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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 09/06/2022
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A
A
The
sixth
september
2022
salt
lake
city
council,
meeting
work
session.
Hybrid
council
meetings
allow
people
to
take
part
in
meetings
online
through
webex
or
in
person
in
the
city
county
building.
We
are
continuing
to
watch
covered
rates
to
make
the
safest
choice
for
everyone.
The
masks
are
no
longer
required
in
meetings.
We
encourage
people
to
wear
masks
to
stay
safe
during
the
spike
of
covet
cases.
There
are
some
of
the
hallways
if
anyone
wants
one.
This
is
a
work
session
meeting
during
which
there's
no
public
comments.
A
A
We'll
now
begin
our
work
session
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is,
as
we
usually
start,
the
meeting
with
the
informational
update
from
the
administration.
We
have
the
mayor
here
rachel,
I
think,
weston
andrew
johnson.
I
saw
him
earlier.
B
Nice
to
see
you
all
thanks
for
always
giving
us
this
opportunity,
we
have
a
special
guest
presenting
today
the
person
who's
been
coordinating
my
calendar
and
so
much
of
what
we
end
up
presenting
to
you
every
week,
and
this
is
gabby's
final
performance
on
behalf
of
the
administration,
and
it
was
a
city
bucket
list
desire
to
present
some
of
the
admin
updates.
So
I'm
going
to
not
delay
any
longer.
Thank
gabby
for
her
service
to
salt
lake
city
over
the
last
nearly
three
years,
and
let
you
take
over
the
admin
updates
for
today.
Gab.
C
Thanks
mayor
and
thanks
to
rachel
for
letting
me
steal
the
show,
today's
chair
and
council
members
all
right,
administrative
updates.
Can
I
get
next
slide,
please
so
for
kovid.
Our
cases
throughout
the
us
are
down
13
in
the
last
two
weeks
and
in
utah
down
17
percent
in
the
last
two
weeks
and
to
help
contain
a
path.
C
Oh,
if
we
could
go
next
slide
please
and
to
help
contain
the
possible
fall
and
winter
surge
of
covid,
the
cdc
and
fda
have
granted
authorization
for
updated,
coveted
boosters,
targeting
the
newest
omicron
strain,
and
so
now
people,
18
and
older
are
eligible
for
a
single
dose
of
the
updated
moderna
booster.
As
long
as
it's
been
at
least
two
months
since
they
completed
their
primary
vaccination
series,
and
then
people,
12
and
older
are
eligible
for
the
single
dose
of
the
updated
pfizer
booster.
C
C
Again,
trends
are
looking
fairly
positive.
We
are
down
in
hospitalizations
and
people
seeking
emergency
care
in
relation
to
kovid,
seeing
pretty
across
the
board
of
eligible
people
who
are
up
to
date
on
their
covid
vaccines.
C
C
D
All
right,
thanks,
council,
a
very
quick
update
for
the
engagement
this
week.
Of
course,
the
website
slc.gov
feedback
for
regularly
updated
highlights
for
city
engagement
next
slide,
quick
transportation
update
the
transportation
team
is
in
the
very
early
stages
of
engagement
for
three
neighborhood
byways
sugarhouse
to
the.
U
kensington
and
west
point
neighborhood
byways
create
pleasant
and
convenient
routes
for
people
using
active
modes
of
transportation
by
encouraging
safe
travel,
speeds,
discouraging
cut
through
vehicle
traffic
and
providing
safe
crossings
of
busy
streets
and
connecting
people
to
destinations.
D
D
Next
slide,
we
are
have
a
very
full
month
of
engagement
or
of
of
events.
During
the
month
of
september,
you
can
see
all
of
them
very
small
up
there
to
try
to
get
all
of
september
in
there
just
highlighting
a
few.
We
have
a
bunch
of
our
beloved
community
events
like
the
avenue
street
fair
on
the
10th.
D
The
ballpark
ballpark
is
hosting
a
classic
car
show
on
the
16th,
ninth
and
ninth
street
fair
on
the
17th
grove
and
poplar
grove
is
on
the
24th
and
marmalade
jam.
Fest
is
also
on
the
24th
and
there's
a
variety
of
cultural
events
as
well.
The
hispanic
heritage
parade
and
street
festival
on
the
10th
sugar
house
october,
oktoberfest
on
the
11th
festa
italiana
at
the
gateway
on
the
17th,
the
utah
lgbtq
plus
economic
summit
on
the
22nd
and
afro-utah
festival
on
the
24th,
just
to
name
a
few
exciting
events
this
month.
E
Maybe
not
the
you
see
the
numbers
this
week,
97
capacity
at
the
resource,
centers
high
demand,
obviously
for
all
three
of
them
next
slide.
Please.
E
A
big
issue
right
now,
obviously,
is
the
temperature
during
the
daytime,
and
even
at
night,
quite
a
bit
so
cooling
centers
we've
had
this
during
the
summer
time,
with
city
and
county
facilities
being
open
during
the
daytime,
particularly
in
the
later
afternoon,
hottest
part
of
the
day
for
folks
to
go
into.
You
can
see
a
list
of
those
up
there,
as
well
as
wigan
center
and
valley
behavioral
health.
E
E
E
F
Andrew
I
realize
I
in
my
brain.
I
think
I
was
thinking
of
rapid
intervention,
the
model
as
more
like
a
chat.
Can
you
please
clarify
for
me
the
rapid
intervention?
Is
I
see
that
they're
scheduled
every
day
in
different
places?
I
was
thinking
they
respond.
When
calls
happen.
Can
you
just
describe
the
service
to
me
a
little
bit
because
I'm
not
sure.
E
F
E
The
rapid
intervention
team,
the
rapid
sort
of
relates
to
for
quite
a
while
now
we've
relied
on
the
salt
lake
county
for
doing
interventions
on
camping
across
the
city.
It's
based
on
their
bandwidth
in
the
resources
which
was
equates
to
about
one
to
two
days
a
week
maximum,
and
so
the
rapidity
piece
was
the
city,
investing
funds
and
staff
to
make
sure
every
day,
weekdays
monday
through
friday
folks
could
go
out
and
address
ongoing
cleaning
issues
in
certain
areas.
E
I
think
eighth,
west
and
north
temple
is
a
good
example
of
that,
where
on
a
regular
schedule,
there's
going
down
there
because
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
congregating
they'll
also
handle
camp
camps
that
are
smaller
in
size
anywhere
in
the
city
that
are
reported,
but
before
all
that
there's
a
lot
of
voa
outreach.
That's
a
part
of
this.
So
on
a
weekly
basis,
the
heart
team
and
the
the
non-profit
providers
and
the
county
police
department,
everybody
else
who's
involved
in
these
situations
get
together
and
they
talk
through
all
the
camps.
E
They've
seen
and
people
are
seeing,
the
voa
outreach
team
will
go
out
and
proactively
build
report.
Relationships
figure
out.
Individual
circumstances
and
try
and
get
them
into
services
and
then
they'll
report
back
at
certain
times
when
an
individual
or
individuals
are
saying
a
waiting
list
for
housing
within
a
few
days
of
housing
or
a
week,
they
may
not
go
in
and
clean
up
or
abate
and
talk
to
the
county
say.
Can
we
hold
off
here
because
these
folks
need
to
be
stable
to
get
in
so
that's
happening
beforehand?
E
The
list
you'll
see
a
lot
of
is
that
regular
schedule
and
then
additional
places
that
have
been
reported
that
are
added
to
that
schedule.
So
you'll
see
some
places
repeat
every
week
and
then
you'll
also
see
some
new
ones
come
in
based
on
neighborhood
reports,
citizens
government
entities,
whoever
else
reporting
those.
So
it's
kind
of
a
mixture
every
week
sure.
E
E
A
G
H
I'm
wondering
if,
while
we're
waiting
for
them
to
come,
we
could
go
to
some
legislative
intents
or
our
staff
members
here
to
go
through
that.
We
don't
have
the
administrative
staff
person
here
to
do
that,
but
we
could
go
through
at
least
one
or
two
and
then
pause
when
they
get
here
for
the
equity
update,
yeah.
A
J
All
right
good
afternoon,
council,
chair
and
city
council,
thank
you
for
this
time
to
provide
updates
on
behalf
of
the
salt
lake
city,
mayor's
office,
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
Team
first
we'd
like
to
invite
all
those
who
are
watching
if
you
won't
be
attending
the
city
council
meeting
tonight,
just
a
plug
for
our
meeting
in
just
down
the
hall.
The
human
rights
commission
meeting
will
be
starting
at
5
30
pm
tonight.
J
J
There
are
two
vacancies
on
both
commissions
at
this
time,
and
the
chair
and
vice
chair
will
be
sending
recommendations
this
month
to
the
mayor
and
then
city
council
to
fill
a
couple
of
these
positions.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
city
council
members
in
advance
for
your
consideration
on
these
recommendations.
J
We
are
also
excited
to
have
your
support
with
cedaw
and
the
gender
equity
ordinance,
which
was
passed
in
july.
Our
dei
team,
with
the
support
of
the
human
rights
commission,
will
be
moving
forward
on
developing
the
framework
for
the
intersectional
gender
equity
analysis
and
we'll
have
more
updates.
As
this
develops.
J
The
crep
and
hrc
annual
reports
will
be
forthcoming
to
the
mayor
and
then
city
council
by
the
end
of
this
year,
and
we
hope
that
it
will
be
completed
by
december,
and
then
we
will
again
share
those
updates
with
you
in
a
meeting
like
this
right
now
joining
me,
I'd
like
to
introduce
our
equity
liaison
michelle
mooney,
who
is
the
newest
member
of
our
dai
team.
Michelle.
H
J
K
Hello
good
afternoon,
council.
Sorry,
let
me
pull
up
the
right
notes
or
I'll
start
talking
about
something
else.
K
So
this,
as
those
of
you
who
have
been
here
a
number
of
years,
probably
know,
is
the
first
of
three
planned
briefings
on
the
fy23.
Well,
actually,
on
all
of
the
legislative
intents
in
legislative
intent
statements.
These
are
the
council's
formal
requests
to
the
administration
and
they're
adopted
as
part
of
the
annual
budget.
K
So
you
may
or
may
not
remember
that,
depending
on
how
tired
you
were
by
the
end
of
the
budget
session,
the
objectives
today
are
just
to
exchange
information
and
clarify
any
of
the
fy23
language
for
the
purpose
of
the
departments
so
that
they
have
a
good
idea
of
how
to
plan
their
work.
K
It's
also
to
provide
feedback,
or
rather
for
them
to
provide
feedback
to
the
council
in
case
they
need
any
clarification
like
you,
we're
pretty
tired
at
the
end
of
the
budget
season,
and
so
sometimes
we're
not
really
very
clear.
K
So
I
believe
randy
hilliard
is
trying
to
get
on
this
call.
He
is
the
administration's
person
in
charge
of
this,
and
I
asked
him
to
also
let
the
department
directors
know
that
we
are
running
a
little
early
today.
But
I'll
tell
you
a
few
other
things
about
this
briefing.
One
is
that
as
council
staff
we'll
follow
up
on
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
that
departments
need
some
time
to
research.
K
Two,
if,
depending
on
the
chair's
preference,
we
could
ask
council
members
to
identify
any
legislative
intents
that
they'd
wish
to
discuss
and
then,
as
in
to
the
extent
that
department
members
come
online,
we
could
ask
them
to
identify
any
of
those
statements
and
then,
based
on
that
discussion,
the
council
can
always
choose
to
edit
the
intent
language
on
any
one
of
the
intents,
there's
no
expectation
that
the
issues
outlined
in
the
legislative
intents
will
be
solved
in
this
briefing.
So
just
just
as
a
warning.
K
The
idea
here
is
just
to
clarify
to
make
sure
that
both
both
parties
know
what
each
other
is
talking
about,
and
then,
finally,
the
second
legislative,
intense
briefing
will
be
scheduled
to
coincide
with
an
upcoming
budget
amendment.
Typically,
that
is
in
the
end
of
this
year
or
the
beginning,
probably
january
february,
is
when
that
briefing
will
be
held
and
the
third
planned
round
of
written
updates
and
responses
on
legislative
intents
will
be
in
the
annual
budget.
K
K
Okay,
so
you
can
find
this
list
in
attachment
c2
of
the
of
the
staff
report.
So
for
the
attorney's
office
there
were
three
legislative
intents
for
fy
23
one
was
a
boarding
boarded
building
fee.
It
says
it
is
the
intent
of
the
council
to
ask
the
administration
for
a
time
frame
when
the
council
can
consider
an
updated
boarding,
boarded
building
fee
or
request
that
the
attorney's
office
provide
a
draft
directly
to
the
council
office.
F
Can
I
thank
our
attorney's
office
for
once
again
being
prescient
in
light
of
the
events
that
just
happened?
Thank
you
for
having
this.
This
was
like
the
one
thing
I
was
going
to
bring
up
to
make
sure
it
was
on
here,
but
considering
how
our
firefighters
just
put
themselves
at
risk
again
for
aborted
building.
I
think
it's
really
time
for
us
to
have
our
owners
of
those
spaces
take
seriously
the
responsibility
to
the
city
and
to
the
constituents
and
our
firefighters.
L
To
thank
you,
council,
member
peter
estrada.
I
also
am
very
interested
in
this.
Is
there
any
update
on
when
we
can
expect
that?
I
understand
that
it
had
been
worked
on
at
least
that's
what
I
had
heard.
Unfortunately,.
K
Our
our
city
attorney
happens
to
be
in
the
room,
as
always
so
she's
coming
over.
L
G
Hi,
council
members:
this
is
a
project,
that's
in
conjunction
with
both
finance
and
can
because
there
is
a
fiscal
component
to
it.
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
fiscal
analysis
has
been
completed
and
our
office
will
start
working
on
the
ordinance
which
we
can
transmit
directly
to
the
council.
If
that's
your
preference
for
consideration.
L
G
Yeah
part
of
it
is
just
the
analyzing
the
difference
in
those
fees,
and
now
that
that's
been
done,
it
can
be
adopted
as
par
just
stand
alone.
Great
yeah.
H
And
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
just
briefly
how
we've
organized
it,
or
I
should
say,
allison
and
randy-
have
organized
it
a
little
differently
this
year.
There
are
many
of
these
legislative
intents
that
cross
departments,
but
I
think-
and
I
think
in
the
past
we've
just
sort
of
had
a
one
long
list
and
you
know,
departments
working
together.
I
think
in
this
year
we've
tried
to
figure
out
which
and
in
in
conjunction
with
the
administration
which
department
it
makes
sense.
H
To
kind
of
you
know,
be
a
point
person
of
some
of
some
sort.
But
clearly,
even
though
it's
the
attorney's
office,
like
katie,
said
it
heavily
involves,
can
and
finance
as
part
of
that.
So
sometimes
it
just
means
extra
coordinating.
K
K
K
And
then
the
third:
this
is
a
long
one,
an
ordinance.
K
Just
the
title,
oh
thank
you
ordinance
governing
donations
to
the
city.
A
G
And
I
know
that's
a
priority
particularly
of
council
member
fowlers.
It's
it's
a
pretty
significant
process
and
it
requires
some
collaboration
with
the
prosecutor's
office
to
try
to
figure
out
the
unintended
consequences
of
some
of
those.
So
it's
it's.
So
it's
a
long-term
project
for
us,
but
we
recognize
the
commitment
of
the
council
members
and
we're
equally
committed.
N
Thank
you,
katie.
Do
we
have
any
sort
of
timeline
on
an
update
of
things
or
if
we
can
come
back
for,
like
maybe
a
brief
briefing
on
something.
G
M
A
K
Trying
to
check
to
see
if
blake
is
on
the
line,
I
don't
see
him,
but
if
you'd
like
to
get
started
or
we
can.
A
So
just
I've
had
the
conversation
with
uta
on
this
and
others
on
this
idea
and
whether
it's
for
a
couple
months
or
different
months,
but
uta
is
open
to
a
discussion
at
this
point.
But
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
pursue
this.
Of
course
winter's
coming
up.
