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A
B
Welcome
to
today's
city
council
meeting,
we
are
grateful
to
have
you
joining
us
as
we
continue
to
hold
electronic
meetings.
Welcome
to
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
online,
even
though
we
are
not
in
person.
This
meeting
is
still
considered
an
open
and
public
meeting
today
is
a
work
session
only
and
there's
no
public
comment
scheduled.
However,
tuesday
june
5th
15th
will
be
the
next
opportunity
for
the
public
to
comment
during
our
7
p.m.
B
We
are
on
item
number
one,
which
is
generally
an
update
from
the
administration.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
an
update
from
the
administration
today
since
we're
just
doing
budget
stuff.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
administration
is
here.
C
B
B
Before
we
begin,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
libby
from
the
council
staff
and
then.
D
Madam
chair,
yes,
but
before
that,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question
and
it's
budget
related
in
regards
to
policing,
and
we
can
get
back
to
me
on
this.
But
it's
been
brought
to
my
attention
that
a
lot
of
our
police
officers
have
expired.
Body
armor
and
a
lot
of
their
vehicles
are
not
equipped
with
some
of
the
equipment
that
most
police
police
officers
should
have
like
spikes
in
the
back.
That
help
make
their
jobs
a
lot
more
efficient
and
not
put
them
in
dangerous
circumstances.
D
So
my
request
would
be
to
the
administration
to
find
out
how
many
of
those
are
expired
and
what
it
would
take
to
get
those
non-expired.
B
B
Sorry,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
libby
from
council
staff
to
give
us
a
report
overview
of
the
city
city
attorney's
budget,
and
then
we
have
katie
lewis,
our
city
attorney
cindy
lou
trishman,
our
city
recorder.
I
believe
sim
gill
will
be
here
at
some
point,
our
district
attorney
and
scott
fisher.
The
first
assistant
prosecutor.
C
Thanks,
madam
chair,
so
today
I
will
be
giving
a
briefing
on
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
the
office
or
the
office
of
the
city
attorney.
So
the
office
of
the
city
attorney
includes
three
divisions,
civil
practice,
recorder's
office
and
risk
management,
and
the
city
has
a
contract
with
the
district
attorney
and
his
folks
where
salt
lake
city
prosecutors
are
housed
in
the
same
place
and
work
with
the
district
attorney
prosecutors.
C
C
F
Thank
you
very
much
libby
and
hello
council
members.
It's
great
to
see
you
today.
Thank
you
so
much
for
spending
some
time
with
me
and
cindy
lou
and
members
of
the
prosecutor's
office
today,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
her
proposed
budget
this
year.
We
especially
this
year
when
it's
been
so
challenging
and
so
unturned
uncertain.
I
want
to
be
sure
to
acknowledge
the
support
that
you
all
have
given
our
office
and
how
much
it
means
to
us.
F
I
thought
that
I
would
start
by
giving
it.
I
don't
have
a
powerpoint,
and
I
thought
I
would
start
by
giving
a
brief
introduction
to
all
the
council
members
about
our
office
and
what
we
do
and
then
talk
briefly
about
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
the
recorder's
office
budget,
requests
and
then
hand
it
over
to
sim
gill
who,
as
libby
mentioned,
is
the
deputized
city
prosecutor
under
an
interlocal
agreement
between
salt
lake
city
and
salt
lake
county.
F
F
We
are
small
compared
to
other
in-house
law
firms
for
capital
cities.
Denver
has
approximately
200
lawyers,
boise
has
approximately
45
lawyers,
we
have
18
civil
attorneys
and
35
employees
in
the
prosecutor's
office,
as
libby
mentioned,
our
department
includes
the
the
risk
division
which
you've
already
talked
to
in
a
different
budget
presentation:
the
recorder's
office
and
the
city
prosecutor.
F
The
the
city
attorney's
office
has
18
civil
attorneys.
We
don't
do
criminal
work
for
the
city,
but
we
do
everything
else
for
the
city.
So
any
legal
advice
that
any
city,
department
or
elected
official
seeks
all
the
litigation
ordinance
drafting
contracts,
drafting
advising
you
all
as
elected
officials,
we
do
it
all
and
we
under
city
code,
we
advise
both
the
legislative
and
the
administrative
branches.
F
Our
other
division
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
to
you
today
is
the
city,
recorder's
office
and
cindy
lou.
Trishman
is
here
today
and
she's
our
city
recorder,
and
I
can't
say
enough
about
cindy
lou's
leadership.
She
has
taken
the
recorder
to
new
levels.
She
is
grace
under
fire
and
she
is
thoughtful
and
responsive
and
she
was
appointed.
She
she
reminded
me.
She
was
appointed
one
year
ago
today
to
this
position
and
it
was
one
of
the
best
decisions
that
the
city
has
made.
F
I
I
am,
I
am
so
grateful
for
her
work
and
her
assistance.
Every
day.
The
recorder
has
seven
full-time
and
one
three-quarter
time.
Employee
and
three
of
those
employees
are
new
this
year
and,
of
course,
cindy
lou
is
also
completing
her
first
year
or
just
completed
today,
her
first
year
of
being
recorder.
F
They
are
working
on
being
responsive
to
both
the
legislative
and
the
administrative
branches,
they're
opening
up
new
technologies
for
all
of
us
and
they're
consolidating
functions
for
better
transparency
and
equity
for
our
constituents,
and
I'm
just
so
pleased
about
their
work
and
then
again,
as
libby
mentioned,
the
prosecutor's
office
operates
under
a
contract
between
the
county
and
the
city
in
which
the
the
city
deputized
sim
gill
to
be
the
city
prosecutor
and
mr
gill
serves
as
the
prosecutor
and
manages
all
of
our
city
employees
in
that
division.
F
They
have
35
employees
and
sim,
and
his
team
are
here
today
to
talk
about
their
budgetary
requests.
So
with
that,
that's
my
introduction.
I'm
happy
to
talk
with
you
all
about
the
city
recorder
and
the
city
attorney's
office
budget
request,
although
I
think,
as
you'll
see,
we
we're
pretty
static.
This
year,
we
we
did
have
some
base
to
base
changes
and
also
continued
funding
for
the
new
positions
that
the
council
so
generously
funded
for
us
in
this
past
year
and
which
we
desperately
needed.
F
And
then
we
are
also
asking
for
fifteen
thousand
dollars
approximately
for
the
recorder's
office
to
pay
for
software
to
help
with
social
media
retention
as
part
of
our
obligation
to
to
keep
those
materials.
So
those
are
the
that's
the
introduction
for
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
the
recorder.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
me
or
cindy
lou,
we
are
happy
to
answer
them
or
we
can
hand
them
over
to
the
prosecutors
who
are
who
have
other
budget
requests.
That
they'd
like
to
share
with
you
today.
B
G
G
We
have
requested
additional
prosecution
support,
so
I
think
her
proposal
is
three
prosecutors
and
then
one
victim
advocate,
as
you
know,
that
last
year
was
a
challenging
year
for
in
many
ways
in
terms
of
the
covet
and
the
impact
that
we
had
and
over
the
that
caseload
historically,
we've
been
challenged
in
terms
of
the
number
of
cases
that
our
we've
asked
our
prosecutors
to
handle.
G
My
sense
is
that
we
can
average
about
600
cases
per
attorney
to
give
us
a
really
good,
workable
optimum
level
and
with
the
if
we
take,
for
example,
the
depressed
numbers
from
last
year,
which,
as
crime
sort
of
number
of
filings,
went
down
with
the
covet
restrictions
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
daytime
population
that
moved
away.
G
The
three
new
prosecutors
taking
2020
numbers
would
reduce
that
caseload
to
about
867
cases
per
attorney.
So
that's
a
long
overdue
thing
that
we
think
that
would
help
us
to
do
our
job.
The
the
victim
advocate
request
comes
after
these.
The
da's
office
had
received
a
federal
grant
for
victim
advocates,
and
we
had
taken
one
of
those
assets
and
put
it
in
service
for
salt
lake
city
cases
for
a
little
bit
over
two
and
a
half
years,
which
was
to
help
with
the
dv
cases.
G
But
our
grant
has
run
out
as
well
as
this.
Well,
our
grant
has
been
cut
back.
I
should
say,
because
we
have
to
do
each
year
reduction,
so
we're
taking
that
asset
back
after
about
more
than
two
years,
but
what
that
asset
demonstrated
was
how
it
helped
both
our
manager
caseload,
as
well
as
serving
the
needs
of
victims.
So
in
our
conversation
with
mayor
mendenhall,
we're
very
grateful
for
her
recommendation
and
and
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
may
have.
B
D
Yeah,
I'm
sure
thanks
sam
appreciate
that
your
beard's
looking
really
nice,
at
least
from
the
distance
I've
got
a
couple
questions
for
you.
Our
call
volume
for
police
officers
has
gone
up,
so
you
you're,
saying
that
it's
going
to
go
down
is
that
are
that
are
our
bill,
not
our
bills,
but
our
cases
per
attorney
is
going
down
so
all
right.
We
know
that
our
call
volume
has
gone
up
and
it's
delayed
and
it's
it's
taken.
G
Oh
well,
what
I
was
referring
to
was
the
impact
of
2020
and
kovit.
So
last
year
our
numbers
went
down
because
and
remember
remember,
our
daytime
population
explodes
during
the
normal
working
time.
So
with
the
people
working
from
home
and
and
the
reduction
of
that
daytime
population
and
across
the
board
given
covet
concerns.
Even
the
da's
office
numbers,
our
case
load
dropped
down
and
we
saw
a
similar
drop
down.
G
That
happened
with
city
cases,
and
so
I
was
using
2020
numbers
to
say
that
our
numbers
from
2019
went
from
about
1300
cases
per
prosecutor
down
to
about
1100
cases
as
a
result
of
that
downturn.
If
you
will,
but
as
we
move
towards
normalization
and
and
we
and
the
response
we
of
course
see
we
would
expect
those
numbers
to
go
up.
And
if
we
take
last
year's
number
and
with
the
infusion
of
these
three
prosecutors,
it
would
drop
us
down
to
867
cases
per
attorney.
G
If
I
take
the
lowest
numbers
that
we
have,
but
of
course
you
are
right,
as
there
is
a
fluctuation
on
the
number
of
officers
who
respond
to
call
that
has
a
direct
correlation
to
the
number
of
cases
that
are
generated.
So
there
is
a
direct
correlation
to
law,
enforcement's
response
in
the
field
and
the
number
of
cases
that
we
will
see.
D
Yeah-
and
that
makes
me
wonder,
because
we're
if
we're
not
having
response
times
higher,
we're
not
actually
getting
to
the
the
crime,
the
scene
of
the
of
the
crime
and
time
in
order
to
catch
an
individual,
that's
you
know
breaking
the
law,
so
that
was
my.
My
question
is,
and
you
answered
that
that
that
makes
perfect
sense
to
where
we're
at
because
we've
lost.
You
know
close
to
90
officers
over
the
past
18
months,
and
you
see
that
go
down
because
of
that.
So
I
I
appreciate
that.
G
And
I
would
just
add
one
thing,
which
is
when
I
speak
to
my
counterparts
from
around
the
country.
We
have
about
a
monthly
meeting,
there's
also
to
keep
in
mind
because
of
reduced
court
operations.
There
is
those
cases
are
in
the
queue,
so
there's
a
bulge.
That's
there.
Now,
when
we
talk
about
my
counterparts
nationally,
we're
looking
at
anywhere
from
18
to
36
months
to
process
that
caseload
as
well
as
the
normalization
occurs,
with
the
infusion
of
those
cases.
