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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - December 15, 2021 **Due to technical issues this the second half of the meeting.**
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C
Can
I
start
amy?
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
want
to
first
say
that
I'm
really
excited
that
you
guys
are
going
to
do
condos.
We
have
a
lack
of
condos.
I
think
in
this
city.
For
some
reason,
developers
seem
to
be
oddly
hesitant
about
condos
in
salt
lake,
and
I'm
excited
that
there's
a
good
set
of
two
bedroom
units.
I'm
excited
there's
going
to
be
some
three
bedrooms.
I
I
am
slightly
sympathetic
to
some
of
the
comments
in
the
central
ninths
public
comment
about
the
facade
and
I
you
know.
C
A
So,
by
way
of
cost
that's
a
little
bit
above
my
own
pay
grade.
I
don't
get
into
estimating
a
whole
lot
of
a
threat
in
that
regard,
and
I
did
not
see
the
comment,
but
what
we
have
done
as
scottish
mentions
we've
got
at
street
level.
We've
got
these
three
separate.
You
know
in
in
concept
anyway,
three
separate
buildings
we've
tried
to
align
relatively
closely
with
shifts
in
material
with
color
and
with
regard
to
the
proximity
to
the
street
of
the
condos
up
against
state
street.
A
So
in
her
presentation
she
had
a
kind
of
building
two
kind
of
broken
up
over
here.
So
looking
at
this,
this
is
north
is
to
the
left
on
this.
So
we
sort
of
saw
that
break
to
coincide
with
the
south
side
of
this
parking
drive
right
here
we
broke
up
the
building
here.
Changed
material,
changed
the
massing
and
then
did
the
same
thing
now
again.
So
even
this
even
this
portion
here,
that's
this
yellow
portion
of
the
building.
A
It's
already
set
back
from
the
face
of
this
building
at
the
street
level
and
then,
as
you
move
further
south
again
you're
now
at,
let's
call
it
building
two
at
the
street
level.
This
portion
of
the
residential
above
sets
back
even
further,
and
that's
the
large
courtyard
that
mike
was
mentioning
where
you'll
have
a
lot
of
common
common
amenities
for
the
tenants
and
that's
that'll,
be
a
really
really
nice
kind
of
urban
feel
to
that
place,
and
as
we
continue
to
move
south,
then
we
jump
into
building
three
the
level
the
the
base.
D
D
So
you
actually
don't
have
three
bedrooms
on
the
plans
at
all,
and-
and
I
is
that
am
I
wrong
here
and
also
you
have
studios-
which
you
didn't
mention
I
mean
it
was
not
mentioned.
So
I'm
I'm
sort
of
wanting
to
recalculate
the
parking
requirements
because
it
looks
to
me,
like
you,
have
a
lot
more
parking
than
you
actually
are
allowed
to
have.
A
You
know
that
balance
between
the
right
number
of
units,
the
right
size
of
units,
the
right
bedroom
count
and
so
forth,
so
that
we
are
kind
of
working
through
so
katya.
I
wonder
if
I
could
punt
back
to
you
a
little
bit
if
you
could
explain,
because
we
were,
quite
frankly
a
little
confused
with
regard
to
the
parking
requirement
for
this
fbun2
zone.
A
D
D
So
I
mean
it
is
a
lot
of
parking
in
a
place.
That's
fairly
urban.
That's
supposed
to
be.
You
know
an
urban
zone
where
people
would
not
necessarily
have
two
parking
spaces.
It's
certainly
not
just
for
a
two-bedroom
unit,
so
I
think
you're
way
over-parked
on
this
one,
and
that
may
be
a
way
for
you
to
really
save
a
lot
of
money,
and
even
maybe
I
don't
I
don't
know,
maybe
the
underground
parking
doesn't
even
need
to
be
built.
D
D
A
F
D
A
D
H
D
H
Yeah,
I
would
say
it's
as
close
to
the
maximum
as
you
can
get,
and,
and
certainly
they
they
have
to
follow
those
regulations.
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
let
them
build
more
parking
and
you're
right
that
we
want
to
encourage
less
parking.
I
completely
agree
with
you
on
everything
you
said.
Thankfully,
this
will
be
a
lot
more
clear
when
the
council
adopts
our
updated
parking
regulations
from
what
we
currently
have
and
that
you,
I
believe,
reviewed.
I
don't
know
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
two
years
ago.
Yes,.
D
H
So,
and-
and
so
it
is
confusing-
and
I
get
that,
but
yes,
we
have
determined
that
basically
the
minimum
parking
becomes
the
maximum,
and
so
if,
if
not,
we
basically
say
you
can't
put
any
parking
at
all.
If
we
said
the
maximum
is
the
minimum
which
is
zero,
maybe
saying
you
can't
put
even
one
parking
stall
in
and
I
don't
think
that
is
necessarily
reasonable
either,
and
so
this
is
what
we
took
when
we
interpreted
the
section
of
the
code,
so
hopefully
we're
on
the
it
will
get
better
and
easier.
A
Those
are
yeah,
these
are
interior,
stairways.
It's
it's
one!
Contiguous
building.
These
are
really
just
circulation,
pedestrian
circulation,
but
that's
I
mean,
and
it's
got
the
same
kind
of
thing.
You
drive
underneath
the
building.
