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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - March 09, 2022
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - March 09, 2022
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A
A
We've
asked
james
wood
who's,
the
from
the
chem
c
gardener
policy
institute
at
the
university
of
utah
to
give
a
presentation
on
housing
and
housing
related
issues
and
and
where,
where
we
stand
as
a
city
and
what's
going
on
and
so
jim,
I
have
your
presentation
and
if
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
any
sure
more
beyond
that,
please
do.
B
Thank
you
nick
and
it's
great
to
be
with
you
and
discuss
really
an
increasingly
important
issue:
the
housing
market
in
utah
and
in
salt
lake
county
and
then
salt
lake
city
and
the
important
role
really.
The
city
has
played
in
not
only
supply
but
affordability
over
the
years,
and
particularly
in
the
last
few
years.
So
we're
really
at
a
a
unique
point.
I
think
in
the
housing
market.
B
B
Where
not
much
happened,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
net
out
migration
very,
very
different,
now
and
and
different
than,
of
course,
what
we
had
with
the
great
recession,
what
the
housing
market
has
experienced
in
the
last
15
years
with
the
great
recession
and
then
the
absolute
paradox
of
record
housing
construction
sales
price
increases
during
a
pandemic
is
really
sometimes
hard
to.
B
You
know:
get
your
arms
around!
It's
two
years
ago,
at
this
time
well,
23
months
ago,
I
guess-
or
we
thought
we
were,
you
know
headed
for
a
really
a
terrific
2020
and
then
by
april
of
2020
we
thought
the
sky
was
falling
and
I
really
thought
along
with
others.
Just
the
housing
market
would
really
suffer
both
buyers
and
and
home
builders
and
developers
would
step
back
and
and
see
what
happened.
B
Residential
units
in
salt
lake
city,
and
I
I've
got
apartments,
condominiums
and
single
family,
and
you
can
see
it's
really
the
difference
to
see
this
difference
in
the
production
of
units
and
the
role
that
the
city
has
played.
3740
permits
issued
for
apartment
units
in
2021,
all-time
record.
You
can
see
back
there
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
this
chart
the
apartment
market
just
was
generally,
we
had
a
few
good
years.
B
Was
above
500
but
units,
but
basically
just
under
500,
not
much
activity
in
the
city
that
was
true
of
both
certainly
condominiums
and
a
single
family,
but
in
2021
it's
just
obviously,
3740
permits
for
apartments
in
67
for
single
family
really
striking.
B
I
was
surprised
when
I
I
put
this
chart
together
today,
but
that's
where
we
are-
and
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
are
are
driving
it
and,
of
course,
the
the
willingness
of
the
city
to
to
really
evolve
into
an
urban
center
with
luxury
apartments,
as
well
as
a
fair
number
of
tax
credit
projects
that
are
under
construction
right
now
in
the
city,
I
think
it's
close
to
that
have
been
approved
or
under
construction
of
the
the
tax
credit
about
3
000
units.
B
So
it's
a
substantial
number,
probably
more
tax
credit
units
under
construction
than
the
city's
ever
had.
So
that's
good.
Those
are
affordable
units.
Many
of
them
are
about
60
ami,
but
that
and
of
course
the
it
you
know.
It
makes
perfect
sense
that
we're
having
this
sort
of
a
boom
in
the
city
because
of
its
transportation
network,
healthcare
network,
job
network
and
the
amenities
that
are
offered
the
cultural
amenities
community
amenities.
B
So
to
have
this
rejuvenation
of
the
city
through
rental
housing.
I
think,
is
terrific.
We
had
this
morning.
We
had
a
a
what
we
call
our
newsmaker
breakfast,
which
we
have
once
a
month
here
at
the
gardner
policy
institute,
and
I
had
completed
the
study
a
few
weeks
ago
on
the
apartment
market
in
salt
lake
county,
and
we
presented
that
we
had
a
panelist
with
dan
lofgren
from
cowboy
partners
and
mark
jensen
from
collier's
mark
specializes
in
he's
a
broker.
B
They
have
expectations
about
rental
units
and
quality
and
types,
and
we've
really
just
seen
in
the
last
six
or
seven
years,
an
evolution
of
the
rental
stock
in
salt
lake
city.
Addressing
really
that
market.
And
it's
it's
really
quite
remarkable.
I
think
it
happened
in
such
a
short
order
and,
as
mark
jensen
said,
you
know
the
international
well,
some
international
interest,
but
certainly
national
interest
in
investing
in
utah
is,
unlike
anything,
he's
seen
in
his
I
think,
15
years
or
so
as
a
broker.
B
He
gave
an
example
of
last
week.
They
listed
a
an
apartment
project
in
salt
lake
city
that
for
sale,
120
million
dollar
project
completed
it,
they
got
400
inquiries
and
they
got
29
offers
for
the
project,
and
so
that
gives
you
some
idea
his
firm
last
year,
and
I
show
I'm
sure
most
of
this
is
in
salt.
Lake
county
did
two
billion
dollars
worth
of
sales
activity
on
the
apartment
market,
so
the
interest
that
does
stimulate,
of
course,
developers.
B
This
is
shows
the
county,
and
on
that
last
slide
you
could
see
that
well
in
the
county
here.
What
you
can
see
is
we
had
county-wide
6672
672
permits
issued
for
apartment
units
and
that's
more
than
we
had
for
resident
or
more
than
half
of
what
we
had
for
residential,
so
we're
getting
more
apartments
now
in
the
county,
but
not
not
anywhere
near
the
the
disproportion
that
we
see
in
the
city.
B
But
it's
that's
quite
unusual
and
that's
a
phenomenon
really
coming
out
of
2014
the
recession
when
this
boom
really
started.
B
Recovery
started
in
the
second
quarter
of
2012,
but
the
the
apartment
boom
started
in
really
in
2014,
and
we've
had
several
years
in
the
county
where
rental
units
are
exceeding
single-family
and
and
condominium
units.
So
next.
B
This
just
shows
you
this
again
is
salt
lake
county,
and
you
can
see
the
the
last
three
years
and
then
there's
a
few
years
prior
to
that,
where
more
than
half
of
new
residential
construction,
our
apartment
units,
next.
B
From
2010
to
2021,
again
salt
lake
city,
this
is
the
comparison
of
what
you
have
contributed.
Almost
half
of
all
of
the
apartment
units
in
that
10-year
span
and-
and
most
of
those
would
be
well,
I
think,
as
I
remember,
over
90
percent
are
from
2014
to
the
present.
B
We
did
a
study
a
few
years
ago,
a
three-year
study
actually
with
hud
and
one
of
the
goals
that
they
they
wanted
for
for
counties
and
markets.
Housing
markets
was
a
they
wanted
to
look,
have
a
a
better
distribution
in
throughout
a
county
of
affordable
units,
and
we
used
we
would
meet
with
several
other
cities
metro
areas.
B
It
was
a
grant
program,
we
had
that
went
for
three
years
and
there
were
40
other
cities
that
were
select
or
metro
areas
that
were
selected
and
they
got
real
pushback
on
that.
For
the
very
reasons
that
I
just
mentioned,
you
know,
first
of
all,
people
want
to
live
where
they
they
like.
B
They
want
to
be
proximity
to
employment
and
transportation,
and
so
on.
So
you
know
it's
it's
great.
I
love
tracks,
but
you
know
you
go
out.
You
go
out
to
daybreak
with
tracks
and
there's,
I
think,
there's
a
story
behind
that
and
it's
mainly
students
that
ride
it.
B
That's
great,
but
I
I
you
know
if
I
were
king
and
we
go
back
to
2000,
I
would
have
put
the
line
west
in
west
valley
beyond
30th
west
and
go
down
35th
south
to
where
you
have
transit,
dependent
people
and
the
same.
I
would
have
gone
over
to
taylorsville.
B
If
you
look
at
the
distribution
of
housing
vouchers
in
salt
lake
county,
you
see
clusters
in
taylorsville
and
west
side
of
west
valley,
and
I
would
guess
a
lot
of
those
households
are
transit,
dependent
on
public
transport
transportation
and
they
did
put
a
rapid
bus
line
down,
35th,
which,
which
is
great,
but
you
know
that
was
long
ago
watered
downstream
now.
B
But
it's
it's
the
transportation
system
to
coordinate
that
with
not
just
ridership,
and
you
know
years
ago
I
think
they've
changed
andrew's
done
a
good
job
at
andrew
gruber
there,
but
what
they
wanted
to
do.
They
were
incentivized
to
get
people
on
out
of
their
cars
and
and
they
didn't
go
down
to
the
next
level-
well,
who's,
who's,
transit,
dependent
and
anyway.
So
because
of
that
really,
though
it's
salt
lake
city,
I
think
you
know
with
the
transportation
system.
It's
it's
terrific
with
these.
B
This
is
a
pipeline
of
units
under
construction
and
proposed
right
now
in
salt
lake
county.
We
have
almost
10
000
units
under
construction,
and
you
know
there's
it's
really
and
these
numbers
came
from
the
fall
and
I
did
get
a
a
list
of
well.
I
I
cobbled
together
a
list
from
a
number
of
sources
of
projects
that
are
under
construction
now
in
salt
lake
county,
and
I
I
just
took
the
ones
in
salt,
lake
city
and.
B
I
I
went
around
and
visited
a
few
days
ago:
41
different
sites
apartment
sites
to
see
if
they
were
really
under
construction.
I
had
the
list
developed
and
it
came
to
a
very
big
number,
a
number
of
about
8
000.
B
Which
is
considerably
more
than
I
show
here
for
the
city,
so
I
thought
well,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
they
there's
all
this
construction
going
on
and
I
drove
around
and
I
visited
41
different
sites
and
in
fact
I
tallied
that
up
and
it
was
about
8
000
units
are
under
construction.
Now
in
salt
lake
city,
salt
lake
city
has
a
housing
inventory
of
about
50
000..
B
So
that's
that's
a
fair
increase
in
the
inventory.
B
It's
a
significant
increase
in
the
inventory
over
a
fairly
short
period
of
time
and
if
a
high
percentage
of
those
units
are
in
the
downtown
area
or
in
the
periphery,
I
also
surveyed
24
different
projects,
and
this
was
in
the
last
four
or
five
days,
24
different
projects
in
salt
lake
city,
and
these
are
all
newer
projects,
various
sizes,
but
all
in
the
city
and
primarily
downtown
and
periphery.
