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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - 03/22/2023
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B
And
I
wanted
to
clarify
on
the
first
application
we
heard
about
the
modification
of
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
YWCA
fence.
I
was
not
just
asking
about
what
the
conditional
use
is.
I
was
clarifying
that
the
ordinance
upon
which
staff
was
relying
to
recommend
approval
of
the
application
was
not
a
sufficient
ordinance
on
which
we
could
rest
our
approval
if
we
wanted
to
approve.
A
B
A
D
A
F
B
H
Just
some
updates
on
action
and
activity
that
the
council
has
taken
last
night.
They
approved
the
Landscaping
regulations
so
that
we
maintain
a
the
ability
of
being
a
compliance
city
with
the
various
rebate
programs
that
are
offered
by
ones
offered
by
Department
of
Natural
Resources
at
the
state
level
and
want
to
see
the
Central
Utah,
Water,
Conservancy
district
and
those
rebate.
Programs
are
intended
to
help
people
offset
the
cost
of
removing
sod
and
replanting
with
more
water-wise
Landscaping,
but
they
both
require
city
ordinances
that
have
certain
elements
in
them.
H
H
They
initially
were
going
to
be
making
a
decision
on
that.
After
that
public
hearing
they
postponed
that
until
April
4th
they
may.
They
have
made
a
few
changes
to
that
ordinance,
mostly
around
the
owner
occupancy
and
then
some
enforcement
stuff.
So
we
still
don't
know
how
they're
all
going
to
vote,
but
we'll
we'll
know
after
April
4th.
The
other
thing
that
the
council
did
last
night
is
that
we
had
a
another
annexation
application.
H
It
was
an
amended
annexation,
application
that
was
submitted
to
the
city
for
some
property
along
2200
West
and
the
the
Council
actually
voted
to
not
accept
that
application,
because
the
city
is
going
to
start
the
process
of
a
city-sponsored
annexation
and
to
do
that,
there's
certain
things
that
we
have
to
do
beforehand,
but
that
property
owner
who
submitted
that
annexation
is
aware
of
that.
We
communicated
with
the
reasons
for
that.
So
hopefully
they'll
be
part
of
that
process.
A
I
I
wouldn't
mind
revisiting
Andrew's
idea
on
if
you
miss
a
meeting
and
it's
not
a
scheduled
meeting,
if
it's
an
extra
meeting,
if
that
should
count
against
six
meetings
that
we're
allowed
to
miss,
that
actually
seems
like
it's.
A
those
meetings
should
not
be
included
in
the
rule
about
the
six
meetings.
J
I
I
G
G
So
whatever
action
gets
taken
would
be
a
collective
decision
and
it
may
be
that
we
don't
do
anything
for
it,
but
it
does.
It
does
say
that
we
must
address
those
absences.
So
there's
that
clarification
and
my
thought
is,
we
have
22
meetings
a
year
and
we
know
about
them
missing.
Six
of
those
is
kind
of
a
lot.
G
So
if
we
have
an
extra
meeting,
which
has
has
not
been
a
big
deal
until
recently,
you
know
I
I,
think
that
personally
I
just
feel
like
if
you're
missing
six
meetings
of
those
22,
then
then
maybe
there's
a
bigger
issue
that
you
have.
You
know
a
lot
going
on
in
your
life
that
you're
not
able
to
commit
to
those
meetings
that
I,
just
don't
I,
think
six
is
already
a
lot,
and
so
my
personal
feeling
is
that
we
don't.
H
M
H
M
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
six
but
yeah.
The
two
we've
had
and
I
have
travel
commitments
that
are
literally
planned
six
months,
plus
in
advance
and
I
when
I
get
the
calendar
I'm
very
happy
as
soon
as
I
get
that
calendar
to
book
off
every
single
meeting,
but
it's
often
extremely
difficult
for
me
to
change
a
travel
Arrangement
exposed
and
so
to
me
we
shouldn't
have
canceled
that
meeting
about
the
weather.
I
didn't
see
why
we
did
that.
M
You
know
I,
don't
know
it
just
seems
like
it's.
It's
not
a
big
deal
either
way,
but
it
it.
If
we're
going
to
have
these
special
meetings
repeatedly
like
we
were
going
to
have
flooding
and
people
are
gonna,
say
I
can't
get
to
the
meeting
because
of
flooding,
and
you
know
we
or
we
have
extra
we've
had
too
many
items,
sometimes
that
we've
added
okay,
x-posts,
we've
we've
needed
more
meetings,
and
so
maybe
that
happens
again
if
I
don't
know
that.
That's
just
my
take.
L
A
Okay,
I
think
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
we
really
need
to
do
about
it.
We
can
talk
to
staff
and
if
we
need
to
amend
the
policies
and
procedures,
we'll
take
a
look
at
it,
but
I
think
the
idea
is
just
to
make
sure
people
get
here
as
much
as
possible
and
if
you
have
like
travel
commitments
or
something
like
that,
that's
that's
fine.
We
can.
We
can
work
with
that.
A
O
O
O
Some
quick
facts:
the
height
of
the
CDU,
is
11
feet,
4
inches
the
size
is
576
square
feet,
it'll
be
located
in
the
rear
more
towards
the
southeast
corner
of
the
adjacent
to
the
alley.
It
will
be
just
one
unit,
it
does
meet
the
lock
coverage
requirements
and
is
providing
part
one
pave
stall
off
the
alley
and
there's
also
parking
available
on
Lake
Street.
Also,
there
are
no
overlays
that
are
applicable
that
would
impact
the
design
or
requirements
of
the
Adu
design.
So
here
are
some
site
photos.
O
The
key
considerations
for
this
request
is
the
zoning
standards
for
adus
the
conditional
use
standards
and
whether
or
not
this
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
master
plan
staff
found.
The
proposed
edu
is
consistent
with
plant
Salt
Lake,
the
growing
SLC
housing
plan,
and
it
meets
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
Central
Community
master
plan,
such
as
to
provide
more
housing
opportunities
for
a
range
of
family
members
and
income
types
opportunities
for
smarter
and
more
creative
development
practices
to
better
serve.
The
community
here
is
a
summary
of
The
Centers
of
review.
O
A
A
A
O
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A
A
P
So
my
name
is
Christina
Robb
and
I
am
the
chair
of
East,
Liberty,
Park,
Community
organization
or
alpco
I'm
here
today
to
thank
Megan
for
coming
to
our
meeting
and
presenting
and
for
putting
up
with
me
when
I
had
a
traumatic
head
injury
from
a
recent
car
accident
the
week
before
it
was
really
helpful
for
her
to
come
out
and
Lead
our
community
council
with
this
kind
of
I
mean
I,
guess
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
great
planning.
Leadership.
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P
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S
Here's
a
rendering
of
the
proposed
project.
This
is
a
proposed
156
residential
units
with
126
parking
stalls.
It
is
located
over
these
two
properties
shown
here.
There
is
a
private
right-of-way
down
the
center
of
the
two
properties.
These
two
will
later
be
Consolidated
and
the
apartment
will
go
over
this
Pro.
This
drive
aisle
creating
kind
of
like
a
covered
Drive
aisle
that
is
shared
between
these
three
properties.
S
Currently,
there
is
an
existing
Betos
drive-through
on
this
property,
with
a
small
office
building
on
the
South
Side
there's
also
a
Reagan
billboard
located
at
this
property.
The
lease
for
this
billboard
does
end
this
year
and
according
to
the
applicant,
this
billboard
will
be
demolished
before
the
construction
of
this
project,
as
you
can
see
from
this
photo
kind
of
like
the
existing
apartment
complex
to
the
West
kind
of
blocks,
the
visibility
of
this
billboard
from
400
South.
So
it's
not
the
best
most
youthful
billboard
anyway.
S
S
There
are
differences
in
material
changes
throughout
the
building
the
ground
floor
use
is
brick
veneer
and
brick.
Veneer
is
also
located
on
the
400
South
facade
as
well,
and
then
it
changes
to
fiber
cement
paneling
with
a
different
color
schemes
throughout
the
building,
and
then
the
massing
changes
help
articulate
these
with
the
material
changes
to
create
these
five
distinct
sections.
S
The
design
centers
also
required
that
the
building
masses
are
divided
into
Heights
and
sizes
that
relate
to
human
scale
and
the
surrounding
buildings.
So
this
is
the
two
existing
apartment
complexes
to
the
east
and
west,
and
you
can
see
here
that
it
matches
the
roof
line,
the
solid
avoid
ratio
and
also
materials
and
color
scheme
as
the
surrounding
buildings
and
the
different
material
changes,
color
schemes
and
massing
kind
of
help
break
down
this
building
into
separate
pieces.
T
My
name
is
Gonzalo
calcite
I'm
with
Envision
Architectural
Group
I.
Don't
have
a
specific
presentation.
Okay,
I'm!
Really
here
you
know
just
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
think
you
know,
Cassie
and
Aaron
have
been
great
to
work
with
and
I
think
the
presentation
and
the
staff
report
you
know
shows
our
information
very
well.
I'm
happy
to
you
know,
have
a
discussion
and
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
yeah.
So,
okay,.
G
T
T
It'll,
really,
you
know
house
all
of
the
non-residential
portions
of
the
apartment
building
which
will
have
you
know
a
fitness
area,
a
clubhouse,
co-working
space.
You
know
that
that
may
also
you
know
mail
room
and
some
some
of
those
spaces
are
shown
in
in
the
level
level.
One
plan
I
think,
is
it's
in
the
presentation
in
the
staff
report
and
then
those
do
comply
with
those
uses.
Do
comply
with
the
standards
of
the
TSA
UNC
zone
for
for
for
active
ground
floor
use.
T
E
T
F
T
E
B
A
S
A
A
U
So
before
I
start,
let
me
just
say
that
I,
don't
think
I've
seen
a
building
recently
more
appropriately
named
than
Encore,
which
just
goes
on
and
on
and
on
so
30
years
ago.
I
worked
on
the
East
downtown
master
plan,
which
was
a
rare
Maya
culpa
from
the
city
regarding
its
errors
in
land
use.
In
that
context,
it's
extraordinary
to
look
at
the
maps
provided
by
the
applicant
on
pages
14
and
15
of
the
staff
report.
That's
quite
a
makeover
in
the
last
30
years
and
most
of
it's
occurred
in
the
last
10
years.
U
One
of
the
issues
I
want
to
bring
to
your
attention.
Is
your
authority
to
require
schematics
of
the
impact
of
the
proposed
building
on
the
street?
Escape
I
am,
as
indicated,
appreciative
of
the
birds
I've
used
on
pages
14
and
15.
I
have
a
good
sense
of
how
the
new
building
will
fit
into
the
streetscape
on
400.
South
I
cannot
tell
what
the
streetscape
on
Denver
Street
will
look
like
based
on
the
information
the
applicant
has
provided.
U
B
B
Have
I
don't
know
how
this
time,
it's
literally
off
the
sidewalk
right
in
front
of
the
building,
and
if
that's,
what
is
going
to
be
required?
I
just
think
we
like
I
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it's
doing
any
service
to
the
people
of
the
citizens
of
the
city
to
say
sure,
we'll
build
a
building
and
your
windows
are
going
to
be
blocked.
