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Planning Commission Meeting - 09/13/2023
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We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started
just
for
reference.
The
clock
on
the
wall
hasn't
worked
in
a
long
time,
so
it's
now
5,
30.
and
I
will
read
the
opening
statement.
Welcome
to
the
Salt
Lake
City
Planning
Commission.
Today's
date
is
September
13th.
The
Planning
Commission
consists
of
residents
from
each
Salt
Lake
City
District
that
are
appointed
in
a
manner
providing
balanced,
Geographic,
professional
neighborhood
and
Community
interest
representation,
the
Planning
Commission
reviews
and
acts
on
any
changes
to
the
city's
General
plans.
Small
area
plans,
special
studies,
zoning
ordinances
and
Zoning
District
Maps.
A
Our
first
item
is
the
report
of
the
chair
and
I
have
nothing
to
report,
except
that
we
have
two
new
planning
Commissioners
with
us.
Today
we
have
Turner
bitten
and
from
from
District
Two
and
Carlos
Santos
Riviera
from
District
three,
so
we
welcome
them.
Does
the
vice
chair
have
anything
to
report?
No,
we
will
move
on
to
the
report
of
the
director.
B
You
may
have
seen
an
email
blast
go
out
earlier,
so
we're
working
on
amendments
to
21a50,
a
new
title
19
and
some
amendments
to
title
18..
All
of
these
policy
changes
are
coming
out
of
the
thriving
and
place
study
that
just
went
to
council
for
a
briefing
yesterday
we
have
three
upcoming
open
houses.
B
A
C
C
We
do
have
more
room
to
comment
on
some
of
the
larger
issues
that
come
before
us,
such
as
plan
developments,
development
agreements,
those
sorts
of
things,
but
projects
permitted
by
right
are
not
brought
before
us
for
review
and
if
they
do
come
before
us
and
they're
permitted
by
right,
they
are
asking
generally
for
variances
from
zoning
ordinances
or
wealth
from
zoning
ordinance.
So
that
would
be
things
like
height
of
the
building
setbacks
or
parking
requirements,
and
often
with
parking.
C
We've
got
folks
that
comment
and
ask
for
there
to
be
increased
parking
at
projects,
and
we
make
note
of
those
comments.
But
for
the
most
part,
when
we
have
someone
coming
in
front
of
us
they're
asking
for
relief
from
that
requirement
and
that
they
would
like
to
have
fewer
parking
spots
for
a
project
or
have
parking
spots
that
are
on
adjacent
property
and
having
that
approved.
C
It
was
concerning
a
project
that
was
almost
all
affordable
housing
units,
some
that
were
quite
large
to
be
able
to
house
families
and
included
some
units
dedicated
for
unsheltered
persons.
It's
disappointing
to
me
that
we
have
a
single
homeless
shelter
in
the
state
and
that
that
shelter
is
religiously
based
private
in
nature
and
at
times
requires
folks
taking
shelter
there
to
participate
in
activities
they
may
not
otherwise
choose
to
participate
in.
C
We
also
have
some
developments
that
have
built
been
built
specifically
for
this
purpose:
Magnolia
Palmer
court
and
Wendell
Apartments,
which
there
may
be
others
that
I'm
not
aware
of
those
provide
about
298
units
for
unsheltered
folks,
but
other
places
that
are
available
are
primarily
resources.
Resource
Centers
in
Utah,
based
on
my
research.
We
have
about
11
out
of
10
000
individuals
that
are
unsheltered,
and
that
rate
is
increasing
at
about
10
to
14
percent
per
year,
and
we
are
estimated
at
any
given
time
at
ten
thousand
to
twelve
thousand
Statewide.
C
The
individuals,
individuals
that
are
unsheltered
are
only
48
percent
of
the
population.
That
means
the
rest
are
families
48
of
the
people
who
are
unsheltered
have
a
disability
for
which
they
do
not
have
sufficient
Medical,
Care
and
may
not
have
disability
benefits
because
they
haven't
had
the
advantage
of
legal
counsel.
36
percent
have
mental
health
disorders
and
because
of
their
financial
and
employment
status,
do
not
have
resources
or
benefits
to
address
those
disorders.
C
So
this
housing
shortage
affects
those
in
the
lowest
income
brackets,
which
includes
single
parents,
veterans
who
are
often
disabled
and
their
pension
is
not
sufficient
to
meet
their
needs.
Youth,
runaways
and
those
kicked
out
of
their
homes.
Often,
youth
runaways
are
running
away
from
severely
abusive
situations
and
can
be
kicked
out
because
of
beliefs,
lack
thereof,
sexual
and
gender
orientation
or
drug
use.
C
That's
often
due
to
a
failure
for
these
youth
to
be
offered
sufficient,
Mental,
Health
Resources,
as
well
so
in
the
community
when
we're
talking
about
affordable
housing
or
figuring
out
how
to
house
unsheltered
individuals
we're
talking
about
our
grocery
store
workers,
our
postal
workers,
laborers
recreational
Protective,
Service
workers,
teaching
assistants,
child
care,
workers,
substitute
teachers
and
so
receiving
comments
about
how
these
folks
will
ruin
property
values
or
lower
property
values
or
ruin.
The
properties
on
which
they
live
is
wholly
inappropriate.
C
So,
at
the
same
time
that
we
have
these
kinds
of
comments
about
affordable
housing
and
unsheltered
issues,
we
do
have
people
come
in
wanting
alleys
vacated
or
more
protections
against
quote
unquote,
homeless,
people
which
I
would
suggest
their
home
is
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Utah
or
the
state
of
Utah
as
a
whole.
They
simply
do
not
have
shelter,
which
is,
in
fact
a
basic
need
of
human
survival.
They
have
valid
concerns
about
drug
drug
use,
but
I
think
we
have
to
remember.
C
Drug
use
is
not
going
to
go
away
unless
we
as
a
community,
decide
to
go
back
to
the
core
values
of
respecting
Humanity,
loving
neighbors
Sheltering,
those
who
need
it
and
provide
mental
health
care
so
that
folks
are
not
looking
to
self-medicate
in
any
way
that's
available
to
them.
I
think
if
we
are
looking
at
11
unsheltered
persons
per
10,
000
people,
10
000
of
us
should
be
able
to
find
a
way
to
help
those
11.
and
I
just
think.
C
I
I
just
can't
tolerate
the
kinds
of
comments
like
I'm
all
for
affordable
housing,
but
not
in
my
neighborhood.
If
these
types
of
people
live
here,
it's
going
to
make
me
frightened
for
my
children,
these
types
of
people
are
our
neighbors,
so
I
just
had
to
elaborate
on
that.
A
little
bit
because
I
think
as
a
city,
housing
is
one
of
our
biggest
concerns
when
I
walk
the
streets
of
Salt,
Lake
and
I
go
to
several
big
cities
in
a
year
for
travel
for
work.
C
Salt
Lake
City
has
more
visible,
unheal
helped
unsheltered
folks
than
in
many
of
these
major
cities
and
I.
Just
think.
It's
a
shame
and
I
hope
we
can
return
to
some
of
those
values
that
our
state
was
founded
on,
which
is
that
we
take
care
of
each
other
and
love
each
other.
Regardless
of
our
circumstances.
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D
E
A
A
E
Right
so
the
the
circumstances
have
changed.
The
property
owner
has
put
in
a
written
request
to
withdraw
his
application
for
plan
development,
and
so
we
can't
discuss
the
item
or
hold
a
public
hearing,
so
unfortunately,
this
is
bad
timing.
This
is
unusual.
