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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Council Work Session - 01/10/2023
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A
A
A
City
council
meeting,
we
continue
to
host
hybrid
meetings.
Our
meetings
are
public
and
you
are
welcome
to
join
us
in
person
or
by
watching
from
the
council's
agenda
page
Facebook,
YouTube
or
SLC
TV.
We
hope
you'll
continue
to
join
us
in
which,
in
whichever
manner
you
feel
most
comfortable
today
is
a
work
session.
Only
meeting
during
which
there
is
no
public
comment,
you
can
join
us
on
January
17
2023
during
our
7
PM
formal
meeting.
To
share
your
comments.
A
A
We
will
now
begin
our
work
session
and
before
we
get
to
item
number
one,
we
are
going
to
choose
new
seats
for
the
upcoming
year
and
we
have
said
decided
that
Victoria
and
I
will
not
choose
seats
and
will
sit
in
whatever
seat
the
RDA
chair
and
vice
chair
end
up
choosing
during
RDA
meeting.
A
C
C
G
So
your
honor
you'll
be
sitting
next
to
Cindy
or
Jennifer
and
I'll
be
on
your
left.
H
And
I'm
going
to
stay
in
this
season,
I'm
number
four.
H
Do
you
want
to
move
one
more?
Do
you
want
to
switch?
Do
you
want
to
be
here
instead
of
yeah?
Let
me
think
about
it.
I
I
will
remember
this.
Okay,
I'll
flip
it
I'll
flip
with
you.
G
A
Okay,
but
for
now
we're
staying
where
we
are
welcome
right.
That
was
very
orderly.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Now
we're
on
the
actual
number
item
number
one
which
is
Administrative
updates,
so
at
the
table
we
have
Rachel
Otto
chief
of
staff
and
we
have
Lindsay
and
we
have
Josh.
It
looks
like
just
Lindsay
and
Josh.
Okay.
I
Just
a
quick
update
on
covid
cases
in
the
US
are
up
two
percent
in
the
last
two
weeks
and
then
you'll
see
cases
in
Utah
across
the
state
are
down
23
in
the
last
two
weeks
next
slide.
This
is
just
information
around
covid-19,
vaccinations
and
boosters
and
where
you
can
get
them
so
there
are
three
great
ways
in
the
county
that
you
can
get
vaccinated.
I
First,
you
can
do
it
at
any
Salt,
Lake,
County,
Health,
immunization
clinic
you
can
do
it
through
any
CNS
Mass
vaccination
location
which
in
Salt
Lake
City,
that
is
at
2830
South
Redwood
Road
or
you
can
do
it
at
your
local
pharmacy
or
a
private
provider.
There
should
be
no
cost
for
you
to
get
vaccinated.
I
If
you
have
insurance,
they
will
contact
your
insurance
for
it,
but
it
should
be
free
of
charge
for
you,
people
under
the
age
of
18
need
to
be
accompanied
by
a
guardian
at
their
appointment
and
then
there's
additional
information
on
ages
six
months
and
up
and
how
they
can
get
boosted.
Depending
on
what
initial
vaccination
they
had.
You
can
find
all
that
information
on
the
Salt
Lake
County
website,
so
that
is
our
couple
of
slides
for
covid
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Josh.
Unless
anyone
has
any
questions.
J
You
all
right
next
slide.
Please
so
update
today
for
Community
engagement's
a
bit
light,
but
we
always
start
with
the
slc.gov
feedback,
which
is
the
feedback
Community
page,
which
has
the
latest
surveys
that
are
open
for
comment
as
well
as
reports
on
previous
surveys,
and
a
lot
of
people
are
still
unaware
of
this
resource,
because
there's
lots
of
different
surveys
that
the
city
does
and
they're
all
in
one
place,
and
so
we
continue
to
share
this
next
slide.
Please
for
transportation.
J
The
comment
periods
are
closed
for
two
surveys
for
West
Temple
reconstruction
and
Virginia
Street
and
those
feedback.
The
feedback
for
those
projects
will
be
analyzed.
As
a
reminder,
the
Virginia
reconstruction
is
from
South
Temple
to
11th
Avenue
and
West
Temple.
The
West
Temple
Project
is
from
South
Temple
to
200.
South
and
construction
will
be
later
this
year.
J
J
Next
slide,
please,
and
lastly,
is
our
return
of
our
community
outreach
office
hours
liaison's
from
the
mayor's
office,
go
to
businesses
and
gathering
places
throughout
the
city
to
be
available
to
Residents,
who
want
to
drop
in
and
talk
about,
City
issues,
learn
about
city
services
or
give
feedback
to
the
mayor's
office,
and
so
right
now,
as
we
speak,
Ava
Lopez
is
across
the
street
at
Santo
taco
talking
to
some
people
there
and
being
available
there
until
6
pm.
J
K
Afternoon
Council
next
slide,
please
numbers
for
utilization
of
the
Resource
Centers
and
overflow.
The
hrcs
are
about
what
they
were
last
the
last
two
to
three
weeks.
The
flex
beds,
however,
have
gone
up
to
81
percent
occupancy
per
night
on
average
Mill
Creek
has
also
gone
up
to
82
on
average,
and
since
since
the
Paul
overflow
continues
to
run
very
high,
you
can
see
almost
100
every
night.
Next
slide.
K
I'll
also
say
that
the
additional
capacity
of
the
mayor
opened
up
in
her
order
a
few
weeks
ago,
has
not
been
utilized
to
the
Resource
Centers,
mostly
due
to
Staffing
and
obviously
there's
still
some
capacity
opportunities
in
existing
beds,
but
that
is
still
in
place
for
those
those
locations.
K
A
Thank
you
to
the
administration,
so
we're
moving
right
along.
Oh
thank
you.
I'll
speak
right
into
this.
We
are
on
item
number
two.
Do
we
I
don't
see
Chief
Lieb
here,
but
Chief
Bowden
is
here
is
Chief?
Are
we
waiting
for
chiefly
still
okay?
We
are
running
fast
today.
Carlton.
Is
your
team?
How
many
more
people
from
your
team
are?
We.
A
Are
you
okay
to
do
that?
Okay,
great,
we'll
jump
to
item
number
three,
then,
while
we
wait
for
chief
Lieb
thanks
Carlton
for
being
here
early,
this
is
an
informational
item
on
the
UTA
West
Side,
on-demand
pilot
program
update
and
we
have
Carlton
Christian
the
chair
of
the
UK
Board
of
Trustees
and
then
I'm.
Sorry,
this
is
a
J.
L
M
You
want
to
start
Ben
I've
got
a
quick
introduction.
Mr
chair,
the
next
three
briefings
are
all
from
the
Utah
Transit
Authority
UTA.
M
They
go
from
a
specific
topic,
the
west
side
on
demand
pilot
program
to
the
broader
topics,
about
long-range
planning
and
in
a
moment,
I'll
pass
out
a
handout
which
is
the
service
area
map
for
the
West
Side,
on-demand
pilot
program,
the
zero
Fair
Transit
study.
This
is
not
necessarily
recommending
a
specific
course
of
action,
but
laying
out
a
variety
of
options.
Whether
zero
fare
would
be
done
by
certain
modes
of
transit
in
certain
areas
or
across
the
entire
service
system,
and
the
last
briefing
the
transit
planning
note.
M
There
are
two
different
plans:
there's
a
five-year
service
plan
and
then
a
longer
30-year
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
it's
one
briefing,
but
there
are
two
different
time
frames
that
are
being
looked
at
and
there
are
three
separate
PDFs,
a
presentation
one
for
each
and
that's
in
the
public
packet
today.
L
Well,
thank
you.
This
is
like
a
Deja
Vu
moment,
somehow
a
somehow
of
vision
being
in
this
room
somewhere
in
the
past.
So
but
it's
nice
to
be
with
you,
I
thought
as
an
introduction
that
I
would
just
give
our
actually
one
year
today,
Jay
Fox
started
as
our
executive
director
and.
L
Be
we
have
a
little
bit
of
flexibility,
particularly
in
this
presentation
that
I
thought
it
might
be
a
good
opportunity
for
Jay
to
introduce
himself
to
the
council
and
and
some
of
his
background
and
his
approach
and
why
he
felt
possessed
to
come
to
UTA
and
and
say
yes
to
our
offer
and
and
then
I'll
be
happy
to
get
into
the
presentation.
So.
O
A
O
So
yeah
all
right,
just
a
little
history
about
me
and
then
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today.
I
my
Transit
background
dates
back
to
the
U.S
Department
of
Transportation
I
worked
there
for
15
years
and
and
the
last
eight
of
those
were
at
the
Federal
Transit
Administration.
O
So
I
worked
and
lived
almost
exclusively
in
Philadelphia
and
ultimately
went
to
work
for
Amtrak
was
responsible
for
contract
operations
for
our
national
network,
which
included
the
California
Zephyr
that
comes
through
Salt
Lake
City
at
hours,
where
most
people
normally
don't
board
it.
O
But
I
did
recently
yeah
to
go
to
California,
so
it
was
nice
being
on
there
and
then
after
Amtrak
I
went
to
SEPTA
SEPTA
as
the
regional
Transit
provider
for
Philadelphia
very
large
system,
300
million
Riders
pre-covered,
eight
Commuter
Rail
lines,
so
that
was
a
wonderful
experience
to
work
for
them
and
then,
as
Carlton
said,
you
know,
I
got
a
chance
to
to
come
visit
here.
I
really
was
very
appreciative
of
the
opportunity.
O
It
was
wonderful
spending
time
with
the
trustees
during
the
interview
process
and
and
getting
on
the
same
page
and
and
and
then
you
know
coming
into
this
year,
delivering
on
something
which
was
very
important
to
me,
which
was
prioritizing
operations
we
in
transit
in
the
transit
world.
We
talk
a
lot
about
our
Capital
Improvements,
but
none
of
that
means
anything
if
you
don't
have
the
the
bus
operators
and
the
mechanics-
and
you
know
all
those
people
that
are
necessary
to
move
forward.
O
So
I
I
asked
everybody
at
at
the
Utah
Transit
Authority
to
see
themselves
either
in
operations
or
in
operation.
Support
that
we're
all
part
of
the
same
team,
we're
one
UTA
and
that
focus
and
that
culture
is
something
that
I
personally
worked
very
hard
to
build
and
I
think
is
embodied
in
many
ways
in
in
our
new
strategic
plan
and
objectives,
particularly
in
our
very
very
succinct,
I
think,
but
very
important
new
Mission,
which
is
we
move
you
so
you
know
I.
It's
been.
O
It's
been
a
great
experience
this
last
year,
I've
really
appreciated
all
the
support,
I've
gotten,
both
from
the
Board
of
Trustees,
as
well
as
the
employees
and
my
executive
team
and
and
I
certainly-
and
it's
been
wonderful
working
with
with
the
executive
team
here
in
City
Hall
and
with
the
mayor
and
and
the
transportation
staff.
So
so
thank
you
for
that
opportunity
as
well.
L
L
What
is
a
wonderful
Transit
plan
that
the
council
adopted
a
few
years
ago
and,
and
it
has
helped
guide
us
as
we've
looked
at
service
and
as
we've
looked
at
these
Partnerships
and
how
that's
affected
so
if
I
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
our
on
demand
and
in
the
particularly
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake's
City.
L
If
you
have
not
used
this
service
it,
we
have
a
separate
app
called
UT
on
demand
and
it
works
a
little
bit
very
similarly
to
a
ride
hailing
service.
You
indicate
where
you
are
and
and
then
your
destination
and
it
lines
up
a
van.
We.
L
This
is
a
third
party
service
that
we
provide
through
a
company
called
via
and
and
this
service
has
been
was
deployed
originally
in
the
South
End
of
the
Salt
Lake
Valley,
and
is
going
quite
well
there,
but
as
I'll
show
you
in
a
few
slides,
it's
gone
exceptionally
well
here
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
geographic
area
and
the
population
differences
with
that.
That
service
tends
to
called
to
assimilate
writers.
L
So
in
the
ideal
circumstance
you'd
have
at
least
three
writers
on
there,
but
it
also
allows
for
greater
Mobility
for
those
with
limitations
that
are
looking
for
some
kind
of
assisted
transportation
that
maybe
wouldn't
normally
beyond
our
Paratransit
service
or
but
would
but
would
want
or
need
a
ramp
deployment
on
a
on
a
on
a
bus.
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,.
L
Just
some
service
updates
here
and
I'll
just
quickly
go
through
some
of
these
statistics.
This
is
since
the
service
began
in
November
of
20
I,
think
I
want
to
say
21,
but
in
the
in
the
last
few
months
we
have
20
over
2600
unique
writers.
The
average
monthly
growth
rate,
which
has
been
the
challenge
for
us,
is
28.
L
This
is
well
beyond
what
we
ever
forecasted
and
and
what
our
agreement
has
called
for
and
as
a
consequence,
what
you'll
experience
and
I'll
show
that
a
little
bit
in
the
slides
to
come
is
that
at
certain
peak
times
you
get
an
unavailable
response
in
the
app
and,
and
so
that
is
a
challenge
if,
especially,
if
you're
heavily
dependent
upon
that
ride
and
timing
of
which
you've
requested
that
it's
made
the
average
cost
per
Rider
at
18,
which
actually
is
a
for
this
particular
service.
L
It's
definitely
not
our
cheapest
service,
but
but
that's
a
very
competitive
rate
for
on-demand
type
service
and
and
and
the
and
obviously
the
more
Riders
of
Anne
carries
and
and
the
more
riders
in
a
particular
block
of
time,
the
more
cost
efficient.
It
is
for
us.
L
Some
of
the
things
that
we
have
added
is
that
we've
upfitted
a
wheelchair,
accessible
vehicles
to
side
loading
Vans.
If
you
watched
in
the
early
days
of
our
service,
we
we
used
a
Mercedes-Benz
fan
and
the
loading
was
in
the
very
rear
of
the
vehicle.
It
wasn't
a
great
place
if
you
were
the
one
being
loaded
in
that
it's
you.
B
L
Know
it
basically
puts
you
in
the
back
of
the
van.
It
also
was
a
little
more
problematic
in
in
loading
the
passenger,
and
so
as
we've
switched
to
a
Toyota
vans
that
are
contracted
by
our
provider,
they've
gone
to
side
loading
Vans,
and
that
has
just
been
a
much
better
experience
and
for
those
of
us
who
are
a
little
on
the
tall
side,
it's
a
wonderful
experience,
because
when
you
take
the
service,
you
have
lots
of
a
leg
room
as
a
consequence.
L
L
This
is
a
a
grocery
showing
in
the
as
you
can
see
the
rate
of
growth
of
the
total
ridership
and
what
I
would
point
out
in
the
last
few
months
and
from
mid-summer
on
is
the
unavailable
ride
portion
and
that
continues
to
grow
there.
L
You
can
see
the
overall
ridership
listed
there
since
we
commence,
but
the
the
one
thing
I
will
point
out
and
it's
been
an
interesting
Challenge
and
it's
a
good
problem
to
have.
But
since
we
extended
through
your
partnership
with
the
Salt
Lake,
City
School
District
passes
to
all
high
school
students.
The
most
astute
ridership
group
that
you
could
know
high
school
students
have
figured
out
that
UT
On
Demand
is
a
great
way
to
get
to
West,
High
School,
and
so
that
is
when
we
show
the
destinations.
L
You'll,
see
a
high
number
of
students
who
are
figuring
out
how
to
get
to
high
school
and
and
probably
a
lot
of
parents
that
are
more
than
willing
to
let
their
student
get
to
school.
That
direction
and,
and
that's
a
good
problem
to
have
in
many
ways,
because
with
our
average
ridership
being
age
34.
Having
that
a
particular
age
segment
have
Transit
become
an
intrinsic
part
of
how
they
get
around
and
how
they
learn
how
to
get
around
unless
you're
a
parent
trying
to
get
them
to
get
their
driver's
license.
L
We
do
this
comparison
to
our
other.
We
now
in
the
August
change
day,
we
have
expanded
our
on-demand
Zone
to
two
other
locations.
In
addition
to
we
have
it
in
Tooele
County,
which
is
working
actually
quite
well.
We've
done
it
in
South,
Davis
County,
which
is
continuing
to
grow
and
and
residents.
L
There
are
liking
that
service
over
some
fixed
route,
busing
that
was
discontinued
and
then
in
the
South
End
of
Salt
Lake
County,
the
south
end
of
Salt
Lake
County,
takes
into
account
a
good
part
of
South
Jordan,
Harriman,
Riverton,
Bluffdale
and
and
Draper,
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
distance
criteria
of
15
square
miles
in
in
Salt,
Lake,
West,
Side
versus
72
and
then
the
southern
part
of
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
60
000
people
compared
to
250
000
people
and
only
38
000
jobs
can
compared
to
122
000
places
of
employment.
L
When
you
look
at
the
rate
of
growth
of
the
West
Side
on-demand
service,
in
contrast
to
something
that's
been
running,
albeit
in
a
couple
coveted
years
but
late
2019,
the
rate
of
growth
in
which
you
see
happening
in
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake
City
is
outstanding,
is
astounding,
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why,
in
the
original
agreement,
the
estimates
we
thought
were
fairly
conservative
and
and
reasonable
in
our
approach
about
how
that
service
was
looked
at
next
slide.
L
We
do
this
to
give
some
idea
of
you
know
where
those
routes
go.
I,
remember
getting
on
UT
on
demand
in
on
on
North
Temple
down
near
the
1950,
West
and
I
was
joined
by
a
resident
who
worked
at
the
State
Office
Building
and
that's
how
they
got
to
work
and
so
I
I
think
you,
you
know,
the
state
has
a
number
of
complexes
down.
There
I
think
there
one
again
one
of
the
high
users
and
you
see
that
in
the
in
the
destination
location.
L
But
this
just
gives
you
an
item
for
two
years:
I
had
some
service
missionaries
living
with
us
and
they
went
to
Church
Headquarters
and
but
they
had
to
go
to
the
arena
station
to
get
on
light
rail
to
go
the
remaining
distance
and-
and
so
you,
you
see
these
in
the
location
again,
the
most
common
destinations
being
in
the
arena
station
in
West,
High,
School,
North,
Temple,
Station
and
then
certainly
Salt,
Lake
Central
or
the
North
Temple
Station
to
connect
to
front
runner
and
then
the
1940,
which
gets
you
down
near
the
state.
L
L
The
obviously
the
top
of
the
bar
is
what
we're
now
projecting
is
the
demand
and
then
the
plan
that
we
have
is
the
the
blue
lines
and
so
I
I
think
what
you'll
see
in
the
next
coming
months
is
you'll,
see
an
increase
decline
of
availability
and
we'll
continue
to
provide
the
service
is
currently
funded
and,
and
we'll
do
our
best
actually
to
encourage.
You
know
some
of
those
entrepreneurial
high
school
students
to
get
on
the
209
and,
and
our
hope
is
to
increase
the
frequency
of
that.
