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From YouTube: Planning Commission - April 14, 2021
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Planning Commission Meeting - April 14, 2021
https://www.slc.gov/planning/
https://www.slc.gov/planning/planning-commission-agendas-minutes/
A
We'll
call
to
order
our
meeting
welcome
everyone
to
the
salt
lake
city
planning
commission
for
the
night
of
april
14th
2021.
A
I
am
amy
berry.
The
vice
chair
I'll,
be
running
the
meeting
tonight
so
bear
with
me.
If
I
make
any
mistakes,
please,
I
have
to
read
the
emergency
proclamation
now
correct.
A
Okay,
I
amy
berry
of
the
salt
lake
city
planning.
Commission
hereby
determined
that
conducting
the
planning,
commission,
hearing
or
yeah
meeting
at
an
anchor
location
presents
a
substantial
risk
to
the
health
and
safety
of
those
who
may
be
present
at
the
anchor
location.
The
world
health
organization,
the
president
of
the
united
states,
the
governor
of
utah,
the
sally
county
health
department,
sally
county
mayor
and
mayor
of
salt
lake
city
have
all
recognized.
A
A
global
pandemic
exists
related
to
the
new
strain
of
the
coronavirus
sar
cov2
due
to
the
state
of
emergency
caused
by
the
global
pandemic.
I
find
that
conducting
a
meeting
at
an
anchor
location
under
the
current
state
of
public
health
emergency
constitutes
a
substantial
risk
to
the
health
and
safety
of
those
who
may
be
present
at
the
location.
A
Let
me
open
up
my
agenda
now.
One
second.
A
Okay,
so
we've
been
having
some
technical
difficulties,
the
last
couple
of
meetings,
so
if
we
encounter
any
of
that
bear
with
us,
we
will
make
sure
everyone
who
wants
to
comment
and
participate
will
get
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
We're
going
to
start
our
meeting
tonight
with
a
report.
A
B
It's
the
introduction
screen.
B
So
for
those
of
you
that
are
joining
us
and
would
like
to
participate
in
the
public
hearings
tonight,
the
public
hearings
will
take
place
after
the
presentations
are
made.
Aubry
is
gonna
share
a
screen
here.
We'll
will
give
you
a
bit
of
instruction
one
of
the
key
thing
yeah
there
you
go
the
it
if
you
open
your
attendee
panel,
if
you're
on
your
computer
there's
a
little
hand
down
there,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
during
the
public
hearing
portion.
B
If
you'd
like
to
speak
during
that
portion,
we
would
ask
that
you
raise
that
hand
that
lets
us
know
that
you
would
like
to
speak
and
then
we'll
call
on
you.
If
you're
in
the
attendees
list,
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
unmute
yourself
it'll.
Be
me
that
will
do
that.
B
So
you
just
need
to
raise
your
hand
if
you
have
issues
aubrey.
If
you
could
go
back
to
the
other
screen,
you
may
want
to
write
down
the
email
address.
That's
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
It's
a
planning,
dot
comments
at
slcgov.com.
B
D
B
Us
to
read
during
the
public
hearing
you
can
do
that.
Also
thanks,
aubrey
one
other
one
other
announcement
that
I
would
like
to
make
for
those
of
you
on
the
planning
commission-
and
there
may
be
some
of
you
that
aren't
really
aware
of
how
building
permits
and
zoning
functions
in
the
city.
B
There's
us
in
planning
who
you
deal
with
regularly
and
we
are
the
ones
that
you
know
basically
draft
the
the
ordinances
zoning
ordinances
for
the
city
council
to
consider
we
deal
with
all
the
special
approvals
things
of
that
nature.
Then
we
have
our
zoning
reviewers.
B
Excuse
me.
They
are
they're
in
our
building
services
division
and
they
do
the
zoning
review
on
building
permit
projects
that
come
in
for
the
building
permit.
So
if
they
don't
need
a
special
approval,
they're
the
ones
that
actually
review
that
so
we've.
It's
always
been
a
an
interesting
situation
in
salt
lake
city,
where
you
have
kind
of
two
different
divisions,
dealing
with
zoning
scenarios
and
and
we've
had
situations
where
you
know.
B
Different
divisions
are
interpreting
codes
differently
and
and
we're
maybe
not
getting
exactly
the
type
of
development
that
we
would
anticipate
through.
Our
our
our
adopted
sony
codes,
so
we're
making
a
pretty
substantial
change
to
how
we
function
and
we're
actually
moving
the
zoning
reviewers
out
of
the
building
services,
department
or
division
and
into
the
planning
division.
And
we.
E
B
This
is
going
to
be
a
pretty
important
and
significant
change.
The
the
zoning
reviewers
will
be
part
of
the
planning
team,
we're
all
serve
on
the
same
same
team
included
in
all
of
the
same
meetings,
and
we
hope
that
that's
going
to
have
a
pretty
significant
impact
on
having
consistent
interpretations
qr
code.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
all
know
that
that
change
is
coming,
anticipate
that
that
change
will
occur
on
july
1st,
due
to
all
the
budget
stuff
that
we
have
to
go
through
and
that's.
A
Okay,
thanks
wayne,
I
look
forward
to
how
that
plays
out.
Do
we
have
an
idea
of
when
we're
going
to
get
an
update
on
the
legislation
that
passed
this
last
go-around
that
affects
our
work.
B
Yeah
you'll,
I
believe
I'll,
send
that
along
to
nick,
but
I
believe
that
is
something
that
I
think
nick
and
paul
will
probably
do
for
the
planning
commission
at
an
upcoming
meeting.
Okay.
B
A
Okay,
thanks
all
right
moving
along,
we
will
start
the
we'll
go
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
Now
the
consent
agenda
is
going
to
include
approval
of
the
minutes
and
also
approval
of
the
time
extension
for
red
rock
brewery.
I'm
looking
for
a
motion
to
pass
the
consent
agenda.
A
C
That
we,
that
we
oh
matt's
here-
oh
sorry,
matt,
go
ahead.
A
C
A
C
A
Okay,
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
our
meeting
tonight.
We
have
up
book
binder
studios
now.
Let
me
open
up
the
report.
A
2021-00035
book
binder
studios
on
second
west
design
review.
I
have
the
planner
tonight
as
chrissy.
Firstly,
you
are
up
to
give
your
presentation.
C
A
A
H
H
This
project
is
before
the
commission
because
the
applicant
is
requesting
additional
height
and
just
of
note,
the
staff
report
incorrectly
identified
that
a
modification
to
the
number
of
building
entrances
is
required,
and
my
apologies
for
that.
So,
while
two
are
required,
it
was
determined
that,
since
the
parking
entrance
is
in
the
location
where
the
second
entrance
would
go,
a
second
door
would
not
be
required.
H
The
subject
parcel
is
located
in
the
interior
of
the
block
facing
200
west
in
the
d2
zone.
It
is
surrounded
by
properties
that
are
primarily
zoned
d2,
with
the
exception
of
the
properties
located
across
the
street,
which
are
d1
and
the
property
abuts.
The
state
liquor
store
to
the
north
and
to
the
south
is
the
entrance
to
the
crystal
inn
hotel,
which
you
can
see
in
the
middle
of
the
block,
and
then
the
mcdonald's
is
on
the
corner
for
context.
H
The
building
is
a
seven
story:
115
unit
residential
building
and
the
building
is
proposed
to
be
83
feet,
1
inches
tall
to
the
tallest
flower
foot
wall,
which
would
include
studio
and
1
bedroom
units.
A
total
of
58
parking
stalls
are
provided,
53
stalls
would
be
provided
interior
to
the
project
in
the
first
and
second
levels
of
the
building,
and
they
would
be
accessed
through
a
single
entrance
on
200
west,
which
you
can
see
on
the
picture
to
the
right.
H
The
exterior
exterior
building
materials
are
primarily
brick,
fiber
smith
and
glass
on
the
street,
facing
facade
with
efis
on
the
other
facades
or
stucco,
and
then
of
note.
The
building
excuse
me
would
replace
two
structures
and
two
historic
structures
that
were
recently
demolished.
The
structures
were
both
national
landmark
sites
that
were
listed
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places
and
though
they
were
not
nationally
listed,
there
were
no
city
preservation
regulations
to
prevent
the
structures
demolition.