On
this
entire
floor,
can.
V
V
E
Just
just
to
complete
the
discussion
about
that,
the
other
project,
the
post,
that
entire
thing,
which
has
tons
of
Housing
and
all
kinds
of
would
not
have
been
built
if
they
hadn't
been
able
to
accommodate
the
Billboards,
because
the
Billboards,
as
you
know,
have
the
right
to
refuse
to
be
moved.
And
so
they
have
a
lot
more
power.
And
so
so
the
fact
that
they,
somebody
is
behind
the
billboard,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
least
expensive
and
the
fastest
rented
unit
in
the
whole
place.
L
I
I
think
I
feel
like
we're
headed
for
discussion
about
what
counts,
as
active
use,
is
on
the
ground
floor
and
I
kind
of
hate
for
the
mail
room
to
count
shared
co-working
space
or
the
leasing
office,
or
something
like
that,
because
it's
not
that
active
more
than
one
tenant
will
use
it.
Probably.
But
it's
it
doesn't
feel
like
a
contribution
to
the
neighborhood
very
much.
G
Yeah
I
drove
down
400
South
on
my
way
here,
specifically
to
kind
of
check
in
on
how
that's
going,
because
we've
had
two
new
big
projects
just
by
the
library
go
in
and
there's
nothing
really
active.
There
was
a
restaurant
on
one
corner,
but
everything
else
is
just
dead.
Yeah,
there's
glass,
I'd
love
to
walk
by
and
look
at
your
mail
room
and
watch
your
tenants
work
out.
I
guess
so.
G
I'm
exceedingly
disappointed
at
these
projects
that
don't
really
go
to
the
to
the
point
where
we
want
to
have
that
activation
of
pedestrian
engagement
and
so
we're
getting
a
lot
of
apartments
and
no
multi-use
that
activates
the
streetscape
in
a
way
that
we've
all
been
continually
talking
about
envisioning.
So
if,
if
I'm
asked
tonight,
like
should
I
vote
to
approve
extending
Beyond
200
feet,
I'm
not
inclined
to
do
that
when
we're
not
getting
any
activation
out
of
this
we're
not
getting
anything
for
the
public
use.
G
Fourth
South
is
going
to
continue
to
just
be
a
disappointment
along
a
major
track
sign
that
we
should
be
capitalizing
on
actual
multi-use
and
we're
not
so
I'm
I,
don't
see
a
nice.
A
reason
for
me
to
be
like
yeah,
let's
see
now
extend
this
beyond
the
facade
of
200
feet
when
I'm
getting
a
mail
room
and
maybe
they'll,
throw
in
a
bike.
Storage
who
knows,
but
it
doesn't
doesn't
do
anything
for
the
city,
the
city,
objectives,
to
create
a
Vibrant,
Community
and
I
feel
like
those
are
just
continually
some
opportunities.
We
miss
I.
M
I,
concur
that
I,
don't
like
Porter
South
is
bad
and
just
doesn't
improve
it.
I
guess
I'm
questioning
it
seems
like
I,
don't
know
that
zoning
is
really
the
best
way
best
planning
tool
to
sort
of
address
these
problems
of
kind
of
not
having
enough
pedestrians
and
and
the
sort
of
viability
of
retail
like
I
guess.
I
would
rather
have
us
use
other
planning
tools
like
maybe
penalize
cars
above
a
certain
size
or
some
like.
M
There
are
other
planning
tools
out
there
other
than
zoning
that
other
cities
have
tried
like,
and
we
just
seem
to
be
like
everything's
going
on
zoning
and
land
use,
and
these
like
kind
of
micromanage,
I,
don't
know
I
I'm,
I,
agree,
I
hate
the
lack
of
activation.
It
has
long-term
effects
to
have
you
know
our
main
Corridor
not
have
amenities
that
people
can
walk
to
in
the
neighborhood
I.
Just
don't
know
that
like
not
allowing
not
allowing
this
development
is,
is
really
and
we've.
M
You
know,
we've
seen
many
developments
along
400
South
and
we
don't
seem
to
we
don't
seem
to
be
getting
there.
I,
guess
is
my
point
and
I'm
not
sure
that
additional
denials
of
these
sorts
of
applications
are
going
to
get
us
to
what
we
need
to
get
to
I.
Don't
know
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there.
I
wish.
We
had
other
planning
tools
because
I
don't
like
this
for
the
for
for
pedestrian
activation.
R
Yeah
I
agree
with
commissioner
gent,
especially
if
we're
talking
about
having
a
shortage
in
housing.
I
would
definitely
not
hold
up
this
development
because
out
of
all
the
buildings
that
are
there
that
are
failing
to
provide
a
vibrant
first
floor,
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
vote
against
this
I
know.
I
I
would
vote
in
favor
of
it
just
because
of
all
the
new
housing
that
it
brings
into
the
city.
E
E
It's
maybe
22
24
feet
wide,
and
that
is
not
a
really
viable
size
for
retail
space,
so
in
a
sense,
we're
cutting
off
the
possibility
of
the
future
of
of
this
as
a
as
a
more
as
a
restaurant
or
a
coffee
shop
or
anything
donut
shop
whatever,
because
we're
already
we're
already
saying
this
is
just
something
we're
putting
in
the
lobby
to
to
fulfill
the
obligation
to
have
an
activated
space.
I
mean
all
of
this
stuff
could
be
on
the
second
floor.
E
You
know
if
they
wanted
to,
or
they
could
widen
it
so
that
there
would,
you
know,
take
up
anyone
in
eight
places.
Eight
parking
spaces-
you
know
I
mean
that
could
be
done
in
the
future
as
well,
of
course,
but
it's
sort
of
one
of
those
problems
that
if
we
get
into
the
habit-
and
we
have
been
in
the
habit-
certainly
here
but
also
elsewhere-
of
having
this
extremely
narrow
spaces,
which
are
we
are
continuing
to
allow
to
be
called
activation-
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
good.
E
Maybe
we
do
have
a
better
definition
of
Street
activation
somewhere
than
to
say
you
know,
okay,
the
exercise
room
is
Sweet,
Street
activation
or
the
leasing
office
is
Street
activation
I,
don't
think
those
things
are
Street
Activation.
So
I
can
understand,
though,
that
we
can
say
you
know
you
this.
We
need
to
have.
We
need
to
have
these
uses,
but
the
uses
respond
to
the
market.
So
if
the
Market's
not
there,
we
also
don't
want
it
to
be
empty.
E
Some
places
they
consider
a
coffee
shop
to
be
an
amenity,
and
it's
actually
something
that
the
developer
gives
the
space
for
it
to
happen,
just
like
they're,
giving
the
space
for
co-working
or
Club
rooms
or
leasing
office.
So
that
is
a
also
something
that
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
as
as
these
are
amenity
spaces
for
the
for
the
for
the
residents.
M
E
Be
very
it's
not
designed
to
accommodate
a
restaurant
or
coffee
shop,
it
doesn't
have
any
of
the
utilities
it
doesn't
have.
You
know
any
of
the
things
where
grease
trap
and
other
things
for
a
restaurant
I
mean
there's,
there's
rules
and
it
would
be
expensive
to
retrofit
it
and
also
it's
it's
just
not
it's
a
very
narrow
space.
It's
really
narrow.
So
how.
T
So
you're
talking
about
the
depth
of
the
space,
so
the
well,
the
TSA
Zone
requires
I,
think
25
foot,
that's
the
minimum
and
and
and
in
the
building
on
the
I
guess
north
to
south
strip
of
space.
That
we
show
is
leasing,
offices
and
I.
Think
we're
just
around
there
25
feet
and
that's
just
you
know
to
get
parking
on
the
on
in
on
the
inside
of
the
parking
on
the
other
side.
Another
just
quick
thing
to
note
there
Denver
street
is
a
is
a
private
Street.
T
I
know
that
the
TSA
requirements
require
the
ground
activation
along
both
public
and
private
streets.
But
just
as
a
note
that
is
a
a
completely
private
Street
and
you
know
our
property
does
have
a
right-of-way
over
that
entire
piece,
just
as
a
small
side
note
but
yeah.
Hopefully
that
answers
your
question
well,.
L
There
you're
asking
for
a
40
increase
in
the
length
of
the
building
and
Denver
Street
will
be
the
worst
street
because
that
building
that's
already,
there
is
already
a
super
boring,
really
tall.
You
know
right
up
against
so
Denver's
going
to
be
the
worst
with
the
280
foot.
Long
building
that
has
a
drive-through.
Maybe
so
you
can
get
to
Starbucks.
Is
that
what
the
right
of
way
is
for
correct.
W
E
B
I
I
will
just
say:
I'm
I
walk
this
street
frequently
and
there
are
I
I
mean
I,
think
maybe
we've
already
covered
this
and
so
I'm
just
repeating,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
retail
spaces
that
I
think
are
intended
to
be
activating
for
the
street
and
none
of
them
are
full.
None
of
them
I
mean
there's
the
the
new
one
up
here
on
the
corner.
That's
like
a
Market
restaurant
bar
and
I.
B
Think
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
well
it
succeeds,
and
maybe
that's
because
they
left
sufficient
space
that
they
could
actually
rent
that
out.
But
you
look,
you
know,
for
example,
at
the
Quattro
there's
just
empty
space
that
is
just
kind
of
a
collecting
space
for
trash
out
in
front
of
that
I
mean
there's
nothing
that
activates.
That
I
also
think.
Quite
frankly,
4th
South
is
just
hard.
B
There's
no
parking
between
the
traffic
and
the
sidewalk,
there's
barely
any
break
between
where
you're
walking
and
where
traffic
is
speeding
by
I
mean
I,
don't
care
what
the
posted
speed
limit
is
there.
It
is
speeding
by
all
the
time
I
can
barely
walk
dogs
up
and
down
that
street.
Without
you
know,
one
of
us
have
to
having
to
step
off.
You
know
one
side
or
the
other,
and
so
I
just
think
you
know.
I
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
all
those
considerations
because
it
does
fit
in
with
all
of
the
rest.
B
E
J
E
These
things
take
time
to
develop.
It
really
I.
Remember
when
I
first
moved
here
20
years
ago,
we
were
talking
about
how
Force
South
was
going
to
just
pop
right
into
being
because
of
the
new
tracks,
and
you
know
here
it
is
20
years
later
and
it's
it's
popping
into
being,
but
it's
taken
20
years,
yep.
M
I
think
it
fits
perfectly
with
the
neighborhood
yep,
which
is
not
a
great
Corridor
I.
Think
that's
just
the
reality
of
force
South
is
that
it's
just
kind
of
a
planning
fail
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
like
denying
one
more
building
that
is
as
bad
as
all
the
others.
It
really
makes
a
difference.
I
don't
know
if
that's
very
optimistic,
but.
D
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
share
all
the
same
concerns
that
my
fellow
Commissioners
are
expressing,
but
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
the
project
for
us
to
to
try
to
change
that
with
so.
If
no
one
else
has
any
other
comments,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
based
on
the
information
presented
and
discussed
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
approve
the
proposed
design
review,
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
F
G
A
A
N
Sarah,
thank
you
chair.
