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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 11/22/2022
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A
I've
come
out
to
this
site
a
couple
different
times
and,
as
I
was
getting
ready
this
morning,
my
husband's
like
okay.
What
are
you?
What
are
you
doing
today
and
I'm
like
oh
I'm,
going
to
the
Water
Reclamation
facility
and
he's
like
again
what
is
with
you
dad
in
the
cemetery
you're
always
going
to
those
I?
A
Don't
know
what
that
says
about
me,
but
anyway,
I'm
a
council,
member,
Chris,
Wharton
and
I
represent
District
3,
which
includes
the
Avenues
on
Capitol,
Hill
and
right
in
between
them
City
Creek
Canyon,
which
is
the
first
water
source
that
the
Pioneer
settlers
used
to
start
establishing
the
Salt
Lake
Valley,
and
ever
since
that
time
you
know
Salt
Lake
City
is
the
capital
city,
is
the
biggest
city
in
Utah
and
has
been
a
leader
in
not
only
water
management
but
water
conservation,
something
that
was
really
important.
A
That's
always
been
important
in
the
history
of
our
City,
but
has
becoming
more
and
more
important
every
year,
as
we
continue
to
experience,
drought
and
I'm
just
so
proud
to
be
a
part
of
a
city,
a
municipality
that
is
a
leader
in
conservation
and
in
smart
water
planning
for
our
future,
and
this
plant
is
a
big
big
part
of
that
having
a
facility,
that's
I,
think,
55
years
old
that
never
takes
a
break
not
for
one
minute
runs
365
days
a
year
and
24
hours
a
day
that
that's
a
lot
and
if
you
think
about
all
all
that
passes
through
this
facility
and
as
we
heard
it
really
is
pretty
miraculous
that
we
can
take
all
of
these
things
that
that
get
go
down
the
drain,
including
household
chemicals,
including
all
of
the
many
curious
things
that
people
try
to
send
down
the
pipes
which
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
some
stories
about
while
we
walk
around.
A
But
it
really
is
quite
shocking.
So
it's
fascinating
to
me
to
be
here.
I
hope
that
all
of
you
enjoy
learning
more
about
how
this
system
works
and
how
critical
this
facility
is
to
the
city's
water
infrastructure
and
I
hope
that
this
new
facility,
which
is
expected
to
go
for
75
years
and
we'll,
will
lead
us
through
a
new
era
of
conservation
and
residents,
realizing
how
important
this
infrastructure
is.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
helping
us
spread
the
word
to
the
public.
B
So,
as
the
public
utilities,
director
I
feel
extremely
supported
by
our
elected
officials
by
our
Advisory
Board
and
also
by
the
staff
at
Public,
Utilities
I
just
want
to
point
out.
When
we
talk
about
meeting
28
years
of
compliance,
Jamie
and
Jose,
you
guys
can
raise
your
hands.
These
two
are
responsible
for
running
this
facility
and
they
are
amazing
managers
and
leaders
of
this
facility.
They
are
part
of
the
design
of
the
new
facility.
B
He
tends
to
stand
in
the
back
like
that,
but
he's
he's
very.
He
is
invaluable
to
our
department
and
the
Water
Reclamation
facility
and
Engineering
functions
of
our
department
is
something
that
he's
in
charge
of
and
then
of
course,
Holly
Lopez.
Here
she
was
involved
in
all
the
sustainability
work
for
this
project,
so
making
sure
we
can
get.
We
can
get
the
best
Envision
accreditation.
She
tracks
everything
on
a
weekly
basis,
so
we
have
lots
of
great
metrics.
So
anyway,
we
just
have
a
phenomenal
City
team
here.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
C
C
November
2022
Salt
Lake
City
Council
work
session
meeting.
Welcome
to
today's
meeting.
We
continue
to
hold
hybrid
meetings
to
keep
everyone
healthy
and
safe.
Our
meetings
are
public
and
you
are
welcome
to
join
us
in
person
or
by
watching
from
our
council's
agenda
page
Facebook,
YouTube
or
SLC
TV.
We
hope
you'll
continue
to
join
us
in
whichever
manner
you
feel
most
comfortable.
C
This
is
a
work
session
meeting
during
which
there
is
no
public
comment.
Please
join
us
tonight
during
our
7
PM
formal
meeting.
To
share
your
comments.
We
welcome
your
feedback
Anytime
by
mailings
at
PO,
Box
145-476,
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah,
84114
email,
ask
Council,
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com
or
our
24
hour
phone
comment
line.
801-535-7654.
C
Written
comments
we
receive
on
agenda
topics
are
shared
with
council
members
and
posted
to
our
website.
Slcc
council.com.
We
will
now
begin
our
work
session
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
normal
update
from
the
admin
and
we
have
Lindsay
and
Tim
join
us
and
Andrew
come
on
down.
D
Thank
you
so
much
I
think
that
we
have
some
slides
for
you
today.
As
we
usually
do
perfect,
we
can
head
right
in
with
the
covet
update
that
we
typically
give
and
kind
of
the
same
as
last
time
which
cases
in
the
US
are
up
four
percent
here
in
Utah
they're
up
16
over
the
last
two
weeks
and
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
necessarily
unexpected,
given
the
season
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
D
This
is
just
some
of
the
data
that
the
County
shares
on
their
website,
so
that
you
can
see
you
know
weekly
case
ID
numbers
how
many
people
have
been
vaccinated
Etc.
This
next
slide
that
we'll
go
to
is
the
data
from
our
waste
Reclamation
facility
and
things
there
have
changed
a
little
bit.
They
are.
They
are
marking
themselves
as
increasing
now,
so
what
you're,
seeing
there
is
that
the
data
that
they
collect
indicates
an
increase
in
the
presence
of
covid
in
our
waste
Reclamation
facility.
D
So
that's
something
to
note
there
and
then
we'll
head
over
to
the
next
slide,
which
is
just
a
slide
about
overall
Community
Wellness.
You
can
see
the
headlines
here
around
some
of
the
health
issues
that
hospitals
Across
the
Nation
are
experiencing
so
with
RSV
covid
and
the
flu
hospitals
are
quote,
unquote
filled
to
the
brink
and
our
own
Primary
Children's
Hospital
Just
A
Week
Ago
said
that
they
were
full
to
the
brim.
D
So
for
adults,
RSB
can
feel
just
like
a
scratchy
throat,
but
it
can
impact
children
so
much
more
severely.
So
it's
important
as
we
head
into
the
holiday
weekend
and
spend
time
with
each
other
and
our
families
that
we
think
about
it.
If
we're
feeling,
even
just
the
tiniest
bit
sick,
it
just
helps
to
throw
on
a
mask.
So
that's
kind
of
what's
going
on
there
with
Community
Health
and
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Tim.
Now.
E
Thank
you,
Tim
Cosgrove,
Community,
Council
liaison
and
for
district
seven
nice
to
be
with
you
here
this
afternoon.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you
that
better
we're
just
giving
the
community
engagement
highlights.
You
know
we
like
to
hear
the
public
input.
So
I've
listed
the
feedback
page
where
most
of
our
community
engagement
opportunities
are
posted.
People
can
have
access,
there's
at
least
10
10
of
those
posted
right
now
our
housing
SLC
team
continues
to
develop
our
new
housing
plan.
E
E
E
So
the
project
started
October,
25th
and
wraps
up
today,
November
22nd
domestication
crew,
topped
out
at
five
mastication
track
hoes
operating
at
one
time
from
5
00
am
to
6
p.m.
Sometimes,
seven
days
a
week
in
a
in
a
joint
decision
with
all
involved,
the
mastication
crew
will
stop
early
on
the
west
side
of
Lamb's
Canyon
they've
completed
about
two-thirds
of
the
planned
Salt
Lake
City
property
and
have
successfully
followed
the
statement
of
work
in
that
area.
That
calls
for
our
Mosaic
of
oak
tree
Islands
to
create
the
field
breaks.
E
E
E
And
our
mayor's
office
Community
office
hours
due
to
the
many
businesses
and
community
community
locations
being
focused
on
the
holidays.
This
December
we've
decided
to
take
a
break
from
Community
office
hours
and
we
focused
on
some
community
service
projects
and
our
regular
community
and
business
Outreach.
E
E
The
applications
are
now
open
until
December
13th.
The
information
session
last
night
had
I
think
over
12
people
in
attendance.
So
we're
getting
the
word
out
there
there's
a
lot
of
interest
for
participation.
E
And
upcoming
events,
we
have
the
Winner's
Farmers
winter
farmers
market
that
started
November
12th
and
it
goes
through
to
April
15th,
that's
inside
the
Gateway,
from
10
a.m,
to
2
p.m
and
it's
a
great
place
to
get
local
produce
meat,
eggs,
cheese,
baked
goods,
chocolates,
Arts
crafts
and
the
public
lands
park.
Ranger
team
continues
their
jingle
and
mingle
event
at
Pioneer
Park
on
Fridays
throughout
the
holiday
season.
It's
an
opportunity
to
for
the
public
to
come
out
and
meet
with
the
Rangers
and
enjoy
some
hot
chocolate
get
and
get
to
know
each
other.
F
G
Council
members
I
think
that
the
slides
coming
up
are
not
correct.
This.
G
Oh
there
we
go
okay,
then
these
are
correct.
You'll
see
if
they're
simplified
version
this
week
because
of
the
number
of
locations
we're
talking
about
through
the
winter
time
the
Resource
Centers
have
lumped
them
together.
For
this
particular
one,
you
can
see
they're
running
it
still
high
percent
97
capacity
across
those
base,
700
beds,
the
Overflow
beds
within
those
facilities,
the
175
total
we
had
are
running
at
62
percent.
G
It's
not
a
full
175
yet
because
they
haven't
gone
all
the
beds
open
at
the
women's
one
yet,
but
you
can
get
a
sense
of
the
uptake
right
now
and
then
we'll
go
overflows
running
at
65
percent
of
those
hundred
beds
as
well.
The
one
you
don't
see
there,
St
Vincent
de
Paul
overflow
is
running
at
72
percent
per
night
and
they
have
65
beds
downtown.
So
you
can
see
that
it's
not
a
full
capacity.
Each
night
there
are
available
options
right
now
at
all
those
locations.
G
There
are
active
discussions.
We've
talked
before
about
the
reality
of
12-hour
beds
each
night,
and
so
people
are
coming
back
downtown
to
get
had
Services
during
the
day
and
also
re-up
for
beds.
That
night,
the
state
has
been
working
with
providers
over
the
last
several
weeks
to
look
at
the
data
to
see
what
the
use
of
those
beds
are
and
the
impact
of
folks
coming
back
downtown.
We
do
know
there
are
always
a
lot
of
folks
along
Rio
Grande
Street
because
of
the
limited
numbers
they're,
not
as
many
as
we
may
have
anticipated.
G
However,
the
state
and
the
providers
are
working
on
options
to
keep
those
overflow
beds
open,
24
hours
a
day
going
forward,
so
just
an
update
for
you
all.
It's
not
finalized
in
any
way
at
this
point,
but
those
discussions
are
still
working
they're
still
working
through
the
details,
the
logistics
of
doing
that.
The
funding
from
the
state
Etc
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
aware
of
those
discussions
moving
forward.
G
You
can
also
see
rapid
intervention
team
is
working
with
a
number
of
active
locations
for
engagement
with
campers,
as
well
as
12
scheduled
site
rehabs
for
this
week,
I
believe
into
next
week.
They
did
a
large
one
on
Fifth
West
downtown
this
week
yesterday,
I
believe
as
well
an
encampment
cleanup,
so
active
again.
The
holidays
will
be
a
little
of
a
break
and
then
back
again
next
week,
any
questions
I.
H
Do
have
a
question
Andrew
if
there
were
groups
that
wanted
to
bring
food
and
donate
food
to
to
some
of
our
sheltered
friends,
would
it
be
okay
to
contact
your
office
so
that
you
can
give
them
some
information
on
where
to
go?
I've
got
a
lot
of
requests.
Hey,
we
want
to
volunteer
hey,
we
want
to
bring
food,
we
want
to
cook
and
and
then
go
drop
it
off
and
I'm
like
I,
know,
there's
plenty
of
places,
but
we
need
to
be
strategic.
Like
don't
just
go
on
the
street.
G
I
think
it's
natural
for
a
lot
of
folks
to
want
to
come
downtown
and
help,
and
we
love
that
definitely
you're
right
about
trying
to
coordinate
so
that
there's
not
a
massive
amount
of
stuff
in
Pioneer,
Park
and
just
left
and
maybe
not
utilized
either,
because
so
many
people
are
coming
yeah.
You
can
contact
myself
directly
or
this
this
mayor's
office
and
we
can
help
direct
people
in
the
right
right
place.
If
folks
are
interested
in
going
right
to
this
heart
to
the
source,
they
can
go
to
shelter
the
homeless.
D
H
All
right
and
I
wanted
to
add
one
more
comment.
Last
night
we
went
to
this
awesome
light
on
event
at
the
Eccles
theater
beautiful,
choir,
beautiful
tree,
but
also
the
VOA
was
there
and
promoting
the
donate
some
winter
clothing.
They
have
jackets
for
the
Youth,
Research,
Center,
I,
think
or
it's
just
for
anyone
so
to
the
public
that
is
listening.
If
you
have
a
code
that
you're
not
using
anymore,
please
drop
them
off
at
Echoes,
Theater
and
I.
Think
the
VOA
has
other
places
to
go
drop
off
some
clothes,
correct.
G
Yes,
correct
council
member
big
coat
drives
big
need.
Obviously,
if
you
go
to
the
website
of
the
Volunteers
of
America
Utah,
the
road
home
as
well
as
I,
believe
a
couple
others,
but
those
are
the
two
major
ones
on
their
website.
They
actually
have
literal
lists
of
things
they
need,
so
it
makes
it
easy
for
the
public
to
see.
This
is
what
the
needs
are.
This
is
how
you
give
them
donate
them.
This
is
where
to
go.
C
I
I
The
Briefing
will
go
like
this
I'm
just
going
to
provide
this
background,
and
then
we
will
ask
the
administrative
staff
Blake
and
Tammy
to
go
over
the
RFP
and
disposition
strategy
from
there.
We'll
also
talk
about
there's
a
few
policy
questions
in
there
we're
looking
for
guidance
from
the
council
and
then
we
will
go
to
the
zoning
Amendment,
specifically
where
Daniel
and
Nick
will
come
back
up
and
they'll
each
provide
a
summary
of
those
items
at
that
point
and
then
we'll
go
over
the
policy
questions.
I
So
the
background
is
just
intended
to
reorient
us
how
we
got
here
and
for
anybody
in
the
public
who's
listening
just
so
that
you
know
where
we're
at
so
until
2010,
most
of
the
fleet
block,
which
is
located
between
300
and
400
West
and
800
900
South
was
utilized
by
the
city
to
manage
its
vehicle
Fleet
after
the
fleet
function
was
moved
to
a
facility
further
west.
The
city
conducted
due
diligence
and
very
studies
prepare
the
property
for
redevelopment
in
2019.
I
A
zoning
amendment
was
initiated
to
create
a
new
Zone
titled
form-based
Urban
neighborhood,
3
and
Teresa
on
the
fleet
block
to
fbun
3.,
the
fleet
block
property
became
a
focal
point
of
community
expression
and
interest
during
the
summer
of
2020
admits
calls
for
social
justice
and
reform
for
police
practices.
In
Fall
of
2020,
the
council
held
a
series
of
briefings
and
public
hearings
pertaining
to
those
zoning
amendments.
I
Many
residents
and
constituents
spoke
during
those
meetings
and
covered
a
variety
of
topics
due
to
the
public
comment.
Provided
that
time,
the
council
decided
additional
meaningful
public
Outreach
was
needed
to
help
identify
the
vision
for
Fleet
block
and
to
Define
what
public
benefits
could
look
like
before
Redevelopment
and
Zoning
decisions
were
made,
the
council
decided
to
postpone
considering
the
zoning
amendments
until
a
plan
to
conduct
this
additional
Outreach
was
agreed
upon.
I
At
that
time,
the
council
expressed
General
support
for
the
zoning
amendments,
however,
felt
enhanced
focus
on
the
Block
and
additional
public
Outreach
was
needed
before
moving
forward
with
the
zoning
amendments.
The
council
wanted
to
have
an
opportunity
to
review
and
provide
input
on
the
administration's
future
planning
efforts
through
the
RFI,
which
was
discussed
in
April
of
this
year
and
for
the
city
to
hold
a
public
engagement
process
that
would
further
explore
the
vision
for
the
future
of
Fleet
block
Redevelopment
in
January
2020.
I
The
administration
issued
the
RFI
the
request
for
information
on
the
fleet
block
and
the
purpose
was
to
explore
options
available
to
the
city
to
develop
the
property
and
learn
from
prior
experiences
of
others
in
developing
complex
Urban
infill
projects,
and
to
assist
in
informing
the
city's
approach
to
developing
the
property.
In
April
this
year
the
administration
briefed
the
Council
on
the
fleet
block,
including
the
public
process
and
the
development
constraints.
I
J
Thanks
and
we
have
a
slide
deck
as
well,
if
we're
able
to
get
that
pulled
up
okay
good
afternoon,
Blake
Thomas,
director
communion
neighborhoods.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
a
fleet
block
update.
We
have
a
lot
to
update
you
on
and
we're
excited
about
the
future
of
this
city
property
and
how
it
can
contribute
to
The
Granary
District,
which,
as
you
know,
is
transitioning
from
a
historic
single
industrial
use
to
a
mix
of
uses.
So
this
conversation
is
happening
at
a
very
exciting
and
and
opportune
time.