B
Again,
because
that's
where
the
development
has
been
and
those
24
projects
had
4
000
units,
just
under
4
000
units,
there
were
43
vacant
units
out
of
4
000..
Now
the
question
I
ask
when
I
survey
a
project
I'll
call
and
first
get
the
rental
rates
and
then
I'll
ask
them.
If
I
came
in
today,
taranis
studio
apartment,
how
many
units
do
you
have
that
are
available
for
immediate
occupancy?
B
Now
I've
done
this
for
20
years
for
cushman
wakefield
and
I've
never
had
the
sort
of
response
that
I
I've
got
this
last
year
and
I
used
the
same
format
a
couple
of
days
ago
when
I
did
the
24
projects
and
typically
what
happens
is
so
there's
a
one
percent
vacant.
It's
just
turnover
it's
one
percent
vacancy,
but
but
if
you
go
in
as
a
potential
renter
and
you
want
to
rent
a
unit
the
way
it
is
now
they
you
know,
they
invite
you
to
come
in.
B
You
fill
out
the
forms,
the
documentation
they
do,
the
backroom
check
and
a
background
check
and
credit
check
and
then
they'll
they'll,
say:
okay
you're
on
the
waiting
list.
A
unit
is
available
in
30
days,
sometimes
60
days,
depending
on
how
they
take
notices
the
apartment
project.
So
it's
the
days
of
going
in
and
choosing
an
apartment.
Moving
in
on
the
weekend
are
gone
right
now,
and
so
that's
that
is
a
such
an
indicator
of
where
we
are
in
the
housing
shortage.
B
There's
so
much
stress
right
now
in
the
apartment
market.
Excuse
me
I'm
on
a
call
and
yeah,
but
as
we'll
talk
about
here
in
a
minute
we're
getting
a
lot
of
under
construction
projects
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
proposed
projects
which
is
you
know,
it's
been
encouraged
by
the
market
conditions
and
you
can
see
there.
B
B
They
fall
off
because
of
financing
or
because
of
opposition
local
opposition
of
the
project
and
some
are
delayed
beyond
that.
Three-Win
three-year
window
with
with
supply
shortages,
labor
shortages,
material
costs
going
up,
and
what's
going
on
now
with
I'm,
you
know,
ukraine,
that's
not
going
to
help
the
housing
market
at
all.
It'll
just
increase
prices
it'll.
B
I
don't
think
it's
catastrophic
at
all,
but
you
know
when
oil
prices
go
up,
oils
transportation,
a
lot
of
product
using
homes
are
oil-based,
so
you
know,
it'll
have
a
it'll
increase
costs
a
bit
and
then
we've
got
interest
rates
going
up
and
the
interest
rates,
the
fed
seems
determined
they're
going
to
raise
rates
mid-month
and
by
50
basis
points-
and
you
know
all
the
talkers
are
going
to
have
several
more
rounds
during
the
during
the
year.
Yes,.
C
So
we
have
about
nine
minutes
left.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
do
some
q
a
with
the
commissioners,
because
I
think
they
might
have
some
questions
to
tap
into
your
knowledge.
I
don't.
B
C
D
B
Yes,
brenda
that
that
that
will,
I
think,
but
not
for
a
while
2022
is
still
going
to
be
a
difficult
year.
I
think
for
the
renter
rental
rates
went
up
over
double
digit
last
year
in
salt
lake
county,
and
I
expect
that
they
will
do
that
again
in
2022.
B
And
I
think
by
2023,
with
many
of
the
units
coming
on,
that
we'll
see
a
moderation,
probably
some
something
below
10
and
rent
increase
and
probably
a
a
little
bit
of
an
increase
in
the
vacancy
rate
by
2024.
I
would
expect
that
rental
rates
will
probably
retreat
to
their
historic
average,
which
is
5.5
percent
increase
a
year,
and
I
I
in
this
study,
came
up
with
a
vacancy
rate
of
about
just
a
little
under
six
percent
by
2024..
B
Now,
that's
a
county-wide
number
keep
in
mind.
The
salt
lake
city
is
about
a
third
so
of
the
rental
market
and
that
six
percent
or
5.7
percent
vacancy
rate
is
for
all
types.
The
unit
all
ages,
not
just
new
product.
I
think
the
new
product
is
particularly
in
downtown,
is
probably
a
little
well,
I'm
sure
it
is
more
vulnerable
to
slower
absorption
and
a
little
push
back
on
rental
rates,
but
out
in
the
suburban
areas.
I
don't
see
much
vulnerability
there.
C
Thank
you
so
james,
I'm
wondering
do
we
often
hear
developers
come
before
us
and
we
some
questions
arise
with
community
comments,
etc
about
the
variety
of
unit
sizes.
So
there
are
heavy
on
studios
and
one
bedrooms
and
we're
not
really
seeing
much
two
or
three
bedrooms
and
developers
will
say
that
the
studies
indicate
there's
not
a
market
for
those.
Can
you
enlighten
us
on
what
kind
of
studies
they
access
to
determine
that
and
if,
if
there
would
be
a
market,
if
we
were
increasing
some
of
our
apartment
sizes.
B
B
Over
50
percent
will
be
one
or
two-person
households,
but
I
do
worry
about.
I
can
have
a
concern
for
that,
if
particularly
on
the
affordable
side
of
those
3
000,
affordable
units
that
are
approved
or
and
under,
and
some
of
them
are
under
construction
in
salt
lake
city.
B
Over
70
percent
are
studios
in
one
bedroom
and
and
in
some
cases,
micro
units.
So
I
think
that's
that's
too
top
heavy
in
the
small
units.
B
I
think
and
I'll
just
give
you
an
example,
a
new
project
that
I
visited
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
140
units
and
they
have
they're
pretty
heavy
on
the
studios
and
one
bedrooms
over
100
of
the
units
were
studio
in
one
bedroom
and
I
wanted
to
find
out
how
they
were
doing
it
on
on
their
absorption
and
we
went
through
a
one
bedroom
apartment
and
then
I
said
well,
can
I
see
a
two-bedroom
price?
B
Well,
we've
rented,
all
those
I
said,
oh,
but
they
had
a
number
of
one
bedroom
and
studios
left,
but
they're
high
priced
they're,
1800
bucks
for
a
one
bedroom
and
that
doesn't
include
media
package,
but
I
think
the
tuber,
and
so
I
asked
him.
I
said
other
two-bedroom
described
the
tenant
and
he
he
just
hummed
and
hot,
and
I
said
well:
is
it
a
roommate
situation
for
a
lot
of
those
and
that's
how
they
can
afford?
B
Eighteen
hundred,
you
know
or
two
thousand
dollars
twenty
four
hundred
dollars
for
that
unit,
and
he
said
well,
maybe
he
wasn't.
He
wasn't
very
forthcoming,
but
you
know
there's
a
roommate
situation,
but
there's
also,
I
think,
those
professionals,
two
income
professionals
that
would
love
to
have
and
they
they
might
have
a
third.
You
know
a
child
and
would
love
to
live
downtown,
take
advantage
of
of
the
amenities
and
the
locations.
B
So
I
don't
think-
and
I
agree
with
you,
but
if
you
look
at
the
and
there's
other
incentives
too,
on
the
builder
side,
I
mean
that's
where
the
money
is,
you
know
they
make
more
money
on
the
margins
are
better
on
the
small
units
and
so
there's
an
incentive
to
do
that.
I'm
sure
the
builders
would
say
you
know.
Well,
we
start
doing
a
lot
of
two
bedrooms
and
you
know
these
prices
are
going
to
be
sky
high,
but
it
is
a
the
unit
mix
is
a
concern.
C
I
think
we
have
time
for
one
last
question
or
a
wrap-up.
Anybody
want
to
pipe
in
with
a
question.
E
I
I
have
a
a
quick
question
that
permit
is
fantastic
where
you
break
it
down
by
geography,
if
you
could
get
it
by
unit
type,
I
think
that'd
be
really
really
helpful.
Information
that'd
be
really
nice
to
just
have
that
information
in
terms
of
what's
in
the
pipeline
by
unit
mix
the
other
question
on
the
lytic
projects,
I'm
wondering
whether
some
of
why
we're
seeing
these
very
small
sizes
is
almost
kind
of
an
artificial
way
of
creating
affordability
by
if
you're,
you
know
a
very
small
unit.
Of
course,
it
rents
for
less.
E
It
accommodates
one
person
but
they're
being
compared
to
the
same
ami
threshold.
That's
my
concern
is
it's
not
really
adjusted
for
how
many
people
we
think
are
going
to
live
in
this,
whereas
a
family-
and
I
don't
know
whether
there's
a
conversation
with
utah
housing
corp,
who
I
think
utah
housing
corp,
allocates
our
litec
and
maybe
that's
a
conversation
with
them
and
whether
they're
looking
at
this.
B
Yeah
well
well,
the
point
well
taken
on
the
first
part
of
that
it
would
be
really
difficult
to
get.
I
mean,
be
it
labor
intensive
to
get
the
unit
mix
of
projects
under
construction.
You
have
to
go
to
you
know
you
have
to
go
to
the
planning
offices
or
the
developers
for
each
project
to
get
it.
So
I
mean
that
the
data
are
there,
but
again
you
call
a
developer.
B
Who's
got
a
project
and-
and
it's
gonna
be
two
or
three
or
four
phone
calls,
and
then
you
might
get
called
back
and
so
the
data
there,
but
I
think
what
developers
look
at
is
is
what
I
referenced
earlier
was
the
the
census
data
and
they
say
you
know.
This
is
where
this
is
the
prime
group
on
the
tax
credit
projects.
B
It's
a
simple
policy
decision
for
most
of
the
projects
in
salt
lake
city
now
are
what
what
are
referred
to
as
four
percent
projects.
They
go
through
the
private
activity
bond
authority
and
they
have
a
board
and
utah
housing
corporation
oversees.
That
and
dave
is
on
that
board.
I
think
christina
oliver
is
the
chair
of
that
board,
but
they
could
easily
say
and
they've
done
this
on
providing
incentives
to
get
lower
priced
units.
It's
just
a
policy
decision,
we
say
well,
we
want
to
see
we're
worried
about
the
unit
mix.
B
We
want
to
see
some
percentage.
A
third
of
the
units
in
the
urban
area,
a
third
or
forty
percent-
should
be,
should
be
two
bedroom.
If
you
look
at
salt
lake
county,
the
entire
county,
you're
gonna,
have
of
the
existing
stock.
