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Please
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if
we
have
anybody
that
would
like
to
do
so,.
B
Good
afternoon
board
chair,
we
had
some
speakers
today.
Our
first
speaker
will
be
casey
and
then
follow
by
tony
simrad
and
then
dale
rice
casey.
You
are
now
unmuted
right.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
used
this.
So
can
you
hear
me.
B
I'm
commenting
on
the
utah
theater
sales
agreement.
I.
D
It's
funny,
oh,
he
didn't
sound
that
spotty
to
me.
So
maybe
if
he
starts
talking
again.
B
As
a
test,
this
is
casey
mcdonough,
and
you
said
it
was
spotty.
How
was
that
coming
through.
B
Okay,
so
I
was
commenting
on
the
utah
theater
sale
agreement.
You
guys
probably
saw
my
email,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna
make
a
brief
statement
about
my
same
concerns
that
that
deal
is,
I
guess
I
don't
think
it
accommodates
for
all
the
value
that
is
being
given
away.
I
can't
track
down
one
comment
or
one
one
of
the
criticisms
that
was
made
in
a
utah
stories
article
about
the
developer.
I
guess
saying
they
can't
do
the
affordable
housing,
so
I'd
appreciate
it.
B
The
the
board
could
address
that
in
their
review
of
that
agreement.
Today,
okay,
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
let
that
theater
go
for
all
the
reasons
you
know,
probably
simply
the
land,
but.
B
A
B
B
A
All
right
well,
thank
you,
everybody.
Thank
you,
casey
for
providing
general
comment.
Are
there
any
other
comments
at
all?
You
said
nobody.
Is
there
correct.
A
A
Second
right,
we
have
approved
those
meetings
by
and
by
board
member
johnston
and
the
second
by
board
member
fowler.
I
will
have
to
roll
call
this
correct,
jen.
A
D
A
B
A
E
A
C
A
James
rogers,
yes
great.
Thank
you.
We're
moving
on
to
item
number
two
resolution
adopting
an
updated
rda,
art
policy
and
at
the
table
we
will
have
danny
waltz
and
the
world
considered
this
in
december,
but
because
of
concerns,
it's
on
again
to
confirm
the
action
today.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
members
of
the
board
these
next
two
items
are
exactly
that.
These
are
resolutions
that
the
board
did
adopt
in
december
due
to
noticing
issues
and
then
being
bumped
from
the
january
agenda
there
before
you
today,
just
for
confirmation
of
that
adoption
as
a
formality.
But
obviously,
if
there
are
any
questions
or
details
that
you'd
like
us
to
provide
we're
happy
to
do
that.
D
And
madam
chair,
we
would
just
need
a
motion
to
I
think,
ratify
is
the
or
confirm
is
the
language
I
apologize.
We
typically
show
motion
sheets
when
you
guys
are
getting
ready
to
adopt,
but
because
of
all
the
issues
with
the
vpn
and
centurylink,
we
are
not
able
to
show
those
motion
sheets
right
now,
so
we're
going
to
be
kind
of
winging.
It
apologies.
D
G
This
is
allison.
Yes,
I
would
recommend
that
you
guys
do
them
individually.
C
A
We
have
a
motion
by
member
johnston
and
a
second
by
board
member
mano
all
in
favor.
I
guess.
E
A
A
E
A
And
I'm
a
yes
go
ahead.
Mr
johnston.
A
Sorry,
andrew
and
so
that
passed
unanimously,
we
do
have
a
motion
for
resolution.
Housing
allocation.
D
C
A
A
B
A
Yes,
dugan.
E
A
And
mano
man,
I'm
trying
to
sorry
you
guys,
okay,
I
have
it
written
down,
so
I'm
following
chris's
lead
when
he
writes
his
down,
so
I
can
name
all
of
you
all
right
so
again
that
passes
unanimously
we're
moving
on
to
item
four-
and
this
is
an
informational
item
about
housing
development,
loan
program
policy.
Now
the
table
we
have
council
staff,
alison
roland
rda
staff,
danny
waltz
and
tammy
hunsaker.
A
B
You
know
I
will
just
mention
that
I
sent
a
an
email
to
board
members,
probably
yesterday,
and
I
just
resented
a
few
minutes
ago,
just
following
up
on
some
questions
that
chair
baldomoros
and
vice
chair
dugan
had
on
how.
B
D
F
Awesome,
thank
you
allison.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
going
to
turn
the
time
over
directly
to
tammy,
who
has
the
presentation
to
queue
up
and
and
go
through,
and
this
is
the
ongoing
conversation
that
we've
had
with
the
board
and
following
up
on
the
resolution
you
just
passed
for
the
housing
funding
policy
and
tammy.
If
you're
ready,
you
can
take
it
away.
F
H
Great
moving
on
so
this
discussion
began
actually
a
couple
of
years
ago
now,
when
the
board
provided
some
direction
to
rda
staff
to
adopt
an
rda
housing
allocation
funds
policy,
which
is
actually
the
policy
you
just
adopted,
and
if
you
may
remember,
this
is
the
policy
that
sets
up
the
different
housing
accounts
by
source
of
fund.
H
So
we
have
tax
increment,
that's
mandatorily
set
aside
for
affordable
housing
in
one
fund,
a
discretionary
tax,
increment
fund,
a
fund
for
the
northwest,
quadrant
or
the
inland
port,
housing
monies,
and
then
a
fund
for
other
city
funds
such
as
the
sales
tax
fund.
H
So
the
next
step
in
this
process
is
the
policy
that
you
have
today
in
your
packet.
The
policy
resolution
is
in
draft
form.
This
is
just
a
preliminary
review
and
briefing,
but
the
intent
of
this
policy
is
to
create
that
one-stop
shop
program
for
developers
to
actually
access
the
funds.
H
So,
on
the
back
end,
the
housing
development
loan
program
will
be
funded
by
the
different
sources
that
are
now
set
up
through
the
policy
you
just
adopted,
but
as
far
as
the
public
goes
and
the
developers
go,
it's
just
one
program
and
one
application
and
underwriting
process
to
access
so
diving
into
the
details
we
have.
The
policy
is
really
set
up
to
be
flexible
on
an
annual
basis,
so
how
we've
structured
it
is.