So
if,
if
we
could
get
a
jump
start
on
this,
it'd
be
great
and
I
think
uta
would
also
be
like
councilman.
A
You
know,
I
don't
know
it
was
the
start
of
the
start
of
school
season.
I
do
know
when
I
did
the
back
in
school.
They
were
all
excited
about
it,
and
the
schools
and
the
teachers
were
very
excited
about
their
passes.
Rachel
knows
rachel
knows.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Rachel.
C
L
A
And
I'm
sorry
on
the
on
this
one.
I
also
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
if
uta
or
we
are
capturing
some
of
the
data
that
were
from
ridership
for
k-12
and
teachers,
if
that's
possible,
because
I
know
it's
a
big
deal
for
them.
But
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
capture
that.
But
it'd
be
really
nice
to
see
data
from
that
those
residents.
K
Okay,
I
will
forward
that
request
to
the
transportation
division.
That's
probably
the
the
easiest
way,
so
they
can
centralize
it
in
their
dealings
with
uta.
Does
that.
K
Okay,
the
following
one
is
expediting
traffic
calming
projects,
and
I
believe,
there's
been
some
communication
with
the
council
from
john
larson
and
his
team
on
on
these.
A
Mike
I'm
sorry,
I'm
any
other
question.
I
just
had
one
comment
on
this
one.
My
only
question
or
comment
is
we're
getting
a
lot
of
emails
from
residents.
Saying
hey,
you
know
we'd
like
to
have
traffic
coming
in
our
area.
We'd
like
to
do
this,
this
business,
you
know
how
do
we
go
about
it?
We've
kind
of
talked
to
him
about
the
ordinance.
A
We
talked
about
the
calming
projects
we
have
going
on
and
the
way
we've
done
the
zoning,
but
is
there
any
other
way
for
the
residents
to
stay
abreast
on
the
traffic
calming
projects
and
and
how
they
can
get
their
neighborhoods
to
get
on
board
with
with
the
project
in
their
area?
So
we
can
kind
of
make
sure
we're
kick-starting
this
stuff
and
it's
not
like
stop
and
start
stop
and
start
stop
and
start
but
kind
of
flowing
through.
O
O
Okay,
if
not
yes,
so
one,
that's
one
avenue
that
those
projects
come
in
cip
applications.
I
think
the
hiring
of
the
new
fts,
which
we
appreciate
the
launch
of
public
facing
materials
and
call
for
projects
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
public
facing
portal.
I'm
happy
to
put
that
on
our
list
to
follow
up,
but
I
envision
that
we
have
a
landing
pad
where
there's
a
solicitation
outside
of
just
the.
I
know
my
council
member
and
reach
out
about
a
project.
So
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
we
can
absolutely
do
that.
L
Yeah,
mr
chair,
just
one
question
on
traffic
calming,
maybe
not
a
question
but
like
a
request
for
some
time
in
the
futures,
I'm
really
interested
in
the
the
money
that
we
funded
for
the
quick
action
solutions
for
traffic
calming
sort
of
the
somewhat
temporary,
but
on
the
ground
very
quickly,
and
whenever
that
program
is
ready
and
off
the
ground.
I'd
love
to
just
know
how.
I
can
tell
my
constituents
to
request
those
quick
actions
exactly.
O
Yeah
we
will
do
that
and
also
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
the
planners
that
you
funded,
those
jobs
have
been
open.
It's
been
a
really
tight
labor
market,
but
my
report
last
friday
from
john
is
there's
really
strong
candidates
for
each
of
those
positions.
So
as
soon
as
the
funding
is
available,
we
look.
It
feels
very
optimistic
to
start
upon
the
funding
arrival.
So
thank
you.
F
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
work
that's
starting
on
500
north.
I
was
real
frustrated
when
I
couldn't
get
down
the
street
one
day
and
then
magically
the
barriers
moved
and
there
was
a
raised
speed
hump.
So
thank
you
I'll
gladly
I'll
gladly
go
around
for
an
obnoxious
amount
of
days.
If
that's
the
result,
thank
you
all
for
that.
For
that
it
was
a
good
surprise.
K
And
then,
oh
sorry,
do
you
want
to
continue,
don't
mean
to
push
you
along?
Yes,
john
is
online.
Now
in
case
we
have
any
particular
questions
for
him
or
blake
and
I
can
catch
him
up
later.
So
the
the
next
item
is
youth
and
family
program.
Streamlining.
A
A
K
M
M
Two
yeah,
no,
I
you
know
I
I
already
mentioned
this
before
and
many
of
the
issues
that
we
hear
and
relate
to
landlords
they're,
not
following
the
rules,
and
they
seem
to
be
not
a
good
place
for
for
people
to
get
informed
and
educated
and
advocated
for,
and
I
believe
that
this
could
be
very
useful.
And
I
would
like
to
see
if
there
is
a
way
for
us
to
to
create
this
for
our
residents.
P
And-
and
I
wanted
to
add
to
what
council
member
poi
I
feel
like
this-
could
also
help
us
as
a
city
with
our
enforcement
issues,
because
we
are
aware
that
some
people
are
getting
federal
tax
tax
breaks
in
a
way
and
not
really
following
everything
that
they're
supposed
to,
especially
in
terms
of
safety
and
cleanliness
and
maintenance
of
their
buildings.
So
I'm
really
interested
that
this
happens
because
the
the
residents
are
paying
rent
they
serve.
A
I
guess
I'm
going
to
pound
this
in
because
I
I
would
agree
because
I've
gotten
a
couple
questions
about
the
landlord
tenant
program
and
the
you
know:
what's
the
actual
benefit
to
the
to
each
side,
both
the
tenant
and
the
and
the
landlord,
and
when
we
do
this
training,
is
this
a
one
and
done?
A
C
So
currently,
landlords
have
to
be
trained
every
three
years.
It's
in
part
of
their
management
agreement
that
they
sign
with
us
in
order
to
get
a
discount
rate,
but
tenants
is
probably
is
a
different
story.
We
don't
have
anything
for
tenants,
so
we
need
to
work
on
that
and
see
where
we
can
come
up
with
that
information.
You
know
the
apartment
association
does
the
majority
of
our
landlord.
C
I
don't
know
if
they'd
be
a
good
fit
for
a
tenant
and
it
would
be
more
of
a
city
run
program,
um's,
ombudsman
program.
So
we
will
look
into
that.
There's
a
few
cities
around
the
country.
Denver
does
a
really
good
job
on
their
landlord-tenant
program,
so
I
think
we
can
benchmark
a
few
cities
as
well.
A
K
And
so
council
chair,
dugan
began
the
conversation
a
little
bit
of
the
next
item:
the
covenants
education
in
the
landlord
tenant
program.
This
would
include
training
for
property
owners
on
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
or
ccrs
in
this
program,
and
specify
the
differences
between
enforceable,
ccrs
and
unconstitutional
ccrs,
which
I
believe
was
council
member
fowler's
interest,
as
well
as
others.
Of
course,.
A
C
No,
it's
completely
separate,
so
we
do
a
cost
analysis
on
every
fee.
That
requires
a
cost
analysis,
specifically
in
the
general
fund.
The
last
time
we
did
this
jennifer
was
here
and
actually
the
council
took
charge
of
it
and
then
said:
who
should
we
give
this
to?
And
they
said?
Oh
mary
beth
be
the
perfect
person
to
give
this
to.
C
Analysis
we
update
those
fees.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
cost
analysis
or
that,
but
I
think
this
is
more
of
an
equity
issue
that
you
all
if
we
could
define
the
scope
a
little
bit
better.
I
think
that
that
would
help
us
move
this
forward,
a
little
quicker
to
do
a
holistic
review
of
all
fees.
I
mean
you
know
how
long
it
is
it's
huge,
but
I
think
that
if
we
could
get
a
really
defined
scope,
it
will
go
quicker
for
the
finance
department
and
city
council.
H
And
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
in
their
to
mary
beth's
credit
finance
is
acting
like
they're,
not
also
trying
to
implement
a
generational
transfer
of
data
to
the
erp
system.
That
is
taking
most
of
their
time,
and
I
think
that
that's
just
a
reality
that
is
okay
to
acknowledge,
and
that
may
mean
that
there's
less
space
to
work
on
some
of
these
other
things,
mary
beth,
maybe
allison,
and
I
can
put
together
some
information.
I
think
from
some
of
our
notes
from
when
the
council
member
discussed
it
to
narrow
that
scope.
H
I
think
that
we
understand
what
the
council
members
were
interested
in,
not
not
doing
a
full
cost
recovery
on
a
pavilion
rental
and
maybe
not
doing
any
charge
on
or
a
nominal
charge,
or
something
on
on
certain
things
like
that
that
that
disproportionately
affect
families
that
can't
afford
it.
So
maybe
we
can
work
together
on
some
language
to
further
define
that
scope.
That
would
be
great.
K
A
K
K
Excellent,
thank
you
chief,
so
this
is
related
to
fire
department
costs.
The
council
would
like
in
would
like
some
evaluation
of
options
for
recouping
costs
for
calls
at
the
university
of
utah
about
the
city's
hazardous
materials,
ordinance
and
implementation,
and
the
options
for
electrified
fire
vehicles.
A
D
I
was
allison,
I
appreciate
it
so
as
far
as
cost
to
the
university
council
members
in
2021,
we
calculated
given
our
response
rate
of
1
130
an
hour
for
a
company
a
for
firefighter
company
per
hour,
that
we
allocated
1.2
million
dollars
to
the
university
of
utah
our
response,
both
fire
medical
in
2021.
D
So
that
gives
you
some
perspective
of
of
what
we
are,
what
the
amount
of
resources
we're
allocating
annually
and
as
far
as
recouping
that
I
I
don't
have
any
you
know
initial
thoughts
on
on
how
we
could
build
the
university.
Given
it's
a
state
entity.
We
probably
need
some
assistance,
obviously
from
the
city,
possibly
from
the
legislature.
D
I
would
assume
there
would
be
a
lot
of
hoops
to
go
through,
but
it
it
may
be
worth
it
to
the
council
to
seek
that.
H
We
could
we
could
ask
I'll.
Have
our
staff
add
that
to
our
check-in
with
the
lobbying
team
just
so
they
can
maybe
advise
on
what
the
best
path
might
be
going
forward
just
to
make
sure
we
stay
partnered
in
good
faith
with
the
state.
You
know
sure
we
wouldn't
want
to
send
them
a
bill.
They
don't
expect
and
thanks
chief
for
that
information,
that's
that's
very
helpful
to
understand
the
order
of
magnitude.
D
As
far
as
the
hazmat
recouping
hazmat
costs,
we
do
regularly
charge
or
bill
entities
that
experience
a
significant
hazmat
incident,
so
we
try
and
recruit
the
equipment
that
we
used
oftentimes.
We
do
receive
payment
for
that.
That
does
end
up
back
with
the
fire
department
through
pass
through
the
general
fund.
So
that's
been
in
place
for
quite
some
time,
so
we
observed
the
ordinance
that
is
in
place
any
questions
about
that
and
I'll
move
on
the
electrical
electric
fire
engines.
D
Okay,
so
we
are
keenly
interested
in
an
electric
apparatus.
There
are
a
couple
in
service
now
in
california.
I
believe
seattle
city
of
seattle
is
awaiting
one
as
well,
if
they
have
not
received
it
as
of
yet
so
we
are
watching
to
see
just
how
these
apparatus
perform.
There's
really
a
couple
of
manufacturers
that
are
are
developing
these
at
this
point
and
they
are
major
suppliers
of
our
current
fire
apparatus,
cars
and
nationwide.
So
I
think
they
realize
the
value
of
it
to
many
municipalities
across
the
country
and
as
they
as
they
perform
adequately.
D
We
are
certainly
going
to
be
interested
in
it,
so
we'll
keep
you,
the
council
and
the
city
administration
prized
about
their
development
and
how
they're
working,
but
I'd
love
to
have
a
be
the
first
fire
department
in
the
region,
mountain
west
region
to
have
an
electric
fire
apparatus.
I
think
it
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
and
it's
it
meets
all
the
priorities
for
salt
lake
city.
K
So
that
completes
the
discussion
on
the
fire
department.
Next
is
the
mayor's
office
and
fortunately
we
have
a
whole
table
full
of
people
from
the
mayor's
office.
Who
may
like
to
like
to
respond
or
ask
questions
about
any
of
these.
The
first
item
is
evaluating
efficiencies
across
diversified
response
teams.
K
The
idea
is
to
evaluate
these
different
response
teams
that
the
city
has
been
adding
to
determine
whether
there
are
opportunities
to
eliminate
redundancies
or
gain
new
efficiencies,
so
that
would
include
things
like
the
chat,
the
police,
social
workers,
downtown
ambassadors,
the
heart
team
park,
rangers,
etc.
There
are
more
listed
in
that
intent.
B
We
continue
to
have
hiring
challenges
around
social
workers,
as
do
all
service
provider
and
other
agencies
in
the
state
and
even
in
the
region,
but
we
have
12
social
workers.
I
believe
out
with
our
co-responder
model
with
pd.
Now
we
have
three
with
fire
department
chat
and
to
the
data
aspects
of
that.
B
You
know
that
we
do
still
have
the
homelessness
dashboard
that
tracks
some
of
some
data,
but
integrating
these
new
additions
is
absolutely
part
of
the
work
and
also,
as
you
know,
the
police
department
is
working
on
trying
to
make
more
transparent
ways
to
show
calls
diverted
and
different
diversion
opportunities
that
9-1-1
dispatch
is
finding.
So
those
two
different
formats
of
data
will
continue
to
be
updated,
oh
including
park
rangers
as
well,
and
the
engagements
that
they
are
tracking
right
now,.
A
Thank
you,
and
also
we
get
the
update
from
the
ambassador
program,
and
I
know
it's
not
one
of
these
response
teams,
but
it
is
a
very
big
response
team.
You
know
across
the
city
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
I
know
they
are
they're
all
talking
to
each
other.
So
how
well
are
they
talking
to
each
other
and
and
where's
the
overlap
and-
and
just
you
know,
give
us
a
good
picture,
because
I
think
that
that.
G
B
They
are
overlapping
in
that
venn
diagram.
Actually,
if
andrew
johnston
is
on,
he
is,
or
perhaps
rachel
are
more
closely
tuned
in
with
the
new
management
for
the
downtown
ambassador
situation,
and
I
don't
have
a
current
update
on
that
for
you,
but
if
they,
if
andrew's
not
available,
I
know
we
can
get
that
to
you
shortly.
A
And
maybe
we
can
just
talk
offline
about
the
an
idea
of
some
type
of
update
during
the
administration
update
it
with.
A
N
Performer
and
jen,
you
might
be
able
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
I
think
that
we
get
a
weekly
or
monthly
email
from
them
as
well.
So
I
I
think
it's
sort
of
the
information's
already
there,
maybe
just
having
it
presented
in
more
of
an
open
forum.
A
F
Else,
yeah,
and
I
think
I
think
for
me
on
this
one
I
just
want
to
make
sure
when
it
comes
time
for
us
to
evaluate,
like
I
just
had
to
ask
andrew
again
remind
me
what
rapid
intervention
does,
because
we
launched
so
many
and
so
on
this.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
using
the
right
yardstick
to
measure
the
right
outcomes
like
asking
the
park
rangers
to
do
what
emcot
does
won't
be
an
effective
way.
F
F
You
know
and
then
take
the
guesswork
out
of
it,
so
that
the
success
that
each
or
the
success
or
lack
of
success
is
very
apparent
based
on
what
each
individual
thing
is
and
I'm
struggling
with
the
alphabet
soup-
and
you
know
maintaining
another
job
outside
of
here
and
all
of
that.
So
that
would
just
be
really
helpful
for
me.
I
know.
B
You
know,
I
think,
that's
wise,
and
we
some
of
us
chatted
about
that
at
the
chat
press
conference,
how
we
have
made
dynamic
our
responses
in
a
really
substantial
way
in
a
short
time,
and
the
way
that
we
have
not
actually
brought
them
together
into
under
one
umbrella
of
diversified
response
for
the
public
to
understand
is
something
I
want
I'd
love
to
address
together
and
then
for
tracking
purposes.