So
really
we
I
mean
we're
a
little
bit
longer
than
what's
there
existing,
but
honestly
by
the
time,
really,
the
only
thing
we're
adding
really
that's
different
from
what
there
is
kind
of
this.
This
open
spot
right
here.
This
open
asphalt
here.
G
Well,
certainly,
if
you're
walking
on
that
street,
it's
different
to
have
a
big
parking
lot
and
then
a
shorter
building,
that's
long
than
a
tall
building,
that's
right
at
the
sidewalk.
That
is
long
right.
So
it's
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
big
difference,
but
that
is
already
a
pretty
long
building
right.
There.
D
A
Yeah
so
the
there
there's
good
size
distribution
lines
with
rocky
mountain
power
already
on
the
site.
They
actually,
if
I
remember
right,
if
they
don't
already
hang
over
the
existing
roof
of
the
coachman's
restaurant
they're,
very,
very
close
to
it.
So
as
we
started
looking
at
that
with
new
construction,
we're
actually
there's
two
big
concerns.
One
is
undermining
the
foundations
for
those
power
lines,
but
then
there
are
also
because
there
are
distribution
and
transmission
lines.
A
There
there's
also
rocky
mountain
power
requirements
as
to
how
close
you
can
be
with
a
built
structure
to
those
power
lines.
So
if
you
can
consider
a
five-story
building
that
has
to
need
that
the
exterior
windows
need
to
be
cleaned.
Somebody's
got
to
get
out
on
the
roof,
come
down
over
the
edge
and
clean
those
windows
from
the
roof.
They
can
only
be
within
a
certain
distance
or
they
can
only
come.
A
D
I
I
A
J
J
However,
with
the
culvert
there
and
everything
involved,
I
felt
I
thought
it
would
be
so
much
better
just
to
bring
traffic
in
one
way
and
out
and
whiten
it
there.
So
the
only
thing
we
would
be
requesting
of
udot
and
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
just
because
we
need
to
know
what
we
need
to
do.
You
know
with
this
step
right
now
before
we
can
move
forward.
So
basically,
all
we're
doing
is
widening
it
and
making
it
directional.
J
When
you're
coming
from
the
south
to
the
north
you'd
come
in
right
away
and
then
obviously
you
can
see
the
arrows
where,
when
you're
leaving
the
property,
you
would
directional
as
well,
so
it,
I
think,
really
cleans
things
up
and
you've
got
much
better
vision
of
the
street.
When
you
do
that,
you
know
of
your
of
your
oncoming
traffic
and
pedestrians
and
everything
I
mean
it's
just
a
huge
difference.
When
you
do
things
like
that
anyway,
and
then
I
I
would
okay
that
that's
fine
I'll
let
go.
A
I
believe
the
sidewalks
are,
in
effect
at
least
along
state
street
are
are
in
effect
about
what
they
are
right
now
we're
coming
again,
because
we
have
a
zero
lot
line,
we're
basically
yeah
zero
lot
line,
we're
coming
up
to
the
back
of
sidewalk
with
a
fair
portion
of
or
yeah.
I
guess
maybe
portions
are
building
we've
reset
some
of
the
entrances
for
the
commercial
space,
but
maybe
it's
five
six
feet
give
or
take.
A
A
B
B
We've
approved
some
a
similar
type
design
where
you
had
an
entrance,
a
vehicle
entrance
that
broke
it
up,
but
that
building
was
like
250
280
feet
long.
This
is
double
that
and
I
I'd
like
to
hear
what
other
ideas
have
you
had
to
actually
break
these
up
into,
maybe
even
two
different
buildings.
So
this
is
not
550
plus
feet.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
fair
question.
The
tough
part
is
when
you
get
into
the
buildings
like
this.
You
know
egress,
so
you
have
different
building
systems,
mechanical
systems
and
plumbing
systems,
and
it
really
becomes
a
question
of
egress.
How
do
you
get
people
out
of
the
building
without
having
you
know,
20
different
stairwells,
and
that's
that
was
kind
of
really?
What
drove
a
lot
of
this?
A
You
know,
and
we've
talked
about
different
methods
or
techniques
of
design
that
could
help
reinforce
the
fact
that
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
reinforce
the
the
the
notion
that
these
are
three
separate
buildings.
You
know
for
now,
we've
kept
it
relatively
simple,
with
changes
in
materials
and
colors
and
and
recesses
and
so
forth.
A
We
felt
it
was
a
pretty
effective
method
of
breaking
these
buildings.
Up
and
again,
I
the
the
big
concern,
at
least
all
that
we've
that
we've
talked
about
with
the
planning
staff,
has
been
the
pedestrian
experience,
and
so
with
from
that
perspective,
having
broken
this
up
into
quote
unquote,
three
buildings
really
is
achieving
in
our
minds
is
achieving
that
that
breakup.
J
J
That
was
never
really
answered
earlier,
but
the
whole
idea
here
is
to
create
a
a
project
that
people
can
come
in
and
buy
literally
one
bedroom,
two
bedroom,
three
bedroom
and
a
few
studios,
there's
not
going
to
be
many
approximately
six
to
eight
is
all
I'm
looking
at
and
still
make
it
affordable,
which
means
I'm
going
to
give
them
a
product
between
275
up
to
450.,
okay,
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
achieve
this.
I
can
achieve
it.