So
this
is
a
designer
view.
Modification
for
the
Chicago
Street
Town
Homes
they're
located
at
they
are
located
at
928
West
South
Temple.
You
can
see
South
Temple
to
the
right
on
the
slide.
This
was
originally
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
back
in
January
of
2022..
It
received
approval
for
plan
development,
design,
review
and
preliminary
subdivision.
N
Tonight's
design
review
request
is
for
modifications
to
the
entry
feature
requirements,
so
the
request
is
to
modify
the
street
facing
doors
on
Chicago
Street
so
that
they're
perpendicular
to
the
street
there's
a
section
that
requires
that
the
ground
floor
and
to
have
a
primary
entrance
facing
the
street
for
each
unit.
That's
adjacent,
and
so
this
modification
relates
to
a
specific
standard
and
can't
be
reviewed.
Administratively.
There
was
another
minor
modification
from
ozone
previously
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission,
so
you
can
see
in
the
rendering
there
the
door
facing
perpendicular
to
the
street.
N
Y
Yeah,
my
name
is
Jared
Hall
good
evening.
My
presentation
is
super
short,
just
a
couple
of
slides,
showing
kind
of
what
was
approved
versus
what
we're
proposing.
We
feel
it's
a
pretty
minor
modification.
This.
The
intent
of
this
code
is
to
help
engage
the
streets
and
the
sidewalk
conditions.
So
the
view
right
now
is
the
what
was
approved
and
then
with
the
new
door
location
from
the
sidewalk.
You
start
to
see
those
doors
better
versus
it
would
be
very
perpendicular
to
perpendicular
to
you.
Otherwise
this
is
a
view.
A
D
B
X
F
A
Q
Q
Q
A
C
All
right,
thank
you,
I'm,
here
to
present
a
zoning
map
Amendment
and
text
Amendment
for
the
property
at
approximately
754
South,
State,
Street,
otherwise
known
as
the
former
Sears
site.
There's
two
requests
as
part
of
this
petition.
The
first
request
is
to
rezone
10
Parcels
from
D2
downtown
support,
District
to
D1
Central
business
district.
The
property
is
about
nine
acres
and
if
the
applicant
sorry
I
should
have
said
the
applicant
Tyler
buswell
with
Korean
McConkey
and
he
is
representing
IHC
Health
Services,
who
is
the
property
owner?
C
C
The
second
request
is
for
a
text
Amendment
to
the
table
of
permitted
and
conditional
uses
for
downtown
districts.
It
would
add
hospitals,
including
accessory
lodging
facilities
and
ambulance
services
to
the
D1
zoning
District
I,
provided
the
definitions
below
the
original
original
request
also
had
a
request
to
add
some
retail
services.
C
But
when
you
looked
at
the
definition
it
directed
you
to
land
uses
that
were
already
permitted
in
the
zone,
so
we
removed
that
from
the
from
the
request,
because
they
did
not
need
to
move
forward
with
that
planning
staff
is
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council
regarding
both
amendments:
here's
the
project
site,
it's
between
700
and
800,
South,
State
and
Main
Street.
If
the
text
amendment
is
approved,
it
would
allow
these
uses
in
the
area
highlighted
on
them
in
the
map
to
the
right.
C
It's
not
anticipated
that
another
hospital
use
would
be
proposed
in
the
downtown
area
because
you
need
a
lot
of
land
and-
and
this
would
probably
you
know,
fulfill
the
need
for
the
that
service
area,
but
potentially
ambulance
services
and
hospitals
would
could
go
into
these.
These
highlighted
blocks.
C
The
standards
for
General
amendments
that
were
reviewed
were
consistency
with
the
city's
Master
plans,
goals
and
policies.
Does
it
support
the
zoning
ordinance?
The
impact
of
the
Amendments
on
adjacent
properties
and
consistency
with
applicable
overlay
districts,
which
there
are
none
on
this
Zone
adequacy
of
public
facilities
and
services
to
serve
the
property,
and
that
is
that
speaks
directly
to
zoning
map
amendments
and
then
for
the
zoning
text.
Amendment.
The
extent
to
which
the
amendment
implements
best
practices
of
urban
planning
and
Design.
C
The
subject
property
is
located
at
the
southern
edge
of
the
downtown
area
in
the
South
State
Corridor.
It's
adjacent
to
the
central
ninth
neighborhood
in
an
area
also
referred
to
as
Midtown.
This
really
is
the
center
of
where
many
multiple
Community
councils
me
it's
in
the
ballpark
neighborhood,
though
the
downtown
area
is
expected,
the
growth
is
expected
and
it
is
appropriate
as
part
of
this
review.
C
Public
and
City
reviewer
comments
call
for
Street
activation,
breaking
up
the
block
and
high
quality
design,
specifically
of
the
public
realm.
If
these
amendments
move
forward
and
a
hospital
is
developed
on
this
site
plan,
Salt
Lake,
there
are
four
different
policies.
That's
this
zoning
map
and
text
Amendment
meets
neighborhoods
that
provide
a
safe
environment
opportunities
for
social
interaction
and
services
needed
for
the
well-being
of
the
community.
C
I
also
looked
at
the
development
potential
so
buy
right
in
the
D2
zoning
District
right
now
is
the
buy
right.
Height
is
65
feet.
The
applicant
has
stated
that
part
of
the
request
to
rezone
would
be
to
increase
the
development
potential
of
the
property,
and,
specifically,
additional
height,
may
be
requested
as
a
part
of
their
proposal
in
the
future.
In
the
current
zoning,
the
maximum
height
is
125
or
120
feet
with
design
review
approval.
C
The
zone
does
have
multiple
design
standards,
though,
relating
to
ground
floor
use,
visual
interest,
building
materials,
entrances
and
maximum
building
length.
The
current
D1
zoning
district
has
a
minimum
of
a
minimum
height
of
100
feet
with
a
maximum
of
100
or
375,
and
that
is
for
Corner
block
buildings,
which,
if
developed
this
property,
would
be
considered
a
corner
block
with
multiple
Corners.
There
is
no
height
limit,
though
in
the
D1
zoning
District.
C
What
design
review
approval
the
difference
between
the
D1,
really
the
D1
and
the
D2
other
than
this
height
is
the
D1
actually
has
less
design
standards
than
the
D1
does.
In
our
current
zoning
ordinance,
we
do
have
a
proposed
ordinance
that
has
been
transmitted
to
the
city
council
and
is
scheduled
for
a
briefing
on
April
4th
and
the
and
move
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation
from
Planning
Commission.
The
proposed
downtown
building,
Heights
and
Street
activation
text.
Amendment
would
eliminate
the
height
differences
between
corner
and
mid-block
lots
in
the
D1
zoning
District.
C
C
C
Also
looked
at
compatibility
of
this
zone
change
and
text
Amendment
with
adjacent
properties,
so
the
property
is
within
the
ballpark
Community
Council
it's
on
the
northernmost
Edge
and
it
actually
sits
right
in
between
downtown
central
ninth
and
the
Central
City
councils
within
600
feet.
So
all
of
those
community
councils
did
receive
a
public
public
or
a
notice
asking
for
feedback.
There
was
a
joint
community
council
meeting
held
here
in
this
room
with
the
applicant,
where
all
the
councils
came
together,
speak
with
applicant
and
ask
questions
about
the
proposal
to
the
north
of
this.
C
The
subject.
Property
is
downtown,
there's
small
scale,
restaurants
such
as
Sapa
and
smaller
scale,
retail
until
you
reach
that
downtown
area
and
then
things
are
escalate.
Intensity
to
the
east
is
the
Central
City
residential
neighborhood,
a
more
historic
single
family
homes
to
the
South,
medium
density,
residential,
commercial,
car
dealerships
along
State
Street,
as
well
as
the
West.
It's
an
older,
single-family
neighborhood,
but
transitioning
to
more
medium
density,
residential.
C
Here's
some
site
photos,
it's
very
large
site,
so
I
took
photos
from
all
of
the
public
streets,
some
surrounding
businesses
and
buildings.
So,
like
I
mentioned
before
Sapa
Sushi
is
directly
north
of
the
project
site
with
Frontage
on
State
Street
across
from
the
project
site
on
State
Street
are
some
vacant
buildings
that
were
being
renovated,
but
that
has
since
been
put
on
hold.
There
are
small
scale,
retail
and
Commercial
uses
along
800
South.
C
On
Main
Street
facing
north,
you
can
see
downtown
ground
America.
To
the
left
hand,
side
is
some
apartment
buildings,
and
then
you
also
see
on
Main
Street
towards
the
west
or
Auto
Body
car
dealerships
and
then
along
700
South.
There
are
more
vacant
buildings
and
smaller
scale,
retail
and
and
then
there's
two
businesses
directly
adjacent
to
the
site
on
700
South,
East,
east
of
the
subject
property
and
that
little
Nook
that's
carved
out
So,
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report.
M
C
Yeah,
so
what
I
was
speaking
to
was
going
through
the
design
review
process
for
additional
height,
and
then
the
references
I
have
are
for
the
D1
zone
so
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
All
of
these
would
be
these
are
the
changes
made
to
the
D1
zone,
so
they'd
be
applicable
if
the
zoning
was
changed,
but
projects
requesting
additional
height,
one
of
the
options
they
have
is
to
include
a
mid-block
walkway.
That's
not
already
called
out
on
a
master
plan
which
there's
not
one
in
the
downtown
master
plan
on
this
property.
E
M
C
Right
and
that's
what
I
just
wanted
to
speak
on
I
provided
this
information
just
because
it
has
been
transmitted
to
the
city
council
and
we
are
so
close
to
hearing
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
compare
the
two
zoning
districts,
as
is,
which
is
the
above
and
then
speak
to
what
could
happen
if
this
moves
forward,
which
we
expect
it
to
there
could
be
changes,
but
The
Proposal
will
most
likely
develop
under
gotcha.
M
E
You
indulging
me,
we
have
a
definition
of
Hospital
use
here.
How,
broadly,
is
that?
How
broad
do
you
think
that
definition
is,
would
it
be,
would
you
be
able
to
include
a
rehab
facility
in
that
definition?
Would
you
be
able
to
include
what
what
other
kinds
of
uses
I
mean?
We
all
think
of
Hospital
like
a
gigantic
building
with
gigantic
everything,
but
how
flexible
is
the
definition
of
that
use,
and
and
and
do
we
use
that
use
anywhere
else
in
the
city
as
a
you
know,
so,
I've
questioned
about
that.
E
I
know
I'm
actually
asking
from
the
from
the
definition
that
we
have
of
hospitals.
You
said
well
we're
not
going
to
build
another
hospital,
that's
only
if
you
think
of
hospitalists
this
gigantic
thing
with
the
ambulance
coming
and
going
and
all
the,
but
if
you
think
of
it
as
a
rehab
facilities
or
a
small,
you
know
something
something
else.
Much
smaller
scale
could
still
sneak
in
under
a
hospital
definition.
Not
sneaking
that's
not
the
right
word
to
say,
but
could
could
come.