H
There
are
intense
statements
that
are
intended
to
be
longer
term
to
kind
of
live
with
the
policy
as
it
as
time
goes
on,
but
we're
proposing
to
bring
an
annual
funding
priority
and
allocation
plan
annually
to
the
board,
and
this
is
because
the
city's
housing
plan
is
a
five-year
housing
plan,
so
that
will
change
relatively
often
over
time
and
then
also
conditions
and
needs
within
the
community
change.
So
we
want
to
be
flexible
with
how
we
target
funding
on
an
annual
basis.
In
addition,
there
could
be
strategic
opportunities.
H
H
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
read
the
intent
statements.
These
are
the
overarching
statements,
but
I
think
they're
important
to
review
in
detail
and
there's,
I
think
about
seven
of
them.
The
first
one
is
provide
a
mix
of
affordable
housing
serving
a
range
of
household
and
income
levels,
consistent
with
income
limits
and
affordability,
requirements
for
each
funding
source
to
promote
housing.
H
H
We
can
combine
multiple
funding
sources
into
one
nofa
or,
for
example,
if
one
year
we
had
a
lot
of
funding
for
from,
like
the
inland
port
or
the
northwest
quadrant
money
that
we
wanted
to
target
for
a
specific
type
of
housing.
We
could
issue
one
unique
nofa
for
that
funding
source,
we're
anticipating
that
nofas
could
be
offered
annually
just
one
time
per
year
to
a
big
nofa
or
multiple
times
per
year,
depending
on
what
we're
targeting
the
policy
does
have
basic
eligibility
requirements.
H
These
are
pretty
standard
and
a
lot
of
the
requirements
point
back
to
the
requirements
of
the
specific
source
of
funding.
Just
the
types
of
projects
we
will
fund.
The
ami
applicants
need
to
demonstrate
a
financial
gap
in
the
project
and
that
that
gap
is
reasonable
and
necessary
for
the
project
to
succeed.
H
We're
proposing
the
interest
rate
would
be
three
percent
if
there's
a
hard
debt
service
repayment,
four
percent
for
cash
flow,
just
because
it's
riskier,
but
we
are
proposing
interest
rate
reductions
that
would
be
based
on
the
annual
funding
priorities,
so
applicants
if
they
need
a
lot
of
those
interest
rate
reductions,
they
could
get
the
interest
rate
down
to
a
minimum
of
one
percent,
we're
also
looking
at
providing
property
acquisition
loans.
These
would
be
shorter
term
loans
up
to
24
months.
H
We
would
require
that
the
maximum
amount
of
assistance
would
be
90
of
the
loan
to
the
appraised
value
of
the
current
land.
So
we'd
provide
up
to
90
of
that
at
a
3
interest
rate
with
those
same
ability,
the
same
ability
to
reduce
the
interest
rate
based
on
funding
priorities,
as
determined
for
that
year.
H
We
are
also
proposing
gap
financing
for
home
ownership
projects
a
little
bit
similar
to
the
property
acquisition
structure.
It
would
be
a
shorter
term
loan.
This
one
would
be
36
months.
The
repayment
structure
for
this
loan
would
be
based
on
sales
of
the
four-cell
housing
units,
so
the
loan
would
be
paid
off
as
the
developer
sells
the
units
we
have
done
this
a
couple
of
times
recently
structure
these
loans
with
the
rda
loan
program
and
it's
a
great
way
to
help
start
assisting
homeownership
projects
in
the
community.
H
The
standardized
evaluation
and
approval
process
would
include
four
steps,
which
would
include
first,
an
eligibility
eligibility
review
by
rda
staff
to
make
sure
all
those
basic
requirements
are
met,
and
then
we
would
have
all
of
the
applications
reviewed
by
a
review
committee
that
shall
be
comprised
of
experts
and
professionals
in
the
field
as
well
as
rda
and
city
staff.
H
We
are
currently
in
discussions
with
hand
on
exactly
the
process
and
collaboration
on
how
this
will
happen
because
hand
has
loans
through
some
of
their
federal
grant
programs.
That
would
also
need
monitoring,
so
we're
talking
about
collaboration
and
coordination
on
a
larger
scale
between
the
two
entities,
and
that
is
the
end
of
my
presentation.
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any.
E
Tammy
yeah,
I
have
two
questions
for
you
on
the
intense
side
of
the
house.
You
talked
about
sustainability
and
building
requirements
on
the
intent,
and
then
we
have
design
on
the
basic
eligibility.
E
Is
there
a
need
to
have
any
intent
on
the
green
on
the
sustainability
and
the
you
know,
pressing
towards
our
2030
of
you
know,
beans,
whatever
it
is,
zero
energy
or
our
energy
efficiency?
Is
there?
Is
there
a
reason
for
having
it
intended?
Should
we
all
be
just
in
the
basic
eligibility
on
the
green
design.
H
F
Yes,
and
I
think
to
answer
your
your
question
director
dugan
is,
I
think,
it's
both.
E
My
second
question
is
on
the
affordable
housing,
just
as
we
saw
in
the
the
theater
affordable
housing,
you
know
we,
we
asked
developers
for
10
of
the
affordable
housing
and
when
we
get
to
10
percent
of
you
know,
90
percent
of
them
are
all
studios,
and
I'd
really
like
this
to
break
it
down
more
to
percentage
of
of
unit
size,
because
we
yeah
studio
is
great,
but
we
need
to
start
focusing
on
some
families,
and
you
know
single
parent
families
who
have
a
couple
kids
and
they're
not
going
to
be
in
the
studio
they're
going
to
be
in
the
one
or
two
bedrooms.
H
D
Thank
you.
I'm
just
jumping
in
board,
chair
baldomoros,
is
having
some
serious
technical
issues,
so
she
logged
off
and
is
going
to
try
to
log
back
on
to
see
if
that
helps
so
surprise
to
vice
chair
dugan.
D
C
Start
well
and
it's
getting
situated.
I
had
a
couple
questions.
One
on
the
the
interest
rate
is
that
static
then,
and
we
update
that
every
year,
because
right
now,
a
three
percent
interest
rate,
maybe
isn't
that
great,
whereas
typically
a
three
percent
interest
rate
is
pretty
good
and
some
years
it
might
be
very
good.
How
does
that
change
from
year
to
year?