J
If
I
do
change
it,
it's
gonna
be
it
would
be
drastically
different
and-
and
I
think
this
is
aesthetically
beautiful
and
would
be
a
wonderful
place
for
people
to
to-
I
mean
you're,
just
so
close
to
the
city
and
you're.
So
close
to
salt
lake
community
college,
the
university
western
westminster
college
everywhere
tracks
is
just
down
the
road
I
mean
it
makes
it
the
ballpark
liberty
park.
J
I
mean
this
would
be
a
wonderful
starter
home,
and
that
was
my
whole
objective
in
in
trying
to
create
this
project
that
will
give
people
an
opportunity
to
do
it.
I
mean
if
anybody
ate
at
coach
wins.
Our
mantra
was
to
give
you
the
best
for
the
least
price
possible
and
literally
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
achieve
with
this
whole
thing.
So
I'm
not
trying
to
trying
to
assert
any
anything.
What
we're
trying
to
make
it
work
under
those
parameters.
B
Can
I
yeah,
let
me
just
wrap
up
and
then
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
the
public
comment
period
because
we'll
cycle
back
to
us
and
after
that,
I
will
just
say
that
I
appreciate
your
objectives,
but
my
view
on
these
type
of
things
has
always
been
as
a
city.
There's
one
shot
at
this
parcel
in
our
given
lifetimes,
and
so
you
know
paying
attention
to
the
type
of
product
that
we
end
up.
Building
is
important
to
me
and
I'm
not
convinced
550.
B
Some
feet
of
a
continuous
building
is
what
we
want
to
see
there,
but
that
you
know
we'll
continue
to
discuss
that
afterward.
So,
commissioners,
I'm
going
to
just
conclude
this
part,
but
if
you
have
other
questions
hold
them
for
when
we
come
back
after
the
public
comment
period,
and
we
can
ask
more
questions
and
have
more
of
a
wrap
up
discussion.
B
So
if
you
are
here
for
the
public
comments,
just
another
brief
reminder
of
how
to
participate
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
of
your
screen
as
a
hand,
it
looks
like
that.
You'll
need
to
select
that
to
raise
it.
Let
us
know
that
you
wish
to
speak
when
you're
done
speaking.
If
you
would
click
that
hand
again
it
unraises
it
and
it
allows
us
to
process
or
to
you
know,
manage
who's
speaking
better.
B
You
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak
and
given
how
many
people
want
to
speak,
I
will
be
pretty
strict
on
that
and
then
please
also
state
your
name
for
the
record
at
the
beginning.
This
is
a
public
comment
period.
It's
not
a
back
and
forth
q.
A
however,
the
two
minutes
are
yours.
If
you
wish
to
ask
questions,
I
will
be
writing
them
down
after
the
public
comment
period.
H
G
A
A
B
G
K
K
My
name
is
taylor,
anderson
and
I
guess
I
wanted
to
reiterate.
I
know
it's
a
udot
issue,
the
sidewalks
on
the
I
guess
the
west
side
here
when
I'm
measuring
from
from
google
and
I'm
maybe
one
of
the
few
people
that
willingly
walks
this
stretch
I
live
near
here
and
the
idea
of
walking
between
a
building
that
that's
built
a
very
long
building.
K
I
I
know
that
that's
their
right,
that's
the
the
fbun2
has
been
approved
already,
and
this
is
what's
being
allowed,
but
I
wonder
if
we're
doing
the
same
on
the
north
end
of
the
building,
if
it's
a
consideration,
the
developer
could
make
to
to
widen
that
a
little
bit
or
to
improve
the
pedestrian
experience
on
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
building.
So
it's
more,
I
guess
a
question
or
a
thought
or
a
piece
of
feedback.
However,
you
want
to
take
it
thanks.
H
B
H
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Let
me
pull
it
up
for
you
all
right.
It
says
the
community
council
is
generally
supportive
of
a
new
high
quality
building
that
will
bring
new
housing
and
businesses
to
our
neighborhood.
However,
we
have
reservations
about
a
building.
That's
linked
with
an
uninterrupted
facade
built
right
up
to
either
the
setback
or
property
line.
An
important
urban
design
principle
is
the
building's
funding.
Sidewalk
should
offer
variety
and
interest
for
pedestrians.
H
This
building
is
missing
the
opportunity
to
offer
some
planted
open
space
to
allow
pedestrians
a
chance
to
step
off
the
sidewalk
at
reasonable
intervals.
Salt
lake
city,
long
block
faces
this
is
even
more
crucial
as
nice,
as
this
building
appears
for
the
pedestrian
walking
along
it.
The
experience
is
likely
to
be
relentless.
There
may
be
things
an
activity
to
look
through
to
look
after
the
window,
but
there
also
may
not
be.
There
is
no
way
to
guarantee
the
storefronts
will
be
actively
used
from
an
urban
design
and
walkability
perspective.
H
The
best
thing
to
do
on
a
building
of
the
scale
is
to
break
the
building
facade
up
into
separate
masses
or
vary
the
setback
to
the
front
facade.
One
way
to
do
this
is
by
introducing
one
or
two
courtyards
at
the
sidewalk
that
allow
the
public
to
interact
with
the
space
and
offer
an
amenity
they're,
also
useful
amenities
for
the
ground
level
commercial
spaces.
This
open
space
can
be
used
by
the
public,
even
though
it
is
on
private
property
and
allows
the
opportunity
to
introduce
trees
and
vegetation.