J
Since
we
last
discussed
this
project
with
you,
several
things
have
occurred,
as
Nick
mentioned
earlier.
This
year
can
issued
a
request
for
information
or
RFI
we're
happy
to
report
that
we
had
12
respondents
that
provided
really
wonderful
insights
and
visioning,
that
included
ideas
surrounding
mixed
income,
housing,
mixed-use,
commercial
development
and
various
ownership
models,
Arts
sports
and
entertainment
elements
green
space
in
the
form
of
a
public
park
which
also
included
community
events.
That
would
activate
that
space,
walkability
and
connectivity.
J
So
there
was
submissions
that
talked
about
integrating
with
the
proposed
green
Loop,
the
Reconstruction
of
300
West
and
potential
Transit
expansions
that
our
local
link
study
is
getting
at
the
heart
at
we
utilize
the
information
and
feedback
provided
in
the
RFI
responses
to
then
convene
an
internal
technical
stakeholder
committee
with
an
invite
to
every
city
department,
and
we
especially
want
to
thank
Council
staff
and
council
member
mono
for
their
participation
with
that
group.
J
We
use
that
group
to
discuss
land
use
infrastructure,
environmental
remediation
and
many
other
technical
aspects
of
preparing
the
block
for
a
productive
future
use.
In
addition
to
the
technical
elements
extensive
community
outreach
was
conducted
that
was
led
by
Ashley
Cleveland
and
the
mayor's
office
that
went
from
June
2021
through
April
2022.
The
mayor's
office
worked
with
the
families
and
loved
ones
of
those
memorialized
by
the
murals
to
bring
together
art
therapy
and
grief.
J
J
In
the
ways
that
racial
injustices
have
limited
opportunities
for
marginalized
communities,
with
a
commitment
that
the
future
of
the
block
delivers
on
equity
and
inclusion
as
a
primary
consideration,
Ashley
I
know
is
available
if
there
are
further
questions
about
those
Outreach
efforts,
I
believe
remotely,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
to
her,
that
would
be
great,
if
not
I
would
welcome
turning
it
over
to
Tammy
to
get
into
our
presentation
to
talk
through
the
policy
questions
that
we're
seeking
your
guidance
on.
C
J
K
K
This
is
a
map
that
you
have
seen
several
times
a
map
of
the
city-owned
portion
of
Fleet
block.
It
is
8.75
acres
and
in
January
of
this
year
we
received
an
updated
appraisal
appraising
it
at
37.5
million
dollars.
That
does
not
consider
the
cost
that
will
need
to
be
allocated
to
environmental
remediation.
The
current
zoning
is
public
lands,
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
3
that
Daniel
and
Nick
are
here
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
later.
K
I
do
want
to
talk
about
the
April
briefing
and
what
we
heard
from
Council.
There
was
a
robust
discussion
and
the
Administration
very
much
took
away
your
comments
regarding
the
importance
of
equity
and
inclusion,
with
development,
development
of
the
block,
a
robust
public
engagement
process
and
also
involving
Partners
from
diverse
backgrounds
and
experience
levels.
K
So
the
administration
took
all
of
your
feedback
back
and
we
have
really
considered
ways
to
not
only
Infuse
Equity
into
the
resulting
development
through
affordable
commercial
space,
affordable
housing
and
public
space,
but
to
also
market
and
develop
the
property
in
a
way
that
is
more
accessible
to
an
inclusive
group
of
Partners.
Next
slide.
Please.
K
Before
we
get
into
our
strategy
for
moving
forward,
I
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
reimagine
nature.
It
has
been
adopted
since
the
last
time
we
were
here
and
there's
a
lot
of
policy
statements
in
reimagined
nature
relating
to
Fleet
block
the
most
significant
and
direct
is
the
call
for
a
new
park
in
The
Granary
District
on
fleet
block,
that
is
at
least
25
percent
of
the
block
or
three
acres,
and
that
park
space
shall
be
located
on
the
corner
next
slide.
Please.
K
This
is
also
a
map
out
of
reimagined
Nature,
and
it
calls
for
something
that
the
downtown
plan
calls
for
as
well,
which
is
a
green
Loop
surrounding
the
central
business
district,
and
the
map
in
reimagined
nature
has
that
green
Loop
bordering
Fleet
block
on
900
South.
So
you
can
see
where
Fleet
block
is
it's
called
out
there.
The
the
map
in
reimagined
nature
doesn't
identify
specifically
where
the
park
space
is
on
the
Block,
but
does
identify
that
fourth
of
the
block
should
be
dedicated
to
a
park
space
next
slide,
please
the
downtown
plan.
K
The
most
significant
call
out
of
Fleet
Block
in
the
downtown
plan
is
a
mid-block
connection
going
both
east
west
north
south
dividing
the
block
into
quadrants,
and
it
does
call
for
Fleet
block
demonstrating
the
best
of
Urban
Family
living
and
Industry.
The
mix
of
land
uses
once
thought
to
be
incompatible
and
improved
connections
that
focus
on
putting
people
first
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
when
we
briefed
you
last,
the
administration
didn't
have
a
defined
path
for
moving
forward
with
the
RFP
process.
We
were
still
analyzing
information
from
the
RFI
and
assessing
site
constraints,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
site
constraints
on
the
Block
and
those
site
constraints
that
could
be
more
conducive
for
a
master
developer
to
come
in
and
deal
with
those
comprehensively.
K
But
we
really
heard
from
you
and
agree
with
you
that
we
do
want
to
involve
development
partners
of
varying
scale
and
experience
levels,
and
so
we
went
back
and
looked
at
approach
to
divide
up
the
block
into
multiple
phase
development
chunks,
and
we
really
think
this
will
be
conducive
for
involving
multiple
development
teams
of
varying
skill
and
experience.
Next
slide.
Please.
K
So,
looking
more
specifically
at
a
way
the
block
could
be
divided
up.
This
is
hypothetical
we're
very
much
wanting
your
input
on
the
path
forward,
but
dividing
it
up
into
quadrants
could
look
like
this
with
four
different
development
sites
and
identifying
one
of
those
quadrants
for
the
the
public
space
with
the
mid-block
connections,
so
some
policy
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
the
mid-block
connections
that
are
called
for
in
the
master
plan.
K
Those
could
be
designated
before
the
RFP
process,
as
city-owned
public
streets
or
public
walkways,
but
the
if
that
were
to
happen,
then
the
capital
Improvement
cost
and
the
ongoing
maintenance
would
be
the
responsibility
of
the
city.
Another
approach
and
what
we've
kind
of
outlined
here
is
the
mid
blocks
could
be
divided
up
and
parceled
off
with
the
different
development
sites,
so
the
mid-block
connections
would
be
be
privately
owned
and
maintained,
but
with
a
public
easement
to
ensure
public
accessibility
in
perpetuity.
So
there's
two
different
approaches
there.
K
Maintaining
ownership
by
the
city
would
have
more
upfront
cost
placed
for
developing
the
infrastructure,
but
it
would
have
a
higher
level
of
public
assurance
and
a
public
control.
I
guess
and
then
having
it
owned
by
private
development
teams.
We
could
share
the
cost
of
ongoing
maintenance
and
negotiate
the
cost
of
public
improvements,
and
then
in
looking
at
the
city-owned
Park,
there
have
been
different
ideas
for
where
that
Park
could
be
located.
K
It
may
seem
natural
to
locate
it
on
900,
South
and
300
West
to
leverage
synergies
with
the
nine
Line
Trail
and
the
green
Loop,
that's
envisioned
through
reimagin
nature
and
the
downtown
plan.
So
that's
an
option.
Another
option
that
actually
came
up
in
one
of
the
internal
technical
committees
and
I
think
one
of
the
first
individuals
to
kind
of
initiate.
This
idea
was
council,
member
mono
I.
Don't
know
if
you
remember
that,
but
placing
the
the
park
space
on
300,
West
and
800
South
could
be.
K
Next
slide:
sorry
about
that
and
considering
the
land
value
if
the
space
is
divided
up,
as
was
just
indicated
on
the
last
slide.
Just
over
half
of
the
space
of
the
fleet
block
that's
currently,
City
owned
would
be
dedicated
for
public
use
for
the
park
space
and
the
mid-block,
so
that
would
leave
developable
area
of
4.1
Acres
with
a
land
value
of
17.5
million.
K
K
Another
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
another
consideration
for
the
location
of
the
park
space
is
the
alcohol
buffer.
That
is
part
of
Utah
law.
K
C
L
Model
thanks
Tammy
is
that
either
200
or
300
feet
walking
or
both
both
with.
K
M
L
Would
be
in
that
is,
does
that
allow
for
them
to
continue
operating
as
they
are,
or
could
they
potentially
expand
their
footprint
within
the
same
location
but
operate
under
the
same
liquor
license?
Do
we
know
that
answer
I.
K
O
On
the
when
we
talked
about
reimagined
nature,
it
said
25
or
three
acres,
so
there
is
some
wiggle
room
there,
because
25
of
8.75
is
a
little
bit
less
right.
Are
we
just
saying
this?
Is
the
most
likely
best
place
for
it,
or
are
we
kind
of
committed
to
that.
K
We
are
not
committed
to
that
fully.
We
are
wanting
council's
input.
The
maybe
Katie
can
weigh
in
on
in
on
this
as
well,
but
it
seems
like
the
siding
of
a
public
park.
Kind
of
is
both
administrative
in
some
ways
and
legislative
in
some
ways
in
that
it
will
take
dedicating
that
land
as
public
space
and
perpetuity
and
with
that
goes
on,
comes
ongoing.
Maintenance
costs
would
that
be
correct.
Katie.
P
O
C
Be
there
correct,
yeah,
but
we're
I'm
I'm,
proposing
I
I,
like
the
idea
of
basically
when
you
bring
up
the
the
pie,
chart
the
previous
slide
up
your
slide
head
and
that
one
right
there
really
basically
three
and
a
half
x
3.6
with
park
space
1.1
of
the
mid
box.
So
almost
half
of
it
is
open
I'm,
going
to
call
that
open,
Green,
Space
I'm
not
going
to
call
it
a
park
open
Green
Space
for
that.
But
we
can
also
kind
of
the
policy
idea
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
northeast
corner.
C
We
could
make
it
contiguous
in
closer
to
the
nine
line
and
then
maybe
have
a
another
different
think
outside
the
box.
As
far
as
the
murals
are
concerned,
where
those
goes,
how
the
how
that
flows
into
the
whole
development
of
the
of
the
fleet
block,
but
I
I'm
more
of
the
opinion
to
have
this
a
good
connection
from
the
nine
line
into
the
area,
with
an
open
space
flowing
into
the
into
the
area.
That's
just
my
thoughts
on
that.
J
L
Think
the
more
I've
thought
about
it
and
thank
you
for
bringing
taking
what
I
said
in
that
meeting
to
heart.
But
the
more
I
think
about
I
do
think
that
the
connection
to
the
nine
line
is
quite
important,
so
I
I
can
see
both
and
I
I
think
I
I
would
feel
like
it
would
be
a
really
lost
opportunity
to
not
connect
it
to
the
nine
line
that
we've
invested
so
much
in,
but.
L
N
Actually,
I'm
the
opposite
of
that.
Of
course,
why
wouldn't
I
be,
but
I
I
really
actually
appreciate
it
being
on
that
eight
West,
300
or
visa
versa,
8
South,
300
West
corner
for
the
exact
reasons
that
were
brought
up.
N
We
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
sincerity
into
that
that
mural
block
area
and
I
think
that
two
things
one
I
appreciate
that
if
we're
looking
at
reimagined
nature
and
and
that
was
adopted
and
we're
kind
of
trying
to
stick
to
that,
the
same
should
go
with
what
the
efforts
we
put
in
in
trying
to
have
that
robust
and
and
sincere
public
engagement
goes
right.
And
so,
if
we
look
at
the
reimagined
nature
and
say
well,
this
car
calls
for
a
park
and
we
kind
of
think
that
it
should
be
about
this
much.
N
Then,
let's
do
what
we
adopted
and
say
it
right,
which
is
that
and
even
though
it's
going
to
cost
us
a
lot
of
money
and
I,
don't
want
to
talk
about
that
right
now,
but
I'm,
just
pretending
like
we
have
it
all,
but
then.
N
But
we're
going
to
change
it
because
it's,
but
if
it's
better
over
here
I
think
we
lose,
we
lose
our
credibility
of
of
who
we
are
is
trying
to
engage
and,
and
so
the
connection
is
one
thing
and
I
I
get
that,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
there
are
really
smart
people
in
the
room
and
there's
probably
really
great
people.
That
will
want
to
develop
some
of
this,
that
that
can
figure
out
other
connections
or
other
ways
but
I
think
from
a
city
standpoint.
We
should
stick
to
what
we
said.
We.
N
What
came
out
of
those
conversations,
and
what
comes
out
of
those
conversations
is
that
this
area
is
incredibly
important
to
the
community
and
and
and
symbolizes
something
more
than
open
space
right
and
what
we
heard
through
Community.
What
we
heard
through
all
of
the
work
that
that
Ashley
Cleveland
did
with
the
community
is
that
this
was
a
place
of
healing
it
was
a
place
of
of
community
of
togetherness
and,
and
that
is
what
we
should
continue
to
have,
that
corner
be.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I,
respect
that
opinion
on
making
that
a
corner,
I
just
I'm,
also
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
connection
to
the
nine
line,
because
that
is
a
draw
and
to
bring
those
people
into
that
block.
There.
F
C
Yes,
we
need
to
really
respect
the
the
the
historic
preservation
of
the
the
corner.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
draw
from
the
the
south
side
and
I
don't
want
3.6
Acres,
spread
out
in
little
chunks
of
green
spots
throughout
the
area
that
doesn't
really
have
any
connection
to
it.
C
As
to
the
question
about
the
mid
block
walkways,
I'd
like
to
have
as
much
control
because
I
like
to
be
able
to
make
them,
you
know,
keep
them
closed
off
to
traffic
if
we
can
at
most
times
Festival
walking
so
that
it's
makes
it
more
of
a
walkable
area
instead
of
having
cars
drive
through
there.
So
more
of
a
let's
start
with
that,
instead
of
having
them
for
streets
and
then
trying
to
go
backwards
and
I
I
look
lean
more
towards
us
owning
them.
C
So
then
we
can
control
them
and
keep
them
clean
and
then
also
we
have
it.
It's
pretty
much
divided
nicely
into
four.
Even
chunks
seems
like
maybe
that
four
blocks
is
divided,
not
just
in
even
four
squares
for
smaller
squares
I
mean
conceptually
looking
at
that.
C
N
This,
but
since
we're
you
know
jumping
in
if
we
were
to
go
to
that
slide,
that
showed
kind
of
the
phase.
One
phase
two
phase
three
I-
don't
know
which
slide
that
was,
but
it
seems
that
each
of
those
rfps
sort
of
have
a
mid-block
walkway
kind
of
attached
to
them.
So
within
the
RFP,
it's
there's
a
potential
for
each
of
those
sort
of
phased
areas
that
we
include
a
public-private
partnership
where,
because
I
I,
of
course,
love
the
mid-block
walkway
I
think
it's
necessary.
We
should
have
it.
N
That
would
be
awesome
and
we
have
seen
it
happen
in
other
areas
or
the
potential
of
it
happening
in
other
areas
within
the
city
while
still
having
a
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
some
control
that
the
public
can
have
of
how
what
the
access
to
that
is,
but
we
can
sort
of
Define
that
within
the
RFP
itself,
right
right.
K
Yeah,
the
idea
would
be
to
develop
design
standards
to
create
uniformity
and
cohesiveness
across
the
different
mid-block
connections
and
then
have
a
requirement
that
the
development
teams
work
with
the
city.
So
the
city
would
approve
the
final
design
if
they're,
privately
owned
and
maintained
and
doing
it.
That
way
also
provides
a
benefit
because
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
with
City
or
RDA
owned
property,
it's
been
a
challenge,
developing
large
swaths
of
property,
because
a
lot
of
times
the
infrastructure
commitment
is
needed
before
the
development
can
go
forward
with
access.
K
And
so,
if,
if
it's
privately
owned
and
maintained
with
the
public
easement,
that
burden
is
pushed
off
onto
the
development
team
somewhat.
There
would
probably
be
a
discussion
on
concessions
on
either
the
land
lease
or
the
land,
since
there
would
be
a
public
easement,
but
it
would
be
put
off
on
the
development
team
and.
N
A
quick
follow-up
with
that
with
the
easement
would
is
there
room
for
negotiation.
I
guess
this
is
more
of
like
a
legal-ish
thing
of
saying:
you
have
to
keep
it
open
from
X
hours
to
X
hours
or
yes,
yes,
so
we
could
negotiate
that
as
well
of
like
what
that
easement
itself
looks
like
as
access
to
the
public
and.
K
There
would
be
some
sort
of
restrictive
use,
agreement
or
maintenance
agreement
or
that
may
be
laid
out
in
the
easement,
but
there
would
be
maintenance
requirements
laid
out
as
well
and
then,
with
the
park,
space
I
was
going
to
add
that
we
are
planning
and
the
administration
cohesively
with
parks
and
with
the
mayor's
office
and
with
can
and
with
the
Arts
Council,
have
been
talking
about
engaging
in
a
robust
community
outreach
process.
As
soon
as
we
kind
of
locate
agree
on
where
the
park
space
should
be.
K
But
we
really
want
this
to
be
a
Grassroots
Community
Driven
process,
and
we
anticipate
that
the
community
outreach
in
the
public
space
and
the
discussion
with
the
community
won't
just
include
the
park
space
but
will
include
those
mid-block
connections.
So
there
can
be
common
Design
Elements
art
elements.
