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A
C
So
I
very
much
support
providing
notice
to
property
owners,
especially
those
who
have
park
strips
in
front
of
their
house,
that
they
don't
fully
understand,
is
a
right-of-way
for
many
of
the
utility
companies.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I.
D
A
Oh
you're
totally
fine
my
tune,
and
I'm
name
is
engineer
for
verizon
wireless.
I
just
would
like
to
say
we
are
more
than
happy
and
willing
to
work
with
the
city
and
I
apologize
to
the
gentleman
that
had
issues
with
other
contractors
out
there,
but
definitely
as
verizon.
I
can't
speak
for
everybody
else,
but
we're
we
can
do
what
we
can
and
notify
as
much
as
possible
and
make
sure
that
we
work
with
the
public
as
well
as
council
members
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
D
H
Hi,
I
would
like
to
express
my
support
for
this
amendment.
I
really
appreciate
the
decorum
of
listening
to
the
public's
numerous
inquiries
about
the
lack
of
notice
on
for
property
or
owners,
and
I
also
appreciate
checking
in
with
other
departments
like
engineering,
to
make
sure
that
they're
supporting
these
proposed
changes.
I
think
this
is
really
easy
change
that
would
help
inform
constituents
more
and
I'm
fully
in
support
of
it.
Thank
you.
I
I
First,
I
want
to
tell
you
a
story
about
a
community
council
chair
who
invited
a
representative
of
one
of
the
companies
to
attend
the
meeting.
The
response
from
the
representative
was,
we
don't
have
to
come.
You
are
dealing
in
some
cases
with
pure
unadulterated
arrogance,
thanks
to
the
state
legislature.
I
Now,
with
respect
to
the
installation
of
above
ground
versus
below
ground
equipment.
This
fall.
The
contractor
for
google
fiber
blocked
my
access
to
my
property,
40
percent
of
the
time.
During
the
construction
period,
without
notice,
the
installation
was
below
the
pavement
when
the
contractor
for
google
fiber
blocked
all
travel
on
canyon
road.
This
fall
in
the
east
alignment.
I
marched
and
that's
a
euphemism
to
the
group
of
workers
on
the
east
side
of
the
road
to
inform
them.
They
were
unaware
that
their
co-workers
on
the
west
side
of
canyon
road
had
also
blocked
access.
I
At
the
same
time,
there
was,
of
course,
no
notice
to
residents,
so
the
construction
phase
in
the
public
way
is
disruptive,
whether
the
installation
is
above
or
below
ground,
and
I
I'm
just
hoping
there's
some
clarification
in
the
final
version
of
the
ordinance
that
that,
if,
if
you're
not
including
below
ground
you'll,
do
that
next
thanks
very
much.
J
Okay,
I
agree
with
cindy
and
a
couple
of
others
that
there
have
been
couple
cases
I
know
of
that
centurylink,
for
instance,
and
google
fiber
have
actually
destroyed
sewer
pipes
and
it
took
months
for
them
to
fix
them,
and
it
took
a
lot
of
effort
and
that's
a
problem.
One
of
the
issues
I
generally
approve
of
the
amendment,
but
the
it
says
in
there
that
the
responsibility
for
you
should
be
it
should
be
part
of
the
contract.
J
Responsibility
for
utility
disruption
and
repair
should
be
part
of
it,
and
I
think
there's
something
in
there
about
the
city.
Engineer
may
require
that
existing
utilities
be
noted
noticed,
but
the
city
engineer
should
require
existing
utilities
to
be
located
and
notified,
and
so
they
don't
just
dig
them
up,
because
they
are
digging
them
up
and
that's
a
really
big
issue.
They
should
be
repairing
any
disruption
of
utilities,
and
that
should
be
part
of
the
permit
that
the
city
engineer
gives
to
these
companies,
and
I
agree
with
cindy.
J
D
D
K
I'm
just
gonna
have
to
agree
with
cindy
and
george
on
this
subject.
I
do
believe
that
there
should
be
more
notice
and
that
public
utilities
should
not
be
affected
when
it
comes
to
construction
in
this,
and
that's
all
I.
D
L
Hi
this
is
dave
eltis.
I
would
agree
with
george
and
others
that
this
is
a
good
amendment
pass.
I
find
it
kind
of
interesting
that
the
verizon
people
are
coming
in
commenting
on
the
meeting
here
when
you
read
posts
on
nextdoor,
where
people
have
these
small
cell
towers
planted
in
their
front
yards
with
little
or
no
notice
there.
L
It
seems
to
it's
questionable
you
know
or
wonder
if
they
do
follow
the
city
permitting,
where,
if
you
look
at
the
small
cell
guidelines
that
they're
supposed
to
be
able
to
put
them
on
top
of
other
existing
utility
poles,
yet
they
seem
to
be
installing
these
all
over
the
place
and
they're
horribly
ugly.
They
chose
a
color
for
these
that
doesn't
blend
in
with
anything,
and
it's
just
ironic
that
they're
here
saying
that
they'd
like
to
answer
questions.
L
I've
also
had
google
fiber
come
in
in
my
front
yard,
the
damage
was
relatively
minor,
but
they
certainly
didn't
put
it
back
to
the
way
it
was
prior
to
their
installation
of
a
box
in
my
front
yard,
and
so
I
would
be
in
support
of
this
amendment
as
well.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and
we
did
have
one
other
user
message
me
to
comment
on
this
item
and
I
have
been
getting
a
few
questions.
D
E
Ahead:
okay,
great.
Thank
you
good
evening,
council
members.
My
name
is
melissa
reagan.
I
am
an
attorney
at
sherman
and
heart
in
denver
colorado.
We
serve
as
outside
counsel
for
verizon
wireless.
We
appreciate
the
council's
time
tonight
in
considering
verizon's
comments,
as
mr
cox
has
already
stated.
We
submitted
a
letter
on
friday
that
summarized
our
comments
on
the
proposed
ordinance
for
the
council's
consideration
and
we're
here
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
specific
questions
the
council
may
have.
E
I
know
the
city
council
had
a
work
session
january
12th,
but
if
the
city
council
is
open
to,
it
would
happen
to
participate
in
another
work
session
with
city
council
to
work
on
this
process,
in
particular
the
form
of
the
verification
to
how
we
are
going
to
verify
to
the
city.
That
notice
was
provided
and
submit
that
to
the
city
and
work
through
those
details,
and
we
thank
you
again
for
your
time
this
evening.
M
Thank
you
jennifer,
and
thank
you
for
everyone
who
made
a
comment.
I
will
look
for
a
motion
on
this
agenda
item.
N
M
E
J
O
M
B
This
is
the
second
public
hearing
for
budget
amendment
number
six.
The
second
briefing
was
held
last
tuesday
january
12th.
There
is
a
total
of
eight
items
just
over
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
total,
proposed
expenditures,
there's
also
one
new
full-time
employee,
a
member
of
the
proposed
city
innovations
team.
B
B
B
B
M
Thank
you,
ben
with
that
jennifer
we
can
get
started
with
public
comment.
Please.
D
P
P
F
I
live
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood
and
my
comment
is
is
sure
it's
just
that
I
don't
support
any
more
funding
for
policing
or
new
police
hires
and
in
general
I
don't
think
police
should
be
involved
in
anything
related
to
homeless
issues
or
services.
F
Like
I
said
living
here
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood,
there
are
a
lot
of
homeless
folks
here
and
the
police
presence
doesn't
seem
to
be
reducing
violence
or
crime.
Here
we
mostly
see
police
harassing
those
community,
those
community
members.
So
again,
I
I
don't
think
population
has
anything
to
do
with
how
many
police
we
need.
I
think
we
need
alternative
services
and
yeah,
I'm
just
strongly
opposed
to
hiring
any
any
new
police.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
The
amount
of
camp
abatements
that
happened
in
2020
is
appalling
and
it
goes
against
the
cdc
guidelines
that
should
be
happening
during
a
pandemic,
and
so
not
only
were
no
new
shelters
added
in
2020
or
housing
capacity
increased.
We
have
more
encampment
sweeps
happening
every
day
and
it's
only
made
it
increasingly
more
dangerous
for
the
people
who
do
not
have
homes
right
now.
Q
So
please
I'm
just
encouraging
you
to
vote
against
that.
What
we
need
right
now
is
an
increase
to
basic
needs,
including
like
housing,
health
care,
mental
health,
substance
use
services,
so
yeah,
thank
you,
but
please
this
is.
This
is
really
important
and
it's
a
public
safety
crisis
for
a
lot
of
people.
O
Yes,
this
is
terrell.
Can
you
guys
all
hear
me.
A
O
L
P
It
seems
to
be
really
related
to
the
camp
abatements
mayor
mendenhall
has
mentioned
over
and
over
again
that
we
need
more
police
to
enforce
these
abatements.
That
seems
like
a
huge
waste
of
police's
time
and
of
public
funding.
P
It's
also
frustrating
that
you
all
said
that
you
wouldn't
make
any
staffing
changes
without
input
from
the
racial
equity
and
policing
commission,
but
none
of
those
changes
have
been
made.
Yet
there
hasn't
been
enough
time
for
those
changes
to
be
made
in
training
and
hiring
practices
in
any
of
these
things,
and
yet
you're
willing
to
start
a
new
class
this
year.
