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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - April 13, 2022
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - April 13, 2022
https://www.slc.gov/planning/
https://www.slc.gov/planning/planning-commission-agendas-minutes/
A
Meeting
for
april
13th
2022
and
thank
you
michaela
for
doing
that
on
short
notice,
because
I
only
asked
her
to
do
that
on
monday.
So
I
appreciate
it
okay,
so
we
are
meeting
again
for
our
second
in-person
meeting.
It
still
feels
really
strange,
but
it's
nice
to
see
you
all
in
person
we're
going
to
start
our
meeting
tonight
with
a
report
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
and
I
don't
have
anything.
A
C
C
I
do
I
have
an
item
to
pass
along.
It's
regarding
the
block
67
plan
development,
which
came
before
you
back
in
2017.,
that's
kind
of
the
redevelopment
of
the
old,
a
portion
of
the
post
office,
building
or
block,
and
they
came
through
a
planned
development
back
in
2017.
C
They
also
proposed
some
changes
to
the
sign,
ordinance
or
essentially,
a
signed
package
for
their
development,
which
they
were
coming
back
to
the
planning
commission
for
to
get
approval
for
that
they
have
revised
all
their
signs
to
comply
with
zoning
ordinance,
so
they
will
not
be
coming
back
for
approval
of
their
sign
package.
We
just
wanted
to
pass
that
along
in
case
there
were
questions,
and
you
were
wondering
why
you
hadn't
seen
the
sign
package.
C
Yes,
I'd
like
to
welcome
rich
tuttle,
his
first
meeting
tonight.
A
District
one,
okay,
so
just
welcome
it's
good
to
meet
you
since
you're
sharing
a
mic
with
adrian
and
whenever
you
do
talk,
you
need
to
be
really
close
so
that
it
picks
up
on
the
recording
and
you
can
turn
your
microphone
on
and
off
all
right.
Just
fyi,
okay,
welcome
aboard
and
let
me
know
if
you
ever
have
any
questions.
I'm
happy
to
point
you
to
somebody
who
knows
the
answer
all
right,
so
we're
going
to
begin
tonight
with
a
consent
agenda.
A
A
That
is
a
conundrum
and
you
kind
of
have
to
pick
the
abstention
since
we
have
a
full
quorum.
If
we
did
not
have
a
quorum,
I
would
probably
remove
the
minutes
from
the
consent
in
that
regard,
if
we
have
a
if
we
have
well
in
this
case
a
time
extension,
but
any
other
thing
on
a
consent
agenda
that
any
commissioner
has
a
lot
of
heartburn
about,
I
can
remove
it.
A
B
Chair,
I
moved
to
approve
the
the
consent
agenda,
including
the
minutes
and
the
two-time
extensions.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
from
brenda
and
a
second
from
maureen
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
and
rick
will
not
be
voting
on
this
one.
I
already
discussed
that
since
he
was
not
present
for
any
of
last
meeting,
andra.
F
G
A
And
mike
you
can
formulate
thank
you.
Okay.
That
motion
passes
with
five
yes
votes
and
three
abstentions:
okay,
we're
we
are
going
to
have
a
lightning
meeting
tonight;
very
well,
not
lightning,
but
a
light
meeting
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
our
agenda,
and
this
is
the
sawtooth
tag,
master
plan
and
zoning
amendment
at
approximately
16
south
800
west.
We
have
a
zoning
map
amendment
with
case
number,
pln
pcm
2021-01202.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
so
this
is
a
request
and
for
a
zoning
map
amendment
in
mexico.
H
The
master
plan
amendment
is
to
to
change
the
what
is
currently
listed
on
the
north
temple
boulevard
plan,
where
it
shows
the
site-
and
this
is
the
site
here-
it's
on
the
euclid
neighborhood,
and
this
is
south
temple
and
800
west,
and
it's
located
in
the
corner,
oops,
okay,
so
the
site
on
the
on
the
ma
on
the
north
temple
boulevard
plan
shows
this
as
a
transition
area
area,
and
the
request
is
to
change
that
on
the
master
plan
to
a
core
area
and
then
for
the
zoning
map
amendment
is
the
request
is
to
change
the
the
zoning
map
designation
from
tsa
un
transition
to
tsa
un
core
staff's
recommendation
is
to
for
the
planning
commission
to
recommend
denial.
