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A
So
if
we
were
to
cut
it,
it
appears
from
the
notes
in
our
budget
that
we
would
only
be
about
a
51
000
savings
since
in
the
notes
you
say,
we're
already
spending
eighty
thousand
dollars
a
year
on
these
coordinations.
So
if
we
were
to
cut
it,
it
wouldn't
be
the
full
131
that
we
would
be
cutting.
It
looks
like
it
would
be,
51
750,
which
might
you
still
might
want
to
add
to
it,
but
it
felt
like
a
clarification
worth
making.
B
C
A
B
That
may
be
Mary
Beth,
Or
Kira
or
someone
to
to
clarify
does
that
80
000
come
out
of
this
budget
or
if
we
were
to
cut
this
building
administrator.
Do
we
have
to
find
80
000
to
put
back
in
in
order
to
do
the
base
level
of
service
that
we're
currently
doing?
Yes?
So
so
so,
councilman
Petro's
correct?
We
have
taken
eighty
thousand
dollars.
I
put
130
back
in
So.
Taking
this
away
would
be
a
net
Savings
of
about
51.
A
D
Now
go
on
to
that
then
the
the
question
about
the
environmental
engineer
you
you
touched
on
on
a
little
bit
or
more
on
that.
You
said
if
I
remember
right,
you
mentioned
some
big
projects
to
catch
some
gas.
You
know
and
these
projects
haven't
been
funded.
Is
that
correct
this
potential
projects
that
this
engineer
will
be
working
on
or
have
they
correct.
C
E
A
Okay,
okay,
first
I
want
to
voice
incredible
support
for
the
Safety
and
Security
manager.
We've
kind
of
been
doing
this
ad
hoc,
even
causing
consternation
among
ourselves
what
the
security
priorities
should
be
and
how
to
allocate
money
towards
them,
and
we
are
not
keeping
Pace
with
the
threats
and
the
concerns
that
I
have
coming
into
work
every
day.
So
I
really
want
to
voice
support
for
that
position.
A
The
second
thing
is
on
The
Apprentice.
We
have
this
phrase
in
there
that
says
once
they're.
Once
they're
done
with
this
position,
they'll
be
they'll,
be
able
to
do
anything.
Do
we
have
first
of
all
any
projections
for
how
long
that
will
take?
Will
they
be
employed
with
us
four
years
for
that
to
happen,
and
then,
once
that
happens,
do
we
have
any
ways
to
incentivize
them?
Staying
with
us,
I
love
my
community,
but
I
really
don't
feel
like
it's.
C
Absolutely
yeah
so
the
first
question:
how
long
will
it
take
to
reach
that
level
of
Mastery?
So
there
are?
We
will
rely
on
on
the
state
path
to
certification,
the
the
registered
apprenticeships
with
the
state
which
could
take
anywhere
from
two
to
four
years,
depending
on
the
trade,
but
once
they
reach
that
level
again
they
can.
C
But
the
idea
is
is
build
that
that,
from
from
from
scratch
right,
we
are
removing
as
many
areas
as
possible
and
so
with
the
development
of
this.
This
individual,
not
just
on
the
technical
side
but
also
on
on
you,
know,
incentivizing
to
stay
with
the
city
as
a
career
path
for
them
as
a
long-term
career
path.
It's
it's
part
of
a
you
know.
We
would
like
to
ensure
that
they,
like
the
city
and
they
stay
with
us
and.
A
A
So
it
won't
be
like
a
cohort
of
four
every
year.
It's
just
core
at
any
given
time
right,
I
would
be
interested
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
legislative
intent
or
what
it
is
in
looking
at
ways
to
incentivize
them,
saying
that
maybe
our
creative
and
outside
budget
maybe
like
well
I,
guess
it's
not
outside
of
budget
but,
like
maybe
say
they
can
start
at
a
more
advanced
pay
grade
or
something
if
they
stay
with.
A
F
C
Is
a
little
bit
of
overlap
and
I'm
sure
they're
going
to
be
collaborating
for
this
building?
Specifically,
they
Safety
and
Security
director
is
a
is
an
internal
service
for
all
the
buildings
in
the
city,
whereas
the
building
administrator
is
just
okay.
Just
this,
this
building
special
events.
Again,
we
have
a
list
space.
In
the
first
floor,
we
have
special
reservations
for
this
building
for
special
events
as
well.
So
all
of
that
coordination,
that's
a
building
administrator,
just
localized,
okay,.
G
Counselor
Dugan
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
going
right
back
to
the
mill
and
overlay
750
000
for
the
the
equipment
is
on
the
cap.
Is
that
equipment
working
two
shifts
and
if
you
had
100
1.5
million
dollars
to
buy
additional
equipment,
would
you
be
able
to?
You
know,
use
that
equipment
on
two
different
shifts,
and
you
know
24
hours
a
day
over
those
five
months
that
we
have
a
season
to
do.
This
is
that.
C
C
B
So
I
mean
I
I
know
we
keep
talking
about
this
one
thing,
but
I
do
think
this
is
a
good
program.
I'm
excited
that
you're
doing
it
I'm
interested
in
the.
What
did
you
say
slightly
deeper,
yes,
scrape
and
fill?
That's,
not
a
mill.
I,
don't
know
what
that
means.
But
I
mentioned
those
things,
because
I
do
think.
B
My
ultimate
goal
is
that
we
are
reconstructing
all
of
our
streets
to
be
more
complete
streets
and
to
be
safer
and
all
of
those
things,
but
I
think
that
we're
going.
That
is
a
program
that
we
need
to
do
that
takes
more
time.
We
need
Transportation
help
design
that
program.
We
need
there's
like
Community
input
and
all
sorts
of
things
that
need
to
happen
so
the
longer
we
can
keep
our
the
less.
We
can
spend
to
keep
our
current
streets
lasting
a
little
bit
longer.
B
What
I
don't
want
to
do
is
reconstruct
a
street
and
have
it
look
the
same
as
it
currently
does,
and
not
have
safe
bike
lanes
and
and
pedestrian
paths,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
it's
good
for
us
to
be
able
to
keep
sort
of
putting
Band-Aids
on
our
streets
until
we
have
time
to
completely
reconstruct
the
them
in
meaning
completely
better
Landscaping.
All
of
those
things
so
so
appreciate
that
we're
looking
at
at
that.
D
On
on
the
streets
that
graph
us
on
the
overall
condition,
you
know
I'm
I'm
sure
that
there
is
not
enough
manpower
or
workloading
hours.
You
know
to
to
fix
all
this,
but
I'm
sure
that
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
more
about
what
your
department
is
doing
to
work
on
those
poor,
Bay,
poor
and
serious
roads
that
don't
involve
the
reconstructing
it.
But,
like
you
know,
you
know,
do
we
need
more?
Do
we
need
more
staff
to
go?
Fill
them
fill
potholes.
D
Do
we
need?
What
do
you
need
from
us?
Because
it
really
is
such
a
pressing
issue
right
now
and
we're
getting
flooded
with
comments
about
this
I
mean
at
least
I
am,
and
you
know,
every
time
I
go
to
a
community
council
every
time,
I
go
to
a
community
event
and
receiving
some
phone
calls
and
emails
about
a
condition
of
our
routes
and
I.
I
would
like
to
know
what
I'm
telling
them
I
wanted
to
know
what
the
administration
is
doing
to
address
the
issue.
B
This
may
be
more
question
for
transportation
actually,
but
I
I'm
wondering
if
some
of
those
ones
that
we
we
just
reduce
the
width
of
the
street.
Will
that
mean
that
we
have?
We
can
get
further
more
neighborhoods
done
with
the
same
Lane
Miles,
because
we're
not
repaving
the
entire
enormous
right-of-way
that
we
don't
need,
or
just
put
some
planters
in
or
put
those
concrete
things
that
John
was
talking
about,
but
but
a
green
Loop,
a
green
Loop.
B
C
Right
and
and
again
that
really
there
is
always
an
opportunity
when,
when
we
do
surface
treatments
and
and
we
coordinate
closely
with
Transportation
when
there
is
a
chip
seal,
which
is
a
great
opportunity
to
re-stripe
the
road
and
and
Implement,
some
of
those
complete
streets
elements
right-
the
soft
ones,
not
The
Hardscape,
but
there
is
always
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Even
with
this
Mill
and
overlay
program
there
is,
there
is
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
and
this
we
we
are
not
limited
to
to
what
we
are
proposing
here.
C
Cip
includes
also
additional
funding
for
reconstruction
of
Roads.
So
in
in
a
little
bit
to
answer
your
question:
councilmember
Point,
we
are
first,
we
are
reaching
the
end
of
of
this
bond
with
one
of
the
biggest
two
of
the
biggest
projects
in
the
city,
200,
South
and
2100
South
right,
and
that
presents
an
opportunity
to
look
at
what
is
next
and
I
would
like
to
leave
that
conversation
for
another
opportunity.
C
Perfect,
as
you
can
see
in
this
chart,
as
of
October
2021,
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
our
roads
are
in
terms
of
condition.
So
the
planning
will
incorporate
this
latest
assessment.
Its
latest
survey
to
to
plan
the
investment
that
the
city
will
put
towards
improving
the
condition
of
the
road
that,
in
some
cases
is
reconstruction
and,
in
some
cases
is,
is
a
different
type
of
maintenance.
G
A
I
Would
just
like
to
add
that
some
of
the
maintenance
we
do
we
do
to
all
roads
like
potholes,
no
matter
the
condition
of
the
road.
If
there's
a
pothole,
we
repair
it.
So
some
of
the
maintenance
we're
doing
isn't
dependent
on
if
it's
fair
or
failed,
we're,
not
all
maintenance,
but
we
are
addressing
maintenance
on
all
the
roads
as
we're
able
and.
B
I
hope
that
at
least
for
myself,
I
I
hope
it
doesn't
sound
like
we're,
saying
you're
not
doing
your
job,
because
you
are
doing
your
job
very
well.
It's
just
something
that
also
your
job
is
incredibly
important
in
our
constituents
care
very,
very
much
about
what
you
do.
So
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
and
please
continue
to
bring
us
ideas
like
Mill
and
Phil,
for
how
we
can
serve
the
community
better
on
that
I
I!
Think
what
what
I'm
hearing
and
I
think?
B
J
J
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
Enterprise
fund
and
that
it
does
receive
an
annual
subsidy
from
the
general
fund.
It
has
for
a
couple
of
years,
that's
detailed
in
the
non-departmental
budget
that
subsidy
is
a
little
bit
less
this
year
than
it
was
in
the
previous
fiscal
years.
So
that's
important
to
note.
J
Also
I
wanted
to
make
a
typo
correction
on
my
staff
report.
I
said
it
would
be
increasing
by
635
million
dollars
for
fiscal
year
2024,
which
is
not
true.
It's
increasing
the
operational
budget
is
increasing
by
635
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
of
10.8
million
and
34.2
full-time
ftes.
