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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 6/8/2021
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A
A
To
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
online,
and
even
though
we
are
not
in
person,
this
meeting
is
still
considered.
An
open
and
public
meeting
today
is
a
work
session
and
limited
formal
meeting,
which
means
there
is
no
general
public
comment
scheduled
next
Tuesday
June
15th
will
be
the
next
opportunity
for
the
public
to
make
General
comment
during
our
7
PM
formal
meeting.
A
We
have
a
few
changes
to
our
agenda
today
to
ensure
that
we
have
time
for
our
budget
discussions.
We
are
going
to
switch
the
funding,
our
future
briefing,
to
be
a
written
briefing.
If
council
members
have
questions,
staff
will
track
those
and
we
can
identify
a
time
to
follow
up
the
Third
Avenue
rezone
will
be
rescheduled
for
next
week,
June
15th.
We
still
have
that
item
on
the
consent,
lit
consent
agenda
to
set
its
hearing
dates,
so
the
schedule
should
not
is
not
going
to
be
affected.
I
hope
everyone
understands
that.
A
So
we
will
start
out
with
agenda
item
number
one
sorry
I
was
looking
to
see
if
Madame
mayor
was
on,
yet
it
is
updates
from
the
administration
and
I.
Don't
see,
oh
just
in
time
matter,
mayor
and
I
will
thank
you
for
being
here.
As
always,
we
do
appreciate
your
you
listening
in
and
participating
in
our
council
meeting,
so
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
you
great.
B
C
B
There's
no
zip
codes
above
that
191
per
100
000
positivity
rate,
which
is
great
and
last
week,
Salt
Lake
County,
as
you
know,
entered
the
low
transmission
level
according
to
State
guidelines
and
vaccinations
in
the
Central
City
and
West
Side
areas
are
still
increasing
by
two
to
three
percent
per
week
and
they're
still
beside
behind
the
east
side,
which
is
50
to
60
percent,
fully
vaccinated
thanks
Bobby,
we
can
go
to
the
third
slide
yeah.
Thank
you.
B
There's
those
rates
great
to
see
that
they're
pretty
consistently
increasing
still
for
those
three
zip
codes
that
have
been
hardest
hit.
The
next
slide
is
again
the
county-wide
demographic
totals
for
fully
vaccinated
individuals
and
the
next
one
is
about
upcoming
events
that
we're
helping
to
organize
with
Salt
Lake
County
and
we'll
try
to
bring
back
data
from
these
clinics
as
they
happen
and
again,
council
members,
we
are
always
happy
to
work
on
liaisoning
ideas
that
you
may
have,
or
your
communities
may
have
for
other
opportunities
for
vaccination.
B
B
Still
the
vast
majority
of
people
using
much
less
than
half
of
what
they
have
available
to
utilize.
The
next
one
is
for
all
those
employees
who
don't
have
access
to
the
erpl,
and
instead
they
have
the
the
family
first
leave
and
that's
just
increased
by
two
in
the
last
pay
period,
and
then
we
have
our
good
friend
Andrew
Johnston
here,
to
give
you
an
update
on
homelessness
with
the
next
slide.
D
D
A
lot
of
the
beds
that
are
unoccupied
per
night
are
oftentimes
reserved
for
somebody,
who's,
working
or
other
things
during
times,
so
they're,
not
there
at
night
when
the
count
happens.
So
those
beds
are
not
necessarily
just
vacant,
they
may
be
occupied
by
somebody
typically,
but
not
at
that
point
for
the
count
next
slide.
D
This
next
one
is
for
Cottonwood
Park,
which
is
along
Jordan,
River
North
of
North
Temple
on
the
16th,
and
in
addition
to
that,
we
haven't
put
it
here,
but
on
the
12th
there
is
that
vaccination
Fair
down
at
Rio
Grande
by
the
Wigan
Center,
the
heart
team,
does
work
with
Advantage
Services
closely
about
trash
throughout
the
city
and
particularly
around
hot
spots,
with
either
cleaning
and
or
trash
cans.
And
these
are
this
is
a
list
of
places
where
they've
suggested,
having
additional
trash
cans
to
those
that
are
already
there.
D
D
The
folks
are
in
there
now
a
number
of
them
plan
to
come
back
in
the
fall
and
start
doing
short-term
rentals
there
in
the
meantime,
they're
being
offered
placements
in
the
Resource
Centers
themselves.
A
number
of
these
folks
came
from
camping
and
some
of
them
are
going
back
to
Camping
they're
reporting,
so
we're
still
getting
some
estimates
about
numbers
there.
D
The
vulnerable
populations
Hotel
in
Salt
Lake
has
been
operated
through
covid
through
County
money,
and
that
is
closing
the
end
of
June.
The
end
of
the
month.
Combination
of
the
funding
is
running
out
and
the
current
owner
wants
to
bring
it
back
into
Service
as
a
hotel.
There's
a
little
over
100
people
in
there
most
of
those
folks
came
from
Resource
Centers
and
have
underlying
health
conditions
which
made
them
more
vulnerable
to
covid,
symptoms
and
problems.
D
So
most
of
them
we
anticipate
are
going
to
go
back
into
the
Resource
Centers
and
the
operator
right
now.
The
road
home
and
others
are
working
with
them
actively
to
get
into
those
Resource
Centers.
So
it's
not
waiting
till
the
end
of
the
month.
They've
been
doing
this
for
another
a
week
at
least
already
and
they'll
keep
doing
that
through
this
month
and
then
the
winter
overflow
program
for
motels,
which
we
run
most
Winters
for
women,
primarily
at
scattered
motels,
that
has
additional
funding
from
the
state
to
operate
until
October
until
the
next
winter
cycle.
D
B
But
we
still
invite
people
to
help
put
together
kitchen
kits
for
the
new
residents
who
will
be
coming
into
their
permanent
Supportive
Housing
Apartments
at
the
Magnolia
apartments
there
they
can
be
new
or
gently
used
and
there's
a
list
at
the
SLC
core
website
where
you
can
look
at
the
items
on
Amazon.
But
of
course
you
can
get
anything
from
anywhere.
That's
new
or
gently
used
and
put
it
together
to
help
people
out
thanks
for
allowing
us
the
time
to
give
an
update,
Council.
E
E
Having
that
said
how
the
Andrew,
how
does
this
work
like
we?
We
have
this
project
that
will
be
opened
for
as
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
So
do
we
have
a
list
already
of
the
folks
potentially
are
at
the
shelters
right
now
that
are
going
there
and
are
going
to
be
housed
there
and
then
we're
going
to
have
more
space
at
the
shelters
or
who
will
be
occupying
these
apartments.
D
Now
we
do
anticipate
a
number
of
those
folks
are
in
the
shelter.
Some
of
them
may
not
necessarily
be
in
the
shelter
right
now.
They
may
have
been
in
this
before
they're,
not
in
right
now
they
kind
of
come
and
go
in
and
out
so
that
list
does
overlap
with
the
shelter
list,
but
it
may
not
be
exclusively
folks
in
the
shelter.
If
that
makes
sense,
they
could
be
unhoused
on
the
street.
They
might
be
doubling
up
with
somebody
temporarily
and
coming
back
into
the
shelter.
G
I
was
wondering
about
the
list
of
the
places
where
the
trash
cans
are
suggested.
If
I
I
expect
that
some
of
my
constituents
would
be
interested
in
some
locations,
if
they
have
ideas,
how
do
we
get
those
to
you?
Should
we
just
have
them,
send
them
to
me
and
email
them
to
you
or
what's
the
best
way
to
convey
those
suggestions.
D
H
A
H
A
brief
update,
yeah
Madam,
chair
and
Council
I
have
with
me
today
Sergeant
Mason
Gibbons,
who
is
a
heads
up
our
background
unit,
but
I
think
this
kind
of
stems
out
of
last
week's
conversation
about
where
we're
at
with
our
process,
not
so
much
thought
process,
but
where
we're
at
with
the
numbers
and
so
I
do
have
a
slide
deck
and
we
can
get
through
them
fairly,
quick.
So
if
you
could
bring
up
that
first
slide
and
please
counsel
as
we
go.
H
H
All
right,
so,
a
few
months
ago,
director,
Deb
Alexander
myself
talked
about
the
process
and
how
we
had
a
process.
That
was,
we
used
to
open
a
process
and
then
close
it,
and
then
we
would
take
those
applicants,
but
we
moved
to
that
open,
always
going
process,
and
so
this
kind
of
breaks
down
the
demographics
of
what
we've
accomplished
since
January
of
this
month
to
June
3rd.
So
next
slide.
Please.
H
H
Oh
now,
to
break
down
in
state
and
out
of
state
applications,
483
or
78
percent
of
those
applications
we
received
were
from
Utah
residents
and
21.2
or
130
applications
were
received
from
outside
the
outside
of
our
state
and
into
the
provinces
in
Canada
those
that
were
that
had
citizenship.
So
we
had
a
good
response,
but,
as
we've
talked
Council,
remember,
the
one-third
rule
that
we
kind
of
lose
one-third
of
our
applications
as
we
move
through
the
process.