L
That's
the
fixed
route,
buses
that
go
up
six
North
and
those
sir
and
you'll
see
in
a
later
presentation.
Those
are
doing
quite
well
in
Route
1,
which
is
a
new
line,
and
so
we'll
try
and
encourage
some
of
that
ridership
to
shift
to
some
fixed
route
buses,
but
I
I
do
think
you'll
see
some
gaps
happen
in
the
in
the
next
few
months
and
the
next
slide.
Please
questions
that
we
can
respond
to
or
concerns
or.
A
Thank
you,
Carlton.
Council
members,
you
have
any
questions.
G
Council,
member
Dugan
yeah
a
couple
questions
thanks
a
lot
Carlton
and
Mr
Fox.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
this
and
I'm
excited
about
this
program
and
and
how
well
it's
doing
you
know.
Success
also
brings
all
those
additional
issues,
but
it's
wonderful
to
have
these
couple
just
first
on
just
the
financial
side
that
you
said,
18
per
Rider
is
who's
paying
that
18
Salt
Lake
city
is
Salt.
Lake
City
is,
and
is
that
price
or
cost
going
down,
because
the
ridership
is
going
up.
L
The
contract
is
for
a
full
amount.
The
per
Rider
cost
is
just
a
it's
just
a
an
algebraic
outcome
of
of
taking
the
total
cost
divided
by
the
number
of
riders.
Okay,.
G
G
More
efficient
way
to
right,
more
efficient
on
that
side,
house
and
and
the
average
distance
riderships.
Are
they
it's
first
Last
Mile,
but
it's
what's
a?
How
far
is
it.
L
Okay
I,
my
my
experience.
Very
few
people
are
going
the
full
distance
of
the
West
side.
You
know
you're,
usually
trying
to
connect
either
to
our
system
or
to
a
you
know,
to
a
West,
High
School.
So
I
would
guess
that
most
rides
are
within
two
to
two
and
a
half
miles
at
the
most
okay.
G
Q
Q
L
A
regular
bus
and
I
will
I'll
say
as
we
look
at
our
system
where
we
have
found
the
on-demand
model
to
work.
The
most
efficient
is
that
you
have
either
Geographics
or
neighborhood
spacing
that
are
not
very
conducive
to
fixed
route
busing
and
it
also
generally
from
an
economic
standpoint.
It's
worked
out
better
if
it's
replaced
some
poor
performing
fixed
route
buses
and
so
in
the
South
End
of
Salt
Lake
Valley.
That
certainly
was
the
case.
L
It
cost
us
more
to
provide
the
current
on-demand
service,
but
the
residents
there,
the
ridership
is,
you
know,
went
from
Maybe
250
a
day.
Eric
remind
me,
the
jump,
seven.
L
L
A
L
It
went
the
fixed
route
old,
fixed
route
bussing
before
we
went
to
the
on-demand
model,
was
a
little
over
200
a
day
and
and
to
be
honest,
it
wasn't
very
efficient.
We
were
trying
to
provide
some
level
of
coverage
to
have
to
communities
frankly
that
are
built
to
a
very
Suburban
standard,
and
so
it
wasn't
a
very
good
service.
There.
N
L
We
added
this
that
ridership
as
Eric
commented,
has
gone
to
7
800
to
even
900
a
day
and
and
the
residents
there
are
served.
It
doesn't
pick
you
up
at
your
doorstep.
You
have
to
walk
down
to
the
corner
and
it
doesn't
always
leave
you.
You
know
at
your
doorstep,
but
it's
a
short
walk
and
and
and
in
those
Suburban
type
or
a
very
difficult
Geographic
communities.
It
works
very.
It's
a
very
efficient
model.
L
Thank
you,
I
was
close.
2.8
miles
is
the
average
trip
length.
G
G
L
Well,
in
a
later
presentation,
Eric
Kelson
and
some
others
will
go
through
those
ridership
and
how
those
fixed
are
out
are
doing.
I
would
say
overall
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
our
our
Transit
ridership
continues
to
grow
in
a
in.
G
N
G
The
idea
is
for
the
2017
plan.
Sorry
is
the
when
it.
When
are
we
thinking
of
instituting
it
in
on
the
east
side
and
down
the
other
areas,
because
this
was
going
to
be
a
two-year
pilot
or
was
it
a
did?
We
did
we
specify
that
from
a
couple
years
ago,
do
we
know
I'm.
B
Q
A
number
of
years
for
the
pilot,
but
I
I,
think
we
thought
my
understanding
was.
You
know
at
least
two
years
and
then
kind
of
evaluate
after
that,
the
the
challenge
with
talking
about
expansion
is
I,
don't
think
we
know
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
to
operate
just
this
section,
because
the
really
the
only
constraint
right
now
is
that
we
don't
it
it's
underfunded.
Q
Basically,
for
the
demand
we
have,
which
we
didn't
realize,
that
that
was
that
would
be
is
wildly
popular
as
it
is,
and
so
now
we're
turning
away
rides
because
we
just
don't.
We
can't
afford
to
run
more
service,
and
so
we
don't
know
where
the
upper
cap
is
on.
As
far
as
like
the
natural
demand
for
this
service,
and
so
that
makes
it
hard
for
us
to
be
able
to
know
what
it
would
cost
to
expand
the
service
elsewhere,
and
so
we
would
recommend
figuring
out.
Q
S
L
Municipal
fundings
they're
separate:
we
only
use
the
south
end
of
the
county
as
a
comparison.
Salt
Lake
city
funding
doesn't
apply
to
that
at
all.
It's
funded
through
UTA.
L
General
sales
tax
and
fee
Revenue
there
we
charge
the
same
standard,
UTA
fee
fare
of
250..
If
you
happen
to
have
one
of
our
Eco
pass
or
Ed
pass
programs,
it
would
just
be
included
in
those
services.
So.
S
L
O
The
other
point
to
be
made
for
the
South
Salt
Lake
County,
is
that
we
actually
see
service
on
flex
and
actually
before
that
on
on
fixed
route.
In
order
to
put
in
this
and
put
in
our
on-demand
service
down
there,
because
the
coverage
that
was
afforded
for
that
area
was,
you
know
greatly
improved
over
the
flex
route
service
that
we
had
so
so
that
it's
important
to
recognize
that
we
essentially
shifted
funds
from
that
Flex
route
service
to
On
Demand.
It's.
S
H
H
Thank
you
I,
so
I
have
two
quick
questions.
One
of
them
relates
to
the
amount
of
unavailable
calls,
or
you
know
it
seemed
significant
I
know
that
I
mean
I,
couldn't
really
calculate
this.
It
seems
significant,
so
you
were
talking
about
800,
maybe
some
days
900,
you
know
possible
riders
in
the
district,
we're
talking
about
maybe
100
more
a
couple.
L
Hundred
no,
not
quite
that
high.
Typically,
we
would
look
at
about
a
in
a
normal
programming
about
a
four
percent
failure
rate.
So,
okay
and
we
we
know,
even
in
our
best
scenarios,
we're
not
going
to
hit
every
single
call
and-
and-
and
you
know,
if
you
happen
to
delay
sort
of
requesting
the
thing
and-
and
you
hit
the
peak
time,
you
run
that
risk
of
of
doing
that.
L
We
we
have
had
some
rejection
rate
as
high
as
10,
but
it's
generally
been
more
in
the
in
the
around
the
eight
percent
category.
At
times
it
hasn't
hit
that
yet,
but
that's
our
concern
going
into
the
lat
you
know
the
first
half
of
2023
is
is
where
that
sort
of
failure
rate
will
go
today.
L
I
would
say
it's
still
in
that
four
to
five
percent
range,
but
it's
possible
depending
on
where
ridership
goes,
that
residents
here
might
start
seeing
a
more
failure
rate,
as
you
know,
especially
during
the
peak
times
so.
H
And
is
this
failure
rate
comparable
in
other
parts
of
the
valley?
You
know
in
the
southern
part
of
the
valley
too
or.
H
And
just
I
guess
this
is
the
second
part
of
my
question
just
to
further
clarify
one
of
the
questions
that
councilmember
petrochler
asked
for.
For
my
sake,
so
we
as
Alex
city,
is
contributing
for
this
project
to
happen,
and
it's
fantastic
I
heard
many
people
liking
this.
So
you
know,
I
have
very
many
happy
residents
now
you're
saying
that
some
of
the
municipalities
down
south
are
not
contributing
to
these
programs.
L
L
A
Are
do
we
have
any
other
questions
from
Council
Members?
We
have
like.
G
Maybe
this
operational
side
of
the
house
I
mean
we.
These
are
all
hybrid
fans
where
they're-
and
this
is
a
third
party
operation,
so
they're
not
using
electric
vans
or
anything
else
in
that.
L
Nature,
we're
not
currently
using
electric
bands,
we're
certainly
taking
a
look
at
it.
We
have
electric
vans
on
order
for
our
Tooele
Valley
service,
we're
actually
waiting
for
delivery
of
those
fans,
and
so
it's
that
would
be
a
new
Arena
when
we're
definitely
looking
at
and
and
I
think
in
the
long
range
we
would
like
to
go
to
it,
but
not
operational.
Today,.
Q
I
will
add
so
we
just
built
in
in
cooperation
with
UTA
a
new
bus
hub
at
Orange
Street,
where
we
call
the
Orange
Street
bus
triangle,
where
Orange
Street,
4th
South
and
fifth
South
all
meet
up
right
in
front
of
the
parks
and
public
lands
headquarters,
and
that
has
charging
capabilities
for
both
buses.
And
this
is
where
the
on-demand
shuttles
will.
Our
vans
will
kind
of
sit
overnight
and
it's
it's
like
EV
ready.
Q
So
once
the
the
vehicles
and
kind
of
the
fleet
can
catch
up,
then
that
Hub
will
be
a
place
where
they
can
charge.
So
we're
already
planning
ahead.
For
that.
A
All
right,
council
members,
are
we
good
on
this
item?
Thank
you,
Carlton
and
Jay
and
John.
We
are
to
be
respectful
of
the
fire
department's
time.
We're
going
to
go
back
to
the
item
that
we
skipped
so
that
they
don't
have
to
wait,
which
is
item
number
two:
the
SLC
Emergency
Management
update,
2023
and
looks
like
we
have
at
the
table.
Chief
leave
and
chief
Bowden.
T
T
Oh
two:
it's
pretty
cool
we're
here
to
give
you
an
overview
of
what's
been
up
with
your
emergency
management
team
over
the
past
year,
to
say
the
least:
it's
a
lot,
so
we
have
a
small
slide
presentation
when
I,
when
I
mean
small
I
mean
we're
almost
a
quarter
of
the
way
through
it
already
next
slide,
please
we're
going
to
go
over
a
little
bit
of
General
overview
of
what
the
division
has
been
up
to
I'm,
going
to
give
some
time
to
Chief
Bowden
she's,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
about
the
Staffing,
the
current
Staffing
of
the
Emergency
Management
division,
which
is
to
a
point
now
that
it's
never
been
that's
a
good
thing,
and
then
we
could
do
a
little
bit
of
review
about
activation
levels.
T
We'll
give
you
some
examples
of
of
some
incidents
that
we
have
had
and
what
activation
level
they
were.
They
were
at.
We
have
some
I,
wouldn't
say
swag,
let's
say
operational
Necessities
for
the
council
members
this
evening,
so
you
can
operate
on
scene.
If
you
feel
the
need
to
to
go
down
and
see
what's
going
on,
which
you
have
you're
you're,
more
than
welcome
to
do
so
and
we'll
give
you
some
insight
into
how
to
get
some
information
and
how
to
find
out
what's
happening.
T
Okay,
so
next
side,
please
start
with
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
go
through
some
of
these,
these
accomplishments
and
accomplishments,
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
in
progress
right
now
with
Emergency
Management
to
start
with,
we
are
fully
staffed,
as
I
mentioned,
and
we
now
have
10
individuals,
including
an
office
facilitator.
This
has
never
been
the
case
with
Emergency
Management.
The
city
has
historically
tried
to
perform
this
function
with
well,
six
members,
six
or
six
members,
probably
optimally
over
the
past
few
years.
T
Number
two
new
firewise
community,
in
partnership
with
greater
Avenues
Community
Council,
a
firewise
community,
is
a
community
that
has
adopted
all
the
Necessities
to
create
defensible
space,
to
have
some
knowledge
about
Urban
interface
wildfires
and
to
protect
their
neighborhoods
and
their
Community
against
that
risk.
So
we're
happy
to
have
that
we
hope
to
spread
that
program.
T
Third,
opt-in,
emergency
notification
system
is
operational.
Rave
is
probably
the
initial
step
for
communicating
with
our
with
our
public
and
our
residents
and
our
employees
throughout
the
city.
It
is
an
opt-in
option,
so
if
they
don't
want
to
be
notified,
they
will
not
be
notified
through
Rave.
We
recommend
it
to
everyone.
People
want
more
information.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
get
it.
T
The
fourth
Bullet
at
emergency
management
info
to
Salt,
Lake,
City,
new
employee
orientation,
members
of
Chief,
bulletin's
team
and
Emergency
Management,
are
now
meeting
with
new
employees.
They
talk
about
the
city's
structure
for
Emergency
Management.
They
also
talk
about
resiliency
personal
packages.
You
know
72-hour
kits,
which
have
now
become
96
hour
kits,
which
are
soon
to
be
120
hour
kits.
So
that's
where
we
start.
We
start
talking
to
our
employees
about
what
they
need
to
be
thinking
about
next
cert
offerings
in
English
and
Spanish
Community
Emergency,
Response
Team.
T
These
are
the
people
in
our
community
that
want
to
help.
We
want
to
give
them
the
means,
the
education,
the
training
to
be
useful
to
the
fire
department
or
the
police
department,
quite
honestly,
on
the
scene
of
an
emergency.
If
we
have
people
that
are
willing
to
partake
in
it
and
willing
to
give
their
time,
we
think
we
can
utilize
those
residents.
We
just
want
to
do
it
safely
and
effectively.
T
Next
Texas
A,
M,
Engineering
extension
service
training
for
Public
Utilities
regarding
Water
and
Wastewater
management.
This
is
training
available
to
All
City
departments
and
normally
that
would
come
through
Emergency
Management
division
with
any
any
within
any
municipality.
Public
Utilities
I
think
has
been
the
latest
to
request
this
training
and
we
have
been
coordinating
with
them
to
provide
it
and
I
think
it's
very
valuable
for
for
Laura
briefer
and
her
team.
T
Full-Scale
exercises
Emergency
Management
wants
to
conduct
two
large
full-scale
exercises
this
year,
one
involving
the
public
component.
So
that
is
not
unusual
for
an
emergency
management
team,
but
the
exercises
are
quite
extensive
and
it
takes
they're
time
consuming
and
their
resource
intensive
as
well.
So
it's
good
to
have
the
people
that
we
have
in
the
division
right
now
to
conduct
these
exercises.
T
T
Next
monthly
meeting
to
develop
Wildland,
Urban
interface,
wui
evacuation
plans
will
be
sure
for
wild
down
Urban
interface,
the
more
we
can
prepare
for
an
urban
interface
Wildland
incident.
The
better
and
evacuation
plans
are
fundamental
to
a
good,
a
good
plan
to
save
lives
and
reduce
injuries,
continued
Division
division,
trainings
and
Coupe
planning,
Coop
continuity
of
operations.
T
Every
Department
in
the
city
should
have
a
coupe
plan.
At
this
point,
virtually
every
Department
in
the
city
does
have
a
coupe
plan.
If
they
do
not
have
a
coup
plan,
Emergency
Management
is
working
with
them
individually
and
literally,
we
will
guide
them
hand,
hold
them
right
through
the
development
of
a
plan,
because
we
need
to
have
those
and
the
emergency
management
team
needs
to
have
those
all
on
file.
T
Lastly,
maximizing
Current,
public
safety
building
office
space
to
accommodate
increased
staff
with
the
support
of
the
mayor's
office
and
the
support
of
the
council.
Thank
you.
We
are
building
out
a
rooms
within
the
public
safety
building
on
the
third
floor
that
accommodates
a
10-person,
fully
staffed
emergency
management
team
and
they
are
all
together,
they're
not
fragmented
throughout
the
building,
which
obviously
makes
for
a
a
more
effective
team,
and
certainly
the
communication
is
much
better
within
the
within
the
Emergency
Management
and
with
the
other
Public
Safety
entities
in
the
building.
T
So
we're
really
pleased
that
that's
coming
along
should
be
completed
by
probably
summer
of
this
year.
The
way
things
go
with
that
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
Chief,
Bud,
Bowden,
Emergency,
Management,
Chief
and
we'll
let
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
Staffing
that
you
have
now
great.
Thank.
U
You
thank
you,
council
members,
our
current
Staffing,
as
Chief
leap
said:
we've
gone
up
to
10
at
this
point
with
me,
acting
as
the
emergency
manager,
an
office
facilitator,
and
then
we
separate
from
there
into
an
operations,
and
we
can
have
that
next
slide.
We
have
an
operation
section
as
well
as
a
planning
section.
Those
are
both
led
by
captains
sworn
personnel
from
the
fire
department,
with
Captain
Simons
really
being
over.
The
we
have
in
the
past
called
it.
U
The
Emergency
Operations
Center
we're
calling
that
the
emergency
coordination
center
now
because
we're
more
coordinating
the
effort
versus
the
command
portion
of
it
with
him.
He
has
three
people
under
him
that
work
with
the
training
coordinator,
Eric,
who,
if
you've
melt,
met
over
years
past
and
Eric,
is
helping
to
coordinate
those
management,
343
training
that
Chief
leap
talked
about
and
other
ICS
training
for
the
Departments,
with
10
Wilcox
being
our
Logistics.
U
Who
takes
care
of
anything
that
may
come
up
communications
unit
food
unit,
those
types
of
things
if
we
have
an
activation
Hannah
Ewell,
who
is
our
most
recent
hire
Hannah
Hannah,
is
coming
to
us
from
Las
Vegas,
where
she
worked
at
one
of
the
major
hotels
Resorts
down
there
in
Emergency
Management,
and
she
is
working
with
our
Pao
and
Jack,
making
sure
that
that
we
get
that
joint
information
out
similar
to
when
we
had
the
Mercury
scare
in
the
pond.
Everything
was
goes
through.
U
The
jig
in
that
instance,
so
Hannah's
she's
got
a
lot
of
things
to
grow
on
that
and
she'll
do
a
wonderful
on
the
other
side
of
the
house,
with
planning
they're
really
looking
at
our
our
community
emergency.
Excuse
me,
our
comprehensive
emergency
management
plan,
which
replaces
the
Emergency
Operations
plan,
which
will
be
getting
out
to
you
once
that's
done.
It's
in
rough
draft
form.
N
U
And
we've
got
a
couple
of
annexes
that'll
go
with
it.