G
So,
for
example,
in
march
of
this
year,
our
number
of
jury
trials
that
were
set
were
in
excess
of
over
500
jury
trials
from
from
the
covert
backlog,
not
counting
the
new
ones
that
are
entering
into
the
system.
So
I
have
genuine
concern
about
how
to
manage
it
over
the
next
18
to
36
months
of
working
those
cases
through
the
system
in
an
efficient
manner
as
well.
D
And
then
my
follow-up
question
to
you
is
in
regards
to
jail
time,
how
we
we
get
more
jail
beds
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we
need
to
you,
know
incarcerate
everybody,
but
those
I've.
I've
heard
from
our
police
officers
that
a
lot
of
individuals
are
getting
online
every
morning
to
see
what
the
cue
is
in
there
and,
if
they're
a
bed
space
or
not,
and
they
tell
them,
I'm
going
to
be
out.
You
know
no
matter
what
I'm
not
going
to
be.
D
G
So
so,
for
example,
the
high
priority
issues
are
really
public
safety
issues
or
somebody
who
is
really
what
I
would
say
and
from
a
non-violent
perspective,
really
earned
their
way
to
want
to
get
into
jail
by
non-compliance
or
some
issue
of
special
enforcement
that
we
may
want
to
look
at
the
the
typical
cases
that
you're
going
to
see
at
a
misdemeanor
level
are
going
to
be
issues
of
dui
domestic
violence,
assaultive
behavior
type
of
cases,
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
not
push
everybody
else
into
that
who
doesn't
need
to
be
there
for
non-violent
offenses.
G
G
But
those
who
are
not,
we
need
to
come
up
with
other
mechanisms
of
of
addressing
that
issue
now
post
adjudication.
Certainly,
you
can
then
start
to
do
that
by
person's
non-compliance,
but
it's
a
person
who
deserves
to
be
there.
So
it's
not
it's
not
just
just
because
by
virtue
of
having
a
jail
bed
that
we're
going
to
just
occupy
it,
because
we
have
a
jail
bed,
the
the
average
daily
count
at
the
county
jail.
G
You
know
when
kovitz
started
was
about
2159
by
us
implementing
smart
strategies.
We
were
able
to
reduce
it
down
to
about
1300
as
low
as
1100
is
hovering
right
now
around
13
to
1400
people,
because
we're
trying
to
be
mindful
of
those
at-risk
people
to
go
in
there.
So
that's
the
current
capacity
of
the
county,
jail.
F
D
That
a
lot
of
them
are
like
severe
multiple
offenders
that
they're
just
continually
or
it's
just
a
you
know
open
door
that
just
keeps
on
circulating
what
what
does
the
da
have
to
say
with
that
with,
along
with
the
county
and
the
city,
and
making
sure
that
that's
not
something
that
continually
happens.
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
it's
a
rat
wheel
that
we're
just
going
around
and
around
and
around.
G
G
Then
the
secondary
thing
is
for
us
to
explore
the
options
of
supervised
and
supportive
probation
and
overwhelmingly
majority
of
the
individuals
will
do
that
now.
Having
said
that,
that
does
not
mean
that
there
aren't
pressure
points
and
also
issues
within
our
communities,
so
you
can
have
somebody
I'll
give
you
an
example
like
this.
By
and
large
stealing
a
car
theft
is
really
a
non-violent
kind
of
an
offense,
but
a
person
who's
a
prolific
car
car
thief
who
steals
multiple
cars.
G
Their
collective
impact
has
a
violence
upon
the
community
in
that
broad
sense
of
criminality
right
so
that
person
who
is
a
nuisance
in
a
protracted
way,
then
I
think
we
can
and
by
having
the
virtue
of
having
an
empty
jail
bed.
When
we
prosecute
that
person,
then
we
can
say
that
there
is
value
in
removing
this
person
out
of
the
community
and
there's
a
net
gain
for
us
to
have
and
we're
committed
to
that
kind
of
an
approach.
D
B
Absolutely
council
members
other
questions.
Sam.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
your
proposal
for
three
new
three
new
prosecutors.
Do
you
have
vacancies
in
the
in
the
city
attorney's
part
of
the
office
right
now?
Yes,.
G
So
we
have
13
direct
if
we
were
to
not
and
add
any
new
prosecutor.
Our
sort
of
bench
right
now
is
13
line,
prosecutors
and
scott
and
paige
who
help
with
training
management
and
all
the
other
aspects
that
are
tied
to
the
running
of
the
office.
G
Right
now
and
and-
and
we
have
had-
we've
been,
I
think,
down
as
low
as
six
attorneys
active
attorneys
with
a
combination
of
people
who
have
left
because
the
market
is
changing
and
also
because
people
are
on
military
leave
right
now.
We
are
probably
at
the
healthiest
level
in
the
last
seven
or
eight
months
and
we're
up
to
ten
line
prosecutors,
so
we're
currently
down
three
prosecutors.
So
we
have
three
vacancies
that
are
there
currently
and
yeah.
Please.
B
Seven
prosecutors,
so
it
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
turnover,
unfortunately
happening
and
I'm
not
really
sure
what
adding
three
more
vacancies
is
going
to
do
to
help
that
situation.
It
sounds
more
to
me
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
retention
of
the
attorneys
that
we
have
than
adding
more
vacancies.
B
G
So
that
was
a
combination
of
military
leave
and
also
current
market.
So,
for
example,
if
you
look
at
it
historically.
B
I
I
I
mean
I
understand
that
sim
I
just
what
I'm
not
understanding
is
how
we're
adding
three
more
vacancies
is
going
to
help
the
10
attorneys
with
their
case
load.
If
we
can't
fill
the
other
three
vacancies
that
we
already
have.
This
seems
to
me
to
be
more
of
a
retention
problem
than
it
is
a
vacancy
problem.
B
When
we
we
can't
keep
the
attorneys
that
we
have
now
minus
the
the
market
and
the
military
and
whatever.
I
think
the
important
conversation
that
needs
to
happen
is,
if
there's
a
problem
with
the
market
that's
going
on,
then
what
are
we
doing
to
ensure
that
we
can
have
and
retain
that?
We
are
a
part
of
a
competitive
market
and-
and
you
know,
I
don't
really
see
in
the
proposal
that
was
provided
and
even
with
some
of
the
questions
that
were
provided
and
answers
that
were
provided,
that
we're
looking
at.
B
G
Absolutely
and
and
katie,
please
chime
in
from
a
from
the
city
perspective.
We
have
raised
the
issue
with
the
with
the
our
partners
there.
My
understanding
is
hr
is
working
on
that
to
adjust
to
the
market,
to
the
best
way
that
they
can.
There
is
a
process
that
the
city
engages
in
that
for
that
purpose.
I
am
very
grateful
and
hopeful,
as
we
move
with
the
with
from
hr
that
they're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
G
F
F
You
know
whole
group
of
people
who've
gotten
a
raise,
and
then
we
have
to
come
back
to
you
and
say:
we've
just
been
carrying
that
with
our
salary
savings,
but
we
actually
need
a
budget
amendment
of
x
amount.
So
I
I
council
chair,
that's
that
would
be
an
appropriate
change.
I
think,
if
that's
the
direction
you'd
like
to
go.
B
I'd
like
to
look
at
and
and
have
hr,
follow
up
with
how
much
it
would
be
to
to
reclassify
be
able
to
talk
with
katie
as
the
director
of
the
department
to
what
that
looks
like
and
have
some
discussions
on
that
and
and
and
maybe
not
fund
all
three
of
these
ftes,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
move
that
over
to
I
mean
I
know
a
lot
of
people
that
have
left
the
city
prosecutor's
office
and
just
as
we've
been
talking
about.
B
You
know
how
we
have
police
leaving
all
the
time,
but
that
there's
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
and
money
to
to
train
a
new
prosecutor
or
a
new
attorney
and
to
make
sure
that
they're,
following
the
values
of
of
salt
lake
city
and
and
working
within
our
justice
court,
the
way
that
we
all
want
everybody
to
be
working.
And
so
for
me.
B
B
The
council
members
know
that's
where
I'm
at
right
now
and
then
and
then
hopefully,
if
we
can
reclassify,
then
we'll
be
able
to
fill
the
current
three
vacancies
that
we
have
and
if
we
were
to
fund
one
fte,
then
we'd
have
four
vacancies,
but
if
we're
reclassifying
and
making
it
a
little
bit
more
competitive
for
people,
then
we
could
fill
that
and
help
those
attorneys
that
are
there
to
to
lower
their
caseload.
So
that's
that's
what
I'm
thinking!
I
don't
know
what
other
council
members,
what
your
thoughts
are
at
that
that's
important.
G
On
that,
if
I
may
just
add
one
point,
the
the
last
four
that
that
we
had
who
left
their
cited
reason
was
the
excessive
workload
and-
and
I
take
your
point
so
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
addressing
the
market
pay
issue,
and-
and
my
point
simply
is
that
both
through
covet
and
through
the
workload
and
other
issues
that
have
come
up,
we
were
at
full
staff.
I
mean
it's
not
like.
G
We've
always
had
this
vacancies
in
place,
and,
and
so
this
is
the
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
and-
and
I
would
really
ask
that,
if
you're
going
to
make
that
change,
I
would
just
ask
that
you
at
least
let
us
have
two
prosecutors
and
at
least
a
victim
advocate,
and
take
that
one
position
for
the
reclassification
component
and
work
with
hr.
G
We.
What
we
need
to
be
able
to
communicate
to
our
folks
is
there
is
some
help.
That's
coming
to
not
put
too
far
off
a
point.
Mark
mathis
who's
here
with
me
will
tell
you
that
we
have
actually
leaned
into
salt
lake
county
d.a
prosecutors
to
cover
calendars,
because
we
didn't
have
enough
bodies
to
do
that.
G
To
be
able
to
do
our
work
and
given
the
bulge
of
cases
that
are
there
the
given
the
the
workload
that
we
already
have
existing,
it
is
just
a
very
untenable
position
for
us
to
be
in,
but
I
take
your
point:
councilman
a
woman
fowler
and
I
genuinely
appreciate
the
desire
to
do
a
market
response
as
well.
So
thank
you.
B
Well-
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
I
think
the
victim
advocate
when
I'm
talking
about
the
one
fte
I'm
talking
about
city
prosecutors,
the
victim
advocate
is
grant
funded
and
I
think
that
that
has
shown
to
be
has,
as
you
mentioned,
probably
helpful
in
kind
of
addressing
some
at
least
taking
some
of
the
weight
of
the
case
load
off
of
some
of
the
prosecutors.
B
H
Some
thoughts
because
I
don't
like
I
would
like
to
understand
how
much
time,
if
obviously
not
if
anyone.
A
H
Sim
has
spent
some
time
talking
about
police
reform
and
the
things
that
we
as
a
city
can
control
controlling,
cannot
control,
especially
after
the
protests
and-
and
you
know
in
the
cases
last
year
that
that
the
police
department
encountered-
and
I
remember
that
we
talked
about
some
things-
that
we
as
a
city
can
control
and
some
things
that
are
out
of
control
in
terms
of
the
police
department
and
and
the
the
job
description
and
the
protocols
that
they
need
to
follow
when
arresting
somebody
et
cetera,
et
cetera-
and
I
remember
seeing
say
you
know-
sim-
had
some
ideas
that
he
wanted
to
take
up
to
the
legislature
to
to
help
us
resolve
issues
that
we
shouldn't
have
to
be
dealing
with,
like
the
police
shouldn't
be
doing
so.
H
The
question
for
me
is:
would
this
new
ft's
work
on
any
of
this
at
the
legislature?
