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From YouTube: Salt Lake City Work Session - 03/07/2023
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we'll
now
be
in
our
work
session,
and
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
item
number
one
updates
from
the
administration
before
we
jump
to
that.
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
some
changes
that
we're
making
on
the
agenda
because
of
I
think
someone's
availability.
A
We
are
switching
number
three
and
four,
the
rezone
and
master
plan
I'm
at
854,
South,
500
East
and
the
Adu
Amendment
follow-up
with
items
eight
and
nine,
so
eight
and
nine
will
be
coming
earlier
in
the
agenda
and
three
and
four
will
be
coming
later
in
the
agenda.
So
if
anyone's
tuning
in
for
those
specific
items
we'll
make
an
I'll
explain
that
again,
when
we
get
to
that
time
in
the
agenda,
but
three
and
four
are
going
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
A
A
B
B
All
right,
hello,
Council!
Thank
you!
So
much,
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
been
in
here
happy
to
be
back,
we'll,
go
ahead
and
start
with
what
we
always
do
for
the
engagement
highlights
and
that's
on
the
next
slide.
Oh,
this
is
nice.
This
is
new.
This
is
great.
That's
helpful.
C
B
Was
brought
in
my
own
computer
and
did
the
turn,
so
this
is
wonderful.
Of
course
my
notes
are
here,
but
anyway
our
our
webpage,
which
we
love
to
advertise
for
Community
engagement,
the
slc.gov
feedback
page
next,
a
couple
of
really
quick
updates
one
is
through.
Can
the
housing
SLC
the
housing
SLC,
the
new
housing
plan
draft
is
live
after
hearing
from
more
than
4
000
residents.
Slc
staff
has
created
a
plan
to
address
the
housing
crisis
over
the
next
five
years.
B
B
The
plan
on
social
media
through
Community
partner
networks
and
with
Flyers
throughout
the
neighborhood
engagement
will
also
take
place
at
upcoming
homeless
resource
fairs
and
the
planning
department,
a
quick
update
on
the
affordable
housing
incentives,
which
was
supposed
to
go
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
8th
due
to
the
snowstorm.
It
was
bumped
to
the
22nd.
So
that's
just
a
FYI
next
slide
and
then
a
quick
update
on
the
Virginia
Street
reconstruction.
B
The
project
team
has
made
the
final
roadway
design
public
alongside
an
engagement,
summary
report
and
both
are
available
through
the
project
website
which
are
accessible
through
this
through
the
Inc.
The
feedback
page
Transportation
will
now
work
with
engineering
to
finalize
the
design
in
the
coming
months
and
the
team
will
meet
with
the
greater
Avenues
Community
Council
periodically
to
provide
updates
and
construction
will
begin
spring
of
2024.
next
slide
and
then,
finally,
here
are
our
community
office
hours,
the
remaining
ones.
B
We've
already
missed
one,
unfortunately
for
this
update,
but
we
have
the
rest
remaining
for
March
we're
getting
some
regulars
spots
that
seem
to
be
successful
and,
of
course,
if
you
have
any
suggestions
on
other
places
for
my
team
to
go
to
I'd
be
happy
to
send
them
there
and
you're
also
welcome
to
send
any
constituents
they
might
have.
Any
questions
for
the
administration
can
go
and
interface
with
my
team
in
any
of
these
locations
and
times,
and
they
would
love
to
hear
from
them.
That's
it
Andrew.
D
Next
slide,
please:
now
the
updates
for
last
week
for
utilization
is
91.6,
as
you
can
see,
that's
down
just
slightly,
but
not
much
from
the
previous
weeks.
D
This
week,
obviously
weather
dependent
and
then
33
camps
are
being
tracked
by
heart
right
now,
and
you
can
see
for
Rapid
intervention,
there's
still
nine
in
comments
that
VOA
is
going
out
to
regularly
and
then
nine
rehabilitations
and
then
15
places
that
are
recurring
ones
throughout
the
city
resource
fair,
this
Friday
at
Fairmont,
Park
and
then
operation
homeless,
connect,
which
is
an
annual
event
now
March,
24th,
I,
believe
and
we'll
have
more
information
for
you
coming
up
on
that
next
slide.
D
Many
of
you
tracked
during
the
session
bills
that
were
related
to
homelessness
or
housing.
The
major
one
was
4.99
in
the
house,
and
this
is
a
really
General
sort
of
summary
of
what
came
out
of
that
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
following
it
very
closely
or
interested
the
state
homelessness
mitigation
fund,
which
was
set
up
to
provide
Financial
Resources
for
cities
that
host
Resource
Centers
was
increased
by
about
5
million
per
year
through
a
mixture
of
cities
in
the
state
paying
into
it
in
the
state
matching
those
funds.
D
D
However,
it
does
also
require
the
city
to
have
an
enforce,
no
camping
ordinances
when
there
are
when
there
are
beds
available
in
emergency
shelter.
That's
a
key
piece,
because
a
lot
of
the
definitions
in
this
bill
have
to
go
through
rules
at
the
state,
legis
State
Office
of
homelessness
services
in
the
following,
probably
two
months
to
Define.
What
that
means.
Okay,
so
I
want
to
put
that
out.
There
make
sure
that
hasn't
changed.
We
had
that
in
the
previous
version
of
this,
and
it
still
moves
forward.
D
A
D
The
winter
response
task
force
is
what
we
call
the
calm
process.
Last
year,
the
conference
of
Mayors.
It's
changed
slightly
this
year
with
some
new
dates.
So
the
end
of
March
is
when
the
state
needs
to
know
what
the
money
they
have
to
fund
it.
There
needs
to
be
a
number
of
beds
with
a
goal
for
next
winter
and
then
the
scope
of
the
plan
requirements.
So
what
the
plan
should
entail?
That's
going
to
be
come
forward
by
a
lot
of
Mayors
in
the
county.
D
That'll
be
pretty
short,
like
I,
said
a
few
weeks
from
now,
and
then
it
moves
up
the
submission
date
to
August
1st
instead
of
September
1st,
when
a
plan
needs
to
be
submitted
to
the
state
to
review
the
other
piece
in.
There
is
and
there's
a
lot
of
details.
D
D
It
would
also
require
them
to
take
in
individuals
as
long
as
they
didn't
exceed
that
threshold,
so
even
if
their
Staffing
wasn't
high
enough
or
other
things,
I
think
it
also
has
some
language
in
there
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
details
to
be
worked
out
about
requirements
for
when
camps
could
be
cleaned
and
those
kind
of
things
around
those
declarations.
D
But
just
so
you're
aware
that
is
in
state
code
now
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
on
both
the
state
and
local
levels
for
us
in
the
Coalition
and
the
counties
to
figure
out
what
that
means
and
how
that
gets
implemented.
So
we'll
have
more
coming
forward
for
you
all
a
third
piece.
That's
new
this
year,
oh
yeah.
C
You
I
should
have
been
paying
more
attention
to
this
during
the
session,
but
I
tried
to
block
the
session
out,
but
is
there
any
money
given
to
municipalities
when
a
code
blue
order
is
put
into
place
and
either
cities
or
counties
need
to
open
other
facilities,
hopefully
counties
and
some
of
our
as
we
did
this
year,
any
any
funding.
D
Yes,
council
member,
the
I
put
it
under
the
winter
response
task
force,
because
that
task
force
is
also
going
to
take
on
not
just
overflow
but
also
the
code
blue
piece,
so
they're
gonna
have
to
take
all
of
that
together
with
the
numbers
and
the
budget
that
the
state
will
come
up
with.
We
should
include
that
as
well.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
that
area.
D
I
will
also
say
that
Wayne
niederhauser
and
the
State
Office
of
homelessness
Services
worked
with
a
lot
of
people
in
the
legislature
and
secured
quite
a
bit
of
funding
this
year,
both
operational
funding
for
homeless
Services
across
the
state,
which
is
new
and
helpful,
as
well
as
housing
monies
so
very
good
job.
The
last
piece
on
the
slide
is
that,
in
addition
to
these
other
pieces,
what's
also
new
is
there's
a
provision
in
here.
D
That's
starting,
not
this
coming
winter,
but
the
following
winter,
Davis
and
Utah
counties
by
their
size
would
be
required
to
have
their
own
winter
response
task
force
and
come
up
with
plans
for
their
areas,
which
is
new.
Now
there
have
been
plants
in
other
parts
of
the
state
before,
but
not
necessarily
formally
in
code
like
this,
so
we
just
lost
the
screen,
so
that
is
new
and
I.
Think
that's
an
important
piece
that
broadens
out
responsibility
to
multiple
counties
and
would
ultimately
help
all
of
us.
We
believe.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
it.
Thank
you
Andrew!
Thank
you,
Weston,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
two
item.
Two
is
our
informational
Equity
update
again
from
the
mayor's
Administration?
A
We
have
Chris
Macias
language
access
coordinator
and
Damien.
Choi
did
I
get
that
right.
Okay,
the
chief
Equity
officer
here.
F
Hello,
thank
you
for
having
us.
My
name
is
Chris.
Macias
has
mentioned
I'm
the
new
language
access
coordinator
in
the
mayor's
office
here
for
the
city,
accompanied
by
the
chief
Equity
officer,
Damien
Choi,
mainly
playing
a
supporting
role
today,
but
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
So
I
want
to
provide
a
quick
introduction,
first
of
all
and
a
brief
update
on
to
what
it
is,
the
work
we're
doing
in
terms
of
language
access.
F
Language
access,
of
course
refers
to
providing
services
for
those
departments
that
are
public
facing
within
the
city
of
Salt
Lake
for
Resident
citizens
to
Mr.
F
Is
this
better?
Okay,
thank
you.
Slow
down,
yes,
I
can
I
tend
to
speak
like
that,
normally
so,
I
apologize.
Yes,
so
I
was
saying
language
access
Services
refers
to
providing
accessible
services
for
those
who
speak
a
different
language
or
are
limited
English
proficient
and
for
all
departments
who
are
public
facing.
So
my
job
is
to
ensure
that
the
city
itself
is
compliant
in
following
the
policy
around
language
access
which
has
officially
been
approved.
As
of
September
of
2022.
F
The
language
access
implementation
plan
is
the
next
phase,
which
is
currently
in
the
works
on
the
Final
Phase,
as
we
speak
and
should
be
implemented,
and
trainings
will
begin
very
shortly,
so
I'm
in
charge
of
seeing
that
all
of
that
is
happening,
making
sure
that
there
is
training
for
interpretation
services
for
translations
for
over
the
phone
interpretation
Whenever.
There
are
events
where
the
mayor
is
speaking
or
when
our
offices
are
being
represented,
that
there
is
some
sort
of
service
available.
F
Of
course,
we've
designated
the
language
of
Spanish
to
be
a
priority
language,
so
most
of
our
Vital
documents,
which
I'll
get
into
in
just
a
moment,
will
be
translated
into
Spanish,
and
then
we
have
further
further
than
that
with
four
more
languages
that
we
feel
are
necessary
for
different
communities.
That
can
also
be
translated
upon
request,
but
also
as
needed,
depending
on
the
event
or
the
circumstances.
F
We
are
the
four
additional
languages
yes,
I
I
have
that,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
refer
to
everything.
Being
that
this
is
my
first
update
just
in
case,
I
was
nervous,
which
I
am
so
oh
of
course,
speaking
to
a
lot
of
you
in
person
beforehand
makes
me
less
nervous,
but
thank
you
so,
of
course,
I
mentioned
Spanish.
F
We
have
a
lot
of
Chinese,
Mandarin
and
Cantonese
languages
that
are
predominant
as
well,
a
lot
of
Vietnamese
Arabic
Korean
and
a
few
other
South
Asian
languages,
including
like
Nepalese,
karenik
Etc.
So
those
are
the
other
languages
that
we're
definitely
focusing
on
certain
communities.
We
also
look
at
Tongan
and
Samoan,
especially
on
the
west
side
of
Salt
Lake
City.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
top
ten,
but
we
do
have
focus
on
the
top
four
more
so
as
I
mentioned.
So
thank
you
for
that.
F
Thank
you.
So
the
next
phase
is
identifying
key
departments.
Damon
and
myself
have
identified
our
public
lands,
Department
our
public
utilities
and
our
justice
courts
as
departments
that
will
be
prioritized
for
training,
given
that
most
individuals
go
to
them
first
for
services,
all
of
them
can
come
to
us
or
can
come
to
me
for
any
kind
of
service,
but
those
are
the
ones
I'll
be
focusing
on
the
most
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
they
are
compliant
and
following
following
all
policy.
F
One
of
the
main
things
that
we're
working
on
is
identifying
what
vital
documents
means
and
vital
documents
refers
to
any
document
that
is,
of
course,
public
facing
as
I
mentioned,
but
also
apologize.
When
we
look
at
my
notes,
Here
anything
that's,
for
example,
an
emergency
declaration,
anything
that's,
a
notification
of
Hazard,
any
property
closures,
letters
that
are
notices
of
reduction
of
services,
denial
or
termination
of
services;
anything
that
is
time
sensitive,
including
including
deadlines,
hearings,
investigations,
litigations
Etc
and
we've
also
identified
the
city
and
county
building
as
a
priority
building
itself.
F
So
all
signage
here
should
also
be
in
Spanish
and
then
as
needed
by
the
other
languages.
That
I
mentioned
as
well
so
vital
documents
has
been
kind
of
the
biggest
part
that
we
focused
on
recently
so
that
we
know
what
needs
to
go
out
recently,
there's
been
quite
a
few
press
releases
going
on
behalf
of
the
mayor's
office
and
we've
been
working
really
hard
to
translate
those
and
what
comes
after
the
press
release
as
well,
for
example,
signage
being
posted
in
certain
communities.
Certain
neighborhoods
most
of
that
has
been
translated
into
it
at
minimum
Spanish.
F
Foreign
yeah
and
we're
also
working
with
some
of
the
outgoing
communication
services,
such
as
the
select
City
mobile,
app
or
emergency
services
that
are
out
there
to
see
what
kind
of
things
can
be
linked
back
to
our
website
and
what
can
also
be
translated.
Currently
we
have
the
Google
translate
embedded
into
all
SLC
gov
Pages,
which
works.
However,
because
it's
an
automated
system,
it
does
not
always
translate
accurately
so
we're
working
on
getting
everything
more
viewing
in
more
detail
so
that
we
can
have
Equitable
language
Services
there
and
of
course.
F
A
H
So
I
I've
been
pushing
on
this
issue
and
you
know
I
know
I,
remember
running
in
2020,
I
felt
like
a
long
time
ago
and
too
soon.
At
the
same
time,
2021
and
I
met
with
someone
from
the
administration.
They
told
me
we're
working
on.
It
was
happening
and
it's
happening
fast,
and
here
we
are
and
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
I'm
not
underestimating
how
much
work
that
is.
I
really
understand
that
this
is
we're
moving
a
ship
right.
H
It's
a
big
ship
and
there's
a
lot
of
documents
and
there's
a
lot
of
processes
and
what
what
are
the
goals
as
far
as
like?
What
are
the
the
date
goals
that
we,
your
department
is
setting
up
for
this
I
just
want
to
know
a
little
more
specific.
What
do
you
see?
You
know
by
the
end
of
the
year
done
and-
or
you
know
like,
do
you
have
other
mid
goals
in
there?
H
I
just
want
to
find
out
if
you
are
stuffed
correctly,
because
this
is
a
priority
and
again
I've
been
hearing
it
for
years
now,
literally
years
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we
we
do
definitions,
but
we
actually
get
to
translating
documents
faster
than
creating
definitions
which
are
important
and
we
need
to
get
them
done.
But
to
me
maybe
it
seems
like
we
are
understaffed
to
get
this
goal
done
faster.
H
So
that's
what
I
my
question,
I
guess
is:
what
do
you
see
accomplishing
by
the
end
of
the
year,
and
maybe
do
you
anticipate
to
need
more
people.
F
I
feel
like
we
can
always
use
more
support,
of
course,
but
some
of
the
main
goals
that
we
have
for
now
is
to
have
not
only
the
key
departments
but
as
many
of
them
to
have
the
training
that
we're
currently
putting
together,
which
again
includes
not
only
how
to
request
services,
including
interpretation
and
translation,
but
also
how
to
report
and
do
that.
The
second
part
is.
F
We
have
also
been
designated
as
a
title
VI
coordinator,
which
is
the
non-discrimination
based
on
the
different
classes
that
we
have
right:
a
age,
sex,
national
origin
and
the
others
were
slipping
my
mind
at
the
moment,
but
in
national
origin
we
also
include
language,
and
so,
if
somebody
is
discriminated
against
because
of
how
they
speak
or
because
of
their
limited
English
proficiency,
we
will
have
a
process
of
how
to
file
a
complaint
or
discrimination
complain
around
that.
F
So
that
is
something
that
is
in
the
works
I'm
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
to
do
that.
We
actually
have
some
complaints
that
have
come
our
way
already
that,
because
there
isn't
a
solidified
process,
they're
kind
of
doing
it
Case
by
case.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
streamlined
as
much
as
possible,
so
definitely
by
the
end
of
the
year
that
will
be
completed,
I'm
hoping
in
the
next
six
months-
that's
completed,
but
also
that
there
is
a
signage
posted
clearly,
including
hopefully,
in
this
room.
F
I
speak
documents,
flag
documents,
so
that
folks
who
come
know
how
to
receive
those
services
and
it
becomes
more
of
a
general
process
in
the
beginning,
where
departments,
if
they're
planning,
for
example,
events
or
they're
planning
a
meeting
that
from
the
get-go
they
say.
Has
this
been
made
accessible
in
the
languages
that
we
are
presenting
in
and
so
that
hopefully,
will
become
what
we're
starting
to
call
Trans
creation,
which
means
not
only
are
we
creating
documents
in
English
but
at
the
same
time
we're
creating
those
in
Spanish
and
or
other
languages.
A
Thank
you,
Chris
council
members,
any
other
questions,
I
appreciate
that
I
think
we
all
share
the
goal
of
having
Equity
throughout
our
city
and
making
sure
that
everyone
has
equal
access
to
government
regardless
of
their
background.
So
thank
you
for
this
work
and
let
us
know
how
we
can
support.
You
perfect
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
so
much
all
right
and
again
for
the
public.
A
A
So
the
next
item
will
be
a
resolution
for
3.5
million
dollars
of
one-time
Home
Arbor
grant
funding
and
at
the
table
we'll
have
Ben
ludke,
who
I
believe
is
joining
virtually
Council
policy:
analyst
Tammy
hunsaker,
Deputy,
deputy
director
of
community
and
neighborhoods
Tony
Milner,
the
director
of
the
hand,
Division
and
Heather
Royale,
deputy
director
of
Housing
and
neighborhood
development
Ben.
If
you'll
give
a
brief
introduction.
I
Thanks
Mr
chair,
the
administration
transmitted
proposed
final
draft
of
the
allocation
plan
for
the
council's
consideration.
The
plan
tells
HUD
the
U.S
housing
Urban
Development
Department,
how
the
city
will
use
these
one-time
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
of
funds.
They
must
benefit
low
to
moderate
income
residents
in
qualifying
populations.
I
G
I
It
does
allow
rent
assistance,
but
it's
one
of
many
eligible
activities
within
that
broad
category.
Some
council
members
expressed
a
preference
or
tenant
based
rental
assistance,
which
is
its
own
category.
Instead
of
Supportive
Services
funding,
tenant-based
rental
assistance
would
remove
the
rental
assistance
from
competing
with
the
many
activities
allowed
in
the
broad
category
of
Supportive
Services.
I
There's
a
table
in
attachment
to
comparing
rental
assistance
between
these
two
categories.
There
are
some
differences,
for
example,
tenant-based
rental
assistance
has
a
minimum
lease
term
of
12
months,
but
rental
assistance
under
Supportive
Services
has
no
minimum
lease
term.
So
if
the
council
wanted
to
look
at
those
differences,
we
can
display
the
table,
but
it's
there
for
your
reference
either
way.
I
J
K
Yeah
thanks
appreciate
the
discussion
here
on
on
the
three
million
dollars.
We
split
in
half
1.5
for
rental
assistance,
one
for
for
development
of
deeply
affordable
housing.
Was
there
a
how
that?
How
did
that
decision
be
made,
because
I
keep
I,
sometimes
think
we
have
a
lot
of
money
going
to
development
of
deeply
affordable
housing
or
housing
in
general
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
places
to
get
that
money.
K
But
maybe
we
don't
have
as
much
money
for
the
rental
assistance
that
could
be
used
across
the
board
and
I
was
just
wondering
the
discussion
or
decision
making
of
just
making
it
1.5
each
or
should
it
be
70,
30,
30,
70
or
some
other
differential,
because
a
mental
assistant
seems
to
be
needed
across
the
board
and
for
probably
a
longer
period
of
time
than
the
deeply
affordable,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
other
funding
mechanisms
for
that.
J
It
addresses
that
needs
assessment
in
that
providing
rental
assistance
prevents
further
individuals
from
potentially
following
falling
into
homelessness.
So
we
felt
like
a
good
split,
was
50
50
between
development
and
rental
assistance,
but
we're
happy
to
make
further
adjustments
on
the
council's
feedback.
No.
K
I
appreciate
that
that's
why
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
thought
I
thought
that
I
appreciate
the
way
the
process
that
was
done
and
I
think
it's
fine
with
the
way
it
is.
But
now
I
was
just
wondering
about
the
is
your
need
more
need
on
one
end
of
the
other
end,
but
I
think
the
50
50
is
probably
quite
right
right
now.
Okay,.
A
Thanks
councilman
Dugan
I
have
a
question
on
the
development
of
affordable
rental
housing.
It
says
that
we
have
and
I
assume
we're
still
continuing
to
prioritize
family-sized
housing
and
mixed
income
developments.
But
can
you
tell
me
how
that
prioritization
or
emphasis
will
take
place?
Is
that
a
threshold
requirement
or
will
it
be
just
one
of
many
considerations?