Do
we
as
a
board
readjust
that
or
is
it
somehow
fixed
to
the
index.
H
That
is
a
great
question
and
something
that
we
thought
a
lot
about.
Those
the
three
percent
interest
rate
came
from
what
the
housing
trust
fund
currently
does
the
rda
in
general
we
usually
tie
our
interest
rate
to
the
us
treasury
build,
but
in
doing
research
across
other
housing
trust
fund
programs
across
the
nation.
H
For
some
reason,
a
lot
of
housing
programs
have
a
static
interest
rate
and
it's
something
we
can
think
the
policy
is
still
very
much
in
draft
form.
We
can
think
through
a
little
bit
because
I
I
agree
with
you,
it
seems
like
it
should
somehow
be
tied
to
a
market
index,
so
we
can
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
that.
But
to
answer
your
question,
it's
it's
kind
of
the
current
practice
of
the
housing
trust
fund.
Right
now,.
C
Yeah,
I
I
would
advocate
for
a
rethinking
of
that,
just
because
interest
rates
have
fluctuated
so
much
and
right
now,
they're
so
historically
low
that
maybe
our
program's
not
that
attractive,
whereas
in
other
years
it
might
be
very
attractive,
and
maybe
they
won't
do
any
of
the
additional
interest
rate
reduction
sort
of
benchmarks
that
we
want
them
to
do,
because
the
three
percent
is
already
so
low.
C
C
My
second
question
is:
I
remain
pretty
somewhat
concerned
about
how
our
housing
policies
and
how
the
agency
is
supporting
development
at
all
scales-
and
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
this
before
and
that
within
the
policy,
the
nofa
could
be
written
to
sort
of
ask
for
different
types
of
housing.
C
C
Where
the
policy
that
we're
discussing
today
is
intended
to
be
flexible
and
if
we
want
to
prioritize
smaller
scale
versus
larger
scale,
one
year
over
the
other
that's
built
into
the
policy,
I'm
just
not
clear
as
to
when
we
would
have
that
discussion
as
to
how
we
want
to
write
the
nofa
in
order,
so
so
that
we
can
target
multiple
development
scales,
because
I
think
that's
important
both
for
the
urban
fabric,
but
also
as
an
agency
where
we're
supporting
the
development
of
of
housing,
but
we're
also
supporting
the
sort
of
financial
betterment
of
projects.
C
So
I
think
that
I
guess
I'm
just
confused
as
to
when
we'd
have
that
conversation.
Could
you
help
me
understand
that?
Please.
H
Yeah
the
way
we
envision
the
process
working
is
that
rda
staff
would
bring
the
housing
the
annual
housing
strategy
to
the
board
before
the
budget
process
begins.
So
it
could
be
a
discussion
that
happens
around
the
spring
of
each
year
and
then
the
final
budget
approval
would
still
happen
in
the
budget
process.
H
But
I
imagine
there
would
be
a
separate
resolution
that
would
be
approved
with
the
funding
priorities
for
that
year
and
then,
after
the
budget
is
approved,
is
when
it
would
be
an
administrative
function
that
we
would
then
write
a
nofa
according
to
those
priorities
and
issue
the
nofa.
But
I
I
do
hear
what
you're
saying
about
the
different
scale
of
development,
and
I
do
think
if
the
board
is
interested.
C
Thanks
yeah,
I'm
interested
in
that,
and
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
keep
I
keep
thinking
about
when
we
talk
about
this
is
given
that
we
could
issue
that
nofa,
either
annually
or
multiple
times
throughout
the
year.
I
think
smaller
scale
projects
might
not
work
on
an
annual
time
line,
because
the
project
doesn't
have
a
year
to
wait
for
the
next
funding
opening
it
either
will
just
if
it
doesn't
work
at
that
time.
C
F
And
if
I
could
jump
in
thanks
as
well,
director
mono-
I
think
I
think
tammy's
probably
the
expert
on
this,
but
I
think
the
other
possibility
to
consider
is
part
of
sending
those
funding,
priorities
and
allocations,
depending
on
how
we
want
to
define
or
encourage
the
smaller
scale
development
that
may
not
be
a
nofa
at
all.
That
may
be
a
line
item
allocation
for
something
like
encouraging
adus
or
an
entirely
different
track
of
how
we
make
funding
available
for
whatever
priority
you
set
as
a
board.
B
C
I
think
I'm
thinking,
for
instance,
well,
I
know
we
haven't
approved
it
yet,
but
things
that
would
fall
under
like
that
new
rmf
30,
where
it
might
be
a
fourplex
or
something,
and
if
we
could
get
half
of
those
as
affordable.
C
We
can
build
that
sort
of
missing
middle
housing,
but
also
hit
affordability
with
that,
and
I'm
just
worried
that
traditional
banks
might
have
a
hard
time
underwriting.
C
Some
of
these
new
housing
types
that
we're
potentially
allowing
within
our
city,
and
so
it
seems
like
the
agency-
might
be
a
good
place
to
fill
that
funding
gap
for
projects
that
are
potentially
new
or
untested.
B
C
B
Where
it's
it's
not
zoned
for
large,
it's
a
lot
too
small
and
I
think
it
would
make
sense
in
some
areas
to
target
certain
amounts
of
this
money
to
certain
types
of
developments
like
darren's
talking
about.
I
can
see
that
being
very
helpful
in
some.
B
A
All
right
anybody
else
have
a
question
about
this
piece.
Madam
chair,
yes,
go
ahead.
E
Along
similar
lines
on
the
when
we
talk
affordable
housing,
we
just
use
it
as
a
generic
conversation,
but
again,
along
with
the
a
lot
of
times
it's
80
or
less,
do
we
ever
or
when
do
we,
and
when
do
we
discuss,
say
we
want
to
have
x
amount
of
units
that
are
forty
percent
or
less
sixty
percent
or
less
than
eighty
percent
less
than,
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
that
out?
Because
I'm
unsure
of
any
of
that
that
those
decisions
and
when
we
make
those.
A
Yes,
that's
a
good
question.
I
I
have
the
same
question
so
danny
like:
when
can
we
have
those
conversations
or
is
that
something
that
we
set
in
policy
like
right
now
or
is
it
a
case
by
case
or
how
do
you
envision
that
the
affordability,
discussion
and
implementation
when
we
give
out
loans.