E
You're
saying
this
is
probably
the
only
thing
in
the
D1
that
would
happen
when
you're
right,
if
you're
thinking
of
hospitals
as
a
20-story
building,
you
know
with
ambulances
and
stuff
coming
and
going,
but
if
you're
thinking,
but
if
somebody
clever
says
oh
well,
this
thing
I've
got
here
going
that
I've
got
this
little
clinic
with
a
rehab
center,
and
you
know
a
bunch
of
other
stuff
hanging
around
here,
I.
Just
it's
not
that
I
object
to
that
kind
of
use.
E
C
H
I'm
happy
to
answer
that,
so
we
have
other
definition:
land
use
definitions
in
our
code
for
those
like
Health
Care
Facilities,
like
what
you
described
so
hospital
is
different
and
because
those
other
uses
have
more
specific
definitions,
that's
how
they
would
apply
to
those
uses.
If
somebody
wanted
to
operate
one
of
those
and
they
are
allowed
in
almost
all
of
our
commercial
mixed
use,
zoning
districts
so.
G
A
H
H
I
was
just
going
to
answer
the
question
about
the
the
like
the
air,
ambulances
and
things
like
that:
the
helicopters
so
in
the
D1
Zone
we
do
allow
heliports,
and
so
that's
how
that
use
would
be
addressed
through
that.
So,
if
it
it's
allowed
now,
in
fact,
we
have
one
or
two
already,
and
so
this
would
be
something
that
they
could.
L
H
The
the
reason
why
we
would
we
would
look
at
like
a
hospital
difference
and
whether
it's
should
be
conditional
or
permitted
is
whether
or
not
we
think
that
there's
potential
detrimental
impacts
created
by
that.
So
obviously,
with
the
heliport
there's
an
Associated
noise,
there's
lights,
things
like
that
right,
so
that
would
be
a
reason
why
that
would
be
a
conditional
use.
The
hospital
in
and
of
itself
doesn't
necessarily
produce
impacts
that
are
any
different
than
other
permitted
uses
allowed
in
the
D1
Zone
that
can
be
generate.
H
A
AA
C
AA
Of
all,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
Amanda
for
the
excellent
work
on
the
staff
really
appreciate
the
all
the
work
that
goes
into
that
and
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
community,
who
has
been
very
engaged
with
us
on
this
project,
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
and
really
appreciate
the
input
from
our
community
members.
I'm
excited
to
be
here
to
talk
about
this
project
tonight.
AA
How
do
we
advance
those
slides
perfect
as
as
Heather
introduced
herself,
she
would
also
have
clinical
and
administrative
leadership
over
this
site
in
the
future
if
we're
allowed
to
build
the
services
here.
We
also
have
other
members
from
Intermountain
here
other
leaders
that
we
may
call
on
to
ask
questions
if
they
get
really
specific,
but
most
of
them
Heather
and
I
should
be
able
to
answer.
AA
I
won't
add
it
too
much.
Amanda
did
a
great
job
in
the
stat
presentation,
but
maybe
a
little
context
as
to
how
we
got
here
on
this
site
when
we
started
looking
for
places
where
we
may
build
these
types
of
services
and
Facilities.
These
are
some
of
the
considerations
that
we
looked
at
in
selecting
this
site,
and
so,
first
and
foremost,
is
access
for
our
patients
to
receive
these
services
and
access
our
facilities.
AA
We
also
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
picking
a
site
where
we
thought
the
city
would
be
supportive
in
terms
of
revitalizing,
an
area
anchoring
development
for
for
the
city
and
being
a
benefit
to
for
to
the
city.
We
thought
the
site
hit
that
criteria
as
well
and
another
really
important
factor
when
you
start
thinking
about
trying
to
assemble
that
much
acreage
in
in
an
urban
set
and
can
be
really
difficult.
AA
We
were
really
excited
by
this
opportunity
to
pick
up
this
much
acreage
at
one
time,
as
opposed
to
having
to
get
half
an
acre
every
three
or
four
years
and
assemble
that
which
would
have
been
really
difficult.
So
it
really
was
an
excellent
opportunity
for
us
to
to
pick
this
site
and
then,
of
course,
adequate
acreage
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we
say
adequate,
that
factor
is
in
it
to
this
being
an
urban
Hospital
right,
it's
very
different
than
any
of
our
other
Hospital
sites.
AA
So
in
relative
terms
it's
a
very
small
amount
of
acreage,
but
in
terms
of
being
in
an
urban
area,
it
was
gave
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
on
the
size
and
then,
of
course,
locating
it
in
a
place
where
we
are
able
to
recruit
Physicians
to
practice
at
this
location
was
important
to
us
and
Heather.
You
want
to
add
to
that
later.
Go
please,
go
ahead.
AA
Just
a
quick
comment
and
you'll
see
here
in
the
header
that
what
I
want
to
highlighted
I
mentioned
in
urban
facility,
one
of
the
most
common
feedback
that
we've
got
from
our
community
is:
do
you
guys
know
that
you're
going
to
build
an
urban
Hospital
right?
This
isn't
going
to
look
like
a
lot
of
the
other
places
and
certainly
want
to
express
that
we're
aware
of
that
that
this
would
be
different.
It
would
have
to
be
customized
to
where
it
is
on
the
amount
of
acreage,
but
but
the
impact
of
this
site.
AA
Here
we
just
put
a
few
statistics:
the
daily
flow
of
1700
employees
to
the
site.
Obviously,
when
Intermountain
builds,
maybe
just
go
to
the
next
slide,
some
examples
of
the
high
quality
construction
that
Intermountain
builds.
We
we
view
ourselves
as
committing
to
a
community
for
100
years.
We
want
to
be
an
anchor
for
here
and
we
we
build
our
facilities
that
way,
and
then
we
also
regularly
refresh
our
facilities.
We
keep
our
our
locations
and
hospitals
very
updated.
AA
Z
Z
I
did
want
to
provide
the
commission
with
a
little
bit
of
detail
as
to
what
a
what
a
hospital
looks
like
when
you
build
one
and
what
that's
what
those
Services
look
like,
something
that
I
think
is
a
really
fun
statistic
is
in
the
hospital
that
I'm
at
right.
Now
we
have
over
over
2
000
babies
that
are
born
annually,
so
we
basically
have
a
hundred
kindergarten
classes
that
come
through
our
our
facility
on
any
given
year.
Z
Z
I
also
want
to
call
out
something
that
is
also
important,
which
is
the
the
the
the
give
back
economically
that
you
see
with
a
hospital.
Little
you'll
see
that
10
000
surgery
number
one
of
the
things
that
is
super
unique
with
LDS
Hospital
right
now
and
again,
it
wouldn't
exactly
translate
perfectly
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
this
perspective.
Z
Is
we
had
patience
last
year
from
49
out
of
the
50
states,
come
and
choose
to
have
Care
at
LDS
Hospital,
many
of
them
flying
in
for
bone
marrow
transplants,
many
of
them
flying
in
for
surgeries
that
are
done
for
Cancer
Care.
That
are
not
done
really
anywhere
else
in
the
country
we
have
some
of
the
very
best
practitioners,
and
so
it
does
bring
individuals
that
are
deliberately
coming
to
Utah
and
coming
to
the
downtown
area
for
health
care,
and
so
I
thought
that
was
important
to
note.
Z
The
other
statistic
on
there
is
just
a
number
we
do
over
57
000
Imaging
exams
and
what
that
does
is
provides
preventative
care,
as
well
as
other
types
of
care
for
patients
that
need
them.
Do
you
mind
going
to
the
next
slide?
Please
one
of
the
things
that,
as
we
started
to
Think
Through,
the
idea
of
building
an
or
an
urban
Hospital
in
a
downtown
area
was
try
our
best
to
understand
both
the
needs
of
the
community,
as
well
as
the
wants
of
the
community,
and
so
we
started
asking
questions
to
the
community.
Z
We
actually
started
a
survey
with
the
downtown
and
adjacent
areas
trying
to
understand
what
the
community
would
want
and
need.
We
paired
that
with
direct
Community
connections
with
businesses
that
will
be
our
neighbors
and
and
some
of
the
the
individuals
that
own
those
businesses.
This
is
a
really
big
deal
to
us
as
you
build
a
hospital
you
become
part
of
the
community,
and
so
it
should
be
expected
of
us
that
we
are
making
these
connections
with
the
individuals
that
would
want
access
to
those
Services,
as
well
as
the
community
neighbors.
Z
They
can
walk
to
their
shift
in
the
snow
should
they
need
to,
and
it
is
something
that
is
we
started
to
ask
caregivers
from
across
the
state
around.
This
was
something
that
was
both
different
and
really
exciting.
Is
the
ability
to
live
and
work
in
an
adjacent
space
and
I
believe?
That's
probably
it
all
right
so
again,
thank
you
for
the
chance
to
explain
a
little
bit
as
to
what
we
expect
this
will
bring
to
the
community,
knowing
that
this
is
really
the
just
the
request
for
the
zoning
change
at
this
point.
AA
Taylor
I'll
just
add
one
more
comment:
you
talked
about
the
community
engagement,
there's
a
letter
in
the
packet
from
a
lot
of
the
downtown
community
members,
and
we've
also
had
several
conversations
and
really
a
lot
of
those
points
are
things
that
we
are
aligned
with
and
and
really
the
Zone
requests
that
we're
asking
here
tonight
is
going
to
allow
us
to
consider
those
those
requests
and
needs
better
than
currently
situated.
So,
okay.
W
A
quick,
I
guess,
question
comment:
slash
I,
like
hospitals,
I've
been
actually
a
patient
at
your
hospital
at
LDS
and
I.
Had
great
treatments.
I
have
great
experience
there.
The
just
for
my
own
personal
dimensional
analysis
would
basically
the
same
how
how
many
acres
is
LDS
Hospital?
Is
it
about
it's.
Z
Great
question
that
I
I
think
we're
just
in
the
process
of
asking
those
questions.
You
know
what
services
should
potentially
be
placed
at
that
new
Urban
Hospital.
What
does
that
size
and
scope?
Look
like
that?
Our
patients
need,
and
so
we're
really
just
in
in
the
stages
of
saying
what
services
should
be
present
and
appropriate
for
a
downtown
hospital.
Is
that
a
fair
answer?
Bentley
yeah.
AA
Z
Is
a
great
question
and
I'm
gonna
I,
as
as
we
go
kind
of
through
what
that
looks
like
it's
it's
in
it's
in
the
few
hundred
number
we
we
usually
have
about
on
any
given
day,
150
plus
patients
that
are
that
are
present,
as
admitted
patients
in
the
hospital,
and
then
you
also
have
a
lot
of
individuals
that
are
there
with
their
families
or
therefore
outpatient
procedures.
So
I'd,
say
multiple
hundred
and
I
can
get
you
a
better
number
than
that.
E
S
AA
I,
don't
think
that
we've
gotten
to
that
point.
Yet
a
lot
of
that
would
depend
on
what
happens
here
tonight
in
the
zoning
and
if
we're
allowed
to
go
higher
with
some
of
the
other
facilities,
then
that's
going
to
impact
the
parking
and
whether
we
park
it
up
or
down
or
out.
We
haven't
got
to
that
yet
and
then
or
what
the
ratios
might
be
required.