This
doesn't
happen
very
often
and
we
would
have
liked
to
hopefully
have
this
information
in
our
hands
a
week
ago,
10
days
ago,
but
this
happened
within
the
last
few
hours,
so
I'm,
sorry
for
anybody
who
traveled
here
and
took
your
time
to
come
out
here,
but
we
unfortunately
can't
discuss
the
item.
A
And
unless
we
have
any
other
last
minute
changes,
that's
going
to
be
the
only
change
the
agenda.
We
will
go
ahead
to
the
consent
agenda.
Our
two
items
on
the
consent
agenda
are
the
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
from
our
last
meeting
and
also
modifications
to
a
design
review
at
approximately
1050
South
Washington
Street,
which
is
plnpcm
2022-01
165.
A
G
A
F
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
thought
so.
The
issue
we've
had
in
the
past
is
some
Commissioners
haven't
been
present
for
the
previous
meeting
and
so
cannot
consent
to
the
minutes.
We
today
we
in
particular
have
two
new
Commissioners
who
were
certainly
not
at
the
last
meeting.
We
in
this
circumstance
may
need
separate
votes.
E
A
H
C
I
J
A
D
G
L
A
M
M
M
M
The
yalecrest
National
Historic
district
has
the
highest
concentration
of
period
Revival
homes
in
the
state
of
Utah,
66,
Homes,
68
properties,
as
I
mentioned,
63
of
the
66
homes
in
the
local
in
the
proposed
District
are
con,
are
considered
contributing,
meaning
that
they
are
largely
intact
and
that
they
contribute
to
the
historic
fabric
of
that
neighborhood.
So
that's
95
percent,
very,
very
high
percentage.
M
This
is
the
designation
process
and,
right
now
we
are
on
step
number
seven.
The
commission
meetings
this
project,
Was
Heard
by
the
Historic
Landmark
commission
last
Thursday
evening.
They
voted
unanimously
to
forward
on
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
approve
the
district
following
this
meeting
tonight.
Should
you
make
a
recommendation?
The
public
support
ballot
will
be
mailed
out,
and
that
is
essentially
a
vote
of
the
property
owners,
yay
or
nay,
for
the
district.
M
L
M
M
A
Let's
see
we
we
haven't
received
any
public
comment
cards
on
it,
but
I
I
will
read
our
our
opening
statement.
Regarding
regarding
public
comments,
our
goal
is
to
provide
a
welcoming
and
safe
environment
for
everyone.
We
ask
that
those
in
attendance
adhere
to
a
few
ground
rules,
one
silence
or
turn
off
your
cell
phones,
two
respect
the
person
speaking
and
do
not
interrupt
or
do
other
things
that
could
intimidate
or
deter
others
from
exercising
the
right
to
be
heard.
A
Clapping,
jeering,
shouting
and
other
actions
used
to
discourage
people
who
have
different
opinions
from
participating
will
not
be
tolerated.
People
who
attempt
to
diminish
someone
else's
input
may
be
removed
from
the
room.
If
you
do
wish
to
speak,
come
to
the
microphone
once
the
public
hearing
has
been
opened
and
state
your
name,
members
of
the
public
will
have
two
minutes
to
comment.
Your
time
cannot
be
combined
with
someone
else's
time.
Everyone
will
get
the
same
amount
of
time
to
speak
so
that
we
can
ensure
everyone
is
treated
equally.
A
If
you
are
representative
of
an
officially
recognized
organization
and
the
item
you
wish
to
speak
on
is
within
the
boundaries
of
your
organization,
you
will
be
given
five
minutes.
If
it
is
outside
of
your
boundaries,
you
will
be
given
two
minutes
four.
If
you
have
a
handout
that
you
want
the
commission
to
see,
you
will
need
to
leave
copies
because
they
will
become
part
of
the
legal
record.
A
Five,
when
commenting
speak,
clearly
keep
your
comments
on
topic.
In
brief,
six
questions
asked
during
a
public
hearing
will
not
be
answered
during
the
public
hearing.
Rather,
the
commission
may
ask
the
applicant
or
staff
to
answer
questions
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
or
ask
City
staff
to
follow
up
with
you
at
a
later
time.
A
E
A
A
D
N
This
large
tree-lined
Rolling
Hill
area
contains
66
houses
of
which
95
are
considered
historically
contributing
Laird
Heights,
as
has
also
is
also
listed
as
a
national,
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places.
So
why
create
an
lhd
for
Laird
Heights
as
neighbors?
We
take
pride
in
the
uniqueness
and
Charming
streetscapes
of
Laird
Heights.
We
want
to
preserve
these
and
the
historical
significance.
Layered
height
contributes
to
the
city.
N
For
example,
Jake
Garn,
mayor
of
Salt
Lake,
City,
U.S,
senator
Navy
pilot
and
Astronaut
grew
up
in
yalecrest
neighborhood
and
lived
on
Laird
Avenue
as
an
adult
with
his
family.
As
you
know,
he
became
the
first
sitting
member
of
Congress
to
fly
into
space
and
flew
aboard
while
he
flew
aboard
the
Space
Shuttle
Discovery
in
1985.
N
Abe
Jenkins
lived
in
Uinta
Circle
for
many
years.
During
the
1930s
Abe
was
the
24th
mayor
of
Salt
Lake
and
a
professional
race
car
driver.
He
was
instrumental
in
establishing
the
Bonneville
South
Flats
as
the
Bonneville
Salt
Flats
as
the
as
a
world
class
racing
venue.
He
held
the
land
speed
record
of
161
plus
mile
miles
per
hour
with
his
car.
N
The
Mormon
meteor
for
50
years
between
1940
and
1990
were
the
the
period
the
Mormon
meteor
was
displayed
for
decades
up
at
the
U.S
Capitol
and
now
as
part
of
the
price
Museum
speed
here
in
Salt
Lake
City,
the
lhd
designation
would
minimize
a
demolition
of
existing
historical
homes
in
our
community.
The
designation
is
the
proposed,
as
the
proposed
layer
highs
as
a
layer
as
lhd
is
consistent
with
City
policies,
encouraging
preservation
of
physical
structures
and
cultural
history.
N
N
A
O
O
I
had
the
Good
Fortune
to
be
neighbors
with
four
of
the
families
that
were
original
or
early
residents
of
homes
on
you
in
a
circle
they
were
lifelong
residents
in
1980,
Mrs,
Gaddis
and
Mrs
Boyden
lived
alone.
Both
the
Romney
family
and
the
petty
Strasser
family
had
raised
multiple
Generations
in
their
homes.
By
that
time,
my
lovely
neighbors
built
their
homes
raised
their
children
planted
flowers
and
vegetables
Gardens
and
trees.
They
served
as
leaders
in
their
various
and
varied
work
and
Community
organizations,
as
did
many
others.
D
P
Today,
at
my
house,
I
had
a
carpenter
working
on
replacing
the
doors
like
1980s
doors,
with
single
panel
doors
and
glass
knobs
like
they
would
have
been
back,
then
it's
also
a
very
walkable
neighborhood
and
people
are
outside
talking
to
their
neighbors
It's.
A
Wonderful
example
I
think
of
a
historic
neighborhood
that
it
I
think
is
sort
of
a
gift
to
the
city,
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
for
what
life
was
like
a
hundred
years
ago.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Q
I'm,
a
mechanical
engineer
who
makes
95th
plus
percentile
wage
of
this
country
and
I
couldn't
afford
to
live
in
that
neighborhood.
It's
a
beautiful
area,
I
love
it
I'd
love
to
walk
around
areas
like
this
I
love
to
visit
friends
in
areas
like
this
I
have
no
no
issue
with
the
existence
of
areas
like
this
I.
Just
think
that
housing's
real
expensive
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
families
will
not
be
moving
into
these
areas
unless
they
have
two
lawyers
in
that
family
or
similar
house
Constitution.
So
that's
it.
Thank
you.