That
does
not
include
7.1
million
dollars
in
capital
projects
which
are
funded
with
a
separate
two
dollar
per
nine
whole
round
CIP
fee.
J
That's
dead
catered
to
capital
projects
in
the
Gulf
fund,
and
that
was
a
fee
established
by
the
city
a
couple
of
years
ago
to
help
the
gulf
fund
catch
up
on
some
of
their
needed
deferred
capital
projects.
Those
specific
projects
can
be
found
on
page
six
of
the
staff
report
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
these
guys
great.
K
K
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
restate
this.
This
is
something
that
We've
really
tried
to
focus
on
as
a
division
for
the
last
the
last
four
years,
but
our
our
kind
of
four
areas
of
focus
one
being
to
grow
the
game
so
that
it
continues
to
bring
people
in
and
that
we
can
have
a
a
healthy
player
base
that
continues
to
support
this
activity.
K
K
K
One
thing
that
we
look
at
and
I
always
make
a
point
to
to
present
here,
as
part
of
our
presentation
is,
is
our
our
fiscal
year
tracking
of
of
golf
rounds.
These
rounds
are
what
we
refer
to
as
nine
hole
equivalent
rounds.
So
if
somebody
plays
a
nine
Hole
Round
that
counts
as
one
if
somebody
plays
18
holes
that
counts
as
two
and
whatnot.
So
this
lines
up
with
our
within
our
budget,
and
so
this
is
a
slide
that
many
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with.
K
So
you
can
see
in
fiscal
year
22
we
had
441
000
rounds.
These
would
be
nine
hole
equivalent
rounds.
As
you
can
see,
those
are
those
are
more
rounds
than
we've
done
in
the
last
10
years,
even
back
when
we
had
nine
golf
courses,
so
it
shows
you
that
you
know,
we've
definitely
had
an
increase
over
the
last
two
to
three
years
with
the
next
slide.
I
think
gives
you
a
better
picture
of
what
actually
is
happening
this
this
is
where
I
track
rounds
on
an
annual
basis,
so
from
a
from
a
golf
season.
K
So
we
would
typically
raise
our
fees
within
a
calendar
year
rather
than
within
the
fiscal
year
and
I
track
these
as
a
start
rather
than
I.
Don't
need
to
go
into
all
this,
but
it's
so
sometimes
whenever
somebody
shows
up
to
play
a
round
of
golf
they're
counted
as
one.
So
it
gives
me
an
idea.
I
can
compare
a
nine
hole
course
to
an
18-hole
course,
but
you
can
look
at
the
last
five
years.
The
increase
that
we've
had
in
not
only
total
starts,
but
there's
a
there's
a
metric
here.
K
That
gives
you
a
little
bit
more,
a
better
understanding
of
what
our
capacity
is.
So
capacity
is
kind
of,
like
our
inventory,
on
a
golf
course
and
inventory
changes
on
a
daily
basis,
so
you
have
sunrise
and
sunset
that
changes
daily.
So
the
the
number
amount,
the
amount
of
play
that
we
get
during
any
given
day
changes
so
I
needed
to
have
something
that
I
can
look
at
that
I'm
able
to
compare
one
year
to
the
next
and
and
I
have
some
weather-based
data
that
I
use
to
determine
a
playable
day.
K
So
this
playable
day
row
that
you're
looking
at
here
gives
you
an
idea
of
of
you
know
what
weather
did
to
to
our
inventory.
So
in
2022,
you'll
see
two
208
playable
days
and
that's
as
low
as
I've
ever
seen
as
far
as
I'm
able
to
track
this
with
the
weather
data
that
I
have
so
what
impact
did
that
to
have
so
few
day.
Playable
days
we
had
a
very
hot
summer.
It
was
a
record
hot
summer.
K
K
So
I
think
this
is
what
excites
me
more
than
anything
else,
because
it
demonstrates
what
the
market
demand
is
and,
and
it
shows
that
we're
moving
in
a
good
direction.
It
helps
to
inform
us
on
our
pricing
and-
and
it
goes
into
our
Revenue.
So
if
you
can
see
on
this
chart
again
the
total
revenue
is
it
tracks
out.
In
2022,
we
had
our
highest
revenue
producing
year
that
we've
ever
had
at
just
over
10
million
dollars.
K
So
if
you
look
at
what
does
that,
Revenue
per
start
come
out
to
be
in
2022
that
was
32
dollars
and
12
cents
and
compare
that
to
where
we
were
in
2017.
You
can
see
that.
That's!
That's
a
lot
healthier
than
we
were
in
previous
years,
so
I
I,
hope
you
know
giving
you
this
additional
information
gives
you
an
appreciation
for
kind
of.
What's
what's
been
happening
over
the
last
couple
of
years
at
our
golf
courses
from
a
demand
standpoint.
K
So,
needless
to
say,
we're
very
busy
this
year
is
is
a
new
challenge
for
us.
We've
had
a
very
late
start
because
of
the
the
the
late
winter
and
the
the
all
the
spring
storms
that
we've
had.
In
fact,
we
only
we
opened
our
last
course
this
past
weekend
at
Mountain
Dell,
the
canyon
course.
The
lake
course
has
only
been
open
for
a
couple
weeks.
K
K
One
of
the
obvious
challenges
that
we've
been
dealing
with
is
is
water
and
I,
probably
get
more
questions
about
water
than
anything
else
and
obviously
being
in
a
drought
situation.
It's
really
impacted
the
what
we
charge
and
and
the
product
that
we
provide
to
the
public
obviously
needs
water,
but
we
still
want
it
to
be
responsible
and-
and
this
picture
here
was
taken
last
summer
and
it's
it's
indicative
of
what
our
other
courses
would
have
looked
like
in
the
summer.
K
We
as
part
of
this,
because
the
city
was
in
phase
two
of
its
drought
plan,
we
dialed
back
a
significant
amount
of
our
water
use,
so
you
can
see
in
this
picture
out
of
play
areas
driving
ranges,
transition
areas
did
not
receive
irrigation
at
all
and
which
allowed
us
to
receive
some
significant
savings
over
this
last
year.
Next
slide,
please.
K
K
A
meter
may
not
be
reading
correctly
or
whatnot,
but
generally,
this
shows
the
the
trend
of
our
use
over
the
last
five
years:
fiscal
year
22
when
you
compare
it
to
where
we
were
in
fiscal
year,
21,
which
we
were
coming
off
a
very
another
dry
summer,
where
we
did
exceed
our
our
water
budget.
That
year
we
dialed
back
quite
a
bit
last
year.
In
fact,
fiscal
year
22
reflects
a
37
and
a
half
percent
reduction
in
water
use,
so
that
was
significant.
K
This
is
a
summary
of
our
of
our
fiscal
year.
24
request
and
bottom
line
here
is
we're
we're
asking
for
for
a
half
of
an
FTE
public
lands
during
their
presentation
mentioned
that
we
would
be
filling
in
the
other
half
of
that
description
and
I'll
I'll
be
getting
into
that
in
one
of
our
budget
insights.
K
This
is
a
just
a
breakdown
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
our
our
operational
expenses
go,
our
our
biggest
expense
being
personal
services.
The
cost
of
our
our
labor
being
48
of
our
budget
24
of
the
budget
is
for
charges
and
services.
That's
any
number
of
things.
Interdepartmental
charges
that
we
receive
from
the
city
and
water
represents
nine
percent
of
our
of
our
overall
operational
expense.
K
K
So
there
are
five
insights
for
our
for
our
budget
that
we're
focusing
in
on
number
one
is
our
increases
in
revenue
and
this.
This
outlines
the
areas
that
we're
projecting
to
have
Revenue
increases
for
fiscal
year,
24
totaling,
1.1
million
dollars
broken
down
between
green
fees,
driving
range
fees,
golf
cart,
rental
fees,
past
sales
concessions
and
retail
sales.
So
these
are
our
main
Revenue
producing
areas
we
have
a
just.
A
couple
of
fee
increases
that
we've
already
implemented
this.
To
start
this
season
would
be
golf
cart,
rental
fees.
K
And
our
retail
sales
continue
to
do
strong.
The
previous
two
years
have
been
difficult
because
of
supply
chain
issues
in
the
Gulf
retail
market.
So
it's
been
difficult
for
us
to
have
to
be
able
to
have
enough
retail
items
within
our
shops,
but
we've
been
able
to
catch
up
this
past
year
and
and
we
hope
to
have
a
good
year
based
upon
our
continued
growth
in
in
demand
next
slide.
Please.
K
This
is
Insight
number
two,
which
has
to
do
with
our
request
for
a
half
of
an
FTE.
It's
a
shared
position
within
public
lands,
as
a
senior
warehouse
warehouse
operator
position,
a
pay
grade
15,
and
what
this
position
is,
why
we're
covering
half
the
cost
of
it
is
being
part
of
the
Department
of
in
public
lands.
K
This
insight
has
to
do
with
a
seasonal
wage
increase.
We
are
beginning
in
July,
1,
we'll
be
moving.
All
of
our
golf,
our
our
sorry,
our
beginning
wage
for
golf
staff
from
13.15
to
15.
This
186
thousand
dollar
impact
will
be
covered
by
the
golf
fee
in
previous
years
that
has
that
increased
when
we've
had
a
cost
of
living
increase
or
a
living
wage
increase.
Sorry
that
has
been
funded
partially
through
the
general
fund.
This
this
increase
will
be
funded
entirely
through
the
gulf
fund.
K
This
details,
some
inflation
impacts
that
we're
projecting
as
part
of
this
budget
as
part
of
our
some
of
our
contractual
arrangements
as
well.
So,
for
instance,
in
water
Public
Utilities
has
has
an
18
rate
increase
which
would
amount
to
138
000
increase
storm
water
is
up
ten
percent
Power.
It's
up.
Sixteen
thousand
dollars:
fuel
costs,
21,
570
and
other
equipment
supplies
4462.
K
This
is
a
project
to
try
to
level
out
all
of
our
our
hitting
tea
areas
on
our
courses,
We've
prioritized
those
and
and
probably
do
about
anywhere
from
six
to
eight
per
course
per
year.
That's
that's
also
over
the
course
of
four
years
we
should
be
able
to
hit
all
of
them.
That's
probably
the
biggest
thing
that
customers
complain
about
is
an
unlevel
hitting
surface
when
they
tee
off.
K
The
next
item
would
be
the
another
thing
that
we
get
complaints
about
are
the
condition
of
our
cart
paths
that
the
carts
are
on
most
of
what
we
have
need
to
be
resurfaced.
So
this
is
more
of
a
maintenance
than
new
construction,
and
so
we
have
an
amount
for
fiscal
year.
24
525
000.,
the
950
000
that
was
located
in
fiscal
year
23
is
that
we've
not
had
a
contract
finalized
for
that.