J
A
Great
I
think
my
only
input
would
be
I
think
that
the
prioritization
that
we
did
with
RDA
was
correct
and
I
I
think
that's
a
good
model
to
follow,
but
I
would
the
one
thing
that
happened
in
the
RDA
was
that
in
the
nofa
process
there
was
an
additional
sort
of
threshold
requirement
that
the
committee
put
on,
which
was
whether
or
not
they
have
litec
funding
and
I
would,
for
my
purposes
to
say
not
to
do
that.
Just
go
with
the
priorities
that
we
had
already
discussed
as
a
board
and.
G
L
On
on
the
development
of
the
affordable
housing,
making
it
a
competitive
process
makes
sense
on
the
tenant
based
rental
assistance
side.
Are
we
going
to
be
running
that
as
a
competitive
Grant,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
a
qualification
Grant
where,
if
people
meet
whatever
qualifications
they're
eligible
for
that
assistance,.
G
A
Answer
your
question
any
other
questions
on
this
council
members:
okay,
excellent,
let's
see
what
is
our
schedule
for
this
today
was
the
hearing.
Public
comment
will
be
happening
in
two
weeks
on
February
21st,
with
tentative
action
February.
What
we
already
heard
public
comment
correct
and
today
is
a
follow-up
briefing,
and
then
we
may
take
action
on
Tuesday,
March
21st.
Is
that
correct.
E
Okay,
sorry
yeah,
so
we
I
feel,
like
we've,
been
supporting
deeply
affordable
housing
for
years
now
and
the
six
million
dollars,
which
is
to
prefer
this
three
projects
and
I'm
wondering-
and
you
say
well,
there
was
a
study
and
it
says
that
we
still
need
more
deeply
affordable
housing,
but
I
also
feel
like
constituency
or
the
world
in
the
street
is
saying:
hey,
you're,
doing
a
lot
of
this
and
there's
this
gap
of
people,
maybe
middle
class
that
still
could
not
afford
anything
in
Salt
Lake
City.
E
So
they
still,
you
know,
they're
being
displaced
as
well
as
the
folks
that
do
need
the
Deep,
affordable
housing.
So
are
we
doing
this
because
we
have
this
timeline
for
had
like
we
need
to
get
this
money
out.
I
can't
remember
if
this
is
the
money
that
we
need
to
to
use,
or
when
are
we
going
to
have
the
discussion
or
when
are
we
going
to
also
help
another
segment
of
the
population
of
our
constituency
that
needs
housing
in
Salt
Lake
City,
but
cannot
afford
that?
E
It's
just
they're
out
they're
out
of
that
Spectrum
like
they're
in
the
middle
like
either
you're
very
rich,
and
you
could
afford
anything
or
you're
in
this
part
that
the
government
helps
like
we're
all
trying,
and
we
have
three
projects
going
on
plus
two
more
or
whatever.
But
those
are
not
like
the
ones
that
are
don't
qualify
for
anything
like
they're,
not
rich,
and
they
are
not
in
that
Ami
threshold
like.
J
That
that
is
a
great
question.
I'll
I'll
turn
it
over
to
these
guys
to
talk
about
the
home
ARP
requirements
in
more
detail.
But
it's
kind
of
the
target
of
this
specific.
J
Along
with
the
needs
assessment
that
created
our
Focus
area
with
this
specific
population,
but
that
is
a
great
question
council
member
with
the
coordination
with
other
Amis
and
I,
think
we'll
be
getting
into
more
housing
discussions
in
future
meetings
and
in
terms
of
the
timeliness
requirement,
there
will
be
timeliness
with
these
funds,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
what
we
were
talking
about
two
weeks
ago.
Okay,
so
the
specific
thank.
M
You
yeah,
just
in
a
quick
nutshell,
is
basically
that
HUD
made
sure
that
these
went
to
qualifying
populations
who
were
experiencing
homelessness
or
close
to
being
homeless.
Basically,
anyone
victims
of
domestic
violence,
veterans,
currently
homeless,
or
soon
to
be
homeless,
and
so
the
the
plan,
everything
that
we
do
has
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
and
directing
funds
towards
those
qualifying
populations
right.
C
So
going
back
to
the
1.54,
deeply
affordable
rental,
housing
I
feel
that
and
I
feel
like
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
oh
well,
I
feel
that
we
could
actually
leverage
that
1.5
million
by
utilizing
the
tools
that
we
already
have
for
development
within
the
RDA,
so
I'm,
not
and
and
to
mention
like
oh
we'll,
just
we'll
just
look
at
the
policies
over
on
that
side,
which
is
great
because
we've
worked
really
hard
on
those
policies
and
and
that
no
fun
looking
at
the
application
process
there.
C
It
again
feels
like
we're
just
continuing
to
have
two
separate
hands,
doing
the
same
thing
that
I've
sort
of
been
pushing
against,
because
I
think
that
there
are
skills
in
in
each
department
that
sort
of
get
it's
like
being
duplicated
for
no
reason
right.
So,
if
we're
doing
the
development-
and
we
know
that
we
have
this
one-
we
have
tools
that
I
think
we
could
leverage
this
1.5
million
with
those
tools.
Why
are
we
not
just
giving
that
1.5
million
over
into
the
next
nofa
round
in
the
RDA
and
I
I?
C
J
J
It
would
probably
have
to
look
like
a
special
set
of
side
because
I
don't
know
if
these
goals
and
requirements
will
align
with
the
goals
you
will
be
adopting
on
the
RDA
side.
So
these
per
the
home
ARP
rules
have
to
go
to
persons
experiencing
homelessness
or
at
risk
of
homelessness,
so
that
Ami
requirement
is
rather
low.
So
there
could
be
like
a
one,
big
nofa,
with
a
set
aside
for
this
population
with
these
requirements
and
then
another
pot
of
money
with
the
requirements
that
you'll
be
adopting
on
the
RDA
side.
C
I
I
appreciate
that
I
would
want
to
say
that
since
I've
been
on
the
council
and
part
of
the
RDA
board,
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
deeply
affordable
has
always
been
one
of
our
main
goals
and
we
continue
I
mean
I.
Can
we
just
did
the
spark
groundbreaking?
The
two
I
mean
we
continue
to
fund
those
deeply
affordable
and
those
projects
that
provide
and
create
deeply
affordable.
C
I
personally,
don't
see
that
changing
as
one
of
my
priorities,
whether
it
be
a
council
person
or
a
board
member
and
so
again,
I
just
feel
that
there
is
a
way
to
streamline
things.
We
already
have
a
process
in
place.
C
This
is
what
I've
been
talking
about
for
six
years
now,
and
why
are
we
expending
talent
and
time
and
energy
to
to
redo
the
process
in
two
different
departments
and
in
two
different
areas
and
and
I
again,
I
appreciate
an
explanation
on
that
and
trying
to
figure
that
out
and
hopefully
that
coordination
will
happen
because
again,
I
think
that
the
rental
assistance
part
that
is
where
I
want
you
to
focus
the
development
part
like.
Let's
give
that
to
to
people
who
are
doing
that.
So,
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
leave.
A
N
Respond
to
that,
the
a
couple
of
things
number
one
I
know
that
the
administration
is
having
an
ongoing
conversation
about
this,
and
there
are
some
things
they're
looking
at
splitting,
so
it
hasn't
been
lost
on
them,
I,
don't
think,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
you
can
influence
it
significantly.
Why
were
you
appropriate
the
money?
So
that
would
be
a
budget
thing
when
you
get
to
that
point.
H
I'm
learning
a
lot
about
you
know,
funding
and
future
and
how
you
know
these
programs
and
I
was
reading
the
staff
questions
and
some
of
the
funding
some
of
the
funding
that
is
out
there
from
these
different
Pockets
or
or
buckets
of
money,
and
the
staff
question
points
out
to
to
coordination
between
these
two
different
funding
mechanisms
that
people
can
apply
to
that.
H
Sometimes
they
can
apply
for
the
same
projects
and
some
coordination
between
these
two
funds
or
trying
to
you
know,
understand
how
this
works
better,
at
least
for
me,
but
the
the
coordination
between
the
funding
of
future
housing
programs
and
the
and
had
this
had
money
here
and
I
would
like
to
refer
to
that
question
on
on
the
staff
report
and
because
I
would
like
to
to
see
how
we
can
make
it
easier
for
everybody,
and
you
know
and
easier
for
staff
too,
because
we
might
be
duplicating
processes.
H
I
understand
that
has
I
mean
all
of
those
funds
usually
have
requirements
and
processes,
but
trying
to
minimize
the
duplicity
of
of
work.
I'm
sure
that
take
all
over
everybody,
so
yeah
I
would
like
to
clarificate
clarification
on
that.
For
the
future
can.
A
J
A
So
and
that's
okay,
any
other
questions.
Council
members,
all
right,
I,
think
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
sounds
similar
but
is
a
different
program.
This
is
item
number
listed
as
item
number:
nine
ordinance
regarding
local
business
assistance,
Arbor
Grant,
Awards,
follow-up
discussion.
We
still
have
been
lewd
key
Council
policy
analyst
here
with
us,
but
now
we
have
Lorena
rifo
Jensen,
director
of
our
Economic
Development
Department
Kathy
Rigby
economic
development,
project
manager
and
Jake
Maxwell
Workforce
Development
manager.
Here
at
the
table.
I
Do
and
I'll
ask
Scott
to
display
the
four
options,
since
those
will
come
up
repeatedly
during
the
briefing
at
the
last
briefing,
the
council
took
a
strop
hole
to
support
the
advisory
committee's
funding
recommendations
dependent
upon
receiving
clarification
for
how
phase
one
applicants
that
scored,
70
or
higher
would
be
prioritized
in
phase
two.
I
If
anyone
needs
a
copy
of
the
funding
log
or
the
list
of
all
the
applicants,
I'm
told
there
are
extra
hard
copies,
left,
I
can't
see,
but
I
hope
they're
on
the
big
table
in
the
corner.
I
Since
the
briefing
some
council
members
have
also
reiterated
their
preference
to
release
more
funding.
Now
than
the
recommendation
of
the
committee,
Economic
Development
provided
four
options
for
the
council's
consideration.
These
are
options
a
through
d.
As
you
can
see
on
the
big
screen,
the
council
may
elect
to
choose
from
these
four
options,
but
the
council
is
not
limited
to
them.
The
council
has
control
over
the
dollar
amounts
and
the
uses
for
the
grant
Awards.
I
As
a
reminder,
the
committee's
original
recommendation-
this
is
option.
D
is
755
718
dollars
for
31
applications
and
it's
using
a
sliding
scale
approach.
Rather
than
awarding
the
full
eligible
amount-
and
that
was
done
to
try
and
spread
the
grant,
Awards
further
and
award
them
to
more
applicants,
I'll
turn
the
time
over
to
Lorena
to
talk
through
the
other
three
options.
A
b
and
c.
O
O
Therefore,
this
program
was
created
from
the
feedback
we
received
from
organizations
that
work
with
diverse
communities,
arts
and
artisan
Equity
diversity
and
inclusion
have
always
been
part
of
the
court
of
this
program
and,
as
you
created
the
communal
recovery
committee,
please
know
that
they
also
I
have
seen
their
work
and
they
also
hear
to
these
values.
So
now,
I
will
ask
Kathy
to
talk
about
the
options
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
P
It's
a
brief
slide
deck.
So
I'll
just
start
our
introduction,
while
that's
being
pulled
up
on
February
21st
Department
of
Economic
Development
presented
our
phase
one
group
one
funding
request
at
that
time:
Council
requested
additional
funding
options,
including
expanding
the
list
of
applicants
to
receive
funding
during
this
phase.
What
you
see
before
you
there,
it
is.
Thank
you
what
you
see
before
you
are
the
three
options
and,
as
Ben
mentioned,
we
added
option
D
as
the
original
request.
So
I'll
just
walk
you
through
these
option.
A
is
what
we're
calling
a
hybrid
option.
P
P
Option
A
also
includes
continuing
with
phase
two
and
an
option
to
include
bonus
points
or
not
include
bonus.
Points
is
also
listed
with
that
this
option
would
increase
funding
to
just
over
a
million
dollars
a
million.
Sixteen
seven
hundred
and
thirteen
dollars
option
b
would
be
the
original
request
and
adding
bonus
points
to
any
applicant
who
scored
70.0
or
above
Council
DED
staff
or
the
community
recovery
committee
could
determine
the
number
of
points
to
be
awarded
and
option.
P
C
is
to
award
all
of
the
funds
now
to
small
business
applicants
until
the
1.5
million
dollars
is
exhausted.
This
would
leave
only
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
speak
set
aside
for
the
non-profit,
sub-recipient
pass-throughs,
which
will
be
reviewed
once,
can
completes
their
non-profit
application
review
with
the
committee
and
then.
P
So
in
basically
option
C
would
just
exhaust
all
of
those
funds
up
to
that.
One
to
that
point,
and
then
we've
listed
option
D.
P
One
thing
that
we
had
discussed
with
Council
staff
is
that
there
was
a
unique
situation
created
with
the
sliding
scale
and
the
council
member
of
aldamaros
mentioned
that
this
left
some
odd
amounts
in
the
funding
request,
so
staff
would
propose
a
rounding
up
of
the
awards
so
that
that
could
be
easily
administered
by
not
only
the
Department
of
Economic
Development,
but
the
Department
of
Finance
who
we've
been
collaborating
with,
and
they
believe
that
to
be
a
sound
recommendation
for
how
to
move
forward.
P
P
A
A
E
It's
about
one
of
the
applicants.
I
thought
one
of
the
applicants
is
an
actual
non-profit
and
I.
Think
I
can
mention
it
because
it's
public
right
this.
This.
E
P
So,
as
we
mentioned
in
our
last
presentation,
if
a
non-profit
is
applying
as
a
small
business,
meaning
they're
only
looking
for
revenue
recovery
for
their
own
business,
because
they
were
also
impacted
with
loss
of
funding
through
covid,
then
they
could
apply
as
a
small
business
themselves.
This
would
not
be
passed
through
funding.
That
is
what's
the
topic
of.
A
H
H
Some
businesses
that
have
applied
and
I
also
don't
want
to
hurt
them
by
just
learning
about
this,
which
it
was
the
whole
purpose
of
making
sure
that
this
was
done
in
two
phases
is
making
sure
that
people
businesses
out
there
new
and
found
out
about
this,
and
only
the
most
connected
businesses
to
us,
maybe
or
to
the
city,
will
know
that
these
funds
exist.
So
there
is
an
already
business
out
there
that
are
applied.
H
I,
don't
want
to
hurt
them
by
creating
a
bonus
scoring
for
those
that
apply
first
but
I'm
I'm,
okay,
with
discussing
if
we
need
to
fund
more
on
the
first
phase
or
not.
That
is
something
that
we'll
see
here
but
hurting
those
businesses
that
are.
We
told
him
that
there
is
a
second
phase.
I
think
that's
that's
not
right
and
giving
them
a
leg
up
to
businesses
that
some
media
applications
and
they
didn't
follow,
or
they
didn't
do
it
right.
H
We
can
help
them
and
the
the
group
here
in
front
of
us
told
us
last
meeting.
They
wouldn't
be
hard
to
get
them
to
reapply.
It
will
be
basically
click
of
a
button
so
that
those
are
the
things
that
I
feel
strongly
about
is
keeping
a
second
phase
and-
and
we
can
deal
and
deliberate
about
what
to
do
as
far
as
money
for
the
first
phase.
But
I
don't
want
us
to
hurt
those
that
are
waiting
and
they
just
applied.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
appreciate
that
customer,
probably
I
kind
of
agree.
I
want
the
two
phases,
because
that
was
this
rule
in
the
beginning.
Right,
we
don't
want
to
change.
Rules
of
the
game.
K
Midstream
and
I
also
agree
that
the
bonus
for
those
who
did
not
meet
the
threshold
for
their
very
first
offering
that
that
bonus
is
that
they
are,
are
very
I've
already
applied
once
they've
already
been
interviewed
once
and
so
that
to
me
is
already
their
bonus
because
they
already
have
that
application
and
so
by
changing
the
rules
and
giving
them
bonus
points.
Okay,
your
extra
point,
your
field
goal
to
actually
Point
counts
for
two.
Now,
because
you,
you
missed
the
first
one.
Well
that
doesn't
count
right
here.
K
So
let's
stick
with
what
we
have
as
a
game
plan
and
I'm
just
going
back
to
the
option
D,
which
would
be.
We
have
a
second
one.
We
have
39
applicants
already
in
the
waiting
room
at
this
time,
so
keep
the
keep
the
same
rules
and
move
on
forward
with
the
other
additional
million
dollars.
Councilmer
Fowler.
C
Thank
you,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
on
this
first
off.
I
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
that
a
lot
of
this
new
process
came
about
because
of
our
our
discussion
during
the
the
first
sort
of
covid
monies
right.
We
we
definitely
sat
here
and
said,
wait
a
minute.
C
Was
this
process
robust
enough
during
those
first
rounds
of
covid
monies
when
we
were
in
the
thick
of
it
and
and
so
I
think
that
this
process
certainly
is
better
than
that
first
process
and
I
truly
appreciate
everyone
on
your
team
and
everyone
sitting
at
the
table.
That
said,
that
heard
what
we
were
saying
and
said:
okay,
let's
make
this
process
better.
C
C
C
That
being
said,
I've
respectfully
disagreed
with
a
council
member
Dugan.
In
that
we
are
changing
the
rules
by
adding
a
second
phase.
The
first
phase
was
already
there.
The
rules
were
out
there.
I
do
think
that
your
team
has
done
an
amazing
job
at
making
sure
that
we
were
hitting
more
businesses
than
than
the
the
ones
closest
to
us,
or
that
new
people
in
the
city,
council
and
and
with
the
translation
services
with
the
the
I.T
help
I
mean
you.
C
Your
team
went
above
and
beyond
to
with
the
the
committee
who
has
put
in
hours
and
hours
of
work
into
looking
at
these
applications,
and
and
so
for
me,
when
we
came
out
here
and
said,
here's
two
million
dollars
go,
do
it.
That
was
what
I
was
expecting.
Okay
and
I
think
that
I,
because
I
knew
because
we
had
talked
about
what
the
process
was
going
to
be,
and
it
was
like.
Yes,
this
is
the
right
process.
This
looks
good.
Can
we
improve
upon
it
sure,
eventually,
the
next
time?
C
The
federal
government
gives
us
two
million
dollars
to
give
to
small
businesses.
We
will
have
learned
these
lessons
absolutely
right,
but
for
me,
I
I
think
that
sometimes
well
what
again?
What
I
was
expecting
is
here's
two
million
dollars.
Thank
you
for
coming
to
us
and
telling
us
what
the
process
was
going
to
be.
Thank
you
for
making
sure
that
our
concerns
were
heard
from
the
last
time.
Thank
you
for
all
of
that
robust
Communications
that
you
did
with
the
community
members
with
small
businesses.
Big
everybody
I
mean
I.
C
I,
truly
believe
you
guys
worked
your
butts
off
on
this
and
and
so
for
I
I.
Don't
think
that
I
was
expecting
to
have
to
actually
debate
about
whether
we
were
going
to
have
a
first
phase
or
a
second
phase
or
any
of
those
things.
I
was
saying:
here's
two
million
dollars
go,
spend
it.
Thank
you
and
I.
Think
it's
unfortunate
and
I
recognize
that
there
are
concerns
that
you
know
35
40.
There
could
be
a
hundred
businesses
that
are
like
wait.
A
minute.
I
didn't
hear
about
that.
C
Okay,
like
I,
don't
think
that
that
is
on
us
I
think
if
there
was
an
expectation
of
don't
worry,
there's
a
second
phase
coming,
maybe
that
maybe
that
shouldn't
have
been
said,
maybe
that
shouldn't
have
been
done,
but
I
don't
think
that
if
somebody
has
an
expectation
that
there
was
other
money
coming
that
wasn't
that's
not
on
me,
that's
not
on
the
council
and
for
me,
I
I
say
get
the
money
out
there.
Why
are
we
going
through
another
process
that
we
already
went
through
with
a
huge,
robust
process?
C
We
talked
with
people
on
the
committee
that
are
like,
oh
man,
not
that
they
wouldn't
right,
but
if
I
was
a
Committee
Member
I
won't
speak
for
any
Committee
Member,
but
if
I
was
a
Committee,
Member
I'd
be
like
seriously.
You
want
me
to
do
this
again
when
I
already
did
all
of
this,
and
so
I
I
truly
truly
feel
good
about
the
process.
I
feel
good
about
the
decisions
that
were
made
by
the
committee
and
I
want
to
spend
the
money.
C
Okay,
get
it
out
there
and
I
feel
good
about
option
C,
because
I
know
that
we
have
some
of
that
non-profit
stuff
again.
I
feel
good
about
that
decision.
I
feel
good
about
that
process
that
you
all
went
through
and
at
this
point
get
the
money
out
there.
That's
what
we
were
intending
to
do
and
and
I'm
speaking
to
you,
but
mostly
I'm
speaking
to
the
people
sitting.
E
Two
I
am
not
sure
where
this
phase
two
idea
came
out
like
was
it
did
we
in
a
discussion,
say
we're
going
to
have
phase
one
and
phase
two,
or
was
it
something
that
you
made
a
decision?
And
you
told
applicants?
Hey,
don't
worry
if
you
don't
get
it
this
time,
you'll
get
it
I.
O
Think
I
think
that's
a
very
fair
question
and
a
good
question
I
want
to
also
respond
to
council
member
Fowler
and
you
as
well
councilman
with
all
the
models
as
part
of
the
process.
When
we
started
this,
we
did
a
listening
tour.
O
We
never
want
to
pretend
that
we
know
everything
because
we
don't
we
want
to
learn
and
we
want
to
grow
so
our
team
actually
went
into
the
community
asked
questions
and
something
that
came
out
so
I
want
you
to
know
that
this
was
not
designed
to
to
benefit
us
as
public
servants,
but
rather
it
was
designed
because
we
received
really
good
feedback
from
the
community,
but
also
to
benefit
and
I.
Let
me
explain
to
you
how
it
was
decided.