H
H
Here
is
a
basic
site
layout,
as
you
can
see
the
building
maximizes
the
site
with
minimal
setbacks
as
allowed
in
the
d2
zone
and
in
some
places
being
directly
up
to
the
property
line.
I've
highlighted
the
parking
areas
in
purple
so
to
the
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
You
can
see
the
three
off-site
parking
stalls
and
then
the
two
on
street
stalls,
the
red,
is
the
pedestrian
entrance
to
the
building
and
the
blue
is
the
vehicle
entrance.
H
I
also
want
an
additional
layout
of
the
third
level,
which
includes
an
outdoor
plaza
area
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
which
I've
highlighted
in
yellow
and
then
on
the
south
side.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
a
recess
where
those
balconies
are
set
in
or
the
building
is
set
in
with
balconies
to
to
break
up
that
facade.
H
So
the
request
is
asking
for
additional
height,
so
in
the
d2
zone,
building
height
is
up
is
allowed
up
to
30,
to
65
feet
by
right,
and
then
they
can
go
up
to
120
feet
with
design
review
approval
and
the
applicant
is
requesting
the
83
feet
to
the
tallest
fare
foot.
So
the
intensive
design
review
process,
as
it
relates
to
building
height,
is
to
encourage
design
with
an
emphasis
on
human
skill
and
mitigate
any
negative
impacts,
as
outlined
in
attachment
of
your
staff
report.
H
The
pro
the
proposed
design
incorporates
elements
that
emphasize
the
human
skills,
such
as
building
articulation
material
changes
and
architectural
elements
such
as
balcony
and
recessed
portions,
and
maintains
transparency
at
the
ground
level.
The
building
massing
is
broken
up
using
recessed
portions
in
the
middle
and
the
south
facade
to
give
the
appearance
of
smaller
buildings
and
also
act
as
step
backs
from
the
neighboring
properties.
H
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
conflict
there
and
then,
additionally,
the
neighboring
properties
are
likely
to
redevelop
at
some
point
to
the
full
potential
of
the
d2
zone,
and
so
they
too
could
be
built
up
to
the
property
line
which
would
make
those
walls
largely
not
visible
from
the
public
realm
and
just
enough
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
height
request.
H
Here
are
some
photos
of
the
site.
I
believe
that
the
house
has
the
home.
There
has
now
been
demolished,
but
here
you
can
see
one
of
the
historic
structures
and
then
the
bottom
right
image
shows
the
property
to
the
south,
including
the
parking
or
the
bottom
left.
Image
shows
the
property
to
the
south,
including
the
three
parking
spots
dedicated
to
the
project
and
the
other
images
of
the
property
to
the
north,
which
is
the
state
liquor
store.
H
H
C
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me.
Fine
appreciate,
planning,
commission
and
planning
planning
staff.
Chris
he's
been
great
to
work
with
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
so
we
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
I'll
just
do
a
quick,
little
introduction
to
our
project
and
then
I'll
turn
the
bulk
of
the
time
over
to
our
architectural
professionals,
who
have
done
a
wonderful
job,
incorporating
kind
of
the
inspiration
behind
our
design
and
what
we've
done
on
this
site,
which
goes
back
to
the
original
you
know,
homebuilder
and
owner.
There
was
john
b
kelly.
I
He
was
the
first
book
binder
in
salt
lake
city
when
he
immigrated
here
to
the
united
states
and
was
not
only
a
book
binder
but
had
the
first
printing
company
as
well,
so
the
structures
that
were
there
were
built
by
the
same
family.
I
The
ideas
that
we
picked
out
from
their
inspiration
of
the
especially
the
kelly
holm
was
one
of
symmetry
order.
Proportion
and
we've
worked
worked
hard
to
bring
those
same
principles
into
the
design
that
we
put
together
on
our
book
binder
studios.
We
really
want
to
pay
homage
to
those
folks
that
came
before
us,
so
we've
gathered
a
lot
of
the
brick.
I
There
were
some
stars
that
we've
pulled
together.
We've
got
a
plaque
planned
for
and
kind
of
telling
the
story
of
what
was
there
before
us
for
our
lobby
area,
which
will
be
visible
from
the
street
and
which
will
be
pretty
cool,
abstract
masonry
and
some
of
our
wonderful
citizens
in
the
community
kind
of
helped
pull
together
a
team
that
was
able
to
salvage
a
lot
of
the
stuff
off
of
the
site
and
which
we
feel
was
a
good
give
back
to
the
community
on
that
piece.
I
So
with
that
on
the
introduction
I'll,
let
our
architects
go
through
kind
of
the
design
elements,
real,
quick
and
then
we
can
just
open
it
up
for
questions.
If
that
works,
to
give
jonathan
kland
and
eric
hanson
with
line
29,
I
don't
know
if
they're
able
to
take
the
screen
or
how
that
works,
but
if
they
can,
that
would
be
wonderful.
J
J
Thank
you
so
we'll
we'll
have
eric,
hopefully
share
the
screen
here
and
I'll
kind
of
speak
to
a
couple
of
points.
I
appreciate
your
time
as
scott
mentioned,
we
we've
taken
great
inspiration
from
the
original
homes
that
were
on
the
site
here,
including
the
name
of
the
project
that
we
are
adopting
after
after
the
the
family,
as
well
as
the
kind
of
remembrances
of
the
history
of
the
site
that
will
be
displayed
and
incorporated
into
the
main
lobby
space
which
will
be
visible
from
the
street
to
pedestrians.
J
I
just
briefly,
we
just
want
to
speak
to
the
additional
height
question
that
we're
requesting
we
appreciate
working
with
chrissy
and
with
this
staff
recommendation
over
the
last
few
months.
J
So
as
she
mentioned,
the
d2
zone
allows
for
us
to
go
up
to
120
feet
through
this
design
review
process
here
we're
requesting
to
go
up
to
approximately
83
feet,
and
we
feel
that
that
we've
taken
great
care
to
create
a
project
here
that
will
help
to
add,
with
this
increased
height,
the
distinct
and
aesthetically
pleasing
skyline
of
downtown
salt
lake
city.
We
feel
that
we're
following
the
salt
lake
downtown
master
plan
in
this
approach,
as
well
as
the
plan
slc.
J
Some
of
the
initiatives
that
this
is
met
with
our
increased
height
are
increased
housing
units
to
the
area,
additional
density,
with
our
smaller
studio
apartments
that
we're
providing
increased
residential
density
as
well
as
visibility
and
safety,
we're
promoting
a
high
density
residential
in
an
area
that
is
served
by
transit,
as
well
as
redeveloping
an
under
utilized
site
and
and
helping
to
infill
this
area.
J
We
do
not
feel
that
the
additional
height
will
cause
any
negative
impacts,
as
chrissy
mentioned,
and,
and
we
feel
that
it's
well
designed
for
the
human
scale
of
this
area.
Finally,
we're
right
across
the
street
from
the
d1
district
and
which
allows
for
increased
height
above
the
d2,
and
we
are
also
seeing
quite
a
few
projects
around
us
in
the
area
that
are
popping
up
both
in
design
review
as
well
as
in
construction.
J
That
we
feel
are
fitting
in
with
with
what
we're
proposing
here
and
are
also
hopeful
that
continued
infill
projects
will
build
in
around
us
in
this
site.
I
think
that's
really.
All
we
have
unless
we
certainly
open
to
any
questions
you
guys
might
have
for
us,
but
really
we
wanted
to
keep
it
brief
and
to
the
point,
and
and
only
address
the
the
item
that
we're
seeking
variants
on
so.
A
I
have
one
question:
do
you
have
a
graphic
that
shows
that
entrance
on
the
main
street
a
little
better,
so
you
can
see
what
it
looks.
A
J
We
can,
let's
zoom
in
on
the
the
floor
plan
here.
If
we
can
eric
and
kind
of
show
the
from
a
plan.
Pers
plan
point
of
view.
The
entry
here
with
the
the
lobby
space,
as
shown
there,
the
back
wall
there
between
the
lobby
and
the
mail
room,
is
going
to
be
the
feature
wall
where
we
have
the
kind
of
information
and
remnants
of
the
existing
building
and
kind
of
paying
homage
to
that.
A
J
No
you're
fine,
can
you
zoom
in
a
little
more
eric
or
is
that
maxed
out.
