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A
Everyone
to
today's
city
council
meeting
our
work
session
of
today.
What
is
today
february,
16th
2021.
A
We
are
grateful
to
have
you
joining
us
as
we
continue
to
hold
electronic
meetings
due
to
the
practice
of
social
distancing,
even
though
we
are
not
in
person,
this
is
still
considered
an
open
and
public
meeting
for
the
work
session.
We
welcome
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
on
the
council's
agenda.
Page
youtube,
slc,
tv
or
facebook
live.
As
many
of
you
know,
there
is
no
public
comment
during
a
work
session.
A
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
our
updates
from
the
administration.
So
I
will
I
see
mayor
mendenhall
here.
Thank
you
mayor
for
joining
us.
It's
always,
but
it's
always
nice
to
see
you
at
our
meetings.
We,
I
also
see
lisa
schaefer,
our
chief
administrative
officer,
and
I
oh
and
there's
rachel.
We
we've
got
the
whole
crew
and
rachel
otto,
the
chief
of
staff,
so
I
don't
know
what
your
order
is,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
mayor
and
go
from
there.
B
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
think
you
just
get
me
today
unless
there's
questions
or
details
that
lisa
and
rachel
have.
If
council
members
have
any
questions
and
it's
not
too
long
an
update
today,
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
our
employees
and
covid
36
of
our
total
city.
Family
have
used
city
provided
or
federally
provided
leave.
B
At
this
point,
our
city,
hr
webpage
will
start
showing
updates
on
vaccines,
including
where
and
when
they
are
being
given
as
they
become
available,
and
we
wanted
to
just
thank
the
council,
where
federal
support
hasn't
always
been
sufficient.
B
We're
grateful
for
the
support
to
use
our
own
city
dollars
to
ensure
that
our
employees
always
have
access
to
paid
leave
for
exposure,
illness
or
taking
care
of
family
members
related
to
covid.
I
want
to
give
you
an
update
on
raise
up
slc
you'll.
Remember
that
the
salt
laker
card
was
launched
late
last
year
in
the
summer.
Actually,
and
cash
benefits
are
designed
to
go
out
through
the
form
of
a
debit
card
at
500.
B
B
Those
partners
have
distributed
a
total
of
199
thousand
dollars
worth
of
support
to
our
residents
and
it's
spectacular,
but
we
have
more
money
to
distribute
so
right
now
we
need
to
get
the
word
out
even
more
to
make
sure
that
these
funds
get
into
people's
hands
in
salt
lake
city
proper
by
june
31st,
because
there
are
cares
dollars
here
and
our
own
city
budget
process.
We
need
to
get
these
funds
distributed
in
the
next
few
months.
B
I'm
going
to
put
two
links
in
the
chat
in
just
a
second
and
those
are
the
websites
where
people
can
go
to
apply
and
fill
out
an
online
form,
or
they
can
go
directly
to
these.
These
community
support
partners,
I'll
reiterate
that
it's
community
data,
sunitas
university,
neighborhood
partners
and
the
community
foundation
of
utah,
I'm
sorry
utah,
community
action
or
cap,
so
I'll
put
those
links
or
somebody
who'll
help
me
put
those
links
in
the
chat
in
just
a
moment,
they're
in
english
and
spanish,
and
help
people
connect
with
those
resources.
B
We
know
the
residents
are
out
there.
We've
just
got
to
connect
with
them
and
get
them
these
500
cards.
I
want
to
give
an
a
brief
update
on
homelessness.
As
we
do.
B
Our
service
provider
outreach
teams
will
be
doing
intensive
work
there
over
the
next
week
or
more
to
connect
as
many
people
as
possible
with
services
and
shelter
and
just
a
reminder.
We
have
the
dashboard
active
some
and
it's
always
updated
with
the
last
night's
information,
which
is
the
soonest
information
we
can
get
from
those
service
providers
to
share,
and
even
at
the
time
you
know,
the
fluidity
of
bed
availability
is
very
volatile.
So
at
the
moment,
in
time,
when
that
cleanup
happened
there
weren't
beds
available,
it
doesn't
mean
there
weren't
beds
available
within
24
hours.
B
After
that,
that's
why
this
continued
outreach
is
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
people
into
shelter
from
that
area.
There's
also
some
new
and
some
growing
camps
in
the
areas
of
8th
and
9th
south
and
3rd
to
4th
west,
as
well
as
in
a
few
locations
along
north
temple.
So
the
city
and
the
county
are
working
together
to
form
outreach
and
resolution
plans
for
these
sites,
as
we
continuously
do.
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
housing.
Of
course
you
can
interrupt
me
if
you
have
any
questions
at
any
point.
B
Please
do
but
thanks
again
to
the
council
for
your
support
and
direction
on
the
hud
funds
over
the
past
several
months,
you're
going
to
be
considering
adopting
a
resolution
in
the
formal
meeting
tonight
that
allocates
over
4.5
million
dollars
toward
housing,
stability,
shelter
and
homeless
services.
B
We
as
a
city
invested
in
just
over
64
million
dollars
in
affordable
housing,
and
that
resulted
in
2539
units
of
housing.
This
includes
new
or
rehabbed
projects
that
received
funding
from
the
rda
housing,
trust
fund,
hdtf
and
hdf
the
home
fee.
All
fee
waivers
also
were
part
of
it.
Land,
discounts
or
land
write
downs.
B
So
that's
a
tremendous
amount
of
investment
housing
stability
assistance
that
was
available
in
2020
was
3.2
million
dollars
in
rental
assistance
and
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
in
mortgage
assistance
and,
as
you
know,
the
rental
assistance
versus
mortgage
assistance
was
informed
by
the
most
up-to-date
data
we
could
get
from
the
kempsey
gardner
policy
center
and
jim
woods.
Research
that
informed
how
much
we
should
break
that
out
and
that
housing
stability
assistance
includes
programs
that
are
funded
by
hud,
esg,
home
and
hopla
and
are
funding
our
future
and
our
general
fund
from
the
city.
B
B
So
it's
a
tremendous
amount
of
money,
we're
grateful
for
the
council
working
with
us
to
get
it
through
our
own
internal
processes
in
a
transparent
and
appropriate
way
for
the
federal
dollars
and
looking
forward,
hopefully
to
you
approving
that
4.5
million
tonight.
That's
all
for
my
update
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
any
questions.
If
you
have
some.
A
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
council
members.
Any
questions:
okay,
seeing
no
hands.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
whoever's
next
lisa,
rachel
chief.
I
see
the
chief
here
that
might
come
later,
but
rachel
or
lisa.
B
C
What
I'd
like
to
talk
about
today
is,
I
know
every
week
for
the
last
little
while
the
the
racial
equity
police
commission
has
given
updates
to
to
the
council
and
everybody
as
far
as
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
some
of
the
recommendations,
I
want
to
point
out
something.
Last
week
I
think
dante
spoke
to
the
field
training
officer
program
that
we
have
field
training
officers.
C
Seven
are
of
diverse
background,
so
within
one
with
one
fell
swoop,
we
doubled
our
diversity,
which
is
good,
but
we're
going
to
do
better
and
we've
got
plans
to
to
build
a
a
process
and
a
program
to
really
recruit
that
type
of
diversity
into
our
police
department.
Because
diversity
really
is
like
throwing
a
rock
in
a
pond,
you
throw
the
rock
in
and
the
ripples
go
out.
C
It
goes
out
through
our
department
and
then,
as
we
go
out
through
the
community,
it
ripples
through
the
community.
The
communities
look
at
us
and
then
they
want
to
come
back.
They
want
to
be
part
of
this
organization,
so,
as
we've
talked
about
our
hiring
and
our
hiring
and
recruitment
practices,
the
last
class
that
we
hired,
10
of
which
were
of
diverse
backgrounds-
and
so
that's
a
30
percent.
C
That's
30
of
those
officers
that
we
hired
so
the
diversity
that
we
bring
into
this
department
builds
that
trust
and
relationships
into
our
community
and
then
the
community
returns
and
brings
that
diversity
back
to
us.
So
it's
really
diversity
begets
diversity,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
that
update
a
lot
of
exciting
things
are
happening,
and
so
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
in
a
couple
weeks
about
recruitment
and
hiring,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
have,
if
you
have
any
questions,
be
glad
to
answer
those.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
update.
I
just
for
my
clarification.
So
you
said
there
was
I
I
couldn't
follow
along
with
all
the
numbers,
six
of
60
and
then
seven
of
20,
and
then
something
can
you
just
recap
those
numbers
like
where
we
are
and
what's
in
our
class
sorry,
I
just
couldn't
follow
along
thanks.
I.
C
Don't
know,
I
understand,
there's
a
cadre
of
field
training
officers,
we
call
them
ftos
because
we
like
acronyms,
but
anyway,
we
have
about
60
in
the
department.
Well
as
we
prepare
to
to
take
on
the
new
recruits
that
are
coming
out
of
the
academy
and
the
ones
we'll
be
getting
here
shortly.
C
We
would
like
to
build
up
that
pool
of
ftos,
and
so
we
went
through
and
selected
20
new
recruits
and
they
started
a
two-day
or
20-hour
training
program
and
so
of
those
20
new
police
officers
that
all
raised
their
hand
and
said
I
want
to
do
this.
Job
seven
are
of
diverse
background,
so
we
had
60
and,
and
six
of
them
were
adverse
background.
D
A
Thank
you
chief,
thank
you.
Anyone
else
and
rachel
did
you.
Was
there
more
updates
from
from
administration.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
we
will
move
to
item
number
two
on
our
agenda.
Also
thank
you,
rachel
lisa
mayer
and
chief
brown
for
joining
us
today.
Item
number
two
is
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing,
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
allison
roland
from
this
city
council.
A
F
You,
madam
chair,
just
a
quick
update
on
my
behalf
or
on
my
from
me.
Let's
just
say
from
me.
Speaking
of
the
rep
commission,
there
are
subcommittee
meetings
tomorrow
february
17th
they
are.
They
include
school
safety
subcommittee
at
4,
pm
policies
and
practice
at
4,
pm
and
officer
training
at
5
pm,
so
council,
members
and
the
public
can
listen
in.
There
are
comment
periods,
probably
the
easiest
way
to
say
it
is
google
slc,
rep,
commission
and
you'll
be
able
to
get
the
agendas
for
those
and
the
links
to
the
actual
meetings.
F
G
G
G
G
The
financial
profile
has
details
about
the
financial
structure
of
the
revenues
expenses
and
how
those
are
classified
in
the
department.
So,
for
example,
each
program
and
function
within
a
division
will
show
the
authorized
staff
positions,
the
revenues,
the
expenditures
and
the
variance
from
budget
to
actual
over
the
last
three
fiscal
years.
G
The
other
deliverable,
that's
nearly
complete,
is
the
organization
profile
of
the
police
department
and
that's
anticipated
to
have
a
draft
ready
for
review
later
this
week
once
the
financial
profile
and
the
organization
profile
are
complete.
The
auditors
will
proceed
to
looking
at
internal
affairs,
the
discipline
system
and
categorizing
those
line.
Item
costs
based
on
the
194
cost
codes.
A
Sorry,
I
don't
see
anything
and
just
sorry
about
that.
I
just
received
a
text
that
kate,
who
is
scheduled
next
kate
bradshaw,
our
city
government
relations
lobbyist,
who's
scheduled
next
on
agenda.
A
Item
number:
three
is
on
the
senate
floor
right
now,
so
we'll
let
her
do
her
job
and
skip
agenda
item
number
three
until
kate's
able
to
join
us
and
that
will
take
us
to
agenda
item
number
four,
which
is
the
rezone
at
approximately
706
to
740,
west
900,
south
and
710
to
739,
west
genesee
avenue,
and
for
this
briefing
we
have
brian
fulmer
from
the
council
office
policy,
analyst
department,
amy,
thompson,
senior
planner,
chris
earle
blake,
thomas
nick
norris
and
molly
robinson
all
from
can
and
planning.
E
You
mentioned
this
is
a
request
to
rezone
the
properties,
which
also
include
two
unnamed
alley
segments
and
council
members
will
recall
you
voted
to
vacate
one
of
the
alley
segments
in
august
of
2020
and
you
were
briefed
on
the
other
ali
segment
that
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
be
vacated
on
january
19th
of
this
year.
A
public
hearing
on
that
second
alley
segment
vacation
is
scheduled
for
march
2nd
and
a
potential
vote
on
march
16th.
So
there's
a
little
background
there.
E
J
Thanks
brian
sorry,
let
me
grab
my
notes.
I
was
thinking
310
so
get
prepared
here.
J
So,
as
brian
mentioned,
this
is
a
request
by
the
property
owner
to
for
a
map,
amendment
to
rezone,
12
parcels
and
two
portions
of
the
alley
at
approximately
706
to
740
west
tonight,
south
and
710
to
739
west
genesee
avenue.
The
properties
are
currently
zoned
by
manufacturing
and
the
request
is
to
rezone
those
to
rmu
and
the
petitions
both
received
a
favorable
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission.
J
J
Okay,
so
next
slide,
please.
J
And
this
is
just
a
picture
of
the
site
from
the
corner
of
900
south
and
southwest.
There
are
two
existing
commercial
buildings
on
the
site
and
the
applicant
plans
to
rehabilitate
those
for
restaurant
and
retail
type
uses
and
that
are
allowed
under
the
existing
m1
and
then
their
intent
is
to
redevelop
the
rest
of
that
site
with
multi-family
housing
which
currently
isn't
allowed
under
nm1.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
this
rezone
request
next
slide.
Please.
J
And
the
subject
properties
are
located
west
of
interstate
15
and
1
900
south,
which
is
one
of
the
gateways
to
the
west
side.
Neighborhoods
several
community
uses
surround
the
neighborhood,
surround
the
subject
site,
including
the
nine
line
trail.
The
nine
line
bike
park
community
gardens
the
street
frontage
of
the
vacant
portion
of
the
properties
is
al,
is
along
900,
south
700,
west
and
genesee
avenue.
J
The
surrounding
properties
on
the
block
are
zoned
m1.
However,
with
the
exception
of
just
a
few
properties,
the
primary
use
is
predominantly
single-family
residential,
there's,
also
a
religious
use,
directly
adjacent
to
the
site
on
the
northeast
corner.
It's
occupied
by
the
sunum
religious
group
next
slide,
please
the
project's
situated
along
900,
south
and
700
west
industrial
corridor,
an
area
that
the
west
side
master
plan
identifies
as
an
important
gateway
into
the
larger
westside
community.
J
J
Under
the
proposed
army
zoning
districts,
the
interior
side
yard
setback
is
the
same
as
what's
allowed
under
the
existing
m1
zone
and
under
the
proposed
rmu
zone,
the
rear
yard
setback
is
greater
than
what's
required
under
the
under
the
existing
m1
zone.
I
I
just
want
to
know
that,
depending
on
how
the
applicants
end
up
configuring
the
site
for
the
development,
it's
possible
that
the
site
may
not
have
any
rear
yard,
the
yard
areas
would
be
determined
when
a
building's
actually
proposed
for
the
site.
J
The
design
standards
are
the
forty
percent
ground
floor
glass
requirement
for
facades
facing
the
street
and
fifteen
foot
maximum
length
of
any
blank
wall,
uninterrupted
by
windows,
storage
or
architectural
detailing
at
the
ground
floor
along
the
street
facing
facade
under
the
rmu
design
standard.
Something
like
structured
parking
could
be
located
on
the
ground
floor,
which
would
not
be
consistent
with
the
active
pedestrian
oriented
design
envisioned
in
the
master
plan
for
this
important
gateway,
so
staff.
This
also
came.
J
This
condition
of
approval
also
came
out
of
the
community
feedback
that
the
city,
as
well
as
the
applicant,
did
on
their
own
with
the
public,
the
poplar
grove
community
council
and
the
glendale
community
council
both
submitted
letters
of
support
for
this
project.
There
has
been
some
current
concerns
expressed
by
the
summum
group.
Again,
that's
the
property
just
north
of
the
it's.
I
guess
northeast
on
the
corner
of
this
block.
They
have
expressed
concerns
and
we
hold
a
meeting
with
them
on
friday.
J
D
A
K
Sorry
I
had
some
technical
difficulty
and
I'm
going
to
stop
my
video
anyway.