B
I
think
that
you're
right
and
whether
all
of
that
fits
or
is
the
appropriate
place,
is
on
the
homelessness
dashboard,
I'm
not
sure
so,
if
any
of
you
have
advice
to
to
the
administration
about
how
we
can
dashboard
this
data
in
a
more
transparent
or
accessible
or
understandable,
relatable
way,
please
help
us,
because
this
is
we're
on
the
bit
of
the
cutting
edge
of
cities
around
the
country.
Doing
diversified
response
that
goes
beyond
call
diversion
to
to
civil
responders.
K
Thank
you,
and
so
just
as
a
reminder
that
council
had
requested
in
the
intent
that
the
administration
would
provide
information
in
six
months
and
in
one
year.
So
those
sort
of
requests
for
stopping
points
are
in
that
intent
and
we'll
plan.
K
Okay
and
then
there
was
one
more,
which
is
almost
more
of
a
reminder
on
the
importance
of
plan
adoption.
The
idea
is
that
the
council
wants
to
make
sure
that
city
departments
and
divisions
rely
for
their
for
their
work
on
plans
that
have
been
adopted
by
the
legislative
body
rather
than
plans
that
have
sort
of
that
have
not
yet
been
adopted.
So
the
idea
is
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
those
two
things
align.
K
A
K
All
right
public
lands
department,
the
only
one
for
this
year-
is
the
transition
to
environmentally
sustainable
weed
control
in
public
lands.
I
think
that
one
speaks
for
itself.
K
K
No
questions,
thank
you,
so
public
services
department
actually
just
has
one
and
it's
from
way
back
in
fy15.
So
I
think
we
can
skip
over
that
unless
you
say
otherwise,
mr
chair,
we
can
move
on
to
the
public
utilities
department.
K
A
M
M
H
M
H
That
was
the
original
discussion
of
it,
but
I
think
that's
why
these
discussions
are
helpful.
Is
that
sort
of
is
that
still
what
the
council
is
interested
in
looking
at
or
would
the
council
want
to
broaden
it
to
just
water
usage
in
general,
and
I
don't
know
if
director
briefer
had
other
information
to
share.
A
G
G
With
respect
to
rate
structure,
we
are
embarking
on
a
a
new
rate
study
this
year
that
was
approved
in
our
fy23
budget,
and
we
are
most
certainly
going
to
be
looking
at
drought
response
pricing
in
as
part
of
that
rate
structure,
analysis.
K
The
next
department
would
be
the
redevelopment
agency.
The
first
intent
for
fy23
is
new
programs
and
capital
accounts
review
here.
The
council
would
like-
or
the
board
in
this
case
would
like
to
consolidate
the
budgeting
and
policy
development
steps
for
new
programs.
Jennifer
may
have
more
to
say
about
this
one
yeah
this.
H
Was
more
of
a
suggestion
about
the
timing
of
allocating
money
for
budgets
or
allocating
money
during
the
budget
process
and
setting
policies
for
those
priorities
that
maybe
we
could
shift
it
to
talk
about
priorities
that
then
you
figure
out
how
much
or
whether
you
want
to
allocate
money
to,
and
it's
just
resetting
sort
of
the
time
time
time.
Development
of
that
and
I
think
rda
staff
is
aware
of
kind
of
what
we're
what
we're
looking
for,
and
so
we
can
keep
working
with
them.
On
that.
K
The
next
one
for
rda
is
to
prioritize
equity
and
variety
of
professional
opportunities.
The
idea
here
is
that
equity
and
inclusion
would
be
part
of
the
board's
policy
oversight
and
budget
decisions,
so
that
the
agency
would
maximize
opportunities
for
meaningful
involvement
with
a
wide
array
of
developers
and
professionals.
K
And
I
missed
a
little
bit
the
I
didn't
mention
the
second
or
third
sentence,
the
last
sentence,
which
is
also
about
projects
that
support
walkability
and
are
built
on
a
human
scale.
So
I
wanted
to
add
that
as
well.
K
First
of
all,
there
was
a
sustainability
holding
account
established
and
the
idea
was
to
allocate
certain
items
in
the
sustainability
department
to
a
holding
account
pending
further
discussion
of
the
council.
So
these
would
include
the
amount
for
ev
charging
stations
for
electrified
transportation
planning
and
for
food
equity
funding.
C
Thanks
council
chair,
I
know
that
debbie
lyons
is
online
too,
but
this
one
is
a
little
bit
unique.
Given
the
rest
of
the
legislative
intents,
and
my
understanding
is
that
sustainability
staff
and,
of
course,
the
mayor's
office
staff
too,
has
been
coordinating
with
council
staff
on
making
sure
that
the
questions
that
council
has
regarding
these
three
programs
are
getting
answered.
C
I
think
we're
already
also
coordinating
on
what
a
process
could
look
like
to
ensure
that
you
know
if
the
council
does
decide
to
take
this
approach
of
appropriating
money
with
these
conditions
that
we
have
a
set
kind
of
process
for
when
a
department
might
get
these
agendaed,
not
that
the
council
wouldn't
still
be
entitled
to
make
a
different
decision
after
getting
questions
answered.
But
it
creates
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
that
I
think
we're
trying
to
cooperatively
work
through
on
certainty
of
when
those
funds
can
then
get
spent.
H
K
The
last
one
is
council
led
intense,
so
I
guess
you
all
are
on
the
hot
seat
here.
One
of
them
would
be.
Can
rda
ded
role,
clarity,
so
it's
so.
The
council
would
like
to
clarify
the
roles
of
community
neighborhoods
redevelopment
agency
and
department
of
economic
development
as
they
relate
to
housing
and
commercial
development
and
assistance.
K
H
And
I
can
just
respond
from
our
staff's
perspective
that
we
are
working
on
this
and
the
there
is
an
account
with
funding
in
it
already.
We
haven't
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
get
the
brain
trust
together
to
see
what
made
sense
to
start
with
and
cindy's
online.
I
don't
know
if
she
has
anything
to
add,
but
it's
on
our
radar.
It's
just.
A
A
And
this
is
gonna,
be
the
question
on
alcohol
sales
on
the
golf
course.
A
A
Confused
on
the
golf
course,
vendors
and
the
ability
to
get
a
contract
with
the
vendor
when
alcohol
sales
is
one
of
their
biggest
revenue,
generators.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
item
number
four:
the
ordinance,
the
economic
development
revolving
loan
fund
for
the
cafe
cafe
with
allison.
K
Yes,
so
I
believe
yes
will
wright
is
here
just
as
an
introduction.
This
is
inevitable
and
also
roberta
reichelt.
This
is
another
one
of
the
economic
development
loan
fund
loans
that
the
council
has
been
reviewing
or
that
they
review
each
loan
as
it
comes
across.
This
would
be
for
cave
cafe
at
57,
south
six
east
it
it's
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
loan
at
seven
point
two
five
percent
interest
over
seven
years
and
it
would
create
five
new
jobs
in
the
next
year
and
retention
of
five
current
jobs.
J
Alison
council
members
good
good
to
be
with
you
this
afternoon
as
alison
mentioned.
This
is
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
loan
for
coff
cafe.
This
is
a
cute
little
turkish
style
cafe
and
she
makes-
and
she
does
runs
a
wholesale
baklava
business
and
you
have
not
had
it.
You're
missing
out
and
outlet
will
introduce
the
rest.
D
Yeah
thanks
so
much
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
present
this
for
this
loan,
so
cafe.
In
addition
to
being
one
of
the
few
turkish
coffee
shops,
I
think
even
nationally
they,
as
roberto
mentioned
wholesale,
really
delicious
baklavas
and
mediterranean
dips.
The
five
employees
that
they
are
looking
to
hire
are
to
ramp
up
the
production
to
meet
the
demand
for
their
baklavas
and
dips
with
the
local
markets.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
she
was
able
to
come
over
and
that
you
guys
were
able
to
review
her
program.
I
know
the
owner.
Many
many
years
ago
we
took
the
utah
micro
enterprise
loan
fund
program
together,
where
we
learned
about
how
to
run
a
business,
so
I'm
confident
that
she
will
be
able
to
perform,
and,
apart
from
her
delicious
pro,
you
know
product,
it
doesn't
matter
she'll
perform,
but
I'm
super
excited
that
she's
in
salt
lake
city
she
is
in
in
my
district
and
it's
a
minority-owned
and
woman-owned
company.
A
D
Can
I
just
to
let
you
know
she
also
uses
that
space
as
an
incubator
for
six
micro
enterprises,
which
is
nice.
D
I
A
We're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
one
and
then
we'll
take
a
break.
The
item,
six
water
conservation
and
landscaping
regulation
report.
I
R
Well,
council
requested
information
on
our
current
landscaping
regulations
to
discuss
ways
that
we
can
better
promote
water
conservation,
and
today
we
wanted
to
summarize
the
more
detailed
report
about
our
current
regulations
and
how
they
do
or
don't
align
with
goals
and
receive
direction
from
the
council
on
what
you
would
like
us
to
explore.
As
far
as
changes,
the
report
that
you
received
was
a
joint
effort
by
the
planning,
diminish
planning,
division,
public
utilities,
who
is
with
us
this
evening
too.
If
you
have
questions
for
them
and
civil
enforcement
next
slide,
please.
R
Next
slide,
thank
you
so
much.
Why
do
we
have
landscape
regulations
and
the
code
does
address
a
few
different
reasons
why
we
have
them,
and
that
can
be
generally
summarized
as
shown
on
this
slide.
R
This
photo
does
demonstrate
compliance
with
our
current
regulations,
but
with
this
type
of
landscaping,
is
that
appropriate,
given
our
climate,
the
availability
of
water
and
the
threat
of
increasing
temperatures
associated
with
climate
change,
that's
one
question
next
slide.
Please.
R
Landscaping
is
generally
regulated
in
six
different
ways
within
the
zoning
ordinance
park,
strip,
regulations,
yard
regulations,
buffer
regulations,
water,
wise.
We
address
parking,
lots
and
highway
buffers.
In
addition
to
these,
there
are
some
special
landscaping
requirements
that
apply
to
some
zoning
districts
next
slide.
Please
all
right
park,
strip
regulations,
let's
get
into
these
puppies
park
strip
regulations
require
33
or
one
third
of
plant
coverage.
That's
what
we
have
right
now
in
the
books.
R
33
percent
is
actually
lower
than
most
other
cities
in
our
region
and
a
lot
of
other
cities
in
the
southwest
u.s
that
actually
received
less
annual
precipitation
than
salt
lake
city
does
annual
precipitation
is
important,
because
it's
that
supplemental
watering,
that's
required
for
plants
that
requires
more
water
than
naturally
provided
from
the
rain
or
when
there
are
large
gaps
between
rain
events
within
our
zoning
ordinance.
If
a
park
strip
is
over
a
certain
width,
a
street
tree
is
actually
required
in
addition
to
that
33rd
percent.
R
R
This
isn't,
hopefully
an
interesting
slide
for
you.
We
wanted
to
draw
your
attention
really
did
these
photos.
They
were
taken
in
salt
lake
city.
If
you
look
on
the
left,
it
really
demonstrates
well,
actually,
both
of
them
really
demonstrate
what
happens
in
urban
areas,
where
there's
non-permeable
surfaces
that
cover
more
surface
areable
than
purple
permeable
surfaces.
So
the
picture
on
the
left
is
an
actual
picture
that
shows
the
gutter
being
overwhelmed
in
a
monsoon
rainstorm.
R
What
I
wanted
to
tell
you
is
the
grass
park
strip
just
north
of
that
up,
the
street
was
full
of
golf
salt
golf
balls
sized
rocks
right,
so
those
rocks
through
the
rain
came
down
and
filled
up
the
gutter,
and
you
get
the
situation
in
the
left
photo
they
they
were
washed
out
and
clogged
the
storm
during.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Next
slide
no
worries
about
that
and
other
regulations.
You
know
screening
of
dumpsters,
like
I
said
there
are
a
number
of
regulations.
It's
nearly
200
different
landscaping
regulations
in
the
zoning
ordinance
right
height
of
park
strips
so
then
they're,
not
too
tall,
so
that
when
a
toddler
is
running
around
a
car
seats,
them
right,
auto
sales
lots
clear
views
when
we're
taking
a
right
or
left
on
the
corner.
R
R
Just
really
wanted
to
transition
to
some
of
the
issues
with
the
code.
The
primary
point
is
to
demonstrate
that
the
code
could
be
better
in
line
with
some
of
the
goals
of
the
city,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
conserving
water.
The
image
on
the
left
shows
two
different
properties
in
the
m1
zoning
district.
R
The
picture
on
the
left
is
a
front
yard.
That's
100
percent
landscaped,
mostly
with
sod.
It
complies
with
the
code.
The
picture
on
the
right
does
not
comply
with
the
code
because
it
doesn't
meet
that
33
percent
vegetation
requirement,
but
even
if
some
plants
were
added,
the
picture
on
the
left
or
the
picture
on
the
right
is
more
aligned
with
conserving
water
than
the
property
that
doesn't
comply
next
slide.
Please.
R
Park,
strict
landscaping
is
intended
to
again,
like
I
mentioned,
absorb
storm
storm
drainage,
provide
street
trees
to
help
clean
our
air
and
reduce
that
heat
island
effect.
The
image
this
image
shows
a
park
strip
that
aligns
with
the
purposes
right
of
the
landscape
requirements,
but
it
doesn't
meet
the
technical
aspect
of
the
code
right
now.
If
you
see
with
these
trees,
you
you
have
the
walkway,
but
we
don't
count
the
area
underneath
the
tree
canopy
as
vegetation,
so
we're
requiring
even
more
vegetation
when
those
trees
are
there.
R
R
R
It
could
be
partly
due
to
like
the
200
plus
some
regulations
that
we
have
in
the
code
and
it's
very
time
consuming
for
us
to
administer
very
time
consuming
the
image
shows
like
a
new
project.
That's
rely
that
is
required
to
comply
with
all
the
landscaping
requirements.
Doing
the
right
thing
in
this
photo
right.
It's
using
water,
wise
plants,
but
this
is
what
it
looks
like
for
our
development
review,
planners
and
planners
looking
at
a
landscape
plan,
because
we
need
to
follow
a
strict
application
of
the
code
right
now.
R
First,
the
planner
needs
to
get
the
plans
identify
mature
size
of
each
plant
used.
Sometimes
those
are
actually
put
on
the
landscaping
plants
sometimes
they're.
Not
then
we
have
to
calculate
the
total
area
of
vegetation
by
adding
up
all
of
the
plants
on
the
plan,
then,
after
that,
your
planter
needs
to
check
if
there's
a
hydro,
hydrozone
schedule
on
the
plans.
Sometimes
that's
there.
R
Sometimes
it's
not
based
on
that
schedule,
hoping
that
it's
there,
the
planner
then
verifies
all
the
plants
in
the
hydro
zone
and
to
determine
if
it's
appropriate,
with
the
flow
rate
that's
shown
on
the
heads
for
the
hydro
zone.
You
get
the
picture.
I
think
here
on
larger
projects
like
this
one.
Honestly
it
can
take
hours.
R
We
now
only
require
landscape
plans
to
include
the
plants,
the
hydro
zone
of
each
plant
and
for
the
architect
to
basically
just
verify
that
they
match
next
slide.
Please
other
issues
that
come
up
mostly
due
to
property
owners
wanting
to
do
the
right
thing
by
reducing
outdoor
water
by
all,
and
also
like
maintaining
that
green,
aesthetic
value
of
landscaping.
R
R
More
and
more
people
are
using
artificial
turf,
and
while
we
can
debate
whether
it's
appropriate
there's
justification
for
preventing
that
in
park
strips
the
code
allows
the
use
of
pavers
in
front
yards
and
in
some
instances
does
allow
the
entire
park
strip
to
be
converted
to
public
use.
But
it's
not
really
very
clear
for
our
residential
property
owners.
R
This
picture
shows
both
stamped
concrete
and
non-stamped
concrete.
You
can
see
that
there
used
to
be
spaces
for
what
was
probably
street
trees
on
that
picture
on
the
right.
