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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 01/11/2022
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A
The
recording
is
on
so
we
have
a
quorum,
so
we
will
get
started
today.
Well,
welcome
salt
lake
city
and
welcome
to
this
january,
11th
salt
lake
city
council
work
session
only
meeting,
as
you
can
tell
we're
back
to
being
virtual
and
as
chair,
I
determined
after
looking
at
the
data
and
consulting
others,
that
an
anchor
location
presents
a
substantial
risk
to
the
health
and
safety
of
those
who
may
be
present.
A
That's
why
we
turn
back
to
the
virtual
public
meetings
and
we'll
return
back,
we'll
go
back
to
hybrid
or
in
person
as
soon
as
we
determine
it's
appropriate
and
safe.
A
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
in
your
first
meeting,
chairing
thanks
council
members
for
giving
us
a
chance
to
give
you
an
update.
If
council
staff
could
bring
the
slide
deck
up,
that'd
be
great
next
slide.
Please
thanks
isaac.
B
B
You
know
that
the
county
put
a
30-day
mask
requirement
in
place
until
february
7th,
and
that
includes,
when
you're
waiting
in
line
to
go
indoors,
so
even
driving
by
some
of
the
covet
lines
that
are
walk
up,
not
drive
up,
sometimes
I'll,
see.
People
without
masks
on
they're
now
required
to
be
wearing
masks,
whether
you're
waiting
to
get
into
a
restaurant
or
have
a
kova
test
or
for
anything
if
it's
a
public
space
and
you're
in
line
for
it,
masks
are
required
and
nearly
a
quarter
of
our
county
residents
are
still
unvaccinated.
B
So
if
you,
let's
say
that
you
had
both
of
your
shots
done
and
the
second
shot
was
more
than
six
months
ago
and
you
have
not
had
a
booster
shot,
then
you'd
be
considered
in
that
unvaccinated
population.
Next
slide,
please.
B
This
is
salt
lake
city's
case
data
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
really
only
have
through
january
5th,
of
course,
today's
the
11th.
So
it's
not
as
up
to
date
as
some
of
what
is
just
starting
to
come
out
through
the
state
in
the
last
hour,
but
not
looking
good
for
us
as
a
city,
just
as
that,
it
is
for
the
rest
of
the
state
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
one
from
dr
dunn's
presentation
to
the
county
council
and
they
meet
at
essentially
the
same
time
as
you
all
meet.
B
So
this
is
new
slide
data
that
we're
kind
of
plucking
from
the
county
council
meeting
and
just
bringing
to
you.
I
don't
have
any
notes
to
go
along
with
it,
but
interesting
information
on
icu
capacity
coming
from
the
county
health
department
and
next
slide
also
showing
hospitalizations
on
the
rise
and,
as
you
know,
with
the
case
numbers,
we
see
a
one
to
two
week
delay
in
those
cases
that
will
need
hospitalization
ending
up
presenting
at
the
hospital.
B
So
this
we're
just
beginning
to
see
the
effects
in
the
hospital
of
the
wave
that
started
early
last
week,
which
is
predictable
with
the
delay,
and
our
last
slide,
for
this
section
is
the
full
zip
code.
We
apologize
that
last
week,
84
101,
I
believe,
was
accidentally
edited
as
we
tried
to
zoom
in
and
show
the
numbers
bigger.
B
So
I
think
we,
I
hope
we
have
all
of
our
zip
codes
represented
here-
citywide
average,
as
I
said,
about
67,
and
not
seeing
a
great
deal
of
of
change
in
the
last
week,
but
I'll
just
take
this
chance
again
to
encourage
anyone,
who's
listening,
who
is
not
up
to
date
on
your
vaccines
to
go
to
this
is
our
shot.com
or
dot
org,
and
you
can
find
out
when
you
can
get
your
free,
no
appointment,
necessary
vaccine
and
dramatically
increase
your
potential
of
not
having
to
be
hospitalized.
B
A
Mr
chair,
I
think
I
saw
it
how's.
My
model
still
hold
on.
I
just
saw
the
council
member
for
allen,
has
a
question.
C
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
considered
unvaccinated.
Does
this
mean
that
people
need
to
go
get
re-vaccinated?
Do
we
have
that.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
I'm
sure
that
I
could
have
explained
it
better.
But
when
you
go
when
you
go
to
the
salt
lake
county
health
department,
covid
dashboard
and
you
look
at
the
countywide
case,
numbers
you'll
see
in
blue
the
majority
of
the
cases.
And
then,
if
you
look
at
the
breakthrough
tab,
those
will
appear
in
sort
of
pink
color.
B
C
Case
more
of
a
statistical
thing
than
it
is
a
so
it's
tracking,
it's
tracking
those
stats,
rather
than
saying,
if
you
haven't
had
your
booster,
you
have
to
start
all
over
again
right,
it's
sort
of,
if
I
can
say
kind
of
less,
of
a
health
thing
and
more
of
a
stack
thing.
B
Well,
the
risk
is,
you
can
see
in
the
way
that
the
county
is
quantifying
the
positive
cases
that
the
risk
for
hospitalization
is
similar
more
similar
between
completely
unvaccinated,
and
if
your
vaccination
is
out
of
date,
then,
if
you're,
fully
vaccinated
and
up
to
date
on
your
booster
and
out
of
date
on
your
vaccine,
if
that
makes
sense,
your
risk
of
hospitalization
is
far
greater
if
you're
not
up
to
date
on
your
vaccine.
So
the
blue
case
numbers
that
you
see
on
the
county
site.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
question
is
on
the
mask
mandate,
and
I
know
this
might
not
be
a
question
for
you,
madam
me,
or
maybe
it's
for
angela,
dr
dunn,
but
I
know
I've
been
hearing
more
about
how
omicron
is
less
protected
by
cloth
masks
and
that
we
really
need
to
be
wearing
the
n95
masks.
Is
that
at
all
talked
about
in
the
mask
mandate,
or
is
it
purely
any
kind
of
mask
that
is
mandated.
B
Sorry,
I
was
muted,
are
you?
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
council
members?
Okay,
my
screen
is
frozen,
so
I
I
can't
see
you,
but
they
do
specify
n95
masks
and
a
number
of
other
respirator
types,
but
that
you
know,
as
I
think
their
research
has
progressed
throughout
the
pandemic.
B
We
are
seeing
that
k
and
95
masks
are
dramatically
more
protective
than
cloth
masks
and,
even
unfortunately,
more
so
than
our
beautiful
salt
lake
city
flag,
masks
that
we
had
made
so
that
they
are
specific
about
n95s
in
the
county.
Mass
order.
E
The
first
slide
you're
going
to
see
is
the
flow
occupancy
for
the
week
of
the
first
week
of
the
year
first
through
the
7th
of
january,
for
those
of
you
who
are
paying
attention
to
memorizing
the
numbers
week
to
week,
you'll
notice
that
it's
gone
down
in
occupancy
since
the
previous
week
over
the
holidays,
mostly
related
to
the
miller
mixed
resource
center.
That's
dropped
to
94
occupancy
the
first
week
of
a
month
generally
does
see
lower
numbers.
That's
not
too
unexpected,
however,
the
overall
average
is
still
above
97
for
all
of
them.
E
On
the
far
right,
you'll
see
st
vincent
de
paul,
the
dining
hall
overflow,
that's
been
open
for
several
weeks
now.
We've
talked
before
that
it
has
an
official
bed
capacity
of
58
beds,
but
because
people
will
cycle
through
those,
they
keep
the
total
number
of
folks
who
came
in
on
on
average
per
night,
and
you
can
see
they're
filling
those
and
more
every
night.
There
really
is
literally
no
no
space
there
we'll
talk
about
the
other
other
flows
in
a
moment.
Next
slide.
E
We
did
end
resource
fairs
for
last
year,
but
they're
planning
another
one.
For
this
month.
Location
will
be
determined
shortly,
the
probably
depending
on
whether
and
also
the
overflow
status
of
the
former
ramada
inn,
cleaning
and
abatements
have
been
on
hold
for
the
most
part.
Cleanings
have
happened,
but
not
abatements.
E
The
health
department
and
the
city
are
talking
this
week
about
locations
that
may
need
to
be
addressed
sooner
than
later,
and
the
occupied
vehicle
response
we've
talked
about
for
several
weeks
now
is
up
and
running.
It's
a
pretty
regular
schedule
about
twice
a
week
police
department
and
the
compliance
department
get
together
and
go
and
address
reported
cars
that
have
been
in
stationary
for
a
long
period
of
time
on
certain
areas
and
request
them
to
follow
the
ordinance
to
to
move
within
48
hours.
E
Those
that
are
abandoned,
obviously
or
just
being
for
storage
may
be
towed,
other
ones
that
are
occupied
right
now.
There's
an
interaction
between
the
outreach
teams,
the
city
departments,
obviously,
and
the
overflows
as
they
come
online
to
try
and
make
sure
that
folks
get
inside
instead
of
just
lose
the
place
to
stay.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
discussion
among
all
those
providers
and
those
can
be
reported
again
through
the
salt
lake
city
app,
which
is
the
the
best
way
to
do
that
next
slide.
E
E
The
thai
needs
temporary
housing
program.
Formerly
the
ramada
inn
on
redwood
road
is
will
be
opening
in
stages.
The
first
stage
will
probably
begin
next
monday,
the
18th,
but
that
will
be
a
referral
only
stage.
They've
got
a
list
of
about
150
individuals
over
the
age
of
65,
who
are
either
unsheltered
camping
or
in
the
current
resource
centers
and
those
with
some
underlying
medical
conditions
that
are
higher
vulnerability
for
health
problems.
E
E
The
best
way
to
get
access
for
everybody
in
the
public
is
still
the
801
990-9999
number
the
utah
community
action
man's
24
hours
a
day.
It's
the
best
way
to
get
information
on
availability
to
get
into
the
system
to
get
referred
to
the
right
place.
So
you
don't
go
from
place
to
place.
Looking
for
a
for
a
bad
opening,
I
encourage
everyone
to
use
that
number.
F
You
and
congratulations,
mr
chair
dugan,
on
your
new
assignment
you
and
vice
chair
mono.
Congratulations!
Look
forward
to
working
with
you
this
year,
council,
it's
good
to
be
with
you
again.
If
you
could,
please
bring
up
my
slide
deck
this
week,
I'd
like
to
review
a
couple,
a
few
of
the
goals
that
come
from
our
revised
control
crime
control
plan
that
mayor
minnie,
mendenhall
myself
rolled
out.
It's
probably
been
a
couple
months
and
we've
been
speaking
to
over
the
last
few
weeks.
F
Next
slide.
Please
and
the
first
goal
that
we
want
to
talk
about
is
response
times
and
give
you
an
update
on
response
times
the
response
times
for
december
of
2021
for
priority.
One
calls
priority
two
calls
and
prior
three
calls
are
1046
respectively
for
priority
ones:
1655
for
priority
twos
and
3547
for
priority
threes,
now
keep
in
mind
that
priority
ones
are
in
progress.
Emergency
9-1-1
calls
persons
crimes,
ones
that
are
of
the
highest
emergency
that
we
will
drop
everything
we
can
and
try
to
get
to
next
slide.
Please.
F
F
F
This
is
a
this
is
a
huge
improvement
and
we're
making
good
progress
on
this.
Although
it's
good,
there's
still
more
still
more
work
to
do
it's
my
goal
in
a
priority,
one
response
that
we
be
under
10
minutes,
and
so
we
will
continue
to
work
on
that
and
look
at
different
ways
that
we
can
achieve
that
goal
and
council
as
we
go
along.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
we
don't
have
to
wait
till
the
end.
Please
raise
your
hand
or
jump
in
now.
F
When
you
compare
that
to
2020,
which
was
up
substantially,
I
mean
everybody
said:
2020
was
this
anomaly
of
a
year,
but
2021
is
an
anomaly
plus
some
we're
still
going
on
more
calls
for
service.
We
went
to
176
more
calls
for
service
in
2021.,
so
the
calls
for
service
are
still
increasing.
If
you
look
over
the
year,
the
year
of
2021,
our
officers
responded
to
127
668
calls
for
service.
F
One
of
the
strategies
of
the
revised
control
crime
control
plan
is
the
inf
to
implement
and
expand
our
telephonic
and
reporting
capabilities.