H
Balling
facade
design
also
impacts
the
way
cars
move
along
the
street
when,
when
buildings
are
designed
with
an
uninterrupted
facade
like
this,
it
raises
the
perceived
design,
speed
of
a
road
and
makes
the
street
more
comfortable
to
drive
at
higher
speeds.
Change.
Changes
in
height
form,
increased
pedestrian
activity,
increased
tree,
canopy
all
work
together
to
lower
traffic
speed
and
make
streets
more
sticky,
which
is
a
good
thing
for
neighborhoods.
H
Another
design
concern
is
the
ceiling
height
of
the
first
floor,
commercial
space.
We
have
a
vested
interest
in
seeing
these
commercial
spaces
be
active
and
successful
and,
through
experience
have
found
that
spaces
with
low
ceilings
don't
do
well
and
have
trouble
attracting
and
retaining
good
businesses.
When
buildings
get
taller
and
larger
the
stakes
go
up
to
offset
the
possible
impacts
of
the
building
on
the
streetscape.
We
need
to
insist
that
the
building
contributes
more
to
the
public
realm.
H
We
need
to
begin
and
begin
insisting
that,
when
a
developer
is
seeking
relief
from
requirements
that
they
offer
something
in
return,
a
quote
gift
to
the
street,
you
could
ask
this
app
to
go.
We
would
ask
this
applicant:
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
to
find
some
ways
to
be
a
better
neighbor
and
set
a
better
urban
design
pattern
for
future
projects
going
forward.
B
No
other
emails,
I
see
no
other
hands
raised
so
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
common
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
First
up,
I
allow
the
applicant
to
address
taylor.
Anderson's
thought,
slash
question
of
increasing
the
pedestrian
pleasantness
experience
on
the
west
side.
Given
the
sidewalk
width,
you
wanted.
F
A
A
The
portion
of
the
building
have
to
be
up
against
that.
Back
of
curb
and
again
I
don't
remember
exactly
what
the
parameters
were
as
to
how
much
of
the
building
had
to
be.
That
close,
but
you
know
we've
recessed
portions
of
this
building
for
those
building
entrances
for
the
commercial
for
the
housing
lobby
area,
we've
actually
recessed
some
of
those
we
actually
had
some
of
them
even
deeper
than
what
we
show
right
now
and
as
part
of
the
staff
review.
B
C
It's
sandra
here
I,
I
am
wondering
a
question
from
mike
and
ryan
what
research
was
done?
I
I'm
still
concerned
about
the
volume
of
studio
units
and
that
we
are
building
in
this
city
and
particularly
like
what
does
the
acs
show
in
terms
of
the
growth
of
single
person,
households
in
salt
lake
city
relative
to
the
number
of
permits
that
are
being
approved
for
studio,
because
the
only
people
that
are
going
to
occupy
a
studio
are
one-person
households.
J
All
right,
because
I
was
going
to
say
I-
I
did
a
lot
of
analysis
through
different
real
estate
and
and
a
whole
bunch
of
different
people.
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me
right
this
very
minute,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
that's
why
my
count
of
studios
is
literally
gonna,
be
somewhere
around
eight
and
literally
I
don't
want
more
than
that.
J
My
thought
behind
that
is
that
there
may
be
people
from
out
of
state
that
would
be
attending
school
that
may
or
may
not
have
or
want
to
to
own
a
studio
and-
and
I
literally
I'm
not
going
gonna-
let
that
number
exceed
eight
and
ryan
knows
that
I've
been
pushing
him
so
that
we
can
get
together.
But
we've
been
trying
to
put
the
material
together
for
this
here
anyway,
that
we
want
to
redo
that
count.
That
count
is
not
accurate.
J
That's
from
a
previous
architect
that
I
had,
and
we
we've
just
been
basically
working
with
so
many
other
obstacles
that
we
haven't
got
to
that
count.
Yet
because
we
don't
even
know
if
we
can
do
this
project
yet.
But
my
ideal
is
somewhere
around
40
single
bedroom,
50
two-bedroom
anywhere
from
four
to
five
three-bedroom
and
the
remainder
to
be
sucked
up
by
the
studios
just
to
to
take
up
the
space
so
that
you
know
we
can
utilize
the
space.
J
J
You
know
certain
circle
to
find
some
of
this
information
and
then
some
of
it
didn't
apply
because
it
was
too
expensive
and
it
doesn't
apply
to
what
I'm
going
to
do.
You
know
when
you
get
to
gateway
when
you
get
to
all
those
things
that
doesn't
apply.
Those
numbers
are
not
the
same
as
that
would
apply
to
this
project.
J
So
we
we
did
a
lot,
and
my
study
is
that
this
is
what's
needed.
I,
I
obviously
am
banking
on
it.
You
know
otherwise
I
wouldn't
be
pushing
forward
for
this
project,
and
then
you
know
the
gentleman
that
from
the
council
that
addressed
that
you
know
first
level
he
wants
good
retail
places.
There.
We've
got
16
foot.
You
know
that
first
level
for
retail,
that's
going
to
attract
some
fantastic
people.
I
want
to
put
like
a
little
grocery
store.