F
I
think
that's
a
great
question.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we
struggle
with
the
most
and
tammy
can
jump
in
here,
because
she
probably
has
some
even
better
thoughts
than
I
do.
But
for
us
it
starts
first
and
foremost
at
the
city's
housing
plan
and
and
obviously
building
off
of
what
the
intent
and
priorities
are
that
you,
as
a
council,
determine
for
the
city
in
general,
and
then
we
obviously
recognize
that
every
project
is
different
and
so
within
those
those
nuances
within
the
distinct
projects.
F
But
then,
as
it
relates
to
this
policy,
you
very
much
have
the
opportunity
to
set
those
priorities
every
year
with
the
funding
that
that
is
what
is
really
good.
With
this
policy
is,
we
are
setting
those
overarching
goals
and
intents
as
they
align
with
the
city's
plan,
as
well
as
our
project
area
plans,
and
then
we
are
providing
that
ability
to
be
flexible
based
on
either
what
we're
seeing
as
a
gap
or
what
is
not
being
brought
forth
in
the
market
or
what
we
just
feel
as
a
city.
F
We
want
to
prioritize
and
then
put
our
funding
towards,
and
so
answer
your
question
director
dugan.
That
would
come
to
you
as
part
of
our
report.
That
would
be
obviously
part
of
the
metrics
that
we
hope
to
provide
to
you
as
a
board
to
help
inform
you
of
what
is
happening.
What
the
agency
has
participated
in
also,
what
we're
seeing
is,
maybe
those
those
sensitive
points
within
the
market
and
then
that's
where
we
can
have
a
discussion
with
you
of
what
we
want
to
prioritize.
F
What
are
the
pros
and
cons
of
that
where
we
think
we're
going
to
get
the
most
success,
and
then
you
as
a
board,
can
then
determine
where
you
want
to
put
the
funding
and
whether
you
want
to
do
that
as
a
nofo,
a
program
open-ended
funding
source
or
anything
else
we
can
come
up
with.
That
is
where
we
really
are
trying
to
design
this
to
where
we
can
be
more
responsive
and
more
successful
with
how
we're
putting
our
money
out
on
the
street
tammy
tell
me
what
I
got
wrong.
H
E
A
That
and-
and
I
have
a
question
on
that-
I
think
on
your
presentation-
tammy,
I
think,
was
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
item-
seven,
I
think
or
not-
which
item
it
was.
But
when
you,
when
you
said
we're,
gonna,
have
to
monitor
this
from
what
what
I
hear
from
the
community
is
that
we
haven't,
like
the
city,
hasn't,
been
able
to
really
enforce
or
enforce
on
this
affordable
units.
A
If
we,
you
know,
we
give
loans,
and-
and
maybe
you
know,
these
affordable
units
are
not
happening
or
happen
for
a
little
bit,
but
then
they
go
back
to
market
rate
parental.
So
what's
the
mechanism,
how
are
we
going
to
make
sure
that
this
rule
units
are
actually
being
built
and
being
utilized
and
for
whatever
period
it
is?
How
do
we
know
that
it's
actually
happening.
H
The
state
department
that
oversees
those
tax
credits
does
a
very
thorough
monitoring
annually
of
those
projects,
and
we
always
require
access
to
those
reports
so
that
the
trickier
ones
are
the
more
creative
ones
that
we've
been
funding
that
don't
have
any
other
source
of
affordable
housing
in
them.
So
we
need
to
develop
a
better
system
to
do
that,
monitoring
and
compliance
on
an
annual
basis,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
working
that
out
with
hand
but
to
date
to
be
honest.
H
Most
of
the
projects
that
have
been
constructed,
constructed
and
are
in
place
are
those
tax
credit
projects
that
have
been
being
monitored
by
a
different
agency,
so
we're
just
coordinating
on
how
to
be
better
at
our
own
projects
and
and
moving
forward
with
those.
I
think
I
would
defer
to
allison
on
what
legal
remedies
we
have
if
they
do
default,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
so
for
every
affordable
housing
project,
we
record
a
restrictive
use
agreement
and
that
restrictive
use
agreement
runs
the
length
of
the
affordability
period,
which
is
typically
50
years.
H
Our
loans
are
typically
for
affordable
housing
around
years.
So
if
they
aren't
doing
the
things
they
should
be
doing
with
affordable
housing
compliance
during
the
term
of
the
loan.
That
would
be
a
default
on
the
loan
and
there
are
different
remedies
that
or
legal
processes
we
could
go
through
with
the
loan
after
the
loan
is
paid
off,
it's
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
there
is
still
that
restrictive
use
agreement
that
is
tied
to
the
land.
G
Okay,
yeah,
that's
right.
Tammy
tammy
obviously
did
a
great
job
of
explaining
that
I,
the
only
thing
that
I'll
add
to
what
tammy
said
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
restrictive
use
agreements,
most
of
our
most
of
the
loans
also
have
a
restrictive
use
and
right
to
repurchase
and
the
right
to
repurchase
is
an
enforcement
mechanism
that
the
rda
has
to
ensure
that
those
affordability
benchmarks
are
being
met.
G
But
I
will
say
those
also
apply
to
other
public
benefits
that
the
rda
requested
so,
for
example,
with
the
255
state
street
project
that
we
just
closed
on.
There
was
an
affordability
piece,
but
there
was
also
the
public
access
easement
and
the
historic
renovation
and
activation
of
the
kramer
house,
and
all
of
that
was
recorded
in
a
restricted
use,
agreement
and
right
to
repurchase.
A
So
what
you're
saying
that
we
do
have
illegal
recourse?
Do
you
guys
thought
that
that's
sufficient,
so
that
we
do
get
this
affordable
housing
unit
for
as
long
as
has
been
agreed
upon,
or
is
there
anything
else
we
can
do
to
to?
You
know
to
to
send
a
message
that
we're
serious
like
we
really
want
our
dollars
to
go
to
the
you
know
to
the
affordable
housing
units
and
that
they
stay
like
that
for
as
long
as
we
need
it
to
be,
or
do
you
think
this
is
good
enough?
G
Yeah
I
we
can
talk
about
this
more
too.
I
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
complicated
issue
it.