Yet
so
that's
going
to
be
moved
into
fiscal
year,
24.
K
K
Okay,
that's
fine,
yeah
I,
see
me
here
and
that's
always
disturbing,
so
to
go
back
to
the
the
driving
range
improvements
at
Glendale
would
be.
It
would
be
a
covered
hitting
area
we're
looking
at
possibly
doing
a
double
decker
hitting
area.
As
you
know,
with
the
increase
in
in
popularity
in
golf
over
the
last
few
years.
Driving
ranges
do
very
well
and
to
be
able
to
continue
those
operations
throughout
the
winter
months
by
having
a
heated
covered
area.
K
K
Fun,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
somewhat
dialed
down
version
of
that
we'll
just
say
that
we
there's
not
live
music
and
and
our
food's
not
quite
to
that
level
Birds.
But
what
it
does
is.
It
provides
again
an
entertaining
environment
where
people
can
go
and
and
hit
balls
and
and
and
do
so
and
even
in
inclement
weather
days
that
we
would
normally
be
closed
and
not
be
able
to
receive
Revenue.
So
our
projected
payback
period
on
this
would
be
five
to
seven
years,
based
on
our
projected
Revenue
wow
and
the
final
one.
K
There
is
the
Rose
Park
irrigation
project
which
we've
been
talking
about
the
last
couple
of
budget
cycles,
and
so
we
we
were
able
to
put
aside
money
in
the
last
budget.
1.8
million
is
a
matching,
is
a
matching
part
of
a
Federal
grant
that
we
had
applied,
for
we
did
not
receive
that
Grant
and
the
project
has
not
started
yet.
So
we
are
moving
the
funds
that
we'd
set
aside
into
fiscal
year,
24,
plus
the
additional
funds
that
we're
putting
in
here
and
taking
from
the
CIP
fund
to
complete
this
project.
K
We
hope
to
have
this
started
by
the
end
of
this
year.
There
is
a
public
utilities
project.
That's
going
on,
that's
planned
on
the
back
nine,
it's
a
sewer
line
project
that
would
intersect
for
the
holes
and
disrupt
what
we're
doing,
and
so
we're
trying
to
time
that
with
that
project
as
well,
so
they
don't
rip
up
what
we
just
put
into
the
ground.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
coming
from
there.
B
Do
we
have
any
scholarship
or
discount
programs
for
Salt
Lake
City
residents
with
limited
incomes?
We
do
know
golf.
We
do
not
I
think
with
the
Investments
That
We're,
showing
here
in
the
Glendale
and
Rose
Park
areas.
It
would
be
great
if
we
can
start
to
to
make
that
more
available
to
some
of
the
residents
that
live
in
that
neighborhood
that
otherwise
couldn't
afford
it.
B
K
L
B
It's
golf
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
debate
about
Golf
and
water
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
To
the
extent
that
we
believe
golf
is
empowering
communities,
it's
it
isn't
available
to
everybody.
It's
a
thing
you
need
to
pay
for.
In
order
to
do,
no
one
has
a
golf
course
in
their
backyard.
Well,
no
one
owns
the
golf
courses
in
their
backyard.
B
A
H
Something
to
say
about
that
we
do
at
least
we
were
invited
to
go
cross-country
skiing
in
the
in
the
winter,
in
January
or
February.
I
can
remember,
Dugan
and
I
went
and
that
group
that
I'm
not
sure
if
we
rent
to
them
or
we
land
the
tuna
group,
they
do
bring
over
a
hundred
kids
from
the
west
side
or
or
of
low
income
of
low-income
families
to
come
and
learn
how
to
cross-country
ski
and
get
them
started.
H
K
Thank
you
and,
and
one
of
our
initiatives,
that's
that
we're
funding
throughout
through
this
budget
as
well.
We
have
identified
15
different
areas
within
our
golf
courses
that
we
do
not
charge.
That
would
be
considered
free
practice
areas,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
improve
moving
these
areas
to
make
them
not
only
more
usable
to
the
two
players
or
people
coming
into
the
game,
but
also
we're
putting
money
aside
to
to
create
some
content
that
we
can
push
out
on
social
media.
K
That
would,
you
know,
show
other
players,
here's
here's
how
you
use
this.
This
is
where
you
go,
and
so
we
think
that's
a
kind
of
fits
within.
You
know
at
least
gives
an
opportunity
that
you
don't
have
to.
You
can
still
go
and
enjoy
the
space
without
having
to
pay
and
that's
our
hope
is
being
able
to
at
least
have
that
coincide
with
people
who
are
paying
as
well.
A
F
G
G
You
know,
that's
a
thousand
dollars
a
month.
It's
like
holy
cow
they're,
not
making
any
money
on
the
consent.
We're
not
making
any
money
on
the
concessions
is.
Are
we
still
fighting
the
finding
concessionaires
who
want
to
take
the
contract
on
liquor
sales,
and
where
are
we
on
that
type
of
I?
Can
I
can
see
that
we
should
be
making
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
not
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
concessions
a
year
and.
K
Right,
in
fact,
we
have
not
made
any
money
on
concessions.
The
last
two
years
right,
the
previous
two
contracted
concessionaires
defaulted
on
on
their
part
of
the
agreement
to
pay
us
their
share
of
the
revenue
or
even
report
it.
So
we
we
have
our
fourth
contracted
concessionary
in
place
this
year.
We're
able
to
get
them
in
place.
This
spring
they're
they're
operating
five
of
our
courses.
We
have
one
other
at
our
sixth
course
they're
contracted.
K
We
received
our
first
payment
last
last
week,
which
was
which
was
very
good
to
see
they've
been
able
to
be
there
the
hours
that
we've
requested.
That
was
one
other
issue
that
we
had
had
before.
Is
the
previous
concessionaires
weren't
there
when
when
we
needed
them
to
to
be
so
so
far
so
good,
and
so
we
we
have
full
contracts
at
all
of
our
courses
with
with
full
beer
licenses
as
as
well.
So
that's
we're
up
and
rolling.
K
Really
I
mean
we
give
them
the
ability
to
open
up
year-round
they
they
elect
to
to
generally
to
only
stay
open
during
the
season
when,
when
the
the
golfers
are
there,
so
we
don't
charge
them
any
rent
or
any
other
fees
if
they,
if
they
wanted
to
stay
open
during
the
off
season,
but
typically
they
they
elect
not
not
to
be
open.
Okay,.
H
K
It's
it's
enough
of
our
minds:
I'll!
Let
Kristen
follow
up,
yeah
government
think
about
it,
but
the
mountain
Dell
Golf
Course,
obviously
is
their
their
biggest
need.
There
is
their
irrigation
system.
The
second
biggest
need
is
a
clubhouse.
We
we
replaced
the
roof.
The
boiler
went
out
last
year
and
we
were
we're
not
actually
able
to
put
a
new
boiler
in
so
we're
having
to
do
some
workarounds
with
some
other
forced
air
heating
Solutions,
which
aren't
ideal
like
say
the
roof.
Can
the
roof
continues
to
leak?
K
The
deck
is
in
disrepair,
there's
a
we
can.
We
continue
to
try
to
do
our
best
to
keep
it
going,
we're
going
to
resurface
the
deck
again,
but
we
don't
have
currently,
as
it
is
right
now,
a
means
to
finance
a
new
a
new
center
up.
There,
we've
discussed
some
other
funding
options,
we're
looking
at
all
of
our
funding
options
right
now,
but
it's
it's
definitely
high
on
the
list,
because
I
do
think.
H
J
I
can
share
a
little
bit
because
we
we
did
specifically
look
at
that
facility.
This
was
like
five
years
ago
when
we
were
first
evaluating
golf's
financial
difficulties
in
the
county,
essentially
subsidized
the
construction
of
that
facility
and
handed
it
over
to
their
golf
fund
free
of
debt,
and
so
it
does
make
money
for
their
golf
fund.
But
it's
because
the
County
elected
to
pay
to
build
the
facility
so
that
it
would
be
equivalent
to
the
general
fund
bonding
to
build
the
facility
paying
the
bonds
on
the
debt
not
having
the
golf
fund
pay.
J
M
Thank
you
so
much
and
Jen
said
just
about
everything
that
I
was
about
to
say,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say
also
that
we
have
on
my
list
of
things
to
do
once
you
all
get
through
your
budget
season,
which
is
busy
enough
as
it
is.
You
know
some
time
that
I
want
to
set
aside
with
you
all
to
talk
about
your
priorities
and
and
goals
around
that
very
thing,
and
we
will
be
exploring
like
Matt
mentioned,
all
funding,
opportunities
and
and
but
I
think.
M
E
K
K
In
fact,
I'm
was
was
very
interested
to
see
what
would
happen
this
year
and
and
last
year
given
given
the
inflationary
impacts
that
I,
think
everybody's
kind
of
feeling
and
experiencing
right
now
and-
and
you
know,
golf
is
a
discretionary
expense,
so
I'm
you
know
thrilled
to
see
where
we're
at
and
if
we're
still
holding
this
number
I'll
feel
very
good
about
it.
But
again,
if
you
look
at
our
our
deferred,
CIP
needs
list,
which
is
27
million
dollars.
K
I,
think
is
what
we
have
in
the
staff
report
that
doesn't
touch
it,
so
we
we
have
to
find
some
other
creative
and
innovative
ways
to
try
to
to
be
able
to
reinvest.
You
know
and
we're
we're
trying
to
hit
our
priority
items
as
we
can
again.
The
lifeblood
of
our
golf
courses
is
water
and
how
we
deliver
it.
K
So
that's
I'm
focused
on
irrigation
systems
right
now,
because
without
that
it
it
doesn't
matter
what
how
even
if
we
have
a
nice
Clubhouse
if
the
if
the
course,
if
we
lose
the
course
because
of
a
lack
of
irrigation,
that's
it
doesn't
work.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
what
our
priority
levels
are,
but
we
can.
K
We
could
obviously
see
the
potential
what
would
happen
if
we
had
a
better
facilities
at
a
golf
course
like
Mountain
Dell,
you
know
not
only
during
the
golf
season
for
other
events,
but
during
during
the
winter,
the
winter
months,
it's
a
fantastic
recreation
area
as
well,
which
is
currently
used.
If
you
go
up
there
in
the
winter
any
day
of
the
week.
That
parking
lot
is
just
as
busy
as
it
is
in
the
summer.
K
We
just
need
to
be
able
to
to
find
the
money
and
the
Partnerships
which
I
do
think.
We
were
open
to
public-private
partnership
opportunities
and
we
continue
to
to
investigate
those
as
best
we
can,
but
so
to
answer
your
question
I.
It
would
be
great
to
set
that
number
above
32
dollars,
but
I'm
I'm
I'll
be
thrilled
if
we're
still
at
32,
I
think
for
another
two
years,
I'll.