O
We
heard
that
often
diverse
communities,
diverse
businesses,
don't
hear
about
this,
which
I
think
we've
I
I.
Thank
you
for
the
the
kind
words
that
you
gave
us
so,
but
a
lot
of
times
they
do
hear
about
it,
but
because
they're
working
so
hard,
they're
head
down,
try
to
make
ends
meet
they
miss
deadlines
and,
furthermore,
a
lot
of
times
diverse
communities
when
they
see
a
program
by
the
government
because
of
their
life
experiences,
often
those
communities.
You
see
refugees,
immigrants.
O
O
E
O
E
Appreciate
that
and
I
hardly
I
love
this
project,
like
you
know
the
process
I've
seen,
staff
go
to
businesses
and
drop
off
applications
business
by
business
like
I've,
seen
them
I've
also
seen
groups
that
deal
with
refugees.
Yes,
have
been
very
successful
at
the
amount
of
applications
that
there
are
in
this
round.
You
have
more
than
10
out
of
refugee
communities,
so
I
don't
feel
like
we.
E
So
that's
where
that's
one
point
second
point
is
this
up:
this
money
is
money
that
it's
needed
because
a
loss
was
suffered
at
some
point.
So
if
you
as
a
business,
are
able
to
prove
that
you
suffered
because
of
covet,
then
you're
entitled
to
get
some
relief
from
the
federal
government.
That's
right,
and
so
the
two
million
dollars
need
to
get
out
like
you.
Don't
you
don't,
as
a
business
I
feel
it's
so
unfairified
as
a
business
owner
I
would
feel
so
unfair
that
I
showed
you
guys.
My
taxes
I
showed
you.
E
My
my
business
I
show
I
proved
to
you
that
I
suffered
a
loss
I'm
entitled
to
this
to
this
funding
to
this
relief,
but
because
of
a
committee
or
because
of
maybe
my
my
writing
was
very
good
or
I.
Didn't
explain
myself
very
well
now
how
to
do
a
phase
two!
That's
what
I
feel
like
that's,
where
I
feel
strongly
that
we
go
with
option
C
and
and
move
on
from
this
and
get
the
money
out.
I
have
businesses
texting
me
after
last
week,
hey
what's
happening
with
this
money.
E
A
L
Your
Outreach
is
quite
exceptional
and
it's
an
embarrassment
of
riches
that
we
have
this
problem
in
front
of
us,
because
it
is
your
conscientiousness
and
the
amazing
way
you
look
at
Economic
Development,
that's
causing
us
to
be
in
this
situation,
I'm
not
going
to
contribute
anything
new
to
this
exact,
this
specific
situation
that
hasn't
already
been
said
and
I'm,
hoping
that
in
our
lifetime
we
don't
experience
something
where
we're
in
this
kind
of
disaster
relief
position
again.
L
So
I
would
like
to
revisit
maybe
city-wide
Grant
making
processes,
whereas
certain
grants,
like
our
Arts
Council
grants,
rightfully
are
competitive
grants
like
council
member
aldamoros
was
saying
these
really
should
be
qualification
grants
where,
if
you
meet
a
threshold
you
qualify
for
funding
and
then
whatever
rating
system
we
use
should
only
be
used
to
help
us
decide
when
we
have
more
requests
than
funding
available.
How
do
we
divvy
up
that
pot
in
ways
that
are
reflective,
so
I
I'm
not
going
to
add
anything
more
to
this
specific
situation,
but
going
forward?
L
O
H
For
sure,
okay,
councilman,
so
I
I,
just
wanted
to
I
think
I
feel
like
because
I've
been
asking
you
questions
about
this
about.
When
this
phase
two
was
announced-
and
you
know
the
outreached
that
the
community
was
that
was
done
with
the
community
about
from
day
one
that's
going
to
be
a
phase
two
on
the
amount,
the
extensive
many
months
of
Outreach
to
the
community
and
I
think
the
confusion.
H
I
think
that
maybe
the
sticking
point
is
this:
this
Council
decided
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
phase
two
or
not
to
me
while
it
seems
to
be
a
you
know,
a
question
that
we're
struggling
with
this,
this
city-
that
we
are
part
of
has
said
regardless.
If
we
like
it
or
not
to
the
to
the
small
business
Community,
there
is
going
to
be
a
second
round,
and
now
we
have
applicants
there
waiting.
H
So
that
to
me
is
very
important.
Now
I,
don't
think
we
are
actually
changing
the
rules
by
removing
that
as
a
city,
not
as
a
council,
because
I
guess
these
Council
didn't
decide
that,
but
as
a
city
we
are
now.
We
also
said
in
this
meeting
we
respect
the
advisory
boards
decision,
but
then
we
are
taking
ignoring
their
decision,
so
so
how?
Why
do
we
create?
If,
if
I
was
some
someone
looking
from
the
outside
in?
Why
would
I
be
part
of
any
Advisory
Board
in
this
city?
H
If
I'm
going
to
be
just
ignored
every
time,
I
I,
you
know
what
would
be
the
point
I
think
it
is.
We
definitely
learned
a
lot
of
things
about
this
and
I
second
Victoria's
point
on
about
this
and
looking
forward
in
the
future.
But
right
now
we
are
in
a
hot
potato
I.
H
Don't
think
that
this
is
trolley
funds
that
we're
never
going
to
see
again
crossing
my
fingers,
but
most
likely
we're
debating
about
something
that
is
very
unique
to
to
covet
and
never
we
never
seen
anything
like
this,
and
the
Administration
has
never
seen
like
this,
but
this
decision
is
already
out
there.
We
should
stick
with
it.
It's
fair!
It's
the
Equitable
thing.
My
district
has
only
a
few
businesses
that
are
applied
district.
One
only
has
one
business
that
applied
in
the
phase,
one
that
we
have
is
unequitable
and
I.
O
You
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing
if
I
may
I
think
for
clarity
purpose
when
we
develop
programs,
when
we
get
feedback
from
the
community,
it
would
be
wonderful
to
fully
understand
the
separation
of
power.
What's
my
administrative
versus
what
is
policy
and
when
we
created
a
program,
we
100
believe
that
this
was
an
administrative
decision.
Therefore
we
created
a
program
with
phase
two.
We
didn't
do
it
in
any
way
to
be
disrespectful
or
disregard
council's
opinion
on
this,
but
rather
we
thought
we
had
the
authority
to
proceed
accordingly.
P
I
had
a
couple
more
comments,
just
on
the
the
Equitable
issue
and
thank
you
Lorena
for
clarifying
that
we
understood
council's
directive
besides
give
out
this
money
now
was
also
by
the
ordinance
language
make
this
process
more
Equitable.
So
we
heard
that
loud
and
clear
when
we
went
out
to
the
Community
Partners
and
we
asked
what
would
make
this
more
Equitable
a
phase.
Two
was
strongly
suggested
because
the
community,
whose
historically
marginalized,
doesn't
often
take
part
in
Phase
One
of
anything
so
PPP
had
multiple
phases,
which
is
the
payroll
Protection
Program.
P
Our
previous
iteration
of
grant
funding,
which
is
the
Emergency
Loan
program,
had
a
second
phase,
so
we've
just
listened
to
the
community
and
and
took
this
to
be
an
equitable
measure,
not
as
seizing
Authority.
In
any
way,
I
would
also
say
that
our
Community
Partners,
when
we
responded
by
creating
the
phase
two
we
reviewed-
and
this
is
a
part
of
our
slide
presentation
to
them-
had
the
reasons
why
we
included
a
phase
two
and
they
responded
very
favorably
to
that,
because
we
listed
that
it
was
an
equitable
measure
would
allow
people
to
get
over.
P
The
part
of
distrusting
government,
which
is
you
know
during
covid,
was
high,
and
the
third
thing
I
will
say
is
that
all
of
these
applicants,
regardless
of
how
they
scored
or
whether
they
showed
that
they
had
impact
from
covid,
which,
as
you
mentioned,
councilmember
maldon
Rose,
was
import
important.
The
second
thing
that
was
important,
though,
was
the
eligible
use
of
funding
and
because
that's
of
high
importance
to
the
federal
government,
not
all
of
the
applicants
who
scored
lower,
had
a
good
use
of
funding
or
an
eligible
use
of
funding.
P
So
we
have
to
go
back
with
Finance
once
we
know
who
the
funding
group
is
and
review
all
of
these
budgets,
not
only
because
of
the
sliding
scale
and
the
unique
situation
that
that
created
by
adjusting
budgets.
But
we
also
have
to
review
for
eligibility
and
I
would
say
that
lower
scoring
applicants
didn't
necessarily
score
well,
because
their
eligible
use
of
the
money
was
not
what
was
in
arpa
guidelines.
So
we
do
have
to
review
for
that
as
well.
P
So,
yes,
they're
allowed
and
eligible
because
they've
proven
a
loss,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
their
plans
for
using
the
money
will
meet
the
bar.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
understood,
that
we
have
that
additional
requirement
that
we
have
to
meet,
and
so
some
of
those
lower
scoring
applicants
may
not
meet
that
bar.
R
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
Lorena,
I
think
covered
this
point,
but
very
much
appreciate
the
council's
allocation
of
these
funds.
As
you
know,
we
worked
really
hard
in
Partnership,
hopefully
with
you
to
build
a
grant
program
that
would
be
as
Equitable
as
possible
to
get
money
out
into
the
community.
You
didn't
have
to
allocate
the
money
in
this
way,
but
we're
thankful
that
you
did
so
that
we
could.
R
We
could
get
money
to
businesses
and
to
nonprofits
the
staff
both
from
Economic
Development
and
finance,
has
taken
a
ton
of
time,
along
with
the
board
members
who
are
adding
a
lot
of
time
to
their
regular
board
duties
to
try
to
make
really
conscientious
Equitable
Fair
decisions
here
and
this
all
the
feedback
that
you've
provided
through
this
process
is
incredibly
insightful.
I.
Think
we'll
absolutely
keep
this
in
mind
as
we
build
new
programs
in
the
future.
R
We
do
squarely
think
that
this
is
an
administrative
of
issue
in
terms
of
how
the
program
is
built,
but,
as
I
said,
the
feedback
has
been
insightful
and
we
hope
to
continue
doing
these
sorts
of
you
know.
Community
engaged
focused
programs
in
partnership
with
the
council.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
consideration
here
and
we
hope
that
we
can
just
continue
with
this
program
as
it
was
built
as
it
was
intended,
as
we've
held
it
out
to
the
community
and
go
from
there
thanks.
Okay,.
A
I
have
a
quick
comment
and
then
councilmember
valdemaros,
I
I
appreciate
this
discussion.
It's
a
really
hard
one
I
think
for
me,
the
biggest
piece
that
has
sort
of
been
brought
up,
but
not
is
that
we've
asked
a
lot
of
these
volunteers
and
I
feel
really
bad,
that
we
are
asking
them
to
do
more
work
and
Phil
it's
hard
for
me
to
slow
things,
processes
down
where
I
know.
A
All
of
you
have
so
many
things
on
your
plate
that
it
would
be
nice
to
just
check
this
box
and
move
on
to
the
next
important
thing.
But
I
I
do
understand
that
we've
made
these
expectations.
I
I
just
want
to
point
I,
and
this
is
a
one
of
the
people
that
was
on
the
committee,
but
I
spoke
with
the
one
person
I
know,
and
they
let
me
know
that
they
they
did
not
want
to
do
a
second
round.
They
thought
it
was
so
much
work.
A
So
yes,
Equity,
yes,
robust
processes,
yes
do
a
lot
of
Outreach,
but
when
we're
asking
volunteers
to
volunteer
their
time
on
committees
and
boards
and
then
to
serve
on
in
additional
capacities.
In
addition
to
those
committees
and
Boards,
we
need
to
really
cherish
that
time
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
asking
them
to
do
more
than
is
necessary.
Along
with
that,
the
council
has.
In
the
past,
we
have
allocated
money
for
stipends
for
board
members
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at
whether
or
not
that
is
a
happening.
A
Is
it
and
is
it
enough
to
overcome
that
burden
of,
especially
like
single
mothers
or
people
of
color,
who
are
traditionally
disenfranchised
asking
them
to
do
additional
volunteer
work
is
really
unconscionable
so
make
sure
that
we
have
those
that
those
stipend
dollars
are
a
adequate
and
B
actually
getting
disbursed.
Counselor
valdemarles
thank.
E
You
and
I
think
I
think
we
talked
with
Lorena
about
that
some
people
that
may
have
scored
lower
it's
because
maybe
the
uses
or
the
the
things
that
we're
going
to
use
with,
maybe
wasn't
clear,
is
not
eligible.
So
then,
my
question
is
like:
if
we
know
it's
not
over
uncertain,
if
this
is
legible
or
if
we
know
that
these
are
not
legible,
then
why
would
we
and
would
you
consider
them
at
all
like?
E
Does
that
make
sense
like
hey?
This
is
for
Relief
and
the
relief
says
for
operating
costs,
meaning
paychecks
rent
all
of
the
things,
but
if
it's
outside
of
that,
then
it's
not
eligible.
So
we
cannot
really
review
you
because
we
can
give
you
that
money
regardless,
so
that
that's
one
point
that
I'm
still
confused
about,
but
the
second
one
that
I
just
thought.
If
we
went
with
option
C
or
if
we
went
with
even
option
D,
if
we
stayed
as
original
then
there's
another
process
coming
up,
which
is
another
process
to
go.
E
To
use,
I
mean
to
choose
the
non-profit.
That
will
actually
distribute
the
500
000
and
then
another
Prof
process
for
the
nonprofit
to
distribute
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
they
get
to
help
other
businesses
I
mean
this.
Is
this
money
is
being
delayed
and
delayed,
and
the
lady
is
not
getting
out
to
the
community
fast
enough
and
that's
also
because
I
just
realized,
that's
a
huge
concern
for
me
as
well.
Even
so,
maybe
if
we
did
go
with
option
C
or
option
D,
then
those
five
non-profits
I
may
get
this
money.
P
Yeah,
so
on
the
eligible
uses,
it
wasn't
as
cut
and
dry
as
this
doesn't
meet
the
eligibility,
so
you're
not
eligible
to
apply
a
business
would
have
allocated
all
of
the
reasons
and
put
in
their
budget
what
they
would
like
to
allocate
all
of
those
applications
were
also
reviewed
by
the
Department
of
Finance
and
between
staffs
of
our
department
and
finance.
We
reviewed
all
that
the
business
provided
and
there's
probably
four
options
that
work
and
one
that
doesn't
so
when
we
do
a
comprehensive
review
of
their
budget,
which
is
required
before
they
receive
funding.
P
We
can
work
with
the
business
and
say
that
one
thing
isn't
allowed.
Where
would
you
like
to
allocate
what
you
had
indicated
would
fit
in
that
box,
but
we
can
move
that,
let's
say
ten
thousand
dollars
somewhere
else
into
one
of
the
categories
that
is
eligible.
So
it's
nuanced:
it's
not
exactly
you
don't
qualify
you're,
just
trying
to
spend
the
money
in
the
wrong
place.
It's
a
little
bit
more
nuanced.
O
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
we've
worked
side
by
side
with
the
Department
of
Finance
and
they've,
been
an
incredible
partner
because
of
the
fact
that
if
we,
this
money
is
not
allocated
appropriately,
the
money
will
need
to
go
back
to
the
federal
government
and
we
don't
want
to
find
ourselves
in
that
situation.
So.
O
E
O
E
O
And
if
I
may,
we
have
Jake
Maxwell,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
committee
and
Jake
I?
Don't
know
if
you
would
like
to
have
some
comments?
Maybe
your
your
board
has
expressed
that
they're
exhausted
and
yes,
oh
I'm,
sorry.
A
S
Don't
have
an
understanding
that
the
board
is
exhausted.
I
think
that
they're
all
very
passionate
about
who
stands
to
benefit
above
themselves,
but
that's
just
my
perspective
of
the
board.
Thanks.
K
H
A
I
have
a
question
to
staff
if
it
were,
if
we're
making
a
motion
and
someone
wanted,
they
would
have
to
amend
or
propose
a
substitute
Motion
in
this
case.
If
astroppel
fails,
does
somebody
else
get
to
just
propose
a
new
straw
poll
and
we
don't
need
to
do
any
or
they
have
the
option
of
making
a
friendly
Amendment
to
the
straw
poll?
A
A
A
L
Let's
do
a,
which
is
the
increase
for
42
applicants
and
then
bonus
points
in
phase
two.
H
Friendly
friendly
amendment
to
this
I
am
okay
and
I
said
it
at
the
beginning.
I'm
okay,
however,
I
send
the
money
and
supporting
those
misses
that
scored
High
I.
Think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
also
don't
want
to
hurt
the
businesses
that,
by
the
scoring
I
think
it
is
unfair.
I
would
like
to
support
this.
Can.
L
A
A
Okay,
that
looks
like
it's
four
to
three,
with
four
yeses,
those
being
counselor
Dugan
myself,
five
yeses,
oh
five,
to
two
councilmember
Dugan
myself:
I
wasn't
counting
myself
correctly:
councilman
councilman,
Wharton
and
council
member
Pui
with
council
members,
Fowler
and
valdemaros
voting
no
or
polling.
No,
all
right!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
engaging
Us
in
this.
Could.
O
A
A
A
H
I
Just
a
logistics
note,
the
option
the
council
selected
is
different
than
the
funding
log
included
in
packets,
so
Economic
Development
staff
will
provide
an
updated
funding.
Log
we'll
send
that
out
to
you
and
add
it
to
the
packet
I'm,
also
going
to
update
the
motion
sheet.
Since
some
council
members
have
asked
to
be
recused,
please
let
me
know
if
you
would
like
to
be
recused
from
an
applicant
and
I
missed
it,
so
we
can
get
it
ready
for
the
vote
tonight.
A
Thanks
Ben
all
right,
so
that
takes
us
to
item
number
five
item.
Number
five
is
an
ordinance
for
Grendel
Glendale
Regional
Park
plan.
Our
break
is
not
scheduled
for
another
hour.
How
are
council
members
doing
doing
all
right?
Okay?
So
let's
go
item
number
five.
We
have
at
the
table:
Allison
Roland,
Council
policy,
analyst.
Also
cat
Moss
public
lands
planner
and
available
in
the
audience
for
questions
as
director
of
our
public
lands,
Department
Kristen
Reicher
Allison.
Do
you
have
a
quick
introduction?
Thank.
T
Just
want
to
be
sure
to
mention
a
couple
budget
things
that
I
think
you'll
be
interested
in.
So
this
is
the
full
draft
of
the
Glendale
Regional
Park
plan
from
the
Department
of
Public
Lands,
and
the
idea
here
is
to
repurpose
the
17-acre
Glendale
water
park
site.
T
This
briefing
today
was
originally
scheduled
for
February
21st,
but
public
lands
wasn't
able
to
do
it
on
that
day.
So
that's
why
we're
doing
it
today?
March
7th,
which
is
the
same
day
as
the
public
hearing,
so
you'll
have
a
public
hearing
tonight
on
this
topic,
and
then
potential
action
will
be
on
March
21st,
which
is
the
next
formal
meeting
plans,
goals
which
I'm
sure
Kat
will
mention
in
more
detail,
are
to
provide
the
guiding
vision
and
design
for
the
Future
Park
and
establish
a
framework
for
development
and
programming
at
the
park.
T
It's
also
to
create
a
park
that
serves
the
neighborhood
and
also
has
amenities
that
create
a
regional
attraction
like
most
plans.
The
Glendale
Regional
Park
plan
sets
out
aspirations
for
full
Park
build
out,
but
the
funds
for
many
of
the
features
and
activities
have
not
yet
been
identified.
This
means
that
full
implementation
of
the
plan
will
be
contingent
on
funding
availability
year
to
year.
T
Typically,
the
department
received
Council
approval
to
Begin
work
on
phase
one
implementation
last
summer,
which
was
before
this
draft
plan
was
completed
and
adopted,
because
a
portion
of
the
park
must
be
open
by
April
2024..
This
is
a
requirement
of
the
federal
land
and
water
conservation
fund,
which
originally
funded
the
city's
purchase
of
the
site.
The
land
and
water
conservation
fund
requires
that
active
Recreation
be
publicly
accessible
on
site
within
three
years
of
beginning
to
remove
sorry
of
beginning
to
remove
existing
amenities.
T
This
is
a
complex
site.
I'll
leave
it
to
cat
to
discuss
that
aspect
in
more
detail,
but
just
to
briefly
hit
on
the
funding.
The
budget
estimate
for
full,
build
out
of
Glendale
Regional
Park
is
currently
30
to
50
million.
That's
a
big
range,
but
as
the
construction
drawings
get
underway,
the
the
department
plan.
Well,
it
will
have
to
have
more
precise
estimates
as
it
goes
along,
so
so
those
will
narrow.
T
Full
management
and
maintenance
costs
are
not
provided
in
the
plan,
and
this
this
is
not
unusual,
but
as
a
reminder,
last
year,
Parks
maintenance
became
eligible
for
a
share
of
the
annual
funding,
our
future
sales
tax
revenue,
which
last
year
was
funded
at
a
two
with
a
two
million
dollar
allocation
and
we'll
we'll
have
more
we'll
have
additional
information
on
that
I'm
sure.
When
we
start
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
plant,
this
plant
also
proposes
a
unique
level
of
ongoing
programming
and
activation.
T
The
annual
costs
estimated
in
the
plan
are
at
least
613
thousand
dollars
per
year,
and
the
reason
is
this
kind
of
programming
and
activation
that
really
other
parks
in
in
Salt
Lake
City
do
not
see.
It
also
proposes
additional
full-time
employees,
one
new
full-time
on-site
programming
manager
and
two
part-time
seasonal
Park
attendants.
T
T
The
previous
steps
in
the
planning
process
include
site
analysis,
conceptual
planning,
public
engagement,
reviews
of
previous
drafts
by
the
Council
on
May,
3rd
and
October
4th
last
year.