I
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
keep
you
guys
long.
I
just
wanted
to
just
so.
First
of
all,
thanks
amy
for
a
presentation.
This
is
a
pretty
exciting
day,
because
I
think
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
very
long
time
up
to
three
years
and
and
I'm
very
thankful
to
the
community,
the
neighbors
planning
staff
rda,
everybody
that's
been
involved
in
sort
of
trying
to
get
this
project
done.
K
K
This
this
site
came
to
my
attention
about
three
years
ago
and
what
was
pretty
unique
about
it
is
initially
the
two
sites
were
actually
those
two
buildings
that
you
see
on
the
west
side
were
actually
not
under
the
same
ownership.
They
had
been
a
long
time
ago,
but
they've
since
then
been
under
different
ownership.
So
we
had
the
opportunity
to
sort
of
put
the
site
back
together,
and
that
was
obviously
very
appealing
and
one
of
the
things
we
did
when
we
had
that
opportunity
is,
is
to
canvas.
Obviously
the
community.
K
We
talked
with
neighbors
community
council
about
you
know,
potential
development.
What
the
the
community
want
to
see
there
and
it
was
pretty
pretty
clear
very
early
on
that.
You
know
what
people
really
wanted
was
businesses,
restaurants.
They
wanted
to
see
more
businesses
on
that
side
of
of
the
railroad
tracks
or
the
freeway.
So
we
kind
of
came
up
with
this
plan
to
sort
of
reinvigorate
reactivate
those
two
buildings,
they're,
obviously
beautiful
buildings.
We
want
to
keep
them
going.
We
love
the
history
behind
them,
so
we
actually
we're
very
thankful.
K
K
So
the
idea
there
is
to
eventually
have
businesses,
coffee
shops,
restaurants,
potentially
other
businesses
housed
out
of
those
two
out
of
those
two
buildings
on
the
west
side
and
to
really
you
know,
create
you
know
to
sort
of
patronize
those
those
businesses.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
found
out
is
you
know.
The
density
in
this
neighborhood
is
not
that
high
there's
a
lot
of
single
family
homes
to
really
support
the
businesses
we
needed
to
maybe
create
a
little
bit
more
density
in
housing,
also
diversify
the
housing
type.
K
Obviously,
the
master
plan,
as
amy
said,
is,
is
in
favor
of
sort
of
creating
more
multi-family
in
these
notes,
or
we
obviously
have
you
know
a
site
that's
empty
currently
where
we
can
actually
build
some
multi-family,
that's
a
little
bit
denser,
so
the
plan
really
is
is
to
create
create
these
business
for
the
community,
but
also
obviously
bring
in
the
housing
to
support
those
businesses.
K
So
so,
obviously,
in
all
our
discussions
with
everybody,
that
was
really
the
plan,
obviously
to
activate
to
bring
you
know
more
more
people
there
to
actually
create
you
know
more
of
a
community.
You
know
community
a
sense
of
community
to
bring
together
all
those
facets
and,
obviously
that's
why
we're
here
before
you
to
sort
of
ask
for
that
rezone
in
a
sense
of
we
want
to
create
this
this
activity,
this
node.
I
think
it
also
dovetails
a
little
bit
with
a
lot
of
the
plans.
K
The
city
has
for
the
nine
line
to
create
connectivity
between
east
and
west,
given
the
proximity
to
the
freeway.
Obviously
this
used
to
be
m1
zoned.
I
think,
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
freeway,
we
think,
given
the
fact
that
we
are
close
to
free
will
be
a
great
gateway
to
the
west
side.
Obviously,
like,
like
we
said,
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
efforts
and
money
being
spent
on
the
nine
line
to
extend
it
all
the
way
there.
So
I
think
again,
I
think
our
project
really
would
would
dovetail
nicely
with.
K
I
think
the
efforts
the
city
has
put
into
creating
this
connectivity
to
the
jordan
river
park
river
trail
park.
So,
having
said
all
that
we
we
really-
I
don't
want
to-
I
don't
want
to
go
over
my
time,
but
we
really
feel
it's
quite
appropriate
to
change
the
zoning,
but
we
really
want
to
see
more
diversified
housing
type
here
the
city
is
short
on
housing,
so
we
feel
this
is
a
a
great
opportunity
to
create
that.
A
Wonderful.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
joining
us
council
members,
do
you
have
any
questions,
republicans
or
amy
dan.
L
Thank
you
for
the
the
quick
overview,
a
couple
on
the
development
side
of
the
house.
Curiosity:
is
it
all
leasing
or
are
there
any
of
them
for
home
ownership
and
what's
kind
of
your
thoughts
on
the
affordable
housing
side.
K
I
think
currently,
the
plans
are
to
create
a
diverse
mix
of
units.
We
want
to
create
some
live
work.
We
want
to
create
some
town
homes,
some
small
units,
we're
talking
about
micro
units
as
well.
As
you
know,
normal
studios.
I
think
currently,
given
the
plans,
we're
really
thinking
about
leasing,
so
not
ownership.
K
So
that's
that's.
Essentially
what
the
plan
is
currently.
L
And
multiple
layers
of
different,
affordable
housing.
K
We're
we're
we
wanna,
we
want,
I
mean
again
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
financing
and
obviously,
but
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
create
is
whether
you
want
to
call
it
affordable
or
attainable.
We
want
to
create
you,
know,
studios
and
and
price
points
that
are
within
the
realm
of
for
younger
people.
Again,
we,
you
know,
we've
we've.
I
have
a
few
projects
in
the
city.
To
me
the
city
is
lacking
in
you
know:
housing
for
young
families
and
housing
for
young
people
right.
K
E
I
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I've
been
talking
to
max
and
the
crew
for
a
couple
of
years.
Now
I
guess,
there's
a
lot
of
support
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
two
existing
structures
on
the
west
side
and
for
general
redevelopment
here
as
well
from
the
neighborhood,
the
sumim
religious
community.
I
So
for
planning
first
question:
is
you
said
that,
depending
on
how
the
buildings
are
oriented
or
buildings
oriented,
it
may
not
have
a
rear
or
side
setback
requirement?
Talk
through
that
a
little
bit
for
us.
J
So
the
yard
areas
are
determined
just
by
the
our
definition
of
yard
and
because
there
isn't
a
specific
development
associated
with
this
project,
I
think
it
may
be
possible
that
it
doesn't
have
a
rear
yard.
It
has
frontage
on
three
streets
and
I
think
some
of
those
interior
yards
may
be
interior
side
yards,
which
there
isn't
an
interior
side
yard
setback
associated
with
the
rmu.
There's
none
required
and
there's
none
required
with
the
existing
zone
as
well.
J
The
m1,
I'm
not
certain
if
the
yard
areas
would
be
determined
once
we
actually
have
a
building
on
the
site
to
look
at.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that,
because
I
know
that
that
was
one
of
the
points
that
we
were
discussing
on
friday.
I
I
I
guess
a
lot
and
figuring
out:
how
do
we
balance
a
new
development
here
which
is
needed
with
some
of
their
existing
needs
as
well,
which
we
may
not
be
able
to
address
until
after,
but
the
the
rmu
really
doesn't
set
any
any
buffers
there
at
all
like
she
said,
depending
on
how
it's
oriented
so
that'd,
be
a
concern,
maybe
for
max
or
justin,
why
the
rmu
versus
say
an
fbu
or
something.
K
I
mean
to
be
frank
with
you.
I
think
one
of
one
of
our
interests
was,
you
know,
given
the
fact
that
we're
giving
up
a
lot
of
land
to
protect.
You
know
those
two
adaptive.
You
know
those
two
buildings
we
wanted
to
go
a
little
bit
higher,
just
to
create
sort
of
you
know.
One
of
our
hopes
is
to
create
an
ecosystem
so
that
we
have
enough
critical
mass
to
support
those
businesses.
So
really
it's
really
about
the
rmu
zone
versus,
say
something
else.
I
mean
that's
really
kind
of,
and
it's
residential.
K
D
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
rmu
zone
has
been
favored
by
planning
in
relation
to
you
know
like
residential
multi-family
zones
that
are
currently
available
to
ask
for.
So
that's
one
reason
why
we
would
be
asking
for
the
rmu
is
because
it's
looked
on
as
we
understand
it
as
a
more
favorable
solution
for
the
urban
multi-family
developments
that
are,
you
know
the
future
of
salt
lake
city.
D
It
also
allows
and
encourages
the
street
uses
with
the
you
know,
retail
or
opportunity
for
live
work
or
something
along
those
lines
that
we
think
will
help
create
a
vibrant,
a
vibrant,
streetscape
and
sidewalk
escape
that
will
help
really
build
the
neighborhood.
D
Those
are
all
aspects
that
we're
looking
to
have
as
qualities
of
the
future
building
and
that
we
believe
that
the
rmu
gives
us
flexibility.
The
other
thing
that
you
know
that
is
being
entertained
as
part
of
this
rezone
is
that
the
army
would
get
the
d2
design
standards
associated
with
it,
which
will
even
enhance
further
the
requirements
of
the
rmu
and
give
the
city
more
control
over
the
future
development
and
its
relationship
to
the
sidewalking
street.
D
So
those
are
all
things
that
make
the
rmu
attractive
to
us
and
and
which
will
be
a
great
framework
for
the
future
building,
as
we
step
from
a
rezone
into
design.
So.
I
J
I
think
they
proposed
the
rmu
and-
and
we
looked
at
that
and
gave
a
favorable
favorable
recommendation
for
it
in
terms
of
some
of
the
requirements
of
the
rmu.
It
is
lacking
in
terms
of
street
engagement.
It
doesn't
require
active
ground
for
use.
It
doesn't
require
visual
interest,
which
is
why
we've
recommended
adding
those
d2
design
standards,
so
the
rme
zone
alone
actually
has
minimal
design
standards,
which
is
why
we've
recommended
those
additional
d2
standards
in
post.
J
But
otherwise,
yes,
that's
accurate
and
we
didn't
look
at
form-based
zones
just
because
that's
not
what
was
proposed,
but
we
could
certainly
do
that
if
the
council
wanted
us
to
look
further
into
that,
I
I
think
the
foreign-based
zones
would
not
have,
but
for
the
most
part,
I
think
they
wouldn't
give
them
the
height
that
they're
looking
to
get
that
the
army
would
give
them,
which
is
75
feet.
A
A
Okay,
see
none,
it
looks
like
we
will
have
a
public,
a
hearing
to
accept
public
comment
on
march
2nd
and
then
tentative
action
on
march
16th.
So
we
will
revisit
this
thanks.
Everyone.
A
Agenda
item
number
five:
the
street
lighting
master
plan
has
been
pulled
and
will
be
placed
on
a
future
agenda.
I
don't
know
if
you
could,
if
that's
on
everyone's
agenda,
that
you
see
that
it's
been
pulled
or
just
mine,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
a
public
record
that
if
you
did
see
it,
it
has
been
pulled.
So
we
are
cruising
right
along
and
and
we're
not
going
to
have
a
tentative
break
because
we've
only
been
here
for
40
minutes
and
I
know
y'all
can
handle
it
longer
than
that.
A
So
we're
gonna
go
straight
to
agenda
item
number
seven,
which
is
our
ordinance
a
briefing
regarding
zoning
text,
amendments
for
off-street
parking
and
we
have
russell
weeks
from
our
council
staff
eric
james,
nick
norris
and
wayne
mills
all
from
planning.
So
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
russell.
M
It
is
a
rewrite
of
the
current
regulations
for
off-street
parking
and
it
divides
the
city
into
four
off
street
parking
context
based
on
land
use.
The
planning
division
will
go
into
that
in
further
detail
during
its
presentation.
M
The
primary
goals
of
the
revision
include
better
reflecting
the
market
demand
and
the
city's
objectives
and
simplifying
how
the
ordinance
reads.
Among
other
things,
the
planners
also
have
suggested
two
amendments
that
are
not
in
the
ordinance
that
was
in
the
packet.
One
involves
parking
spaces
for
bicycles
in
area
zone
for
commercial
and
industrial
uses.
The
other
involves
loading
births
for
multi-family
structures.
M
I'd
also
like
to
direct
the
council's
attention
to
the
policy
questions
in
the
staff
report
and
amanda
has
has
the
the
presentation
from
planning
available
so
take
it
away.
Eric
and.
H
Okay
appreciate
it
thanks,
madam
chair
members
of
the
council,
appreciate
being
with
you
here
today,
even
if
it's
a
little
early
that
almost
makes
a
little
better
so
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
through
this
quickly
as
well.
Like
russell
explained,
this
has
been
a
long
time
in
the
coming.
This
has
got
roots
in
in
2017
way
back
then
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
through
a
few
items
with
this
next
slide.
Please!
H
So
in
looking
at
this
just
to
keep
it
quite
simple
and
kind
of
breaking
it
down.
The
initial
request-
and
the
background
on
this
is
that
we
were
to
examine
the
off-street
parking
regulations,
including
the
minimum
and
maximum
parking
requirements
which
we
believed
had
become
quite
outdated
and
the
permitted
alternatives
to
those
minimum
and
maximums.
H
E
H
So,
in
looking
kind
of
at
our
purposes
here
there
was
there
were
so
many
things
we
were
attempting
to
accomplish
and
I'll.
Let
your
eye
kind
of
float
to
the
different
purposes
that
were
outlined
here,
but
you
know,
first
and
foremost,
we
wanted
to
align
the
parking
chapter
with
the
with
the
goals
of
the
master
plans
and
the
neighborhood
plans
of
the
city.
H
H
H
So
you'll
have
noticed
this
is
a
large
chapter
update
and
the
ordinance
itself
is
about
40
pages
finished,
and
you
know
the
staff
report
200
pages.
So
how
do
we
break
that
down
and
look
at
what
it
actually
means,
and
so
these
things
right
here
were
the
key
chapter
updates,
and
so,
first
and
foremost,
we
wanted
to
realign
our
purpose
statements
and
that
kind
of
goes
along
with
those
things
that
I
just
shared
of
how
what
purposes
parking
can
accomplish
and
what
it
can
do
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
city.
H
H
Now
we
wanted
to
create
parking
context
and
we'll
get
into
that
more
fully
in
a
little
bit
here,
but
we
felt
that
that
was
key
and
just
kind
of
this
idea
of
one
when
it
comes
to
parking.
One
size
does
not
fit
all,
and
then
we
wanted
to
revise
our
strategies
for
minimum
and
maximum
parking
and
we'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more
as
well.
H
We
wanted
to
increase
bike
parking
throughout
the
city
and
change
our
approach
on
that,
and
then
we
wanted
to
re-examine
and
update
our
parking
alternatives.
We
created
this
transportation
demand
management
a
number
of
years
back.
We
wanted
to
evaluate
if
it
was
working.
What
aspects
were
working
which
ones
were
not
and
make
thorough
updates
there.
So
those
are
the
key
chapter
updates
next
slide.
Please.
E
H
H
Okay,
apologize
lost
my
place
a
little
bit
okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
these
parking
contacts.
I
would
just
go
over
these
briefly.
There's
four
contacts.
The
first
and
most
intense
is
our
transit
context.
So
of
course,
you're
going
to
think
anywhere.
That's
really
well
served
by
mass
transit,
high
density
development
and,
of
course,
those
have
the
lowest
parking
demand,
so
this
was
downtown
near
the
gateway
and
then
along
our
major
transit
corridors
of
north
temple
and
400
south.
H
H
Okay,
so
then
our
going
down
in
intensity,
our
next
most
intense
context
is
the
urban
center
context
and
so
think
of
areas.
You
know
sugar,
house
or
downtown
adjacent.
You
know
kind
of
they're
they're
high
density
they're.
You
know
they
definitely
have
a
lot
of
pedestrian
activity
and
potential,
but
they
are
still
accessed
either
on
a
regional
scale
or
they
still
have
a
component
where
you
know
some.
Some
parking
is
in
demand,
but
you
know
still
quite
dense
next
slide.
H
H
So
these
are
the
small
neighborhood
nodes
kind
of
the
poster
child,
for
this
is,
of
course,
like
ninth
and
ninth,
and
these
have
plenty
of
pedestrian
scale
development
in
amenities,
but
they
really
they
don't
have
the
same
level
of
mass
transit
or
alternatives
that
are
provided
in
some
other
locations,
not
only
that
they
do
attract
clientele
or
people
on
a
regional
scale.