R
A
We'll
have
our
staff
member
address
that,
after
we
close
public
hearing
anyone
else,
seeing
no
one
else
have
we
received
any
emails
in
the
meantime.
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
item
and
we
will
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
to
ask
questions
of
our
staff
member
on
this
and
also
the
applicant.
If
we
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant
also
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we
will
be
forwarding
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
on
this.
So
the
decision
that
we
make
is
not
the
final
decision.
G
Sure
the
meteor
was
on
display
at
the
U.S,
Capitol
and
I
know
for
sure
it
was
on
the
Utah
capital
for
a
really
long
time,
so
I
think
that's
where
it
was,
but
it
happens
because
the
U.S
Capitol
was
played
by
the
Utah
capital
in
Legally
Blonde,
so
they're
quite
similar.
It
can
happen
and
I
would
also
like
to
hear.
Maybe
if
staff
can
tell
us
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
will
be
different
about
this
block,
if
it
it
becomes
a
local
historic
district.
M
Essentially,
all
of
the
local
districts
are
also
on
the
national
register
in
terms
of
what
people
can
and
can't
do
this
when,
when
a
local
historic
district
is
designated,
any
sort
of
modifications
to
the
exterior
of
the
homes,
buildings
and
or
the
property
are
subject
to
review
by
the
city
for
historic
appropriateness.
And
so,
if
you
want
to
re-roof
your
house
change
out
windows,
repair,
Windows,
repair,
stucco
do
do
additions,
do
accessory
structures.
Any
of
those
types
of
things
would
fall
under
review.
M
M
F
Can
I
just
ask
a
follow-up
question?
Like
so
city
council
discussed,
changing
our
I
realize
it's
in
progress
to
change
our
minimum
lot
sizes
and
allow
potentially
up
to
two
units
per
lot.
The
goal
of
designating
local
historic
districts
is
to
make
it
more
difficult
to
demolish
an
existing
structure.
Is
that
an
accurate
characterization
I.
F
B
B
F
If
there
was
something
passed
to
allow,
say
four
units
per
lot
and
a
developer
decided
to
demol
the
only
way
to
accomplish
for
say,
town
home
units
on
that
size
lot
was
to
demolish
the
existing
structure.
It
would
seem
difficult
within
the
local
historic
districts
to
achieve
this,
if
the,
if
the
only
way
of
producing
new
housing,
is
to
remove
an
existing
structure
entirely.
B
Yeah
yeah,
you
could
develop
in
the
rear.
I
wasn't
saying
yes
to
you
or
saying
yes
to
John,
sorry,
but
yeah
you
could
develop
behind
the
house.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
goal
is
to
try
to
keep
historic
structures,
which
was
one
of
the
priority
goals
in
the
RMF
30,
which
was
like
a
reward
right.
You
you
keep
the
existing
structure,
you
get
an
additional
unit
and
you
can
accommodate
that.
J
B
G
I
I
wanted
to
comment
that
you
can
learn
a
lot
about
local
historic
districts
by
watching
some
of
the
landmark
meetings,
Landmark
hearings,
because
it's
it
seems
like
people
really
like
being
able
to
tell
their
neighbors
what
they
can
and
can't
do
at
their
house.
But
when
it
comes
to
what
you
can
do
with
your
own
house,
you
may
you
may
want
to
think
about.
G
C
I
have
a
quick
comment:
chair
I
I
am
in
favor
of
this
because
I'm
in
favor
of
preserving
historic
architecture
and
preserving
character
within
the
city
and
recognizing
that
there's
a
small
cultural
component
to
having
an
area
designated
as
a
historic
preservation
area.
I
just
want
to
say
the
importance
to
the
to
me
on
this.
Is
that
we're
preserving
historical
architecture
and
character.
The
history
of
who
lived
in
what
house
does
not
matter.
We
can
keep
that
those
records
elsewhere
and
frankly,
those
types
of
things
to
me.
C
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
surprise,
come
across
as
elitist
because
those
houses
have
come
down
over
generations
to
folks
who
have
privilege,
over
and
above
that
that
others
have
had
so.
My
decision,
I
want
to
be
clear,
is
not
based
on
any
kind
of
history
of
any
individual
structure,
but
is
is
in
terms
of
the
overall
goal
of
preserving
history
and
Arthur
and
the
character
of
the
city.
D
G
F
I
E
F
Findings
in
the
staff
report
and
the
information
presented
discussion
I
move
that
the
commission
forward
a
negative
recommendation
to
the
city
council
regarding
the
request
to
designate
a
new
local
historic
district,
Yale
pressed
Laird
Heights
for
the
following
reasons:
I
find
it
to
be
inconsistent
with
goals
three
through
five
of
plan
through
Salt
Lake;
those
refer
to
our
housing,
transportation
and
air
quality
goals.
I
also
find
it
to
be
inconsistent
with
housing,
SLC
and
thriving
in
place.
F
F
L
G
Of
the
delightful
things
about
this
neighborhood
is
the
trees,
they're
big,
huge
tons
of
trees
and
every
single
Street
in
our
city
should
have
big
huge
tons
of
trees.
Every
single
Street,
every
corner,
every
neighborhood
should
say.
Oh
my
gosh
Come
See
this
trees
on
my
street,
and
that
would
be
that
would
make
a
huge
difference
for
all
of
the
things
that
are
important
to
us.
So
I
think
that's,
let's.
G
T
K
L
A
U
S
T
U
All
right,
this
is
a
petition
for
a
zoning
map
and
master
plan
Amendment
at
simondian,
300
North,
we'll
start
with
just
the
property
location.
The
subject
properties
are
four
properties
along
simondi
Ave
and
four
properties
along
300
North.
The
current
zoning
is
r17000,
which
is
a
single
family,
residential
Zone
and
they
are
proposing
to
rezone
to
RMF
30,
which
is
a
low
density
multi-family
residential
Zone.
U
As
you
can
see
from
the
map
here,
you
can
see
that
the
overall
vicinity
of
the
property
and
the
neighborhood
is
mostly
single-family
residential.
With
some
multi-family
across
the
street
on
800
West.
It
is
nearby
a
school
there's
recreation
in
the
area
like
the
Jordan,
River,
Parkway
and
Mobility
options.
There's
the
900
West
bus
that
goes
straight
to
downtown
and
a
300
North
bike
lane.
That
also
goes
straight
to
downtown.
It
is
near
two
tracks
on
North
Temple,
including
that
commercial
Corridor
and
also
has
easy
access
to
the
highway.
U
U
U
So
just
to
visually,
compare
the
types
of
housing
that's
allowed
between
zones
and
the
r17000.
Obviously,
only
single
family
detached
are
allowed
and
in
the
RMF
30
Zone
you
can
have
single
family
detached
or
you
can
have
single
family
attached
like
a
town
home
or
a
row.
House
Twin
Homes
are
allowed
multi-family
apartment
complexes
and
cottage
style
homes
and
tiny
houses
are
also
included.
U
So
when
we
think
back
to
the
half
acre
and
the
0.44
Acres
on
each
side
or
a
total
of
I,
think
it's
40
000
square
feet
for
the
entire
development,
we're
talking
approximately
20
units
for
the
entire
development.
If
they
choose
to
do
one
of
these
housing
types,
and
it
would
be
up
to
24
units
if
they
only
did
tiny
homes
or
Cottage
sale
homes
throughout
the
entire
development.
U
U
The
purpose
of
the
arm
of
30
zone
is
to
provide
a
variety
of
housing
that
fits
the
scale
and
character
of
the
surrounding
development,
including
single-family
residential
neighborhoods
design
standards
help.
This
help
ensure
that
good
architecture
and
urban
design
standards
are
followed
in
development.