H
So
the
reason
for
the
amendment
and
the
applicant
can
explain
a
little
bit
more
is
to
allow
the
development
of
mixed-use
buildings
the
tag
sawtooth
with
a
two-floor
podium,
ground,
floor
parking
and
retail
and
five
floors
with
approximately
186
residential
units.
Above
the
proposed
change
is
needed
to
allow
for
desired
height
and
density,
and
the
current
zoning
district.
H
H
H
H
H
H
But
for
at
this
point
it
would
be
just
for
that
site
and
the
applicant
feels
that
you
know
the
folsom
trail.
It
provides
enough
buffering
from
the
proposed
project
to
the
surrounding
single-family
neighborhood
and
here's
where
it
starts
being
more
of
a
single
family
residential,
whereas
here
in
this
area,
is
more
of
a
commercial
industrial
area.
H
Maximum
and
the
core
area
is
the
maximum
of
75
feet
parking
which
the
transition
zoning
district.
It
requires
50
of
required,
what's
required
on
the
land
use
table
of
the
parking
chapter
and
in
the
core
zoning
district,
there's
no
space
requirement
and
then
open
space.
H
H
H
So
and
in
the
plan
it
talks
about
how
on
the
800
bus
station
area,
there
will
be.
You
know
that
compatibility
is
achieved
by
having
three
distinct
areas:
the
core
taller
buildings
transition,
not
as
tall
and
then
the
stable
areas,
which
is
the
lower
densities.
H
H
And
that
the
north
temple
boulevard
plan
is
clear
that
there's
no
need
there
is
a
need
for
a
buffer
between
the
core
and
the
stable
areas,
and
that
is
the
transition
area
where
the
site
is
so.
Our
recommendation
is
based
on
the
findings
listed
on
the
staff
report
and
it's
the
planning
staff's
opinion
that
the
project
does
not
meet
the
applicable
standards
and
therefore
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
recommends
denial
to
the
city
council.
I
Okay,
my
question
is:
can
can
there
are
a
couple
of
goals
that
they're
trying
to
meet
by
by
getting
the
zoning
changed
right,
like
maybe
larger
units
in
the
building
and
more
parking
available
that
kind
of
stuff?
So
but
those
those
aren't
necessarily
achieved
through
this
zoning
change,
that's
requested,
but
is
there
another
way
that
they
could
get
additional
height
through
like
design
review
or
some
other
process?
That
would
ensure
that
the
units
are
larger
or
the
parking
is
provided
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
H
D
So
it's
actually
a
planned
development
process
that
you
could
achieve
a
little
bit
of
extra
height
in
some
of
these
districts
and
it,
but
it's
pretty
minimal.
So
let
me
find
out
that
exact
height.
You
probably
can't
hear
me.
I
need
to
speak
into
the
mic.
I
It's
just
that
they
said
they
they.
What
I
read
was
that
they
wanted
maybe
to
change
the
zoning,
so
they
could
build
a
taller
building,
so
they
could
have
three
unit
or
three
bedroom
units
right
and
they
can
provide
more
parking,
but
the
building
needs
to
be
taller
in
order
for
them
to
do
that
right
financially.
I
So
I
just
wondered
if
there's
another
way,
but
there's
no
way
for
this
zoning
to
achieve
those
goals,
kind
of
or
to
make
sure
that
those
goals
happen,
because
it
also
sounded
like
from
the
public
comment
that
that's
what
the
the
community
councils
wanted
to
those
kind
of
specific
things.
So
I
just
wonder
if
there's
another
mechanism
for
them
to
increase
the
height
or
build
a
larger
building
in
the
existing
zoning.
D
H
As
far
as
the
planning
commission
level,
there
is
there's
not
a
for
example.
The
city
council
could
ask
for
a
plan
development
agreement
that
you
know
make
sure
that
those
those
items
that
are
you
know,
incentives
for
for
that
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
can
be
implemented.