So
there's
people
that
are
commuting
into
them
and
they
by
far
have
the
most
varied
parking
needs.
H
They
need
low
parking,
need
low
entries
to
get
into
or
low
parking
minimums
for
buildings
to
be
reutilized
and
things
like
that,
but
they
also
need
a
high
maximum,
so
they
don't
so
that
the
impacts
of
of
cars
coming
into
the
neighborhood
isn't
too
heavy.
So
you
can
see
the
applicable
zone
zoning
designations
for
that
context,
next
slide.
H
The
last
one
is
our
general
context,
and
that
is
basically
all
other
zoning
districts
and
that's
everything
from
single-family
residential
neighborhoods
to
our
industrial
and
manufacturing
areas
and
then
places
that
are
more
auto
dependent.
I
think
300
west
things
like
that
that
the
car
is
the
primary
means
to
access
the
housing,
the
businesses,
the
workplaces,
so
next
slide.
H
Of
course,
the
the
transit
context
is
really
quite
a
large
area,
it's
probably
our
largest
area
besides
general,
and
focuses
on,
of
course,
the
downtown
and
then
on
our
rail
lines
and
shows
the
strides
that
we
feel
we've
made
with
transportation
options
in
the
last
few
years,
and
then,
of
course,
you
have
urban
center.
This
green
neighborhood
center
in
blue
a
little
more
sporadic
throughout
the
city,
the
smaller
nodes
and
everything
else
in
the
general
context.
H
Next
slide,
okay,
so
a
few
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
look
at
today
that
we
felt
were
important
was
to
to
talk
about
the
alternatives
we
have
to
our
parking
calculations,
and
I
should
mention
or
just
clarify
that,
within
the
context,
each
land
use
still
is
given
a
parking
minimum
and
maximum,
so
they're
still
organized
in
that
fashion,
but
that
you
know,
for
example,
a
restaurant
in
the
transit
context
is
going
to
have
different
parking
needs
in
a
restaurant
in
the
neighborhood
center
or
a
restaurant
in
the
general
context,
so
those
serve
as
the
baseline
of
our
of
our
parking
requirements
and
then
these
alternatives
allow
them
to
raise.
H
The
you
know,
increase
the
maximum
or
to
lower
the
minimums,
and
so
the
first
thing
we
proposed
in
the
new
ordinance
is
to
drop
the
transit
demand
management
strategies
all
together,
as
we
looked
at
those
and
really
did
a
study
on
them,
there
was
a
few
things
one.
H
There
were
certain
areas
of
the
city
where
they
were
being
stacked
quite
heavily
and
oftentimes
for
very
minimal
concessions.
Developers
were
lowering
their
minimums
and
to
a
point
that
it
was
putting
a
burden
on
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
really
not
creating
a
scenario
that
that
really
lowered
the
demand
for
parking.
H
H
So,
with
the
new
ordinance,
we
feel
we've
done
more
to
kind
of
right
size,
the
parking
within
the
context
areas
that
they
are
not
as
critical
as
they
once
were,
and
then
we've
examined
kind
of
the
ones
that
we
felt
were
the
most
important
and
re-examined
them
and
then
included
them.
H
H
And
those
come
from
standards
related
to
affordable
and
senior
housing,
carpool
car
share,
which
is
new
for
us,
and
then
proximity,
there's
new
standards
on
the
proximity
to
mass
transit
and,
and
that
also
includes
proximity,
just
for
clarification
that
has
to
tracks
lines
into
high
frequency
bus
routes
which
the
city
has
invested
in
heavily
over
the
last
little
while
and
then
there's
a
revised
strategies
for.
H
Okay
and
then
we
also
provided
for
a
parking
study
and
revise
strategies
for
that
that
could
be
approved
on
the
administrative
level.
It's
got
a
more
complex
criteria,
but
would
also
allow
for
people
to
submit
a
parking
study,
deeming
that
they,
you
know
how
they
would
need
some
other
requirement
other
than
the
minimums
or
maximums
that
we
provide
and
and
it's
our
only
strategy
to
be
able
to
increase
parking.
H
The
the
current
strategy
was
adopted
through
pretty
complex
system,
but
it's
there.
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
going
through
different
uses
and
things
like
that.
But
I
mean
they
were
really
old
and
they
didn't
often
correlate
to
what
was
actually
needed
on
the
ground
and
they
just
hadn't
been
revised
and
updated
for
a
long
time
and
a
lot
of
them
kind
of
have
their
same
originations
in
old
parking
manuals
and
things
like
that
and
then
just
had
slight
revisions
throughout
the
years.
H
So
the
new
minimums
and
maximums
that
were
recommending
we're,
based
on
our
work
with
a
consultant
that
examined
various
parking
studies,
but
also
new
approaches
and
new
counts
on
varying
cities
throughout
the
country.
H
And
you
know
looking
at
city
and
neighborhood
goals,
and
then
we
worked
really
closely
with
a
lot
of
partners.
Throughout
this,
we
worked
with
a
number
of
developers,
including
a
lot
of
housing
developers
and
then
closely
with,
like
the
downtown
alliance
and
other
advisory
groups,
to
see
what
kind
of
parking
was
actually
needed
and
they
really
were
a
valuable
asset
in
the
process
to
really
comb
through
those
recommendations
of
the
minimums
and
maximums.
H
Sometimes
they
were
the
exact
they
were
either
identical
to
the
minimums
or
they
were
based
on
a
percentage
of
the
minimum.
So
you
could
go
25
higher
or
something
like
that.
They're
now,
based
on
these
same
consultant,
recommendations,
neighborhood
goals,
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
you
know
more
on
best
practice
than
than
just
a
a
random
percentage.
H
It
should
also
be
noted
that
structured
parking
is
not
counted
against
our
maximums,
and
I
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
we
feel
we've
got
standards
in
place.
That
would
allow
for
more
flexibility,
with
structured
parking
being
able
to
accommodate
multiple
properties
or
being
able
to
kind
of
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
block
by
block
or
regional
parking
solutions.
Things
like
that,
and
we
have
standards
in
place
for
the
structures
to
be
designed
well
convertible
later,
so
they
could
be
repurposed
in
the
future
for
other
type
of
uses
and.
N
H
Course,
they're
located
behind
main
structures.
So
I
wanted
to
point
that
out.
I
mentioned
that
minimums
are
generally
lower
throughout
the
proposed
updates.
One
exception
to
that,
for
example,
is
when
we
look
at
the
neighborhood
center.
This
was
a
really
hot
topic.
You
look
at
the
neighborhood
center
context,
so
think,
like
9th
and
9th
area.
E
H
Businesses
essentially
had
to
have
parking
spill
out
all
over
into
the
neighborhoods,
so
by
raising
that
and
raising
actually
parking
for
restaurants
in
in
a
number
of
the
context,
we
found
that
that
was
one
area
we
were
under
parked,
and
hopefully
this
is
able
to.
You
know
we're
able
to
find
some
spaces
where
those
could
increase
cars
could
park
in
a
parking
lot
rather
than
spilling
entirely
into
our
neighborhoods.
H
So
those
are
just
a
few
of
the
items
I
wanted
to
point
out.
It
does
next
slide
another
one
of
our
kind
of
big
ticket
items
in
this
was
the
multi-family
parking
seemed
to
be.
This
is
one
of
the
topics
that
pretty
much
everyone
had
feedback
on,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
list
in
the
table
here.
What
we
are
proposing
and
so
of
course
that's
the
context
across
the
top,
and
then
these
are
the
minimums
listed
below
and
then
the
maximums
on
the
far
right.
H
H
But
I
think
key
points
are
that
in
the
d1,
the
d3
d4
gmu
ui
rmu,
the
sugar
house,
zoning
districts
rb
and
s
b-
we're
proposing
lower
minimums
across
the
board.
So
that
would
hopefully
be
an
aid
towards
objectives
like
more
affordable
housing
and
things
like
that
and
then
in
the
d2
and
tsat
zones
were
proposing
a
lower
parking
minimum
for
studio
apartments,
but
a
little
bit
higher
on
the
one
bedroom
and
above
and
a
little
bit
higher
minimums
for
the
fbun1
zone
and
one.
N
H
H
Again,
especially
where
we
have
some
opportunities
like
structured
parking,
doesn't
have
the
same
maximums.
Maybe
these
maximums
are
high
that
someone
could
come
in
and
do
that
as
surface
parking
now.
H
H
Land
is
expensive
and
that
generally
they
don't
want
to
devote
too
much
space
to
it
and
they're
going
to
be
very
their
lenders.
Their
partners,
financial
partners
are
very
aware
of
what's
happening
with
the
parking
and
they
find
those
numbers
and
they
do
not
want
to
go
above
what
they
actually
need.
So
that's
something
we'll
want
to
have
a
conversation
on
the
next
slide.
H
Also,
there's
a
few
recent
items
that
are
new
since
this
went
to
planning
commission
first
is:
we've
had
we've
had
the
text
amendment
from
helium
missionary
facility
to
the
congregate
care,
that's
largely
just
talking
about
largely
it's
a
text
change,
but
it
does
have
a
few
recommendations
for
parking
that
should
be
taken
into
consideration
and
then
we
do
have
pending
changes
to
our
special
exception
chapters,
and
there
are
a
few
items
that
are
addressed
there,
that
those
pending
changes
to
the
special
exception
process
and
language
are
written
with
the
anticipation
of
the
adoption
of
this
proposed
ordinance,
but,
and
they
speak
to
front
yard,
parking
regulations
and
vehicle
storage
without
hard
surfacing.
H
So
we
would
anticipate
probably
that
this
would
go
through
and
be
passed
and
then
the
special
exception
changes
when
they
come
through
your
office
would
further
modify
the
front
yard
parking
and
vehicle
storage
for
without
hard
surfacing.
H
The
next
item-
that's
recent-
is
our
transportation.
Division
has
been
working
with
fair
and
peers
with
a
parking
study
that
affects
the
central,
ninth
and
ninth
and
ninth
areas,
and
we
do
have
we.
It
looks
like
we
got
a
recommendation.
Just
this
morning
from
them,
but
they
hop
to
be
very
brief
on
that.
H
Their
their
analysis
is
that
in
the
central
ninth
area,
the
which
would
be
part
of
the
transit
context
that
the
the
parking
minimums
are
too
low
that
there's
not
currently
a
diverse
enough
mix
of
land
uses
that,
even
though
the
area
is
well
serviced
by
transit,
automobiles
are
still
needed
more
than
what
are
being
provided.
H
H
I
know
I've
kind
of
whipped
through
things,
but
those
are
those
are
really
the
the
main
topics
from
our
end
and
be
happy
to
address
any
questions
or
get
into
any
topics
further.
So
that's
the
end
of
my.
A
D
Yeah
thanks,
madam
chair,
I
have
a
few
questions.
You
know.
Generally,
I
like
the
direction
that
this
off
street
parking
ordinance
is
going.
I
think
it
it
is
a
better
fit
for
where
our
city
is
right
now
and
where
we're
wanting
to
go
in
the
future.
So
I
think
overall,
I
know
it's
been
a
huge
effort.
D
I
remember
many
times
hearing
this
when
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
over
a
year
ago-
and
I
know
it
wasn't
new
then
so
I
know
you've
been
working
on
it
for
a
really
long
time
and
I
want
to
respect
that
and
not
try
and
sort
of
upend
anything.
I
do
have
a
few
questions,
though
one
sort
of
the
broadest
question
I
think,
is
that
this
is
based
on
the
zone
type
or
the
actual
zone,
not
necessarily
the
area
or
context
to
transit.
I
know
that
that's
sort
of
in
the
different
context.
D
That's
understood
that,
like
more
transit,
oriented
areas
have
lower
parking
than
some
others,
but,
for
instance,
I'm
just
thinking
of
in
district
5
the
whole
almost
the
entire
ballpark
area
is,
I
believe,
in
the
general
context,
which
requires
the
highest
transportation
or
the
highest
parking
requirements,
because
it's
kind
of
general,
commercial
or
commercial
corridor,
which
is
also
applied
to
places
like,
I
think,
redwood
road.
D
However,
I
think
parking
requirement
wise
ballpark
has
so
much
more
in
terms
of
the
track
station
running
right
through
it
and
high
frequency
buses
than
other
parts
of
the
city
with
that
same
zone.
So
I'm
worried
that
there
are
some
places
where
lower
parkings
actually
make
more
sense,
but
this
is
requiring
it
to
be
higher
parking.
Maybe,
since
that's
kind
of
a
big
question,
can
we
address
that
before
I
keep
going.
O
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
jump
in
this
is
this
is
nick
part
of
the
the
thought
process
on
that
is
that
those
those
areas
would
be
going
through
zoning
changes,
and
so,
instead
of
trying
to
make
it
fit
now
through
a
different
approach,
we
felt
it
was
probably
easier
to
do
it
by
the
district
and
then
as
those
areas
change
as
the
zoning
changes,
particularly
around
the
ballpark,
which
hopefully
we
start
this
year,
but
that
that
would
be
our
avenue
to
address
the
parking
issues.
O
The
code
does
give
them
a
reduction
any
uses
within
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
or
but
I
think,
a
quarter
mile
of
that
transit
station-
a
reduction
off
the
top,
so
that
that
does
help
to
some
degree
with
with
right
sizing
those
zoning
requirements.
D
O
Yeah,
that's
that's
correct,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
want
we
one
of
the
questions
that
I
think
we
need
to
that
we
want
to
get
some
direction
from
the
council
on
are
is
the
extent
of
how
we
lack
a
better
term
pile
on
those
those
reductions.
O
That's
that's
the
that's
the
goal,
but
but
you
have
to
have
the
systems
in
place
to
be
able
to
serve
those
uses
and
and
those
people
who
live
there,
and
so
the
the
reductions
were
were
starting
to
be
cumbersome
in
how
we
would
how
they
were
and
and
unlimited
basically.
D
That
that's
helpful,
so
I
guess
the
way
I
should
understand
it
is
that
this
doesn't
really
address
areas
like
the
ballpark
or
300
west
in
this
ordinance,
but
a
future
ordinance
that
would
actually
change
the
zoning
in
those
areas.
Combined
with
this
would
try
and
get
that
to
a
better
equilibrium
point
or
a
better
balancing
point
is
that
I'll.
H
Actually
write
that
a
little
bit
as
well
so,
but
also
we
did
examine
the
uses
themselves
and
we
and
that's
what
I've
seen
overall,
we
feel
we've
helped
address
a
lot
of
those
uses
a
little
bit
better
or
we've
built
in
some
other
provisions
and
kind
of
things
are
generally
a
little
bit
lower,
but
nick's
right.
We,
we
looked
at
doing
this
by
a
total
map
rather
than
zoning
designation,
and
it
just
didn't,
treat
proper
properties
fairly
and
consistently.
H
And
where
do
you
draw
those
borders?
And
there
were
some
different?
You
know
some
some
real
challenges
and
we
felt
that
this
does
encourage
up
zoning
there's
incentive
to
do
so
and
in
making
the
right
zone
for
the
for
the
area
and
so
yeah.
There
are
definitely
areas
we
see
targeting
and
the
nice
thing
is,
as
properties
are
rezoned,
they
automatically
get
kicked
into
the
new
context
and
you
know
in
the
parking
regulations
so
so.
E
D
H
D
Madam
chair,
can
I
ask
a
couple
more
questions,
or
do
you
want
to
jump
to?
Okay
thanks?
So
the
next
two
questions
are
kind
of
related
and
they're,
but
one
has
to
do
with
parking
reductions
and
the
other
has
to
do
with
use
the
use
parking
table
based
on
use.
D
I've
just
noticed-
and
this
is
kind
of
from
my
professional
practice-
that
I've
worked
on
projects
where
they're
small
infill
projects
that
currently
work
under
the
new
parking
ordinance,
but
under
the
proposed
sorry
currently
work
under
the
current
parking
ordinance,
but
under
the
proposed
ordinance
would
become
impossible.
Those
are
typically
small,
small
infill
projects
and
office
projects,
and
I
think
that's
because
the
requirement
for
office
uses
goes
up
under
this.