I,
don't
we're
not
quite
there.
AA
Well,
I
just
mean
we
haven't,
we
haven't
designed
like
where
the
parking
would
be
on
the
site.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying,
but
our
intent
would
be
parking
on
that
site
for
the
all
the
services
that
are
offered
there.
I,
don't
know
what
your
question
was
in
terms
of
like
where
we
would
how
we
would
stack
it
or
below.
M
That
is
a
slightly
different
design
and
I
think
that
would
probably
be
consistent
with
the
request
you're
getting
from
the
community.
This
is
a
you
know,
not
something
we
can
address
in
a
zoning
change,
but
I
would
hope
you
would
consider
this
in
the
design
down
the
road
that
we
don't.
We
don't
want
more
than
adequate.
Z
Parking
and
what
I
would
what
I
would
ref?
What
I
would
say
to
that
is
that
was
actually
part
of
the
reason
we
were
so
excited
about
where
this
block
was
in
relation
to
tracks
just
for
point
of
reference,
if
you're
a
patient
or
a
caregiver
right
now
trying
to
make
your
way
up
to
LDS
Hospital,
it
typically
takes
a
track
sign
into
bus
transfers
to
be
able
to
get
there,
and
that
is
the
exact.
You
know
that.
Z
That's
why
this
was
so
extremely
attractive
in
how
we
assure
that
individuals
that
need
health
care
services
or
that
are
providing
them,
have
the
ability
to
get
there
without
a
car.
So
I
I,
very
much
appreciate
that
and
and
I
would
love
for
you
to
understand
that
that
was
a
big
draw
for
why
we
chose
to
consider
this
location.
A
A
AB
Oh
yeah,
there
hi
everyone,
so
Tom,
Merrill,
downtown
community
council
and
we've
been
engaging
with
the
Intermountain
folks.
Since
the
beginning,
we've
been
we've
been
pushy,
we
are
excited
to
have
Intermountain
join
the
downtown
area.
We
think
that
this
is
just
a
Monumental
opportunity.
We
want
them
to
have
all
the
height
in
the
world.
We
don't
think
the
parking
is
going
to
be
an
issue
because
everyone's
going
to
live
in
the
35
story,
residential
high-rise,
there
won't
be
a
parking.
There
won't
be
room
for
a
parking
lot.
AB
Our
our
requests
are
well
documented.
In
the
letter
like
I
said,
we've
been
pushy,
we're
excited.
We
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
just
a
really
important
development
really
going
to
create
a
bit
of
a
an
important
anchor
in
the
southern
part
of
downtown.
Our
main
request
came
up
in
our
meeting
with
the
Planning
Commission,
and
it
is
again
in
the
spirit
of
being
pushy
that
we'd
love
to
see
a
concept
plan
at
the
minimum,
ideally
a
development
agreement
prior
to
D1
zoning.
AB
The
reason
for
that,
despite
the
trust,
the
good
faith
conversations
that
have
already
taken
place
is
we
do
know
that
Intermountain
is
a
big
organization.
They
now
span
multiple
States,
there's
a
lot
of
disparate
Financial
requirements,
and
we
know
that
things
could
change
and
really
what
we
want.
It's
it's
we're
like
the
pushy
group
of
friends
trying
to
support
our
friend
with
our
New
Year's
resolution.
We
want
as
much
early
public
commitment
as
possible
to
keep
this
on
that
track
and
to
to
hold
us
all
to
what
we
know
is
a
really
special
opportunity.
AB
Additionally,
we
do
think
that
from
a
community
benefit
standpoint,
which
is
kind
of
unique
right,
it's
it's
why
we
haven't
been
as
pushy
with.
Not
all
the
developers
that
come
downtown
is
because
they
are
a
non-profit
and
part
of
that
is
to
provide
a
community
benefit.
Obviously,
the
community
has
to
have
a
good
amount
of
input
into
that
into
what
benefits
the
community,
and
we
think
that
earlier
we
can
start
seeing
how
this
is
shaping
up
and
we
totally
get
that
things
are
preliminary,
that
we
can
give
proper
input.
AB
So
that's
kind
of
our
general
approach
and
but
but
like
I
said
we
want
them
to
get
we
want.
We
want
them
to
have
the
height.
We
want
them
to
take
full
advantage
of
the
public
transportation
and
to
really
build
something
special
and
we're
here
to
be
good,
Community
Partners.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
U
Yes,
so
I
want
to
talk
about
the
impacts
on
the
Central
City
Community,
which
is
residential
directly
to
the
north
east
of
this
site,
and
I
do
think
that
it's
ludicrous
to
say
that
single-family
homes
in
Central
City
will
not
be
adversely
affected.
They
are
already
being
adversely
affected
by
development
pressures
for
higher
density.
You
don't
have
to
look
any
further
than
the
pending
Redevelopment
of
Western
Gardens
to
see
what
the
impact
of
a
project
like
the
one
proposed
by
IHC
is
likely
to
have.
U
The
only
thing
that's
occurred
at
Western
Gardens,
so
far,
they're
still
in
business
for
spring
plants
is
that
the
zoning
has
taken
place
and
already
we
are
seeing
people
move
away
from
Hawthorne,
Court
and
600
South,
so
construction
has
not
even
begun
and
Western
Gardens
is
in
a
historic
district.
So
the
impacts
of
this
proposal
to
my
way
of
thinking
having
a
lot
of
experience
in
Central
City,
are
going
to
radiate
out
into
Central,
City
and
I
believe
they'll
radiate
out
in
all
directions.
U
Some
of
those
impacts
are
going
to
be
positive
and
some
will
be
negative.
That
will
depend
on
how
things
get
implemented.
Not
only
by
IHC
but
by
other
people
who
tag
along
I
am
concerned,
in
addition
to
the
impact
on
the
lower
density
residences
in
Central
City
about
the
heliport
I
have
personal
experience
with
a
flight
path
which
used
to
come
right
over
my
bedroom
and
the
first
time
the
helicopter
came
right
over
my
bedroom.
U
I
sat
straight
up
in
bed
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
I'm
very
fortunate
that
the
trauma
care
was
discontinued
at
the
closest
hospital,
but
having
a
flight
path
over
your
house
is
nothing
fun
if
the
hospital
engages
in
frequent
trauma
care.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
additional
height
in
the
D1
Zone
and
I'm,
not
opposed
to
the
D1
zone
for
this
property
or
additional
height.
U
B
I'm
going
to
jump
in
really
quick
and
if
everyone
will
indulge
me,
I
was
one
of
those
people
that
came
from
another
state.
When
I
was
14
actually
I
had
cancer
and
I
people,
I
say:
I
came
to
Salt
Lake
for
treatment,
they
assume
it
was
Primary
Children's,
but
LDS
Hospital
was
the
one
with
the
I,
don't
even
know
the
word
oncology
radiologist
that
was
sufficient
to
treat
me
and
so
I
appreciate
the
work
you
do
very
very
much
this
to
me
is
a
no-brainer.
The
city
is
developing.
B
We
need
centralized
Health,
Care,
Emergency
Care
trauma
care
all
of
it.
Maybe
some
of
us
don't
like
the
fact
that
the
city
is
getting
larger
and
higher
and
noisier,
but
we
are
trying
to
be
a
central
large
city
and
I
think
Leading
The
Way
with
a
hospital.
That's
taking
this
swath
of
property.
That
was
previously
a
dilapidated
Sears
store.
B
I,
can't
think
of
a
better
use
of
that.
Quite
frankly,
as
soon
as
I
saw
this
in
our
packet,
I
was
very
excited
and
thought
this
will
be.
A
great
Intermountain
has
is
a
great
partner
in
all
the
communities
where
they
develop.
They
give
back
to
the
communities
that
they
develop
in
and
I
just
don't
see
a
downside
at
all,
I
think
some
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
parking
concept
plans,
all
of
those
are
regulated
by
other
rules.
B
M
M
I
I
think
that
I,
you
know
I'm
I'm
sympathetic
in
principle,
I,
don't
think
a
development
agreement
is
out.
I,
think
that
would
give
the
city
council
a
little
bit
of
ability
to
negotiate
sort
of
key
points
and
what
the
neighborhood
councils
want
to
see.
I
agree:
full
site
renderings
might
be
a
little
bit
extreme
at
this
point,
but
I
think
saying.
M
Pursuant
to
a
you
know
a
change
from
D2
to
D1,
with
an
attachment
of
a
development
agreement
with
city
council,
and
hopefully
the
community
councils
can
bring
their
concerns
and
what
they
want
to
see
to
city
council
I
think
that
just
gives
a
little
bit
of
power
to
city
council,
because
this
is
going
to
shape
our
downtown.
This
is
not
9,
acres
and
I.
Don't
think
it
should
be
a
huge
impediment
in
the
development
process
to
have
some
give
city
council
a
little
bit
of
leeway.
M
I,
don't
people
who
are
more
familiar
with
development
agreements
can
talk
way
in,
but
I
think
it's
nine
acres,
that's
huge
that
hugely
influences.
What
sort
of
businesses
we
have
downtown?
What
sort
of
residence
we
have?
It's
a
huge
opportunity
and
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
see
it
squandered
with
like
400
South,
just.
C
A
M
E
E
R
Yeah
I
think
I
I
hear
both
sides
of
everything
that
has
been
shared,
but
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
Gail
that
it's
a
hospital.
We
have
a
lot
of
track
history
with
Intermountain,
Healthcare
and
I'm
ready
to
make
a
vote
and
voting
favor
of
it,
but
I
we
can
have
more
discussions
and
when
he
comes
to
parking
again,
just
because
everyone
voices
their
opinion
against
parking,
I
have
double
eyes.
My
opinion
in
favor
of
parking
that
everyone's
aware
of
Love
barking
put
plenty
of
parking
there.
R
All
four
of
my
children
are
born
at
LDS,
Hospital,
I
love
the
fact
that
I
could
get
off
work
run
up
there
find
parking
easily
see
them
go
back
to
work.
We
need
Park.
If
I
had
to
take
the
train
and
buses,
geez
I
would
be
traveling
for,
like
I,
don't
know
how
long
it
takes
to
go
from
Cottonwood
Heights
to
LDS
Hospital
a
few
times
a
day,
but
anyway,
thank
you.
L
D
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here,
I
yeah
I
definitely
support
having
a
hospital
built
on
this
site
and
am
supportive
of
it
being
being
rezoned
to
D1
one.
One
recommendation
that
I
I
would
love
to
see
as
this
moves
forward.
I
would
highly
recommend
that
you
come.
We
didn't
take
advantage
of
a
work
session
prior
to
any
design
review
or
conditional
use
review.
D
One
issue
I
do
have
is
that
I
would
only
be
comfortable
making
this
rezone
if
the
uses
that
the
applicant
has
asked
to
be
permitted
uses
were
instead
conditional
uses,
and
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
see
in
our
in
our
motion
to
the
city
council.
I
am
not
quite
a
hundred
percent
committed
to
the
concept
of
of
us
recommending
development
agreement,
but
I
am
leaning
towards
it,
because
I
feel
like
this
is
a
very
substantial
Redevelopment.