That's
incredibly
frustrating!
I
really
hope
that
you
reconsider
this.
P
R
Yes,
okay,
great
yeah,
my
name
is
sash
combs.
Thank
you
for
correcting
that
I've
been
a
member
of
the
ballpark
community
for
for
a
decade
and
a
half
now
and
I've
seen
this
neighborhood
go
through
all
sorts
of
changes.
R
Unfortunately,
it's
swinging
the
wrong
way
right
now
and-
and
I
understand,
there's
a
lot
of
problems
that
are
that
are
driving
that,
but
I
do
believe
in
the
police's
request
here
and
I
support
that
for
this
amendment,
and
you
know
with
the
increased
crime
over
the
past
year,
and
particularly
in
district
five,
and
particularly
in
the
west
side
of
that
district.
R
We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
adequate
funding
to
get
these
new
hires
or
potential
new
hires
in
the
pipeline
and
with
the
goal
to
minimize
this
need
to
triage,
calls
and
and
reduce
these
response
times
and
I've
experienced
it
myself.
I've
been
threatened
violently
and-
and
it's
and
it's
frightening
when
when
nothing
happens
in
those
scenarios-
and
I
hope
I
hope
all
you
listeners-
can
understand
that
it's-
it's
not
a
good
feeling,
and
I
would
just
like
to
add.
R
I
do
believe
that
there's
absolutely
a
need
to
enhance
the
the
police
training,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
that
and
I
think,
there's
a
you,
know:
a
need
to
fund
and
utilize
the
non-police
resources
to
address
these
many
homeless
and
mental
health
issues
that
are
that
these
officers
are
currently
facing.
R
But
I
don't
think
that
that's
part
of
this
request-
and
I
think
that
should
be
in
addition
to
this-
to
this
request
from
the
police.
Thank
you.
H
Hi
there
I've
read
the
accompanying
documents
to
this
motion
and
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
not
adopt
whether
this
meeting
or
in
an
upcoming
some
of
the
contributing
issues
to
the
understaffing
of
police
officers
brought
up
in
the
documentation
provided
an
accompaniment
to
this
meeting
include
quarantines
involved
with
covid,
which
would
make
sense
if
I
wasn't
seeing
not
consistent
but
fairly
frequent
unmasked
police
officers
around
salt
lake
city.
H
This
is
an
issue
and
it's
a
public
safety
issue
and
is
also
probably
why
some
of
them
are
having
to
quarantine,
causing
less
officers
to
be
available.
There's
also
inability
to
fill
overtime
shifts
cited
as
a
reason
why
there
is
understaffing
of
police
officers.
I
am
so
sorry
that
all
of
the
police
officers
in
salt
lake
do
not
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
get
overtime
pay
with
city
benefits
during
a
pandemic.
When
so
many
people
are
out
of
work
and
are
homeless.
H
However,
I
have
a
hard
time
seeing
that
being
a
huge
break
for
morale
when
they
are
among
the
first
groups
of
people
in
salt
lake
to
get
priority
coded
vaccination.
I
believe
it
was
about
80
was
the
number
cited
of
police
officers,
both
uniformed
and
non-uniformed
officers
that
are
being
vaccinated.
H
If
that
doesn't
boost
morale,
I
honestly
don't
know
what
would
in
today's
day
and
age.
I'm
also
concerned
about
these
kind
of
fear-mongering
tactics
around
increased
crime
in
2020..
I
understand
that
there
are
some
increased
violent
crimes
and
I
don't
want
that
to
be
happening.
However,
with
a
lack
of
funds,
people
losing
their
jobs,
not
enough
money
and
homelessness
being
treated
as
a
crime,
instead
of
a
result
of
our
societies
failing
to
protect
our
most
underserved
constituents.
H
I
understand
why
crime
is
up
it.
It
adds
up
and
there
are
a
lot
of
really
great
articles
out
there,
and
I
would
encourage
anyone
who
is
concerned
about
increased
crime
to
educate
themselves
on
why
crime
increases
when
people
lose
their
jobs
and
don't
have
enough
money
to
make
ends
meet.
I
would
encourage
city
council
to
look
at
the
plethora
of
different
options
out
there
to
increase
the
safety
of
communities
without
involving
violent
police
intervention,
and
I
would
hope
that
city
council
can
close
this
public
hearing
and
not
adopt.
H
B5
is
overall,
a
really
excellent
ordinance
with
a
lot
of
cool
budget
amendments,
but
piling
compiling
them
all
together
and
sneaking
in
the
addition
of
new
police
officers
when
the
public
citizen
review
board
cannot
be
fully
finished
with
the
reporting,
I
think,
is
unacceptable
and
I
hope
you
reconsider.
Thank
you.
S
Okay,
great,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
great?
Thank
you,
hello,
city,
council
members.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
your
time
this
evening
my
name
is
amy
hawkins,
I'm
chair
of
the
ballpark
community
council
and
I
signed
on
tonight
to
express
my
support
to
unfreeze
hiring
for
the
salt
lake
police
department.
S
As
you're
already
aware,
the
city
as
a
whole
experienced
an
increase
in
violent
crime.
Last
year,
an
increase
of
22
percent,
but
violent
crime
rose
in
district
5
more
than
anywhere
else
in
this
city,
it
increased
by
62,
more
than
twice
the
increase
seen
in
the
city
overall
and
also
more
than
any
other
district
in
the
city.
S
The
difference
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood
has
been
palpable.
According
to
comstat's
five-year
averages,
our
district
experiences
1.8
homicides.
In
an
average
year
last
year
we
experienced
seven.
The
people
who
died
in
these
crimes
were
often
our
neighborhood's
most
vulnerable
people
who
are
frequently
experiencing
or
in
and
out
of
homelessness.
S
These
crimes
occurred
in
spite
of
media
attention,
in
spite
of
hosting
multiple
community
meetings
that
focused
on
problem-solving
about
violent
crime.
With
a
hundred
mike
brown
and
mayor
mendenhall,
and
several
of
you,
our
city
council
members,
we
have
sought
and
will
continue
to
seek
all
kinds
of
solutions,
but
now
I
frequently
see
examples
of
neighbors
on
social
media
encouraging
each
other
to
take
matters
of
public
safety
into
their
own
hands
and
exercise
their
second
amendment
rights.
S
This
deeply
concerns
me
times
doubling
or
tripling
or
more
it's
hard
to
know
what
I
can
do
to
convince
people
to
act.
Otherwise,
I
understand
that
resources
are
stretched
incredibly
thin
right
now,
but
this
can't
be
accepted
as
a
new
normal.
Even
in
a
pandemic,
we
need
all
the
help
we
can
get
and
we
need
solutions.
T
T
However,
2020
was
the
third
lowest
in
crime
rate
out
of
the
last
seven
years
in
salt
lake
city.
Furthermore,
every
article
explaining
2020's
increase
in
crime
since
the
previous
year
attributes
it
to
the
pandemic,
a
problem
that
will
not
be
solved
by
the
police,
keith
horox,
a
police
spokesperson.
He
said
that
it
takes
about
18
months
to
train
new
officers
and
get
them
prepared
to
work
a
shift
on
their
own
lifting
the
hiring
freeze
is
not
going
to
fix
this
issue.
T
Chief
mike
brown
has
stated,
the
police
are
the
most
expensive
and
probably
the
least
effective
at
addressing
our
communities
struggle
with
mental
health,
substance
abuse
or
homelessness.
So
why
do
we
keep
putting
them
up
to
the
job
with
no
power
to
fix
these
issues
only
to
put
our
community
in
danger
of
continued
police
violence?
There
is
no
quick
fix
to
this.
Let's
stop
throwing
our
money
at
the
police
and
invest
instead
in
long-term
solutions
to
community
safety,
increasing
access
to
basic
needs,
including
housing,
health
care,
mental
health
and
substance
use
services.
T
I
just
have
to
say
it
was
so
bizarre
on
january
6,
where
there
was
an
insurrection
at
the
dc
capital
to
know
that
there
were
trump
supporters
at
the
utah
capitol,
and
I
was
helping
trying
to
help
some
people
move
their
things
on
7th
and
main
some
some
people,
some
unsheltered
people
who
have
been
kicked
out
by
police
and
police,
tried
to
arrest
us
and
wouldn't
let
us
help
them
and
just
you
know
all
the
atrocious
things
that
they
do
and
just
the
dichotomy
of
that
is
astounding
and
y'all's
performative
bs.
Q
Hi
thanks,
I
wanted
to
reiterate
what
a
lot
of
others
are
saying
of
maintaining
the
hiring
freeze.
You
guys
have
just
barely
committed
to
doing
that
and
to
already
walk
back
on
it
is
super,
discouraging
and
doesn't
really
show
a
strong
commitment
to
what
you're
saying
you
want
to
do.
I
would
really
encourage
you
guys
to
hire
more
people
for
the
community
connection
center.
It's
a
super
good
program
and
since
it's
been
started,
you've
never
met
the
capacity
that
it
can
be
held
at.