J
J
We've
essentially
opened
up
the
entire
lobby
area,
as
well
as
that
leasing
office
to
be
full
height
glass,
and
so
there
will
be
visibility
through
the
glass
from
the
sidewalk
and
street
into
the
lobby
space,
and
so
essentially
that
it's
it
will
be
in
the
lobby
along
the
wall
between
the
lobby
and
the
mail
room.
If
that
kind
of
makes
sense,.
J
Perfect
yeah
go
ahead.
A
Now
I
was
just
gonna
see
if
commissioners
had
any
other
questions
for
you
at
this
point,
I'm
not
hearing
any.
So
we
will.
You
guys,
can
just
stand
by
we're
gonna
open
up
the
public
hearing
portion
and
then,
if
need
be,
we
will
bring
you
back
for
additional
questions,
but
thank
you.
A
Let
me
get
there
so
we're
gonna
open
it
up
to
the
public
hearing
portion.
Is
there
anyone
here
from
the
community
council
wayne?
Do
you
know.
A
Okay,
just
as
a
note
to
the
public,
you
will
have
two
minutes
to
give
your
comments
so
start
with
stating
your
name
for
the
record,
and
then
you
can
have
your
two
minutes
and
if
you
have
any
questions
during
that
time,
I
will
make
note
of
them.
But
this
is
a
public
comment
period.
So
once
we
conclude
the
public
comment
portion,
I
will
then
ask
staff
and
or
the
applicant
to
address
your
questions
after
that
time,
all
right
wayne.
B
Great
so
this
lisa
hazel.
K
K
Also,
I'd
like
to
see
bike
parking
be
available
for
tenants
or
residents
that
want
to
well
use
the
bike
as
their
main
source
of
transportation
along
with
transit,
and
I
think
those
are
bike
parking
will
make
it
easier
for
people
to
park
their
mode
of
transportation
for
people
who
are
trying
to
help
save
the
planet.
K
And
additionally,
I
think
that
the
the
interior,
the
immediate
entrance,
I
think,
the
I
I
did
hear
that
there's
going
to
be
a
plaque.
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
for
for
the
masonry
to
maybe
be
in
a
glass,
close
enclosure
and
a
picture
also
of
the
resident
that
lived
there.
The
the
book
binder
that
someone
mentioned,
I
think,
would
be
a
really
good
thing,
and
I
I
do
also
think
it's
a
tragedy
that
this
structure
was
destroyed.
K
I
think
that
salt
lake
city
does
too
much
of
destruction,
and
it's
really
rather
unfortunate,
because
I
think
that
having
a
place
of
residence
right
next
to
maybe
a
little
mini
museum
would
have
been
really
nice,
which
the
city
missed
out
on.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you
all.
B
I
do
not
see
any
more
hands
raised.
You
know,
I'm
there's
not
many
people
in
the
list,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
down
a
really
fast,
just
in
case.
C
B
Bob
jensen,
are
you
able
to?
Can
you
hear
us.
B
L
It
was
on
this
case,
so
that's
perfect
timing.
First
of
all,
hi
everybody,
you're
you're,
you've
heard
from
the
staff
about
how
your
workload
of
special
exceptions
is
going
to
get
reduced.
L
Hopefully,
you're
hearing
a
lot
of
cases
that
are
conditional
uses
where
you
can't
do
anything
but
approve
the
request,
and
I
want
to
comment
on
the
requirement
that
this
come
before
you
regarding
additional
height
in
a
wasteland,
surrounded
by
a
sea
of
asphalt
and
provide
you
with
some
context
that
in
the
east
downtown
all
the
way
to
700
east,
a
building
of
this
height
used
to
be
in
a
loud
use.
L
So
I
I
think
it's
time
that
we
do
something
about
the
fact
that
the
planners
are
spending
time
on
a
request
like
this,
but
even
more
significantly
than
that.
The
units
that
will
be
available
that
are
quite
modest
and
will
be
modestly
priced
in
this
building-
have
been
delayed
arriving
in
the
marketplace
by
the
amount
of
time
that
this
petition
has
been
in
the
planning
department
and
and
that's
unfortunate,
even
if
it
was
only
two
or
three
months.
We
desperately
need
these
units.
L
So
I'm
looking
for
a
way
that
we
can
avoid
putting
a
developer
through
this
kind
of
process
when
really
someone
who
is
providing
modest
housing
in
our
current
situation
should
have
all
sorts
of
the
city's
requirements
waived,
including
permitting
fees,
because
we
desperately
need
this
housing.
So
that's
the
end
of
my
comment.
I
urge
you
to
talk
with
staff
about
the
ways
that
these
things
could
be
handled
administratively,
rather
than
a
full-on
staff
report
and
coming
to
your
agenda.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
B
Try
bob
jensen,
I'm
gonna,
try
you
again
can
can
you
speak
to
us
yeah?
I
I
finally
got
my
audio
working
on
this
ipad.
Is
this
a
item
that
you'd
like
to
speak
on
tonight?
B
No
okay,
great
thank
you
dave
built,
as
I
believe
dave,
I'm
going
to
unmute
you,
but
I
think
you're
here
for
the
street
lighting
master
plan,
but
is
this?
Would
you
like
to
speak
on
this
item
also.
B
Dave:
okay,
we're
not
hearing
from
dave
one
last
person:
hannah
vickery!
C
Hi,
I'm
here
I'm
one
of
the
new
attorneys
in
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
I'll,
be.
K
A
Perfectly
good
wayne:
what
about
the
emails?
No
emails.
A
All
right,
then,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
The
applicants,
who
did
we
have
eric
if
you
wanted
to
address
the
two
questions
regarding
energy
efficiency
and
bike
parking.
This
would
be
your
time
to
do
that.
C
Sure,
yes,
we
we
do
not
have
any
solar
provisions
planned
for
the
project,
but
we
do
have
bike
storage
here
it.
I
don't
know
green
still,
but
it
is
internal
to
the
building
secure
here
for
the
for
the
tenants
who
want
to
use
bikes
and
it's
pretty
ample.
J
For
the
parking
and
and
the
building
units
that
are
are
provided.
J
There's
a
there's
a
sidewalk
from
this
connects
from
this
the
street
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
that
goes
back
to
the
bike
storage
there.
So
direct
access
for
those
who
are
bicycle
commuting
and
the
room
we've
provided
will
hold
at
least
eight
eight
bicycles.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioners,
do
you
have
any
questions
for
staff
or
the
applicant
at
this
time.
C
C
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
cindy's
comment,
because
I
think
it's
super
relevant
and
I
couldn't
agree
more
and
to
see
to
get
wayne's
perspective
on
that
and
if
the
city
will
be
undertaking
some
mandatory
zoning
amendments
as
a
result
of
legislative
changes.
Is
this
also
something
we
can
potentially
consider?
Or
is
it
already
under
consideration
by
the
city,
or
you
know,
for
the
reasons
that
cindy
articulated?
B
We
do
have
currently
underway
the
affordable
housing
overlay
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
while.
So
I
will
ask
the
people
on
that
team
to
watch
this
and
get
some
additional
ideas
if
it's
something
that
they
haven't
already
considered,
but
that
that's
been
in
the
works
for
a
bit
and
it's
a
it'll
be
a
city-wide
overlay
zone.
C
That
would
be
great.
I
think
everyone
on
this
commission
would
like
to
know
where
staff
is
with
with
that
process,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
getting
an
update
on
where
you
guys
are
with
the
overlay.
So,
okay.
B
That's
great
I'll
yeah
I'll
pass
that
along
and
hopefully
we'll
we
can
get
something.
I
know
it's
kind
of
had
to
go
in
some
fits
and
starts
just
from
a
resource
standpoint,
but
I
I
do
believe
that
the
team
is
in
a
pretty
good
spot,
that
they
should
be
able
to
at
least
come
in
and
provide
an
update
to
the
planning
commission
I'll
pass
that
along
great
thanks
wayne.
E
It
was
three
I
and
part
of
part
of
that
discussion
with
the
commission
specifically
about
design
review
was
keeping
a
lot
of
this
discussion
of
when
we
have
a
building,
that's
larger
than
kind
of
that
that
base
maximum
base
zoning
maximum
height
that
you're
getting
a
building
that
has
a
potentially
larger
impact
and
and
while
in
the
d2,
I
I
believe
the
maxim
I'm
sorry
I'm
reaching
right
now,
but
I
believe
the
maximum
base
height
as
of
right
height
is
75
feet,
and
this
is
just
you
know
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
but
the
ordinance
doesn't
have
kind
of
like
that.