This
is
to
go
in
line
with,
what's
occurring
really
within
the
county
as
well,
so
that
everybody
are
very
close
to
marriage
each
other
summer
who
Chief
leave
talked
about
with
assert
assert,
had
been
down
for
quite
some
time
with
covid
we've
had
our
first
class
and
then
we
have
the
other
two
classes
coming
up
in
January.
Summer
is
taking
the
lead
on
that
and
coordinating
our
bow
at
as
well.
U
The
volunteer
organizations
active
in
disasters,
ham,
radio,
Etc
and
then
Brian
Leftwich,
who
is
a
law
enforcement
officer
with
the
fire
department,
and
he
does
some
of
the
planning
puts
together
the
IEPs
that
you've
been
seeing,
as
well
as
coordinating
the
intelligence
portion
of
it
for
our
division
as
well.
So
next
slide.
U
I'm
here
with
our
activation
levels,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
covered
that
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
doing
what
those
activation
levels
mean.
I
know
we've
gone
over
this
before,
but
in
want
to
make
sure
we're
reiterate
that,
so
you
know
when
you'll
get
notified
and
what
those
mean
generally
on
a
normal
day-to-day
we're
in
that
green
or
level.
Five
moving
up
to
a
level
four
which
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
in.
We
don't
generally
make
a
notification
when
we
step
to
that
level.
U
Four,
but
that's
really
when
we
become
aware
of
an
incident,
maybe
that's
occurring
within
the
city
or
even
outside
of
the
city,
the
National
Weather
Service,
when
we
have
the
major
storm
warnings
that
come
in
it
moves
us
into
that
level.
Four,
so
we
can
kind
of
start
watching
and
not
get
caught
off
guard
like
has
occurred
in
other
cities,
Across
the
Nation.
Recently
we
want
to
be
aware
of
that
and
make
sure
they're
communicating
that
information
out
to
the
other
departments
in
our
stakeholders
so
that
they
can
be
better
prepared
level
three.
U
This
is
where
you
start
getting
to
that,
where
you
may
be
notified
as
the
council
members
that
we've
stepped
to
that
level
and
what's
occurring
so
you'll,
get
a
generally
a
situation
brief
around
that
time
as
well.
We
spend
some
time
in
that
level,
three
right
now
with
the
NBA
All-Star
stuff,
coming
up
in
February
we're
sitting
in
that
level.
Four
right
now
level.
Three
we
do
have
some
partial
activation.
U
We
will
go
to
probably
a
level
two
once
that
takes
place
in
February,
so
I'll
have
a
lot
more
staff
in
the
ECC
will
be
stood
up
and
you'll
be
saving
situation.
Briefs
on
that
as
things
occur.
Hopefully
everything
stays
nice
and
calm
and
quiet
and
your
situation
briefs
will
be
very
boring
so
level.
One
is
really
when
we
have
that
large-scale
disaster,
whether
man-made
or
natural,
and
you
will
definitely
be
notified.
U
And
we
will
need
your
assistance
at
that
point
and
that's
where
we
start
looking
at
emergency
declarations
from
the
mayor's
office
and
then
looking
for
your
support
in
that
as
we
suspend
something
so
that
we
can
take
care
of
the
city
and
get
us
back
to
business
and
take
care
of
our
residents.
So
if
we
can
have
the
next
slide.
U
U
So
we
actually
brought
in
cots
with
red
cross
and
really
it
was
a
great
coordinated
effort
working
with
public
services,
parks
and
public
lands
as
well
and
getting
places
opened,
and
then
the
community
as
well
working
with
that
volunteer
organization's
active
in
disasters.
That
was
probably
our
large
goal
on
coating.
Some
meetings
as
well
with
that
to
make
sure
that
we
were
getting
the
best
information
out
that
we
could
to
the
residents
that
were
being
affected
and
being
evacuated
from
those
two
adjoining
buildings.
I-80
fire
again
same
thing.
U
This
one
was
Personnel,
did
come
in
just
to
monitor
that
situation,
because
the
impact
that
it
had
or
the
potential
impact
it
had
to
the
residents
or
to
the
businesses
in
the
area.
We
had
a
reported
possible
active
shooter
with
patients
down
at
West
High
at
one
point
where
we
started
to
activate
as
well
on
that
one,
but
that
one
fortunately
came
out
very
quickly
that
that
was
a
a
a
call
without
substance.
U
So
it
was
very
fortunate,
but
we
were
there
ready
to
act
if
needed
to
with
reunification
policy
group
briefings
which
would
be
part
of
those
as
well.
So
next
slide.
U
Chief
Lieb
talked
about
really
what
you're
going
to
receive
here,
and
this
is
to
really
help
you
when
you
come
to
a
scene,
if
you
do
like
the
Sugarhouse
fire,
if
you
come
up,
we
would
love
for
you
to
be
able
to
be
easily
and
readily
identified
if
we
have
a
collapse
or
if
we
have
evacuations
that
due
to
an
earthquake
or
anything
else,
we
want
to
be
able
to
tell
who's
coming
unseen.
U
Have
you
I
would
encourage
you
to
report
rather
than
just
walking
onto
the
scene,
due
to
your
safety,
this
great
white
helmet
that
I'm
going
to
give
you
as
well
as
a
vest,
is
not
going
to
protect
you
on
that
scene.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
somebody
with
you.
Keep
you
in
safe
areas,
so,
whether
it's
a
police
event,
a
fire
event
whatever
that
is
I,
would
encourage
you
to
check
in
with
incident
command.
U
They
will
assign
Somebody
To
You
to
escort
you
around
to
make
sure
that
you
stay
in
a
safe
environment.
We
keep
you
out
of
the
evacuation
zones
or
collapse
zones
that
we
had
in
Sugarhouse,
for
instance,
but
I'll
hand
those
out
to
you
and
I've
got
a
box
of
them
here
for
each
one
of
the
council
members
as
well
as
for
some
of
your
staff.
If
you
happen
to
have
them
come
with
you,
but
to
at
least
let
you
see
what
you've
got.
I've
got
council
member
Fowlers.
T
U
That
you
can
see
what's
in
there
and
there
is
a
name
here
as
well
on
each
one
of
them.
So
we'll
get
you
the
right
one,
so
really
quick,
nice
helmet
with
the
logo
for
the
city
on
it,
as
well
as
a
vest
with
again
your
name,
your
District,
your
name,
your
District.
So
if
you
need
anything
else,
please
let
us
know
and
I'm
happy
to
help
you
with
that.
T
S
Do
you
have
a
code
for
what
we're
expected
to
to
do,
especially
in
an
instance
where,
like
Communications
might
be
cut
off
like
if
we
did
have
a
big
earthquake?
S
U
Do
and
that's
part
of
the
the
semp,
the
comprehensive
emergency
management
plan
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
as
well
as
the
past
EOP
Emergency
Operations
plan
the
plan
for
the
council
at
this
time.
If
we
have
a
full
activation,
we'll
say
a
level
one
would
be
for
you
number
one
you'll
get
a
response:
you'll
get
a
notification
through
Rave,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
each
one
of
you
are
signed
up
through
Rave.
That
will
tell
you
where
to
go
just
in
case
right
now.
U
The
standard
is
for
the
council
to
respond
to
the
public
safety
building,
assuming
that
it's
okay
and
everything's
operational
and
to
report
to
actually
the
fire
chief's
conference
room
on
the
fourth
floor.
At
that
point,
that's
where
you'll
receive
your
briefing
and
what's
going
on?
The
first
thing,
though,
is
you
mentioned?
The
most
important
thing
is
to
make
sure
you
and
your
family
are
good
so
that
you
can
focus
on
the
jobs
that
you
need
to
do
once
you're
here.
B
A
Chief
leaving
Cheapo
thank
you
very
much
for
what
you
do
for
the
city,
keeping
us
safe
and
thanks
for
this
update
and
I
hope
we
don't
ever
have
to
use
those
hats,
but
I
guess
I'm
glad
we
have
them
in
case.
We
do.
A
You
thank
you
with
that.
We're
going
to
change
the
order
again,
a
little
bit.
Thank
you
to
everyone.
That's
here
for
the
UTA
items.
We
have
a
really
short
closed
session
that
we
need
to
go
into
and
we
need
to
do
that
before
we
lose
a
very
important
person
to
an
important
event.
So
if
we,
if
it's
all
right,
we're
going
to
enter
closed
session,
for
it
should
be
pretty
brief
and
we'll
do
that
real,
quick
and
then
come
right
back
to
the
UTA
items.
B
Chair
I
move
that
we
enter
into
closed
session
for
purposes
of
advice
of
counsel
and
disposition
of
real
property.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
from
councilmember
Fowler,
a
second
from
Council
member
valdemoros,
any
discussion,
I'll
roll
call,
this
councilmember
Dugan,
yes,
councilmember,
valdemaros,.
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A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience,
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
especially
everyone.
That's
here
in
person
apologize
for
that
for
those
scheduling
changes.
We
are
now
on
to
item
number
four,
which
is
another
UTA
item:
informational,
zero,
Fair,
Transit,
study,
update
and
discussion
at
the
table.
Julie
bjornstad,
Alex,
Bain
John
Larson
do
I.
Have
those
names
right.
V
V
V
So
this
study
built
off
of
the
2022
Fair
free
February
pilot.
We
saw
positive
outcomes
in
terms
of
increased
ridership,
customer
experience
and
and
safety,
and
the
question
that
therapy
February
posed
was
what
happens
if
this
was
to
be
a
permanent,
fair-free
system-wide.
And
so
this
study
aims
to
answer
that
question
in
terms
of
ridership
financial
implications,
implications
to
safety
security
as
well
as
Community
benefit
through
the
lens
of
a
data
formed
process
and.
W
And
one
thing
that
of
particular
interest
with
this
is
that
it
started
with
the
idea
that
they
would
end
with
recommendations
and,
as
we
worked
through
this,
it
ended
up
being
an
examination
of
trade-offs.
That
says,
if
you
do
this,
here's
you
know
what
what
good
things
might
happen.
Here's
things
that
we
need
to
be
cautious
about,
so
it
is
really
to
prepare
policy
makers
to
help
make
more
informed
decisions.
So
it's
it's
not
necessarily
a
recommendation
of
one
option
versus
another.
V
Yeah
next
slide,
so
why
would
we
look
at
fares
as
a
way
to
increase
ridership?
So
fares
represent
a
relatively
small
amount
of
the
revenue
that
UTA
receives.
You
can
see
in
the
graph
on
the
left
it's
about
five
percent
of
the
overall
uta's
budget
and
over
time
the
amount
that
fares
have
supported.
Operating
cost
has
has
been
declining
to
about
I.
Think
it's
about
nine
percent
and
now
in
the
2023
budget.
V
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
Salt
Lake
City
has
been
a
leader
and
Fair
free
Transit,
both
in
support
long,
the
long-term
support
of
the
downtown
Fair
free
zone,
but
as
well
as
being
a
key
sponsor
of
the
Fairfield
February
wfrc
was
as
well
and
in
addition,
Salt
Lake
City
has
also
actively
supported
UTA
with
funding
the
on-demand
on
the
west
side,
as
you
heard
earlier
today,
but
also
funding
the
fast
frequent
Network
so
more
frequent
service
later
evening,
service
I,
think
I'm
gonna,
add
there.
Okay.
V
So,
in
addition,
most
writers
on
the
system
do
not
pay
full
fare.
Less
than
half
of
the
writers
that
ride
Transit
today,
pay
that
full
fare
and
in
Salt
Lake
City.
There's
many
programs,
whether
you're
a
public
school
transit
pass
program
a
resident
through
the
hive
pass
an
employee,
a
University
of
Utah
student
or
a
client
of
our
human
service
agencies
are
receiving
some
type
of
fair
discount,
either
for
a
portion
of
the
transit
system
or
the
entire
transit
system
and
as
the
mother
of
a
kindergartner.
V
Thank
you
for
the
public
school
transit
pass
program.
W
V
So
then,
thinking
about
the
things
that
we
presented,
that
you
know
writer
fairs
our
small
portion
of
the
operating
budget.
A
lot
of
people
already
have
discounted
fares
and
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
thinking
about
what
a
fair
free
system
might
mean,
this
study
had
four
main
goals.
So
we
wanted
to
evaluate
the
operational
financial
and
Community
effects
of
zero
Fair
Transit.
V
So
this
study,
like
Alex,
mentioned
we
looked
at
four
Alternatives
one-
was
a
full
system-wide,
zero
fare
that
would
be
all
modes
in
all
areas
of
UTA
service.
The
second
would
be
a
zero
fare
on
bus,
only
so
bus
and
then
Paratransit
and
UT
on
demand.
The
third
alternative
was
Zero
fare
for
low
income
Riders
and
then
the
fourth
was
an
overall
reduction
of
the
base
fare
to
one
dollar.
Past
programs
and
other
discounted
fares
would
receive
about
a
60
reduction.
V
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
the
lenses
that
we
study
these
Alternatives
through,
whether
that
was
operational
in
terms
of
ridership
and
whether
UTA
had
the
ability
to
absorb
any
increase
in
ridership
financially.
What
was
the
trade-off
in
terms
of
the
revenue
that
was
being
brought
in
and
then
how
this
benefited?
The
community
economic,
the
economy,
Equity
sustainability?
V
So
essentially,
what
we
looked
at
was
the
projected
ridership
increases
across
the
modes,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
any
type
of
savings
that
UTA
would
receive
on
the
financial
side
and
then
any
type
of
projected
increases.
So
when
it
comes
to
what
Financial
savings
UTA
could
have
experienced,
one
was
less
operating
cost
due
to
faster
bus
service.
V
Our
analysis
showed
that
this
was
in
the
case
that
we
did
ex
most
and
Alternatives
didn't,
show
any
reduction
and,
and
then
the
system-wide
one
did
show
us
minor
reduction,
but
it
wasn't
sort
of
have
a
magnitude
that
would
produce
a
lot
of
savings.
What.
W
We
would
likely
experience
is
generally
slightly
faster
operations,
as
people
could
board
without
having
to
wait
for
everyone
to
pay
fares.
You
could
also
do
something
like
on
buses.
You
could
have
all
all
door
boarding.
Those
kind
of
things
could
increase
customer
satisfaction
in
terms
of
a
slightly
faster
trip,
and
you
know
reduce
wait
times,
but
probably
not
enough.
Savings
to
say
have
a
significant
impact
on
our
operations.
V
Where
UTA
would
experience
savings
is
on
the
fair
collection
equipment.
Uta
pays
Fair
collection
and
Equipment.
They
pay
for
someone
to
then
go
through
all
the
Affairs
and
all
of
that
costs
money.
So
we
we
would
benefit
from
both
short
and
long
term
from
not
needing
to
upgrade
Fair
collection
equipment
and
then
on
the
projected
cost
increases.
V
Of
course,
we
would
have
to
replace
the
fair
Revenue
that
we're
now
losing
there
may
be
over
capacity
on
certain
buses
and
trains
that
would
require
an
increase
service
cost
and
then
for
any
time
that
we're
improving
service
on
bus
routes.
We
have
to
do
a
similar
Improvement
on
the
Paratransit
system,
which
of
course
has
an
added
cost.
V
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
present
a
summary
of
the
four
Alternatives
in
terms
of
ridership
gains
and
and
financial
impact.
So,
on
the
far
left,
you'll
see
a
system-wide.
Here
we
were
expecting
gains
on
the
ridership
side
of
24
to
36
percent,
and
this
is
a
range
because
we're
basing
this
off
of
what
other
systems
have
seen
in
the
past,
and
then
this
would
come
at
a
cost
to
UTA
of
lost
revenue
and
increase
service
needs
on
the
Paratransit
side
of
30
to
35
million
dollars.
V
This,
you
may
be
wondering,
is
slightly
different
than
what
was
in
the
governor's
budget
for
his
one-year
pilot
and
that's
due
to
some
savings
that
we
would
get
on
the
fair
collection
side.
If
this
was
a
permanent
implementation
of
zero
fare
on
the
bus,
only
zero
fare,
we
see
ridership
gains
of
12
to
18
percent,
and
then
we
that
comes
at
a
cost
of
25
20.5
to
24.5
million
dollars.
So
fewer
the
cost
is
lower.
But
so
is
the
ridership
gain
that
we're
seeing
and
then
on
the
low
income,
zero
fare.
V
V
I'll
note
here,
one
of
the
reasons
we
don't
see
a
higher
gain
there
is
that
a
lot
of
low-income
writers
already
have
access
to
certain
passes,
and
this
requires
people
to
then
go
and
apply
for
that
and
so
there's
a
barrier
there
that
still
needs
to
be
overcome.
Unlike
a
system-wide,
zero,
fair
or
bus,
only
zero
Fair,
where
anyone
can
access
that
benefit.
Yeah.
W
Is
it
yeah,
as
Julie
pointed
out,
you
can
see
from
the
graphs
that
you
get
the
largest
impact,
much
more
significant.
If
you
do
system-wide,
because
anytime,
you
have
Fair
on
parts
of
the
system,
there's
still
that
barrier,
whether
it's
a
financial
barrier
or
just
not
knowing
what
the
fair
is
or
not
having
cash
with
you
so
and
as
as
Julie
pointed
out
with
the
low-income
Fair
program.
That
requires
a
lot
of
work.
Unless
you
want
to
make
it
very
very
easy.
W
V
And
then
for
the
one
dollar
base
fare,
we
would
see
about
a
10
increase
in
ridership
at
a
cost
of
about
9
million
and
the
bus.
Only
zero
Fair
low
income
zero
fare
in
the
one
dollar
base.
We
still
need
to
have
a
fair
collection
system,
so
we're
not
getting
those
realized
savings
that
you
would
have
on
a
system-wide
zero
fare
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
Mr.
H
Yeah,
so
if
can
we
go
back
to
the
previous
slide,
if
that's
okay,.
X
H
And
it's
mostly
to
help
me
remember
so
I
when
in
previous
slide
you
mentioned,
you
mentioned
the
different
scenarios.
You
know
system-wide
zero,
Fair
bus,
only
you
know
and
so
forth.
Why
is
not
I'm,
maybe
I
missed
this,
but
why
is
not
one
of
those
tracks
only
you
know,
because
you
have
bus
here
only
but
not
tracks.
Only
so.
W
There
are
a
number
of
you
know:
there
are
sort
of
Limitless
options
that
we
could
have
looked
at
so
part
of
it
was
within
the
parameters
of
of
you
know
what
the
scope
of
the
consultant
could
look
at
bus
was
considered
because
looking
at
her
onboard
survey
and
writer
demographics,
that
would
have
the
most
significant
impact
on
current
writers
of
lower
income,
who
are
using
the
bus.
W
Now,
the
at
least
the
demographics
show
that
highest
income
levels
are
are
writing
on
average,
on
front
runner
and
then
tracks,
and
then
bus
and
and
part
of
that
is
the
extensiveness
of
the
bus
Network.
That
goes
in
places
that
tracks
does
not
go,
but
yeah
I
mean
that
that
is
something
we
could
have
looked
at.