Q
So
I
would
put
a
lot
more
resources
into
hiring
social
workers
instead
of
hiring
more
policing
because,
as
mike
brown
said,
the
police
are
the
the
most
expensive
and
probably
least
effective
in
handling
issues
of
homelessness,
of
mental
health,
of
substance
abuse
and
often
criminalize
those
who
are
experiencing
those
issues.
So
I
would
definitely
not
look
to
hire
more
cops
right
now.
It's
it's
a
super
bad
message.
Considering
you
were
just
saying
you
wanted
to
freeze
hiring
six
months
ago,
thanks.
P
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
comment
on
the
city
council's
consideration
of
removing
the
hiring
freeze
of
new
police
officers
in
salt
lake
city,
we're
tired
of
endlessly
demanding
that
the
government
stop
relying
on
and
funding
the
police
to
address
community
safety,
because
we
know
that
this
only
creates
more
harm.
Instead,
we
are
demanding
you
start
funding
resources
that
are
actually
wanted
and
needed
resources
which
will
address
the
root
causes
of
most
crime
and
harm
in
our
communities,
shelter,
food,
clean
water,
medical
and
mental
health
care,
clothing,
education,
a
healthy
and
sustainable
environment.
P
All
of
these
need
to
be
accessible
equitably
for
all
the
police
cannot
accomplish
any
of
this.
They
only
create
more
harm.
We
were
never
asking
for
a
temporary
hiring
freeze.
We
are
demanding
a
permanent
hiring
freeze
and
complete
redirection
of
government
funds
to
resources
that
will
actually
address
community
safety.
Using
the
police
to
address
poverty
is
not
only
ineffective,
but
it
is
cruel
and
demonstrates
the
continued
valuing
of
profit
over
people
by
the
salt
lake
city
government.
P
Even
your
own
chief
of
police
admits
that
the
police
are
the
most
expensive
and
least
effective
solution
to
poverty.
Not
to
mention
the
most
harmful
and
violent
and
that
we
are
never
going
to
arrest
our
way
out
of
these
problems.
Why
do
we
keep
trying
in
researching
the
claims
around
increases
in
crime
in
salt
lake
city?
I
found
that
although
crime
did
increase
from
last
year,
it
was
still
the
third
lowest
crime
rate
in
the
last
seven
years.
P
Would
it
really
be
surprising
for
salt
lake
city
to
see
an
increase
in
crime
after
the
government's
failed
response
to
the
coven
19
pandemic,
which
has
left
thousands
of
utahns
facing
eviction,
food
insecurity,
debilitating
medical
debt
and
unemployment
instead
of
providing
the
aid,
people
actually
need?
Why
do
you
think
the
right
response
is
to
bring
in
more
police
the
only
people
advocating
more
police
to
address
poverty
are
those
who
falsely
believe
police
officers
can
prevent
crime
or
the
private
property
owners?
P
Who
don't
care
what
happens
to
the
poor
as
long
as
they
can
continue
to
exploit
their
labor
by
siding
with
the
vicious
demands
of
these
capitalists
over
the
voices
of
the
masses?
You
are
showing
us
exactly
who
rules
in
salt
lake
city.
The
people
demand
that
you
maintain
the
hiring
freeze
until
every
cop
in
the
salt
lake
city
police
department
resigns,
so
that
money
can
finally
be
invested
in
real
resources.
Thank
you.
C
C
2020's
crime
rate
was
on
par
with
the
five-year
median
and
one
of
our
safest
years
in
the
past
in
and
we
are
in
a
pandemic.
The
police
spokesperson
himself
said
it
takes
about
18
months
to
train
new
officers
and
get
them
prepared
to
work
on
a
shift
on
their
own.
Lifting
the
hiring
freeze
will
not
fix
this
issue
and
whatever
you
think
it
will
do,
will
not
happen
quickly
regardless.
C
If
there's
no
quick
fix
to
this,
why
is
the
council
walking
backwards
on
this
promise
to
go
back
to
a
norm
that
we
know
doesn't
work?
Why
is
that?
Why
isn't
the
council,
following
the
lead
of
seemingly
braver
and
more
compassionate
cities,
who
are
using
the
protest
from
last
summer
as
a
jumping
off
point
for
other
solutions
that
could
actually
make
a
difference
like
a
crisis
response
team
consisting
of
a
social
worker
and
a
paramedic,
and
not
a
police
officer
or
investing
more
money
in
housing?
C
First
programs
in
affordable
housing
options
or
increasing
access
to
health
care,
food,
clean
restrooms
harm
reduction,
supplies,
shelter.
We
need
to
stop
throwing
our
money
at
the
police
and
expecting
them
to
fix
this
and
instead
invest
in
long-term
solutions
that
actually
work
to
do
anything
other
than
this
is
just
pouring
salt
into
the
wounds
of
our
community
from
police
violence
that
led
to
the
hiring
freeze
in
the
first
place.
C
A
Hi,
I'm
jess
johnson.
I
live
downtown,
not
to
reiterate
too
much
what
other
people
already
said,
but
again,
police
are
not
effective
in
solving
these
problems.
Instead
to
those
that
had
delayed
responses,
I
think,
as
a
professional
consultant
that
solves
business
problems,
you
will
look
at
what
were
the
calls
made.
Why
were
police
not
stationed
earlier?
Why?
A
What
other
things
they
were
doing,
like
probably
working
on
homeless
abatement
camps
and
and
moving
people
when
that
could
be
handled
by
many
other
services
for
with
a
much
better
outcome,
instead
of
being
positioned
places
where
they
can
respond
faster,
where
they're
more
available
to
respond
to
things
faster?
You
just
look
at
how
we
handle
fires
and
other
things
like
that
too.
So
the
way
we
handle
the
policing
that
it
already
exists
hasn't
been
used
effectively.
So
adding
more
is
not
the
right
solution.
You're
wasting
money.
A
The
right
way
is
to
then
evaluate
how
they've
been
handled
so
far
and
to
find
better
ways
to
be
more
efficient
and
getting
to
the
places
that
we
need.
So
again,
I
echo
everything.
That's
said
about
it,
not
being
a
good
use
of
money.
We
don't
need
more
funding
for
the
police.
I
asked
the
council
to
not
motion
this
to
another
vote.
I
asked
them
to
dismiss
it
outright.
Thank
you.
D
K
Hi,
so
I
would
just
have
to
agree
a
lot
with
annie
charles,
and
I
do
believe
that
you
guys
unfreezing
the
police
hiring
would
be
a
bad
idea
for
one.
You
guys
did
just
barely
make
the
promise
like
she
said
six
months
ago,
and
it
shows
a
bad
message
and
when
more
funding
could
be
going
towards
housing,
it
could
be
going
towards
shelters.
It
could
be
going
towards
drug
rehab
rehabilitation
programs.
K
We
do
not
need
to
be
putting
more
funding
towards
police
when
they
are
the
ones
that
are
causing
more
harm
than
anything
right
now,
in
my
own
opinion,
when
it
comes
to
them
being
when
them
being
quarantined
due
to
covid.
I
do
agree
with
what
someone
else
said
about
them
not
wearing
their
masks,
masks
if
they
could
be
wearing
them
and
putting
that
into
force
more.
We
wouldn't
need
to
be
revisiting
this
issue
of
unfreezing
the
hiring.
K
D
K
It's
my
name
is
elena,
I'm
speaking
against
ending
the
hiring
freeze
for
the
salt
lake
police
department.
K
This
practice
has
been
in
place
for
many
years,
but
the
fact
that
the
city
and
department
are
continuing
to
enforce
this
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic
is
despicable.
People
are
becoming
homeless,
left
and
right
and
have
nowhere
to
go
resources.
That
should
be
used
to
aid.
Those
who
are
most
impacted
should
not
be
wasted
on
a
department
that
the
city
council
has
already
committed
to
defunding.
K
The
cdc
has
it
clearly
stated
that
displacing
encampments
puts
them
in
more
danger.
Camps
are
useful
in
allowing
social,
distancing
and
outlines
that
if
an
encampment
is
too
crowded
to
leave
them
in
place
until
shelter
and
resources
are
obtained
for
them,
they
also
emphasize
the
responsibility
of
the
city
to
provide
water
and
sanitary
restrooms
to
such
encampments.
K
N
A
Pachul
cola
representing
the
rose
park,
brown
berets
and
I'm
here
to
echo
a
lot
of
folks
too.
To
that
we
don't
not
need
new
cops.
We
do
not
need
new
slave
captures
to
keep
the
slcpd
hiring
freeze.
We
are
tired
of
them
harassing
our
own
shelter
relatives
and
our
in
our
neighborhoods
as
well
and
on
the
west
side
of
rose
park,
glendale
popular
growth.
We
see
them,
we
see
them
continuing.
A
You
know
just
causing
more
harm
to
us.
You
know,
and
I
and
I
and
I
asked
you
to
please
listen
to
the
people
of
color
who
are
talking
on
this.
You
know,
I'm
pretty
sure
the
people
that
are
that
are
in
support
of
having
having
more
police
officers
are
white
and
privileged.
So
I
hope
you
guys
to
keep
your
words
that
you
guys
did
six
months
ago.
So
please
keep
the
hiring
freeze
for
the
socpd.
Thank
you.
R
R
We
have
constant
violent
crime
over
here,
shootings,
stabbings,
multiple
murders
at
a
high
rate,
and
my
neighbors
and
myself
rely
on
police
response
for
our
own
safety
with
constant
use
of
the
police.