J
That
would
be
I
was
going
to
put
an
emphasis
on
that
with
the
design
standards
to
those
concerns
about
the
connectivity
from
night
South
we've
talked
with
our
transportation
team
about
that
and
part
of
reimagined
nature
kind
of
talks
about
these
fingers
that
get
you
into
a
block
or
into
a
green
space.
So
I
think
there's
a
entry
point
on
your
protected
third
West
bike
lane,
as
well
as
integrating
with
the
green
loops
and
having
it
be
kind
of
a
natural
instinctive
Nexus
into
the
block
with
our
standards
providing
such.
L
That's
my
mono
thanks
I
know
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
weeds
and
we're
probably
stepping
into
administrative
territory,
but
I
I
just
want
to
throw
out
two
things
unrelated
one
I
I
also
could
see
it
being
successful
to
have
some
Park
on
night
South
that
activates
the
nine
Line
Trail,
but
also
like
a
plaza
public.
You
know
a
public
Plaza,
so
two,
maybe
two
separate
destinations.
Maybe
it's
like
George
Floyd,
Plaza
or
something
on
8th
South
and
then
the
fleet
Block
Park
on
9th
south
or
something
like
I
think.
L
Maybe
we
can
achieve
both.
Maybe
there's
some
other
way.
I
think
I
would
want
public
lands
to
sort
of
check
that
thought
and
let
us
know
if
they
think
two
smaller
Parks
gives
as
much
benefit
to
a
neighborhood
as
one
larger
park
or
how
that
could
help
then
unrelated
to
that
but
kind
of
to
the
public,
plazas
I
think
just
there's
other
prop
private
property
owners
that
have
are
asking
the
city
to
buy
part
of
the
public
right-of-way
from
them
from
us,
but
still
willing
to
give
a
public
easement
on
that.
L
So
I'm
not
sure
that
having
that
included
in
the
RFI
actually
reduces
the
land
value
or
the
the
desire
I
think
it
may
actually
enhance
the
desire
for
prep
private
developers
to
like
be
involved
in
that,
because
that
gives
them
a
benefit
as
well,
because
they
can
control
the
access
to
that
at
certain
times
and
keep
it
open
to
the
public
at
other
times.
So
I
would
I
would
be
somewhat
hesitant
to
say
it's
reducing
the
land
value,
a
ton.
O
O
So
I'm
not
feeling
apprehensive
at
all
about
asking
anyone
who
wants
to
come
in
and
partner
here
about
being
an
exceptionally
good
partner
to
the
city,
whether
that's
maintaining
those
walkways
or
or
doing
what
you're
saying
like
yeah
like
I,
feel
like
this
is
a
really
good
deal
for
whoever
gets
to
come
in
and
partner
with
us
to
develop.
It.
N
O
N
Sorry,
something
was
brought
up
to
me
about
it.
Can
I
have
it?
Will
you
and
I
would
ask
Katie
to
explain
one
of
the
pros
of
the
city
of
the
city
continuing
to
own
the
mid-block
walkways.
P
Hi,
everyone
I
think
one
thing
to
remember:
when
the
city
owns
walkways
that
are
adjacent
to
our
Park
spaces,
they
are
considered
traditional
public
forums
and
the
public
retains
very
robust,
robust
First
Amendment
rights
on
traditional
public
forums
and
especially
in
a
property
like
this.
That
has
such
a
social
justice
and
Community
emphasis
to
it.
P
The
city
might
want
to
emphasize
public
ownership
and
robust
First
Amendment
rights
and
when
developers
own
or
control
access,
even
if
there's
a
public
easement
over
it
and
have
the
authority
to
close
and
open
those
walkways
that
can
reduce
the
First
Amendment
rights.
So
that
might
be
a
really
important
consideration.
O
J
I
reached
out
to
our
procurement
officer
before
this
meeting
and
I
was
told
that
the
the
default
RFP
score
sheet
has
elements
or
small
nods
to
equity
inclusion
in
it,
and
essentially
we're
able
to
weigh
that
as
a
significant
factor
to
help
rebalance
or
give
more
weight
to
them
the
score
sheets.
So
that's
a
commitment
that
we've
always
had,
which
is
we
would
go
above
and
beyond
the
kind
of
typical
equity
and
inclusion
components,
and
have
that
as
a
highly
weighted
consideration.
K
Yeah
and
we
will
develop
the
requirements
and
the
preferences
that
will
be
scored
in
the
in
the
rfps
I
would
I
just
want
to
touch
on
one
thing
that
Council
chair
Dugan,
mentioned
with
having
the
mid
blocks,
not
accessible
to
vehicles
and
I,
have
talked
preliminarily
with
the
transportation
division
on
this,
and
it
might
actually
behoove
Us
in
this
area
to
have
access
to
the
new
development
sites,
limited
vehicular
access
on
the
mid-blocks.
K
C
Absolutely
I
I'm
not
saying
we,
we
preclude
or
prohibit
any
vehicles,
but
we
have
the
access
with
bollards
or
whatever,
to
close
it
off
the
majority
of
time
to
Walkers,
and
you
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
to
to
make
it
all
Walkers.
So
it's
all
go
back
to
just
the
European
cities
where
there's
there
are
no
curbs
right,
it's
nice
and
flat,
and
it's
it's
more.
You
know
enjoyable
to
walk
on
it,
but,
yes,
the
delivery
trucks
can
skip
through
there.
Fire
trucks
can
get
through
there.
C
That's
that
is
allowed,
but
it
the
the
main
ax.
The
main
goal
is
to
have
it
pedestrian,
yeah
user
majority
of
time.
We.
J
C
C
H
What
I,
Envision
I
should
have
a
few
comments.
I'm
not
super
worried
about
like
I,
like
everything
that
has
been
said.
I
do
think
that
it
has
to
be
pedestrian
attractive,
like
it's
a
place
that
we
want,
like
I
would
like
to
go
walk.
H
You
know,
I'm,
saying
like
something:
that's
super
friendly
super
welcoming
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
we
can
prescribe
on
that
I'm
sure
the
designers
out
there
are
going
to
come
up
with
great
ideas,
but
if
they're
listening,
whoever
might
bid
for
this,
you
know
that's
something
that
it
would
be
really
really
cool
to
be.
This
very
transformational
block
I,
think
of
in
this
neighborhood
and
kind
of
complementary,
also
to
the
central
ninth
neighborhood,
which
is
also
very
welcoming
it's
very
at
The
Pedestrian
level.
H
All
of
the
good
things
that
has
happened
with
that
farm
based
in
the
central
ninth
so
other
than
that
I
think
I
am
very
supportive
of
what's
Happening
Here
things
are
looking
really
good.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
We.
H
Sorry,
one
more
thing:
sorry,
I
forgot
and
I
remembered
so
perhaps
when
we
think
about
the
meat
blog
walkways
or
or
driveways
as
Edison,
maybe
when
Maybe
in
terms
of
Maintenance
and
who's
going
to
take
care
of
this
and
who's
going
to
pay
for
it
and
all
of
the
things.
Maybe
maybe
we
could
provide
as
well
like
a
model
on
how
to
for
whoever
is
going
to
bid
on
how
to
integrate
this
into
their
budget
and
think
about
how
they're
going
to
organize
so
that
they
can
maintain
it
in
the
future.
H
So
so
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
world
and
how
does
the
SAA
work
and
all
the
things
like?
Okay,
here's
a
way
for
you
as
well
to
maintain
this.
If
you're
going
to
you
know
if
you're
going
to
take
part
of
it.
So
that's
it's
like
like
another
bonus
so
that
it
works
out
well
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
in
the
future.
J
L
K
Want
to
leave
plenty
of
time
for
Daniel
and
Nick,
so
I
will
just
close
by
saying:
there's
also
some
slides
in
there
about
environmental
contamination
and
all
I
will
will
say.
Is
it's
complex?
There's
different
contaminants,
different
areas,
we're
working
through
that
as
the
administration,
some
of
it's
in
the
groundwater,
some
of
it's
like
not
even
caused
by
the
city.
There
was
an
old
coal
yard
there
that
we
might
be
eligible
for
EPA
funding,
for
so
a
lot
of
it
will
depend
on
where
land
uses
are
placed.
K
The
cleanup
strategy-
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
is
we're
still
planning
on
equity
and
inclusion
elements
as
the
rfqp
process
moves
forward
with
the
selection
committee,
the
community
benefits
agreement
and
also
developing
metrics
and
outcomes.
So
we
can
make
sure
we
know
how
we're
measuring
success
and
how
we
know
if
we're
succeeding.
N
Just
a
quick
and
I'm
turning
to
staff
I
think
more
than
anyone,
and
maybe
you
guys
but
logistically
at
the
beginning
of
this
presentation,
Nick
sort
of
said,
oh
and
by
the
way
they
would
like
some
answers
to
these
policy
questions
and
we've
talked
about
all
of
them.
I'm
wondering
what
we
need
to
do
to
answer
these
policy
questions
that
have
been
presented.
I
think
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
the
kind
of
most
important
ones
are
about
the
park
and
the
mid-block
walkway.
Is
that
accurate?
N
J
E
N
I
O
C
So
I'll
just
go
back
to
your
idea
about
the
straw
poll.
Well,.
N
I
I'm
wondering
if,
because
I
know,
Darren
asked
a
question
of
parks
of
like
would
two
smaller
Parks
have
a
lesser
or
greater
or
no
impact
than
one
bigger,
Park
and
then
sort
of
the
pros
and
cons
versus
with
the
mid-block
walkways
and
the
Partnerships,
especially
in
light
of
the
sort
of
idea
of
the
First
Amendment
and
and
US
maintaining
ownership.
There
I
don't
know
if
we
have
answers
to
those
now
or
if
we
come
back
with
some
of
that
and
then
give
more
Direction.
I
would
leave
that
to
the
chair,
but
and.
C
That
I'm
thinking
that
we
didn't
really
have
a
full
consensus
here,
but
we
I
think
we
have
some
ideas
that
we
would
like
to
explore.
Some
more
options
explore
the
mid-box
stuff,
the
parks
that
explore
that
a
little
bit
more.
But
here's
what
we're
thinking
because
I
do
know
we
we
do
want
to
touch
on
the
fbn
3
discussion
with
probably
Daniel
right,
yeah.
Okay,
let's.
D
C
J
R
I,
just
don't
want
to
repeat
things
that
I
think
Tammy
already
covered
pretty
well,
so
I
think
the
council
has
all
seen
this
presentation
before,
but
it
has
been
two
years
I
think
since
some
of
the
councils
seen
this
so
I
just
want
to
set
the
stage
for
Nick
tarpit's
policy
questions
and
then
so
I'll
just
get
right
into
it.
So,
two
years
ago,
planning
was
tasked
with
finding
a
Zone
for
this
for
the
fleet
block
that
would
support
high
quality
development,
pedestrian
oriented
development.
R
The
current
zoning
on
the
Block
is
public
lands
and
General
commercial.
Both
of
those
zones
really
don't
have
any
pedestrian
oriented
requirements
for
any
development,
so
it
doesn't
do
a
great
job
with
getting
that
sort
of
development.
So
we
looked
at
surrounding
properties.
We
have
the
D2
downtown
Zone.
An
issue
with
that
is
it
allows
car
sales
lots,
it
doesn't
allow
Town
Homes
CG
had
no
design
standards,
so
it
didn't
make
sense
to
map
that
to
the
entire
block,
and
then
we
had
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
2
on
the
east
side
of
the
fleet
block.
R
It
generally
has
pedestrian
oriented
development
standards,
but
it
is
a
lower
scale
and
the
downtown
plan
does
does
call
for
a
mid-rise
sort
of
development
for
this
block
So.
Based
on
that,
we
are
proposing
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
3
Zone.
It
builds
on
that
framework
of
the
form-based
urban
neighborhood
2
Zone
in
central
ninth.
It
allows
for
those
mid-rise
Heights
with
that
density
and
intensity
to
support
an
active
Urban
neighborhood.
It
has
design
controls
so
that
we
get
a
high
quality
appearance.
R
F
I'm
so
used
to
controlling
the
computer
Planning
Commission.
Can
we
go
to
the
next
one.
R
All
right,
so
we
have
two
building
types
in
this
form-based
code:
that's
the
row
house
building
type
and
that's
because
the
downtown
plan
calls
for
Town
Home
Style
development
in
this
area,
and
then
we
have
the
vertical
mixed-use,
multi-family
and
storefront
building
form,
there's
a
generally
kind
of
the
same
building
form
same
sort
of
scale,
and
that's
because
the
downtown
plan
calls
for
mixed
use.
Active
Urban,
mid-rise,
scale
development.
R
So
each
of
those
building
forms
is
regulated
differently
for
the
row
house.
This
has
the
lowest
height
allowances
of
the
zone.
You
can
go
up
to
40
feet,
which
is
about
three
to
four
stories
for
a
row.
House
has
limited
setbacks,
but
it
does
still
let
you
scoot
that
residential
dwelling
a
little
bit
away
from
the
street
for
some
level
of
privacy
at
10
feet,
and
then
there
is
a
open
space
requirement
per
row
home.
R
R
So
the
other
form
is
that
vertical
mixed
use,
multi-family
storefront,
building
form
this
allows
the
highest
level
of
development
at
125
feet
of
maximum
height.
Anything
over
the
85
foot
level
would
require
the
go
through
design
review,
which
would
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
ensure
that
even
the
larger
scale
building
has
that
pedestrian
engagement
that
we
want
a
key
thing
here
is
that
this
would
require
14
foot
tall
ground
floor
Heights
to
support
long-term
commercial
use
of
those
spaces.
A
shorter
ceiling
Heights
on
the
ground
floor
really
aren't
conducive
to
retail
or
restaurant
uses.
R
R
So
another
key
requirement
is
a
form-based
zone.
Are
the
design
standards?
There
are
a
number
of
design
standards
to
start
with.
There's
entry,
entryway
requirements,
particular
porch
or
patio
design
features
there's
ground
floor
use
requirements.
We
just
don't
have
parking
on
the
ground
floor.
They're
glass
minimums
blank
wall
limits.
The
list
goes
on
for
a
bit,
but
just
know
that
the
form-based
code,
all
of
those
design
standards,
apply
to
any
development
to
ensure
that
we
get
a
high
quality
of
pedestrian-oriented
development.
R
So
another
key
thing
in
this
zone
is
the
wide
range
of
land
use
is
allowed,
and
the
intent
here
is
that
the
design
standards
would
actually
limit
any
negative
impacts
from
some
of
these
uses,
so
the
lowest
intensity.
We
have
Town
Homes,
multi-family
residential
parks
and
plazas
middle
intensity,
bars,
restaurants,
office
and
Retail,
and
then
for
the
highest
intensity,
which
is
a
little
bit
reflective
of
The
Granary
uses
that
we
have
now.
We
have
breweries
commercial
food
preparation,
Industrial
Assembly,
which
kind
of
those
maker
spaces
and
some
light
manufacturing.
R
Another
key
thing
here
is
that
we
wouldn't
allow
things
like
warehouse
and
storage
uses
right
along
the
sidewalk
because
they
don't
have
that
pedestrian
engagement.
So
we
have
controls
in
this
Zone
to
prevent
them,
and
then
the
other
key
components
of
the
zone
are
parking,
streetscape
and
sign
regulations
for
parking
location
limits.
We
don't
want
parking
in
front
of
the
building,
so
they
are
required
to
be
next
slide.
Please.
R
R
Mid-Block
walkways
key
thing
here
are
required
when
shown
on
our
downtown
master
plan
and
they
do
cross
the
fleet
block,
as
shown
in
this
little
diagram
from
the
downtown
plan
regulations.
These
really
mirror
our
downtown
zones.
So
a
little
bit
larger
than
our
Suburban
sign
requirements
in
other
zones
parking,
no
minimum
parking
is
required.
The
key
thing
here
is
that
a
track
stop
is
just
one
block
east
of
the
fleet
block.
R
R
So
we
have
the
nine
Line
Trail
along
900
South,
and
we
do
want
to
see
a
higher
level
engagement
along
that
nine
line.
So
the
requirement
here
would
be
for
things
like
retail
restaurants,
bars,
art
galleries,
similar
High
activity,
uses
required
along
that
nine
Line
Trail,
rather
than
residential
units,
and
really
that
is
to
ensure
that
high
high
engagement
with
the
nine
line.
R
Another
key
component
is
that
this
allows
for
Row
House
lots
that
don't
directly
face
the
street.
This
was
kind
of
a
key
change
from
the
rmf-30
changes.
It
allows
a
row
home
that
isn't
directly
next
to
the
street,
but
maybe
along
the
driveway
shared
by
the
row
home
residents
to
carve
that
out
and
sell
it
as
an
individually
owned
row
home
rather
than
just
required
to
be
a
rental.
R
And
then
beyond
that
we
are
doing
some
clarifications
of
the
form-based
code
just
to
reduce
any
code
conflicts
with
this
new
Zone
and
the
existing
form-based
zones.
So
I
think
that
covers
my
presentation.
I
hope
that,
hopefully,
that
sets
the
stage
for
Nick
tarpet's
policy
question.
Can
you
believe
councilmano
I'm.
L
So
sorry,
it's
a
zoning
question,
so
there's
two
building
forms
that
are
allowed
in
form
base
three
they're
vastly
different
in
height
I'm,
trying
to
understand
what
would
ever
incentivize
the
developer
to
develop
townhouses
instead
of
the
mixed
use.
That's
like
three
times
taller
than
that!
Is
it
because
if,
if
you
don't
include
commercial
spaces,
then
you
cannot
build
to
the
higher
form
or
no
I,
guess
the
good.
You
just
have
to
do
14
foot
tall
ground
floors
so
that
it
could,
theoretically,
in
the
future,
turn
into
commercials.
