I
I
would
love
to
go
through
these.
If
you
want
to
talk
through
the
details
of
nourish
to
flourish
and
tony
could
speak
to
the
direct
conversations
he
and
his
our
team
have
had
with
each
of
the
different
applicants.
C
You'll
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
additional
revised
request
that
we
have
more
ask
now
than
we
have
monies
so
we're
back
more
into
the
typical
realm,
with
our
hud
funding
request
and
that's
in
the
cdbg
section,
and
if
you
wouldn't
mind
scrolling
down,
I'm
not
sure.
If
it's
bobby
that's
running
the
screen
under
esg,
we
are
closer
to
the
amount
of
unallocated
funding
with
just
a
about
five
thousand
dollar
difference,
based
on
the
requests
from
our
folks
at
soap
to
hope
and
with
volunteers
of
america.
C
A
Thank
you
lonnie.
Sorry,
my
computer,
frozen
whatever
we're
back
ish.
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
line
by
line
it's
pretty
self-explanatory
for
me,
but
I
think
I'll
just
open
it
up
to
counsel
for
comments
and
questions,
and
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
hand
staff
for
getting
this
done
so
quickly.
A
That
was
a
lot
of
work
in
a
week.
So
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
council
members
for
thoughts.
E
I
have
a
question
there,
yeah
on
the
nourish
to
flourish.
They
are
proposing
to
serve
62
000
meals
in
800,
116
841718
for
104..
How
have
they
distributed
like?
How
does
that
work?
They
I
know
that
they
hire
small
businesses
to
provide
the
food
and
then
who,
where
does,
who
who
like,
how
that's,
how
is
it
distributed?.
Q
Yes,
good
question,
so
it's
my
it's
my
understanding
that
they
basically
don't
take
any
administrative
costs
or
any
staffing
costs.
They
basically
are
just
the
conduit
between
what
they
do.
They
said
that
for
this,
if
they
were
to
receive
funding,
they
would
actually
partner
with
local
salt
lake
city,
restaurants,
to
then
provide
meals
at
distribution
sites
at
various
in
connection
with
different
non-profit
partnerships,
say,
for
example,
we
talk
community
action,
neighborhood
house,
and
so
they
set
up
distribution
sites
and
they
just
kind
of
connect.
E
So
so
this
so
I
saw
the
community
action,
they
they
have
clients
and
then
people
those
clients
will
be
receiving
this
food
all
right
and
then
the
on
the
other
one.
On
the
I
can
remember
the
name
for
the
esg,
the
one
that
says:
outreach,
they're.
So
clear,
I'm
sorry
I
don't.
I
don't
know
how
to
read
them.
C
Q
So
good
question
so
they're
a
newer
service
twitter
here
in
salt
lake
in
salt
lake
county,
they
are
fairly
new.
They
do
have
everything
set
up,
that
we
would
need
them
to
administer
federal
funding.
We
would
actually
be
working
with
them
really
closely
to
kind
of
bring
them
up
to
the
speed
of
data
collection,
data
entry
to
administer
a
federal
grant,
they
kind
of
specialize.
Q
Q
They
they
give
a
very
large
number
around
5200
to
serve,
but
then
again
to
the
way
we
wrote
the
applications
applicants
could
technically
apply
for
programs.
That
would
go
all
the
way
back
to
march
of
2020
all
the
way
through
september
of
2022
esg
funds
can
be
also
be
used,
county
wide,
which
then
then
kind
of.
Does
it's
a
larger
population
that
they're
going
to
be
running
into
a
larger
time
frame?
Q
But
then
we
would
also
work
really
closely
with
whoever
receives
funding
to
have
really
tight,
measurable,
accurate
outcomes,
outputs
that
are
just
kind
of,
and
really
just
kind
of
you
know,
because
this
is
their
ask,
but
then
we're
just
going
to
really
train
them
in
to
make
sure
that
it's
good,
accurate
and
measurable
for
any
type
of
funding
received.
A
Members
are
there
any
concerns
with
just
following
this
plan
sort
of
as
it
is.
We
do
have
a
potential
vote
on
this
on
the
16th.
That's
next
week,
right.
K
Two
questions
for
the
council:
the
cdbg.
There
is
a
forty
thousand
000
difference
between
available
funds
and
what
would
be
requested.
K
K
A
Yeah
thanks
ben.
I
saw
that
that
was
there.