C
B
I
appreciate
that
I
I
do
have
a
request
from
allison
roland
on
those
questions
that
were
asked
on
that.
What
percent
of
the
tax
credit
units
in
salt
lake
county
are
in
salt
lake
city
and
also
the
household
size?
And
I
I
promise
her
to
get
some
information,
so
I
just
haven't
done
that
yet.
C
C
G
Yes,
there
are
a
couple
call
and
users
call
in
user
four.
Is
this
andreas.
I
G
C
Welcome
andreas
report
of
the
director.
G
C
G
You
email
aubry:
okay,.
C
Please
email
aubry
by
tomorrow
your
comfort
level
of
meeting
in
person
for
in
the
next
meeting,
which
would
be
in
two
weeks.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you
and
then
nick
has
a
couple
of
council
items
to
discuss
with
the
planning
commission.
A
C
J
A
So
we
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
some
of
the
decisions
that
the
council
has
made
recently,
and
I
can't
remember
if
we
did
this
with
the
last
meeting,
but
they,
the
council,
has
approved
a
couple
of
zoning
amendments
that
came
before
the
planning
commission
in
2021.
A
A
A
That
has
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
the
22nd
of
this
month
and
they
may
make
a
decision
after
that
public
hearing
or
they
may
not
so
we'll
see
what
they
what
they
say.
One
of
the
things
that
that
was
discussed
was
if
there
is
a
way
that
they
could
adopt
a
second
ordinance
at
the
same
time
that
would
essentially-
and
this
this
is
getting
one
of
the
concerns
the
planning
commission
had.
A
That
would
essentially
automatically
put
those
uses
back
in
the
land
use
tables
if
something
hasn't
been
adopted
within,
say
six
months
or
something
like
that,
and
we
did
tell
them
that
we
thought
that
was
in
their
their
purview
of
that
application
and
process
to
do
that.
And
so
that's
something
that
they're
going
to
consider.
A
They
did
talk
a
lot
about
the
next
steps
with
that,
just
just
like
the
the
planning
commission,
you
know
we
we
discussed
back
in
january
and
what
that
looks
like
and
what
that
means.
But
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
that,
we
have
a
couple
of
internal
meetings
set
up
where
the
point
of
those
meetings
really
is
to
understand
for
us
and
planning,
because
we're
somewhat
removed
from
the
services
that
are
provided
to
to
our
residents
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
into
the
homeless
resource
centers.
A
We
plan
on
doing
a
similar
conversation
with
the
service
providers
and
with
the
people
who
who
either
live
or
own
property
or
work
nearby,
those
resource
centers,
so
that
we
can
get
a
full
understanding
and
then
we'll
start
drafting
that
we
do
hope
that
we
are
back
to
the
planning
commission
in
june
with
that
proposal.
So
hopefully
it's
not
too
far
down
the
road.
A
Thing
that
they
asked
for
was
a
briefing
on
adus
that
stemmed
from
your
action
to
initiate
a
petition
to
make
edu's
permitted,
uses
and
update
those
regulations,
and
first
they.
You
know
the
city
council
is
definitely
supportive
of
that
process
that
you
initiated.
So
we
think
that
was
that
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
on
what
they
would
like
to
see
what
we
anticipate
as
far
as
you
know,
concerns
that
are
raised.
What
kind
of
engagement
and
the
length
of
that
engagement.
A
I
think
everyone's
in
the
same
opinion
that
we
don't
really
want
to
drag
something
out,
and
you
know
those
the
the
goal
is
to
make
changes
to
the
code,
not
eliminate
adus
from
the
code,
so
we'll
be
working
on
that
we'll
have
a
you
know:
chairberry
we're
gonna,
be
sending
you
like
an
official
thing
to
sign
to
recognize
that
and
we'll
keep
the
planning
commission
briefed
as
that
that
progresses,
including
once
we
have
a
draft.
A
C
Any
questions
for
nick
okay,
thank
you
nick.
I
appreciate
that
update
all
right.
Let's
move
on
to
our
public
hearing
agenda
portion
of
the
the
public
hearing
portion
of
our
agenda.
This
is
not
voting
well
that
I
already
have
lost
my
english
language,
but
we'll
do
our
best.
The
first
step
is
the
france
adu
conditional
use
at
approximately
299
east
oak
forest
road.
This
will
be
case
number
pln
pcm
2021-01180.
K
K
K
K
The
parking
is
provided
just
south
of
the
building
on
that
part
large
parking
pad
there.
So
there's
plenty
of
parking.
The
walk-up
entrance
to
the
adu
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
facing
and
enters
onto
the
interior
of
the
lot.
K
K
There's
those
cross
sections
you
can
see
that
the
basement
is
completely
submerged,
so
it's
basically
a
two
story
structure
above
grand
and
the
adu
is
separated
from
the
rest
of
the
space.
This
is
the
undeveloped
site.
K
The
first
image
is
about
where
the
adu
will
be
roughly,
and
so
you
can
see
that
it's
not
really
visible
from
the
nearest
house.
This
is
the
next
picture
is
the
view
from
the
street,
and
this
is
a
private
road.
It's
in
a
gated
community,
so
there's
not
really
going
to
be
a
lot
of
public
there's
no
public
access
to
this
area
and
so
based
on
the
analysis
that
we've
done
and
we're
recommend
recommending
approval
because
they
meet
all
the
a
lot
of
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
code.
I
Yeah
this
is
amy
burroughs.
I
have
a
question
yeah
the
the
size
of
the
building.
How
does
it,
how
does
the
adu
compare
in.
K
It's
so
the
adu
is
520
square
feet
and
the
main
house
is
well
above
that
I
think
it's
about
19
of
the
main
house.
I
That
we've
talked
about,
we
talked
about
another
unit
like
that,
where
the
ex
the
accessory
building
was
larger
but
part,
but
part
of
that
size
wasn't
included
in
the
adu,
but
it
still
affects
the
mass
of
the
building.
So
I
wonder
how.
I
If
you
only
have
to
count
the
living
space
that
might
be
rented
out
or
is
accessible
by
the
separate
entrance
in
the
size
of
the
adu
compared
to
the
home,
because
it's
a
it's
a
larger
building
than
it
would
have
been
right,
because
it
has
another
whole
floor
to
it.
So
it's
kind
of
like
twice
as
big
as
522
square
feet.
I
Well,
so
it's
a
thousand
square
feet,
so
how
big
is
the
main
building
going
to
be?
Let's
see.
M
L
I
L
I
K
I
L
So
maybe
that's
covered
by
like
the
lot.
C
F
C
You
after
I
just
wanted.
I
don't
want
to
mix
the
two,
so
if
you
just
want
to
hang
on
and
if
katie
lynn
feels
like
this
is
a
better
question
for
an
applicant,
you
should
always
feel
free
to.
Let
us
know
that
as
well.
K
Yeah,
I
will
there
is
a
maximum
limit
of
the
size
of
a
the
footprint
of
an
accessory
building
is
720
square
feet
so,
regardless
of
the
size
of
the
house
with
the
size
of
the
lot,
a
an
accessory
building
cannot
exceed
720
square
feet,
and
so
this
one
is
within
that
so
yeah.
So
this
is
within
that.
C
Yep
thanks
amy.
Okay,
next
time
is
the
african.
It
was
nick
hammer
and
you
you
can
take
your
time
to
make
a
presentation
and
make
any
statements
you
wish
and
then
I'll
have
open
it
up
to
commissioners
if
they
have
any
questions
for
you,
but
go
ahead.
Mr
hammer.
M
Excellent
well-
and
I
want
to
keep
this
short
again.
This
is
just
in
north
cove
estates
up
behind
the
capitol.
All
of
those
are
single
family
homes.
Most
of
them
are
well
over
10
000
square
feet.
The
main
house
that
we're
suggesting
is
around
6200
square
feet
and
again
the
accessory
structure
is,
is
quite
a
bit
smaller
than
that
with
just
what
essentially
equates
to
a
a
live-in
nanny,
suite
kind
of
above
the
above
the
storage
on
the
main
and
the
the
house.
M
Just
due
to
the
difficulty
of
the
site,
you
can
kind
of
see
it
back
on
katie
lynn's
report
that
the
the
house
is
in
the
bottom
or
the
southwest
corner
of
that
two
acre
lot
simply
due
to
the
topography
it's
extreme
and
part
of
that,
our
process
in
getting
the
home
approved
was
approving
these
retaining
walls
at
the
back
of
the
of
the
backyard.
M
Those
all
went
through
a
special
exception
permit
and
have
been
approved
as
designed
so
again,
the
the
cottage
itself
just
due
to
the
topography
and
the
way
that
it
currently
cuts
through
the
site.
Very
little
of
it
I
mean
it's
less
than
the
top
half
will
will
be
above,
where
the
existing
topography
is
so.
M
Its
impact
around
the
the
neighborhood
and
other
homes
in
the
area
will
be
very
minimal.
M
As
far
as
we
can
tell
we,
we
intend
to
keep
all,
of
course,
all
the
scrub
oak
that
we
can
all
around
the
backside
I
mean
most
of
this
is
this:
is
a
retention
basin
owned
by
salt
lake
county
there's
a
smaller
one
up
above
the
the
home
itself,
and
this
is
a
dirt
trail
that
kind
of
leads
up
to
that
top
one
and
again
tons
of
scrub
oak
that
we
will
be
keeping
as
much
as
we
can
that
that
isn't
affected
by
the
driveway
and
the
main
home
and
the
the
actual
cottage
on
top.
M
The
living
quarters
are
laid
out
in
a
studio
apartment
style
with
a
bathroom
and
a
kitchenette
and
a
small
laundry
above
the
stairs
that
lead
up
almost
like
a
walk-up
and
then
on
the
main
level.
It's
just
a
storage
for
lawn
furniture
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
then
in
the
basement
there
is
a
mechanical
for
the
actual
cottage
unit.
C
Thank
you,
mr
hammer.
Does
any
any
questions
from
commissioners.
D
M
It
was
previously,
but
we
were
made
aware
of
the
fact
that
that
that
would
put
us
over
any
square
footage
limitations.
We
have
an
access
store,
but
but
we
know
that
that
can't
be
a
part
of
of
how
that
cottage
functions
as
an
individual
unit.
This
is
something
that
would
be
locked
or
be
separate
and
would
only
be
able
to
be
functioning
at
storage,
but.
D
We're
talking
about
a
door
that
actually
leads
into
this
from
the
stairs
right
I
mean
there
was.