J
J
In
fact,
the
whole
Wasatch
Front
has
is
very
saturated,
with
public
courses
that
have
very
reasonable
prices
and
so
I
think
the
Salt
Lake
City
Golf
system
does
a
good
job
of
trying
to
pay
trying
to
set
the
prices
where
people
can
afford
them
and
attain
them,
while
at
the
same
time
trying
to
get
you
know
the
cost
of
actually
maintaining
it,
but
we're
we're
hamstring
a
little
bit,
because
if
we
increase
prices
too
much,
then
people
will
just
go
to
a
county
course
or
you
know
North,
Salt,
Lake
or
whatever.
So.
B
N
Just
quickly,
the
fleet
fund
provides
repairs,
maintenance,
replacement
and
fuel
for
approximately
1600
City
vehicles.
It
also
maintains
about
2
800
pieces
of
equipment
operates,
15
fueling
sites.
Two
car
washes
the
fleet
fund
is
in
and
is
an
internal
service
fund
and
operates
with
money
paid
out
of
other
funds,
including
the
general
general
fund.
The
2024
proposed
budget
is
32.5
million,
which
is
2.1
million
or
6.8
percent
more
than
last
year
and
I
know
that
the
fleet
division
has
a
presentation
and
I'd
like
to
turn
the
time
over
to
Jorge.
I
Hello,
Aston
I'm
Julie
Crookston.
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
we'll
be
talking
about
the
fleet
budget
today
as
represented.
Yes,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
as
well
perfect,
so
this
division
in
total
it
manages
over
4
000
assets
that
includes
the
vehicles
and
equipment
that
cilia
mentioned
and
they're
responsible
for
procuring
those
assets,
as
well
as
maintaining
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
repairs
of
those
assets.
I
I
We
are
also
maintaining
our
same
request
as
last
year
for
funding
our
future.
1.7
million
of
those
funds
will
go
towards
streets
that
will
replace
nine
pieces
of
equipment
and
vehicles,
and
then
four
million
of
that
will
go
towards
Public
Safety,
replacing
55
vehicles
with
some
fire
equipment
added
in
there
as
well,
and
then,
if
we
could
go
to
our
next
slide,
Nancy
being
the
fleet
division
director
will
give
you
an
update
on
our
electrification
of
the
fleet
as
a
whole.
O
So
electrification
is
definitely
important
to
all
of
us
and
last
year,
looking
at
what
we
receive
in
budget
replacement
or
in
vehicle
replacement,
what
we
have
available
to
replace
and
and
what's
available,
technologically,
we
only
figured
we
would
be
going
up
for
vehicles,
but
we
were
able
to
go
up
11
Vehicles
this
last
year
we
have
worked
with
all
of
our
departments.
We
have
complete,
departmental
buy-in
to
go
electric,
we
just
need
the
technology
and
the
availability
to
receive
it.
O
I
do
believe
that
this
is
going
to
change
it
changes
daily
things,
Vehicles
equipment
are
released
just
this
last
year,
I
I
went
to
a
conference
and
found
backhoes
and
loaders,
and
so
much
more
that
were
electric
electric
and
I'm
excited
about
that
and
and
the
technology
so
working
hand
in
hand
with
sustainability.
We
are
looking
at
the
infrastructure
as
we
are
increasing
our
electric
vehicles
in
our
government
Fleet.
We
are
also
starting
to
see
a
squeeze
on
the
infrastructure
and
charging
stations
along
with
that
comes
some
education.
I
G
Then
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
like
the
the
breakdown
on
the
the
fuel
types
of
the
vehicles,
and
so
when
I
look
at
and
then
I
look
at
your
fuel
fuel
costs,
so
the
electric
vehicles
are
still
a
small
number,
which
is
fine,
I.
Think
it's
you
gotta
be
smart.
When
you
bring
those
on
because
there's
there's
savings,
you
save
you
some
monies
but
I
think
also
I
noticed
that
since
I
drive
electric
vehicle
you're,
you
use
your
tires.
You
go
through
tires
quicker.
F
G
And
then,
on
the
hybrid
side
of
the
house,
oh
I
mean
a
few
gallons
used
is
probably
coming
down.
Of
course
the
price
is
going
up,
but
the
gallons
used
is
is,
should
be
significantly
dropping
also
off,
and
are
we
seeing
higher
maintenance
costs
because
of
the
hybrid
cars
5c,
all
gas
or
you
drive
a
councilman
employee
drives
a
gas
electric
right
or
hybrid
electric
plug-in.
O
E
E
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
so
I
have
a
few
questions.
Are
we
on
the
police
side
of
things?
Are
we
trying
to
retire
some
of
those
sedans
and
going
to
SUVs,
because
there's
an
overwhelming
feeling
that
and
consensus
within
the
you
know
the
the
the
this
lands
on
a
problem
more
than
the
solution,
so
that
I
by
the
knots
I
say
yes,.
O
D
Good
I,
you
know
and
I
it
wasn't
a
right
along
this
last
week
and
and
not
too
long
ago,
I
went
to
another
one,
and
you
know
those
sedans
are
even
problematic
for
a
normal
I
mean
a
civilian
like
me
and
so
I'm
glad
that
we're
moving
away
from
them.
So
if
you
have
all
this
equipment,
the
police
officers
carry
with
them
it's
very
hard
to
get
in
and
get
out
of
those
Vehicles
also,
but
that's
very
good
news.
D
As
far
as
the
fleet,
when
we
went
to
National
League
of
cities,
they
talk
very
much
about
additional
funding
from
the
feds
for
local
government
grant
money
to
update
our
fleets
with
clean
energy
Vehicles.
So
I
wonder
if
we
are
applying
for
that.
If
we
have
it
in
our
radar,
if
not
I'm
sure
that
we
can
find
it,
but
apparently
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
extra
money.
Recent
money,
new
money
to
upgrade
sleet,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
it
out
there.
O
D
D
D
If
you
go
out
driving
you're
going
to
see
a
vehicle
or
multiple
doing
something
else,
something
different
and
I
feel
like
it's
very
important
to
Brand
them,
even
maybe
older
vehicles
that
might
have
still
a
couple
years
to
go
with
a
new
branding
to
make
sure
that
the
people
actually
see
and
acknowledge
our
work
and
the
city's
their
money,
their
their
tax
money.
So
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
maybe
an
interest
on
you
know.
Branding
some
of
those
older
vehicles
know
if
they're
going
to
be
replaced
in
a
few
months.
O
B
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
B
May
23rd,
what
time
is
it
anyway?
It
doesn't
matter.
We
are
on
item
number
10.
fiscal
year,
2023-24
budget
for
the
non-departmental
fund,
which
is,
as
it
sounds,
a
non-depart,
not
a
department,
but
has
a
lot
of
things
in
it.
So
Jennifer
Brunner,
our
deputy
director,
is
going
to
walk
us
through
the
staff
report.
Thanks.
J
I
think
Mary
Beth
also
has
a
presentation
that
she'll
go
through,
so
maybe
first
I'll
just
give
a
broad
kind
of
contextual
overview
of
the
non-departmental
budget.
You're
correct
it's
sort
of
where
everything
that
doesn't
fit
perfectly
into
a
department
is
accounted
for.
It's
also
where
a
lot
of
the
transfers
to
either
other
funds
or
other
departments
go.
So
if
the
general
fund
is
paying
another
department
for
something
or
the
cities
transfer
to
CIP
is
located
there.
J
So
it
is
I
think
it
is
still
the
largest
city
Department,
technically
it's
118
million
in
the
general
fund,
and
if
you
include
all
of
the
other
funds
that
are
passed
through
funds
like
cdbg
and
housing
funds,
Debt
Service
funds,
the
total
funding
is
203
million.
The
best
place
to
look
for
every
single
line
item.
If
you're
interested
in
knowing
in
detail
what
every
single
line
item
is
proposed
for
funding
is
Pages
263
to
269
of
the
budget
book.
J
That's
where
you'll
get
a
line
by
line
accounting
of
each
item
and
what
the
proposal
is
for
either
change
or
not.
The
orientation
of
the
staff
report
is
I.
Guess
big
picture
to
more
detail
so,
if
you're
interested
in
more
detail
read
towards
the
end
of
the
staff
report,
if
you
just
want
a
big
picture,
it's
sort
of
the
beginning
of
the
staff
report
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Mary
Beth.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Next
slide,
please
Municipal
elections
are
upon
us,
and
this
is
for
284
thousand
dollars
for
ranked
Choice
voting,
thirty
thousand
for
oh
growth
of
office
event
and
twenty
thousand
for
ongoing
election
officials.
Events.
This
does
not
include
transitional
costs.
We
will
be
requesting
those
in
a
budget
amendment
when,
after
the
elections
have
been
completed,
we'll
discuss
transitional
costs
in
the
budget.
Amendment.
F
Q
Q
Employee
Appreciation
mayor's
office
and
Council
put
on
an
Employee
Appreciation
at
the
bees
ballpark
this
last
year.
That
money
was
found
at
a
whole
bunch
of
places,
but
we
are
going
to
request
the
funding
for
the
Employee
Appreciation
moving
forward.
So
that's
what's
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
of
150
000.
next
slide.
Please.
Q
This
amount
is
the
racial
equity
and
policing.
This
amount
has
been
there
since
2019
I
think-
and
this
is
just
moving
money
forward,
so
the
money
that
we
didn't
spend
we'll
be
moving
it
forward
and
requesting
that
additional
funding
and
then
an
increase
for
our
mental
health
responders
for
their
increase
next
slide.
Please.
Q
Transportation's
total
cost
net
increase
is
690,
810
is
the
reduction
in
Hive
passes.
We
looked
at
utilization
for
high
passes
and
that
this
is
the
reduction
for
that
High
Pass
based
on
usage.
Four
hundred
thousand
is
an
increase
in
transit
plan
services
for
key
routes
and
1.1
million
for
plan
for
on-demand
ride
services.
Q
Q
Transfer
to
CIP
and
Debt
Service,
this
totals
approximately
23
million
dollars,
10
million
10.3
million
goes
to
Debt
Service
and
12.8
million
will
go
to
CIP
and
there
are
ongoing
commitments.
Six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
ongoing
350
for
Capital
facilities,
replacement
250
for
Parks
Capital
replacement
700
to
maintain
yeah.
It
is
raining,
isn't
it
700
to
maintain
vacant
building
maintenance,
161
000
for
percentage
of
art
215
for
CIP
contingency?
Q
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
note
is
this
year
we
did
a
little
differently.
Usually
we
give
CIP
a
bucket
of
funding
and
they
take
percentage
of
Art
and
cost
overrun
off
of
that
this
year
we
did
it
Opposite.
We
took
it
out
first
and
then
gave
them
the
CIP
number
so
that
we
could
ensure
that
we
always
cover
the
percentage
for
art
and
the
cost
overrun
funding.
E
Q
Transfer
to
Fleet,
you
just
saw
fleet's
budget
it'll
be
11
million,
11.7
million
dollars
for
Fleet,
replace
replacement
and
7.6
million
for
Fleet
Maintenance.