D
I
think
the
ground
floor
office
parking
requirement
stays
the
same,
but
in
the
new
parking
ordinance
like
like
second
and
third
levels,
don't
have
a
reduced
parking
requirement
like
they
do
in
the
current
ordinance
and
then
also
the
the
exception
for
legal
on-street.
Parking
goes
away
under
this
new
ordinance.
If
I
understand
that
correctly,
which
doesn't
make
a
huge
difference
for
big
projects
but
for
small
projects
where
your
you
know
like
three
parking
stalls
makes
a
big
difference,
then
I
found
that
those
small
infield
projects
are
no
longer
possible.
D
So
those
are
two
more
specific
concerns.
I
think
with
this,
can
you
I
mean
I
guess
the
question
yeah
with
the
office
uses
and
then
that
off
street
part
on
street
parking
exception.
H
H
So,
even
though
they
were
just
being
granted
a
reduction
or
you
know
they
were
being
able
to
count
those
spaces
towards
their
parking
when
the
city
came
through
and
wanted
to
do
anything
different.
If
we
found
that
oh
well,
it
made
sense
to
put
bike
share
there
or
put
in
a
bus,
stop
or
use
that
right
away
in
any
other
manner.
H
H
That
was
a
major
battle
and
we
were
creating
non-conformities
or
we're
getting
just
people
up
in
arms.
Saying
you're,
taking
away
my
parking
well,
it
was
never
your
parking,
it
was
the
cities
it's
right
away.
It
should
be
used
for
the
common
good
of
all,
and
so
we
felt
that
there
really.
You
know,
of
course,
transportations
can
still
approve
that
and
allow
people
to
park
there,
but
it
wouldn't
be
part
of
the
reductions
and
things
like
that
and
that's
since
we
went
through
pretty
considerably
yeah
and
I.
D
But
if
it's
a
you
know
.15
acres
or
something
and
they're
trying
to
do
a
little
shop
there,
then
their
parking
requirement
will
completely
make
it
impossible
and
you
know,
could
only
be
a
house
for
instance,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
I
I
guess
some
other
alternate.
Maybe
there
maybe
it's
in
there
and
I
don't
understand
it.
H
We
make
revisions
to
our
change
of
use
so
when
a
building
goes
through
a
change
of
use,
an
existing
building
when
it
goes
for
a
change
of
use
when
it
is
triggered
in
the
new
parking,
so
it
now
is,
you
know
they
have
their
parking
demand
would
go
up
by
10
spaces.
H
So,
generally
speaking,
that's
not
for
those
small
little
businesses.
So
if
they
just
only
needed
six
or
seven
stalls,
you
know
they're
able
to
just
go
in
and
they
don't
have
to
increase
the
parking
or
anyways
it's
it's
10
spaces,
or
more
than
25
percent
of
the
parking
systals
that
exist
on
site
and
then
also
for
buildings
for
changes
in
use
and
buildings
built
prior
to
1944.
H
E
H
Yeah,
so
are
you
you're
yeah,
that's
going
in
a
reuse
or
something
like
that,
but
if
you're
talking
new
construction
in
an
area,
then
again
we
it's
more
based
on
the
what
we
feel
are
hopefully
more
right:
size,
parking
requirements
and
appropriate
reductions,
but
I'm
still
pulling
up
office
uses
so
office
depending
on
the
context,
transit
context,
we're
proposing
no
minimum
urban
center,
one
per
one
thousand
neighborhood
center
tuber,
one
thousand
and
in
the
general
context,
three.
H
H
A
lot
of
those
references
are
going
to
take
place
in
in
the
in
you
know,
transit
and
urban
center
context,
because
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
you
know
most
desirable
land
is
for
that
type
of
thing,
but
those
infill
projects.
But
let's.
I
D
I
think
under
the
new
ordinance
it
becomes
too
high.
There's
two
specific
sort
of
potential
projects
that
I
worked
on.
One
was
in
ninth
and
ninth
and
one
was
in
ballpark,
and
this
was
not
as
a
council
member.
This
was
as
a
as
an
architect,
the
ninth
and
ninth
one,
so
the
ballpark
one
maybe
would
be
adjusted
once
we
do
that
whole
area-wide
master
plan
so
that
that
concern
might
go
away.
But
the
one
in
ninth
and
ninth
was
a
small
retail
and
with
some
residences
above
it,
and
that
one
was
only
possible.
D
D
It
could
be
argued
that
that's,
I
don't
think
it
is
so
I'm
concerned
that
some
of
those
small
infield
projects
just
can't
happen
under
the
new
ordinance
and
maybe
that
the
office
parking
thing
also
goes
away
when
we
rezone
some
of
those
areas.
So
that
might
not
be
an.
D
I
got
a
lot
of
questions,
but
I'll
keep
it
to
one
tiny
thing.
I
I
would
hope
that
there
would
be
a
way
we
could.
If
we
do
were,
were
to
adopt
this
without
any
changes
that
we
could
give
like
a
buffer
period
of
six
months
or
something
so
people
know
people
that
are
currently
working
on
a
project
right
now.
If
it
changes
sort
of
design,
they
aren't,
they
don't
have
to
start
from
scratch.
D
So
maybe
they're
six
months,
maybe
it's
a
year
where
they
can
choose
either
the
old
or
the
new
parking
ordinance
before
we
completely
get
rid
of
the
old
one.
Just
so
that
people
have
that
that
window
yeah,
but
I'd
like
that.
A
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
It
was
brought
up
in
our
packet
as
one
of
the
policy
questions
of
having
an
effective
date,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
can
certainly
we
can
certainly
implement.
A
I
mean
we
have
that
that
ability
and
probably
something
that
we
would
want
to
consider.
A
I
this
the
problem
here
we
have
james,
james's
internet,
just
went
out
and
anna's
internet
just
went
out,
and
I
need
to
take
a
phone
call.
We
would
still
have
a
quorum
if
somebody
would
volunteer
to
chair
this.
The
rest
of
this
discussion
for
right
now
on
his
back
chris.
Do
you
mind.
P
E
P
L
So
I
may
be
a
little
slow
on
the
on
the
the
parking
side
here
and
I
haven't.
I
want,
maybe
I'm
dovetailing
into
darren's
questions,
councilman
romano's
questions
about
the
the
parking
and
also
the
the
amendments
that
we're
looking
at
for
rmf,
30
and
rms
35
and
the
affordable
housing
overlay.
L
O
O
Okay,
I'll
do
my
best
and
if,
if,
if
I'm
confusing,
please
stop
me
and
and
help
me
out
so
the
the
short
answer
is
yes,
we
have
considered
as
many
of
the
pending
zoning
changes
as
we
possibly
could
have
with
this
ordinance.
So,
for
example,
I
believe
the
rmf
zones
are
remaining
in
the
general
context
and
so
for
the
residential
uses,
the
minimum
in
those
districts.
O
If,
if
it
is
changing,
it's
changing
by,
I
think
at
most
a
half
a
stall
per
unit,
but
I
don't
think
that
they're
changing
even
that
much
in
that
zone
and
eric
had
that
table
in
the
presentation
that
showed
that
what
the
affordable
housing
overlay
is
likely
to
do
would
be
to
so
this.
The
parking
ordinance
has
a
reduction
for
affordable
housing
up
to
a
certain
percentage.
If
a
certain
number
of
units
are
applied,
the
overlay
is
likely
going
to
change
that.
L
Thank
you
and
one
more
question
total
parking
spots
are,
you
know
people
are
all
concerned
about,
oh
my
god,
you're
taking
away
parking.
O
I
would
anticipate
that
as
properties
redevelop,
particularly
in
the
transit
context,
that
we
will
see
less
parking
than
what
would
be
built
without
this
code.
Without
this
proposal.
L
O
I
think
I
don't
think
there'll
be
much
change.
I
think
council
member
mono
identified,
you
know
one
of
those
potential
thing
issues
with
the
you
know
the
smaller
scale
infill
and
we're
happy
to
try
to
find
some
some
resolution
to
that.
But
I
I
wouldn't
anticipate
much
change
in
those
in
those
two
contexts.
H
Where
you
know
say
they
build
a
housing
development
that
you
know
the
residents
have
the
option
to
buy
into
a
certain
amount
of
time
on
a
vehicle,
or
you
know
some
of
those
or
there's
a
really
good
carpool
program,
or
something
or
other
for
business.
But
it's
not
going
to
be
just
across
the
board
reductions
in
those
contacts.
I
I
Mr
current
chair,
hey
madam
chair
question
about
the
affordable
housing
question.
You
had
my
council's
sort
of
take
on
how
much
reduction
affordability
should
be.
Is
that
what
you
were
looking
for.
I
I
thought
not
of
the
headphone.
Yes,
I
think
I'm
working
under
the
assumption
number
one
that
less
parking
means
lower
overall
cost
to
develop
and
therefore
more
units
per
acre.
Is
that
accurate.
O
I
don't
know
that
it
necessarily
results
in
more
units
per
acre.
It
results
in
lower
construction
costs
per
unit.
O
It
could,
depending
on
you
know,
for
example,
if
a
project
was
was
going
to
be
mostly
surface
parked,
then
they
could.
They
could
potentially
have
more
density.
If
they're
going
into
a
structure,
the
parking
reduction
doesn't
necessarily
change
their
at
least
from
what
I've.
What
I've
learned
and
heard
from
some
developers
is
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
change
their
pro
forma
unless
they're
already
going
in
with
a
very
reduced
amount
of
parking,
and
so
we
we
have
seen
some
and
and
a
lot
of
that's
going
to
be
tied
to
their
their
funding
sources.
O
So
there's
some
lending
sources
that
are
a
little
bit
more
conservative
in
terms
of
what
they're
willing
to
fund
parking
wise,
but
because
the
return
on
investment
and
real
estate
is
so
high
right.
Now
that
there's
a
there's,
a
there's
and
interest
rates
and
other
investments
are
so
low
that
there's
there's
a
larger
percentage
of
an
or
a
higher
dollar
amount
of
investment
going
into
real
estate
and
the
people
are
willing
to
take
more
risk
than
they
were
10
years
ago.
O
That's
why
we're
starting
to
see
in
like
central
night
some
projects
built
with
no
parking,
which
is
kind
of
mind-blowing,
for
a
city
like
salt
lake
and
with
with
the,
even
though
that
has
good
transit
access.
It
doesn't
fully
have
those
services
right
there,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
oddity
but
but
yeah.
I
think
if
there
were
surface
parking
lots,
it
would
be
a
different
approach
to
more
density
than
if
it's
structured.
I
I
If
the
market
wasn't
so
hot,
they
might
be
more
closely
tied,
but
right
now
you
can
go
for
this
and
charge
sort
of
more
kind
of
thing,
so
as
a
tool
of
getting
more
housing
in
more
affordable
sort
of
helm
in
general,
I
don't
know
how
effective
this
is
right
now,
because
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
surface
parking,
are
we
along
transit
lines
or
downtown?
This
is
not
mass
footage
right.
O
We're
seeing
some
behind
buildings,
you
know,
there's
a
project
that
was
just
approved.
I
think
in
december,
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood
that
actually
used
surface
parking
lot,
a
surface
parking
with
a
parking
reduction.
So
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
places
where
it
is
beneficial
is
on
the
end.
User
side
is
if
they,
if
a,
if
a
tenant,
has
the
option
not
to
choose
a
a
place
that
they
don't
have
to
pay
for
parking,
then
that's
that
could
be
a
significant
impact
on
their
living
expenses.
O
So
that's
that's
where
it's
primarily
beneficial
this
ordinance,
you
know
some
ordinances
will
will
do
what's
called
unbundling.
The
parking
which
requires
parking
to
be
a
separate
type
of
expense
that
the
property
owner
would
have
to
manage,
and
we
this
ordinance
doesn't
deal
with
unbundling
of
of
parking,
mainly
because
of
the
resource
it
would.
It
would
be
required
to
monitor
over
time,
but
that's
yeah.
I
Okay,
I
think
for
using
this
as
an
incentive
to
get
more
people
out
of
cars.
I
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
best
incentive,
but
setting
that
aside,
if
we're
using
this
to
bring
down
the
price
for
an
affordable
housing
unit,
which
I
think
we
are
in
this
context
right
for
a
reduction,
it
would
make
some
sense,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
tier
it
based
on
the
level
of
affordability
very
much.
I
So
I
think
I
would
recommend,
for
the,
for
the
reduction
for
affordability
be
tied
very
closely
into
the
emi
level.
The
other
question
for
me
is:
we've
taken
a
policy
position
from
the
rda
side
to
say
we
want
mixed
income
across
the
board.
We
don't
want
very
many
stand-alone
all
affordable
projects.
I
Now,
there's
going
to
be
some
there's
no
question
there,
but
if
that's
our
policy
across
the
board,
how
do
you
apply
this
to
tens
of
buildings
across
the
city,
where
I
would
like
to
say
hundreds,
but
not
too
crazy?
Where
there's
going
to
be
a
mix
of
number
of
incomes?
It
gets
a
little
tricky
in
there
where,
as
long
as
I
put
in
something
that's
below
100
ami
it'll
get
a
big
reduction
which
doesn't
seem
right
to
me,
but
maybe
I'm
off
on
that.
A
Thank
you
andrew.
We
have
a
question
from
anna
in
the
chat.
As
I
mentioned,
her
internet
is
kind
of
going
a
little
berserk.
So
if
eric
or
nick
would
take
a
look
at
that
and
address
that
question
for
me,
yeah.
O
So
the
question
is
about
the
parking
study,
that's
ongoing
in
the
central,
ninth
and
ninth
and
ninth,
and
what
that
parking
study
is
doing.
It's
looking
at
on-street
parking
and
use
versus
availability
and-
and
things
like
that
and
like
eric
mentioned
in
his
presentation,
we
just
this
morning
received
kind
of
a
preliminary
view
of
that
report
and
basically,
what
it's
finding
is
that,
unlike
most
in
central
ninth,
unlike
the
ninth
and
ninth
area,
the
parking,
the
on-street
parking
demand
is
being
created
by
residential
uses
versus
commercial
uses.
O
And
so
it's
it's
having
this
kind
of
weird
impact
in
that
the
parking
is
not
available
to
the
residents
when
they're
home
and
we're
not
seeing
a
turnover
during
the
day,
because
right
now
so
many
people
are
are
not
using
their
cars.
And
so
it's
this.
It's
it's
kind
of
this
ironic
thing.
O
But
what
it's
suggesting
is
that
the
perception
that
people
have
of
on-street
parking
is
that
on-street
parking
is
not
available
when
about
70
of
it
is
full
and
so
they're
suggesting
that
central,
ninth,
at
least
for
the
moment,
is
at
that
point,
and
if,
if
there
continues
to
be
development
with
that's
built
with
no
parking,
it's
gonna
make
that
situation
worse,
which
is,
is
fairly
obvious.
O
It
puts
us
in
this
weird
situation
where
we
have
a
a
track
station
that
has
access
to
every
single
line
in
the
system
that
has
high
frequency
coming
through
it
and
headways,
where
that,
where
you'd
think
that
a
no
parking
approach
would
be
would
be
the
best
practice,
but
in
reality
it's
not
necessarily
turning
out
that
way.
Right
now,
and
so
it's
it.
What
they're
suggesting
that
it
might
be
worth
considering
requiring
some
parking
for
residential
uses
versus
right
now,
where
the
residential
uses
in
that
fbn2
zone
are
not
required
to
have
any
parking.
E
Can
you
guys
hear
me
yes,
yes,
we
can
oh
great
so
nick,
like
then
with
this
with
this
study.
What
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
like
like
a
solution
to
this
and
then
to
implement
it,
and
should
we
wait
until
we
do
fb2
somewhere
else.
O
Well,
we're
already
seeing
the
fbin2
pop
up
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
the
the
intent
of
the
study,
as
I
understand
it,
so
it's
being
led
by
transportation,
is
that
it
was
an
on-street
parking
management
tool
to
figure
out
these
two
neighborhoods
and
what's
the
best
way
to
manage
the
on-street
parking
and
and
what
what
kind
of
measures
can
the
city
can
use
to
do
that?