R
L
S
C
Is
any
of
this
for
sales
at
all
for
rent,
or
at
least
because
it.
R
S
This
is
a
little
bit
different
in
the
when
they're
front
and
back
so
there's
multiple
buildings,
maybe
that
second
building
doesn't
have
Frontage
on
the
street,
but
we
so
the
slot
home
is
basically
a
sideways
oriented
row
house
or
townhome,
and
because
of
our
the
nature
of
our
really
deep
lots,
a
lot
of
our
Lots
would
not
be
able
to
produce
any
kind
of
density
because
of
the
other
restrictions
on
it
without
that,
and
so
what
we've
done
in
our
code
is
we've
added
a
lot
of
restrictions
that
are
requirements
that
that
street
facing
unit
has
a
higher
level
of
requirement
than
the
rest
of
them.
S
So
it
still
achieves
that
that
engagement,
whereas
a
lot
of
slot
homes
around
the
country-
and
we
have
some
in
Salt
Lake
that,
prior
to
some
of
these
regulations
going
in
place,
really
it's
a
blank
wall
with
some
really
small
Windows
on
it,
and
there
really
is
no
Street
engagement
and
that's
one
of
our
goals
of
all
of
our
zoning
districts
is
to
do
that.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
J
M
H
M
S
That's
that's
something
so
if
all
of
the
units
are
oriented
towards
the
street,
you
each
unit
would
have
to
have
the
certain
requirements
for
entrance
glass.
Etc,
okay,
you'd
see
that
for
every
unit.
Okay,
where
you
may
not
see
something
is
when
that
building
is
rotated
to
the
side.
Okay,
so
it's
turned
90
degrees,
so
the
units
go
back
in
the
depth
of
the
lot
instead
of
along
the
street
and
those
what
you
would
see
from
the
street
is
mostly
that
first
unit
and
that's
what
we
focus
on
in
that.
A
S
You
don't
neces,
there
is
a
walkway
that
goes
between
them
to
get
to
the
back,
but
you
don't
necessarily
see
the
rear
building,
but
it's
an
it
allows
more
of
that
lot
to
be
productive
from
a
housing
perspective
for
that
housing
type
without
having
to
go
through
a
process
that
is
essentially
going
to
approve
that
project
anyway.
Okay,.
C
No
I
was
just
talking
about
so
form
best.
Three.
We
haven't
addressed
that
here
as
a
council,
yet
correct,
correct,
that's
right
and
but
we're
we
want
to
incorporate
it
into
the
fleet
block.
R
R
Potentially
other
areas
of
The,
Granary
yeah,
some
of
the
regulations
here
were
geared
toward
expanding
it
to
other
areas
of
The
Granary,
particularly
the
list
of
allowed
land
uses,
because
we
know
we
have
those
sort
of
light
industrial,
maybe
maker
space
kind
of
uses
in
The
Granary
that
we
don't
want
to
zone
out.
So.
L
Do
that
so
thanks
I
think,
similarly
to
that,
but
I
think
the
goal
that
maybe
just
to
refine
that
would
be
adopt
the
Zone
into
our
code,
but
not
map
it
to
the
fleet
block.
Yet
until
we
have
the
the
land
distribution,
RFP
discussions
all
ironed
out,
but
then
other
property
owners
in
The
Granary
area,
for
whom
this
may
be
a
perfect
Zone,
it's
at
least
written
in
our
code,
and
they
can
then
apply
for
it
as
a
rezone.
L
That's
assuming
we
aren't
yet
ready
to
do
them
all
I
think
it
made
sense
in
2020
or
2019,
maybe
to
package
them
all
together.
But
at
this
point
we
have
this
Zone.
That
staff
has
written.
That
I
think
really
does
make
sense
for
the
fleet
block,
but
no
developers
have
been
able
to
apply
for
it,
so
I
I
would
suggest
we
adopt
the
The
Zone
language
into
our
ordinance,
but
not
map.
It
anywhere.
Is
that
possible.
S
S
Yeah
and
we
do
plan
on
utilizing
a
combination
of
all
three
of
the
fbun
zones
in
other
parts
of
the
city
to
implement
other
adopted
plans,
including
one
that's
we're
just
starting,
which
is
along
the
three.
The
rest
of
the
300
West
Corridor,
not
south
of
900
South.
So
having
the
code
in
place,
makes
that
a
lot
easier
for
us
as
we
go
out
and
do
that
engagement
and
talk
to
people.
L
I
N
Remember
obviously
remember
there
was
a
lot
of
pushback
on
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons
when
we
were
having
Fleet
discussions,
but
some
of
it
was
very
tied
to
this
particular
Zone
and
and
things
that
people
didn't
like
about
it
for
one
reason
or
another
and
I
feel
like
I
sort
of
need
to
remember
some
of
those
and
I
to
Darren's
point
I,
don't
think
I'm
ready
to
to
tie
it
to
anything
and
I.
N
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
I'm
sure
we
can
put
this
in
there
I
feel
like
I,
remember
having
some
pushback
I
may
be
okay
with
it.
I
just
feel
like
I
need
to
remember
what
that
pushback
was
and
then
come
back
with
this
and
and
I
don't
want
to
delay
it
longer
than
it
needs
to
be
at
all.
I
just
feel
like
I
need
to
remember
some
of
that.
Does
that
make
sense?
I,
don't
want
to
just
Mumble,
but
I
do
sometimes.
N
L
I
Okay,
so
we
do
have
some
policy
questions
if
you
have
the
time
for
it.
Yes,
we
do
and
we'll
be
quick,
somehow
we'll
be
very
quick
about
this.
I
promise,
no
I'm
hopeful,
I'm
hopeful.
If
you
want
on
page
nine
of
the
staff
report,
is
kind
of
where
these
are
all
listed.
If
you
want
to
follow
along-
and
some
of
these
I
think
we've
answered
through
the
discussions
today,
so
we
could
probably
be
able
to
blow
up
this
pretty
quickly.
I
So
the
first
one
there
was
the
Planning
Commission
sent
along
about
send
along
four
recommendations
for
the
council
to
consider
the
first
one
was
to
limit
lot
sizes.
They
were
concerned
that
the
Lots
would
be
too
large,
and
so
they
were
suggesting
that
they
could
be
broken
down
and
Daniel
and
Nick.
You
guys
can
step
in
and
clarify
anything
I'm
misrepresenting.
I
L
M
R
We
do
have,
we
do
have
a
control
already
in
place
and
that's
the
the
facade
length
limit,
so
it
it
hits
you
at
200
feet.
So
there
is
kind
of
a
default
already
limiting
the
size
of
development.
You
do
have
to
go
through
a
process
to
go
beyond
that
200
feet.
If
we
limited
the
lot
size,
there's
a
similar
process
that
someone
could
go
through
plan
development
to
also
modify
that
standard
kind
of
similar
standards
that
the
Planning
Commission
we
look
at.
So
we
could
do
both
lot
size
limit
and
facade
limit,
but
I.
R
C
S
L
S
No,
that
would
be
something
that
that
obviously
we'd
have
to
consider
as
when
we're
applying
a
zone.
For
example,
let's
just
say
that
there's
a
a
maximum
lot
size
of
one
acre
in
the
zone
and
we're
looking
to
apply
it
to
an
area
where
eighty
percent
of
the
lots
are
in
excess
of
that.
Does
that
really
make
it
feasible
regulation
to
apply
to
an
area
that
doesn't
meet
that
characteristic
to
begin
with?
So
those
are
the
things
that
we'd
have
to
look
at.
I
Details
on
that
sorry,
next
one
is
to
require
that
lots
have
Frontage
on
the
right-of-way
of
streets.
S
Just
for
a
record,
I
mean
if
that
provision
isn't
that
Dan
was
just
mentioned,
is
stricken
from
fbun
3.
Our
code
already
requires
Lots
Dev
Frontage
on
the
street,
unless
they're
approved
through
plan
development.
So
that's
already
a
requirement
in
our
code.
This
was
intended
to
relieve
some
of
the
reasons
why
some
plan
developments
go
through
that
process.
S
For
example,
they
could
build
it
as
multi.
They
could
build
a
town
home
project
as
multi-family,
basically
recorded
as
a
condominium
and
still
sell
the
units
and
There's
no
practical
reason
or
difference
between
that
versus
if
each
lot
or
each
townhome
was
on
its
own
lot,
whether
or
not
the
Lots
face
the
street
or
not
have
fronted
or
not.
So
it's
really
just
creating
a
procedural
issue
without
necessarily
producing
a
different
outcome.
R
L
T
S
Sure
on
on
this
particular
situation,
so
if
you,
if
you
were
to
picture
a
row
of
let's
just
say,
seven
town
homes,
they're
turned
sideways
in
zoning
districts
that
allow
either
that
allow
a
multi-family
use.
Those
are
typical
apartment
buildings
that
building
type
can
be
built
and
just
called
multi-family
without
having
it
be
classified
as
what
our
zoning
calls
single
family
attach,
which
is
commonly
referred
to
as
a
town
home
or
a
row
house
right.
It's
attached
single
units
that
all
face
each
other.
S
They
look
like
they're,
very
clearly
different
units,
I,
think
everybody
knows
when
they
see
that
what
we're
talking
about
the
issue
comes
up
is
when
somebody
wants
to
put
each
unit
on
its
own
lot.
The
building
doesn't
change,
it's
still
seven
units
they
still
have
common
walls
down
the
middle,
but
each
unit
is
on
its
own
tax.
Id
lot
right
technically
under
our
code,
you
can't
do
that
unless
you
get
plan
development
approval,
because
those
lots
do
not
have
their
specific
Frontage
on
a
street
they're
separated
by
other
Lots
and
so
there's
there's.
S
S
On
the
flip
side,
if
they
just
put
the
footprint
of
the
unit
on
its
own
lot
through
a
condominium
process,
which
is
a
legal
ownership
process,
that's
the
only
difference
they
can
do
that
without
having
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
so
the
issue
really
is
there's.
At
the
end
of
the
day.
There's
no
real
difference,
except
that
having
to
require
that
townhome
to
go
through
a
plan.
Development
does
discourage
somebody
from
basically
creating
lots
that
can
be
purchased
and
sold.
B
N
L
M
L
L
I
will
yes,
I'll.
Add
that
for
all
the
Urban
Design
and
Zoning
reasons
that
Nick
just
mentioned,
that's
true,
but
there
are
building
code
issues
and
the
way
that
land
like
real
estate
transaction
issues
that
make
Town
Homes
easier
to
do
and
easier
to
own
and
easier
to
sell.
So
it
just
allows
it.
C
I
A
U
S
I
think
I
think
the
idea
is,
that
is
that
they
felt
like
there
had
to
be
some
that
there
should
be
some
sort
of
public
process
for
them
to
for
future
owners
to
be
able
to
guarantee
they'd,
have
access
and
things
like
that
to
those
back
units,
but
that
that's
all
something
that's
taken
care
of
through
the
subdivision
process,
anyways,
and
so
it's
we
don't
share
that
same
concern
at
a
staff
level.
R
R
We've
we've
generally
addressed
that
concern
through
that
cap
on
how
many
parking
stalls
you
can
have
for
any
particular
use,
and
it
would
require
some
more
research
to
see
how
to
actually
limit
the
size
of
a
of
a
parking
lot
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
and
doesn't
you
know,
cut
off
the
ability
of
a
property
owner
to
have
enough
parking
that
they
need
for
a
particular
use.
R
C
L
M
L
C
So
I
think
we
we
stay
with
what
we
have
right
now.
As
far
as
the
off
the
maximum
parkings
from
the
parking
ordinance,
we
just
passed
yep.
R
C
S
That
there's
also
just
to
give
you
a
heads
up
with
the
downtown
building
Heights
project.
There
actually
are
some
Provisions
that
restrict
the
size
of
parking
lots
included
in
that,
so
you
will
see
that
coming
up
and
believe
it
or
not.
Both
the
fbun2,
at
least
the
fbun
2-
includes
some
changes
in
that
I.
I
So
we're
hearing
no
on
the
Planning
Commission
recommendation
on
that
one:
correct,
correct,
correct,
correct!
Thank
you!
Okay,
so
the
next
One
D
and
we're
halfway
through
so
we'll
pick
up.
Speed
sorry
require
mid-block
walkways,
but
allow
them
to
be
flexible
in
their
location.
This
one
appeared
to
be
specific
to
the
fleet
block
and
so
I
think
the
council's
answered
that,
with
the
previous
discussion,
I.
I
I
The
council
had
questions
about
whether
or
not
there
should
be
some
minimum
length
and
width
for
Open
Spaces
on
the
designated
properties
on
the
on
the
property.
So
if
I
recall
what
this
discussion
was,
there
was
concerns
that,
when
they
would
be
too
close,
the
Landscaping
my
phrase
in
this,
the.
N
N
I
W
R
Related
to
that
as
part
of
the
downtown
Heights
changes
that
we're
making
for
the
downtown
zones,
including
the
form-based
zones.
Overall,
we
are
setting
a
dimensional
limit
for
that
open
space,
so
it
can't
just
be
a
strip
of
of
open
space.
It
has
to
be
at
least
15
by
15
feet.
It
has
to
have
things
like
benches
trees,
other
amenities
in
that
space
was
actually
a
usable
open
space
so
and
that
has
been
transmitted
from
or
being
transmitted
from,
Planning
Commission
right
now,
and
it
should
be
here
soon
with
the
council.
Okay,.
S
M
S
So
that
gives
you
some
time
to
to
do
that
and
that
really
shouldn't
be
that
far
away
from
reaching
the
council.
So.
I
C
L
But
we're
talking
about
open
space.
That
is
a
requirement
in
a
lot
of
our
zones,
but
that's
not
publicly
accessible
open
space,
always
it's
often
privately
accessible,
open
space.
So
I
think
the
policy
question
is
still
valid
as
to
whether
we
consider
rooftop
open
space
to
count
towards
that
requirement
or
not,
but
I
think
it's
different
than
publicly
accessible,
and
my
understanding
is
that
formbase
3
has
proposed
does
not
require
any
private
property
owner
to
to
dedicate
publicly
accessible
open
space.
L
I
think
that'd
be
a
liability
issue
that
we
would
probably
run
into
so
so
I
think
it's
a
slightly
different
question
as
to
whether
it's
public
or
not,
because
this
is
not
intended
to
be
public
right.
This.
O
I
Change
is
necessary
and
one
last
one
there's
a
question
about
active
uses
on
300
West,
and
this
I
think
we
got
to
this
discussion
a
little
bit
earlier
with
the
14-foot
floors.
I
The
question
is:
does
the
council
support
asking
for
changes
that
would
provide
additional
options
to
encourage
High
activity
uses
along
300
West
at
the
time
there
was
concerns
that
that
was
more
or
less
could
potentially
be
like
the
back
side
of
the
development.
It
may
not
be
interacting
well
with
300
West.
L
I
remain
concerned
about
how
we
can
keep
more
active
public
uses
on
our
streets.
I,
don't
know
specifically,
if
I
wanted
to
be
as
specific
as
we
only
care
about
that
on
300
West.
L
G
L
L
M
S
L
Let
me
throw
something
out
there,
then.
Maybe,
since
in
the
zone,
there's
the
two
building
types,
one
is
the
townhouses
which
would
not
have
any
commercial.
Presumably
the
other
is
the
mixed-use
storefront
Urban
high-rise.
Whatever
thing,
if
the
developer
chooses
that
second
building
type
and
the
building
is
over
X
number
of
gross
square
feet,
then
it
must
be
used
as
commercial,
not
just
built
to
allow
conversion
into
commercial.
Is
that
would
that
be
an
easy
enough
thing
to
administer,
because
I
think
the
problem
is
smaller.
R
F
R
S
Ground
floor,
commercial
uses
versus
something
else,
and
that's
something
that
that
is
easier
to
apply
more
district-wide
than
to
specific
streets,
because
we
may
have
that
same
issue
on
other
areas.
And
maybe
if
we
have
a
big
huge
lot.
Maybe
it's?
Okay,
that
we
have
a
big
huge
Wide
building,
provided
some.
C
S
L
C
I
C
Council
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
short
break,
we're
going
to
take
our
we're
going
to
take
our
our
break
for
10
minutes.
Let's
come
back
at
355
and
then
we're
going
to
go
on
to
budget
management.
Four.
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
U
U
The
administration's
response
was
emailed
to
you
yesterday
at
4
44
pm.
In
summary,
the
annual
cost
is
fifty
two
hundred
dollars
and
half
of
that
is
for
electricity,
since
the
city
is
paying
for
the
charging,
not
the
vehicle
owner
and
the
other
half
is
for
ongoing
maintenance.
So
if
the
city
accepts
this
Grant
and
installs
those
EV
charging
stations
in
the
next
annual
budget,
you
would
have
a
request
built
in
to
increase
the
ongoing
utilities
budget
for
the
streets
division,
so
they
can
pay
for
the
electricity
and
the
sustainability.
U
Department
would
have
a
ongoing
request
for
higher
maintenance
funding,
so
they
can
take
care
of
the
EV
Chargers.
The
reason
this
is
urgent
is
the
deadline
from
Rocky
Mountain
Power.
To
accept
this
grant,
funding
is
before
the
council
is
scheduled
to
vote
on
the
budget
amendment.
So
the
administration
requested
a
straw
poll
to
see
if
you
support
accepting
the
grant.
C
I
straw
Paul
on
that
one.
Yes,
that
passes
five
to
yes,
5-0.
U
The
other
item
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
a
potential
new
Council
added
item.
This
would
be
I4.
The
city
applied
for
a
federal,
raise
Grant
to
study,
East-West
divide,
Transportation
Solutions.