I
can
tell
you
that
our
response
times
are
often
two
to
three
hours
before
we
see
an
officer
show
up
and
there's
one
specific
story.
I
like
to
share
that.
I
experience
I
was
home.
This
was
2
a.m.
R
Middle
of
the
night
woke
up
to
somebody
breaking
into
my
home.
They
breached
the
first
door,
my
security
door
and
was
working
on
my
second
door
when
I
woke
up
startled
and
called
police
for
help.
Dispatch
told
me
that
there
were
no
officers
available
and
that
there
was
nothing
they
could
do
at
that
time.
R
R
D
Did
we
just
do
dave
thomas?
Yes,
sorry?
Next
we
have
dave
iltus,
followed
by
anthony
beckstead,
followed
by
sheldon
shelly
bodily.
L
L
I
do
hope
that
this
proposal
includes
a
green
bike
station
mayor
biscui
promised
there
would
be
expansions
of
green
bike
on
the
west
side
of
salt
lake
and
I
don't
believe
that
occurred
or
minimally
occurred
during
her
tenure,
and
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
have
a
green
bike
station
at
fisher
mansion
at
the
start
of
the
various
trail
heads
that
are
there.
L
That
sounds
wonderful,
but
unfortunately
the
information
provided
by
council
in
the
report
doesn't
tell
where
this
trailhead
might
be,
I'm
in
support
of
purchasing
of
trailheads,
but
it
certainly
would
be
nice
to
know
where
that
trailhead
was
gonna
be
so
thank
you.
D
L
L
L
Of
proven
19
with
many
people
losing
jobs
and
being
quarantined
at
home
with
lack
of
employment
and
increased
homelessness,
spiking
the
crime
rate
and
substance
use.
I
personally
have
been
battling
the
disease
of
addiction
for
the
past
15
plus
years
without
the
proper
structure
I,
after
incarceration.
A
For
five
plus
years
purchase
a
home
and
support
a
family,
I
have
met
many
individuals
with
several
with
similar
stories
in
the
recovery
community
that
also
have
positive
outcomes
and
ending.
I
would
like
to
encourage
the
city
to
take
into
consideration
more
opportunities
for
programs
before
prison.
I
do
not
support
young,
the
unfreezing
of
hiring
a
police
and
asset
that
matters
with
close.
Thank
you.
F
Hi,
my
name
is
shelly
bodily
and
I'm
a
resident
of
the
ballpark
district
five
and
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
hiring
new
officers
once
they
come
out
of
training.
I
think
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
we
have
had
a
lot
of
officers
leave
the
profession
and,
more
than
anything,
I
think
we
need
to
get
those
officers
that
have
left
back
onto
the
force
for
those
of
you
that
have
said
that
hey
crime
isn't
up
very
much
compared
to
other
years.
F
I
can
tell
you
that
I've
lived
in
the
ballpark
for
15
years
and
while
we
have
had
our
share
of
small
issues
in
the
past,
it
has
never
never
been
this
bad.
In
my
neighborhood,
I'm
trying
to
raise
three
daughters
and
the
ballpark
is
my
neighborhood,
and
I
am
scared
I
feel
like
a
prisoner
in
my
home,
and
it's
not
just
me
for
all
of
those
fighting
for
the
homeless
and
people
experiencing
homelessness.
F
Those
people
are
the
ones
who
are
the
target
of
a
lot
of
this
violence.
So
not
only
do
I
want
to
be
protected,
but
I
think
people
experiencing
homelessness
also
need
that
protection
in
the
ballpark
we
have
low
income
housing,
we
have
a
homeless
resource
center,
we
have
valley
mental
health
and
yet
still
our
crime
is
up
60
percent,
so
the
ballpark
is
doing
our
part
to
offer
services
to
help
these
people,
and
it's
not
enough.
F
We
need
the
support
of
the
slpd
here
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
I
I
think
there
are
systemic
issues
in
the
police
department
that
need
to
be
solved,
but
when
you're
home
alone
and
it's
dark
out
anyone
who's
spoken
on,
this
call
has
called
the
police
when
something
has
happened.
We
need
that
support
here,
even
even
though
there
needs
to
be
some
reform.
F
J
J
Okay,
first
of
all,
I'm
against
spending
5
million
of
valuable
park
impact
fees
on
the
carriage
house
project
because
it's
essentially
art
that
money
should
be
spent
on
parks
and
trails
because
they
don't
have
enough
money
on
the
water
park.
I
hope
glendale
can
have
a
brand
new
olympic-sized
swimming
pool
to
replace
a
water
park
as
soon
as
possible
and
on
the
police
fasten
your
seat
belts.
They
need
funding
now,
and
I
agree
with
the
people
from
ballpark
that
are
being
impacted
by
a
60
increase
in
violent
crime.
J
It
will
take
years
to
recover
to
provide
the
service
that
this
city's
citizens
are
requesting
and
were
promised
we're
down.
76
officers
now
soon
to
be
down
100..
It's
not
really
a
lifting
of
the
hiring
freeze.
It
is
an
attempt
to
fill
the
authorized
positions
from
before
it's
a
public
safety
crisis
for
residents
who
can't
get
police
to
respond
to
threats
residents
in
this
city.
Most
of
them
don't
want
to
hear
defunding
the
police.
They
demand
more
police.
A
thousand
may
want
defunding,
but
I
know
tens
of
thousands
want
more
police
now.
J
J
I
urge
this
city
to
keep
its
promise
to
provide
that
appropriate
police
staffing
and,
if
anybody's
interested
in
mental
health,
there's
a
big
hearing
tomorrow
afternoon
at
the
legislature,
sb
70
is
being
heard
and
it
expands
mental
health
crisis
teams
from
four
teams
to
14,
with
county
funding
being
forced.
I
urge
anybody
interested
in
increasing
mental
health
treatment
to
virtually
attend
that
meeting
and
comment
and
support.
Senator
griebe's,
sb
70
mobile
crisis
outreach
team
expansion,
thanks
for
listening.
D
D
D
E
D
Okay,
madam
chair,
I'm
not
sure
since
we're
at
the
end
of
our
list
of
speakers
what
we,
what
we
should
do.
M
Yeah
go
ahead.
I
almost
called
you
your
honor.
This
is
what
happens
when
I
have
court
and
counsel
all
in
the
same
day,
but
jen
we
do.
I
had.
I
just
received
a
facebook
message
from
wendy
garvin
and
she
was
registered
for
general
comments
but
would
like
to
speak
to
this
matter.
Can
you
help
facilitate
that.
D
Is
she
currently
signed
into
the
meeting,
see
wendy?
You
said:
wendy
garvin?
Yes,
I
see
her
yeah
yeah
and
we
did
have
some
people
with
confusion
about
which
portion
of
the
meeting
to
register
for
so
just
to
clarify.
If
there's
anything
about
items
in
budget
amendment
number
six,
this
would
be
the
time
you
would
speak.
If
there's
items
that
are
not
in
budget
amendment
number
six,
you
can
speak
so
I
will
unmute
wendy
garvin
wendy's
go
ahead
and
I.
F
Really
appreciate
you
guys,
so
I
did
want
to
speak
in
oh,
I
would
like
to
continue
to
not.
F
I
would
like
to
continue
the
hiring
freeze
what,
however,
that,
whichever
direction
that
goes,
my
experience,
so
I
do
go
out
on
the
streets
in
ballpark
almost
every
night
after
dark
in
reference
back
to
some
of
the
other
callers
who
have
have
spoken
on
this,
I
have
built
relationships
with
the
unsheltered
population
out
there
and
I
don't
feel
threatened
with
them
and
that's
my
recommendation
actually
is
that
that
is
the
best
way
to
deal
with.
This
is
to
get
to
know
your
neighbors.
F
It
is
really
unfortunate
that
they
are
living
on
the
streets,
but
they're
still
your
neighbors,
and
that
is
100
the
best
way
to
deal
with
this
issue,
rather
than
hiding
behind
locked
doors
and
calling
for
armed
people
who
don't
come
for
hours,
just
getting
to
know
the
people
who
live
around
you
and
maybe
helping
them
out,
because
the
reason
they're
stealing
is
because
they
have
nothing
right.
F
Now,
our
outreach
efforts
have
been
targeted
in
that
area,
because
the
ballpark
area
has
some
of
the
population
that
has
the
the
least
the
least
resources
right
now
and
just
yesterday,
one
of
our
sister
teams,
that
is
just
amazing,
went
out
and
painted
over
graffiti
at
the
request
of
the
the
camp
that
was
living
in
that
area,
because
they
wanted
to
clean
up
the
area
that
they
were
living
in
they're
great
people-
and
I
heard
I
heard
one
of
the
speakers
refer
back
to
you
know
they
were
concerned
about
the
safety
of
the
unsheltered
population
in
the
area,
and
I
promise
you,
our
police
are
not
out
there
looking
out
for
the
safety
of
the
unsheltered
population.
F
Unfortunately
it
of
all
of
their
priorities.
In
this
world,
that's
just
not
their
highest
priority,
that's
not
where
they're
targeted
and
for
the
most
part,
if
we
reach
out
to
them
for
help
and
safety
of
the
unsheltered
population,
they
they
don't
even
really
consider
them.