O
Well,
the
the
study
is
recommending
that
they're,
I
can't
remember
the
number,
but
at
least
some
parking
be
be
required
for
residential
uses
in
the
fbn
2,
which
would
require
it
to
be
moved
to
a
different
context,
and
so
that's
where
it
gets
a
little
bit
challenging
with
this
approach
and
something
that
we
we
haven't
seen
the
actual
the
end
results.
Yet
it's
just
a
preliminary
thing,
so
so
we're
not
quite
sure
the
best
avenue
to
take
and
how
to
address
it.
H
I
can
turn
in
there
it's
considering
a
0.75
spaces
per
unit
ratio.
That's
what
it
is.
The
initial
findings
are
and
they've
says
that
once
land
uses
when
the
once
there's
a
more
diverse
land
use
an
adoption
through
there,
then
maybe
maybe
to
be
revised
again
but
yeah
and
and
that's
just
enough-
reverse
lane
uses.
O
And
the
tricky
part
about
that
is
that
I
don't
think
that
we
have
point
seven
five,
as
a
ratio
in
any
of
the
contexts
and
so
and
they're
at
a
track
station.
So
they'd
get
that
reduction
within
being
in
a
within
a
quarter
mile
for
at
least
in
almost
the
entirety
of
the
f
of
the
central
ninth
neighborhood,
if
not
all
of
it,
and
so
we'll
have
to
look
at
both
at
those
how
all
of
those
things
come
into
play
and
and
settle
on
on
a
different
context.
P
Thank
you
so
nick
eric,
I
appreciate
all
of
the
information
you've
given
so
far
and
the
work
that's
gone
into
this,
but
I
have
to
raise
this
concern
on
behalf
of
some
of
my
residents
about.
P
The
I
understand
that
part
of
the
reason
why
we
don't
have
a
more
walkable
city
is
because
we
didn't
maybe
put
into
place
all
of
the
things
that
we
should
have
to
incentivize
people
to
get
out
of
their
cars
a
long
time
ago.
But
what
do
we?
What
are
we?
P
What
do
residents
do
while
we're
in
this?
You
know
pretty
long
transition
phase,
where
it's
kind
of
like
you
still
where
most
residents
in
salt
lake
still
need
a
car
and
there's
there's
frustration
around
the
fact
that
I
think
from
some
residents
in
certain
areas
that
feel
like
the
city's
pushing
too
hard
to
incentivize.
P
Building
without
having
at
least
one
stall
per
unit
and
that
that's
pushing
these
cars
into
neighborhoods,
especially
like
historic
neighborhoods
that
are
already
kind
of
tight
on
space.
P
O
Yeah
so
so
I
I
think,
there's
no
question:
there's
going
to
be
growing
pains
of
cities,
transition
and
there's,
but
there's
there's
also
a
fairly
harsh
reality
that
if
we
want
to
plan,
if
we
want
to
be
a
city
of
people
where
we
are
improving
our
air
quality
and
our
environmental
impact,
car
use
has
to
be
reduced.
There's
no
there's
not
any
other
way
around
it.
O
But
I
think
what
this
proposal
does
is
that,
unlike
our
current
ordinance,
where
you
can
essentially
in
almost
every
part
of
the
city,
reduce
your
parking
requirement
down
to
down
to
zero
or
close
to
zero,
this
starts
to
change
that
dynamic
a
little
bit.
One
of
the
things
that
eric
mentioned
is
that
you
know
before
our
ma.
Our
maximum
parking
was
actually
much
lower
than
cities
that
are
very
that
are
much
more
transit
rich
than
we
are.
You
know,
for
example,
our
our
maximum
parking
for
restaurants
was
city-wide.
O
I
think
it
mounted
at
2.25
stalls
per
thousand
square
feet.
That
was,
I
think,
like
80
percent
lower
than
downtown
portland,
so
that
that
tells
you
that
you
know
back
in
2008
or
whatever.
When
that
regulation
went
into
effect,
we
took
a
giant
leap
as
a
city
that
we
weren't
ready
for,
and
so
this
this,
I
think,
is,
is
a
more
moderate
approach,
because
it
does
start
to
increase
some
of
those
those
maximums
for
other
things.
O
I
think
that
there's
other
pieces
that
need
to
happen,
particularly
on
street
parking
management,
to
make
this
work
better
so
that
in
those
neighborhoods
like
guadalupe,
where
you
have
you
know
more
low
density,
neighborhoods
tightly
intertwined
with
you
know
very
transit,
rich
areas
where
the
where
we
can
start
reducing
some
of
those
those
impacts
to
those
neighborhoods
so
that
they
don't
they
don't
have
that.
O
But
you
know
that
that's
a
another
step
that
needs
to
happen,
and
I
know
that
it's
probably
something
that
our
transportation
division
would
would
also
recognize
and
that's
something
that's
in
their
their
shop.
P
H
H
Those
will
probably
change
the
first
time
we
examined
and
fine-tuned
throughout
it,
but
we
really
feel
that
this
framework
of
context
puts
us
in
a
much
better
position
rather
than
this
one-size-fits-all
we're.
Now
you
know
looking
at
the
characteristics
of
our
neighborhoods,
looking
at
the
characteristics
of
our
you
know
the
different
portions
of
the
city
and
saying:
okay,
they
don't
all
have
the
same
needs
they're,
different
and
in
the
future.
H
P
Okay
and
then
my
follow-up
question
was
just
you
know:
do
you
think
that
we
need
to
re-examine
the
parking
requirements
for
tsas
in
general
like
or
do
you
think
that
that
this
maybe
makes
it
so
that
we
don't
need
to
do
that.
O
Well,
I
I
would
be
very
hesitant
to
start
requiring
parking,
at
least
in
the
core
areas
of
our
transit
stations.
Those
are
the
areas
where,
where
it's
the
highest
likelihood
of
people
to
use
the
transit,
this
proposal
does
well
in
the
in
the
transition.
The
transit,
the
tsa
transition
areas
do
have
some
parking
requirement,
and
this
this
maintains
that,
and
so
I
I
would
be
hesitant.
I
think
the
other
piece
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
in
the
tsa
zone
we
still
haven't
had
a
project
that
didn't
build
parking
they're.
O
You
know,
with
the
exception,
the
likely
location
of
that
is
on
is
in
micro,
housing,
and
it's
because
it
has
a
significant
impact
on
the
cost
to
build
that
and
there's
there's
a
fairly
small
margin
there
if
parking
is,
is
required,
and
so
that
that
would
be.
That
would
be
the
area
where
it
would
be
impactful,
but
I
I
couldn't
recommend
that
we
add
start
requiring
parking
in
the
tsa
zone
more
than
what
we
have.
Okay.
P
Sorry
that
leave
me
one
more
question.
Can
I
can
I
ask
one
more
follow-up,
madam
chair,
so
nick,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you
know
there
are
different.
There
are
residents
that
I
have.
That
would
say
we're
not
going
far
enough
and
then
there
are
residents
that
I
have
that
are
saying.
We've
gone
too
far,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I'm
trying
to
ask
questions
to
understand
better,
understand
both
sides
of
that
and
and
come
up
with
a
determination
about.
P
You
know
where
I
think
we
are
with
the
kozo
house,
and
that
being
you
know
it's
it's
it
just
off
of
north
temple,
which
is
you
know,
a
great
node
for
tsa,
because
you're
you're
right
by
front
runner,
you're
right
by
the
north
temple
line,
but
it
kozo
house
isn't
actually
on
north
temple,
it's
like
tucked
in
and
it's
it's
getting
toward
the
northwest
quadrant
or
the
northwest
historic
district.
I
mean
does
this
if
this
ordinance
was
in
place
when
that
was
built,
would
this
have
changed
anything.
O
So
possibly
one
of
the
one
of
the
reason
issues
with
with
kozo
is
that
they
were
able
to
stack
their
reductions
so
they're.
They
were
in
a
trans,
tsa
transition
zone,
and
so
they
were
able
to
stack
the
reductions
that
the
code
allowed
and
they're
a
perfect
example
of
what
happens
when
you
allow
those
reductions
to
go
further
than
than
that,
but
there's
also
the
reality
that
it
is
within.
I
think
it's
within
a
600-foot
walking
distance
of
a
transit
platform.
O
So
if
there's
anywhere
in
the
city,
where,
where
housing,
where
someone
could
live
without
needing
a
car,
it's
going
to
be
in
a
situation
like
that
and
it's
one
of
those
really
difficult
spots
where
we,
where
we
have
these
well-established
neighborhoods
next
to
a
significant
transit
investment
that
not
just
the
city
made,
but
the
region
and
the
state
made.
So
it's
it's
hard.
You
know.
I
O
I
It's
about
utilizing
the
track
station
as
a
jumping-off
point
and
when
you're
outside
of
downtown
courts,
it's
unmetered
parking
for
the
most
part.
So
if
I
look
at
ninth
going
south,
the
13th
has
got
his
own
parking
lot.
But
if
we
look
at
north
temple,
where
a
lot
of
micro
users
are
coming
online
and
there's
no
major
parking,
this
could
be
an
issue
there
if
we
don't
have
a
better
sense
of
the
on-screen
market
together.
A
D
Sorry,
thanks
in
regard
to
the
micro
housing
discussion
that
we
were
having,
I
think,
nick.
What
you
said
makes
sense
that
right
now,
the
only
parking
only
projects
that
would
have
be
built
with
no
parking
would
probably
be
those
micro
housing
projects,
but
where
we
see
in
central
9th
that
a
lot
of
those
micro
housing
projects
are
being
built
in
in
close
con
proximity
to
one
another.
It
does
create
the
parking
concern
and
I
don't.
D
I
guess
I
would
either
want
to
figure
out
how
to
resolve
that
within
this
ordinance
or
figure
out
a
different
way
to
limit
the
number
of
like
the
proximity
of
one
micro
housing
unit
to
the
other,
or
we
just
have
to
be
really
honest
with
the
neighborhood
that
this
is
gonna
happen
and
that's
the
direction
we're
going
and
decide
if
that's
the
policy
as
a
city,
but
it
does
seem,
like
I'm
hearing
quite
a
bit
from
central
knight
that
their
parking
situation
doesn't
isn't
working
anymore.
D
E
A
E
M
Just
listening
to
the
conversation,
there
are
about
a
minimum
of
half
a
dozen
issues
that
seem
to
need
either
council
direction
or
comment
from
from
parking
or
from
from
planning
and
from
transportation.
M
So
and
included
in
that
is,
is
the
conversation
that
councilmember
johnson
just
spoke
about
about
how
it
dovetails
with,
with
with
the
on-street
parking
study,
there's
the
recommendation
of
and
peers.
You
know
the
question
that
the
planning
presented
that
given
the
fair
and
pierce
study
is
is:
is
there
adequate
off
street
parking
in
some
areas
and
what
are
the
maximum
requirements?
M
What
are
the
appropriate
maximum
requirements
for
multi-family
parking
are
affordable
housing
reductions
adequate?
How?
How
does
one?
How-
and
this
is
something
that
planning
requested
from
the
city
council
is
direction
on
how
how
would
the
the
allowed
parking
reductions
be
applied
or
packaged
or
stacked
to
have
you
know
to
avoid
having
someone
coming
up
with
zero
parking
requirements
and
then
they're
the
two
other
two
other
issues
in
the
in
the
transmittal.
M
So
how
does
the
council
want
to
proceed
with
with
in
in
responding
to
all
those
questions.
A
A
E
A
Okay
thanks,
everyone
appreciate
it.
We
are
going
to
jump
back
to
item
number
three
kate
bradshaw.
Our
lead
lobbyist
is
here
to
give
us
a
legislative
update.
Q
Q
I
thought
I
would
cover
a
couple
of
the
the
bills
that
are
most
on
our
radar
from
a
lobbying
team
perspective,
but
if
you
have
other
questions
about
bills
on
the
tracking
list,
please
feel
free
to
interject
with
any
questions
and
I'll
just
dive
right
in
unless
somebody
stops
me
so
the
the
first
update
I
wanted
to
give
is
on
billboards.
Q
Q
As
I
reported
last
week,
we've
been
in
negotiations.
The
league
has
been
in
negotiations
with
senator
sandal
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks
on
key
components
of
this.
It
looked
like,
and
you
probably
received
actionable
at
the
end
of
last
week.
The
negotiation
pass,
but
luckily,
with
the
long
holiday
weekend
provided
plenty
of
good
working
hours
and
it
looks
like
negotiations-
are
back
on
track
and
progressing
so
stay
tuned
on
this
one.
We
we
hope
that
we
may
be
able
to
report
something
shortly.
Q
That'll
that'll
make
sense
for
for
both
parties,
both
the
municipalities
and
the
those
that
are
pro
billboard.
There's
been
a
lot
of
negotiations
that
have
gone
into
this
and,
of
course,
city
attorney.
Katie
lewis
has
been
doing
a
great
job,
making
sure
that
some
of
the
unique
issues
for
salt
lake
city
are
well
represented
and
brought
to
the
attention
of
of
all
cities.
I
know
she
loves
it
when
I
mention
her
name
because
then
she
turns
on
her
camera.
Q
Q
The
the
bill
there
hb
347
was
was
released
last
week
and
it
was
not
what
was
expected
by
by
the
work
group
in
terms
of
the
gardner
plan
that
had
been
worked
on
and
proposed
over
this
over
the
the
interim
good
news
is,
we
are
expecting,
and
I
believe
we
have
and
have
sent
it
to
the
city
staff
to
review
a
new
second
substitute.
The
sponsor
of
that
bill
quickly
realized
it
had
not
included
all
of
the
discussions
that
were
important
to
the
municipal
stakeholders
from
that
work.
Q
That
was
done
over
the
last
year
to
to
incorporate
all
of
those
things.
So
now
we
believe
that
this
new
second
sub
will
include
the
coordination
of
the
local
homelessness
coordinating
committee,
of
which
mayor
mendenhall
serves
on
that
committee,
the
state
and
the
philanthropic
groups,
so
that
that
gardner
framework
is
is
fully
implemented
in
the
second
substitute
is
what
we're
hoping
as
it
is
reviewed
right
now.
Q
The
next
bill
is
hp
or
sorry
sb
138.
This
is
one
that
councilman
fowler
in
particular.
I
know
has
some
interest
in
this
is
what
we
affectionately
have
been
calling
the
riot
bill,
and
we
also
made
some
really
great
lobbying
progress
on
this
bill.
Q
At
the
end
of
last
week
and
over
the
long
holiday
weekend,
chief
brown
was
able
to
play
an
excellent
role
in
helping
us
address
some
of
the
questions
that
two
different
republican
senators
had
about
incidents
over
the
summer
and
how
they
related
to
this
bill
and
based
on
the
conversations
that
the
chief
is
able
to
have
it,
looks
like
we
have
won
their
support
to
our
side
and
the
the
momentum
on
this
bill
has
definitely
shifted
and
it
now
looks
like
we
may
be
able
to
change
it
to
an
effort
to
instead
work
on
implementing
best
practices
in
terms
of
the
public
order
unit
and
the
mobile
field
force.
Q
And
so
the
city
attorney's
offices,
as
well
as
the
police
department,
is
new
to
noodling
on
what
we
could
possibly
suggest
to
the
sponsor.
Instead,
as
you
know,
what
the
learned
experience
of
the
last
year
could
be
in
terms
of
turning
this
bill
into
something
that's
just
a
little
bit
more
positive
and
helpful,
rather
than
something
that
was
kind
of
aggressively
focused
on
the
incidents
from
from
last
summer.
Q
From
the
perspective
of
people
outside
and
legislators,
from
rural
districts
in
the
state,
finally,
building
code
hb
98-
there
has
been
these
these
issues,
I'm
bringing
to
you.
These
are
some
of
those
that
have
been
negotiated
from
from
kind
of
the
opening
days
of
the
session
that
were,
you
know,
significant
friction
points
between
cities
in
general
and
different
parties
and
the
building
code
bill
in
hb.
98
is
one
of
those.
M
Q
Parties
have
been
moving
closer
to
agree
in
terms
of
what
might
be
acceptable
in
in
this
particular
instance.
In
particular.
Q
Salt
lake
city
is,
is
very
interested,
of
course,
in
protecting
historic
districts
and
councilman
fowler,
I
know,
has
been
instrumental
in
helping
us
work
with
the
sponsor
representative
paul
ray
to
get
his
support
for
going
just
a
little
bit
further
than
the
negotiations
had
had
us
at
over
the
weekend
on
those
historic
districts,
so
that
the
the
compromises
we're
working
on
won't
have
as
detrimental
an
impact
in
terms
of
of
the
inspection
process
and
the
different
requirements
that
the
cities
can
require
for
those
historic
districts.