I
Chief,
okay,
so
the
graphic
on
the
side
there
you
can
kind
of
follow
along
it's
represented
in
fractions
or
in
percentages.
Rather,
if
you'd,
like
the
actual
number
I,
can
give
those
as
well
but
of
the
new
hire
category
of
tall
residents
that
accounts
for
468
applicants.
Now
how
did
those
all
land?
That's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
here.
Okay
63
of
that
are
were
the
ones
that
have
withdrawn
for
various
reasons
that
could
be,
they
self
withdrew.
I
H
And
then
Madam
chair,
I
think
the
conversation
was
what
those
disqualifying
events
might
be.
I
mean
just
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
we're
not
talking
about
somebody
who
used
marijuana.
You
know
five
or
six
years
ago
we're
talking
about
individuals
that
have
committed
a
domestic
violence
or
a
violent
crime.
Those
are
the
individuals
that
are
disqualifying
out
that
we
don't
want
them
here
in
within
our
Police
Department.
H
One
of
the
big
things
with
the
domestic
violence
is
sometimes
it's
just
one
incident,
but
there's
a
pattern
of
violence
that
precludes
that,
and
so
we
don't.
We
don't
want
that
individual
and
by
law
once
convicted
of
a
domestic
violence
they
can.
They
cannot
carry
a
firearm
which
absolutely
disqualifies
them
from
being
a
police
officer.
So
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
we're
not
looking
for
those
very
minor
things.
H
I
So,
with
the
lateral
hires,
it's
a
smaller
pool,
you
also
have
to
consider
this
job
was
posted
only
what
a
month
ago.
So
that's
why
the
numbers
are
are
much
lower
than
the
continual
higher
new
higher
process,
but
of
that
there
are
15
applicants
who
are
Utah
residents
of
that
and
you
could
do
quick
math.
Just
by
looking
at
the
ratio.
Five
were
disqualified
and
10
were
withdrawn
for
various
reasons.
Again,
mostly
be
self
withdrew,
or
they
just
stop
communicating.
After
applying.
I
H
So
four
of
them
they
withdrew
to
stay
with
their
current
agency,
so
they
put
their
name
in
the
Hat.
We
went
through
some
of
the
process
communicated
with
them.
They
decided
to
stay
with
their
current
agency.
More
applicants,
stop
communicating
for
whatever
reason
we
don't
know
they.
Just
they
didn't
want
to
be
part
of
the
process
and
we
couldn't
couldn't
contact
them
to
further
the
process
along
two
applicants
accepted
jobs
at
different
agencies
and
then
five
were
dq'd
and
and
without
being
real
specific.
H
H
He
said
when
we
talked
about
hiring,
he
said
Chief,
we
don't
want
just
officers,
we
want
the
right
officers,
and
so
Council
I
want
you
to
know
we're
keeping
our
standards
as
high
as
high
as
we
ever
have,
and
and
it's
imperative
that
we
get
the
right
officers
to
serve
here
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
Now.
Some
of
the
things
we
have
heard
is
that
they
can't
sell
their
house
quick
enough
or
the
housing
market
here
in
Salt
Lake
and
the
joining
counties
is
very
high.
I
With
this,
the
graph
shows
five
total
candidates
and
and
I
do
that,
because
there
was
one
that
contacted
the
background
unit
exclusively
and
we
were
working
and
trying
to
get
to
apply
and
because
we
were
working
on
them.
We
counted
as
a
statistic,
but
there
are
actually
only
four
lateral
applicants,
who've
applied
and
all
four
have
withdrawn
and
again
the
echo
what
the
chief
said
is:
moving
costs,
it's
housing,
it's
the
pay.
If
we
can
send
them
a
pay
scale
of
what
they'll
make
and
they
stop
talking
or
they
withdraw.
H
But
on
a
good
note
on
it
to
end
on
a
good
note,
we
have
offered
10
conditional
offers
to
to
our
new
hire
class,
and
then
we
have
another
24
that
we're
going
to
be
moving
into
the
backgrounds
and
Sergeant
Gibbons
continues
with
his
team.
Looking
at
those
new
applicants,
we
anticipate
having
and
we
want
to
have
a
class
of
30
to
hire
at
the
end
of
Jan
end
of
July.
So
with
that,
we
appreciate
your
support
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
glad
to
answer
them.
H
K
K
The
full
commission
recently
approved
recommendations
drafted
by
the
policies
and
practices
subcommittee
and
an
additional
round
of
recommendations
from
the
school
safety
subcommittee.
Staff
is
working
to
coordinate
a
date
that
those
can
be
presented
to
the
council.
We're
approaching
the
end
of
the
first
phase
of
the
rep
commission's
meetings.
One
more
full
commission
meeting
will
be
held
either
next
Wednesday
June
15th
or
the
following.
June
23rd
staff
will
confirm
the
date
in
the
next
council
meeting
update
and
the
public
can
follow
the
rep
Commission
on
Facebook
or
visit
their
website
at
slcrepcommission.com.
K
The
commission
is
also
always
accepting
stories,
concerns
or
perspectives
from
the
public,
but
particularly
right
now
the
Consultants
who've
been
working
with
the
commission
since
last
fall
are
compiling
their
report
on
phase
one
of
the
commission's
work
and
they've
asked
the
public
to
share
any
feedback
that
they
want
included
in
that
report
by
Friday
June
11th.
This
would
be
in
addition
to
all
the
feedback
that's
been
received
so
far
through
email,
listening
sessions,
comment
at
commission
meetings,
so
I
just
want
to
do
a
quick
pitch
for
ways
to
share
feedback
with
the
commission.
A
Okay,
as
I
mentioned
before
item
number
three,
the
rezone
at
approximately
860
and
868
East
Third
Avenue,
will
be
rescheduled
to
next
week
and
item
number
four
funding.
Our
future
recap
will
be
a
written
briefing
that
you
should
have,
and
so,
if
you
have
questions
please
let
Kira
know
so
that
brings
us
to
item
number
five,
which
is
our
unresolved
issues
with
the
budget,
and
we
are.
A
C
The
mayor
presented
the
budget,
the
first
Tuesday
in
May.
The
council
has
been
collecting
information
from
departments
since
then
receiving
information
to
questions.
Things
like
that
and
staff
has
been
tracking
all
the
interests,
all
the
items
of
interest
that
council
members
raised
and
collected
them
and
compiled
them
onto
a
list
that
we
call
the
tracking
list,
and
essentially
it's
just
a
way
to
make
sure
we
keep
the
budget
balanced
as
people
talk
about
new
ideas
they
have
to
fund
or
as
we
get
new
information
about
revenues.
C
C
So
let
me
know
if
you
can
see
that
and
I
will
start
to
walk
through,
maybe
I'll
do
a
quick
recap
of
what
the
council
has
already
straw
hold.
So
like
I
said
this
is
a
compilation
and
it's
tracked
by
department,
but
we
can
scroll.
You
know
anywhere.
You
want
of
all
the
different
items
that
the
council
has
expressed
an
interest
in
or
expressed
an
idea
of.
C
Those
are
the
items
that
we
haven't
gotten
to
yet
and
so
I
will
just
scroll
up
and
then
items
that
are
highlighted
in
yellow
are
just
little
things
that
staff
needs
to
confirm
with
the
council
before
we
officially
do
the
budget
and
I
I
forgot
to
mention
where
we
need
to
go
where
we
need
to
get
to.
After
today's
conversation
or
worst
case
scenario,
Thursday's
conversation
is
a
balanced
budget,
where
the
council
feels
good
about
everything
that
was
either
added
or
removed
from
the
mayor's
proposal.
C
C
It's
a
very,
very
large
bucket
of
things,
I
think
that
falls
into
that
category.
Right
now,
and
hopefully,
with
further
discussion
with
the
administration,
an
rep
commission
will
get
some
more
definition
on
that
as
we
go
forward
and
in
the
meantime,
the
council
did
fund
a
few
other
things
on
that
are
kind
of
a
related
topic.
So
the
council
straw
polled
to
fund
additional
axon
body
camera
services
to
increase
transparency
and
ease
of
of
analyzing
those
videos.
C
The
council
also
funded
additional
six
additional
social
workers
beyond
the
six
recommended
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
That
funding
is
10
months
so
that
the
social
worker
program
can
start
ramping
up
more
quickly.
The
the
council
also
recognized
that
the
public
safety
building
doesn't
have
enough
space
for
all
those
social
workers
and
so
put
in
a
placeholder
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
lease
space,
with
the
understanding
that
the
administration
will
have
to
come
back
and
let
us
know
if
that's
sufficient
or
if
other
resources
are
needed.
C
The
next
item
that
the
council
has
dropped
hold.
Actually
this
was
one
of
the
first
items
that
the
council
stronghold
was
recapturing
1.8
million
that
had
been
set
aside
from
funding
our
future
Transportation
dollars
and
directing
that
towards
additional
funding
for
the
600
North
Corridor
transformation
project.
The
bulk
of
that
funding
is
coming
later
in
the
summer
when
you
guys
talk
about
a
potential
sales
tax
Bond,
but
this
would
enable
that
project
to
go
further
east.