That's
since
been
removed
and
concrete
does
create
a
lot
of
issues
for
us
most,
notably,
it
really
makes
it
more
difficult
to
access
broken
supply
lines
that
run
under
the
park
strips
it
increases
cost
for
public
utilities
to
make
repairs
it
causes
more
wear
and
tear
and
equipment,
etc.
R
R
R
R
Should
we
allow
artificial
turf
in
some
instances,
do
we
treat
front
yards
differently
than
park
strips?
How
do
we
consider
the
administrative
costs
of
the
example
of
the
code
that
we
have
on
the
books
right
now?
How
do
we
consider
the
administrative
costs
of
like
applying
it
and
enforcing
the
ordinance,
along
with
the
cost
of
property
owners?
R
F
Can
you
clarify
for
me
how
things
like
the
northwest
vegetation
overlay
interact
with
these
sorts
of
things,
because
from
what
we're
talking
about
here,
we're
talking
about
everything,
not
just
residential
but
we're
talking
about
commercials?
Some
of
those
pictures
were
from
the
commented
properties
out
there.
C
C
So
I
believe,
what's
included
in
that
overlay
is
a
native
plant
species
list
and
I
believe
you
can
also
substitute
shrubs
for
trees.
There's
not
a
tree
requirement,
whereas
in
other
places
in
the
city
there
is
that
tree
requirement.
So
it
is
an
overlay
district
and
that
district
has
specific
landscape
standards.
C
It
would
okay.
Thank
you.
A
C
New
development
today
would
have
to
be
native.
Only
is
my
understanding.
If
it
was
a
development
that
had
occurred
before
the
overlay
district
was
enacted,
then
they
would
be
able
to.
A
M
So
I
you
know
this
is
this
is
an
important
issue
for
for
me,
and
you
know-
and
I
believe
that
most
of
us
are
have
opinions
about
this.
M
I
I
believe
the
the
biggest
problem
that
I
see
in
parking
strips
is,
and
I'm
talking
about
parking
strips
first
is
grass
the
use
of
grass
and
maintaining
grass
and
parking
strips
is
very
complex
and
hard,
and
it's
hot
and
grass
doesn't
want
to
live
there
and
we
use
grass
that
doesn't
belong
here
in
utah
and
we
shouldn't
be
using
it
and
even
in
a
photo
in
and
that
you
showed
us
about
a
good
use,
the
parking
strip
in
there
and
it's
right
across
the
street
from
the
new
track
station.
M
This
the
city
and
the
rda
inaugurated
a
few
weeks
ago.
It's
all
grass
and
I
drove
by
it
a
month
ago,
or
so
when
it
was
raining
and
they
were
watering
the
gigantic
amount
of
grass.
While
it
was
raining,
so
I
cannot
think
of
anything
that
is
more
insulting
to
to
all
of
us
that
they
are
trying
and
I'm
not
picking
on
this
organization
right.
But
I
I
feel
like
not
only
we
need
to
do
better
at
that.
M
Yes,
this
this
hormone
or
this
owner
did
a
good
job
in
landscaping,
their
their
property,
but
when
it
came
to
the
parking
strip,
they
decided
to
put
grass
and
they
are
watering
and
during
the
rainstorms.
So
to
that
point
I
feel
like
we
should
be
able
to
require
smart
controllers,
meaning
they
read.
They
know
they're
connected
to
the
wi-fi.
M
The
state
of
utah
gives
you
a
rebate
and
when
you
are
developing
a
property
for
millions
of
dollars,
I'm
sure
you
can
afford
a
couple
hundred
dollars
of
a
smart
controller
that
understand
if
it's
raining
not
to
water-
and
I
think
that
is
the
low
hanging
fruit
in
there
that
we
should
be
incentivizing.
These
smart
controllers,
especially
on
on
parking
strips,
but
my
goal
here
is
to
what
I
feel
like
is
the
goal
that
we
should
all
try
to
meet
and
as
hard
as
to
disincentivize
the
use
of
grass
and
the
parking
strips.
M
How
do
we
do
that?
I
don't
know
I
feel
like
that
is
kind
of
hard,
because
we
are
requiring
a
percentage
of
of
plants
in
there
and
when
you
put
plants
separated
it's
also
hard
to
measure
how
much
is
30
percent
or
30.
You
know
32
percent
of
it,
and
also
I
have
questions
about
that.
I
planted
some.
You
know,
I've
been
doing.
M
M
So
I
feel
like
there
is
a
lot
of
variables
here
and
we
just
need
to
use
common
sense
and
it's
hard
to
I
mean
we
have
to
define
what
common
sense
is.
I
guess,
but
to
me
it's
very
important
that
we
disincentivize
grass
in
the
parking
strip
and
I
feel
like
there
should
be
a
double
standard
between
gras,
the
parking
strip
and
the
front
yard
of
houses.
M
And
when
you
take
those
classes
from
local
scapes,
you
know
they
teach
you
about
grass
and
they
teach
you
about
the
use
of
grass
and
how
useful
grass
could
be
if
you
are
using
it.
But
if
it's
just
for
decoration,
we
try.
We
should
try
probably
to
disincentivize
that-
and
I
actually
just
added
a
little
piece
of
grass
in
my
backyard.
M
It's
not
only
for
decoration
and-
and
I
that's
what
I
hope
that
we
can
achieve
with
this
with
the
new
ordinances
is,
that
is
that
we
incentivize
grass
and
we
actually
ask
new
developers
a
new
growth
in
our
city
to
use
smart
technology
to
water,
and
I
also
have
that
issue
with
heat.
M
When
we're
talking
about
heat
island,
those
trees,
you
showed
us
a
photo
where
there
was
two
gigantic
trees
right
and
then
those
black
mulch
and
then
the
pathway
in
between
and
that
technically
didn't
qualify
for
it
didn't
you
know,
didn't
meet
the
ordinance
right.
R
M
Those
gigantic
trees
are
giving
you
what
we
need,
which
is
you
know,
cutting
the
heat
island.
So
technically
it's
not
meeting
the
heat
island.
You
know
spirit
of
the
law,
but
it's
definitely
doing
that
because
we
do
want
those
gigantic
trees
there
and
also
planting
trees
plants
under
shade.
It's
not
great,
sometimes
it's
kind
of
hard
to
keep
him
alive.
M
So
I
think
that,
while
I'm
not-
I
don't
know
if
I'm
making
sense,
but
it's
kind
of
hard
it's
going
to
be
a
very
hard
ordinance
to
to
create,
but
I
think
the
goal,
in
my
opinion,
is
planting
more
trees.
That
gives
us
a
lot
of
shade
and
it
gives
us
you
know
it
breaks
the
heat
island
end
up
with
the
incentivized
grass
and
hopefully
that
we
can
incentivize
the
use
of
smart
controllers
in
every
place.
We
can.
Q
I
actually
think
that
this
in
terms
of
priorities,
I
think
that
simplicity
is
almost
as
important
or
maybe
more
important
than
sustainability,
because
I
I
mean
I
want
to
say,
sustainability
is
the
most
important
thing,
but
honestly
like
it,
it's
ridiculous
right
now,
like
it's
literally
like
as
a
lawyer
as
a
council
member,
I'm
not
confident
that
I
could
do
this
to
my
house
without
assistance
from
somebody
else
in
the
city
and
that's
really
kind
of
an
indictment
of
the
whole
system
right
now,
and
so
I
think
that
people
should
be
able
to
go
to
a
website.
Q
You
know
scroll
down
a
couple
times
and
have
a
pretty
good
understanding
of
what
they
are
and
are
not
allowed
to
do,
and
if
we
can
get
more
park
strips
that
are
compliant
and
that
are
and
that
are
easier
for
people
to
figure
out,
then
the
more
people
are
going
to
do
it,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
count
how
many
constituents
I've
had
over
the
years
who
have
either
come
to
me
and
said
I
tried
to
do
it
and
I
gave
up
because
it
was
too
hard
or
I
tried
to
do
it
and
I
messed
up
and
I
got
fined
and
it
ended
up
costing
me
more
money
for
trying
to
do
the
right
thing,
and
I
just
don't
think
that
I
mean
those
are
that's
a
disastrous
outcome
like
that's
a
that's
a
total
failed
outcome
so,
like
I
don't
know
why
we
can't
like,
if
you're
willing
to
do
depending
on
the
size
of
your
lot
a
tree
and
the
tree
canopy
covers
the
parking
strip.
Q
I
feel
like
you
should
be
done.
You've
done
your
part
as
long
as
you
don't
put
rocks
under
the
tree
so
that
it
kills
the
tree
like
you,
you've
won
the
game,
and
we
can
talk
about
like
what
what
the
rules
should
be
for
the
rest
of
the
yard,
but
really
like
the
trees
in
the
park
strip.
If
they
want
to
do
trees
and
and
bark
or
something
like
that,
like
they
should.
That
should
be
you're
good.
I
Q
P
Q
Q
I
feel
like
we
have
to
explore
that
as
an
option
and
and
learn
more,
I
mean
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
what
experts
or
people
that
know
more
about
what
it
is
made
of
and
how
it
works
in
real
life
in
order
to
make
a
decision,
but
I
feel
like
there's
a
real
resistance
to
having
the
conversation
about
about
turf,
and
I
think
that
turf,
like
many
things,
is
very
different
today
than
it
was
10
years
ago.
Q
So
I
want
to
have
that
conversation
for
sure,
but
like
simplicity,
and
I
think
that
has
to
be
first
and
because
we
can
move
the
we
can
move
people
along
on
the
sustainability
part,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
system
in
place,
that's
simple.
First
we're
already
losing
people
and
we're
you
know
we're
getting
articles
in
the
newspaper
angry
residents.
It's
it's
a
it's
an
issue
that
comes
up
all
the
time.
So
those
are
my
thoughts.
L
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
councilmember,
sipui
and
wharton
have
said.
I,
I
think
simplicity
is
really
important
in
this.
I
also
am
pretty
confident
that
I
didn't
do
everything
right
when
I
landscaped
my
park
strip,
and
I
didn't
know
that
I
was
doing
it
wrong,
so
it
is
complicated
to
know
exactly
what
you're
allowed
to
do
and
what
you're
not
allowed
to
do
in
terms
of
priorities.
L
I
think
you
said
it
right
that
they're
rebalancing
various
priorities
between
water
conservation,
urban
heat
island
and
then
what
was
the
third
one
storm
water,
storm
water
system
right
and
those
are
three
difficult
things
to
they.
The
solution
for
each
of
those
is
is
sort
of
at
odds
with
the
solution,
for
the
other.
So-
and
I
guess
from
my
my
feeling-
is
that
all
three
are
very
important.
I
think
that
our
current
ordinance
perhaps
does
not
put
water
conservation
as
high
as
I
would
like
it
to
be.
L
So
I
think
I
would
like
the
the
changes
to
be
not
to
get
rid
of
the
other
two
requirements,
but
to
increase
the
the
priority
of
water
conservation
more
than
it
is
currently.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
things
that
councilmember
puy
was
saying,
and
I
think
you're
you
said
incentivize
or
disincentivize
things.
L
I
think
there
are
some
things
we
could
require
and
not
have
to
use
incentives
and
just
say
you're
not
allowed
to
plant
this
in
this
area
or
you're
not
allowed
to
plant
more
than
this,
and
I
think
that
so
percentages
are
difficult
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
better
to
say,
like
it's
percentages,
are
easy
when
it's
things
like
concrete
grass
or
gravel
fields.
L
But
when
it's
a
plant,
which
is,
I
think,
what
we
want
to
encourage,
then
it
may
need
to
be
x,
number
of
plants
per
per
acre
per
square
feet,
or
something
like
that.
Because
that's
something
you
can
count-
and
I
know
that
the
small
plant
in
a
large
plant
are
very
different
in
terms
of
what
they
contribute
to
the
reduction
of
the
urban
heat
island,
but
there's
probably
a
middle
ground
that
we
can
get
to
where
it's
like
you
just
need.
You
have
this
many
square
feet
of
yard.
L
You
need
this
many
plants
and
maybe
we
find
strike
a
middle
ground
between
what
a
small
plant
and
a
large
plant
contributes,
and
I
know
that
that's
going
to
not
be
entirely
as
precise
as
the
33
coverage,
but
it's
probably
a
lot
easier
to
administer,
and
then
I
think
we
can.
I'm
not
opposed
to
saying
these
are
the
prohibited
things
these
plants,
that
that
are
bad
for
whatever
reasons,
because
they
take
way
too
much
water
or
they
do
way
too
many
things.
L
You
cannot
have
more
than
x
number
of
these
or
you
cannot
have
them
at
all
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
I
think-
and
I
think
the
same
thing
could
be
done
with
turf,
like
as
in
the
same
way
that
we
say
a
certain
percentage
needs
to
be
planted
because
of
urban
heat
island.
L
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
not
opposed
to
putting
restrictions
as
to
what
can
be
how
much
grass
and
how
much
of
those
things
we
can
put
in,
and
I
think
that
there's
the
percentage
should
be
different
between,
and
I
think
it
may
be
currently
is
not,
or
is
I
don't
know,
but
between
planted
surface,
which
reduces
urban
heat
island
effect
and
impervious
surface,
which
creates
runoff
problems,
and
I
think
that
we
should
require
more
impervious
surface
than
planted
surface,
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
L
R
F
To
be
careful
because
on
our
side,
the
rocks
and
those
become
the
the
businesses
had
to
stop
using
them
because
they
were
used
to
smash.
H
F
L
P
I
want
to
know
no,
no,
we
want
to
know
sorry
laura.
No,
I
think
I
I
wanted
to
so.
I
agree
with
them
and
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
what
chris
says
so
simplicity
and
two
and
two
the
priorities.
Right
now
in
everybody's
mind
is
the
drought
you
know
so
water
conservancy
is
going
to
be
an
easy
sell
for
a
lot
of
people.
People
want
to
do
it
already.
P
We
just
need
to
have
it
in
an
ordinance
that
it's
easy
to
understand
and
make
it
happen
and
another
big
issue,
but
then
three,
I'm
sure
there
are
others.
We
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
like
we're
trying
to
reinvent,
I
feel
like
with
all
this,
the
rock
size,
the
the
percentages
where
I'm
sure
they're
somewhere
out
there,
that
they
have
already
figured
out
only
I
hate
to
say
plagiarized,
but
let's
just
use
some
of
those.
You
know
ideas
that
are
already
out
there
working
artificial
turf.
P
A
Thank
you.
I
would
agree
on
the
simplicity
side
and
the
water
conservation
and
the
heat
indexes.
Those
are
the
three
top
priorities
and
after
reviewing
this
document
and
also
going
through
my
neighborhoods,
where
people
are
definitely
not
abiding
by
the
current
standards,
I
have
a
lot
of
I've.
Seen
a
lot
more
rocks
in
the
park
strips
a
lot
more
rocks
in
front
yards,
I
mean
I
have
a
neighbor
who
took
out
everything
and
just
put
rocks
in
there.
I
was
like
oh,
my
god.
A
Whether
and
this
would
be
for
me
would
be
the
whole
yard,
not
just
the
front
yard
or
the
backyard,
but
the
whole
yard,
the
whole
non-buildable
area
say
33
or
something
of
that
nature,
and
then
we
kind
of
look
at
the
what's
native
and
what's
non-permeable
permeable,
that's
kind
of
simplifies
things,
but
it
also
gives
it
a
maximum
level.
A
I
A
A
minimum
and
go
up
and
that
way
we
can
see
more
natural
escape
and
probably
conservation
on
the
on
the
effort
there.
I.
A
F
Seeing
a
materials
blacklist
things
like
I
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
can't
find
the
reason
for
kentucky
bluegrass
in
our
area
of
the
world.
You
know,
or
clay,
probably
is
a
terrible
idea
for
trying
to
increase
absorption.
You
know
I
wouldn't
mind
seeing
a
materials
black
list
of
things
that
are
absolutely
inappropriate
for
us
as
well.