Q
The
other
update
and
again,
this
kind
of
alludes
back
to
the
question
on
funding
for
homeless
mitigation
funding
is
the
legislative
process
up
here
at
the
capitol
in
the
seven
weeks
of
the
session
is
kind
of
geared
in
different
in
different
levels
that
we
spend
the
first
two
weeks
of
the
session
working
on
base
budget
appropriations.
The
middle
part
of
the
session
is
often
very
issue
focused
and
then,
towards
the
end
of
the
session.
Q
The
report
is,
you
know
that
utah
has
has
been
experiencing
revenue
growth
and
that
the
impacts
of
the
pandemic
haven't
been
felt
as
strongly
as
we're
originally
worried.
It
looks
like
most
of
the
items
that
were
cut
during
the
special
sessions
in
the
summer
are
going
to
be
restored,
and
then
you
know
the
compromise
that
was
struck
between
public
education
on
the
legislature
will
also
be
upheld,
so
public
education
will
be
seeing
a
significant
wpu
increase,
as
well
as
bonuses
for
for
teachers.
Q
I
know
that
one
is
a
little
bit
touchy
in
terms
of
which
teachers
were
in
classroom
and
which
teachers
were
remote,
but
they're.
Looking
like
they're
going
to
be
able
to
fully
fund
that
commitment
and
then
there'll
be
still
some
funds,
both
ongoing
and
one
time
that
will
be
available
for
other
priorities.
Q
Based
on
what
we're
hearing
those
revenue
projections
are
going
to
be,
which
is
that
they'll
meet
prior
expectations
and
maybe
go
up
just
a
little
bit
more,
which
means
that
some
of
those
appropriations
asks
that
are
in
place
for
additional
support
with
with
homelessness
issues,
have
a
decent
chance,
given
what
we
expect
in
those
revenue
estimates.
I
know
I've
run
through
those
issues
fairly
quickly.
Is
there
any
questions?
I
can
answer
for
you
about
the
the
work,
the
team's
doing
or
other
issues
that
you
have
questions
about.
E
P
Thank
you,
kate.
We,
I
think
councilmember
dugan
raised
and
then
I
asked
a
follow-up
about
it
on
behalf
of
me
and
councilmember
voldemoros
and
this
street
racing
bill
that
that
we
were
pushing
in
that
salt
lake
really
supports.
Do
you
think
there's
any
chance
of
including
in
that,
like
the
modified
exhaust,
ordinance
or
modified
exhaust
provisions.
Q
Q
This
has
been
an
issue
that
has
struggled
a
little
bit
senator
main
had
a
bill
that
dealt
with
it
as
well.
It
was
it
was
seen,
as
you
know,
state
of
uttered
away
with
vehicle
inspections.
Q
I
want
to
say
two
years
ago
and
emissions
inspections
are
what
remain,
but
safety
inspections
for
vehicles
are
gone
and
anyway,
senator
mayne
had
a
bill
that
was
attempting
to
bring
some
of
those
safety
requirements
back
in
at
the
time
of
an
emissions
inspection,
and
that
effort
has
struggled
just
a
little
bit
because
of
that
overall
position
of
legislature
two
years
ago
to
do
away
with
safety
inspections.
Q
So
we
can
all.
We
can,
of
course,
always
pursue
that
in
representative
musselman's
bill
on
traffic
amendments,
but
just
just
to
kind
of
give
you
fair
warning
that
going
back
towards
something
that
looks
and
feels
like
a
safety
inspection.
Q
You
know,
which
is
where
those
muffler
components
would
probably
fall,
will
face
a
you
know,
an
uphill
battle
because
of
the
state's
decision
to
go
away
from
safety
inspections.
A
Q
Yes,
there,
there
is
one
coming
up
forcible
entry
amendments,
which
I
know
you
of
course
have
some
particular
interest
in
on
a
new
sub
that
was
just
proposed,
so
that
is
probably
starting
in
the
next
few
minutes.
A
Well
then,
we
will
let
you
get
back
to
work.
Thank
you
so
much
for
everything
you're
doing
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
this
update.
I
appreciate
it.
A
Council
members,
we
are
about
four
minutes
ahead
of
schedule,
so
we
are
currently
in
our
agenda
scheduled
for
a
break
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
that,
let's
see
we're
gonna
do
from
4
15
to
4
35.
So
everyone
gets
a
20
minute
break
at
this.
A
N
N
A
Let's
get
started,
shall
we,
we
are
on
agenda
item
number,
eight,
which
is
the
building
inspections
for
modular
or
factory
built
structures,
and
we
will
have
a
briefing
by
allison
and
then
we
have
orion
and
blake
available.
I
believe
for
this,
so
allison
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
F
This
item
is
a
proposed
ordinance
to
be
able
to
use
building
inspections,
to
do
building
inspections
in
salt
lake
city
for
modular
factory,
built
structures.
Before
I
do
a
quick
description,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
you
did
receive
a
corrected
transmittal
about
an
hour
ago,
it's
in
today's
packets,
and
it
has
today's
date
on
it.
There
was
just
a
minor
thing
that
needed.
F
F
R
Yes,
thanks
allison,
thanks
for
your
work
on
this
hell
to
council,
chair
fowler
and
also
to
the
other
council
members,
thanks
for
allowing
us
to
be
on
today,
I'd
be
ungrateful.
If
I
didn't
thank
you
for
the
respect
that
you
paid
to
greg
michalosh
last
week,
we
miss
him
dearly
and
he's
left
a
big
hole
in
our
hearts
and
in
our
shop,
but
thanks
for
recognizing
him
as
well
on
the
line.
R
R
Just
in
case
that
you
have
questions
that
they
can
answer
you'll
see
in
the
transmittal
that
both
of
them
have
written
letters
in
support
of
the
changes
to
the
adoption
of
this
ordinance.
R
R
R
R
We
get,
we
don't
get
involved
with
federal
buildings,
as
these
structures
in
question
are
built
in
factories
and
they're,
not
usually
located
in
our
local
jurisdiction.
R
It's
not
really
practical
to
make
those
inspections
using
city
inspectors
and
I've
included
some
city
ordinances
to
refer
to.
R
Currently,
the
state
allows
local
jurisdictions
to
adopt
certain
standards
and
policies
and
procedures
to
regulate
this
industry
and
other
things,
and
this,
even
though
all
of
the
other
technical
building
codes
are
about
statewide
state
statute
does
allow
us
some
latitude
in
certain
issues.
If
the
state
hasn't
adopted
a
standard,
the
the
statewide
codes
are
the
international
code
council
codes
and
they're
adopted
statewide
with
amendments,
and
the
amendments
are
based
on
legislative
oversight
committee's
recommendations.
R
R
A
Thank
you
orion,
and
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
council
members
for
questions.
E
Anna
yeah
hi
aryan,
thank
you,
I'm
sure
about
greg's,
leaving
a
hall
anyway.
E
Sorry
about
that,
can
you
clarify
on
the
inspections
this
leeway
that
we
that
we
have
or
that
the
state
gives
us
for.
R
Yeah,
well,
it's
not
coming
from
the
state.
Okay,
the
two
organizations
that
I've
mentioned
they've
been
working
together
to
integrate
these
requirements
into
their
next
code
cycle.
We're
not
sure
when
that
code
cycle
will
happen.
If
it
had
already
happened,
then
they
would
probably
just
be
adopted
statewide
and
we
wouldn't
be
having
to
have
this
conversation.
R
We're
not
really
sure
when
that
will
take
place,
but
the
standards
that
they've
worked
together
on
to
produce
are
far
enough
along
in
the
in
the
process.
Where
there's
there's
not
going
to
be
any
changes
that
are
salient.
You
know
any
big
changes
to
when
they're
going
to
be
adopted.
I
think
covet
has
slowed
down
that
process
a
little
bit,
but
it's
a
consensus-based
process.
That's
ansi
approved
so
we'll
be
just
in
the
position
of
adopting
a
little
bit
early
and
it
has
a
really
orderly
process
for
making
the
inspections
on
these
buildings.
R
Even
if
they're
built
out
of
state.
N
P
Yeah,
I
know
one
company
that
is
in
utah
builds
theirs
in
canada.
R
Right
now
would
be
a
problem
because
I
think
canada's
border
is
still
closed,
but
no
the
canada
would
be
fine
as
long
as
they're
willing
to
build
to
the
standards
that
are
identified
in
the
in
the
code.
Currently,
those
units
being
built
in
canada
are
being
built
to
canadian
codes,
so
all
they'll
have
to
do
is
in
order
to
make
that
work
for
us
is
to
build
to
the
standards
that
are
in
the
international
code
council
that
we
already
reference
in
our
other
technical
codes.
I
Thanks
man
so
orion
prior
to
september
of
this
year,
when
help
keeping
up
again,
I
guess:
how
does
it
affect
those
those
companies
functioning
currently.
R
We've
been
in
touch
with
those
companies,
and
a
lot
of
them
have
already
applied
for
permits.
I'm
not
certain
that
all
of
their
units
are
going
to
be
able
to
come
in
to
are
going
to
be
able
to
come
into
compliance.
But
they
had
a
good
positive
feeling
that
the
units
that
they've
already
built
already
built
to
those
standards
and
that
the
tag
can
be
affixed
to
them.
That
that
we
recognize
in
those
standards.
I
R
They
have
to
warranty
that
product
for
those
homeowners.
I
think
I'm
pretty
sure
that
the
ones
we
didn't
issue
permits
to
any
of
them,
where
we
didn't
have
the
standards
posted
right
on
the
on
the
title
page
of
those
plans
that
they
had
to
be
inspected
by
our
inspectors
in
order
to
be
in
compliance,
so
there
may
be
units
that
they
built
that
weren't
in
compliance
that
they
would
have
to
sell
elsewhere.
R
D
So
the
the
proposal
would
be
that
these
offs,
the
modular
factories,
could
have
their
own
inspections
done.
There'd,
be
some
kind
of
tag
effects
to
them
or
some
documentation.
D
Is
there
a
local
inspection
then
to
look
at
like
footings
and
foundations
and
attachments
that
will
also
have
to
happen.
R
D
Q
M
O
M
F
E
Hi,
as
I
understand
it
there,
this
has
been
an
issue
that
has
been
a
little
confusing
and
held
up
for
a
while,
just
based
on
figuring
out,
what's
the
best
path
forward,
and
I
think
there
may
be
people
waiting
for
this
to
get
completed
and
also
there
was
some
interest
at
the
legislature
in
terms
of
whether
they
would
need
to
pass
a
bill
that
would
enable
this
or
whether
the
city
was
going
to
get
to
it
quickly.
E
So
those
were
the
reasons
I
was
aware
of,
because
you'd
have
to
put
it,
I
think
until
march,
if
you,
if
you
didn't,
do
it
tonight,
so
sometimes
you
do
do
that.
You
certainly
don't
you
don't
have
to
adopt
it
tonight,
but
it's
there's
not
a
any
procedural
reason
that
you
couldn't.
R
You
know,
because
of
because
we're
using
these
national
standards,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
buttoned
up
proposal.
Really
we
just
have
to
make
the
references
to
those
national
standards
and
we've
already
ascertained
that
the
state
is
allowing
us
to
do
that.
So
I
think
the
quicker
the
better
there
are
customers
out
there
that
are
that
are
already
sold
and
ready
for
these
units
to
be
installed.
A
Great,
are
there
further
questions,
I
don't
see
any
hands
and
so
orient
thank
you
for
being
here
and
we
will,
I
think,
see
what
happens
tonight.
Madam
chair.
Yes,.
M
This
is
john
hannes
pecan,
with
modular
building
institute.
If,
if
it
would
please
the
madam
chair,
I
would
just
like
to
add
a
few
comments
for
consideration
of
the
group.
I
know
we
have
some
at
least
one
architect
in
the
group
and
probably
some
others.
I
think
I
might
be
able
to
give
some
clarity
to
great.
Thank
you
sure.
So,
just
very
quickly.
M
You
know
a
modular
constructed
building,
whether
it's
a
multi-family
unit,
a
single
family
house
or
a
commercial
building,
it's
being
built
to
the
same
building
codes
as
a
site-built
structure,
it's
just
simply
being
built
in
a
factory,
so
there's
no
difference
in
it
being
built
to
code.
M
You
know
I
work
on
this
across
the
country
and
in
canada
as
well.
We
just
completed
a
process
project
with
the
fannie
mae
of
canada,
so
the
canadian
mortgage
housing
corporation,
where
they
invested
a
billion
dollars
throughout
the
country
of
canada,
to
do
a
rapid
housing
initiative
only
using
modular
construction.
For
the
reasons
I
just
mentioned
for
the
quickness
of
it
it's
being
built
to
this
to
the
regular
building
codes
and
the
fact
that
it
can
be.
M
You
know,
mass
produced
in
the
factories
which,
when
you
get
it
to
site,
that
means
less
interruption
at
the
site
itself,
because
they're
just
being
put
together
almost
like
lego
blocks
with
a
crane.
So
instead
of
having
a
construction
site,
that's
tearing
up
your
street
and
affecting
traffic
and
the
public
for
months
on
end.
It
may
just
be
a
few
hours
or
a
few
days
or
a
week
that
it's
putting
the
site
together
and
then
it's
finished
and
as
orion
mentioned,
you
know
they're
doing
all
the
regular
inspections
on
site.
M
They
would
be
doing
anyway.
So
it's
really,
you
know
a
win-win
modular
has
been
around
since
the
1600s.
It's
just
something
that
I
think
now
with
especially
the
affordable
housing
space
throughout
the
country.
Kind
of
came
to
a
head
with
cobud
and
we're
seeing
this
you
know
in
the
silicon
valley,
google
facebook
have
invested
millions
of
dollars
in
putting
these
these
types
of
structures
together
to
house
their
own
employees.
A
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
we
have
a
question
john.
I
I
think
that
most
of
us
are
probably
on
board
with
the
concept
of
lowering
costs
through
efficient
building
processes.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
wasn't
going
to
be
an
impasse
for
homeowners
here
and
ensuring
that
our
local
regulations
for
safety
sort
of
dovetailed
and
everyone's
on
the
same
page,
so
we're
open
to
housing
innovations
here
completely,
so
we
can
bring
to
the
market
that
would
help
that
we're
looking
at,
at
least
in
my
view.
Personally,
thanks
thank.
C
A
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
john
for
being
here.
Thank
you
orion.
I
don't
see
any
other
handsets,
so
we
can
move
to
our
next
agenda
item.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Our
next
agenda
item
is-
and
we
are
oh,
no-
we're
right
on
time-
a
ranked
choice,
voting
overview
and
pilot
project
there's
been
a
lot
of
interest
in
this
from
different
council
members
and
constituents
throughout
the
year
since
I've
been
on
the
council,
so
we
decided
that
we
should
do
a
briefing
on
it
and
I
believe
ben
ledke
is
going
to
take
us
away.
We
also
have
cindy
lou
trishman
with
the
city
recorder,
lauren,
schaefer
assistant
city,
recorder
and
pam
spencer,
and,
I
believe,
sherry
swenson
from
our
salt
lake.
A
G
G
G
If
any
is
provided
in
2015,
the
city
put
together
an
inter-departmental
committee
that
had
66
thousand
dollars
for
a
sixth
month
public
education
effort
about
the
switch
to
vote
by
mail
and
the
council
has
expressed
interest
in
a
similar
outreach
effort
for
the
switch
to
ranked
choice.
Voting
it's
unclear
if
state
funding
would
be
available
for
that,
in
addition
to
potential
impacts
from
bills
in
the
legislature,
there's
also
uncertainty
about
the
county's
operations
and
ability
to
provide
ranked
choice.
Voting,
I
believe,
county
clerk.
Sherry
swenson
will
be
here
to
answer.
F
F
So
she
completed
the
updates
to
the
memo
and
has
been
following
the
bills
at
the
legislative
session
to
make
sure
that,
essentially
what
what
ben
summarized.