So
if
these,
if
this
seems
familiar,
there's
a
reason
for
it,
both
the
parks,
natural
lands,
urban
forestry
and
trails,
Advisory
board
or
peanut,
and
the
transportation
Advisory
Board
tab
reviewed
the
plan
and
provided
letters
of
support.
The
community
advisory
committee,
which
formed
specifically
to
guide
the
development
of
the
plan,
also
reviewed
the
full
draft
and
supports
it,
as
does
the
Glendale
neighborhood
Council.
U
Ie
I'm
awesome.
Thank
you
so
much
Allison
and
thank
you
for
having
me
again
to
talk
about
the
Glendale
Regional
Park
plan
and
secondary
thanks
for
moving
this
on
your
agenda
from
the
last
meeting
to
this.
One
I'm
really
really
excited
to
be
here
in
front
of
you
today,
as
we
kind
of
near
the
finish
line
for
this
Park's
vision
for
the
future.
U
It's
a
vision
supported
by
robust
community
and
public
engagement
and,
as
Alison
mentioned,
multiple
City
advisory
boards
and
I've,
been
here
before
you
a
couple
of
times
to
discuss
the
planning
process
and
the
materials
contained
within
the
plan.
So
I'll
kind
of
focus
on
some
new
information
that
hasn't
been
shared
prior
with
a
focus
on
planning
commissions,
recommendations
as
well
next
slide,
please
so
I'll
just
do
a
really
quick
overview
to
reorient
you
to
the
project.
U
The
plan
is
for
the
new
17
acre
Park
Park
site
that
will
guide
future
improvements
and
development
of
Glendale
Regional
Park
and
the
plan
incorporates
programming
operations
and
maintenance
needs,
outlines
physical
improvements
for
the
site
and
makes
recommendation
for
additional
exploration
in
the
future.
It
also
reflects,
first
and
foremost,
the
desires
of
the
Glendale
neighborhood,
while
also
making
this
a
place
that
everyone
in
our
city
can
enjoy
by
incorporating
Regional
amenities
that
will
draw
people
to
the
city's
west
side
and
as
we
move
through
the
adoption
process.
U
U
So
just
a
quick
review
of
the
goals
and
mission
statement
shared
with
you.
Previously.
These
were
confirmed
with
our
community
advisory
committee
for
the
project
and
the
general
public.
Through
our
engagement
processes,
many
of
these
goals
will
already
be
addressed
and
completed
if
this
plan
is
adopted
and
others
will
guide
the
implementation
of
the
plan
itself.
U
We
also
heard
that
one
of
the
top
priorities
of
this
community
and
the
city
is
for
the
creation
of
a
safe
space
with
high
levels
of
programming
to
make
it
just
really
welcoming,
and
while
this
vision
is
driven
by
the
Glendale
Community,
we
know
it
needs
to
be
a
regional
destination.
With
the
amount
of
funding
this
is
receiving
connecting
a
number
of
Open
Spaces
along
the
Jordan
River,
and
then
finally,
we
heard
a
resounding
need
from
both
the
youth
we
engaged
with,
and
the
router
Community.
U
U
All
of
this
planning
work
has
had
a
direct
influence
on
the
final
plan
for
the
site
to
fulfill
the
goals
that
we
set
out
to
achieve,
based
on
all
of
the
investigation
and
engagement,
the
space,
showcases,
Gathering
and
event
spaces,
with
the
inclusion
of
a
community
Plaza
a
flex
of
stage,
an
event
space
and
includes
both
passive
and
active
Recreation
spaces
with
picnic,
Lawns,
full
court,
basketball
and
pickleball
and
I
just
want
a
quick
side
note
here
in
terms
of
the
pickleball
just
for
additional
clarification.
U
The
plan
does
include
six
brand
new
pickleball
courts,
they're
just
not
included
in
the
graphic
above
because
they're
outside
the
17
Acres.
They
will
be
adjacent
to
the
current
tennis
courts.
Just
to
the
West
at
the
Glendale
neighborhood
park
and
they're
anticipated
for
phase
two
of
improvements.
Full
court
basketball
was
ranked
higher
throughout
our
public
engagement
processes.
So
that's
Incorporated
in
our
first
phase
and
while
we
wait
for
these
new
six
pickleball
ball
courts
to
be
constructed,
we're
using
Blended
lines
on
four
of
the
current
tennis
courts.
U
And,
as
we
met
with
multiple
advisory
groups
and
the
Planning
Commission,
it
was
clear
that
programming
would
be
super
essential
to
the
site
to
keep
it
safe
and
usable
and
engaging
as
it
comes
online
So.
The
plan
also
explores
programming
opportunities
and
plans
as
we
move
through
construction.
So
next
slide
please
and
I
mentioned
in
previous
presentations.
Public
lands
does
not
currently
have
a
robust
programming
arm
or
the
capacity
to
program
a
site
of
the
scale.
U
So
as
part
of
our
planning
process,
we
engage
the
subconsultant
Agora
Partners
to
identify
and
further
investigate
potential
programming
opportunities
and
interests
in
the
park.
They
also
explored
potential
immediate
potential
programming
immediately
to
phase
one
as
it
comes
online,
which
is
shown
here
on
the
screen.
They
assessed
the
various
amenities
that
will
be
added
brainstormed
ideas
for
programming
and
then
actually
began,
facilitating
conversations
and
building
relationships
with
stakeholders
and
external
organizations
that
may
be
interested
in
programming
the
site
and
phase.
One
is
primarily
consisting
of
a
playground.
U
Much
of
the
programming
potential
is
kind
of
geared
around
youth.
However,
access
to
the
Jordan
River
will
remain
open
and
will
allow
for
programming
opportunities
along
the
river
as
well
and
then
with
the
passive
long.
There
are
also
opportunities
for
outdoor
experiential,
programming,
Arts
culture
and
sports,
and
then
next
slide.
Please
we'll
dive
into
programming
for
the
full
vision.
U
As
we
start,
bringing
other
phases
online
there'll
be
opportunities
for
aquatic
programming,
performance
and
events
and
potential
within
the
skate
and
dog
parks
as
well.
Programming
on
the
site
will
be
really
key
in
just
creating
that
safe
anchor
space
for
the
community
and
will
provide
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
folks
to
enjoy
and
experience
the
whole
park
in
different
ways
and
there's
a
lot
of
in-depth
information
and
programming
recommendations
within
the
plan
itself.
U
So
our
we
had
our
consultant
explore
external
opportunities
for
programming,
but
we
also
had
them
propose
internal
mechanisms
to
facilitate
programming
on
site
so
shown
on
this
screen
here
in
this
table
and
also
within
the
plan.
This
is
that
600
plus
thousand
that
Allison
mentioned.
These
are
recommendations
that
the
consultant
made
for
internal
costs
that
may
be
associated
with
programming
the
site.
U
They
assess
the
market
potential
of
the
park,
who
is
likely
to
visit
the
park
when
they're
likely
to
visit
the
park
from
daily
use,
to
weekday
and
yearly
distribution
of
that
use
and
then
made
recommendations
as
to
how
we
can
plan
for
that
next
slide.
Please,
foreign
one
other
thing,
as
that
pulls
up
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
that
will
have
an
impact
on
our
operations.
Maintenance
and
programming
is
the
site's
certification,
and
this
is
different
than
any
other
projects
or
parks
that
we
have
in
the
city.
U
Sites
is
a
rating
system
based
on
the
idea
that
a
project
has
the
ability
to
not
only
protect
but
improve
and
regenerate
healthy
ecosystems
in
Spaces,
by
reducing
water,
filtering
storm,
water,
runoff,
providing
habitat
and
improving
air
quality
and
human
health.
The
certification
is
managed
by
the
United
States
Green
Building
Council,
which
is
the
same
that
manages
the
lead
rating
system,
so
sites
is
kind
of
the
equivalent
rating
system
used
for
parks
and
Landscapes.
That
lead
is
for
buildings.
U
There's
only
one
other
certified
landscape
in
the
state
of
Utah
and
Glendale
would
potentially
be
the
first
of
its
kind,
the
only
public
park
certified
in
Utah
and
throughout
the
public
engagement.
It
was
really
clear.
The
access
to
Nature,
Environmental,
Quality
and
environmental
justice
were
all
really
high
priorities,
so
this
certification
process
is
kind
of
one
of
the
ways
we
can
fulfill
these
goals.
U
So
the
site,
as
Alison
mentioned,
received
funding
from
the
land
and
water
conservation
fund.
A
condition
of
that
is
that
the
site
may
only
be
inaccessible
to
the
public
for
recreation
for
a
maximum
of
three
years,
which
will
conclude
for
us,
April
2024.
So
to
me
that
deadline
design
for
phase
one
is
significantly
underway.
We're
also
splitting
a
phase
one
into
two
kind
of
Parts
phase,
one
a
and
phase
1B,
so
that
we
can
deliver
this
recreational
component.
U
By
that
time,
phase
1A
includes
an
all
ages,
playground
with
accessible
design
and
assistive
Technologies
and
phase
1B
will
come
immediately
after
including
a
community
Gathering
space
in
Plaza
parking
and
plantings
native
plantings
in
the
site,
and
then
this
was
selected
to
build
upon
the
current
Glendale
park
site
just
to
the
west,
to
kind
of
make
an
impact
with
our
first
round
of
development
that
will
be
open
and
we're
really
really
excited
to
see
this
start
coming
online
in
April
of
next
year.
U
So
next
slide
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time
today
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
the
broader
plan
or
some
of
the
things
we
touched
on
today.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
So
much.
M
K
Dugan,
thank
you.
Kat
I
appreciate
that
and
appreciate
the
effort
on
across
the
board
on
this
park.
This
is
this
is
pretty
exciting
stuff
for
a
long
time,
I'm
always
concerned
about
the
access
across
1700
South
and
from
1700
South,
and
the
cost
of
improving
that
street
calming
and
the
access
across
that
road
and
making
sure
that
is
a
safe
road.
K
So
people
can
go,
walk
back
and
forth
across
that
is
30
to
50
million
dollars
is
a
big
spread,
so
is
the
is
that
street
calming
and
the
access
across
from
1700
part
of
the
earlier
parts
of
the
phases.
I
know
not
phase
one
but
early
part
of
the
phases,
and
do
we
have
the
funding
that
we
looked
at
WRC
and
the
state
on
helping
us
fund
that
side
of
it.
U
U
While
it's
not
specifically
called
out
within
the
Glendale
Regional
Park
funding,
the
transportation
division
does
have
immediate
funding
to
work
on
improvements
across
1700
South
right
now,
sorry
and
then
our
pursuing
additional
funding
in
the
future
for
more
major
Renovations,
but
we're
working
in
very
close
collaboration
with
them
to
improve
that
and
then
tab
and
our
peanut
board
recommendation.
U
Letters
also
are
kind
of
we
added
a
recommendation
within
our
master
plan,
they're
this
this
plan
to
address
public
transportation
in
that
area
to
make
that
a
little
bit
better
and
specifically
address
safe
Crossings
on
1700
South.
Thank.
K
K
How
does
that
compare
to
say
the
costs
that
we
budget
for
liberty
or
Pioneer
Park
and
are
they
compatible
comparable,
I
guess
on
the
costs
compared
to
Liberty
and
Associate
and
then
also
same
thing
on
Liberty
and
you
had
the
visitations
of
the
year
of
you
know:
350
to
450,
depending
on
the
day
or
night,
how's
that
compared
to
Liberty
and
Pioneer
Park.
As
far
as
visitations.
U
I
can
touch
on
a
little
bit
of
that,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
in
full
comparison
to
those
two.
But
our
Consultants
looked
at
parks
of
this
size
in
communities
of
this
size
to
make
those
recommendations,
and
they
were
reviewed
by
our
internal
Finance.
The
staff
to
kind
of
confirm
that
in
comparison
to
Liberty
and
Pioneer,
I
might
defer
to
Kristen.
Q
Not
sure
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
give
you
a
better
answer.
Liberty
Park
is
100
acres
and
this
facility
is
17..
They
both
have
swimming
pools.
Although
the
county
pays
for
the
operations
of
the
swimming
pool
at
Liberty
Park,
we
don't
pay
for
that
and
then
the
Aviary,
which
I'm
not
sure
how
many
acres
that
is,
but
they
are
self-sustaining.
Five
acres,
eight
eight
Acres,
so
they're
self-sustaining,
so
pull
those
out
also
at
Liberty
Park
we
use
secondary
water,
and
so
we
don't
pay
for
water.
So
it's
there.
It's
really
they're,
not
Apples.
To
Apples.
Q
Yeah,
the
the
the
new
piece
is
17
Acres.
A
U
H
When
I
was
looking
at
your
document,
there
was
a
climate
considerations
page
that
said,
29
of
the
Year
Salt
Lake
City
is
comfortable
only
on
29
of
the
year.
Seven
percent
of
the
year
is
too
hot
and
64
percent
of
the
year
is
too
cold,
which
kind
of
shocking
to
me.
But
I
guess
we
might
have
different
definitions,
I
think
it's
more
than
29
of
the
year,
but
the
where's,
the
question
related
to
the
pool.
H
So
if
the
community
I
don't
know,
you
know
how
they
start,
I
mean
this
is
based
on
that
I
guess
but
like
what
is
comfortable,
defined,
comfortable
right
but
doesn't
mean
that
64
of
the
year
the
pool
will
be
close
or
not
like
what
you
know
and
then
I'm
gonna
have
this
gigantic.
You
know
empty
concrete
thing,
not
used
because
most
people
think
there's
too
cold
for
it.
So
have
we
thought
through
that?
And
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
that?
Since
the
community
is
also
asking
for
a
water
amenity.
U
Chin,
so
the
pool
is
also
as
Kristen
mentioned.
The
county
operates
almost
all
of
our
pools
currently
and
then
outdoor
water
feature
specifically
is
listed
in
the
counties.
U
2015
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
for
this
exact
site,
so
that's
specified
as
outdoor,
and
then
the
community
also
specified
an
outdoor
swimming
pool
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
indoor
Sorensen
multi
Multicultural
Center
signer
West
is
an
indoor
amenity,
so
it
was
requested
specifically
by
the
community
and
the
county
to
explore
an
outdoor
amenity,
you're,
absolutely
right,
I
think
we
deal
with
this
I
think
at
Liberty
Park
as
well.
U
There
is
a
good
portion
of
the
Year
where
that
space
isn't
utilized
and
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
have
to
deal
with
here
as
well.
64
of
the
Year
seems
like
a
lot
of
unused
time.
I
wouldn't
anticipate
it
maybe
being
there
but
yeah.
It's
a
really
great
point
and
something
that
we
definitely
will
have
to
deal
with.
As
this
moves
forward,
the.
Q
County's
pools
are
open,
Memorial,
Day
through
Labor,
Day
and
all
of
them,
except
for
Steiner
East.
That
one
has
a
little
bit
of
an
extension
and
they
stay
longer
because
they
have
so
much
so
much
use
so
they're
in
its
large
lap
swimming
pool,
but
all
the
others
close.
We
had
conversations
with
the
county
we
have
had
and
we
will
continue
to
have
conversations
with
the
county.
We
would
love
for
them
to
continue
to
take
on
this
as
well,
because
we
don't
operate
any
pools.
Q
County
operates
all
of
our
pools,
and
so
we
would
love
for
them
to
take
this
on.
Their
master
plan
says
that
they'll
have
an
outdoor
water
amenity,
but
they're
not
it
did
not
specify
an
outdoor
pool.
They
were
thinking
more
of
a
splash
pad
and
one
that
was
brought
to
the
community
as
cat
said
that
wasn't
what
the
community
wanted.
They
would
love
to
see
another
indoor
pool,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
lap
swimmers
and
swim
teams
that
are
looking
for
space,
always
in
areas
like
that.
Q
We're
trying
really
hard
to
represent
the
community
request
and
needs,
and
we
strongly
heard
that
they
want
an
outdoor
pool
in
this
location
because
that's
what
was
there,
and
so
this
is
the
replacement
for
that.
So
we're
hoping
that
the
county
will
partner
with
us
on
that
they
didn't
say
no
I
can't
say
they
were
overly
enthusiastic
either.
They've
had
a
really
rough
year
with
finding
lifeguards
and
staff
for
outdoors
and
summertime
swimming
pools.
So.
U
Just
one
more
thing
on
the
pool:
this
is
one
Element
within
the
master
plan
that
we
know
we
want
to
include,
but
will
require
a
lot
of
additional
engagement
to
kind
of
determine
what
the
community
does
want
to
see
there.
So
that
will
be
coming
as
that
amenity
comes
online.
A
Councilman
other
questions
on
this
I
had
a
quick
question
on
the
it
kind
of
relates
to
what
you
were
just
talking
about,
but
the
programming
of
our
Parks
understanding
that
we
do
not
have
the
robust
system
for
programming
our
Parks
as
a
city.
But
what
are
some
of
our?
A
Can
you
maybe
get
a
little
more
granular
about
what
some
of
the
partnership
potential
might
be
with
Glendale
park,
but
also
other
Parks
throughout
the
city
in
order
to
increase
program,
I,
think
of
Tracy
Aviary
or
things
like
that,
as
actually
really
excellent
sort
of
Partnerships
that
we
have
also
I
see
Dustin
in
the
back
with
the
rides
at
Liberty,
Park
I
think
those
sort
of
programming
Partnerships
that
we
have
are
really
a
great
way
for
us
to
activate
the
parks
and
not
necessarily
at
our
own
dollar
or
our
own
staff
member
time,
but
allowing
businesses
or
non-profits
to
function
within
our
public
lands
as
long
as
they're
like
compatible
things.
A
U
Yeah
I
can
touch
on
Glendale,
so
Agora
Partners
was
our
subconsult
and
those
specifically
to
programming,
and
they
kind
of
came
up
with
a
a
document
to
enhance
Glendale
Regional
Park
Vision
plan.
That
was
basically
all
their
background
investigation.
All
the
Partnerships
they've
been
investigating
throughout
the
development
of
this
plan
and
we've
also
brought
them
on
board
throughout
the
phase
one
development
to
determine
which
specific
relationships
we
should
be
building
for
phase
one
and
how
to
kind
of
incorporate
that
programming
in
immediately
once
those
amenities
come
online.
U
So
we're
working
with
them
to
kind
of
finalize
that
document.
It's
basically
a
list
of
organ
folks
within
organizations
that
are
interested
in
short
and
long-term
programming
opportunities
at
this
site,
specifically
and
I,
a
huge
shout
out
to
our
community
advisory
committee
as
well
for
providing
a
lot
of
those
recommendations
for
organizations
and
programming.
So
we're
hoping
to
have
that
document
kind
of
finalized
and
ready
to
go
that
we
can
utilize
for
phase
one
in
terms
of
the
rest
of
the
City.
Q
And
I'll
just
add
that
creating
infrastructure
for
events
like
that
is
really
important,
and
that
was
thought
about
with
this,
in
particular
with
you
know
the
Great
Lawn
and
the
passive
space
that
we
have
available
considering
5K
runs.
There's
a
lot
of
requests
for
5K
runs
music
opportunities
to
have
music
and
festivals
that
was
considered
in
in
this
design,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
currently
at
Liberty
Park
were
maxed
out
on
right
and
so
we're
hoping
to
have
shift
some
of
that.
Q
Q
A
So
I
think
that
I
appreciate
that.
That's
something
that's
a
goal
for
me,
and
so
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
like,
maybe
even
just
I,
don't
know
if
some
organization
has
a
idea
who
do
they
contact?
Is
there
a
forum
on
the
website
where
they
can
figure
out
how
to
partner
with
the
city
in
order
to
bring
activation
into
our
Parks
I?
Think
it's
building
out
that
partnership
is
is
really
important.
K
That
I,
just
Yeah
in
our
staff
report,
there's
five
policy
questions
from
one
of
them
being
the
the
budgeting
side.
You
know
we
have
some
items
that
are
impact
fee
eligible
or
Geo
Bond
eligible.
So
what's
our
what's
our
plan
or
strategies
to
address
those
to
the
park
rangers?
How
do
we
incorporate
this
in
in
the
park
ranger
program
or
when
do
we
bring
those
Park
Rangers
and
how
they
are
the
attendance
just
for
Liberty
Park
or
they
or
I
mean
Glendale
park,
or
they
were
the
park
rangers.
K
A
Should
we
request
a
written
response
and
then,
if
I
feel
like
it's
necessary
for
if
anyone
feels
like
it's
necessary
for
another
discussion,
we
can
discuss,
we
can
decide
whether
or
not
that
we
have
time
for
that.
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
this,
where
I
think
we're
all
really
excited
about
this
new
amenity
on
the
west
side,.
A
A
I
Yes,
I've
got
an
introduction
and
then
we
can
run
through
the
individual
items.
This
is
the
first
briefing
for
budget
amendment
number
five.
The
public
hearing
is
scheduled
for
tonight.
I
There
are
three
items
that
are
Urgent
with
straw
polls
being
requested:
I'll
Point,
those
out
as
we
get
to
them
and
Scott.
Can
you
put
page
two
of
the
staff
report
up?
That's
the
one.
This
is
a
follow-up
from
previous
Council
discussions.
Staff
heard
the
council
wanted
to
track
items
approved
mid-year
in
budget
amendments
to
understand
the
potential
new
ongoing
cost
that
would
need
to
be
included
in
the
next
general
fund
annual
budget.
I
I
By
far
the
biggest
chunk
is
the
very
first
item:
the
homeless,
shelter
cities
mitigation,
Grant,
that
is
13
ftes,
2.2
million
dollars.
The
city
expects
to
apply
for
that
funding
annually.
Assuming
the
funding
is
provided,
it
would
cover
those
costs,
but
if
the
city
is
awarded
less
than
it
needed,
then
the
general
fund
would
pick
up
the
difference.
I
I
I
These
are
the
revised
Revenue
updates.
Most
of
the
favorable
Revenue
line
items
are
being
driven
by
sales.
Tax
and
interest.
Income
are
currently
8.4
million
above
the
amended
budget
and
I
believe
Mary
Beth
is
working
on
a
sales
tax
update
to
come
to
the
council
with
the
next
budget.
Amendment.