It
is
a
very
strong
tool
that
the
city
has
and
the
rda
has
to
repurchase
a
piece
of
property
after
someone's
already
developed
it,
that's
a
pretty
big
tool
that
we
have,
but
it's
complicated,
because
we're
also
navigating
the
relationship
that
the
lenders
have
with
or
the
borrowers
have
with
other
lenders.
G
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
that
we're
giving
the
other
lenders
an
opportunity
to
correct
anything
as
well.
Okay,.
A
Thanks
alison,
I
think
we
are
way
past
we're
like
11
minutes
past
this
item,
anything
else
from
anybody
else.
A
If
I
don't
see
or
hear
anybody
will
move
on
to
number
five.
Thank
you
tammy,
nelson
and
danny
for
that
alison's.
For
that,
let's
move
on
to
item
number
five:
it's
an
informational
item
as
well
disposition
of
real
property
for
block
70
project
area
development,
the
walker
center
follow-up.
So
this
one
is
something
that
we
needed
to
last
meeting.
We
did
it
to
take
action,
but
then
things
have
changed
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
we
explained
to
the
public
what
changed
and
why
we
don't
have
to
take
action.
F
Great
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
and
you
framed
it
very
well
that
this
was
an
item
that
came
before
the
board
last
month.
This
is
regarding
the
parcel
property
that
the
agency
owns
essentially
under
the
walker
center
parking
garage
on
regent
street.
It's
just
over
3000
square
feet
and
you'll
recall
that
last
month
we
brought
before
the
board
consideration
for
a
resolution
that
would
essentially
improve
the
write-down
of
the
property.
F
As
per
our
disposition
terms,
we
were
proposing
that
the
purchase
price
and
the
discount
be
approved
in
consideration
of
perpetual
easement
in
favor
of
the
agency,
for
what
is
the
utilization
of
the
property
for
our
trash,
compactor
and
backup
generator
that
serves
the
eccles
theater.
We
also
felt
that
it
was
practical
and
that
it
was
allowing
the
property
owner
to
consolidate
ownership
of
the
property
that
is
directly
under
their
building,
while
obviously
protecting
the
agency's
continued
use
of
it.
F
However,
in
our
follow-up
conversations
and
negotiation
with
the
property
owners,
they
have
indicated
that
taking
into
consideration
the
board's
desire
that
this
move
forward
in
a
more
market
rate
transaction
that
they
have
proposed
to
purchase
now
the
western
portion
of
that
property
at
fair
market
value,
which
is
essentially
9,
500
reason
the
value
is
so
low-
is
because
it
is
encumbered
with
a
perpetual
easement
that
really
just
serves
our
purpose
for
the
compactor
and
the
generator
also
keep
in
mind
that
walker
center
already
owns
the
air
rights
above
the
parcels.
F
But
what
this
does
is
this
no
longer
requires
board
action
for
approval,
but,
as
you
mentioned,
madam
chair,
we
wanted
to
circle
back
and
close
the
loop
in
terms
of
where
this
transaction
is
going
now
and
that
it
does
not
need
any
additional
steps
or
action
from
the
board.
But
we
wanted
to
notify
you
of
where
we're
at
with
that
negotiation
and
that
we
are
looking
to
move
forward
with
closing
on
the
property
by
the
end
of
the
month.
F
They
are
going
to
grant
us
that
perpetual
easement
for
for
the
eastern
parcel
and
they're
also
going
to
allocate
additional
space
for
the
agency
for
the
use
of
storage
to
serve
the
mccarthy
plaza
there
on
the
theater
property.
F
They
will
continue
their
obligation
to
build
out
the
eastern
parcel
for
a
lease
by
a
local
food
and
beverage
provider,
and
then
we
have
also
provided
within
that
the
opportunity
that
once
they
build
out
if,
for
whatever
reasons,
they
are
not
able
to
lease
the
space
that
we
as
an
agency,
have
an
option
to
lease
that
and
make
sure
that
it's
activated
and
so
beyond
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
or
allison
who's
been
involved
in
this
as
well,
can
provide
any
insight
on
on
the
status.
F
No
9
500.
it
the
the
value
because
of
of
the
air
rights
already
being
purchased
above
it,
and
then
the
fact
that
it's
right
now
being
utilized
for
the
trash
compactor
and
the
generator,
and
we
will
continue
to
hold
a
perpetual
easement.
It
really
has
almost
zero
value
for
the
property
on
it
because
they
can't
essentially
do
anything
with
it.
Okay,.
A
Oh
okay,
thanks
danny
we'll.
E
A
To
item
number
six:
it's
informational:
it's
the
update
on
sales,
pricing
terms
of
the
utah
theater
and
adjacent
retail
property
at
144-158
south
main
street
at
the
table.
It's
danny
tammy
and
lauren
parisi.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
directly
over
to
tammy
and
lauren,
who
have
a
presentation
to
provide
some
background
to
the
board
on
the
project,
as
well
as
update
on
the
terms
for
that
disposition,
and
then
some
additional
detail
on
one
of
the
contingencies
so
tammy.
Whenever
you're,
ready.
H
All
right
since
it's
been
a
while,
since
we
have
reviewed
the
utah
theater
or
the
board,
has
reviewed
the
utah
theater,
I
thought
I'd
give
a
little
bit
of
context.
Here
is
the
site.
This
is
main
street
utah
theater
is
the
property
in
red.
The
adjacent
property
owners
are
hinds
and
160
main
llc.
H
So
from
2010
through
2016.
We
explored
various
preservation
and
reuse
options
in
collaboration
with
different
consultants
and
interested
user
groups,
solidifying
anything
so
15,
wbc
pages.
H
So
we
began
that
collaboration
with
property
owners
and
in
2015
the
rda
determined
that
it
was
very
true
barriers,
including
the
significant
significant
public
benefit
or
public
investment.
That
would
be
required
to
bring
the
structure
up
to
current
building
and
seismic
code,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
a
viable
end
user.
So
in
2019,
heinz
acting
as
the
lead
developer,
proposed
the
construction
of
a
mixed-use
tower
that
is
approximately
370
feet
high
with
commercial
and
residential
uses,
and
includes
affordable
housing,
public
space,
historic
repurposing
of
theater
elements,
structured
parking
and
public
art.