H
You
know
and
will
be
implemented,
but
at
this
level
we
we
can
only
use
the
standards
for
zoning
amendment
in
the
in
those
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
F
You
yeah
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
a
little
better,
the
rationale
because
it
seems
like
I'm
looking
at
the
sort
of
goals
of
the
master
plan
and
it
seems,
like
you
know,
increasing
density,
particularly
around
this
expensive
piece
of
infrastructure
we've
already
put
in
you
know.
The
project
in
principle
would
seem
to
be
consistent
with
this,
and
I'm
wondering
whether
the
existing
zoning
is
sort
of
not
economically
viable
to
get
the
sort
of
projects
we
want
that
use
that
infrastructure-
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
the
economics
behind
the
sort
of
recommendation.
H
The
recommendation
was
based
on
what
the
master
plan
you
know
actually
proposes,
and
the
the
boundary
for
the
master
plan
was
something
that
was
agreed
by
the
city
council
in
2010.
So.
H
The
the
recommendation
does
not
take
so
much
in
consideration
what
the
economic
you
know
situation
of
what
the
the
proposal
is.
C
So
maintaining
that
buffer
is
crucial
in
allowing
that
the
transition
from
the
core
area
down
to
the
more
stable
neighborhoods.
So
allowing
for
extra
density
in
that
transition
areas
is
kind
of
goes
against
the
intent
there,
which
is
why
the
recommendation
is
to
essentially
hold
what's
there
that
was
adopted
in
2010
and
planning
division
feels
that's,
that's
still
appropriate
for
that
area.
A
Okay,
thank
you
casey
all
right.
We
have
an
applicant
of
jordan,
atkins
and
jake
military.
Are
you
there
if
you
would
step
up
to
the
table
and
make
sure
you
state
your
names
in
the
microphone
for
the
recording
and
then
do
you
have
a
presentation?
You
need
kacha
to
help
you
get
plugged
in
there.
A
Okay,
well,
david
gets
you
set
up
if
you
guys
want
to
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
we'll
get
that
presentation
up
once
you
do
that
you
get
started,
you'll
have
up
to
10
minutes.
You
don't
need
to
take
that
whole
time,
but
it's
yours
to
do
what
you
need
to.
E
Thank
you
full
house.
Thank
you.
Hopefully
it's
a
short
meeting.
This
presentation
was
actually
quite
difficult
for
us.
We
have
had
the
fortunate
opportunity
to
be
developing
in
salt
lake
city
since
2016
and
in
that
time
we've
brought
12
proposals
before
this
body,
of
which
this
is
the
first
one
that
we
decided
to
come
forward
with
the
negative
recommendation.
E
The
main
reason
for
that
is
we're
so
adamantly
opposed
of
staff's
assertion
that
this
is
not
consistent
with
both
the
master
plan
and
the
area,
and
I
think
that
honestly,
it's
evident
within
the
staff
report
that
they
have
differing
opinions
as
they
kind
of
bounce
back
and
forth
I'll.
I
think
one
of
the
little
let's
see
this.
E
So
this
is
a
you
know.
The
map
that
was
within
the
staff
report
as
well.
The
site
is
approximately
800
feet
away
from
the
fixed
rail
line
on
north
temple
and
8th
west.
It's
a
relatively
flat.
It's
a
nice
sight.
It's
relatively
flat
square
sits
vacant
is
directly
adjacent
to
an
industrial
freight
line
to
the
north,
a
quite
expensive
and
great
city
amenity
to
the
south
of
the
folsom
trail
to
the
east.
E
We
have
a
large
track
of
land
owned
by
the
city
that
abuts
the
freeway
that
obscures
the
you
know
the
view
of
downtown
and
to
the
west,
which
is
also
unique,
because
we
only
have
two
neighbors,
so
we
found
that
this
site
was
really
could
be
asked
more
from
like
we
need.
This
is
something
where
we
are
displacing
no
business,
we're
not
displacing
any
people.