U
V
V
Yeah,
so
that
one's
fine,
so
this
is
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
not
really
100
positive
until
we
get
the
resulting
what
we're
going
to
do,
but
our
initial
plan
is
to
come
up
with
town
homes,
and
so
we've
got
we've
been
playing
with
different
ideas.
Doing
some
normal
stick,
builds
we've
been
looking
at
container
homes
and
so
in
in
trying
to
get
affordable
housing.
V
V
The
photos
and
I'm
sending
them
around
right
now
is
some
photos
that
were
what
what's
been
there
and
I
can't
speak
on
to
how
long
it's
been
in
that
condition.
Maria
could
but
I
know
I've
been
with
the
organization
coming
up
on
12
years,
and
this
area
has
been
ran
down,
the
houses
were
boarded
up,
they
were
being
broken
into,
the
garage
was
collapsing,
and
so
this
area
has
been
really
ran
down
for
a
long
time
and
we've
actually
been
looking
at
this
property
for
a
long
time.
V
Trying
to
you
know
see
if
we
can
acquire
it
and
so
much
that
we
were
concerned
that
another
developer
was
going
to
come
in
and
do
the
high-rise
units
like
you're,
seeing
that's
popping
up
all
over
on
the
west
side,
so
we're
trying
to
actually
protect
our
neighborhood
by
putting
in
town
homes
in
there,
instead
of
letting
you
know
a
higher
density
building
going
on
over
there.
So,
and
so
one
of
the
ideas
that
we
have
is
is
what's
up
on
the
holidays.
V
That
is
not
what
we've
decided
on
it's
just
that's
just
you
know
for
for
presentation,
and
what
we
would
do
is
when
we
do
decide
which
direction
we're
going
as
far
as
what
time
town
home
style
we're
going
to
do
where
we
would
look
at
the
neighborhood,
we
would
look
at
the
exteriors
on
the
existing
homes
and
try
to
get
something
that
is
fitting
and
fits
in
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
So
it
doesn't
like
stand
out
from
what's
already
there.
V
V
V
Yeah-
and
this
is
just
another
layout
design
that
another
Builder
did
for
us
very
similar.
It
just
shows
the
row
houses
that
they
were
talking
about
earlier
and
so
yeah
we're
just
trying
to
do
something
good
for
the
neighborhood
that
that
fits
in
and
trying
to
come
up
with.
You
know,
affordable
housing
for
you
guys
and
so.
F
H
H
T
So
if
I
may
Commissioners
good
evening,
Maria
Garcia's
I'm
the
CEO,
with
neighborworks
Salt
Lake
for
those
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
the
organization
we've
been
in
that
Community
for
a
little
over
30
years
and
have
developed
most
of
the
the
units
in
the
Guadalupe
neighborhood
in
the
Jackson
neighborhood.
So
over
100
units
and
I-15
is
yes,
a
risk
to
Jackson
neighborhood,
which
is
where
this
property
is,
but
it's
actually
two
blocks
away
from
the
I-15
I.
T
Think
the
only
other
thing
if
I'm
a
chairperson
mention,
is
that
neighborworks
has
been
focused
on
acquiring
this
property
for
a
little
over
15
years.
We
overpaid
for
this
property
because
it
was
a
way
for
us
to
protect
high
density,
going
into
that.
Neighborhood
I
think
we're
excited
about
the
property.
The
neighbors
are
excited,
I.
Think
they're
just
concerned
about
what
we're
planning
to
put
there
we're
not
yet
sure
on
what
the
final
design
will
be,
but
we
have
been
working
with
some
Architects
to
again
take
in
the
characteristics
of
what's
in
the
neighborhood.
T
How
can
we
build
these
homes
for
under
400
000,
hopefully
as
an
affordable
development?
We'll
look
at
putting
some
of
these
into
our
community
Land
Trust,
so
that
we
can
help
families
that
are
60
and
below.
So
we
do
appreciate
the
city
staff
working
with
us
on
figuring
out
how
we,
how
we
rezone
this.
A
W
W
Residential
development
for
17
years
and
I
am
very
much
in
support
of
neighborworks
and
their
mission
and
I
also
believe
that
the
zone
change
should
not
receive
a
positive
recommendation
today,
based
mainly
on
the
fact
that
this
is
the
first
plans
we've
seen
when
I
talked
to
David
Foster
I
got
mixed
messages
about
what
the
actual
plans
were
going
to
be.
The
public
utilities,
including
Water
and
Sewer,
will
be
impacted
in
the
neighborhood
requiring
off-site
upsizing,
which
the
development
review
confirmed.
W
That's
the
biggest
concern
that
I
have
and
spot
zoning
small
islands
like
this
rmf-30
surrounding
it
by
single
family
they're,
surrounded
by
single-family.
Zoning
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
neighborhood,
and,
what's
not
highlighted
in
the
presentation
is
that
the
purpose
of
rmf-30
is
low
density.
According
to
the
title
21A
zoning
ordinance
is
to
quote,
provide
a
transition
between
single-family
housing
and
larger
multi-family
housing
developments,
and
this
isn't
creating
a
transition
between
large
or
high
density
and
single
family.
It's
just
going
to
expand
and
already
expand
the
this
island
and
spot
Zone.
W
X
X
Let's
just
a
side
note
that
I
feel
strongly
that
the
developers
present
a
building
plan.
They
seem
there
was
a
lot
of
unsures
there,
and
could
you
go
back
to
the
picture?
It
was
on
the
board
of
the
that's
theirs
that
in
no
way
represents
our
neighborhood.
There's
no
pitched
roofs.
There's
no
porch.
Could
you
go
back
to
the
other
picture,
the
ones
back
not
to
their
plan,
but
the
the
other
unsure
plants?
X
A
J
J
G
Y
I
have
a
question
regarding
to
the
existing
conditions
of
this
particular
Parcels
I,
wonder
about
any
existing
traffic
reports
that
have
been
done
by
the
city
to
say
anything
that
I
can
refer
to.
If
you
can,
please
just
inform
us
about
the
current
conditions
when
it
comes
to
traffic
in
this
area.
Thank
you.
U
Both
800
watts
and
900
West
are
pretty
wide
corridors
that
can
accommodate
quite
a
bit
of
traffic,
as
is
300
north
and
I
know
that
everyone
is
always
worried
about
parking
in
these
developments.
All
the
units
are
required
to
have
at
least
one
off-street
parking,
if
not
two,
in
most
cases,
depending
on
the
housing
type.
So
they
are
required
to
provide
that
off-street
parking
and,
like
I
said
there
is
access
to
tracks
to
the
South
and
there's
a
very
like
direct
downtown
bus
right
on
900
West.
L
So
I
just
want
to
make
some
general
comments
at
this
time.
You
know
when
we
receive
a
requests
for
a
zoning
change
without
an
actual
plan.
Sometimes
that
raises
concerns
that
can
really
not
be
satisfied
by
the
review
in
the
staff
report,
because
then
we're
left
to
look
at
what
could
happen
and
sometimes
what
could
happen
is
drastically
different
than
the
current
zone.
L
So,
when
I
look
at
the
difference
between
the
R1
7000
to
the
RMF
30
Zone
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
difference
so
in
height
28
feet
to
30
feet
whether
that
becomes
two
stories
or
three
stories
at
some
point
has
some
irrelevancy
because
we're
looking
at
how
tall?
Can
you
build
this
with
RMF
30
being
a
medium
density?
Only
you
said
20
units
20
type
buildings
could
actually
be
on
these
particular
Parcels
combined,
and
that
seems
a
pretty
low
transition.
L
I
mean
obviously
not
as
low
as
if
you
just
had
you
know
four
homes,
but
we're
not
gonna
house
a
lot
of
people
with
that
and
I
live
in
a
rmf-45,
Zone
and
I
live
adjacent
to
really
low
density,
medium
density
and
high
density.