N
Yeah,
I
just
really
quick
want
to
say
a
couple
of
things
going
back
to
this,
as
everyone
has
said,
the
simplicity
idea,
but,
as
you
pointed
out,
we
all
know
that
the
only
way
that
somebody
not
the
only
way,
I
would
say
the
majority
of
the
way,
that
there
is
something
that
somebody
realizes
that
the
city
realizes
somebody
is
not
compliant
is
when
their
neighbor
complains
and
then
the
neighbor
who
thinks
that
they're
doing
all
the
right
things
goes
through
and
has
to
jump
through
hoops
and
having
just
gone
through
this
with
my
ex's
house.
N
It
is,
it
is
two
years
two
and
a
half
years
later
and
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
be
compliant
with
the
park
strip
and
and
all
of
the
things
that
are
required
there.
And
then,
on
top
of
that,
you
in
fact
pointed
put
one
of
the
pictures
on
here.
N
You
know
we
have
somebody
in
my
neighborhood
going
through
all
of
this
trying
to
become
compliant
on
the
park
strip,
and
then
we
as
a
city,
redo,
ninth
east
and
at
the
beginning,
there
was
absolute
zero
vegetation
with
all
of
those
rocks
which
really
scare
me,
because
they
then
become.
You
know
things
that
can
go
through
people's
windows
in
cars
and
run
over,
and
so
we
as
a
city
can't
apparently
in
some
ways,
figure
out
how
to
be
compliant
with
our
ordinance.
N
So
it
seems
that
we
should
probably
really
look
at
that
and
and
to
honest
point,
I'm
certain
that
you
all
have
better
ideas
as
best
practices
throughout
the
country
and
what
what
trends
are
and
what
we're
looking
at
so
that
we
aren't
reinventing
the
wheel
right.
But
I
I
would
love
to
actually
see
more
simple
requirements.
The
idea
of
new
buildings
that
alejandro
brought
up
the
idea
of
new
buildings
using
smart
technology
ali
is
absolutely
right.
N
If,
if
we
put
it
in
as
a
requirement
from
the
very
beginning,
people
will
put
it
into
their
budgets
right,
and
that
is
a
requirement
that
we
can
actually
make
not
just
incentivize
it
with
maybe
older
buildings
or
we're
remodeling
or
doing
some
adaptive
reuse.
Perhaps
that,
then,
is
an
incentive
same
with
the
drought
resistant
grass.
N
But
if
we
make
it
a
requirement
for
new
buildings,
then
it
it
just
is
a
requirement.
The
city
makes
requirements
for
new
buildings
all
the
time
right.
So
I
think
looking
really
at
what
what
we
can
require
and
then
what
we
can
incentivize
so
that
we're
not
having
people
who
want
to
just
remodel
their
front
yard,
be
the
ones
that
are.
You
know,
punished
unfairly,
because
they
can't
understand
the
same
ordinance
that
we
as
a
city
can't
understand.
So
just
some
thoughts.
A
And
I'll
have
one
more
on
back
to
councilman
wharton's
idea
on
the
the
shade
and
you
mentioned
in
in
the
present
and
the
transmittal
about
shade
coverage.
You
know
that
also
makes
it
easier.
Of
course,
that's
a
mature
tree.
You
have
a
tree,
that's
just
been
planted.
You
have
no
idea
what
the
shade
is,
but
it
will
have
some
shade
at
some
point,
hopefully
so
again
simplifying
the
idea
of
the
benefits
of
that
shady
tree
compared
to
grass.
So
any
other
comments
from
the
council
questions.
F
I'd
like
us
to
get
really
aggressive
in
the
northwest
quadrant,
I
like
the
native
grasses,
but
I
really
really
do
believe
that
we
have
to
add
trees
out
there
and
all
of
those
commercial
developers
that
I've
spoken
to
are
really
interested
in
putting
whatever
irrigation
systems.
They
are
fine
with
watering
trees.
They
understand
the
long-term
implications,
but
I'd
like
us
to
see
us
be
really
aggressive
with
the
northwest
vegetation
overlay
as
quickly
as
possible.
Please.
M
Let
me
say
that
I
took,
although
you
know
I
graduated
from
local
scapes.
You
know
I
took
all
those
classes
when
they
offered
them
in
person,
which
I
was
very
useful
for
me
to
learn
how
to
do
that
and
I
and
to
your
point,
mr
chair,
to
do
a
max
and
local
scapes
will
tell
you
that
it
depends
on
your
use
right
and
you
know
having
grass
if
you're
using
it.
M
It's
not
a
bad
idea
now
you
know,
but
if
you
are
just
using
grass
as
a
decoration,
you're
wasting
all
sorts
of
time
to
mow
all
sorts
of
water
to
to
keep
it.
You
know
looking
okay
and-
and
this
is
why
I
think
it
is
a
complicated
ordinance.
I
think
all
of
us
want
a
simple
ordinance
and
I
would
like
to
refer
to
other
organizations.
They've
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
time,
local
scapes.
M
I
cannot
speak
highly
enough
about
their
work
and
how
they
change
people's
views.
I
mean
I
remember
going
to
those
classes
very
quickly,
people
that
always
believed
the
grass
was
the
right
way
to
go
and
them
showing
them
the
photos
and
how
beautiful
it
is
and
how
less
work
it
was
and
less
water
they
they
were
conv,
convinced
about
how
beautiful
and
practical
everything
is.
So
thank
you.
L
Yeah
thanks
mr
clarify:
when
you
were
talking
about
minimums
and
maximums,
you
were.
Were
you
referring
to
all
vegetation
or
just
grass,
just
grass?
So
do
we
have
any
minimum
grass
requirements?
My
understanding
was,
we
did
not
it's
just
minimum
vegetation
requirements
and
that
can
be
drought,
drought,
tolerant,
any
kind
of
plant
right.
Okay,.
A
So
and
that's
why
I
use
the
term-
and
I
I
don't
know
who
coined
the
term,
but
there
was
the
non-functional
turf
being
you
know,
a
baseball
diamond,
a
football
field,
a
lacrosse
field,
that's
functional
turf,
because
you're
playing
it
on
grass,
a
non-functional
turf,
is
the
green
lawn
out
in
front
of
you
know
the
acres
of
laying
out
there's.
No
one
touches.
No
one
walks
on.
No
one
can
walk
on
because
it
says
please
do
not
walk
on
it.
That's
non-functional.
C
L
In
that
case,
yes,
I
agree
with
you
instead
instilling
a
maximum
for
non-functional
turf
is
great.
I'm
would
be
supportive
of
that.
I
would
not
be
supportive
in
completely
reducing
all
eliminating
all
minimum
vegetation
requirements,
because
I
do
think
urban
heat
island
is
one
of
the
important
effects
and
we
important
aspects,
and
we
can't
get
rid
of
that,
so
some
minimum,
whether
it's
a
number
of
plants
or
amount
of
shade,
I
don't
know
what
it
is-
whatever's
easy
to
administer
and
actually
produces
a
reduction
in
the
urban
heat
island,
but
I
think
that's
important.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you.
This
is
a
great
discussion
and
it's
a
timely,
and
but
it's
also
you
know,
keep
it
simple
is
is
a
very
good
adage
and
we
all
probably
know
that
the
kiss
prince
principle.
H
Mr
chair,
just
from
a
process
perspective
just
wanting
to
check
in
with
the
administration
team,
do
you
guys
feel
like
you
have
the
feedback
you
need
to
bring
back
kind
of
more
actionable,
orient
or
ordinance
changes
to
the
city
code?
Obviously
you
know
knowing
that
it'll
take
some
time.
I
think
that
that's
what
the
council
is
like
hoping
to
to
act
on
at
some
point.
Q
C
I
don't
think
that
we've
discussed
a
specific
timeline.
I
think
this
is
one
of
our
priorities
over
the
winter
and
hopefully
have
something
well
before
spring,
so
that
the
next
planting
season-
you
know
at
least
something
would
be
in
the
process.
Q
Yeah,
okay,
I
I
mean
part
of
the
reason
I'm
asking
is.
I
know
that
the
mayor
did
a
moratorium
on
some
of
the
enforcement
that
was
pending,
which
I
think
was
absolutely
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
that
can
only
go
for
six
months
and
I
feel,
like
it's
probably
been
six
months,
so
I'm
worried
about
those
50
to
60
people
that
are
yeah.
H
More
than
that,
looking
at
katie
and
maybe
rachel,
because
I
think
that
the
decision
to
enforce
is
still
administrative,
and
so,
unlike
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine,
where
you
know
you
can't
make
a
law
and
have
a
pause
in
like
a
zoning
designation,
I
think
the
administration
could
still
decide
what
to
enforce.
Is
that
right?
Yes,
I
hear
cindy
chiming
in
too.
She
must
know.
Q
A
G
A
A
K
K
K
It's
focused
particularly
on
people
who
struggle
with
substance,
abuse,
mental
health
and
physical
disabilities
and,
or
I
should
have
said
services
would
be
similar
to
a
permanent,
supportive
housing
development.
The
pilot
project
would
be
located
on
eight
acres
of
city-owned
property
at
1850,
west
indiana
avenue,
as
well
as
part
of
an
adjacent
parcel
to
the
north.
A
portion
of
the
of
this
land
was
used
as
landfill
from
about
the
1930s
to
the
1960s.
K
The
proposal
from
tosa
is
that
the
other
side
village,
which
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
pronounce
as
an
acronym,
would
lease
the
area
for
40
years
at
one
dollar
per
year,
tosa
has
agreed
to
pay
for
all
costs
of
remediation
for
the
site
and
the
cost
of
development
and
operation
of
the
pilot
project.
K
Any
future
requests
to
lease
additional
city
properties
for
less
than
fair
market
value
would
be
submitted
to
the
council
and
include
a
supplemental
public
benefits
analysis.
The
council,
just
looking
to
your
future
schedule.
The
council
will
hear
public
comment
on
this
resolution
at
the
september
20th
formal
meeting.
K
S
So
because
of
these
challenges
in
2020,
the
administration
began
to
explore
new,
innovative
solutions
to
addressing
the
homelessness
crisis.
At
this
time,
an
informal
exploratory
partnership
was
formed
between
the
administration
and
the
other
side
academy.
The
other
side
academy
is
a
501c3
nonprofit,
and
this
partnership
was
formed
to
explore
the
feasibility
of
a
tiny
home
village
that
provides
housing
for
chronically
homeless
individuals.
S
Tosa
brings
unique
experience
with
operation
of
therapeutic
communities
that
help
with
those
that
have
long
histories
of
addiction,
crime
and
really
help
to
stabilize
their
lives.
So
the
other
side,
village
concept
was
formed.
It's
proposed
to
be
a
recovery
housing
model
that
aligns
with
the
national
alliance
for
recovery
resident
standards.
S
The
full
project,
as
alison
mentioned,
is
anticipated
to
be
up
to
40
acres
on
city-owned
property
located
at
1850,
west
and
also
1965
west
500.
South,
the
city
owns
two
large
parcels
there,
but
the
entire
project
would
go
up
to
40
acres.
So
currently
the
administration
and
tosa
have
narrowed
the
scope
to
a
pilot
project
that
will
be
limited
to
approximately
eight
acres,
which
is
the
pilot
site
to
demonstrate
feasibility
of
the
concept.
S
S
S
So
tosa
plans
to
target
individuals
who
are
considered
chronically
homeless
and
hud
defines
chronically
homeless
generally,
as
those
who've
experienced
home
homelessness
for
12
months
or
more
either
consecutively
or
in
chunks
of
homelessness,
and
also
struggle
with
a
disabling
condition.
So
you
have
to
have
both
of
those
to
meet
the
definition
of
chronically
homeless.
S
If
units
are
not
available
or
there
are
no
applicants
that
meet
the
strict
definition
of
chronically
homeless,
we
have
negotiated
with
tosa
that
they
could
offer
the
units
to
individuals
who
meet
the
definition
of
homeless.
Hud's
definition
of
homeless
is
a
much
lower
standard.
It's
just
those
currently
living
in
a
place
not
meant
for
human
habitation
and
there's
no
time
period
attached
to
that
definition.
S
The
pilot
project
will
include
supportive
services
to
assist
homeless
persons
in
transitioning
from
homelessness
and
really
help
to
enable
tenants
to
live
as
independently
as
possible.
The
scope
and
scale
of
the
on-site
services
is
yet
to
be.
Finalized
host
is
negotiating
with
several
different
service
providers.
Some
letters
of
interest
were
provided
in
your
packet.
S
S
A
preference
for
sobriety
may
be
established
by
tosa,
but
must
comply
with
federal
and
state
fair
housing
laws.
Tenants
will
be
required
to
have
a
source
of
income
to
pay
rent
so
that
source
of
income
could
be
a
job.
It
could
be
social
security,
disability
or
it
even
could
be
a
tenant-based
voucher,
but
they
would
have
to
be
able
to
pay
rent.
S
S
There
will
also
be
village
coaches
living
on
site,
who
will
provide
non-clinical
case
management
services
and
there
will
be
off-site
supportive
services
coordinated
as
well,
and
I
should
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
what
is
included
in
the
pilot
project.
It
would
be
60
tiny
units
to
be
used
as
housing.
S
54
of
those
will
be
restricted
as
affordable
and
six
of
those
units
will
be
offered
as
staff
living
quarters.
So
those
will
be
those
village
coaches.
There
will
also
be
community
space
and
space
for
supportive
services
about
12
000
square
feet
for
a
community
center
that
will
house
the
support
of
services,
a
2,
000
square
foot,
neighborhood
center
that
will
be
clubhouse
type
uses
and
then
a
10
000
square
foot
social
enterprise
building.
S
S
The
majority
of
these
costs
will
be
covered
by
in-kind
work
and
donations.
As
of
july
6,
tosa
reported
to
city
staff
that
almost
2.2
million
in
cash
has
been
committed
and
received.
Another
3.1
million
and
cash
was
pledged,
and
the
remaining
balance
is
either
committed
or
expected
to
be
received
through
in-kind
assets
and
services.
So
donation
of
labor
work
and
supplies
next
slide.
Please.
S
S
S
The
remaining
balance
of
that
comes
from
revenue
generated
through
the
social
enterprises,
so
14
of
that
would
be
through
cookie
revenue
41
through
the
thrift,
boutique
and
35
percent
through
the
community
in
next
slide.
Please
looking
at
other
public
benefits
and
as
alison
mentioned,
there's
an
informal
public
benefits
analysis
provided
in
your
packet
that
was
prepared
by
the
attorney's
office,
with
assistance
in
project
details,
provided
by
can
staff,
and
it
does
point
to
environmental
remediation
of
the
site
as
another
public
benefit
that
will
be
provided.
S
Joseph
grenny,
one
of
the
tosa
representatives
and
his
wife
have
committed
to
providing
up
to
five
million
dollars
as
a
development
shortfall,
guarantee
that
isn't
hasn't
been
provided
through
a
legal
mechanism.
We
do
have
a
letter
from
joseph
grenny
and
his
wife
and
tosa
has
also
provided
to
cover
up
to
a
one
million
dollar
annual
operating
shortfall.
S
S
So
we
have
done
an
informal
public
benefits.
Analysis
of
formal
public
benefits.
Isn't
analysis
isn't
required?
So
the
city
council
may
waive
fair
market
rental
rates,
but
first
must
hold
a
public
hearing
so
that
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
the
20th,
and
there
is
also
the
zoning
change
consideration.
That
is
also
moving
forward
through
a
council
process.
A
L
S
Oh
well,
tosa
would
have
to
be
paying
operating
costs
throughout
the
year.
So
I
imagine
if
there
are
budget
issues
or
issues
with
revenue,
they
would
have
to
reassess
their
operating
model
and
possibly
have
a
discussion
with
the
city.
If
the
assurances
and
the
commitments
provided
through
the
ground
lease
are
not
able
to
be
met-
and
I
should
mention
tosa
representatives
are
here
and
are
also
online.
If
you
have
specific
questions.
L
With
the
40-year
ground
lease,
so
if
those
commitments-
and
I
guess
this
is
just
a
legal
question-
if
those
commitments
are
not
made
like
there's-
not
60
houses
built
and
it's
not
all
these
things
are
not
happening,
it
do.