So
I
think
it
was
just
also
a
matter
of
what
happens
if
you
just
did
one
mode
in
in
the
interest
of
cost
savings.
We
just
looked
at
buses.
A
So
I
have
a
question.
Was
one
one
thing
that
I
don't
see
analyzed
here
is
so
okay.
Let
me
start
the
question
system:
white,
zero,
fair
at
35.
That's
like
maximum!
That's
the
high!
Yes
scenario:
that
means
nine
million
more
people
more
trips
are
taken
per
year.
Is
that
right?
Yes,
is
there
a
quick
way
to
estimate
like
how
what
the
impact
to
our
air
quality
could
be
based
on
nine
million
viewer
trips
in
a
car
yeah.
V
We
did
we
I,
don't
have
the
results
in
front
of
me.
We
did
look
at
how
this
would
impact
travel,
Air,
Quality,
Air,
congestion
and
air
quality,
and
there
is
a
big
benefit
on
the
system.
I
don't
have
the
number.
Do
you
remember
that
of
your
head,
I.
W
Don't
know
I
forgot
my
head,
we're
compiling
the
final
report
with
the
consultant
right
now,
and
one
of
the
things
they
did
look
at
was
some
air
quality
benefits
and
also
congestion
mitigation,
and
you
know
part
of
what
well
I
don't
want
to
have
a
spoiler
about
where
we
have
one
on
on
potential
path
forward,
and
one
thing
that
could
happen
is
if
a
pilot
program
was
put
in
place
for
a
length
of
time.
W
G
Councilman
Dugan
so
I'm
just
going
to
piggyback
at
what
the
was
chair
was
talking
about.
I
I
love,
the
the
numbers
here-
and
this
is
just
like
the
the
raw
numbers
of
the
operational
costs
and
the
savings,
and
we
look
at
the
question
here-
was
about
the
air
quality.
So
and
how
do
we
quantify
this
for
the
legislators,
who's
trying
to
say?
G
Oh,
this
35
million
dollars
is
too
much
to
spend,
but
when
we
look
at
the
work
lost,
work
days
lost
work
Revenue
because
of
someone
who's
sick
because
of
the
air
quality,
the
reduction
of
number
of
cars
on
the
freeway.
When
we
say
these
number
of
writers
for
the
system,
why?
How
many?
How
many
car
miles
are
we
reducing
off
the
freeway
off
of
I-15
going
north
to
south?
How
many
cars
are
we
just
taken
off
the
road?
G
The
infrastructure
costs,
the
the
plowing
costs,
all
those
additional
costs
that
are
embedded
in
our
system
across
the
the
state
that
aren't
reflected
in
the
35
million
dollars
and
and
then
just
the
workers
right.
He
now
has
a
and
the
employee
he's
got
the
guy's
showing
up
reliably
every
day.
He
didn't
have
to
worry
about
new
tires
he's
not
going
having
to
fend
for
a
new
set
of
tires.
G
So
all
those
costs
need
to
be
rolled
up
somewhere,
because
that
shows
the
big
picture
and,
back
to
your
point
of
hey,
we
got
to
do
a
whole
pilot
study
for
a
year
to
figure
that
out
so
I'm
now
I'm
going
to
Just
Dub
back
into
the
five
percent
of
the
revenue
fee.
Here
is
that
net
revenue,
or
is
that
gross
number?
If
that's
net
revenue
or
gross.
G
W
The
net
and
one
thing
on
that
slide
that
that
that
talked
about
the
fair
box
return
is
that
that
also
reduced
significantly
during
covet
and
it's
starting
to
come
back
pre-coveted.
It
was,
you
know,
somewhat
higher,
but
we
could
go
back
to
that
slide
if
that's
helpful.
But
it's
it's
gone
down
over
time,
and
one
thing
is
that
we
have
held
Fair
steady
for
a
while,
and
our
operational
costs
are
going
up.
W
G
Is
it
so
I
I'm?
Just
that's
my
whole
push
here.
Is
people
just
grab
onto
that
34
million
and
they're,
not
realizing
that
there's
so
many
more
savings
to
be
had
not
just
for
UTA
but
for
every
business
in
the
in
the
city
and
every
business
in
the
in
the
UTA
region,
and
we
got
to
make
sure
we're
selling
that
not
just
that
hey
you
can
ride
the
bus
free
so.
A
Did
we
did
we
cut
you
off
with
questions
before
your.
V
Final,
we
do
have
one
slide,
but
it
was
fine.
We
can
ask
questions
whatever
yeah
we
did.
This
is
our
last
slide
just
about
the
possible
pass
forward.
So,
like
we
mentioned
the
report,
our
study
doesn't
have
recommendations.
We
laid
out
trade-offs,
but
we
do
want
to
end
on.
Where
do
we
go
from
here?
So
there's
a
few
options.
One
is
that
we
kind
of
keep
the
existing
Fair
structure
business
as
usual.
V
V
The
second
possible
path
forward
is
a
partial
implementation,
so,
like
we
said
for
one
mode
or
for
a
group
of
people
or
lowering
the
fare,
this
still
requires
that
upgrade
to
the
fair
collection
technology
and,
as
this
is
kind
of
a
summary
of
those,
three
options
could
require
anywhere
from
4
to
25
million
dollars
to
make
up
for
lost
Revenue.
But
we
do
get
a
pretty
good
ridership
increase
of
five
to
eighteen
percent.
The
sort
of
3A
option
is
implementation
of
system-wide
zero
fare.
This
doesn't
require
us
to
upgrade.
V
3B
would
do
would
be
that
one
year
pilot
this
is
what's
in
the
governor's
budget
and
that
one
year
pilot,
of
course,
is
the
38
million
dollars
to
make
up
for
lost
Revenue,
but
it
would
allow
us
to
not
maybe
commit
to
such
a
big.
You
know
change,
but
it
would
allow
us
to
your
point
of
seeing
what
is
the
error,
the
impact
on
air
quality?
What
is
the
impact
on
congestion?
What's
the
impact
on
people
being
able
to
reliably
get
to
work?
V
How
can
how
are
people
then
being
able
to
make
decisions
about?
Do
we
have
to
purchase
another
car?
Where
can
we
live
closer
to
Transit
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
wouldn't
realize,
and
you
know
the
one
month
therapy
February,
we
saw
a
great
benefit
to
ridership
there,
but
we
don't
get
to
see
how
that
might
be
actualized
on
a
long
term
and
so
that
one-year
pilot
would
allow
us
to
do
that
without
making
the
long-term
commitment
right.
V
A
V
O
And
another
factor
in
there
is
it's
a
25
million
dollars.
The
governor
also
noted
that
we
have
past
partners
that
would
be
important
to
keep
in
place,
because
you
know
other
that
that
25
million
dollars
doesn't
represent
the
entire
operating
hit
on
on
UTA.
V
And
it's
Statewide,
so
that
includes
Sun
Tran
down
in
Washington
County
and.
W
H
Yeah,
it's
a
quick
question
and
to
team
up
with
the
you
know
what
councilmember
Dugan
was
was
talking
about
earlier,
there's,
obviously
a
lot
of
things
that
we
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
that
spend
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
on
on
Transportation,
that
they
need
a
way
of
reliably
and
affordably
get
to
work
and-
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
problem
as
a
problem
as
pushing
them
down
so
I
welcome
any
options.
H
You
know,
I'm
looking
for
I
mean
and
I
appreciate
this,
and
it's
a
big
deal
for
for
my
neighbors
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
the
UTA,
if
there's
any
savings,
related
to
UTA
and
related
to
the
enforcement
of
fees.
You
know
Affairs
I,
guess
because
I
know
that
you
know
UTA
police
just
enforce
the
the
Affairs
and
on
tracks
I.
You
know
I
I,
sporadically
I
heard
about
a
friend,
I
forgot
his
card
somewhere
and
got
stopped
and
whatnot.
H
Is
there
any
way
to
quantify
how
much
money
we
save
by
doing
that
so
or
by
not
doing
that?
I
guess
yeah.
O
No
I
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
quantify
that
on
the
operating
side
and
on
the
capital
side,
because
we
have
an
immediate
need
for
the
fair
equipment
replacement,
but
for
we
wouldn't
reduce
our
police
force.
If
anything,
we
would
actually
move
into.
You
know
more
supportive
role
for
us
on
platforms
on
vehicles,
so
any
of
the
officers
that
are
doing
Fair
checks
right
now
would
just
be
moved
to
other
duties.
H
And
to
to
this
overall
conversation,
and
recently
we
had
discussions
about
the
airport
and
about
you
know
quite
a
bit
about
you
know
not
only
about
employees
but
a
big
part
about
those
that
are
traveling,
and
you
know
something
like
this
I
believe
will
be
I'm
I
mean.
Probably
everybody
will
agree
that
it
will
be
a
significant
Improvement
to
decisions
to
to
get
to
the
airport.
H
G
Dugan,
just
one
more
sorry,
on
back
on
the
the
hard
to
quantify
safety
side
of
the
house
and
and
financial
side,
you
know
we
take
the
if
you've
taken
front
runner
down
how
many
cars
will
be
taking
off
that
road.
Can
you
delay
it
delay
a
Road
expansion?
Can
you
delay
road
maintenance?
How
many?
How
many
accidents
are
you
preventing
by
you
know
reducing
one
less
or
reducing
the
traffic
by
one
car,
two
cars
all.
G
You
know
are
a
big
deal
and
that's
what
we
got
to
make
sure
that
we're
selling
that's
how
you
can
that's
what
you
needed.
We
need
those
numbers,
so
we
can
actually
quantify
this
well.
W
I
will
say
that
and
Julie
I
don't
know
if
you
know
the
date
on
it,
but
we
have
a
a
report
that
has
a
lot
more
detail
and
looks
at
also
what
other
Transit
agencies
have
done
around
the
country
and
I
believe
Kansas
City
did
an
economic
benefit
analysis
of
of
their
zero
fare
system,
and
so
there
was
a
report
coming
out
soon.
That
will
have
have
more
detail
about
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you're
asking
about
yeah.
O
A
Beautiful
thank
you
appreciate
this
discussion.
I
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
I
agree
with
the
discussion
that
there
are
other
savings
that
will
be
had
that
are
Financial,
but
it's
not
just
the
financial
decision.
We
during
Free
Fair
February.
We
got
an
extra
visit
from
my
mother-in-law
who
lives
in
Weber
County,
which
I
like
my
mother-in-law.
So
it
was
good,
but
they
they
don't
feel
they're
a
little
older,
don't
feel
comfortable
driving
on
the
freeway
at
night
and
they
use
front
runner
to
get
to
get
to
Salt
Lake
to
visit
us.
A
So
it's
not
just
the
financial
benefit
or
the
environmental
environmental
benefits
that
are
great,
but
it's
the
fact
that
people
are
able
to
get
around
and
do
things
that
otherwise
they
might
not
be
able
to
do
so.
I'm
really
excited
about
this
I
hope
that
the
pilot
happens.
I
hope
that
the
legislature
will
fund
that
and
that
I
hope
that
that
will
prove
to
be
wildly
successful.
Any
yeah.
O
If
I
can
add
one
other
thing
too,
just
so
the
council
is
aware
we
are
going
to
be
running
a
zero
Affair
week
or
extended
week
for
the
nbao
All-Star
week.
We're
actually
adding
a
number
of
a
lot
of
service
to
make
that
happen
and
I
think
a
point
to
be
made
on
that
is
we
have
a
team,
that's
planning
for
that,
and
so
I
think
that
team
accomplishes
two
things
for
us,
one
that
gives
us
a
unified
approach
before
potential
for
zero,
fair
environment.
O
V
Well,
Vice,
chairman
of
mother-in-law,
be
able
to
come
down.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I
guess
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
also
a
UTA
item.
A
R
A
W
A
W
And
Eric
will
get
into
a
lot
more
detailed
question,
so
we
actually
have
two
parts
in
this.
The
first
part
is
about
our
30-year
long-range
Transit
plan
that
we're
working
on
in
the
second
part
is
about
our
five-year
service
plan
and
other
shorter
term
Transit
needs.
Can
we
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please.
W
So
I'm
going
to
quickly
just
explain
what
this
is
without
going
through
it's
a
fairly
detailed
document,
but
this
is
kind
of
an
overview
of
how
things
go
from
when
there's
an
idea
about
I'd
like
to
see
this
Transit
happen
and
how
it
works
through
the
process
and
becomes
implemented.
So
it
starts.
W
You
know,
with
long-range
and
strategic
planning
and
partnering
with
our
mpo
partners
at
wfrc
like
Julie
and
Andrew
and
mag,
and
then
it
comes
down
to
service
planning
as
it
gets
closer
as
things
get
built,
and
then
it
eventually
goes
down
into
Eric's
realm
and
when
he
figures
out
how
it's
going
to
run
on
the
street
and
then
that
gets
implemented,
and
many
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
the
change
day
process
that
happens
and
updates
that
happen
every
year
to
Transit
next
slide.
Please.
W
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
big
partnership
with
our
regional
partners
and
they
work
on
the
regional
transportation
plans,
which
many
of
you
are
familiar
with,
that
look
out
30
years
and
we
see
the
long-range
Transit
plan
which
we're
very
excited
about,
because
this
is
the
first
time
that
utas
had
its
own
system-wide
30-year
plan
looking
out
across
the
entire
agency.
W
But
it
is
complementary
to
the
work
that
wfrc
does
in
this
region
and
we
anticipate
this
being
on
the
similar
cycle
as
the
mpo
updates
to
their
plan.
They're.
Both
community
and
data
driven
and
have
a
30-year
Vision.
But
while
the
mpo
plan
is
really
focused
on
the
big
capital
projects
and
that's
you
know,
roads,
active
Transportation
projects
and
major
Capital
Transit
projects,
we're
really
looking
at
all
forms
of
Transit.
W
So
whether
that's
you
know
things
to
get
around
your
neighbor,
neighborhood
or
on-demand
service,
and
we're
really
looking
at
all
the
things
that
it
takes
to
to
operate
Transit
out
30
years.
So
we're
looking
both
at
a
regional
Focus.
But
we
know
that
you
know,
as
we
heard
from
the
earlier
discussion
about
the
west
side
on
demand.
The
average
trip
there
is
2.8
miles.
We
know
that
from
Regional
Transportation
studies
that
many
trips
over
half
of
trips
that
people
make
are
are
three
to
five
miles
or
less.
W
W
So
the
goals
of
the
process
is
is
really
to
strengthen
Partnerships
with
with
our
communities.
We've
gone
across
our
extensive
service
area
that
you
know
goes
from
Brigham
City
in
the
north
to
Utah
County
in
the
South
and
out
to
twilla
and
talked
with
City
officials
at
cities
all
across
the
region
about
how
they
Envision
the
future
being.
We
have
a
public
involvement
process
and
Community
engagement
process
involved
in
this.
W
We're
looking
to
assess
long-term
Transit
needs
across
the
system,
and
this
is
a
really
exciting
thing,
because
many
projects
or
I
would
say.
Oftentimes
projects
may
happen
because
of
political
will
or
someone
able
to
push
the
right
levers,
and
this
is
giving
UTA
an
opportunity
to
really
look
holistically
across
the
whole
system
and
say:
where
do
we
see
need
now?
W
Where
do
we
see
the
greatest
need
looking
out
30
years
and
really
be
able
to
come
forth
proactively
and
talk
about
where
we
see
Transit
needs
in
the
future,
and
then
we're
going
to
assemble
with
Community
input,
a
system-wide
vision
and
we're
going
to
have
strategies
for
for
getting
that
Vision
accomplished
next
slide,
please,
and
just
a
quick
overview
of
where
we
are
in
the
timeline.
As
I
mentioned,
we've
done
a
listening
tour
up
and
down
our
service
area.
W
We've
done
some
data
collection,
we've
selected,
a
consultant
who's
done
a
lot
of
work
around
the
country,
Nelson
Nygaard,
on
similar
plans
for
other
regions,
and
so
we're
excited
to
have
them
on
board
and
assisting
us
with
that
we're
starting
some
engagement
related
to
the
plan.
We
had
a
survey
that
went
out
on
both
the
five-year
service
plan
and
on
long-term
Transit
needs.
W
We
have
a
virtual
public
meeting
coming
up
and
we
have
a
website
a
rideuta.com
lrtp,
where
more
information
is
available,
we're
doing
A
needs
assessment
and
next
year
we're
really
getting
into
the
the
real
nuts
and
bolts
of
of
developing
a
plan
taking
it
out
for
comment
and
having
it
approved
by
the
board
and
once
again
this.
We
anticipate
this
being
a
living
document
that
is
updated
over
time.
Zoom
in
this
year,.
H
W
So
this
year,
2023
we're
really
getting
into
the
all
the
work
of
making
this
plan
happen
so
next
slide.
Please
and
I
think
we
are
done
with
that
portion.
If
anyone
has
questions
about
the
long
range
plan
that
we're
working
on
we're
happy
to
take
those
now
otherwise
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Eric
councilmember.
A
A
The
I
think
we're
just
at
the
middle
of.
R
A
S
It
seems
like
as
we're
planning
it
feels
like
we're,
always
stuck
in
this
Chicken
and
the
Egg
conundrum
when
it
comes
to
Transit
with
saying
when
ridership
increases
we'll
put
more
money
in
it,
and
then
people
like
me
saying
when
it
becomes
a
livable
schedule
with
service
that
meets
the
needs
of
a
single
mom
with
three
kids.
Then
I'll
start
writing.
S
It
seems
really
Apparent
from
that
previous
presentation.
We
just
got
that
there's
a
pretty
clear
chicken
and
a
pretty
clear
egg,
removing
barriers
to
entry
promotes
ridership,
which
will
then
promote
the
demand,
and
this
feels
like
it's
a
utility
that
we
need
to
be
offering
for
the
protection
of
our
environment,
for
the
Vitality
of
our
economy.
S
W
I
think
we're
hoping,
as
I
mentioned,
to
be
very
proactive
and
looking
out
and
where
we
anticipate
growth
to
happen
and
that's
something
that
our
mpo
partners,
wfrc
and
mag
look
at
closely
and
the
state
looks
at
where
we
see
growth,
and
this
is
why
we
want
to
look
out
30
years,
because
when
the
growth
has
already
happened,
as
you
said
once
the
egg's
already
there
like
it's
almost
too
late.
So
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that
now.
W
So
we
we
certainly
are
looking
to
do
that
through
this
process
and
get
engagement
from
you
know
from
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
others
all
across
our
region
on
where
they
see
the
growth
happening.
So
we
can
start
planning
for
that.
Need
now.
So.
R
All
right,
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
to
give
you
a
quick
update,
I
know:
we've
been
talking
about
the
partnership
between
UTA
and
Salt
Lake
City
all
day.
Today
we
wanted
to
let
you
know
how
things
are
going
and
the
short
answer
is
very
well.