So
what
we've
done?
In
october,
the
salt
lake
city
police
department
started
a
program
to
increase
the
number
of
officers
available
to
take
those
telephonic
calls
for
service.
F
So
from
october,
20th
of
2021
to
january
3rd
of
2022
salt
lake
city
police
department
officers
handled
2092
calls
for
service.
In
this
telephonic
response,
these
officers
generated
577
reports.
That's
29
of
those
2000
calls.
Reports
are
written.
The
thing
to
understand
is
these
calls
will
sit
in
a
queue
and
wait
for
officers
to
be
dispatched
on
this
new
program.
F
These
telephonic
officers
are
taking
these
calls
for
service,
freeing
up
the
officers
on
the
street
to
go
and
to
handle
those
high
priority
in
progress
emergencies.
The
average
telephonic
officer
is
handling
about
29
calls
for
service
per
shift,
which
is
a
huge
improvement
and
council
as
we
move
forward.
This
will
go
into
our
police
civilian
response
team,
but
this
is
a
great
program
just
to
launch
us
forward,
as
we
move
into
different
ways
and
strategies
to
reduce
the
calls
for
service
that
our
officers
are
going
on
any
questions,
if
not
next
slide.
F
F
In
the
last
28
days,
five
of
the
seven
council
districts
show
a
drop
in
violent
crime
and
property
crime,
not
only
in
those
28
days,
but
in
the
seven
days
as
well.
Now
this
is
this
is
good
news,
but
there's
still
more
work
to
do
and
to
to
kind
of
illustrate
that
point.
We
had
a
our
weapons
offenses.
If
you
look
there
on
the
bottom
are
up
33
percent
in
the
last
28
days.
F
Our
officers
got
on
scene
and
found
that
six
bullet
holes
had
pierced
through
that
apartment,
but
not
just
one
two,
thank
goodness.
Nobody
was
there
and
nobody
was
injured.
So
that's
the
good
news,
but
on
paper,
violent
crime
is
down
10
in
the
last
28
days,
but
for
that
family,
and
maybe
those
families
living
in
that
apartment,
violent
crime
is
up,
and
it's
probably
at
an
all-time
high
for
them.
F
F
There
is
a
high
number
of
I'm
sorry
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'm
behind
on
the
slides
next
slide.
Please.
F
There
they
are
eight
female
officers,
a
large
group
of
that
this
class
has
a
diverse
background
and
very
unique
life
experiences.
We
welcome
to
that.
To
that
day,
they
were
sitting
in
there
in
their
best
clothes,
their
ties
and
suits,
but
before
the
day
was
over,
they
were
doing
push-ups,
so
we're
excited
to
have
them.
They're,
they're,
they're,
welcome
and
welcome
to
our
department
and
really
we've
talked
about
the
vacancies
we
have
with
the
hiring
of
these
27
recruits.
F
A
Thanks
for
that
information
chief
come
to
my
mono.
Did
you
have
a
question
on.
D
The
33
vacant
positions
is
that
how
many
does
that
include
the
unfunded
vacancies,
or
is
that
only
funded
vacancies?.
D
H
Hi
chief,
which
two
districts
did
not
see
a
decrease
in
crime.
F
I
believe
council
member,
it
was
district
one
in
district,
two.
H
A
Any
other
questions
for
the
chief
thanks
again
chief,
I
got
a
message
from
andrew
johnson.
He
wants
to
he's,
got
one
more
point
to
make
back
on
the
homeless
side.
So,
andrew
back
to
you,
hi.
E
E
It
just
takes
some
effort
really
and
driving
around
with
some
of
your
friends,
and
it
really
be
helpful
for
the
entire,
obviously
for
the
the
county
and
the
state
to
give
this
accurate
information
to
help
make
plans
and
also
get
the
funding
needed
for
services.
So,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
E
Can
you
say
that
website
again
sure
can
endure
homelessness,
dot,
org
and
then
you'll
find
a
point
in
time
count
link
on
there.
It's
just
forward
slash
point
dash
in
dash
time
dash
count
forward.
Slash
you'll,
see
when
you
get
to
the
website.
There
and
they'll
have
a
scroll
down
to
get
to
this.
Like
salt
lake
city
and
there's
actually
a
link
there.
You
can
fill
out
everything
online.
C
I'm
not
the
chair
anymore,
I'm
good,
so
cheers
for
that.
Now,
andrew
you
mentioned,
you
would
get
that
to
us
if
you
would
that'd
be
great
I'd
love
to
put
an
email
blast
out
for
people
at
my
last
sugar
house,
community
council
meeting
and
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
just
what
we're
doing
right
now
during
these
cold
temperatures
with
people
experiencing
homelessness.
So
I
would
love
to
do
an
email
blast
to
those
people
signed
up
for
my
email
newsletter.
C
So
if
you
could
get
that
to
us,
this
is
mostly
me
also
being
like
hey
staff.
Please
help
me
do
that.
Also
I,
like
that
haircut
andrew
looking
dapper,
I
I
mean
I
have
to
admit
I
do
miss
the
like
mad
professor
look,
but.
E
I
appreciate
both
offers
well
the
offer
and
the.
E
Very
kind,
I
will
definitely
get
the
information
out
to
the
council
staff
and
council
members
as
soon
as
I
can
even
today,
so
you
can
have
that
and
send
it
out
if
you
feel
I'm
so
obliged.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
A
A
F
F
A
Thank
you
chief.
Any
other
updates,
madam
mayor.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
I
appreciate
all
your
help
and
support
here.
We'll
move
on
item
number
two.
There
is
no
update
today
for
the
racial
equity.
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
three,
which
is
they
pull
it
up?
The
amendments
require
a
notice
for
permits
to
work
in
the
public
way
follow-up
and
on
our
screen.
We
should
have
nick
tarbot
kimberly
citrus,
the
senior
city
attorney
and
matt
casale,
the
city
engineer
I
see
nick
and
kimberly
take
it
away.
Nick
and
there's
matt.
I
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
this
is
an
item
that
is
about
a
year
in
the
making.
The
council
was
first
briefed
on
this
last
january
and,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
for
proposed
amendments
to
city
code
for
permit
applications
for
construction
work
in
the
public
right-of-way.
I
The
council
had
a
briefing
on
this
last
january
and
a
public
hearing
after
the
public
hearing.
There
was
another
briefing
where,
based
on
public
comments,
the
council
asked
for
some
changes
to
the
proposed
ordinance.
Those
key
changes
included
that
underground
work
would
be
part
of
the
notification
requirements
as
well.
I
So
those
are
the
changes
the
council
directed
this
staff
to
make.
They
have
been
made.
There's
a
table
on
page
two
of
your
briefing
materials
that
outlines
where
those
were
included
in
the
draft
ordinance,
and
so
what
we're
asking
here
today
is
if
these
changes
met
the
expectations
of
the
council.
If
we
successfully
did
that,
if
so
we're
recommending
that
we
now
put
these
out
to
public
comment,
there
was
quite
a
few
that
were
interested
in
this
during
the
initial
public
hearing.
I
Some
of
these
changes
probably
won't
satisfy
their
concerns,
but
we
still
want
to
reach
back
out
to
all
the
stakeholders
so
they're
aware
of
them,
and
we
can
get
any
more
public
feedback.
So
that's
the
intro.
If
does
that
council
members
have
any
questions
on
these.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
I
I
think
this
for
me
at
least
it
addresses
some
of
the
issues
that
we
heard
at
the
last
briefing.
I
didn't
notice,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
this-
that
in
the
project
timeline,
we
have
two
public
hearings
set.
Is
this
because
we
have
gone
back
to
remote
and
we
sort
of
had
an
unofficial
policy
of
having
two
public
hearings
when
we
are
remote,
rather
than
I
mean
we,
we
kept.
C
G
It's
not
our
intention
to
return
to
that
approach
unless
asking
the
council,
and
so
this
is
the
second
hearing,
because
it
is,
it
is
modified,
but
I
don't
think
we
intend
to
have
two
more
hearings.
C
C
G
And
people
from
the
public,
we
had
some
complaints
about
doing
too
because
it
was,
it
was
creating
some
confusions.
A
You
know
in
the
past
a
lot
of
times
a
phone
number
was
for
a
verizon
or
some
worker
that
was
out
of
state
at
the
local
area,
and
it
was
not
a
local
contact.
Information
is
the
contact
information
going
to
be
provided
going
to
be
a
local
person
that
they
can
actually
talk
to,
and
is
there
going
to
be
just
more
than
just
that
one-time
communication
with
the
property
owners.
I
Can
I
I
apologize
if
I
may
ask
matt
to
respond
to
that
one.
J
A
A
Okay,
because
I
know,
there's
been
some
requests
for
more
than
just
once,
but
let
me
go
back
at
some
of
my
emails
and
look
at
that.
I
know
this
is
kind
of
a
slowing
down
the
process,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
getting
the.
They
know
that,
when
works
going
in
front
of
their
yard,
that
they're
not
getting
their
strip
torn
up
without
their
notice.
J
K
So
so
that
phone
number
that
that
needs
to
be
provided
will
that
be
for
troubleshooting.
So
some
of
our
constituents
are
saying:
hey
they're,
doing
work
outside
my
sidewalk
and
there's
a
bunch
of
equipment
left
over
and
it's
midnight,
and
I
cannot
access.
You
know
my
house
or
my
driveway.
K
J
Right,
it
is
for
that
that
will
help
them
as
construction
is
going
on
when
there's
problems
they
have
contact.
Our
information
will
also
be
on
that
that
form.
So
we'll
have
our
contact
information,
the
contractor's
information.
We
always
try
to
have
the
people
closest
to
the
project
being
able
to
handle
those
issues.
If
the
contractor's
not
around
are
not
able
to
it,
then
they
have
another
phone
number
to
contact
us
and
we
can
try
to
help
resolve
the
problem.
K
I
May
I
ask
one
question
for
staff
so
and,
and
I
apologize
councilmember
fowler,
so
our
intent
is
to
have
one
more
public
hearing
where
the
public
can
come
and
comment
on.
It's
not
to
it's,
just
we'll
set
it
up
for
february,
so
that
there's
time
we
will
send
this
to
the
stakeholders
I'll
work
with
the
ad
administration
to
get
to
those
stakeholders
and
make
sure
everybody
cares
about
this.
A
Thank
you
nick.
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
to
item
number
four
and
a
briefing
on
the
city's
annual
financial
audit
report.
I
have
cindy
gus
jensen
sitting
in
for
jennifer
bruno.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
we
have
paul
skein
and
michael
mickelson.
Eyed
bailey
is
our
audit
firm,
the
contract
for
the
audit
annual
financial
audit
for
salt
lake
city
is
with
the
legislative
body.
So
it
is
your
contract
and
it's
also
yours
as
the
rda
board.
G
So
the
city
council
by
statute
is
responsible
to
assure
that
the
city's
finances
are
audited
annually
and
this
is
the
the
mechanism
to
do
that.
There
are
many
component
parts
to
it.
Component
parts
is
a
is
a
specialized
term,
but
pieces
I'll,
say
many.
Many
pieces
are
chunks
to
it.
There's
the
airport
audit
that's
done
separately,
the
public
utilities
audit,
but
those
all
wrap
up
into
being
your
responsibility.
As
a
city
council,
today's
briefing
will
focus
largely
on
the
the
main
city
city
budget
and
audit.
G
They
work
very
closely
with
the
administration
on
this,
the
firm
that
we
have
on
contract.
We
try
to
also
include
in
their
contract
opportunity
for
follow-up
work
in
case
that
city
council
has
some
questions
that
they
would
like
expert
help
on.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
As
you
have
questions
throughout
the
year,
they
can
be
a
resource
for
you,
so
I
will
turn
the
time
now
over.
Unless
mary
beth
would
like
to
say,
something
will
turn
the
time
over
to
either
paul
or
michael,
not
sure
who
will
take
the
lead.
L
Cindy,
thank
you.
This
is
paul.
You
gave
all
the
things
that
I
hoped
to
do
as
my
introduction
just
pointing
out.