I
I
A2
is
a
request
for
2.65
million
dollars
from
general
fund
balance
for
City
Hall
earthquake
repairs.
Council
members
may
remember
seeing
similar
items
in
previous
budget
amendments.
This
is
in
addition
to
the
9.2
million
that
was
previously
approved,
with
the
additional
funding
repairs
to
City.
Hall
are
expected
to
be
fully
funded
and
all
the
expenses
are
expected
to
be
reimbursed
by
insurance.
It's
a
mixture
of
the
city
fronting
some
of
the
money
for
later
inbursement
and
some
of
the
payout
from
the
insurance
on
the
front
end.
K
K
H
A
I
K
A
I
And
then
the
other
item
that
has
a
straw
poll
request
is
A5:
2.4
million
dollars
from
the
IMs
fund
or
Public
Safety
radio
replacement
cost
increases.
You
may
remember
this
from
CIP.
Last
year
the
council
approved
3.7
million
dollars
for
the
same
purpose,
so
the
total
funding,
if
you
approve
this
item,
would
be
6.1
million
for
Public,
Safety,
handheld
and
mobile
radios,
as
well
as
fixed
control
stations
and
then,
of
course,
removal
of
the
old
and
installation
of
the
new
equipment.
I
This
is
separate
from
the
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
from
the
sales
tax
Bond
last
year.
Those
bond
funds
are
going
to
the
radio
towers
and
the
related
infrastructure
that
creates
the
networks
serving
these
radios
that
are
used
by
many
city
employees,
Enterprise
funds,
including
the
airport
and
Public
Utilities
they're
budgeting
to
cover
radio
equipment
Replacements
within
their
future
budgets.
I
A
H
You
Mr
chair
I.
This
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
it
seems
to
be
a
very
needed.
You
know
item
what
is
the
life
expectancy
if
we
can
guess
of
something
this
major
I.
W
H
W
Yeah,
these
radios
are
for
Public
Safety,
that's
where
we're
starting
with,
and
then
we
would
Branch
out
to
the
other
departments
in
another
budget
budget
proposal.
Thank.
H
I
To
the
point
that
this
is
a
large
amount
of
money
at
one
time,
IMS
shared
that
they're
looking
at
creating
ongoing
radio
replacement
program.
So,
instead
of
waiting
to
replace
them
all
at
one
time
with
a
larger
expense,
it
would
be
replaced
in
smaller
batches
ongoing,
similar
to
what
is
done
with
computers.
K
I
That
takes
us
to
A6
a
request
for
a
quarter
million
dollars
from
the
IMs
fund
for
Consulting
to
replace
Public
Utilities
Billing
System
for
pubs.
It
was
developed
and
expanded
by
IMS
over
the
past
two
decades.
Some
general
fund
departments
use
the
system
too,
like
sustainability
and
community
and
neighborhoods.
I
The
funding
would
be
used
to
hire
a
consultant
to
evaluate
the
city's
needs
and
then
recommend
options
for
a
new
Billing
System.
There
is
a
little
urgency
to
this,
because
Microsoft
is
going
to
end
support
for
the
current
system
as
soon
as
July
of
next
year.
That's
why
it's
coming
to
you
in
a
budget
amendment
and
not
in
the
annual
budget.
I
The
next
item
is
A7.
This
is
a
request
to
rescope
existing
funding
for
the
Lindsay
Gardens.
It
was
a
CIP
project
in
fiscal
year,
20
CIP,
the
rescope
will
take
the
remaining
funds,
459
thousand
dollars
and
authorize
them
for
the
reduced
scope.
The
primary
change
is
renovating
a
concession
stand
instead
of
full
rebuild
at
a
new
location
with
new
utility
lines,
which
is
much
more
expensive.
I
The
funding
level
is
probably
not
enough
for
even
the
reduced
scope,
the
public
lands
Department
would
start
with
the
concession
stand
renovation
and
then
work
down
the
list.
As
far
as
the
funding
will
go,
the
current
league
president
was
made
aware
of
the
challenges
with
inflation
and
provided
a
note
in
support
of
this
scope,
change
that
the
staff
report.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
it,.
I
H
W
So
it's
an
anonymous
donation.
We
did
a
donation
agreement
with
the
individual
with
the
individuals
that
gave
the
donation
and
it's
specifically
for
the
cemetery.
A
L
Does
acceptance
of
this
donation
bind
us
to
raise
revenue?
Can
we
have
it
and
make
whatever
improvements?
It
affords
us
without
completing
all
of
the
improvements
that
need
to
be
made.
W
I
The
next
item,
A9,
is
a
request
for
one-time
retention
bonuses
and
ongoing
hiring
bonuses
for
police
officers.
We
heard
earlier
today
that
the
administration
is
working
on
a
revised
proposal.
It's
expected
to
be
available
for
a
council
briefing
as
soon
as
next
week,
so
I'll
skip
to
the
next
item.
Since
the
information
in
the
staff
report
is
not
the
latest.
I
I
The
options
to
close
the
street
coming
out
of
the
study
could
be
permanent
or
partial,
and
it
could
be
based
on
different
seasons
days
a
week
and
times
of
the
day,
the
scope
of
work
includes
examining
the
current
Street
conditions,
creating
the
planning
and
the
design
recommendations
for
the
different
scenarios,
as
well
as
visualizing.
What
those
Concepts
could
look
like,
as
well
as
public
Outreach
and
cost
estimates
for
each
of
the
scenarios.
I
There
are
two
policy
questions
Council
may
wish
to
discuss
if
the
scope
of
work
meets
the
council's
goals
for
the
study.
The
other
question
is
about
activating
Main
Street
downtown
this
summer.
The
last
few
years
the
council
provided
funding
to
partially
close
Main
Street
from
South
Temple
to
400
South
on
weekends,
from
Memorial
Day
to
Labor
Day,
there's,
currently
no
funding
available
to
continue
the
program.
K
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
project
and
a
wonderful
program.
I
think
closing
the
main
street
down
during
the
summer
time
or
weekends
or
other
time
is,
is
an
awesome
idea
and
I
want
to
continue
to
study
it
and
implement
it
in
some
in
some
fashion
and
and
I
really
want
to
push
forward
on
activating
for
for
this
summer.
Also.
So
so
those.
A
Are
two
separate
questions
right
a11
is
the
study
for
the
permanent
thing
and
then
I
one
is
with
Street
activation
for
this
year.
Is
that
correct,
Ben.
X
A
Going
to
cost
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
place,
but
I
am
interested
in
what
a
little
more
detail
about
what
those
ordinance
changes
are
that
are
making
it
more
difficult
this
year
than
it
was
last
year.
I
assume
it
has
something
to
do
with
private
use
of
public
real
estate.
Is
it?
Is
there
some.
G
A
Y
Can
you
hear
me
am
I
good
all
right
there
we
go
now
we
can
yeah,
so
some
of
the
restrictions
that
we
were
well
I
guess
more
allowances
that
we
were
operating
under
during
covid
in
the
pandemic,
during
when
the
emergency
proclamations
were
in
place,
allowed
us
to
do
a
lot
more
things
with
the
street
and
allowing
for
the
open
streets
event
to
have
in
place
with
a
lot
less
barriers.
Once
those
emergency
proclamations
dropped
off
that
we
were
kind
of
back
to
business
as
usual.
A
Okay,
so
the
pandemic
ordinance
has
basically
said,
go
ahead
and
use
whatever
to
keep
your
business
afloat
and
that's
no
longer
the
case,
so
I
I,
assume
I'm,
hoping
there's
still
a
path
for
us
to
do.
A
similar
thing
may
take
another
ordinance
or
something,
but
what
you're
saying
is
that,
right
now
the
ordinances
don't
allow
that
by.
Y
Y
We,
yes,
we
did
have
Delise
public
space
on
the
sidewalk
which
we
didn't,
which
we
had
temporary
permits
for
under
the
previous
under
those
emergency
proclamations.
So
there's
some
additional
costs.
There
also
additional
costs
with
closing
the
intersections
and
requirements
for
fire
safety,
we're
also
a
significant
cost
of
the
project
as
well.
So.
A
Y
Yes,
and
and
while
those
aren't
as
significant
and
can
be
overcome,
I
think
that
the
the
street
closures
and
the
requirements
for
street
closure
were
the
biggest
ticket
item
on
that
budget
and
what
was
kind
of
restricting
us
the
most
in
hosting.
Y
H
I've
been
digging
into
this,
but
look
Ben
lutke
here
has
been
helping
me,
try
to
find
the
numbers
and
the
spreadsheet
that
we've
gotten
or
talks
about
security
ranges
of
you
know.
If
we're
going
to
do
it
only
the
weekends,
if
we're
going
to
do
it
the
whole
week
or
like
all
these
costs,
except
for
their
rental
right,
it's
somewhat
fixed
right,
so
I
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
in
talking
to
a
lot
of
people
about
this.
H
Still
it's
still
moving
Target,
but
about
instead
of
renting
trying
to
put
some
money
into
actually
making,
not
only
temporary
barriers,
but
you
know
always
barriers
on
the
tracks
sites
to
prevent
people
from
running
into
the
trucks
which
is
the
longest
part
of
the
red
rental.
The
the
barriers
that
we
rent
every
every
summer
so
to
me,
I,
prefer
I
I
would
like
this
Council
to
fund
that,
or
at
least
to
put
some
money.
H
You
know
it
cost
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
it
on
the
weekends
only
just
rent
it
I
would
like
us
to
put
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
into
a
separate.
You
know
as
a
placeholder
to
to
see
if
we
can
actually
what
we
can
do
with
150
000
to
actually
create
those
barriers
right
across
the
street.
O
Thank
you,
I
I
actually
have
been
getting
some
really
good
feedback
and
I
appreciate
Cindy
raising
this
issue.
O
The
concern
of
you
know
having
wonderful
activities
downtown
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
appreciate
that
feedback,
as
your
constituents
provide
that
feedback
to
the
Council
Office,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
we're
going
to
be
meeting
with
the
downtown
Alliance
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks
to
ensure
that
maybe
there's
a
plan
moving
forward,
I,
don't
know
what
it
will
look
like,
but
addressing
the
issue
because
in
as
much
as
the
study
is
something
that
needs
to
happen,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
great
part
of
our
due
diligence.
O
If
there
would
be
if
mainstream
were
to
become
a
pedestrian
mall,
we
also
need
to
ensure
that
people
don't
forget
about
downtown
and
because
of
that
feedback
that
I
believe
many
constituents
have
provided
to
the
council's
office.
We're
going
to
be
meeting
and
trying,
hopefully
have
something
that
we
can
bring
back
to
you
as
options,
and
maybe
the
downtown
Alliance
can
provide
those
options.
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
that
is
going
to
be
happening.
E
So
welcome
sorry,
Mr
chair
so.
H
E
We
saw
something:
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
it
wasn't,
for
the
train,
but
also
actually
for
the
street.
I
talked
to
John
Larson
about
it
too
and
I
think
I
want
that
too,
because
the
ones
that
we're
using
are
different
and
maybe
are
not
very
nice
looking,
but
the
ones
that
we
saw
in
Cincinnati
were
nice
and
easy
to
transport,
and
also
very
well
anyway.
Yeah.
Z
Z
A
Have
a
any
more
questions,
I
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
I
think,
even
if
understanding
that
we
had
some
leeway
during
the
pandemic-
and
we
all
wanted
to
do
that-
I
think
that
this
is.
Hopefully
there
are
a
lot
of
things
from
the
pandemic
that
we
learned
that
we
can
continue
to
do
in
perpetuity,
and
this
is
one,
but
it
seems
like
there's
pretty
why
support
for
not
just
from
Council
Members
or
from
the
public
so
and
I
also
agree.
We
want
to
do
it
right
and
do
it
nice.
A
So
it's
it's
not
something
we're
renting
all
the
time,
but
it's
something
that
we
just
have,
because
we
know
we're
going
to
do
it
every
year.
So,
however,
that
looks
let's
let's
try
and
find
a
path
through
that.
So
in
that
note,
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
i1,
which
is
adding
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
I,
know
that's
a
placeholder
number
but
like
just
how
far
can
we
get
with
that?
But
one
more
question:
I
I
was
I,
understand
that
there
have
been
some
concerns
or
some
people
have
raised
concerns
about
liability
issues.
O
A
So
so
for
me,
that's
a
support
on
both
a11
and
i1
right,
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
to
struggle
because
we're
only
struggling
those
first
three
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
that
added
Ben.
Sorry
to
derail
the
conversation.
We
don't
just
councilman.
We
don't
have
to
get
through
this
whole
list
today
right.
We
we
have
this
plan
for
to
come
back
on
the
14th,
so
we
don't
have
to
get
through
this
list
today.
I
So
the
next
item
is
D1,
just
a
quick
note,
with
interest
rates
going
up.
Sometimes
that
has
benefits
for
the
city.
This
item
is
recognizing
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
interest
income
from
Bond
proceeds
that
are
in
City
accounts.
That's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
will
go
to
reconstruct
more
city
streets.
G
I
I
I
The
Reconstruction
is
coming
in
over
two
million
dollars
under
budget
and
the
proposal
is
to
take
that
two
million
dollars
and
make
it
available
for
other
Street
reconstructions
we're
working
with
engineering
to
get
an
updated
list
of
which
streets
this
may
go
to.
Since
the
list
that
was
included
in
the
transmittal.
Most
of
those
streets
have
already
been
reconstructed.
So
in
the
updated
staff
report,
we'll
include
the
updated
list.
K
Are
they
just
picking
the
streets
off
their
they're
planned
moving
forward,
the
2025
plan
of
Street
reconstruction
plan,
those
streets,
or
they
just
picking
up
different
ones.
I
You're
correct
it's
Engineers
six-year
pavement
plan
where
they
lay
out
which
sections
of
local
streets
are
to
be
reconstructed
and
then
the
major
arterials
as
well.
So.
G
I
The
rest
of
the
items
in
section
D
are
some
standard
housekeeping
items.
I
think
we
can
jump
to
E1.
I
I
Some
quick
examples,
eviction
prevention,
case
management,
mediation,
legal
assistance,
the
city
partnered,
with
the
state
to
get
the
earlier
23
million
dollars
out
to
renters.
This
is
the
rent
relief
dot
pod.gov
website
that
we've
been
trying
to
spread
the
word
about
for
the
last
two
years.
I
There's
two
policy
questions
the
council
may
want
to
discuss
how
to
prioritize
this
4
million.
Do
you
support
the
split
2
million
for
rent
assistance
and
the
other
two
million
for
housing
stability
services?
Or
did
you
want
to
look
at
other
options
and
the
other
question
is:
does
the
council
want
to
delegate
authority
to
the
administration
to
make
final
funding
Awards
or,
as
typically
the
case,
The
Advisory,
Board
and
mayor
make
recommendations,
but
the
council
makes
the
final
funding
decision.
A
A
This
is
now
four
million,
two
of
which
would
be
rental
assistance,
similar
to
what
we
talked
about
earlier
today
and
two
million
for
housing,
the
Services
stability
Services,
which
are
the
thing,
the
other
thing
that
we
did
not
Fund
in
or
that
we're
proposing
to
not
Fund
in
that
previous
discussion
am
I.
Understanding
that
correct.
I
A
But
the
you
had
that
chart
previously.
That
was
like
here's,
the
difference
between
tenant-based
rental
assistance
and
whatever
things,
and
there
was
like
a
yes,
no
red
green
thing,
we're
talking
about
those
two
columns
now
and
splitting
this
four
million
dollars
evenly
between
those
two
columns
or
those
slightly
different
definitions.
Still.
A
Level,
though,
we're
thinking
about
it
the
correct
way,
but
there
may
be
some
specific
council
members
I
think
this
is
worth
discussing
a
little
bit.
Councilman
Dugan
I
agree
I'm,
not
sure.
If
this
is
oh
yeah
may
we
invite
can
staff
for
whoever
may
be
Phil.
They
have
expertise
in
this
area
to
come,
join
us
at
the
table.
Blake
and
Tammy
I'm.
A
So
the
proposal
in
the
budget
amendment
is
four
million
dollars
to
split
evenly
between
rental
assistance
and
how
how's
I
keep
I,
keep
forgetting
and
support
things.
Can
you
help
us,
through
this
Tami
airplane.
J
Yes,
we
could
send
additional
information
through
a
follow-up
email,
but
in
general
it's
my
understanding,
because
there
is
that
limit
with
the
2
million
on
what
can
be
used
for
rental
assistance,
with
the
the
timeliness
issue
at
hand
that
we're
proposing
the
second
two
million
to
be
used
for
housing,
stability,
Services
broadly
defined
to
any
of
the
services
and
programs
that
housing
stability
has
been
administering
through
their
shop.
But
that
could
definitely
be
narrowed
down
by
the
council.
X
I
appreciate
it
hello
expert:
what
is
your
Romberg
I'm
a
grant
specialist
with
the
housing
stability
division,
so
the
division
here
is
2
million
for
the
Department
of
Workforce
Services
rental
assistance
program.
That's
the
rent,
relief.utah.gov
they've
actually
already
spent
a
lot
of
this
money.
I
have
an
invoice.
That's
ready
as
soon
as
the
city
is
willing
to
pay
it
for
rental
assistance,
that's
already
gone
out
the
door
and
then
the
other
two
million.
So
the
city
can
decide
whether
to
approve
that
or
not.
X
We
could
then
right
now
they're
projecting
about
a
12
million
dollar
shortfall
on
rental
assistance,
Statewide,
and
so,
if
we
say
no,
that
we'll
go
up
to
a
14
million
dollar
shortfall
for
their
projection
cool.
X
So
that's
up
to
the
city
council
to
decide.
They.
X
A
Okay,
let's
not
open
that
one
again,
but
wait
so
the
the
department
of
reverse
Services
has
already
provided
rent
assistance
to
those
who
qualify,
but
they've
provided
more
than
so.
This
is
not
new
people
that
would
be
served.
This
is
backfilling
a
gap
that
they
have
already
created
by
serving
people
to
date.
So.
X
A
A
M
Thanks
chair-
and
it
is
it's
definitely
confusing,
especially
with
the
partnership
that
we've
had
with
the
state
with
the
county.
All
funds
spent
to
date
are
the
county
and
the
state
so
not
City
funds.
Only
City
funds
that
have
been
spent
that
have
been
committed
are
have
been
through
the
council,
so
these
would
be
additional
to
then
cover
those
who
are
still
receiving
benefits.
A
M
With
partnership
with
the
state
having
to
kind
of
make
that
forecast
to
say
all
right,
we
have
to
close
all
the
other
money
is
closing.
We
have
to
basically
say
Salt,
Lake
City,
if
you'd
like
to
give
us
2
million
we'll
serve
those
residents
and
we'll
set
that
aside,
we'll
put
that
into
our
calculation,
and
we
asked
we
said
what
can
we
put
in
more
and
they
said
we're
only
going
to
be
able
to
budget,
because
we
have
to
then
actually
exit
and
finish
off
this
program.
A
A
N
Yeah
and
I
I
do
think
Eric.
Is
that
right,
okay,
help
me
because
I
think
you
said
it
first,
the
state
had
already
helped
these
renters,
which
would
be
great,
be
fine,
and
then
this
would
help
cover
that
cost.
Is
that
correct,
or
is
it
that
they
have
all
these
applications
and
it
would
allow
them
to
fund
those
applications.
J
Sorry,
if
I
may
add
an
Mary,
Beth
and
Tony
can
confirm
this,
that
there
actually
isn't
a
contract
executed
until
after
city
council
approval.
So.
A
J
I
I
defer
to
Mary
Beth,
whether
I
don't
know
if
we
can
execute
a
contract
based
on
a
straw
poll.
The.
W
H
A
Council
members
I
would
like
this
to
go
as
fast
as
possible,
so
the
instruction
I
guess
would
be
whatever
the
quickest
thing
to
do
to
get
that
money
out
the
door.
Let's
do
it
and
so
I
guess
in
that
I'm
saying
I
would
support
this
two
million
dollars
and
understand
and
if
the
state
can
only
take
two
million
dollars
and
the
other
two
million
dollars
going
to
the
other
services
doesn't
seem
like
a
bad
idea
to
me.
K
A
We
have
a
public
hearing
scheduled
on
this
tonight,
but
where
the
plan
was
to
continue
that
because
there's
some
other
items
that
may
be
related
to
other
discussions
that
are
happening,
that
we
would
want
to
add
into
this.
Rather
than
wait
for
budget
amendment
number
six
or
the
general
budget,
we're
not
allowed
to
adopt
part
of
it
and
then
continue.
K
K
N
On
the
other
housing
assistance
programs
that
the
other
part
of
this
money
would
go
to
is
that
the
batch
of
programs
that
the
council
hasn't
been
totally
briefed
on,
yet
it
would
be
putting
two
million
more
into
those
programs.
Is
that
right.
J
Yes,
we
would
need
to
come
back
if
the
council
is
interested
in
that
route.
We
could
definitely
come
back
with
a
more
narrow
proposals,
so
the
council
is
clearly
aware
of
what
those
funds
would
be
used
for
and
how
they
would
be
approved.
They
would
I'll
defer
to
Tony,
but
I
think
obviously,
they'd
have
to
fit
into
the
e-wrap
program
parameters
right,
Tony,
yep,
exactly.
N
Okay,
so
they
would
so
it
then
there's
already
quite
a
bit
of
money
there
that
use
that
has
been
handled
in
the
account
numbers
that
you
refer
to
Mary
Beth,
the
grant
funding
stuff.
So
this
would
be,
in
addition,
would
it
be
appropriated
to
those
grand
accounts
or
somewhere
else?
If
we
don't
have
to
talk
about
that
now,
let's
talk
about
that
later.
Okay,.
C
A
A
N
Backlog
of
rental
assistance.
A
A
H
Mr
chair,
yeah,
I,
would
like
to
you
know
bring
about
this
to
this
Council
Council
added
item
for
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
code
enforcement.
That
will
pay
for
two.
You
know,
which
is
the
guess
from
our
side
of
of
the
aisle
for
two
code
enforcement:
additional
code
enforcement
people
for
the
city.