It
looks
like
there's
an
opening
there
now
and
perhaps
there
could
be
a
door
there,
but
perhaps
not
and
and
even
if
you,
if
you
put
a
lock
out
there
there-
I
mean
it's
already
labeled
as
a
living
room.
I'm
I
am.
You
know
suspicious
that
the
owner
will
turn
around
and
use
the
entire
thing
as
a
as
a
an
adu.
H
F
D
That's
the
very
least
we
remove
the
door,
but
I
think
that
we
also
would
be
better
off
to
make
a
design
that
makes
it
fairly
impossible
for
that
to
happen
for
there
to
be
any
way
that
they
can
do
that.
In
other
words,
that
would
move
the
stairs
such
that
they
do
not
there's
no
there's
a
landing
that
would
open
on
to
the
living
room.
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
M
C
I
G
C
I
C
D
Yes,
I
would
like
to
amend
that
to
state
that
they,
the
door
between
the
two
spaces
of
the
ground
floor
and
the
upper
floor,
be
eliminated
in
the
plans
that
that
be
sealed
off,
so
that
the
the
living
room
cannot
be.
As
as
noted
on
the
plans.
That's
called
living
room
cannot
be
accessed
from
the
upper
unit.
C
C
C
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
for
mike
a
second
for
maureen
and
a
friendly
amendment
accepted
that
includes
the
condition
to
separate
physically
separate
those
two
spaces
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
on
this
marine.
N
C
I
I
C
C
And
brenda
yes,
okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
tonight,
mr
hammer
and
katie.
I
C
Got
what
you
needed
moving
on,
I
want
to
say
I
forgot
to
do
a
motion
for
to
approve
the
minutes.
So
let's
take
a
moment
to
do
that.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
last
meeting
minutes.
J
C
Brenda
yes
maureen,
yes,
andreas.
C
A
C
C
G
Just
an
anticipation
of
grammar
requests
and
for
a
clear
record
for
the
city
council's
briefing
fair
enough.
Thank
you.
C
C
The
planner
tonight
is
nan
and
it's
all
yours
nan.
Thank
you,
chair.
L
So
salt
lake
cities
we've
received
a
request
for
a
plan
development
from
ralph
nagasawa
with
mjsa
architects,
who's
representing
the
property
owner.
The
planned
development
request
would
allow
12
additional
dwelling
units
on
the
site
within
three
new
structures.
The
requested
modification
through
the
plan
development
is
to
allow
buildings
on
the
site
without
street
frontage.
L
The
subject
site
is
located
on
two
existing
parcels
at
226
and
230
west
300
north
and
is
within
the
capitol
hill,
local
historic
district.
During
staff's
review,
it
was
found
that
the
proposed
marmalade
condos
plan
development
request
meets
the
applicable
standards
of
review
and
we
are
therefore
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
request.
L
The
proposed
building
height
matches
the
existing
historic
building.
That's
currently
on
the
site.
The
project
also
meets
the
building
coverage
allowances.
The
allowed
is
60
percent
of
building
coverage
and
the
proposed
marmalade
condos
project's
building
coverage
is
approximately
37
and
the
plan
development
objective
that
the
project
is
meeting
is
historic
preservation
through
preservation
of
historically
significant
landscapes
that
contribute
to
the
local
historic
character
of
the
city.
L
The
townhouse
structure
is
proposed
to
be
an
eight
plex
row
house.
That's
proposed
to
be
three
stories.
The
first
floor
of
the
townhouse
structure
will
have
a
two
car
garage
that
faces
the
access
drive
to
the
east
of
the
structure
and
includes
an
audio
awning
patio
that
faces
the
west.
A
single
car
garage
door
will
also
will
allow
for
a
studio
type
area
that
faces
the
west,
which
fronts
along
a
commercial
parking
area.
L
L
The
two
duplex
structures
will
have
the
same
exterior
elements
as
a
townhouse
structure.
Brick
detailing
will
cover
all
four
facades.
A
two-car
garage
door
will
face
the
access
drive
to
the
west
of
the
duplexes,
and
it
will
have
balconies
that
project
four
feet
from
the
facades
of
the
building.
L
So
the
building
elements
that
are
proposed
on
the
new,
the
three
new
structures
will
be
similar
to
the
contributing
fourplex
on
the
site,
which
is
the
building.
On
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
screen,
brick
detailing
and
still
stone
belt
courses,
are
present
on
the
1910,
victorian
style
structure,
and
it
will
be
similar
to
the
proposed
detailing
on
the
new
structures.
L
L
So
last
month,
on
february
3rd,
the
historic
landmark
commission
approved
a
new
construction
application
for
the
marmalade
condos
development
as
part
of
the
new
construction
approval.
The
landmark
commission
approved
modifications
to
the
lock
and
bulk
standards
of
the
rmf
35
zoning
district
on
the
site.
These
modification
includes
interior
side,
yard
setbacks,
the
standard
is
10
feet
and
they
approved
a
6
foot,
interior
side
yard
setback
on
the
townhouse
and
a
five
foot
on
a
duplex,
the
rear
yard.
Setbacks
were
also
modified,
modified.
L
Excuse
me,
the
townhouse
has
a
required
rare
yard,
setback
of
25
feet
and
the
historic
landmark
commission
approved
a
nine
foot
setback
on
the
townhouse
and
a
12
foot
step
back
on
a
duplex
and
finally,
they
also
approved
a
lot
width
modification.
C
Hey,
thank
you
nan.
I
just
want
to
make
clear
for
everyone
and
you
can
confirm
or
deny
what
I
say
that
we
do
not
have
the
purview
to
override
or
reverse
any
decision
by
the
hlc.
So
those
modifications
to
lot
with
and
setbacks
are
not
open
for
our
review
or
you
know
changing
them.
Correct,
correct.
C
So
any
questions
for
neon
commissioners.
F
C
F
Okay,
great
thanks.
Thank
you,
council
members
for
meeting
tonight
with
us.
I
am
ralph
agassella
principal
in
charge
on
this
project.
This
is
kennying
he's
the
design
principal
we
have
jackson
jones
with
us
he's
the
developer
with
him
as
chase
dixon
he's
on
the
development
team.
Then
we
have
julianne
hanson
on
the
end
she's
from
our
office
she's
driving
the
show
here.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
she
did
a
great
job
of
introducing
everything
and
about
this
funky,
but
we
are.
I
just
wanted
to
just
get
into
saying
you
know.
We
really
think
this
is
a
wonderful
project
for
these.
This
infill
of
these,
these
sciences
abandoned
some
midi
and
from
that
I
think,
king,
it
will
and
get
through
he'll
talk
about
the
design.
P
Stages,
so
basically
we
are
in
a
local
historical
district,
and
the
project
is
also
recognized
on
the
national
I
mean
the
district
is
also
recognized
on
the
national
level.
The
second
thing
is,
we
fall
within
the
capitol
hill
master
plan
district
and,
as
far
as
we're
concerned,
we
have
followed
the
guidelines
of
all
of
those.
The
the
inspiration
for
this
project
is
really
that
the
quaint
english
row
houses
that
you
see
before
you,
then
our
objective,
let's
go
to
the
next.
P
If
you
will
that
that
took
us
into
the
project,
as
you
can
see
on
the
left
right
there,
then
let's
go
to
that
site
plan
the
next
one,
the
other
one
where
we
talked
about
and
the
what
you
see
in
yellow,
that
is
the
pedestrian
traffic
that
takes
you
from
the
street
front
into
the
project
and
the
red
dots
really
indicates
where
the
driveway
or
alleyway.
P
If
you
will
that
takes
you
into
the
project,
let's
go
back
to
the
next
front,
the
next
rendering,
as
you
can
see
from
the
rendering
we
are
trying
to
be
as
consistent
as
we
possibly
can
and
drew
inspiration
from
that
existing
historical
building
to
the
left.
On
that
second
picture,
and
and
then
from
that
we
are
kind
of
ticking
the
building
and
adding
some
interest
and
some
whimsical
elements
to
it.
P
And
basically
that's
what
you
have
and
that
picture
top
picture
in
the
left
is
what
you
would,
what
that's
what
you
would
see
as
you
drive
into
the
project
and
come
back
out
a
little
bit
and
let's
go
to
the
next
shot,
which
is
that
bottom
left-
and
this
is
this-
is
what
you
would
see
as
you
approach
to
the
center
of
the
project,
and
you
see
the
two
simple
row
house
building
on
it.
Let's
back
up
for
a
second
and
from
that
top
left
shot
top
right,
I
mean
so.
P
This
is
the
pedestrian
entrance
to
the
unit
and
what
we
have
is
we
have
these
overhead
doors
instead
of
they're,
not
garage
doors
but
the
overhead
doors.
The
idea
is
that
when
you
open
them,
you're
connected
with
the
community-
that
are
your
neighbors
in
this
case,
and
the
goal
is
to
have
a
very
somewhat
robust
english
garden
type
planting
around
it,
and
that,
basically,
is
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
there,
and
because
of
that
trying
to
preserve
the
two
buildings
in
the
front,
trying
to
preserve
the
historical
nature
of
it.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Any
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time.
C
No
okay,
if
you
would
all
hold
tight,
I
will
open
the
public
comment
period
and,
if
anything
is
raised
during
that
I'll
bring
it
back
to
you
that
give
you
a
chance
to
address
it
all
right.
I
will
open
the
public
comment
period
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
this
item,
please
raise
your
hand
in
the
lower
right
hand,
portion
of
your
screen
and
oh
no.
I
can,
I
see
one
hand
raise.
Oh,
I
see
a
few
henries
when
you're
called
on
to
speak.
C
If
you
would
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
you
will
have
two
minutes
to
give
your
comments.
This
is
not
a
back
and
forth
q
a
so.
If
you
have
questions
feel
free
to
ask
them,
I
will
write
them
down,
but
we
won't
stop
your
two
minutes
in
order
to
get
them
answered.
We'll
do
that
after
I
close
the
public
comment
period,
but
during
your
two
minutes
you
can
make
any
comments
you
wish
kelsey.
If
you
want
to.
G
Yeah
I'll
jump
into
it.
Thank
you,
chairberry
all
right.
The
first
speaker
is
david,
see
your
hand
up
you,
okay,
I'm
trying
to
unmute
you
just
one
moment:
okay,
there
you
go
you're
unmuted.
M
I
I
I
You
know
modern,
look
which
I
don't
think
is
great
for
the
neighborhood,
but
the
fact
that
these
that
they
are
doing
a
historical
kind
of
you
know
brick.