I
just
want
to
get
money
out
the
door,
so
I
I
will
leave
it
to
council
members,
discussion
and
open
it
up.
I'd
rather
sort
of
have
some
of
that
discussion
right
now,
so
we
could
be
prepared
to
vote
sooner
rather
than
later.
A
I
know
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
I'll
get
to
both
lonnie
and
and
tony
here
in
assad
a
little
bit
of
time
before
the
deadlines,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
right
up
against
a
deadline
and
panicking
that
we're
not
spending
this
money
so
that
those
are
just
my
concerns.
I
will
open
it
up
to
council
members,
but
first
either
lonnie
or
tony.
C
Q
I'm
sure
lonnie,
maybe
was
going
to
say
the
exact
same
thing.
We
just.
We
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
sustainability
did
get
in
an
updated
budget.
Q
It's
a
it
was
a
very
complicated
budget
that
they
had
to
pull
together
because
they
have
a
couple
different
partners,
unidas
united
way
and
international
rescue
committee,
so
they
had
to
work
really
closely
with
them,
so
they
did
put
forward
an
additional
increase
as
well
and
they're.
Interesting
too,
is
because
then
they're
providing
food
boxes.
Q
They
partner
with
local
wholesalers
that
are
here
in
town
that
have
connections
to
refugee
community
startups
and
they
so
wholesale
food
boxes,
so
just
kind
of
that
separation
between
nurse
to
flourishes,
meals,
the
other
one
from
sustainability,
would
be
food
boxes,
but
we
and
we
can
provide
that
information
to
council
and
we
greatly
apologize
that
we
didn't
have
that
sooner.
A
E
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
this
is
awesome.
I'm
I'm
glad
we
have
this
problem,
then
we're
trying
to
find
out
what
to
do
with
900
000.
This
is
this
is
nicer
to
have
this
problem
with
the
40
000
over
now.
Would
you
what's
your
recommendation,
nourish
the
flourish
and
the
the
other
food
distribution
or
the
vaccine?
If
you
had
the
choice.
C
I
I
thought
that
maybe
council
member
dugan
would
ask
this
question
this
week.
So
we
have
not
enough
information,
I
think,
to
be
able
to
say,
go
ahead
and
recommend
or
or
feel
comfortable
with
enough
detail
on
the
vaccination
piece.
C
And
the
sustainability
request
actually
puts
us
into
a
lot
more
requests
than
you're,
seeing
on
the
the
current
sheet.
That
bobby
has
so,
I
feel,
like
the
vaccination
part,
is
probably
a
third
tier
in
the
in
the
nourish
to
flourish
or
the
sustainability
foods,
food
delivery,
emergency
food
delivery,
question
yeah.
M
E
C
E
That's
how
I
was
leaning.
I
was
just
seeing
if
that
was
the
same
recommendation,
because
I'm
looking
at
hey,
I
love
the
nursery
first,
but
you
know
if
you,
however,
sustainability
comes
in,
you
know
you
split
it.
However,
it
does
it
to
serve
the
most
people
because
I
think
that's
very
helpful
and
if
you
could
take
the
extra
five
grand
you
have
from
the
esg
to
throw
it
into
that
bot
too
that'd
be
great,
but
I'm
not
sure
you
can
do
that.
E
So
I'm
I'm
all
for
helping
the
restaurant
and
helping
the
underserved
with
meals.
I
really,
I
think,
that's
great
and
I
my
understanding
would
be
there's
probably
enough
funding
on
the
vaccination
side
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
on
the
vaccines.
But
that's
my
that's
my
position.
E
E
So
if
there's
a
there's
a
deficit
on
the
cdbg
ones
of
forty
thousand
dollars
like
we,
the
way
I
understand
it
is
like
we
need
to
come
up
with
40
000.
Now,
no.
A
Well,
we
just
decide
if
we're
gonna
spend
all
four
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
in
one
program
or
split
that
four
hundred
sixty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
into
potentially
three
programs:
okay,
because
sustainability
now
has
a
proposal,
a
budget
proposal
idea
for
us
that
they
just
got.
Understandably-
and
you
know
I
think,
from
our
discussion
last
time-
tony
mentioned
that
you
had
reached
out
to
these
guys
and
norris
deflourish
had
said
we'll.