People,
okay,
thanks.
D
So
we
also
received
a
few
messages
from
a
few
other
people
wanting
to
speak
on
this
item,
but
first
we'll
go
back
to
brian
lord,
who
I
think
has
fixed
for
his
things.
He's
fixed
his
audio
issues.
So
brian,
can
you
hear
me.
G
Yeah,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
oh
awesome,
hey
thanks.
My
name
is
brian
lord
resident
of
district
four,
just
down
the
street
from
the
ball
ballpark
area.
It
sounds
like
a
lot
of
white
folks
are
being
a
little
uncomfortable
with
our
homeless,
neighbors
being
in
our
neighborhood.
G
I
expect
from
the
mayor
in
the
mayor's
office
these
offensive
statements
about
people
helping
homeless
people
and
how
that's
not
helpful,
but
we're
not
getting
health
they're,
not
getting
help
from
the
city
and,
quite
honestly,
from
the
city
council
we're
getting
absolutely
nothing.
I
have
no
idea
what
my
city
council
member
thinks
about
any
of
the
stuff.
Like
I
understand,
y'all
are
co-workers.
G
You
have
to
work
together,
but
as
a
con
as
a
citizen
of
the
city,
it's
very
frustrating
to
not
understand
what
y'all
think
would
love
to
hear
your
comments
about
cops
and
hiring
freezes
and
camp
abatements
and
the
mayor's
comments
coming
the
day
after
well,
let's
see
national
human
rights
day
and
then
in
tweeting
about
national
human
rights
day
right
after
camp
abatement,
which
is
a
human
rights
again,
would
love
to
hear
from
any
and
all
of
you
and
your
opinions,
your
thoughts,
your
feelings,
please
do
not
hire
any
more
police
officers.
G
That
is
just
that's
fighting
against
what
we
are
trying
to
solve
here.
Thank
you.
D
Next,
we
have
ashley
engler,
followed
by
essenia
and
I'll
need
your
help
pronouncing
your
name.
I
apologize
in
advance
and
then,
after
her
we'll
have
ethan
marion
ashley
engler.
H
Sorry
about
clicking
the
wrong
box
there.
I
also
am
speaking
in
support
of
keeping
this
hiring
freeze.
Please
do
not
lift
this
freeze,
and
so
many
folks
have
made
so
many
great
points.
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
all
that,
like
many
other
members
of
the
community
I
was
present
on
january
6th,
I
saw
no
less
than
20
police
officers
blocking
off
an
entire
blocks
radius.
H
I
watched
no
less
than
10
officers
stand,
clustered
together
and
laughing
at
community
members
doing
their
best
to
assist
the
unsheltered
neighbors
with
moving
their
things.
I
watched
no
less
than
six
flank
and
heard
a
woman
dragging
her
belongings
out
of
a
camp
and
violently
kicking
items
she
dropped
away
from
her
I'd
like
to
know.
How
is
this
helping?
What
service
is
this?
Providing
exactly?
Where
were
people
meant
to
go
to
all
the
folks
tonight
who
were
speaking
about
the
houseless
being
the
ones
who
are
victims
of
of
the
increases
in
crime?
H
The
police
are
not
protecting.
The
houseless
funding
should
be
invested
in
decreasing
barriers
to
housing,
safe
shelter
options
and
safer
care.
Frankly,
they
do
not
deserve
to
freeze
and
starve,
while
they
are
awaiting
adequate
services
and
the
idea
that
a
hot
meal
is
keeping
people
from
seeking
support
is,
frankly
ludicrous.
H
Finally,
I
see
no
lack
of
law
enforcement
in
our
streets.
I
see
an
entire
faction
of
constituents
being
treated
as
less
than
human
by
bullies
in
uniform
and
regarded
as
such
by
a
paternalistic
city
council,
whose
interests
seem
to
squash
the
rise
in
community
care.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
for
having
me
this
evening.
D
E
Yes,
I'm
christina
casava.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
for
allowing
us
to
comment
and
for
all
the
hard
work
you
do.
Hi
amy
fowler.
I
love
you.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
am
completely
opposed
to
the
listing
of
the
hiring
freeze.
I
agree
with
the
vast
majority
of
these
comments.
There
is
a
large
police
presence
already.
What
we
really
need
is
an
emphasis
on
doing
what
we
can
to
house
these
populations
and
working
in
one
department.
B
E
Hygiene,
well,
we
have
a
solution
for
that.
A
lot
of
the
nomads
are
begging
us
to
please
pick
up
the
trash.
We
give
them
trash
bags.
We
need
to
have
restrooms
available
quarter,
parties
cost
so
much
less
than
an
actual
than
any
police
force.
They
they
can
pay
for
an
entire
month
of
of
quarter
parties
for
an
hour
of
what
what
one
police
officer
will
you
know
one
for
the
hour
for
the
for
one
hour
of
a
police
officer's
time.
We
we
have
solutions,
and
we
ask
that
we
have
some
compassion.
M
Kristina,
it
was
a
little
quiet
hearing.
Your
your
comments,
would
you
mind,
shooting
us
an
email
with
some
of
your
comments
just
so
that
we
make
sure
we
have
those.
I
had
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time
hearing
some
of
them.
D
Okay:
next,
we
have
we're
going
to
go
back
to
christopher
durbinge,
who
I
think
fixed
his
audio
issues
and
then
after
christopher
will
have
ethan
marianne
and
nathan
kazarian
christopher
go
ahead.
You're
unmuted.
O
Thank
you
first,
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
amy
j
hawkins
for
all
that
she's
done
for
the
ballpark
neighborhood.
O
She
I
don't
know
anybody
that
looks
at
statistics
cares
more
about
the
welfare
of
everybody,
including
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
neighborhood,
but
the
reality
is,
is
I
keep
carrying
statistics
laid
over
and
over
by
a
bunch
of
people
that
say
we
don't
need
more
police,
but
when
you
get
to
the
people
that
have
real
world
situations
to
lay
down,
I
I
only
had
a
few
out
of
that
group
and
and
there's
a
really
loud
voice
from
those
of
us
live
here
and
deal
with
this
on
on
a
daily
basis.
O
I
think
I
brought
up
in
our
last
meeting
that
we
had
the
the
clerk
just
over
the
christmas
holiday.
The
clerk
was
chased
with
a
knife
over
at
maverick
on
9-1-1
call
asking
for
help.
A
customer
came
to
his
help
with
a
bat.
The
police
never
showed
up,
they
were
too
busy
and,
and
they
never
called
him
back.
The
side
of
the
building
was
somebody
put
a
card
on
it
and
tried
to
burn
down
the
maverick
on
the
side.
One
of
the
the
vulnerable
homeless
tried
to
burn
down.
O
The
building
was
traced
away.
The
the
fire
department
came
and
put
the
fire
out
we've.
My
car
has
been
broken
into
three
or
four
times
in
since
the
pandemic
started
to
within
days
apart
and
in
the
same
time
we've
had.
In
that
same
week,
we
had
three
stolen
vehicles
left
left
on
on
the
street,
just
just
a
house
or
two
away
from
mine
and
for
many
other
residents
here
in
the
ballpark
we've
had
multiple
murders.
O
We've
had
active,
burglaries
in
progress
where
I've
called
the
police
and
and
had
to
wait
six
hours
for
a
call
back
when
nobody
showed
up
after
calling
three
times
while
I
followed
them
around
the
streets
as
they
broke
into
house
after
house
after
house
and
no
police
came
to
help,
people
are
starting
to
arm
themselves.
I'm
included
I've,
never
armed
myself
in
my
life,
and
now
I
have
armed
myself.
I've
earned
my
home,
I'm
afraid,
somebody's
going
to
break
through
my
front
door
and
attack
my
family.
O
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
just
like
to
speak
and
kind
of
voice
my
opinion
that
I
think
we
should
be
keeping
the
hiring
freeze.
C
I
know
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
comments
made
about
how
you
know
they
feel
like
crime
is
on
the
rise
and
it's
dangerous
for
them,
and
I
agree
that's
a
problem,
but
I
also
recognize
that
really
the
police
will
show
up
after
the
crime
has
already
been
committed
and
we
need
to
really
be
addressing.
C
I
also
feel
like
I
have
some
pretty
good
insight
into
this
as
a
social
worker
who's
working
here,
and
I
mean
really
a
lot
of
the
other
comments
that
were
made
earlier
in
the
evening-
has
spot
on
with
this
we're
not
providing
the
resources
that
we
need
to
the
people
struggling
with
homelessness
or
the
people
affected
by
the
pandemic,
and
that
is
reflected
in
our
crime
rates.
C
I
would
also
like
to
echo
that
right,
chief
mike
brown
has
said
the
police
are
not
it's
going
to
be
the
effective
way
to
do
this
right.
I
believe
I
understood
this
quote
from
the
salt
lake
tribune,
where
it
said
also
recognized
that
the
crime
increase
was
probably
an
anomaly
dude
covert,
but
why
would
we
agree,
spend
all.
J
C
O
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
My
name
is
nathan
cazarian,
and
I
would
just
like
to
thank
y'all
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
guys
tonight.
So
I
was
the
second
place.