E
E
So
when
we
considered
what
could
be
built
under
the
under
the
current
zone
and
what
the
rezone
would
allow
us
to
do,
we
thought
we
could
achieve
both
of
those
main
objectives
that
we
heard
from
the
community
for
more
larger
two
larger
units
and
more
parking
and
I'll.
Add
that
we
would
welcome
a
development
agreement
that
would
bind
us
to
at
least
meeting
the
parking
requirements
within
the
zone
that
we're
leaving.
E
E
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
what's
the
right
spot
for
the
transition,
and
this
idea
about
buffering
from
this
core
area
to
the
stable
area,
and
you
can
see
on
this
map
that
you
don't
get
to
a
stable
area
until
you,
at
least
to
the
south,
where
we're
on
the
south
side
of
the
core.
Until
after
you
cross
the
freeway.
E
A
B
If
you're
willing
to
do
a
development
agreement
about
what
percentage
of
units
would
you
see
being
a
two
or
three
bedroom,
or
do
you
have
any
notion
of
that?
Oh
I
can
get
this
one.
D
It
would
it
would
be
about
a
quarter,
so
in
total
you
know,
adding
the
additional
height
would
allow
us
to
achieve.
I
think,
somewhere
in
the
ballpark
of
30,
to
40
additional
units
and
of
those
additional
units.
We
would
actually
go
from
20
two-bedroom
units
to
53.,
okay,.
B
B
E
Yeah-
I
I
might
not
have
mentioned
this,
but
the
other
thing,
and
we
had
a
difficult
time
with
trying
to
articulate
this
because
of
how
the
zoning
ordinances
are
written,
but
the
second
level
of
of
parking.
What
it
also
does
is
it
gets.
It
gets
the
first
level
of
residential
units
above
the
rail
we
we
just
kind
of
in
when
you
know
in
the
models.
We
envisioned
like
looking
at
your
if
you're
in
that
first
level
of
residential
units
and
you're,
looking
out
at
the
side
of
a
train
compared
to.
E
A
Any
other
questions,
commissioners.
Okay
with
that,
you
guys
hang
tight.
We
will
open
the
public
comment
period
and
is
there
anyone
here
that
wishes
to
speak?
We
have
this
lectern
set
up
for
you.
If
you
would
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
you
will
have
two
minutes.
J
Thank
you.
My
name
is
nigel
swaby.
I
live
in
the
area,
I'm
also
the
chair
of
the
fairpark
community
council,
I'm
speaking
independently
of
them,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
been
no
opposition
to
this
project
and
to
this
rezone
ask
I've
been
involved
with.
I
served
on
a
board
with
the
previous
owner
of
this
property,
and
I
know
what
was
originally
planned
for
it
and,
like
jordan,
said
this
is
a
unique
property.
J
J
I
see
it
as
the
key
to
the
folsom
trail
and
it.
This
rezone
request
will
allow
the
developer
more
flexibility
to
be
able
to
provide
either
retail
or
some
amenities
on
that
ground
floor
that
face
the
trail
and
even
the
second
floor,
and
we
think,
as
a
community,
that
it's
very
important
and
to
support
the
desire
or
the
statement
about
more
units.
That's
something
that
I
hear
in
my
community.
All
the
time
and
parking
is
always
a
concern
to
give
you
an
idea.
J
I
visited
another
project
on
north
temple,
that's
been
built,
it
was
opened
up
earlier
this
year
and
at
inception
it
was
40
percent
occupied
and
these
are
micro
units.
It's
a
hundred
percent
occupied,
so
the
demand
for
housing
is
there.
The
demand
for
family
size,
housing
is
there,
and
so
I
urge
you
to
consider
the
unique
situation
of
this
property,
what
it
is
and
where
it
stands
and
support
the
applicant
in
this
decision.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
swaby.
Anyone
else
in
attendance
that
wishes
to
speak
okay
wayne
did
we
get
any
emails
at
public.com,
slcgov.com.
D
Nope
we
have
not
received
any
emails.
You
did
get,
I
believe,
a
comment
that
was
put
in
your
dropbox,
but
no
emails
have
come
in.
Yes,.