F
A
We
can
hear
you,
you
might
need
to
speak
up
just
a
little
bit,
but
welcome
welcome
to
the
city
we're
happy
to
have
you.
F
Hi,
thank
you
yeah.
It's
I,
like
cindy
said
I
came
from
the
lieutenant
governor's
office.
I
worked
in
the
elections
division
for
exactly
three
years
on
my
last
day
and
so
I've
had
a
lot
of
experience
in
elections.
I've
done
state
level
federal
level
and
I
helped
with
the
municipals
in
2019.
So
I
kind
of
can
answer
almost
any
question.
Anyone
has
on
election.
F
Like
cindy
said
and
ben
said,
there
are
a
couple
of
bills
up
in
the
legislature
that
could
impact
ranked
choice,
voting
for
us
and
I'll
just
kind
of
run
through
them
quickly.
So
stop
me
if
you
guys
have
questions
along
the
way
like
ben
mentioned,
we
have
to
notify
the
lieutenant
governor's
office
before
april
15th.
If
we're
deciding
to
participate
in
the
pilot
program.
F
If
hb
75
passes
the
recorder's
office
would
no
longer
be
able
to
provide
this
notice.
The
legislative
body
would
have
to
so.
Essentially,
you
guys
would
have
to
provide
the
notice,
but
we
could
obviously
draft
that
up
for
you
guys
and
then,
if
hb
174
passes,
you
would
also
have
to
notify
the
lieutenant
governor
of
which
voting
method
you'd
like
to
choose
hb
174
brings
in
two
new
ranked
choice,
voting
methods,
one
is
the
star
method,
and
one
is
the
approval
method.
F
The
star
method
is
essentially
instead
of
ranking
candidates.
By
who
you
like
the
most,
it
would
be
giving
them
a
total
number
of
stars
out
of
five
five
being
the
best
and
then
averaging
those
amounts
kind
of
similar
to
the
way
we
understand
ring,
choice,
voting
and
the
approval
method
is
basically
the
same
thing.
If
I
approve
of
these
three
candidates
and
then
basically,
they
average
out
the
approvals
of
every
other
voter
and
the
candidate
with
the
most
approvals
goes
forward.
F
So
there's
just
a
couple
different
ways
of
doing
ranked
choice
voting,
but
those
could
change
just
kind
of
our
timelines
a
little
bit
and
then
in
terms
of
budget-
and
this
is
something
I'm
sure
sheri
will
touch
on
if
she's
here,
but
if
hb75
passes
salt
lake
county
would
actually
be
required
by
statute
to
run
the
election
this
summer,
and
so
the
option
for
us
to
potentially
contract
with
a
with
a
different
county
or
run
it
ourselves
would
be
taken
away.
F
We'd
have
to
go
through
salt
lake
county
and
then,
let's
see
that's
kind
of
it
in
terms
of
updates
with
legislation.
I
guess:
does
anyone
have
questions
on
the
way
ranked
choice,
voting
works
or
if
any
of
those
different
methods
are
confusing?
Is
there
anything
I
can
help.
F
I
I
know
a
lot
of
this
depends
on
the
outcome
of
those
three
bills.
One
of
them
says
that
we
have
to
by
april
15th
we
have
our
april
april
15th.
We
would
have
to
opt
into
a
pilot
program,
but
we
have
to
verify
that
we
would
have
the
resources.
F
So
currently
it
would
be
us
stating
that
the
city
would
have
the
resources.
However,
if
some
of
those
bills
pass,
it
would
essentially
be
saying
that
salt
lake
county
would
have
the
resources
or
combined.
We
have
the
resources
with
whoever
we
choose
to
contract
with.
So
it
all
kind
of
depends
on
what
those
what
bills
essentially
pass,
because
they're
very
contradictory,
but
as
it
currently
spans,
it
would
be
if
the
city
itself
has
the
resources
based
on
who
we're
allowed
to
contract
with.
I
I
L
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
this
and
I'm
all
for
the
ring
choice
very
nice.
I
think
this
is
a
great
step
forward.
Can
you
is
there?
Who
else
does
the
star
method
I've?
This
is
the
first
time
this
last
about
two
weeks
ago
was
the
first
time
I
heard
about
the
star
method.
Is
there
any
does
maine
use
the
star
method?
Does
it
other?
Was
the
republican
party
in
their
democratic
party
of
utah
use
the
star
method,
or
do
they
use
the
ranking
method.
F
Currently,
everyone
uses
the
ranking
method
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
and
it's
just
those
would
be
new
options.
I
guess
starting
this
election
cycle
if
that
bill
passes,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
cindy
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that's
my
understanding
is
that
so
far
nobody
uses
any
of
those
other
methods.
Other
methods
right.
This
was
new
to
us
and
and
to
the
yeah
as
far
as
how
this
was
going
to
move
forward.
So
the
star
method
was
just
introduced.
L
And
I
guess
we
have
to
wait
till
the
the
bills
come
through,
but
right
now
we
would
have
a
choice
between
one
method
or
that
would
be.
That
would
would
that
choice
be
county-wide.
A
I
also
have
the
pan.
I
have
pamela
spencer,
the
community
recorder.
She
is
here
with
us
and
vineyard
city
did
rank
choice,
voting
last
election
and
maybe,
if
pamela
wants
to
give
a
little
little
update
about
vineyard
city's
experience
in
moving
to
rcv
we'd
love
to
hear,
and
then
we
do
have
sherry
swenson
here
as
well.
So.
F
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
share
our
experience.
I
thought
the
election
went
really
well.
Our
city
council
was
all
on
board
with
it
our
residents
now
granted.
We
are
much
smaller
city
than
you
guys
are,
but
our
residents
thought
it
went
very
well.
I
had
very
few
questions
that
were
asked
about
it
very
few
people
that
didn't
understand
it.
F
It
was
pretty
simple
for
everybody
to
figure
out
how
to
to
mark
their
ballot.
We
did
some
demos.
We
did
some
education.
The
state
was
great
to
work
with
us
on
it.
They
actually
helped
with
the
funding.
They
got
the
marketing
company.
They
worked
with
us
with
utah
county
to
put
together
video.
I
don't
know,
for
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
that
video
yet
or
not,
they
did
a
great
job.
I
didn't
like
any
of
the
videos
that
were
out
there.
If
you,
you
know,
you
looked
them
up.
F
I
just
didn't
like
the
way
they're
presented,
and
so
I
thought
to
get
a
different
type
of
video.
We
compromised,
and
I
felt
this
video
went
very
well
for
us
was
explaining
how
the
ranking
works.
I
think
that's
the
biggest
process.
The
hardest
thing
is
well:
how
does
the
counting
work?
How
does
that
work?
F
On
the
back
end,
the
counties,
I
sense,
your
staff
of
the
sindhu,
and
so
I
learned
a
link
to
how
the
county
showed,
how
that
ranks,
how
they
ranked
the
votes
and
how
they
worked
and
how
it
works,
and
I
just
I
don't
know
what
more
to
say
about
it,
because
I
just
feel
like
it
went
really
well
that
for
vineyards,
no
wouldn't
have
probably
wouldn't
have
changed
the
outcome
that
I
know
for
payson
that
it
would
have,
if
they've,
that
they're
second
to
place
people
swap
on
it.
F
So
it
could
change
an
outcome.
We
had
seven
people
on
our
ballot.
We
had
two
physicians
proper
election
at
the
time,
two
seats
that
were
open
and
I
just
really
liked
the
way
it
worked.
The
the
options
that
it
had
that
made
me
feel
I
mean
coming
from
a
personal
standpoint-
is
a
lot
of
times.
I
voted
against
somebody
rather
than
force
somebody,
and
I
feel,
like
the
right
choice,
took
that
away
that
so
you're
voting
right.
F
You
still
get
to
vote
for
who
you
want
to
vote
for
whether
they're,
third
or
fourth
person
down
the
list
you're
still
voting
for
who
you
want,
I
mean
and
like
any
other
ballot,
you
still
market.
However,
you
want
to
market
like
any
other
type
of
valid
feeling
about
somebody,
you
don't
so
you're,
not
forced
to
vote
to
rank
every
single
person
on
that
ballot
and
the
ballot.
Just
it's
pretty
easy
to
understand.
F
I
felt
so
I'm
sure
I
could
talk
all
day
about
it,
but
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
that
you
might
have
that
you've
thought
of
that
all
right.
If
I
can
just
mention
council
chair
the
video
that
she
shared,
is
we've
practiced
and
we're
unable
to
get
the
audio
to
come
through,
so
we'll
be
sharing
the
link
to
that
video
and
then
to
another
video.
That's
come
out
from
minnesota
public
radio
about
using
post-it
notes
to
kind
of
display
the
scenario
of
how
it's
done
so
we're
happy
to
provide
those.
F
I
just
can't
display
them
during
the
meeting
today.
Sorry,
sorry
about
that
it
was
working.
What
I
said
it
says
all
that
stuff:
oh
no!
They
sorry
pam,
they
work
it's
just
the
platform
that
we're
on
yeah
yeah,
I'm
sure
it
is
well
that's
too
bad
because
yeah
I
worked
hard
on
that.
I
didn't
like
I
said
I
didn't
like
totally
like
the
other
ones.
F
The
post-it
notes
were
kind
of
funky,
but
our
little
dots
are,
I
mean,
like
I
said
we
compromised
a
little
bit,
but
I
did
get
what
I
wanted
for
the
most
part
out
of
that
video
from
them
so
that
it
made
more
sense.
I
felt
and
it
doesn't
have
little
animals
on
it,
but
I
felt
that
I
thought
the
other
videos
went
towards.
F
A
But
that's
great
thank
you
pamela
for
being
here
and
for
sharing
that
with
us
and
sharing
that
information
again.
Council
members,
we
do
have
sherry,
swenson
the
salt
lake
county
recorder
on
the
the
line,
I
believe,
and
so
if
anybody
has
questions
for
sherry,
I
would
open
that
up
and
I
said
recorder,
I
meant
clerk,
hello,
everyone,
hi,
sherry,
I'm
still
drinking
coffee.
So,
okay.
A
Sherry,
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
join
us
know
that
we've
been
in
conversations
quite
a
bit
of
rank
choice.
Voting.
I
always
that's
such
a
tongue.
Twister
for
me.
Do
council
members
have
questions
or
sherry.
Do
you
want
to
kind
of
give
the
county's
perspective
a
little
bit?
Maybe
we
can
go
for
questions
after
that?
A
S
So,
just
to
let
you
know,
I
know
it
had
been
reported.
In
fact,
in
the
presentation
to
one
of
the
committee
meetings,
government,
ops
committee
and
in
the
newspaper
that
I
had
refused
to
accommodate
rate
choice
voting
and
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
did
not
have
equipment
that
would
accommodate
rank
choice
voting.
So
we
were
not
able
to
create
a
ballot
tabulate,
a
ballot
for
ranked
choice.
Voting
with
our
previous
voting
system.
However,
we
did
sign
a
contract
on
just
on
december
31st
to
get
new
voting
equipment.
S
We
have
not
yet
received
the
equipment
it's
going
to
be
coming
in
piecemeal
and
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
delay
in
us
getting
the
equipment
we
had
hoped
and
thought
we
would
have
it
much
sooner.
But
after
my
managers,
five
managers,
our
data
analysts
and
our
it
service
manager
reviewed
the
three
vendors
made
our
decision,
the
county
council
decided
that
they
wanted
our
technology
advisory
board
to
weigh
in
so
we
had
to
bring
back
the
two
finalists
and
have
them
present
all
over
again.
S
So
I
apologize
that
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
getting
our
new
voting
system.
We're
going
to
be
getting,
as
I
said,
the
equipment
it's
going
to
be
coming
in
piecemeal
over
the
next
several
weeks
and
what
we
really
think
is
necessary
and
important
to
do
is
test
it
and
make
sure
that
it
can
efficiently
offer
ranked
choice.
Voting
we've
been
in
meetings
with
the
vendor.
We
had
a
meeting
on
friday.
S
They
sent
us
some
examples
of
what
a
ballot
layout
or
format
would
look
like
for
a
ranked
choice,
voting
and
for
salt
lake
city.
Where
you
have
council
districts,
I
don't
foresee
it
being
problematic,
because
the
complexity
comes
when
you're
doing
at-large
or
multi-contest
winners
and
utah
has
a
very
unique
and
different
version
in
our
law
that
provides
for
how
those
are
tabulated
and
they
call
it
block
preferential
voting,
which
is
not
used
anywhere
else
and
isn't
in
our
opinion
and
the
opinion
of
some
of
the
information
of
the
political
scientists
online.
S
S
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
started
offering
contracts
for
cities
in,
and
I
was
the
first
county
clerk
to
do
that,
and
the
first
cities
that
came
on
board
were
salt
lake
sandy
and
south
jordan,
because
at
that
point
in
time,
prior
to
that
they
were
hand
counting
paper
ballots
after
the
polls
closed,
and
I
thought
okay,
we
have
an
automated
system
at
that
point
in
time
again
it
was
the
punch
card
system,
but
nevertheless
I
had
this
automated
system
and
staff
that
were
trained
to
do
elections,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
a
great
benefit
to
the
voters
and
it
really
was,
and
after
those
first
three
cities
came
on
board
the
only
complaint
we
heard
that
election
is
we
ruined
their
election
night
party
because
we
were
through
tabulating,
so
much
quicker
than
it
would
have
been
had
they
been
hand
counting
the
ballots
after
the
polls
closed
it
snowballed
from
there
all
of
the
cities
came
on
board
to
contract
with
salt
lake
county,
and
we
had
have
been
conducting
elections
for
18
cities.
S
12
local
districts
and
five
metro
townships
simultaneously
and
that's
one
of
the
things
you
know
because
of
the
complexity.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
will
work
efficiently.
Those
local
boards
or
districts
overlap
the
boundaries
of
the
municipalities,
and
so
we've
got
some
work
to
do
to
try
to
figure
out
how
this
can
all
come
together.
S
But
I
want
you
to
know
that
I've
always
said.
I
want
to
conduct
the
elections
in
the
way
that
the
city
councils
want
us
to
do
their
elections
and
it's
been
a
great
partnership
and
we
hope
to
continue,
but
we'll
be
able
to
give
you
more
information
when
we
can
get
our
hands
on
the
system
and
right
now
we
don't
have
it
in
our
possession
because
of
that
delay.
A
Thank
you
sherry.
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
also,
sherry
helped
me
with
the
presentation
for
the
national
league
of
cities
when
we
were
doing
talking
about
melon
voting
and
how
we're
one
of
the
first
to
do
all
melon
voting
and
and
the
amount
of
the
increase
in
voter
turnout
that
we've
seen
over
melon
voting.
So
thank
you
for
your
help.
With
that
sherry,
it
was
interesting
to
other
council
members
throughout
the
country.
So
I
appreciate
that.
S
And
we've
had
a
90.11
turnout
of
a
record
number
of
registered
voters
this
for
this
previous
november
election.
In
fact,
the
increase
of
registered
voters
in
salt
lake
county
was
over
a
hundred
thousand
above
what
it
was
in
2016
and
then
to
have
a
90.11
turnout
in
salt
lake
county
six
hundred
and
ten
thousand
two
hundred
and
eighteen
active
registered
voters.
It
was
phenomenal
and
it
wouldn't
have
been
that
had
it
not
been
for
vote
by
mail.
A
S
P
P
And
do
you
anticipate
that
being
an
issue
in
municipal
races
like
because,
as
far
as
I
can
think
of,
there
would
only
ever
be
one
council,
member
and
the
mayor
at
any
time
on
the
salt
lake
city
ballot.
Is
that
right.
S
Well,
that
was
one
of
my
concerns.
In
fact,
we
didn't
know,
because
utah's
la
la
does
not
allow
for
a
a
certain
number
of
candidates
to
be
ranked
it's
wide
open,
which
is
unusual
so,
for
example,
in
saint
paul
and
in
let's
see
where's
the
other
jurisdiction
they
they
have
at
least
five
at
the
most
that
you
can
rank.
There
is
no
limit
on
the
utah
law
as
to
how
many
can
be
ranked.
So
I
was
worried
about
how
that
would
fit
onto
a
ballot.
S
We
did
see
an
example
of
a
ballot
format
just
friday
from
our
vendor,
and
it
looks
like,
for
example,
in
2019.