I'm
sorry,
oh
no,
you
you
do
it
very
well
just
to
reinforce
what
cindy
shared
is
that
we
are
employed
and
contracted
by
the
council,
not
by
the
financial
management
team,
and
so
in
that,
in
the
spirit
of
that
we
do
want
to
make
ourselves
available
to
the
council.
L
Should
there
be
follow-up
questions
or
things
you
would
like
a
deeper
dive
on
mike
and
myself
are
available
at
your
request
to
address
those
issues.
That
said,
we
spend
about
the
vast
majority
of
our
time,
working
with
the
financial
team,
probably
to
your
relief.
L
We
I'll
give
you
the
the
reader's
digest
version
of
our
reporting
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
finding
or
two
that
we
had.
L
The
audit
was
a
clean
audit,
meaning
we
issued
an
unqualified
opinion.
There
were
no
exceptions
to
our
opinion
that
it's
a
substantial
amount
of
work
that
goes
into
getting
to
that
point.
We
typically
start
our
procedures,
the
end
of
july,
and
we
issued
on
december
23rd,
I
believe
this
year,
so
it
does
take
a
significant
amount
of
time
by
the
financial
team
and
our
team
to
to
make
this
happen.
L
A
couple
of
things
to
to
note
mary
beth
has
put
together
a
fantastic
team.
The
the
accounting
world
is
like
many
other
industries
where
talent
is
is
hard
to
come
by,
and
this
is
as
strong
a
team
as
as
we've
worked
with
very,
very
capable
individuals,
they
take
their
jobs
very
serious.
They
are
very
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
they're
performing
their
duties
in
a
way
that
protects
the
city
and
and
reports
things
accurately.
L
One
of
the
the
key
members
of
the
team,
teresa
beckstrand,
will
be
retiring
and
has
had
a
part
in
the
audit
for
decades,
and
it
is
a
critical
knowledge
source,
and
so
as
that
transition
has
been
taking
place
and
working
towards
that
there
are
a
lot
of
complexities
and
and
a
lot
of
work
reconciling
different
statements.
Different
accounts,
different
departments.
L
We
just
emphasize
the
importance
to
do
really
a
deep
dive
and
make
sure
that
there
aren't
any
of
those
things
that
have
become
institutional
knowledge
that
are
retiring
with
teresa,
that
those
are
covered
and-
and
so
that
will
be
a
challenge
for
mary
beth
and
her
team
this
year
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
anything
that
that's
missed
in
in
the
transition
process,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
the
team
and
their
ability
to
do
that.
L
But
there's
there's
a
lot
to
to
document
and
to
make
sure
it's
it's
tied
down
in.
In
that
spirit,
there
were
a
couple
of
areas
where
we
found
and
some
of
it's
due
to
the
timing
of
the
audit.
We
don't
wait
until
the
books
are
completely
closed
to
start
our
audit
procedures,
or
we
would
never
issue
by
december,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
of
work
that
the
financial
team's
doing
to
close
out
as
we're
starting
to
test,
and
there
were
a
number
of
areas,
one
area
that
we
want
to
emphasize.
L
That
has
been
troublesome,
not
from
a
reporting
standpoint,
because
we've
got
to
the
right
number
every
year.
But
there
is
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
making
sure
that
the
housing
loans
are
reconciled
to
the
records
that
the
financial
team
has,
and
I
know
that
there's
been
a
system
transition
there,
that
the
team,
both
teams
on
the
housing
side
and
the
financial
management
side
have
worked
hard
to
to
implement
that,
and
that
should
help.
L
But
we
just
that
was
one
of
those
areas
where
reconciliation
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
made
sure
that
that
all
those
accounts
are
tied
down
again
by
the
time
we
issue
the
audit
we've
got
it
taken
care
of,
but
I
think
that
would
save
headache
on
both
sides.
If,
if
there
were
some
more
effort
in
the
interim
put
into
making
sure
that
those
things
are
taken
care
of
so
with
our
roles,
I'm
responsible
for
the
overall
financial
audit.
L
As
far
as
the
annual
comprehensive
financial
report,
which
is
what
I've
just
talked
about
mike
mickelson,
one
of
my
partners
handles
the
single
audit,
which
is
the
testing
of
the
federal
expenditures
and
then
also
the
state,
compliance
and
internal
control,
work
and
so
I'll.
Let
him
talk
a
little
bit
about
those
reports
and
then
we'll
wrap
up.
M
Thanks
paul,
in
addition
to
the
auditor's
report
and
the
acfr,
we've
also
issued
a
single
audit
reporting
package
that
includes
three
additional
auditors
reports.
The
first
one
deals
with
government
auditing
standards
by
state
statute,
any
governmental
entity
in
the
state
of
utah
that
has
a
financial
statement.
Audit
is
required
to
have
that
audit
performed
in
accordance
with
government
auditing
standards.
M
So
the
report
deals
with
internal
control
over
financial
reporting
and
compliance
and
other
matters
in
the
section
related
to
the
internal
control
over
financial
reporting.
We
referred
to
a
couple
of
findings
in
the
back
of
our
report
that
are
documented
there
that
paul's
already
discussed.
They
were
related
to
a
couple
of
the
things
in
the
financial
statement.
Audit.
M
M
M
This
year
we
had
none,
so
the
two
that
we
had
last
year
have
been
resolved.
Well,
I
know
that
one
of
them
has
been
resolved.
I'll
put
it
that
way.
The
fraud
risk
assessment
that
the
state
auditor's
office
requires
government
entities
to
complete
and
review
with
a
governing
body
was
completed
during
fiscal
2021..
M
The
other
one
from
the
prior
year
was
related
to
the
use
of
the
bnc
road
funds,
and
that's
something
that
we
just
have
to
audit
every
third
year,
and
so
we
didn't
audit
that
this
year,
but
based
on
our
inquiries
this
year,
his
follow-up
there
was
that
that
has
been
resolved.
There
have
been
procedures
put
in
place
to
make
sure
that
the
type
of
expenditure
that
snuck
through
last
year
won't
sneak
through
again,
and
so
this
year
we
had
an
unmodified
report
on
state
compliance
with
no
state
compliance
findings.
M
So
the
risk
based
approach
we
have
in
selecting
those
major
programs
requires
that
programs
over
a
certain
level
be
audited
once
every
three
years,
and
so
cdbg
came
up
again
this
year
for
audit,
along
with
those
covert
relief
funds.
M
So
that
report
related
to
the
single
audit
discloses
no
instances
of
non-compliance
and
no
instances
of
internal
control
related
to
non-compliance,
and
so
I'm
going
to
emphasize
how
good
that
is
this
year,
with
the
volume
of
covert
related
money
and
brand
new
programs
out
there
and
some
cases
where
the
federal
government
continues
to
change,
how
those
programs
should
be
run
from
month
to
month
to
not
have
a
finding
in
those
new
covid
programs
is
really
exceptional.
G
Michael,
I'm
sorry
this
is
cindy.
Could
I
ask
you
something
on
that
to
clarify,
certainly
when
you
were
saying
that
you
did
a
lot
of
auditing
at
the
airport,
which
is
always
the
case
in
terms
of
their
federal
funds
and
grants
and
such
and
then,
when
you're
speaking,
of
covert
program
funds?
G
Tell
us
how
much
you
worked
on
the
funds
that
came
to
the
city
for
distribution
to
various
programs
and
organizations
and
such
was
that
a
was
it
mostly
airport,
or
did
you
were
able
to
get
a
handle
on
the
other
funds?
I
know
you
only
have
to.
You:
can
only
do
a
certain
amount.
M
So
that's
a
great
question.
Thank
you
for
asking
that.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
we
had
four
major
programs
and
the
airport
was
only
one
of
the
four.
The
other
two
that
were
coveted
related
relate
to
the
emergency
rental
assistance
and
the
coronavir
relief
fund,
and
both
those
programs
are
at
the
city.
M
Great
now,
volume
wise
the
airport
was
the
biggest
chunk
of
the
total
funds
that
we
did
audit,
but
those
two
programs
were
specifically
at
the
city,
not
at
the
airport,
and
we
looked
at
those
great,
that's
great
yeah
and
because
I
was
sure,
as
I
was
getting
ready
to
say,
we
did
do
a
bunch
of
pushing
back
on
the
coronavirus
relief
fund,
because
that
one
lets
you
use
the
money
for
anything
related
to
covid.
Well,
anything
related
to
covet
is
kind
of
broad,
and
so
there
were
some
expenditures
there.
M
M
Because
some
things
are
pretty
obvious,
you
know
ppe
and
those
types
of
things,
but
there
were
other
instances
of
of
things,
expenditures
that
seemed
less
obvious
to
us,
but
in
every
case
documentation
was
provided
and
an
explanation
was
provided
and
how
they
were
related
to
related
to
covet,
whether
it's
you
know
remote
working
for
employees
or
actual
testing.
M
M
So
that's
the
summary
of
that
report
related
to
the
federal
funds
at
the
end
of
the
document
is
management's
summary
of
the
findings
from
last
year
and
how
those
have
been
remediated
if
you
want
to
go,
read
that,
but
all
of
those
have
been
remediated
and
it
also
talks
about
the
findings
that
paul
has
already
discussed
related
to
his
audit
of
the
financial
statements.
So
any
questions
on
what
we
do
on
the
federal
side.
C
Thank
you,
hi,
michael,
it's
good
to
see
you
again,
hi
paul.
When
you
were
talking
about
the
remediation
of
the
federal
compliance
I
mean.
I
know
that
the
covid
we
didn't
have
anything,
but
you
also
mentioned
the
some
compliance
issues
from
last
year
that
have
since
been
taken
care
of
that
was
on
a
state
level
right.
C
Okay
and
where
in
the
report,
because
it's
a
I
appreciate
this-
it's
a
long
wordy
report.
Oh,
can
I
find
those
that
compliance
and
how
the
city
fixed
its
compliance
issues.
M
Okay,
that's
a
good
question
and
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
The
requirements
are
for
the
and
financial
statement,
findings
and
the
federal
findings,
and
so
the
the
state
ones
don't
go
into
that
report
of
the
remediation
report
at
the
back.
So
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I
did
report
verbally
that
they
had
been
remediated
so.
C
Okay,
can
I
was
it
just
like
a
procedure
thing.
M
Okay,
so
last
year
there
were
two
state
compliance
findings,
one
of
them
related
to
this
broad
risk
assessment
that
the
state
auditors
prepared
and
has
government
entities
go
through
and
it
kind
of
is
signs
based
on
the
score.
You
get
whether
you're
a
high
risk
or
low
risk
or
moderate
risk
related
to
fraud,
and
that's
required
to
be
prepared
and
reviewed
with
the
city
council
in
2020.
That
was
not
done.
M
We
verified
through
the
minutes
and
saw
the
document
that
that
was
done
in
2021,
the
other
finding
related
to
expenditures
for
bnc
road
funds
and
the
prior
year.
There
was
an
expenditure
that
was
very
trivial,
but
compliance
testing
is
yes
or
no
versus
whether
it's
material
or
not.
So,
even
though
it
was
trivial,
we
had
to
to
report
the
one
instance
of
an
expenditure
that
did
not
comply
with
the
bnc
road
requirements
from
the
state
this
year,
based
on
our
inquiry.
M
Since
we
didn't
have
to
audit
it,
they
put
more
stringent
reviews
in
place
so
that
that
type
of
expenditure
doesn't
happen
again,
and
that
was,
I
think
it
had
to
do
with
a
gift,
a
retirement
gift
or
something,
and
while
employment,
salaries
and
and
related
benefits
are
allowable
end
of
employment.
Gifts
are
not
part
of
what's
allowable,
for
b
and
c
roads,
and
so
that
snuck
through
in
20
and
21,
they
say
they
looked
at
things,
much
tighter
and
much
harder
to
make
sure
nothing
like
that.
C
C
I
am
curious
a
little
bit
on
the
housing
division,
loans
and
what
I
mean
I
I
know
that
we
we
have
an
exemplary
thumbs
up
from
you
guys,
but
I'm
just
curious
and
sort
of
a
little
more
information
on
on
what
you
saw
there
and
what
that
looks
like
and
if
there's
something
from
a
policy
standpoint
that
we
need
to
be
considering.
I
know
that
you
probably
don't
have
recommend
recommendations
for
policies
but
just
sort
of
what
maybe
you've
found
there.