This
includes
5
million
ongoing
Fleet
1.7
million
of
streets,
Fleet
4
million
of
Public
Safety
apparatus
and
vehicle
replacement
and
a
million
dollars
for
vehicles
for
new
positions.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Rda's
transfer
is
a
pass-through,
so
we
they
are
not
a
taxing
entity,
so
we
receive
the
revenue
and
then
we
have
to
transfer
it
out
to
the
RDA.
This
works
for
the
RDA,
the
Inland
port
and
the
convention
Hotel.
So
none
of
those
are
taxing
entities,
so
we
receive
the
funding
in
and
then
we
pass
it
through
to
those
entities.
The.
Q
Q
This
is
all
the
removal
of
one-time
fund
fun
funding.
We
had
a
million
dollars
for
Grant
match,
that
was
for
the
federal
grants,
a
million
dollars
for
the
NBA,
a
shooting
range
remediation
of
500
000
and
the
others,
and
then
City
Hall
security
improvements.
Those
the
others
are
small.
Next
slide.
Please.
Q
F
Yeah
thanks
so
I
just
wanted
to
raise
the
issue.
I
think
you
mentioned
it
already
in
a
previous
meeting,
but
that
the
the
county
increased
the
amount
the
County
Council
increased.
The
amount
that
they're
paying
towards
the
legal
defenders
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
parity
with
their
increase
for
the
prosecutor's
office,
the
District
Attorney's
office
and
the
mayor's
budget
raises
our
Prosecutor's
salary
to
meet
that.
But
we
didn't
raise
our
contribution
to
the
legal
defenders
by
the
same
amount
so
that
there's
parity
between
those
two
and
I.
F
Just
think
that
that's
that's
really
important.
For
a
number
of
reasons
that
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
especially
new
lawyers
that
you
know
come
out
and
and
get
really
good
trial
experience
in
either
a
prosecutor's
office
or
a
defense
office.
A
public,
defender's
office
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
keep
both
of
those
sides
competitive
so
that
they're
both
recruiting
good
talent.
F
The
other
thing
is
the
the
DA's
in
particular.
This
is
where
a
lot
of
people
that
you
know
for
what,
for
ever
one
reason
or
another.
This
is
how
their
interactions
with
law
enforcement
and
the
court
system
ends
up
getting
them
access
to
treatment
that
they
might
not
otherwise
have
known
about
or
had
an
incentive
to
participate
in,
and
public
defenders
are
the
people
that
are
walking
them
through
that
and
get
and
getting
them
connected
to
the
right
places
and
familiarizing
them
with
the
right
program.
F
So
I
think
it's
also
really
important
when
we
think
about
all
of
the
the
feedback
that
we
get
from
residents
and
the
concerns
about
what
we're
doing
about
homelessness.
This
I
think
is
a
really
translatable
place.
I
think
if
it's
like
an
additional
200
000,
we
can.
We
can
achieve
parity
with
them
because
we're
only
contributing
to
the
LDA.
That's
in
the
Justice
Court
and
the
county
is
doing
the
lva,
that's
in
justice
courts
and
in
District
Court.
So
we
should
be
able
to
do
it.
B
J
F
Q
L
F
F
M
M
F
Thank
you,
I
mean
I.
Think
for
me.
It's
not
just
a
cosmetic
thing.
I
think
that
it
is
a
source
of
confusion,
because
people
might
reasonably
think
that
there
are
accounting
services
here
and
they're,
not
so
I.
Think
shifting
towards
using
City
Hall
is
better
for
people
who
aren't
sure.
What's
going
on,
I
mean
I
already
get.
F
M
B
F
Q
G
G
To
add
that
parent
and
I
really
think
it's
a
a
valuable
asset,
keep
teaching
kids
how
to
ride
the
bus
getting
getting
into
that
good
habit,
also
just
basic
transportation
for
for
kids
and
families
to
go
to
events.
It's
used
for
the
bus,
the
tracks,
Beyond,
demand
and
I.
Think
that's
what
it
is.
That's
for
the
local
passing
and
the
on-demand
in
this
tree
car.
So
it's
going
to
be
an
additional
115
Grand,
but
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
find
some
of
that
money
in
in
different
Pockets
across
the
story.
E
F
F
Q
F
Q
B
B
M
B
B
B
B
B
This
is
the
unresolved
issues
list,
okay,
so
what
I'm
hoping
we
can
do
today
is
just
get
through
the
whole
list
so
that
we
know
the
breadth
of
the
requests
from
council
members
and
from
whomever
and
just
keep
in
mind
that
we,
how
many
there
are
so
we
can
get
through
them.
I
I
think
what
I'm
actually
asking
is
that
we
don't
go
into
too
much
debate
about
each
individual
issue,
because
we
have
the
schedule
like
three
more
times
during
the
budget
process,
but
I
think
it's
good
for
us
to
get
the
idea
there.
J
J
So
I
won't
go
over
the
revenue
items
list
because
that
may
change
depending
on
where
the
council
ends
up
in
terms
of
how
much
money
you
need
to
find
and
what
eligible
funding
sources
there
are
also
as
a
reminder,
some
of
the
items
are
would,
in
theory
be
eligible
for
funding
our
future
revenue,
and
so
that's
why
we
have
a
separate
column
for
funding
our
future.
So
we
can
keep
track
of
that
and
keep
that
transparency.
J
The
other
item
that
is
not
on
this
list
because
it
was
kind
of
we
kind
of
started
talking
about
things
today-
were
potential
cut
ideas,
and
so,
if
the
council,
if
council
members,
have
any
cut
ideas
that
you
want
to
add
to
this
list,
please
let
me
know
and
we'll
get
that
added.
So
those
are
not
on
this
list
today.
F
J
The
first,
the
first
kind
of
segment
of
ideas
are
housing
ideas
that
have
been
raised
by
one
or
more
council
members
and
the
chart
in
the
staff
report,
which
I
will
get
an
electronic
version
to
the
recorder's
office.
Sorry
about
that,
and
then
can
you
give
Lisa
and
Rachel?
Do
you
guys
have
a
copy?
Okay,.
P
J
H
If
you
wanna
and
I
think
we
sent
I
sent
you
an
email
via
Brian
I,
think
I
got
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
to
move
forward
and
meet
with
Administration
and
I.
Have
my
brother
Administration
there
were
and
with
the
mayor,
and
they
were
really
graceful
because
they
thought,
as
they
have
a
similar
Vision
with
driving
in
place
document.
So
this
would
be
something
that
they
would
support.
So
that's
why
it's
here
in
this
Council
idea
list.
P
H
D
B
H
J
So
the
administration
is
working
on
on
a
proposal
to
allocate
that
money
it's
about
12
million
dollars.
Some
of
that
money
has
have
more
strings
on
it
and
are
not
eligible
to
be
used
for
some
of
these
ideas.
Other
parts
of
that
money
are
eligible
to
be
used.
So
that's
what
we're
working
on
with
the
administration
right
now
to
make
sure
we
don't
accidentally
spend
one
of
the
pieces
in
the
cloud
that
have
more
strings.
B
H
G
G
B
J
And
I
think
the
other
thing
to
remember
is
a
lot
of
times
when
the
council
funds
these
sort
of
policy
goals.
We
ask
the
administration
to
come
back
with
a
recommendation
to
say
what
would
make
sense
as
a
threshold.
You
know
from
their
perspective,
so
the
council
could
fund
a
pot
of
money
with
a
policy
goal
and
have
the
administration
come
back
with
the
details.
J
The
next
item
is
based
on
the
council's
legislative
intent.
When
the
council
adopted
the
city-wide
Adu
ordinance
of
funding
a
million
dollars
for
a
city-wide
Adu
incentive
program,
there
is
funding
in
the
RDA
budget
from
the
nine
line
area
to
do
Adu
incentives
in
the
nylon
area
to
the
extent
that
they're
their
affordability
is
restricted.
Some
of
those
funds
could
be
used
city-wide,
but
I
think
that
some
council
members
had
an
interest
in
dramatically
in
expanding
that
program.
I
think
we
discussed
it
a
little
bit
during
the
RDA
board
discussion
budget
discussion.
A
Free
to
yeah
this
one
was
one
that
I
suggested.
This
arose
from
conversations
that
several
of
us
shared
around
the
Adu
conversation.
It
arose
from
the
need
to
increase
home
ownership,
and
it
arose
from
consultation
with
former
council
member
James
Rogers
as
to
what
he
intended
for
the
West
Side
Community
initiative,
money
to
be
used
for
when
he
advocated
for
it
so
fervently
during
the
early
stages
of
the
port,
and
so
this
matches
almost
exactly
all
of
the
criteria
that
he
set
forth.
A
It
meets
a
huge
need
in
our
neighborhood,
it's
technically
in
District
too,
but
it
is
definitely
a
west
side
project
that
deserves
support.
Maria's
track
record
alone
at
neighborworks
is
literally
my
entire
lifespan.
She
has
been
doing
my
life
worth
of
work
in
this
and
so
she's
a
known
entity.
There's,
of
course,
a
lot
of
details
to
be
worked
out
in
a
very
strong
mou.
A
A
A
B
A
A
J
And
there's
not
quite
sufficient
funds
in
the
West
Side
Community
initiative
in
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
proposal,
but
that's
why
we
highlighted
the
other
funding
source
potential
funding
source
of
the
excess,
North
Temple
Viaduct
CRA
funds.
The
board
had
had
a
discussion
about
where
those
where
those
funds
should
be
spent.
J
The
mayor's
proposed
budget
recommends,
including
those
in
the
overall
nofa,
that's
released,
but
as
Danny
mentioned
during
the
RDA
budget
overview
that
you
guys
did
a
couple
weeks
ago,
that
budget
proposal
was
put
together
before
the
council
initiate
or
indicated
that
that
was
a
preference.
So
you
could
have
some
of
those
funds
to
make
up
the
difference
or
all
of
those
funds.
It's
about
1.7
million
in
the
North
Temple
Viaduct.
D
I,
this
is
again
I
cannot
reiterate
how
much
I
love
this,
but
not
only
that
and
I
want
to
add
to
to
this
point.
This
is
no
wouldn't
be
a
new
program.
It's
a
trusted
partner
versus
you
know
a
different
program
that
we
just
talked
about,
creating
some
other.
You
know
unknown
trying
to
solve
this.
You
know
this
is
a
trusted
partner
that
has
a
track
record
and
knows
how
to
do
this,
and
we
all
know
that
they
can
do
this
on
the
west
side.
D
B
J
P
J
So,
funding
for
a
partnership
with
Salt,
Lake
County
to
add
housing
to
the
Sunday
Anderson
Senior
Center
reconstruction,
and
this
is
one
where,
in
conversations
with
the
administration,
there
is
a
portion
of
the
dormant
HUD
funds
that
do
have
a
string
in
terms
of
when
they
have
to
be
spent
by
that
this
may
be
a
good
candidate
for,
because
I
believe
the
county
also
has
a
deadline
for
the
funds
that
they're
using
for
this
project
so
go
ahead.