I
get
a
little
hit
of
Serotonin
every
time,
I
check
the
ridership
on
these
routes
and
in
this
economy.
That's
that's
a
nice,
nice,
cheap
pick-me-up.
R
So,
just
to
review,
we
have
routes,
one
two,
nine
and
twenty
one
that
are
currently
sponsored
by
Salt
Lake
City
and
we
are
also
working
on.
We
call
this
the
Baseline
service.
This
is
the
service
that
we
would
be
running
as
previously
mentioned,
per
our
service
design,
guidelines
on
routes,
200,
205,
209,
217,
223,
yes,
okay,.
Q
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
2,
9
and
21
UTA
already
has
like
there's
a
baseline
portion
of
each
of
those
three
routes.
That's
correct
and
do
you
want
to
expound
on
what
Salt
Lake
City
is
paying
for
on
those
three.
R
Sure
so
in
2019
we
worked
with
Salt
Lake
City
to
increase
the
level
of
service
on
routes,
2,
9
and
21,
based
on
the
gap
between
the
level
of
service
that
they
had
and
the
level
of
service
that
we
would
run
in
our
Baseline
service.
So
originally
Salt
Lake
City
sponsored
service
seven
days
a
week
on
all
three
routes.
Since
then
on
routes,
2
and
21,
Salt
Lake
City
is
no
longer
sponsoring
the
weekday
or
the
Sunday
portion
of
those
routes,
just
Saturdays
and
seven
days
a
week
on
route.
R
T
R
A
very
good
dialogue,
very
productive
dialogue
with
with
your
folks
here
as
well,
so
that-
and
that
is
something
that
will
continue
to
evaluate
as
ridership
grows.
We
did
take
a
hit
on
many
routes
and
ridership
in
in
due
to
covid.
But,
interestingly,
a
lot
of
these
routes
have
rebounded
quite
well
and
UTA
is
performing
Jay
can
brag
about
this
if
he
wants
to
we're
performing
quite
well
compared
to
other
Transit
agencies
in
terms
of
our
ridership
recovery
in
part,
because
we
are
trying
to
focus
on
some
of
these
line.
R
Haul
boringly,
reliable
corridors
that
just
are
trying
to
get
people
where
they
need
to
go
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
more
about
that.
Jay
right
I
can
keep
going
I.
O
Didn't
mean
to
bring
you
into
this
yeah
you're
good
I
mean
we.
We
are.
This
is
an
example
and
I
I
don't
mean
a
signal
out
one
mode,
but
I
mean
on
on
front
runner
or
commuter
rail
Service,
we're
close
to
70
percent
compared
with
2019
and
by
the
way
I'm
that
I
really
don't
like
comparing
us
to
2019
anymore.
O
You
know
when
we
we're,
you
know
we're
moving
forward,
we're
working
on
on
the
ridership
that
and
and
and
building
that
right
now,
but
compared
with
other
agencies
around
the
country,
we're
significantly
ahead
and
that's
entire
across
the
entire
system.
I
do
want
to
actually
say
one
other
thing
about
that.
You
know.
Not
only
are
we
performing
well
on
ridership
we're
also
performing
well
in
terms
of
operations.
O
Last
month,
one
of
the
worst
winter
months
we've
had
in
a
while
and
front
runner
was
one
time
91
percent
Trax
was
on
time
88.
This
is
a
lot
about
our
service
and
about
the
the
energy
and
efforts
that
our
our
people
put
into
that
service.
A
Thank
you,
James
I
do
have
a
question
on
please.
You
said
the
21
Salt
Lake
City
is
no
longer
sponsoring
sponsoring
weekday
or
Sunday
service.
That's
correct.
Does
that
mean
that
the
frequent
Transit
is
only
happening
on
Saturdays
or
no?
Does
the
frequent
Transit
now
fit
under
uta's
Baseline
service?
That's
correct
and
so
that's
happening
on
the
weekdays
and
then
we
are
sponsoring
on
Saturdays
and
then
it
just
doesn't
happen
on
Sundays.
So.
R
Yeah
so
we're
running
the
the
frequent
Transit
level
of
service
on
these
routes
still,
but
it's
no
longer
part
of
the
contract
between
UTA
and.
A
Q
Thank
you
the
way
I
see
it
is
that
in
our
master
plan,
we
identified
jointly
with
UTA
kind
of
some
service
standards
and
that's
what
the
so
in
order
to
join
the
prestigious
Club
of
being
part
of
the
frequent
Transit
Network.
Q
You
need
to
have
early
morning
and
late
night
service
on
on
weekdays
and
Saturdays,
and
then
30
minutes
service
on
Sunday,
so
15
minute
frequency
six
days
a
week
and
then
the
30
minute
service
on
Sunday,
a
lot
of
routes
still
don't
run
on
Sundays,
and
so
you
Salt
Lake
City,
pays
the
gap
on
the
29
and
21
to
bring
them
up
to
Snuff
and
it's
a
very
small
gap
on
the
two
slightly
bigger
gap
on
the
21
and
a
bigger
gap
on
the
nine
and
then
we
pay
all
of
the
one.
A
Q
G
Chair
yeah
yeah,
councilmember
Dugan,
since
we're
right
here
on
the
on
the
fixed
routes.
Here
you
know
back
in
2020,
I,
remember
the
initial
discussions.
When
we
had,
we
talked
about
the
ftns,
we
talked
about
going
further
east.
Is
there
still
discussions
on
that
because
you
know
the
the
zoo
sees
a
half
a
million
people
a
year,
but
there's
no
bus
there.
G
R
So
we
are
looking
at
some
additional
service,
whether
that's
from
uta's
baseline
or
sponsored
by
Salt
Lake.
It's
in
what
we
call
the
vision
section
of
our
Five-Year
Plan,
which
I'll
get
to
in
a
minute:
okay
to
increase
the
the
frequency
of
service
on
Route
four,
which
covers
Foothill
all
the
way
to
39th
and
Wasatch
from
39th
and
Wasatch
all
the
way
up
to
the
U
of
U
and
then
across
on
400
South
right
all
the
way
to
Redwood.
R
That's
a
pretty
important
route.
I
think
it's
John's
favorite
route
is
that
is
that
still
true
I'm.
R
A
big
fan
of
RAV4
as
well
as
we
did
recently
have
a
conversation
with
the
zoo,
we're
looking
at
options
to
serve
that
area.
R
There
are
some
I,
don't
know
what,
if
you
would
call
it
just
operational
feasibility
concerns
about
the
zoo
and
the
Natural
History
Museum
in
areas
like
that,
we
did
have
a
conversation
recently
with
the
zoo,
looking
if
there's
real
estate,
that
we
could
either
work
with
them
or
the
city
or
or
as
UTA,
to
put
a
roundabout
or
someplace
to
turn
a
bus
around
at
that
location.
R
We
we
do
want
to
serve
the
zoo,
but
maybe
not
all,
of
emigration
Canyon
at
the
same
time,
so
you
know,
there's
there's
a
few
things
that
we're
looking
at
there.
We
certainly
and
anything
that's
not
going
to
be
in
The
Five-Year
Plan
immediately.
We
are
also
Alex.
R
Is
tired
of
me
saying
this
looking
at
putting
some
of
that
stuff
into
the
long-range
Transit
plan
as
well,
so
that
it's
on
the
books
so
that,
when
the
phrase
that
we
like
to
use
on,
our
team
is
ready
to
pounce
when
the
opportunity
is
there,
we
can
say
here's
the
plan,
we're
already
ready
to
go
so
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more
as
we
keep
going.
But
yes,
the
short
answer
is
yes,
we
are
looking
into
increasing
level
of
service
on
the
east
side
of
the
city
as
well.
R
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide
and
just
look
at
a
few
ridership
numbers.
There
won't
be
a
quiz
on
this,
but
it's
good
to
see
how
things
are
going
and
the
answer
is
like
I
said
very
well,
we've
seen
since
last
year.
At
this
time
we
do
tend
to
measure
the
same
time
period
year
to
year
to
try
to
account
for
seasonality
school.
That
kind
of
thing
pretty
much.
Every
route
that
we
just
talked
about
is
up.
R
Route
1
doesn't
have
a
percent
change
because
it
didn't
exist
six
months
ago,
but
you'll
notice
that
it's
already
doing
quite
well,
it's
carrying
as
many
people
as
many
of
the
other
routes
on
this
page.
All
the
other
routes
are
up
just
a
couple
to
note
about
209
I
was
not
part
of
the
the
agreement
with
Salt
Lake
City,
but
is
up
17,
that's
due
to
going
through
the
Avenues
neighborhood,
which
it
did
not
previously,
and
one
interesting
thing
to
note
is
Route
217,
which
is
Redwood
Road.
R
We
actually
shortened
that
route
and
you'll
notice
that
ridership
went
up
slightly.
That's
not
supposed
to
happen.
However.
We
believe
that
that
is
because
we
have
the
improved
connections
on
the
west
side
of
the
city,
with
routes
1
and
205
that
now
serve
the
Rose
Park
and
Fair
Park
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
the
UK
on-demand
service
tying
into.
That
means
that
the
ridership
has
gone
up
overall,
even
though
the
217
is
shorter,
I
guess
any
questions
about
this.
If
not,
we
can
we
can
move
forward.
R
That's
not
all
new
ridership,
because
what
happened
was
when
we
made
the
changes
in
the
Avenues.
We
replaced
a
significant
portion
of
Route
3,
which
is
the
Third
Avenue
bus
with
an
extension
of
Route
223.
So
a
lot
of
that
is
people
that
have
just
switched
from
the
three
to
the
223,
but
some
of
it
is
still
a
new
ridership,
because
the
223
runs
longer
hours
than
Route
3
used
to,
and
so
we
are
seeing
some
pickup
on
that
great
so
that
that
is
a
little
bit.
S
Just
want
to
point
out
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
my
co-counselors,
who
have
been
here
for
a
bit
and
to
my
predecessor
and
the
others,
and
the
administration
for
making
sure
we
have
vibrant
west
side.
I
mean
we're.
The
city
is
essentially
supplying
the
west
side
and
I
mean
Route.
9
and
205
have
the
largest
increases,
and
even
when
you
shorten
Redwood,
we
increase
when
you
said
we
are
starved
for
Transit
and
we
need
you
all
paying
attention
to
us
and
we
need
state
level
investment
in
us.
This
cannot
be.
S
R
That's
that's
pretty
clear
and
so
I
I
100
agree
and
we
we
definitely
appreciate
the
partnership
with
the
city,
like
I,
say
the
city
council
being
willing
to
go
out
on
a
limb
that
was
a
little
bit
scary
back
in
2015
2016.
To
have
that
conversation,
we
appreciate
that
that
was
able
to
happen
and
that
the
city
was
able
to
take
the
sleep
of
faith
and
we
we
look
forward
to
Growing
with
you
in
the
future.
R
So
let's
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide
and
talk
about
some
of
that
we
will
go
over
the
five-year
service
plan.
Unfortunately,
all
of
your
hopes
and
dreams
will
not
be
in
the
five
year
service
plan.
I
apologize
for
that
in
advance.
The
Five-Year
service
plan
is
not
a
list
of
everything
that
we
want
to.
Do
it's
not
a
list
of
everything
that
we
need
to
do
it's
a
list
of
everything
that
we
feel
that
we
can
commit
to
in
the
next
five
years.
R
Given
our
constraints,
given
the
world
that
we're
working
with
and
given
some
of
the
unpredictability
again,
we
like
to
be
ready
to
pounce,
but
the
the
list
of
stuff
that
we
feel
like
we
can
accomplish
in
the
next
five
years
is
what
goes
into
the
five-year
service
plan
per
state
law.
This
gets
updated
every
two
years.
If
things
change
a
lot
in
the
next
two
years,
you
may
see
a
more
expansive
five-year
service
plan,
but
we'll
go
through
this
and
just
feel
free.
R
R
So
this
year,
coming
up
we'll
actually
be
moving.
This
first
item
to
August,
probably
we
have
been
running
routes
901
and
902
to
Park
City
High
Valley
Transit
in
Summit
County
has
started
running
some
of
that
service
and
we
plan
to
have
them
take
that
over
later
this
this
year
in
August,
we
will
be
opening
the
full
OGX
line
in
Ogden
we've
been
running
a
short
portion
of
that
we've
seen
very
good
ridership
on
that
line.
Already
we
will
be
adding
15-minute
service
on
tracks
on
Saturdays
in
August
2022.
R
We
had
a
public
comment
period
for
change
day,
and
that
was
the
item
that
got
the
most
comments,
which
is
kind
of
like
a
write-in
candidate,
winning
the
vote
because
it
wasn't
actually
on
the
list.
So
we
recognize
that
that
is
a
big.
That
is
a
very
important
step
for
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
a
lot
of
other
communities
as
well,
and
then
we
are
looking
at
as
contingency
items
because
of
our
staffing
constraints.
R
We
did
have
to
reduce
service
on
some
routes
in
Salt,
Lake
County,
as
well
as
a
ski
service
and
other
parts
of
our
service
area.
So
we
plan
to
restore
that
service,
as
students
were
able
to
get
that
many
people
in
the
door.
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
same
thing
for
December
2023.
We
have
the
three
ski
routes
in
Salt,
Lake
County
and
we've
received
quite
a
bit
of
feedback
on
those
recognize
that
that
is
also
an
important
service
that
we
would
like
to
restore
some
service
to.
R
As
students
were
able
to
in
2024,
we
will
be
making
improvements
in
Ogden
and
South
Utah
County,
but
probably
the
biggest
one
for
this
group
is
increasing.
The
frequency
on
Route,
205.
Route
205
is
increasingly
becoming
an
event.
If
you
are
standing
on
the
street
and
the
205
is
coming
in
a
few
minutes,
you
will
start
to
see
crowds
gather.
That
was
not
the
case
before,
but
its
ridership
is
certainly
growing.
Even
at
30
minute
service.
R
We
expect
to
see
impressive
Returns
on
that
by
bumping
that
up
to
15
minute
Service
as
well
next
slide
August
2025.
You
may
recall
that
in
the
the
pre-coveted
times
I
know
nobody
remembers
those
at
this
point,
but
we
used
to
run
15-minute
service
on
routes
2
and
220
on
200
South
for
service
every
six
to
nine
minutes.
R
So
we
would
like
to
move
in
that
direction
again,
not
with
two
different
routes,
but
just
by
making
Route
2
twice
as
frequent
take
advantage
of
the
Investments
that
we're
making
in
200
South
with
the
improved
stops
and
the
business
access
Transit
Lanes
in
2026.
The
big
project
is
the
Mid
Valley
connector
that
affects
Murray,
Taylorsville
and
West.
R
Valley
doesn't
directly
affect
Salt
Lake
City,
but
that
is
a
pretty
big
step
forward
for
transit
in
that
part
of
the
County,
as
well
as
changes
to
the
service
between
Ogden
and
Salt
Lake
and
then
in
August
2027
I
know
you
probably
don't
care
as
much
about
Eagle
Mountain
and
Saratoga
Springs,
as
you
do
about
5600
West.
So
we'll
focus
on
that
one,
not
that
we
don't
care
about.
Saratoga
Springs,
but
5600
West
is
a
pretty
big
deal.
This
is
the
original
project.
It
started
out
as
a
light
rail
line.
R
It
had
a
phase
of
Life
as
a
brt.
It's
now
come
back
to
life
as
a
limited
stop
service.
That
would
run
every
15
minutes
on
weekdays
and
that
would
go
all
the
way
from
5600
West
station
on
the
red
line,
which
is
at
about
9
800,
South,
all
the
way
up,
5600
West
to
the
international
center
and
then
to
the
airport
and
then
into
downtown
Salt
Lake
City
via
North
Temple.
R
That
is
a
big
lift
for
us.
It
will
probably
take
about
40
drivers
just
to
run
that
service
on
weekdays.
That's
why
it's
towards
the
back
half
of
the
plan,
but
that
is
a
significant
Improvement
in
connectivity
and
service
to
our
region,
pertinent
to
the
conversations
about
the
airport.
We
love
the
green
line.
We
we
have
Earnest
desires
to
extend
the
hours
on
the
green
line,
but
this
will
probably
be
faster
than
making
some
of
the
improvements
that
we
have
to.
R
R
It
is
not
in
the
five-year
service
plan
because
we
don't
have
a
timeline
or
a
commitment
yet
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
So
the
five
year
service
plan
is
really
grumpy.
Nothing
gets
into
the
five-year
service
plan
until
it's
like.
Yes,
we
know
that
we
can
do
this,
so
that
would
be
start
out
as
an
lrtp
item
this
year
and
then,
as
we
say,
okay,
we
actually
know
that
we're
going
to
open
this
in
next
year,
then
it
would
come
onto
the
five-year
service
plan.
W
I
do
think
there
have
been
some
discussions
regarding
interim
Solutions
like
vanpool
or
that
sort
of
thing
to
help
employees
get
there.
S
R
So
the
answer
is
always
yes
at
some
point
and
as
we
know
more,
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
we
do
update
this
plan
every
two
years,
so
you
know,
as
as
we
find
out
more
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
we
may
be
able
to
make
additions.
Things
may
be
able
to
move
forward.
It
just
depends
on
what
happens.
You
know
if
we're
successful
in
causing
a
global
recession
this
year,
we
may
be
able
to
hire
a
little
bit
faster
anyway.
A
R
Q
Okay,
definitely
yeah
the
the
one
route
that
has
come
up
previously
with
Council
was
the
the
route
four
and
so
that's
currently
30
minute
service
and
yeah.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
a
policy
decision.
If
we
want
to
wait
for
the
the
regional
funding
to
catch
up
or
accelerate
that
with
City
investment.
R
Next
slide,
so,
where
we're
at
right
now,
we
are
almost
done.
We
are
in
the
second
to
last
bubble
here
on
this
timeline,
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
final
comment
period
on
the
final
draft
of
the
plan,
that's
open
until
January
23rd.
We
encourage
anyone
and
everyone
to
comment
on
that.
We've
already
gotten
dozens
of
comments
on
it
so
far,
and
you
know
we
will
make
as
many
adjustments
to
the
plan
as
we're
able
to
at
this
point
and,
of
course,
any
feedback
that
we're
not
able
to
do
immediately.
R
We
do,
we
will
still
keep
track
of
for
future
updates
to
the
plan.
So
if
anybody
says
oh
I,
don't
know
if
you
change
listening,
we
we
appreciate
any
and
all
feedback
that
we
get
on
this
plan.
We
will
be
presenting
that
to
our
Board
of
Trustees
next
month
for
final
adoption
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
the
first
service
changes
associated
with
this
plan
will
go
into
effect
for
August
2023
change
day
later
this
year,
and
then,
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
think
that
might
be
okay,
I
will
just
mention.
R
If
you
look
at
the
five-year
service
plan,
as
we
have
varietyj.com
lrtp,
we
also
have
reduta.com
fysp
for
a
five-year
service
plan.