J
J
Maybe
a
really
neat
salon,
maybe
a
what
do
you
call
it
just
a
lot
of
little
things
that
will
the
tenants
will
help
the
retail
and
the
retail
will
love
to
have
those
tenants,
above
them,
as
customers
and
with
16-foot
ceilings,
and
what
we
plan
on
doing
there
we're
going
to
track
some
good
ones
like
a
verizon
would
go
well
there
things
like
this.
You
know
what
I
mean.
G
Well,
I
want
I
want
to
recognize
what
brenda
was
saying
about
the
other
plan
development
that
we
looked
at,
like
the
amount
of
information
we
have
on
this
one
is
significantly
different
than
the
other
planned
development
we
looked
at.
So
maybe
I
don't
know,
maybe
there's
a
different
way
to
split
lots,
or
something
like
that
does
this.
Is
this
building
big
enough
that
it's
going
to
have
to
go
through
design
review
that
was
20
000
square
feet
that
you
have
to.
H
Yeah
commissioner
burroughs
walcott
is
looking
for
that
different
zones
have
different
thresholds
which
would
trigger
a
design
review
so,
for
example,
in
the
sugarhouse
business
district,
it
is
twenty
thousand
square
feet.
If
you're
in
a
community
business
or
cd
zone,
it's
actually
7
500
square
feet.
The
iphone
ui
does
not
ever
require
you
going
through
a
design
review.
If
you
meet
all
of
the
zoning
regulations,
we're
here
because
they're
asking
for
modifications
for
the
planned
development
process.
B
Me
get
this
one
in
really
quick,
so
I
think
this
is
more
for
kelsey
as
acting
director.
So
whenever
a
project
gets
say
approved
by
the
planning
commission,
and
then
you
know
it's
up
to
the
director
to
decide.
If
modifications
are
major
enough
to
bring
back
to
us,
I'm
concerned
about
also
not
having
udot
approval
that
could
significantly
modify
the
the
entrances
and
exits
because
udot
is
udot
and
they're
going
to
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
that.
Where
is
the
threshold?
B
F
G
D
So
I
think,
actually
this
this.
From
my
perspective,
this
project
is
not
ready
for
prime
time
number
one.
We
have
a
munich
mix
that
would
suggest
that
the
building
is
gonna,
be
a
lot
bigger
than
it.
Actually,
if
you
have
more
three
bedrooms
and
more
two
bedrooms-
and
you
know
substituting
for
a
lot
more
one
bit.
D
Okay,
I'm
saying
that
the
applicant
is
talking
about
changing
the
unit
mix,
significantly
that
from
what
they
have
actually
in
the
drawings,
and
when
you
look
at
the
units
in
the
drawings
there
isn't
room
on
that
building
floor,
plate
to
make
a
lot
more
three-bedroom
units
and
a
lot
more
two-bedroom
units
and
a
lot
fewer
studio
units.
So
there
will
have
to
be
some
significant
changes
to
this
building
in
order
to
meet
those
unit
mixes
that
the
applicant
is
talking
about.
D
I
think
the
issue
of
the
curb
cuts
and
the
state
will
have
a
tremendous
effect.
I
I
can't
imagine
them
allowing
two
curb
cuts
like
that
next
to
each
other
and
when
they
do
that
and-
and
that
may
not
even
be
desirable-
I
do
think
that
it
is
too
long,
and
there
is,
you
know
you
not
only
is
the
building
too
long,
but
it's
also
got
one
elevator.
D
As
far
as
I
can
see,
two
elevators
two
elevators
okay,
if
if
it
has
two
elevators
already,
then
it's
not
that
hard
for
you
to
for
you
to
add
another
staircase
and
have
essentially
two
buildings
where
you
have
one
long
one.
So
I
think
I
think
this
building
really
needs
a
little
bit
of
a
rework
from
the
design
perspective.
D
Katya
talked
in
the
beginning
about
trying
to
break
up
the
facade
itself
more,
and
I
think
that
at
the
very
least
you
could
create
more
of
a
courtyard
effect
so
that
maybe
not
it's.
Maybe
it's
still
all
one
building,
but
at
least
it
looks
a
little
bit
more
like
two
buildings
or
three
buildings
from
the
st
from
the
street
level,
which
means
you
would
have
to
break
that.
That
second
level
facade.
Excuse
me
that
second,
the
second.
I
J
I
I
B
B
I
I
F
B
B
D
B
E
L
F
C
Andrea
I'll
vote
no,
and
I
want
to
explain
briefly
my
thinking
I
am
concerned
about
forcing
this
to
go
back
to
the
architect
without
some
sign
that
we
will
accept
the
building
length
and
the
setback,
because
it
adds
to
the
soft
construction
costs
by
kind
of
forcing
the
applicant
to
go
back
and
forth.
That's
my
reason
for
voting
no.
B
I
B
Okay,
that
motion
to
table
and
send
it
back
to
the
applicant
to
send
back
to
the
staff
passes
from
six
to
one,
and
I
think
the
the
points
brought
up
were
pretty
clear
for
staff
of
what
the
commission
would
like
to
better
address
in
the
next
time.
We
see
this
all
right
with
that.
It's
been
two
hours.
Let's
take
a
five
minute
break
and
reconvene
at
7
36.
F
B
B
B
F
L
L
All
right,
you
should
be
seeing
a
presentation
now,
so
this
is
the
river's
edge
at
redwood,
road
design,
review
and
planned
development.