So
I
see
how
those
interact-
just
fine
in
my
neighborhood
but
I-
understand
that
something
new
and
something
that
we
don't
know
exactly.
What
it
is
can
be
a
little
frustrating.
L
So
if
we
look
at
the
differences
between
what's
proposed
and
what
is
we
are
going
to
see
very
much,
a
pretty
similar
side,
yard
setback,
front
yard,
setbacks,
they're,
they're
negligible
in
those
differences
and
the
height
is
going
to
be
the
same
within
two
feet.
The
Cassie
provided
the
types
of
off-street
parking,
that's
required,
based
on
the
different
types
of
uses
and
again
yeah
they're,
going
to
have
to
provide
up
to
sometimes
to
off-story
parking
spaces
for
every
unit
that
they
build.
C
C
Even
if
we
have
plans
in
front
of
us
that
someone
is
proposing,
we
have
no
guarantee
and
there's
nothing
holding
them
to
those
plans,
and
so
it
would
be
extremely
unusual
to
require
a
set
of
definite
plans
when
we
are
just
looking
at
a
potential
zoning
change.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that,
because
I
think
we
often
hear
from
Neighbors
I
want
to
know
exactly
what's
going
in,
but
guess
what
we
never
do
when
you
have
a
Zone
and
people
own
their
property,
you
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it.
C
L
The
potential
proposal
that
would
happen
would
ultimately
come
back
before
so
it
was
a
plan
development
Etc,
but
in
the
RMF
30
Zone,
a
planned
development
can
be
administratively
approved
and
wouldn't
necessarily
come
back
before
us,
so
I
do
think.
Sometimes
the
absence
of
a
plan
can
be
a
little
concerning.
L
So
that's
why
I
always
am
going
to
really
default
is
like
what
could
you
do?
Would
I
be
comfortable
with
what
you
could
do
and
in
an
RMF
30
with
those
rule
changes?
We
may
not
see
that
come
back
before
us,
but
we
may
also
so
the
question
I
think
for
me,
and
perhaps
fellow
Commissioners
would
be,
is
whatever
the
potential
development
still.
L
You
know
adhering
to
the
standards
into
the
plan,
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
master
plan
or
the
other
overarching
housing
plans
within
the
city
and
does
the
differences
in
the
two
zones?
Is
it
too
drastic,
because
we
may
not
see
a
plan
development
come
before
us?
If
this,
if
the
city
council
approves
us
to
be
an
RMF
30.,
so
there's
no
guarantee
that
whatever
an
applicant
may
do
is
going
to
always
land
before
us
again
to
review
but
oftentimes.
L
If
it's
big
enough,
especially
if
the
differences
in
zoning
is,
is
very
drastic,
then
then
there
are
different
mechanisms
that
those
would
obviously
come
back
before
us
for
review
for
whatever
reason,
but
this
one
I
think
we
can't
guarantee
that.
But
the
question
then
becomes:
are
you
comfortable
with
what
could
be
allowed
in
the
rmf-30
zone
based
on
the
table
in
the
staff
report?.
Y
A
I
F
G
G
A
A
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
A
AA
AA
So
to
give
a
little
bit
of
site
context,
this
shows
the
zoning
map.
Here
as
it
stands,
these
three
properties
are
r17000,
surrounded
by
CB
on
two
sides:
R1
twelve
thousand
across
13
South,
open
space
to
the
East
and
here's
an
image
of
the
three
homes
that
are
currently
on
the
property
that
are
all
in
common
ownership
currently,
and
they
are
all
used
as
rentals
at
the
moment.
AA
AA
AA
AA
Looking
at
the
lot
in
bulk
differences
between
the
r17000
and
the
CB
Zone,
the
maximum
Building
height
is
similar
to
the
last
one.
You
looked
at
just
two
feet:
30
feet
instead
of
the
current
28
feet,
but
that
would
allow
for
an
additional
story
and
then
there's
no
front
or
side
yard
setbacks
versus
the
20
and
10
front
and
side
setbacks
of
the
r17000.
AA
AA
In
looking
at
this,
we
also
look
at
how
the
request
complies
with
the
master
plan
objectives,
and
so
we
look
at
the
planned
Salt
Lake
and
it
does
support
initiatives
in
neighborhoods
growth
and
housing
by
potentially
allowing
a
Zone
would
allow
for
greater
density
of
housing,
but,
and
that
would
also
allow
for
small-scale
commercial.
That
would
make
a
more
complete
neighborhood.
AA
AA
It
is
part
of
the
East
bench
master
plan
and
looking
at
that
plan,
it
does
support
various
initiatives
in
there,
first
and
foremost,
to
provide
a
diverse
mix
of
housing
choices
for
all
life
stages.
So
again,
and
the
area
is
predominantly
single
family
and
this
would
provide
for
some
additional
options
and
then
there's
also
commentary
in
there
about
targeting
Foothill
Drive
for
mixed
use
and
medium
density,
residential
and
again.
AA
If
this
were
to
be
approved,
it
could
combine
with
the
property
adjacent
to
it,
which
would
then
connect
it
to
Foothill
Drive,
and
so
we
see
that
as
a
good
opportunity
to
complete
this
initiative
and
then
again,
it's
creating
a
people-oriented
development
at
a
community
level
compatible
with
adjacent
neighborhoods,
which
really
is
the
CB
zone,
is
probably
the
best
Zone
to
be
able
to
do.
That.
AA
AA
So
looking
at
this
other
potential
concerns,
either
from
Neighbors
or
in
the
considerations
for
a
zoning
Tech
zoning
Amendment,
we
look
at
the
compatibility
again
in
the
additional
height
really
is
not
too
different
than
what's
currently
allowed.
There
is.
There
was
some
concern
about
parking
and
traffic,
but
I
provided
a
breakdown
of
the
different
types
of
streets
and
their
purposes
within
your
staff
report.
But
it's
important
to
notice.
AA
2300
East
is
a
local
Street
which
would
have
the
lowest,
usually
the
lowest
use,
and
then
1300
South
is
a
collector
Street,
which
this
type
of
scale
of
development
would
be
appropriate
along
a
collector
and
then
Foothill
Drive
if
it
were
to
connect
to
that
as
an
arterial
which
provides
the
highest
level
of
movement
traffic
movement,
and
so
this
potentially
could
Connect
into
all
those
being
an
appropriate
scale
for
the
surrounding
roads.
Also,
the
CB
zone
is
part
of
the
Neighborhood
Center
Parking
context
and
I
know
those
are
slightly
new
to
everyone's
steel.
AA
If,
if
a
property
is
rezoned
to
allow
for
something
else,
then
they
need
to
meet
the
requirement
for
housing
loss
mitigation,
which
this
property
is
proposing
to
do
through
a
development
agreement.
That
agreement
has
not
yet
been
recorded,
but
has
been
prepared
and
would
replace
at
least
three
units
of
housing
should
these
ones
be
demolished
in
the
future,
and
with
that
steps
recommending
approval,
subject
to
that
development
agreement
being
recorded
and
finding
that
it
does
meet
the
standards
for
a
zoning
map
Amendment
and
it
fills
the
intent
of
adopted
plans
and
policies.
AB
I'm
Tyler
Morris
I
work
with
Cottonwood
residential
working
as
representative
for
the
owner
of
the
property
here,
I,
don't
have
a
ton
to
add
to
the
presentation
that
was
provided
by
staff
I
think
they
hit
most
of
the
points
that
we
think
of
as
as
Jermaine
here
as
well.