E
E
It's
all
requests
for
additional
height
over
that
base,
as
of
right
height
for
any
zone,
has
to
go
before
the
planning
commission,
whether
you're
asking
for
two
feet
or
25
feet-
and
you
know
that
was
a
that
was
a
pretty
big
discussion
with
the
planning,
commission
and
and
the
commission
at
the
time,
was
very
interested
in
maintaining
that
power
of
review
of
those
projects.
A
E
That
addresses
a
little
bit
of
cindy's
comments.
It's
certainly,
you
know
a
great
tool
if
we
can
get
the
affordable
housing
overlay
included,
it's
a
great
tool
to
be
able
to
wave
some
of
those
process
processes
like
going
to
the
planning
commission.
When
you
know
the
applicant
is
providing
something
like
a
public
benefit
like
affordable
housing
and
we'll
have
to
see
kind
of
how
that
plays
out.
With
that
proposal,.
G
Basically,
analysis
and
the
list
finalists
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
a
move.
The
planning
commission
approved
the
design
review,
request
pln
sub
2021
35
the
project
located
at
approximately
422
south
200
west,
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
Just
the
one.
A
All
seconds
was
that
sarah.
A
C
C
B
A
Okay,
that
passes
unanimously
book
binder
you're
on
your
way.
Good
luck.
A
A
A
No
number,
okay,
good,
because
I
don't
have
it
we
have.
The
planner
is
aaron
there.
You
are
aaron,
yes,
all
right.
If
you
want
to
take
it
away.
M
For
a
brief
introduction
to
explain
why
you're
looking
at
this
today,
this
is
a
state
statute
and
city
policy
requires
the
planning
commission
to
review
any
city-wide
plans,
and
this
streetlight
master
plan
is
a
city-wide
plan.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
the
time
over
to
marion
or
who,
who
is
presenting
from
public
utilities,.
C
C
In
particular,
we
will
have
today
myself
jesse
stewart,
our
deputy
director
of
public
utilities
and
david
pearson,
our
public
utility
streetlights
program
manager.
In
addition,
we
have
representatives
from
our
consulting
team,
so
annika
egan
of
gsbs
architects.
C
We
also
have
dane
sanders
of
clinton
and
associates,
which
is
a
lighting,
design
and
engineering
firm
and
then
also
dr
travis
longcur,
an
associate
professor
from
ucla,
whose
research
includes
the
investigation
of
the
effects
of
artificial
lighting
on
wildlife
and
jessie.
Stewart
will
be
presenting
today
and
I'll
give
you
an
overview
of
our
master
plan.
Thank
you.
N
N
All
right,
hopefully
you're
seeing
a
slide
that
says:
salt
lake
city,
utah
street
lighting
master
plan
on
april
14th.
N
So,
as
marion
said,
I'm
my
name
is
jesse
stewart,
I'm
one
of
the
deputy
directors
of
public
utilities
so
I'll
be
giving
you
a
brief
overview
tonight
of
our
street
lighting
master
plan.
I'll,
give
you
a
little
bit
of
history
on
the
program
I'll
go
through
some
slides
on
how
we
develop
the
master
plan
and
then
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
next
steps
and
the
planning
horizon.
N
And
as
marian
mentioned,
we
have
a
fairly
diverse
group
on
the
call
today
to
answer
questions
as
they
come
up
either
question's
going
to
be
there
I'll,
take
them,
or
I
may
defer
to
some
of
my
experts
that
are
on
a
call
with
me.
N
N
So,
first
a
little
bit
of
history,
so
salt
lake
city
is
one
of
the
first
cities
in
the
nation
to
have
street
lights.
We
had
our
first
street
lights
in
1887
and
our
first
writing
plan
was
in
1908.
I
believe
this
you
can
see
the
power
of
not
the
powerful,
the
street
lighting
pole
there
on
the
far
left.
It
says,
standard
light
pole
from
main
street.
I
believe
that's
from
that
original
plan,
a
little
bit
of
history
going
up
to
the
upper
right
of
the
photos.
N
You
can
see
some.
I
think
this
is
like
a
1940s
picture.
People
doing
maintenance
on
one
of
the
street
lights,
not
quite
to
current
osha
standards.
We
have
different
methods
of
doing
that.
Now,
we'll
be
glad
to
hear
I'm
glad
to
hear
it
for
our
crews
out
there
and
then
on
the
bottom
right.
You
can
see
south
temple
and
you'll
see
street
lights
there,
but
you
do
see
the
trolley
line.
N
Poles
and
those
poles
have
been
repurposed.
If
you
drive
down
south
temple,
those
are
now
streetlight
equals.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
the
history
we
pulled
in
with
our
street
lighting
program.
So
I'm
going
to
jump
from
our
history
manager
from
1908
to
2006
almost
a
century
later.
That's
when
we
last
did
a
master
plan
update.
N
So
that's
what
we've
been
working
on
since
then
in
2012,
the
street
lighting
program
was
transferred
from
the
transportation
department
to
public
utilities
making
into
enterprise
commons
and
really
our
goal
at
that
point
was
to
one
of
the
main
goals
was
to
start
converting
some
of
the
older
technologies
that
weren't
as
energy
efficient
to
higher
efficiency
leds
that
went
fairly
well
as
long
as
we
were
on
some
of
the
major
roadways
and
arteries,
but
as
we
got
into
some
of
the
more
residential
areas
and
talking
with
a
lot
of
the
customers
or
some
of
the
customers
realize
that
those
are
brighter
than
had
previously
been
out
there
for
sure
and
probably
brighter
than
we
wanted.
N
So
we
pulled
back
the
reins,
and
in
2018
we
initiated
the
master
plan
update
and
that
was
to
address
our
inventory
of
greater
than
roughly
well
roughly
15
500
lights
in
our
inventory
right
now
and
that's
going
to
grow
as
the
city
continues
to
expand,
especially
so
2018.
We
started
the
plan
2020
we
completed
it
and
now
or
2020,
because
we
did
in
2021
now
we're
looking
to
have
it
adopted
so
some
of
the
drivers.
For
that,
as
I
mentioned,
we
had
public
feedback.
We
have
changing
standards.
N
You
can
only
imagine
from
that
1908
poll
to
today
how
standards
have
changed.
We
really
wanted
to
look
holistically
at
the
city
with
street
lightings.
Look
at
safety,
look
at
environmental
health,
look
at
equity,
look
at
character,
look
at
responsibility
and
some
of
those
I'll
come
back
to
some
of
those
common
themes.
As
our
guide
goes
as
I
go
through
the
presentation
part
of
what
we
did,
we
looked
at
the
existing
conditions.
N
So
our
next
steps
again
tonight
we're
here
with
the
commission,
the
planning,
commission
and
we'll
go
back
to
the
council,
hopefully
with
your
recommendation
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
prioritization
planning
and
implementation
phase
of
the
master
plan
as
we
go
forward
and
that
planning
horizon
is
going
to
be
years,
it's
going
to
be
years
to
get
the
funding
right
and
determine
what
our
priorities
are
and
how
we
go
forward
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
coming
slides.
N
The
master
plan
is
in
two
parts:
it's
got
a
master
plan
behind
one
and
line.
Two
is
a
technical
guidance
and
implementation
together,
they're
looking
at
the
system
background
and
evaluation
of
that,
the
plant
guide
post,
which
I
mentioned
and
I'll
mention
again
street
lighting
basics.
You
know
what
what
is
illuminance
versus
luminance,
what
are
kelvin
temperatures
things
like
that:
we've
gone
through
a
full
process
for
evaluating
the
lighted
environment
considerations
and
improvements,
whether
they're,
comprehensive
or
minimal,
looking
at
controls
and
dimming
and
also
calculation.
N
So
the
plan
really
takes
us
from
prioritization
to
lighting
strategies
layouts
to
criteria.
To
then
implementations
note
on
the
bottom
of
the
slide.
I
do
want
to
mention
that
this
is
a
street
lighting's
master
plan,
so
street
lighting
and
a
walkway
sidewalks
on
the
streets.
It
does
not
include
parks,
cemeteries,
open
spaces
unless
there's
a
road
going
through
the
open
space,
but
we
don't
without
lighting
open
spaces
per
say,
jordan,
river
areas
and
private.