As
you
noted,
with
the
application
numbers,
the
project
request.
It's
a
proposed
multi-family
residential
development
with
82
units
housed
in
12
individual
buildings.
L
This
would
be
located
on
a
2.2
7
acre
parcel.
That's
currently
vacant
at
750,
north
redwood,
the
zoning
is
cb
or
community
business
design
review
is
required
due
to
the
buildings
exceeding
the
total
total
building
size
limits
of
the
cb
zone,
which
allows
for
a
7
500
square
foot
footprint
or
15
000
square
feet.
Overall.
L
Since
this
is
in
the
cv,
zoning
district-
these
are
essentially
town
home
units
attached
attached.
Single-Family
type
units
are
not
allowed
in
cb,
however,
this
will
be
planted
as
a
condominium
development
with
ownership
of
the
individual
units,
whereas
the
property
will
be
held
in
common,
so
that
is
allowed
as
a
multi-family
development
in
the
cb
zoning
district.
L
L
K
L
Site
context:
the
property
is
zone
cb
and
it
abuts
property
to
the
south
that
is
zone
cb
all
along
700
north.
A
number
of
those
properties
were
rezoned
from
r1
5000
to
cb.
In
the
last
I
would
say
three
years
there
were
a
couple
different
applications
for
a
variety
of
properties
in
this
area
to
be
rezoned
to
cb.
L
This
particular
lot
again
is
vacant.
It
did
have
commercial
uses
at
one
time.
It's
been
vacant
for
quite
a
number
of
years
and
looking
through
city
files,
it's
kind
of
been
a
little
bit
of
a
code
enforcement
problem,
child
with
dumping
and
camping
and
all
sorts
of
other
things
going
on
so
high
weeds
things
like
that.
L
But,
to
be
honest,
the
property
immediately
to
the
north
is
a
condominium
development
about
three
stories.
Tall
and
most
of
the
developments
on
ivy
circle
and
irving
street
are
all
small
scale.
Residential
use
is
typically
four
plexes,
so
the
zoning
pattern
doesn't
match
the
zoning.
So
the
sorry,
the
development
pattern
doesn't
match
the
underlying
zoning,
so
it
is
in
an
area
of
largely
multi-family
uses
again
a
little
bit
of
a
aerial
view.
L
Looking
to
the
west
of
the
subject,
property
on
the
south
boundary
is
a
gas
station
property
and
then
again,
these
are
the
properties
on
irving
and
ivy
that
have
largely
been
developed
for
small
scale.
Residential
multi-family
uses
standards
of
the
review.
We
looked
at
the
base.
Zoning
standards
for
the
cb
business,
zoning
district,
the
design
standards
in
chapter
21a37,
as
well
as
the
standards
for
planned
developments
and
standards
for
design
review.
L
We'll
note
that
a
couple
of
things
the
parking
for
the
property
is
one
space
per
unit.
That's
the
requirement
in
the
cb
district
and
one
space
that
will
be
provided
per
unit
within
the
enclosed
garage
at
each
unit
and
they're,
also
providing
a
extra
14
surface
parking
spaces
for
guest
and
other
parking.
L
As
far
as
buffering
goes
and
I'll
go
back
to
the
site
plan
for
a
moment,
the
requirement,
since
it's
an
interior
interior
lot,
they
do
not
have
an
interior
side
yard
requirement
on
either
the
north
or
south
property
lines.
However,
they
are
in,
they
are
providing
a
seven
foot
interior
side
yard,
which
is
beyond
what's
required
and
landscaping
both
of
those
and
then
the
rear
yard,
which
would
be
on
the
east
side
of
the
development.
L
L
So
such
staff
is
recommending
or
finds
that
the
proposal
meets
the
applicable
design,
review
and
plan
development
standards
and
recommends.
The
planning
commission
approve
both
requests,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
the
final
approval
of
scientists,
site,
signage
lighting,
landscaping,
tree
street
trees.
L
B
So
I'm
looking
at
the
I'm
looking
at
the
layout
on
page
three
of
the
staff
report
that
shows
that
t
that
you
talked
about
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
like
what's
the
distance
between
the
units
is
it
so
when
you
have
the
parking,
is
there
any
sort
of
a
little
driveway
or
is
the
garage
right
up
to
the
to
the
road?
You
know
the
access
drive.
B
B
B
F
Wonderful
presentation,
so
I
probably
don't
need
to
reiterate
the
things
he's
had.
Yes,
we
are
providing
additional
buffering
on
the
sides
from
what
is
required
to
try
and
help
be
a
good
neighbor
and
point
out
that
any
one
of
our
individual
buildings
meets
the
size
requirement
of
the
zone.
It's
just.
We
have
multiple
of
them,
so
we
go
over
the
size
requirement
of
the
zone,
but
then
I'm
here
for
any
questions.
You
have.
G
B
L
I
would
know
one
thing:
it
was
sent
to
the
community
councils
for
the
area,
and
this
is
I've
had
a
number
of
rezones
in
this
area.
It
actually
falls
within
600
feet
of
four
different
community
council
areas
and
we
didn't
get
any
comments
from
either
rose
park,
jordan,
meadows,
west
point
or
fairport
park
on
this.