You
had
eight
primary
candidates
for
mayor
and
how
that
would
fit
across
the
width
of
the
ballot.
We
looked,
we
looked
at
it.
I
think
there
is
room,
I
mean
if
you
get
16
it's
going
to
be
a
problem,
I'm
just
saying,
and
it's
it's
the
space
and
the
width
of
the
ballot
that
I
was
concerned
about
and
the
length
of
the
ballot.
S
So
I
don't
think
with
the
two-sided
ballot,
it's
going
to
push
it
to
a
two-card
ballot
anytime.
You
push
it
to
a
two-card
ballot,
it's
a
lot
more
expensive,
but
the
only
thing,
additionally
is
if
you
added
questions
bond
issues
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
that
was
what
I
discussed
with
you
and
trying
to
figure
out
how,
with
this
unlimited
number
of
ranks
or
choices
on
a
ballot,
how
that
would
fit
on
a
ballot.
P
Deal
with
the
other
like
additional
costs,
either
if
there
is
something
like
that
that
comes
up
or
we
need
another
page
or
the
cost,
to
educate
voters
that
that
we're
going
to
try
this
and
and
how
to
cover
that,
and
I
was
in
a
way
that
there
are,
I
guess,
state
funds
available
to
help
with
that.
Do
you
know
if
they
would
help
cover
the
cost
of
like
if
the
ballot
issue
came
or
do,
or
did
they
just
cover
the
cost
of
informing
voters?
Do
you
know.
S
You
know
I
heard
about
the
addition,
the
funds
for
it
for
the
first
time
in
a
meeting
about
a
week
ago,
and
I
checked
with
justin
lee
and
he
said
actually
there
had
been
250
000
allocated
for
funds
to
help
with
that
pilot
project.
I
was
not
aware
of
that.
He
said
there's
now
two
hundred
thousand,
apparently
they
spent
fifty
thousand
and
it
might
have
been
on
the
marketing
that
they
did
for
payson
and
vineyard,
I'm
not
sure,
so
I'm
not
positive
of
how
specific
that
is.
S
So
we
haven't
delved
in
to
all
of
that.
Our
fiscal
analyst,
in
the
previous
analysis,
that
if
we
had
a
two
card
ballot
county-wide,
it
would
cost
an
additional
194
thousand
dollars.
So
you
know,
depending
on
the
jurisdiction
and
the
size
and
and
the
number
of
voters,
it
would
all
be
factored
into
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
I
talked
to
you
about
also
was
the
the
potential
number
of
ballots
to
be
adjudicated
additional
to
what
we
have
and
so
adjudicated
ballots.
S
If
a
voter
starts
changing
their
mind
crossing
out
this
number
and
saying,
oh,
I
need
to
rank
this
one
instead,
every
time
someone
on
a
paper
ballot
makes
a
mark
on
the
ballot
to
change
their
mind
or
even
if
they
write
us
little
notes
or
whatever
it
pulls
it
out
of
the
process,
and
then
we
have
to
send
it
to
a
team
of
two
individuals
to
adjudicate
and
determine
the
voter
intent.
S
So
I
think
with
ranking
an
ungiven
number
of
candidates,
it
makes
sense
to
me
that
that
it's
going
to
be
more
adjudication
and
we
haven't
quite
figured
out
what
the
cost
of
that
might
be.
I
know
that
josh
daniels
gave
us
the
number
for
the
adjudicated
ballots
and
payson
and
vineyard,
and
it
was
about
10
times.
S
Our
data
analysts
figured
out
the
number
of
adjudicated
ballots
that
we
had
for
our
primary
in
2019,
so
it
makes
sense.
You
know
the
more
opportunities
and
more
positions.
People
have
to
mark
they're
they're,
maybe
gonna
change
their
mind
and
say:
oh,
I
don't
want
this
to
be
number.
Six.
I'd
rather
be
number
seven
and
so
on.
So
we're
not
sure
how
that's
going
to
all
work
out.
Yeah.
S
I'm
sorry
which
which,
which
one
is
that,
if
it's
hb
127,
it
doesn't
apply
to
the
municipal
pilot
project.
F
P
That's
great
thanks
thanks
cindy,
my
last
question
is
just
you
know:
when
can
we
to
you
know
if
today's
the
deadline
to
give
notice
that's
a
problem,
especially
because
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
test
the
machine?
I'm
sorry
what.
G
P
S
You
know
we're
certainly
going
to
try,
like
I
said
we're
getting
our
scanners
this
week
additional
equipment
next
week.
What
our
idea
was
is
that
we
could
have
some
good
numbers
for
you
by
the
middle
of
march.
S
We
hope
that
that's
what
we're
planning
at
this
point
in
time,
I
would
have
normally
had
a
meeting
with
city
reporters
and
said
you
know
this
is
the
cost
for
contracting
your
elections,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
that
because
of
some
of
the
legislation
and
cities
that
are
interested
in
ranked
choice
voting
so
we're
a
little
behind
on
that.
L
D
S
We
don't
see
that
in
the
statute
in
the
and
the
reference
to
the
other
statute
is
hb
127
and
that's
a
rank
choice,
voting
option
that
will
pertain
to
the
primaries
and
even
number
gears
that
representative
wender
is
presenting
and
he
did
put
a
limit
in
that
bill.
But
in
the
current
law
that
exists,
we
don't
see
an
option
for
anyone
to
say
we
can
only
rank
three
or
five.
D
Okay,
my
follow-up
question
is:
if
we
I,
I
understand,
that
each
sort
of
election
might
for
each
sort
of
cycle
might
take
more
time
to
adjudicate
and
all
those
things
that
you
mentioned,
but
would
that
be
offset
by
the
fact
that
we
potentially
wouldn't
be
having
a
primary
at
all,
so
overall,
it
would
be
less
work.
Do
you
think?
Okay.
S
Yes,
definitely
the
the
best
benefit
of
this
is
to
eliminate
your
primary
and
I've
said
this
a
number
of
times,
not
only
if
we
can
do
this
efficiently
and
accurately.
S
We
would
like
to
have
you
be
able
to
eliminate
your
primary
and,
quite
honestly,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
eliminate
the
work
that
we
do
for
your
primary,
because
it
is
a
lot
of
work
for
my
staff,
and
so
that's
the
best
benefit
of
this.
If
you
forgo
your
primary
and
then
go
to
the
general
election
with
with
the
issues
on
the
general
election
ballot,
I
heard
you
talking
about
star
voting,
although
they
put
that
in
legislation
as
an
option,
our
system
will
not
conduct
star
voting
approval
voting.
S
Yes,
it
will
and
approval
voting
is
something
similar
to
just
selecting
at
large
candidates
that
wouldn't
even
take
a
change
in
the
way
we
have
done
things
in
the
past.
S
S
L
I
was
just
gonna
just
have
a
statement,
so
thank
you
and
thank
you
sherry.
I
was
on
that
call
on
friday
and
it
was
a
wonderful
discussion
on
ranked
choice.
Voting
and
some
stan
lockhart
had
some
great
explanation
and
stories
about
it,
and
one
of
his
stories
is
about.
L
He
took
a
study
to
an
assisted
living
facility
and
he
gave
out
the
ring
choice,
voting
to
a
bunch
of
elderly
people
over
85,
and
he
kind
of
did
a
short
explanation
to
him
and
then
gave
him
the
voting
and
without
really
any
explanation
to
it
all
they
were
able
to
figure
it
out,
handle
it.
They
had
a
great
discussion
amongst
themselves
and
when
they
turned
in
their
balance,
they
had
very
few
errors
or
anything
else
there.
So
you
know
when
people
are
scared
that
rank
choice.
Voting
is
complicated
and
difficult.
L
It
really
isn't
all
that
difficult
and
with
no
real
instructions.
This
group
of
elderly
people
and
I'm
almost
there
we're
able
to
we're
able
to
handle
it,
and
so,
but
they
had
some
great
discussions
there.
So
it
actually
does
everything
what
we
wanted
to
do
spurs
that
discussion
and
it's
not
really
all
that
complicated.
So
it
was
a
great
discussion
and
maybe
we
could
get
those
stan's
remarks
and
we
could
send
it
out
to
everybody,
but
it
was
a
great
discussion
and
thank
you
for
being
there
sherry.
A
Great
thanks
everyone.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
for
questions
for
any
one
of
our
panelists,
but
thank
you
all
for
being
here
really
appreciate
you
taking
time
out
of
your
evening
to
join
us
and
to
provide
this
information.
So
thanks
so
much
it's
good
to
see
everybody
and
we
can
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
bye.
Everyone.
Thank
you.
A
A
No,
please
do
you
have
texted
me
and
I
completely
forgot
about
the
storm
update,
so
please
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
I
just
put
a
link
in
the
chat
to
the
national
weather
service,
salt
lake
city.
There's
a
there's
been
a
storm
anticipated,
but
now
it's
looking
like
it's
going
to
be
much
bigger
than
we'd
expected
it's
going
to
impact
most
of
the
wasatch
front,
all
of
salt
lake
valley,
and
so
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
our
storm
crews
are
already
out
there.
B
B
I
think
that
the
the
benefit
of
us
working
online
is
that
the
city
is
still
working
hard
and
we're
going
to
be
able
to
field
all
of
your
needs
as
residents
and
businesses
electronically,
just
like
we've
been
doing
for
months,
but
there
may
be
delays
to
openings
at
other
different
levels
of
government.
I
think
the
county's
talking
about
some
delayed
openings
right
now
and
we
just
want
to
encourage
anybody
in
the
area
who
can
avoid
driving
while
the
the
snow
crews
are
out
there
at
work
tonight
and
into
tomorrow
morning.
B
I
think
it's
looking
like
10
or
11
in
the
morning
is
when
this
warning
goes
through.
So
if
you
can
go
into
work
late,
if
you
still
commute,
please
see
about
making
arrangements
to
do
so
later
or
take
take
your
time
getting
around,
because
this
storm
is
coming
thanks.
Madam
chair,
for
giving
me
a
second.
A
Of
course,
thank
you
mayor.
I
would
ask
mary
if
you
don't
mind
in
case
I
forget,
if
we
could
make
a
similar
announcement
during
our
formal
meeting
during
our
questions
to
the
mayor
section
of
the
agenda,
I
think
we
have
more
people
that
tend
to
tune
in
to
our
formal
meeting
and
that
might
be
some
relevant
information
for
people
that
tune
in
at
that
time.
A
You
with
that,
we
will
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
10,
which
is
our
board
appointment
to
the
housing
trust
fund
advisory
board
and
see
if
shelly
bodily
is
here
with
us.
I
am
here
hello,
hi
good,
to
see
you
yeah.
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
joining
the
housing
trust
fund
advisory
board.
If
you
want
to
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you're
interested
in
that
particular
board?
Yes,.
F
So
I'm
shelley
bodily
and
I
am
I'm
an
assistant
professor
at
salt
lake
community
college.
So
ten
year
I
have
tenure
and
one
more
year,
which
is
the
assistant
part.
I
teach
in
the
architecture
department
and
I
live
in
the
ballpark
in
district
five.
F
So
that's
I
have
a
husband
and
I've
got
three
little
girls
trapped
down
in
a
bedroom
right
now,
so
hopefully
you
guys
don't
hear
them
trying
to
break
free,
but
we've
had
a
lot
of
things
going
on
downtown
in
salt
lake
and
I
think
utah
in
general.
F
Lately
we've
had
a
lot
of
growth
and
the
ballpark
is
really
changing
right
now,
I'm
sure
everybody
is
well
aware
of
what's
going
on
over
here
and
you
know,
I
really
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
kind
of
that
formation
of
our
community,
and
so
I
decided
a
couple
of
years
ago
to
just
really
start
getting
involved
in
my
community,
and
so
you
know
I
I'm
very
interested
in
the
the
growth
and
development
happening
here.
F
I
also
was
kind
of
interested
in
the
redevelopment.
You
know
those
are
kind
of
some
of
the
areas
I
I
went
for
with
the
redevelopment,
the
housing
trust
advisory,
ballpark
doesn't
have
a
library,
so
I
also
looked
into
you
know,
interviews
for
the
library
board,
but
that's
really
really
what
I'm
interested
in.
I
just
I
wanted
to
be
involved,
and
you
know
working
at
sally
community
college.
They
really
support
local
involvement.
F
It's
kind
of
part
of
my
teaching
engagement
is
to
be
out
in
the
community
and
they
support
that,
and
so
you
know
not
only
was
it
a
personal
interest,
but
also
really
supported
by
my
profession.
So
so
that's
where,
where
I'm
at.
A
Great,
that's
awesome.
Council
members.
I
almost
had
board
members
but
council
members
any
questions
for
shelly
today,
darren.
D
Just
hello,
thanks
for
your
interest
in
this
board
and
thanks
for
everything
you've
been
doing
to
to
advocate
for
the
community
in
ballpark,
appreciate
you
being
interested
in
this.
F
L
A
Well,
sh,
okay,
I'm
unmuted
shelly!
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
and
you
will
be
on
our
consent
agenda
this
evening
in
our
formal
meeting
that
starts
at
7.
You
certainly
do
not
have
to
log
in
for
that.
It's
towards
the
end
of
the
agenda,
but
you
will
be
there
perfect
forward
to
it.
Gosh.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Next,
we
have
another
board
appointment
again
to
the
housing
trust
fund
advisory
board,
and
that
is
jose.
Organista
is
jose
with
us.
K
F
A
Yeah
there's
nothing
to
report
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
I
don't
think
unless
james
has
something
to
report
and
so
yeah
we
can
turn
to
report
announcements
from
the
executive
director.
Then.
Are
you
definitely
doing
that.
A
A
Hi,
why
don't
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
why
you're
interested
in
being
on
the
housing
trust
fund,
advisory
board.
M
Yes,
so
so,
first
and
foremost
well,
I
just
got
back
from
an
lds
mission
and
18
months.
I
was
just
serving
people
and
I'd
love
to
serve
people,
and
you
know
I
just
I
got
back
because
it
covered
they
sent
me
back
and
I'm
just
looking
for
ways
to
help,
and
I
guess
the
housing
trust
fund
board
is
fits
perfectly.
M
What
with
things
I
love
to,
do
I
mean
I'm
studying
business
in
college
and
I'm
also
going
to
go
into
real
estate
and
I'm
purchasing
my
first
house
this
september,
so
I'm
latino
and
I'm
doing
it
because
district
one
is,
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
minorities
in
this
district,
and
I
just
want
to
help
those
people
that-
and
I
mean
this
trust-
this
housing
trust
fund
board,
helps
those
people
in
need,
and
I
think,
last
time
I
talked
to
this
group
of
two
women,
they
told
me
that
there's
the
housing
trust
fund
board
helps,
I
think,
it's
homeless,
get
back
into
kind
of
like
into
society
with
housing
and
then
there's
second
one
is
like
for,
for
I
mean
people
that
have
low
income,
and
I
think
the
majority
of
those
people
are
are
people
of
color.
M
So
I'm
here
to
help
my
community,
which
is
majority
of
of
people
of
color,
and
and
I
mean
I
understand
how
they
feel
I've
been
in
their
shoes,
and
I
think
I
know
I
can
give
a
little
insight
of
how
they
they
might
need
housing
in
in
district
one
which
is
going
through
a
lot
of
housing.
I
I've
seen
that
it's
been
going
through
a
lot
of
housing
issues.
So
that's
what
that's
the
main
reason
why
I
want
to
help,
and
I
also
want
to
serve
my
community,
and
this
fits
perfectly.
M
I
mean
I've.
I
applied
to
the
other
three
other
two
other
boards,
but
I
think
this
one's
the
one
I
really
want
to
stay
in.
So
this
is
the
one
I'm
going
for
so
so
yeah.
A
That's
great
well
board
or
council
members:
do
you
guys
have
any
questions
for
jose.
E
A
It
is
great,
and
you
know
I
have
to
say
I
appreciate
that
we
are
having
younger
people
get
involved
in
our
boards
and
in
our
civic
engagement,
and
so
I
commend.
I
commend
you
on
that.
I
don't
think
I
got
involved
into
politics
until
I
was
older
or
and
and
so
that's
awesome
and
we
look
forward.
Thank
you
for
wanting
to
serve.
We
look
forward
to
having
you
on
this
board.