D
That
I
would
really
like
to
see
it
be
a
high
quality
environment
that
is
as
much
as
a
hospital
can
be
that
it
can
be
focused
out
towards
the
community
rather
than
be
focused
in
Word,
and
would
really
want
to
see
that
to
be
a
walkable
development
that
really
encourages
Transit
use.
Instead
of
driving
there.
Z
So
as
we
think
through
the
very
large
patient
population
that
we
serve
and
the
demographic
that
we
serve.
This
is
meant
to
provide
better
access,
better
equity
and
better
better
means
for
individuals
to
access
health
care
that
they
may
have
historically
said.
You
know
what
I'm
I'm
going
to
not
choose
to
access
health
care,
so
it
is
meant
to
be
an
an
open
invitation
for
individuals
who
have
a
need
for
health
care
to
to
see
a
urban
hospital
and
access
that
Urban
Hospital.
M
Z
Z
The
urban
hospital
that
we
are
looking
to
build
is
not
a
trauma,
one
Center,
and
so
we
will
absolutely
have
the
Need
For
Life
Flight
to
either
bring
patients
to
our
facility
or
send
them
to
a
different
higher
level
of
care
because
they
need
that
trauma.
But
to
directly
answer
your
question,
I
would
say
again
using
just
LDS
Hospital
as
a
reference.
Z
It's
a
one
to
two
time
per
week,
instance
and
some
weeks
we
go
with
zero
helicopters
some
days,
especially
for
patients,
and
that
we
can
help
I,
hear
them
once
or
twice
a
day
and
I
welcome
that,
because
it
means
we
can
help
those
individuals
in
those
in
those
helicopters.
But
again
to
answer
the
question
directly
one
to
two
times
a
week
is
what
the
hospital
that
we're
at
right
now
typically
sees
in
in
air
traffic.
B
B
A
P
D
P
A
M
D
Okay,
I'll
make
a
substitute
motion
then,
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
city
council
approved
plnpcm,
2022-00
or
excuse
me
zero
one.
One,
zero,
nine
with
the
following
conditions:
the
uses
requested
by
the
applicant
to
be
added
to
the
table
of
permit
and
conditional
uses
for
downtown
districts
as
permitted
uses
in
the
D1
Zone
should
instead
be
added
to
the
table
as
conditional
uses.
M
A
A
F
A
J
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
N
So
we
are
here
to
discuss
the
affordable
housing
incentives
for
tonight's
briefing.
I
wanted
to
give
an
overview
of
the
proposal
and
then
go
over
a
few
examples
of
how
it
could
apply
in
different
zoning
districts.
That
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
efforts
since
May
of
2022
when
we
had
a
public
hearing
on
this
item,
wanted
to
go
over
the
development
scenarios
that
we
worked
on
with
members
of
the
development
Community.
N
Also,
the
office
of
the
mayor
convened
a
focus
group
and
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
focus
group
and
its
recommendations
and
then
also
wanted
to
start
responding
to
the
questions
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
at
the
public
Hearing
in
May,
2022
and
I.
Don't
expect
to
get
through
all
of
those
questions
this
evening,
but
we
do
have
a
work
session
scheduled
for
next
Wednesday.
So
we'll
continue
the
responses
at
that
meeting
and
then
also
discuss
some
additional
modifications
that
have
been
made
to
the
proposal
since
last
year.
N
The
idea
behind
them
is
to
make
taxpayer
dollars
go
further
by
allowing
for
more
development
right
for
properties.
There
are
a
few
different
ways
that
this
can
work
in
projects
that
already
have
affordable
units
proposed.
They
may
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units
or
it
may
enable
the
developer
to
provide
units
that
are
affordable
to
those
with
lower
Amis,
and
that
may
also
enable
market
rate
development
to
provide
affordable
units
and
on
smaller
Properties
or
in
other
areas.
It
may
provide
options
for
property
owners
to
provide
new,
affordable
housing
units.
N
So
I
wanted
to
talk
about
what
affordable
is
we're.
Looking
at
the
2022
income
guidelines
by
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
for
the
Salt
Lake
City
metro
area,
and
so
this
includes
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
Tooele
County.
They
have
a
different
groupings,
the
first
for
extremely
low
income.
Affordable
units
accommodates
those
earning
up
to
30,
Ami
and
then
very
low
income
units
accommodate
those
earning
between
30
and
50
Ami
and
the
low
income
units
accommodate
those
earning
between
50
and
80.
N
N
Then
I
wanted
to
take
a
look
at.
Where
is
multi-family
housing
permitted
in
Salt
Lake
City?
You
can
see
where
we
are
downtown
and
the
various
zoning
districts
that
permit
multi-family
housing
surrounding
surrounding
this
area
in
in
downtown,
and
that
also
includes
commercial
districts
that
include
other
uses
as
well,
and
you
can
see
concentrations
of
these
areas
also
along
corridors
like
Redwood,
Road
and
300.
West
also
wanted
to
highlight
where
single
and
two
family
districts
are
located
throughout
the
city.
N
You
can
see
them
surrounding
the
areas
where
multi-family
is
located
both
on
the
east
and
west
sides.
There
is
no
a
single
or
two
family
districts
that
are
to
the
west
of
I-215,
and
so,
when
you
put
this
together,
housing
is
permitted
in
less
than
20
percent
of
the
land
area
of
the
city.
There
are
significant
areas
of
the
city
where
housing
is
not
permitted,
include
City
Creek,
Canyon
areas
like
the
airport
and
some
industrial
areas
that
are
located
to
the
south
of
that
wanted
to
just
highlight
some
of
the
process.
N
N
N
So
moving
on
to
the
proposal
itself,
it
is
an
incentive-based
proposal
and
there
are
several
different
ways
that
this
can
apply.
One
is
that
additional
height
could
be
permitted.
There
could
be
additional
building
types,
there
could
be
process,
modifications
or
waivers
or
modification
of
specific
development
standards
and
again
it's
an
incentive-based
proposal
rather
than
an
inclusionary
proposal
where
the
units
would
be
required.
N
N
This
particular
property
has
about
25
000
square
feet
or
a
little
over
half
an
acre,
and
it
has
95
units
and
97
parking
spaces
and
in
the
TSA
zoning
districts,
projects
that
have
a
development
score
that
qualify
for
administrative
review
are
eligible
for
an
increase
in
height
in
this
particular
building.
Had
an
administrative
development
review
score,
it
has
an
extra
height,
so
it's
a
total
height
of
83
feet.
N
8
inches
wanted
to
mention
that
the
surrounding
properties
are
either
the
same:
zoning
District
or
the
TSA
UCC
zoning
District,
which
has
a
maximum
height
of
90
feet,
and
so,
if
the
affordable
housing
incentives
are
put
in
place,
an
additional
two
stories
could
be
added.
However,
this
would
require
affordable
units
for
those
extra
stories
and
with
the
modifications
to
the
incentives.
There
are
some
additional
options
for
affordable
units
and
I'll
talk
about
those
as
I
go
through
the
description
of
the
proposal
and
respond
to
the
commission's
questions.
N
N
That
I
was
discussing
it's
about
27
000
square
feet
and
there
are
qualifying
Provisions
in
the
RMF
zoning
districts
that
require
certain
square
footage
per
unit,
so
for
this
particular
site,
there's
enough
of
square
footage
to
allow
for
13
units
with
this
project,
10
were
built
and
there
were
a
total
of
24
parking
spaces
and
20
were
required,
and
so
with
the
proposal
could
potentially
affect
this
property
by
removing
the
density
requirement.
So
this
could
allow
for
additional
units.
N
It
would
lower
the
parking
requirement
to
one
space
per
unit
and
it
could
also
allow
for
buildings
without
Street
Frontage.
Without
a
plan
development,
it
would
not
allow
for
additional
height
and
it
would
not
allow
for
additional
building
coverage
and
for
a
project
to
use
the
kind
of
those
those
aspects
of
the
incentives
it
would
need
to
meet.
The
affordability
requirements
and
the
affordability
requirements
for
the
RMF
zones
are
different
than
those
for
the
multi-family.
It
makes
you
zoning
districts
and
they
are,
they
do
require
a
higher
percentage
of
units
for
the
most
part.
N
The
third
and
last
example
I
wanted
to
go
over
relates
to
two
duplexes
that
are
on
27th
South.
They
are
in
the
R1
r17000
zoning
district,
and
this
property
is
about
29
000
square
feet.
So
just
over
two-thirds
of
an
acre,
the
r1000s
r17000
zoning
District
permits
single-family
homes
and
prior
to
1995,
with
the
R2
zoning
District,
which
does
permit
duplexes.
N
So
one
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
since
this
proposal
came
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
was
put
together
development
scenarios
and
performance.
We
did
this
for
multi-family
and
mixed-use
properties
and
looked
at
concrete
and
steel
construction
and
also
wood
frame
construction
looked
at
affordable
developments,
including
a
permanent
Supportive
Housing
Development
and
lie
Tech
projects.
Those
are
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
projects
and
then
also
looked
at
the
single
and
two
family
zoning
districts
and
specifically
looked
at
duplex
fourplex
and
townhouses.
N
N
We
reviewed
and
discussed
the
proposed
incentives
and
specifically
highlighted
those
that
had
the
most
Community
concerns.
We
held
four
meetings
with
them
in
2022
and
they
recommended
a
number
of
changes
to
the
proposal.
The
four
topics
that
we
discussed
with
the
focus
group
were
affordability,
level,
neighborhood,
impacts
enforcement
and
infrastructure.
N
The
recommendations
of
the
focus
group
just
to
highlight
these
and
then
I'll
go
into
more
detail
as
I
go
through
the
responses
to
the
Planning
Commission
questions.
They
recommended
removing
the
proximity
to
Transit
and
our
Taylor
Road
requirements.
They
also
recommended
to
have
an
incentive
to
preserve
existing
housing.
N
So
first
I
wanted
to
start
getting
into
their
response
to
the
planning
commission's
questions.
The
first
is:
can
there
be
a
lower
Ami
level
and
higher
percentage
of
affordable
units?
So
we
looked
at
these
for
both
the
multi-family
and
mixed-use
Zoning
districts,
and
also
the
single
and
two
family
zoning
districts.
N
N
So
in
this
example,
you
have
a
project
that
would
have
80
units
it'd
all
be
one
bedroom
units,
so
at
market
rate,
the
rent
for
each
of
these
units
would
be
eighteen
hundred
and
forty
one
dollars
and
the
development
cost
for
this.
Particular
development
would
be
23.2
million
dollars
and
So.
Based
on
this,
the
maximum
loan
that
a
bank
would
be
willing
to
lend
would
be
nearly
16
million
about
35
or
35.
N
N
And
so
we
also
talked
at
the
last
meeting
about
what
would
happen
if
you
had
a
higher
percentage
of
the
units
as
affordable
and
then
also
having
that
higher
percentage
of
units
be
at
a
lower
Ami,
and
so
in
this
first
example.
Here
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
half
of
the
units
at
market
rate
and
then
half
of
the
units
at
30
Ami,
and
so
you
have
that
same
development
cost
there.
The
maximum
loan
that
a
bank
would
be
willing
to
lend
would
be
about
8.8
million.