Runner
up
in
the
democratic
party
for
lieutenant
governor
I
was
zachary.
Moses
is
running
me.
I
started
following
this
homeless
issue
unsheltered
issue
back
in
2017
when
it
became
a
reality.
For
me,
my
wife
was
diagnosed
with
terminal
cancer.
O
She
passed
away
last
year
within
four
months.
We
lost
our
home,
we
lost
all
our
possessions,
we
lost
our
income,
we
lost
our
business,
so
it's
a
little
bit
disheartening
and
maybe
even
a
little
bit
triggering
for
me
to
be
driving
down
the
street
in
salt
lake,
and
I
see
a
lady
with
a
chemotherapy
ball
and
her
condition
put
her
on
the
street.
O
O
My
wife
was
one
of
the
big
proposition
2
story.
So,
as
far
as
any
more
funding
to
the
police,
I
would,
I
would
have
to
go
with
defunding
the
police
a
bit
and
investing
that
money
into
social
services.
Unless
ar-15
I
was
there
for
this
year's
tampa
basement.
There
was
an
officer
with
an
air
15
20
cop
settled
around
standing
under
american
flag
and
all
it
looked
like
was
carrying.
O
O
I'm
in
this
to
give
this
issue
bandwidth,
but
I'm
in
it
to
raise
funds
too,
and
it's
a
little
bit
frustrating
when
my
girlfriend
and
I
are
going
out
weekly
with
fifteen
hundred
dollars
in
sleeping
bags,
just
to
watch
them
get
thrown
away
the
next
week-
and
this
happens
right
before
nightfall,
when
society's
most
vulnerable
are
getting
ready
to
lay
down
and
get
some
of
them
are
getting
ready
for
work.
Their
tools
are
being
thrown
away.
D
M
Thank
you
jennifer.
I
do
want
to
just
again
remind
people
that
if
you
want
to
speak
to
budget
amendment
number
six
now
is
the
opportunity
to
do
so.
So
if
you
clicked
the
wrong
box,
as
jen
has
been
doing,
please
just
message
her,
I'm
gonna
give
it
a
couple
of
minutes,
because
our
general
comment
period
is
meant
to
address
items
that
are
not
on
our
agenda
and
so
we'd
be
asking
that
if
you
are
interested
in
speaking
to
budget
number
six,
you
take
this
opportunity
now
and
not
during
our
general
comment
period.
M
E
E
D
M
Okay,
if
I
haven't
heard
from
jen
or
robert,
so
we
will
move
forward
and
I
will
look
for
a
motion.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
joining
us
and
for
making
their
comments
and
I
will
look
for
a
motion.
E
A
N
I
agree
very
much
with
a
lot
of
the
callers
who
are
calling
and
saying
that
it's
that
the
current
system
that
we
have
for
policing
is
not
acceptable,
and
I
think
that
they
pointed
to
a
lot
of
problems
with
the
current
system
that
I
totally
agree
with.
It's
not.
I
agree
it's
not
acceptable,
but
it's
also
as
a
as
cities.
N
We're
required
to
salt
lake
city
is
required
to
provide
a
police
force
and
it's
not
acceptable
either
that
we
have
residents
that
are
making
calls
for
serious
crimes
that
they're
experiencing
and
they're
not
getting
any
response
at
all.
So
while
I
know
that
lifting
the
hiring
freeze
isn't
going
to
solve
crime,
I
also
know
that
over
the
last
six
months,
we've
done
so
much
as
a
council
to
invest
in
more
housing.
N
Services
are
are
not
provided
by
the
city,
but
they
are
provided
by
the
council
or
the
county
and
the
state,
and
we
have
done
everything
that
we
can
to
provide
better
services
in
our
city
than
any
other
city.
We've
done
more
to
host
resource
centers
in
our
city
than
any
other
city.
This
isn't
a
situation
where
it's
it's.
N
It's
all
one
and
all
the
other.
We
have
to
address
the
concerns
that
are
happening
on
both
sides
and
address
the
symptoms
of
a
system.
That
is
that
we
all
acknowledge
is
not
is
not
the
perfect
system
and
not
the
system
we
had
going
forward.
N
N
N
I
believe
not
just
in
this
meeting
tonight,
but
in
correspondence
that
I've
had
and
in
meeting
with
my
constituents,
both
east
side
and
west
side
residents.
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
go
forward.
N
N
So
with
that,
madam
chair,
I
would
move
that
we
that
we
agree
to
lift
the
hiring
freeze
for
this
budget.
Amendment
not
saying
that
that
we
permanently
lift
the
hiring
freeze
on
the
department.
But
the
motion
before
us
is
to
fill
the
40
plus
percent
vacancy
that
we
have
in
the
department
right
now,
and
I
would
move
that
we
do
that
for
this
request.
O
M
Sorry
I
couldn't
find
my
mute
button.
I
have
a
motion
by
council
member
wharton
and
a
second
by
council
member
rogers.
Is
there
any
discussion
to.
A
This
yeah-
I
I
didn't,
prepare
anything
so
this
is
going
to
be
winging
it
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
a
couple
of
statements
that
I
heard
that
I
resonated
with
and
first
also
sort
of
bring
up
a
thing
that
I
brought
up
in
the
work
session,
which
is,
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
the
concerns
of
public
safety
from
my
my
constituents
and
I
I'm
also
alarmed
by
some
of
the
increases
in
response
times
and
some
of
the
increases.
A
So
I
believe
that
we
do
need
to
lift
the
freeze
now,
but
I
am
also
very
concerned
with
the
fact
that
this
new
police
hiring
class
does
not
match
the
demographics
of
our
city,
and
I
know
that
we
discussed
it.
I
didn't
do
the
math
fast
enough,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
three
of
the
30
officers
that
are
from
under
represented
communities
which
doesn't
match
our
demographics,
and
so
I'm
disappointed
in
that.
A
Acknowledge
eliza
mckinney's
comment
about
the
fact
that
we
didn't
have
input
from
the
rep
commission
on
this
lifting
of
the
freeze.
I
wish
we
would
have
done
that.
That's
a
mistake
I
feel
like
I
I
should
have
made
to
ask
for
that.
But
in
the
end
I
think
that
the
correct
decision
for
the
city
is
to
move
forward
with
lifting
the
trees.
M
M
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
echo
councilman
romano's
feelings
in
some
in
some
aspects
as
well,
but
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
this.
So
with
that,
I
will
take
a
roll
call,
councilmember
wharton.
N
I
M
N
N
D
A
I
I
think
that
the
council
member
made
the
motion
relating
to
the
police
hiring
issue
which
has
been
the
most
discussed
issue
tonight,
but
not
the
overall
budget
amendment,
and
so
perhaps
you
could
consider
a
motion
that
confirms
that
the
hearing
is
closed
and
addresses
the
other
amendment
items.
M
N
M
Katie,
I'm
gonna
look
to
katie
now.
Should
we
do
a
new
roll
call,
emotion
and
roll
call.
F
T
M
N
M
A
M
M
And
I
have
a
second
from
council
member
rogers
with
that
I
will
do
another
roll
call,
councilmember
wharton.
N
O
O
M
M
With
that
we
will
move
on
in
our
agenda
agenda
item
c.
There
are
no
potential
action
items,
sorry
my
dog
is
walking
around
and
his
fingernails
are
long
agenda.
Item
d
are
questions
to
the
mayor
from
the
city
council.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
mayor
for
being
with
us
today
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
for
the
mayor
from
any
council
members.
M
We
are
now
at
the
comments
to
the
city
council.
This
is
our
general
comment
period,
as
I
mentioned
before
the
items
that
were
in
our
public
hearing
meetings,
meaning
the
grants,
the
budget
amendment
those
we
have
had
the
public
hearing
on
this
is
the
time
for
anything
that
was
not
addressed
in
a
public
hearing
earlier.
So
these
are
comments
just
general
comments
again
that
we're
not
scheduled
for
a
hearing
tonight.
I
just
very
quickly
want
to
go
through
the
rules
of
decorum.
M
Again,
I
do
appreciate
that
everybody
was
I'll,
be
a
passionate
topic
was
respectful
and
that
creates
an
open
space
for
everyone
to
feel
welcome
here
within
our
city
council
meetings.
M
As
you
are
aware,
we're
still
doing
this
virtually
and
we
can
accept
comments
through
webex
or
if
phone
call,
we
have
staff
that
is
monitoring
a
separate
telephone
line
again.
The
rules
here
are
no
different
than
when
we
were
meeting
in
person.
We
are
always
attempting
to
create
spaces
where
people
can
feel
safe
to
provide
their
comments.
We
value
the
differences
in
opinions
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
feel
respected
and
that
their
voice
can
be
heard.
M
M
M
The
council
has
decided
to
more
strictly
enforce
the
use
of
profanity.
So
consider
this
your
advanced
warning.
If
you
feel
that
you
cannot
make
your
comment
without
using
profanity,
please
feel
free
to
contact
us
in
other
forums
which
could
include
email
or
making
a
comment
by
calling
801-535-7654
this
information,
our
email
address
and
address,
are
in
the
chat
box
as
well.
M
If
you
do
use
profanity,
you
will
be
muted
and
you
will
forfeit
your
opportunity
to
address
the
council
tonight.