It
just
makes
me
really
excited
for
it.
So
I
just
want
to
share
that.
I'm
excited
about
it.
I'm
excited
to
potentially
look
at
it,
so
yeah
just
really.
E
Yeah,
hello,
jen,
colby
district
4..
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
of
comments.
I
really
appreciate
that
they're,
preserving
the
the
historic
houses
in
the
front.
We
need
much
more
of
that.
We
need
to
preserve
every
naturally
occurring,
affordable
house
in
the
city
at
all
costs.
I'm
a
little
concerned,
and
I
guess
I
would
also
say
this
is
the
kind
of
project
we
would
have
hoped
for
on
bueno,
but
that
is
water
under
the
bridge
and
we'll
talk
about
that
later.
E
But
in
terms
of
the
detailing,
I
appreciate
the
picture
of
those
cottages.
I
first
said
like:
oh
that's
going
to
be
such
an
awesome,
historic
infill,
but
then
I
look
at
the
actual
drawings
and
I
disagree
a
little
bit
with
the
previous
caller.
This
is
just
another
generic
box
building
with
very
little
detailing.
Like
those
inspirational
english
cottages,
I
look
at
youtube
videos
of
new
developments
in
the
netherlands.
I
look
at
my
hometown.
E
There
are
details
that
can
be
added
to
this
building.
That
would
make
it
much
more
compatible
and
I
just
do
not
understand
why
all
we're
getting
in
salt
lake
is
the
same.
E
Look
that
really
doesn't
fit
and
isn't
compatible
infill.
In
my
opinion,
we
have
some
examples
of
really
good
infill,
but
I
would
just
ask
that
they
consider
adding
the
kind
of
detailing
to
the
exterior
of
the
building
that
actually
fits.
The
neighborhood,
also
cars
destroy
cities,
but
there
are
cars
everywhere
and
I'm
sad
that
we
have
to
have
ground
level
garages,
but
until
the
city
actually
is
not
car
centric,
which
is
a
long
long
way
away.
Unfortunately,
we
have
to
put
up
with
that.
So
that's
my
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
M
Hi
yeah,
I'm
directly
behind
on
ardmore
place
of
the
aplex
that
they're
facing
and
I
think
in
the
land,
historic,
landmark,
commission
meeting.
You
know
the
plan
changed
so
whatever
I
was
commenting
on
on
that
meeting.
The
whole
plan
got
swapped
around,
but
basically
my
concern
is
yeah
like
like
the
previous
owner.
You
know
the
yeah,
it's
just
a
block
building
and
if
you
put
some
wood
siding,
it
almost
looks
like
a
1970
station
wagon.
M
But
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
it's
my
concern,
is
they
have
the
zoning
variants
changed?
You
know,
I
understand
the
need
for
high
density
housing
in
salt
lake
city,
but
they
moved
the
zoning
from
the
25
feet
to
10
feet
with
the
four
feet
balcony
overhang
and
that
setback
you
know,
approaches
the
property
line.
M
But
if
you
look
at
the
map
that
they're
presenting
with
the
turnout
there's
a
lot
of
space
to
the
left
of
it
and
in
the
historic
meeting
they
said,
there's
like
38
feet
between
building
to
building,
but
that's
six
feet
on
their
side
and
the
rest
is
the
green
space.
That's
our
backyard
and
all
of
our
more
places.
M
I
think
one
story
to
the
north
end
of
that
whole
development.
So
it's
literally
30
feet,
three-story
high
buildings,
you
know
taking
out
the
green
space
and
it's
not
looking
very
environmental
friendly
and
then
I
think
the
commissioners
last
time
they
suggested
how
about
if
we
move
to
a
15
foot
setback
and
just
slide
the
building
to
the
left.
But
nobody
addressed
that
and
I
was
kind
of
cut
off
and
couldn't
that
because
there,
if
you
look
at
the
thing,
there's
a
lot
of
trees.
C
M
Yeah
and
the
last
thing
it's
the
fire
access
on
that
and
there's
no
access
to
the
fire
on
that
north
side.
C
R
G
All
right,
lizzy
carol,
you
are
unmuted.
J
Oh,
can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
so
my
name
is
lizzy
carroll
and
I
am
a
resident
of
230
west
300
north
apartment
upstairs,
and
my
main
concern
is
that
pretty
much
our
backyard
is
going
to
go
away
and
also
concern
over
communication.
J
Home
river
group
is
the
property
management
group
and
they
did
not
tell
us
anything
about.
This
was
going
to
happen.
We
found
out
when
we
saw
the
sign
in
our
front
yard.
Another
concern
is
we
have
property
in
the
garage
right,
the
detached
garage,
that's
on
the
property.
We
want
to
know
how
the
communication
is
going
to
be
for
us
to
move
stuff
out
of
there
before
it
gets
destroyed.
J
Also
we're
concerned
about
green
space
and
on
this
map
or
the
the
drawing
on
the
on
the
screen,
it
doesn't
look
like
there's
going
to
be
much
trees
or
much
green
right.
Now
we
have
a
garden
and
lots
of
planter
boxes.
We
also
have
a
composter.
J
We
have
an
outdoor
table
set,
and
so
my
concerns
are,
will
there
be
space
and
how
much
space
will
there
be
for
for
things
like
that?
We
also
we
have
a
dog
and
he
he
likes
the
backyard
we
like
to
be
able
to
play
with
them,
and
that
and
another
question
is
what
would
the
access
be
like
to
those
small
little
green
patches?
J
I
see
on
the
screen,
I
think
one
of
my
other
concerns
also
during
construction,
where,
where
are
we
going
to
park
because
right
now,
there's
about
parking
in
the
back
for
at
least
six,
sometimes
seven
cars
if
people
double
park
also.
C
I
Barry,
yes,
can
I
ask
if
we
can
get
a
clarification
of
the
speaker's
relationship
to
this
property
if
she's
a
renter
or
an
adjacent
shell.
C
G
C
Question
in
the
four
plex
kelsey
looks.
G
I
C
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
hands
that
haven't
spoken.
G
Chair
barry,
I
do
want
to
just
check
with
melinda.
She
has
a
check
mark,
I
believe
she's
here
for
another
item,
but
let
me
just
check
thank
you,
melinda
maine,
you're
unmuted.
Would
you
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
You
know.
I
I'm
sorry
I
this
I'm
new
to
this
a
little
bit,
but
it
was
more
of
a
question
whether
these
will
be
rentals
or
home
home
ownership.
Okay,
and
maybe
you
can't.
C
G
C
You
do
that
by
checking
your
hand
again,
and
then
you
can
lower
that.
Okay
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
comment
period
and
bring
it
back
to
the
applicant
to
address
some
of
those
things
that
have
come
up.
I
will
would
say
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
to
increase
your
communication
with
your
existing
tenants
in
those
two
historical
buildings.
C
P
C
P
P
What
we
try
to
create
is
what
we
call
offset
balance
and
basically
there's
a
center
axis
that
went
down
this
particular
edge
and
then
it
can
we
kind
of
create
that
somewhat
whimsical
look
and
feel
to
it
to
this
front
and
once
again
this
is
the
overhead
door
that
can
be
opened,
that
can
that
allows
the
user
or
the
tenant
or
the
owner
to
have
a
strong
connection
with
the
community
around
them
forever,
and
these
are
the
balconies
that
that
we
have
introduced
here
that
allows
for
greater
sense
of
depth
that
is
created
in
this
building,
and
sometimes
the
a
lot
of
this
is
really
in
the
details
in
the
way
that
the
the
break
element
is
kind
of
added
onto
these
things.
C
P
And
ralph
you
may
answer
this
better
than
I
can
because
there's
all
these
screen
spaces
and
then
how
it's
used
for
the
community.
F
Yeah
I
mean
we
were
actually
directed
initially
in
our
first
zoning.
Let's
see
application,
we
were
suggested
to
increase.
You
know
resident
for
the
first
green
sakes
for
the
residences,
and
so
we've
provided
some
great
space,
we'll
have
some
open,
trellises
and
share.
You
know
shared
gathering
spaces
for
the
residences
of
the
space,
so
we
feel
we
have
areas.
You
know
we
have
some
private
areas.
We
have
some
public
public
for
all
the
residences
to
gather
all
you
know.
One
of
the
comments
was
about
parking
from
tony
belton.
F
All
the
parking
is
contained
on
site.
The
we
talked
about
the
the
single
family,
residence
on
the
bottom
that
will
be
cut
off.
That
will
be
remained
as
a
single
family
residence
that
puts
that
phone
assaultion
we
have.
Currently,
we
have
every
townhome
has
a
two-car
garage
which
is
all
self-contained
within
them
for
the
apartment,
the
four
plus
departments
we
have
five
parking
stalls,
and
then
we
actually
have
two
extra.
So
all
the
parkings
contained
on
on
site
and
talk
about
my
food.
F
Yeah,
so
I
mean
what
we'll
do
in
the
end
is
so
right
now
there's
this.
This
is
two
parcels.
We
are
planning
to
combine
the
two
parcels
and
actually
then
do
a
lot
line
adjustment
to
take
out
that
single
family
residence
on
on.
Second,
that's
that
third
month
now.
P
And
so
basically,
we
do
have
16
units
on
the
one
line
and
one
unit
under
the
retail
line.
P
Let's
see
one
other
question
and
the
other
question
was
whether
would
the
people,
rent
renters
or
the
values.
H
C
Okay
and
then,
and
then
that
just
finalizes
your
landscaping
around
your
buffer
around
the
setbacks,
I
mean
you
can't
really
tell
from
that
graphic.
If
you
have
any
yeah.
F
We'll
have
the
full
we'll
have
full
exterior
perimeter
lens
perimeter
landscaping,
you
know
what
once
again
I
mean
this
is
all
I
don't
want
to
say
preliminary,
but
it
is
relatively
pulmonary
drawings.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
you
know
zoning
ordinances
not
to
comply
with,
so
we
will
fully
comply
with
all
the
the
zoning
ordinances
and
things
for
landscaping
requirements,
but
we
replied
on
you
know,
fully
landscaping
the
site.
Okay,
one
of
the
other
earlier
comments
were
more
about
a
drawings,
change
and
drawings.
C
A
A
C
Wonderful:
okay,
without
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
to
the
commissioners,
bring
it
back
to
us
for
a
discussion.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time,.