H
So
in
it
was
december
3rd
of
2019,
the
board
approved
a
resolution
authorizing
the
sales
pricing
terms
of
so
the
land
right
down
for
the
property.
So
long
as
certain
public
benefits
are
incorporated
into
the
project,
those
public
benefits
include
affordable
housing.
A
minimum
of
10
percent
of
the
units
shall
be
affordable
to
80
ami,
the
60
ami,
a
mid
block,
walkway
off
of
main
street.
That
extends
into
the
interior
of
the
block
and
historic,
repurposing
and
reclamation
of
theater
elements.
H
H
But
we
are
working
with
the
developer
on.
There
will
be
an
easement
requiring
public
access
on
the
public
space,
so
that's
just
a
little
teaser
to
what
will
come
at
a
future
meeting.
But
the
real
intent
of
our
briefing
today
is
to
get
into
the
historic
documentation
which
lauren
will
go
through
and
I
can
flip
through
your
slides,
lauren.
B
I
Thank
you.
Okay.
So,
in
march
of
2020,
the
rda
released
the
request
for
proposals
for
the
historic
documentation
of
the
utah
theater,
as
tammy
described,
was
a
contingency
of
the
landscape
and
sale
and
just
the
as
a
reference.
The
utah
theater
is
historically
known
as
the
pantages
theater
named
after
the
original
property
owner
alexander
pantages,
who
was
a
theater
mogul
in
the
area,
so
the
theaters
comes
as
the
utah
theater
and
the
pantages
interchangeably.
I
I
So
as
a
part
of
this
project,
modern
out
west
was
able
to
update
the
intensive
level
survey
for
the
property
to
the
state,
historic
preservation
offices
standards,
and
this
included
a
lot
of
research
and
compiling
of
historic
records.
They
produce
different
types
of
experimental
drawings
such
as
watercolors
and
charcoal
drawings.
I
They
also
produced
more
traditional
architectural
drawings
of
the
building
which
were
completed
to
haves
or
the
historic
american
building
survey
standards.
The
theater
was
extensively
photographed
by
professional
photographers
on
modern
out
west
team.
The
there
was
drone
video
footage
taken
inside
the
theater,
a
3d
scan
was
produced
of
the
building
and
we've
arcade
archived
the
associated
cloud
point
data
set
and
a
virtual,
a
virtual
reality.
Tour
was
also
created
from
the
south
side.
I
So
the
public
can
search
for
the
information
that
was
created
on
the
marriott's
archive
system
and
then
modern
out
west
also
created
an
independent
website.
The
pantages
theater
archive
that
features
a
lot
of
the
archive
material
that
they
created
as
a
part
of
this
project,
as
well
as
kind
of
more
anecdotal
information
about
the
pantages
theater,
a
timeline
of
its
construction
and
life
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
And
then
finally,
the
archived
material
will
also
be
accessible
internally
on
the
city's
laser
fish
system.
So
I
highly
recommend
that
you
all
check
out
the
website
the
interactive
website
that
was
created
by
modern
out
west.
It's
really
great
and
we're
really
grateful
to
modern
outland
west
for
not
only
producing
a
substantial
amount
of
archives.
I
But
in
the
interest
of
time
I
get
some
of
the
pieces
that
they
created
as
a
part
of
this
project,
so
tammy.
If
you
could
flip
to
the
first.
The
next
slide.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I
do.
I
think
I
do
so.
They
created
some
watercolor
drawings.
As
you
see
here,
I
can't
see
them,
but
hopefully
you
see
them
and
then
the
second
type
of
experimental
drawings
was
the
charcoal
drawings
and
I
think
that
you'll
see
the
pantages
theater
emblem
on
a
stair
balusters
up.
Oh
now
I
see
the
watercolors
and
then
the
next
should
be
the
charcoal
drawings
yeah.
I
I
They
also
have
historic,
building
elevations
and
current
building
elevations
and
then
they've
produced,
analytics
and
and
more
more
architectural
drawings
for
the
smaller
significant
architectural
details.
And
so
it's
quite
an
extensive
plan
set.
I
And
then
I
think
next
is
a
lot
of
the
photography
that
they
created
and
or
that
they
took
and
so
there's
different
types
of
photography
and
they
also
collected
a
lot
of
the
historic
photos
and
those
have
been
made.
A
part
of
the
interactive
website.
I
And
then
I
think
the
la
I
can't
see
this.
I
apologize,
but
I
think
the
last
slide
I
had
was
just
some
of
the
different
experimental
photography
they
had
with
single
exposure
photos.
I
So
hopefully
you
could
kind
of
see
a
sampling
of
the
type
of
archives
that
were
created
and
again,
if
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
interactive
website,
you
can
do
the
virtual
reality
tour
and
walk
through
the
theater
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
think
that's
about
it.
Please.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
A
D
Oh,
oh,
is
chris.
Having
the
same,
let's
see
chris
try
to
unmute
one
more
time
we
had
a
weird
meeting
setting
that
was
making
it
so
that
councilmember
fowler
couldn't
unmute
earlier
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
related
to
centurylink
or
webex
or
both.
Oh
there
we
go.
B
So
who
owns
like
in
the
pictures
that
we've
seen
you
know
like
the
banister
and
the
chandelier
and
all
of
that
stuff?
That's
in
the
theater.
Do
we
own
that
or
is
that
part
of
the
sale
to
heinz
it,
and
my
second
question
is:
what
can
we
do
if
it,
if
it's
ours,
how
can
it
be
salvaged
or
or
stored,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
can
take
a
shot-
oh
well,
really,
quick
with
the
land,
so
with
the
land
cell,
the
one
of
the
required
elements
of
the
historic,
purposing
and
reuse.
H
Another
study
was
done
that
was
led
by
the
developer
that
identified
historic
features
that
could
be
reclaimed
and
reused
in
the
new
structure.
So
that
is
a
an
ongoing
negotiation
that
heinz
and
the
rda
staff
are
working
through
and
those
elements
that
heinz
will
reclaim
and
reuse
in
the
new
development
will
be
included
in
the
agreements
when
we
close.
But
as
far
as
the
other
elements,
I
know
lauren's
been
working
with
different
user
groups
who
are
interested.