Can
we
terminate
the
lease
prior
to
the
40
years
and
if
those
commitments
are
met
at
the
40-year
mark-
and
we
just
say
you
know
this-
the
commitments
were
met,
but
the
actual
result
wasn't
what
the
public
was
expecting
do.
S
Unpack-
all
of
that,
so
first
emmy,
and
maybe
we
want
the
attorney's
office
to
weigh
in,
but
I
believe
we
will
have
requirements
in
the
ground
lease
and
if
those
requirements
aren't
met,
it
could
constitute
a
default
on
the
ground
lease
and
the
ground
lease
I'm
assuming
would
provide
a
way
to
cure
those
defaults.
So
it
would
work
through
that
process,
but
I
believe,
if,
if
they
do
default
and
if
they
don't
provide
what
they
say
they're
going
to
provide,
we
can
terminate
the
lease.
S
I
believe-
and
we've
also
talked
about
when
doing
development
projects.
We
typically
require
a
document
called
a
right
to
repurchase.
This
isn't
we're
not
selling
the
land,
so
it
wouldn't
be
a
right
to
repurchase,
but
we've
talked
about
a
right
to
purchase
the
improvements
potentially
so
that
could
give
assurance
to
the
city.
L
G
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
katie
lewis,
the
city
attorney
from
the
back
row,
and
I
think
that
the
the
concept
that
tammy
is
talking
about
is
a
it's,
not
a
repurchase,
but
it's
a
right
to
purchase
the
improvements
that
have
been
constructed
on
the
property
because,
typically
when
you
are
leasing
property
and
someone
builds
something
on
it,
there
might
be
a
question
of
whether
or
not
you
as
the
landlord
own
it
or
whether
the
people
who
built
the
built
the
improvements
own
it.
G
And
so
this
is
an
opportunity
to
clarify
that
if
that
operator
cannot
perform
on
what
they
said,
they
were
going
to
do
that.
The
city
could
step
in
take
ownership
of
those
structures
and
improvements
and
find
a
new
operator,
and
that's
a
that's,
a
legal
document
that
we
can
incorporate
into
the
ground
lease.
P
But
I
have
a
question
regarding
to
that,
but
katie.
So
what's
an
example
of
that
that
maybe
that
you
may
have
happened
so
I
cannot.
I
cannot
wrap
my
head
around
so
if
I
so
like.
So
if
I'm
building
something
let's
say,
I
put
an
electrical
plug
in
a
building
that
I
rent
and
then
my
lease
is
not
renewed.
G
One
example
that
I
can
think
of
that
salt
lake
city
has
done
is
in
some
of
our
senior
centers
salt
lake
county
is
our
operator,
but
if
the
lease
ends
there's
an
arrangement
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
buy
what
they've
improved
on
the
property
or
they
have
the
opportunity
to
buy
the
property.
So
it's
a
sort
of
a
back
and
forth
contractual
agreement
that
sometimes,
when
we
do
when
we
have
city
property
and
an
op,
a
different
operator.
P
G
M
Land
trust
is
actually
a
very
good
example
of
this
right,
because
you
know
we
could
potentially
keep
the
land
ownership,
but
the
structure
we
don't
own
it
right
there.
Whoever
is
buying
this
property,
will
buy
the
structure,
not
the
land,
but
I
mean
that's
how
I
understand
it
and
I
think
it
is
a
similar
concept
about
the
division
between
the
land
and
the
structure.
M
But
I
I,
when
it
comes
to
remember,
manoa
and
you
just
stepped
away
but
mentioned
the
the
shortfall
I
do
have
questions
about
the
the
grandiose
of
this
project
and
the
theater,
and
all
these
amazing
things
that
I
I
hope
that
they
happen.
M
M
We
also
should
do
the
same
thing
to
the
non-profits
that
are
servicing
those
on
shelter
in
our
city
that
are
constantly
running
and
debt
and
they're
coming
to
us
asking
us
for
more
funding
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't
be
participating,
but
I'm
saying
that
we
should
keep
the
same
standard
to
everybody
just
to
to
be
fair,
because
we
all
trying
to
push
for
the
same
thing.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
just
say
when
we
were
talking
about
this
issue.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
a
couple
more.
Maybe
a
series
of
questions
and
I'll
ask
unless
other
people
want
to
chime
in,
but
I'm
just
assuming
all
the
units
are
ada
compliant
as
far
as
entrance
and
facilities
and
appliances
and
stuff,
and
then
how
do
we
on
the
fair
housing
act?
Compliance
are
we
certain
that's
they're
going
to
be
compliant
and
we've
already
gone
through
the
legal
reviews
of
that.
S
Yes,
we
have
done
legal
reviews.
There's
the
project
is,
is
contemplated
to
be
in
the
recovery
housing
model,
but
it's
also
contemplated
to
be
longer
term
housing.
So
it's
not.
It
can't
really
operate
as
a
recovery
program,
so
it
does
have
to
comply
with
fair
housing
laws,
as
it
is
longer
term
housing,
so
tosa
will
need
to
comply
with
things
like
if
a
resident
refuses
certain
types
of
services
they
have
that
right.
S
There
can
be
a
preference
for
certain
types
of
tenants,
but
not
a
mandate.
Things
of
that
nature
and
tosa
has
agreed
to
comply
with
all
fair
housing
laws.
A
S
So
the
tosa
plans
on
standardizing
the
rent
by
unit,
but
the
limitation
with
rent
the
maximum
rent
would
be
based
off
of
25
of
ami
and
the
number
I
gave
you.
The
448
was
25
percent
of
ami
for
a
single
person
for
a
two-person
household.
That
would
be
slightly
higher.
A
In
on
the
it's
pretty,
a
very
beautiful
unit
looks
very
functional
and
very
efficient,
but
early
on
we're
talking
about
people
that
have
been
chronically
homeless
and
as
their
services
provided
for
meals,
so
that
they
can
start
to
actually
support
themselves
in
their
own
unit
meal
service.
I
mean
cafeteria
type
of
stuff.
Is
that
part
of
the
community
area,
because
early
on
we're
gonna
have
people
that
probably
can't
don't
have
that
skill?
At
that
point,.
S
Yeah,
you
may
want
tosa
to
speak
to
the
details,
but
tosa
is
implementing
a
like
a
two-step
model,
so
there
will
be
a
welcome
neighborhood
and
then
they'll
graduate
onto
one
of
the
more
permanent
units.
The
welcome
neighborhood
previously
was
contemplated
to
be
on
site,
but
with
the
mix
of
land
uses
and
the
land
uses
they
needed
to
generate
revenue
for
the
project.
The
welcome
center
is
now
located
off-site.
S
A
I
think
that
that
helps
out
and
a
couple
questions
on
the
25
units
that
are
set
aside
for
the
res.
I
don't
want
to
say
receiving
the
early
on
those.
Would
the
city
be
able
to
use
those
for
our
hotel
vouchers
for
our
our
homelessness,
so
we
could
actually
rent
them
out
with
a
hotel
voucher
like
we
do,
for
their
hotels,.
S
We
have
not
negotiated
a
specific
relationship
to
do
that,
but
I
believe
they
would
be
available
to
utilize
the
vouchers
the
the
units
are
complement
or
contemplated
just
to
be
available
for
the
general
public
to
act
as
a
motel
tosa
believes
there
will
be
a
lot
of
visitors
to
the
village
that
may
rent
space
volunteers
would
rent
space
in
the
community
inn
as
well.
F
So
we're
just
at
this
point
talking
about
an
initial
eight
acres.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
flex
up
to
40..
Do
we
have
clear
understandings
or
is
that
the
next
step
of
what
we're
hoping
to
see
with
these
pilots
before
we
feel
comfortable
moving
on
and
would
we
would
we
phase
it?
I
mean
we
can.
We
can
anticipate.
F
This
is
something
of
a
model
shift
for
tosa
and
I'm
so
thankful
for
the
work
you've
already
done
and
for
the
number
of
times
you
have
come
back
to
the
table
to
try
to
get
this
work
done.
But
this
is
a
significant
model
shift
for
them,
and
so
there
is
the
usual
growing
pains
that
we're
to
expect,
and
then
there
are
the
red
flags
that
we
are
getting
too
far
afield
and
have
we
clearly
delineated
what
those
are
and
what
triggered?
What
is?
F
S
Right
we,
we
haven't,
talked
about
specific
indicators
to
include
in
the
ground
lease
in
general,
we
have
talked
about
kind
of
looking
at
three
areas.
The
financial
success
and
feasibility
is
tosa
able
to
generate
the
revenue
to
be
self-sustaining
and
operate
without
additional
subsidies
from
the
city.
The
impact
on
the
target
population
of
chronically
homeless
individuals.
S
O
And-
and
I
think
that
there
are
terms
that
we
can
put
in
the
lease
agreement
to
that
point-
that
we've
had
tentative
discussions
with
tosa
about.
Has
the
pilot
program
demonstrated
that
it
hasn't
adversely
affected
the
surrounding
neighborhoods?
So
we
could
evaluate
police
department
calls
to
the
neighborhood
emergency
response,
requests,
non-emergency
hotlines,
yes,.
F
O
Yeah,
I
believe
we
are.
We
have
a
great
partner
in
tosa
in
terms
of
the
site,
improvements
and
our
transportation
team
is
aware,
knowing
it's
not
approved
at
this
point,
but
it
is
proposed,
has
been
meeting
with
tosa
and
I
know:
tosa
has
met
with
representatives
from
uta
and
other
and
union
pacific
to
talk
about
site
development,
amenities,
access.
L
Tammy,
you
did
a
really
good
job
of
listing
out
those
three
evaluation
points
and
I
think
those
those
are
all
important
and
those
seem,
I
think,
they're
inclusive
of
the
things
that
I'm
concerned
about,
and
I'm
I'm
hopeful
for.
My
question
is:
how
did
the
40-year
term
get
settled
on?
Is
that?
L
L
It
seems
like
we
could
analyze
whether
or
not
this
pilot
project,
because,
as
by
definition,
a
pilot
project
is
something
we're
trying
for
the
first
time,
and
we
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
work
or
not
so
seems
like.
We
could
evaluate
that
much
sooner
than
40
years
and
also
if
it
were
not
successful
and
it
were
sort
of
staggeringly
unsuccessful
or
something
like
that.
L
40
years
is
a
long
time
to
be
subsidizing
something
or
to
be
dealing
with
that.
So,
like
would
would
there
be
any
consideration
to
a
shorter
term
and
like
a
sooner
evaluation,
and
if
these
certain
goals
are
met,
then
it
automatically
can
convert
to
a
longer
term.
But
40
40
years
seems
like
a
long
time
both
to
test
the
concept
and
two
to
be
in
a
contract.
If
it
in
fact
doesn't
work.
S
I
think
the
40-year
number
just
came
from
discussions
between
the
administration
and
tosa.
Typically,
you
set
a
ground
lease
at
the
a
term
that
would
kind
of
match
up
with
the
lifetime
of
the
improvements
so
on
when
we're
doing
ground
leases
on
like
a
multi-family
building,
it's
typically
100
years,
but
these
are
tiny
homes
not
built
to
the
standard.
You
know
of
a
of
a
big
multi-family
development,
so
we
realized
that
was
way
too
long.
S
But
tosa
does
want
the
lease
long
enough
because
they
are
putting
a
lot
of
investment
into
the
property
through
the
environmental
remediation
and
also
there
will
be
considerable
investment
in
just
infrastructure,
streets,
sidewalks
landscaping,
so
tosa
does
want
enough
assurance
that
there's
a
commitment
from
the
city,
so
it
was
kind
of
a
balancing
act.
There.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
so
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
Tammy
you
may
have
said
this
and
I
missed
it,
but
any
of
those
evaluation
benchmarks
would
those
be
put
into
the
agreement
listed
out.
I
mean
pretty
explicitly,
I
think
about
when
we
were
doing
rda
projects
right
or
and
the
first
one
that
comes
to
my
head
is,
of
course
a
stadler.
N
I
mean
we
had
how
many
down
to
how
many
employees
they
had
to
have
at
certain
at
certain
times
throughout
this,
because
we
were
kind
of
going
outside
of
the
normal
box,
and
similarly
this
I
don't
know
if
it's
so
outside
the
normal
box,
but
it
seems
like
council
members
would
want
to
make
sure
those
benchmarks
are
explicitly
stated
within
the
agreement,
and
you
may
have
said
yes
and
I
missed
it,
but.
S
I
well
I
said
we
have
been
talking
about
specific
benchmarks,
so
those
are
the
three
categories
we're
talking
about
and
we
haven't
come
up
with
specific
benchmarks
yet,
but
we
definitely
can
do
that
and
work
with
tosa
to
come
up
with
those
and
communicate
those
to
the
council
and
include
those
in
the
agreement.
Okay,.
N
And
then,
secondly,
if
you've
ever
worked
with
me
on
these
projects-
and
I
think
it
goes
a
little
bit
to
what
council
member
peter
eschler
said-
I
love
unicorns-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
feed
them.
So
how
do
we
have
numbers
as
per
the
agreement
or
what
was
in
the
staff
report?
Is
you
know,
we'd
be
giving
the
one
dollar
per
year
for
40
years,
and
the
city
would
commit
to
securing
and
maintaining
the
property?
N
K
I
can
take
that
if
it's
helpful,
I
think.
K
So
I
think,
just
to
clarify
the
city's
responsibility
would
remain
for
maintenance
and
security
for
the
parts
of
those
two
partial
parcels
that
aren't
used
for
for
the
other
side
village.
The
parts
that
are
used
they
would
be
in
charge
of.
Does
that
make
sense,
so
is
that
eight
acres
versus
dozens
of
acres?
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
H
I
think
the
question
on
the
unicorn
funding
would
be
if
there
was
a
situation
like
tammy
mentioned
earlier,
where
the
city
bought
the
improvements
on
the
property
and
suddenly
became
the
owner
operator
right.
I
don't
think
that's
the
intention,
but
I
think
that's
the
case
where
you
would
find
yourself
in
that
seat.
M
Yeah,
mr
chair,
thank
you
I
to
the
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
unicorn
as
well,
but
I
I
would
like
to
have
clarification
about
this
blue
and
red
light.
The
lines
on
the
map,
because
they
both
say
almost
the
same
thing.
One
says
approximate
approximate
pilot
project
area
pointing
to
the
red
line
and
then
on
the
side
it
says
note:
pilot
site
is
defined
by
the
smaller
blue
boundary.
S
Yeah
that
that
was
my
note,
we
had
the
city
surveyor
plot
the
legal
description
provided
by
tosa,
so
it's
the
blue
line,
but
I
think
right
now
the
site
plan
is
subject
to
change
a
little
bit.
It
will
still
be
eight
acres
in
that
general
area.
The
utah
geological
survey
is
currently
doing
some
fault
line.
Trenching
and
testing
right
there
so,
and
also
the
outcome
of
the
environmental
testing
could
adjust
a
little
bit
where,
where
things
are
placed,
but
it's
in
that
general
area
and
eight
acres,
okay,.
M
This
is
that's
helpful,
thank
you
and
going
back
to
the
unicorn.
My
question
is:
when
we're
talking
about
securing.
I
think
the
concern
of
many
neighbors
is
that
this
becomes
or
it's
it's
similar
to
some
of
the
issues
we
see
with
the
the
resource
centers
in
downtown
and
the
if
we're
going
to
be
securing
the
older
parcels
and
they
become
unsanctioned
campaign
and
all
the
costs
associated
with
that
and
the
impacts
to
the
community,
and-
and
you
know
this
will
be
problematic-
it
will
be
a
big
issue
for
the
west
side.
M
We
already
have
quite
a
bit
of
these
issues
every
day.
So
that
is
something
that
I
feel
like.
We
need
to
talk,
and
you
know,
will
you
know
what
is
the
commitment
and
how
we
can
you
know
if,
if
you
want
split
bill
about,
if,
if,
if
a
camps
start
forming
there-
and
you
know
on
in
a
constant
basis
from
people
that
are
not
part
of
the
the
the
village
or
they're
kicked
out
of
the
village?