L
Yeah
yeah,
I
can
dive
a
little
deeper
into
that.
I
don't
know
that
I
would
say
that
there's
a
policy
adjustment
that
needs
to
be
made,
it's
more,
that
the
the
communications
and
the
data
transfer
between
housing
and
and
the
financial
team
needs
to
be
improved.
I
think
the
awareness
of
the
issue
will
help
essentially
housing
tracks.
L
The
loan
balances
in
their
own
system
that
that's
not
integrated
into
the
financial
reporting
system
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
getting
updated
and
timely
information
to
the
financial
team
in
order
to
close
their
financial
records
has
been
a
little
problematic.
So
housing
has
has
a
new
system
to
track
those.
L
We
had
a
few
wrinkles
that
we
worked
through
as
we
tested
that
that
were
resolved
again,
so
it,
as
you
said
it
all
washed
out
in
a
way
that
was
satisfactory
and
we
got
the
right
number
there.
C
C
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
had
all
of
that
information
clear
for
me.
So
absolutely
at
this
point,
after
working
with
can
and
housing,
it's
it.
What
I'm
understanding,
I'm
just
going
to
put
it
in
layman's
terms,
so
I
make
sure
I
get
it
all.
Is
that
there's
sort
of
more
of
a
communication
follow
through
keep
track
of
things
and
then
make
sure
finance
had
it,
so
they
understood
so
that
we
weren't
doing
all
of
this
sort
of
end
of
the
year
stuff
right
that
we
kind
of
could
keep
track
throughout.
K
Okay,
council
member,
following
what
I
will
say,
is
the
new
erp.
You
hear
me
yeah
new
erp.
What
we
are
hoping
is
that
new
erp
will
do
full
integration
with
their
new
systems.
So
then
those
receivables
and
the
revenues
coming
in
will
be
balanced
on
a
monthly
basis,
rather
than
happening
to
have
this
outside
subsystem
and
not
communicating
with
the
financial
system.
C
K
K
Council,
chair
can
I
also
bring
up.
I
have
to
mention
that
risk
assessment
that
mike
mickelson
was
discussing.
I
need
to
present
it
to
you
officially,
so
I
am
presenting
it
to
you
officially
right
now
for
fiscal
year,
ending
2021
as
part
of
the
state
compliance
portion
of
the
yearly
financial
audit.
The
state
auditor's
office
requires
the
city
to
complete,
sign
and
present
the
council.
The
fraud
risk
assessment
document.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
mary
beth
and
also
thank
you,
michael
and
paul
for
the
briefing
and
the
report,
mary
beth
nice
work
and
kudos
to
your
your
team.
I
appreciate
that
very
much.
A
So,
there's
no
other
further
questions,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number,
five
redistricting
legal
requirements
and
considerations
boy.
This
is
a
good
one.
We
got
the
table
we
have
or
on
the
screen
someday
we're
going
to
have
a
table
where
we're
going
to
actually
have
people
sitting
on
a
table.
Just
have
positive
thoughts
about
that.
N
So
first
is
a
general
timeline
of
the
process
over
the
next
four
months.
This
week,
a
two-week
application
period
is
expected
to
begin
for
the
resident
advisory
commission.
This
commission
will
recommend
maps
to
the
council.
The
application
period
will
be
announced
through
all
of
the
council's
usual
communication
channels.
N
N
N
This
is
like
the
dedicated
web
page
for
the
budget,
so
it's
updated
periodically
as
the
process
moves
forward
and
it's
the
central
location
for
briefing
videos
timeline.
Summaries
of
what's
happened,
documents,
mapping,
files,
everything
that
we
can
put
in
one
place.
So
it's
easy
to
find
we're
also
using
the
same
mapping
software
as
the
state
for
redistricting
and
the
cities.
Mapping
tool
is
going
to
have
some
additional
information,
such
as
a
layer
showing
a
population
heat
map,
and
this
includes
populations
for
specific
blocks.
N
N
N
C
Sorry,
mr
chair
ben
d,
we
have
a
a
graphic
of
the
timeline
for
this
that
we
can
send
out
to
like
our
different
community
councils
and
things.
I
know
that
in
my
community
council
I
mentioned
it
the
other
day
and
you
know
tried
to
encourage
people
to
refer
and
get
people
for
that
commission.
But
if,
if
I
don't
want
to
add
too
much
work,
but
if
we
could
get
maybe
a
graphic,
if
we
don't
have
one
already
of
the
timeline
that
might
be
helpful
for
residents
to
understand.
A
A
For
ben
is
this:
is
this
a
good
time
to
discuss
the
eligibility
of
the
working
group,
or
should
we
wait
until
after
katie's
briefing.
N
We
can
definitely
discuss
the
eligibility
if
you
had
a
specific
criteria.
You
wanted
to
bring
up
to
your
peers.
A
Yeah
is
this
I'm
looking
at
the
2011
staffing
report
on
the
eligibility
for
the
working
group
and
I'll
backtrack
in
2011.
They
had
one
member
from
each
district
plus
two
for
the
school
board.
We
don't
have
to
the
conservative
school
board
is
non-existent
now,
so
we
just
need
to
have
representative
from
the
seven
districts
we're
not
gonna.
A
We
don't
really
need
to
discuss
how
many
on
the
working
group
it
should
be
based
more
on
how
many
applications
we
have
but
their
eligibility,
what
we
did
from
in
2011,
and
we
could
get
a
straw
poll
going
here
so
then
we
can
put
out
the
application
and
they
said
that
the
eligibility
commission
members
are
not
considered
eligible
if
any
of
the
following
conditions
exist.
A
K
A
In
that
exception,
it's
not
says
that
they
are
resident,
but
the
way
we
were
looking
at
it,
I
think
in
the
past,
was
that
they
were
residents
of
each
of
the
districts.
K
A
So
they
were
actually
a
resident
with
an
address,
not
just
a
business
owner
of
the
app.
A
D
I
guess
my
one
question
would
be:
I
mean
we're
looking
at
how
I'm
looking
in
the
staff
report
about
the
the
piece
where
population
means
total
population.
However,
registered
voter
is
a
subset
of
the
total
population.
Would
we
have
any
interest
in,
but
you
know
like
the
council
districts
and
the
representation
from
the
accounts
on
the
city.
Council
affects
everyone
that
lives
in
the
district,
not
just
people
that
are
registered
voters
or
have
that
privilege
of
voting.
D
D
I
would
assume
not,
but
that's
one
thing
where
I
guess
I
would
want
to
discuss
with
the
rest
of
the
council,
whether
or
not
it's
appropriate
to
invite
people
that
that
are
not
registered
voters
to
participate
in
this
process,
because
in
the
end
it
affects
everybody,
not
just
people
that
are
registered
voters,
and
I
think
that
the
it
looks
like
court
case
law
indicating
that
districts
need
to
be
based
on
total
population,
not
voting
population.
D
I
think
could
be
good
basis
for
us
to
understand
that
this
affects
total
population,
not
just
the
voters,
so
should
we
include
total
population,
I
don't
necessarily
I'm
not
necessarily
advocating
for
that
yet,
but
I
would
like
to
discuss
that
with
the
rest
of
the
council.
A
C
I
mean
I'm
okay,
taking
away
barriers
as
much
as
we
can,
and
so,
if,
if
we
need
to
just
open
it
up,
if
we
take
that
away,
I'm
more
interested
in
how
long
or
how
connect
maybe
not
connected
is
the
wrong
word.
But
how
invested
a
member
of
our
community
is
in
their
district
with
the
knowledge
and
stuff?
Then
whether
or
not
they
can
vote
right
and
to
your
point,
councilmember
mono.
It
is
based
on
total
population,
not
total
voting
population.
C
So
you
know
luckily
felons
in
utah
can
still
vote,
but
there
are
other
reasons
that
people
may
not
be
eligible
to
vote,
but
we
would
still
want
to
hear
their
voice,
so
I
am
okay.
Taking
that
restriction,
that
sort
of
ineligibility
restriction
away
and
just
adding
the
and
I
think
it
it
was
in
there
one
of
the
the
one
of
the
qualifications
we
had
talked
about
last
year
is:
how
long
have
you
lived
in
the
district?
C
You
know
you
have
to
to
be
eligible
live
three
years
in
the
district
or
some
some
number
right
so
that
we
have
more
of
that
you're,
not
just
moving
in
and
then
saying.
Oh,
I
think
that
this
should
you
know
I've
lived
here
three
weeks
and
now
I
think
that
I
know
the
community
right,
but
you
have
some
longevity
there.
So
that's
more
important
to
me
than
to
your
point
councilman
romano
than
this
other
sort
of
restriction
and
barrier
that
we'd
be
putting
on
people
to
to
participate
in
this
council
member.
N
H
Going
to
that
question
of
voting
eligibility
would
we
be
considering
maybe
some
young
people,
like
some
16
and
17
year
olds,
who
are,
I
always
hate
that
they
get
so
left
out
of
processes
that
affect
them
into
their
adult
years?
But
as
we're
considering
amending
this,
it
would
be
potentially
interesting
to
give
some
young
people
a
chance
to
engage
if
we're
adjusting
requirements.
A
We
could
also
have
them
part
of
the
working
group,
but
maybe
not
a
non
or
as
a
non-voting.
Member
also
realize
what
I
listed
off
was
items
that
would
make
them
ineligible
not
eligible.
So
there's
there's
the
eligibility
is
opened
up.
The
in
eligible
is
the
part
that
we
were
constricting
them
as,
but
not
the
ineligible,
and
we
could
have
members
and
we
could
have
non-voting
members
on
that
working
group.
A
H
The
school
district
has
done
a
nice
job
of
integrating
young
people.
So
if
it's
something
we
decide
we
want
to
do,
it
might
be
worth
asking
them
how
they
have
done
that.
To
you
know
kind
of
we
do
need
an
element
of
efficiency
here
and
not
just
idealism,
but
that
might
be
a
good
place
to
help
us.
A
And-
and
these
working
group
meetings
are
all
open
to
the
public
and
then
everyone
will
also
have
the
opportunity
to
submit
their
own
redistrict
map,
and
then
that
goes
to
the
the
working
group
council
council.
K
Chair
go
ahead.
I
I
wanted
to.
I
will
be
very
supportive
of
the
idea
of
removing
registered
voters
from
yeah.
That's
you
know
as
a
requirement
for
for
it
for
it,
you
know,
and
I
I
think
that
it-
that
is
not
only
a
symbol,
but
it
means
a
lot
and
in
communities
like
mine,
so
I
will
be
very
supportive
of
removing
that.
K
I
mean
I
will
be
open
to
to
any
of
those,
but
you
know
ideally
you're
you're
for
the
first
one.
O
I'm
happy
to
jump
in
high
council
members,
I'm
katie
lewis,
salt
lake
city
attorney
and
I'm
here
with
boyd
ferguson
senior
city
attorney
and,
as
I
understand
it,
these
committees
are
being
created
to
assist
the
council
and
making
their
final
recommendation.
So
as
long
as
the
recommendation
complies
with
the
legal
standards
of
federal
state
and
city
code,
then
the
participants
in
the
recommending
committee
can
be
whoever
the
council
thinks
best
helps
you
make
your
decisions.
A
If
we
wanted
to
go
that
way,
unless
other
members
are
not
in
favor
of
restricting
the
eligibility
to
registered
voters.
H
N
G
Mr
chair,
one
another
question:
does
does
removing
the
registered
voter
requirement?
Take
us
back
to
the
question
that
council
member
baldomoros
asked
about
non-residents
of
salt
lake
city
people
who
do
not
have
an
address
in
salt
lake
city.
Or
do
you
feel
like
that?
That
item
is
decided
that
it
does
need
to
be
a
resident.
A
A
I
don't
maybe
not
a
registered
voter,
but
as
a
a
member
of
this
as
a
resident
of
the
city.
First
I'll
go
to
council
member
orton.
Yet
a
question
or
point.
K
Yeah,
I
guess
I-
and
this
is
probably
something
that'll
be
like
sorted
out
in
the
interviews
or
in
the
selection
process
for
these
positions.
But
I
like
the
idea
of
removing
the
are
you
registered
voters
so
that
we
can
have
you
know
people
that
maybe
are
non-citizens
or
people
that
are
under
age
18?