N
N
N
N
It
would
be
wood
frame
construction,
it
would
be
a
similar
same
size
site
and
then
in
this
performa
we
only
added
one
additional
floor.
Generally,
we
weren't
wanting
to
add
more
than
one
floor
in
these
zoning
districts
because
of
where
they're
located
around
the
city-
and
there
was
a
sufficient
return
for
development
with
all
options
on
these
adding
that
extra
floors.
N
This
was
going
from
one
like
a
first
floor,
Podium
and
then
floor
for
four
floors
above
to
a
first
floor,
Podium
and
five
floors
above
and
actually
decreased
their
return
with
the
additional
height
because
of
the
increased
construction
cost
due
to
a
change
in
building
type.
So
it's
important
to
always
remember
that,
just
because
we're
allowing
for
more
doesn't
necessarily
make
it
more
favorable.
N
So
for
this
we
talked
with
Chris,
Parker
and
Amanda
Dillon
of
give
group,
and
we
talked
about
a
permanent
Supportive
Housing
project.
That's
in
an
RMF
zoning
district,
and
so
with
a
proposal.
It
would
remove
that
density
restriction,
that's
on
the
site,
but
the
proposal
on
the
affordable
housing
incentives
proposal
does
have
a
limit
on
the
number
of
smaller
units.
N
We
also
looked
at
a
couple
tax
credit
projects.
The
first
the
Avia
is
a
four
percent
tax
credit
project,
and
so
that
would
allow,
if
you
had
the
additional
two
stories
and
increase
in
the
number
of
units
from
286
to
367
and
then
from
the
citizens.
West
project
would
allow
for
an
additional
increase
in
units
with
those
two
floors
from
80
to
114,
but
as
a
nine
percent
tax
credit
project
that
might
not
work
with
the
way
that
tax
credits
are
funded
and
right.
N
So
the
summary
for
these
is
that
the
three
options
from
May
2022
do
provide
a
small
incentive
to
Developers
having
a
lower
Ami
level.
Oops
requires
a
lower
percentage
of
units.
A
higher
percentage
of
units
would
likely
require
a
subsidy
to
implement
and
the
incentives
could
provide
additional
units
and
buildings
that
already
have
affordable
units.
N
So
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
talk
about
the
work
that
we
did
with
the
single
and
two
family
zoning
districts.
In
the
May
2022
proposal
we
had,
we
had
allowances
for
the
single
family
and
two
family
zoning
districts
that
was
near
high
frequency,
transit
or
adjacent
to
artiller
roads.
We've
changed
that
and
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later.
N
So,
with
the
current
proposal
for
a
new
construction,
I
wanted
to
just
outline
some
of
the
requirements
so
for
the
single
and
two
family
zoning
districts,
it
would
not
allow
for
an
increase
in
height
from
the
base
zoning
District.
So,
for
example,
most
of
the
r15000
and
r17000
Zoning
districts
allow
a
maximum
height
of
28
feet.
It
would
not
allow
for
an
increase
in
the
building
coverage
permitted.
The
setbacks
would
apply
to
the
perimeter
of
the
development.
N
It
would
not
allow
for
a
reduction
in
the
yards
or
the
setbacks,
except
between
the
buildings
that
would
that
would
not
fall
into
that
category.
There
would
not
be
a
minimum
lot
width,
one
parking
space
would
be
required
per
unit
and,
as
before,
50
of
the
units
would
need
to
be
affordable
to
80
Ami.
There
is
a
new
incentive
for
preserving
existing
housing
and,
in
addition
to
those
all
other
city
regulations,
including
building
code
fire
code
and
Public
Utilities
requirements,
would
apply,
as
I
mentioned
before.
N
One
of
the
recommendations
from
the
focus
group
was
to
remove
the
proximity
to
Transit
and
arterial
roads
requirement.
We
were
removing
this
and
based
on
the
number
of
changes
that
have
occurred,
especially
in
the
past
few
years,
to
the
bus
routes
throughout
the
city
and
those
still
aren't
necessarily
back
to
where
they
were
a
few
years
ago,
and
that
includes
kind
of
the
decreased
frequency
and
also
just
changes
to
the
routes
themselves.
And
by
removing
this
it
also
has
the
effect
of
increasing
the
equitable
distribution
of
the
additional
housing
types.
N
N
So
you
can
see
in
the
graphic
there
that
existing
dwelling
would
be
the
one
to
the
front
and
it
would
allow
for
a
second
detached
dwelling
on
the
property
that
would
be
the
dwelling
unit
to
the
rear
and
it
they
also
recommended
lowering
the
affordability
requirement
from
50
percent
to
one
of
the
units
on
the
property
and
in
this
situation
the
existing
setbacks,
height
and
lock
coverage
would
apply
so
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
how
those
setbacks
would
apply.
So
this
shows
how
they
would
apply
to
the
perimeter
of
the
property.
N
You
would
have
the
20-foot
front,
yard
setback,
the
20,
foot,
25
foot,
rear
yard
setback
and
then
the
side
yard
setbacks
as
well
on
this
particular
graphic
shows
a
detached
garage
based
on
some
of
the
lock
coverage
requirements
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
something
that
would
fit
if
you
had
that.
Second
detached
dwelling.
N
This
is
an
example
for
the
r15000
zoning
district
and
the
center
image
there
shows
the
existing
dwelling
and
then
to
the
rear
would
be
the
second
dwelling
in
this
particular
example
of
a
lot
is
about
4
800
square
feet.
It's
important
to
note
that,
just
because
it's
the
R1
5000
zoning
District,
that
doesn't
mean
that
all
lots
are
5
000
square
feet.
N
One
more
example
for
the
r112000
zoning
District:
this
shows
an
existing
dwelling,
a
second
detached
dwelling
to
the
rear,
and
then,
in
this
particular
example,
it
shows
a
basement
Adu,
that's
added
to
that.
Existing
dwelling
and
an
Adu
would
count
as
a
unit
on
the
property
in
this
with
the
incentives.
N
The
focus
group
also
recommended
an
increase
in
the
design
standards
from
what
was
previously
proposed.
The
existing
requirements
from
the
May
2022
proposal
required
a
building
entrance
on
each
Street
facing
facade
15
glass
on
each
floor.
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
their
row
house
garage
doors
couldn't
face
the
street.
Some
of
the
additional
requirements
include
durable
building
materials,
we'd
use
that
elsewhere
in
the
code.
N
In
this
case,
it
would
be
50
of
each
Street
facing
facade
would
need
to
have
durable
building
materials
and
that
could
include
the
fiber
cement
siding
in
the
graphic
or
it
could
also
include
brick,
stone
or
other
materials.
There's
a
clarification
regarding
the
location
of
the
building
entrance
and
then
there
are
additional
open
space
requirements
and
then
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
probably
stop
here
for
the
the
response
to
the
Planning
Commission
questions
this
evening
and
then
go
ahead
and
go
through
the
rest
at
the
next
Planning
Commission
work
session
next
week.
M
Adam
go
ahead.
Thank
you
yeah.
This
is.
This
is
I,
think
you
did
great
analysis.
I
appreciate
the
financial
feasibility
on
the
multi-family
and
you
working
with
some
of
our
home
builders
to
try
to
understand
what
was
feasible.
That
looks
much
better
I'm
so
concerned
that
in
the
R1
districts
we're
not
really
going
to
see
a
supply
response,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
kind
of
curious,
like
when
I
look
at
plant
Salt,
Lake
I,
don't
really
see
how
having
this
much
of
our
land,
zoned
R1
makes
is
consistent
with
the
goals
we
state.
M
So
I
guess
like
why
not
just
remove
like
if
you
think
of
you
know,
inclusionary
zoning
is
basically
a
tax
on
housing,
Supply
right,
but
so,
if
we
allowed
our
four
in
our
R1
districts
without
the
tax,
would
we
not
see
a
better
Supply
response
than
if
we
allow
R4
with
the
tax?
So
why
not?
Why
not
as
part
of
our
housing,
affordability
change,
just
move
it
from
R1
to
R4.
Without
all
these
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
this
and
I
realized.
There's
we've
heard
a
lot
from
the
public,
but
I.
N
E
I
mean
I,
just
don't
you
know.
My
big
concern
is
that
we
put
all
this
affordable
incentives
in
place
and
we
get
you
know
like
half
a
project
a
year.
It's
like
the
Adu
thing,
I
mean
we've
gotten
what
30
40
adus
in
the
city
in
we've
allowed
them
for
quite
a
long
time.
I
mean
it
is
a
hassle
true
to
get
your
Adu
approved,
but
and
it's
a
hassle
in
a
lot
of
other
ways
too.
It
costs
money
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
you
know.
E
I,
just
don't
know
whether
and
and
I
you've
done
a
fabulous
job
and
I
really
really
appreciate.
Actually,
the
fact
that
you've
gone
back
and
looked
at
these
these
with
with
the
folks
who
actually
end
up
having
to
build
them
I
think
that's
really
important,
but
I
think
in
fact,
what
what
you,
what
you've
basically
shown,
is
that
yeah,
it's
meh
in
terms
of
being
able,
except
for
except
for
projects
that
are
already
built
in
an
affordable
stance.
You
know
it's
questionable
whether
this
would
happen
at
all.
Isn't
that
what
it's
really
showing.
N
L
Q
L
E
I
mean
it
seemed
like
the
best
results
you
got
from.
The
financial
analysis
was
where
you
already
had
a
project
that
had
long
low
income,
tax
credits
or
some
other
kind
of
affordability,
option
where
you
could
almost
double
the
the
density
on
that
particular
site,
and
that
would
be
an
incentive,
especially
for
for
a
low
income
tax
credit
developer
who's.
That's
what
they're
about
anyway.
So
foreign.
H
I
do
think
that's
part
of
the
intent
of
these
incentives,
though
yeah
is
to
for
those
projects
that
might
be
able
to
use
a
light,
tech
or
city
funding
or
some
other
funding
source
for
affordable
housing
to,
and
you
know,
we've
been
pretty
consistent
with
this
message
for
those
dollars
to
either
produce
more
units
or
produce
deeper
levels
of
affordability,
because
they
help
fill
the
Gap
right
right
and
that's
ultimately
what
we're
aiming
for,
and
so
it's
hard
to
model
every
potential
scenario.
Obviously
that's
impossible.
E
E
Just
going
to
go
not
doing
that,
so
that
is
a
disincentive.
There's
a
disincentive
to
doing
that
part
of
the
work
anyway.
So
in
order
to
really
have
more
additional
affordable
units,
you're,
basically
talking
about
sort
of
doubling
doubling
up
on
the
people
that
are
already
doing
the
affordable
units,
and
that's
that's
a
good
thing.
That's
I
think
that's
great!
It's
a
great!
If
that's
what
we're
finding
out!
That's
a
great
thing
to
find
out.
B
Yeah
I
think
to
me:
I
was
looking
at
that
and,
and
it
read
like
okay,
we've
got
to
fill
this
Gap.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that
and
where
is
it
appropriate
like?
What's
the
level
at
which
we're
filling
the
Gap,
and
is
it
only
going
to
be
low
income
tax
credits?