I
looking
at
our
police
reform
at
looking
at
what
are
the
do's
and
don'ts
that
should
be
clear-cut
in
our
in
the
book
that
they,
you
know
the
protocol
book
that
they
need
to
follow
because
of
the
several
litigation
issues
that
we
have
at
the
city.
H
F
Absolutely
thank
you
for
that.
So
the
council,
member
voldemort,
the
city
prosecutor's
job,
is
to
prosecute
crimes
that
are
charged
that
are
within
a
certain
level
of
of
crime,
so
the
the
d.a,
the
district
attorney
the
county
does
sim
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
here,
felonies
and
and
some
misdemeanors
and
the
city
prosecutor
does
all
misdemeanors.
F
Thank
you.
So
the
these
ftes
are
city
employees
that
are
prosecuting
those
misdemeanors
and
infractions
they're,
not
doing
the
policy
level
work
that
sim
talked
about,
and
that
is
so
important
for
us
to
do
at
the
legislature
that
that
would
occur
either
as
a
city
entity
and
really
be
part
of
the
city
attorneys
and
the
our
conversations
with
our
elected
officials
and
our
lobbyists
or
at
the
county,
the
district
attorney
and
those
employees
that
are
county
employees
who
are
doing
that
lobbying
and
legislative
work
on
their
behalf.
G
And
I
I
can't
answer
that.
Thank
you,
katie,
that
what
I
can
say
is
that,
in
terms
of
the
broader
issue
of
reform
within
the
criminal
justice
system,
in
terms
of
the
charging
of
these
individuals,
it
is
tied
directly
to
the
number
of
people
that
we
cite
and
we
enforce
those
misdemeanor
caseloads
and
their
entry
into
the
judicial
process.
G
There
is
some
value
to
think
about
outside
of
the
box,
at
the
rate
with
which
some
of
these
cases
are
enforcement
action,
and
are
there
other
alternatives
that
we
can
divert
those
cases,
so
they
don't
enter
into
that
system
and
what
that
community
response
may
look
like
as
a
part
of
the
enforcement
scheme.
But
katie
is
right
as
to
the
macro
policy
issues.
That's
a
city
function,
then
I
have
a
responsibility
as
my
role
as
the
d.a
and
the
role
that
I
play
on
that
policy
component
with
vis-a-vis
the
city.
G
I
mean
policy,
but
I
would
never
presume
to
go
out
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city
for
those
larger
policy
issues,
because
there's
a
very
qualified
staff
there
to
to
to
work
on
those
issues.
On
behalf
of
the
city.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
to
also
on
it
to
that
point,
as
you
remember
we've
last
year
we
had
a
legislative
intent
to
have
the
city
attorney's
office,
go
through
our
code,
our
criminal
at
the
city
criminal
code
and
see
what
we
could
decriminalize
so
that
it
it's
not
going
into
the
city
prosecutor's
office
and,
as
was
mentioned
the
other
day,
there
will
be
a
couple
of
law,
students
that
are
going
to
be
working
on
that
project.
B
Thank
you
again,
katie
and
then
I
think
that
that
is
more
of
any
policies
that
come
out
of.
That
would
be
more
for
us
and
our
lobbyists,
the
city
lobbyists
to
work
on
not
sim's
office.
So
you
know.
B
No
okay!
Well,
if
we
have
nothing
else.
Thank
you
sam.
Thank
you,
katie.
Thank
you,
scott
for
being
here.
Thank
you
mark,
and
I
do
just
want
to
say
another
huge
thank
you
to
katie
and
and
her
office
for
the
last
18
months
of
overtime,
I'm
sure
in
just
everything
we've
all
been
through
and
how
no
matter
what
you're
right
on
the
spot,
when
any
one
of
us
have
a
question
and
and
your
team
is
always
there.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that
katie.
It's
our
pleasure!
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
council
members,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
the
ims
department,
budget
and
sorry.
Let
me
pull
up
my
agenda.
B
We
have
kira
luke
from
council
staff
and
joseph
anthony
our
ims:
financial
manager,
noel
walking,
shot
the
deputy
director
administrative
services,
jason
strzok,
ims,
chief
information,
security
officer
and
aaron
bentley,
our
ims
chief
information
officer,
but
first
excuse
me:
I
will
turn
it
over
to
kira
and
I
may
turn
off
my
camera
here
for
a
minute,
but
I'm
still
here
thanks,
everyone
go
ahead,
kara.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
all
right.
Council
members,
the
ims
department
is
information
management
services
they're,
most
commonly
associated
with
providing
technical
assistance,
network
security,
hardware
and
software
for
city
departments,
as
technology
needs
in
recent
years
have
evolved,
so
has
ims's
role
in
supporting
city
staff
and
connections
to
city
constituents
through
budget
amendments.
Since
the
past
fiscal
year,
ims
has
expanded
to
include
a
new
gis
division
which
provides
support
for
data
collection,
mapping
added
the
city.
C
Civic
engagement
team
previously
housed
in
can
they're
now
part
of
the
media
services
division
and
created
a
new
innovations
team
to
help
guide.
Large
city-wide
project
implementations,
like
the
enterprise
resource
planning
software
ims,
also
has
a
role
in
enacting
the
city's
digital
equity
policy,
which
was
adopted
last
year.
C
The
rate
of
this
evolution,
as
you
can
imagine,
has
increased
exponentially
in
the
past
year,
as
many
city
departments
transitioned
to
telework
ims's
proposed
budget
for
this
fiscal
year
is
19
million
two
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
That's
a
fourteen
percent
increase
since
the
previous
fiscal
year.
C
C
This
is
one
of
the
largest
year-to-year
employee
increases
for
ims
in
recent
history.
There
have
actually
been
concerns
in
the
past
that
their
staff
wasn't
increasing
commensurately
with
the
number
of
city
staff.
They
typically
provide
support
to
you'll,
find
policy
questions
on
page
three
of
the
staff
report
covering
topics
like
the
staffing
needs,
network
security
and
digital
equity.
With
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
department
director,
aaron
bentley.
I
Thanks
kara
and
thanks
council
members,
what
we
have
today
is
a
brief
slide
show
that
we
want
to
go
through
with
you.
I
also
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
noel
walking
shaw
our
chief
innovation
officer,
part
of
this
budget
and
part
of
finance's
budget
is
the
erp
system
which
his
team
is
leading,
and
we
wanted
to
have
him
give
a
brief
update
on
that
and
then.
I
Finally,
if,
if
time
allows
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
apprenticeship
program
and
how
that
has
worked
out
in
our
department
and
turn
it
over
for
questions,
so
if
you
could
bring
up
our
slideshow
and
actually
if
we
can
skip
to
slide
three,
that
would
be
great
because
kira
covered
a
lot
of
what
we
wanted
to
talk
to.
I
And
I'm
not
seeing
it
refresh
yet,
but
maybe
it's
just
me.
The
slide
I
want
to
reference
was
the
innovations
division
which
null
leads
as
our
chief
innovation
officer.
I
When
we
talk
about
the
nine
ftes
that
have
come
to
ims,
this
is
a
general
effort
to
centralize
technology
and
information
across
the
city,
so
these
employees,
that
came
as
part
of
this
growth
were
employees
that
sat
in
different
departments.
As
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
noble
was
a
deputy
director
of
public
services,
but
a
long
time
had
been
working
with
myself
and
others
on
technology
projects
on
google
fiber
and
all
of
these.
I
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
actually,
let's
skip
to
slide
six,
which
is
perfectly
fine.
So
when
we
talk
about
the
key
changes,
we
have
our
contractual
increases.
This
is
with
all
the
software
solutions
we
have.
We
have
contracts
and
every
year
over
year,
they
increase
technology
and
influence.
Inflationary
increases
are
234
000
and
if
we
know
the
next
slide,
these
are
kind
of
the
requests
that
we
have
for
this
next
year.
As
we've
talked
to
council
and
mayor
staff
and
department
staff,
we've
realized
that
our
depart.
I
Our
our
city
website
really
needs
a
lot
of
work
done
to
it
to
be
more
usable
but
also
more
accessible
to
diverse
communities
and
we'll
be
working
on
that
with
these
enhancements
and
working
with
the
departments
and
with
your
staff
to
do
this,
we've
looked
at
language,
translation
services
and
other
similar
options
to
get
there
the
big
item
there
is
the
erp
system.
I
I
Our
base
the
base
changes
and
then
this
this
last
piece
is.
I
wanted
to
outline
the
six
fts
requested,
so
the
ftes
of
the
of
the
15
that
we
talked
about
the
growth
nine
of
those
were,
for,
I
would
say,
non-traditional.
I
t
jobs,
so
these
six
that
are
here
five
of
those
represent
traditional
I.t
jobs.
So
the
first
is
the
erp
manager
that
will
continue
on
and
help
through
this.
That
will
have
experience
in
the
erp
solution.
I
A
cyber
security
engineer,
a
unified
communication
engineer,
a
data
engineer
as
we
start
bringing
these
systems
together
and
try
to
drive
data
driven
decision
making
across
the
city.
This
person
will
be
responsible
for
meshing
that
data
together
and
assisting
departments
so
that
they
can
be
transparent
in
their
data,
but
also
use
data
collaborative
a
network
engineer
for
our
backup
and
wireless
systems,
and
then
the
last
is
a
civic
engagement
specialist.
I
As
you
may
remember,
liz
bueller
moved
to
the
innovations
team
as
part
of
the
creation
of
that,
and
this
is
to
fill
her
position
and
assist
with
the
demand
that
the
civic
engagement
group
has
and
that's
really
the
end
of
our
slides.
If
it's
all
right,
I'd
like
to
turn
the
time
over
shortly
to
know
walking
shaw,
I
think
he
may
have
a
something
he
wants
to
display
as
well,
but
noel
if
you'd
like
to
take
it
over
and
then
we'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
do
have
some
slides
if
we
could
start
with
the
project
overview
slide.
J
I
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
erp
project
and
and
and
what
that
means
from
the
city
it
it's
a
project
that,
as
you
saw
from
the
financial
ask,
is
it's
a
project
that
we
need
to
take
pretty
seriously
right.
It's
one
of
those
where
we're
making
a
big
investment
and
and
as
such,
we've
tried
to
take
a
very
structured
approach
to
go
about
doing
this
project
and
a
big
part
of
that
was
to
do
early
work
before
making
some
of
those
big
financial
decisions.
J
Erp
is
something
by
enterprise.
Resource
planning
by
its
title
doesn't
really
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense,
sometimes
so
we'll
refer
to
it.
Sometimes
as
pam
people
assets
and
money,
it's
a
little
easier.
I
think,
to
understand
what
we've
done
there
and
and
what
this
does
is.
It
brings
our
our
human
resources
services
into
a
common
database.
J
It
brings
our
financial
inventories
and
our
financial
services
into
the
same
place
as
our
our
people,
and
then
it
brings
also
the
information
around
our
assets
into
a
common
place,
and
so
it
gives
us
a
common
data
structure
and
to
to
start
working
from
in
it,
and
it
builds
a
lot
of
consistency
that
is
really
hard
to
have
when
you're
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
different
systems
that
were
created
over
time
to
speak
with
each
other.
J
If
you
could
scroll
up
just
a
little
bit
on
this
side.
Sorry,
this
is
a.
This
is
a
long
to
do
this.
We
started
with
a
team,
and
the
team
is
really
what
makes
this
project
work.
We've
we've
gone
with
a
very
formal
team
structure
in
that
we've
developed
sponsors
and
we
report
to
our
sponsors
and
we
keep
our
sponsors
in
informed
of.