I
Yeah
modern
out
west,
the
consultants
that
we
were
working
with,
they
have
connections
or
yeah
connections
with
other
universities
that
might
be
interested
in
in
going
into
the
theater
and
salvaging
additional
pieces
once
the
land
sale
occurs.
So
I've
put
them
in
touch
and
they're
talking
about
how
they
can
accomplish
that.
B
Well,
would
that
mean
like
that
those
universities
would
take
it?
Is
there
a
way
to
keep
that
salvage
stuff
here
in
salt
lake.
H
I
believe
that
is
all
an
administrative
function
if
allison
wants
to
chime
in,
we
could
definitely
up
provide
the
board
an
update
on
that
process
as
it
moves
forward.
G
B
And
minimum
I
would
want
to
know
what
is
happening
to
what,
because
that's
been
a
big
part
of
what
the
community
has
asked
of
us
is
the
board.
Is
you
know
what
will
we
do
with
the
stained
glass
or
this?
You
know
the
stained
glass
ceiling
or
some
of
those
other
things,
and
I
want
to
get
that
information
out
to
them.
H
I
can
definitely
follow
up
with
a
board
briefing,
but
was
my
interpretation
presentation,
correct,
allison?
It's
an
administrative
function.
B
C
All
right,
I
don't
have
a
question.
I
just
want
to
echo
what
chris
is
saying.
This
is
really
important.
This
decision
was
obviously
made
before
I
was
on
the
board,
but
I
think
it's
really
sad
that
we're
losing
the
structure
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
do
the
best
to
preserve
some
of
the
elements.
I
think
it's
at
least
the
small
consolation
price
so
I'll.
Add
my
voice
to
chris
in
terms
of
advocating
for
reuse
of
those,
especially
in
a
way
that's
accessible
to
the
public
would
be
ideal
all
right.
A
Thank
you.
If
we
are
good
to
move
on
to
other
questions,
I
had
some
about
the
accessibility
to
the
to
the
new
park.
How
do
you
guys
envision?
Let
me
see
some
questions
here.
What
the
conduct
will
be,
I
mean
who's
allowed
at
the
park.
What
things
are
allowed
at
the
park
is
that
publicly
accessible?
A
How
long
will
it
be
accessible
for?
Is
it
perpetually
or
do
we
have
a
time
frame?
So
there's
a
bunch
of
questions.
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
special
events,
public
ones
or
our
private
ones.
Where
are
the
parking
shows
close
to
the
public?
How
do
you
guys
think.
H
We
we
are
taking
up
a
larger
discussion
on
the
park
at
a
future
board
meeting,
but
I
just
briefly
can
say
that
what
we've
talked
about
with
the
developer
is
placing
time
place
and
manner
regulations
on
the
park,
which
I
believe
the
city
does
on
its
own
park
space.
So
like
hours
of
operation,
that
sort
of
thing
all
of
that
will
still
comply
with
the
first
amendment
and
there
will
be
a
public
easement
placed
on
the
park
space.
H
A
Anybody
else
go
ahead,
dugan.
E
Also,
along
the
back
to
the
affordable
housing
side
of
the
house,
it
was
just
concerns
that
the
size
of
the
affordable
housing
units
was
smaller
than
the
market
rate
units
is,
that
is
that
just
a
rumor
is
that
true
or
and
how
is
that
play
into
the
design
of
the
building.
F
I'll
jump
in
for
tammy
and
her
barking
dog,
we
are
as
follow-up
to
earlier
conversations
with
the
developer.
We
will
provide
that
information
on
how
they're
proposing
to
mix
those
affordable
units
within
the
different
unit
type
sizes.
E
F
Yeah,
I
think,
as
they
indicated,
they
have
a
pretty
set
floor
plan
for
the
bulk
of
the
floors.
As
far
as
the
unit
mix
on
each
floor,
and
so
we
we
would
hope
and
anticipate
that
they
don't
necessarily
change
the
square
footage
for
the
units
that
are
designated
as
affordable.
But
we
will
follow
up
on
that
and
make
sure
we
provide
that
information.
A
All
right
so
danny,
if
nobody
else
has
any
questions.
I
would
like
danny
to
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
timeline
of
with
this
project.
In
terms
of
where
we're
gonna
get
those
answers.
Are
we
gonna
have
the
applicant
at
an
at
the
future
meeting,
and
that
would
be
our
last
really.
I
mean,
what's
the
process
from
now
on,
what's
left
over.
F
Great
question:
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
that
the
developers
working
on
a
deadline
of
when
some
of
their
money
goes
hard
as
part
of
their
transaction,
and
that
is
happening
at
the
end
of
march.
They
obviously
have
been
working
with
us
to
fulfill
these
two
contingencies
that
are
part
of
the
overall
approval
by
the
board.
First,
contingency
is
obviously
the
completion
of
this
project.
We
just
showed
you
of
the
archival
information.
F
The
second
part
is
showing
the
design
and
the
plans
for
the
park
space,
as
well
as
what
the
associated
costs
are
for
that
to
build
it
at
different
levels.
Based
on
what
level
this
this
board
wants
to
see
that,
as
far
as
public
accessibility,
the
improvements
themselves
and
any
participation
for
the
maintenance
of
that.
F
If
the
board
chose
to
do
that,
obviously
the
developers
would
love
to
have
some
sense
of
answer
or
discussion
on
that
going
into
their
deadline
at
the
end
of
march.
We
have
informed,
then,
obviously,
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
take
action
or
provide
any
of
that,
but
they're
hoping
to
at
least
present
that
so
that
they
can
fulfill
that
contingency
as
part
of
the
resolution.
F
So
shortly
after
their
deadline
in
march,
we
would
start
working
with
them
for
closing
and
tammy.
You
can
jump
in
if
you
have
better
memory
of
this,
but
our
closing
is
contingent
on
them,
submitting
the
application
for
the
height
requests
and
variants
that
they
are
working
on,
as
well
as
the
overall
design
and
approval
that
that
we
have
as
part
of
our
purchase
and
sale
agreement.
F
F
A
Okay,
so
danny,
if,
if
that
happens
before
we
look
at
the
park,
does
this
transaction
still
go
without
us
looking
at
the
park
options,
and
then
we
talk
about
the
park
options
after
or
or
is
it
before?
Do
we
need
to
make
a
decision
before
and
then
you
close.
F
No,
that's
a
that's.