Unfortunately,
the
application
was
not
awarded,
so
the
transportation
division
repackaged
it
and
submitted
it
for
a
different
Federal
grant
called
a
reconnecting
communities
pilot
Grant.
This
is
part
of
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
The
city's
local
match
for
the
first
grant
was
1.24
million
dollars
from
funding
our
future.
U
So
this
would
be
a
council
added
item
to
re-scope
that
1.24
million
for
this
new
Federal
Grant
application.
The
awards
are
expected
to
be
announced
early
next
year,
but
that
might
be
before
the
next
budget
amendment
is
voted
on
by
the
council.
So
for
the
timing
misalignment,
we
thought
you
could
add
it
to
this
budget.
Amendment.
C
N
U
C
N
U
Yes,
we
we
got
to
a
couple
other
urgent
items
that
I'll
skip
since
we
already
got
to
them.
Oh
man,
foreign,
don't
worry
staff
is
tracking
it.
U
So
A3
is
a
request
for
half
a
million
dollars
from
general
fund
balance
for
reconstructing
a
tennis
court
at
the
D
Glenn
Tennis
Center
after
the
March
2022
earthquake
court
number
seven
started
experiencing
cracking
and
buckling,
and
it's
not
currently
being
used.
It's
considered
unsafe,
repairing
it
is
possible,
but
it
would
likely
be
temporary
and
could
be
almost
as
expensive
as
reconstructing
the
court.
U
The
city
did
evaluate
using
our
property
insurance
for
covering
this
cost.
However,
it's
difficult
to
attribute
the
damage
from
the
earthquake
versus
concurrent
drainage
issues
and
since
the
damage
occurred
over
multiple
years,
you
can't
attribute
it
to
the
single
event
of
the
earthquake,
so
it
doesn't
look
like
that
would
be
an
option.
U
One
policy
question
is:
if
you'd
like
to
ask
the
administration
to
evaluate
tennis
court
reconstruction
needs
Citywide.
There
have
been
a
few
CIP
proposals
that
were
not
funded
in
recent
years.
For
other
tennis
court
reconstructions,
some
of
the
locations
were
in
Fair
Park,
West,
Point
and
Riverside.
U
U
Yes,
so,
unlike
the
earthquake
damage
to
say
this,
building
where
it
was
immediately
apparent
and
it's
easier
to
make
that
property
insurance
claim
the
damage
to
this
tennis
court,
the
buckling
and
the
cracking
it
got
worse
over
a
few
years
and
there
are
drainage
issues
that
are
believed
to
be
causing
it.
But
there
may
have
also
been
some
damage
by
the
earthquake,
but
untangling
the
causality
between
those
two.
It
looks
too
complex
to
make
an
easy,
direct
property
insurance
claim.
N
Okay,
well,
first
I
would
like
to
ask
Administration
to
look
at
all
of
the
tennis
courts
and
what
we're
doing
with
that
and
point
out
as
I
did
not
on
record
that
the
three
that
you
mentioned
are
that
were
not
being
repaired
or
on
the
west
side
and
all
of
the
CIP
money
that
we
gave
to
the
ones
to
be
repaired
and
including
now.
This
one
are
all
on
the
east
side.
U
U
The
position
would
centralize
purchasing
Contracting
and
other
Warehouse
functions
to
include
the
golf
Division
and
the
administration
is
recommending
this
approach
to
better
control
the
gulf
division's
use
of
these
functions.
Apparently
there
have
been
several
violations
in
the
last
year.
This
would
also
be
more
efficient
and
it
follows
the
approach
that
Golf
and
public
lands
use
for
an
existing
financial
analyst
where
50
percent
is
paid
for
by
the
gulf
fund.
The
other
50
percent
is
paid
for
by
public
lands.
U
U
The
overall
workload
for
the
warehouse
functions
has
been
increasing.
This
is
partly
because
of
the
staff
that
have
been
added,
as
well
as
the
programs
that
have
been
added
to
the
public
lands
Department.
U
The
policy
question,
as
you
might
guess,
is
whether
this
should
be
considered
in
the
annual
budget
versus
in
a
budget
amendment.
Since,
in
the
annual
budget,
the
council
gets
to
see
all
of
the
city's
competing
needs
and
available
funding
comprehensively,
and
unlike
a
budget
amendment
where
we
have
less
information.
N
I
recognize
there
sometimes
are
ftes
that
are
Urgent
or
we
need
something
or
there's
that
there
is
a
reason.
I,
just
I,
don't
see
that
in
any
of
these
ftes
and
want
to
continue
that
discussion
of
the
difference
between
what
I
believe
is
important
in
a
budget
amendment
again.
This
is
simply
my
thoughts
and
what
should
come
to
us
in
the
annual
budget.
T
There
was
a
conversation
where
the
administration
mentioned
that
they
were
going
to
put
some
ftes
into
the
budget
that
tied
to
the
passage
of
the
bond,
and
if
the
bond
did
not
pass,
they
would
withdraw
them,
but
they
were
relating
to
the
bond.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
might
be
some
here
that
they
would
tag
as
that
I
just
I,
just
don't
know
which
ones
are.
N
And
again,
I
appreciate
that
Cindy
and
I'm
certainly
not
saying
that
every
no
FTE
ever
should
ever
come
through
a
budget
amendment.
It's
simply,
and
we
went
through
a
lot
of
this
last
year
with
the
amount
of
ftes
that
we
added
through
budget
amendments
that
really
truly
seemed
like
they
could
have
just
come
through
the
annual
budget
that
there
wasn't
a
necessity.
There
wasn't
an
urgency.
There
wasn't
some
extenuating
circumstance.
That
said,
this
is
a
valuable
reason
to
add
this
to
a
budget
amendment
again
and
I
I
voiced
this
a
lot
last
year.
N
L
I
mean
I,
I,
don't
disagree,
and
so
I
guess
the
question
is:
which
ones
are
these
really
are
Urgent?
And
why
and
if
that's
something
that
that
can
be
explained
to
us,
then
I
I
would
probably
be
supportive
of
some
or
all
of
them.
But
I
think
to
your
point:
councilman
Fowler
I
agree
with
you
that
in
general,
I
would
prefer
them
in
the
annual
budget.
Z
Hi,
thank
you.
Kristen
Riker
public
lands
Department
director,
so
first,
if
I
can
just
make
a
correction
here
that
the
funding
we're
not
requesting
funding,
we
have
funding
in
our
budget,
it's
existing,
it
would
come
from
golf
and
it
would
come
from
public
lands
existing
savings
that
we
have
from
openings
in
our
in
our
budget.
Z
We
would
ask
for
that
funding
in
the
in
the
annual
budget,
we're
asking
for
an
FTE
to
start
mid-year
and
really
the
extenuating
circumstances
are
that
golf
right
now
is
doing
really
well
and
bringing
in
a
lot
of
money
and
which
is
awesome
and
and
so
they
are
putting
out
a
lot
more
requests
to
purchase
and
they
need
some
help
with
that
and
it's
it's
been
a
little
bit
overwhelming
and
we've
had
some
violations
and
we're
trying
to
stop
that
from
happening,
and
so
the
request
is
to
start
that
position
now
with
our
existing
funding
and
then
we
would
request
the
funding
in
the
annual
budget.
O
Z
AA
T
U
The
next
item
is
A5,
and
this
item
was
added
before
the
results
of
the
special
bond
election
were
known
and
are
scheduled
to
be
reviewed
and
certified
by
the
board
of
canvassers.
Later
today,
it's
4.3
million
dollars
from
Parks
impact
fees
for
additional
funding
for
the
Glendale
Regional
Park.
This
was
added
as
a
placeholder
in
the
event
that
the
Geo
Bond
did
not
pass.
J
U
O
U
So
previous
discussions
were
that
more
than
27
million
would
be
needed
for
everything
envisioned
there.
So
even
before
inflation
is
considered,
additional
funding
would
likely
be
needed.
The
council
did
approve
3.2
million
in
Park's
impact
fees,
but
there's
only
about
900
000
of
that
left
because
of
costs
that
weren't
foreseen
in
demolishing
and
remediating
part
of
the
site.
U
U
U
U
There
is
a
policy
question
under
an
item
further
below,
but
I
think
it's
applicable
here
as
well.
You
could
ask
the
administration
if
an
audit
of
CIP
would
be
helpful
to
determine
what
Staffing
and
other
resource
needs
would
improve.
The
CIP
process
you'll
see
later
in
here
a
request
for
three
ftes
related
to
the
Geo
bond
that
Cindy
referenced
and
I.
Think
that
is
getting
to
the
same
issue
of
where
would
adding
resources
to
CIP
be
most
helpful
for
the
city?
If
that's
something
you
wanted
to
look
further
into.
N
When
are
we
expecting
that,
hopefully
March.
N
Sure
foreign.
N
N
Y
U
U
This
does
include
a
pay
increase.
It's
from
pay
grade,
32
to
35..
The
annual
budget
impact
is
ten
thousand
dollars.
This
reclassification
was
contemplated
when
public
lands
was
putting
together
its
annual
budget,
so
they
included
that
ten
thousand
dollars
but
reclassifying
the
employee
wasn't
ready
to
proceed
at
that
time
since
HR
had
to
work
through
some
related
issues.
Those
have
been
resolved
and
that's
why
it's
included
in
this
budget.
Amendment
I
should
also
mention
that
the
city
has
an
appointed
employee
pay
plan
where
all
the
appointed
employees
are
listed
at
their
pay
grades.
U
U
U
O
C
O
O
U
U
There
has
been
a
surge
of
contracts.
There
are
two
charts
in
the
staff
report
and
in
the
trans
middle
that
show
this
increase.
It's
a
148
percent
increase
over
three
years.
So
in
fiscal
year
20
there
were
96
contracts
the
following
year.
This
jumped
up
to
197,
so
it
more
than
doubled
and
the
following
year
it
was
238.
U
This
is
being
caused
by
several
factors.
Some
of
it
is
the
influx
of
one-time,
Federal
funding.
So
the
cares
act.
Harpa,
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
which
is
a
five-year
funding
increase,
so
we'll
be
seeing
more
of
those,
it's
also
being
impacted
by
the
sales
tax,
Bond,
the
Geo
Bond,
increasing
the
city's
budget
and
the
number
of
programs
and
staff.
So
all
of
these
increases
result
in
more
contracts.
U
N
I
actually
am
curious
about
because
I
I
fully
recognize
the
last
two
years
and
what
Finance
has
the
hoops
and
the
things
that
finances
had
to
go
through
to
make
sure
that
we
get?
The
cares
act
that
we
get
arpa
funding,
that
we
get
the
infrastructure
dollars,
that
we
get
the
earthquake
money
and
all
of
the
things
and,
as
Ben
pointed
out,
you
know,
the
arpa
funding
is
to
be
spent
within
five
years,
2020.,
four
or
five.
N
Now
at
this
point
and
I
I've
just
am
wondering
like
do
we
anticipate
a
continued
increase
in
contracts
when
some
of
these
things
go
away,
not
not
that
we
couldn't
find
space
for
other
ftes
right,
but
when
it's
sort
of
something
we
started
asking
at
the
beginning,
when
we
were
receiving
cares,
funding
and
arpa
funding
was
we
know
that
some
of
these
positions
may
go
away?
Do
we
actually
have
the
ability
to
tell
somebody
to
see
you
later
thanks
for
being
here
for
five
years,
and
will
that
need
continue?
Do.
Y
You
think
so
we
can't
put
a
time
limit
on
it.
If
we
choose
is
what
I
would
say
and
and
I
can't
tell
you,
I
didn't
expect
it
to
be
like
this.
I
would
have
never
put
ftes
in
a
budget
amendment
because
that's
I,
don't
like
it
as
well,
but
so
I
would
have
never
expected
the
influx
of
contracts
right
now.
Y
The
procurement
official,
the
deputy,
the
person
that
the
contract
manager
and
then
two
contract
Specialists
they're
all
writing
contracts
right
now,
because
we
are
so
busy
and
I'll
give
you
an
example
is
I
asked
Chris
I
said:
give
me
how
many
contracts
you
have
outstanding
in
the
queue
he
said.
Okay,
so
he
gave
him
to
me.
There
was
40
next
Monday
there
was
57
and
I'm
like.
How
do
you
manage
this?
How
do
you
manage
this
with
really
three
staff
and
we
just
had
one
leave
so
now,
two
staff?
How
do
you
manage
that
right?
Y
N
Y
I
appreciate
that
risk
and
I
think
that
that's
part
of
this
as
well
right,
the
delay
of
supplies
is
also
he.
He
used
another
example
that
Ford
actually
has
once
a
year
three-day
window
to
order
our
vehicles,
so
we
have
to
pull
somebody
off
of
doing
anything
else,
and
all
they
do
is
order
for
those
three
days.
Y
They
can't
do
anything
else,
because
that's
the
only
time
Ford
will
allow
us
to
order
vehicles
so
they're
doing
some
interesting
things.
Thanks.
O
Y
U
So
these
are
one-time
funds
to
cover
tenant
improvements,
office,
furniture
supplies
as
well
as
some
parking
adjustments
at
one
of
the
substations.
The
ongoing
annual
budget
will
need
to
include
the
lease
and
utility
costs.
This
is
estimated
at
225
thousand
dollars
the
downtown
substation.
It
has
a
lease
for
10
years
and
it
would
be
used
by
the
central
Precinct,
so
the
Salt
Lake
City
police
department
has
three
precincts
and
this
would
relocate
the
central
Precinct
to
the
downtown
substation.
U
U
Earlier
this
year,
the
administration
assessed
all
of
the
city's
fire
stations
to
evaluate
workplace,
reasonable
accommodations
and
privacy
for
gender
equity.
Note
that
out
of
the
12
stations,
number
3
and
14
were
recently
reconstructed.
The
other
ten
are
much
older.
Some
of
them
are
from
the
70s
of
the
10
remaining
stations.
Half
of
them
were
found
to
need
minor
modifications
that
could
be
done
within
the
existing
budget
each
year
as
part
of
CIP
there's
funding
to
make
Minor
Adjustments
to
city-owned
buildings.
U
U
They
were
found
to
need
adjustments,
particularly
to
the
bathrooms,
the
showers
and
dorms.
So
this
funding
will
go
to
those
internal
reconfigurations
so
that
female
firefighters
have
more
privacy,
since
traditionally
it
was
a
male
dominated
profession
and
the
fire
stations
were
not
built
with
those
considerations
in
mind.
N
I
just
want
to
say
yay,
that's
all
I
I
we
went
and
toured
a
few
of
these
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
two
things
with
this.
One
is
that
the
the
recruitment
that
our
fire
department
and
I
know
our
police
department,
but
our
fire
department
is
doing
to
add
more
women
in
firefighters
is
awesome
and
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
women,
firefighters
within
the
slcfd
and
then
to
make
sure
that
there
are
adequate
accommodations,
that
people
feel
comfortable
in
their
space.
N
I
mean
firefighters,
are
there
for
48
hours
and
live
there
and
to
not
feel
comfortable
in
that
space
that
you
call
your
second
home
would
be
terrible.
So
I
I
really
commend
the
administration
for
this.
I
commend
the
fire
department
for
this
and
look
forward
to
more
tweaks
as
we
get
more
and
more
female
firefighters
on
in
our
department.
U
U
The
next
item
is
a11.
This
is
430
000
from
general
fund
balance
for
a
real
property
purchase.
This
was
previously
discussed
in
a
closed
session.
If
there
are
additional
questions,
it
could
be
handled
in
a
closed
session
or
you
can
send
a
staff
offline.
U
This
would
allow
the
department
to
address
an
existing
backlog
of
capital
Improvement
projects
in
public
lands,
as
well
as
to
get
to
the
new
Geo
Bond
funded
projects.
Sooner
sometimes
there's
a
tension
between
Bond
funded
projects
which
have
legal
deadlines
in
when
the
bond
funds
must
be
used
and
other
CIP
projects
which
are
not
subject
to
those
legal
spending
deadlines.
U
U
The
senior
project
manager
in
the
engineering
division
would
oversee
a
program
specific
to
the
Geo
Bond
funded
projects.
I,
don't
have
the
numbers
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
would
expect
engineering
to
say
a
similar
issue
exists
in
terms
of
how
many
projects
are
funded
but
not
complete.
This
is
where
the
idea
of
a
CIP
audit
came
in
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
C
O
Y
Then
we,
the
administration,
will
come
back
to
the
council
for
projects
and
the
dollar
amount
on
the
projects,
and
then
we
will
create
a
calendar
and
then
we'll
go
out
to
sell
the
bonds
and
once
the
bonds
have
been
sold,
then
we'll
come
back
for
a
budget
amendment
so
that
we
have
authority
to
spend
the
funds.
So.
O
Y
It
well
I'm
hoping
I
mean,
depending
on
how
fast
we
are
right.
I
know
that
that
was
something
that
councilmember
Wharton
wanted
was
to
move
this
Bond
quickly,
both
of
them
actually
so
I
mean
as
soon
as
we
as
soon
as
you
adopt
the
projects.
We
can
probably
get
it
done
within
two
to
three
months,
the
cell,
and
to
you
and.
Y
O
Z
So
I'll
speak
for
the
public
land
side
and
then
let
Jorge
speak
for
public
services,
so
the
public
land
site
is
the
public
lands
planners
and
they
will
be
doing
the
public,
Outreach
and
engagement,
and
so
that's
really.
The
first
step
for
us
is
acquiring
Consultants
working
with
a
Consultants
to
create
a
plan
just
like
we
did
for
the
Glendale
water
park
and
doing
that
Outreach
so
that
we
can
get
to
boots
on
the
ground
and
these
positions.
Z
It
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
to
hire
those
positions
and
then
go
through
this
entire
process.