What's
going
on,
it's
lisa,
schaefer,
marybeth,
thompson,
deb,
alexander
and
jen
bruno
has
been
participating
in
this.
J
J
J
J
We
also
took
our
team
through
organizational
change
management
training,
because
we
know
that
we
need
to
support
the
organization's
shift
to
this
new
way
of
doing
business
and
that
really
makes
or
breaks
the
success
of
this
this
project.
It's
it's
not
how
great
the
system
is,
it's,
how
well
we're
willing
to
use
it
and
that's
what
change
management
does
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
which
is
the
existing
tech.
J
I
want
to
talk
about
something
else
that
we've
done
along
the
way
is:
we've,
we've
also
contracted
with
an
organization
called
gfoa,
the
government
finance
officers
association
and
with
that
contract.
What
we're
asking
them
to
do
is
to
support
us
in
the
contract
to
be
they.
They
work
in
this
space
across
the
nation.
J
We've
also
asked
them
to
help
us
with
a
rewrite
of
our
chart
of
accounts.
In
the
technical
terms,
the
chart
of
accounts
is
known
as
the
foundational
data
model.
It's
the
it's
the
that
foundation
of
the
system
that
allows
us
to
do
all
of
that
detailed
reporting
and
getting
into
the
weeds
for
developing
budgets
and
getting
the
information
out
of
the
system
that
we
want.
Our
current
chart
of
accounts
has
evolved
over
time
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
translate
into
a
new
system
real
well,
so
we
need
to
go
through
that
structure.
J
Restructure
of
all
of
that
information,
we've
asked
them
to
help
us
with
a
business
process.
Alignment
to
help
us
with
you
know
understanding
that.
Yes,
these
changes
in
how
we
do
procurement.
These
changes
in
how
we
do
accounts
payable
these
changes
in
how
we
do
certain
elements
of
human
resources
are
those
industry
best
practices,
and
so
we
have
a
guide
along
the
way,
not
just
the
technology
support
to
make
that
happen,
and
then
we've
asked
them
to
also
help
us
with
developing
or
or
supporting
our
policy
review.
J
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
it's
a
new,
it's
a
completely
different
pdf.
Do
you
have
that?
I
saw
it
in
the
tab.
I
think
it's
the
furthest
to
the
right.
There
you
go.
This
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
sample
of
where
we're
at.
We
have
one
solution
which
is
our
primary
financial
system
and
and
then
we
try
to
plug
all
of
these
different
systems
into
it.
One
solution
was
implemented
in
1993
and
over
time,
we've
developed
a
bunch
of
systems
and
we've
purchased
a
handful
of
systems.
J
J
J
We
you
will
be
able
to
pass
through
all
of
that
different
information
for
the
that
and
at
a
modern
architecture,
with
connections
just
to
our
departmental
services
like
permitting
or
asset
development
document
management,
crm
things
like
that,
and
we
will
be
able
to
be
able
to
cross
and
share
information
between
those
two
pieces.
J
I
think
I
think.
Lastly,
we
can
close
this.
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
timeline,
so
you
understand
the
scope
of
that
we've
taken
a
long
time
to
get
to
where
we
are
and
it
is
paying
off,
because
we
know
ourselves
well
and
we
prepared
for
this,
because
preparation
for
this
project
is
super
important.
J
We
are
hopeful
to
have
the
contract
in
place
by
the
end
of
this
month
and
we
will
be
kicking
that
off.
We
will
begin
working
with
developing
the
human
resources
and
payroll
payroll
is
an
area
where
we
really
need
to
do
some
work
quickly,
we're
hoping
and
expecting
planning
to
have
that
work
done
in
12
months
about
six
months
into
that
project.
J
We
will
start
on
the
core
financial
piece
and
that
itself
will
take
about
12
months,
so
that
will
have
the
core
financials
contracts,
grants
and
then
analytic
services
that
sit
upon
that
throughout
that
process
we
will
be
turning
on
things
as
they
are
ready,
we're
not
going
for
the
big
bang
where
we
wait
till
we
get
everything
done
and
then
we
flip
it
on
and
yeah.
So
that's
about
where
we
are.
I've
been
trying
to
stay
quiet
because
or
trying
to
stay
quick
on
this
because
I'm
known
to
be
an
overtalker.
J
So
I
talk
too
much
so
I'm
I'm
open
for
questions
on
that.
B
Council
members
are
there
any
questions
on
this
and
thank
you,
noel
and
aaron
for
this
presentation
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
erp
pam
magic.
D
B
D
I
just
have
a
statement
mainly
and
that's
no,
you
think
you
talk
too
much
because
you
dive
into
all
the
cool
projects
and
you
get
to
really
do
a
lot
of
fixing
you're
the
fixture
I've
known
for
years
and
years.
So
I'm
excited
for
what
you're
doing
and
everything
that
you've
done
in
the
past,
because
everything
you
do
comes
out
as
a
win.
So
thanks
for
this.
B
Well,
I
don't
see
any
questions
from
council
members.
Excuse
me,
so
I
thank
you
guys
for
your
time
today
and
for
this
presentation
and
look
forward
to
learning
more
and
seeing
all
of
this
in
action.
Council
members
at
this
time.
There
are
a
couple
of
us
that
need
to
take
a
quick
break,
and
so
mostly
I
do
for
something
no,
but
dennis
has
another
little
thing,
so
we're
going
to
take
probably
just
a
about
a
15-minute
break
since
we're
actually
going
through
things
pretty
quickly.
B
K
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
B
Looks
like
we
have
a
quorum,
so
I
know
that
darren
will
be
back
in
a
minute
and
hopefully
dennis
will
be
back
in
a
minute
and
I'm
hoping
that
james
is
around
here
somewhere.
So
let's
just
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Council
members,
we
are
on
budget
item
number
five,
which
is
our
unresolved
issues,
and
we
have
jen
bruno
here
with
us
and
jen.
I
don't.
B
L
Yeah
sure
so
this
is
where
we
start
actually
straw
polling
and
trying
to
balance
the
budget
based
on
council
member
feedback
and
council
member
interests.
So
for
the
council's
information,
I
forwarded
a
the
latest
version
of
this
spreadsheet
at
12
55.
L
I
believe
it
was
and
I'm
ready
to
screen
share
if
and
when
the
council
feels
ready
to
go
through
kind
of
the
different
line
items
and
discuss
that
one
thing
that
we
were
realizing
as
staff
is
there's
so
many
different
funding
sources
this
year
for
things,
and
so
one
thing
that
we're
thinking
of
from
the
council
is,
if
you
could
just
give
us
some
general
guidance
on
what
you're
interested
in
funding
and
we
can
have
like
a
general
sense
of
the
order
of
magnitude,
whether
it's
a
small
item
or
a
big
item,
then
staff
can
work
and
figure
out
which
funding
source
or
how
that
makes
sense
to
fund
some
of
the
things
are
really
simple
and
straightforward
and
other
things
are
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
L
That's
just
one
aspect
and
madame
chair,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
start
and
jump
right
in
or
if
you
wanted
to
frame
it
a
little
more.
B
Now,
let's,
let's
jump
in
kids,
I
hope
you
all
have
your
spreadsheets
that
are
color-coded
and
jen
can
explain
some
of
the
colored
coding
I
do
want
to.
I
know
that
several
of
us
have
spoken
and
or
shown
interest
in
one
of
the
suggestions
that
was
made
by
matrix,
which
is
this
civil
service
office
idea
of
having
a
pilot
program.
I
don't
know
why
I
always
want
to
call
it
a
co-pilot
program
anyway.
B
So
if
I
say
that
I'm
sorry
but-
and
I
spoke
to
a
couple
of
you
on
the
phone
about
this
idea
and
I'm
kind
of
calling
it
the
alternative
response
model-
and
originally,
I
think
that
we
had
talked
about
there-
was
some
some
money
that
wasn't
going
to
be
spent.
That
was
in
the
non-departmental
area,
and
that
was
on
jen's
spreadsheet
from
tuesday.
B
This
alternative
response
model,
but
I
talked
to
jen
today
and
I
think
what
we
could
actually
do
is
based
on
our
goals
and
our
discussions
and
what
we've
told
the
public
about
our
funding,
our
future
dollars
that
you
know
this
originally
was
for
public
safety,
and
I
think
the
original
intent
was
towards
the
police
and
we've
sort
of
expanded
that
a
bit,
and
so
we
could.
Potentially,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
throwing
this
out.
B
There
is
take
from
funding
our
future
take
about
two
million
dollars
and
put
it
in
a
holding
account
for
this
model,
this
new
model,
so
that
we're
ready
to
do
a
pilot
program
and
we
can
fund
it
right
away.
B
The
other
thing
I
would
want
to
tell
council
members
is
that
I
spoke
with
one
of
the
rep
commissioners
and
they
last
night
adopted
their
recommendations
and
one
of
their
recommendations
is
to
look
at
this
alternative
response
model,
and
so
one
of
the
ideas
I
I
had
was
that
we
sort
of
work
with
our
staff,
because
at
this
point
we
don't
know
where
this
pilot
program
would
exist
like
which
office
is
best
to
handle
it
or
something.
So
through
working
with
matrix,
our
staff
and
the
administration
and
the
commissioners
with
the
rep.
B
They
would
kind
of
work
together
to
say
what
is
the
structure?
How
many
ftes
would
we
need?
Who
would
be
housed
there
where's
the
best
place
for
this
department
or
this
division
or
this
office
to
be
housed
and
kind
of
work
on
that
for
a
little
bit
before
we
do
the
pilot
program,
but
then,
once
that
structure
is
kind
of
in
place
and
we
feel
like
we're
ready
to
launch
we'd,
have
this
holding
account
money
there
to
be
able
to
launch
the
pilot
program.
L
And
mountain
churchill,
just
to
clarify
for
council
members
that
funding
our
future
dollars,
that
we
identified
were
fund
balance
technically
fund
balance
in
funding
our
future.
This
would
mean
that
funding
our
future
fund
balance
would
still
be
above
the
14,
but
that
fund
balance
was
a
little
bit
higher,
and
so
we
just
we
noted
that
as
the
potential
source-
and
I
can't
see
people's
videos
so.
B
Yeah,
council
members,
so
what
we
thought
about
doing
you
know
this
idea
of
of
putting
this
two
million
over
in
an
account
for
this
alternative
response
model
pilot
program
frees
up
some
other
money
for
some
of
the
other
starred.
I
items
that
council
members
have
brought
up,
and
so
what
jenna
and
I
had
talked
about
doing
in
sort
of
how
we
could
kind
of
frame
this
discussion
as
jen
will
go
through
those
this
starred,
the
council
starred
items
and
talk
about
those
one
by
one,
and
I
saw
cindy
pop
on
so
cindy.
M
Thanks
just
that,
I
want
to
emphasize
what
jennifer
said,
as
as
we
as
staff
went
through
this
over
the
past
few
days
and
earlier
today.
It's,
I
think
if
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
worrying
about
which
source
you're
pulling
your
recommendation
from.
Usually
we
need
you
to
do
that,
but
this
year,
because
there's
such
a
large
number
of
sources,
it's
more
important
for
us
to
hear
which
items
you
want
to
fund
and
then
then.
M
So,
if,
if,
for
example,
council
chair
fowler
just
suggested
using
a
source
that
you
wanted
to
use
for
some
other
item,
it
might
not
matter
because
we
we
can
move
a
lot
of
the
sources
around.
So
so
don't
let
the
source
be
the
barrier.