A
great
question
and
price
should
be
clarified.
As
part
of
the
the
resolution
approval
by
the
board
for
the
write
down,
we
will
present
the
park
plans
and
the
design
any
decision
by
the
board
for
participation
on
that
does
not
necessarily
have
to
happen
by
closing,
but
we
are
required
at
least
to
present
what
the
developer
is
proposing
to
build,
and
then
we
have
the
opportunity
to
continue
that
discussion
to
whatever
extent
you
may
want
to
participate
or
see
that
design
expanded
upon.
F
But
as
far
as
the
closing
to
fulfill
the
requirements
that
approved
the
land
write
down,
we
do
need
to
present
that
design
and
fulfill
that
contingency,
so
that,
as
we
do
work
towards
closing,
we
have
certainty
on
what
that
purchase
price
is
and
that
the
write
down
is
in
effect.
But
that
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
you
can't
continue
to
have
a
conversation
on
what
involvement
there
may
be
on
the
park.
D
D
You
know
if
you've
already
closed
and
then
you're
talking
about
totally
changing
the
park
options
right
so
like
if,
for
some
reason
you
object
to
it
being
on
the
top
of
the
parking
structure
right
like
that
would
be
a
pretty
important
thing
for
the
developer
to
know
ahead
of
time.
So
yeah
sorry
go
ahead.
G
Actually,
I
was
gonna
jump
in
and
just
clarify
that
the
the
resolution
itself
does
call
for
the
board
of
directors
or
city
council
providing
those
incentives
for
the
open
space
prior
to
closing.
D
D
I
did
want
to
turn
in
with
just
one
technical
update,
because
this
has
been
such
a
fun
day
of
internet
problems,
apparently
our
our
internet
feed
to
facebook
and
youtube
because
the
centurylink's
problems,
and
because
it's
going
through
our
city
feed,
which
is
centurylink,
none
of
your
cameras
are
showing
up
as
being
on,
and
so
I'm
saying
this
mostly
for
the
benefit
of
the
people
who
are
listening
to
the
meeting
and
see
a
bunch
of
great
tiles
that
we
will
figure
out
a
way
to
post
the
webex
version
of
this
meeting,
so
that
people
in
the
public
can
re-watch
it
with
all
of
the
videos.
D
I
think
that,
on
one
platform,
the
shared
screen
still
worked,
but
not
trusting
that
so
apologies
and
know
that
we've
just
been
in
fun
all
day
and
we're
working
on
fixing
it.
So
thanks,
jenny.
A
All
right
and
then
we're
gonna
move
on
to
item
number
seven,
which
is
emotion,
meeting
remotely
without
an
anchor
location.
The
board
will
consider
a
motion
to
ratify
the
determination,
but
the
war
will
continue
to
meet
remotely
without
an
anchor
location
under
hb5002.
A
H
B
A
A
A
Great
and
I'm
a
yes
great,
moving
on
to
item
number
eight
report,
an
announcement
from
executive.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Number
nine
report,
announcement
from
rda
staff.
F
Yes,
madam
chair,
I
just
want
to
inform
you
and
the
rest
of
the
board.
We
have
I've,
sent
you
an
email
for
distribution
of
the
board
members
earlier.
That
provides
this
list
and
breakdown
of
the
recipients
and
the
amounts.
I
apologize
that
we
did
not
send
that
sooner.
We
didn't
have
any
staff
reports,
and
so
I
wasn't
tracking
this
item,
and
so
until
I
saw
it
today,
I
didn't
realize
that
that
had
been
put
on
there,
but
we
have
emailed
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
F
A
Okay,
so
item
number
10
report
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
that
would
be
me
and
mr
dan
dugan.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
patience
today,
as
we
did
this
first
meeting
and
having
all
these
internet
troubles,
I
don't
have
any
specifics
on
rda
reports,
but
I
did
want
to
just
recognize
the
work
of
mr
greg
miklasch,
which
passed
away
that
last
week.
He
was
a
great
ass
to
our
city.
A
He
worked
for
building
services
and
we,
the
city,
is
at
a
great
loss
for
greg
for
his
work,
but
also
friendships
that
he
has
throughout
the
city
and
the
city
staff,
so
our
condolences
to
his
family.
I'm
really
sad
about
that.
He
was
a
great
asset
to
our
city
and
then
on
more
happier
news.
A
A
All
right,
let's
do
it
yeah,
he
needs
to
contribute
number
imd
is
written.
A
D
Yes,
madam
chair,
I
think
the
goal
was
to
provide
this
as
a
written
update
this
month,
so
that
board
members
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
figure
out
if
it
warranted
sort
of
a
more
broader
conversation.
But
it's
just
an
update
from
rda
staff
on
the
status.
A
Item
e,
it's
consent.
The
resolution
amending
nine
line,
community
reinvestment
project
area
budget.
A
Oh,
my
goodness,
anyway,
rocco
father.
A
A
C
A
So
I
guess
that's
the
end
of
our
meeting.
Thank
you
so
much
for
listening
today
and
hopefully
we'll
see
you
next
time
or
you'll,
see
us
next
time.
D
And
madam
chair,
we
would
typically
do
a
motion
to
adjourn,
and
then
we
can
we
can
check
into
with
the.
This
is
a
good
time
to
check
in
with
the
council
chair,
to
see
what
kind
of
break
if
any,
we
want
to
wait
to
sign
in
to
the
next
link.
A
First
motion
motion
to
adjourn.
A
B
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
are
scheduled
on
our
agenda
for
our
work
session
to
begin
at
3
45,
so
to
stick
with
the
agenda,
so
we
don't
get
too
far
off
of
it.
Since
that
was
what
was
noticed,
everyone
gets
a
15
minute
break
so
be
back
into
our
work
session
at
3
45.
Please.
We
still
need
to
return.
We
didn't
we
didn't
vote
on
them.
We're
gonna
go
to
a
journal.
E
D
Katie
katie
katie
actually
reminded
me
that
taking
a
roll
call
would
be
helpful
and
I
think
especially
given
our
video
feed
problems.
We
probably
should
do
that.
A
Sorry,
it's
a
motion
by
amy,
founder
seconded
by
james
rogers,
to
adjourn
roll
call
founder.
Yes,
johnston.
Yes,.