K
Is
I
wouldn't
like
to
have
somebody
on
the
redistricting
commission
or
on
this
committee
that
could
vote
is
eligible
to
vote
and
just
chooses
not
to
because
I
think,
if
you're,
not
a
voter
and
you're
not
does
that
make
sense?
I
don't
want
to
have
someone
on
there.
That
is,
has
a
lot
of
hot
takes
about
how
we
should
redistrict
the
city
but
hasn't
ever
been
invested
in,
and
you
know
following
the
city
issues
and,
and
you
know
exercising
their
franchise
when
they
have
the
right
to
do
so.
K
K
That's
really
interesting,
chris,
I
think
I
I
think
I
agree
with
chris
as
well.
K
I
don't
know
how
to
make
that
happen,
but
I
think
it's
important-
and
I
think-
and
I
want
to
bring
my
point
back
before
because
I
feel
like
there
are
many
property
owners
or
business
owners,
for
example,
in
district
4
that
might
not
live
here,
but
decisions
that
we
make
or
elected
officials
make
for
them
do
affect
them
and
they
contribute
to
our
budget
to
our
city,
to
our
you
know,
to
to
our
community
and
so
excluding
them,
I
think,
might
not
be
fair
in
my
opinion
and
all
so,
that's
one
thing
that
to
add
property
owners
or
business
owners,
but
also
on
the
resident
part.
K
I
don't
know
if
things
have
changed
for
people
that
want
to
rent
for
office,
but
you
have
to
have
lived
in
the
district
that
you're
running
for
for
at
least
12
months.
If
I
recall
right-
and
so
we
might
want
to
do
that
as
well
or
add
that
because
we
don't
want,
you
know
people
to
just
put
an
address,
you
know
they
just
decided
to
move
the
district
forward.
We
didn't
know
and
they
move
out
again
or
something
you
know
temporarily.
I
mean
I,
I
we're
getting
really
nitty-gritty,
but.
A
C
C
So
if
they
own
property
in
salt
lake
city
but
live
in
sandy,
then
they
get
a
point
for
and
they
voted
in
sandy
then
like
they
get
a
an
extra
thumbs
up
because
they
voted
in
sandy.
If,
like
voting
and
being
in
a
part
of
the
political
process,
is
important
but
also
being
a
property
owner
who
may
or
may
not
live
here
is
important.
I'm
not
sure
how
to
reconcile
that
that
something
that
could
be
a
contradiction
there.
I
mean
to
me
whether
or
not
you
vote.
C
Yes,
I
want
everybody
to
be
voting
but
seems
less
important
than
I
mean
if
somebody's
like
active
in
their
community,
but
just
for
whatever
reason
decides
not
to
vote
that
again.
If
we're
trying
to
sort
of
break
down
barriers.
C
I
put
the
residents
higher
than
the
property
owners
right,
because
what
our
decisions
affect
them
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
not
that
it
doesn't
affect
business
owners.
I
appreciate
you
kind
of
bringing
that
up
and
me
thinking
like
wanting
to
kind
of
mull
on
that
a
little
bit,
but
I
right
now
I
would
say
that
property
or
residents
have
like
that
higher
rung
for
me
on
being
on
that
working
group
than
property
owners.
Just
my
two
cents.
D
Yeah
thanks
my
two
cents
on
that
is
similar.
I
think
that
primarily
I
would
like
the
commission
to
be
consist
of
residents.
I
think
you
know
we
talked
about
one
from
each
district
and
then
some
at
large
members
or
additional
members,
and
maybe
the
at-large
members
can
be
business
owners.
I
think
I'm
more
interested
in,
I
think,
there's
a
distinction
between
well.
D
There
is
a
distinction
between
property
owners
and
business
owners
or
business
people
that
work
in
the
city
and
I'm
more
interested
in
people
that
work
in
the
city
than
people
that
just
happen
to
own
property
in
the
city
personally,
whether
they
own
a
business
or
they
work
for
a
business
that
is
doing
business
in
salt
lake
city.
To
me,
that's
a
more
important
voice
than
someone
that
just
happens
to
own
property
that
may
be
from
california
or
whatever
else
so,
and
I
imagine
those
people
wouldn't
apply
anyway.
D
But
I
to
me
it's
the
business
owner
slash
member
is
more.
That
voice
is
more
important
to
me
to
hear
than
just
the
property
owner.
Of
course,
owning
property
is
a
business.
So
how
do
you
draw
that
distinction?
I
don't
actually
know,
but
I
think
the
and
so
that's
my
two
cents
on
that
issue.
I
think
one
thing
that's
going
to
limit
us
is
just
how
many
people
apply,
because
we
may
not
get
that
many
applications
or
that
much
interest
to
begin
with.
D
So
to
that
point,
can
we
get
somebody
who's
been
through
this
before
10
years
ago?
To
just
give
it
a
sense
of
what
the
time
commitment
is
for
these
residents
we're
asking
to
apply
so
that
we
can
be
clear
with
them
about
what
to
expect
if
they
are
to
apply
for
this?
Does
anybody
have
that
background
or
experience.
N
G
And
I
think
we
also
did
spend
time
on
their
own.
You
know
looking
at
at
the
maps
and
reading
the
materials
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
they
all
came
prepared
to
some
extent
in
for
the
meeting.
So
I
would
think
a
couple
of
hours
of
two
or
three
hours
in
meetings
two
or
three
hours
for
each
meeting
for
prep
time
ben.
Do
you
think
that's
a
reasonable
guess.
A
K
A
I
want
to
stop
the
this
discussion
at
this
time,
we'll
go
on
with
kate,
but
they
realize
that
first,
we
have
to
get
the
applicants.
I
think
we've
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
selection
of
the
applicant,
but
right
now
we're
looking
at
the
eligibility
of
the
applicants
so
ben.
If
you
want
to
give
it
a
shot
on
what
you
think
our
applicant
process
is
going
to
look
like
go
ahead
and
state
what
you
think
you
what
you've
heard
so
far.
N
What
I
heard
is
removing
the
registered
voter
question
as
a
qualifying
criteria,
moving
that
into
the
basic
information
section,
and
we
can
also
add
the
question,
and
this
wouldn't
be
for
the
applicant.
It
would
be
verified
with
the
county
clerk
if
they're
an
active
voter.
That's
a
term
from
the
state
saying:
did
you
vote
in
the
last
election?
N
The
application
period
would
be
two
weeks
and
we
would
send
out
through
all
of
our
typical
communication
channels,
the
link
to
the
application
and
the
person
would
need
to
go
to
the
recorder's
office
to
show
their
id
and
submit
the
application
and
the
application
can
be
filled
out
online.
So
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
handwriting
legibility,.
A
So
I
I
threw
it
to
the
floor,
is
that
is
everybody
in
agreement
with
that
application
process
and
we'd
start
it
immediately
and
go
for
two.
G
O
Thank
you
very
much
council
chair,
and
this
has
been
a
great
discussion
I'll
I'll.
Take
it
a
step
back
on
why
we're
here
and
why
we're
only
talking
about
city,
council,
redistricting
and
not
the
school
district,
because
if
you
looked
at
the
memo
that
we
attached
that
we
updated
from
10
years
ago,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
information
about
the
school
district.
O
So
the
general
rule,
under
federal
law,
state
law
and
city
code
is
that
the
each
district
in
both
city
council
districts
and
the
school
district,
the
districts
for
the
school
district
must
be
in
substantially
equal
population.
And
that's
really
based
on
the
the
constitutional
provision
that
every
individual
must.
Their
vote
must
count,
and
so
redistricting
is,
is
a
way
of
ensuring
that
there's
not
discrimination
and
that
your
vote
counts
within
whatever
district
you
live
so
10
years
ago,
the
city
council
redistricted
both
the
city
council
districts
and
the
school
district
districts.
O
In
this
year's
process,
the
boundaries
of
the
salt
lake
city,
school
district
have
changed
just
a
little
bit
based
on
an
annexation
and
a
portion
of
salt
lake
city.
School
district
is
actually
in
mill.
Creek
utah
code
says
that
if
a
school
district
crosses
municipal
lines,
then
the
the
county
legislative
body
has
the
authority
to
do
the
redistricting
for
the
school
district.
O
Any
questions
on
that:
okay,
great
so
the
process
for
redistricting
the
existing
city
council
districts,
really,
the
the
the
main
principle
for
you
all
to
remember
is
that
under
utah
law,
federal
law
and
then
as
reflected
in
city
code,
each
district's
population,
not
voting
population,
but
population
must
be
substantially
similar.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
identical
in
amounts,
but
it
has
to
be
a
reasonable
deviation
from
each
other,
and
some
courts
have
said
you
know.
O
There
are
additional
principles
and
those
are
not
only
should
they
be
equal
substantially
equal
in
population,
but
they
also
should
be
contiguous,
so
no
little
peninsulas
or
weird
jagged
lines,
and
they
should
also
be
compact,
and
that's
that's
measured
on
actually
the
the
length
of
the
boundary
line.
If
you
measured
that,
so
it
shouldn't
be
a
really
long
and
narrow
district
that
should
be
sort
of
compact,
and
the
point
of
that
is
to
really
keep
communities
together
and
not
be
separating
and
dispersing
votes
in
awkward
ways.
O
O
O
But
if
you
happen
to
during
your
redistricting
have
your
place
of
residence
moved
into
a
different
district,
there
is
actually
case
law
and
and
principles
that
say
that
you
can,
as
a
sitting
council
member
remain
on
the
council,
even
though
your
district,
the
boundary
line,
will
have
changed
so
again.
Think
about
that
as
you're
thinking
about
these
boundaries
and
looking
at
maps
and
and
considering
the
recommendations
of
of
your
committee
and
of
your
fellow
council
members,
that's
my
general
overview
boyd.
D
Councilmember,
romano,
so
can
you
expand
on
that
sitting,
council
member
living
outside
of
their
district
issue,
because
the
legend
of
district
5
is
that
there's
a
little
bump
for
council
member
jill
love
and
was
that
just
because
they,
even
though
it
wasn't
legally
required,
they
wanted
to
allow
that
to
happen,
or
is
that
just
a
legend
and
not
true?
What's
the
what's
the
do
you
know
the
history,
I
don't
know
the
history
is
less
important,
but
what
does
the
law
actually
say
and-
and
why
might
we
want
to
do
that
anyway,.
O
I
don't
know
the
history
of
the
the
bump
for
previous
council
member
love
boyd,
I
don't
know
if
you
or
cindy
do
or
if
it's,
if
it's
even
you
know,
if
there's.
O
K
G
I
could
address
that
one
of
the
informal
guideposts
that
the
council
set
at
the
time
was
they
didn't,
want
to
have
anyone
outside
of
their
district,
and
so
there
had
been
a
pretty
significant
change
in
that
district,
but
they,
but
they
did
not
want
to
create
the
situation
where
someone
lived
outside
of
their
district.
So
so
they
just
made
that
policy
choice
that.
G
A
legal
vision
yeah
and
they
also
had
a
council
priority
of
trying
to
recognize
physical
boundaries,
so
to
speak.
Natural
physical
boundaries
like
if
there's
a
giant
gully
or
that
type
of
thing
that
was
that
was
viewed
by
a
community
as
a
natural
boundary
that
you
wouldn't
draw
a
map
that
would
go
and
scoop
over
one
street
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
gully.
G
Or
you
know
things
like
that,
where
it
was
you're
just
using
common
sense,
so
that
you're
not
not
creating
people
who
are
isolated
and
and
that
type
of
a
thing,
so
they
they
were
just
some
of
those
informal
guide
posts
and
I
think
ben.
I
don't
know
if
they're
in
your
report
this
week,
but
we
could
bring
those
back
to
you,
the
ones
that
were
used
the
last
two
times
you
may
or
may
not
want
to
use
them.
G
It's
it's
not
urgent
to
figure
it
out
now,
but
just
we
can
do
that
in
the
next
briefing.