Council
member,
please.
D
But
the
county
is
willing.
It
seems
like
we
already
talked
to
pretty
much
everybody
on
the
on
their
side.
I
talked
to
this
is
in
an
RDA
District
too
so
I
mean
it
feels
like
it's
a
missed
opportunity.
If
we
let
this
opportunity
happen,
no
go.
That
means
probably
another
20
years
of
this
building
being
there,
and
nothing
else
happened
in
that
intersection.
D
So
the
county
is
going
to
spend
those
seven
million
dollars,
no
matter
what
so
might
as
well
leverage
some
of
our
money
in
it
to
get
some
housing
some
amenities-
and
we
even
talk
about
like
some
commercial
around-
that
building
to
actually
have
starting
the
business
now
on
top
of
housing
for
seniors.
So
it
will
be
a
perfect
deal.
They
love
the
idea
too,
but
we
might
need
to
just
push
a
little
more
and
put
a
little
some
more
money
in
there.
B
D
I
think
that
there
are
multiple
ways
to
go
about:
I.
Just
don't
want
us
to
punt
it
too
much
that
you
know,
then
we
need
to
open
open
up
a
budget
amendment
for
something
that
big
when
there's
already
many
deadlines
happening.
So
I
will
let
you
know
the
smarter
people
here
to
to
tell
me
how
they
think
it's
best,
but
I'm
open
to
obviously
I'm
open
to
any
possibilities.
H
D
Don't
necessarily
want
to
do
that.
I
mean
I'm
paraphrasing
and
reading
between.
So
many
of
the
meetings
and
lines
that
are
you
know
between
the
lines,
it
is
ideal
the
county
will
maybe
will
prefer
to
have
a
different
building
so
might
as
well
just
leverage
the
land
that
they
have
in
a
perfect
place
where
we
need
housing,
so
senior
centers
are
not,
they
don't
have
housing
senior
centers
the
county
doesn't
offer
housing,
Senior
Services,
it's
a
day
service.
D
So
it's
for
us
to
pitch
in
to
add
housing
to
this
corner,
and
so
then
we
meet
our
goals
of
adding
more
housing
housing
for
seniors,
which
is
a
rarity,
unfortunately
in
our
in
our
city
and
our
County,
so
we
basically
partner
up
with
them.
We
leverage
their
money.
We
leverage
our
money,
we
get.
You
know
everybody's
happy,
I,
guess,
I
guess.
J
And
and
in
this
particular
case
with
the
funding
that
the
administrative
staff
was
thinking
that
could
fit
for
this,
it
depends
on
the
deadline.
It
depends
on
the
timeline
of
construction.
Whether
or
not
those
funds
are
eligible.
I
should
have
added
one,
that's
not
on
the
staff
report
I'm
adding
it
now.
The
staff
report
was
written
while
the
meeting
was
going
on.
Apologies,
we're
gonna,
make
lots
of
edits
on
the
Fly
here.
J
The
other
eligible
funding
source
for
this
is
Project
Area
Housing
funds,
so
the
RDA
has
an
account
for
housing
dollars
in
Project
areas,
housing
project
in
Project
areas
and
I-
think
there
was
like
two
of
two
million
I'll
have
to
confirm
allocated
in
that
in
that
budget.
So
if,
if
the
dormant
HUD
funds
or
if
or
if
some
of
the
HUD
funds
are,
are
complicated
to
figure
out,
there
are
alternative
funding
sources.
Okay,.
H
H
D
B
Just
say,
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
and
I
think
the
goals
that
you're
stating
make
sense
and
I
align
with
those
goals.
What
I
don't
want
to
do
is
earmark
funding
out
of
our
housing
dollars
for
a
project.
That's
gonna!
That's
gonna,
take
two
to
three
years
like
just
because
I
know
how
long
it
takes
to
design
a
project
it's
going
to
take
two
years
before
we
can
actually
use
those
dollars
when
I
could
go
to
a
project
now
because
we
know
housing
dollars
keep
coming.
B
We
have
a
minimum
of
10
from
every
RDA
project
area.
We
have
the
Inland
Port
funds
for
housing,
so
we're
going
to
get
housing
dollars
every
year.
So
it
might
be
something
that
is
ready
in
two
years,
but
I
love.
The
idea
and
I
would
support
our
staff
working
with
the
county
to
to
figure
out
what
it
could
be.
Let's.
D
Say
this:
if
that's
okay
with
you
that
again
I!
That
is
a
very
legitimate
concern,
because
we
might
have
projects
right
now
that
are
ready
to
go
and
we're
not
starting
a
new
project.
This.
What
I
I
know
that
the
County
Council
has
allocated
the
money
and
they
need
to
spend
it
and
they're.
You
know
they
have
to
go
so
if
we
actually
start
giving
them
like
the
right
signals.
You
know
that
we
are
invested
in
on
this
idea.
Then
they
are
going
to
say.
D
E
J
The
next
item
is
funding,
for
we
understand
to
be
a
gap
at
the
switch
point.
Permanent
Supportive
Housing
project
along
North,
Temple
The
Proposal,
is
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
go
towards
their
Gap
there's
a
couple
of
options,
including
fund
balance
and
some
of
the
flexible,
dormant
HUD
funds,
if
they're
not
fully
spent
on
another
item.
A
This
one
was
suggested
by
me
because
out
of
the
six
million
in
Grants
that
we
gave
out,
this
is
the
only
one
that
has
opened
and
it
has
taken
three
vulnerable
women
who
I
know
personally
and
given
them
a
safe
place
to
live
women
who
are
really
active
on
our
community
Facebook
pages,
who
are
known
quantities?
It's
this
service
is
actually
doing
what
they
say,
they're
doing,
which
is
making
sure
that
our
River
Trail
and
our
communities
are
livable
and
that
there's
dignity
for
our
neighbors.
A
That
said,
we
have
done
our
part
and
we
have
done
it
well
if
there
is
something
that
needs
wiggle,
room
and
flex
room
I'm
A-Okay
at
my
as
far
as
I
know-
and
we
are
verifying
this
because
it
was
communicated
to
me
in
a
casual
conversation.
The
Gap
is
two
million
dollars,
and
so
I
completely
arbitrarily
picked
the
500
000.
Just
saying
you
know
another
25
towards
that
would
be
helpful.
A
A
G
J
In
our
discussions,
because
we're
not
clear
we're
not
clear
on
the
exact
final
use
of
that
money,
it
would
probably
need
to
come
from
the
most
flexible
of
those
dormant
HUD
funds,
which
is
a
limited
pool
and,
to
the
extent
that
you
spend
it
on
other
things.
It's
not
available
for
this,
and
so
that'll
be
a
discussion
of
our
council
members
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
more
information
from
the
administration
on
what
the
extent
of
that
pool
is
and
what
other
programs
they're
recommending
with
that
money.
One.
G
A
E
B
D
And
I
could
speak
a
little
bit
about
this
I.
You
know
I
I,
you
know
I
wanted
to
I
put
you
know,
I've
been
talking
to
them
to
the
to
the
council
staff
about
this.
Obviously,
recently
I
went
to
We
visited
the
Denver
one,
the
Denver
site.
This
is
one
of
the
biggest.
You
know,
issues
that
we
all
hear
about
is
about
camping
in
our
in
our
city.
D
You
know
and
I
the
the
Denver
model
is
fantastic
and
I
feel,
like
you
know,
if
we
can
actually
help
on
on
this
as
a
grant
fund
that
those
funds
be
leveraged
with
state
or
County
funds,
so
you
can
only
access
the
funds
with
certain
limitations
right,
but
only
if
you
also
get
some
County
and
state
funds.
So
then
we
are,
you
know,
then
we
actually
push
those
organizations
and
providers
into
having
a
solution
for
for
the
the
sanction,
the
the
camping
that
is
happening
in
our
city.
D
So
again,
like
we
heard
in
this
meeting
recently.
Yes,
we
need
all
sorts
of
kind
of
different
kinds
of
housing
and
solutions
and
I
very
strongly
believe
that
you
know
sanction
camping
is
one
of
those
it
works.
It
works
if
it's
done
well.
I
feel
like
250.
000
per
the
Denver
model
will
allow
an
organization
to
start
a
small
camp,
but
it
could
allow
multiple
organizations
to
start
smaller
camps.
So
that's
what
I
I
wish
we
can
actually
go
that
direction.
I.
G
G
D
And
and
how
I
Envision
this
is
you
leverage
the
funds
like
you
only
access,
the
you
know
if
you
get,
if
you
want
ten
thousand
dollars
from
this
grant,
you
need
to
get
either
10
000
from
the
state
or
ten
thousand
from
the
county
right.
It's
try
to
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
see
at
us.
We
need
to
to
do
something
and
there
is
a
sense
of
urgency.
So
thank
you.
I'd.
A
However,
our
neighborhood
is
already
a
different
place
than
it
was
when
there
was
snow
on
the
ground
and
the
Emergency
Shelters
were
open
and
the
people
I'm,
seeing
increasingly
it's
not
just
my
house
neighbors,
who
are
already
going.
There's
people
camping
on
the
10th
green,
telling
me,
where
they're
but
I'm
noticing
a
sense
of
desperation
and
frustration
in
our
unsheltered
people
that
we
have
got
to
communicate
as
vibrantly
as
possible
a
sense
of
urgency.
A
We
know
that
in
this
state
money
talks,
and
so
if
that's
the
carrot
that
that
signals
to
people
that
we
are
full
in-
and
this
is
what
we
need
to
do-
oh
okay,
let's
do
that,
but
I
mean
if
land
use
is
what
we
do
too.
Let's
find
we
have
got
to
see
movement
on
this.
We
cannot
spend
another
summer
studying
it.
G
J
P
J
Not
on
the
it
Excel
sheet,
so
the
first
item
is
firefighter
pay
increases.
Different
council
members
have
suggested
different
amounts
and
at
different
points
in
the
year,
and
so
Finance,
thankfully
calculated
for
each
one
percent,
how
much
it
costs
for
a
full
year
and
for
each
one
percent,
how
much
it
costs
for
a
half
year.
So,
depending
on
the
amount
and
scope
the
council,
we
could
calculate
how
much
the
council
would
need
to
find
in
the
budget
just
to
point
out.
D
And
just
to
context
on
that
next
year
there
will
be
a
full
negotiation
to
you
know
so
I
mean
even
if
you
ended
up
doing
it
now
we
are,
you
know
it
will
be
part
of
the
conversation
right
next
year
with
the
negotiation.
So
it's
not
like
we're
putting
ourselves
in
a
hole.
You
know
next
year
there
is
going
to
likely
maybe
be
racist
expected.