We
do
have
a
list
of
vision
items
on
there
that
are
not
currently
in
this
plan,
but
things
that
we
would
like
to
do
within
Salt
Lake
City.
That
does
include
increased
service
on
Route
4,
as
well
as
increase
service
on
Route
17,
which
is
1700
South.
R
It
does
include
some
modest
increases
in
service
to
routes
209
and
there's
one
other
one
I
mean
the
205
is
already
in
the
plan
and
then
some
additional
increased
service
in
the
South
part
of
the
County,
as
well
as
in
West
Valley
City,
some
additional
connections
there
and
then,
as
Alex
explained
already
we'll,
we
will
be
going
into
the
long-range
Transit
plan
efforts,
Full
Throttle
this
year
and
hope
to
be
able
to
present
you
with
that
as
well.
W
G
Thanks
this
is
this
is
awesome
and
I
really
appreciate
that,
because
public
transportation
and
moving
people
around
efficiently
is
vital
for
the
city
to
survive,
and
if,
if
we
don't
do
this
right,
then
we're
just
going
to
be
sitting
in
the
parking
lot
and
I.
G
Try
to
tell
people
in
the
in
my
neighborhood
that
we
can't
just
grow
Research
Park
and
we
can't
just
grow
the
university
without
public
transportation
growing
at
the
same
time
or
slightly
before
that,
because
we'll
never
make
it
up,
and
when
we
talk
about
line
number
four
going
up
Foothill,
you
know
it's
not
just
four,
it's
brts
going
just
just
to
the
university
or
just
to
the
hospital
and
partnership
being
with
the
university
partnership
being
with
UDOT,
whether
it's
a
dedicated
line,
priority
lights.
All
that
needs
to
happen
now.
G
I
know
it's
not
on
your
Five-Year
Plan,
because
it's
not
buttoned
up,
but
in
five
years
we're
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
in
a
Hurt
Locker
in
that
area.
There.
G
And
wfrc's
got
some
of
that
stuff.
Going
I
mean
it's
it's
one
of
those
where
we
need
to
take
the
leap
of
faith
that
it's
necessary
and
we
can't
wait
for
another
year
until
another
study
and
we
have
to
push
Harder
Faster
because
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
just
gridlock
that
East
Side
and
we'll
be
ready.
Okay,
so
January
1st
2024,
we'll
love
to
see
it
can't
wait.
G
John
on
that
same
side,
same
line,
it
was
discussion
about
the
airport,
I
love
that
we
have
the
airport
coming
up,
56
and
going
to
the
airport.
But
again
the
airport
traffic
I
know:
we've
had
the
discussion
before
with
Carlson
and
Jay
on
getting
bus
routes
to
the
airport,
whether
it's
a
brt,
whether
it's
dedicated
lines
but
again
with.
We
need
to
take
that
leap
that
we're
going
to
have
all
that
traffic.
G
So
we
need
to
take
that
leap
and
start
buttoning
up
that
plan,
whether
it's
a
dedicated
line
to
the
airport
and
and
throw
that
out
there
and
the
last
thing
I
know
I
think
there's
been
discussions
on
priority
lights,
whether
it's
for
tracks,
because
you
know
when
I
drive
down
four
South
and
I'm
sitting
parked
next
to
the
tracks.
G
W
We
have
two
efforts
simultaneously
underway.
Our
Innovative
Mobility
solutions
group
has
been
working
on
a
Transit
signal:
priority
master
plan
for
buses
and
rolling
that
out
in
partnership
with
UDOT
on
routes
across
the
region.
That's
still
under
development.
We
have
are
finishing
up
a
study
on
a
future
of
Light
Rail.
One
of
the
key
findings
was
that
to
it
identified
19
key
intersections
for
light
rail,
where
we
could,
where
we
think
that
we
can
partner
with
Salt,
Lake,
City,
West,
Valley
and
UDOT,
and
potentially
get
improvements
on
the
light
rail.
W
G
And
then
then,
lastly,
you
kind
of
made
the
comment
that
our
numbers
show
that
we
were
not
meeting
our
demands
before
and
you
know
I
do
happen
to
go
skiing
and
I
used
to
love
taking
the
bus,
but
now
I
have
to
drive
all
the
way
to
Sandy
to
take
the
bus.
So
it's
a
lot
like
further
to
drive
to
that.
I
really
need
to
really
wish
that
we
can
push
hard
with
the
state
side
of
the
house
and
UTA
on
on
the
additional
bus
drivers.
G
I
know
they're
a
shortage
across
the
board,
but
again
boy
those
extra
bus
drivers
will
meet
that
demand
and
we'll
start
seeing
more
ridership.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
effort,
but
also
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
things.
We
got
to
take
the
leap
of
faith
on
and
getting
over
the
goal
line.
So
thank.
A
A
So,
thanks
for
being
here
and
working
with
us
and
let's
continue
to
partner
on
some
of
these
things,
council
members,
we
are
on
item
number
six,
which
is
a
dinner
break
and
dinner
is
here,
but
we
are
20
minutes
early
I
vote
we
just
have
dinner
is
that
okay
and
then
let's
come
back
at
6
40
and
try
and
stay
a
little
bit
ahead
ahead
of
schedule.
So
that's
30
minutes
for
dinner.
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Y
Welcome
to
Capital
City
News
your
source
for
staying,
informed
and
engaged
with
Salt
Lake
City
Government
I'm,
your
host
Brian
Young,
with
Salt
Lake
City
TV.
For
our
interview
this
week,
I
spoke
with
Summer
Meisner,
the
community
preparedness
organizer
for
Salt
Lake
City
about
how
you
could
help
with
a
natural
disaster
struck
Salt
Lake
City
for
our
history
minute.
We
took
a
look
at
the
1993
All-Star
basketball
game
before
we
get
to
those,
though,
let's
take
a
look
at
our
legislative
update
and
our
look
backs.
E
The
council
also
received
briefings
on
a
loan
to
43
bakeries,
streusel
LLC
from
the
city's
economic
development
loan
fund,
the
open
meetings
and
government
records
annual
training
and
expanding
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure
throughout
the
city.
To
learn
more
about
these
issues
or
any
others,
please
visit
slc.gov
Council.
E
In
December,
mayor
Mendenhall
signed
an
emergency
order
authorizing
homeless
Resource
Centers
in
Salt
Lake
City
to
further
expand
their
capacity.
This
allowed
for
25
added
beds
at
each
of
the
two
shelters
in
the
Salt
Lake
City
boundaries
and
Mill
Creek
and
South
Salt
Lake
agreed
to
do
the
same
with
their
shelters.
This
added
nearly
100
beds
to
the
system
as
a
whole.
AA
Emergency
Management
is
about
prevention
mitigation,
educating
the
public
on
what
to
do
in
the
event
of
a
disaster
how
to
help
themselves
because,
as
First
Responders,
we
may
not
be
able
to
get
to
you
right
away,
have
to
take
some
Life
Safety
priorities
so
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
be
resilient
on
their
own.
So
we
have
a
better
chance
of
building
up
after
a
disaster.
I
am
the
assert
program.
Manager
and
cert
stands
for
Community,
Emergency,
Response
Team,
and
what
that
is?
AA
It's
a
team
of
volunteer
community
members
who
are
trained
in
basic
medical
skills,
disaster
psychology,
light
search
and
rescue
fire
safety,
and
we
really
rely
on
these
community
members
in
the
event
of
a
disaster,
because
First
Responders
and
our
resources
for
the
city
can
easily
be
overwhelmed
in
a
large-scale
event.
So
we
rely
on
these
community
members
to
be
trained
and
know
what
to
do
and
how
to
help
their
neighbors
until
First
Responders
can
get
to
you
and
we
can
get
you
the
assistance
and
care
that
we
need
for
any
Community
member.
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The
competition
was
fierce
between
the
best
teams
the
NBA
had
to
offer
and
the
game
went
into
overtime,
but
it
was
Malone
in
Stockton
who
scored
the
winning
points
for
the
Western
Conference,
making
them
the
champions
for
the
year.
In
a
close
135
to
132
point
game,
the
two
of
them
on
their
home
turf
were
awarded
co-mvp
status
for
the
game
representing
Utah.
Well,
Malone
scored
an
impressive
28
points
and
Stockton
racked
up
15
assists
the
NBA
All-Star
Game
would
not
return
to
Utah
again
for
30
years
coming
back
in
2023.
Y
That's
it
for
another
episode
of
capital
city
news.
Remember.
The
best
way
to
stay
engaged
is
to
stay
informed.
You
can
do
that
by
following
us
on
social
media
at
slcgov,
subscribing
to
us
on
YouTube
or
watching
us
on
channel
17.,
so
reporting
in
from
the
public
safety
building
here
in
Salt
Lake
City,
I'm,
Brian,
Young.
Y
Welcome
to
Capital
City
News
your
source
for
staying,
informed
and
engaged
with
Salt
Lake
City
Government
I'm,
your
host
Brian
Young,
with
SLC
TV.
On
our
episode
this
week
we
spoke
with
Salt
Lake
city
mayor
Aaron,
Mendenhall
about
a
new
approach
to
homelessness.
Our
history
minute
is
about
a
star
of
Star
Trek
and
his
Christmas
Carol.
Before
we
get
to
those.
Let's
take
a
look
at
our
look
back,
our
look
ahead
and
our
legislative
update.
E
E
This
holiday
season
remember
to
choose
local
and
Shop
SLC.
Did
you
know
that
55
cents
of
every
dollar
spent
at
a
local,
independent
business
stays
right
here
in
our
local
economy?
That
number
drops
to
14
cents
if
you
shop
at
a
big
box,
store,
find
gifts
for
everyone
on
your
list
right
here
in
Salt,
Lake,
City,.
E
City
council,
member
Dan,
Dugan
and
city
council
member
Annabelle
demoros
both
hosted
World
Cup
watch
parties
in
their
districts,
while
Team
USA
is
not
progressing
to
the
finals.
We
had
a
great
time
cheering
them
on
with
our
fellow
salt
Lakers
check
the
city
council's
social
media
for
updates
on
other
events
happening
this
winter
Salt
Lake
City
has
partnered
with
the
Utah
rent
relief
program
to
provide
rental
assistance
to
our
residents.
This
holiday
season
apply
today
at
rentrelief.utah.gov
or
by
calling
2-1-1.
Y
Salt
Lake
City
snow
Fighters
are
committed
to
clearing
the
streets
of
snow
and
ice
within
36
hours
of
snow
storm
during
a
storm.
They
work
24
7,
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
traveling
public,
to
open
emergency
routes
to
hospitals
and
fire
stations
and
ensure
school
buses
have
safe
routes
to
get
kids
to
school.
There's
also,
a
dedicated
team
that
works
to
clear
city,
sidewalks
and
bike
Lanes.
Y
Ensuring
all
modes
of
travel
have
safe
paths
in
December,
the
streets
division
put
the
names
of
some
of
their
snow
plows
up
for
a
vote
and
the
winning
name
was
sled
Zeppelin
10
snow
plows
were
named
in
all
and
if
you
keep
your
eye
out
during
the
next
storm,
you
might
catch
one
driving
by
foreign.
For
our
interview
this
week,
I
sat
down
with
Salt
Lake
city
mayor
Aaron
Mendenhall,
to
talk
about
a
new
novel
approach
to
dealing
with
homelessness
issues
in
Salt,
Lake
City
through
a
Cooperative
model.
Z
Homelessness
has
been
the
biggest
struggle
that
our
city
has
faced
longer
than
I've
been
the
mayor,
and
the
reason
I
would
say,
for
that
is
that
the
city
has
stood
alone
largely
in
trying
to
address
what
is
actually
not
a
city-specific
issue,
but
a
Statewide,
a
regional,
even
a
national
issue
that
takes
the
cooperation
of
different
levels
of
government
and
the
insistence
that
we
work
together
on
solutions
that
actually
work
that
address
the
root
causes
of
an
issue.
Now
the
criminal
justice
system,
as
the
solution
for
mental
illness,
is
never
an
equation.
Z
Z
Well
is
those
who
are
experiencing
mental
health
needs
even
severe
mental
illness
with
homelessness,
and
the
only
mechanism
for
serving
those
individuals
has
been
the
criminal
justice
system,
which
was
never
built
to
successfully
serve
or
meet
those
Health
needs.
Criminalizing
mental
health
is
not
the
route,
but
it's
the
only
path.
Z
That's
been
available
since
the
early
80s,
really
we've
been
exploring
other
parts
of
the
country
that
have
recognized
the
same
deficiencies
that
our
system
have
but
have
knit
together
a
much
more
Humane
and
a
better
system
that
actually
saves
a
lot
of
money
overall
and
most
of
all
provide
services
that
simply
don't
exist.
Today.
Z
Miami
is
one
of
those
places
and
we
sent
some
staff
down
several
months
ago
from
governor's
office
through
the
county,
Justice
System
jails,
Police
Department
Department
in
my
office,
and
asked
our
staff
to
come
back
and
let
us
know
if
this
was
a
model
worth
investigating
at
a
deeper
level.
A
few
weeks
ago,
representatives
from
State,
County
City
organizations
and
the
courts
went
down
to
Miami
and
took
a
couple
of
days
to
do
a
deep
dive
with
those
organizers.
Z
That
housing
is
going
to
be
case,
managed
and
supported.
You're
going
to
have
access
to
the
mental
Behavior.
Behavioral
Health
needs
that
you
have
today
and
we're
going
to
stay
with
you
for
at
least
a
year
of
these
Services
being
provided.
There
are
peers,
who've
been
through
the
program
before
and
who
are
there
as
a
support
for
these
individuals
and
in
22
years
of
existence?
They've
never
had
a
person
say
I'll
take
jail
over
this
program.
Z
They've
actually
been
able
to
close
a
jail
about
a
decade
into
the
program
because
they've
reduced
the
number
of
bookings
so
dramatically,
and
that
is
something
not
only
that
we
want
to
do,
but
we
should
be
doing
here
in
Utah.
We
all
came
back,
enthusiastic
and
ready
to
get
to
work
on
the
next
steps
of
figuring
out
what
it's
going
to
take,
because
it
is
going
to
take
change
and
commitment
at
every
level
of
the
process.
Z
This
integration
is
not
something
that
any
City
could
do
on
its
own
and
would
never
have
the
funding
to
do
on
their
own.
The
relationship
part
of
this
between
the
state,
the
county,
the
city,
the
service
providers,
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
is
so
critical,
and
it's
not
only
exciting
that
we
have
found
a
model
that
we
want
to
implement
here
in
Utah
and
in
Salt
Lake
City,
but
that
we
have
the
partners
who
are
saying
yes,
I'm,
going
to
stop
putting
my
fists
up
and
saying.
Z
Y
In
a
one
night,
only
performance
of
his
one-man
staged
version
of
A
Christmas
Carol.
In
many
ways
the
performance
Stewart
offered
mimicked
the
one-person
readings
of
the
story
that
Dickens
himself
was
known
for
in
his
time.
At
the
end
of
the
performance.
After
a
long-standing
Ovation
and
a
number
of
curtain
calls,
the
captain
of
the
Enterprise
reminded
the
audience
that
The
Bleak
Outlook
of
dickensian
London
was
all
too
relevant
in
the
modern
world
and
he
encouraged
the
audience
to
make
Financial
contributions
to
worthy
causes
throughout
the
holiday
season.
Y
That's
it
for
another
episode
of
capital
city
news.
Remember.
The
best
way
to
stay
engaged
is
to
stay
informed.
You
can
do
that
by
following
us
on
social
media
at
slcgov,
subscribing
to
us
on
YouTube
or
watching
us
on
channel
17.,
so
reporting
in
from
the
halls
of
City
Hall
at
the
city
and
county
building,
I'm
Brian
Young
foreign.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
A
Okay,
Salt
Lake
City.
We
are
back
from
our
break
and
we
are
on
item
number
seven,
which
is
informational,
update
on
the
Safe
Drinking
Water,
Act,
lead
and
copper
rule
changes
and
at
the
table
we
have
Sam
Owen,
Council
policy,
analyst
Laura
briefer,
director
of
Public
Utilities
Marion
rice,
the
deputy
director
of
Public
Utilities,
Dustin
white,
the
regulatory
program
manager
and
Teresa
gray,
water
quality
and
treatment
administrator
welcome
and
go
ahead.
Sam.
AB
AB
Salt
Lake
City
operates
safety
programs
to
Monitor
and
eliminate
heavy
metal.
Contaminants
like
lead
and
copper.
New
federal
and
state
requirements
are
in
motion
and
are
likely
to
come
online
or
or
become
requirements
in
2024.
So
this
briefing
is
meant
to
orient
the
council
and
public
to
the
nature
of
these
forthcoming
changes
and
changes
that
are
being
implemented
between
now
and
then.
Additional
future
requirements
could
result
in
new
costs
to
the
water
utility
and
to
customers.
P
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
us
to
give
you
this
briefing
today.
This
is
a
big
programmatic
change
for
the
public
utilities
department
and
pretty
much
all
Public
Water
Systems
Across
the
Nation,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
years-long
programmatic
change.
With
a
lot
of
public
engagement,
there
will
likely
be
federal
grants
that
will
be
applying
for
and
coming
to
you
for
approval
on
as
well,
and
so
we
really
wanted
to
give
you
just
an
informational
overview.
As
we
start
rolling
out
this.
P
This
program,
we've
already
touched
bases
with
the
public
and
community
in
certain
events
right
now,
so
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're
prepared,
if
you
have
questions
or
no
no,
to
come
to
us
for
questions
regarding
this
too
so
I
do
have
some
staff
here
who
have
been
working
hard
on
this
programmatic
change.
We
have
Theresa
gray,
who's,
our
water
quality
and
treatment
administrator.
P
He
is
our
regulatory
program
manager
and
when
we
as
a
department,
started
evaluating
early
on
in
epa's
process
when
we
were
setting
when
they
were
setting
these
rules,
we're
looking
to
to
staff
to
run
this
program
and
Dustin
stepped
up
to
the
plate,
and
he
is
just
doing
an
amazing
job,
very
systematic,
very
good
with
our
community
and
engagement.
So
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Dustin.
To
give
you
a
presentation
on
the
lead
and
copper
rule
which
similar
to
UTA,
we
get
little
serotonin
hits
from
that
yeah.
M
AC
AC
Many
years,
based
from
some
of
the
former
rules
but
I'll,
be
going
over
some
of
the
role
revisions
and
what
we're
doing
currently
with
the
program.
Firstly,
here's
our
service
area
next
slide.
Sorry,
so
this
will
affect
all
of
Salt
Lake
City's
water
district,
not
just
Salt,
Lake,
City,
proper,
so
portions
of
Mill,
Creek
holiday,
Cottonwood,
Heights,
Murray,
Midvale,
South,
Salt,
Lake
and
all
of
Salt
Lake
City
will
be
a
part
of
this
program
to
implement
this
program
we've.