M
If
you
could
just
please
focus
on
what
you
need
to
fund
then,
and
you
guys
can
come
to
conclusions,
then
we
will
be
able
to
take
it
from
there
work
with
the
administration
and
then
come
back
back
to
you.
So
that's
just
an
unusual
suggestion.
It's
different
than
what
we've
done
other
years,
but
just
we
do
have
some
unique
situations
this
year
with
the
varying
array
of
fun
balance,
funds,
sources.
B
B
Okay,
so
jen,
if
you
want
to
go
through
those
start
items,
and
then
council
members
with,
as
you
all
know,
with
the
shared
screen,
it's
hard
for
me
to
see
everybody's
titles.
So
there's
no
need
to
raise
your
hand
or
ask
questions
just
please
or
to
ask
permission:
please
just
go
ahead
and
jump
in
if
you
have
something
to
say
or
want
to
propose
a
straw
poll
on
these
items
or
things
like
that.
It's
gonna
work
pretty
informal
right
now,
because
we
just
really
need
to
talk
this
out
and
get
it
get
it
done.
So.
L
I
was
actually
just
going
to
ask
that
if
you
guys
wanted
to
straw,
pull
that
that's
a
pretty
big,
that
would
be
a
pretty
big
help
in
terms
of
direction.
N
Sure
I
recommend
a
straw
poll
on
chairman
fowler's
comments
on
this
alternative
response
model
pilot
program
and
I'd
like
to
include
some
traffic
enforcement
in
that
whole
study.
But
I
propose
a
straw
poll.
L
I'll
make
that
note
to
specify
that
includes
traffic
enforcement.
I
think
that's
consistent
with
the
what
staff
was
understanding.
L
D
I
have
a
question
in
regards
to
the
traffic
enforcement.
Yes,
you
can
put
an
individual
who
is
not
trained
for
these
types
of
situations
in
extreme
danger.
So
if
we
can
make
sure
that
if
this
is
a
study,
that's
going
out
that
this
type
of
questioning
will
be
put
out
there
for
that,
I
don't
ever
want
to
see
somebody
that
is
not
trained
to
do
any
sort
of
enforcement
traffic
or
otherwise
be
put
in
a
situation.
I
mean
you
can
get
on
youtube
and
see
these
things
and
see.
D
M
And
in
all
cases,
I
think
safety
would
be
paramount
paramount
of
safety
of
the
employees,
safety
of
the
public.
Everyone's
safety
has
to
be
at
the
top
of
the
list,
and
the
same
is
so
with
the
social
work,
questions
that
are
being
asked
how
social
workers
are
deployed
and
what
works
best
in
terms
of
what
the
administration
is
thinking
and
and
all
those
things.
So
we
can
emphasize
that
in
the
language
that
we
prepare,
but
I
think
everyone's
thinking
it
anyway.
D
B
Well,
I
I
agree
with
you.
James
safety
is
paramount
and
I
think
that's
why
it's
important
that
we
work
with
matrix,
who
has
seen
this
done
in
other
cities
and
has
some
experience
with
that
as
we
used
to
and
create
this
group
that
I'm
suggesting
that
to
make
sure
that
all
of
those
concerns
are
answered
and
we
were
having
a
strong
foundation
to
to
start
with.
So
I'm
100
with
you
on
that.
D
I'm
on
board
and
I'm
I'm
not
trying
to
debunk
this
or
put
it
on
the
on
the
back
burners.
But
I
still
think
that,
if
we're
looking
at
this
too,
we
should
look
and
see
what
what
type
of
equipment
our
officers
aren't,
that
don't
have
and
have
matrix.
Look
at
that
as
well
to
make
sure
that
they're
equipped
to
have
the
everything
that
they
need.
M
Okay
and-
and
that
really
was
new
information
today
so
and
ben-
has
already
made
the
request
for
that
information.
L
So
I
think
I
saw
a
straw
poll
from
everyone,
except
I
think,
councilmember
ferris
joined
in
the
middle
and
then
council
member
paul
de
morose.
I
think
I
did.
H
L
Right,
those
are,
those
are
additional
optional
items
that
have
come
up
from
the
council
relating
to
the
social
worker
program,
and
so
these
are
not
included
in
the
budget
unless
the
council
adds
them.
I
think
that
our
my
intention
was
to
go
to
those
items
next,
because
they're
related
to
this
pilot
program
concept,
but
potentially
separate
in
the
immediate
term.
So
in
the
immediate
term,
social
workers
might
not
be
a
part
of
this
alternative
response
model.
L
I
think
longer
term,
it's
entirely
possible
that
they
are,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
go
to
those
next,
madam
chair,
and
maybe
after
this
straw,
hole.
B
Yeah,
that's
fine,
so
straw
poll
of
the
the
idea
of
the
co
or
the
alternative
response
model,
two
million
dollars
in
a
holding
account
and
we
had
a
shop.
I
had
a
thumbs
up
from
me.
James
dan
looks
like
anna
I'm
scrolling
chris
and
dennis
so.
B
E
And
other
clarification,
sorry,
so
this
is
all
and
I'm
sorry
if
this
is
a
repeat
this
is
all
sending
our
future
dollars.
L
L
A
couple
years
ago,
you
expanded
it
to
include
fire.
I
think
in
this
case
you
could
expand
it
to
include
traffic
enforcement,
non-emergent
response
and
social
workers
potentially
dispatch.
I
think
might
also
be
something
to
consider,
since
that
was
actually
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
We
just
clarify
that.
M
Oh
councilmember,
wharton
in
case
you
were
just
still
signing
on
when
I
said
this.
The
sources
some
of
you
are
relying
on
the
same
sources
for
different
proposals,
and
this.
E
M
One
of
the
few
years
where
the
source
is
more
flexible
than
usual,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
you
need
to
focus
as
much
on
the
source
as
you
do
on
what
it
is
you'd
like
to
fund
so
because
you
can
go
crazy,
trying
to
figure
out
who's
doing
which
source.
M
E
M
C
M
E
Yeah
and
then
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
add
is
I
I
totally
agree
with
what
james
is
saying.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
like
put
people
in
danger
and
I
don't
want
to
create
an
alternative.
E
You
know
program
where
people
are
armed,
and
so
I
understand
that
there's
issues
there,
but
it's
kind
of
you
add
that
to
this
sort
of
washing
machine
discussion
that
we've
had
ever
since
I've
been
on
the
council
too,
where
neighbors
are
like
there's:
zero
traffic
enforcement
in
my
neighborhood
like
no
one
even
comes
to
issue
tickets
and
it's
because
we're
like
well,
you
know,
officers
are
very
expensive
and
all
their
equipment's
expensive
and
it's
not
the
best
use
of
taxpayer
money
to
have
officers
out
issuing
tickets
because
it
doesn't
ever
generate
enough
revenue
and
like
so
I
keep
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
between
those
two
things
and-
and
you
know
swirling
all
around.
E
E
That's
that
that
is
absolutely
true
as
well,
and
I'm
hoping
that
that
we
can
address
that
at
some
point
in
this
budget.
L
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
maybe
the
one
that
makes
sense
to
go
to
next
is
what
council
member
bald
morris
was
asking
about,
and
it's
a
grouping
of
items
and
so
I'll
call
the
council's
attention
to
lines
111
through
114.
L
L
L
It's
a
total
placeholder
amount,
I'll
just
say
that
there's
not
a
specific
leasable
space.
We
have
in
mind
that
we
calculated
out,
and
so
that
amount
could
be
too
high
or
too
low,
but
the
administration
could
certainly
come
back
in
a
budget
amendment
to
clarify
that.
I
think
it
also
probably
depends
on
how
many
how
many
social
workers
there
are
probably
determines
how
much
space
they
need.
So
it
felt
like
a
little
bit
of
a
linked
discussion
so
but
that'll
open
it
to
discussion.
L
C
N
I
mean
I'm
in
favor
of
adding
the
the
social
workers.
I
think
that
program
is
a
worthy
cause,
especially
if
we
could
use
that
with
the
mrt
program
that
we
kind
of
do
around
when
we
were
talking
with
that
chief
leeb
now
is
it
a
full
fix?
Do
we
need
that,
and
we
want
to
go
all
the
way
there
at
this
time,
or
is
that
overloading
the
program
I'm
up
for
discussion
on
that.
M
M
I
think
of
what
the
council
has
been
talking
about
in
terms
of
of
changing
the
way
that
the
part
of
the
police
systems
function.
So
so
I
think
if
you,
if
it's
your
priority,
you
should
fund
it
so
that
because
your
budget
is
what
articulates
your
priority
and
then
the
administration
can
come
back
with
whatever
adjustments
they
recommend
or
that
type
of
a
thing.
But
but
what
you're?
Expressing
in
adopting
your
budget?
M
Is
your
policy
and
budget
priority?
It's
hard
to
explain
to
the
general
public
that
well,
we
wanted
to
fund
social
workers,
but
they
weren't
ready
and
the
general
public
is
not
very
accepting
of
that.
It's
your
the
city
council
fund,
what
it
is
you
have
as
your
highest
priority.
So
that's
just
my
suggestion
to
you.
K
Yeah
with
that,
I
I'm
I'm
interested
in
funding
the
social
workers,
but
I
also
realize
that
we're
sort
of
reinventing
this
program
to
a
certain
degree
I
mean
we're
expanding
it
greatly.
We've
also
talked
about
connecting
it
with
the
mrt,
which
is
housed
in
the
fire
department,
which
is
different
than
what
they're
currently
doing,
which
is
working
with
police
officers
housed
in
the
police
department.
So
I
I
think
there
may
be
a
lot
of
sort
of
adjustment
that
happens,
but
could
we
fund
the
ftes
in
a
way?
K
Delivery
model
delivery,
people
for
services
related
to
mental
health
and
substance
abuse,
and
then
would
it
be
easy
enough
if
they
were
to
come
back
and
say
actually
we
need
only
this
number
of
social
workers,
but
we
need
these
three
other
people
that
we
never
really
knew
until
we
started
doing
this
program
that
aren't
necessarily
social
workers,
but
they
have
this
other
kind
of
training.
K
Is
that
something
would
just
be
a
budget
amendment,
or
I
guess
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
fund
this,
and
I
want
to.
I
want
to
do
what
cindy's
just
said
is
earmarking
this
money
as
our
council's
priority,
but
also
building
enough
flexibility
that,
if
there's
some
other
fte
that's
needed?
That's
not
a
social
worker
that
we
don't
even
understand
that
they
could
come
back,
and
let
us
know
about
that.
M
Sure-
and
that's
not
difficult
to
do-
we
can
come
up
with
some
language
for
you
to
look
at
and
we'll
run
it
by
the
administration
too.
It
they
would.
It
would
have
to
be
ftes
listed
in
the
staffing
document,
but
there
could
be
some
flexibility
and
we're
already
planning
on
flexibility
because
of
the
the
rpt
group
rep.
I
said
it
wrong.
Racial
equity
and
policing
group.
L
I
was
going
to
say:
maybe
maybe
one
way
to
do
it
so
that
you're
not
hiring
people
and
then
having
to
not
under
unhire
them.
In
order
to
change
the
position,
I
think
you
could
put
it
in
terms
of
having
the
administration
report
back
to
the
council
before
hiring
or
before
implementing.
I
don't.
D
Know
that's
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
to
jennifer,
but
another
thing
I
want
we
need
to.
I
feel
like
being
part
of
the
council
that
funded
the
social
workers
to
begin
with,
and
I
fought
actually
not
to
have
them
in
the
police
department,
but
eventually
we
did
put
them
in
and
now
it
looks
like
we're
trying
to
put
them
out
again.