So
what,
when
I
am
hoping
that
we
accomplishes
that
we
we
move
a
little
closer
to
where
they
need
to
be.
E
J
Percent,
right
and
I
should
have
added
that
when
we
negotiated
with
the
fire
department
or
fire
Union
last
year,
what
they
were
expecting
for
this
year,
because
there
was
a
three-year
chart,
was
three
percent
and
so
I
think
the
Administration
has
had
the
Viewpoint
that
five
percent
was
already
exceeding
kind
of
expectations
leading
into
next
year's
negotiations.
But
obviously
inflation
is
what
it
is.
Yeah.
E
B
B
D
And
I
was
requesting
these
numbers,
so
we
have
an
idea
of
you
know.
Maybe
maybe
we
can
do
a
one
percent
or
if
we
don't
get
there
or
you
know,
if
we
don't
get
there,
we
can
do
a
half
a
percent.
So
we
do
a
percent
by
starting
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
right.
Okay,
so
you
know
just
so.
We
have
some
context
got
it.
L
And
when
you
get
into
these
to
the
pay
plans
of
the
different
Union
groups
and
non-represented,
the
percentages
don't
equate
to
each
person
so
because
of
the
way
the
pay
plans
are
structured,
some
people
will
be
would
be
getting
a
much
more
significant
raise
and
others
would
be
getting
less.
So
just
so
that
you
know,
there's
not
a
way
to
equate
to
exact
percentage
per
person.
J
If
you
were
to,
if
you
wanted,
if
the
council
decided
that
you
wanted
to
have
a
firefighter
salary
increases
at
six
percent
for
the
full
fiscal
year,
you
would
have
to
find
376
624
to
add
to
the
budget.
If
you,
if
you
wanted
to,
which
is
sometimes
what
the
city
does,
when
you
can't
find
the
total
amount,
if
you
wanted
to
just
start
it
in
January,
instead
of
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year,
you
would
have
to
find
188
000
to
add
to
the
budget.
Okay,.
F
J
F
H
D
L
On
just
a
very
quick
point
to
keep
aware
of-
and
that
is
that,
because
the
wages
are
negotiated
and
we
have
a
labor
bargaining
agreement,
it
is
very
unusual
for
them
to
approach
the
council
directly
and
it
probably
has
an
effect
long
term
on
the
willingness
of
the
unions
to
negotiate
with
the
administration
if
they
view
that
it's
easier
to
come
to
the
council
or
if
they
negotiate
their
best
deal
with
them.
So
it's
just
one
of
those
tug
and
pull
things
to
keep
in
mind.
F
J
J
J
J
Looking
at
cases,
you
can
correct
me
for
all
attorneys
whether
they
are
in
the
Civil
Division
or
in
the
county,
and
so
because,
obviously
one
pay
change
affects
other
pay
changes,
as
we've
seen
with
the
state
change
their
pay
and
that
had
a
whole
trickle-down
effect.
So
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that.
Katie
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
information
to
share,
or
we
can
just
forward
it
to
the
council
later.
R
Is
the
salaries
for
the
LDA
attorneys,
so
you'll
have
a
comparison
of
the
civil
attorneys
in
the
city,
attorney's
office,
the
prosecutors
that
are
city,
employees
and
our
city
prosecutors
that
are
managed
by
the
district
attorney
and
LDA,
which
we
pay
through
a
contract.
So
you'll
have
all
three
of
those
do.
B
J
Just
very
different
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
ways
is
the
health
insurance.
We
have
an
entirely
different
health
insurance
plan
than
the
county
does
that's
just
off
the
top
of
my
head.
One
way
the
Utah
State
retirement
system
is
the
same
for
both
County
and
city
employees,
but
insurance
benefits
are
separately,
managed
got
it.
D
Let
me
reiterate
something
very
quickly
with
councilman
Warren
mentioned
earlier.
This
is
you
know.
I
also
been
pushing
for
this.
On
on
to
be
added
to
this
list,
I
used
to
work
for
the
legal
Defender
associations,
I
know
how
much
they
do
to
solve
and
help
us
with
the
issue
of
mental
health
substance
abuse
and
connecting
those
that
enter
the
criminal
system
with
services
and
housing.
G
J
J
Item
is
the
legal
defenders.
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
go
over
that
again.
The
only
item
I
guess
I
should
mention
is
that
we've
included
a
related
legislative
intent
based
on
feedback
from
council
member
Fowler,
who
was
interested
in
expanding
the
funding
for
legal
defenders
to
come
out
of
funding
our
future
on
the
theory,
I
think
I,
believe
council
member
Wharton
was
getting
to
this,
that
the
role
that
they
play
in
the
justice
system
is
very
similar
to
the
role
social
workers
play
of
getting
them
connected
to
services
and
helping
navigate
systems.
J
Is
that
what
you
were
saying?
Sorry?
Maybe
I'm
gonna
misheard
anyway,
if,
if
you
do
view
it
as
funding
our
future
eligible,
then
that
expands
the
potential
funding
source
if
you
wanted
to
increase
that
contract.
The
other
item
that
council
member
Fowler
was
interested
in
related
to
this
topic
was
potentially
evaluating.
This
would
be
a
longer
term
evaluation
of
whether
it
makes
sense
to
contract
with
the
county
overall
for
legal
defense
Services,
rather
than
have
kind
of
two
separate
contracts
within
LDA
for
that
service.
J
B
J
J
One
council
member
asked
about
workers
and
if
they
were
getting
a
wage
increase
and
I,
don't
believe
I
think
we
heard
back
from
public
lands
that
they
are
not.
So
if
you
wanted
to
increase
wages
for
seasonal
workers,
you'd
have
to
find
money
in
the
budget.
We
don't
have
a
dollar
figure
for
that.
Yet,
but.
J
J
F
J
G
G
J
G
J
D
D
This
is
the
a
system
that
will
allow
drivers,
pedestrians
and
any
other
form
of
transportation
to
know
if
the
train
is
coming,
and
you
know
potentially
for
how
long
it's
gone
to
the
crossing
is
going
to
be
cut
out.
This
technology
exists
is
being
used
in
some
other
cities.
It
will
really
allow
us
to
plan
better
or
we'll.
Potentially,
we
know
when
we
can
get
to
work.
We
you
know
emergency
knows
to
take
alternative
routes.
You
can
actually
check
on
your
phone
if
they're
Crossing
is
going
to
be
crossed.
D
When
you
travel
I
mean
there
is
a
multitude
of
options,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
put
the
money
into
a
a
bucket
and
a
lot
of
administration
to
work
through
the
Kinks
of
this
this
and
if
it
doesn't
end
up
handing
out
because
of
whatever
reason.
Obviously,
you
know
that
money
can
come
back
to
this
to
to
the
general
fund
for
all
the
projects,
but
I
believe
that
we
can
make
it
happen.
It
really
is.
I
was
stuck
on
behind
the
train
for
30
minutes
the
day.
I
didn't
know.
D
D
F
D
A
I'm
not
I
am
fully
in
support
of
this
program
as
well,
because
I
share
your
horror
stories
multiple
times
a
day,
but
I
do
want
to
also
suggest
that
this
is
something
worth
bringing
up.
It
might
be
a
great
a
great
Community
impact
thing
for
the
port,
with
that
tax
increment,
to
ask
them
to
take
on
I.
J
The
next
item
hold
on
the
next
item
is
an
idea
to
increase
the
street
Mill
overlay
pilot
program,
and
this
is
one
of
the
items
that
I'll
ask
you
to
edit
delete
to
address
potholes,
because
I
I
think
it
was
clarified
in
the
Public
Services
briefing
that
really.
This
is
a
new
kind
of
service
level
to
provide
to
hopefully
reduce
the
number
of
potholes
in
the
future,
but
not
necessarily
to
fill
potholes.
J
G
And
I
think
the
idea
I,
like
the
idea
of
the
pilot
and
I,
was
I
kind
of
threw
out
the
care
of
hey.
If
750
gets
you
some
equipment,
if
you
got,
you
know
two
sets
of
that
equipment
later
on
after
you
feel
like
it's
proven
itself,
you
know
for
1.5,
let's
find
that
other
750
for
the
second
second
second
set
of
equipment,
so
you
can
run
24
7
on
the
equipment
and
then
get
through
this
50
of
the
streets
that
need
the
fair
and
the
Poor
Side.
So.
B
G
G
To
buy
the
equipment,
that's
to
buy
the
equipment
exactly
and
they
have
the
Personnel
to
use
that
equipment
right
now
if
they
want.
If
we
think
that
equipment's
good
and
we
can
run
it
24
7
or
we
could
use
an
extra
set
of
equipment,
let's
look
at
additional
equipment
and
maybe
an
additional
ftes.
Okay.
P
J
A
P
G
S
The
project
you're
thinking
of
is
specific
to
Main
Street.
It's
10
locations,
10
Crossings
on
Main
Street
from
this
Main
Street
to
City
Limits,
just
for
Main
Street
gotcha.
That
is
separate
from
the
1.3
million
dollars,
proposed
to
continue
the
livable
streets
traffic
calming
program
right,
which
is
separate
from
this
correct.
This
is
I,
think
temporary
would
be
the
word.
B
J
They
get
an
automatic
text
message
record
of
their
case
number
I.
Don't
think!
We've
had
a
chance
to
raise
this
with
dispatch
to
see
what
they're
looking
at
or,
if
they're,
looking
at
anything
similar.
So
I'll
just
throw
that
out
there
that
this
is
a
new
idea
that
we
haven't
run
by
the
administration.
J
D
Council
member
okay,
I
mean
again.
This
happened
just
because
I
went
right
along
the
other
day
and
the
officers
were
telling
me
about
this
amazing
thing
that
the
upd
is
doing
so.
If
you
call
either
911
or
the
just
dispatch
you
get,
an
automatic
text
message
tells
you.
This
is
your
case
number.
When,
when
officers
ended
the
visiting
the
the
call
you
get
a
text
message
saying
hey
the
office,
is
you
know,
we're
there
so,
basically
there's
a
track
record.
D
I
think
this
will
I
talked
to
the
sheriff
on
the
undersheriff
and
then
the
I.T
Department
of
the
upd
they're
able
to
send
surveys.
After
the
call
saying
how
was
the
interaction
with
the
officers
they're
getting
an
incredible
amount
of
feedback
positive
back
it
will.
It
will
help
us
with
the
idea
that
the
officers
that
we
need
to
do
more
with
policing
it
keeps
the
track
records
receipts.
I,
really
believe
that
it
will
help
a
lot
this
on
this
idea
that
we're
you
know.
B
I
mean
make
sure
I
understand
that
I
call
dispatch.
I
have
some
issue,
that's
a
lower
priority.
It
takes
them
four
hours
to
get
to
that.
They
go
there
and
realize
the
issues
cleared
up.