And
so,
if
we
were
allowed
to
use
the
bond
fund,
we
would
use
Bond
funding
for
these
positions.
The
ongoing
cost
of
these
positions.
If
we're
allowed
to
hire
those
positions
as
soon
as
possible,
we
could
get
going
on
the
engagement
right
away
to
move
forward
with
those
projects
so
that
we
can
get
the
construction.
AB
AB
So
let
me
see
if
I
understand
the
question
when
you
say
build
the
park,
as
in
like
people,
are
our
trucks
moving
the
dirt?
No,
the
the
answer
is
no.
We
we
do
yeah,
we
put
well.
The
first
stage
is
conceptual
design.
Obviously,
and
then
construction
design
will
will
be
oversold
by
engineering.
Then
the
bid
package
goes
out.
We
get
a
a
firm
that
is
going
to
actually
build
it
right,
but
we
have
a
project
manager
that
is
is
continuously
engaging
that
construction
company,
as
well
as
all
the
stakeholders.
Z
Can
I
just
add,
too
that
if
we
wait
till
approved
funds
for
the
the
annual
the
year
July
1.,
we
would.
It
would
probably
take
us
at
least
two
months,
probably
three
to
do
that
hiring,
and
so
we
wouldn't
have
that
Engagement
start
for
probably
nine
months
it
would.
It
would
take
quite
a
bit
of
time
before
we
could
begin
any
of
the
bond
work.
N
Sorry
about
my
disruptive
leaving
of
the
the
meeting,
but
so
something
that
came
up
in
a
meeting
of
mine
and
I'm
kind
of
just
throwing
this
out
there
and
questions.
N
Is
that
and
I
I
recognize
that
we
need
these
at
least
project
managers
and
these
ftes,
but
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
and
I'm
looking
at
this
as
it
pertains
to
the
Geo
bond,
for
example,
is
that
and
in
this
mcip
things
and
it
sort
of
came
up
in
a
meeting
with
engineering
of
hiring
Consultants
that
know
that
they
have
like
this?
Is
your
project
and
you're
going
to
be
here
for
five
years
instead
of
hiring
city
employees?
N
To
do
this,
that
we
say
because
then,
once
we
hire
a
city
employee
to
do
it,
it's
not
after
five
years
that
we're
like
good
job,
see
you
later
right.
That's
always
the
discussion
that
that
we
have
with
like
the
grant
positions,
and
things
like
this
is
that
you
then
say
well
now
you're
a
city
employee,
and
we
don't
want
to
fire
somebody
or
tell
them
their
job.
Isn't
here,
but
Consultants
know
that
that's
their
like
scope
of
work?
Is
that
something
we're
looking
at
doing
with
the
Geo
bonds?
Z
Yeah
we
both
have
a
different
response
to
that,
because
we're
taking
a
little
bit
different
approach
so
with
public
lands,
these
will
be
provisional
positions,
so
they
are
tied
to
the
bond
funding
and
so
there
they
would
have
an
end
date
when
those
projects
end
and.
N
Z
With
public
lands,
we
we
for
large
projects,
such
as
the
bond
type
projects.
We
always
hire
a
consultant,
but
somebody
has
to
oversee
that
consultant.
Somebody
has
to
work
with
them
and
work
with
the
public
and
be
the
public
lands
liaison,
and
so
that's
basically,
what
our
two
planners
will
do
is
be
that
liaison
with
the
Consultants
to
do
all
those
surveys
and
engagement.
AB
And
it's
very
similar
for
engineering
and
yes,
the
the
process
and
the
approach
that
you
describe
council,
member
Fowler,
is
exactly
what
we
are
doing
with
engineering
when
it
comes
down
to
the
one
FTE
that
we
are
asking
for
is
also
provisional
tied
to
the
bond.
But
we
amplify
that
and
instead
of
trying
to
hire
five
program
project
managers
for
this
seven
eight
projects
in
the
bond.
We're
just
going
to
hand
this
this
program
to
a
consultant.
AB
But
again
there
needs
to
be
one
person
overseeing
the
whole
program,
all
of
those
projects
in
engineering,
and
so
that
is
our
senior
project
manager
that
we're
asking
for.
L
So
I
I
can
see
a
it's
very
clear
to
me
why?
Okay,
this
Bond
just
passed.
AB
Just
the
technical
input
that
they
get
to
provide
during
the
early
stages
of
planning,
again
I
mentioned
this.
This
analogy.
Basically,
the
parks
division
with
their
planners
will
be
driving
the
bus,
but
along
the
the
conceptual
design.
AB
It's
it's
part
of
a
best
practice.
So
that's
that's
the
answer.
L
Yeah
I
think
I
guess
I'm
still
uncertain
on
that
piece.
It
seems
like
they're
so,
and
actually
this
maybe
is
a
totally
different
thing.
Maybe
but
I'm
not
sure
that
I
agree
with
this
as
the
state
of
how
we
do
things
in
the
city,
but
just
there's
something
this
big,
that's
going
to
be
built
like
a
street
or
anything
tends
to
have
so
many
months
of
like
public
engagement
and
gathering
information
before
we
actually
start
designing
that
I'm
not
sure
we
need
the
construction.
L
The
engineer
to
be
involved
in
those
just
yet
but
I
would
also
be
supportive
of
moving
a
little
bit
quicker
with
things
because
I
think.
Sometimes
we
we
like
do
so
many
surveys
that
by
the
end
of
it
we
don't
know
what
we
learned
and
and
they're
not
really
helpful,
and
we
did
just
do
a
giant
public
lands
master
plan
so
like
maybe
we
don't
need
as
much
like.
We
don't
need
as
much
gathering
information
it's
it's
like.
We
have
the
information
we
figured
out.
L
AB
Also
remember
if
I
may
the
the
projects
in
this
and
this
Bond
there
are
different
stages.
They
are
not
starting
from
from
zero.
So,
for
example,
the
Glendale
Regional
Park
is
is
one
of
them.
That
requires
a
little
bit
more.
It's
for
that
along
the
process
than
let's
say
the
the
small
parks
in
the
different
districts
that
are
basically
starting
from.
Z
From
scratch-
and
we
also
can't
forget
the
revenue
bond
that
was
also
approved,
and
so
there
are
projects
within
that
Bond
as
well,
that
the
engineering
team
Works,
alongside
with
the
public
lands
team
to
implement
those
projects
and
one
of
those
is
Pioneer
Park.
And
yes,
we
are
going
to
start
the
construction
of
the
Glendale
water
park
very
soon,
because
we
have
a
deadline
on
that
one.
So
some
of
that
construction
is
going
to
start
sooner
than
later,
some
of
the
other
projects.
Z
T
Just
I
just
thought
of
two
things,
as
you
all
were
talking
one
is.
We
do
have
a
backlog
of
CIP
projects
right
now,
so
some
things
that
the
council
has
funded
wait
a
year
or
two
years,
three.
AB
It's
going
to
be
a
quick
question.
Yes,
we
are
not
going
to
distract
our
current
staff
that,
thankfully,
is
getting
completed.
Now
we
had
multiple
vacancies
for
a
long
time,
and
now
we
have
onboarded
a
few,
a
few
staff
in
the
engineering
team,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
the
bond
and
starting
this
this
these
projects,
if
we
add
this
person
who
is
just
going
to
be
responsible
over
over
that,
they
will
continue
to
carry
on
and
work
on,
the
backlog,
the
CIP
and
the
new
tax
revenue.
Okay,.
T
So
you
have
enough
people
if
they
can
keep
working
without
being
diverted
it'll
help
get
rid
of
that
the
backlog
that
we
have
correct.
Okay
and
then
there
is
a
case
in
the
city
where
a
department
had
designed
basically
conceptually
a
project
I'm
thinking
of
the
Road
by
the
mall
City
Creek,
and
it
turned
out
that
by
the
time
it
it
got
built
to
the
standards
that
were
suggested
based
on
input.
It
was
impossible,
almost
or
very
difficult
or
very
expensive
for
public
services
to
maintain
so
I.
T
Z
If
I
can
just
respond
from
public
landslide
to
your
question,
public
lands
right
now
with
70
to
80
projects
that
are
in
the
queue
having
three
people
is
really
not
enough
in
on
our
planning
side,
and
we've
been
talking
about
how
to
manage
that
and
how
to
improve
the
engagement
and
and
continue
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
public.
And
we
likely
will
lay
out
like
a
three-year
plan
for
how
to
increase
our
planning
our
planners.
H
Z
AB
It
is
about
the
same,
they
I
wouldn't
say
the
problem,
because
you
follow
exactly
the
same
process
of
procurement
to
construction,
to
ribbon
cutting
for
a
small
project.
Let's
say
at
250
000
CIP
project.
You
have
to
do
the
whole
process
for
it
right
whether
it
is
250,
000
or
8
million
dollars
in
a
project.
It
is
the
same
steps,
so
it
is
about
five
to
ten
projects.
Part
project
manager,
okay,.
C
Continue,
let's
give
it
another
say:
10
minutes
and
I've
gotta.
We
gotta
call
it.
U
U
C
U
Y
C
U
The
intent
is
to
maintain
minimum
Patrol
Staffing
levels
which
again
based
on
calls
for
service,
is
different.
Day-To-Day
shift
to
shift
in
September
the
police
department
did
Implement
mandatory
overtime
for
Patrol.
This
two
and
a
half
million
would
be
for
voluntary
overtime
based
on
the
Fulfillment
of
the
voluntary
shifts.
If
it's
too
low,
the
mandatory
overtime
could
be
reinstated.
U
U
U
U
U
N
Sorry
Mr
chair
can
I
go
back
to
the
police
overtime
yep.
It
feels
like
we're
pretty
far
off
in
what
we
were
anticipating
over
time
to
be.
Is
there
any
way
to
guess
better.
N
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
to
ask
that,
because
I
don't
know
exactly
what
I'm
asking
like
I
recognize
it's
because
of
the
leave
and
things
like
that,
but
in
the
next
budget
do
will
we
have
a
budget
proposal
that
includes
adding
to
that
overtime
bucket
like
what?
What
can
we
do
to
fix
some
of
this
I
guess.
Y
T
Well,
just
that
it's
no
it's
historically
almost
impossible,
but
but
made
worse
when
times
are
unpredictable
so
with
the
influx
of
individuals
without
housing.
The
inability
to
have
a
location
to
take
people
right
now
who
are
experienced
mental
health
issue,
mental
health
issues
and
then
special
projects
that
need
to
take
place
in
order
to
just
address
crime
in
the
community
like
The,
Hot,
Spot,
policing
or
all
the
different
programs
that
have
the
the
police
department
has
worked
on
to
to
try
to
mitigate
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
the
public.
T
That's
part
of
how
it
gets
further
out
of
whack
than
we
can
anticipate
sure.
N
And
you
bring
up
a
good
point,
Cindy
I,
wonder,
and
if
we
can
maybe
make
a
note,
I
know
that
and
I'm
again
always
proud
of
us
as
a
council
in
the
administration,
for
our
alternative
response
models,
and
one
of
the
things
we've
asked
for
in
the
past
is
sort
of
some
reporting
and
some
metrics
right
of
like
are
these?
Are
these
programs
working?
Are
they?
Are
they
doing
what
we
anticipated
them
doing?
U
U
The
police
department
is
hoping
to
launch
the
civilian
responder
program
early
next
year,
which
has
a
lieutenant
overseeing
it
as
a
director
and
then
12
funded
ftes
to
go
out
and
respond
to
those
lower
priority.
Non-Serious
calls
which
was
designed,
just
as
you
said,
to
relieve
pressure
on
police
officers
to
focus
on
more
serious
calls.
U
The
council's
audit
did
find
that
looking
at
a
12-month
period
of
all
calls
for
service,
there
could
be
20
civilian
responders
based
on
the
low
priority
calls
the
Auditors
found.
So
that's
another
option
is
adding.
Civilians
may
continue
to
help
relieve
pressure
on
existing
officers.
You
may
not
need
to
add
as
many
officers
but
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
right.
C
And
and
absolutely
true
also
sometimes
these
take
time
to
actually
show
a
difference
because
you
got
to
get
them
hired,
you
got
to
get
them
in
place
and
then
you
see
the
change,
but
it's
time
to
get
there.
You
can't
measure
it
next
month
because
they're
not
in
the
system,
yet
to
measure
that
absolutely
so.
Thank
you.
So
how
much
more
do
we
have?
Because
we
need
to
move
on
the
next
step.
C
U
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
D6.
This
is
the
final
issuance,
the
fourth
and
final
issuance
of
the
sales
or
excuse
me,
the
streets,
reconstruction
bond
that
voters
approved
in
2018..
So
after
these
funds
are
used
in
the
next
two
years,
there
will
be
a
significant
reduction
in
available
funding
for
streets
reconstruction,
so
that
might
be
a
future
policy
discussion
for
the
council
and
the
administration.
U
J
U
A
U
D10,
this
is
another
item
requesting
funding
for
police
over
time
in
budget
amendment
four
of
last
fiscal
year.
About
this
time.
Last
year
the
council
approved
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
arpa
for
police
over
time
at
the
emergency
winter
overflow,
shelter,
the
downtown
Wigan
Center
and
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Most
of
those
funds
were
not
used.
U
E1,
this
is
also
related
to
police
over
time.
This
is
a
694
thousand
dollar
State
Grant.
It's
additional
funding
through
the
homeless,
shelter
cities
mitigation
Grant.
As
a
result
of
the
decision
to
flex
capacity
at
the
homeless,
Resource
Centers,
the
city
is
required
to
pass
through
two-thirds
of
the
funding
to
the
shelter
operator.
The
remaining
one-third
is
proposed
to
go
to
Police
Department
overtime,
so
this
would
be
462
thousand
dollars
to
shelter
the
homeless
and
the
remaining
two
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
for
police
officer
overtime,
and
this
is
separate
from
the
2.75
million.
U
Next
is
E2.
This
is
a
two
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollar
Grant
from
the
Federal
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
It's
for
planning
and
design
to
rehabilitate
a
dam
at
Lake,
Mary
Phoebe.
If
you
didn't
know
about
this
Lake
as
I
didn't
you
can
see
attachment
one
for
a
map.
It's
located
up,
big
Cottonwood,
Canyon,
correct
it's
by
Brighton,
Ski
Resort.
U
E3,
this
is
an
additional
five
million
dollars
from
the
U.S
treasury
Department
for
emergency
rental
assistance.
There
are
low
performing
jurisdictions
that
have
not
used
their
allocation,
and
so
the
U.S
treasury
Department
is
taking
that
funding
and
making
it
available
to
high
performing
cities.
Salt
Lake
City
is
considered
high
performing
by
the
federal
government.
U
AC
U
U
There
are
some
some
metrics
in
the
staff
report
if
you
wanted
to
see
some
demographics
about
the
residents
that
are
receiving
these
funds,
as
well
as
where
they
live
in
the
city
and
there's
a
link
to
the
public
dashboard
by
ZIP
code.
If
you
want
to
learn
more.
U
C
C
U
The
only
other
item
was
proposed
by
council
member
Pui
since
he's
not
with
us
I
figured.
We
could
talk
about
it
at
the
next
briefing.
U
It's
yeah:
it's
a
proposal
for
vouchers
to
RV
owners
to
dump
Blackwater
at
safe
disposal
sites,
since
there
have
been
complaints
of
some
RVs
disposing
black
water
into
the
Jordan
River.
Okay,
great.
C
U
This
is
the
first
briefing
for
Library
budget
amendment
number
one
and
the
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
December
13th.
The
amendment
has
a
single
item.
It's
a
request
for
1.3
million
dollars
from
the
library's
fund
balance,
which
is
separate
from
the
general
fund
balance
and
it
would
be
used
for
the
purchase
of
property
per
state
law.
Many
of
the
details
of
a
property
acquisition
are
best
discussed
in
a
closed
session,
but
I
do
have
a
few
more
details
to
share
the
library's
fund.
U
U
The
process
leading
up
to
this
proposed
budget
amendment
was
unusual.
The
property
purchase
contract
was
signed
prematurely.
Neither
the
library
board
nor
the
council
had
authorized
it.
The
library's
annual
budget
is
insufficient
to
cover
the
proposed
property
purchase,
so
a
budget
appropriation
approved
by
the
council
is
necessary
for
it
to
proceed.
U
The
library
board
of
directors
held
a
special
meeting
on
October
26th.
The
board
voted
six
in
favor,
two
against
and
one
absent
to
recommend
this
budget
amendment
to
the
council
foreign.
As
a
reminder:
the
board
of
directors
of
the
library
they
are,
the
policy
making
body
for
the
library.
The
council's
role
is
for
budgetary
approval
and
Taxation.
C
AD
On
well,
the
the
renovations
to
the
roof
have
been
funded
in
the
fiscal
year
23
budget,
and
we
are
hoping
to
begin
that
process
in
probably
spring
of
2023..
The
estimates
though,
but
we
may
need
yes,
that's
correct.
We
may
need
some
additional
funding
for
that
which
we
would
draw,
would
request
to
take
from
our
fund
balance
through
another
budget
amendment
process,
because
as
anybody
who's
in
the
construction
industry
knows,
all
the
costs
are
going
up
just
to
do.
AD
The
waterproofing
has
come
in
around
2.7
million
dollars
and
you
can't
waterproof
without
putting
something
on
top
of
it
or
it
will
degrade
because
of
the
Sun
so
that,
but
we
are
working
to
bring
down
the
estimates,
we
hope
by
a
significant
amount
of
money
to
make
it
a
little
more
palatable.
So
there
might
be
some
value
engineering
on
the
current
design.
L
This
is
more
of
a
budget
nerd
question,
so
probably
Ben,
but
what?