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
track
and
have
that
data
to
say
of
the
calls
of
these
individuals
that
are
in
this
arp.
D
Is
that
what
we're
calling
it
amy,
how
many
their
calls
how
many
of
them
had
to
have
police
presence?
You
know
I.
I
think
that
is
extremely
important
for
us
to
know
for
a
data
point
and
knowing
once
they
are
implemented
when
they
are
in
calls.
How
many
times
are
they
on
those
calls
having
to
call
the
police
out
to
help
them.
H
O
B
B
M
O
O
If
I
may,
I
think
that's
pretty
darn
close.
Yes,
I
but
the
social
worker
system
already
exists
in
the
ccc.
They
do
need
more
social
workers
in
that
program
regardless,
so
we
can
use,
certainly
use
those
social
workers
right
away
and
then
yeah
just
be
flexible
and
nimble
so
that
we
can
adapt
as
we
go
as
we
go
on
after
we
figure
out
what
the
new
program
might
look
like.
L
And
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
natural
part
of
the
conversation
of
that
for
lack
of
a
better
with
that
two
million
dollar
holding
account
right.
I
think
that
there
are
aspects
to
so
many
different
existing
things
in
the
city
that
could
relate
to
that.
L
So
these
are
just
my
very
basic
words,
but
if
any
council
members
have
other
ideas
for
how
to
word
that,
and
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
include
a
legislative
intent
for
your
january
or
january
for
your
june
8th
meeting
to
confirm
that
we've
captured
what
you
guys
have
in
mind
with
this
budget,
and
I
think
maybe
the
chair
just
went
off
screen.
But
I
think
I'm
thinking
that
there
was
a
straw
poll
request.
N
D
I,
like
that
straw
poll,
and
until
I
see
oh
there
she
is,
I
was
gonna
take
over
there.
You
go
amy.
B
L
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
reading
them
off.
It
helps
the
city
recorder.
That's
worse,
so
the
other
item
linked
to
that
is
this
lease
space,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
council
felt
strong.
A
majority
of
the
council
felt
strongly
about
whether
or
not
that
function
should
be
in
the
public
safety
building
or
a
different
location.
B
I
think
for
me,
council
members,
that
this
particular
item
is
not
really
important
for
me
right
now,
because
again
we
already
have
that
co-responder
model
and
it's
working
right
now
and
we
don't
want
to
disrupt
that,
while
we're
kind
of
figuring
out
this
other
model
and
if,
when
we
figure
out
this
other
model,
we
we
may
come
back
and
say
yeah.
They
need
office
space
or
something,
but
that
that
may
come
later.
I
mean
that
might
be
like
next
year's
budget.
Even
that's
my
opinion.
K
Chair,
I
I
was
also
thinking
in
relation
to
that.
It
seems
to
me
like
right
now.
The
ccc
is
currently
call
it
correspondent,
because
they're
responding
to
calls
and
less
of
a
drop-in
center
for
people
to
like
show
up
and
then
there's
also
the
mental
health
receiving
center.
That
was
funded
and
I
think
it's
supposed
to
come
online
in
the
next
year
right.
Am
I
correct
on
that.
So
to
me
it
does
seem
like
having
them
respond
out
of
the
psb
may
be
fine.
K
So
I
think
I'm
with
you
on,
let's
wait
to
see
unless
we've
received
other
direction
from
director
waters
or
anyone
else
that
that
I
have
missed,
but
it
seems
like
it's,
maybe
not
necessary
to
me
as
well.
So
I
think
I'm
with
you
on
that.
E
One
detail
I
can
add:
the
state
funded
receiving
center
is
not
supposed
to
open
for
another
two
years
and
there
are
multiple
receiving
centers
on
the
way,
including
the
new
huntsman
mental
health
center.
At
the?
U
of?
U
campus,
which
is
not
open
now
and
may
also
be
two
years
away
and
then
there's
another
one
in
south
salt
lake.
But
it's
relatively
small
and
it's
under
construction.
O
So,
just
to
clarify
the
one
in
south
salt
lake
is
the
huntsman
receiving
center
and
they
just
broke
ground
within
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
It's
gonna
be
a
while,
so
that's
quite
a
ways
out,
and
secondly
the
forgive
me,
but
this
is
actually
pretty
important
to
me.
The
ccc
does
need
a
space
of
its
own
based
on
the
mission
that
it
is
serving.
O
They
are
currently
in
the
public
safety
building
because
just
because
of
losing
the
lease
and
in
the
space
that
they
were
and
where
they
were
next
door
to
the
old
road
home,
so
they're
just
treading
water
right
now
in
the
psb,
and
it
has
definitely
impacted
their
services
having
the
psb
close
to
the
public
entirely,
and
it
certainly
reduces
access
to
them,
but
also,
just
frankly,
it's
frightening
for
the
population
to
be
able
to
interact
with
their
case
managers.
O
So
I
would
very
much
prefer
to
move
forward
with
leasing
a
separate
space
for
them
and
then
that
also
allows
to
be
able
to
place
that
somewhere
in
you
know
like
north
temple,
somewhere
on
a
high
pro
high
profile
area.
That
needs
a
little
bit
additional
police
presence
and
as
well
as
that
social
worker
interaction
with
the
population
involved.
K
L
The
least
space
before
was
included
in
the
can
budget
under
the
homeless
services
line
item
and
it
was
removed
from
the
canned
budget
because
they
were
no
longer
leasing.
The
space
there
was
kind
of
a
chicken
and
then
I
think
the
space
went
away,
and
so
there
was
no
longer
a
need
to
pay
and-
and
so
rather
than
find,
and-
and
I
think
there
were
discussions
over
this
last
year-
trying
to
find
space.
But
those
discussions
never
and
probably
covered.
O
L
That
was
a
question
that
our
staff
asked
that
we
haven't
had
time
to
track
down.
You
know
that
we
haven't
received
an
answer
on
and
haven't
had
time
to
track
down.
I
know
that
in
the
past
that
we've
been
looking
at
the
library
they,
I
think
the
library
would
still
charge
a
lease
but
you're
right.
If
it
was
located
in
a
city
building
it,
we
wouldn't
have
to
pay
a
lease.
E
Just
a
thought,
the
previous
location
for
the
community
connect
connection
center
needed
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
renovations.
So
even
if
there
is
a
city-owned
property,
it
may
need
funding
for
renovations.
So
perhaps
the
funding
for
leasing
and
or
renovations.
So
there's
some
built-in
flexibility
as
an
option.
L
Okay
and
just
we've
received
some
new
information
from
the
administration
that
they
did
look
at
the
library
space
and
it's
too
small,
and
that
if
additional
social
workers
are
added,
the
public
safety
building
will
likely
be
too
small
as
well.
H
O
O
Now
they
have
gone
away
from
the
vast
majority
of
their
drop-in
services,
but
they
still
very
often
have
to
deal
with
issues
with
the
clients.
You
know
whether
it's
if
you're
trying
to
get
them
if
they've
lost
their
birth
certificate
and
you're
trying
to
do
the
paperwork.
You
need
to
go
back
to
the
office
and
get
in
front
of
a
computer
and
start
sending
emails
or
filling
out
the
forms
to
be
able
to
ship
those
out.
O
All
of
that
takes
a
space
and
a
space
that
you,
you
certainly
have
a
much
better
chance
of
doing
that
effectively.
If
the
client
is
comfortable
in
that
space
and
having
it
in
the
public
safety
building,
that
is
behind
locked
doors
and
with
so
many
people
in
uniform
surrounding
you,
it
can
be
intimidating
so
yeah
just
to
I
don't
know,
did
that
answer
your
question
anna
sure.
H
Yeah,
it
does
a
little
bit,
but
also-
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
call
them
clients
or
or
patients
or
you
know
in
in
the
nonprofit
world,
you
call
them
clients,
I
think
yeah.
We.
H
People
that
you
help
so
these
clients
that
visited
the
ccc
group
are,
these
are
walk-ins,
and
so
somebody
that
might
be
home
might
be
homeless
or
not,
can
go
to
the
ccc
and
say
hey.
I
need
help
with
my
birth
certificate.
I
don't
have
any
documentation,
I've
been
having
issues,
and
I
don't
know
what
to
do
or
how
does
it
work.
O
It's
possible,
but
it's
not
their
primary
focus
right
now.
They
have
switched
to
the
co-responder
model
so
that,
instead
of
hanging
out
in
the
office
waiting
for
people
to
come
to
them,
they're
frankly
in
the
cars
with
the
sworn
officers,
responding
to
calls
to
be
able
to
deal
with
the
issues
de-escalate
the
situation
in
that
moment
and
then
continue
with
ongoing
case
management
with
those
people,
hopefully
to
be
able
to
help
them
out
with
whatever
issues
they've
got
going
on.
O
D
So,
madam
chair,
I
have
a
suggestion
for
this.
We
have
the
real
estate
guru
and
his
mind.
Just
escaped
me.
I
would
just
say
that
we,
what
was
that
dan
rip?
Thank
you
if
we
would
just
throw
it
at
dan
and
let
him
talk
to
them
and
come
back
with
a
scenario
I
think
that's
going
back
and
forth
doesn't
help
so.
B
I
think
yes
james.
Thank
you.
I
think
the
question
here
is:
do
we
support
the
funding
of
it
where
a
building
is
if
there's
a
building?
If
we
have
to
you
know
figure
out
more
space
on
the
moon,
I
think
is
not
necessarily
for
us
to
answer
at
this
point.
The
question
is:
do
we
allocate
money
towards
something
like
that?
Even
if
it
at
this
point
may
not
be
quite
enough
and
they
would
have
to
come
back
for
it,
it's
showing
an
intent
that
we
are
allocating
money
for
a
building.
B
C
K
H
But
but
also
make
sure
jen
it
says,
like
ben
said,
if
we
could
put
some
flexibility
there,
that
could
be
police
or
for
repairs
of
an
existing
city
building.
L
Let's
see.
Okay.
The
last
item
relating
to
this
general
topic
in
non-departmental
is
some
council
members
have
expressed
an
interest
in
expanding
the
visibility
if
you
will
analytical
properties
of
the
existing
body
camera
footage
by
using
some
of
the
technology
that's
offered
by
the
by
the
contractor
that
we
contract
with
for
body
camera
services.
L
There
are,
I
I
know
just
enough
about
it
to
not
know
much
and
so
I'll
rely
on
my
colleagues
to
pipe
in,
if
I'm
not
explaining
this
correctly,
but
like
speech,
recognition,
situational
recognition,
things
like
that,
I
don't
know
if
ben
or
kyra
or
cindy
want
to
pop
in
and
explain
more,
but
there
was
a
menu
of
items
and
the
total
was
about
350
000.
E
B
K
This,
madam
chair,
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
I
know
which
is
probably
less
than
jen.
I
think
this
is
really
powerful
and
it
seems
like
it's
a
way
to
use
body
camera
footage
too,
in
a
way
that
is
effective
could
be
colorblind.
I
think,
because
we're
analyzing
words
and
we're
analyzing
situations
not
through
a
computer,
not
a
person,
so
I
think
it's
a
really
good
way
for
us
to
create
better
transparency
and
accountability.
So
I'm
supportive
of
this.
N
And
I'm
I'm
assuming
that
this
is
going
to
make
the
process
a
lot
more
efficient,
too
and
less
time
consuming
from
someone
who
has
to
gather
and
research
that
data
from
the
body
camera.
So
it
should
have
a
couple
improvements
in
there,
and
I
is
that
true
ben.
It's
going
to
be
less
time
consuming
for
a
someone
to
look
at
that
data
like
as
an
audit
yeah
as
an
artist
yeah.