You
know
this
little
pocket
of
of
these
three
existing
solar
family
homes
is
kind
of
wrapped
by
that
CB
Zone
and
is
is
a
bit
of
an
oddity
and
that
little
wedge
or
pocket
of
of
the
city.
AB
Here
you
know
immediately
to
the
west
of
the
westernmost
house.
Is
it
Wendy's
drive-through,
that's
connected
to
that
gas
station
which
goes
10
feet
away
from
the
house
on
the
west
side?
You
know
to
the
east.
You
have
the
cemetery
and
to
the
West
is
excuse
me
into
the
south,
is
kind
of
a
120
stall
surface
parking
lot
right
there,
as
Eric
mentioned
the
the
intent
here
you
know
this
is
the
the
same
owner
as
the
Red
Robin
site
to
the
South.
AB
The
scale
of
that,
given
the
restrictions
on
CB
would
be
pretty
similar
to
the
hotel
that
you
can
see
to
the
South
here.
You
know
at
30
feet
in
the
way
the
height
is
measured
with
the
amount
of
grade
chains
you
have
here.
You
really
capped
it
kind
of
two
two
and
a
half
above
ground
stories,
so
we
probably
have
a
Subterranean
level
of
parking
to
provide
the
kind
of
one
to
two
stall
of
the
parking
and
then
a
couple
of
levels
of
apartment.
AB
On
top
of
that,
it's
probably
on
the
50
to
75
unit
range
based
on
kind
of
what
you
could
fit
there
as
a
ballpark.
But
you
know
we.
We
view
this
side
as
a
great
opportunity
to
provide
some
additional
thoughtful
density
to
the
area.
Obviously
an
amenity,
Rich
corner
where
you
have
kind
of
retail
restaurants.
AB
You
know
good
Automotive
access
or
car
access
on
Foothill
good
access
to
the
bus
system,
but
you
know
not
kind
of
fixed
rail,
Rapid,
Transit
kind
of
stuff,
so
you
know
a
using
that
brings
in
a
new
variety
of
housing.
That's
a
little
underrepresented
in
that
area.
I
think
is
a
good
transitional
use
from
the
folks
to
the
South
into
the
kind
of
commercial
center
As
you
move
through
so
but
I'm
available
for
questions
or
comments
as
as
needed.
L
L
Yeah,
it's
massive
yeah,
and
so
then
my
question
then
for
staff
is
given
that
what
he
just
said
that
you
know
the
goal,
maybe
is
to
do
some
thoughtful
density
and
some
multi-family
housing.
Why
does
CB
continue
to
be
the
preferred
proposed
zone
change?
Is
there
a
different
Zone
that
could
accomplish
that
I
guess:
I'm
curious.
If
that's
the
goal
of
kind
of
multi-family,
some
density,
why
are
we
going
with
CB.
AA
L
Y
E
AB
AB
C
scale,
that's
in
the
area,
the
the
the
other
part
is
that
CB
does
present
the.
What
we
feel
like
is
an
appropriate
mixed-use
transitional,
fail
where
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
overreach
and
try
to
put
something:
that's
10
to
15
feet
taller
than
the
hotel,
that's
to
the
south
in
between
kind
of
single
family,
residential
and
where
this
is
here.
I
think
that
would
certainly
function
there
and
I
think
would
succeed.
AB
E
And
if
I
could
just
mention
I
think
CB
has
come
up
a
lot
recently
in
different
meetings.
I
think
context
makes
sense.
The
rest
is
block
is
also
that
the
CB
Zone,
also
probably
five
or
six
years
ago.
We
added
specific
design
standards
in
the
CB
Zone
to
help
make
it
more
compatible
with
neighborhoods,
and
we
set
size
limits
that
would
trigger
a
design
review
at
relatively
low
size.
E
So
that's
something
would
be
required
to
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
that
doesn't
it's
not
present
in
most
of
our
other
commercial
zones
and
so
I
think.
That's
one
reason
why
we've
we
felt
comfortable
using
the
CV
Zone
as
a
way
to
buffer
between
lower
density
and
then
obviously
like,
because
we're
getting
closer
to
Foothills
higher
density
projects.
L
AB
The
current
super
super
preliminary
expectation
is
that
the
restaurant
piece
would
stay
and
then
there
would
be
basically
like
a
double
loaded
parking
aisle
that
went
to
the
east
of
it.
That
would
service
primarily
that
restaurant
and
potentially
exit
on
the
13th
so
and
then
east
of
that
would
be
a
Subterranean
level
of
parking
underneath
the
apartment,
structure
and
you'd
have
kind
of
two
stories
on
top
of
it.
So
there
would
be
no
more
surface
parking
as
a
part
of
the
apartment
piece
just
about
40
or
50
stalls
that
would
serve
the
the
restaurant.
Okay.
L
L
L
Okay,
well,
I
have
I
hope
that
we're
in
this
case
I
try
to
hold
off
on
those.
You
know.
At
initial
reading
of
the
staff
report,
I
was
reluctant
to
do
a
CV
Zone,
because
one
of
my
worries
and
I
don't
think
that
it
does
really
jive
with
the
Spanish
master
plan
of
having
commercial
in
this
particular
parcel,
given
what
we've
seen
just
a
little
further
west
on
1300
South
for
some
of
the
commercial
like
restaurants
and
what
that
does
to
parking
and
traffic,
which
is
really
really
it's
a
big
impact.
L
Don't
think
that's
appropriate
and
I.
Don't
feel
that,
based
on
the
standards
of
those
guiding
principles
that
this
is
part
of
the
Foothill,
Drive,
Corridor
and
and
I
worry
about
the
the
impacts-
and
you
know
neighborhood
impacts
so
but
I
guess,
I
am
open
to
I
am
really
keen
on
seeing
that
big
surface
parking
lot
be
reused
for
something
more
appropriate
and
actually
useful
to
the
city
in
terms
of
Housing
and
the
community.
L
But
how
I
don't
know
how
we
can
ensure
that
we
won't
see
commercial
here,
because
I
don't
know
that
I
would
be
able
to
be
supportive
of
that.
So
I,
just
I'm
I'm
torn
because
I
like
what
you
say
your
intent
is.
But
but
what
could
happen
is
of
some
concern
to
me.
If,
then,
you
sold
it
and
the
next
person
was
like
no,
no
I
want
to
put
a
restaurant
here,
which
I
think
then
would
be
incompatible
with
the
standards
of
analysis
based
on
neighborhood
impacts
and
compatibility
to
the
expense
master
plan.
L
AA
Reminder
there
is
a
requirement
it
would
have
to
have
at
least
three
units
put
back
on.
So
if
that
was
economically
feasible
to
just
build
three
units,
that
would
be
surprising
but
yeah.
That
is
a
requirement
not
just
from
staff,
but
that's
part
of
the
standards
that
they
would
have
to
do
so,
regardless
three
units
would
need
to
be.
E
L
I
have
not
read
the
motion
yet
because
I
generally
don't
do
that
before
the
meeting.
But
does
the
motion
also
have
a
consideration
that
the
for
we
will
forward
X
type
of
recommendation?
And
let's
say
it's
positive:
that
is
there
then
a
contingency
on
that
motion
to
include
the
development
agreement
that
lists
housing,
replacement.
L
J
F
It
does
concern
me:
this
is
not
serviced
by
mass
transit
and
we're
adding
density
and
congestion.
If
there's
more
commercial,
you
know
I'm
always
kind
of
mixed,
because
I
know
the
city
doesn't
control.
All
of
our
mass
transit
is
sort
of
a
constant
frustration
that
we're
stuck
with
this
Transit
System.
F
Y
Am
I
add
to
that
I
I
agree
with
everything.
That's
being
said
right
now,
I
think
that
the
premise
is
that
the
applicant
has
not
stated
an
intended
for
the
proposal
for
this
property.