I
will
then
get
a
push
notification
to
my
phone.
That
says:
here's
what
happened!
Whereas
right
now,
there's
you
don't
know
I.
D
That's
interesting
fantasy
that
it
created
with
the
upd
and
it's
created
in
the
implemented
about
six
months
ago
and
they're
just
raving
about
it
and
they're,
sending
me
more
documents.
I
wanted
to
flag
it
in
there.
It
it
didn't.
This
is
not
a
secret
I,
just
learned
about
it
and
I
started
spinning
all
over
it,
trying
to
find
more
information.
Okay,
so.
J
I
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
a
guess:
that's
what
that's
one
of
the
yellow,
but
we
have
absolutely
no
idea.
I
think
what
Ben
is
going
to
do
is
follow
up
with
dispatch
to
see
one
if
they
are
looking
at
something
like
this,
it's
possible
that
they're
looking
at
something
similar.
The
agencies
tend
to
sometimes
communicate,
and
then,
if
not,
maybe
they
can
help
us
with
a
cost
estimate
for
what
that
might
look
like
in
Salt,
Lake,
City,
okay,
and
that
would
likely
be
an
ongoing
cost.
J
Just
those
items
tend
to
be
ongoing,
then
the
next
item
was
raised
by
a
council
member.
Also,
this
is
a
ballpark
funding
amount
I,
don't
we
asked
economic
development
for
feedback
on
if
we
gave
Economic
Development
funding
to
partner
with
local
non-profits?
Would
that
extend
the
reach
of
the
economic
development
department?
Thinking
that
those
local
nonprofits
already
have
interactions
with
different
different
aspects
of
the
community,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
go
through
my
email
yet
to
see
if
Lorena
responded,
though
so
right
now,
this
is
just
a
placeholder,
but.
J
E
H
The
goal
is
to
we,
our
Economic
Development
Group
has
so
much
capacity
at
the
moment
and
I
feel
like
we're
under
utilizing
certain
non-profits
that
work
work
with
small
businesses
out
there
that
they
have
the
capacity
to
do
some
of
the
work,
but
they
might
not
have
funding
or
additional
funding
to
to
do
certain
things.
Maybe
it's
an
event.
Maybe
it's
education,
the.
H
G
For
a
certain
program
and
we've
had
conversations
with
the
economic
development
and
non-profit
organization,
that
kind
of
tries
that
hurt
all
the
cats
and
and
provide
services
for
all
the
different
non-profits
that
don't
maybe
know
understand
how
to
work
through
the
system
and
how
to
work
through
the
city.
So
it's
like
the
Utah
non-profit,
Association
or
something
of
that
nature.
Yeah.
B
B
A
B
B
B
J
J
J
J
A
J
F
B
J
B
S
D
D
So
I
I
keep
hearing
about.
You
know
sewage,
trailer
water
going
into
the
German
river
I
wanted
us
to
put
ten
thousand
dollars
into
a
voucher
to
go
dump,
so
those
that
are
in
our
bees
can
solicit
a
voucher
through
the
you
know,
all
the
many
different
organizations
that
are
on
the
streets
to
go
pay
for
the
fees
to
dump
your
black
water.
D
D
H
H
D
B
J
The
public
lands,
division
or
Department
sorry
gave
us
some
information
about
what
it
would
cost
to
add
one
additional
crew
to
the
park.
Ranger
staff,
although
I
think
it's
in
terms
of
expectation
setting
I,
think
adding
one
additional
crew
would
not
necessarily
mean
that
there
would
be
a
park
ranger
at
every
Park
and
trail
all
the
time.
So
just
from
a
ballpark
perspective,
it
would
be
about
600
000
for
one
additional
crew.
G
G
G
Right
and
we're
also
probably
looking
for
some
metrics
too.
We
were
asking
for
metrics
on
the
park
ranger,
so
I'm
I
wanted
to
see
the
I'd
like
to
see
the
metrics,
and
maybe
we
need
some
more
time.
I
would
I
suggest
we
have
that
metrics
before
we
just
because
we're
all
we're
adding
some
other
things
here,
yeah
and
I
think
that
would
be
nice
to
have
first.
H
E
J
B
P
J
Q
J
J
There
are
always
a
handful
of
things
in
the
budget
that
we
discover,
like
money,
is
going
to
drop
to
fund
balance
unless
we
reappropriate
it
in
the
next
year,
because
we
put
it
in
a
general
fund
department
and
not
a
capital
account
so
or
one
I.
One
item
we
clarified
is
that
the
lifestyle
savings
account
unless
it's
funded.
Unless
the
funding
is
increased,
it
would
not
be
eligible
for
all
city
employees
or
it
would
be
a
first
come
first
serve
essentially
for
that
program.
J
J
G
B
B
H
H
J
F
B
J
Think
the
intention
was
to
have
it
available
to
all
employees,
including
Enterprise
funds,
but
the
general
fund
was
the
only
one
providing
the
funding.
So
while
the
general
fund,
the
addition
to
the
general
fund,
is
only
670
000.
In
order
to
have
the
Enterprise
funds
fund.
The
program
they'll
have
to
add
the
full
100
of
the
program,
because
previously
the
general
fund
was
essentially
subsidizing
the
Enterprise
funds
for
that.
Q
E
J
There's
400
000
left
that's
in
addition
to
a
million
that
was
set
aside
in
budget
amendment
number
five
for
building
security
and
then
for
downtown
Street
activation.
You
added
500
000
in
budget
amendment
number
five,
because
that
event
will
those
events
will
likely
not
happen
until
the
end
of
the
fall
or
sorry
the
the
fall
ish
end
of
summer
fall-ish
area?
J
J
G
J
J
I
think
what
it
would
do
is
if
you
combined
this
money
with
the
million
that
you
guys
appropriated
in
the
last
budget
amendment
that
would
provide
a
pool
of
1.4
million
dollars
and
I.
Think
one
option
is
that
that,
if
you
approve
the
building
security
manager
position
that
that
position
could
recommend
how
to
spend
it,
the
council
could
also
say
we
want
to
spend
1.4
million
dollars
on
bollards.
But
that's
up
to
you
guys.
B
J
J
B
S
It's
actually
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
total
it's
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
book.
There's
ninety
thousand
dollars
from
this
fiscal
year
that
is
expected
to
be
encumbered
Once
the
lease
is
signed,
but
you
still
need
five
thousand
dollars
more
to
get
to
the
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
total
okay.
R
S
J
The
next
item
is
was
inadvertently
included
in
the
budget,
so
maybe
I
should
start
this.
By
saying
this
is
good
news.
It's
only
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
in
good
news,
but
something
was
accidentally
included
in
the
budget
as
ongoing
money.
That
is
one
time
and
so
you
could.
The
council
could
choose
to
take
that
money
and
distribute
it
among
all
the
other
ideas.
Let's
do
that
yay.
J
F
B
B
G
A
L
For
example,
you
decided
not
to
fund
the
building
administrator
position
in
addition
to
the
situation
where
you
wouldn't
be
saving
that
whole
amount.
The
other
thing
that's
happening
is
that
the
current
people
who
are
in
the
building
managing
things
are
supposed
to
be
doing,
repairs
and
things
that
preserve
the
life
of
the
building.
Unfortunately,
they're
diverted
to
doing
everyday
tasks
of
moving
desks
and
hanging
pictures
and
all
of
those
things,
because
there's
not
a
manager.
That's
looking
at
that
and
saying
gee.
L
E
B
J
J
B
It
okay,
you
know
what
I
mean
I
do
have
a
question.
I
should
have
asked
this
during
the
police
briefing,
but
civilian
response.
The
four
I
thought
we
already
funded
the
civilian
responders
they're
asking
for
four
more.
Is
that
correct
and
right?
Can
you
just
remind
me
why
we
need
more
or
what
what's
inadequate
right
now,
the.
S
S
G
They
do
have
right
now.
It's
promising
that
the
data
that
they
have
is
promising
of
what
their
services
are.
Providing
I
mean
it's
it's
valuable
for
both
the
police
side
of
the
house,
the
homeless
side
of
the
house,
the
hospital
side
of
the
house,
everything
so
but
the
promise
it
is
promising
service
and.
E
B
J
B
Okay,
I
guess
what
I'll
say
is.
Thank
you
for
this.
It's
helpful
for
me
to
see
the
red
the
full
scope
of
what
council
members
have
been
interested
in
adding
or
subtracting
I
think
what
I'm
going
to
be
doing
is
looking
at
these
and
trying
to
prioritize,
which
ones
I
I,
don't
see
any
hardly
any
of
them,
especially
now
that
we've
crossed
a
few
off
I.
B
E
B
We
have
two
written
briefings
so
take
a
look
at
those
insurance
and
risk
management
budget
and
the
finance
department
budget.
Those
are
doing
being
done
as
written
briefings
this
year,
because
the
changes
are
not
huge
reporting,
chair
and
vice
chair
I
do
not
have
a
report.
Okay,
we
do
have
an
announcement
from
executive
director,
okay,.
B
L
B
F
Okay,
when
I
voted
for
this
and
when
we
were
talking
earlier
I
thought
that
I
had
a
trial
on
this
day
that
was
going
to
get
canceled,
but
it's
going
so
I
won't
be
here
that
day
at
all,
oh
at
all,
yeah,
but
in
the
but
I'll
I
mean
I'll,
come
when
the
trial
ends.
But
I
don't
know
when
that
will
be,
but
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
you
and
I
made
it
one
or
starting
it
at
one.
F
B
L
C
F
J
A
B
L
B
J
B
B
H
Mr
chair-
yes,
just
just
a
special
announcement.
I
have
cafesito
with
Anna
tomorrow
at
the
green
Loop
here
on
Second
East
and
for
South
for
those
that
would
like
to
come
and
ask
me,
questions
about
budget
or
District
Four
or
anything
CD
related
I'll,
be
there
at
6,
00
PM
with
coffee
lemonade,
maybe
something
to
eat
but
come
check
it
out,
because
we
need
everybody's
feedback
on
this
green
Loop
pilot
project,
cool.
B
Right
we're
not
done
yet
council
members,
we
are
going
to
adjourn
from
work
session
and
have
a
special
limited,
formal
meeting.
I
don't
need
a
motion.
Do
I
do
I
need
a
different
link.
Sorry
Mr,
chair
I.
Don't
think
we
need
a
different
link.
Do
we
no
no
we're
staying
in
this
link?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
work
session
is
adjourned
Welcome
to
our
special
limited,
formal
meeting.
B
The
next
full
public
meeting
will
be
on
Tuesday
June
6
at
7
pm,
and
that
will
will
have
an
opportunity
for
public
comments
on
agenda
item
topics
as
well
as
general
comment.
The
council
always
welcomes
public
comments
by
mailing
us
at
PO,
Box,
145476,
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah,
84114
or
emailingcouncil.com,
or
by
calling
our
24
hour
comment
line.
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