C
C
C
The
council
also
straw
pulled
to
to
fund
the
dispatcher
32-hour
workweek
pilot
program,
starting
in
September,
rather
than
in
January,
which
was
proposed
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
so
that
required
some
additional
dollars
there
and
then,
let's
see
oh
and
then
the
council
straw
pulled
recapturing
funding
relating
to
fireworks
because
of
the
drought
condition
in
the
valley.
Currently,
the
council
also
strap
hold,
whether
or
not
to
add
these
forced
preservation
and
growth,
FTE
and
one-time
money.
C
Those
have
been
proposed
to
be
funded
through
the
arpa
dollars
and
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
and
then
we
received
information
that
they
were
not
eligible,
so
the
council
would
have
had
to
add
them
to
the
budget
if
you
wanted
them
to
be
part
of
the
city
for
the
coming
fiscal
year
and
the
council
stop
hold
no,
and
that
takes
us
to
where
we
ended
so
I
don't
know.
Madam.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
Jen
thanks
for
that
recap,
I
think
that
is
incredibly
helpful
and
I
believe
where
we
ended
was
a
discussion
about
the
restructuring
of
of
the
Public
Services
department
and
creating
a
new
public
lands
department
and
the
fde
is
there
and
so
maybe
Jen.
Can
you
just
give
us
an
update
of
what
what
public
services
is?
Looking
for
like
what
the
proposals
are
for
that
new
department
and
then
council
members,
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
that.
C
C
Is
the
Public
Services
Department
there
are
engineering
is
being
transferred
or
supposed
to
be
transferred
from
can
to
public
services,
and
so
some
of
those
ftes
are
related
to
that
transfer
in
this
section.
But
I
think
that
the
conversation
last
time
was
focused
more
on
the
public
lands
department.
And
so,
if
we
wanted
to
start
there,
I
think
that
would.
L
I
hear
people
saying
that
they
their
expectation
about
the
level
of
service
that
that
they
want
to
see
that
they're
willing
they
would
be
willing
to
pay
more
to
to
meet
that
level
of
expectation.
So
so
there's
that
then
I
look
at
the
fact
that
it
seems
like
there's
some
unprecedented
growth.
I
I
know
that
there's
some
unprecedented
growth
in
Salt
Lake
City
and
in
Salt
Lake
Valley
and
as
we
run
out
of
space.
L
L
For
me,
it
makes
sense
to
have
parks
and
public
lands
be
a
separate
Department,
just
because
I
think
that
the
vision
of
the
city
going
forward
is
is
going
to
include
more
and
more
an
emphasis
on
our
parks
and
the
the
level
of
service
that
we
dedicate
to
our
parks
and
I
think
one
way
that
we
communicate
that
vision
is
and
ensure
that
vision
from
one
Administration
to
the
next
is
to
to
create
a
parks.
Department.
I
also
feel
like
we're
doing
the
work
right
now.
L
A
G
Yeah
I'll
just
sort
of
also
share
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
residents,
which
is
majority,
are
also
saying
that
Parks
is
a
priority
for
them,
even
if
it
were
to
result
in
a
tax
increase.
They
think
we're
not
doing
a
good
enough
job
of
maintaining
our
Parks
now
and
as
we
bring
new
parks
online
like
I,
would
I
just
went
to
Allen
Park
recently
for
the
first
time
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
there
in
the
new
Glendale
water
park.
G
M
N
I
appreciate
councilmember,
Wharton
and
mono
their
opinion,
but
let's
face
it.
Councilmember
Wharton
we're
talking
East
Side,
West
Side
here
you've
got
a
lot
of
people
with
disposable
income
on
the
east
side,
whereas
westsiders
are
typically
those
that
have
the
disposable
income
and
when
you
create
a
new
Department,
that's
exactly
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
a
tax
increase,
so
the
people,
what
I'm
hearing
from
in
my
neighborhood
is
hey.
Let's
stop
this.
This
top
heavy
growth.
Let's
go,
let's
grow
the
base
and
I'm
more
than
willing
to
look
at
those
employees.
N
If
that's
what
it
takes
to
hire
so
that
they
feel
comfortable
having
the
staff
that
they
need
to
do
it,
because,
let's,
let's
face
it,
you
go
on
the
Jordan
River
Trail,
it's
an
encampment
City
like
I,
don't
think
you
can
even
use
the
park
right
now,
the
Jordan
River
Trail,
because
it's
so
full
of
camps.
So
when
I
hear
and
receive
an
email
talking
about
needing
a
spot
at
the
table,
you
know
what
the
mayor
can
invite
Kristen
to
the
table
without
making
it
a
department
it
can
be.
N
What's
currently
done,
I
I
Just
Disagree,
not
only
that
we
had
covet
we're
in
covet
for
the
past
18
months
or
so,
and
where
our
Parks
were
closed.
So,
let's
get
out
of
this
covet
pandemic.
Let's
actually
do
a
real
analysis
with
people
using
the
park,
seeing
how
much
weight
and
and
use
is
being
used
on
it
before
we're
going
to
go
and
discuss
a
brand
new
Department.
N
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
us
to
be
doing
that
until
we
hire
new
employees,
make
sure
that
the
grounds
are
being
kept,
that
the
issues
that
are
already
there
making
sure
that
their
staff
fully
staffed
and
making
sure
that
that
our
team
staff
has
everything
that
they
need,
because
we
know
everywhere
across
the
city.
Jobs
are
available,
but
they're
not
being
filled
so
to
say
that
these
jobs
are
automatically
going
to
be
filled.
It's
not
not
being
forthright!
O
O
That's
going
to
take
some
staff
to
manage
if
the
whatever
we're
going
to
do
with
the
Glendale
water
park
is
definitely
going
to
take
some
significant
staff
possibilities
of
Fleet
block.
There
are
a
number
of
options
that
and
councilmember
Rogers
also
referred
to
this-
that
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
Maintenance
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
happen,
and
this
is
the
staff
that
is
being
requested
so
that
those
things
can
happen.
A
L
Just
I
think
I
mean
James
might
be
right,
and
maybe
maybe
this
isn't
the
year.
Maybe
this
is
something
we
look
out
for
future
years.
I'm
just
saying
that
mine's
more
about
saying
the
vision
of
the
city
long
term
and
how
important
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
it
I
mean.
Is
that
the
vision
of
the
city
long
term
is
that
this
is
I,
think
something
that's
going
to
be
more
and
that's
going
to
grow
and
become
more
and
more
important
and
more
and
more
vital
to
our
residents.
L
And
so,
if
this
isn't
the
right
year,
then
I'm
I
totally
understand
sensitive
to
that.
But
if
we're
going
to
fund
the
employees,
if
we're
going
to
to
make
the
investment-
and
we
agree
that
that's
needed,
then
I
think
that
you
know
talking
about
elevating
this
to
the
department
level
at
some
point
is-
is
an
important
part
of
that
discussion,
but
yeah
it.
L
What
I
also
hear
and
what
I
see
is
that
we're
you
know
we're
making
they're
we're
making
mistakes
but
not
intentionally
everybody's
working
hard,
but
I've
seen
mistakes
happen
in
the
parks
in
my
district
I
think
we
we
all
have
had
experiences
like
that
in
our
own
districts
and
I.
Think
it's
because
we
we're
asking
them
every
year
to
do
too
much
with
too
little
and
I.
L
But
my
concern
is
that
you
know
I
can
list
a
number
of
examples
where
I
wish
that
our
Park
staff
maybe
did
have
more
hands
helping
and
they
could
be
more
proactive
and
more
Visionary
with
how
we're
going
to
roll
things
out
in
the
future,
as
opposed
to
just
reacting
to
things
as
they
come
up.
And
that's
so
that's
more
my
point
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
council
members
to
think
about.
N
And
council
member
Wharton,
if
you
don't
mind,
Madam,
chair
I,
just
want
to
correct
what
I
said
I
meant
by
when
the
parks
were
closed,
that
the
equipment
was
closed,
that
the
kids
couldn't
go
and
play
on
it.
I
want
to
make
that
perfectly
clear
and
council
member
Wharton
I
agree
with
you.
100
Let's
do
an
analysis.
Let's
look
at
that,
but
let's
take
it
to
the
voters:
let's
just
not
make
it
preemptive
for
seven
individuals
to
do
it.
Let's
go
to
a
Geo
Bond.
L
L
There
are
two
things
that
really
stuck
out
to
me:
one
that
like
crumbling
infrastructure,
where
we
literally
had
pieces
of
things
falling
on
people
and
then
having
this
lots
of
land
that
that
was
in
the
parks
department.
That
went
had
basically
gone
fallow,
that
we
weren't
able
to
care
for-
and
you
know
when
I
see
that
those
things
are
happening
Plus.
On
top
of
that,
how
much
people
did
rely
on
the
outdoors
during
covet
and
how
much
the
people
that
are
struggling
in
our
city
are
making
lower
income?
L
How
much
they
rely
on
Parks
as
a
as
a
free
service
that
they,
where
they
can
go
and
take
their
families
and
recreate
I?