N
That
said,
a
lot
of
the
concepts
that
we've
developed
in
this
master
plan
will
will
and
can
be
adopted
by
these
other
groups.
For
example,
the
university
of
utah
was
one
of
our
stakeholders
and
they're
taking
a
lot
of
the
guidelines.
N
N
We
have
technical
committees
from
the
city,
whether
it's
sustainability,
public
safety,
fire
police,
transportation
planning,
public
lands
and
engineering,
and
then
the
stakeholder
group
was
pretty
varied,
whether
it
was
education
like
we
said,
university
of
utah,
tracy
aviator
was
involved,
bicycling
communities
involved,
various
environmental
groups,
transportation
and
even
the
downtown
alliance.
So
we
feel
like
we.
We
went
through
a
fairly
robust
process
with
these
stakeholder
groups
to
develop
not.
N
First
off
guy
posts
again
I'll
hit
these
a
few
times.
Safety
safety
is
always
one
of
our
priorities.
Lighting
does
provide
safety
aspects
to
the
city
and
we
can't
ignore
that
the
police
were
very
involved
and
fire
with
what
they
wanted
to
see
the
place
character
character,
as
you
all
know,
from
the
planning
commission
and
all
your
work
with
the
city,
every
community
and
every
neighborhood
has
its
own
character.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
differentiate
for
those
all
that
character
across
the
city.
N
As
much
as
we
possibly
can
keeping
in
mind,
we
don't
want
to
have
an
inventory
of
you
know:
a
hundred
thousand
different
types
of
lights,
we're
dealing
with
as
we
go
forward
or
15,
000
lights,
500
rights.
That's
all!
We
have
responsibility,
whether
it's
environmental
responsibility
or
just
responsibility
of
the
neighborhood,
to
really
use
useful
light,
so
that
triangle
of
useful
light,
rather
than
a
light,
trespass
which
would
be
backlight
or
up
light
or
glare
as
we
go
forward
and
then
equity.
N
Keeping
all
this
in
mind,
we've
got
some
key
policy
statements
that
we've
developed
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
use,
as
we
do
implementation
again
safety.
These
a
lot
of
these
will
focus
on
our
on
our
guideposts,
so
safety.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
implement
industry
record
design
standards
for
sheet
lighting
safety
going
to
encourage
dimming
strategies.
So
that's
something
we
want
to
be
able
to
look
at
so
that
we
can
address
pedestrian
activity,
wildlife
and
dark
skies.
N
An
example
of
this
might
be
say:
there's
a
basketball
game
finishing
up
downtown
at
the
at
the
event
center
there.
Maybe
the
lights
are
brighter,
as
people
are
coming
and
going,
but
later
in
the
night
they
might
be
dimmed
down
and
the
same
might
be
true
in
a
neighborhood
during
school
outages
or
during
high
traffic
volumes
that
might
be
a
little
higher
and
then
later
in
the
evening,
we
could
dim
those
down
throughout
the
night.
N
We
want
to
minimize
obtrusive
effects
like
I
mentioned,
the
backlight,
the
uplight
and
the
glare.
A
lot
of
this
is
light,
trespassing
to
avoid
light
pollution
glare,
and
we
can
do
that
through
appropriate
poles,
fixtures,
light
types
and
light
levels
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that
provide
pedestrian
lighting.
N
With
neighborhood
plans
and
typologies,
we
actually
delayed
our
our
master
plan
a
little
bit
with
the
typology
work
going
on
in
the
city.
So
we
made
sure
that
we
could
address
those
as
we
go
forward
and
that's
something
you
want
to
be
sensitive
to
sensitive
thinking
of
sensitivity.
I
just
saw
this
word
in
my
in
my
vision.
N
I
think
marian
mentioned
him
he's
a
professor
at
ucla
who's,
a
very
into
the
wrong
slide,
who's
very
involved
in
dark
skies
and
wildlife,
and
is
very
instrumental
in
what
we're
doing
here
and
then
implementation
with
community
and
neighborhood
input.
So
they
all
there's
common
themes
across
all
of
these
this
week.
N
So
here's
here's
some
of
the
things
we
looked
at
so
keeping
our
guideposts
and
and
our
our
goals
in
mind.
We
looked
at
appropriate
light
levels,
what's
appropriate
for
open
space,
industrial
single-family,
residential
commercial,
retail
and
multi-family
some
require
more
light.
Some
might
require
less,
depending
on
the
type
of
interactions
there
are
with
vehicles
or
pedestrians,
or
the
comings
and
goings
of
the
people
of
the
city,
and
then
adaptive
dimming,
like
I
mentioned,
can
we
this
would
be
more
of
a
long-term
goal.
N
This
would
require
some
smart
city
technology
and
some
some
telemetry
for
our
lights
to
be
able
to
dim
them
down
at
different
times
at
night.
As
we
go
forward,
we
also
looked
at
color
temperature.
This
is
this
is
a
big
one
that
that
helped
guide
a
lot
of
the
plan.
Also,
so
you
can
see
this
scale
across
the
bottom,
and
another
image
I
could
have
put
in
here
is
just
a
if
you
have
a
gas
range
at
your
home.
N
Sometimes
you'll
see
blue
and
sometimes
you'll
see
kind
of
a
warmer
amber
color,
and
that's
just
the
color
temperature
of
those
of
those
lights.
We're
looking
to
stay
down
in
the
3000
below
range
here,
as
you
go
forward
so
kind
of
open
space
areas
on
the
fringe.
We'd
be
2000,
color
temperature
or
it's
a
color
render
or
correlated
color.
N
So
I
had
to
think
about
the
cct
I
have
too
many
acronyms
in
my
life
color
correlated
color
temperature.
It's
in
the
2
000
kelvin
range.
We
get
a
little
warmer
as
we
get
into
single
family
or
a
little
less
warm.
I
guess,
as
we
come
into
a
single
family,
residential
and
then
more
neutral
in
the
3000
kelvin
windshield.
N
So
that's
that's
something
we
definitely
will
be
looking
individually
across
the
city
with
each
one
of
these
guideposts.
As
we
look
light
trespass.
This
is
just
a
bigger
version
of
the
image
you
saw
earlier
with
the
useful
light.
The
backlight,
the
uplight,
the
glare,
often
often
referred
to
as
bug
bug,
lighting
back
light
up
light
and
glare.
N
We
want
to
reduce
those
three
things
and
keep
the
light
where
we
want
it
with
the
useful
light
and
then
also
balancing
with
safety
and
character,
as
is
a
priority
on
holidays
again
glare
uniformity
guide
towards
a
uniform.
N
Sometimes
it's
good
to
have
a
lot
of
uniformity,
and
sometimes
we
might
want
to
have
less
where
it's
light
dark
like
dark
or
but
we
want
to
keep
keep
people
from
having
to
adjust
continuing
as
we
go
forward
and
then
environmental
responsibility,
lighting
upgrades-
and
this
is
going
to
be
with
our
cover
heads-
we
can
do
leds
that
we
can
direct
that
light
to
useful
light
with
our
teardrops.
We
can
go
to
a
more
less
glare
or
less
up
light
type
of
light
that
directs
where
we
want
it
and
then
also
with
our
cactus.
N
We
can
do
new
technologies
that
don't
allow
light
to
go
up
or
radiate
out,
but
direct
it
where
we
want
it
to
go.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
we're
looking
to
do
with
upgrades
and
new
installations,
equitable
distribution
of
lighting,
so
the
upper
upper
left.
Let
me
describe
that
image
a
little
bit.
That's
not
what
one
would
see
from
space
looking
down
in
salt
lake
city,
that's
a
heat!
What
we
call
a
heat
map
which
shows
the
density
of
lights
within
the
city,
so
you
can
see
in
the
downtown
area.
N
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
density
in
these
these
areas
here,
whereas
over
here
say
a
golf
course,
there's
not
much
there's
no
light
in
there,
whereas
you
come
up
here,
maybe
the
harvard
yale
area
or
the
sugar
house
area,
there's
a
lot
of
private
lights.
I
think
those
are
shown
on
here
too,
so
you
see
just
the
lights
themselves,
with
kind
of
a
halo
put
on
to
show
the
density
of
lights
in
the
area.
N
We
also
want
to
look
at
school
zones,
make
sure
they're
well
lit.
We
want
to
look
at
bus
stops
and
track
stations,
make
sure
they're,
welded
and
then
neighborhood
byways
make
sure
they
have
appropriate
lighting
as
we
go
forward
and
again.