We
ask
as
well
that
you
give
you
as
your
name
for
in
just
like
we
do
in
in-person
meetings.
We
ask
for
a
first
and
last
name.
M
If
your
registered
name
does
not
meet
this
requirement,
then
our
stat,
our
staff,
can
chat
with
you
to
gather
that
information
and
change
that,
if
you're
unable
to
give
us
a
first
and
last
name
that
meets
our
requirement,
then
we,
our
staff,
is
also
happy
to
direct
you
to
another
forum,
because
your
message
is
important
to
us
again.
Robert
nutzman
from
our
staff
is
helping
to
moderate
the
meeting.
He
will
be
messaging
with
attendees
to
coordinate.
Please
monitor
the
chat
screen
for
his
information
and
or
feel
free
to
message
with
any
questions.
M
Jennifer
bruno
is
calling
the
names
of
those
who
wish
to
comment
and
unmuting
lines.
When
it's
your
turn
to
speak,
the
meeting
host
will
unmute
your
line
state
your
name.
If
you
will
please
state
your
name
and
the
two
minute
timer
will
begin
at
the
two
minute
mark.
The
host
will
announce
time
and
your
microphone
will
be.
Muted.
Jennifer
will
be
calling
out
three
names
at
a
time,
so
people
can
prepare
for
when
they
are
up.
Next.
With
that,
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
jennifer
to
get
started
with
our
general
comments.
D
P
I
hope
for
any
comment
from
the
rest
of
the
council
about
why
you
have
increased
this
funding
for
this
program
when
it
goes
against
these
guidelines,
when
every
health
official
on
the
federal
level
has
said
that
doing,
camp
abatements
during
the
pandemic
is
harmful.
It's
not
helpful.
It's
not
good
for
people's
health.
We
should
be
investing
in
public
restrooms
in
providing
water
in
providing
quick
and
easy
shelter
when
they
can't
access
more
permanent
shelter.
P
It's
frustrating
to
see
so
many
public
comments
made
that
just
defend
these
actions
that
don't
actually
address
the
concern
that
you're,
not
following
cdc
guidelines
and
instead
trying
to
water
down
what's
happening
to
these
people.
I
was
really
disgusted
and
horrified
by
the
comment
that
mayor
mendenhall
made
in
the
tribune
saying
that
feeding
people
was
limiting
their
access
to
getting
permanent
housing
and
shelter.
I
was
glad
to
see
that
my
former
boss
at
voa
kathy
bray,
said
that
that
was
not
factually
correct
at
all,
but
I
don't
understand
where
that
comment
came
from.
P
I
feel
like
it's
essentially
saying
that
people
either
need
to
go
to
a
shelter
or
starve
to
death,
and
I
hope
that
all
of
you
can
take
a
more
compassionate
approach
to
realize
that
residents
are
trying
to
help
these
people
we're
feeding
them
from
our
own
pockets.
We
are
giving
them
these
supplies.
We
want
people
to
survive
the
winter.
These
abatements
aren't
helping
it's
taking
time
away
from
these
other
serious
calls.
D
K
My
name
is
haley
vincent
and
I'm
an
addict
in
recovery.
I've
been
to
prison
for
burglary,
fraud,
robbery
and
trafficking
of
marijuana,
and
I
can
tell
you
from
personal
experience.
Incarceration
was
not
the
answer.
If
anything,
it
was
the
opposite.
I
made
more
connections
learned
how
to
commit
more
crimes,
and
it
didn't
better
me
as
a
person.
K
If
anything
it
made
me
bitter
and
isn't
that
the
opposite
of
what
we
as
a
society
should
be
trying
to
do,
isn't
the
point
to
be
completely
honest,
to
not
only
teach
the
offender
a
lesson
but
to
change
them
for
the
better
to
rehabilitate
them,
I'm
31
years
old
and
from
a
very
young
age.
I
made
the
choice
to
break
the
law
or
in
other
words,
get
into
trouble.
But
when
you
think
about
it-
and
I
mean
really
think
about
it-
the
word
choice
can
differ
when
drugs
are
brought
into
play.
K
I
know
that
this
may
be
difficult
for
people
who
have
never
used
drugs
to
understand,
but
the
best
way
I
can
put
it
is
when
you're
on
drugs,
which
in
themselves
are
mind-altering
substances,
you
lose
yourself.
You
become
a
slave
to
the
drug,
physically,
mentally,
spiritually
and
emotionally.
You
lose
your
self-worth
and
values.
Everything
including
your
choice,
your
choice
to
control
your
own
life,
and
this
brings
me
to
the
point
of
of
the
oh
once
again.
K
This
brings
me
to
the
point
of
the
talk
about
putting
drugs
drug
dealers
into
life
sentences.
When
really,
I
think
that
what
we
should
be
looking
at
more
is
on
connections,
not
corrections
or
a
middle
ground
like
incarceration
and
then
treatment,
because
coming
from
personal
experience,
when
I
was
first
released
from
prison
without
treatment,
I
went
back
to
using
because
I
felt
like
I
had
been
to
prison
and
I
couldn't
get
a
job
or
home,
etc.
K
But
when
I
was
released
from
prison
into
treatment,
where
I
not
only
learned
how
to
be
a
productive
member
of
society,
but
also
connected
me
to
resources
like
housing,
job
fairs,
voc,
rehab,
going
straight
from
prison
where
I
was
able
to
come
off
drugs
and
learn
a
lesson,
in
other
words,
receive
a
punishment,
then
being
released
to
treatment
to
be
able
to
get
the
get.
The
help
that
I
needed.
I
think
that
that's
where
more
funding
should
be
going
towards,
which
is
treatments
not
incarceration.
Thank
you.
D
Sorry,
we
have
kessenia
followed
by
dave
iltus,
followed
by
brian
lord,
so
I
will
go
to
kethenya.
Go
ahead.
You're
unmuted.
E
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
me
and
a
radcab
group
of
volunteers
have
been
going
out
every
week
and
serving
the
homeless
we've
been
giving
them
tents
and
sleeping
bags,
and
often
we
feel,
like
sisyphus,
pushing
a
rock
up
a
hill,
because
every
week
that
we
go
back
to
the
same
settlement
or
another
settlement,
people
are
are
asking
us
for
more
tents
and
more
sleeping
bags,
because
they're
tents
and
sleeping
bags
and
all
necessity
medications.
E
Everything
have
been
thrown
in
the
trash
through
these
abatements
and
I'm
asking
you
to
please
have
them
have
some
compassion
and
please
stop
these
abatements.
We
see
the
suffering
that
people
are
experiencing
due
to
the
fear
and
the
stress
of
the
police
coming
in
and
throwing
everything
away,
they're,
not
giving
us
enough
notice.
E
If
you
cannot
stop
the
abatements,
we
ask
you
to
please
give
us
a
48-hour
notice
and
we
would
gladly
come
with
an
army
of
of
trucks
and
cars
and
help
these
people
move
to
another
location.
But
please,
if
you
are
doing
abatements,
please
have
space
and
shelters
available
because
they
have
no
place
else
to
go.
They
could
keep
being
pushed
from
one
corner
of
the
city
to
another
and
that's
no
way
to
live.
Also,
numerous
a
number
of
the
settlements
have
requested
trash,
receptacles
and
trash
to
be
regularly
picked
up.
E
There
is
a
youth
camp
on
eight
south
and
fourth
west,
that's
desperately
in
need
of
regular
trash
pickups.
So
I
asked
the
city
to
please
make
that
accessible,
because
the
health
department
is
concerned
with
the
feces
and
and
the
trash,
and
please
also
allow
restrooms
to
be
available,
and-
and
I
understand
that,
but
we
can,
we
do
have
solutions,
and
that
is
to
providing
regular
trash,
pickups
and
porter
potties.
L
Hi
this
is
dave
eltis.
I'm
wanted
to
comment
on
several
things.
One.
The
last
commenter
raised
some
great
points
about
garbage
cans
and
porta-potties
at
the
various
homeless
encampments.
L
Clearly,
the
people
that
are
there
really
want
to
keep
their
area
clean,
but
the
cans
were
completely
full,
and
I
noticed
in
one
article
in
the
west
west
view
media
that
the
city
spent
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
clean
up,
and
it
seems
like
having
more
garbage
cans
and
more
porta-potties
would
save
money
in
the
long
run
and
make
everyone's
life,
especially
those
who
were
experiencing
homelessness
much
better.
L
I
don't
see
how
in
the
world,
this
would
be
harmful
to
anybody
who's
homeless
to
have
basic
sanitation
where
they're
living
on
other
topics.
This
is
a
plea
again
to
the
council.
Please
fix
your
emails
that
never
have
the
agenda
in
them
and
your
system
is
really
not
very
good.
I've
emailed
commented
for
a
couple
years
on
this
and
it
still
remains
awful.
L
It
doesn't
include
electric
bicycles,
cargo,
bikes
and
scooters,
which
it
really
needs
to,
and
then
lastly,
2200
west
and
sugar
house
both
illustrate
a
need
for
better
oversight
with
private
contractors
who
are
rebuilding
roads
and
not
following
salt
lake
city's
complete
streets
ordinance.
D
D
So
dave
iltus,
sorry
about
that.