C
I'll
make
a
motion:
okay,
go
ahead,
andrew
based
on
the
findings
and
analysis
in
the
staff
report,
testimony
and
discussion
at
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
vote
to
approve
the
proposed
design
review
and
plan
development
applications
for
the
rivers
edge
at
redwood
townhomes,
located
at
750
north
redwood
road
files,
plntcm
2021-1.
C
With
the
conditions
of
approval
listed
in
the
staff
report,
specifically
final
approval
of
the
details
for
site
signage
lighting,
landscaping
and
street
trees
will
be
delegated
to
staff
for
verification
during
the
building
permit
review
and
two
a
condom.
Minimum
condominium
plat
must
be
finalized
and
recorded
for
this
development.
B
F
B
C
B
M
M
Thank
you,
okay,
so
yeah.
This
is
a
request
to
rezone,
just
a
single
parcel
at
that
is
currently
zoned,
r1
7000,
and
it
includes
the
seldom
used
or
seldom
seen
transitional
overlay
but
they're
requesting
that
that
would
remain
in
place.
So
you
can
see
the
property
here
outlined
in
yellow
with
the
transitional
overlay
with
the
black
dash
lines.
M
It's
just
under
0.8
acres,
there's,
currently
a
single
family
home
on
it
and
a
large
workshop
to
the
rear
property
and
there's
no
specific
proposal
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
property
at
this
point.
But
the
intent
is
that
it
would
be
redeveloped
for
future
either
multi-family
or
mixed-use
development
and
staff
is
recommending.
The
planning
commission
ford
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
M
So
taking
a
look
at
the
vicinity
just
to
kind
of
give
a
little
better
feel,
so
this
is
a
subject
property
here
off
700
west,
with
the
large
napa
auto
across
the
street.
You
can
see.
There's
to
the
north
is
kind
of
the
single
family.
Neighborhood
that's
fairly
well
established
and
then
to
the
south
is
largely
light.
Industrial,
a
lot
of
outdoor
storage
and
whatnot,
and
then
there
is
some
pl
land
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
M
So
this
is,
in
the
top
left
hand.
Corner
is
the
subject
property
with
the
single
family,
home
and
the
storage
sheds
to
the
rear
and
then
circling
around
looking
kind
of
northwest.
This
is
one
of
the
single
family
homes
to
the
northwest,
the
napa
auto
across
the
street,
and
then
this
is
taken
from
the
other
street
looking
at
the
side
of
the
property,
but
one
of
the
light
industrial
with
the
parking
lot
there.
That's
quite
well
kept
so
in
in
looking
at
this
there's.
M
A
number
of
considerations
to
examine
first
is,
of
course,
the
master
plan
for
the
area.
It
falls
into
the
west
side,
master
plan
and
really
there's
quite
a
few
statements
that
have
been
included
in
your
staff
report,
specifically
about
the
future
vision
for
the
700
west
corridor
to
gradually
diversify
and
add
more
options
for
commercial
and
multi-family
residential,
and
although
some
of
that
can
be
accomplished
with
the
transitional
overlay,
it
doesn't
meet
the
full
intent
as
as
written
in
the
master
plan.
M
M
M
M
Of
course,
r1
7000
on
one
side
has
a
7
foot
buffer,
and
this
would
include
a
seven
foot
landscape
buffer
adjacent
to
residential,
so
in.
In
that
sense,
it
would
help
protect
that
neighborhood
and
then,
of
course,
it
would
introduce
uses
that
are
more
compatible
with
the
single-family
residential,
and
you
know
the
cb
zone
doesn't
allow
for
like
light
manufacturing
in
the
outdoor
storage
and
that
can
that
can
have
impact
on
the
single-family
residential.
So
we
do
staff
does
feel
it's
an
appropriate
buffer
that
transitional
overlay.
M
M
That
kind
of
incorporates
a
few
more
standards
and
and
checks
for
nuisances
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
the
biggest
problem
is
it.
You
know
it
does
still
allow
for
that
light
manufacturing
and
does
not
allow
housing
so
in
and
of
itself
it's
maybe
not
the
best
transition
to
the
single
family,
residential
and
and
then
also
because
the
cb
zone
allows
for
uses
that
are
non-residential.
M
B
M
M
B
Yeah
and
you
brought
that
up
like
they
might
not
be
the
best
transition
to
the
single
to
the
residential
on
the
on
on
the
one
side
right,
but
they're
all
conditional
uses
but
conditional
uses.
Are
we
don't
rare?
We
don't
get
to
really
say
no
to
them
to
modify
whatever
type
of
a
impact.
They
would
make
right.
M
B
Okay,
why
are
we
going
to
leave
this
transitional
overlays?
I'm
considering
I've
never
seen
this
before.
It's
really
there's
not
many
properties
that
follow
this.
Why
do
we
want
to
leave
it,
especially
if
it
allows
some
some
uses
that
probably
aren't
what
we
want
to
see
as
a
good
transition
buffer
to
those
residential
unit
buildings
next
door.
M
The
applicants
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
as
well,
but
it
seems
to
in
my
conversations
with
them
that
it
does
open
up
a
few
more
options,
and
if
the
market
is
not
there
and
not
looking
favorable
for
multi-family
or
for
something
like
that,
it
does
give
a
few
more
options
and
again
they
they
are
good.
The
additional
standards
are
good
they're,
just
not
as
good
as
would
be
under
the
cb
zone.