If
the
library
fund
is
funded
entirely
by
property
taxes,
what
would
account
for
a
two
million
dollar
overage
in
their
fund
balance?
Is
it
unspent
funds
that
were
appropriated
in
previous
years,
because
it's
not
like
property
taxes
came
in
that
much
more
than
we
expected
right?
Yeah.
U
V
So
we
we
had
property
tax
revenue
coming
in
about
it
was
just
under
700
000,
more
than
what
the
certified
tax
rate
said.
It
would
generate
largely
from
personal
property
taxes,
and
then
our
largest
underspend
is
in
our
Personnel
for
last
fiscal
year,
which
was
pretty
close
to
I
think
it
was
a
little
right
around
700,
000
or
maybe
even
more
than
that
between
seven
and
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars.
G
O
I
can
never
remember
if
it's
Foothills
or
sweet
or
but
one
of
them
is
crumbling
on
its
foundation
and
about
to
slide
into
a
major
thoroughfare.
Wow
are
look:
I
come
from
Arts
and
Humanities
I'm
allowed
to
speak
dramatically.
O
We
have
significant
foundational
issues
that,
from
what
was
presented
to
US
during
budget
season,
could
impact
our
ability
to
function
and
use
that
building.
What's
the
status
on
that
and
do
we
have
a
strategy?
AD
Could
be
another
area
in
which
we
would
come
back
for
a
budget
amendment?
Maybe
we
could
combine
with
the
roof
and
that,
because
we
are
right
now,
working
with
the
engineering
firm
to
kind
of
give
us
like
a
more
solid
estimate
as
to
what
we
could
do
to
kind
of
work
on
slowing
down
the
the
movement
of
the
building.
And
it's
my
understanding.
AD
It's
going
about
a
quarter
or
three
quarters
of
an
inch
per
year
and
it's
not
in
danger
of
really
sliding
down
into
2100
East,
but
and
we
would
never
operate
if
it
wasn't
in
unsafe
conditions.
So
we
are
looking
at
what
we
can
do
kind
of
to
mitigate
that
in
the
short
term,
with
the
plan
that,
if
you
recall,
when
we
presented
on
the
master
facility
plan
10-year
plan,
that
we
would
look
at
Foothill
as
one
of
our
first
projects
just
because,
based
on
some
of
the
issues
with
this
structure
of
the
building.
AD
O
C
T
AD
C
AD
AD
T
AD
Bit
we
did
put
in
money
in
fiscal
year,
23
budget
for
our
operating
costs
ongoing
for
the
any
kind
of
temporary
or
you
know,
potentially
I
mean
in
the
future.
If
we
went
with
a
permanent
location,
my
guess
is,
it
would
be
a
larger
space
and
and
based
on
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
so
then,
of
course,
in
the
future
of
their
main.
AD
You
know
if
we
went
with
a
permanent,
newer,
new
space
that
could
impact
what
could
happen,
but
right
now
we
do
have
enough
funds
to
cover
that
we
do
have
some
funds
put
aside
to
ensure
that
we
can
do
the
renovations
as
we're
currently
anticipating
that
they'll
come
in
and
one
thing
if
we
would
utilize,
we
do
have
ninety
thousand
dollars
annually
set
aside
for
a
lease
and
if
we
could
go
ahead
and
utilize
that
money,
if,
if
need
be
in
this
budget
year,
because
we
had
hoped
to
maybe
get
into
a
space
a
little
sooner
than
most
likely.
AD
A
I
mean
this
was
a
a
surprise
for
many
reasons,
but
one
of
them
is
that
if
we
heard
at
the
beginning,
if
there
was
a
belief
at
the
staff
level
that
there
was
sufficient
funds
for
this
purchase,
why
did
we
just
raise
property
taxes
for
the
library.
AD
Well
part
of
our
request
in
fiscal
in
this
year's
budget
for
fiscal
year,
23
was
to
use
the
tax
increase
to
help
us
continue
to
fund
coal,
Acosta
living
and
any
other
kind
of
adjustments.
We
need
to
make
in
staff
salaries
to
allow
us
to
have
that
additional
18.3
FTE,
which
included
additional
safety
team
members
custodial
janitorial
staff,
as
well
as
hiring
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker
which
we
have
hired
and
the
individual
begins.
AD
December
1st
and
then
as
well
as
to
have
some
supporting
staff
for
other
Support
Services,
as
well
as
some
assistant
managers
and
some
of
our
branch
locations.
And
then
the
third
thing
was
to
fund
a
presence
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood
with
limited
services
and
a
smaller
staff
in
support
of
the
city's
plan
for
the
ballpark
neighborhood.
A
A
And
you
think,
do
you
feel
that
that
was
all
reflected
in
the
present
presentation
from
the
library?
Yes,.
V
V
The
the
the
purchase
of
a
you
know,
a
location
was
not
necessarily
anticipated
when
we
were
going
through
the
ballpark,
and
so
it
didn't
really
come
into
play.
Is
we
wouldn't
use
the
fund
balance
for
ongoing
expenses
like
the
cola
or
the
additional
ftes,
so
that
that's
what
the
tax
increase
was
for
was
for
ongoing
Personnel
costs,
mainly
I?
Didn't
we
didn't
we
weren't
requesting
funding
in
the
in
the
tax
increase
for
one
time,
Acquisitions
or
one-time
pools
of
money.
A
Okay,
and
can
you
say
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
better
for
a
closed
session,
but
you
had
two
of
your
board
members
voting
against
this
request.
Do
you
know
what
their
basis
was
that,
for
that
was.
AD
And
I
answer
that
yeah
they
just
felt
like
they
had
some
concerns
as
to
why
ballpark
was
elevated
in
our
list
of
priorities
for
a
location,
even
though
it
had
been
identified
in
our
master's
facilities
plan
as
a
neighborhood
in
need
of
easier
access
to
library
services,
and
they
just
have
some
concerns
in
general,
with
the
ballpark
station
area
plan
unrelated
to
our
our
role.
Q
T
The
the
the
tax
increase
part
of
part
of
your
operations
is
to
keep
things
in
operating
order
and
keep
the
furniture
cleaned
or
replaced
or
whatever
and
I
know.
You've
talked
a
lot
about
the
wear
and
tear
on
the
furniture
at
the
main
library,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
how
I
came
out
of
that
budget.
T
Conversation
thinking
that
that
money
would
help
with
those
sorts
of
things
is
it
would
it
be
true
to
say
that
you
could
choose
to
fund
to
use
the
fund
balance
to
expedite
the
replacement
of
equipment,
copy
machines,
furniture
or
you
could
use
it
to
help
with
your
cleaning
or
help
with
one-time
repairs
at
the
branches,
or
things
like
that?
There's
there's
a
multitude
of
things
that
our
one-time
expenses,
that
you
could
use
fund
balance
for.
V
T
V
I,
don't
know
that
there's
ever
an
excess
of
in
of
needs.
I
would
say
that
it
was
unexpected
that
it
was
that
high
for
this
particular
year.
AD
AD
If
you
remember,
we
had
those
large
rainstorms
at
the
main
library
that
we
were
able
to
utilize
that
so
we
always
kind
of
view
that
as
funds
to
help
us
in
that
type
of
situation,
when
something
unanticipated
happens
so-
and
we
do
have
some
designated
funds-
India
that
are
related
for
facilities
and
our
Tech
I.T-
that
were
part
of
the
2017
tax
increase
that
we
were
was
approved
five
years
ago.
So,
and
so
we
do
use
that
to
do
those
kind
of
designated
projects
where
we
think
that
there
is
that
ongoing
maintenance.
AD
V
C
So
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
thank
you
very
much
for
those
I'm
just
going
back
to
the
you
know
the
the
process
that
went
forward
on
on
where
we
got
here
and
the
missteps
we
made
and
some
of
the
actions
that
you
have
moving
forward
on
on
rectifying
those
mistakes.
So
we
don't
right.
AD
Computer
yeah
there
were
definitely
Lessons
Learned
and
as
we
as
we
had
multiple
conversations
with
people
from
the
city
and
Council
staff
that
we
understand
that
our
current
policy
needs
to
be
better
aligned
with
with
and
consistent
with
City
policy
and
procedures,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
working
with
Katie's
team
and,
of
course,
Kimberly
on
that
and
Mary
Beth
has
been
really
helpful
as
well.
AD
So
it's
just
you
know
it's
just
a
an
understanding
of
some
of
the
impact
of
these
different
ordinances
that
we
weren't
as
aware
of
in
our
current
policy,
and
we
are
actually
in
a
large
review
of
all
of
our
policies
right
now.
So
this
is
a
good
time
for
us
to
be
taking
that
on.
T
AD
Well,
we
really
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
have
in-depth
conversations
about
it.
So
I
guess
we
just
need
to
get
a
little
more
information,
and
then
we
could
can
understand
it
better.
I,
don't
know
that,
there's
a
large
disagreement.
It
was
just
based
on
what
our
current
policy
is,
and
it's
pointed
out
to
us
that
there
are
some
issues
with
that
that
we
need
to
address
so
that
we
can
really
understand.
You
know
just
have
a
better
idea
of
the
city
of
the
city,
library's
role
in
city
government
as
well.
V
We
we
wholehearted
at
least
our
policies
state
that
we
can
expand
funds
that
are
not
been
appropriated.
So
there's
not
an
issue
with
that.
AD
Right,
so
it
wasn't
our
intent
to
not
get
that
done.
I
think
it
was
again
just
some
missteps
with
you
know,
feeling
a
bit
defeated
in
trying
to
find
a
leasable
location
in
that
neighborhood,
and
this
was
seen
as
a
possible
good
opportunity
and
we
still
feel
like
it
is
a
good
opportunity
to
have
this.
These
properties,
this
property
purchase,
so
that
we
can
be
a
presence
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood.
C
Yeah
that
thank
you,
I
mean
that's,
that's
really.
The
whole
essence
of
why
we're
here
is
right
is
that
we
had
some
missteps.
It
didn't
complicated
life
for
all
of
us
across
the
board,
and
but
we
need
to
move
forward
also
and
just
not
repeat
ourselves
so
great.
C
AD
C
Ben
is
still
at
the
table
and
Stephen
is
how
are
you
guys,
Lisa,
hi
and
Bruce
come
on
in
come
on
up
good
afternoon,
hey
good
afternoon
good,
to
see
you
in
person?
Yes,.
AE
C
U
U
The
initial
contract
term
was
extended
for
five
years
until
October
of
next
year,
and
the
contract
allows
one
more
five-year
extension
period
under
the
agreement.
The
city
is
providing
records
management,
computer,
aided
dispatch,
call
taking
and
radio
communications
to
Sandy.
These
include
animal
control,
services,
fire,
medical
and
police.
U
The
proposed
amendment
to
the
interlocal
agreement
would
streamline
the
existing
price
structure
billing
for
services
and
how
future
cost
increases
would
be
handled.
The
Sandy
City
Council
has
adopted
the
amended
agreement
with
us.
Today
we
have
9-1-1
director
Stephen
Meyer,
his
Deputy
Lisa
Kehoe
and
from
Sandy
City.
We
have
the
fire
chief
Bruce
Klein
and
they
have
a
short
presentation
for
the
council.
AE
AE
So
I
wanted
to
start
by
giving
everyone
a
understanding
of
how
we
currently
bill
right
now,
Sandy
City
pays
seven
percent
of
our
Personnel
Services,
nine
percent
for
our
operating
maintenance
charges,
services
and
capital
expenses.
AE
The
problem
with
the
current
billing
structure
is:
it
is
incredibly
burdensome
to
try
to
go
through
and
make
sure
that
you
know
each
quarter.
We
have
to
go
through
make
sure
that
everything's
been
coded
correctly,
make
sure
that
we
have
all
the
ducks
in
a
row.
Basically,
this
proposed
agreement
is
going
to
streamline
that,
basically
into
a
flat
fee
that
comes
out
to
about
what
they're
paying
on
average
anyways.
It
just
makes
budgeting
for
both
us
and
for
the
city
of
Sandy
much
easier
and
streamlined,
so
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
AE
I
can't
already
talked
about
it,
so
we
can
skip
ahead.
I'm
jumping
the
gun
here
next
slide
next
slide.
So
with
the
do
agreement,
we
have
a
built-in
7.12
increase
for
all
Cad
and
RMS
Services
each
year.
That
is
a
cost.
That
is.
We
are
contractually
obligated
to
by
Versa
term
that
we
pass
along
to
the
city
of
Sandy.
Any
other
cost
increases
as
they
result
as
far
as
either
operating
Personnel
Services
or
any
other
increases
Capital,
whatever
you
might
think
of,
would
be
shared
with
Sandy
proportionally
each
year.
AE
AE
So
the
rate
is
going
to
be
636
000
a
year
that
is
in
line
with
what
they
pay
now,
there's
not
a
significant
difference.
It's
gonna
be
built
quarterly
at
159
000
a
year
or
a
quarter.
Sorry.
AE
The
7.12
is
for
the
cat.
There's
two
really
separate
things
that
you
have
to
look
at:
they
get
billed
for
Cad
and
RMS
Services
and
that
you
know
that's
their
record
management
and
then
the
computer,
aided
dispatch
and
then
our
dispatch
Services
is
the
159
000..
So
we
we
only
pass
through
the
cost
to
them.
AE
So
whatever
we
get
billed
from
Versa
term,
the
city
of
Sandy
pays
and
then
there
will
be
a
7.12
increase
for
the
cost
that
we
incur
for
Personnel,
Services,
operating
expenditures
and
things
like
that
they
will
pay
whatever
we
increase.
If
we
experience
a
five
percent
increase,
I
would
pass
along
that
five
percent
to
them
and
then
they
would
have
to
agree
to
that
and
if
they
don't,
then
we
would
have
to
either
negotiate
or
provide
them
notice
to
terminate
okay.
AE
Correct
correct
and
so
that
and
that
would
that
would
start
if
the
council
adopts
this,
it
would
start
with
the
January
quarter,
the
January,
quarterly
billing
and
and
then
any
cost
increase.
We
would
make
sure
that
we
would
have
to
notify
them
in
time
to
you
know,
do
their
budget
if
we
intend
to
raise
the
rates
and
then
we
would
have
to
have
a
mutual
agreement.
AE
If
that
was
the
road,
we
were
going
to
go
down,
okay
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
so
I
wanted
to
give
Chief
Klein
a
few
moments
of
my
time.
He
was
intimately
involved
in
the
negotiations
of
this
contract.
This
was
negotiated
by
the
prior
leadership
of
Salt
Lake
City
9-1-1
before
I
came
in,
so
he
has
a
little
more
background
on
how
we
got
here
and
what
the
methodology
was.
AF
Thank
you
for
inviting
me
this
evening.
Our
mayor
is
aware
that
I'm
here
and
the
police
chief
was
wishing
he
could
make
it,
but
with
young
kids
in
soccer
and
everything
so
I'm
it
I
was
part
of
the
transition
back
in
2013
on
that
October
27th
day.
We
have
never
looked
back
since
that
day,
with
the
dispatch
service
at
Salt,
Lake
City
911
provides
excellent
service.
Our
firefighters
are
so
happy.
AF
The
police
officers
are
so
happy
with
the
service
that
is
provided
the
history
of
the
negotiation
was
they
did
look
at
the
past
five
years
and
and
calculated
about
what
those
increases
were
and
what
those
costs
were
is
how
this
was
calculated
and
it's
been
adopted,
a
resolution
through
our
city
almost
a
year
ago.
So
we
are
excited
to
continue
this
process
of
being
dispatched
by
Salt
Lake,
City
9-1-1
and
the
service
that
that
they
provide
us
is
just
above
and
beyond,
and
the
the
city
like
I
said,
has
adopted
this.
AF
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Chief
appreciate
that
and
I
I
agree
with
your
assessment
of
the
9-1-1.
Thank
you
thank.
AE
L
Yeah,
just
a
question
I
and
other
conditions
in
Sandy
and
Salt
Lake
City
are
not
entirely
comparable
in
terms
of
what
we
have
in
our
city
and
with
capital
city
and
all
that
but
Sandy's
about
half
the
population
of
Salt
Lake.
Does
it
really
only
account
for
seven
percent
of
the
dispatch
calls
or?
How
is
that
seven
point?
Whatever
percent
determined
is
that
covering
our
costs.
AE
So
there's
a
couple
things
that
you
have
to
look
at.
We
provide
a
lot
of
other
services
for
the
city
of
Salt
Lake
that
we
don't
provide
for
the
city
of
Sandy.
So
if
you
look
at
the
call
volume
call,
volume
is
not
I
mean
it's
not
proportional.
If
you
just
went
off
of
call
volume,
they
account
for
about
19-ish
percent
of
our
overall
call
volume.
However,
we
do
a
lot
of
administrative
things
for
the
city
of
Salt,
Lake
City
and
for
the
police
department.
We,
you
know,
answer
phones
that
don't
get
a
call.
AE
A
call
is
not
created
for
those.
So
like
officers
when
people
call
in
to
talk
directly
to
officers,
we
estimate
that
that
probably
counts
for
20
of
our
call
volume
is
just
administrative
type
calls
and
those
are
mostly
for
the
city
of
Salt
Lake
for
the
city
of
Sandy.
We
don't
really
have
that
kind
of
administrative
function
like
we
do
with
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
so
using
column.
You
can
use
that
and
that
would
affect
the
rates,
but
it's
not
really
proportional
to
the
services.
We
actually
provide
them,
because
we
don't
do
those
extra
things.
C
Okay,
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
that,
where
you
have
a
good
relationship
and
look
forward
to
the
future.
C
AG
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
Mr,
chair,
I
and
I
apologize
that
I
can't
be
with
you
today.