Think
that
if
we
can
free
up
some
time
too,
so
that
the
leadership
of
parks
can,
you
know,
apply
for
Grants
or
find
other
ways
to
bring
in
money
to
mitigate
that
offset
I
think
that
we
have
to
give
them
the
the
space
and
the
resources
to
do
that.
A
A
That
I
think
that
this
is
a
way
to
show
where,
where
our
priorities
lie,
I
just
I'm
not
sure
that
this
is
the
right
year.
For
me,
it
doesn't
feel
like
the
right
ear
to
do
that
and
when
I
in
one
week,
when
I
have
two
constituents,
email
me
about
one
Parks
person
told
one
of
my
constituents
that
they
couldn't
fix
the
faucet
that
was
leaking
in
in
the
park
and
she
was
very
upset
about
that
because
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
drought
and
now
there's
water
running
and
then
another.
A
That
said,
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
get
rid
of
the
Weeds
on
land
that
we
own
because
and
we
are
in
the
middle
of
a
drought
which
is
a
fire
hazard
next
to
people's
houses.
So
those
that
those
things
are
what
concerned
me
of
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
supporting
Parks.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
if
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
have
people
do
the
work,
then
that's
a
discussion
that
we
need
to
be
having.
And
if
it's
a
recruitment
thing.
A
If
it's
do,
we
need
to
look
at
how
much
we're
paying
people
and
have
that
discussion
so
that
we
can
actually
recruit
people
to
come
and
work
with
us.
I
mean.
Maybe
that
is
where
this
discussion
needs
to
go,
and
it
seems
for
me,
like
I,
that
that
is
more
concerning
to
me
than
creating
a
new
Department
right
now
and
it
kind
of
sounds
in
all
honesty.
What
most
of
you
have
said
is
like
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
right
is
that
you
have
constituents
calling
and
saying.
Why
isn't
my
part
being
maintained?
A
A
J
C
F
F
F
C
A
F
F
That's
my
one
question
I
have
is
because
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
from
councilman,
Rogers
and
Morton
is
that
they
agreed
to
in
in
theory,
big
theory
for
these
ft's,
but
not
the
high-end,
the
the
management
side
of
it.
So,
whether
that's
the
deputy
director
position
only
or
whether
it's
a
couple
other
high-end
positions,
right
I,
think
you
both
agree
that
we
want
to
have
you
know
groundskeepers
and
Trail
managers
and
that
that
side
of
the
house.
H
J
P
Yeah.
Thank
you.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
wanted
to
address
councilmember
Dugan's
question.
We
did
the
analysis,
it's
about
it's
less
than
50
000.
So
it's
between
45
and
50
000
difference.
If
these
same
employees
are
hired
but
stay
within
the
Public
Services
Department.
So
that
is
your
net
benefit
for
the
Department
versus.
C
C
C
That
means
it
recognizes
that
it,
it
is
next
to
impossible
to
hire
an
employee,
that's
funded
in
June
as
of
July
1.,
and
so
this
is
just
recognizing
that
it
takes
about
two
months
to
hire
an
employee.
Even
if
you
start
advertising
so
rather
than
allocate
the
budget
for
the
whole
year
and
not
use
it,
it's
just
10
months
of
funding
and
that's
the
strategy
by
the
way
for
every
single
FTE
in
the
proposed
budget.
L
J
A
N
A
C
P
Well,
if
Kristen's
on
I'll,
let
her
speak
to
these,
but
just
real
quickly.
Only
four
of
these
positions
are
related
to
what
we
would
consider
the
formation
of
the
department,
so
there's
separate
initiatives
that
we
put
forward.
So
the
trails
and
natural
lands
technician
is
to
take
care
of
our
expanding
growth
on
our
Trails.
We
specifically
working
to
make
sure
there
are
natural
lands
are
well
managed,
as
you
know,
that's
something
that
has
to
happen
just
like.
N
P
N
N
Don't
know
if
that's
really
I
mean
help
me
understand
I'm,
just
trying
to
look
at
how
we
can
save
money
and
not
you
know,
look
at
a
tax
increase,
but
that
seems
like
something
we
could
send
out
to
a
consultant,
or
you
know
somebody
at
the
U
of
U
who
is
trying
to
go
into
Parks
and
Rec,
or
something
like
that.
For
you
know,
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
trying
to
be
creative.
Instead
of
burning
us
with
more
employees
that
you
know
we
have
to
pay
retirement
and
benefits
and
health
care,
and
all
of
that.
P
Sure
I
I
know
I,
understand
that
and
Kristen
and
I
have
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit.
If
any
of
these
positions
could
be,
you
know
released
without
as
much
impact,
and
that
would
be
the
one
and
I'd
like
to
ask
Kristen
to
jump
in
to
see
if
she
has
any
different
kick
on
that.
But
that's
my
last
collection
of
our
conversation,
but
that
is
the
one
that
we
still
do
believe.
We
need
good
signage
and
we
need
multi-linear
signage
throughout
our
system
and
it
will
take
quite
a
while
to
do
that.
P
To
prepare
the
signage
and
to
put
it
up
everywhere.
But
Kristen
are
you
on
yeah
I'm
here
hi,
everyone
yeah,
the
the
the
signage
coordinator
position
is
not
just
for
the
Foothills,
but
the
Jordan
River
Trail
as
well-
and
you
know
signage-
is
an
ongoing
thing
in
our
city
that
we
we
have
to
replace
and
and
update
I
try
not
to
have
too
much
sun
pollution.
P
N
But
it's
not
a
person,
that's
going
to
actually
make
the
signs.
It's
somebody
that
sends
out
graphic
art
to
a
sign
company
and
says
I
need
30
of
these
to
say
bilingual
in
Spanish
and
English,
and
then
do
they
actually
go
and
Improvement
and
install
them
or
were
they
sending
out
to
one
of
the
parks
persons
to
go
and
do
it.
P
So
they
don't
make
the
signs
they
we
hire
somebody
to
actually
make.
We
don't
have
that
system
within
parks,
and
so
they
design
it.
They
determine
what's
necessary
what
it
should
say,
make
sure
we're,
following
ordinance,
make
sure
that
the
rules
are
all
accurate.
Make
sure
that
the
language
is
clear.
P
Yeah
we
have
a
sign
shop,
that's
set
up
for
street
signs
for
regulatory
signs,
they
don't
have
the
equipment
or
they
have
to
buy
the
blanks.
Basically,
they
don't
have
anything
other
than
that
and
they're
pretty
tapped
out
right
now,
we've
been
working
with
PD,
for
example,
to
install
no
trespassing
and
no
camping
signs,
and
that
takes
quite
a
bit
of
time
because
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
Science
in
the
city
and
we
have
to
meet
requirements
to
make
sure
they're
reflected
for
there's
constant
sign
replacement
and
so
even
with
PD.
P
N
Some
3M
product,
yeah
I'm,
very
familiar
with
with
signs
that's
part
of
what
my
family
does
is
science.
So
to
me,
council
members,
I'm
I,
don't
want
to
nitpick
and
dive
into
this,
but
this
is
something
that
I
think
that
we
absolutely
could
look
to
public
services
and
doing
and-
and
you
know,
look
their
interns
and
there's
so
many
bilingual
people
and
figuring
out.
You
know
a
template
that
we
can
use
like
the
Jordan
River
Parkway
I've
heard
Kristen
talk
about
that.
That's
something
we
should.
N
A
Q
A
A
C
A
P
P
So
basically,
this
is
a
full-time
position
to
manage
the
the
seasonals
that
are
going
to
be
out
in
the
field
and
working
in
those
new
properties.
So
some
of
those
include
parley's
Point,
Three,
Creeks,
Confluence,
Park,
Allen
Park,
and
then
we
have
a
smattering
of
other
small
facilities,
but
I
mean
parley's.
Point
is
300
acres
and,
and
it's
mostly
natural
Lounge.
That's
why
this
is
in
the
natural
lands
area,
but
there's
trails
that
we'll
be
going
through
there.
N
So
Kristen
and
sorry,
madam
chair,
my
question,
for
you
is,
what's
the
difference
between
that
and
then
the
recreational
trail
manager
I
mean
to
me
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
instead
of
hiring
two
employees.
Now,
let's,
let's
hire
one
and
see
you
know
divide
the
time
between
them
says
one
is
a
trail
manager
and
the
other
one
is
the
trails
and
natural
lands
technician.
P
So
the
trails
in
natural
lands
technician
is
overseeing
seasonal
staff
that
are
working
in
the
field
in
our
parks
and
on
all
these
new
amenities.
The
trails
manager
is
a
different
position
and
basically
they
will
always
see
Trail
construction
that
happens
not
only
in
the
Foothills
but
but
throughout
the
city,
from
the
public
land
side,
because
anytime
there's
an
urban
trail,
there's
always
Green
Space.
P
Next
to
it
they'll
oversee
the
maintenance
of
Trail
projects
manage
Partnerships
and
environmental
requirements
that
happen
on
Trails,
manage
improvements
in
the
trail,
accessibility
and
and
make
sure
that
the
trails
that
we're
building
are
are
well
maintained
and
a
good
recreational
experience
for
the
public.