D
One
of
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
speakers
in
the
public
hearing
talked
about,
especially
because
they're
back
on
the
street
that
that
their
yard
backs
up
to
the
north.
D
These
buildings
were
are
basically
as
far
north
as
they
could
possibly
be
and
why
they
weren't
moved
a
little
more
south.
So
that
the
I
know
that
we're
not
talking
about
the
setbacks.
C
Yeah,
that's
actually
totally
out
of
our
scope
tonight.
Brenda
we
act.
We
cannot
override
the
hlc's
decision.
So
if
we
spend
time
talking
about
it
it
doesn't.
We
can't
do
anything
about
it.
That
was
that
was
their
choice
and
we
inherit
what
they
decided.
So
we
I
don't.
I
don't
really
want
to
spend
a
ton
of
time
talking
about
just
because
we
have
a
huge
agenda
and
we
can't
do
anything
about
it.
C
So
that
was
a
discussion.
I
think
that
was
better
meant
for
the
hlc
and
then
they
decided
whatever
they
decided
so
moving
on
to
some
to
the
things
we
can't
do
something
about
is
the
plan
to
you
plan
development
based
on
those
standards.
Are
there
any
further
questions
related
to
that
from
commissioners?.
I
L
L
Yes,
nothing
can
happen
on
the
site
until
that
subdivision
plan
is
approved
right
now.
It's
two
separate
lots
and
they
wouldn't
just
be
able
to
consolidate,
because
you
know
going
through
this
plan
development
process.
L
The
proposal
they
would
have
any
changes
to
the
site
would
need
to
meet
the
plan
development,
the
middle-
and
that
includes
the
property
line
where
it's
proposed
on
the
site
plan
for
the
plan
development.
If
that's
clear.
E
Yeah
very
small
thing-
and
I
realize
this
might
be
far
down
the
line,
but
the
green
space.
Is
this
going
to
be
green
grass,
or
is
this
going
to
be
xeriscaped
nice?
You
know,
drought,
resistant
plants
that
we
like.
C
J
E
Is
a
little
weird?
Okay,
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
I
moved
the
planning
commission
approved.
C
F
C
I
C
N
C
And
amy,
yes:
okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously:
okay,
everybody:
it
is
seven
o'clock
and
let's
take
a
five
minute
break
because
we
have
a
big
item.
I
want
to
apologize
for
everyone
for
the
further
delay,
but
I
think
this
next
one
will
be
a
little
bit
lengthy.
So,
let's
reconvene
at
6
58..
Thank
you.
I
I
C
S
S
This
this
is
a
two
requests
plan
development
and
a
conditional
use.
S
The
location
of
this
project.
This
site
is
between
700,
east
and
800,
east
and
100,
south
and
200
south.
The
zoning
is
imf
45.
The
city
council
approved
a
zoning
change.
S
You
renting
700,
east
and
behind
there
would
be
a
four-story
rooming
house
with
65
units
ranging
from
one
to
four
bedroom
units,
and
it
would
consist
of
a
192
bedrooms
from
all
the
units
and
the
occupancy
for
this
project
would
also
be
192.
S
So
the
existing
conditions
is
that
this
is
actually
10
parcels,
with
a
multi-family
building
in
the
front
facing
700
east
and
with
six
units
and
with
associated
garages
and
storage
facilities
behind
this
building
and
two
vacant
parcels
and
seven
single
family
homes.
S
There
is
an
order
of
approval.
The
plan
development
must
be
approved
first
because
without
the
plan
development
approval,
the
condition
used
cannot
be
approved.
The
plan
development
meets
according
to
planning
stuff.
It
meets
three
objectives:
housing
providing
housing
types
that
are
not
commonly
found
in
the
existing
neighborhood
mobility
by
enhancing
accessibility
and
mobility
and
master
plan
implementation.
S
S
As
far
as
the
conditioning
use
again,
you
know
there's
an
order
for
approval
and
in
analysis,
analyzing
the
anticipated
detrimental
facts
of
a
proposed
use.
The
planning
commission
shall
determine
compliance
of
the
following
standards
that
I'm
gonna
go
over.
There
are
14
standards
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
S
The
first
is
the
zoning
ordinance
specifically
authorizes
a
rooming
house
as
a
condition
used
in
the
rmf
45,
as
mentioned
before,
the
use
is
consistent
with
applicable
policies
from
plant
salt
lake,
growing
salt
lake
city
housing
plan
and
the
central
city
master
plan
that
calls
for
increased
housing
options.
S
And
the
land
use
is
compatible
with
adjacent
properties
and
on
this
autograph
here
area
photograph
you
can
see
the
len
uses.
You
know
most.
S
A
lot
of
the
len
uses
are
multi-family
multi-family
multi-family,
it's
in
you
know
some
commercial
zones
like
here
in
the
corner
in
this
corner
here
and
for
the
most
part,
this
block
is
rmf
45,
except
for
this
stretch
here
facing
200
south.
S
Standard
four:
is
the
project
takes
into
consideration
the
mass,
the
scale
style,
design
and
architectural
detailing,
so
the
budding
properties
on
this
site
is
a
single
family
home
here
on
on
the
north
on
the
south.
Is
this
multi-family
apartment
across
the
street?
Is
this
four-story
building,
and
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
building?
That
would
be
more
visible
because
it
would
be
facing
700
east,
and
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
building
which
would
be
in
this
location
here
right
it
access
the
access
points,
don't
impede
traffic
flow.
S
S
The
standard
the
site
should
access
in
circulation
for
pedestrian
circulation
for
pedestrian
and
bicycles,
and
one
of
the
conditions
that
we
recommend
is
to
make
this
act
existing
access
right
now.
This
is
the
property
just
east
of
you
know
the
the
the
site-
and
this
is
the
axis
which
now
is
called
the
bueno
avenue,
which
is
a
private
right-of-way,
and
we
we.
S
S
S
That
is
being
proposed
does
comply
with
what
the
zoning
ordinance
require
requirements
are,
and
the
next
standard
is
utility
capacity
is
sufficient
to
support
they
use
at
normal
service
levels.
S
Services
that
are
provided
and-
and
this
project
would
be
approved
with
you
know,
a
condition
that
you
know
it.
It
complies
with
those
recommendations
from
public
utilities.
S
The
use
is
appropriately
screened,
buffered
or
separated
from
adjoining
dissimilar
uses
to
mitigate
potential
use
conflicts.
So
this
this.
S
Illustration
here
just
shows
the
buffering
between
this
property
and
the
the
actual
land
uses,
except
for
the
the
buffering
between
you
know
these.
These
two,
the
the
amenities
building
and
the
single
family
home.
S
S
Our
recommendation
is
that
it
meets
the
applicable
standards
and
therefore
planning
staff
recommends.
The
planning
commission
approve
the
requests
or
plan
development
and
conditioner
use
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
10
parcels
be
consolidated
into
one
parcel
two:
they
provide
an
access
easement
for
the
adjacent
property
at
135,
south
700,
east,
and
the
third
is
that
the
development
must
maintain
unrepeated
access
for
pedestrian
and
bicycle
users
to
safely
access
800
east
from
their
development
in
the
existing
private
right-of-way.
S
One
thing
to
point
out
is
that
if
the
approval
is
given
to
the
planned
development
and
conditional
use,
the
applicant
will
then
be
able
to
submit
plans
for
building
permits,
and
the
plans
will
need
to
comply
to
all
city
department
requirements
to
make
compliance
with
department
requirements.
The
project
may
need
to
come
back
to
the
planning
commission
if,
if
needed,.
I
That
you
can
point
me
to
those
14
standards
that
we're
supposed
to
consider.
C
I'll
pipe
in
the
conditional
use
standards
are
on
page
109..
Thanks
welcome.
C
Okay,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant.
I
see
we
have
michael
augustine
here,
mr
arkstein,
do
you
need
sharing
privileges
for
a
presentation.
C
T
Okay,
great
there
we
go
great.
Thank
you
takatia
for
the
presentation.
Ours
will
be
very
brief,
since
katya
covered
pretty
much
everything
we're
presenting
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
commissioners,
for
the
time
tonight
to
present
our
application
and
project
for
conditional
use,
proposed
conditional
use
approval
and
proposed
pd
approval.
T
First
katia
did
a
great
job
in
explaining
her
conditional
use,
but
I'd
like
to
explain
a
little
bit
further.
Our
primary
driver
for
the
rooming
house,
designation
and
rmf
45
zone
is
to
be
able
to
design
four
bedroom
units,
so
four
bedroom
units
make
up
approximately
forty
five
percent
of
our
unit
mix
and
the
four
bedroom
units
were
important
because
those
bedrooms
and
those
units
having
four
per
unit
actually
drive
what
we
were
looking
to
do
here
and
provide
attainable
rents
for
the
workforce
of
salt
lake
city.
T
So
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
all
of
this.
It's
been
in
previous
presentations
and
I'll
leave
it
up
for
30
seconds
as
we
we
go,
but
we
know
there.
There
is
a
housing
crisis,
we're
not
looking
at
developing
a
typical
high-end
rent
luxury
apartment
unit,
as
we
are
doing
in
other
locations
of
downtown
salt
lake.
T
T
That
was
the
driver
of
conditional
use,
as
katya
showed
just
a
quick
brief
overview
again
to
your
left.
You'll
see
the
the
existing
condition,
bird's
eye
view
of
the
property.
On
the
right
hand,
side
is
the
project
that
we
are
proposing.
T
Moving
to
the
pd
request,
the
front
yard
is
a
in
existing
condition
with
currently
there's
a
multi-family
building
on
it.
The
width
of
the
property
is
currently
77.3
and
we
know
there's
a
requirement
front
yard
of
80.
we're
requesting
effectively
less
than
a
three
foot
variance
on
that.
It's
an
existing
condition
with
a
current
use
on
it.
So
there's
not
much.
We
can
do
about
that
property,
the
driver
actually
of
the
rear
setback
where
right
now
there's
a
existing
home.
T
That's
about
13
and
a
half
feet
from
the
property
line
our
proposed
building
is
16.9.
Feet
was
driven
by
the
salt
lake
city,
fire
department
requirement
for
turn
around,
which
I
have
on
this
illustration
here.
T
So
we
followed
international
fire
safety
turnaround
which
requires
120
feet
wide
and
70
70
feet.
Deep
salt
lake
city
has
a
little
bit
different
requirements
which
are
160
feet
wide
and
80
feet
deep.