M
For
whatever
reason-
and
you
know,
how
do
we
mitigate
that
to
the
community
and
how
do
we
find
the
the
balancing
act
without
you
know,
breaking
the
bank
also
because
it
potentially
could
be
something
very
onerous
and
and
hard
to
control.
So
that
is
something
that
I
would
like
to
to
see
if
we
can
actually
get
some
clarification,
because,
yes,
if
we're
going
to
secure
the
other
parcels,
do
we
want
to
put
a
fence
up
or
do
we?
You
know
what
mechanisms
to
secure
this?
P
Thanks
tammy,
along
the
lines
of
that
you
know
it.
I,
the
other
side
academy
has
been,
has
been
a
great
neighborhood.
Sorry,
a
great
neighbor
to
our
neighborhood
here
in
in
my
district
and
there's
a
sense
of
like
this
will
work
and
they
will
be
great
neighbors
to
to
the
west
side.
P
But
there's
also
these
hesitancy
on
my
part
because
of
what
victoria
said
you
know,
it's
it's
a
shift
on
the
model
of
of
treating
housing
and
and
helping
people
get
back
on
their
feet
and
be
you
know,
self-sufficient
and
all
of
the
things,
and
this
is
a
new
group
that
they
will
be
trying
to
help
that
have
other
difficulties
in
life.
That
might
not
just
be
you
know.
P
A
criminal
record
might
be
more
a
medical
issue,
and
so
that's
why?
Where
I'm
a
little
skeptical,
because
we
did
a
similar
thing,
where
we
gave
land
away
for
permanent,
supportive
housing
and
it's
not
working
out
and
because
they
have
not
been
able
to
secure
funding
for
for
what
you
call
it
for
for
security,
and
so
it's
a
very
hard
thing
for
the
neighborhood
and
for
our
city,
where
it's
kind
of
out
of
control,
sometimes
most
times
during
the
week.
So
that's
why
you
know
I'm
still
on
the
fence
about.
P
Another
thing
that
could
you
know
make
me
feel
better
about:
this
is
the
economic
development
portion
for
the
west
side.
The
west
side
has
been
wanting
more
things,
more
amenities,
more.
You
know
more
shopping
options
for
a
long
long
time.
Since
I,
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
I
was
hired
as
an
intern
to
find
land
to
do
a
big
supermarket
guys
in
2005,
and
that
hasn't
happened.
It's
been
a
long
time
so
this
I
think
the
other
side,
village
village,
presents
that
opportunity.
P
It
is
in
their
plans,
but
it's
something
that
I
would
like
to
see.
In
tandem
like,
I
would
feel
better
if
a
nice
new
amenity
for
the
entire
community
for
the
entire
neighborhood,
you
know
would
happen
at
the
same
time
I
it
seems,
like
you
have
the
funds
it
seems
like
there
is
a
lot
of
people
willing
to
donate.
P
There's
a
lot
of
funding
out
there
for
you
guys
to
make
it
happen,
so
I
would
be
way
more
comfortable.
That
was
also
you
know
the
intention
of
the
other
side
village,
because
I
know
you'll
be
good
neighbors,
but
but
it's
a
difficult.
It's
a
difficult
population
that
we're
going
to
bring
into
the
neighborhood
and
then
lastly,
you
know
with
investment,
it's
a
large
investment
from
the
city
and
from
the
taxpayers.
P
Like
I
said
you
know,
permanent
support
of
housing,
things
that
we
have
participated
in
where
there
is
this
always
is
ask
always
is
we
didn't
have
enough
things?
Changed
costs
change,
a
donor
fell
through
whatever
there's,
not
enough
federal
money
to
make
this
happen,
and
so
because
it's
a
pilot
project,
I
would
be
more
inclined
in
maybe
a
short-term
lease
or,
at
the
very
least,
to
say.
P
This
is
as
much
as
I'm
willing
to
you
know
to
participate
in
this
new
pilot
program
until
it's
proven
that
it
is
actually
an
amenity
and
it's
an
a
real
solution
for
you
know
for
this
mentally
ill.
You
know
neighbors
that
we
will
have
in
this
neighborhood.
So
that's
where
I
stand
right
now.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
hard,
but
not
impossible,
that
you
know
that
the
applicant
can
make
these
things
happen.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
I
want
to
go
on
record
here
and
say
that
this
is
new
and
therefore
there
are
so
many
reasons
for
us
to
be
nervous.
The
humanity
of
the
people
going
into
this
village
are
to
be
centered,
and
our
neighbors
on
the
west
side,
who
have
repeatedly
needed
things
to
happen
for
them
are
also
to
be
centered
in
this
and
so
tammy
and
blake.
Thank
you
because,
a
very
few
short
weeks
ago,
it
felt
like
getting
to
a
place
where
we
had.
F
The
answer
to
the
questions
was
not
possible
and
I
don't
even
know
how
you
have
the
attention
to
detail
that
you
do
tammy,
but
I
will
thank
whoever
in
the
universe,
gave
it
to
you,
because
it
has
benefited
us
mightily.
The
other
side
academy.
I
have
to
tell
you
guys
there
is
like
one
other
organization.
F
M
I
would
just
want
to
throw
an
idea
out
there,
sorry
about
that
and
the
newest,
the
newest
iteration
of
this
program
included
this
25
standalone
rental
lodging
and
in
the
previous
iterations.
I
never
heard
of
that,
and
it
might
have
been
me
not
paying
enough
attention,
but
it
is
a
newer
amenity
that
they
are
trying
to
add
to
the
program
as
a
ren
revenue
generating
enterprise,
and
I
you
know.
M
I
also
would
like
to
challenge
this
organization
to
council
member
baltimore's
point,
and
this
is
a
point
that
I've
been
trying
to
to
to.
You
know
to
talk
about
for
a
little
while-
and
I
wasn't
received
very
well
not
by
those
organized
but
nobody,
the
organization,
but
that
you
know
that
the
market
is
something
that
they're
the
neighborhood
wants
very
badly.
M
We
lost
another
market
in
the
neighborhood
very
recently,
and
one
of
the
few
left
over
my
question
is
to
the
organization,
and
I
hope
that
maybe
this
is
something
that
you
guys
can
relay,
or
maybe
they
would
like
to
chime
in
now
or
in
the
future
that
maybe
turning
five
of
those
units.
Instead
of
being,
you
know,
25
rental
units,
there's
20
rental
units
and
five
of
those
trailers,
or
you
know
tiny
homes
or
whatever
you
know
you,
you
combine
them
and
you
make
a
small
market.
M
You
know
as
a
tippy-toeing
around
the
full
market
that
you
want
to
to
build,
to
give
you
a
little
a
token
to
the
community,
but
also
it
proves
your
point
about
the
enterprises
that
you
run
very
successfully
actually,
and
so
I
think
it
will
be
a
good
amazing
talking
to
the
community
and
it
still
still
does
what
you
want
to
do.
It
keeps
the
the
rental
lodging
idea
and
you
also
create
another
step
towards
the
full
blown
market
which
might
come
in
the
next
stages.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
more
of
the
financial
on
the
operation
cost
just
digging
into
that.
They
talked
the
village
talked
by
2026,
having
2.9
million
dollars
a
year
generated
from
the
enterprise,
and
so
I
did
a
couple
mathematical
problems.
Real
simple
right
and
41
coming
from
the
thrift
store,
really
equates
to
1.2
million
of
profit
going
into
it.
A
A
A
It
comes
out
to
be
a
million
dollars
a
year
divided
by
365,
divided
by
25,
comes
out
to
110
dollars
a
night
per
unit
at
100
occupancy
of
profit
going
in,
and
that
to
me
seems
like
quite
a
bit,
and
I
just
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
a
good
job
of
vetting
those
figures,
because
I
don't
they.
If
they're
too
optimistic,
then
we're
back
to
the
unicorn
and
it's
it's
not
going
to
work,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everyone's
doing
this
homework
problem
with
their
eyes
wide
open.
O
Yeah.
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
those
questions
we
followed
up
with
tosa
and
asked
to
verify
those
numbers
as
well,
and
they
had
a
couple
of
market
studies
completed
based
on
a
70
occupancy
rate
at
their
price
point.
So
for
whatever
it's
worth,
we've
been
doing.
That
fact
checking
as
well
to
ensure
those
are
realistic
numbers
in
the
pro
forma.
A
Okay
and
then
I'm
assuming,
then
the
market
rate
can
absorb
another
million
dollars
of
a
thrift
store
on
top
of
it,
I'm
just
and
probably
the
city.
A
Can
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
eyes
wide
open
on
this,
because
that
that
would
be
a
concern,
because
if
I
don't
want
the
city
to
be
the
one
who
has
to
burden
and
and
come
up
with
the
shortfall,
I
know
there
is
some
funding
out
there
from
the
ceo
saying:
hey
we're
going
to
back
the
program
with
so
many
millions
of
dollars
over
so
many
years.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
looked
at.
Thank
you.
P
One
last
question:
it
is
my
understanding
that
there
was
a
survey
made
about
in
the
community
by
tosa
to
understand
if
there
was
an
appetite
or
what
the
community
felt
about
and
mostly
was
positive
and,
however,
there
was
a
a
you
know,
a
group
that
was
not
it
wasn't
as
positive
or
wasn't
opposition.
So
what
were
the
things
that
those
folks
said
that
you
can
take
into
consideration
so
that
we
can
get
more
people
and
support
or
most
of
the
people
in
support?
P
M
I
mean
tosa
was
in
and
all
my
community
consoles
making
presentations
for
several
times.
Even
so
just.
S
P
I
think
I
would
like
it
because
it's
basically
asking
the
taxpayers
that
essentially
own
this
land,
that
you
want,
that
we
want
to
do
something
with
it
and-
and
you
know,
become
a
partner
with
a
service
provider
that
the
service
provider
already
went
and
talked
to
them
right
and
asked
from
their
perspective.
Now
the
taxpayers
are
the
ones
that
through
us
are
going
to
say
if
they
agree
with,
you
know
with
this
right.
P
H
So,
just
from
a
sorry,
mr
chair,
if
it's
okay
from
I'm
trying
to
think
about
from
a
practical
perspective,
we
have
a
hearing
scheduled
on
this
on
the
20th
and
potential
action
on
october
4th.
I
don't
know
if
the
administration
thinks
they
could
get
before
the
community
councils,
at
least
in
that
area
before
that,
so
that
the
council
could
have
that
information
for
their
vote
or
if
we
need
to
delay
that
action.
S
I
would
have
to
look
at
the
schedule
of
the
meetings
for
and
we're
just
thinking
that
the
surrounding
community.
N
I
can
bring
it
up
in
our
council
in
the
sugar
house
community
council
that
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
and
I
think
we
could
all
probably
just
throw
that
in
our
email
blasts
or
like
my
newsletter
could
go
out
and
we
can
put
that
in
there.
So
people
are
at
least
aware
of
the
public
hearing.
A
A
P
O
K
And
council
member,
in
addition,
I
know
the
council
office
communications
team
is
already
developing
a
pretty
extensive
outreach
on
this
and.
H
Okay
and
an
email
blast
to
other
typical
stakeholders
with
a
sort
of
concise
explanation
of
it
and
a
link
to
the
less
concise.
You
know
full
staff
report,
all
the
detail.
If
you
want
to
dig
into
the
detail,
it's
just
that
step
of
having
the
administration
before
the
community
council.
So
maybe
we
can
circle
back
with
you
guys
once
you
check
in
the
calendar
and
then
we
can
circle
back
to
the
council
and
see
if
that's
something
that
you
need
to
hear
before
the
october
4th.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
my
model
I'll
just
make
a
statement.
I
want
this
conversation
to
be
as
beneficial
for
staff
for
tosa
and
for
the
public,
so
I'm
just
going
to
put
my
cards
on
the
table
and
tell
you
where
I'm
at
I
haven't
decided
where
I
will
how
I
feel
about
this
entirely
yeah.
I
think
the
idea
could
be
very
successful.
I
have
a
lot
of
some
reservations,
so
the
public
hearing
is
going
to
be
really
important.
L
L
So,
if
that's
not
possible,
then
that's
not
something
that
we
get
to
analyze,
but
that
would
make
it
really
much
more
helpful
and
then
the
rezone
only
applying
to
the
eight
acres,
not
the
whole
40-acre
site,
would
also
make
it
easier
for
me
to
make
that
decision
right
now
and
allow
the
pilot
project
to
go
forward
and
we
can
test
the
concept
and
have
a
certain
period
of
time.
I
mean
five
years
is
too
little.
L
Maybe
40
years
is
too
long,
maybe
four
years
exactly
right,
it
seems
something
like
15
to
20
years.
We'd
really
know
whether
or
not
it's
financially
stable
and
working.
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
a
great
way
at
that
point
when
when
we
think
it's
reasonable,
for
I
mean
I
think
their
tosa
is
very
optimistic
and
and
they
have
a
lot
of
proven
success
in
other
areas,
so
maybe
that's
justified,
but
2026
feels
really
fast
for
me.
L
K
Members,
sorry,
I
just
so
I'm
clear
are
you
so
you
are
considering
the
least
term
as
sort
of
the
the
hard
date
for
an
evaluation,
but
it
seems
like
there
might
be
some
it.
There
could
still
be.
K
Right
so
there
could
still
be
a
40-year
lease
with
you
know
if
they,
for
example,
if
the
administration
committed
to
evaluations
at
certain
points
before
then.
L
Yeah
and
to
be
clear
absent
of
those
things
I'm
I
still
am
not
sure
like
I
still
may
vote
yes,
I
I
likely
would,
but
it
the
public
hearing
is
going
to
be
really
important
for
me
on
that,
but
with
those
two
changes,
the
reduction
from
the
40
acres
down
to
only
the
eight
acres
for
the
rezone
and
the
reduction
of
the
term
from
40
years
to
something
a
little
bit
shorter
would
move
me
towards
that.
Yes,
a
lot
a
lot
faster,
but
I
am
swayable
still
by
by
all
of
the
factors.
Thank
you.
M
M
At
this
point
I
do
want
to
you
know
we
are
basically
talking
about
a
piece
of
land
that
has
been
a
dump,
for
you
know
four
years
and
it's
not
great
at
the
moment
and
and
I
will
hold
if
this
ends
up
happening,
and
this
console
supports
this
project.
M
I
you
know
and-
and
you
guys
know
this-
I
won't
stop
bugging
everybody
about
it,
so
it
will.
I
will
not
stop
saying
what
is
wrong
with
it,
if,
if
that's
the
case-
and
so
that
is
one-
and
I
also
appreciate
the
concern
about
transparency
on
the
community
councils,
but
I
believe,
having
represented
this
community
council
and
also
participating
in
the
meetings
for
for
a
while,
tulsa
and
also
the
administration,
has
done
an
amazing
work
in
presenting
this
project
and
selling
the
vision.
M
M
M
I
hope
that
my
community
on
the
west
side
participates
and
tell
us
what
what
they
want
and
their
concerns,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
hold
the
whole
process,
two
percent
on
the
community
councils,
because
we
have
done
already
that-
and
it's
done
very
many
many
times
so
that
having
representing
this
area,
I
can
tell
you
that
that
is
the
case,
because
I've
been
in
those
meetings
many
many
times,
so
I
just
wanted
to
leave
that
out
there
as
well.
I.
P
Appreciate
it,
I
think
it
comes
out
of
ptsd
from
other
projects
that
we've
had
in
the
past,
where
you
and
I
weren't
here
and
one
that
you
weren't
here
in
particular.
So
it's
it's
hard
for
a
count.
You
know
for
to
be
accused,
sometimes
by
the
community,
that
we
were
not
transparent
enough,
that
we
were
giving
away
something
that
belongs
to
you,
know
the
the
taxpayers
without
really
asking
them,
and
it
was
done
and
not
in
a
trans
in
a
transparent
way.
P
So
and
also
sometimes,
we
have
developers
that
go
and
talk
to
the
community
council
do
all
of
the
legwork
and
they
come
and
tell
us.
Oh,
the
community
is
fine
with
us
because
we
talked
to
them
because
we
went
to
the
community
council
and
most
people.