A
F
So
I
think
that
this
is
an
opportunity
to
add
density
when
we
don't
have
neighborhood
opposition,
I
mean
so
many
times
when
there's
you
know
any
demand
for
demand
density.
We
get
a
letter
from
the
community
council
and
many
other
people,
and
I
love
the
idea
of
having
jordan
river
trail
more
connected,
because
I
run
over
there
all
the
time
and
that
particular
part
of
the
trail
is
not
populated.
It's
not.
You
know
it's
not
dangerous,
except
that
it's
not
populated.
F
So
I
love
the
idea
of
a
little
a
few
more
people
over
there.
I
am
maybe
this
planning
staff
could
tell
me
what
a
stable
neighborhood
is,
because
I
guess
I
have
to
be
that
nate
that
that
term,
in
particular
just
sets
off
alarm
bells.
In
my
mind,
in
terms
of
like
the
first
time
I
heard
that
term
was
in
the
context
of
holc
redlining
maps
and
so
I've
just
what
what
exactly
is
a
stable
neighborhood.
C
C
Yeah
on
page
52
of
the
north
temple
boulevard
master
plan,
it
talks
about
the
800
west,
stable
area.
Zoning
regulations
should
be
aimed
at
maintaining
the
existing
development
characteristics
while
allowing
appropriately
appropriately
scaled
residential
infill
development.
Minor
changes
happen
within
the
existing
development
pattern
and
are
consistent
with
the
overall
scale
of
the
surrounding
structures.
A
I
think
one
could
really
take
a
second
look
at
that
existing
light
manufacturing
and
if
that
is
something
12
years
later,
that
we
still
want
to
see
a
stable
there
or
if
we
want,
if
we
feel
like
the
vision
and
the
needs,
are
a
little
different
from
light
manufacturing.
I
What
what
is
the,
what
is
the
zoning
for
that
on
this
map,
that
he
was
showing
that
has
the
core
area
as
red
and
then
yellow
for
transition
and
then
blue
for
kind
of
stable?
What
what
is
south
of
100
south.
H
I
H
H
I
I
H
A
G
Yeah,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
jump
in
and
I've
got
comments,
and
then
I
guess
we
can
get
some
answers
if
the
staff
wants
to
jump
in.
But
you
know
I've
walked
this
site
several
times
over
the
past
few
years,
and
I
mean
it's
really
just
a
lot
of
grassy
fields,
old
industrial
areas
that
are
just
kind
of
have
things
stacked
around.
I
feel
like
this
is
an
opportunity
where
you
can
have
an
engaged
trail
with.
G
It
gives
you
two
means
of
public
transportation,
bicycle
lanes
where
you
can
take
the
trail
wherever
you
need
to
go
plus
be
able
to
walk
to
a
transit.
Stop
I
just
for
me.
I
get
that
there's
a
master
plan,
it's
it's!
It's
kind
of
a
10
year
old
master
plan
and
it
was
idealized
at
the
time,
but
no
one's
really
developed
in
that
pattern.
G
Up
till
now,
because
there's
still
empty
lots,
there's
still
industrial
elements
that
are
just
piling
up
a
lot
of
junk
really,
and
so
I
think,
for
this
area
to
develop
the
way
that
I
think
the
trail
could
be
an
incredible
place
for
people
to
go
and
engage
in
and
have
a
boulevard
there.
Where
you
can
ride
a
bike,
you
can
stop
and
get
a
cup
of
coffee
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
it's
it's
part
of
a
new
way
of
thinking
about
trans
transitioning
through
our
cities.
G
B
I
have
a
question
so
on
the
800
west.
Frontage
of
your
property
is
the
property
line
where
the
current
fence
is
or
is
there
or
is
that?
Is
there
a
setback.
E
D
B
Because
if,
if
it's
a
setback,
I
would
like
to
retain
that
setback
and
not
see
you
come
in
in
a
year
and
say
I
need
all
of
that
land
and
take
up
all
that
setback,
because
that
setback
on
800,
if
it's,
if
it's,
if
it's
actually
the
property
line
and
that's
fine
you're
not
going
to
go
over
it
anyway,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
instances
where
people
are.