So
of
course,
we
we
need
to
accommodate
that
adding
the
extra
10
feet
into
our
building
and
the
40
feet
in
width
required
us
to
redesign
our
building
and
push
the
you
know,
width
of
the
building.
T
You
know
within
the
30
foot
setback
that
was
the
driver
of
that
the
accessory
building,
as
you
can
note
on
the
first
page,
is
our
clubhouse.
T
You
know
we
work
with
staff
along
our
submittal
over
a
year
ago
to
basically
orient
the
side
of
the
building
to
basically
feel
like
a
front
of
a
building
to
activate
700.
This
building
will
house
our
our
leasing,
office,
property
management,
company
and
the
amenities
I'd
say:
80
percent
of
the
amenities
for
the
project.
That's
there
will
be
other
amenities
in
the
building,
but
you
can
see
what
our
accessory
building
will
look
like
and
then
to
note.
T
One
of
the
conditions
in
the
staff
report
condition
number
three
regarding
unimpeded
access
for
our
development,
our
residents,
it's
not
something
we
were
interested
in
doing,
nor
through
our
process
of
communicating
with
the
community
and
also
noted
in
one
of
our
previous
hearings,
our
neighbor
to
the
east
that
fronts
800
east
also
submitted
a
public
comment
that
they
were
not
in
favor
of
a
connection.
T
T
D
I
have
a
question
which
who
owns
that
access
to
800
south?
Is
that
a
public
way.
T
No,
it's
a
private
right-of-way,
so
it's
a
part.
It's
a
part
of
our
property.
We
went
through
the
title
process.
We
own
it
and
control
it.
One
of
the
conditions,
though,
as
you
would
note,
is
there
is
another
property
right
on
700
east
as
bueno
avenue
comes
east
into
our
property,
and
so
there
as
of
title,
they
have
access,
but
we
may
need
to
redo
that
and
provide
them
an
access
easement,
because
their
parking
lot
runs
off
of
700
east
across
bueno
avenue,
which
is
our
property,
but
it's
it.
T
Yes,
the
back
alleyway
beyond
our
property
line
is
a
private
right-of-way,
so
we
believe
the
owner
of
the
property
owns
the
the
right-of-way
as
well.
D
But
you
don't
you,
you
don't
have
a
legal
right
of
way
on
it,
and
so
I'm
I'm
talking
about
conditional
use
that
kathy
is
asking
you
for
which
is
to
to
allow
people
to
go
toward
800
east
by
bicycle
or
pedestrian,
and
and
I
it
looks
like
on
the
parcel
map
that
that
is
a
private.
It's
an
alleyway,
I
mean,
but
I
don't
know
who
who
owns
it.
Do
you
know
who
owns
it
and
do
you
have
right-of-way
on
it.
T
It's
a
great
question:
we
had
never
focused
on
it
because
we
never
intended
to
connect
to
it.
We
focused
on
the
bueno
avenue
private
right-of-way
on
our
property
to
make
sure
that
nobody
else
had
rights
to
it
and
what
access
we
need
to
provided
to
our
adjacent
property
owners.
So
we
were
never
in
favor
of
it
and
just
saw
the
condition
so
we've
never
explored
the
connection
between
our
property
along
bueno
avenue
to
800
east.
M
I
have
a
question
for
the
applicant,
so
did
you
you
mentioned.
You
spoke
with
the
neighbors.
T
We
have
spoken
with
them
through
our
title
and
acquisition
process
and
they
are
aware
of
exactly
we're
going
to
improve
bueno
avenue.
They
currently
have
rights
per
title
for
access,
but
as
part
of
the
improvement
of
things
change
that
we
are
working
with
them
and
we'll
provide
a
new
access,
easement
and
record
it
if
necessary.
C
Okay,
mr
augustine,
I'll
have
you
hang
tight
while
I
open
the
public
comment
period
after
that's
done
I'll,
give
you
the
chance
to
comment
on
any
of
the
things
that
are
brought
up,
so
I
just
want
to
make
a
brief
statement
again.
If
you
are
interested
in
speaking
on
this
item,
please
hit
the
hand
button
in
the
lower
right
hand
corner
of
your
screen.
You
will
be
called
upon
if
you
will
state
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak.
C
C
Additionally,
state
law
requires
us
to
basically
approve
conditional
uses
if
they
meet
those
standards
and
our
role
becomes
one
of
finding
a
reasonable
mitigation
for
any
detrimental
impacts.
So
I
would
just
ask
if
you
keep
that
in
mind.
If
you
have
an
impact
you're
concerned
about,
please
bring
that
up
in
your
comments,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
hear
what
you
think
a
reasonable
condition
or
a
reasonable
mitigation
would
be
with
that
kelsey.
If
you
wish
to
start.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chairberry.
It
looks
like
east
central
community
council's
here
essential
I'm
unmuting.
You,
you
have
five
minutes.
N
N
N
We
are
asking
that
the
planning
commission
considered
tabling
this
proposal
for
a
mere
number
of
weeks
to
allow
several
things
to
take
place.
Success
for
this
project
lies
in
the
details,
since
the
sro
ordinance
is
not
yet
adopted.
It's
critical
that
this
project
be
done
well
for
this
community
and
also
for
the
city.
It
is
a
forerunner,
it
will
be
a
model.
N
Our
concern
is
that
that
of
mitigation
of
adverse
impacts
in
december
9th
the
east
central
general
meeting
with
the
community,
which
was
attended
by
75
folks,
the
applicant
promised
our
community
several
mitigations
that
are
not
listed
in
the
proposal
or
agreement
such
as
24-hour
around-the-clock
on-site
management
and
security
cameras.
It
is
also
a
requirement
of
the
current
sro
proposal.
N
Impacts
and
how
they
were
meeting
all
of
them.
We
believe
that
additional
things
are
of
concern
to
us,
and
these
include
everything
from
privacy,
light
sunlight
mechanical
system,
placement,
noise,
green
space
that
can
be
provided
with
grass
or
permeable
pavers,
there's
mixed
signals
related
to
utility
upgrades
and
their
locations
of
the
meters,
etc.
N
While
the
parking
complies
with
standards,
how
do
not
impact
fragile
businesses
and
neighborhood
parking
like
wasatch
touring,
that's
just
around
the
corner.
The
belief
is
that
everyone
will
walk
and
use
transit
and
ride.
Bikes
is
not
practical.
This
part
of
the
city
that
is
closest
to
transit
and
works
in
the
area
actually
has
20
more
cars
than
the
average
salt
lake
area,
negative
impact
of
the
accessory
building
in
the
front,
the
reduced
setbacks
on
a
block.
That's
already,
this
dense
a
thoughtful
transit
study.
N
How
to
ease
in
and
out
of
seventh
east
there's,
a
big
difference
between
11
to
12
units
versus
the
amount
of
units
and
bedrooms
that
will
actually
be
in
this
site
and,
first
south
being
a
main
corridor
to
the?
U
and
the
ability
to
turn
right,
and
all
of
that
is
key.
30
days
is
too
short,
we
wondered
who,
on
the
staff
or
planning
commission,
is
actually
experienced,
running
a
boarding
house
as
it
turns
out.
I
have
personal
experience.
N
My
aunt
matilda
roush
ran
a
boarding
house,
believe
it
or
not,
on
1257
east
first
south,
more
than
221
medical
students
of
the
u
98
of
which
were
full-time
residents.
The
success
of
this
type
of
operation
is
absolutely
in
the
details.
We
can
add
needed
value
and
be
creative
with
mitigation,
negative
impacts.
N
As
a
reminder,
we
are
the
only
community
council
area
that
agreed
to
the
initial
adu
pilot
when
all
other
community
councils
rose
up
against
the
policy,
we
are
progressive
and
thoughtful
as
well
as
well
equipped
to
assist
in
housing
placement
area.
We
know
it
because
we
live
it.
No
one
is
more
supportive
of
diverse
housing
than
east
central,
it's
a
model
and
we
are
wanting
to
help
accomplish
it
in
a
positive
way.
N
I
I
With
this
block
than
anyone
you're
likely
to
hear
from
tonight,
the
remarks
at
your
june
meeting
indicate
how
little
members
of
the
commission
and
other
speakers
on
both
sides
of
the
public
comment
understood
about
this
part
of
the
bryant
neighborhood.
With
his
extensive
diversity
and
cdbg
eligibility,
the
city
council
members
didn't
get
it
either.
So
here
we
are
zoning
changed
master
plan
amended.
There
are
two
key
contributors
to
the
opposition
to
the
request
before
you
one
is
that
the
developers
couldn't
acquire
enough
land.
They
tried.
They
especially
needed
more
land
fronting
on
700
east,
as.
I
We
will
never
get
a
decent
street
wall
on
this
block,
one
commensurate
with
the
scale
of
the
700
east
corridor.
There
isn't
enough
land
for
parking.
Secondly,
the
definitions
in
21a
related
to
housing
are
a
mess.
Last
july
I
figured
that
out,
and
I
wrote
you
about
it.
You
didn't
respond.
The
city
council
members
haven't
done
anything
with
the
draft
parking
ordinance
you
sent
them
years
ago.
The
mayor
believes
that
making
parking
difficult
will
result
in
better
air
quality.
You
have
the
authority
to
initiate
a
petition
to
fix
the
definitions.
I
You
have
chosen
not
to
exercise
that
authority
based
on
my
experience
as
a
landlord.
If
a
tenant
is
paying
more
than
800
a
month
for
housing.
The
likelihood
that
the
tenant
has
a
car
is
very
high.
All
of
my
tenants,
paying
more
than
eight
hundred
dollars
a
month,
have
a
car.
If
the
tenant,
who
has
a
car
chooses
to
use
transit,
then
the
need
for
parking
accelerates,
because
the
car
is
parked
most
of
the
time
the
intersection
of
rent
and
transit
determines
the
amount
of
parking
needed.
Higher
rent
means
more
need
for
parking.
I
E
Thank
you,
jen
colby.
This
week
I
sent
you
20
pages.
Detailed
substantive
standards
focused
comments.
Even
a
small
portion
of
these
mitigated
impacts
gives
you
ample
grounds
to
deny
the
cop.
I
urge
you
to
do
so
in
two
minutes.
I
can't
possibly
list
all
the
impacts,
but
you
have
them
in
front
of
you
in
my
analysis,
under
title
5410,
it's
the
applicant's
responsibility
to
provide
quote
proposals
to
mitigate
adverse
impacts
through
site
planning,
development
techniques
and
public
improvements
unquote.