H
We
have
learned
quite
a
bit
through
the
discussion
through
the
discussion
of
adus,
but
not
only
on
adus,
about
the
lack
of
or
the
poor
code
enforcement
that
we
we
have
and
I
think
adding
two
more
code
enforcement
people
to
our
city
will
make
will
make
a
big
difference.
So
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
two
code
enforcement
people
so.
C
H
You
just
told
me
that
we
can
do
whatever
we
want
to
like
literally
one
minute
ago.
H
No,
no
isn't
very
much
in
response
of
the
feedback
that
we
have
done,
and
waiting
waiting
means
a
lot
of
time
for
the
implementation
we
still
discuss,
even
today
about
things
that
were
approved
in
last
budget
that
have
not
been
implemented
by
the
administration.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
this
is
a
priority
of
this
board
of
this
Council.
The
code
enforcement
has
been
the
main
issue
that
I
think
that
the
overwhelming
issue
is
the
code.
Enforcement
is
not
quite
funded
correctly.
C
I,
just
you
if
I
may
I,
everyone
here
knows
how
I
feel
about
budget
amendments
and
I
think
that
adding
ftes
is
fine.
I
feel
good
about
adding
you
know
looking
at
the
budget
when
we're
in
regular
budget
cycle
and
looking
at
what
is
proposed
and
what
we
need
and
waiting
for
that
regular
budget
cycle.
That's
just
a
philosophical
thing
for
me
generally
as
budget
amendments
ago
and.
A
I'll
I'll
add
it
to
this
I
I
agree
that
in
typically
I
would
like
to
do
that.
I
think.
The
reason
why
this
feels
urgent
to
me
now
is
because
of
the
Adu
amendments
which
there's
a
strong
feeling
from
many
people
in
the
public
that
that
will
increase
code
enforcement
needs
response
needs
and
so
doing
it
not
waiting
until
the
general
budget.
There
would
be
a
lag,
and
this
would
decrease
the
lag
between
if
it's
true,
that
the
ad
ordinance
may
increase
those
those
needs
for
code
enforcement.
A
I'll
also
add
that
that's
the
thing
I
was
alluding
to
at
least
one
of
them
as
to
why
we
are
going
to
we're
our
intent.
The
intent
is
to
hold
open
the
public
hearing
tonight
because,
since
it's
not
listed
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
since
it's
not
listed
here,
we
need
to
have
another
public
hearing
date
so
that
the
public
it
can
be
listed
on
a
piece
of
paper
that
the
public
can
read
and
then
come
to
comment
on.
So
so
we
could
not
adopt
that
one.
C
I,
don't
disagree
that
changing
the
Adu
ordinance
I
don't
disagree
that
we
may
need
more
compliance
officers
for
a
number
of
different
reasons.
I
just
don't
know
if
we
change
the
ordinance,
even
if,
like
we
adopted
a
new
ordinance
today,
is
somebody
going
to
build
an
Adu
within
the
next
month.
C
A
It
probably
isn't
that
different
from
the
number
of
days
it
takes
for
staff
to
like
post
and
hire
and
train
a
new
person,
so
I
think
both
of
those
things
take
some
time
and
I
I
would
rather
do
them.
The
my
other.
The
other
reason
why
I
I
think
that
is,
is
because
I
think,
because
we're
having
this
discussion
about
adus
right
now
we're
all
intent
on
adding
capacity
to
that
and
I.
H
H
This
city
doesn't
we
could
do
better
on
compliance
so,
regardless
of
if
we
change
or
anything
on
adus,
we
need
to
do
this
and
I
think
it
makes
the
argument
even
stronger
about
the
commitment
from
this
board
from
this
console
about
tackling
the
compliance
issue
that
everybody
agrees
with
even
people
whatever
we
are
on
the
Adu
plays
I.
Think
the
compliance
issue
is
a
very
generic
agreement.
Councilman.
K
Dugan
Mr
chair
I'm,
just
saying
I'm
open
to
the
idea
of
adding
councilmember
police
recommendation
to
have
a
compliance
line
on
the
budget.
Amendment
number
five
is
that
and
and
that's
what
how
I'm
gathering
this,
but
we
need
to
put
that
on
the
Staffing
document,
so
we
can
have
it
in
the
public
eye,
so
we
can
discuss
it
at
the
Public's.
A
K
H
I
I
will
I
would
suggested
to
for
this
concert
to
a
straw
bullet,
and
then
you
said
that
we
need
to
close
this
very
soon.
This.
H
A
To
do
a
straw
poll
there's
a
difference
between
because
we're
going
to
discuss
budget
man
number
five
next
week
again
so
I
I,
don't
know
that
I
I
don't
know
that.
There's
a
difference
right.
K
Z
Just
that
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
first
part
of
this.
So
I.
H
Z
Z
But
I
don't
want
to
like
we're
about
to
have
a
very
big
Adu
discussion
and
compliance
is
part
of
that
and
I
don't
want
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
for
either
of
us
to
be
holding
that
over
the
Adu
discussion,
and
so,
unless
there's
a
reason
for
us
to
do
that
like
right
now,
as
opposed
to
during
the
normal
budget
process,
I
think
everybody's
in
agreement
that
we
want
to
have
more
compliance
so
but
I
think
that
we
should
have
the
Adu
discussion
and
not
have
this
hanging
over
the
head.
Z
A
Z
Of
right
now,
like
is
there
a
reason
why
we
need
to
beef
up
compliance
from
March
to
May
when
we're
all
in
agreement
that
we
need
to
beef
up
compliance
and
when,
when
compliance
is
a
big
part
of
the
Adu
discussion
that
we're
going
to
have
and
that
we
don't
know
quite
where
that's
going
to
go
at
least
I,
don't
I
don't
either
I
would
prefer
to
not
add
to
the
pressure
of
that
discussion.
B
L
That
refrain
has
been
so
consistent
from
so
many
constituents
that
our
immediate
consideration
of
them,
while
we
have
this
budget
opening,
is
demonstrating
that
we
are
hearing
constituents
and
responding
to
them.
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
it,
but
that
is
that
appears
to
be
the
justification
for
why
we
would
do
it
now.
Z
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
really
urgent
needs
right
now,
and
we
still
go
through
the
normal
budget
process
unless
there's
a
reason
why
something
can't
wait
like
Mr.
H
Chair
right,
I
I
will
say
that
this
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
many
emails
you've
gotten,
but
I
gotten
a
lot
of
emails,
and
most
of
them
are
saying
compliance
is
a
big
problem
and
I
think,
regardless
of
the
Adu,
if
we
change
it
or
not,
this
is
listening
to
this.
This
is
actually
responding
to
that
concern,
pushing
it
away.
When
we
are
talking
about
it.
H
You
know
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
budget
it
and
not
showing
the
urgency
on
this
matter
is
what
I'm
trying
to
answer
to
this,
regardless
of
how
this
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
drawing
cost
on
the
Adu.
This
is
beyond
that.
I
think
there
is
a.
There
is
a
hole
there
that
we
need
to
answer,
and
you
know
regardless,
if
changes
or
not
and
I,
think
there
is
urgency
and
I
also
want
to
remember
that
council
members
don't
want
to
make
changes
right
now
on
budget
amendment
suggested
making
marginal
amendments.
H
A
I'm
gonna
ask
that
we
move
on
for
today,
and
we
can
discuss
this
again
next
week.
I
think
having
a
straw
poll
right
now
would
probably
not
be
I.
Think
council
members
need
a
little
more
time
to
sit
with
the
idea
before
we
ask
them
to
straw
poll.
So
if
that's
all
right
with
you
I
think
we
should
wait
until
next
week
to
pick
up
this
discussion
again.
A
It
is
5
17.,
so
I
would
propose
that
we
end
this
agenda
item
now
and
pick
up
the
rest
of
the
list
next
week
on
the
14th.
Is
that
all
right
with
everybody?
Okay,
thank
you?
A
Does
anyone
need
an
additional
break
or
should
we
okay,
a
short
break?
Three
five
minutes:
five
minute
bathroom
break
ready
to
get
started.
We
are
back
to
agenda
item
number
three,
which
we
skipped,
that
is
a
rezone
and
master
plan
Amendment
at
865,
South,
500
East
at
the
table.
We
have
Brian
Fulmer,
Council
policy.
Analyst
Michael
McNamee
is
with
us
virtually
Nick
Norris
planning,
director
and
Kelsey.
Lindquist
are
also
here
as
well
and
I.
Believe
the
applicant
is
also
here,
go
ahead,
Brian
with
an
introduction.
AB
Thank
you
Mr
chair.
This
is
a
proposal
to
amend
the
zoning
map
for
the
parcel
at
865
South
500
East
from
its
current
rmf-30
zoning
designation
to
CN
or
neighborhood
commercial
The
Proposal
would
also
amend
the
Central
Community
master
plan.
Future
land
use
map
from
low
density
residential
to
Neighborhood
commercial.
AB
AC
The
subject:
property
is
located
just
north
of
the
intersection
at
500
East
and
900
South
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
It
is
currently
zoned,
RMF,
30
or
low
density.
Multi-Family
residential
district.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
amend
the
zoning
map
so
that
this
property
would
be
located
in
the
CN
or
neighborhood
commercial.
AC
as
there
are
no
permits
or
other
City
approvals
that
demonstrate
any
other
use
because
of
the
building
status
as
a
contributing
structure,
demolition
or
exterior
modifications
would
need
to
be
approved
via
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
by
planning
staff
or
the
Historic
Landmark
Commission.
The
proposed
rezone
would
not
impact
the
building's
contributing
status
next
slide.
Please.
AC
This
property
is
situated
on
a
block
of
500
East
that
is
primarily
defined
by
residential
uses.
Generally
single
and
two-family
dwellings
and
small
multi-family
buildings,
Liberty
Park,
is
located
within
close
proximity
directly
to
the
West
is
a
70
unit
apartment
building,
which
is
the
largest
structure
in
the
immediate
area.
AC
The
two
properties
to
the
South
contain
a
restaurant
and
a
butcher
shop.
These
properties
plus
a
third
property
on
900
South
that
is
used
as
a
dwelling
or
Zone
CN.
So
the
proposed
rezone
would
expand
the
footprint
of
the
sand
Zone
and
extend
it
to
the
interior
of
the
block
on
500
East
in
general
properties
along
the
900
South
Corridor
are
Zone
CN
RB,
a
residential
business
district
or
RMF
30.
AC
AC
AC
Rmf-30
and
CN
differ
primarily
in
the
types
of
uses
permitted
in
each
district.
Rmf-30
allows
for
single
two
and
multi-family
dwellings,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
lot.
It
does
not
allow
for
commercial
uses,
although
it
does
permit
non-residential
uses
that
are
incidental
to
residential
neighborhoods
such
as
Community,
Gardens,
daycares
or
parks.
AC
AC
AC
AC
Remapping
the
property
to
CN
would
introduce
landscape
buffering
requirements,
because
the
neighboring
properties
to
the
north
and
east
are
zoned
for
residential.
A
seven
foot
Landscaping
buffer
is
required
when
a
budding,
a
residential
district
and
parking
lot
perimeter
Landscaping
is
required
when
the
parking
is
located
within
20
feet
of
a
lot
line
or
in
a
required
yard.
AC
AC
A
number
of
adopted,
City
plans
and
policies
are
applicable
to
the
proposed
projects.
Plant
Salt
Lake
is
the
city-wide
master
plan
and
this
property
is
located
in
the
Central
Community
neighborhood
plan
area
because
of
the
property's
location
in
a
local
historic
district.
The
city's
preservation
plan
also
applies
and
because
the
proposal
would
involve
replacing
a
housing
unit
with
a
non-residential
use.
The
city's
housing
plan
growing
SLC
is
applicable
as
well.
In
general,
the
proposed
rezone
is
not
supported
by
the
applicable
plans
and
policy.
Excuse
me
applicable
plans
and
policies.
AC
AC
Several
specific
goals
and
initiatives
in
growing
SLC
are
not
supportive
of
the
proposed
amendment.
Plant
Salt
Lake
is
more
mixed,
with
some
guiding
principles
and
initiatives
in
the
neighborhood's
Transportation
mobility
and
economy
chapters
being
in
support
of
The
Proposal
all
principles
and
initiatives
in
the
housing
and
Parks
and
Recreation
chapters
were
not
supportive.
AC
AC
Because
this
application
involves
a
zoning
change
that
would
permit
non-residential
use
of
land,
it
is
subject
to
the
city's
housing
loss
mitigation
ordinance
under
the
ordinance.
There
are
three
potential
options
to
mitigate
the
loss
of
existing
housing
units.
One
is
to
build
replacement
housing.
The
second
is
to
pay
a
fee
based
on
the
difference
between
housing,
value
and
replacement
cost,
and
the
third
is
to
pay
a
flat
fee
if
the
housing
units
are
deteriorated,
these
options
were
explored
with
the
applicant
and
paying
a
fee
based
on
the
difference
between
housing,
value
and
replacement.
AC
AC
Next
slide.
Please
staff
has
received
five
emails
and
discussed
this
application
over
the
phone
with
several
people.
As
the
data,
this
briefing
comments
received
were
generally
mixed
between
supporting
the
proposal
and
expressing
concerns,
elements
and
supported
the
application
indicated.
They
believed
a
new
commercial
business
would
help
support
the
walkability
and
vibrancy
of
the
neighborhood.
Those
expressing
apprehension
were
generally
concerned
with
the
impact
on
on-street
parking
privacy
and
noise,
impacting
the
Abundant
residential
area,
as
well
as
protecting
the
historic
Integrity
of
the
building.
Next
slide.
AC
G
AC
A
I'm
told
the
applicant
may
have
some
additional
information
that
they'd
like
to
share
prior
to
our
discussion.
Is
that
true,
you
want
to
come
up
to
the
table
and
for
our
policy
you
have
five
minutes
to
address
the
council
either
way.
Thank.
AD
You
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
time
my
name
is
Rick
service
I'm,
the
owner
of.
AD
Okay,
your
phones
aren't
great.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Rick
service
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
property,
I've
owned
the
property,
maybe
10
years,
something
like
that
when
I
bought
it,
it
was
the
old.
If
you
can,
anyone
can
remember
there's
that
blue
dilapidated
gas
station,
that
was
on
the
corner,
and
then
there
was
the
there.
Was
this
house
and
there
there's
the
house
to
the
north
on
900
on
to
East
I'm,
sorry
on
900
South
I
bought
all
three
of
those
Parcels
the
corner.
AD
We
took
the
old
gas
station
and
turned
into
tradition,
restaurant
and
then
on
going
east
on
900
South
took
the
old
old
house
that
someone
did
live
in
and
turn
it
into
beltex
Meats,
so
I've
wanted
to
I
feel
like
we
did
a
really
good
job
on
those
two
parcels
and
I
really
just
wanted
to
fix
the
other
parcel
up
similar
I
my
opinion.
AD
It
balances
off
the
corner,
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
too,
but
I
I
think
that
it
will
add
to
the
walkability
it'll,
add
to
Commerce
it'll,
I,
just
think,
it'll,
add
and
truthfully.
It
gives
me
a
chance
really
to
fix
up
the
building.
Now,
obviously,
I
could
fix
up
the
building,
even
if
this
didn't
happen,
but
you
know
it
makes
it
a
a
chance
for
me
to
take
the
building
and
turn
it
into
something.
You
know
that
it's
not
I
think
you'll
be
turning
into
something
cool.
A
Council
members
discussion,
Mr
service-
you
and
I
have
just
talked
about
this
before
and
one
of
the
concerns
that
was
brought
up
in
in
Michael's
presentation.
I
would
love
to
do.
We
have
them.
AD
A
G
AD
There
are
some
slides
because
one
one
hurdle
go
ahead:
okay,
I'm!
Sorry,
thank
you.
One
hurdle
that
I
had
what's
been.
I
was
okay
yeah,
one
hurdle
that
I
had
was
just.
We
were
taking
a
residential
component
out
of
the
city
by
making
that
commercial
unit,
and
so
with
the
with
the
New
Adu
ordinances
we
feel
like
we
can
build
an
Adu
in
the
back.
AD
So
a
separate
unit
in
the
back
to
house
someone
that
will
equal
out
the
residence
in
the
in
the
community
and
I
think
I
have
some
slides
just
showing
some
temporary
drawings
that
that
we
drew
I'm,
not
sure.
AD
Sent
them
to
Michael,
but
maybe
thank
you,
Scott,
okay,
yeah,
okay,
that's
the
first
one.
It
says
Ariel
and
you
can
see
the
the
existing
home
and
then
there's
a
new
home
in
the
back.
There
is
space
for
the
home
in
the
back.
M
AE
If
I
may,
if
the
council
is
interested
in
the
edition
of
an
Adu
in
conjunction
with
the
rezone
of
this
property,
that
would
trigger
the
buffer
yard
requirement
of
seven
feet
and
accessory
structures
are
not
permitted
to
be
located
within
the
buffer
yard.
So
a
development
agreement
would
be
required
to
eliminate
that
requirement
of
a
buffer
yard.
If
the
council
is
interested
in
exploring
the
Adu
option.
Oh.
A
Even
though
an
Adu
would
be
allowed,
that
would
be
within
three
feet
of
a
side
yard
setback
in
the
proposed
ordinance,
because
this
is
a
commercial
adjacent
to
a
residential,
even
though
it's
multi-family
residential
that
setback
reduction
would
be
eliminated
because
the
buffer
would
take
precedence
over
the
base.
Setback.
In
my
understanding
that
Nick's.
AE
A
And
just
to
be
clear,
this
would
not
be
allowed
right
now.
If
we
do
not
adopt
the
ordinance,
you
cannot
put
an
Adu
on
a
commercial
use.
Is
that
am
I
understand?
That's.
A
Not
adopt
the
80
ordinance,
the
Adu
would
not
be
allowed.
This
is
only
something
that
could
be
allowed
under
the
proposed
ordinance,
which
is
oh,
that's,
really
interesting.
I
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
have
added
requirements
on
an
Adu
that,
if
we're
allowing
something
when
a
single
family
house
abuts
another
single-family
house
for
an
Adu
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
would
maybe
maybe
I'm
just
need
to
I'm
thinking
this
out
loud.
AE
I,
don't
think
we
anticipated
the
Adu
triggering
a
buffer
yard
for
commercial
properties
and
I
think
there
would
be
a
handful.
This
wouldn't
be
every
commercial
property
right
because
because
it's
just
the
ones
that
are
but
the
residential
uses-
and
since
this
likely
would
be
a
change
of
use
to
a
commercial
use
that
buffer
yard
interesting
be
triggered
with
an
ad
in.
N
AD
It
is
not
a
city,
it's
it's
yeah,
it's
it's!
A
private
Alleyway
and
you
know
just
an
interesting
side.
Note
is
when
I
first
purchased
the
property
I
wanted
to
try
to
open
up
that
Alleyway,
because
I
thought
it
would
make
more
accessibility
there,
but
there
the
neighbor
and
property
has
blocked
it
off
for
so
long.
I.
AE
If
I
may
and
hopefully
I'm
not
overstepping
Michael
I
can't
go.
Oh
I
can't
see
you,
okay,
you're,
just
in
a
small
Corner,
this
property,
a
butts
RMF
30
on
on
two
sides,
and
that
excludes
the
alley.
So
it
abuts
it
to
the
east.
There's
a
small
lot
517
and
it
also
abuts
RMF
30
to
the
north.
A
AD
900
South,
it
is
kind
of
the
story
that
that
goes
with.
That
is
a
long
time
ago.
The
people
that
owned
my
house,
apparently
they
got
someone
in
the
household-
got
sick.
They
had
medical
bills,
they
had
to
pay
them.
They
were
good
friends
with
the
people
that
own
517,
so
five
they
sold
517
the
back
part
of
the
of
the
property
to
pay
off
their
medical
bills.
Now
that
wouldn't
be
a
legal
purchase
today,
but
you
know
50
years
ago,
it
probably
was.
A
Okay,
I
I'm
I
like
the
idea
of
adding
the
Adu
so
that
we're
not
losing
a
unit
of
housing
in
our
city.
I
also
personally
think
that
neighborhood
commercial
is
something
that
our
neighborhoods
benefit
from
and
I.
A
Think
tradition
is
a
great
example
of
a
neighborhood
business
that
I
love
going
to
when
I
can
afford
it
and
I
think
it's
a
great
so
I
if
the
Adu
issue
can
be
resolved
and
we
can
at
maintain
that
additional
unit
of
housing
I
like
the
idea
of
of
this
request,
but
I'll
just
say
that
and
we
have
a
public
hearing.
So
additional
public
comment
any
other
thoughts.
A
All
right,
so
that
brings
us
to
item
number
four
item.
Number
four
is
a
follow-up
discussion
on
our
accessory
dwelling
unit
text.
Amendment
I
think
we
have
pretty
much
the
same
crew
at
the
table:
Brian
Fulmer
Council
policy,
analyst
Michael
McNamee,
who
is
online
Nick,
Norris
planning,
director
and
Kelsey
Lindquist
planning
manager
and
the
mayor
is
here
as
well.
A
Do
we
go
to
the
mayor
first
or
Brian
mayor
go
ahead
mayor?
Whichever
way
you
would
like
to
do
it?
Okay,.
AG
House
visiting
just
a
minute,
I
know
that
there's
been
a
Nation
about
this
ordinance
update
proposal
and
I
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
share
with
you
which
I
I
did
share
with
chair
and
vice
chair
in
their
meeting.
The
last
time
we
visited
that
I
am
not
in
support
of
removing
the
owner
occupancy
on
the
residential
components.
AG
Reason
being
that
the
updates
that
I
I,
hope
will
be
passed
that
are
included
in
here
are
I
believe
sufficient
for
us
to
move
forward.
Both
the
access
for
people
to
build
adus
in
their
properties
and
use
their
Equity
to
create
new
streams
of
Revenue
and
the
number
of
Adu
units
in
the
city,
but
I
believe
that
by
adding
in
or
rather
removing
the
owner
occupancy
requirement
on
the
residential
side.