This
person
also
will
help
with
leveraging
external
funds
for
the
trail
system,
working
with
Partners,
to
help
develop
funding
strategies
for
long-term
maintenance,
so
that
we're
it's
not
as
much
of
a
burden
on
the
city
to
manage
these
Trails.
There's.
P
N
N
You
know
what
we
hear
is
that
we're
not
having
our
Parks
aren't
being
maintained
and
I
I
understand
that
we're
into
the
trails
and
there
most
of
them
are
on
the
east
side
and-
and
you
know,
Allen
Park
is
on
the
east
side
and
I
know
that
we're
coming
to
the
Glendale
park,
but
that's
still,
you
know
at
least
a
year
out
before
anything
like
that
comes
to
fruition.
So
I
don't
know.
P
Can
I
also
just
share
that
we
don't
call
them
groundskeepers
anymore,
because
we're
having
such
a
hard
time
finding
groundskeepers
I
know
that
they
put
North
Temple
groundskeeper,
but
so
Trails
of
natural
lands
has
changed
their
groundskeeper
name
to
senior
natural
resources
technician
and
the
parks
is
landscape,
Parks
technician.
So
just
so
you're
aware
those
are
our
former
groundskeepers.
J
L
I
would
just
say
that
that
there
have
been
so
many
issues
just
with
the
addition
and
you've
the
council
I
think
as
a
whole,
we've
heard
a
small
sliver
of
those
in
our
recent
formal
meetings
with
some
of
the
people
who've
called
in,
but
there
have
been
a
lot
of
issues
with
opening
phase,
one
of
the
trails
project
and
but
I
also
I
mean
we
have
in
the
works.
The
Folsom
Trail
I
think
we
need
to
make
improvements.
Vast
improvements
on
the
Jordan
River
Trail,
like
to
me.
L
It's
not
because
Kristen
and
her
team
are
working
hard
enough.
I
I
think
it's
actually
because
they're
working
too
hard
that
there
are
things
that
are
falling
through
the
cracks
and
I
think
we
can
save
ourselves
and
save
residents
a
lot
of
headache
by
being
more
strategic
and
and
having
better
planning
and
better
out
of
things
like
this.
So
I'm
inclined
to
support
these
two
transpositions.
O
So
I
I
would
like
to
Echo
Chris's
statements.
Certainly
if
this
is
an
East
versus
West
issue,
the
Foothills
Trails.
Definitely
it
benefits
everyone
in
the
city,
but
we
also
have
the
Folsom
Trail
that
just
started
building
last
week,
the
continuation
of
the
nine
Line
Trail,
which
will
finally
connect
the
East
to
the
West
sides
and
the
improvements
that
need
to
be
made
along
the
Jordan
River
Trail.
So
there's,
certainly
a
a
large
amount
of
Trail
benefit
to
be
had
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake
City.
L
F
L
A
C
The
next
item
is
converting
to
seasonal
funding
to
all
FTE,
groundskeeper
and
Christian.
Let
us
know
if
we
need
to
change
the
title
of
that
for
the
staffing
document.
We
always
do
that,
and
so
this
would
be
a
straw,
but
it
wouldn't
result
in
any
budget,
but
just
add
that
FTE
to
the
Staffing
Company.
G
J
A
Would
agree
with
you
and
I
think
what
we
can
do
and
what
I
was
thinking
is.
We
can
have
a
legislative
intent
that
Parks
comes
back
to
us
with
some
of
the
if
we're
saving
51
000
right
here,
for
example,
which
isn't
a
ton
but
because
we
just
we're
taking
that
out.
If
there's
other
positions
that
we
decide
not
to
fund
that
we
do
a
legislative
intent
asking
hurts
in
in
public
services
to
come
back
and
say
what
do
you
need
to
recruit
and
to
retain
or
to
get
people
to
be
doing
the
work?
A
E
The
signage
coordinator,
I,
would
like
that
too.
James
had
a
good
point.
This
could
be
be
resourced
out,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
does
happen.
So
I
would
like
to
the
staff
to
come
back
as
well
and
say
this
is
how
much
you
would
need
to
pay,
because
something
to
take
care
of
this,
because
we
do
need
we
need.
We
do
need
the
signage,
updated
for
sure.
P
Madam
chair
may
I
weigh
in
this
is
Lorna.
Yes,
please
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
support
for
the
seasonal
staff.
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
update
of
public
lands
festival
for
other
divisions.
We
tell
the
hiring
of
the
fair
trying
to
recruit
seasonals,
because
we
have
such
a
difficult
time.
They
have
raised
the
wages
significantly.
It's
bumping
up
against
our
full-time
people
now,
plus
giveaways,
plus
referral,
Recruitment
and
Retention
bonuses
are
being
offered
right
now
and
out
of
the
hiring
Fair.
They
have.
P
Five
people
apply
for
their
positions
and
we
will
continue
that
kind
of
effort
with
HR.
But
you
are
right.
This
has
been
a
growing
problem
for
all
of
our
divisions,
hiring
seasonal
employees,
and
we
are
constantly
increasing
that
wage.
The
the
Landscaping
position
that
we're
converting
from
seasonal
institutions
of
the
increased
demands
to
improve
the
North
Temple
Trax
line
Landscaping
along
that
area,
and
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
a
full-time
person
rather
than
trying
to
do
with
seasonals
who
come
and
go.
P
Public
lands
for
the
last
several
years
has
split
a
financial
analyst
with
golf,
and
this
position
is
this:
person
does
a
really
great
job,
but
but
they're
stretched
pretty
pretty
tight
with
the
duties
that
they
have
so
golf
being.
An
Enterprise
fund
has
a
very
complex
budget,
there's
a
lot
of
very
tight
Revenue
monitoring
expenditure
balancing
throughout
the
year
and
then
public
lands
has
three
three
large
divisions.
It's
also
split
with
this
position.
J
G
Given
that
an
app
description
from
Kristen
I'm
inclined
to
support
this,
but
would
there
be
a
cheaper
option
of
keeping
Golf
and
public
lands
with
the
same
finance
manager
and
adding
a
junior
person
to
them
or
a
part-time
person
to
help
that
so
instead
of
two
people,
it
goes
to
one
and
a
half
or
something
like
that.
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
work
or
not,
but
just
trying
to
think
outside
the
box.
N
G
J
G
P
F
And
manager
I
think
this
position.
The
intent
would
be
also
to
save
us
money
not
to
toss
this
money.
So
that's,
and
especially
when
you,
when
you
have
so
many
things
going
on
right
now,
we
could
actually
be
stepping
over
dollars
to
save
dimes
here
on
something
left
in
this
position,
especially
if
you've
got
a
lot
of
assets
coming
on
new
amenities
and
everything
else
and
contracts
and
grants,
we
could
actually
be
spending
more
money
if
we
don't
have
someone
overseeing
it.
L
N
Department,
though,
council
member
mono
has
its
own
Finance
person,
I
I'm,
fine,
with
that
this
isn't
a
department,
so
I
would
much
rather
see
somebody
from
Finance
in
there
not
a
not
a
finance
manager,
but
an
accountant
who
can
oversee
that
to
me
where
this
was
recommended
as
a
department
and
that's
why
the
manager
was
recommended.
So
we
can
go
to
something:
that's
a
little
bit
lower
level
staff
that
has
not
affected
our
budget
as
much
I
I'm.
Just
saying.
A
Okay,
council
members
other
thoughts
I'm
with
James
I'm,
not
saying
that
they
don't
need
help
in
this
area.
I
just
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
at
the
level
that
they're
suggesting
I
think
we
could
go.
We
could
go
down
a
little
bit
and
still
have
the
support
there,
because
they
would
still
have
the
financial
team
from
public
services
if
we
choose
not
to
make
this
a
department
this
year,
and
so
that
those
are
my
thoughts
I'm
with
James
on
this
one
but
I'm.
Looking
for
a
travel.
A
J
L
A
About
certainly
say
what
talk
to
finance
and
ask
Finance
what
another,
what
an
accountant
would
be
or
what
a
position
that's
lower
than
a
manager
right,
and
so
maybe
maybe
we
can
skip
this
one
for
right
now.
I
would
like
to
see
that
number
I
would
like
to
look
at
what
a
lower
position
would
look
like.
L
F
F
O
A
R
Yeah
I
would
just
say
this
sounds
impolite,
but
we're
not
ever
going
to
get
through
the
budget
and
if
we
are
engaged
at
this
level
with
every
department
and
I
know,
there's
reason
to
engage
with
this
department
at
this
level,
but
but
you
probably
have
reason
to
engage
with
several
others
at
this
level
and
they
aren't
going
to
have
that
benefit
so
I.
If
you
could
just
let
us
work
with
Finance
to
make
our
best
estimate,
then
we
can.
R
We
can
have
a
number
for
you
and
it'll
probably
be
you
know
at
least
twenty
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
number
they
have
there.
The
other
thing
is
I
would
not
necessarily
use
this.