I
responded
to
a
different
alarm.
I
guess
so.
You
have
about
18
seconds
left
on
your
comment.
L
Oh
okay,
just
that
there's
this
permitting
process
for
private
contractors,
building
on
roads
is
broken
and
it
leads
to
places
that
are
supposed
to
have
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks
and
such
not
getting
those
installed
and
contractors
getting
away
with
what
not
following
the
ordinance,
and
so
we
have
worse
streets
as
a
result.
L
D
Thanks
my
apologies
on
that.
The
next
person
is
brian
lord,
followed
by
wendy
garvin,
followed
by
christopher
durbridge,
so
brian
lord,
and
go
ahead.
You're
unmuted.
G
All
right,
thank
you,
so
I'll
keep
this
very
general.
First.
I
want
to
thank
jennifer
and
robert
for
administering
this
meeting
tonight
for
all
the
tech
problems
not
fun.
Second,
I
just
want
to
set
the
tone
for
y'all
about
what
you're
going
to
expect
from
us
the
public
for
this
year.
G
I
live
right
across
the
street
from
the
fleet
block
where
this
homeless
encampment
is
also
the
muir
walls,
and
you
guys
are
going
to
tear
it
all
down.
We
get
that,
but
I'm
very
concerned
about
what
is
it's
going
to
look
like
once.
It
has
been
torn
down
one
example
giving
wasatch
community
guardians
that
they
will
loan
for
what
you
all
call
accessible
housing
at
70
of
the
average
median
income
in
salt
lake
city.
G
G
G
So
please
build
the
city
from
the
ground
up
and
not
the
top
down
which
it
seems
like
the
mayor
is
very
used
to
doing
building
the
city.
To
look
more
like
her
to
look
more
like
me,
white
people,
that's
not
what
I
want
to
see.
We
move
into
town
and
we
just
destroy
everything.
That's
about
all!
I
have
like
love
the
civility
love
all
of
it,
but
what
is
not
civil
is
the
way
that
you
are
treating
people
on
the
streets
and
poor
people.
What
are
you
doing
to
help
poor
people?
D
F
Thanks
so
much
so
we
do
outreach
with
I
work
with
cassinia
and
a
wonderful
group
of
volunteers.
We
do
outreach
with
the
unsheltered
community,
and
I
want
to
echo
cassenia's
request
for
trash
cans
and
and
porta-potties.
The
porta-potties
that
are
out
in
front
of
the
youth
center
are
working
really
well
for
that
community,
but
there
are
other.
There
are
other
camps
that
are
too
far
away
to
utilize,
those
very
well
so
those
are
an
amazing
resource
and
if
we
could
get
more
of
those,
that
would
be
amazing.
F
We
pass
out
trash
bags
and
we
we
actually
are
working
with
each
of
the
camps
to
try
and
find
somebody
who
will
sort
of
captain
the
job
of
of
collecting
trash
and
making
sure
trash
is
taken
care
of.
So
all
we
need
is
somebody
to
come
along
and
pick
it
up.
If
you
guys
would
be
willing
to
cover
that
part.
That
would
be
really
awesome.
F
We
understand
that
tents
and
sleeping
bags
on
the
side
of
the
road
is
just
a
temporary
solution,
so
we
would
love
to
work
with
you
on
more
permanent
long-term
solutions,
we're
just
trying
to
keep
people
alive
until
we
can
get
there.
So
we
appreciate
the
airport
in.
We
know
you
guys
are
working
on
longer
term
solutions.
We
know
you're
working
on
permanent
housing.
We
would
like
to
work
with
you
on
all
of
that.
We
just
want
to
do
some
temporary
things
to
keep
people
alive,
comfortable
and
safe
in
the
meantime.
Thank
you.
D
Q
Thanks
so
much
hi,
I
wanted
to
speak
on
a
couple
of
topics,
but
one
that
I
was
very
concerned
about
was
two
weeks
ago,
mayor
mendenhall
and
the
chief
of
police,
mike
brown
like
started
a
new
initiative
to
increase
federal
agents
in
salt
lake
city
and
to
increase
federal
sentencing.
Q
I
think
that's
really
concerning
especially
given
the
current
climate
and
how
much
people
are
vocalizing,
just
fears
around
police
and
and
their
ability
to
help
people
versus
hurt
people.
So
I
don't
think
increasing
federal
sentencing
makes
sense
right
now.
I
think
increasing
you
know
just
services
to
people,
whether
it's
mental
health
resources,
whether
it's
housing,
whether
it's
substance,
abuse
treatment.
Q
We
need
those
things
in
place
to
protect
our
citizens
and
then
another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
comment
on
is
the
sro
contract
is
up
for
the
city
in
february,
and
I
would
really
encourage
you
guys
to
not
continue
it
with
the
current
vendor
hearing
what
you
guys
were
saying
in
last
work
session.
There
was
concerns
about
not
being
able
to
aggregate
data
when
it
comes
to
male
versus
female
or
white
versus
black
and
hispanic,
and
I
think
that's
a
huge
issue.
Q
If
we
don't
know
who
is
being
affected
by
the
sros,
we
just
shouldn't
have
them
in
our
schools
like
police
and
schools.
Just
doesn't
make
sense.
We
need
to
put
more
counselors
in
there
and
again
more
social
workers
to
get
kids
the
resources
that
they
need.
If
there's
kids,
who
are
acting
out,
it's
usually
because
there's
issues
at
home
or
issues
with
a
lack
of
resources
and
that's
what
we
need
to
be
needing.
Thank
you.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
josh
kevlovitz
again
from
district
five
there's
a
couple
things
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
in
the
general
comment
period.
That
is
echoing
on
a
couple
of
couple
of
previous
speakers,
one.
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
the
city
should
not
be
doing
unsheltered
camp
abatements,
as
other
people
have
mentioned.
This
is
against
cdc
guidelines.
We
are
in
a
pandemic
in
the
middle
of
winter
and
we
do
not
have
space
in
our
shelters.
C
I
know
we
talked
about
this
at
length
previously
for
the
other
comment
session,
that
the
rise
in
crime
is
a
manipulation
and
misunderstanding
of
the
actual
data,
but
regardless
I'd
like
to
express
my
frustration
that
this
is
not
going
to
help
our
community,
it
is
not
a
good
idea,
and
in
that
news
article,
it
is
mentioned
that
chief
mike
brown
blames
from
this
rising
crime
on
things
like
bail
reform.
I'd
like
to
publicly
comment
that
that
is
not
something
that
bail
reform
does
and
demonstrates
a
misunderstanding
of
how
bail
actually
works.
R
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
general
comments,
but
it's
focused
on
the
the
topic
du
jour
here
you
know
I
come
from
a
family
of
addiction
and
homelessness
and
I've
you
know,
denied
my
family
at
my
doorstep,
so
I
I
get
it
all
right
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
it's
not
productive
to
suggest
the
stereotypes.
The
the
white
person,
male
whatever
it's
it
aggravates
people
I.e
me
and
I
think
it's
very
unproductive
homelessness
is-
is
much
bigger
than
than
the
neighborhood.
R
You
know
it's,
it's
it's
bigger
than
the
city.
It's
it's!
It's
a
it's
a
county,
it's
a
state
problem,
but
the
burden
is
is
often
falling
on
salt
lake
city
and
it's
falling
into
into
discreet
neighborhoods,
and
you
know,
please
understand
frustration
from
those
neighborhoods
that
are
experiencing
it
when
an
encampment
is
there
for
months
on
end
and
you
are
friendly
to
them,
but
then
it
becomes
so
big
that
you
can't
walk
your
family
or
your
dog
or
your
kids
through
it.
R
Imagine
that
and
and
it's
it's
not
it's
not
easy.
Okay-
and
so
I
understand-
and
I
asked
the
community
council
to
please
help
us
address
this
problem-
thank
you
for
this
venue.
It's
been
great,
I
don't
participate
enough
and
thank
you
for
attempting
to
be
progressive
in
this
super
conservative
state,
and
I
know
others
will
disagree
with
me
on
that,
and
you
know
maybe
most
people
can
agree
with
this.
Tomorrow
is
a
beginning
of
a
new
chapter
in
america.
R
M
M
A
I'm
chair,
I
move
the
council
adopt
a
resolution
authorizing
the
issuance
and
or
incurrence
from
time
to
time
of
one
or
more
series
of
subordinate
airport
revenue.
Short-Term
revolving
obligations
in
an
aggregate
principal
amount
not
to
exceed
300
million
outstanding
at
any
one
time
in
the
form
of
a
revolving
line
of
credit
for
the
purpose,
among
others,
while
financing
and
refinancing
certain
capital
improvements
to
the
salt
lake
city,
international
airport,
authorizing
the
execution
and
delivery
of
a
master,
subordinate
trust
and
denture.
A
revolving
credit
agreed
a
fee
agreement.
L
M
N
O
M
And
I
am
a
yes
that
passes
agenda
item
f,
unfinished
business.
We
have
none.
We
are
now
at
the
consent
portion
of
our
agenda.
I
would
look
for
a
motion
this
time.
M
A
E
A
M
And
I
am
a
yes
that
passes.
This
concludes
our
formal
city
council
meeting
and
we
oh
time
out.