There
said
that
they
were
okay,
so
you
should
approve
something
because
they
said
it
was
okay.
So
that's
where
I'm
coming
from,
not
that
not
that
that
hasn't
happened,
but
and
also
we
didn't
punt
this
we
haven't
punted
this.
P
As
far
as
I
know,
I
we
just
barely
received
the
public
benefits
analysis
like
so
I
heard
of
this
project,
maybe
twice
or
three
times
as
you
know
about
this
in
this
meeting,
so
I
don't
feel
like
the
public
is
like
a
hundred
percent
sure
other
than
what
they
hear
in
the
media
of
what's
happening
and
what
we're
we're
giving
away
in
exchange
of.
So
that's
where
I'm
coming
from.
I
think
people
need
to
know
that
it's
happening,
and
we
need
to
explain
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
them.
M
Yeah
and
I
those
concerns
are
legitimate,
but
I
I
know
that
this
has
been
presented
to
the
community
councils
and
I
don't
I
don't
see
in
any
of
the
documents.
I
read
that
they
are
saying
that
the
community
councils
are
supporting
it.
They
haven't
said
that
actually
they
are
split
as
they
stand
at
the
moment
so
and
I
think
there
is
support-
and
you
know
in
each
community,
council
and
people
against
in
each
community
council.
M
That's
what
the
process
of
that
we
have
right
now
is
for
the
community
to
tell
us
what
they
want
and
that's
what
the
hearing
is
for,
and
this
is
the
process
has
already
been
created,
and
it's
not
it's
not
a
secret
and
I'm
happy
to
do
an
extra
communication
and
go
to
talk
to
all
the
community
councils
again
and
tell
them
that
this
is
happening
and
to
tell
us
what
they
want.
But
I
been
in
those
meetings.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
everybody
else.
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
will.
This
will
be
open
for
the
public
to
make
comments
and
the
city
council.
We
still
have
the
ability
to
say
we're
going
to
put
a
hold
on
this,
so
we
can
think
about
it.
We
don't
have
to
make
the
decision
on
whatever
october
date.
That
is,
we
can
say,
hey.
We
still
feel
like.
A
We
need
to
find
some
more
information,
so
it's
not
cut
and
dry
that
on
october,
whatever
date
it's
a
yes
or
no,
we
could
say
pause,
so
we
still
have
that
ability
and
we
still
have
that
responsibility
to
to
make
that
decision.
So
appreciate
the
briefing,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
discussion
we
had
tonight.
This
was
wonderful
and
I
look
forward
for
future
discussions.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
S
A
Budget
amendment
number
one
for
fiscal
year:
2022-23
follow-up
at
the
table,
allison's
leaving
I'm
leaving
ben-
is
here,
and
I
don't
know
if
mary
beth
is
just
going
to
join
us
on
jordan,
vike
tammy's,
we'll
give
it
to
ben
first
go
ahead.
Ben.
D
D
This
was
item
a4,
the
funding
for
the
general
obligation,
bond,
public
education
and
outreach
and
d2
1.2
million
dollars
for
building
security.
All
of
the
other
items
remain
open.
D
As
a
reminder,
we
did
get
an
update
since
the
last
briefing
from
the
state
confirming
the
award
amount
for
the
homeless,
shelter
cities
mitigation
grant.
The
city
is
receiving
almost
2.75
million
dollars
in
one-time
funding.
The
city
will
have
to
reapply
each
year
for
it.
This
will
be
used
for
13
new
full-time
employees,
12
of
which
are
police
officers,
who
would
be
part
of
new
squads
focused
on
the
two
homeless
resource
centers
and
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
D
D
D
However,
the
program
guidelines
for
the
edlf
do
not
allow
forgivable
loans
or
grants,
which
is
what
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
proposed
to
be
used
for.
So
this
item
will
transfer
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
one
time
to
economic
development,
who
would
be
administering
the
grant
program
and
we
received
a
transmittal
last
friday.
I
think
it's
been
updated
in
packets
as
well,
showing
the
revised
guidelines
for
how
this
hundred
thousand
dollars
would
be
used.
Based
on
your
discussion
and
request
two
weeks
ago.
D
As
a
reminder,
there
are
two
two
amounts:
it's
five
thousand
dollars
up
to:
five
thousand
dollars
for
outdoor
dining
or
outdoor
retailing,
or
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
costs
incurred,
related
to
an
open
streets
event
and
the
funding
would
be
dispersed
in
two
rounds.
A
A
A
H
And
council
members,
this
is
just
incorporating
the
edits.
You
guys
asked
to
make
the
last
time
the
program
was
presented.
We
didn't
know
if
it
needed
a
full
briefing,
because
the
edits
basically
comported
exactly
with
what
you
guys
asked
for.
So
you
have
any
questions
or
are
you
ready
to
adopt
later.
A
So
on
the
outdoor
business
activity
grant
any
have
anybody
have
any
questions
about
the
written
briefing
or
what
we've
discussed
in
the
past
all
righty.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
on
to
item
number
10,
the
board
appointment,
the
parks,
natural
land,
urban,
forestry
and
trails,
better
known
as
the
peanut
advisory
board
and
with
us
today
we
have
meredith
finale.
She
is
we'll
be
coming
online
here
in
a
second
for
this
board
appointment.
A
We
can
hear
you,
I
can't
see
you
yet,
but
we'll
probably
get
you
on
the
screen
here
in
a
second
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
to
join
the
peanut
advisory
board.
Give
us
a
little,
maybe
a
little
history,
and
your
reasons
for
wanting
to
be
on
the
board.
J
Well,
thank
you,
as
you
guys
all
have
heard,
my
name
is
meredith.
My
full
name
is
meredith
benally.
I
am
of
navajo
descent.
Well,
actually,
my
lineage
starts
with
hopi
descent
and
through
my
father,
I've
had
relationships
and
tied
to
the
navajo
tribe.
J
I
lived
in
utah.
My
whole
life
never
lived
anywhere,
so
I'm
very
proud
of
that.
A
L
I
don't
have
a
question,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
don't
know
why
I
didn't
think
about
this
before,
but
having
somebody
particularly
for
the
peanut
board
that
represents
native
communities.
Is
such
a
perfect
fit.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
willing
to
to
serve
the
city.
A
L
A
Yes,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this,
it's
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity.
It's
wonderful
for
us
to
expand
our
horizons
here,
so
you'll
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda.
You
need
not
be
present
to
win,
but
you're,
always
more
than
welcome
to
join
our
formal
meeting
starting
at
seven
o'clock.
So
thank
you
very
much
meredith
and
you
have
a
wonderful
evening.
A
A
Welcome
tonight
and
thank
you
for
wanting
to
participate
on
the
civilian
review
board.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
the
board.
G
Sure
my
name
is
kelby
gopal.
I
really
appreciate
your
consideration
for
my
position
on
this
board.
I
live
in
glendale,
so
I'm
from
district
2..
My
background
is
in
public
policy
and
public
health.
I've
worked
previously
as
a
consultant.
I
currently
work
for
an
organization,
that's
focused
locally
on
clean
air
and
transportation.
G
M
No
questions,
but
thank
you
for
your
patience
on
this.
I
know
it
took
a
little
while
and
but
thank
you
for
for
representing
the
district,
but
also
the
city
as
a
whole.
Thank
you.
A
Let's
thank
you
across
the
board
and,
as
I
told
meredith
you'll,
be
on
tonight's
consent
agenda
for
our
seven
o'clock,
formal
meeting
you
can
join
us
if
you
would
like,
but
you
need
not
be
there
tonight,
so
have
a
wonderful
evening
and
look
forward
to
your
work.
Thank
you.
A
A
Finley
good
evening
stephanie
and
welcome
to
the
city,
council,
formal
or
work
session,
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
to
be
on
the
police.
Civilian
review
board
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you
want
to
be
on
the
board.
C
Thanks
so
much
for
having
me
tonight,
I
I'm
from
alaska.
Actually
I
moved
to
utah
10
years
ago
and
right,
I'm
currently
a
full-time
grad
student,
and
before
that
I
worked
in
non-profit
for
about
six
or
seven
years
and
similar
to
my
hopefully
future
co
board
member
kelby.
I
care
about
my
community
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
representing
my
neighborhood
in
this
way
with
the
city.
So
pretty
simple.
A
Thank
you,
stephanie.
Any
questions
or
comments
from
the
council
see
none
very
short
interview
there.
So
you
also
will
be
on
tonight's
formal
consent
agenda
at
seven
o'clock.
You
need
to
be
present
to
win,
but
you
can
always
you're
you're
welcome
to
join
us
tonight,
but
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
for
wanting
to
serve
on
the
civilian
review
board.
A
A
And
counselors
scratching
item
number
13,
as
the
interview
is
not
available
for
the
interview
item
number
14
standing
items
report
the
chair
vice
chair
erin,
I.
H
Filling
in
here
for
cindy,
you
have
a
couple
of
changes
to
that
that
we'll
need
to
make
to
your
november
calendar
of
meetings.
It
relates
to
the
fact
that
when
we
set
the
calendar
for
the
year,
we
did
not
anticipate
a
geo
bond
election
and
typically
you
try
not
to
meet
on
an
election
day
night,
because
you
know
people
may
need
to
go
vote.
H
So
what
what
we
would
do
is
eliminate
the
meeting
on
november
9th,
which
is
election
or
sorry
november,
8th,
which
is
election
day
and
add
a
meeting
on
november
22nd,
so
that
you
can
convene
as
the
board
of
canvassers,
and
we
confirmed
you
can
join
that
meeting
electronically
to
make
that
vote,
and
it
just
needs
to
be
a
majority
present.
So
we
don't
need
to
have
all
seven
physically
here.
So
that's
helpful,
so
we'll
update
the
staff
calendar
with
that
information,
they'll
send
out
the
sort
of
updated
meeting
appointments
and
we'll.
H
So
the
board
of
canvassers,
so
the
county
does
not
guarantee
the
information
to
us
until
six
o'clock
that
night.
So
there
have
been
times
where
I
I
don't
know
that
it'll
be
this
way,
but
there
have
been
times
where
it
has
taken
them
until
three
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
that
two
weeks
after
to
get
us
the
final
information.
And
so
I
guess
our
staff
recommendation
would
probably
be
to
stick
with
your
evening.
Six
or
seven
o'clock
in.
A
A
L
H
Think,
because,
recognizing
that
we
can't
necessarily
count
on
your
attendance
if
the
if
a
majority
of
the
council
is
available
to
have
a
work
session
that
day,
we
could
certainly
have
one.
M
A
H
H
I
was
gonna
say
we'll
be
overdosing
on
that
that
week,
okay,
so
maybe
tbd
on
whether
or
not
there
will
be
a
work
session.
Maybe
we
can
determine
it
based
on
what
items
need
to
be
discussed
if
there's
a
you're
going
to
be
out
of
the
country?
Okay,
I
mean
it's
helpful
to
know
kind
of
that
way.
We
can
plan
okay.
H
N
H
Okay,
yes,
so
that
helps
a
little
bit
at
least
yeah
for
sure.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
a
travel
request.
Council
member
petro
echler
has
let
us
know
that
there
is
a
inland
port
board
meeting
in
cedar
city
on
october
12th
and
is
wondering-
and
the
chair
agrees-
if
it's
in
salt
lake
city's
interest
for
her
to
participate
in
person,
so
the
city
would
cover
travel
expenses
to
that
meeting,
which
is
a
city
related
everybody's,
good,
okay,
everyone's
good
all
right,
I
think
that's
it.
A
Q
Q
T
T
Salt
lake
city
has
begun
installing
20
miles
per
hour.
Speed
limit
signs
throughout
the
city
marking
the
final
step
of
implementing
a
recently
adopted
ordinance
that
lowers
the
speed
limit
from
25
miles
per
hour
on
local
streets.
The
ordinance
impacts,
approximately
420
miles
or
70
percent
of
the
city's
public
streets.
T
Replacing
the
approximately
575
signs
from
25
miles
per
hour
to
20
miles
per
hour
will
continue
into
august
in
order
to
increase
safety
on
city
streets,
while
lowering
the
speed
limit
is
an
important
move.
City
officials
recognize
that
this
is
only
the
first
step
towards
safer
livable
streets
as
part
of
her
commitment
to
improving
salt
lake
city's
air
quality.
Mayor
mendenhall
convened
an
indoor
air
quality
summit
on
tuesday
morning.
The
event
was
attended
by
air
quality
practitioners
from
the
state.
T
The
county
facility
managers
and
non-profits
focused
on
sharing
recent
research
and
best
practices
about
indoor
air
quality
improvements.
Research
has
begun
to
better
inform
the
understanding
of
both
how
and
to
what
extent
outdoor
air
with
higher
levels
of
particulate
pollution,
infiltrates
indoor
spaces,
during
both
the
winter
and
the
summer
months
to
learn
more
visit,
slcgreen.com.
T
Children
in
salt
lake
city's
west
point
neighborhood
have
a
brand
new
place
to
play
as
a
community
and
kid-designed
playground
was
installed
at
miami
park.
The
months-long
collaboration
between
salt
lake
city,
the
pure
good
foundation
and
kaboom
culminated
with
more
than
100
volunteers.
Installing
the
new
play
space
which
will
offer
west
point
neighborhood
children
a
high
quality
safe
place
to
play
that
is
close
to
where
they
live.
T
The
new
playground
was
a
collaborative
effort
by
community
members,
including
kids,
who
presented
creative
ideas
for
their
dream
playground
during
a
design
day
in
may.
The
playground
is
inspired
by
those
drawings
and
will
provide
hundreds
of
kids
and
their
families
with
a
place
to
get
active,
build
social
bonds
and
gather
as
a
community.
T
You
can
visit
the
park
at
1571.
North
miami,
road
media
outlets
and
city
staff
were
invited
to
an
exclusive
tour
of
the
slc
airport's
central
tunnel,
currently
about
halfway
done
with
construction
phase.
Two
of
the
new
slc
encompasses
the
construction
of
the
central
tunnel,
as
well
as
the
build
out
of
concourse
a
to
the
east.
The
central
tunnel
will
connect
concourses
a
and
b
and
is
being
built
to
accommodate
six
moving
walkways
a
baggage
transport
as
well
as
a
passenger
train.
T
The
train
will
be
added
later
following
the
construction
of
concourse
c
as
patrons
exit
the
tunnel
at
concourse
b.
They
will
see
the
reinstalled
world
map
from
slc's
former
airport
terminal
1,
along
with
the
canyon
2.0,
as
well
as
northern
light,
in
collaboration
with
the
airport
artist,
gordon
huether,
designed
the
river
tunnel,
an
immersive
experience
designed
to
create
a
sense
of
walking
on
the
floor
of
a
river
with
light
and
natural
currents
overhead.
C
T
Starting
mid-august,
our
slc
streets
team
will
start
resurfacing
main
street
from
700
south
to
2100
south.
We
are
using
this
opportunity
of
a
blank
slate
street
to
redesign
our
striping.
This
new
striping
design,
backed
by
our
life
on
state
bikeways
study,
will
provide
one
lane
of
traffic
in
each
direction
with
a
center
turning
lane.
We
are
also
widening
bike
lanes
and
improving
bike
lane
continuity
at
intersections.
T
You
may
have
noticed
crews
paving
the
west
side
of
300
west
between
900,
south
and
1300
south.
We
are
excited
to
see
such
progress
and
see
people
utilizing
the
two-way
bike
path
on
300
west.
We
are
now
moving
over
to
work
on
the
east
side
of
the
project,
which
includes
sidewalk,
curb
gutter
and
drive
approach
improvements
as
well
as
road
reconstruction.
T
Q
C
C
It's
focused
on
community
revitalization,
through
environmental
remediation,
community,
empowerment
and
safety
and
beautification
improvements.
So
people
apply
for
the
mini
grant
here
in
the
community,
we
award
them
and
they
embark
on
their
individual
service
projects
and
development
projects.
Some
projects
that
we're
seeing
coming
through
are
things
such
as
a
river
cleanup
here
on
the
jordan
river,
and
then
we
have
community
gardens.