I
decided
not
to
share
my
holiday
germs,
so
this
is
a
loan
application
for
25.
It's
probably
250
000
dollars
from
the
city's
economic
development
loan
fund
to
a
business
called
Club.
First
at
609,
South
State
Street.
The
business
is
a
startup
for
a
nightclub
coffee
shop
and
meeting
space
for
the
queer
and
Allied
communities.
AG
AG
The
loan
would
be
repaid
at
7.25
interest
over
seven
years
and
is
met,
and
is
it
is
meant
for
building
Renovations,
including
Machinery
equipment,
furniture
and
fixtures.
The
loan
will
assist
in
the
creation
of
45
new
jobs
in
the
next
year
and
the
retention
of
three
current
jobs.
So
that's
the
information,
I
have
and
I'm
sure
these
gentlemen
have
more.
Q
Thank
you
Council
for
having
us
today.
We
appreciate
your
time
I'll
be.
We
did
want
to
say
really
quickly
before
we
begin
the
presentation
of
this
loan
on
B
half
of
the
Department
of
Economic
Development.
We
wanted
to
relay
our
love
and
support
for
the
lgbtqia
plus
Community
friends
and
family
after
the
tragedy
on
Sunday
in
Colorado,
Springs
Club
verse
will
be
another
safe
and
inclusive
place
for
all
SLC
residents,
especially
our
lgbtqia
plus
community,
and
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
this.
AA
C
Council
members
I
mean
our
hearts
go
out
to
those
in
Colorado,
Springs
and
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
questions
for
this
loan,
it's
pretty
short
brief
and
requests,
but
thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
N
Chair
I'm,
sorry
I
do
I,
don't
have
anything
about
this
particular
loan,
necessarily
but
I.
Remember
a
while
back
in
sort
of
looking
at
some
of
our
loan
programs
and
our
grant
programs
and
we've
come
up
with
all
sorts
of
new
funding
sources
in
different
ways
that
stem
the
gamut
right
and
so
I
am
wondering
if
we
could
maybe
and
I'd
look
to
the
chair
and
and
maybe
get
sort
of
a
new
another
briefing
on
what
the
edlf
loan
criterias
are
and
how
like
the
application
process
goes.
N
Especially
for
you
know,
maybe
some
of
our
newer
council
members
and
kind
of
just
a
Refresh
on
that.
As
you
all
are
very
well
well
aware,
we've
really
been
focusing
over
the
last
few
years
on
on
equity
and
inclusion.
N
I
know
that's
been
a
focus
of
your
department
as
well,
and
so
maybe
just
kind
of
a
a
nice
informational
briefing,
again
kind
of
looking
towards
the
chair
and
and
the
future
of
what
that
is,
and
how
that
your
Department's,
including
the
the
equity
and
inclusion,
Within,
These,
edlf
programs
and
and
if
I,
can
so
suggest
or
ask
request.
Please
Mr,
chair.
AG
Mr,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
in
fact,
the
council
does
have
a
transmittal
that
was
sent
some
time
ago
that
from
the
economic
development
department,
that
touches
on
some
of
these
issues
and
we've
been
working
out.
Some
related
legal
issues
on
it
and
so
we're
hoping
to
get
that
scheduled
very
soon
and
I.
Think
that
would
help
meet
council
member
Fowler's
request.
C
P
The
Volunteers
of
America
youth,
homeless,
Resource
Center,
which
is
located
at
888
South
400
West,
has
requested
an
increase
in
capacity
from
30
beds
to
40
beds
for
the
winter
to
accommodate
an
increase
in
youth
experiencing
homelessness,
and
that
can
be
accomplished
through
a
temporary
land
use
regulation
which
allows
the
council
to
enact
a
temporary
zoning
ordinance
in
this
crease,
in
this
case
increasing
the
cap
from
30
to
40.
and
that
can
be
enacted
without
going
through
the
Normal
public
process
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
city
council
and
public
hearings.
P
The
reason
this
is
allowed
under
state
law
and
it
is
allowed
in
circumstances
when
the
council
identifies
a
compelling
countervailing
public
interest
and
that
regulation
can
only
be
in
effect
for
a
maximum
of
six
months.
The
compelling
countervailing
public
interests
in
this
case,
as
shown
on
the
temporary
land
use
regulation.
That's
in
your
materials
is
the
increase
in
youth.
P
So
those
are
individuals
under
the
age
of
23
experiencing
homelessness
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
also
the
state
legislature's
indication
that
there
needs
to
be
flexibility
in
shelters
during
the
winter
months
to
accommodate
extreme
winter
conditions
and
make
sure
that
no
lives
are
lost
during
that
time,
and
that
was
indicated
with
Governor
Cox
signing
what
was
known
as
HB
440,
but
that
doesn't
apply
to
a
shelter
of
this
size.
So
this
is
to
fill
that
Gap
with
the
increase
in
capacity.
P
C
P
It
is
part
of
their
conditional
use
permit,
so
they
there
may
be
a
process
where
they
need
to
go
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
Although
there
was
also
discussion
today
about
some
changes
that
might
occur
with
or
I'm.
Sorry
in
small
group
meetings
that
you're
having
about
changes
that
might
occur
on
homeless,
shelter,
zoning.
So
there
may
be
some
things
that
change
between
now
and
and
then
okay.
L
I
I
guess
since
I
wasn't
here
at
that
time,
can
what
30
strikes
me
as
a
very
low
limit
for
a
number
of
residents
that
can
be
served
by
that
facility?
What
what
drove
that
original
restriction.
P
You
know
I,
we
don't
have
planning
director
Norris
here
today.
It
was
in
that
condition
was
placed
in
2014,
so
we
could
get
back
to
you
on
on
the
history
of
it.
I'd.
M
L
We
just
talked
about
lives
lost
in
the
lgbtq
plus
Community
I.
Think
a
lot.
My
understanding
is
a
lot
of
the
people,
the
residents
of
that
shelter
actually
belong
to
the
lgbtq
plus
community
and
so
I
can't
think
of
anything
any
more
I
forget
the
words
compelling
compelling
countervailing
public
interest
than
to
make
sure
that
Homeless
youth
lives
are
not
lost,
so
I
I
and
it's
a
pretty
large
facility
I.
Imagine
that
more
than
30
people
would
comfortably
and
safely
fit
in
there.
G
Mr
chair
the
Kathy
Bray,
the
executive
director
of
excuse
me,
president
of
Volunteers
of
America
Utah
is
here
she
could
probably
answer
some
detailed
questions
but,
as
you
all
probably
know,
the
process
of
opening
a
new
Resource
Center
for
those
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
is
as
contentious
and
so
oftentimes
there's
a
lot
of
negotiation
about,
what's
an
appropriate
size
versus
a
feeling,
a
safe
size.
G
C
So
I
kind
of
look
forward
to
the
you
know
future
discussions
over
the
spring
because
we
can
have
the
discussion
well
before
the
temporary
land
use
expires
on
expanding
that
to
some
whatever
degree
so
council
members,
any
other
questions.
H
I
I
think
I'm
supportive
of
this
as
well,
something
that
I
loved
about
our
trip
to
Miami
and
looking
at
the
Camilla's
house
and
all
that
system
is
that
I
think
they
have
a
policy.
Maybe
we
do
too,
but
a
policy
of
live
the
first
people
that
get
at
a
Insider,
Resource,
Center
or
a
bed
or
a
Home
are
families
with
with
children.
H
G
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
just
for
the
public
record.
The
request
by
Volunteers
of
America
Utah
is
for
a
Time
limited
just
until
April
15th
of
2023,
and
it
is
for
a
25
increase
on
their
current
capacity,
so
10
additional
bets
to
the
30
to
a
total
of
40,
which
is
in
line
with
the
state
statute
that
Katie
Lewis
mentioned
earlier.
Thank.
O
L
Youth
that
need
to
be
homeless,
but
that
does
that
also,
because
my
understanding
is
the
state
legislation
says
you
can
go,
you
can
Flex
up
to
us
up
to
25
or
20
25,
but
not
to
exceed
the
like.
What
would
be
safe
by
fire
code?
Can
I
I
get
it
understanding
like
I
assume
that
we're
limited
by
the
25,
not
by
the
fire
code
right
fire
code,
would.
O
P
Think
that's
right:
VOA
requested
10,
more
I,
don't
know
if
that's
the
actual
need,
maybe
that's
something
that
and
maybe
that
they
can
speak
to
the
the
temporary
language
regulation
does
say
that
any
increase
in
the
cap
also
has
to
meet
fire
code
and
building
code.
There
are
some
ways
that
the
the
fire
marshal
and
the
Chief
Building
official
can
come
up
with
alternative
means
to
make
sure
for
this
temporary
period
of
time
that
there
is
compliance
and
safety,
so
the
10
may
not
be
the
limit.
For
that
reason,
and.
G
There
may
be
other
things
and
Kathy
can
talk
to
this
I'm
sure,
with
the
way
that
the
building
itself
is
laid
out.
That's
a
fire
code
restriction,
sometimes
where
the
walls
are.
How
do
you
separate
populations,
there's
details
in
there
that
may
be
a
part
of
the
limiting
factor
and
how
much
they
could
grow
in
the
current
space.
I
think
I
would
assume.
I'll
say
this
way
that
there's
a
great
need
out
there
I'm
sure
boy
would
love
to
have
many
many
more
beds,
but
also
respecting
the
temporary
nature
of
this
request.
G
C
AH
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
happy
to
be
here
to
talk
about
this
issue
tonight.
C
AH
We,
if
this
is
past,
we
intend
to
have
the
fire
marshal
to
come
out
and
tell
us
exactly
what
would
be
allowed
within
the
room
that
is
built
for
sleeping
and
I.
Think
we
would
be
able
to
accommodate
at
least
10,
possibly
more
and
potentially
utilizing
bunk
beds.
Instead
of
just
single
single
story,
beds.
C
But
and
but
the
10
right
now
is
your
best
need
at
this
moment
that
you
could
quickly.
AH
Yeah,
the
recent
statistics
say
that
there's
an
average
of
four
to
five
youth,
a
knight
who
we're
turning
away.
This
is
recently
in
the
last
few
months,
there's
been
a
few
days
that
I
saw
in
a
recent
statistical
sheet
that
showed
between
10
and
15
youth
I.
Think
having
support
for
10
would
be
great
at
this
point.
I
think
we
could
probably
accommodate
up
to
20,
but
again
we
have
to
talk
with
the
fire
marshal
about
that
and.
C
AH
C
The
fire
marshal
has
to
kind
of
give
you
an
answer
on
that
correct
is
if
we
were
to
approve
this
tonight,
because
it's
on
the
agenda
for
a
formal
session.
Would
there
could
you
have
an
I'm
looking
at
Katie?
Now
sorry,
can
you
have
an
amendment
to
add
10
beds
to
it,
because
now
we
have
a
a
fire
marshal
that
says:
hey
you
can
put
in.
T
So,
whatever
the
the
action
item
States,
you
could
probably
with
Katie's
help,
add
something
that
says
up
to
X
number,
but
you
might
want
to
add
something
to
do
with
someone
in
the
city,
the
mayor
or
someone
certifying
that
they
have
an
adequate
plan
for
Staffing
and
that
sort
of
a
thing.
So
you
don't
have
an
unintended
Neighborhood
Impact.
So
it
might
be
something
you
could
do
right.
P
Absolutely
Cindy
and
in
fact
the
temporary
land
use
regulation
right
now
says:
not
only
will
the
shelter
meet
all
of
the
building
and
fire
code
requirements,
but
also
that
Volunteers
of
America
will
maintain
a
staff
to
client
ratio
in
compliance
with
the
minimum
step
set
forth
in
licensing
code
and,
and
so
those
standards
are
already
in
there.
And
if
the
council
wanted
to
change
the
number.
Let's
say
from
right
now
it
says
from
30
to
40
you
could
say
from
30
with
an
additional
20.
so
up
to
50.
C
L
Can
I
ask
one
quick,
clarifying
question:
I,
I'm,
I'm
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
I.
L
My
question
is:
is
there
is
that,
would
you
say
licensing
requirement
pertinent
to
all
homeless,
Resource
Centers,
and
would
there
be
a
need
for
additional
Staffing
because
their
youth
in
a
slightly
maybe
more
vulnerable
population?
Or
do
you
believe
that
that
because
I
also
don't
want
to
like
put
tons
of
people
and
then
there
becomes
problems
within
the
within
the
facility
as
well.
AH
For
this
particular
facility,
because
we
serve
minors
and
adults,
we
have
two
different
staff
to
client
ratios
that
we
need
to
meet
so
for
every
10
minors.
We
have
to
have
one
staff
person
on
duty.
It
is
common
that
there
are
less
than
10
minors
in
the
facility,
so
we
always
have
one
staff
member
on
the
overnight
shift,
that's
basically
assigned
to
the
miners
and
then
for
adults.
The
ratio
is
40
to
1,
and
so
your
second
staff
member
can
accommodate
the
oversight
of
the
additional
40
adults.
C
A
AH
C
C
L
Doubling
is
pretty
good,
so,
let's
I
think
for
the
sake
of
today,
I'm
comfortable
at
20,
but
I
would
like
to
dig
into
what
that
the
reasons
were
and
what
would
actually
be
appropriate
and
safe
and
what
the
historic
impacts
have
been
and
if,
if
we,
if
it
needs
to
be
more
than
20
I
would
I
would
be
open
to
certainly
open
to
considering
that
with
more
information.
But
with
the
information
we
have
today,
I'm
comfortable
at
20,
additional
okay,
great.
C
AH
AH
C
Alrighty
Council
moving
on
to
item
number
nine,
the
appointment
of
the
disciplinary
appeals
hearing
officers
and
we
have
a
few
attorneys
Kristen
Allen
Brandon,
crother,
Clinton,
Drake
and
Brian
Scott
they're
on
the
call
here.
Thank
you
very
much
for
wanting
to
be
a
part
of
this
board,
and
we
have
the
four
of
you
here
and
but
I'm
going
to
give
you
what
we're
calling
a
me
in
a
minute.
I'll.
C
Give
you
each
a
minute
to
tell
us
your
reasons
for
wanting
to
be
on
the
on
the
board
and
I'll
just
go
down
the
line
there
and
Kristen
can
start
us
off.
AI
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
nice,
to
see
all
of
you
this
evening.
My
name
is
Kirsten
Allen
I'm,
an
attorney
at
the
law,
firm
of
Fabian
bangkot
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
employment
Practice
Group
for
the
for
the
firm
I've
been
practicing
for
about
eight
years
here
in
Salt,
Lake,
I'm
honored,
to
be
considered
for
appointment
to
this
board.
AI
AI
Moreover,
I've
found
that
the
most
satisfying
satisfying
parts
of
my
work
are
where
I've
gotten
to
act
as
a
neutral
arbitrator,
both
as
a
neutral
investigator
for
both
private
and
public
employers
and
then
also,
as
you
know,
a
mediator,
arbitrator
and
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
fit
for
me
and
a
great
opportunity
for
me
to
get
to
serve
the
community
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
anything
else
you
might
have
for
me.
Thank.
C
W
Thank
you,
council
members,
yeah,
so
I've
been
an
attorney
practicing
here
in
Salt
Lake
City
for
about
10
years
and
the
majority
of
those
we
represented.
My
partner,
I'm
Brian
Scott
represented
the
Salt
Lake
City
Civil
Service
Commission,
doing
precisely
what
the
the
disciplinary
appeals
hearing
officers
will
be
doing.
We
really
enjoyed
that
work.
W
I
felt
it
felt
meaningful
being
able
to
get
people
their
day
in
court
and
be
able
to
to
decide
whether
the
city
made
the
correct
decision
and
I'd
like
to
continue
serving
in
that
capacity
and
and
fulfilling
that
function
for
the
city.
C
M
C
You
thank
you
Clinton.
AC
Thank
you.
Council
members.
My
name
is
Clint
Drake
I
serve
as
the
Bountiful
city
attorney
I've,
been
an
attorney
for
about
16
years
now
and
have
spent
almost
the
entirety
of
that
16
years.
Serving
different
municipalities
throughout
the
state.
I
love,
Municipal
law
I
enjoy
this
particular
aspect
of
Municipal
law
and.
C
X
Well,
thanks
Mr,
chairman
and
Council
Brian
Scott
with
the
law
firm
of
Preston
and
Scott
Brandon
gave
you
a
little
bit
of
history
about
our
firm
we've.
We've
been
representing
cities
and
towns,
really
our
whole
careers.
We've
represented
the
Civil
Service
Commission,
like
Brandon,
said
for
Salt
Lake.
We
represent
Sandy
City,
Ogden
City,
Orem
City.
We
do
some
work
and
most
of
their
employment
cases
when
they
have
a
police
officer
or
an
employee.
That's
terminated
or
seeks
reinstatement
or
goes
in
front
of
the
appeal
board.
We've
always
represented
cities
in
that
capacity.
C
Thank
you
very
much
Brian
and
again
no
questions
from
this
end.
I
I
do
appreciate
the
four
of
you
coming
together
and
being
a
part
of
this
board.
I
think
we've
formed
a
pretty
solid
team
here
and
I
appreciate
all
your
your
volunteering
for
this
board.
You're
gonna
be
on
tonight's
formal
meeting,
consent
agenda
and
you
need
not
be
present
for
any
other
further
questions.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
have
a
great
long
weekend
and
turkey
day
thanks
for.
C
Councilman
see
number
item
number
10
is
a
briefing
on
the
funded.
Our
future
quarter
to
three
course
update.
C
C
C
So
there's
that
passes
six
to
zero,
with
councilmember
absent
we're
now
going
to
enter
adjourned
from
the
work
session
and
we're
going
to
the
closed
session.