A
They
had
the
capacity
to
take
all
of
the
money
right,
and
so
we
had
asked
them
to
come
back
with
a
few
more
answers
to
some
of
our
questions
like
what
would
all
of
the
money
mean,
and
that
was
here
and
then
when
they
reached
out
to
other
people,
they
were
like.
Oh
maybe
40
000
would
work
right,
and
so
these
are
just
the
proposals
and
then
I
think
we
just
need
to
decide
how
we
want
to
split
that
468
900,
knowing
also
that
sustainability
has
a
proposal
as
well.
A
So
I
mean
technically,
if
we
had
a
million
dollars,
it
sounds
to
me
like
norrish.
To
nourish
to
flourish
would
say
we'll
take
it
off,
but
I
think
that
there's
there
may
be
a
way
to
balance
that
between
the
three
programs.
If
all
three
of
those
programs
are
what
the
priority
of
the
council
is
for
that
money,
I
think
that's
the
question
that
we're
at
right
now.
A
No,
the
forty
thousand
dollars
comes
from
the
community
partners,
the
the
county
health
department,
community
partners
for
equitable,
I
mean
the
idea
is
equitable
distribution
of
a
vaccine.
A
Q
Yes,
so
their
total
increase.
They
originally
asked
for
141
000,
but
then
they've
done
an
increase
up
to
392,
but
then
they
did
also
want
to
express
too
that
they
could
even
go
higher.
They
do
have
the
capacity
as
well.
They
want
council
to
know
that.
A
A
Okay,
so
again,
I
think,
there's
I
don't
think
the
numbers
are
that
there's
eight
468
nine
hundred
dollars,
norrish
defleurs-
will
take
it
all
if
we
give
it
to
them.
There's
a
request
from
sustainability
of
251
000
and
a
potential
request
from
a
request
from
I
think
it's
the
county
health
department
is
that
right,
tony
the
county
health
department
for
forty
thousand.
A
N
I
might
have
missed
this
somewhere
in
the
middle,
but
do
we
have
any
details
from
sustainability
about
their
food
delivery
concept
and
how
it
may
overlap
with
marsha
flourish
or
other
utah
food
bank?
Those
kind
of
things.
Q
So
great
question,
so
I
asked
that
specifically
so
thankfully
they're
not
competing
against
another
other
food
banks,
they're
not
becoming
another
food
bank
and
tapping
into
the
the
state
food
bank
system.
This
is
completely
new
and
again
food
meal
boxes
versus
nurse
to
flourish,
which
would
be
meals.
Q
Q
So
they
have.
I
forget,
I
want
to
say
it's
like
new
roots.
There's
one
organization
called
new
roots
and
I
believe,
there's
another
one.
Apparently
they
both
are
have
connections
to
new
american
startups
for
food
wholesale
or
food
production.
So
they
would
partner
directly
with
them
for
again
healthy,
culturally
sensitive,
culturally
relevant
food
boxes,
depending
on
the
population
that
they're
going
to
be
serving.
N
All
right,
madam
chair,
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
perhaps
to
hit
multiple
bases
with
his
money.
If
we
can
hit
multiple
populations
and
types
of
food
would
make
sense
to
me.
So
I
would
recommend
carving
out
some
of
the
money
for
the
sustainability
project
nourish
to
flourish,
and
we
still
do
that.
40
000
for
the
other
community
partners.
A
A
So
if
you
take
the
468
nine
four
four
hundred
sixty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
and
minus
the
forty
thousand,
that
leaves
us
with
four
hundred
thousand
four
hundred
twenty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred.
To
be
quite
honest,
you
could
probably
just
split
it
in
half
and
everybody
gets
a
piece
of
the
pie.
A
N
Madam
chair
does
mayor
have
any
thoughts
at
all.
A
I
texted
aaron
to
see
and
if
madame
air
wants
to
chime
in
at
all,
I
I
think
sure
that's
up
to
you
mayor
I'll.
G
Just
add
that
I
think
we
all
share
in
the
desire
to
assist
in
the
vaccine
distribution,
but
it
seems
that
there's
a
sort
of
a
premise:
unspoken
that
if
there
were
more
money
going
to
the
county,
they'd
be
able
to
distribute
it
faster.
But
I
don't
believe
that
that's
actually
the
limiting
factor
here.
So
there's
a
lot
of
need
with
the
community
organizations
we're
talking
about,
and
I
totally
share
and
wanting
to
speed
that
process
up.
But
money
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
lever
controlling
that.