AG
Incentivizes
corporate
investment
in
our
neighborhoods
and
actually
disincentivizes
the
wealth
building
tool
that
this
Adu
and
the
improvements
in
it
would
otherwise
be
I.
Think
in
some
ways,
it's
actually
antithetic
to
thriving
in
place,
which
is
contemplating
ways
that
we
can
increase
wealth,
building
and
Community
stability
in
the
neighborhoods
and
the
residents
that
are
already
here
and
when
you
make
it
easier
for
a
corporate
entity
and
a
corporate
investor
to
buy
that
house
in
that
neighborhood
and
turn
it
into
two
for-profit
residential
units
that
we
lose
the
neighborhood
stability.
AG
That
would
otherwise
be
easier
to
achieve
with
the
Adu
ordinance.
So
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
you
to
accept
what
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
with
regard
to
the
owner
occupancy
component,
which
is
also
what
the
planning
division
forwarded
and
I
believe
what
our
residents
want
to
see
left
in
place,
the
rest
of
it
I'm,
leaving
it
up
to
you.
But
I
get
really
appreciate
you
giving
me
a
moment.
Given
the
changes
in
the
conversation
around
this
proposal
to
just
have
two
cents,
I
appreciate
it
very
much
Brian.
A
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
there
are
in
the
staff
report
several
a
list
of
several
ideas.
I
understand
there
may
be
some
new
ideas
that
have
come.
Most
of
them
relate
to
the
owner
occupancy
requirement,
but
not
all
can
I
just
ask
some
clarifying
questions.
First,
before
we
jump
into
these
discussions,
the
owner
occupancy
requirement
in
the
current
proposal
is
proposed
to
be
removed
for
commercial.
So,
for
instance,
this
project
we
just
looked
at
where
it's
a
commercial
say
we
have.
That
was
a
proof.
A
AF
AF
K
AF
And
then
so
let
me
let
me
maybe
give
some
context
for
why
that
is
so.
If
somebody
is
building
a
duplex,
it's
already
inherently
could
be
both
sides-
rental
right
when
they
add
an
Adu,
there's
suddenly
three
units
on
it.
So
then
technically
it
would
qualify
under.
It
would
be
very
similar
to
one
of
our
multi-family
definitions,
which
is
three
units
or
more
on
a
property.
So
that's
kind
of
why
we
landed
where
we
did,
with
those
exceptions
to
the
owner
occupancy,
but.
A
So
I
guess
the
question
is:
why
If,
instead
of
building
a
duplex
I'm
innocent
in
a
multi-family,
Zone
and
I,
choose
to
add
an
Adu
to
a
single
family
house,
because
maybe
the
geometry
fits
better.
In
that
case,
I'm
still
required
to
maintain
the
owner
occupancy
requirement,
even
though
I
could
go
to
a
theoretically
more
intense
use,
which
is
a
duplex
rather
than
a
single
family
house
with
an
Adu
so
part.
AF
Of
that
is
that
because
duplexes
multi-family
things
like
that
have
different
minimum
lot
areas
and
density
requirements,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
if
somebody
has
a
big
enough
property
to
be
able
to
even
in
the
new
RMF
30
that
goes
into
effect
in
April,
if
they
have
enough
property
to
do
that,
then
that
policy
that's
been
adopted
is
already
allowing
for
a
full
rental
understanding
that
that's
a
possibility
and
a
reality
right.
The
Adu
is
a
little
bit
different
because
we're
not
requiring
the
increase
in
lot
area
for
that
additional
unit.
K
So
I
don't
think
I'm
following
just
make.
It
make
sure
I
understand
this,
so
whatever
zoning
you're
in,
if
you
have
a
single
family
home
on
that
zoning,
lot,
you're
required
to
be
owner
occupancy.
If
you
want
to
have
an
Adu
and
the
Adu
and
the
Zone,
the
the
lot
coverage
still
has
to
maintain,
within
whatever
the
zoning
requirements
are.
Okay,
so
any
single
family
home
on
any
type
of
lot
on
occupancy
for
an
Adu.
G
AF
Let
me
try
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
further.
So
if
you
have
say
you're
in
a
Zone
where
duplexes
are
allowed
and
you
need
6
000
square
feet
for
a
duplex,
but
you
have
a
property
that
only
has
of
land.
But
you
don't
your.
Your
lot
is
only
five
thousand
square
feet.
You
can't
build
a
duplex,
but
you
can
add
an
Adu
to
that,
and
that
is
because
we
don't
require
additional
land
area
for
an
Adu
where
we
do
require
additional
land
area
for
additional
units.
AF
K
And
just
just
to
take
your
lessons
that
you
gave
me
when
you
sent
that
email
out,
so
it
still
has
to
require
the
lot
coverage
still
is
enforced
for
the
Adu,
but
not
the
lot
density.
The
lot
size
in.
A
But
if
there's
a
single
family
home
in
a
multi-family
Zone-
and
the
lot
is
large
enough
to
accommodate
a
duplex
and
they
choose
not
to
say
it's
like
a
large
house
in
the
middle
of
the
lot-
they
choose
not
to
tear
that
down.
Instead
maintain
that
unit
but
add
an
Adu
in
the
back
according
to
Adu
ordinance,
because
they
didn't
turn
that
primary
dwelling
into
a
duplex,
even
though
they
could
have
were
saying
they
must
remain,
retain
owner
occupancy.
M
AF
I
think
what
you're
what's
being
demonstrated
is
how
complex
applying
all
the
various
zoning
regulations
are,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
did
it
by
the
use
and
not
the
Zone,
was
for
that
very
reason,
because
it
becomes
very
complicated.
When
we
have
you
know
we
have
57
zoning
districts
and
trying
to
come
up
with
rules
that
apply
and
all
you
know,
maybe
48
of
those
allow
residential
uses.
AF
So
if,
if
we
try
to
come
up
with
rules
that
apply
to
48
different
zoning
districts
for
something
that
is
as
small
as
an
88,
so
it's
really
hard
another
goal
of
mine,
yes,
and
that
I
mean
that's
one
reason
why
our
zoning
code
is
complicated
and
why
we
have
things
like.
Sometimes
we
have
a
buffer
yard
setback,
and
sometimes
we
don't-
and
sometimes
we
have
all
these
other
regulations,
and
so
this
was
an
attempt
to
try
to
simplify
the
ad
regulations,
to
make
it
as
simple
as
possible
of
how
they
would
apply.
Z
My
questions
actually
for
Kimberly
and
the
attorney
that's
been
working
on
this
or
one
of
so
Kimberly.
Broadly
speaking,
what
are
the
legal
implications
of
removing
the
owner
occupancy
requirement
entirely?
What
does
that
mean
legally
in
Salt
Lake
City.
V
G
Z
Okay,
so
my
understanding
of
the
purpose
of
this
whole
Adu
discussion
from
the
beginning
was
to
remove
barriers
and
streamline
the
process,
make
it
easier
for
approving
adus,
the
biggest
of
which,
according
to
our
staff,
biggest
barrier
of
which
was
the
conditional
use
permitting
process.
Removing
owner
occupancy
to
me
feels
like
a
policy
shift
rather
than
streamlining.
Does
that?
Would
that
be
legally
accurate.
V
Z
AF
It's
the
same
process
that
this
went
through,
so
it
starts
with
the
required
Community
input
data
Gathering,
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Our
code
requires
a
minimum
of
45-day
public
input.
We
for
something
like
this
do
more
than
that
and
a
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
before,
ultimately
after
a
public
hearing
and
then
ultimately
a
city
council
decision,
but.
AE
Z
AE
Z
V
I
think
that
depends
on
what
you
think
happens
when
you
have
only
owner
occupied
properties
able
to
install
an
Adu
on
the
property,
so
I
think
you're.
Looking
at
weighing
policy
considerations
between
the
impact
on
a
neighborhood,
if
you
I
think,
arguably,
if
you
allow
any
property
to
add
an
Adu
regardless
of
occupancy,
then
there
are
more
potential
Aid
use
and
so
then
you're
balancing
the
number
of
those
potentially
to
use
against.
What
you
think
is
the
impact
on
the
community.
Z
Okay-
well
maybe
this
like
well
help,
because
my
concern
is:
it's
been
suggested
that
if
we
remove
our
own
occupancy
and
it
doesn't
produce
the
outcomes
that
we
want,
we
could
undo
it.
But
what
would
be
the
legal
implications
of
doing
something
like
that?
How
do
we
take
back
a
property
right
that
we've
given.
V
I,
don't
know
that
you,
like
necessarily
vest
in
in
a
Zone
like
so
when
you
buy
property.
If
the
zoning
says
one
thing
you
can
legally
do
whatever
you
want
with
that
property.
While
that
zone
is
in
force,
the
Zone
can
change
through
the
process,
and
if
you
don't
change
your
property,
you
become
legally
non-conforming,
and
so
you
could
maintain
the
use
that
was
legal
when
you
put
it
in
place
and
then
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Z
A
Z
Z
V
That
also
another
implicated
conversation
is
enforcement
against
short-term
rentals,
yeah
right
and
that's
a
concern
that
comes
up
with
adus
and
how
they'll
be
used.
So
if
you
are
concerned
about
how
the
adus
are
used,
civil
enforcement
is
very
difficult
to
do.
One
thing
that
we
have
thought
about
is
if
the
use
of
the
property
could
be
regulated
through
a
land
restrictive
covenant
agreement.
V
So
if
you
had
an
80
you
approved,
we
could
also,
as
a
city,
require
a
restrictive
covenant,
be
recorded
against
the
property
that
would
describe
how
the
Adu
can
be
used,
so
it
could
both
require
owner
occupancy.
It
could
also
require
a
Prohibition
on
short-term
rentals,
and
then
the
enforcement
could
be
an
action
by
the
city
or
you
could
actually
also
allow
as
a
separate
remedy
enforcement
by
Third
parties.
V
So
if
you
wanted
neighbors
or
someone
else
to
try
to
be
able
to
enforce
this,
to
sort
of
maintain
the
uses
in
their
neighborhood,
that
could
be
a
right
that
you
could
give
in
a
restricted,
Covenant
type
agreement.
V
AA
Katie
either
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
other
comment.
This
Katie
Lewis
the
City
attorney
another
comment
to
the
idea
of
the
restrictive
covenant,
and
that
is
that,
because
it's
a
contractual
agreement
between
the
person,
who's,
constructing
the
Adu
and
the
City,
you
could
also
add
a
provision
that
a
prevailing
party
who
enforces
the
restrictive
covenant
could
be
entitled
to
attorneys
fees.
So
that's
also
another
enforcement
tool
for
either
the
city
or
the
third
party
to
enforce,
on
whatever
conditions
the
city
put
in
either
or
both
owner
occupancy
and
a
Prohibition
on
short-term
rentals.
Z
A
AF
A
AF
They
have
to
describe
the
Adu,
so
that's
the
location,
the
size,
how
off
street
parking
is
allocated.
They
have
to
demonstrate.
They
would
include
compliance
with
all
of
the
Adu
regulations
and
any
other
regulations
that
are
required
in
the
code.
And
then
it's
recorded
against
the
title
of
the
property
of
the
Salt
Lake
County,
Recorders
and.
AA
AA
That
you
know
that
does
allow
neighbors
to
enforce
against
Neighbors
in
a
different
way
than
maybe
we
had
done
before,
but
it
also
creates
an
opportunity
for
for
people
to
enforce,
without
the
complete
complaint
based
code
enforcement
that
we
do
now
that,
as
you
all
council
members
have
discussed,
there's
some
dissatisfaction
with
so
attorneys
fees
and
the
third
party
enforcement
might
be
things
you
you
might
want
to
consider.
Mr.
H
Please
follow
up
to
that,
so
so
hypothetical,
so
don't
freak
out.
Let's
say
let's
say
this:
Council
decides
to
remove
the
condition
of
owner
occupied,
but
we
do
have
this
mechanism
to
enforce
that.
You
just
suggested
with
attorney
fees
and
the
you
know
neighbors
enforcing
on
the
short-term
rental.
Putting
that
allegedly
also
try
to
solve
the
problem
of
which
is
I.
H
AA
It's
a
great
question,
and
probably
one
for
you
all
to
explore,
because
there
is
a
difference
with
owner
occupancy
and
somebody
who
is
right
there
on
the
property.
Then
that
may
be
a
difference
from
a
corporation
that
is
operating
a
property
as
a
short-term
rental
and
builds
the
costs
of
those
types
of
attorney's
fees
cases
into
the
cost
of
doing
business.
So
there
may
be
a
different
business
case
when
it's
a
corporation
or
a
business.
Then
if
it's
an
individual
owner
who
lives
on
the
property.
H
AF
H
This
city
was
a
little
more
dense
until
that
point,
and
then
they
decided
to
go
backtrack
and
like
make
it
less
dense.
So
that
sort
of
proves
I
think
to
me
that
these
things
do
evolve,
and
you
know
these
things
can
go
back.
There
is
a
way
of
doing
this
back
and
I
think
it's
a
policy
question
regardless.
If
it
will
be
easy
or
not,
or
if
it
will
be
the
appetite
of
this
Council
or
not
the
tools
are
there
now
the
question
was
the:
will
the
units
be
grandfather
in
I?
H
Think
the
question
the
answer
to
that
is:
yes
right,
it's
hard
to
force
them
to
change,
something
that
they
already
built
now
something
that
I
have
a
question.
A
little
more
is
on
the
enforcement,
like
you
know,
I
think
it
was
mentioned
here
a
few
minutes
ago
that
it
was
very
hard
to
enforce
already,
as
it
is
right
now.
So
my
argument
is
and
part
of
this
keeping
something
that
we
can.
We
have
already
a
very
hard
time
enforcing.
It
seems
I
I'm
struggled
with
that
idea.
H
So
not
only
you
know,
not
only
with
with
this
exchange
of
questions
was
useful
to
me
to
to
understand
that.
Yes,
zoning
changes
and
we
have
done
up
and
down
many
times
before,
but
I
also
want
to
expand
a
little
more
on
on
this
enforcement
tools
that
we
have
that
we
are
really
not
enforcement
as
good
as
we
should,
or
we
could
for
whatever
reason.
H
H
You
know
with
code
enforcement
because
over
with
the
tools
that
we
have,
isn't
that
somewhat
true
am
I
making
sense
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
I'm
going
all
over
the
place,
but
I
I
heard
a
few
minutes
ago
that
some
of
the
code,
some
of
the
owner
occupancy
requirements
right
now,
are
very
hard
to
enforce.
V
Well,
it's
actually
short-term
rentals
are
really
hard
to
enforce
against,
because
state
law
doesn't
allow
you
to
use
advertisements
on
a
short-term
rental
website
as
the
sole
evidence
for
enforcing
against
a
short-term
rental.
So
we
can't
just
go
on
a
website,
search
up
places
and
then
show
up
and
try
to
force
against
them.
You
have
to
have
some
other
evidence
which
normally
probably
comes
down
to
like
an
affidavit
from
somebody
who
can
say
that
there
are
people
running
it
on
a
short-term
basis.
So,
for
example,
we
have
had
complaints.
V
Civil
enforcement
goes
the
door
the
tenant
opens
it
and
is
like
yeah
I've,
just
rented
this
for
three
days
there.
Then
we
have
some
evidence
right
and
even
then,
though,
the
businesses
that
run
short-term
rentals
might,
as
Katie
mentioned,
they
might
just
take
those
fees
I
like
as
part
of
the
cost
of
doing
business,
and
they
maybe
are
making
enough
money
that
they
don't
care
about
the
daily
fee
and
that's
our
tool
that
we
have
with
civil
enforcement.
V
So,
there's
a
couple
of
different
reasons
that
we
that
they're
difficult
to
enforce
against
one
other
tool
that
I
didn't
mention
that
I,
if
you
don't
mind
I'll
share,
is
we
don't
currently
have
enforcement
remedies
through
business
licensing
for
units
that
might
be
used
differently
than
how
they're
supposed
to
be?
V
So
if,
if
a
unit
is
being
used
as
a
short-term
rental,
now
there
is
not
a
remedy
of
enforcement
through
business
licensing,
it's
only
through
civil
enforcement,
and
so
one
idea
that
I've
also
heard
is,
if
we
created
new
Adu
licensing
fees,
that
there
might
be
a
way
to
use
those
to
encourage
compliance
as
well
with
whatever
the
conditions
are
that
you
set.
AI
V
A
So
I
think
it's
worth
taking
a
step
and
just
going
through
some
of
the
options
that
have
been
raised.
So
the
public
knows
these
we're
kind
of
talking
about
all
the
things
that
we've
raised,
but
I
don't
know
that
we've
stated
them
for
people
that
are
listening,
but
the
options
related
to
the
owner
architecture
are
listening
to
the
staff
report.
A
remove
the
requirement
altogether
be
the
option
to
require
construction
of
the
adus
to
be
owner
occupied
and
that
that
remains
for
a
period
of
one
year
with
an
option
and
I.
A
It
could
be
whatever
period
we
choose,
but
the
option
to
then
remove
that
restriction.
After
a
year
of
on
of
no
substantiated
zoning
or
civil
enforcement
complaints,
there's
an
option
that
which
could
be
combined
with
either
option
Air
B,
which
is
to
require
a
business
license
fee
to
offset
the
cost
of
enforcement
and
require
commitment
not
to
use
the
Adu
as
a
short-term
rental.
So
for
any
landlord
using
an
Adu
as
a
rental.
A
They
there
would
be
Adu,
as
any
rental
must
be
long
term,
because
we
would
not
allow
short-term,
but
doing
so
would
be
subject
to
cost
justification.
Of
course,
there's
two
fees
that
have
been
thrown
out
there,
a
thousand
dollars
a
year
as
I
think
a
round
number
or
twenty
four
hundred
dollars
a
year,
because
that's
about
two
hundred
dollars
a
month
allowing
owner-occupied
properties
to
have
that
fee
waived
and
that
fee
could
not
be
waived
by
the
good
landlord
program.
A
So
this
would
be
separate
than
the
typical
fee
that
rentals
are
being
charged,
and
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
charged
to
non-owner
occupied
but
could
be
waived.
The
item
D
is
a
sunset
clause
for
owner
occupancy
requirement
within
the
code,
so
saying
we'll
keep
the
owner
occupancy
requirement,
but
absent
Council
action
that
would
sunset
in
24
months,
so
the
council
would
have
two
years.
A
The
city
would
have
two
years
to
sort
of
see
what
happens
and
if
it's
bad,
then
the
council
would
have
to
take
action
in
order
to
or
sorry
yes,
no
I
guess
it
could
go
either
way
right.
We
remove
it
and
then
it
yeah.
No,
this
one
would
be
that
it
stays
and
then,
in
two
years
it
gets
removed.
Unless
the
council
says
no,
we
want
to
keep
it
and
then
let
me
just
get
through
the
last
one.
The
last
item
is
potential
ideas
that
may
be
related
to
owner
occupancy.
A
Reconsideration
are
a
couple
of
the
other
straw
polls
that,
for
some
council
members,
it
may
be
more
palatable
to
change
this
if
some
of
the
other
ones
are
reconsidered,
which
are
the
ones
that
may
have
been
brought
up.
Our
half
mile
within
the
designated
bike
lane
for
the
parking
and
then
removing
the
increase
from
a
thousand
feet
going
back
to
720
feet.
A
C
You
and
thanks
for
kind
of
orienting
us
to
what
we're
talking
about
here
with
some
of
these
options,
I
think
we
all
recognize
the
The
Not
So
elephant
in
the
room
that
we're
not,
but
is
that
this
requirement
of
owner
occupancy
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
some
of
my
thoughts
here.
I
want
to
start
with
option
C
and
the
the
business
license
fee.
C
One
of
the
things
that
I
keep
hearing
from
Council
Members,
as
we've
like
debated
this
in
different
areas-
is
that
any
particularly
as
it
relates
to
the
owner
occupant
requirement
is
that
this
creates
too
big
of
a
barrier
for
anyone
to
build
an
Adu.
C
C
I,
truly
like
the
idea
of
the
restrictive
covenants
right
and
sort
of
having
that
as
that
option
and
going
back
to
something
Katie
said
when
we
do
have
the
owner
occupant
requirement.
I
think
there
is
more
incentive
to
comply,
because
probably
a
lot
of
people
aren't
thinking.
Oh
I,
better,
like
save
a
way
for
those
attorneys
fee,
especially
if
we
add
in
the
attorney's
fees
right
but
better,
save
away
for
those
attorneys
fees
because
of
I'm
not
going
to
comply.
I!
Think
it's
different
than
that
right.
C
It
kind
of
creates
it's
a
deterrent
to
non-compliance.
That
I
I
think
is
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
keep
hearing
is
how
do
we
enforce
these
things?
Well,
it's
an
ordinance
that
we
could
enforce
these
things
right,
that
it's
there
and
there's
a
contract,
and
basically
it's
a
breach
of
contract
that
then
we
can
go
after
somebody
and
and
kind
of
make
them
get
into
compliance
in
one
way
or
another,
whereas
again
as
Katie
and
Kimberly
brought
up
if
it's
a
corporation
which
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
and
I
think.
C
This
is
why
this
owner
occupant
requirement
for
right
now
is
so
important
to
me
is
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
Corporations
come
in
and
buy
buy
properties
and-
and
they
probably
are
thinking
like
they
actually
are
the
ones
thinking
I
better,
put
away.
Attorney's
fees
into
my
bank
account
I
mean
they
have
that
as
a
business
right
and
so
I.
Just
those
are
some
thoughts
on
those
two
and
I
I.
Look
at
this
like
sun
setting
idea
or
the
and
I
just
think
to
myself.
C
C
and
oh,
it's
been
that
long-
how
time
flies,
but
when
we
passed
that
we
said,
let's
come
back
and
look
at
it.
We
required
planning
to
come
back
and
say:
Hey,
give
us
an
update
on
how
this
is
going,
because
we
we
know
this
is
going
to
evolve.