How
is
how
and
actually
how
it's
gathered.
E
That's
correct:
it
does
have
savings
and
operational
efficiencies
for
auditing
of
the
body,
camera
videos,
for
example.
You
can
identify
specific
keywords
and
phrases
that
will
be
identified
in
the
transcription
service
of
the
camera
video
if
the
keyword
is
pinged
for
that
video,
such
as
an
expletive
or
a
certain
derogatory
term,
then
that
video
is
prioritized
in
the
list
of
all
the
thousands
of
videos,
so
a
supervisor
can
quickly
see
which
videos
are
prioritized
at
the
top
of
the
list.
C
M
M
Yeah,
I
would
also
say,
though,
that
it,
while
it's
more
efficient
and
it's
more
there's
more
transparency
associated
with
it,
it
isn't
like
it'll,
save
staff,
posit
it'll,
free
up
staff
positions
or
anything
like
that,
because
at
the
same
time,
you're
investing
in
this
we've
also
been
implementing
the
body
cam,
ordinance
and-
and
that
comes
with
requirements
that
a
certain
number
of
videos
per
month
be
reviewed,
so
that
will
take
some
staff
resources.
M
M
It'll
take
less
personnel
because
it
it
that
isn't
a
consequence
of
this
you'll
have
a
lot
more
information
and
it'll
be
better
information.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
cindy
council
members,
any
other
discussion
on
this.
B
L
Thank
you
and
I
think
that
that's
it
for
that
item
so
scrolling
up
these
are
some,
let's
see
maybe
I'll,
come
to
these
at
the
end,
these
are
some
items
that
are
new
sort
of
things
that
were
discovered
in
the
last
little
bit.
So
I'll
go
to
the
next
item
that
was
starred
by
the
council,
which
is
to
increase
compensation
for
employees.
L
Some
council
members
expressed
an
interest
in
increasing
compensation
for
represented.
I
think
at
this
point
we
can
just
talk
about
it
generally
and
then,
as
negotiations
are
still
ongoing.
So
this
is
an
amount
for
each
one
percent
increase.
B
Interrupt
you
real,
quick
council
members.
As
you
know,
we
do
have
a
closed
session
at
4
45
and
then
there
will
be
a
little
bit
more
information
because
of
the
negotiations
and
the
need
for
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
we
can
have
a
closed
session,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
we
are
doing
that
at
4
45.
So
if
there's
questions
on
that
particular
those
particular
like
represented
employees,
that
will
likely
be
answered
at
the
4
45
closed
session
meeting.
B
I
think
that,
maybe
after
also
council
members,
we
have
a
hard
stop
at
five
or
five
fifteen
I'd
like
to
stop
at
five.
If
we
can
so,
we
will
have
another
chance
for
unresolved
issues,
the
more
we
get
through.
I
think
today,
the
better
obviously,
but
that
compensation
one
may
be
something
that
we
come
back
to
at
the
june
8th
meeting
jen
just
so
that
we
have
time
to
get
some
of
those
other
questions
answered
and
everybody's.
On
the
same
page,
great.
L
So
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
an
interest
in
funding
additional
class
c
dollars.
One
item
that,
oh
sorry,
not
classy,
additional
cip
dollars,
I'm
so
confused
jenna.
I
was
like
one
of
the
sources.
One
of
the
sources
is
recapturing
old
class
c
funds
that
were
not
expended.
So
if
you
scroll
up
to
the
very
top
of
the
spreadsheet
you'll,
see
208
thousand
dollars
for
completed
class
c
projects,
we
have
an
exact
amount
on
that
now.
That's
I
think,
slightly
different.
Exactly.
L
L
One
other
thing
that
our
staff
wanted
to
note
is
that
the
council
took
a
struggle
early
on
budget
discussions
to
dedicate,
and
I'm
highlighting
it
here-
1.8
million
that
had
been
sitting
in
the
transportation
holding
account
within
funding
our
future.
The
council
had
taken
a
straw
poll
to
dedicate
that
to
completing
improvements
on
the
600
north
corridor.
L
I
should
note
that
there's
also
funds
posed
in
the
50
million
dollar
proposed
bond
that
the
council
is
going
to
be
discussing
later
this
summer,
but
that
those
dollars
that
are
proposed
in
the
bond
are
not
sufficient
to
complete
the
entire
project,
and
so
this
would
help
get
the
project
a
longer
way
there.
L
We
initially
were
kind
of
separating
the
issues
but
realized
that
those
are
cip
dollars
too,
and
so
you
could
count
those
essentially
towards
your
goal
of
seven
percent
and
so
before.
When
we
had
this,
2.7
million
is
what
you
need
to
add
to
get
cip
to
seven
percent.
If
you
wanted
to
count
that
the
funds
for
the
six
north
corridor,
you
could
add
a
million
dollars
and
get
yourself
to
seven
percent.
L
But
it's
of
course,
totally
up
to
the
council
and
probably
how
much
put
into
cip
depends
on
what
projects
you
want
to
accomplish
at
cip.
And
so
any
of
those
strategies
is
on
the
table
for
the
council
to
consider.
N
So
I'm
interested
in
increasing
the
cip
and
I
am
interested
in
increasing
the
funding
for
the
constituent,
cip
programs.
I
don't
want
us
to
nail
down
the
exact
program
because
that's
what
we
do
in
in
the
august
time
frame,
but
I
am
interested
in
increasing
the
the
money
going
to
there,
but
I
would
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
I'd
like
to
keep
the
1.8
or
the
600
north
corridor
separate
from
the
other
cips.
N
If
that's
doable,
and
I
know
that
would
only
give
us
if
you
just
if
you
separate
that
out,
you
have
like
you
know
almost
a
million
dollars
just
to
go
to
the
constituents.
If
you
want
to
keep
it
with
that,
seven
percent.
L
Yeah
we're
we
were
just
thinking
about
it
from
a
calculation
perspective.
If
you
wanted
to.
If
you
wanted
to
it's,
not
that
those
dollars
that
1.8
million
would
be
competing
with
other
constituent
projects,
it
would
mean
that
instead
of
2.7
million
dollars
going
towards
more
projects,
you
would
have
one
ish
million
going
towards
projects.
So
that's
that's.
Definitely
a
consideration.
F
D
N
L
B
B
That's
what
our
beautiful
staff
that
doesn't
sleep
figures
out,
but
just
rather,
if
yes,
and
if
so,
yes,
how
much
and
jen
and
cindy
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
that
about
kind
of
posing
that
question
yeah.
M
Yeah
exactly-
and
I
think
if,
if
you
don't
mind
the
larger
budget
items
like
like
this
and
even
the
holding
account
that
you
did,
they
may
be
sort
of
starred
in
very
light
ink
so
that
if
because,
as
you
guys,
narrow
down
and
look
for
your
common
ground,
you
may
have
to
tweak
those
larger
budget
items
a
little
bit
in
order
to
get
to
to
the
budget
and
balancing
everything
out.
M
B
B
I
want
to
increase
cip.
I
don't
know
that
I,
based
on
the
mayor's
discussion
and
understanding,
sort
of
the
limited
capacity
potentially
or
or
the
work
that's
on
people's
plates.
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
seven
percent.
B
N
So
my
thought
is
that
you
put
it
at
the
2.7
level
and
then,
when
we
come
to
the
august
time
frame,
because
some
of
these
projects
may
not
need
as
much
engineering
support
and
we
go
hey,
we
have
that
level
here.
We
don't
have
the
staff
to
to
compete
that
level,
we'll
back
it
off
from
that
point,
but
throw
it
out
there
now,
because
I
don't
know
if
it's
two
million
one
million,
you
know
2.7
million
okay
and
I
don't
think
the
engineers
probably
know
that
either
so
so
that
now
and
then
back
off.
K
K
It
would
be
the
same
process
right
to
just
say
because
it
to
me
it's
probably
going
to
be
coming
from
fund
balance
if
it's
capital
improvement
projects.
So
if
we
find
out
that
hey
yeah,
there
is
staff
capacity
to
do
more
than
we
just
increased
it
at
that
time,
so
either
way,
I
guess
so.
I
am
interested
in
doing
as
much
cip
as
we
can
afford
and
as
our
staff
can
manage,
because
I
think
that
we
are,
we
have
a
backlog
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
and,
and
that
will
help
the
community.
N
L
If
you
wanted
to
fund
more
projects,
it
would
likely
be
separated
from
your
cip
discussion
and
that's
just
purely
logistical,
procedural
and
so
to
council.
Member
dugan's
point
it,
even
though
it
is
the
same
process
and
it
is
ultimately
the
same
dollars
from
fund
balance.
You're
right,
especially
this
year,
we're
totally
balancing
budget
on
one
time.
Money
like
that
it
procedurally
is.
It
is
easier
to
have
the
money
there
and
not
spend
it
versus
coming
back
and
asking
for
it,
but
that's
just
that's
totally
up
to
you
guys.
H
B
B
K
Sorry
I
have
a
discussion
item
on
this.
Can
I
do
like?
Yes,
I
want
to
do
this,
but
if
we
have
to
start
balancing
things
like
this
is
a
something
that
I
would
be
okay,
going
to
like
six
minutes.
Oh.
B
E
B
Well
and
it
gives
staff
an
opportunity
to
know
what
in
the
world
we're
all
thinking
instead
of
just
creatively,
reading
our
minds,
which
they
are
very
very
good
at
but
hi
madam
mary,
didn't
see
you
so
because
we
have
the
spreadsheet,
and
I
can't
see
tiles-
and
I
didn't
know
you
earlier
so
welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
It's
good
to
see
you
all
right,
jen.
What's
next.
L
So
the
next
item
that
some
council
members
have
asked
about
is
implementing
the
dispatchers
earlier
in
the
fiscal
year
right
now.
The
proposal
is
to
fund
fund
for
six
months,
the
pilot
program,
and
so,
if
the
council
wanted
to
fund
for
the
full
year
it
would
just
you
would
need
to
add
that
same
amount.
B
O
What
was
the
original
intent
of
this
program?
Was
it
to
be
a
temporary
fix
or
a
more
permanent.
L
32-Hour
work
week
for
dispatchers
in
an
attempt
to
help
with
turnover
and
morale
and
just
the
interest
from
the
council
member
was
that,
because
the
in
the
discussion
of
like
this
new
pilot
program,
it
may
include
dispatch,
and
it
may
include
asking
them
to
do
a
lot
more.
Having
that
capacity
start
earlier
in
the
year
might
be
helpful.
M
B
L
I'm
just
putting
that
in
as
a
placeholder
and
funding
our
future,
but
you
guys
don't
need
to
worry
about
that
we'll
this
will
be
that'll,
be
kind
of
what
cindy
was
mentioning
of
us
figuring
out
where
things
belong.
The
next
items
that
were
starred.
Oh
one
item
that
staff
identified
after
the
last
council
discussion
and
based
on
recent
discussions
at
the
state
level
about
drought
and
banning
fireworks.
L
Although
I
haven't
seen
if
the
governor
has
made
an
official
announcement,
there
is
a
line
item
in
the
public
services
budget
for
fireworks,
and
I
don't
know
if
they
were
planning
on
not
having
fireworks
anyway
because
of
the
drought
conditions.
But
that
was
a
line
item
that
we
identified.
If
the
council
wanted
to
recapture
those
dollars.
L
K
L
And
it's
it's
pretty
small
peanuts
as
it
relates
to
the
budget.
So
we
can.
I
can
we
can
zero
that
out.
N
O
E
B
D
H
Go
through
my
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
yeah
to
support
my
my
fellow
council
members.