F
F
Sure
my
name
is
marco
geronimo,
and
this
is
my
wife
melinda
hello,
so
we
are
the
ones
that
are
trying
to
get
permission
for
this
rezoning.
I
think
what
eric
already
presented.
It's
plenty
good
yeah,
so
we
do
appreciate
your
time
all
we
all
we
can
say
is
that
we've
been
in
this
neighborhood
for
quite
a
while,
so
we're
very
invested
as
well
to
see
it
progressing
and
improving.
B
So
I
have
kind
of
a
follow-up
question
to
what
I
was
just
talking
to
eric
about
and
eric
you
might
have
to
pipe
in
on
this.
So
if
you
chose
to
use
the
the
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
transitional
overlay
but
are
not
allowed
in
the
cv
zone,
none
of
those
have
a
housing
component,
and
yet
you
will
be
having
to
at
least
replace
one
dwelling
unit
eric.
M
B
G
When,
when
we
had
talked
about
that
with
eric,
there
were
some
differences
in
setbacks
and
stuff
that
some
smaller
details
that
we
thought
and
since
the
tr,
the
the
zoning
amendment
didn't
require
us
to
let
go
of
the
transitional
overlay
that
there
didn't
seem
to
be
a
reason
to
do
so,
for
the
plans
that
we
had
and
just
allowed
for
for
those
additional
options
with
some
setbox.
If
we
needed
to
utilize
those.
B
I
don't
want
to
say
totally
concerned,
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
those
those
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
transitional
overlay,
not
really
being
something
we
would
want
to
see
happen
here
that
it
would
be
cleaner
if
we
did
away
with
that
and
you
had
the
options
to
do
whatever
you
wanted,
but
I'm
going
to
think
that
through
as
we
go
forward
anyway,
I
just
was
curious
as
like
why
your
reasoning
is
why
you
wanted
to
keep
it.
So
that's
helpful
commissioners,
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time.
B
C
B
H
And
commissioners,
I
I
do
know
that
some
of
these
uses
are
kind
of
light
industrial
uses.
But
I
think,
if
you
look
in
the
context
of
southwest,
I
think
that,
although
they
may
not
be
appropriate
in
most
areas
that
you
may
want
to
just
kind
of
take
a
look
and
kind
of
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
or
not
you
think
they're
appropriate.
B
F
E
B
N
I'm
presenting
it's
chrissy
gilmore,
all
right
chrissy,
so
you
should
be
able
to
see
my
screen
yep
you're
good.
So
this
is
a
request
initiated
by
the
mayor
to
amend
the
zoning
map
to
remove
the
property
at
2300,
2333
west
north
temple
from
the
airport
flight
path
protection
influence
zone,
a
the
property
is
currently
occupied
by
a
commercial
building,
which
is
the
airport
inn.
N
The
result
would
allow
the
airport
in
to
accommodate
days
greater
than
30
days
as
transitional
housing.
The
zoning
code
does
not
include
a
land
use
that
directly
matches
this
kind
of
supportive
housing
under
city
code
rooms
that
are
available
for
rental
or
lease
for
periods
of
less
than
30
days
are
considered
a
hotel
or
motel,
while
dwellings
that
are
rented
for
periods
of
longer
than
one
month
generally
fall
into
the
residential
land
use
category
and
would
be
prohibited
in
the
transitional.
N
So
as
far
as
key
considerations,
if,
if
removed
from
the
influence
zone,
the
property
would
still
be
subject
to
all
the
zoning
regulations
of
the
base
zone,
which
is
the
tsa
mixed
employment
center
core
zone.
The
primary
impact
is
that
the
uses
currently
prohibited
under
the
overlay
zone
would
now
be
allowed
if
they
are
permitted
or
conditional
uses
in
the
tsa
zone.
These
include
multi-family,
residential
and
some
institutional
uses
that
are
prohibited
in
the
overlay
zone.
I
folded
those
the
main
impacts
on
the
screen.
N
The
full
analysis
of
analysis
is
an
attachment
e
of
your
staff
report,
and
then
these
are
photos
of
the
site,
so
this
top
left
photo
is
the
existing
airport
in
that
is
currently
being
remodeled
to
accommodate
this
transitional
housing.
If
approved,
then
the
top
right
is
the
property
to
the
west,
which
is
a
car
rental
shop
and
then
below
is
the
top.
The
bottom
left
is
the
headqua
headquarter
office
building
and
then
across
the
street
is
airport,
which
you
can
see
so
the
recommendations.
N
So
as
far
as
public
engagement
staff
receives
two
comments
from
the
same
individual
concerned
about
the
proposal,
the
proposal
is
technically
in
two
community
council
boundaries.
I
did
not
hear
from
either
one
of
them,
but
the
west
point
community
council,
which
is
outside
of
the
boundaries,
did
submit
comments
with
general
concern
that
this
would
set
a
precedence
for
similar
rezones
and
those
comments
are
available
in
your
staff
report.
N
A
development
agreement
shall
be
recorded
on
the
property
that
requires
any
new
development
or
substantial
remodel
of
existing
development
to
be
constructed
with
air
circulation
systems
of
at
least
30
dbs
of
sound
attenuation
and
sleeping
areas,
and
at
least
25
dbs
of
sound
attenuation
elsewhere
to
help
mitigate
that
impact
of
longer
term
residential
stays
and
with
that.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I'm
available
for
any
questions.