A
So
we
could
just
split
the
468
900
two
ways
and
give
it
to
the
two
programs
that
have
asked
for
it
in
that
in
a
way
that
is
a
proposal
that
seemed
to
have
really
good
ideas
and
ability
to
track,
which
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
tony
mentioned
with
the
county
health
department
is
that,
with
these
federal
monies
we
have
to
track
everything
pretty
pretty
closely
and
that
there
might
be
some
with
the
county
in
tracking
that
program
did.
I
did
I
make
that
up
tony,
or
did
you
actually
say
something
like
that?.
A
N
N
I
would
request
we
just
make
sure
we
have
clear
information
from
sustainability
about
their
process
and
using
community
partners
for
this
food.
So
we
can
make
sure
it's
clear,
the
community
how
this
is
working.
A
Okay,
so
what
I'm
hearing
is
too-
and
maybe
I
heard
this
wrong
to
just
split
the
468
900
two
ways
into
the
two
food
sustained
food
and
security
programs
and
if
there's
more
money
to
help
with
vaccines
later
on,
we
can
deal
with.
It
then
does
that
seem
right,
I'm
getting
thumbs
up
great
and
then
the
only
other
issues
there's
four
thousand
dollars
left
over
somewhere,
but
we
might
be
able
to
spend
that
before
the
deadline
comes
and
still
take
action
on
what
we
have
budgeted
and.
N
A
Yeah,
I
think
so,
okay
great
again
really
want
to
thank
hand
for
your
hard
work.
Quick
turnaround
on
all
of
this.
So
thank
you
and
I
think
we're
good
with
this.
A
Okay,
our
next
item
of
business
is,
let
me
go
check,
item
number,
seven,
an
update
on
the
windstorm
budget-
and
I
believe
lisa
alluded
to
this
in
her
updates
a
little
earlier,
but
at
the
table
we've
got
jennifer
and
mary
beth,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
jennifer
hi.
C
C
So
it's
slightly
unusual
because
the
council
did
act
in
a
budget
amendment
earlier
this
this
fiscal
year
to
approve
a
lump
sum
to
address
some
of
the
needs
that
are
obvious
around
the
city
for
the
wind
storm
and
not
wanting
to
delay
some
of
those
needed
fixes
and
at
the
time
the
administration
provided
their
best
estimates
as
to
how
the
money
might
be
used,
how
that
might
be
divvied
up
since
that
time.
The
administration
has
more
final
estimates
and
has
honed
in
on
what's
actually
needed.
C
So,
while
there's
not
a
need
for
the
council
to
act
in
a
budget
amendment,
because
the
total
will
still
be
in
the
same
place
in
the
budget-
and
it
will
still
be
one
lump
sum
to
sort
of
can
be
consistent
with
best
practices
and
transparency,
the
administration
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
come
back
to
the
council
and
explain
how
those
things
changed
and
make
sure
that
the
council
was
okay.
With
those
changes,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
marybeth
for
those
details.
C
How
about
now
is
that
better?
Yes,
okay,
good
too
many
buttons
too
many
things
to
push
thanks
jennifer
for
that
you
did
a
fantastic
job.
So,
on
budget
amendment
number
three,
that's
when
we
requested
the
funding
for
the
windstorm,
we
requested
5
million
000
in
the
write-up.
We
broke
out
several
different
areas
of
what
we
were
estimating
that
we
needed
for
funding.
C
Since
that
time,
we
have
have
found
two
additional
needs,
one
of
them
being
spring
sprinkler
repairs
from
trees
that,
in
the
in
the
right
of
way,
that
the
cities,
their
city,
trees
and
they've
damaged
residence,
sprinkler
systems.
So
that
would
be
one
of
the
areas
and
then
the
other
one
I
think
lisa
alluded
to
earlier
on,
which
was
the
cemetery
and
removing
of
the
and
reinstalling
the
monuments,
sod
replacement,
headstones,
curb
and
gutter
and
sprinkler
repair.
For
that
as
well.
C
Like
jennifer
stated,
we
didn't
have
to
come
back
to
the
council,
but
because
we
had
line
itemed
it
in
the
descriptions
inside
the
written
documentation.
We
felt
necessary
for
us
to
update
you
with
this
information.
A
A
We
sure
can
thank
you,
so
anybody
want
to
offer
a
straw
poll
to
approve
the
moving
around
of
the
already
appropriated
money
to
fix
the
things
that
need
to
be
fixed.