The
fifty
thousand
dollar
figure
and
take
that
out
as
savings,
because
the
salary
ranges
are
Broad,
and
it
may
be
that
if,
if
the
folks
in
these
positions
are
in
a
situation
where
they
are
having
to
do
a
lot
of
different
and
difficult
work,
the
mayor
May
certainly
within
her
authority
to
change
those
salaries
within
the
ranges.
R
C
G
G
A
C
P
P
They
will
do
Master,
Plan
development
and
oversight
of
the
construction
and
contract
Administration
for
all
parks,
Trails
natural
lands.
Right
now
we
have
one
person
in
this
position
and
it
is
stretched,
and
we
would
love
to
have
two
people
in
this
position
to
follow
the
construction
and
the
planning
processes
to
ensure
that
public
lands
is
is
doing
what
the
public
is
looking
for
and
making
sure
that
the
projects
are
are
ran
very
smoothly.
N
A
A
L
P
That
is
pulling
a
lot
of
us
into
the
weeds
of
of
these
projects,
and
so
this
person
Not
only
would
do
the
public
Outreach
for
for
those
projects,
but
they
would
also
work
with
our
volunteer
programs,
which
are
growing.
We
just
put
a
new
online
volunteer
program,
sign
up
on
our
webpage
and
our
our
volunteer
programs
are
full
and
people
are
dying
to
get
out
there
and
volunteer
with
us
this.
So
this
person
would
help
coordinate
some
of
that.
P
They
would
work
with
our
new
pilot
Park
ambassador
program,
so
we're
we've
just
started.
We're
I
mean
it's
this
week,
we're
just
starting
a
park
ambassador
program,
so
this
person
would
work
with
Park
ambassadors
out
in
our
our
Parks.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
funding
for
the
ambassadors
at
this
time,
but
working
with
them
to
make
sure
they're
in
the
right
place
and
talking
to
folks
and
just
helping
to
make
our
Park
experience
the
best
it
can
be,
and
they
would
also
work
with
our
growing
friends
groups.
P
We
have
quite
a
few
friends
groups.
Now
we
even
have
one
starting
on
the
west
side,
which
we're
really
excited
about,
and
this
person
would
help
facilitate
those
friends
groups
and
help
them
with
their
projects.
They
do
a
lot
of
volunteer
projects
as
well
and
they
support
Parks.
Many
of
them
also
do
fundraising.
So
that's
what
this
position
would
do.
Could
a
deputy
director
do
that?
Yes,
deputy
director,
could
the
deputy
director
that
I've
proposed
we
have
additional
other
duties
that
I'm
happy
to
go
through
as
well.
A
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna.
Are
there
any
other
thoughts
from
council
member
or
to
give
a
deputy
director?
Then
we
could
have
a
volunteer
coordinator
that
would
probably
be
less
or
somebody
that
or
an
apprentice
program
for
some
of
the
communication
Outreach
pieces
of
things,
maybe
not
being
able
to
do
all
of
the
things
Kristin
said.
But
if
we
are,
you
know
pushing
some
of
the
Apprentice
programs
or
things
like
that.
Then
some
of
the
things
that
were
mentioned
would
definitely
fall
under
some
of
that.
O
I
do
think
that
someone
like
this
can,
just
in
in
my
experience
with
non-profits
a
volunteer
coordinator,
pays
for
itself
10
times
over
the
amount
of
people
that
it
can
draw
in
and
coordinate
their
efforts
for
free
having
volunteers
like
the
friends
groups
that
simply
care
about
the
spaces
in
their
neighborhoods
that
they
utilize
and
can
bring
that
love
to
and
put
their
work.
To
show
that
love.
It
is
absolutely
worth
the
investment
primes.
The
pump.
A
A
P
Don't
write
those
generally
sometimes
I
help,
but
we
work
together
on
which
opportunities
and
funding
opportunities
that
we
want
to
seek
out
I
work
on
community
relationships,
in-house
process
improvements,
so
this
person
this
position
would
play
a
key
role
on
on
some
special
projects.
Primarily
their
oversight
is
day-to-day
management
of
public
lands,
amenities
and
public
spaces,
and
it
would
pull
myself
out
of
the
weeds
and
allow
me
to
be
more
of
an
oversight
person
for
our
managed
spaces.
P
Looking
at
improving
our
permitting
system
to
make
Salt
Lake
City
more
vet
friendly
again,
this
person
would
also
work
with
friends
groups.
So
we'd
have
the
person
pulling
in
all
of
these
volunteers
and
working
with
friends
groups,
but
then
we
also
have
to
manage
that
with
our
operational
groups
and
and
make
sure
the
operational
groups
are
coordinated
with
all
of
the
volunteer
and
the
friends
groups.
P
So
there's
a
lot
of
coordination
that
happens
happens
there
with
you,
know
the
equipment
and
the
timing
and
and
the
oversight
of
volunteers,
and
this
person
would
also
help
us
look
at
strategies
for
attracting
and
maintaining
seasonal
and
full-time
staff.
As
Lorna
said
right
now,
we're
we're
very
understaffed
with
our
seasonal
employees.
P
Those
strategies
and
work
with
staff
to
to
get
more
people
online
would
be
another
role
for
this
person,
but
primarily
this
person
would
oversee
our
maintenance
teams
and
work
to
make
sure
that
our
divisions
are
communicating
and
working
together
and
that
we're
all
following
similar
processes
and
and
within
Salt
Lake
City
policy
and
ordinance.
So
that's
what
this
position
is
is.
Is
it's
really
more?
P
E
I
have
a
question
Christian
mentioned,
like
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
things
that
this
person
potentially
might
have
to
do,
but
I
thought
we
did
in
our
previous
conversations.
There
were
some
positions
that
were,
for
example,
long-range
planning
or
Master
planning
and
another
one
was
they
might
write
grants
and
try
to
find
more
money
to
so
I
have.
It
seems
like
we're
already
over
for
the
or
for
this
Deputy.
It
seems
like
we're
already
given
so
many
tasks
that
it
looks
like.
E
We
might
need
more
people
in
the
future
to
do
all
those
things
and
or
am
I
confused,
and
we
do
already
have
those
folks
that
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
funded
and
and
now
we're
overlapping,
like
your
deputy
and
those
guys
are
going
to
be
doing
slightly.
The
same
am
I
the
only
one
confused
about
that.
Maybe
I
misunderstood.
P
You
know,
I
might
I
might
have
said
that
in
a
weird
way,
but
so
this
person
wouldn't
be
doing
the
long-range
planning
and
and
seeking
out
funding.
They
would
provide
space
for
me
to
be
able
to
do
more
of
that
long-range
planning
the
budgeting,
Contracting
oversight
of
fiscal
controls,
making
sure
that
you
know
our
our
teams
are
communicating.
This
person
is
an
operations
position
and
this
person
would
oversee
a
lot
of
those
all
of
the
operations
that
have
been
in
public
lands.
F
F
N
Yes,
master
I
appreciate
honor,
bringing
that
up,
because
when
Chris
asked
the
question
about
the
the
coordinator
and
the
deputy
director
I
thought,
that's
the
route
that
he
was
going
was
to
eliminate
one
of
those
positions
and
I
thought
that
Kristen
did
an
excellent
job
explaining
that
to
me
to
all
of
us
actually
describing
that
that
position
could
be
done
by
both
the
deputy
director.
So
that's
just
my
two
cents.
J
L
If
we
were
concerned
about
money,
I
think
that
the
deputy
director
could
do
some
of
the
Community
Partnership
coordinator
work
so
but
I
supported
the
Community
Partnership
one
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that,
like,
if
I
had
to
choose
it
sounds
to
me
like
the
deputy
director
is
more
important,
but
that's
just
to
clarify
my
position.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
and.
C
Last
one
of
the
department
or
Division
and
public
services,
I'm
Lorna,
shared
at
the
beginning
of
the
discussion
about
the
estimated
difference
between
the
department
and
the
division
in
terms
of
salary
levels.
I'm
not
positive
I
want
to
put
that
in
as
like
a
balancing
figure.
Yet
until
we
like
work
it
through
with
Mary
Beth
but
I'm
just
leaving
it
there
for
information.
Q
O
Still
so
beat
up
already
I'm
exhausted
I,
certainly
like
the
idea
of
elevating
parks
to
a
department
to
be
able
to
show
that
give
the
emphasis
that
this
is
a
priority
for
our
city
for
our
residents.
We
have
a
lot
of
green
space
that
needs
a
lot
of
Maintenance.
A
lot
of
carrying
and
I.
Think
elevating
it
to
the
department
level
would
be
a
good
thing
to
show
that.
A
N
I,
don't
want
to
be
a
jerk,
but
I
guess
I'm
going
to
be
being
you're
owning
your
own.
Business
means
that
you
have
to
do
hard
decisions
and
do
hard
things,
and
that
this
is
a
hard
one.
I
know
everybody
wants
to
feel
good
and
create
its
own
department,
but
remember
sustainability,
Economic
Development.
They
should
not
be
their
own
departments.
They
should
be
sliding
in
underneath
everybody
else,
and
here
we
are
we're.