Are
there
going
to
be
other
tax
incentives
like?
What
can
we
do
to
look
at
how
to
create
subsidies
that
will
help
developers
say?
B
Oh
yeah,
I
I
can
do
this
and
still
make
it
worthwhile
that
it's
not
just
you
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
just
the
existing
low-income
tax
credit.
It's
like
looking
at
this.
We
have
this
much
of
a
gap.
How
are
we
going
to
fill
it?
I
think
that's
part
of
the
question
to
me
is:
is
how
do
we
figure
that
out
I.
E
Think
what
we
were
trying
to
do
was
to
see
if
zoning
incentives
on
their
own
would
do
something
and
I
think
what's
been
demonstrated
here.
Is
that
probably
not
very
much
it
will
help
the
ones
that
are
already
doing
low-income
tax
credits
are
rather
incentivized
housing,
but
it's
not
going
to
move
your
regular
old
person,
building
apartment
projects
very
much
yeah.
M
M
We
do
have
this
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
I,
see
the
gaps
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
couldn't
guarantee
financing
for
maybe
some
of
our
most
needed
affordable,
like
we're
going
to
step
in
and
pay
some
of
the
Gap
and
I
realize
there's
a
bigger
commitment,
but
whether
we
could
just
start
small
and
make
a
commitment
of
five
million
dollars
a
year
in
real
money
along
with
these
affordable
housing.
Incentives
on
the
zoning
front,
real.
O
M
I
mean
that's
what
I'd
like
to
see
the
city
do
is
put
a
real
commitment
like
we
do
need
money.
Zoning
helps
but
I
think
if
we
I'd
love
to
see
some
discussion
of
that
other
small
thing,
because
I
won't
be
here
next
week.
That
seems
a
little
more
solvable.
Can
we
not
waive
the
minimum
size
requirement
if
it's
a
deeply,
affordable
unit?
That
seems
like
something
we
can
change
like.
We
can
put
something
in
the
text
because
I
guess
give
groups
said
that
you
know
if
I
make
Supportive
Housing.
M
R
I'm
not
sure
if
I
missed
something
but
did
anywhere
talk
about
Equitable
like
as
far
as
relocating
all
of
this
low-income
development
throughout
the
city,
because
I
noticed
some
of
the
stuff
you
mentioned
there,
for
example,
glad
house
that's
0.4
miles
away
from
my
house,
I
just
checked
on
Google
Maps
and
I
I
can
list
one
development
after
another
after
another
after
another,
that's
right
there
and
I
am
not
in
support
of
anything.
That's
just
going
to
group
the
poorest
people
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
let's
put
them
just
west
of
State,
Street
and
I.
R
Keep
saying
this
sounding
like
a
broken
record.
I,
don't
see
how
the
city
is
going
to
address
that
and
I
know.
There
are
people
like
commissioner
gent
and
commissioner
sure,
with
a
lot
more
experience
than
I.
Do.
Is
that
something
that
can
be
addressed
or
no?
That's
it.
You
just
take
all
the
poor
people,
relocate
them
to
the
cheapest
land
in
the
city
and
wipe
your
heads
clean
and
say:
hey,
we've
done
our
part.
M
You
know
I
think
this
is
a
fundamental
tension
with
housing.
Affordability
is
that
cheaper
land
is
where
it's
cheaper
to
build.
You
know
cheaper
units
and
so
I
think
there's
you
know.
The
LIE
Tech
program
struggles
with
is
two
and
they've
tried,
and
they
also
know
that
it's
not
great
and
they
now
HUD
has
these
small
areas.
So
it's
it's
the
area,
income,
so
I
guess
the
way
HUD
is
addressing.
It
is
with
small
area
income.
M
So,
instead
of
benchmarking
it
to
area
immediate
income,
which
is
the
whole
metro
area,
you
Benchmark
it
to
you,
know
the
benches
or
yalecrests
Ami.
So
then
the
Ami
you
have
to
hit
is
it's
higher
for
you
to
qualify
as
affordable,
because
it's
relative
to
that
small
area.
This
truck
the
problem
is
that
yalecrest
doesn't
have
anywhere
to
build
housing
period
And.
So
it's
not
really
gonna.
You
know
we
can
Benchmark
it
to
Yale
Crest,
but
everything
in
that
neighborhood
is
r15000
r17000..
M
R
No,
no
I
totally
hear
and
understand
the
answer.
It's
just
because
of
the
article
on
Salt
Lake
Tribune,
most
recently
right
we're
getting
the
Glendale
park.
It's
great.
It's
going
to
help
the
community,
but
let's
make
sure
it
doesn't
help
the
community
too
much
because
you
could
gentrify
the
community
and
I'm
like,
but
has
anyone
consulted
the
West
Side
neighborhoods
that
are
begging
for
a
little
bit
of
gentrification
like
if
you
take
a
picture
across
the
street
from
the
glider
house?
R
If
anyone
can
guess,
what's
there
a
bunch
of
people
living
under
tents
across
the
street
from
glad
house
if
anyone
wants
to
drive
there
behind
Marine
Products
today
after
the
meeting
go,
take
a
look
doesn't
matter
how
many
times
we
complain
to
the
city,
nothing
can
be
done
so
I
see.
There
is
a
disconnect
on
the
things
we're
discussing
things
we
want
to
do
and
then
how
we're
going
to
solve
the
problem.
Are
we
really
going
to
solve
the
problem?
R
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
not
just
another.
Like
hey
we
tried
here
we
go.
Here's
the
paperwork.
We've
done
our
homework.
We
did
a
focus
group
I
hear
so
many
focus
groups
being
done
and
the
city
is
still
not
getting
what
they
want.
The
the
the
people
living
in
the
city
are
still
not
getting
what
they
want
and
if
I
sound
a
little
frustrated.
It's
because
I'm
really
frustrated
thanks.
G
G
N
G
N
And
so
that
was
the
requirement
where
there
were
no
more
than
25
percent
of
the
units
could
be
less
than
500
square
feet.
So
that
was
the
one
limiting
factor
and
then
you
would
still
need
to
you.
Couldn't
have
more
building
coverage,
you'd
be
limited
to
60.
Building
coverage
you'd
need
to
provide
the
one
parking
space
per
unit,
and
so.
G
Yeah,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
better
understand,
because
there's
always
some
limiting
factors
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
a
better
picture
of
those
together.
So
I
also
really
appreciate
this
idea
of
being
thoughtful
of
housing.
Types
in
different
zones
and
I
understand.
That's
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
you
know.
You're
getting
are
especially
from
Sr
zones
are
about
that,
but
I
think
that
we
are
missing
the
mark
in
that
and
and
one
of
the
things
from
the
focus
groups
like
some
of
those
additional
recommendations.
G
G
If
we're
looking
at
this
being
like
a
mother-in-law
unit
in
the
basement
or
an
Adu
type,
it
doesn't
really
matter
if
it's
a
fourplex
or
duplex
and
yeah,
of
course,
and
I
think
there
are
other
mechanisms
that
are
going
to
address
that
so
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
additional
design
standards
for
those
zones,
but
one
of
the
things
I
do
Echo
is
for
for
there's
two
ways
to
look
at
Equity.
I.
G
G
If
you
get
a
secondary
building,
which
is
an
edu
and
you
restrict
it
for
income,
why
would
I
have
an
incentive
to
do
that
and
not
just
then
go
build
an
Adu
that
I
would
release
at
market
rate,
especially
given
the
new
standard
or
the
new
rules
that
may
be
coming
here
soon.
So
I
don't
know
that
we've
incentivized
enough
to
preserve
existing
housing.
What
we
have
now
I
think
it's
based
on
the
return
and
the
financial
data.
G
G
Building
I
want
them
to
have
the
option
if
you
know
whatever
their
circumstances
are,
that
they
have
other
options
of
places
that
they
could
live
throughout
the
city
and
not
just
in
apartment,
buildings
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we're
achieving
that
here
and
I
think
Brenda's.
You
know
comments
are
really
really
topical
here.
Is
that
we're
missing
where
the
data
is
showing
who's
going
to
be
getting
the
return,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
limiting
those
housing
types
to
what
we
talked
about,
what
I
just
mentioned?
G
N
So,
just
to
kind
of
touch
on
at
least
one
of
those.
So
as
far
as
the
differences
and
why
someone
might
build
that
second
bowling
unit
instead
of
an
Adu
it,
it
isn't
subject
to
necessarily
it's
subject
to
the
underlying
requirements.
For
the
let's
say:
r15000
zoning
district
and
it
wouldn't
be
subject
to
those
same
Adu
requirements.
It
could
have
a
taller
height,
it
doesn't
have
the
owner
occupancy
requirement
and
those
things.
So
that
would
be
something
for
a
property
owner
to
weigh,
but
it
would
have
the
affordability
requirement.
G
Yeah
and
with
new
ad
rules,
Adu
rules
coming
I,
don't
know
what
they'll
end
up
being,
but
they
are
going
to
change.
Is
that
is
this
enough
of
a
difference?
If
I
was
going
to
look
at
my
financial
return,
I
would
probably
be
able
to
make
more
money
if
I
rented
it
at
market
rate
versus
restricting
it,
even
if
I
got
to
go
higher
on
a
secondary
unit
and
then
restricted
as
affordable.
If
the
Adu
rules
are
going
to
change
too
so
I'm
just
not
sure,
there's
enough
here
to
Warrant
way.
F
N
N
There
aren't
lots
of
examples
of
kind
of
this
incentive
based
approach.
There's
I
think
the
one
that
probably
at
least
as
far
as
I
have
found
has
the
most
units
is
the
the
one
in
La
that's
connected
to
transits
the
transit
oriented
communities
and
I
did
mention
that
in
the
memo
there
haven't
found
one
that
kind
of
looks
at
kind
of
the
the
lower
density
neighborhoods.
N
H
One
thing
that
we
can
look
at
too-
and
this
relates
to
both
the
single-family
zones
and
the
Adu
topic
that
just
got
brought
up,
but
one
of
the
things
that
the
city
of
Seattle
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
published
a
whole
report
a
couple
years
ago.
They
modified
their
Adu
regulations
and
one
of
those
regulations
that
they
added
was
allowing
for
a
second
Adu.
H
One
could
be
detached
in
the
back,
and
so
suddenly
you
have
a
very
low
cost
to
create
unit
in
the
basement
and
then
that
that
potential,
Adu
or
second
home
in
the
back
and
it
does
change
the
math.
So
we
can.
We
can
look
at
those
reports
that
they
publish
to
see
if
there's
some
indication
on
the
affordability
levels
of
those
and
and.
G
H
And
that's
one
thing
that
we
would
so
because
this
proposal
says:
if
you
keep,
if
you're
keeping
the
exit
an
existing
home
on
the
property,
you
only
need
to
have
one
of
the
units
be
affordable
versus
if
you're,
adding
three.
You
know
four
units
that
would
be
hard
to
get
to
two
and
keep
the
two
of
four
leads
and
keep
the
home.
So
this
is
intended
to
lower
that
to
just
having
one
of
the
units
total
doesn't
have
to
be,
the
home
wouldn't
have
to
be
the
basement
apartment.