A
Great
all
those
in
favor
thumbs
up,
oh
james,
all
right
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
thanks
for
taking
care
of
all
of
that.
Thank
you.
Council.
You're.
Welcome,
good,
to
see
you
all
right.
We
have
a
couple
of
things
left
we're
almost
there
a
report
from
chair
and
vice
chair.
I
just
want
to
echo
something
that
anna
said
in
the
rda
meeting.
I
know
that
this
last
week,
or
so
has
been
very
difficult
for
our
city
family.
A
Over
almost
four
years
of
working
with
the
city,
it
really
does
become
a
family,
and
I
want
to
send
my
condolences
to
our
building
services
department,
everybody
that
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
gregory
and
send
our
condolences
to
his
family.
I
keep
reading
all
of
the
amazing.
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
work
a
ton
with
him,
but
I
keep
reading
all
of
the
amazing
stories
about
him,
and
I
know
that
he
was
a
dear
friend
to
many
people
in
our
city.
A
F
Yep,
just
one,
and
that
is
the
council
members,
some
of
you
at
least,
have
received
a
request
from
an
organization.
They
would
like
to
see
the
city
adopt
a
resolution
recognizing
and
expressing
support
for
covet,
19
victims
and
survivors,
and
they
would
encourage
you
to
adopt
a
resolution
recognizing
march
first,
as
cobud
memorial
day.
F
This
came
with
a
fairly
short
turnaround
time
because
you
don't
have
a
meeting
very
close
to
march
1st.
So
we
need
to
turn
it
around
for
the
16th.
If
the
council
is
interested
in
doing
this,
if
you'd
like
to
schedule
it
and
if
you
decide
you
would
like
to
what
we
would
do
is
get
a
draft
out
to
you
in
the
next
few
days,
so
that
we
can
get
that
on
your
agenda
and,
of
course,
coordinate
with
the
mayor's
office.
To
confirm
that
the
mayor
would
like
to
join.
I
F
I
don't
know
that's
what
their
request
is.
We
we
could.
We
could
certainly
ask
them
that
it's
the
email
is
from
the
smart
city
policy
group,
so
we
can,
we
can
sure,
find
out
more
about
it.
Sorry.
A
Cindy,
how
about
we
do
this
instead
of
a
straw
poll?
Can
I
ask
council
members
to
look
at
the
email
talk
with
staff
about
questions
and
by
the
end
of
the
week,
or
even
sooner,
if
you
can
as
soon
as
you
can
within
the
next
couple
of
days?
Let
staff
know
if
you're
interested
or
not
interested,
we'll
tally
up
and
go
from
there.
N
Andrew,
have
we
all
gotten
the
email.
F
I
will
double
check
and
in
fact
we
can
just
send
it
out
to
everyone
so
that
it's
bumped
up
higher
and
it
it
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
information.
F
So
I
I
I
don't
think
it
has
a
draft
of
a
resolution.
We
would
need
to
get
that
from
the
organization
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
proceed
and
tell
them
that
you
haven't
made
a
decision,
but
that
we
need.
You
know
to
prepare
just
in
case
so
we'll
get
that
and
then
we'll
get
a
draft
out
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
A
We
are
at
item
number
10.
We
do
have
a
closed
session
tonight.
It
is
for
the
purpose
of
discussing
collective
bargaining.
So
I
would
look
for
a
motion
to
enter
closed
session.
You
may
have
received
an
another
link
or
there
may
be.
I
don't
know
if
you
did
or
not,
but
just
stay
here.
A
In
this
meeting
we
will
ask
people
to
leave
that
are
not
that.
Do
not
need
to
be
in
the
closed
session
and
then
we
will
lock
this
closed
session.
So
I
need
a
motion
to
enter
into
closed
session
for
purposes
of
discussing
collective
bargaining.
E
Well,
no
mine
was
just
a
follow-up
question.
Will
we
be
coming
back
just
so
the
if
anyone's
following
along?
They
know
that
we're
not
correct.
A
Yes,
thank
you
james.
I
appreciate
that
no,
we
will
be
adjourning
our
meeting
after
the
closed
session.
So
this
is
the
end
of
our
open
meeting
session,
we'll
be
ending
after
a
closed
session.
I
I
move
that
we
go
into
our
closed
session
for
the
purpose
of
discussing
collective.