N
I
don't
know
if
he
was
planning
to
touch
on,
I
think
all
seven
of
them,
I'm
happy
to
pull
those
out
and
email
them
to
the
council
as
well,
and
just
to
throw
this
out
in
addition
to
the
guiding
principles,
if
there
are
any
directions
that
you
would
like
to
provide
to
the
advisory
commission,
and
particularly
what
comes
to
mind
is
if
you
want
to
say,
give
us
a
maximum
of
say
three
maps
or
whatever
number
you're
comfortable
with,
and
if
you
would
like
the
advisory
commission
to
rank
or
score
them
based
on
those
guiding
principles
of
compactness.
N
You
know
contiguousness
other
factors,
so
they
could
tell
you
map
b,
scores
better
on
preserving
communities
of
interest,
but
it
may
be
less
compact
if
that's
direction.
You
want
to
provide
to
the
commission,
that's
helpful
for
staff
to
communicate
to
the
commission,
and
so
they
know
that
going
into
the
process.
G
So
our
main
goals
for
today
were
to
to
give
you
that
additional
overview
information
and
to
get
from
you
the
criteria
for
membership
and
the
reason
that
we're
not
asking
you
to
set
a
number
of
participants
is
you
thought?
Well
what
if
you
happen
to
have
like
seven
great
applicants,
one
from
each
district
plus
you
happen
to
have
two
people
who
have
a
great
deal
of
knowledge
about
data
and
mapping
and
community
involvement,
or
things
like
that.
G
So
we
thought
what
we
could
do
is
if
it
gets
up
to
like
14-
that's
probably
too
many
but
you've.
Given
us
some
feedback
today
about
attempting
to
include
younger
people
and
things
like
that,
so
we
can
do
that
and
then
the
decision
on
which
of
the
applicants
serve
on
the
commission
will
be.
Excuse
me
we'll
be
up
to
the
council,
so
we'll
be
back
to
you
with
with
that
information.
A
D
One
priority
that
we
haven't
talked
about
that
I
would
be
interested
in
at
least
signaling
to
the
applicants
as
important
is
that
when
there
is
a
kind
of
a
traditional
neighborhood
that
is
either
already
split
by
council
boundaries
or
is
in
a
location
where
it's
likely
that
they
would
be
considered
for
being
redistricted
to
a
different
boundary
like
they're
on
an
edge.
D
I
would
think
it'd
be
good
to
encourage
participation
from
that.
I'm
thinking
wasatch
hollow,
of
course,
but
also
central
ninth,
where
it
sort
of
sits
on
the
intersection
between
currently
split
between
four
and
five.
But
it's
also
close
to
two
and
those
are
the
three
districts
that
need
to
adjust
the
most
to
equalize
the
numbers
it
seems
like
that
may
be.
D
It
could
go
into
any
district.
I
could
imagine
just
based
on
where
it
is
geographically
and
the
fact
that
the
three
down
three
districts
that
are
closest
to
it
are
the
ones
that
need
to
change
the
most.
I
I
would
be
really
hopeful
that
someone
from
that
community
can
represent
that
community
because
it
just
seems
like
it's
going
to
be
obvious
mathematically
and
geographically
that
it's
going
to
be
in
the
crosshairs
of
potential
redistricting.
D
So
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that
other
than
to
just
say
that
that's
important
and
if
we
get
applicants
from
that
area,
use
that
as
a
consideration.
D
G
And
council
members
are
free
to
recommend
people
who
you
know
just
suggest
to
people
in
their
communities
to
that
they
apply
so
the
so
you
could
make
an
effort
council
member
to
to
mail
to
that
area
or
to
use
your
list
to
identify
people
who
live
in
that
area
and
reach
out
to
them,
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
the
district
redistricting
in
salt
lake
city
is
entirely
nonpartisan
and
has
never
ever
ever
been
political
in
any
way.
G
So
it's
a
it's
it's
not
a
competition
among
council
members
or
among
districts,
or
anything
like
that.
So
we
feel
fortunate
for
that
and
having
the
commission
helps
with
that.
But
there's
no!
You
don't
have
to
be.
You
know
particularly
strategic
about
looking
for
people
who
have
a
certain
view.
You
just
need
them
to
be
knowledgeable,
not
knowledgeable.
People
who
are
in
interested
in
helping
the
city.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
That
was
a
great
discussion.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
boyd.
Thank
you
ben.
As
always,
nice
work
appreciate
it
that
ends
that
discussion
and
our
next
item
is
tentative
break.
All
in
favor,
say:
aye
councilmember
fowler
is
in
agreement
with
the
break
okay,
so
we'll
report
back
here
at
4,
10.
A
And
we'll
I
think
we
got
a
quorum
here,
so
we're
good
to
go,
and
I
think
we
got
the
recorder
going
so
we'll
move
on
to
items
seven
and
eight
all
things
water
with
lower
briefer
I'll
also
before
I
turn
it
over
to
laura,
I'm
gonna
turn
over
to
sam,
and
we
also
have
rusty
vetter
on
the
line
somewhere
to
also
help
us
out
he's
a
senior
city
attorney.
P
Thanks,
mr
chair,
there
are
just
really
three
major
topics.
I
don't
know
what
order
director
briefer
and
team
plan
to
go
in,
but
there's
the
kind
of
the
historical
and
regional
water
policy
context
that
the
department
is
going
to
talk
with
you
all
about,
and
that
includes
issues
that
have
intersections
with
state
and
legislature
policy.
P
There's
the
watershed.
Just
the
overall
history
and
context
of
the
city's
watershed
where
the
water
supplies
for
the
water
service
area
come
from
and
then
finally,
there's
an
ordinance
proposal
in
front
of
you
all
the
council
being
briefed
in
conjunction
with
these
informational
items,
and
that
has
to
do
with
officially
designating
the
city's
water
service
area.
It's
congruent
with
the
water
service
area,
the
historical
water
service
area,
so
no
change
is
being
made.
P
Q
Q
Make
sure
we
have
all
the
experts
here,
we
need
to
to
kind
of
go
a
little
further
with
your
explanation,
sam.
Q
I
think,
because
we
just
came
out
or
are
still
coming
out
of
a
pretty
significant
drought
year,
and
there
are
some
there's
some
great
interest
in
great
salt
lake
and
a
lot
of
sort
of
policy
proposals
for
utah
lake
and
in
the
past,
we've
had
legislative
interest
in
our
watersheds
and
extraterritorial
jurisdiction
authority
and
we're
interested.
We
are
entering
the
2022
legislative
session
where
water
is
figuring
quite
prominently.
Q
Q
All
right,
so
if
we
could
just
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
throughout
this
presentation,
I've
kind
of
divided
this
up
into
first
talking
about
the
city's
water
resources
where
our
water
comes
from,
where
we
hold
direct
rights,
the
amount
of
planning
you
know
sort
of
the
legacy
of
these
resources.
We
are
beneficiaries
of
a
lot
of
planning
by
people
before
us
with
respect
to
our
water
supplies,
then
I'll
roll
into
our
watershed
and
the
upcoming
legislative
session
and
then
the
designated
water
service
area.
Q
This
cover
slide
for
the
water
resources.
Piece
features:
lake
blanche
in
big
cottonwood
canyon.
That's
one
of
our
protected
watersheds.
We
are
so
fortunate
to
have
such
a
beautiful
resource
that
we
cooperatively
manage
with
other
agencies
here
in
the
wasatch
mountains.
Q
And
this
is
this
is
another
way
to
look
at
where
our
water
comes
from
in
relation
to
where
we
are
situated,
and
this
map
actually
was
developed
as
part
of
our
climate
vulnerability,
where
we're
trying
to
look
at
the
vulnerability
of
different
watersheds
where
our
surface
water
sources
emanate.
So
on
the
left
side
of
the
map
towards
the
top,
you
can
see
great
salt
lake
and
then
towards
the
bottom
left.
You
can
see
utah
lake,
the
yellow
area
is
salt
lake
city
and
our
service
area,
which
includes
mill,
creek
holiday,
cottonwood
heights.
Q
Q
And
then,
if
you
look
further
east
to
the
right
of
the
map,
you
can
see
that,
through
our
participation
with
metropolitan
water
district,
we
also
capture
water
supplies
that
emanate
from
the
weber,
river
duchenne
and,
excuse
me,
sorry,
through
waters
and
the
provo
river
watershed
areas.
Q
If
you
lived
in
los
angeles,
this
map
would
look
a
little
different
where
your
water
supplies
would
be
coming
from.
You
know
100
miles
away
through
these
enormous
aqueducts,
but
we
are
extremely
fortunate
that
we
have
water
supplies
in
such
close
proximity
to
us
in
addition
to
having
water
supplies
where
we
have
pretty
good
control
of
because
of
our
water
right
ownership
and
again,
this
is
great
planning
from
people
way
before
us
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
planning
history
in
a
little
bit.
Q
So
also
when
we
start
talking
about
some
of
the
water
policy
issues,
I
think
it's
important
to
look
at
how
these
watersheds
sort
of
interact
with
great
salt
lake
and
utah
lake,
so
utah
lake
to
the
south
is,
is
the
upstream
portion
of
the
watershed
through
the
valley
and
then
the
the
mountain
watersheds
feed
into
the
this
basin,
and
then
it
all
ends
up
in
great
salt
lake.
So
one
other
thing,
that's
really
interesting
about
where
our
water
supplies
come
from
is
with
a
few
exceptions.
Q
So
the
first
version
of
water,
by
by
the
pioneers
entered
into
the
valley,
was
in
july
1847,
that
was
city
creek
by
1860.
All
of
the
mountain
streams
were
appropriated
for
agriculture.
Q
In
addition
to
this
direct
stream
flow
from
the
wasatch,
then
in
the
1930s
and
1940s,
a
lot
of
the
major
water
storage
projects
were
built
per
the
1929
planning
effort
and
then
in
the
1950s
was
when
the
city
built
its
first
water
treatment
facilities.
Q
That
was
that
long-range
plan
proposed
and
then
the
development
that
followed
that
met
much
of
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
today,
both
in
the
city
and
regionally,
so
it
just
shows
sort
of
the
the
scope
and
scale
of
water
supply
planning.
We
plan
for
generations
ahead.
Q
I
think
also
it's
important
to
note
that
in
the
1950s,
when
the
water
treatment
plants
were
constructed,
that
was
the
result
of
typhoid
outbreaks
in
the
valley
and
one
of
the
things
that
occurred
was
at
the
time
we
were
required
through
interstate
commerce
requirements
to
provide
for
clean,
clean
water,
and
so
there
was
a
significant
link
between
water
quality
and
the
availability
of
water
and
sort
of
interstate
commerce
coming
through
salt
lake
city
at
the
time.
Q
So
anyway,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
this
history
just
shows
that
the
central
wasatch
mountain
water
resources
were
really
the
foundation
and
they
are
still
the
foundation
of
our
water
supply.
Today,
by
the
way,
the
photo
here
was
of
mormon
pioneers
coming
off
of
big
mountain
in
july
of
1847.
Q
So
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
and
expand
a
little
bit
about
these
exchange
contracts
that
the
city
has
so
in
the
mid-1800s
when
our
city
population
was
growing
and
and
actually
kind
of
saw
like
county
population
was
growing
and
needed
more
reliable
resources.
Q
A
lot
of
work
was
done
to
find
out,
find
the
best
way
to
get
water
resources
to
residents
and
and
the
population
the
areas
that
were
becoming
more
heavily
populated
and
a
lot
of
things
were
tried.
So
you
know
people
looked
at
the
jordan
river
as
a
potential
source,
but
one
of
the
problems
was
the
development
was
happening
uphill
from
the
jordan
river,
and
at
that
time
you
know
you
couldn't
just
pump
water
up
to
those
areas
from
the
jordan
river.
Q
Q
Q
The
map
that
I'm
showing
on
this
screen
is
actually
from
a
1902
federal
investigation
report,
where
the
federal
government
was
very
interested
in
how
water
was
being
managed
in
utah,
and
they
did
a
great
big
report
on
it.
It's
quite
fascinating,
but
they
they
painstakingly
mapped
out
all
of
the
water
systems
within
the
state
and
and
within
this
part
of
the
within
the
jordan
jordan.
River
basin
you
can
see
to
the
top
of
the
map
is
where
salt
lake
city
was
at
the
time
it
had
since
grown
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
map.
Q
You
can
see
just
the
the
northern
end
of
utah
lake
and
then
you
can
see
great
salt
lake
on
the
the
upper
left
corner.