I
understand
that
there's
a
housing
mitigation
loss,
housing
mitigation
loss
agreement.
However,
my
fear
is
that
there's
currently
three
properties
they're
being
used
for
rental,
these
families
already
residing
there,
then
we're
just
gonna.
Y
Probably
you
know
make
this
even
smaller
units
for
additional.
You
know
redundant
other
units
right,
but
then
again
we
don't
know.
What's
going
to
be
the
use
for
this
property,
so
I
guess
like
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
the
order
of
the
ask
of
the
applicant,
perhaps
maybe
proposing
something
and
then
asking
for
some
sort
of
like
zoning
amendment
to
it,
but
just
because
I
don't
see
any
proposal
I'm
a
little
bit
also
on
the
fence.
C
So
it's
more
with
the
order
of
how
these
things
for
a
zoning
children
is
to
look
at
the
differences
in
the
zones
and
see
if
we
feel
like
that's
appropriate,
based
on
what
they're
asking
for
and
the
standards
that
we're
asked
to
make
our
decisions
on
they
are
not
required
or
asked
or
ever
ever.
Is
it
appropriate
to
ask
an
owner
to
come
in
with
a
plan
of
what
they're
going
to
do
before
they
Zone
if
they
bring
in
a
plan
when
we're
looking
at
a
rezoning
request,
there's
nothing
tying
them
to
that
plan.
C
They
could
get
the
rezone
and
then
sell
the
property,
and
the
next
owner
could
redevelop
it
just
within
the
confines
of
that
zoning.
That
now
applies
to
the
property
and
I
I
mean
I.
Just
look
at
this
picture
and
I.
Think
like
we
talk
about
spot
zoning,
and
this
seems
like
the
exact
opposite
of
that
like
we
would
be
rezoning
this
piece
of
property
to
align
better
with
exactly
what
surrounds
it.
C
There
are
lots
of
approvals
that
have
to
be
happen
between
then
now
and
then
and
to
say
we're
going
to
maintain
these
three,
maybe
medium
sort
of
who
knows
maybe
well
kept,
maybe
not
well
kept
rentals,
rather
than
help
develop
some
more,
maybe
commercial,
with
residential.
On
top,
it
sounds
like
some
really
creative
thinking,
that's
happening
and
again
we
have
no.
We
have
no
guarantee
of
what's
going
to
happen,
but
it
just
seems
to
make
sense
like
there
there's
nothing
on
this.
That
would
convince
me
to
leave
this
as
a
single
family,
residential
there's.
C
AB
These
three
doesn't
necessarily
change
the
traffic
pattern
that
would
hit
13th
South
coming
off
of
there
and
from
a
feasibility
standpoint.
You
know
the
restaurant,
that's
there.
We
we
would
never
remove
the
Foothill
Drive
access
from
that
restaurant
because
for
access
to
any
commercial,
that
is
a
superior
access
point
than
wrapping
around
13,
South
or
driving
past
the
gas
station
and
then
into
this,
serves
as
a
better
kind
of
primary
access
to
the
whole
thing
and
just
as
kind
of
a
secondary
thought.
You
know
these.
AB
The
inclusion
or
rezone
of
these
three
projects
allows
us
to
kind
of
more
holistically
and
thoughtfully,
put
together
a
project
on
the
whole
thing,
but
if
those
don't
get
rezoned,
then
probably
something
in
the
middle
gets
redone
anyway,
that's
that's
either
a
smaller
multi-family
piece
behind
and
these
three
likely
stay
or
gets
old
or
whatever
it
is,
but
I
mean
they're,
I.
Think
currently,
rentals
but
I
don't
know
what
the
plan
is
long
term.
J
I
would
like
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
commissioner
Gail's
comment
that
this
seems
like
an
island.
It
only
seems
that
way
if
you're
looking
at
it
in
plan,
if
you're
driving
up
13th
East,
you
suddenly
go
from
a
commercial
area
to
a
green
aspect
which
is
residential.
So
you
really
you
really.
You
really
view
that
area
as
part
of
the
entrance
to
the
residential
area,
be
so
in
redeveloping
this
property.
I
hope
that
we
would
also
see
that
green
aspect
appear
as
well.
J
It's
not
something
we
can
require,
but
we
already
require
Street,
trees
and
so
forth,
but
to
have
that
setback
there
being
used,
there's
no
setback
required
in
the
CB
District
and
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we'll
see
you
set
back
there.
That
will
mirror
somewhat
the
residential
properties
that
are
in
the
neighborhood.
G
When
we
consider
rezonings
like
we
talked
about
last
time,
you
say
this
is
what
you
could
do
right
now,
and
this
is
what
you
could
do
if
we
change
the
Zone,
since
we
don't
have
a
plan
and
those
are
different,
one
is
a
residential
use
and
a
commercial
business
or
community
business
is
a
lot
of
things
that
might
not
be
great
there
like,
like
they're,
not
going
to
put
a
glass
recycling
facility,
but
what,
if
they
do,
or
what?
If
there's
a
limousine
company
put
in
that
right
there.
G
Those
are
things
that
would
be
allowed
in
a
community
business
that
are
not
allowed
right
now
in
residential.
So
that's
kind
of
that
seems
like
a
well.
It
is
I'm
going
to
say
it
is
a
bigger
change
than
changing
from
low
density
to
a
mid
density.
So
maybe
it
makes
I
and
I
don't
see
how
I
mean
I
think
that
if
they
need
more
density
in
order
to
make
this
whole
Project
work
and
to
make
it
to
make
the
whole
thing
work
as
a
holistic
consideration.
G
G
G
It
seems
kind
of
weird
to
be
saying
we're
short
on
residences
everywhere
and
we're
short
on
this
type
of
a
higher
density
residences
in
the
East
bench.
So
let's
change
this
to
Commercial
and
I
realize
that
residential
is
possible
in
a
commercial
business
community
business,
but
it's
not
guaranteed.
It's.
F
J
F
Right
on
who's,
who
am
I
optimizing
for
what's
the
objective
function
here
like
who
the
economic
argument?
So
if
the
goal
is
more
housing
units
I
think
this
is
likely
to
achieve
more
than
three
housing
units
at
the
end
of
the
day,
because
I
just
think
the
economics,
if
they
can
do
up
to
like
two
or
three
stories,
I,
could
be
wrong.
F
G
F
F
F
G
F
G
Density
multi-family,
it's
a
great
place.
Lots
of
people
should
live
there.
Lots
of
people
should
be
able
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
but
like
let's
have
them
live
there
and
not
put
in
another
restaurant?
That
has
a
liquor
license,
because
it's
a
good
place
for
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
like,
let's
like
make
sure
that
it's
housing,
and
maybe
three
units
doesn't
doesn't
compare.
G
E
Could
I
just
add
one
time?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
also
keep
in
mind.
They
do
have
to
do
some
residential.
There
does
have
to
be
at
least
three
units,
so
yeah
and
I
I'm
hearing
what
everyone
understand
I
do
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
it
could
not
just
be
a
recycle
collection
station
which,
by
the
way,
is
not
the
same
as
a
big
plan
at
West.
It
just
means
that
you
collect
recycling,
but
you
are
very
right
that
we
we
can't.
E
We
can't
dictate
all
the
uses
on
there,
and
so
we
do
need
to
look
at
what
those
potential
uses
are
as
well.
Do
also
keep
in
mind
that
any
project
of
any
significance
on
that
site
will
have
to
go
through
design
review.
We
won't
get
to
dictate
the
use,
but
you
will
be
able
to
have
a
discussion
about
a
potential
design.
Keep
in
mind.
One
of
those
design
review
standards
are
when
we're
talking
about
creating
walkable
neighborhoods
talking
about
being
human
scaled,
so
any
potential
use
would
need
to
meet
those
design
standards.