N
O
N
A
E
And
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
like
the
like
the
public,
the
Constitutions
of
taxpayers,
are
understanding
fully
what
we're
getting
into
by
creating
a
new
Department
like
this
will
cost
us
something
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
fully
aware
and
that's
something
that
they
want.
I
I'm
I'm,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
in
favor,
like
I,
think
I
think
they
they
deserve
to
be
a
department.
E
But
maybe
not
this
year
like
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
of
public
Outreach,
like
James
said
earlier
earlier
in
the
conversation
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
sure,
because
I
don't
want
to
commit
my
my
constituents
or
something
that
they
might
not
be
so
that
might
not
be
their
like
number
one
priority
and
that
they
will
have
to
pay
for
later.
So.
A
L
N
I
think
there
are
other
50
other
departments
that
would
feel
the
same
way
Chris
so
I,
don't
think
the
pink
playing
favorites
is
the
same
thing
that
we're
doing
right
here,
and
you
know
all
we're
doing
is
increasing
salaries
and
I
know.
That's
why
everybody's
receiving
text
messages
from
everybody
in
these
departments
wanting
to
have
this
stuff,
elevated,
so
I
I
am
completely
against
against
this.
Just
exactly
what
Anna
said,
we
need
to
go
out
to
the
taxpayers
who
are
going
to
be
paying.
N
L
N
When
I'm
looking
at
a
tax
increase,
I
have
no
hesitation
in
doing
a
tax
increase
for
police
at
all,
but
when
it
comes
to
doing
a
department,
so
people
feel
good.
There's
absolutely
no
reason
for
me
to
do
that
until
we
go
and
discuss
it
with
the
residents
of
Salt
Lake
City,
and
if
they
want
to
do
it,
let's
go
to
a
vote:
let's
go
to
a
Geo
Bond
and
make
improvements
to
what
we
already
have.
That's
completely
deferred
I
mean
Chris
I,
can't
even
get
my
damn
Park
fixed
over
at
Redwood
Meadows
Park.
Q
A
C
One
thing
that
I
forgot
to
share
earlier
today
was
that
we
had
final
Revenue
numbers
for
the
Judgment
Levy
and
that's
that
one
time,
one
year,
property
tax
adjustment
that
allows
the
city
to
pay
ourselves
back
for
property
tax
revenue.
We
were
shorted
in
the
previous
year.
The
council
usually
does
it
it's
just
a
one-time,
and
that
amount
is
forty
three
thousand
dollars
higher
than
was
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
C
So
the
council
could
choose
to
recognize
that
Revenue,
if
you
want
so
figured
I'd
start
that,
on
a
good
note
right,
okay,
the
next
item
that
the
council
highlighted
was
and
our
plan
just
so
that
the
council
knows
is
to
go
through
the
items
that
the
council
highlighted
and
then
let
me
start.
Let
me
share
my
screen
really
quick
and
not
necessarily
go
through
line
by
line.
The
council
went
through
that
last
part
line
by
line,
because
the
council
highlighted
that
whole
section.
C
So
the
next
item
that
the
council
highlighted
was
the
business
analyst
in
finance
finance
and
the
discussions
I
think
revolved
around
all
the
grant
dollars
coming
in
it's
not
eligible
for
arpa
dollars.
But
the
question
is
the
finance
department
needed
that
extra
business
analyst?
There
is
one
FTE
in
that
Department,
that's
being
added
for
that
purpose.
E
N
A
N
C
E
A
O
O
C
C
C
Final.
It's
not
final
until
like
mid
to
fly,
and
so
thinking
that
there
probably
is
a
way
to
tailor
a
small
business
recovery
program,
tailor
more
specifically
to
about
post
covet
recovery
that
might
be
eligible
for
our
dollars,
and
so
that's
one
thing
that
staff
has
been
talking
about
so
rather
than
funding
it
in
the
general
fund.
You
could
kind
of
flag
it
for
funding
in
a
budget
amendment.
C
C
F
B
Mayor,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
giving
me
just
a
second
council
members,
just
as
a
a
sort
of
orientation
reminder
funding
our
future
Street
projects
are
going
ahead
and
there's
there's
other
Street
projects
from
the
bond,
not
just
the
sales
tax
revenue,
of
course,
and
when
we
close
the
street
for
construction
to
happen.
All
those
small
businesses
currently
get
nothing
in
the
way
of
Sandwich,
Board,
wayfinding,
still
open
Park
here,
directional
and
and
we're
still
open
signage.
There
was
a
incident
when
ninth
South
roundabout
construction
was
happening.
B
The
business
owner
had
to
purchase
their
own
Sandwich
Board
to
say,
open,
enter
this
way,
one
of
the
trucks
crushed
it
during
the
construction
process,
and
they
had.
We
had
nothing
even
to
help
her
replace
that.
So
this
fund
is
really
about
looking
in
the
face
of
the
construction
impacts
that
we
render.
You
know
with
good
intentions,
around
reconstruction
efforts
and
just
helping
those
businesses
with
really
just
the
communication
aspects
on
the
ground
there
to
make
sure
that
the
customers
who
are
being
detoured
can
still
access
their
business.
B
And
when
you
look
at
the
the
impact
from
kovid
on
so
many
small
businesses,
you
know
we'll
we'll
see
how
we
can
link
it
if
we
can
with
the
July
definition,
but
those
construction
projects
are
going
to
go
on.
So
I
hope
that
the
council
could
find
a
way
rather
soon
to
be
able
to
support
the
businesses.
While
we
rebuild
streets.
A
C
It
was
proposed-
and
this
is
like
the
gray
area-
one
it
was
proposed
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
after
the
mayor
submitted
the
budget.
That's
when
the
initial
treasury
guidance
came
out
that
this
the
way
it
was
presented
as
construction
mitigation
for
our
streets
projects
is
not
eligible
for
arpa.
That's
just
the
initial
again,
the
initial
items
of
it.
So
if
the
council
wanted
it
to
go
forward
as
of
July
1,
you
would
need
to
put
it
into
the
budget
into
the
general
fund
budget.
C
G
F
C
G
Yeah
and
I
guess:
I
I
think
that
if
so
included
in
this
green
box,
that
says
85
000
left
is
that
we
have
spent
2.7
on
increasing
CIP
from
six
to
seven
percent
right.
So
my
proposal
would
be
to
take
that
to
six
and
a
half
percent
I
would
like
to
in
to
fund
more
of
the
constituent
CIP
projects,
but
if
we're
doing
that
at
the
expense
of
the
small
businesses
happening
along
the
construction
routes
or
whatever
else,
then
I
am
worried.
C
Can
I
mean
if
the
the
County
transportation
dollars
may
be
eligible
for
this,
but
those
have
already
been
spent
and
so
I
think
that
that's
this
is
the
spot.
You
guys
are
in
the
budget,
which
is
that
this
is
the
money
that's
on
the
table,
and
so
you
kind
of
just
have
to
decide
how
to
arrange
it.
So
you
could
fund
it
with
funding
our
future,
but
it
would
mean
removing
some
other
item
from
funding
our
future.
You
could
fund
it
from
Transportation
dollars
and
CIP
or
maybe
even
well,
no
probably
not
classy.
C
You
could
fund
it
with
with
general
fund
dollars
that
were
otherwise
going
to
CIP,
but
then
that
means
fewer
dollars
in
CIP.
So
this
is
just
the
balancing
that
you
guys
are
at
and
and
with
regard
to
your
suggestion,
to
take
it
to
6.5
councilman
Romano,
just
so
that
when
we're
calculating
on
the
Fly
I'm,
not
making
like
massive
errors,
can
we
adjust
CIP
downwards
so
that
you're
balanced
and
then
we'll
calculate
how
much
the
percentages
sort
of
after
the
fact?
If
that's
okay
so.
N
J
C
N
A
We
added
grapple
is
to
add
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund,
as
it
sits
right
now
for
construction
mitigation.
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
only
reason
I
am
going
to
vote
on
this,
not
because
I
don't
think
we
need
it,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
way
to
make
this
work
with
arpa
funding
and
we
could
wait
to
see
and
then,
if
not,
we
still
could
have
a
budget
amendment
to
fund
this
out
of
the
general
fund.
A
E
C
I
think
it's
likely
that
these
funds
would
be
spent
before,
like
I,
think
that
if
you
want
to
fund
this
with
arpa,
you
should
not
put
it
into
the
general
fund
now
I.
Think.
If
you
want
to
wait
and
fund
it
with
arpa,
then
it
can
be
considered
in
a
budget
amendment
and
if
it's
not
eligible,
you
can
always
appropriate
fund
balance.
C
L
J
J
G
G
C
M
Absolutely
I
think
our
biggest
concern
is
to
ensure
that
we're
getting
the
information
out
on
a
timely
fashion,
because
if
we
don't
communicate
with
the
stakeholders
that
are
being
impacted,
you
know
that's
that's.
Basically,
our
biggest
concern
is
to
ensure,
in
fact,
we
we
just
had
a
meeting
about
this
and
and
how
incredible
important
it
is
for
us
to
communicate
with
them.
M
C
I
think
we
also
sometimes
have
a
like
different
roles.