B
You
know
just
grabbing
a
little
bit
more
24
20,
more
feet
of
land
like
that
and
just
and
coming
back
in
and
saying,
oh
well,
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
set
back
if,
if
it
is
one,
so
I
will
do
a
little,
I
will
try
to
do
a
little
investigation
now.
But
I
I,
if
you
come
back
with
that,
you're
not
going
to
get
it
sure
yeah.
E
B
A
So
I
have
a
procedural
question
paul
in
the
dropbox.
We
have
three
versions
of
this
motion.
We
have
one
that
combines
them.
D
A
Okay,
we
just
had
three
choices
and
I
didn't
know
which
one
was
preferred.
I
have
a
question.
D
H
We
send
notices
to
the
poplar
grove
and
the
downtown
community
councils,
and
then
we
also
had
an
online
meeting
with
a
fair
park.
Community
council
we
heard
back
from
the
public
grove
and
the
fair
park,
as
you
heard
from
the
chairman,
but
from
the
poplar
grove
community
council.
H
The
issues
were,
you
know,
just
parking
more.
You
know
the
unit
mixes
to
have
more
two
and
three
bedrooms,
and
let
me
see
if
I
there
were
some.
You
know.
B
A
D
Yeah
often
the
pl,
if,
if
that
is
going
to
be
the
direction,
sometimes
the
planner
will
recommend
that
there's
nothing
prohibiting
the
planning
commission
from
doing
that
on
their
own
okay.
If
you
do
that,
just
provide
some
good
guidance
as
to
what
you
would
like
to
see
in
that.
So
the
city
council
isn't
guessing.
A
Yeah
so
tonight
we
are
just
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
on
both
the
the
both
amendments
for
the
master
plan
amendment
and
the
zoning
map
amendment.
If
anyone
is
ready
to
make
a
motion
or
if.
G
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
discuss
the
that
topic
one
just
for
one
second,
because
I
do
think
my
my
one
concern
is
that
the
trail
will
become
more
of
an
alley
to
the
building
and
I
don't
want
that
to
happen.
Would.
D
G
G
Recommendation
of
a
planned
or
development
agreement.
Sorry
it's
hard
when
it's
not
written.
G
With
the
development
agreement,
basically
stipulating
what
conditions
happen
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site
concerning
the
trail,
the
adjacent
roads
and
the
the
railway.
G
That
the
unit
configurations
are
at
least
25
or
yeah
two
to
three
bedroom
units.
I
think
that's
a
good.
A
A
A
F
Yes,
just
on
the
additional
parking
I
do
get
concerned
when
we
just
make
it
easier
and
easier
for
all
these
cars
to
be
in
these
neighborhoods,
we
want
to
be
high
density.
I
mean
it's
just
like
we're
in
downtown
salt
lake
and
it's
really
easy
to
park
here,
and
it
means
nobody
ever
gets
out
of
their
cars,
and
that
seems
really
inconsistent
with
our
master
plan
where
we're
trying
to
encourage
other
forms
of
transit.
F
G
Would
agree
with
that?
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
say
about
it
is
that
I
do
believe
in
the
buffer
between
the
train
and
that
that
floor,
and
so
I
think,
if
that's
how
we
get
that
buffer,
that's
I'm
with
you,
I'm
usually
against
parking,
but
when
you're
right
against
a
train
track
and
you
live
next
to
it,
I
don't
think
you
want
your
window
outside
the
tr
next
to
the
train.
So
that's
why
I
would
accept
that.
But
but
wouldn't
they
just
say.
G
Yes,
I
okay
yeah,
based
on
what
I
just
stated.
D
Sorry
yeah,
I
was
going
to
say:
if
that's
the
direction
we're
going
to
go,
then
some
more
specificity
as
to
how
much
parking,
but
since
that
friendly
amendment
has
been
pulled.
Commissioner
burroughs,
if
you
want,
you
can
make
a
substitute
motion.
D
A
G
D
A
All
right,
thank
you.
All
that
actually
concludes
our
agenda
tonight.
I'm
sure
next
month
will
be
nothing
like
this.
So
just
prepare
yourselves
with
that.
I
will
say
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All.