This
is
where
we're
going
to
get
into
some
areas
want
more
somewhat
less.
N
We,
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
balancing
act
as
we
go
with
all
of
these
and
then
environmental
responsibility,
lighting
upgrades
for
these
sensitive
areas
and
whether
you've
got
bird
habitat
out
here.
You've
got
critical
wildlife
habitat
here
in
the
fringes
you've
got.
This
is
the
city
creek
corridor,
red
view,
immigration
and
parleys.
N
Here,
you've
got
liberty
park
neighborhood,
so
we
just
we
want
to
take
take
this
into
account
as
we're
looking
at
different
lighting
options,
as
we
go
forward
also,
and
we
can
identify
that
through
spectrum
through
controls,
this
will
be
dimming
controls
or
through
shielding.
If
we
need
to
do
that
or
articulation
of
the
light
heads
themselves,
this
kind
of
takes
the
environmental,
responsive
lighting
puts
it
into
just
a
matrix
where
all
the
different
types
of
areas
we
looked
at,
whether
it's
commercial
to
open
space
and
wildlife
habitat.
C
N
A
continuous
stream
is
it
non-continuous
what
type
of
backlighting,
so
this
is
just
a
b
stands
for
backlighting
and
then
the
lower
the
number
the
less
backlighting
there
is,
then,
look
at
shielding
we're
going
to
look
at
the
spectrum.
That's
the
color
spectrum,
like
the
fire
on
your
gas
range,
we'll
look
at
dimming
options,
part
night
lighting
and
then
just
intensity.
What
we
can
do
with
these
things.
So
again,
a
lot
of
this
will
come
to
implementation
on
the
case
by
case
and
neighborhood.
N
We
also
want
to
look
at
adjacent
land
use,
whether
it's
you
know,
retail,
commercial,
industrial
and
then
well,
and
then
also
what
type
of
street
it
is,
whether
it's
you
know
two
lanes
of
traffic
parking
lanes,
biking
lanes
whatever
it
might
be
and
we'll
want
to
make
sure
we're
lighting
the
appropriate
areas
as
we
go
forward.
N
So
our
next
steps,
so
that's
that's
kind
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are,
and
our
next
steps
now
are
to
prioritize
to
fund
and
to
start
implementing
them
so
priority.
One
is
when
we
look
at
underserved
neighborhoods
areas
that
just
don't
meet
our
baseline
needs
right
now,
when
looked
at
high
conflict
areas
and
by
conflict
I
mean
high,
basically
pedestrian
or
bicycle
vehicle
conflict,
so
it'd
be
school
zones.
Bus
stops,
transit
and
byways.
N
Priority
two
is
non-compliant
street
lighting,
so
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
underserved.
I
guess,
and
then
ongoing
is
just
scheduled
replacement
with
compliant
lights,
whether
it's
luminaires
ecologically
sensitive
areas,
whether
we
do
it
dimming
and
how
we
fund
a
lot
of
that
stuff.
As
we
go
forward.
Some
information
steps
in
planning
horizon
again
step
one.
We
just
mentioned
a
little
bit
identify
and
prioritize
areas.
N
A
N
N
It's
going
to
it's
kind,
it's
very,
it's
probably
a
very
somewhat
nebulous
term,
but
it's
going
to
be
depend
on
each
neighborhood
as
we
go
into
them
and
dane
I
don't
know
if
dan
you
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question
a
little
bit
better
than
I
can.
M
As
we
were
looking
at
this
with
public
utilities-
and
you
know
that
the
neighborhood
byways
were
was
a
map
that
actually
exists
in
the
on
you
on
the
salt
lake
city
websites,
about
bike
routes
that
are
encouraged,
so
whether
they're
just
safer
bike
routes
or
they
have
specific
bike
lanes,
so
that
one
of
the
maps
that
was
in
the
presentation
actually
shows
the
salt
lake
city,
neighborhood
byways.
M
A
Okay,
so
I
have
some
other
questions
that
have
come
up
in
this
neighborhood
group
that
I
monitor
just
totally
randomly
this
issue
of
lighting
came
up.
So
how
do
you
handle
when
a
resident
requests
the
light
on
their
street?
What
is
the
process
for
that
now.
N
So
a
lot
of
times
what
I'll
do-
and
I
might
turn
this
over
to
dave
pearson,
our
street
lighting
manager,
but
a
lot
of
times.
It
requires
some
interviewing
of
the
neighborhood
itself,
because,
like
I
mentioned,
you
might
want
a
light,
whereas
your
neighbor
might
not
want
to
light
so
dave
if
you're
on.
Would
you
take
that
question.
J
J
It
takes
a
lot
of
surveying
a
lot
of
polling
of
the
neighbors
and
a
lot
of
study
of
the
existing
street
to
see
if
it
warrants
another
light.
A
lot
of
the
requests
we
receive
are
to
protect
personal
property,
a
guy
had
some
items
stolen
off
his
porch,
and
he
wants
a
street
light
to
help
light
up
his
porch
items
like
that.
So
we
have
to
jump
to
each
request
individually,
and
this
master
plan
will
help
go
a
long
ways
to
help
us
address.
A
J
It's
it's
very
dependent
on
the
street
usage
and
the
adjacent
use
in
residential
neighborhoods.
We
would
like
to
see
lower
lights
at
a
tighter,
spacing
pedestrian
level.
Lights
is
what
we
refer
to
them,
as
in
in
commercial
areas
such
as
state
street
or
redwood
or
foothill.
We
can
get
away
with
a
taller
light
with
a
larger
spacing,
because
those
taller
lights
can
throw
the
light
further
and
we
don't
need
as
many
lights.
So
it's
it's.
A
very
customizable
approach
to
land
use
street
width,
pedestrian
count.
J
M
Guess,
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
too
that
the
plan
is
intended
to
really
have
that
community
feedback
be
part
of
the
next
step
about
what
what
is
actually
going
to
be
implemented
there
not
just
going
in
and
doing
this
thing.
Like
dave
said
it's
not
a
cookie
cutter
approach,
so
you
may
find
still
in
some
in
in
some
residential
neighborhoods.
M
Just
a
light
at
the
interst
at
each
intersection
may
be
all
that's
appropriate
for
one
community
and
another
community.
That
is
not
appropriate
for
what
they
want.
So
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna
be
unique
to
each
neighborhood.
A
Because
I
don't
think
I
saw
in
your
priorities
where
you
were
addressing,
like,
I
guess,
presidential
requests,
and
so
I
was
wondering
where
that
would
fit
in
how
you
handle
them
now
and
then
how
that
would
fit
in,
because
I
didn't
really
see
it
laid
out
in
your
priority
list.
N
And
I
think
on
that
with,
when
we
get
those
we,
we
will
take
those
into
consideration
as
we
go
forward.
Like
dave
said,
we
now
have
a
plan,
will
help
us
better
address
those
those
requests,
but
again
we're
not
we're
never
going
to
not
make
them
a
priority.
I
think
they're
going
to
be
more
one-offs
as
they
come
up
and
the
plan
is
more
a
broad
brush.
I
would
say.
A
B
We
do
first,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
cindy
cindy.
Is
this
something
you
want
to
speak
on
tonight.
B
I
got
it.
Thank
you.
Okay
next
is
lisa.
Hazel
lisa
sent
an
email
at
least
I'll
unmute
you
in
just
a
minute.
Lisa
sent
an
email
earlier
that
we
forwarded
on
to
you
emailed
it
to
you
and
put
it
in
your
dropbox.
So
you
have
that
lisa.
Would
you
also
like
to
speak?
K
Okay,
my
name
is
lisa
hazel.
I
am
here
to
ask
you
to
please
not
approve
the
streetlight
draft
master
plan
in
its
current
form
and
to
send
it
back
to
public
utilities
for
modifications.
For
the
reasons
that
I
sent
you
into
my
comments-
and
I
do
want
to
go
over
a
few
of
my
comments-
that
I
sent
you
as
well
as
a
few
that
I've
thought
of
in
the
meantime,
one
in
particular,
I
am
at
well.
I
participated
in
a
lot
of
well
part
of
the
public
comment
process.
K
I
also
was
there
in
the
meeting
with
this
consulting
company
gsbs,
and
I'm
asking.