Q
Q
Q
This
is
a
state-led
process
in
which
water
rights
are
adjudicated
in
court
and
we've
been
part
of
this
process.
But
basically
it's
it's.
The
state
adjudicating
all
the
rights
in
this
basin,
and
and
really
it
encompasses
just
about
all
of
salt
lake
city's
rights
and
so
rusty
has
been
working
alongside
us
to
file
water
user
claims
for
all
of
our
water
rights,
as
we
go
through,
like
the
adjudication
divides
the
watershed
into
these
little
regions,
and
so
we've
got
different
regions
that
are
being
adjudic
different
phases
of
adjudication
over
time.
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
I
like
this,
I
like
this
photo.
Oh,
could
you
go
back
please?
Thank
you
yeah.
I
like
this
photo
showing
salt
lakes
downtown
salt
lake
city
with
the
wasatch
mountains
in
the
back,
because
by
just
looking
at
this
picture,
you
could
see
why
this
city
in
an
arid
region
of
the
country
is
able
to
thrive.
Q
Q
A
lot
of
major
u.s
cities
that
might
seem
distant
from
forest
forested
lands
actually
rely
on
water
from
national
forest
system
lands.
These
include
los
angeles,
portland,
denver
and
atlanta,
and
they
all
receive
a
very
significant
part
of
their
water.
So
so
the
national
forest
actually
is
a
huge
partner
with
municipalities
in
the
provision
of
drinking
water.
Q
So
when
we
talk
about
salt
lake
city's
protected
watersheds,
we're
we're
talking
about
our
watersheds
that
are
protected
via
city
ordinance,
alongside
some
policies
that
the
national
forest
service
has
in
their
national
forest
plan,
as
well
as
health
department,
ordinances
and
right
now,
those
protected
watersheds
are
city,
creek,
canyon,
carly's,
canyon,
big
cottonwood,
canyon
and
little
cottonwood
canyon
on
the
right,
I'm
showing
the
photo
of
another
one
of
our
watershed.
Canyons.
Q
Q
So
some
watershed
persp
statistics,
so
the
the
map
here
on
the
left-
I
don't
know
if
you
can
make
this
out
really
well,
but
you
can
see
a
yellow
outline
along
these
counting
areas
to
the
north
is
city,
creek,
canyon
and
then
to
the
south.
This
little
cottonwood
canyon,
and
then
you
can
see
salt
lake
city
on
the
left
side
of
the
map
that
yellow
outlined
area
is
the
area
where
we
have
regulatory
jurisdiction
and
it's
decided
due
to
where
our
treatment
plans
are
so
where
the
intake
is
for
the
water.
Q
So
that's
about
190
square
miles,
an
area.
The
elevations
of
our
watershed
vary
from
between
5
000
to
11
000
feet
above
mean
sea
level,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
earlier.
The
proximity
of
our
watersheds
to
where
the
point
of
use
for
the
water
is
quite
close,
takes
less
than
24
hours
for
a
drop
of
water
to
get
to
a
tap
in
salt
lake
city
from
our
watersheds.
Q
Q
There
are
multiple
government
jurisdictions
involved
in
managing
these
watersheds,
and
so
my
department
takes
part
in
a
lot
of
collaborative
work,
and
these
include
the
national
forest,
also
salt
lake
county,
both
their
planning
and
zoning
divisions,
as
well
as
the
salt
lake
county
health
department,
as
well
as
their
flood
control
and
watershed
divisions.
Q
Q
So
there
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
agencies,
a
lot
of
people
with
intense
interests
in
this
area
that
work
collaboratively
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Q
One
of
the
things
we
work
collaboratively
on
is
managing
recreation.
The
visitation
to
these
watersheds
is
greater
than
yellowstone
national
park,
more
than
5
million
people
a
year.
That's
that's
a
lot
to
manage.
We've
got
four
ski
resorts
in
the
area,
so
we've
got
commercial
recreation
and
a
lot
of
dispersed
recreation
throughout
the
area.
Q
Q
Next
slide,
please
so
sort
of
some
historical
context
here,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
history.
If
you,
if
you
look
for
it
and
the
photo
to
the
right
or
to
the
left
here,
that's
gifford
pinchot.
He
was
the
first
forest
chief
forester
for
the
national
forest.
Q
The
third
photo
from
left
is
at
the
mouth
of
city
creek,
and
actually
that's
that's
through
memory.
Grove
really
close
to
where
our
fourth
avenue
well
currently
sits,
and
then
the
next
article
was
a
1909
article
in
a
salt
lake
herald
that
talked
about
how
the
federal
government
was
coming
to
salt
lake
lake
city
to
help
us
improve
our
water
supply
by
planting
trees
in
big
cottonwood
canyon,.
Q
Excuse
me:
runoff
flu
was
something
that
was
talked
about
in
the
salt
lake
valley,
that
first
flush
of
runoff
often
caused
people
to
get
sick
and,
in
part,
because
of
a
lot
of
the
mining
and
deforestation
that
had
occurred.
So
a
lot
of
work
has
been
invested
into
these
canyons
over
the
last
century.
Q
Excuse
me,
in
order
to
make
it
so
that
we
have
a
reliable
source
of
drinking
water
so
that
our
water
quality
is
good
and
I'll.
Just
say
that
that
work
has
paid
off.
I
mean
since
the
city
creek
incident
and
after
our
treatment
plants
were
built
as
well,
but
we've
had
very
good
water
quality
for
the
last
century
and
and
continues
to
be
good,
and
we
work
really
hard
to
maintain,
maintain
that
and
to
closely
monitor
developments
that
occur
that
occur
in
the
watersheds
and
and
other
risks.
Q
Q
So
we
as
a
public
water
supplier,
are
required
to
meet
safe
drinking
water
act,
require
regulations,
and
that
includes
regulating
for
over
90
contaminants
in
a
water
system.
Q
The
state,
the
safe
drinking
water
act
specifies
four
different
ways
in
which
we
mitigate
pollution
and
protect
public
health
and
the
first
and
most
important
one
is
to
protect
water
at
its
source
and
so
source.
Water
protection
is
part
of
what
that
watershed
jurisdiction
is
that
the
city
currently
has
and
and
has
been
doing
for
quite
some
time:
salt
lake
city,
ordinance,
1704
and
1708.
Q
Q
Q
That
is
the
law
that
gives
municipalities
the
authority
to
regulate
for
water
quality
purposes
in
areas
that
are
outside
of
their
city
boundaries.
So
that's
the
that
is
the
state
law
that
gives
us
the
authority
to
enact
our
watershed
ordinance
in
areas
like
big
cottonwood,
canyon
and
little
cottonwood,
canyon,
parley's,
canyon,
that
are
outside
of
our
city,
boundaries.
Q
With
the
management
of
our
watersheds,
we
take
that
really
seriously
and
we
have
a
watershed
management
plan
that
has
key
strategies
that
we
implement
every
year,
and
you
see
this
in
our
budget
every
year
as
well,
that
watershed
management
plan
is
currently
being
updated
and
we'll
be
doing
a
lot
of
public
engagement
starting
in
the
spring
and
summer,
but
these
key
strategies
have
to
do
with
land
conservation
and
stewardship.
Q
Q
Also,
our
plan
prioritizes
the
purchase
of
irrigation
shares
of
those
exchange
agreement
contracts
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
so
that
we
can
reduce
the
obligation
of
providing
water
through
those
exchange
contracts
and
then,
of
course,
monitoring
is
an
important
component
of
managing
our
watersheds
monitoring
the
water
at
the
source
and
managing
or
monitoring
the
water.
As
it
comes
into
our
distribution
system,
we
prepare
a
water
quality
report,
that's
something
that's
required
under
federal
and
state
law
as
well.
Q
Q
Excuse
me
next
slide,
please,
and
then
none
of
our
plans
and
studies
really
stand
alone,
they're,
all
interrelated,
and
so
the
watershed
management
plan
that
I
talked
about
links
to
our
water
supply
and
demand
plan,
as
well
as
our
water
conservation
plan.
Q
We
are
in
year
five
of
a
five-year
climate,
vulnerability
assessment
with
the
university
of
utah,
and
then
we've
got
a
lot
of
other
kind
of
related
studies
and
plans
in
place
that
we
update
every
few
years,
including
our
water
rate,
studies
which
we're
proposing
in
fiscal
year
23,
so
that
we
can
capture
sort
of
the
cost
of
service
and
look
at
the
priorities
that
the
community
has
in
terms
of
how
we
pay
for
water
next
slide.
Please.
Q
I
prepared
this
slide
over
the
weekend
and
there
are
already
about
four
or
five
more
bills
to
add
today,
but
we
do
expect
to
see
quite
a
few
water
related
bills
on
water
conservation,
maintaining
flows
to
great
salt
lake
regulatory
needs
like
the
upcoming
federal
lead
and
copper
rule.
That's
part
of
the
same
drinking
water
act
as
well
as
some
regulatory
needs
that
the
state
engineer
has
on
managing
water
rights.
Q
Q
I
didn't
put
this
on
the
side
I
forgot,
but
we
also
are
going
to
see
likely
legislation
related
to
utah
lake
and
we've
been
working
a
lot
on
that
during
the
interim
over
the
last
year
with
state
representatives,
but
the
concern
with
the
utah
lake
legislation,
which
was
also
proposed
last
legislative
session.
The
utah
lake
authority
is
again
salt.
Lake
city
has
direct
water
rights
in
utah
lake
that
we
rely
upon
to
meet
our
exchange
contract
agreements,
and
the
legislation
last
year
gave
us
a
lot
of
concern
with
respect
to
interference
with
those
water
rights.
Q
Okay,
so
the
next
part
of
this
presentation
is
on
the
designated
water
service
area,
but
I'm
wondering
if
chair
dugan,
if
we
want
to
entertain
any
questions
or
comments
before
we
launch
into
that
piece.
C
Thanks
hi,
director
briefer,
I
had
a
quick
question
about
the
area
above
sort
of
over
in
the
foothills
where
there
has
been
talk
of
potential
mine
or
something
up
there.
I
know
at
one
point
it
had
kind
of
been
brought
up.
It
was
a
couple
of
years
ago
about
us
potentially
buying
that
area
to
make
sure
that
there
was
some
conservation
of
our
watersheds
in
that
area.
Q
So
yeah
the
proposed
there
are
two
mine
proposals:
there
one
is
a
small
mine
and
then
a
much
larger
mine
on
about
600
acres
of
land
and
the
the
area
the
land
that
is
proposed
for
the
mine
is
actually
outside
of
our
protected
watershed
and
downstream
from
the
parley's
water
treatment
plant.
Q
However,
we
have
a
lot
of
concern
with
respect
to
water
quality,
because
even
though
it's
not
part
of
the
drinking
water
system,
parley's
creek
comes
into
the
city
and
the
city
actually
has
some
responsibility
for
water
quality
on
our
urban
stream
systems
through
our
stormwater
permit.
Q
So
my
our
stormwater
utility-
that's
part
of
public
utilities
department,
I'm
also
I've
read
through
the
proposals
and
there
are
air
potential
air
quality
impacts,
and
I
mentioned
the
water
quality
impacts
and
the
proposal
says
that
they
will
mitigate
those
impacts
by
using
water
to
either
settle
pollutants
out
or
to
do
dust
control
and
I've
looked
at
what
water
is
available
there
and
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
there's
not
a
water
resource
available
there,
except
for
the
city's
own
water
rights,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
have
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
state
division
of
oil,
gas
and
mining.
Q
There's
supposed
to
be
a
public
hearing
on
the
25th
of
this
month
that
we
intend
to
provide
some
comments
for
as
well
so
yeah.
There
are
a
lot
of
reasons
to
be
concerned
about
that
proposal,
and
I
know
that
there
are
other
communities
such
as
mill,
creek
city
and
particularly
their
residence
in
the
olympus
cove
or
the
yeah.
The
area
that's
close
to
the
mouth
of
the
canyon
that
already
gets
impacted
by
dust
from
the
other
mine.
That's
up
there.
C
I
would
assume
that
if
the
proposal
includes
using
some
using
water
as
mitigation
for
air
quality
issues,
that
that
would
have
an
impact
on
street
on
the
flow
of
streams
to
the
great
salt
lake
as
well,
was
that
right.