I
also
love
the
fireworks.
It's
an
awesome
thing
that
we
used
to
do,
but
we
do
have
the
drought
I
mean
even
the
governors
just
called
for
a
statewide
prayer
for
water.
This
weekend
I
mean
that's
the
severity
of
the
drought
that
we're
having
so
yeah.
I'm
okay
with
you
know
with
taking
this
away
for
this
year.
At
the
very
least
thanks.
L
You
recorder
the
next
two
items
that
were
starred
by
the
council
during
the
initial
discussions.
If
I
wrote
they
know
the
fireworks
no
to
no
recapturing
correct.
Okay,.
C
L
Thank
you
thanks
for
clarifying
that
sorry
about
that.
These
were
starred
because
they're
not
eligible
for
arpa
dollars,
but
some
council
members
expressed
an
interest
in
funding.
It's
one
fte
related
to
first
urban
forest
preservation
and
growth,
and
one
and
one-time
funds
related
to
the
same
thing.
So
those
two
line
items
council
members
requested
more
discussion
on.
D
Chair,
I
think
that
we
already
hired
a.
I
know
it's
we're
moving
south,
but
in
the
urban
forestry
right.
So
it's
forest
preservation
and
growth.
We've
already
done,
I
believe,
a
whole
new
crew
for
urban
forestry
because
we're
so
far
behind-
and
I
just
think
the
budget
right
now.
D
If
we
start
looking
at
it,
we're
gonna
be
super
tight,
so
even
with
that's,
not
art
that
is
not
eligible
for
arpa,
so
I'd
say
we
just
hold
off
on
this
until
we
actually
because
we're
gonna
have
to
pull
stuff
no
matter
what-
and
I
would
rather
see
we
pull
this
one
now
than
later.
E
Just
a
question
does
this:
I
assume
that
this
is
not
needed
to
do
the
thousand
trees
per
year
on
the
west
side
that
that's
we're
already
able
to
do
that
with
the
capacity
that
we
had
last
year.
Is
that
right.
C
Thanks
allison
yeah:
this
is
actually
a
needed
position
for
the
thousand
tree
program.
It's
the
thousand
tree
program
needs
to
have
somebody
available
to
do
the
planning
to
understand
where
those
trees
can
be
planted
within
our
city
and
work
with
the
communities
to
plant
those
trees.
C
We
have
done
it
without
this
position
and
we
will
continue
to
do
it
without
this
position.
It
is
stretching
our
urban
forestry
crews
very
much,
and
we
will
need
this
position,
but
I've
talked
to
tony
about
this,
and
tony
will
make
it
happen,
but
this
is
definitely
a
needed
position.
The
other
role
that
this
position
would
play
is
to
review
construction
documents
and
to
do
site
inspections
for
trees
and
to
bolster
tree
protection
in
the
city.
D
I
appreciate
that
that's
extremely
helpful,
but
it's
still
for
me
imagine
where
tony
would
be
if
we
hadn't
hired
the
other
urban
foresters.
So
I
I
think
we
can
move
forward
this
year
without
it,
with
all
the
all
the
problems
that
we're
having
in
regards
to
police
and
social
workers,
and
just
for
me,
madam
chair,
that's
where
I'm
at
thank.
C
C
Okay
and
if
I
could
just
add
the
added
arborists
that
were
added,
I
believe
it
was
two
years
ago.
B
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
james
there's
other
discussion
by
council
members.
What
I'm
hearing
is
james
having
a
straw
poll
to
pull
this
item
from
the
budget.
These
two
line
items
from
the
budget
and.
B
D
B
L
I'll
just
keep
scrolling
up.
No
council
members
asked
to
start
any
of
those
additional
ftes
in
the
public
lands
department.
So
I
am
scrolling
scrolling
past
that
one,
the
next
fte
that
was
starred
was
a
business
analyst
that
was
a
gray
area
for
potential
funding
through
arpa,
most
likely
ineligible.
L
I
think
council
members
asked
to
star
it,
given
the
workload
that
finance
is
facing.
So
again
I
mean
I
should
clarify
that
for
10
months,
that
might
be
full
year.
B
Sorry
I
have
a
question
on
the
public
services
ftes,
so
those
are
not
currently
in
the
budget.
None
of
those
are
currently
in
the
budget.
L
B
L
L
L
I
I'm
not
planning
on
going
line
by
line,
I'm
planning
on
hitting
each
of
the
highlighted
items
that
the
council
asked
to
highlight.
But
if
there's
anything
that
you
would
like
to
talk
about
that,
we
don't
have
highlighted.
Please
jump
in.
D
M
Yay,
madam
chair,
yes,
one
question
that
we
asked
the
administration
yesterday
and-
and
they
may
have
gotten
back
to
us,
but
I
haven't
seen
it
yet
just
informally,
we
asked
whether
either
of
these
analysts
in
finance
maribeth
said
that
she
might
be
able
to
do
with
one
instead
of
two.
M
But
then
we
realize
that
we're
calling
on
finance
to
do
a
lot
right
now
because
of
the
erp
city-wide
monetary
accounting,
stuff
and
the
police,
zero
base
budget
and
all
of
the
federal
funding
that's
flowing
through
both
their
and
can's
hand
division.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
they
can
just
share
an
answer
with
us.
It
may
it
may
not
be
a
problem,
but
we
just
got
worried
because
what
they're
doing
is
so
central
to
those
projects.
B
Thank
you
cindy
council
members,
any
discussion
on
this
one.
Also,
if,
if
people
want
more
time,
we
can
skip
it,
we
have
another
day
to
talk
about
unresolved
issues,
and
so
we
don't
have
to.
I
appreciate
everybody
wanting
to
get
through
these.
I
really
really
do.
I
think
this
is
productive,
but
if
feel
free
to
say,
hey,
let's
skip
this
one,
and
and
I'm
okay
with
that
or
if
somebody
has
a
straw
poll
or
discussion
either
way.
E
We
were
waiting
to
hear
back
from
mary
beth
correct
and
whether
or
not
we
needed
whether
or
not
she
could
do
with
want
earlier
when
she
said
she'd
do
with
one,
then
maybe
she
can't
what
was
the?
What
was
the
conclusion
of
that
conversation.
E
Okay,
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
skipping
that
and
coming
back.
I
do
want
to
have
a
conversation,
though,
about
about
parks,
and
I
don't
remember
if
jen
said
that
we
were
skipping
public
utilities
or
if
we're
giving
public
services.
L
We
we
skipped
through
public
services
and
public
lands,
because
we
didn't
have
any
council
members
say
they
wanted
to
stop
there,
but
we
can
certainly
go
back
public
utilities.
We
don't
have
listed
on
this
specifically
because
it's
not
general
fund
balancing,
but
if
there's
an
issue
an
unresolved
issue
relating
to
public
utilities
that
you
want
to
discuss,
you
can
do
that
too.
E
Yeah,
I
don't
know
what
I
like.
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
say
flag
the
whole
division
for
parks,
but
I
do
because
I
I
want
to
have.
I
want
to
know
where
people
what
people
think
since
they're
our
last
since
the
presentation
and
since
we've
had
time
to
think
about
it,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
have
that
discussion
today
or
if
we
want
to
have
it
next
time,
give
people
time
to
come
like
and
prepare.
But
I
think
we
need
it
yeah.
D
Chris,
I'm
fine
with
having
that
conversation
today.
I
I
would
I'm
not
looking
at
starting
a
new
department
at
all.
I
just
don't
think
this
year
is
the
way
to
do
it
specifically
when
we're
looking
at
you
know,
fixing
all
departments
that
are
already
in
a
wreck,
so
I'm
afraid
we're
not
going
to
have
the
budget.
It's
going
to
be
a
shortfall,
we're
coming
to
it,
whether
the
arpa
funding
comes
through,
and
we
put
it
in
a
holding
account
and
say
we're
going
to
look
at
it
later.
Let's
not
do
that.
D
D
We
don't
even
have
a
clear
picture
of
what
it's
going
to
look
like
so
plus
we're
already
looking
at
a
new
a
new
trial
coming
up
with
a
program
that
the
arp
is
that
what
work
is
that
what
we're
calling
it
amy
I
keep
on
messing
it
up.
Is
it
arm
or
is
it
art
it's
iron?
D
These
tlas
are
really
messing
me
up.
You
know
so,
and
I
would
actually
suggest
that
unless
there
is
a
council
member
that
is
wanting
to
look
at
these
these
employees,
instead
of
going
it
up
by
line
by
line
that
you
come
back
and
say,
I
want
to
talk
about
this
one,
because
otherwise
I
say
we
scrap
them
all.
O
Is
it
my
turn
all
right,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
fdes
for
public
lands
being
a
founding
member
of
the
parks,
natural
lands,
urban
forest
and
trails
board
some
eight
years
ago,
or
so.
The
our
current
parks
department
deals
with
a
vast
amount
of
open
space
and
green
space
within
our
city,
the
complaints
that
we
have
consistently
regarding
either
low
levels
of
maintenance
or
slow
response
times.
I
know
council
member
rogers
has
mentioned
redwood
meadows
park.
O
Things
like
this
definitely
can't
happen
without
enough
staff
to
do
it
and
parks
has
been
operating
at
a
serious
detriment
in
relation
to
certainly
other
cities.
Our
size
we
operate
currently
at
significantly
less
than
a
comparable
city
like
boise
of
factors
of
10.
It's
insane
the
amount
of
maintenance
that
should
be
placed
should
be
done
in
spaces,
like
the
jordan
river
trail,
to
have
that
beautiful
string
of
pearls
running
through
our
city
that
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
be
proud
of
to
maintain
every
part
to
the
same
status
as
liberty.
O
Parker
would
be
fantastic
with
what
we
are
also
going
to
discuss
regarding
turning
the
glendale
water
park
into
some
sort
of
regional
park.
Possibly
there
are
so
many
new
projects
on
the
board.
If
you
look
at
your
cip
books,
there
are
a
ton
of
parks
projects
in
there,
because
green
space
is
extremely
important
to
all
of
our
constituents.
O
D
D
You,
council,
member
100
percent,
one.
D
B
O
B
Yes,
one
second,
sorry,
council
members,
we
have
a
pretty
hard
stop
at
4
45,
not
pretty
hard.
It
is
a
hard
stop
to
get
into
our
closed
session
at
4
45,
and
what
I'd
ideally
like
to
do.
We
did
a
lot
on
our
unresolved
issues.
B
I
think
that
this
pers
issue
is
a
little
bit
longer
discussion
than
four
minutes
six
minutes,
and
I
would
really
since
we're
on
a
thursday
and
I'd
really
like
to
just
end
after
our
closed
session,
and
I
would
hope
that
you
guys
would
understand
that
and
that
we
maybe
talk
in
small
groups
about
the
parks
and
get
some
ideas
there
and
then
talk
about
it
again
on
tuesday
so
darren.
B
I
know
that
you
wanted
to
say
something,
but
I,
if,
if
that's
okay
with
everyone,
I'd
like
to
just
be
able
to
end
this
meeting
at
the
end
of
our
closed
session,
that
okay,
okay,
so
with
that-
and
I
I
just
have
a
feeling-
this
parks
thing
is
gonna-
be
a
fun
discussion.
So
I
want
to
give
it
ample
beautiful
time
with
that.
I
don't
have
my
agenda
in
front
of
me,
but
I
don't
think
there
is
anything
else
on
it.
Is
there
any
announcements
or
anything
at
this
point
cindy?
B
L
B
N
C
B
And
so
we
will
enter
into
closed
session
in
five
minutes.
Bye.