I
have
asked
the
well
public
utilities
to
lower
the
comfort
color
temperature
and
because
it's
better
for
all
residents
involved-
and
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
point
out-
is
the
high
density
urban
area
of
salt
lake
city
needs
to
have
lower
color
temperatures.
All
areas
of
salt
lake
city
contain
wildlife
and
are
natural
with
the
needs
for
insects
and
healthy
balance
of
wildlife
in
humans.
K
The
circadian
rhythm
of
humans
has
evolved
to
go
to
sleep
when
it
gets
dark
and
wake
up
when
the
eye
sees
light.
As
night
lightening
lighting
deviates
from
lower
lower
color
temperature
to
higher
ones,
the
body's
internal
clock
gets
confused
and
exhaustion
seeps
in
this
exhaustion
is
linked
to
many
health
issues,
including
high
cardio,
cardiovascular
risk,
peptic,
ulcer
disease,
a
high
abortion
and
miscarriage
rates,
lower
pregnancy
rates,
higher
rates
of
substance,
abuse,
depression
and
hormone
influence.
K
Cancers
such
as
breast
cancer
and
prostate
cancer,
according
to
unanimous
support
from
the
american
medical
association
and
the
end
of
night
by
paul
beaugaard,
light
at
night
disrupts
that
is
suppresses
the
body's
production
of
melatonin,
which
the
human
body
produces
only
in
darkness
and
that
melatonin
plays
a
key
role
in
keeping
these
types
of
cancers
from
growing
light
from
the
moon
stars
candles
or
fire.
None
of
these
are
bright
enough
to
cause
the
disruption
only.
A
Electric,
that's
time,
miss
hazel.
Your
two
minutes
is
up.
Thank
you
and
we
did
get
your
comments
in
our
in
our
dropbox
folder.
H
A
Thank
you
next
wayne.
G
B
G
B
Last
week,
when
I
saw
this
on
the
agenda,
I
sent
an
inquiry
to
david
pearson,
the
streetlight
program
manager,
whose
name
was
listed
on
the
original
planning
commission
agenda.
I
asked
what
sort
of
public
outreach
had
happened
regarding
this
master
plan.
I
did
not
get
a
response.
I
asked
a
number
of
trustees
of
the
sugar
house
community
council
if
they
remembered
any
discussion
regarding
this
and
no
one
had
any
recollection
of
this
at
all.
B
B
That
was
from
judy
short
next.
We
have
dave.
Iltus
dave
sent
us
an
email
that
came
in
at
about
5
30.
Well,
it
came
in
later.
He
sent
it
to
5
30,
but
we
didn't
get
it
until
later.
I
made
a
pdf
of
that
email
put
it
in
your
dropbox,
so
you
have
that,
but
dave
is
also
here
dave.
Can
you
speak.
F
Great,
my
name
is
dave
altus.
I
live
in
salt
lake
city.
I
am
also
asking
the
planning
commission
and
to
reject
the
street
light
draft
master
plan
in
its
current
form
and
to
modify
it
to
have
public
utilities,
modify
it
before,
accepting
it
and
passing
it
along
to
the
city
council.
F
The
streetlight
draft
master
plan
is
a
good
start
in
many
areas,
but
it
is
not
strong
enough,
nor
is
it
sensitive
enough
to
the
environment,
people,
wildlife
and
insects
in
its
current
form.
The
main
problem
with
the
plan
is
that
it
recommends
color
temperatures
that
are
too
high.
It
recommends
color
temperatures
of
3000
k
in
most
areas
within
the
city.
Current
sodium
bulbs
are
around
2200k.
F
They
are
much
closer
to
the
color
temperature
of
fire,
which
is
1800k,
which
is
what
we've
evolved
to
look
at
and
to
be
able
to
go
to
sleep
with,
and
the
3000k
is
just
far
too
bright.
The
the
public
utilities
has
a
number
of
things
in
the
plan
that
are
not
based
on
sound
science,
including
the
idea
that
higher
color
temperatures
are
safer.
They
are
not
they're,
also
bad
for
they're,
very
bad
for
insects,
very
bad
for
birds.
F
F
There
are
many
myths
about
led
street
lights
and
led
street
lights
are
great
if
they
are
the
right,
color
temperature
and
the
right
lumen
output,
but
salt
lake
public
utilities
has
not
over
time
shown
that
they've
been
had
any
interest
whatsoever
in
testing
out
lower
color
temperature
bulbs
and
they've
also
gone
against
the
recommendations
from
what
I
remember
of
the
planners,
who
recommended
much
lower
color
temperatures,
and
yet
the
final
plan
seems
to
have
ignored
those
recommendations
from
the
from
the
consultants,
including
mr
longcore,
who
is
on
this
meeting
call
streetlights,
don't
have
to
be
bright
enough
to
read
at
night,
and
they,
you
know
felt
like
needs
stronger,
stronger
policy
statements
in
there,
including
the
goal
of
having
salt
lake,
be
a
dark
sky
community.
A
Thank
you.
Your
your
time
is
up.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
think
we
understand
what
you're
getting
at
so
thank
you
wayne.
B
Sorry
about
that
looking
forward,
we
do
not
have
anyone
else
in
attendance
for
and
we
haven't
received
any
more
emails.
So
that's
it.
Okay,.
H
A
E
A
Okay:
okay,
then,
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
and
if
anyone
from
the
the
panel
jesse
dave
dame
want
to
respond
to
the
the
color
temperature
issue,
which
came
up
in
both
of
those
comments
and
then
judy's
comment
is
what
type
of
public
outreach
did
you
actually
engage
in
for
the
plan.
M
Sure
so
you
know
this
process
that
we
went
through
for
the
entire
plan
included.
You
know,
advisory
committee
with
that
included
people
from
you
know
all
districts,
residents
from
all
districts
included
multiple
different
stakeholders,
and
you
know
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this.
This
conversation
of
color
temperature
is
certainly
one
of
consideration
for
the
entire
lighting
industry.
Right
now,
and
I
believe
this
master
plan
has
addressed
that
in
a
more
comprehensive
way
than
almost
any
other
city
has
addressed.
M
That
I
mean
this
is
this
is
pushing
really
to
protect
wildlife
and
we
we
brought
travis
longhorn
in
I'll.
Let
travis
speak
about
the
wildlife
considerations
specifically,
but
you
know
we're
considering
the
entire
city
community.
M
M
M
That
kind
of
you
know,
interior
light
level
is,
is
something
to
to
consider
the
the
light
level
of
street
lighting
we're
working
to
really
reduce
that
light
level
even
below
those
some
of
the
national
standards,
taking
advantage
of
the
visibility
of
you
know
the
led
lights
that
they
actually
provide
better
visibility
and
that
you
can
dim
them
down.
M
M
All
of
those
things
come
to
play
with
how
much
light
you're
exposed
to
the
the
light
at
enlightened
health.
We
actually
we've
worked
with
the
the
doctor,
dr
george
brainard,
who
was
the
doctor
who
actually.
M
Sort
of
discovered
this
link
between
melatonin
and
and
light
and
dr
brainerd
says
that
what
we
know
is
what
we
we
don't
really
know
enough
about
this
topic.
Yet
we
do
know
that,
when
you're
exposed
to
too
much
light,
it's
really
your
whole
life
history
throughout
the
day
and
and
night,
and
that
the
when
you
go
home
and
turn
on
your
lights,
you're
getting
exposed
to
more
light
than
you
do
in
in
street
lighting.
M
And
so
the
study
from
the
lighting
research
center
shows
that
the
light
level
typical
standard
light
levels
for
street
lighting
do
not
reach
that
threshold
of
suppressing
melatonin.
So
we
have
done
a
lot
of
research
in
this
area
and
feel
that
we've
provided
the
best
balance
of
maximum
color
temperature
for
areas.
You
know
the
3000
kelvin
is
actually
pushing
the
light
level
that
that
color
temperature
down
from
what
many
cities
are
doing
at
4
000
kelvin
and
had
been
doing
before
at
5
000
kelvin
we're
trying
to
avoid
that
entirely.
C
May
I
hop
in
and
add
something
to
that
as
well.
So
one
of
our
stakeholders
to
this
process
was
the
salt
lake
city
police
department
as
well,
and
one
of
their
concerns
with
lower
light
temperatures
is
an
inability
to
see
color
past
a
certain
level.