It's
basically
is
a
kind
of
a
wide
stretching
throughout
our
department.
AC
We
really
need
to
coordinate
with
all
of
our
people
in
our
department,
starting
with
our
Administration.
Oh
next
slide,
starting
with
our
Administration
and
and
lucky
for
us
that
we've
had
support
to
kind
of
be
ahead
of
some
of
the
changes
that
are
coming
and
we've
been
able
to
be
on
top
of
it,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
touches
Finance
engineering,
our
field
staff,
operation,
maintenance,
our
GIS
teams-
and
you
know,
we've
hired
on
some
Consultants
as
well
to
help
with
us.
AC
So
how
does
lead
and
copper
get
into
drinking
water?
The
answer
to
that
is
basically,
oh.
Next
slide:
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
my
first
time
being
telling
people
to
do
that.
I'm
used
to
control
myself.
So
how
does
lead
and
copper
get
into
drinking
water?
It
primarily
is
leeched
in
by
older
Plumbing
materials
from
corrosion,
some
contributing
factors
to
lead
or
copper
in
drinking
Waters.
AC
If
you
have
older,
faucets
or
fixtures
that
are
older
than
2014
before
1986,
if
you
have
copper
pipe
that
used
lead
solder
to
connect
those
sometimes
can
get
in
that
that
way,
and
then
lead
service
lines
which
are
sometimes
found
in
older
homes.
They
used
leads
for
the
service
lines
to
the
house.
Salt
Lake
City
regularly
monitors
our
distribution
system,
and
it
has
shown
up
to
this
point
that
our
samples
for
lead
has
has
been
non-detect
in
our
distribution
system.
AC
So
we
feel
pretty
confident
about
the
water
that
we're
delivering
and
see
it
more
so
as
promised
plumbing
and
when
it's
delivered.
So
why
is
this
important
next
slide?
Please,
there
are
some
health
effects
of
lead
if
consumed,
so
it
can
cause
damage
to
brain
blood
and
kidneys.
Children
under
six
or
most
at
risk
risk
from
impacts
of
lead
and
can
cause
behavioral
problems,
lowered
IQ
and
some
learning
disabilities.
So
you
know
it's
a
big
priority
for
us.
AC
AC
I'm
in
2011
there
was
a
ruling
to
reduce
the
amount
of
lead
content
in
plumbing
fixtures
from
eight
percent
down
to
0.25
percent,
and
then
in
2014
there
was
the
Flint
Michigan
Water
Crisis
I'm
sure
most
people
are
familiar
with
that
and
what
had
happened
there
just
as
an
overview,
they
switched
water
sources
from
Lake
Huron,
which
was
a
high
water
quality
source
to
Flint
River,
which
was
a
lower
quality
source
that
was
more
corrosive
so
once
they
switched
over
to
that
water
and
it
was
more
corrosive
and
lower
quality.
AC
They
also
had
to
treat
the
water
more
with
disinfection,
which
made
it
more
corrosive
so
as
it
ran
through
a
city
with
older
pipes
and
plumbing
it
corroded.
Some
of
that
lead
and
basically
exposed
you
know:
100
000
people
to
high
levels
of
lead,
including
six
thousand
to
twelve
thousand
children,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
big
driver
for
some
changes
to
the
lead
and
copper
rules.
In
2021
the
Lynn
copper
rule
revisions
was
was
published
when
it
was
published.
AC
We
were
going
through
Administration
change,
a
federal
Administration
change,
so
the
Biden
Administration
put
a
freeze
on
on
this
rule,
so
they
could
review
it
before
they
put
it
into
an
effective
date.
AC
So
as
they
reviewed
that
rule,
they
noticed
that
there
were
room
for
improvements
for
the
rule
revision,
but
they
didn't
want
to
go
ahead
and
kick
the
can
down
the
road
more
to
wait
to
get
started
on
this,
so
they
went
ahead
and
and
made
the
effective
date
of
December
2021,
with
basically
the
caveat
like
here's,
the
new
rule,
but
we're
going
to
make
improvements
to
this
that
are
going
to
be
due
in
2024.
So
they
want
basically
people
to
get
started
on
this
as
they
make
improvements
to
the
current
rule
and
next
slide.
AC
So
what's
in
the
lead
and
copper
rule
revisions
on
this
slide,
I
just
have
one
highlighted,
because
this
is
the
one
component
that
led
service
line.
Inventory
is
what
the
EPA
has
said
that
won't
change
with
the
improvements
rule,
although
these
are
all
currently
in
the
rule
and
basically
will
probably
be
more
prescriptive,
rather
than
less
with
improvements
that
come
in
2024,
so
it
lets
service
line.
Inventory
will
basically
require
us
to
inventory
what
type
of
Plumbing
material
folks
have
from
our
main
into
the
house.
AC
So
that's
separated
by
the
meter
lots
of
time
so
what's
unique
about
this,
is
we
have
to
inventory
private
Side
Plumbing,
which
we
typically
haven't
done
in
historically,
so
it's
a
unique
part
of
this
rule.
Also
with
that
led
service
line
inventory
we'll
have
to
make
it
publicly
available,
so
people
can
find
out
what
type
of
service
line
they
have
coming
into
their
home
and
then
we'll
have
to
do
annual
notifications
for
folks
that
have
led
service
lines
or
if
we
don't
know
what
the
type
of
material
their
service
line
is.
AC
Another
portion
of
it
is
the
lead
service
line
replacement
and
we
basically
have
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
systematically
remove
lead
from
our
system.
This
is
kind
of
expedited
if
our
sampling
we
have
to
sample
as
part
of
the
rule,
that's
been
part
of
the
original
rule
as
well,
but
if
we
have
samples
that
come
above
the
Action
level
of
the
90th
percentile,
then
it
puts
us
in
a
new
category
where
we
have
to
do
expedited
replacement
and
they've
set
it
at
three
percent
per
year,
including
all
unknowns
and
Lead
service
lines.
AC
You
know
it
was
just
one
sample
that
you
took
first
flush
and
you
analyzed
that
this
one's
going
to
be
a
first
and
a
fifth
leader,
so
they're
trying
to
identify
that
service
line
by
taking
the
fifth
leader,
basically
one
two
three
four:
five
bottles:
analyze
the
first
and
Fifth,
and
hopefully
that
fifth,
if
there's
lead
on
that
service
line,
we'll
analyze,
that
they've
also
put
in
a
program
where
we
have
to
monitor
schools
and
daycares,
where
we'll
have
to
sample
schools
and
child
licensed
child
care
facilities
for
lead
and
copper.
AC
Luckily,
for
us,
the
state
legislator
put
into
place
House
Bill
21,
in
which
they're
requiring
all
schools
to
sample
for
lead
by
the
end
of
2023,
so
we've
been
kind
of
preliminary
working
with
them
and
we
worked
with
them.
This
Summer
a
little
bit
on
on
getting
some
of
that
in
place,
but
we'll
have
to
sample
all
those
within
the
first
five
years
of
the
compliance
date,
which
is
2024,
10,
16,
2024.
AC
and
then
another
component
is
corrosion
control
treatment
which
typically
because
of
our
high
water
quality,
we
don't
need
to
implement.
But
if
we
have
an
exceedance
in
that
sampling,
that
I
mentioned,
then
we'll
kind
of
fall
in
that
category.
Where
we'll
have
to
do
some
studies
and
see,
if
that's
that's
something
that
we
need
to
do,
Public,
Communication
and
Outreach
is
a
big
component
of
this
there's
a
lot
of
required
language.
AC
If,
if
we
have
exceedances
and
if,
if
we
do
replace
service
lines,
you
know
we
have
to
go
out
to
customers,
tell
them
how
to
flush
their
system
ways.
They
can
limit
their
exposure
to
lead
if
a
lead
line
has
been
disrupted
or
removed,
because
sometimes
when
they
do
that
it'll
break
some
and
they'll
see
some
impact
Downstream.
So
we
need
to
do
that
as
well
as
provide
them
with
a
filter.
AC
That's
certified
to
remove
lead,
so
those
are
just
a
couple
components
of
of
these
rules
and,
like
I,
said
that
improvements
rule
will
likely
have
some
changes
to
you
know
some
of
those
great
out
components,
so
our
Focus
right
now
is
kind
of
on
the
lead
service
line
inventory
one
because
we
know
it's
not
going
to
change,
but
two,
it's
kind
of
the
Catalyst
for
all
these
other
programs
anyways.
Without
a
good
inventory,
we
really
can't
provide
a
replacement
plan
or
sampling
or
any
kind
of
corrosion
control
next
slide.
AC
AC
Do
our
sampling
plans
do
and
then
we're
due
to
start
notifying
customers
that
if
we
know
they
have
a
lead
line
to,
let
them
know
or
if
their
service
lines
unknown
will
start
notifying
customers
at
that
point
and
we'll
also
start
the
filter
distribution.
At
that
point
anytime,
we
know
of
a
lead
service
line
being
sorry
question
no.
X
AC
Sorry,
oh
next
slide
Mr.
H
AC
Yeah
so
I
we
have
created
a
inventory
and
I'll
get
to
it
in
a
sec,
but
there's
a
lot
more
unknowns
than
than
anything
else.
At
this
point
because
of
what
I
said,
the
private
side
there's
just
no
records
for
it,
because
you
know
there's
never
been
a
need
when
we
don't
own
it,
but
you
know
I,
don't
think
anybody
anticipated.
AC
We
would
be
responsible
for
understanding
that
so
in
these
next
couple,
slides
I'll
kind
of
go
over
the
progression
of
us
trying
to
identify
how
many
we
have
and
and
what
what
we've
done.
AC
So
historically,
we
have
made
efforts
to
reduce
lead
in
drinking
water.
It's
not
really
a
new
thing
that
that
lead
piping
isn't
good.
They
kind
of
phase
it
out
in
the
30s
and
40s,
even
though
the
rule
didn't
go
into
place
till
1986..
AC
So
a
few
things
we've
been
doing
as
a
department.
Historically
is
any
time
we
come
upon
a
lead
service
line
and
we
have
for
many
years.
We
we
remove
it
and
since
1950
we've
Copper's
been
our
standard
to
use
in
employing
service
lines.
So
that's
one
thing
and
then,
if
we
find
a
privately
owned
lead
service
line
when
we're
Excavating
or
doing
a
replacement
or
whatever
we
notify
the
homeowner
and
a
lot
of
times,
the
guys
leave
it
excavated.
AC
So
if
the
homeowner
wants
to
replace
it
themselves,
you
know
that's
a
big
cost
of
Excavating
it.
So
if
it's
already
excavated,
you
know
some
of
them
may
be
able
to
to
replace
at
that
point
and
then
we've
just
historically
had
low
results
of
lead
during
our
compliance
sampling
with
the
91
rule,
all
of
our
sampling
has
been
way
below
many
action
levels,
so
we're
actually
on
reduced
monitoring
standard
monitorings
every
year.
We
only
have
to
do
it
every
third
year
because
we're
well
below
those
action
limits.
AC
G
Do
you
think,
will
you
talk
about
sampling,
I,
used
to
talk
about
the
water
going
into
the
water
treatment
plant
and
just
sampling
at
that
point
or
sampling
it
at
a
house
at
houses.
AC
What
we
have
been
doing,
since
the
new
revision,
though,
is
we
actually
have
a
pilot
that
we've
been
doing
as
far
as
sampling
and
inspections,
and
you
know
we
we've
set
out
to
be
more
targeted
for
homes
that
actually
have
led
and
have
been
verified,
and
you
know
we
have.
We
set
that
for
about
50
homes
and
we're
at
about
30
at
this
point
of
ones
that
we're
looking
at
so
hope
we're
hoping
to
get
some
good
data
from
from.
AC
We
sample
within
our
distribution
system
and
those
ones
are
all
typically
non-detect
and
from
our
treatment
plant
non-detect,
but
the
rule
is
kind
of
pointed
at
kind
of
premise:
Plumbing
at
people's
homes,
private
premise,
plumbing,
and
so
that's
a
little
bit
nuanced
and
sampling.
You
know
getting
people
to
volunteer
and
things
like
that.
AC
Let's
see,
and
so
let's
see
where
we're
at
so
the
current
status
and
risk
for
lead.
As
I
mentioned
you,
we
have
ongoing
sampling
for
lead
in
our
distribution
system
that
have
been
non-detect.
We
monitor
our
treatment
plants
for
corrosivity.
Typically,
corrosion
control
treatment
does
not
need
to
be
implemented
because
of
the
natural
hardness
and
high
quality
of
our
water.
AC
AC
But
one
part,
is
you
get
that
skill
on
the
inside
of
a
pipe
and
it
protects
you
from
the
lead
because
it
creates
a
barrier
between
the
water
and
the
lead,
so
usually
I
bring
like
a
pipe
to
these
presentations,
and
you
can
actually
see
like
the
coating
of
calcium
and
magnesium
on
the
inside
of
it.
AC
So
that's
one
reason
that
I
think
we've
had
such
good
results
sampling
in
the
past
and
then
just
as
a
department,
we've
kind
of
identified
that
we
think
the
greatest
risk
from
lead
typically
comes
from
old,
older,
private
premise.
Plumbing,
you
know
homes
that
haven't
made
updates,
or
you
know,
yeah
or
school.
So
you
know
any
fixtures
that
are
older
than
2014
that
have
that
higher
lead
content
or
the
lead
solder
are
kind
of
areas
that
we've
seen
in
the
past
so
next
slide.
AC
AC
P
AC
So
Copper's
was
originally
in
the
rule
and
there's
been
no
changes
to
Copper.
It's
still
the
same
limit.
It
doesn't
have
the
same
Health
impacts
as
lead.
Does
you
know
it
has
some
gastrointestinal
issues
and,
and
typically
we
haven't
seen
issues
with
it
nationwide.
It
hasn't
been
as
much
as
a
problem.
So
really,
when
I
first
wrote
this
presentation
up,
I
wrote
lead
in
like
40
font
and
then
copper
was
like
in
you
know
a
little
teeny
fonts,
because
that's
really
how
it
feels
like
with
the
rules
so.
AC
So
these
older
homes,
particularly
you,
know
the
Avenues
in
these
areas,
even
Andrew
Gruber
that
was
over
here
sampled-
is
so
yeah.
We
we
started
with
kind
of
working
out
the
process
in-house,
because
we
had
a
lot
of
people
with
old
homes,
even
mine
and
really
that's
the
one
thing
that
got
me
kind
of
interested
in
this
program
is
when
it
was
first
announced
that
would
come
out.
We
had
an
infant,
then
we
weren't
able
to
breastfeed.
So
we
were,
my
wife
was
like.
AC
Oh
can
I
use
this
with
formula
and
me
being
Mr
water
quality
for
15
years
said,
of
course
you
can.
You
know
we
got
the
best
water
and
you
know
then
this
rule
started
coming
out
and
I
go
whoa.
Our
house
was
built
in
1939,
wow,
I
didn't
I,
don't
even
know
what
our
service
line
is.
AC
So
then
I
go
down
check
lucky
for
us
is
Galvanized,
but
you
know
that
kind
of
lit
a
fire
under
me,
because
here
I
am
a
professional
who,
who
you
know
didn't
think
about
it,
and
what
about
you
know
anybody
else
who
potentially
could
be
in
our
community.
So
you
know
that's
just
one
thing
that
makes
this
passionate
for
me.
So.
AC
Okay,
if
next
slide
so
I'll
just
overview,
what
a
service
line
is
you
mentioned
it's
from
the
water
main
into
the
house.
What's
unique
about
us
is
that
it's
shared
ownership
between
the
city
and
and
the
private
homeowner.
So
that's
a
unique
component
for
us
trying
to
work
this
out
next
slide.
AC
This
is
our
current
status
for
our
inventory.
I
know
he
had
asked
how
many
we
currently
have
in
our
system.
I
highlighted
right
here.
The
customer
owned
portion
that
we
don't
know
the
unknown
portion
is
67
000.
So
that's
a
pretty
big
number
for
us
to
to
try
to
get
down
and
the
reason
why
that's
significant
is
because,
if
we
have
an
exceedance
in
our
sampling,
we'll
have
to
replace
three
percent
of
not
only
the
known
lead
service
lines,
but
anything,
that's
unknown.
That
potentially
could
be
led,
so
believe
it
or
not.
AC
When
we
first
did
our
very
first
inventory,
we
only
had
six
lead
service
lines,
so
we've
actually
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
to
get
to
112
and
it
shows
five
on
here.
City
owned.
These
are
ones
that
just
haven't
been
vetted
yet
once
they're
vetted,
we'll
either
replace
them
or
take
them
off
our
list.
If
they're
not
LED,
are
these.
AC
So
we
have
87
000
service
lines
and
then
we
break
it
into
private
side
and
public
side.
So
we
know
most
of
what
our
material
is
on.
The
private
side
is
where
we
don't
know
where
it
is
and
that's
where
you
know
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
in
the
communities
and
doing
inspections.
AC
Are
all
so
if
we
can
go
back
to
the
other
slide
and
I'll
try
to
be
quick
if
you
can
buzz
back
one,
you
can
kind
of
see
from
our
main
that
it's
basically
that
service
line
from
the
main
in
the
street
that's
going
into
the
house.
That's
the
service
line
and
our
portion
is
the
one
that's
up
to
the
meter
and
then
privately
owned
is
the
other
side.
So
we're
not
responsible
to
do
any
replacement,
but
we
are
responsible
to
try
to
inventory
that
private
side,
maybe.
P
To
expand
on
that,
the
our
the
city's
water
mains
are
not
LED,
they
do
not
contain
lead
material
and
when
Dustin
talks
about
sampling
the
distribution
system
he's
talking
about
the
public
part
of
the
distribution
system,
the
the
city's
water
mains
and
that's
where
we
have
had
not
no
detections
of
lead
and
that
really
for
us,
what
that
points
to
is
is
really
the
focus
for
Salt
Lake
City
under
these
lead
and
copper.
Rural
revisions
is
the
the
service
lines
and
the
premise
Plumbing.
AC
Yeah
and
one
part
of
that
is,
there's
just
not
really
a
lot
of
lead.
That's
over
one
inch,
so
you
know
any
of
our
distribution
lines
that
are
bigger
than
that.
You
know
we
typically
can
kind
of
assume
those
aren't
LED
anyways,
even
though
we
didn't
use
them
so
next
slide
and
next
slide.
So
how
do
we
get
this
unknown
number
down?
We
had
67
000
on
there,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
methods
to
kind
of
go
about
it.
One
thing
that
we've
been
doing
is
training.
AC
Our
staff
I
mean
we've
trained
over
250
employees
on
this
Rule
and
and
that
we
need
to
identify
stuff.
We've
did
pre,
we've
done
presentations
for
our
advisory
committee
and
the
Utah
water
quality
Alliance
and
we've
been
doing
tabling
events
in
Poplar,
Grove,
Avenues
and
and
Rose
Park
to
you,
know,
kind
of
get
the
word
out
and
then
ongoing
field
work.