C
So,
instead
of
then
sort
of
in
this
roundabout
binding
a
future
Council,
which
is
what
I
think
that
kind
of
does
without
really
doing
it,
it
kind
of
does
we
could
actually
just
say:
hey
planning,
come
back
and
give
us
another
update
in
three
years,
and
then
we
can
decide
if
we
want
to
remove
this,
which
we
do
all
the
time
we
have
reported
and
requirements
for
every
Department
in
the
city
and
and
then
we're
not
like
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
which
is
what
we're
kind
of
what
I
think
that
that
Sunset
Clause
does
and
again
I
think
it
binds
a
future
Council,
so
I
mean
I,
I,
recognize
and
I've
had
lots
of
discussions
with
all
of
the
council
members
that
you
know
we
want
more
density.
C
C
But
in
this
case,
like
we've,
asked
them
to
go
through
this
very
complicated
situation,
a
very
complicated
ordinance,
very
complicated
zoning
and
say
what
are
your
best
ideas
for
making
this
ordinance
better
than
it
was
five
years
ago,
and
that's
what
that
I
I.
K
Ahead,
so
thank
you
very
much
over
the
weekend.
I
reread
all
the
comments
from
different
people,
kind
of
reviewed
and
walked
backwards
on
where
we
were
before
I
was
in
the
council
in
2018,
and
the
discussion
there
was
we
knew.
Adus
was
going
to
be
a
minor
player
in
housing.
We
knew
it
wasn't
going
to
be
the
Holy
Grail
on
housing.
K
We
knew
it
was
going
to
be
a
small
bit
there
so
and
we
we
stepped
into
it,
and
we
made
it
for
the
external
we
made
it
conditional
use,
not
permitted,
and
then
we
had
some
restrictions
there,
and
we
noticed
that
there
was
also
a
small
number
of
adus
built
and
and
now
we're
going
forward.
We
have
this
rush
to
build
more
affordable
housing
and
more
housing
across
the
board
and
more
density,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
initiatives
coming
down
the
pike.
A
lot.
K
A
lot
of
bigger
initiatives
coming
down
the
pike
and
I
still
look
at
this
Adu
as
a
small
sliver
of
that
housing
Edition
and
the
condition
the
the
complaints
I've
heard.
All
the
time
were,
the
conditional
use
is
expensive
and
timing,
timely
for
the
owner
and
it's
expensive
and
timely
for
the
Planning
Commission
and
100
of
them
are
approved.
K
So
we
went
back
to
drawing
board.
We
have
a
new
Amendment
here
and
it
removes
the
permitted
it
changes.
Excuse
me,
it
removes
the
conditional
and
makes
it
all
permitted
and
I
thought
that's
great,
but
there
was-
and
there
were
some
conditions
there
were
some
concerns
about
the
size
and
the
setbacks
and
everything
else,
but
and-
and
it
also
kept
the
owner
occupancy,
which
was
also
vitally
important,
because
we
everyone's
comment
was
owner.
K
Occupancy
was
the
number
one
comment,
and
then
there
was
other
comments
behind
that,
and
so,
when
I,
when
I
stepped
back
from
it
I
said.
Oh,
we
also
added
a
lot
more
zoning
areas
that
are
now
Adu
approved
so
that
the
whole
city
is
is
available
for
adus,
except
for
manufacturing
in
some
other
small
spaces
or
industrial
areas.
K
So
we've
we've
broadened
the
field
for
adus
and
I
and
I
step
back
and
say
so
for
the
concerns
for
the
single-family
zoned
areas,
I'm.
Looking
at
going.
Why
don't?
We
keep
what
we
have
it
really
we're
removing
the
permanent
side
or
excuse
me
we're
adding
the
permanent
side
keep
that
size.
We
can
look
at
see
how
it's
going
on
the
single
family
house
and
on
the
additional
sides,
the
commercial
use
areas,
the
multi-family
use
areas
allow
for
the
additional
size
allow
for
the
different
setbacks,
because
those
lots
are
also
predominantly
larger
in
scope.
K
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
can
legally
do
that,
but
that's
how
I'm
I'm
looking
at
this
I
I,
like
the
idea
that
it's
owner
occupied
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
underoccupied
side,
especially
for
the
single
family
homes.
And
then,
as
you
mentioned,
Nick
single
family
homes,
even
on
a
multi-family
lot,
would
have
to
be
owner
occupied,
which
I
didn't
understand
that
you
know
an
hour
or
two
ago.
So
I
appreciate
that
discussion.
So
I'm
I'm,
almost
looking
at
as
two
different
things,
the
single-family
residencies
keep
what
we
have.
K
A
K
Right
there
was
I
would
say:
owner
occupancy
was
one
of
the
was
one
of
the
main
topic,
but
whether
you
keep
it
or
not,
keep
it
was
the
topic.
Sorry,
yes,
I
apologize,
you're
right,
councilman,
Mr,.
H
Chair
so
thank
you,
I
I'm,
going
to
restate,
since
you
know
my
values
on
this
and
I.
This
and
I
shifted
through
the
process
and
I'm
constantly
shifting
and
the
only
times
I
didn't
engage.
It
was
because
there
was
some
sort
of
wall
on
this
discussion
right
and
I
we've
been
trying
and
I
think
this
proves
to
the
to
the
public
that
this
Council
has
been
debating.
This
actual
debating
this
trying
to
find
an
answer
to
questions
from
the
community.
H
To
me,
this
comes
back
to
housing
and
the
ability
of
Housing
and
to
me
the
emergency
that
we
have
in
our
city
as
far
as
housing
and
and
and
the
lack
thereof,
I
think
now,
when
we're
talking
about
Minor
playing
on
how
it'll
be
this
being
a
minor,
a
player
is
because
of
the
barriers
that
we
have
not
only
the
barriers
that
we
have
but
we're
adding
to
those
barriers
right
like
the
cost,
is
one
of
them
right.
So
I
also
want
to
reiterate
some
of
my
concerns
about
this
discussion.
H
Renters
and
many
of
the
people.
That
commented,
you
know
and
I
try
to
address
all
of
them
even
to
so
they
know
that
I
acknowledge
the
comment.
It
is
hard
sometimes
when
you
have
like
two
or
three
hundred
emails
in
a
couple
days,
but
the
you
know
this
wouldn't
affect
many
parts
of
our
city
as
much
as
other
parts
of
our
city.
It
is
a
fact
you
know
your
District
or
or
parts
of
your
District
are
to
like
78
80
percent
honorary
occupied.
H
You
know
much
like
you
know
sure
house,
parts
of
parts
of
the
district
70,
some
percent
80
parts
so
that
are
owner
occupied
areas
of
the
city
and
these
policy
changes
are
going
to
affect
least
the
least
amount
of
those
parts
of
town.
It
doesn't
mean
that
there
are
illegitimate
concerns.
There
are
legitimate
concerns.
The
parking
issues,
the
short-term
rentals,
the
absentee
landlords-
are
all
very
legitimate
issues
that
I
want
to
solve,
and
I
think
everybody
else
here
is
committed
to
solving,
but
I
think
we
are
changing.
H
We
are
trying
to
address
these
problems
through
zoning,
and
these
problems
are
no
zoning
problems.
Right
I
think
we
need
to
solve
those
problems
with
enforcement
with
some
other
tools
that
we
have
on
on
the
tool
on
the
on
the
toolbox.
So
I
I
think
that
our
scare,
our
main
main
scares,
are
you
know
if
I
want
to
summarize
some
of
you
and
I
might
be
missing.
Some
is
short-term
rentals,
yes,
I
agree.
H
We
are
very
limited
with
short-term
rentals
and
the
enforcement
of
such,
and
you
know,
maybe
there
is
something
there
that
we
need
to.
We
can
do
to
cut
it.
Many
of
the
complaints
from
the
neighbors
were
are
related
to
sound
parking
and
absentee
landlords
like
houses
that
look
like
crap
right.
We
need
to
enforce
our
code,
so
we
need
to
put
more
money
into
that
and
and
actually
be
fit
up.
H
So
many
of
the
concerns
I
keep
hearing
are
not
relating
to
the
Zone
they're
relating
to
the
effect
of
the
zone
and
the
effect
of
these
changes,
and
we
are
not
doing
a
good
job
at
that,
and
that
was
my.
What
I
tried
to
do
earlier
is
to
try
to
address
those
issues
before
this
conversation.
That's
what
I
wanted
to
add
those
two
people
into
and
I
think
this
Council
might
debate.
This
I
think
I'm
very
excited,
but
also
in
previous
conversations,
we,
it
was
said
the
market
created
this.
H
How
was
in
crisis
the
market
did
increase
this,
how
some
crisis
by
itself,
zoning
and
our
city
also
added
to
this
by
downsizing
our
zones.
So
we
are
creating
this
housing
market,
this
crisis
that
we
have
and
we
have
a
tool
here
that
could
help.
H
H
But
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
see
this
as
a
tool
to
create
gentle
density
in
all
parts
of
town,
including
including
in
areas
of
of
the
city
that
are
not
getting
any
density.
So
that's
what
I
stand
on
this
issue.
Mr.
L
There
are
so
many
places
to
start
right
now,
yeah,
so
I
would
like
to
reiterate:
I
I'm
one
of
the
people
who
the
last
public
comment
session
introduced
information
to
me
in
data
to
me
that
I
had
not
opened
myself
to
my
instinctive
place.
To
start
on.
This
is
that
adus
are
useful
for
families
who
need
income
streams,
to
stabilize
their
own
housing
situation
and
for
families
who
want
to
live
multi-generally
multi-generationally
either
caring
for
older
family
members
like
college
students.
Things
like
that.
L
However,
the
last
comment
session
allowed
me
to
see
that
that
was
a
very
personalized
view
into
this
topic
and
in
fact
we
have
a
study
that
demonstrated
that
we
have
a
housing
Supply
crisis,
not
just
for
the
deeply
affordable
that
we've
all
been
focusing
on,
but
for
people
living
at
80
percent,
Ami
to
125
Ami
and
so
diversifying
our
stock
and
accelerating.
That
is
something
where
adus
could
potentially
come
in
and
start
being
useful.
L
So
in
that
vein,
we
I
would
love
to
thank
councilmember
Pui
for
demonstrating.
We
are
not
keeping
up
with
growth,
and
that
is
a
Salt
Lake
City
tradition.
We
down
zoned
at
a
time
where
now
causes
us
to
have
less
naturally
afforded
occurring,
affordable
housing
than
other
areas.
We
don't
have
to
repeat
history's
mistakes,
and
it
is
possible
that
we
don't
have
to
repeat
the
mistakes
of
other
markets
who
have
gone
ahead
on
this
I
hear
what
council
member
Fowler
is
saying.
L
However,
we
could
argue
that
any
ordinance
is
binding,
binding
future
councils
and
therefore
we
shouldn't
pass
any
of
them
by
passing
an
ordinance
that
would
allow
us
to
move
forward.
Allow
the
staff
in
the
city
to
acclimate
to
the
things
that
we
know
will
work
for
us,
but
allow
us
the
full
power
of
the
tool
potentially.
Should
we
can
continue
to
experience
this
level
of
housing
deficit
given
criteria
that
we
could
set,
we
could
be
smarter.
L
We
could
set
criteria
that
help
us
understand
if
we
need
to
remove
the
owner
occupancy,
because
in
two
years,
I'm
hoping
that
we're
dealing
with
the
issues
that
come
before
us
in
two
years.
I
do
not
hope
we're
relitigating
the
things
that
we
relitigated
the
first
time
seven
years
ago,
by
the
time
it
gets
in
front
of
us,
we
could
save
staff
time.
We
could
move
forward.
If
you
think
our
enforcement
is
overworked,
you
should
see
our
permitting
program.
You
should
see
our
planners.
L
You
should
see
the
other
people
who
are
working
routinely
in
excess
of
60
hours
a
week
just
to
keep
up
with
our
basic
growth
trajectory.
We
could
be
smarter
than
the
ordinance
we
could
be,
the
creators
of
it
and
the
Shapers
of
it
and
offer
ourselves
the
full
power
of
the
tool
in
addition
to
the
full
power
of
protections
from
what
has
gone
wrong
in
other
markets.
L
I
would
prefer
to
see
us
do
that.
I
concede
council
member
Wharton's
issue,
which
he
very
generously
came
to
speak
to
me
about
in
his
own
personal
time
that
we
don't
have
Salt
Lake
City,
specific
data.
We
can
give
ourselves
the
lead
time
to
get
that
and
create
triggers.
We
could
put
a
trigger
in
there
that
says.
If
there's
not
enough
red
adus,
we
can't
we
will
not
remove
owner
occupancy.
L
We
can
do
that
and
we
can
not
cause
staff
to
have
to
spend
their
time
going
over
a
seven-year-old
issue
and
allow
our
city
to
move
forward
with
growth
trajectories.
If,
indeed,
in
two
years,
it's
proven
that
we've
been
able
to
enforce
we've
been
able
to
maintain
what
we
committed
to
maintaining
and
that
it
is
absolutely
relevant
for
us
if
it's
not
scrap
it,
but
let's,
please
be
a
little
efficient.
Let's,
let's
look
for
a
growth
trajectory
that
we
can
actually
get
ahead
of.
A
I
wanted
to
add
to
the
two
weeks
ago
we
heard
for
the
mid
point
update
on
the
new
five-year
housing
plan,
and
that
indicated
that
we
have
about
5500
lacking
units
that
are
30
below.
We
actually
have
a
surplus
of
30
to
50
and
50
to
80
Ami
units.
The
issue
is,
we
have
a
huge
lack
of
market
rate
units.
We
have
100
to
125
we're
missing.
A
2
000
units
over
125
were
missing
5493
units,
and
so
those
people
that
are
that
need
those
market
rate
housing
units
are
taking
over
the
the
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
at
the
30
to
80
Ami
level.
So
the
people
so
there's
a
huge
need
for
those,
so
adding
market
rate
housing
will
help
solve
our
housing
issue.
I,
don't
I
would
be
surprised
if
there's
anyone
up
here
that
thinks
we
have
enough
housing
in
our
city.
A
I
would
also
be
surprised
if
there's
anyone
up
here
that
knows
of
giant
swaths
of
land
that
are
undeveloped,
that
make
sense
for
us
to
build
roads
and
add
sewer
infrastructure
to
to
make
a
whole
bunch
more
we're
out
of
land
in
this
city
and
the
the
land
that
we
have.
This
ordinance
allows
us
to
unlock
the
land
that
is
currently
locked
up
in
backyards
that
are
doing
nothing
but
taking
water
and
I
understand
that
the
fee
idea
and
things
like
that
will
not
create
affordable
adus,
but
80s
are
already
very,
very
expensive.
A
Another
thing
we
should
discuss
is
Adu
incentives,
so
financing
or
pre
pre-designed
plan
pre-approved
plans
and
things
that
will
make
adus
less
expensive.
That's
a
a
different
discussion
that
we
need
to
have,
and
we
should
have,
because
that's
the
only
way
the
adus
will
ever
hit
any
level
of
affordability.
The
adus
being
rented
out
at
market
rate
still
helps
our
solve
our
housing
crisis
by
reducing
the
demand
on
those
more
naturally
occurring
older,
affordable
housing
units,
and
so
that's
where
I
think
adding
a
fee
to
those.
A
Yes,
that's
that's
making
it
more
expensive
for
those,
but
we
that's.
Okay,
because
we're
accepting
that
owner
non-owner
occupied
units
will
become
a
market
rate
unit.
They
will
not
be
an
affordable
unit
and
that's
already
the
case
unless
we
invest
our
dollars
into
that
which
we
should
do
in
a
different
program,
but
I
think
opening
up
this
tool
so
that
it
can
create
housing
at
all
levels,
and
we
know
that
it's
just
expensive
to
build
an
Adu,
you're,
building,
four
walls
and
a
roof
and
a
foundation.
That's
going
to
be
expensive.
A
So,
no
matter
what
absent
us
financing
it.
These
are
going
to
be
market
rate
units,
I,
think
adding
the
fee,
making
it
maybe
slightly
above
market
rate
still
hitting
whatever
the
market.
You
know
but
I
think
adding
that
fee
and
then
using
that
to
help
offset
our
enforcement
costs
solves
all
of
the
the
concerns
to
me,
but
I
know
it
doesn't
solve
everyone's
concerns.
Councilman
Fowler.
C
Thank
you
I
just
wanted
to.
If,
if
I
may
go
back
to
something
you
said,
councilmember
Bowie,
and
that's
that
this.
The
argument
about
you
know
certain
areas
having
a
high
home
ownership
percentage
and
that
this
is
taking
away.
The
the
owner-occupied
requirement
wouldn't
affect
those.
But
I
was
sitting
here.
Thinking
about
that
and
I
mean
I
rent.
C
You
have
the
potential
of
creating
an
incentive
for
people
to
sell
their
houses,
which
would
increase
potentially
again
the
renter
Market
at
a
much
higher
rate,
which
is
exactly
what
we
don't
want
to
do
philosophically
with
the
adus
and
then
I
think
that
the
I
had
another
comment
in
my
head.
But
it
was
really
snarky,
so
I'm
not
going
to
say
it,
but
not
not
I'm,
going
to
leave
it
there.
All.
E
And
I
think
you.
E
I
have
not
said
anything
and,
and
the
reason
why
I
have
not
said
anything
because
I'm
still
analyzing
and
I'm
still
hearing
my
peers
argument
and
I.
You
know
I
see
the
the
biggest
obstacle
obstacle
for
adus
and
the
reason
why
we
haven't
had
any
is
the
the
price
point.
If
the
owner
occupancy,
you
know
yeah,
it
would
solve
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
think
the
price
point
is
what
keep
is
what's
keeping
us
behind
and
and
I
was
trying
to
lobby
and
I'm
thinking
about
this.
E
Perhaps
you
know
perhaps
it's
a
maybe
we
have
to
be
a
little
bit
Bolder
about
about
how
to
incentivizes.
Maybe
it's
something
Financial
at
the
city
could
work
on
to
actually
make
these
ideas
happen
because
I
think,
regardless
of
what
we
decide
owner
occupied
So
I
says
whatever
we're
going
to
come
back
in
two
years
and
we're
going
to
see
two
adus
being
built
and
all
of
this
discussion
and
all
of
this
work
it's
for
nothing
and
we're
back
to
square
zero.
So
for
the
public
I'm
in
the
middle
I
I
see
everything.
E
A
I'm
gonna
get
daggers
I
think
you're
all
going
to
be
really
mad,
but
we
have
a
pretty
short
agenda.
Next
week
we
have
a
public
hearing,
a
second
public
hearing
scheduled
for
this
on
the
21st
I
I.
Don't
think
our
discussion
is
done
so
I
would
propose
that
we
rediscussed
this
on
the
14th
prior
to
for
the
public.
Listening
please
come
give
us
your
thoughts
on
the
21st,
with
potential
action
that
night
or
at
a
future
time.
A
A
Have
20
minutes
left
and
we
have
another
another
discussion
next
week,
so
sorry
to
the
board
appointees
that
are
here,
but
thank
you
for
staying
we're.
Moving
on
to
item
10,
which
is
an
abort
appointment
for
the
Arts
Council
Hannah
Nielsen
I'll,
just
ask
all
the
board
appointees
to
come
forward
to
save
a
little
bit
of
time.
Item
11
is
a
board
appointment
to
the
Human
Rights
Commission
for
Pamela
Silverman
and
item
12.
Is
it
a
board
appointment
to
the
Human
Rights
Commission
for
will
Terry?
A
A
Thank
you
for
being
patient
and
bearing
through
our
discussions
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
to
serve
on
the
Arts
Council,
take
a
minute
or
two
and
just
introduce
yourself.
Why
you're
interested
in
this
position
and
why
you're
willing
to
spend
your
free
time
for
the
city.
AJ
Leave
I
got
my
bachelor's
degree
from
Brigham
Young
University
in
illustration,
in
my
master's
degree,
in
painting
and
drawing
from
the
University
of
Utah,
my
entire
Focus,
professionally
and
personally
is
in
spreading
Arts
knowledge
throughout
the
public
and
encouraging
opportunities
for
the
public
to
engage
with
art.
One
of
my
favorite
things
that
I
do
here
at
the
Museum
is
operate.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
willing
to
serve
the
community
you're
going
to
be
on
our
consent
agenda.
You
do
not
need
to
join
the
meeting,
but
you
will
be
confirmed
as
part
of
our
consent
agenda.
Thank
you.
A
AH
Interested
in
human
rights,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Pamela
Silverman
and
I've
lived
in
Salt
Lake
City
for
27
years
and
professionally
I've
worked
with
refugees
and
immigrants
and
vulnerable
populations
pretty
much
in
the
nonprofit
sector.
My
entire
career
and
very
committed
to
social
justice
and
equity
in
our
community
I
served
for
seven
years
on
the
cdcip
board,
which
I
loved
and
had
a
great
experience
and
then
stepped
off
of
that
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
I
my
term
was
finished.
A
AI
AI
For
those
who
aren't
aware,
we
are
the
state's
leading
lgbtq,
lgbtq
advocacy
organization
and
I
works
I've
kind
of
attended
some
of
the
meetings
on
the
Human
Rights
Commission
I've,
seen
the
work,
that's
being
done
and
I'm
really
interested
in
being
a
part
of
that
and
kind
of
learning
more
about
how
policy
is
enacted
on
a
city
level
and
just
kind
of
what
that
process
looks
like.
So.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
consideration.
AI
A
Thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
with
Cloud
Utah
council
members
any
questions
seeing
none.
Thank
you.
You'll,
be
confirmed
during
our
consent
agenda.
All
right
with
that.
We
are
to
reporter
chair
Vice,
chair
and
I.
Have
none
Vice
chair
has
none
executive
director
none
which-
and
there
is
no
closed
session
correct.
So
we
are
adjourned.
We
will
be
back
for
our
public
meeting
at
seven
o'clock
e,
quick,
seven,
yes,
I
think
that's
fair
7
10!
We,
we
went
a
little
bit
long,
sorry
we'll
eat
quite
as
quick
as
we
can
and.