Right,
like
Transportation,
has
a
role
to
manage
the
project
and
deliver
it
on
time,
and
economic
development
has
a
role
of
liaising
with
businesses
to
kind
of
troubleshoot
what
what
unique
needs
they
might
have
and
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
that
Transportation
has
always
like
been
suited
to
fill
that
role
right
and
that's
why
we've
had
some
times
this
extra.
E
L
C
O
C
S
C
B
I'll
just
mentioned
that
it
is
absolutely
my
desire
and
intention,
I
think
with
2020.
We
just
didn't
have
the
bandwidth
to
create
a
policy,
but
we
would
really
support
a
policy
that
contemplates
even
a
half
a
percentage
of
the
total
Capital
cost.
Maybe
one
percent
of
the
total
Capital
cost
of
a
construction
project
to
be
set
aside
for
mitigate
small
business
impact
mitigation
and
that
that's
our
desire
and
intention
Blake's
checking
on.
We
think
that
the
budget
of
300
West
we
were
able
to
work
that
in
because
it
was
such
a.
S
Yeah
thanks
it's
my
understanding
that
there
is
a
percentage
dedicated
to
that
project.
We've
got
Transportation
on
the
call,
but
really
engineering
will
have
a
specific
and
exact
answer
to
that
they're,
not
on
the
call
now
but
I'm
working
on
getting
that
to
you
happy
to
put
it
in
the
chat
once
I
get.
The
official
word.
C
I
think
that
this
may
be
one
of
those
cases
where
the
coordination
among
departments
is
the
is
the
thing
that
needs
to
be
is
the
nut.
That
needs
to
be
cracked
as
as
much
as
the
funding,
because,
like
I
said
I
think
Transportation
has
their
their
charge
to
to
deliver
the
project
and
and
thinks
about
it
in
a
different
way
than
Economic.
Development
does
Courtney.
A
C
Okay,
let's
see
the
next
item
is
an
item
that
was
included
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget.
That's
not
eligible
for
arpa
dollars.
It
was
forty
five
thousand
dollars
for
Tech
Lake
City
and
some
council
members
expressed
an
interest
in
finding
a
way
to
fund
that
in
the
general
fund,
I'll
start
sharing.
J
C
C
C
M
I
I
can
basically
add.
This
is
one
of
our
initiatives
that
we
have
been
working
on
to
ensure
we
have
the
right
ecosystems
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
to
create.
Basically,
you
know
growth
and
our
tax
base
really
is
strong
as
it
needs
to
be
so.
Tech
city
is
a
big
part
of
what
we're
doing
right
now.
We're
working
on
on
this
really
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
we're
attracting
the
right
businesses.
M
No,
it's
it's.
Basically
we're
going
to
be
using
the
funds
to
basically
work
on
this
area
that
we
have
already
started.
As
you
have
seen,
we've
brought
the
mayor
had
recursion
is
when
the
companies
came
from
the
University
of
Utah.
So
basically
it's
just
to
continue
funding
the
activities
that
we're
engaged
in.
So
it's
it's
not
a
position.
It's
not
a
an
fde.
M
So
you
know
I
know
that
we're
part
of
a
group
that
is
also
working
on
this.
So
that's
gonna,
go
to
to
work
on
those
part
of
that
group
that
we're
working
with
right
now
and
I
can
actually
get
the
person
who
is
running
this
initiative
to
join
us
and
even
provide
some
additional
information.
I,
don't
have
all
the
details
right
at
the
top
of
my
fingers.
I
apologize,
but
I
can
definitely
get
an
answer
for
you.
A
C
C
The
council
discussed
wanting
to
find
ways
to
add
that
those
resources
to
planning
through
the
general
fund,
rather
than
arpa
and
so
planning
responded
with
a
couple
of
different
levels
of
ftes
that
the
council
could
consider
all
of
the
items.
I
should
note
in
this
column
are
10
months
of
funding
the
same
kind
of
concept
we
were
talking
about.
J
C
E
Yes,
like
yes
like
I,
don't
think
there's
a
I,
don't
know
if
the
the
rest
of
the
Council
would
like
to
discuss
this,
but
you
we
all
have
seen
how
much
work
and
how
much
things
we
want
them
to
do
and
they
can't
get
to
because
of
the
amount
of
work
that
they
have
and
I
think
this
is
a
yes
for
me.
Absolutely.
We
need
to
fund
the
planning
division.
C
Sorry,
councilmember
Baltimore
that
we
we
linked
these
discussions
because
when
we
asked
planning
would
it
make
sense
to
fund
those
three
planners
at
that
level
it
was
a
little
more
complicated
than
just
putting
them
in
the
budget
at
that
level.
So
what
they
came
back
with
were
were
these
line
items,
but
you,
if
you
can
see
that
I'm
highlighting.
J
C
J
G
C
A
C
A
R
G
A
A
A
A
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
but
can
I
just
highlight
something
that,
to
be
honest,
the
problem
isn't
enough
planners
in
the
planning
department.
It's
that
we're
not
approving
projects
they
comma
to
us
seven
times
and
we
haven't
even
voted
on
it.
So
I
think
it's
time
that
when
we
do
have
a
project
come
to
us
that
we
start
voting
on
it
and
not
have
the
morale
of
the
planning
department
go
down
the
drain.
A
C
There
is
some
new
information
on
that
one
and
the
reason
I'm
going
to
add
this
is
that
the
council
members
asked
a
question
about
using
one
of
the
ftes
to
provide
funding
for
reclassification
reclassifications,
and
the
short
answer
is
that
that
works.
So
if
the
council
funded
two
ftes
and
then
one
directed
funding
for
one
of
the
ftes
to
be
for
reclassifications
instead
of
salaries,
those
re
reclassifications
would
cost
about
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
and
because
there's
89
000
each
for
prosecutors.
That
actually
leaves
about
ten
thousand
dollars
savings.
A
C
C
J
C
A
C
A
A
A
U
Thank
you
for
your
time,
council
members
and
thank
you,
chair,
Fowler,
I'm
interested,
not
because
of
strong
expertise,
but
because
I
see
the
Housing
Authority
playing
a
really
strong
role.
They're
located
within
my
neighborhood,
the
ballpark
neighborhood
and
in
my
professional
role
as
a
medical
educator.
U
A
A
N
A
V
A
Doing
really
well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
joining
us
today
and
Rahim
is
looking
to
be
appointed
to
the
position.
I
tried
to
just
put
the
whole
thing
together:
the
police
civilian
review
board.
Why
don't
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you're
interested
in
the
work
position.
V
I
I
felt,
like
I
needed
to
step
up
my
community
involvement
and
being
a
part
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
Community
I
live
here,
900
West,
but
being
a
part
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
Community
is
important
to
me
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
something
that
I
could
see
myself
doing
and
helping
out
the
the
the
council
in
the
community
that
as
all
in
the
police
right.
So
it's
really
it's
kind
of
personal.
For
me
as
well.
V
A
You
don't
see
any
hands
just
some
thumbs
up,
so
that's
good
Raheem.
Thank
you
so
much
for
wanting
to
serve
on
this
board.
It
is
an
incredibly
important
board
for
all
of
us
and
we
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
take
the
time
to
be
a
part
of
this
board
and
we,
you
will
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda
as
well
at
our
formal
meeting
at
seven.
A
A
A
W
A
A
Tina
we
look
forward
to
having
you
serve
on
this
board.
It's
always
I
I,
always
appreciate
when
residents
step
up
and
dedicate
some
of
their
time
to
the
many
needs
of
the
city,
and
this
is
one
of
them
and
look
forward
to
having
your
voice
in
there
and
being
heard.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
today
and
you
will
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda.
A
T
A
R
Chair,
we
do
have
one
announcement
that
we
could
do
and
be
great
okay,
and
that
is
the
mayor's
office
has
kindly
offered
to
have
council
members
join
them
at
the
Giant
in
our
city,
banquet
that
is
held
every
every
year.
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
held
last
year,
but
in
most
years
it
is
Thursday,
June
24th
and
they
are
honoring
past
humanist
human
I
can't
even
say
it
posthumously,
Bob
Garff.
R
So
sorry,
I
couldn't
get
this
up
on
my
screen
but
anyway,
so
the
we
just
need
a
count
of
how
many
council
members
are
interested
in
going
to
that.
It's
Thursday
June
24th
6
pm,
and
they
would
like
to
find
out
by
tomorrow
at
3
pm.
If
council
members
are
interested
in
going
and
that's
all
I
have
and
I
know,
may
Madam
chair,
you
have
to
take
an
extra
long
dinner
break
tonight
because
we
do
have
a
couple
of
council
members
who
have
other
commitments.
A
Is
correct:
council
members
you
we
are
breaking
for
dinner
right
now
and
ex
we
have
our
formal
meeting
starting
at
seven.
So
please
be
back
in
time
for
that
and
and
then
we'll
we
will
have
work
session
after
this
special
set.
Formal
meeting.
So
don't
get
your
hopes
up
that
it
will
just
be
in
and
out
real
quick.
We
need
to
get
back
into
work
session.
Two
okay!