You
know
when
our
guys
are
out
in
the
field.
Hopefully
they
can
identify
what
what
they're
seeing
out
there
and
those
are
the
two
components
that
are
required
by
rule.
AC
The
rest
of
this
is
kind
of
you
know,
above
and
beyond,
to
to
identify
those
I
mentioned
the
inspection
and
sampling
program.
Customer
inputs,
a
big
one,
that
if
we
can
get
a
customer
to
be
like
hey
I,
replaced
my
service
line
last
year.
We
know
it's
not
LED,
you
know
or
if
they
can
go
down
and
like
I
said
we
created
a
survey,
that's
on
our
website
that
walks
them
through
how
to
identify
it.
They
can
go
down.
AC
Look
at
it
either
send
us
a
picture
and
we
can
look
at
it
where
they
can
say,
hey.
I
know
this
is
copper.
You
know
you
can
update
the
inventory
based
off
that
and
then
potholing
excavation
is
another
way
that
kind
of
a
more
expensive
way
to
to
see
what's
in
the
ground.
If
we
dig
a
hole
and
look
at
the
pipe,
we
can
see
it.
AC
Computer
modeling
is
another
way.
Once
we
have
enough
inputs,
we
can.
We
can
run
that
through
a
model
and
it
can
predict,
hopefully
what
what
we
have
next
slide.
This
kind
of
reiterates
the
last
slide
it.
Basically,
it
was
a
case
study,
the
AWA
that
basically
had
the
most
cost
effective
ways
to
identify
service
lines
and
basically
says
records
review.
You
know
looking
at
Plumbing
records
or
information,
we
already
have
customer
surveys
and
then
inspections,
excavation
and
predictive
modeling
are
on
there.
Next
slide.
AC
AC
Even
you
know,
like
I,
said
that
we
have
a
survey
on
there,
so
they
can
input
the
information
to
us
or
send
it
to
us,
and
we
hope
to
do
more
of
it
and
us
coming
here
and
let
you
guys
know
about
it
is
kind
of
part
of
that
public,
education
and
Outreach
to
say:
hey.
We
have
this
program,
we
want
to
identify
people's
service
lines.
So
if
you
get
any
questions,
you
know
send
them
our
way,
and
you
know
we.
We
have
some
resources
to
help
them
kind
of
identify
it.
H
All
of
us
have
like
newsletters
that
we
send
and
we
have
a
pretty
robust
social
media.
So
if
you
know,
if
you
remind
us
regularly,
we
can
add
it
to
our
newsletters
and
make
a
push
in
our
communities
and
the
administration
does
visit
with
all
the
community
councils.
You
know
so
that
might
be
an
extra
help
to
push.
AC
And
that's
kind
of
what
we're
hoping
to
do
next
is
go
to
these
individual
communities
that
we
can
talk
to,
and
you
know
let
them
know
especially
older
home
ones,
so
program
priorities,
we've
prioritized
children,
one!
Oh
next
slide:
we've
we've
prioritized
children
just
because
they're
the
most
sensitive
to
lead
exposure,
so
children
under
six
environmental
justice
we've.
AC
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
our
disadvantaged
communities
and
you
know
look
at
at
those
areas
as
well
and
then
older
homes,
you
know,
are
typically
the
most
likely
ones
that
are
going
to
have
lead.
So
we've
kind
of
been
looking
at
stuff,
50s
and
older.
We've
found
that
30s
and
older,
even
you,
know,
kind
of
more
likely
to
have
them.
So
those
are
some
of
our
priorities
that
we
that
we've
done
thus
far
Dustin.
P
I
think
it's
important
also
on
those
program
priorities
to
note
that
we've
been
working
really
closely
with
the
state
division
of
drinking
water
and
setting
these
priorities.
So
the
priorities
that
we
have
started
setting
with
this
program
are
in
alignment
with
them
and
even
went
to
the
extent
of
recommending
changes
to
the
state's
intended
use
plan
when
we're
talking
about
environmental
justice
and
disadvantaged
communities
to
make
some
changes
in
how
money
is
appropriated
through
the
state
revolving
fund
to
look
at
disadvantaged
communities
by
ZIP
code
or
census
tract,
which
is
a
great
Improvement.
P
AC
P
Tuesday,
yes,
there
are
and
I
think
do
you
have
a
slide
on.
AC
This
is
our
EJ
screen
that
we
came
up
with
using
the
the
epa's
index,
but
if
you
jump
to
the
next
slide,
has
some
of
the
funding
available
so,
like
Laura
said
probably
more
eloquently
than
I'll
say:
there's
15
billion
dollars
from
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
also
known
as
the
infrastructure
investment
jobs
act.
So
that's
geared
just
for
lead.
Pipe
programs
like
this
and,
like
she
said,
that's
going
to
be
pushed
down
to
the
state
to
go
through
the
state
revolving
fund,
which
typically
said
as
a
city
as
a
whole.
AC
If
you
meet
the
hardship
criteria,
but
something
great
that
our
Administration
has
been
able
to
do
with
the
state
is
to
break
that
into
neighborhoods.
So
we
have
an
opportunity
to
qualify
for
some
of
that
funding
because
you
know
when
you
run
it
as
a
whole.
It
just
doesn't
really
tell
the
whole
story
so
we're
hoping
to
get
some
funds
from
from
that
program
next
slide.
AC
So
a
big
question
is
always:
how
much
is
this
going
to
cost?
This
is
really
preliminary
with
our
inventory
and
we've
kind
of
run,
some
some
high
level
numbers,
but
you
know
Nationwide.
This
is
going
on
and
there's
some
some
systems
and
cities
that
did
have
lead
problems
in
the
past,
so
they
were
forced
to
do
something
kind
of
before
anything
was
going
on
and
you
know
Denver's
one
of
them.
AC
They
have
84
000
homes
that
they
think
have
led
that
you
know
it's
going
to
cost
about
500
million
and
American
Water
Works
Association
estimates
that
there's
six
million
lead
service
lines
throughout
the
us.
That'll
cost
you
know
close
to
30
billion
and
I
know.
Chicago
has
like
300
000
service
lines,
so
we're
not
really
in
the
same
boat
as
those
guys.
But
you
know
this
is
going
on
Nationwide.
AC
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
kind
of
dealing
with
this
next
slide,
just
a
couple
more
examples
of
some
cities
and
what
they're
doing
these
are
cities
that
have
had
exceedances
in
the
past,
so
they're
forced
to
do
something
but
Denver
Water.
You
know
they're,
basically
going
in
and
replacing
any
lead
service
line,
private
or
public
at
no
cost
to
the
homeowner
and
they're
doing
that
through
a
variety
of
ways.
You
know
raids,
bonds.
They
have
some
loans
and
grants
that
they've
got
as
well.
AC
Cincinnati
also
had
some
issues
with
lead,
so
they're
they're
doing
something
as
well
where
they've
you
know
raised
some
rates
to
kind
of
help,
replace
the
city's
side
and
then
for
the
private
sides.
They're
they've
created,
like
a
credit
that
they
give
to
customers
that
are
like.
Oh,
you
know,
you
have
a
lead
line.
You
want
to
replace
it.
P
So
Dustin
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
point
that
in
the
program
in
the
programmatic
sense,
we
don't
have
recommendations
yet
about
how
to
finance
this
or
how
to
allocate
different
Financial
Resources.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
different
options
and
and
in
particularly
if
Salt
Lake
City
is
able
to
access
some
federal
funds
in
the
way
of
Grants.
P
You
know
we
may
want
to
make
decisions
about
how
grants
are
allocated,
whether
the
grants
are
used
on
the
public
side
of
the
LA
of
the
service
line
or
whether
they're
used
on
the
private
side
of
the
service
line.
And
similarly
we
don't
have
a
great
refined
cost
estimate
for
what
it's
going
to
cost
Salt
Lake
City
we've
done
some
really
preliminary
work,
but
you
saw
those
67
000,
lateral
sections
that
are
unknown.
That's
a
problem
in
cost
estimating,
but
it
could
cost
us
more
than
125
million
dollars
over
a
period
of
time.
P
It
just
kind
of
depends
upon
the
way
that
the
program
is
rolled
out
the
amount
of
information
we
get.
So
when
you
mention
the
engagement
through
your
through
your
newsletters
I
got
excited
because
I'd
love
to
have
more
people
take
this
survey,
so
we
can
start
chipping
away
at
what
are
the
unknowns
on
this
on
the
private
side
of
the
system.
P
So
those
are
those
are
some
discussions
that
we
hope
to
have
with
you
and
city
leaders,
as
we
get
closer
to
refining
implementation
of
the
program
and
as
the
rule
gets
finalized
too
by
EPA.
P
B
B
AC
16
20
24.
yeah,
so
the
effective
date
of
the
revision
rule
went
in
12,
16
2021.
They
said
we're
going
to
improve
this
by
10
16
2024.
So
there
are
requirements
we
need
to
meet
still
from
the
2021
revision,
that's
due
in
2024,
but
when
2024
comes
around
and
we've
met
those
requirements,
they're
going
to
also
introduce
an
improvements
rule
which
hopefully
is
just
going
to
build
on
this
already
existing
rule.
B
D
B
AC
By
20.
and
that's
the
one
slide
had
a
timeline,
everything
that
was
due
and
like
it's
20
of
the
schools
per
year.
AC
X
That's
the
case
yeah,
but
we
are
hoping
that
they
wanted
to
give
us
enough
to
work
on
now.
You
can
do
this
right
now
and
so
we're
doing
that
point
up,
till
October,
2024
and
within
they're
projecting
this
fall
they'll
have
that
additional
time
frame
out
that
that's
unknown
right
now
out
for
public
comment
to
be
able
to
be
finalized.
So
we
know
that
there's
a
baseline,
we
just
don't
know
what
the
final
is
going
to
look
like
and
hopefully
we'll
have
that
this
fall.
P
P
And
and
Salt
Lake,
City
or
Utah,
so
the
EPA
allocates
the
national
appropriation
based
on
a
formula
that
I
feel
is
a
little
outdated,
but
Utah
doesn't
get
a
very
big
amount
of
those
for
the
state
revolving
funds
for
water
and
wastewater,
and
so
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
competition
amongst
different
areas,
especially
like
in
the
metropolitan
area.
With
some
of
the
older
cities
I
like
Provo
Ogden,
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
much
more
need
than
there
is
resources
unless
we
can
work
on
making
some
changes
in
future.
AC
To
add
on
to
that,
if
the
state
does
have
27
million,
that's
will
be
available
over
a
five-year
period,
27
million
per
year.
That's
basically
a
use
it
or
lose
it
for
for
this
program
and
lucky
for
us,
our
administration
had
the
foresight
to
say,
let's
plan
for
this
early
and
that's
why
we're
doing
all
this
to
be
prepared
to?
Hopefully,
you
know,
grab
some
of
that
money
as
they're
just
shooting
it
out
quickly
without
the
rules,
even
being
you
know,
finalized.
So
great
thanks.
A
A
We
have
another
close
yeah,
but
we
have
one
more
item
on
our
agenda
and
that
is
talking
about
ranked
Choice
voting
overview
and
we
have
with
us
Ben
ludke,
Council
policy,
analyst
Cindy,
Lou
trishman,
our
city
recorder
and
Olivia
Hoge
elections,
management
coordinator
did
I,
say
your
name
right,
I'm,
sorry,
Hodge,
Olivia,.
M
Mr
chair,
this
is
a
follow-up
briefing
from
the
last
discussion
in
August.
A
few
quick
reminders.
The
legislature
authorized
ranked
Choice
voting
as
part
of
the
municipal
alternative
voting
methods.
Pilot
this
month
is
halfway
through
that
pilot.
It
started
in
January
of
2019
and
it
currently
ends
in
January
of
2026..
M
The
city
did
use
ranked
Choice
voting
for
The
2021
municipal
election
without
a
primary.
The
city
can
use
ranked
Choice
voting
again
for
the
2023
municipal
election,
with
or
without
a
primary
that
flexibility
is
provided.
The
deadline
to
decide
is
in
May.
The
council's
previous
discussions
were
a
desire
to
select
a
voting
method
early
in
this
year,
so
that
there
was
additional
time
for
campaigns
to
react.
When
the
city
selected
ranked
Choice
voting
the
last
time
around,
it
was
in
April
there's
a
couple
quick
updates.
M
AD
All
right,
thank
you
guys.
We
did
talk
to
the
new
County
Clerk
ranked
Choice
voting
still
will
be
an
option
through
Salt
Lake
County.
They
cannot
give
us
a
ballpark
estimate
yet
on
how
much
ranked
Trace
voting
would
cost,
and
this
is
just
a
reminder
that
state
legislation
could
impact
the
opportunity
to
our
participate
in
the
pilot
project
and
the
alternative,
voting
method
and
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
Cindy
Lou
with
anything
else.
No.
Okay,.
H
H
But
we
didn't
have
a
primary,
but
we
didn't
have
a
primary
which
arguably
you
could
yeah.
You
can
arguably
argue.
A
A
121
000
and
we
you
said
so,
we
actually
only
paid
in
the
90s,
because
that
was
what.
AD
They
asked
we
paid
just
about
90.
a.
A
Of
me
or
a
primary
okay
council
members,
do
you
what
are
your
thoughts
on
continuing
rank
choice.
H
I
have
feelings
about
this
I.
You
know
I'm,
very
supportive
of
ranchers
voting,
I.
Think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
good
system.
I
mean
I
was
a
little
nervous
about
the
education
piece.
I
felt
like
the
state
over
promise
on
how
much
they
were
going
to
help
and
unfortunately,
under
deliver
on
how
much
they're
going
to
train
and
some
other
trained
materials
were
no
matching
with
what
it
was
going
to
be
seen
on
the
ballots,
which
was
disappointing.
H
You
know
to
say
the
least,
but
the
voters
figured
it
out
the
materials
that
the
this
clerk's
office,
this
recorder's
office
put
together
were
useful.
The
education
that
was
done
worked
out
and
the
voters
understood
the
process
and
I
feel
like
you
know.
We
should
support
this
and
stick
with
it.
I
will
be
supportive
of
not
putting
primary
and
sticking
with
the
process.
Trenchers
voting,
no
primary
thanks.
S
I
I
agree
and
from
a
campaigning
side
standpoint
it
allowed
for
Freer
dialogue,
because
people
who
historically
would
have
kept
doors
closed,
were
still
opened
and
engaged
and
in
communities
like
the
West
Side,
that's
invaluable.
As
you
know,
our
the
voter
engagement
is
difficult
anyway,
and
so
any
chance
we
have
to
keep
engaging.
Those
who
are
difficult
to
engage
I
think
is
an
overall
win
for
a
lowercase
D
democracy.
B
Thanks
logistically,
what
do
we
need
to
do
now?
Will
this
be
on
a
a
words
are
coming
to
my
brain,
formal
meeting
for
like
emotion,
do
we
need
a
strapple
right
now,
because
it
sounds
like
everyone.
A
A
C
A
A
AD
A
H
H
F
H
F
H
H
A
A
So
that's
five
yeses
and
two
absence:
do
you
want
before
we
move
off
of
this?
A
Are
we
ready
to
say
whether
or
not
if
the
other
options
come
to
us,
we
want
to
discuss
that
again
or
are
we
pretty
confident?
We
want
to
stick
with
the
same
thing
that
we
did
last
year
if
well,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
bills
and
one
of
them
we
talked
last
time
was
like
there's
all
these
other
methods
of
ranked
Choice
voting.
That
is
not
ranking.
It's
different
types
of
voting,
I
I,
would
I
guess
the
reason
I
ask.
A
The
question
is
as
somebody
that
was
campaigning
in
the
last
election
and
didn't
know
what
we
were
going
to
do
until
fairly
late
into
the
year.
I
would
prefer
that
we
just
say
we're
gonna
go
with
this
and
we're
going
to
do
the
same
so
that
this
residents
don't
have
it
changed
up
again.
They
kind
of
know
what
to
expect.
Assuming
this
option
is
what
is
available
to
us.
This
is
the
one
we
want
to
do.
A
M
Chair,
yes,
the
city
made
a
significant
Outreach
effort
to
educate
voters
and
raise
awareness
for
the
first
year
of
using
range
Choice
voting.
Those
materials
still
exist
to
be
used
again
right,
but
I
suspect
additional
funding
might
be
needed
if
the
council
wanted
a
similar
level
of
public
engagement
for
another
cycle
of
ranked
Choice
voting.
You.
A
A
A
So
just
start
thinking
about
priorities
for
the
year?
What
you
want
to
do.
We
are
discussing
format
for
that
location,
Etc,
but
put
your
thinking
caps
on
report,
an
announcement
of
the
executive
director,
Cindy
Gus
Jensen.
F
Two
quick
items
for
those
of
you
who
are
planning
to
attend
the
national
league
of
cities,
Congressional
conference
in
March
There's
an
opportunity
to
sign
up
for
tours
for
the
White
House,
and
that
has
to
be
done.
It's
first
come
first
served.
So
if
you
could
please
let
your
liaison
know
right
away
if
you
are
interested
in
that
and
there's
strict
requirements
and
all
that
stuff.
F
So
there
they
are
inviting
elected
officials
to
go.
It's
sponsored
by
the
national
league
of
cities,
it's
at
the
national
museum
of
American,
Indian
and
I.
Don't
know
if,
at
this
short
notice,
you'd
want
to
try
to
figure
out.
If
you
want
to
send
anyone
at
a
minimum,
we
can
keep
a
note
in
our
file
for
future
calendars
so
that
we
can
recognize
this
day
and.
A
It's
pretty
councilman
Fowler.
A
Okay,
I
would
say
next
week
feels
pretty
aggressive
to
try
and
schedule
that,
unfortunately,
I
mean
I
would
love.
A
Now,
yeah,
okay,
councilman
father.
B
Sorry
I
had
I
didn't
know,
I,
don't
know
exactly
when
to
bring
this
up,
but
I'm
curious
as
to
the
sub.
The
legislative
subcommittee
so
can
I
I
needed
to
bring
that
up
so
that
I
can
talk
to
people
about
who's
actually
on
it
now.
F
We'll
pull
out
our
policy
I
think
it
is
the
RDA
chair,
the
council,
chair
and
the
immediate
past
chair
and
then
the
the
two
that
they
can
delegate
the
chair
of
RDA
and
cherub
Council
can
delegate
okay,
that's
what
I
know
from
memory,
but
we
can
check
okay.
A
Oh
good
point:
yeah,
I,
think
I've
I've
communicated
with
council
members
individually,
but
I
I
have
chosen
to
delegate
my
responsibilities
to
councilmember
Petro
to
build
on
her
relationships
with
the
state
and
Inland
Port
board,
okay,
so
I!
That's
that's
what
we've
discussed
great
so
in
that
case
would
be
councilman,
Petro,
council,
member
Dugan
and
council
member
employee,
unless
he
chooses
to
delegate
as
well.