Color
temperature
is
something
that
we
played
around
with
and
that
we
took
seriously
we've
heard
from
this
is
this
has
been
something
consistent
through
the
project
and
finding
a
happy
balance
of
where
the
safety
issue
meets.
An
acceptable
standard
has
been
a
consideration
in
this
document.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
commissioners
at
this
time,
so.
G
For
my
I,
so
I
don't
feel
educated
enough,
although
I
do
there's
a
there's,
a
line
in
the
gsbs
report
that
says
the
american
medical
association,
international,
dark
sky
association,
both
recommend
a
maximum
cct
of
3
000.,
so
it
seems,
like
we've
picked
the
highest
that
they
would
recommend
and
I'm
just
wondering
why
we
picked
the
highest
rather
than
set
the
bar
a
little
more
aggressively.
G
Because
I
mean
I
I
we
would
have
to
lean
on
experts.
I
have
no
idea
what
what's
appropriate
or
not
or
what
you
know.
M
So
2700
kelvin
is
your
typical
incandescent
light
that
you
have
in
your
house
like
historically
and
3000
is
just
a
little
bit
above
that.
G
I
understand
that
I'm
just
wondering
why
we
chose
3,
000
or
or
if
it
was
chosen
just
because
this
was
the
maximum
that
the
medical
association,
the
national
antarctic
association
recommended
we
chose
three
thousand.
I
mean
I
just
want
like
I,
I
don't
know
what,
like
I
unders,
I'm
not
I'm
not
the
right
person
making
a
determination
how
warm
or
cold
these
lights
are.
You
know
should
be,
but
I'm
just
wondering
why
you
chose
three
thousand
yeah.
N
I
thought
sorry,
I
found
my
own
mute
button
here,
so
let
me
jump
in
here
for
a
second,
so
I
I
put
this
slide.
I
kind
of
went
back
through
the
slideshow
to
show
that
we're
really
ranging
from
2000
to
3000
here.
So
it's
not
the
whole
city
will
be
3
000,
but
some
areas
will
have
two
some
2700
and
some
three
so
go
ahead.
Dan.
I
didn't
need
to
cut
you
out
there.
M
Yeah
that
the
especially
in
the
retail
commercial
areas,
the
3000
kelvin,
it
has
a
a
few
different
benefits
there
of
the
improved
color
like
consistency,
color
quality
surfaces,
and
we
have
also
the
3000
kelvin
yeah.
There
was
a.
I
think.
One
of
the
comments
was
that
higher
color
temperature
doesn't
doesn't
equate
to
any,
doesn't
equate
to
safety.
M
Did
some
visibility,
studies
in
seattle
with
the
northwest
energy
efficiency
alliance
and
virginia
tech
transportation
institute
and
found
that
we
study
from
4
000
kelvin
down
to
3,
000
kelvin
and
then
also
the
the
2000
or
yeah
2200
of
high
pressure
sodium
and
the
the
high
pressure
sodium
lights.
When
you
reduce
the
light
level
by
50
percent,
you
also
reduce
the
visibility,
the
the
the
distance
at
which
somebody
can
see
an
object.
You
reduce
that
distance
by
50
under
the
white
light
leds
down
to
3
000
kelvin.
M
We
we
dimmed
those
from
100
to
50
down
to
25
and
with
white
light
those
the
detection
distance
only
incrementally
stepped
down.
So
the
there
is
study
and
evidence
that
you
can
with
with
3000
kelvin.
You
can
dim
that
light
and
below
any
of
the
ies
standards
and
still
maintain
good
visibility.
M
So
there
are
some
safety
issue.
You
know
improvements
with
visibility
with
with
3000
kelvin
and
that
the.
M
D
D
This
issue
that
you're
facing
right
now
is
is
a
very
important
one
that
scientists
in
the
both
epidemiology
and
ecology
are
discussing
around
the
world
right
now,
and
we
have
these
arguments
we
back
and
forth
about.
You
know
what's
more
important,
the
brightness
or
the
spectrum
or
whatnot,
and
and
so
but
the
thing
is
you
can't
look
at
those
two
things
separately
and
and
so
the
whole
plan.
D
I
put
forward
all
the
literature
on
the
effects
of
lights,
on
wildlife
and
and
on
human
health,
and
that's
known
and
is,
is
incorporated
into
the
decision-making
process
here
for
this
plan.
But
there
is
a
you
can't
just
look
at
one
thing,
all
alone,
just
spectrum
or
just
intensity,
because
we
do
have
shielding
issues
going
on
here
and
specifications
are
being
met.
We
have
the
dimming,
that's
part
of
this
plan
and
the
choice
and
warrants
of
where
lighting
goes
and
where
it
doesn't
go.
D
It's
all
designed
to
deal
with
the
overall
impact
on
whatever
the
sensitive
receptor
might
be
balanced,
with
the
need
to
see
the
things
that
you
need
to
see,
and
I
will
say
I
talk
to
people
all
around
the
country
about
this
kind
of
a
topic,
and
this
will,
to
my
knowledge,
be
the
first
time
that
a
jurisdiction
would
put
forward
a
plan
that
explicitly
changes
and
lowers
the
color
temperature
going
into
more
sensitive
areas,
such
as
open
spaces
and
the
the
north
west
quadrant,
as
you
head
out
toward
the
lake,
especially
in
order
to
protect
wildlife
and
minimize
those
impacts,
also
the
single
family,
residential
going
no
higher
than
2700
kelvin.
D
That
is
a
significant
improvement
over
what
you're,
seeing
many
other
places
around
the
country
right
now.
I
just
need
to
put
that
in
some
context.
Combine
that
with
the
shielding
and
the
balance
that's
being
put
in.
There
are
four
guideposts
in
this
plan,
not
just
not
just
one,
and
so
there
was
in
the
production,
always
a
negotiation
between
the
the
environmental
concerns
that
that
are
articulated
and
that
all
the
different
stakeholders,
both
within
the
city
and
the
community,
in
terms
of
delivering
a
safe
environment
for
for
everybody.
D
So
I
will,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
and
that
this
is
a
really
sophisticated
discussion
for
a
jurisdiction
to
be
having,
at
this
point
in
time
and
to
incorporate
all
this
and
put
forward.
A
for
a
plan
to
to
address
it
is
is,
is
to
be
commended,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
is
a
decision
that
is
made
by
people
who
have
to
manage
many
different
considerations
together
and,
and
I've
presented
the
best
research.
A
Thank
you,
mr
alankor.
Any
other
questions
from
commissioners.
A
Okay,
I
would
be
looking
for
a
motion
at
this
time.
G
G
I
do
have
one
recommendation
that
the
city
council
just
dive
a
little
bit
deeper
into
this
nightline,
the
warmth
of
the
light
kind
of
question
and
make
sure
that
that
discussion
is
presented
by
you
know
where,
where
were
benchmarked,
and
this
this
point
that
we're
in
one
of
the
people,
you
know
states
looking
he's
looking
at
this
and
I
think
the
public
has
a
real
concern
with
it.
I'd
love
to
also
see
the
stars
come
back
up,
so
I
need
to
clean
this
up.
G
So
it's
cleaner
for
you
guys
so
I'll.
Remove
the
planning
commission
for
the
positive
variance
city
council
and
adopt
street
light
master
plan
with
the
company
check
out
guidance,
implementation
document
or
the
recommendation.
The
city
council
further
explore
just
the
warmness
of
the
light
and
the
kelvin
temperatures
and
further
understand
that
fully.
A
I'll
do
I
think
I
heard
crystal
first,
but
I
wasn't
sure
who
it
was
because
I
knew
your
voice
I
just
want
to
before
we
take
a
vote.
Let
the
public
know
that
this
is
not
the
last
engagement
opportunity
you
would
have
on
this.
We
are
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
and
they
will
also
engage
in
public
outreach
and
public
comment.
So
you
know
continue
to
be
involved
in
that.
C
A
C
Well,
yeah,
admittedly
just
like
math,
I
I
I
know
I
rely
mostly
on
the
four
or
five
presenters
that
we
had
today
and
they
seem
to
be
pretty
straightforward.
12
volt,
yes,.
A
Thank
you,
matt,
yes,
okay,
that
passes
unanimously,
and
it
is
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
Thank
you
all
from
public
utilities
and
mr
encore
for
your
your
presence
tonight
and
your
willingness
to
answer
our
questions.
We
appreciate
that.