L
Okay,
based
on
the
information
presented
and
the
discussion
which
I
appreciate,
was
very
robust.
I
move
that
the
commission
recommend
that
the
city
council
approved
this
petition
to
amend
the
zoning
map
with
the
following
condition
pointed
out
that
attachment
I
specifically
stating
that
there
needs
to
be
a
replacement
for
the
three
housings
that
will
be
anticipated
as
being
lost.
Be
part
of
the
development
agreement.
A
L
S
J
I
K
L
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
State
before
I,
make
my
vote
that
one
of
the
things
that
I,
like
that
kind
of
swayed
me,
was
utilizing
that
big
surface
parking
lot
and
that
you're
willing
to
do
a
development
agreement
specifically
to
replace
those
three
houses
in
that
spot,
which
alleviates
my
concern
of
some
sort
of
restaurant.
That
would
totally
make
congestion.
U
L
AC
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
a
zoning
map
Amendment
for
the
500
South
and
400
East.
So
the
request
is
for
rezoning
of
four
properties
that
are
located
at
the
Northwest
intersection
of
500
South
and
400.
East
The
Proposal
is
for
a
rezone
from
rmu
45
or
the
residential
mixed-use
zoning
District
to
the
TSA
UCC
zoning
District.
That's
transit
station
area
urban
center
core
that
one
of
the
primary
differences
between
this
zoning
district
is
that
it
allows
for
a
greater
Building
height
than
what
is
permitted
in
the
rmu
45
zoning
District.
AC
The
applicant
did
not
submit
future
development
plans
with
this
application.
However,
the
anticipated
use
of
the
site
is
for
glown
for
retail,
with
residential
units
above
the
first
floor,
and
the
staff
is
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
board
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
provide
a
little
more
context
with
this
aerial
photo.
You
can
see
properties
to
the
north
that
are
also
located
to
the
north
west,
specifically
that
are
also
located
in
the
TSA
UCC
zoning
District.
AC
The
city's
public
safety
building
is
located
to
the
west,
and
then
there
are
other
commercial
buildings
located
to
the
South
and
to
the
east.
It's
within
the
Central
Community
master
plan.
All
together.
The
property
is
a
little
over
one
and
a
quarter
Acres
the
land
use
designation,
is
Civic
mixed
use
and
their
view
process
is
the
zoning
Amendment
and
the
general
ozonic
standards.
AC
As
far
as
existing
conditions
on
500
South,
the
photos
on
the
left
shows
the
freshman's
jewelry
building
that
was
recently
demolished.
The
photo
on
the
right
shows
the
property
to
the
east
Lighthouse
research,
it
also
fronts
400
East
and
then
on
400
East
and
to
the
north.
There
are
two
buildings
that
are
currently
used
for
commercial
purposes.
AC
As
far
as
the
context
surrounding
the
site
to
the
West
is
the
city's
public
safety
building
to
the
east
is
a
three-story
commercial
building.
There
is
a
building
under
construction
to
the
southeast
to
the
citizen,
which
is
a
two-story
Podium
with
four
stories.
A
stick
above
it
to
the
South
are
the
two-story
commercial
buildings.
AC
As
far
as
compatibility,
the
TSA
zoning
District
allows
for
a
broader
range
of
commercial
uses
than
the
existing
rm45.
It
is
appropriate
near
Transit
and
the
property
is
within
close
proximity
to
the
Trax
red
line
and
several
bus
routes.
It
does
allow
for
greater
height
than
the
existing
zoning
District.
However,
most
properties
surrounding
these
properties
under
consideration
allow
for
greater
height
than
the
rmu
45
zoning
district,
and
while
the
rmu
45
zoning
district
has
a
number
of
development
standards
compared
to
other
zones
in
the
city,
the
TSA
zoning
district
has
even
more
requirements.
AC
As
far
as
public
process.
Early
notification
was
mailed
to
Property
Owners.
There
was
an
online
open
house.
Posted
staff
has
received
a
number
of
email
comments
that
were
included
in
the
staff
report,
and
there
was
one
additional
comment
that
was
placed
in
your
Dropbox
earlier
this
week
and
staff's
recommendation
is
for
that.
The
Planning
Commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
AC
S
Sorry
we
own
the
property,
66
South,
400,
East
and
considering
a
partnership
with
with
cowboy
partners
for
the
proposed
site.
We
feel
that
you
know
higher
density
in
this
location
is
compatible,
entire
block
is
commercial,
and-
and
so
at
this
point
we
don't
have
firm
plans
we're
starting
with
the
the
zoning
change.
So
that's
all
I
have.
D
A
Seeing
no
questions
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
who
would
like
to
give
public
comment?
Oh,
we
do
have
one
one
person,
thank
you
for
your
fortitude
and
going
all
the
way
through
this
long
meeting
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
two
minutes.
Thank.
AD
AD
We
like
the
progressive
Trend
that
cowboy
partners
are
following
to
increase
housing
opportunities
downtown
the
proposed
change
would
give
us
as
Property
Owners
some
great
options
as
the
years
go
by
to
decide
what
we
would
like
to
do
with
the
building
you
know
in
in
years
to
come,
so
it
just
gives
us
more
options.
There
already
are
taller
buildings
that
were
recently
constructed,
so
it
would
not
be
an
out
of
place
type
of
thing
it
would
fit
in
well,
and
I
also
feel
that
this
will
improve
the
property
values
of
everyone
in
the
area.
Thank.
A
Q
I
like
this,
but
if
you
guys,
you
know
put
something
in
here,
please
make
sure,
there's
a
bakery
or
a
coffee
shop,
or
something
and
since
you're
going
to
cover
up
the
penguin
or
the
flamingo.
You
know
give
me
something
interesting
to
look
at,
but
yeah
density
is
good.
I
ride,
public
transit
every
day,
I
love
it
and
it
services
this
neighborhood
pretty
well,
although
you
do
have
to
hike
a
block
or
so
up
or
down.
Fourth,
because
this
happens
to
be
like
in
that
dead
band
between
two
stops,
but
yeah.
D
E
E
You
know:
where
should
we
have
those
and
I've
been
here
long
enough
that
I
remember
when
these
properties
got
rezoned,
so
it
was
been
in
the
last
13
years
and
we
did
have
a
livable
communities
Grant,
so
we
actually
studied
each
and
every
one
of
these
stations
to
determine
what
zoning
was
appropriate
at
the
time.
It
was
a
weird
mixture
of
zones
that
don't
exist
anymore,
some
that
do
literature,
tolerable
zones
and
so
a
lot
of
became
TSA.
There
was
some
that
were
carved
out.
E
Was
that
really
the
appropriate,
Zone
and
so
I
think?
Maybe
this
is
actually
a
staff
kind
of
saying.
Are
we
trying
to
fix
and
so
I
think
that
we're
looking
at
our
newly
adopted
Master
clients
that
we
have
that
have
been
adopted
since
that
plan,
whether
it's
plant,
Salt
Lake
or
the
like
housing
plans,
things
like
that
that
we
do
support
the
rezone
to
go
to
TSA.
But
it's
a
great
question.
Thanks,
commissioner,.
AC
So
if
there
is
a
specific
setback
in
the
TSA
zones
for
500
South,
and
that
is
that
average
of
the
other
buildings
on
the
street,
so
that
would
be
compatible.
What
would
be
the
average
compared
with
a
public
safety
building,
because
that's
the
other
building,
that's
on
that
block
face
and
then
on
400
East,
there's,
not
a
specific
setback
that
is
required
for
that.
So
it
falls
into
that
all
other
streets
category
and
there
is
not
a
required
setback
on
a
400
East.