Q
I
think
I
think
it
would
divert
water
from
the
system.
That's
not
already
diverted
for
a
use.
The
city
doesn't
provide
water
through
our
distribution
system
to
that
area.
There
are.
We
do
have
water
supply
contracts
with
like
residents,
for
instance
in
the
manic
mount
air
community,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there
is
an
assumption
about
whether
the
city
would
enter
into
a
water
supply
contract
with
the
owners
of
the
mine,
but
I
don't
think
that
would
fall
within
how
we've
normally
looked
at
providing
water
outside
of
our
jurisdiction.
C
And
then-
and
one
other
question,
if
I
may,
mr
chair,
do
we
have
an
update
on
when
the
aqueduct
is
under
the
pipe
the
line,
the
water
line
you
I'm
pointing
to
my
street
up?
So
you
know
it's
coming
out
out
west
of
northwest
is:
where
is
that
in
the
process.
Q
Yes,
I
think
you're
talking
about
the
east
west
conveyance,
that's
it
I'm
gonna,
see
if
jesse
knows
the
specifics.
If
not,
I
can
give
you
an
update
on
the
completion
date
for
that.
P
A
Q
Okay-
and
so
this
is
the
next
agenda
item-
is
our
salt
lake
city,
designated
service,
water,
service
area,
ordinance
and
I'll
just
say:
that's
a
picture
of
our
big
cottonwood
water
treatment
plant
and
the
100
year
old
weather
station.
That
has
been
there
for
a
long
time.
We
just
received
an
award
for
from
the
weather
service
for
that
the
continuous
readings
on
that
weather
station
next
slide.
Please.
Q
So
this
isn't
first,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
water
service
area
and
how
it
came
to
be
outside
of
our
city
boundaries,
so
the
map
on
the
right
shows
in
in
red
salt
lake
city's
corporate
boundary
and
then
in
blue
the
area
where
we
serve
water
outside
of
our
service
area,
so
that
service
area
really
developed
over
the
last
century
and
a
lot
of
that
blue
area
actually
was
unincorporated
salt
lake
county
at
the
time
of
development
over
time.
Q
Well,
actually
I'll
back
up.
But
I
I
have
read
some
historical
accounts
where,
when
the
city
was
asked
to
extend
its
water
system
outside
of
whatever
the
boundaries
were
at
the
time
that
we
would
be
annexing
those
areas
into
the
city.
Q
But
you
know,
of
course,
that
existing
blue
area
that
never
happened
and
then
over
time,
cities
incorporated
on
top
of
the
water
system
like
mill,
creek
and
holiday
and
cottonwood
heights
and
those
cities,
you
know
really
benefit
from
having
that
system
there.
They
don't
have
their
own
water
system
or
their
own
water
rights.
Q
So
the
reason
why
we
are
creating
a
designated
water
service
area
is,
as
sam
mentioned,
the
passage
of
constitutional
amendment
d
and
then
some
companion,
legislation
from
2019
house
bill,
31
and
really
this
is
to
provide
clarity,
that
municipalities
have
authority
to
provide
water
outside
of
their
city
boundaries.
Q
Do
this
and
the
cons
that
that
part
of
the
constant
state
constitution
was
a
little
ambiguous
about
whether
or
not
that
was
allowed
under
the
constitution,
so
that
this
just
clarifies
that
and
then
hb
31
not
only
wanted
us
wanted
a
map
created
showing
a
designated
water
service
area,
but
also
had
some
other
requirements
like
an
advisory
committee,
some
really
modeled
after
our
advisory
committee
as
well
as
some
other
things
related
to
rate
setting
all
of
those
things
we
already
do,
but
we
didn't
have
an
ordinance
that
designated
a
water
service
area.
Q
So
so
that's
what
that
ordinance
is
complying
with,
and
I
know
I've
rusty
here
as
well
so
rusty.
If
there's
anything,
you
wanted
to
add
about
that
ordinance,
please
feel
free.
D
No,
I
you
gave
a
great
summary,
it's
really
quite
simple
and,
as
laura
said,
we're
we're
following
the
the
new
requirement
of
the
law
that
we
established
this
map
and
then
it's
sent
on
to
the
office
of
the
state
engineer.
So
if
somebody
has
any
questions.
Q
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
genesis
of
this
constitutional
amendment
came
out
of
thousands
of
hours
of
work
after
the
2018
legislative
session,
where
we
had
a
trifecta
of
proposed
legislation
that
included
the
restrictions
on
extra-territorial
jurisdiction.
Q
And
so
this
constitutional
amendment
and
hb
31
really
came
out
of
some
intense
negotiation
over
that
the
interim
periods
after
2018-
and
I
I
know
rusty,
spent
a
lot
of
time,
as
did
a
number
of
other
folks.
I
think
sam
was
at
a
lot
of
those
meetings
as
well
to
try
to
wrap
our
arms
around
a
lot
of
the
issues,
because
this
didn't
just
affect
salt
lake
city.
It
had
a
statewide
impact
on
municipalities
throughout
the
state.
Q
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
laura,
but
quick
question
on
plans
for
the
old
shooting
range.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
Q
Well,
that
property
is
part
of
our
watershed
portfolio
and
we
have
entered
into
a
voluntary
cleanup
program
agreement
with
deq
to
remediate
the
lead
contamination
that
exists
from
50
years
of
shooting
activities.
Q
And
I
you
know
I
do
get
a
lot
of
a
fair
amount
of
inquiry
about
future
uses,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
remediation
of
that
site
is
going
to
depend
on
future
uses.
So
if,
if
there's
other
activity
that's
proposed
on
the
site,
it
it
would
change
potentially
change
or
make
the
remediation
more
stringent.
Q
C
Thank
you
and
thanks
for
all
of
your
hard
work
on
all
of
this
and
what
I
know
will
be
continued
hard
work
as
we
approach
the
legislative
session.
C
So
please
let
us
know
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
especially,
I
mean
all
of
us,
but
with
the
legislative
subcommittee
and
things
I
feel
like
water's,
going
to
be
it's
on
that
uptick
again
of
being
in
everybody's
mind,
so,
which.
D
Yeah,
I
didn't
actually
have
a
specific
question.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
Water
policy
is
so
incredibly
complex,
but
also
critical
to
our
city
and
our
residents.
So
thank
you
for
this
update.
I'm
sure
that
there's
a
like
we
could
talk
for
days
and
days
and
days
about
water.
So
I'm
glad
we
have
this
kind
of
broad
overview.
I'm
sure
there
will
be
more
things,
and-
and
thank
you
also
for
your
willingness
all
the
time-
to
respond
to
somewhat
ridiculous
questions
from
me.
D
I'm
sure
other
council
members
that
don't
know
enough
about
water
policy
but
need
to
so
thank
you
for
everything
you're
doing
for
the
city.
I
just
wanted
to
convey
that.
A
Well,
thank
you
laura.
You
are
a
great
tutor
for
us
and
thank
you
for
all
your
your
briefing
and
your
support
up
at
the
davis
center
on
the
great
salt
lake
water
summit.
A
I
look
forward
to
more
discussions
on
water
conservation
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
the
health
of
the
city
and
the
and
the
and
great
salt
lake
continue
and
we
don't
spend
a
lot
of
money,
but
we
can
save
water.
So
if
there's
no
other
further
questions,
thanks
for
the
briefing
and
I
look
forward
to
more.
A
K
A
I
left
the
meeting
for
the
break
and
I
didn't
mute,
but
I
just
talked
to
the
whole
time
uni.
So
we
have
the
utah
inland
port
authority
board
appointment
and
that's
a
requirement
for
us
to
appoint
someone
from
the
council
to
the
board
and
it's
replacing
council
member
ferris
who
replaced
councilmember
rogers
at
this
position.
A
C
I
would
like
to
nominate
councilmember
peter
eschler
for
this
position.
C
A
H
Thank
you,
councilmember
fowler,
for
the
nomination.
I
am
very
interested
in
this
seat.
I
have
been
preparing
for
it
since
before
I
declared
my
candidacy
through
citizen
participation
in
a
lot
of
things
surrounding
it.
This
is
one
of
the
top
three
issues
for
constituents
as
I
walked
around
and
spoke
to
them
and
knocked
on
doors,
and
I
would
really
appreciate
the
chance
to
advocate,
for
particularly
the
west
side,
but
generally
the
entire
city
and
and
grow
in
roads,
where
I
can
to
make
sure
that
our
voice
is
elevated
and
heard.
A
So
I,
since
we're
online
this
time,
the
last
time
we
were
in
person
and
we
actually
filled
out
a
form,
a
paper
form.
I
think
we
can
go
to
the
chat
function
and
and
individually
go
send
it
to
jennifer.
I.
C
K
A
A
G
Hello,
two
quick
things:
one
is
that
the
association
of
municipal
councils,
it's
affiliated
with
the
council
of
governments
and
they
have
a
subgroup
that
is
council
members
who
meet
monthly
right.
Now,
it's
a
remote
meeting
and
has
been
for
quite
a
while
now
but
councilman
romano
has
been
the
salt
lake
city
representative
there
and
now,
as
he's
vice
chair,
he
can
no
longer
continue
because
it's
at
the
same
time
as
the
chair
vice
chair
meeting.
I
believe
it's
on
the
sec.
I
don't
know
it's
on
a
tuesday.
G
Thank
you.
I
was
guessing
yes,
second
tuesday,
at
from
12
to
1..
So
it's
it
to
me
is
a
significant
networking
opportunity
and
getting
to
know
the
other
council
members
in
the
county.
G
We
do
rely
on
the
other
councils
in
the
county
when
there's
an
a
legislative
issue
that
affects
salt
lake
city
or
when,
when
there's
opportunity,
to
share
information
on
on
similar
issues.
So
if
is
there
anyone
who's
interested?
C
A
G
Okay,
the
next
thing
is
the
public
utilities
mailings
and
it's
it's
a
great
thing,
because
council
members
get
to
put
one
newsletter
per
year
in
with
the
utility
bill.
The
utility
bill
doesn't
go
to
every
residence
or
property
owner,
but
it
goes
to
a
lot.
So
it
saves
a
lot
of
mailing
money,
there's
a
a
a
limitation,
a
physical
limitation,
because
we
can
only
put
three
three
different
districts
into
one
mailing
and
we
they
only
have
two
months
a
year
for
us,
because
the
other
months
are
dedicated
to
other
things.
G
So
we've
tried
different
ways
to
offer
to
pay
the
incremental
cost
of
having
more
opportunity
and
things
like
that,
but
we
haven't
struck
on
anything.
Yet
that
would
work
so
for
right.
Now
we
have
an
opportunity
one
opportunity
per
year
for
each
council
member
and
the
months
that
we
have
available
made
available
to
us
are
april
august
and
december,
and
we
don't
have
any
tricky
restrictions
this
year,
because
we
don't
have
anyone
up
for
election.
G
K
I
console
member
chair,
I
I
have
been
looking
into
this
and
you
know
I
don't
necessarily
have
you
know
an
issue
in
any
of
those
months.
I
would
love
to
to
be
included
on
those,
but
I
think
if
I
had
to
choose,
I
would
choose
the
december
one.
Okay,.
G
Okay,
so
we
have
two
people
in
the
december
slot.
Anyone
else
know
already
what
they
would
like
to
do.
G
All
right,
flexible,
thank
you
did
you
say
april,
was
available.
Cindy
april
is
available
april
august
and
december
april,
okay
april.
G
All
right,
so
we
staff
will
work
with
you
on
selecting
topics
and,
and
that
type
of
thing
and
we'll
continue
to
engage
with
public
utilities.
Perhaps
as
technology
changes,
there
might
be
ways
to
get
around
those
physical
limitations
that
that
exist,
but
for
now
my
understanding
is
that's
the
best
we
can
do.
A
Thank
you
very
much
cindy.
I
appreciate
that
very
much.
Next
time
is
attending
the
closed
session.
We
don't
have
a
tenant
closed
session.
So
that
concludes
our
work
session
for
this
january.
11Th
2022
meeting
is
adjourned.
Unless
there's
any
other
comments,
this
might
be
a
record
we
can
last
longer
if
you
want
to,
but
I
think
we're
gonna.