E
But
the
planning
staff
and
commissioners
must
not
take
motivated
reasoning
at
face
value,
the
inadequacy
of
impact
id
and
mitigation.
This
application
is
stunning
and
implies
presumption
of
approval.
Contrary
to
code,
a
192
bedroom
for
lease
building
also
far
exceeds
rmf
45
density
standards.
That's
124
lodging
units
per
acre,
given
their
failure
to
reasonably
identify,
impacts
and
propose
mitigation.
The
requests
are
incomplete
and
do
not
meet
standards.
You
are
required
to
balance
public
need
and
benefits
against
costs.
E
Adding
corporate
owned
market
rate
micro
lodging
units
or,
as
friendly
pivots
would
say,
tiny
boxes
to
warehouse
humans
is
not
a
public
benefit.
It's
a
private
financial
instrument,
the
public
need
for
people
and
homes
for
purchase
is
not
being
met.
Market
rate
rentals
are
already
getting
overbuilt,
as
jim
wrote
just
told
you,
especially
in
the
micro
studio
and
one
bedroom
categories.
A
standard
multi-family
project
is
appropriate
at
this
site,
not
a
so-called
rooming
house.
This
area
is
already
filled
with
plenty
of
shared
housing.
E
I
assure
you
this
proposal
fails
to
add
any
public
benefit
and
imposes
numerous
costs.
Astonishingly,
the
city
council
simply
added
conditions
to
the
up
zone
that
are
already
in
city
code,
conceding
the
lack
of
enforcement
of
occupancy
and
sustainability
ordinances,
corporate
land
speculation,
like
this
only
drives
up
underlying
valuations
and
undermines
affordability
goals
bueno
as
a
private
street
is
already
permeable,
but
seventh
east
is
deadly
to
pedestrians
and
bicyclists.
Upgrading
private
utilities
is
a
private
benefit.
Bottom
line
is
all
private
benefit
and
only
externalized
costs.
Please
deny
thank
you.
C
E
I
do
wish
to
speak,
I
sent
in
comments
to
be
read,
but
those
can
be
disregarded
if,
since
I'm
being
allowed
to
speak,
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
speak
in
solidarity
with
wasatch
tennis
united,
although
I
am
a
homeowner
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
I'm
a
homeowner
and
an
employee
of
the
university
of
utah,
because
those
statuses
mean
that
I
have
options.
Unlike
tenants
in
this
area,
I
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
this
rezoning
project,
and
this
is
my
central
concern.
E
This
project
sets
an
unnecessary
precedent
for
salt
lake
city
and
the
rest
of
the
valley
and
how
we
define
affordable
housing
and
quality
of
life
for
working
class
and
non-working
folks
sros
in
much
higher
density
cities
and
salt
lake
cities
are
typically
a
strategy
for
individuals
with
low
income
who
cannot
afford
market
rate.
Based
on
the
presentation
by
mr
woods
tonight,
you
saw
for
yourselves
that
the
average
rate
for
studios
in
the
valley
in
the
county
is
already
970
dollars
to
eleven
hundred
dollars.
E
These
proposed
units
are
extremely
close
to
that
for
much
less
space
and
little
to
no
privacy.
I
think
in
the
city's
list
of
conditional
standards,
I
heard
no
mention
of
people.
I
heard
no
mention
of
screening
requirements,
security
or
how
this
priority
list
for
first
responders
teachers
and
other
working
professionals
was
decided.
E
How
will
the
city
prevent
folks
who
actually
need
housing
from
being
discriminated
against
in
an
earlier
meeting?
The
developer
said
that
this
list
was
constructed
because
they
thought
that
if
they
would
appeal
or
be
ideal
for
working
professionals
like
teachers
or
recent
graduates
of
the
university,
a
lot
of
our
university
graduates
have
families.
So
I
don't
see
how
that
actually
fits.
E
But,
as
a
teacher,
if
I
had
a
choice,
I
would
not
want
to
come
home
to
a
unit
with
four
other
possible
strangers
and
try
to
get
work
done
after
a
stressful
day
of
work,
and
I
feel,
like
the
other
workers
that
were
listed
by
the
presenter
this
evening,
would
also
probably
prefer
a
little
bit
more
privacy.
C
Thank
you
if
you
would
just
say
your
name
for
the
record,
please
crystal
reds.
Okay,
thank
you
crystal
for
your
comments.
Q
I
For
the
record,
my
name
is
john
ribbons,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
well,
not
on
behalf
of
but
as
a
part
of
wasatch
trends.
United
generally,
we've
already
voiced
our
opposition
to
this.
For
the
following
reasons:
these
units
are
not
more
affordable,
they're,
just
smaller
the
per
square.
I
Per
square
foot
studios
already
on
the
block
boarding
rooms
as
a
solution
to
housing
shortages
will
create
a
situation
where
the
standard
housing,
where
standard
housing
that
contains
both
kitchens
and
bathrooms
becoming
luxuries.
I
This
vote
is
going
to
set
this
vote.
Just
also,
generally
is
going
to
set
a
precedent
about
what
this
commission
believes
is
an
acceptable
form
of
housing
for
your
working-class
residents.
Residents
in
this
neighborhood
are
against
this
reason,
including
tenants
and
homeowners.
The
community
council.
I
Well,
the
community
councils
has
said
that
they
want
to
table
this
and
tenants
organizations
in
the
area
believe
this
will
negatively
affect
their
lives.
We
want
to
acknowledge
and
applaud
the
commission's
previous
vote
on
this
project.
The
city
seems
determined
to
ignore
it,
but
we
also
want
to
ask
commissioners
to
reflect
on
the
notion
of
civility
and
the
damage
being
done.
M
And
we
would
ask
that
the
council
seriously
consider
the
message
being.
I
Sent
to
the
constituents
and
the
residents
of
this
valley
if
this
gets
passed,
despite
ample
community
opposition
and
ample
community
feedback
to
the
contrary
and
against
this
motion
and
against
this
reason
anyway.
Thank
you.
I
D
I
I
Enjoy
the
families
in
our
neighborhoods,
we
cut,
we
cuddle,
we
hug
them.
We
know
them,
I'm
kind
of
old.
So
that's
a
thing
but
they're
back
to
the
beginning.
I
Pants
amenity
building,
we
don't
need
that
they
need
more
parking.
D
N
Thanks
for
your
service
and
trying
to
open
this
door.
I
C
M
Okay,
my
name
is
justin
roland,
I'm
a
tenant
that
lives
just
a
block
away
from
where
this
proposed
project
is
from,
and
I
also
stand
in
unity
with
what
wasatch
chance
united
just
said
about
this
project
already.
M
You
know,
and
I
recognize
that
I'm
lucky
for
finding
a
place
that
was
relatively
inexpensive,
but
I
think
it
says
a
precedent
that
allows
for
smaller
units,
higher
prices
and
honestly
just
worse
living
conditions,
and
I
don't
think
that's
a
precedent
we
want
to
set
here
in
the
city
for
the
working
class.
Otherwise,
we
will
end
up
pushing
people
out
and
yeah.
I
I
like
the
neighborhood.
M
I
don't
have
to
end
up
moving
out
of
there,
because
you
know
land
speculation
and
big
developers
coming
in
and
buying
up
properties
continues
to
raise
the
rent
all
around
the
city,
and
I
think
this
is
yeah.
I
don't
think
this
project
does
any
good
for
the
current
residents.
I
don't
think
it
does
any
good
for
the
future
residents
of
the
complex,
and
I
don't
think
yeah.
I
think
it
just
ends
up
hurting
the
city
in
the
long
run
and
being
able
to
be
what
it
wants
to
be.
Thank
you.
O
Yeah
give
me
a
second:
we
need
to
think
about
three
terms:
young
professional,
affordable
and
dignity.
The
term
young
professional
is
mentioned
every
time.
One
of
these
developments
is
proposed
and
it's
being
used
wrong.
You
do
seem
to
think
that
we're
rich
or
we
can
afford
to
spend
half
our
income
on
rental.
I'm
a
young
professional
I've
got
a
bunch
of
friends
who
are
a
young
professional.
I've
done
a
quick
survey
and
the
unanimous
opinion
is
the
only
reason
anyone
would
want.
O
One
of
these
dorms
call
them
what
they
are
is
if
they
were
desperate.
Why
would
they
be
desperate
because
there's
a
lack
of
anything
approaching
affordable
housing
in
salt
lake
because
of
developments
like
this?
This
lack
is
not
necessary.
This
developer
could
choose
to
offer
affordable
housing
and
get
tax
credits
for
doing
so
insist
they.
Instead,
they
insist
on
class
a
luxury
market
rate.
Housing
then
have
the
gall
to
call
their
dorms
attainable.
O
You
might
ask
why
none
of
my
surveyed
friends
are
here
simple:
they
can't
afford
to
be
they're
working
to
barely
afford
market
rate
housing.
Finally,
we
have
dignity
being
a
renter
is
not
very
dignified.
Renter
rights
in
utah
are
practically
non-existent.
Looking
at
the
members
of
board,
I
don't
imagine
any
of
you
have
rented
recently,
but
I
can
tell
you
it
has
gotten
worse
and
more
expensive
for
young
professionals.
Roommates
are
a
requirement,
not
a
choice.
Choosing
your
roommates
for
compatibility
is
one
of
the
few
dignities
renters
have
left.
O
O
So
what
we
have
are
dorms
that
lie
and
call
themselves
affordable
and
prey
on
desperate
young
professionals
while
trampling
on
our
dignity,
please
vote
to
table
this
and
add
serious
conditions
or
cancel
it
entirely.
Consider
that
rooming
houses
are
not
a
common
land
use
because
they
are
terrible
unless
they
are
managed
dorms.
O
I
Okay,
thank
you
so
melinda
maine,
as
you
said,
and
I'm
a
voting
member
on
the
east
central
executive
board
and
I'm
also
a
resident
and
a
board
representative
of
the
bryant
neighborhood
in
which
this
application
has
been
requested.
I
I've
lived
here
a
long
time.
I
see
a
lot
of
the
unintended
consequences
of
a
lot
of
what
the
city
is
doing,
but
the
three
main
points
that
I
would
like
to
make
is
that
these
projects
need
more
parking.
I
know
they
meet
the
standard
of
what
the
city's
minimum
code
has
established,
but
it's
not
realistic.
I
They
they
I
mean.
The
developer,
loves
this
neighborhood
too.
I
mean
he
wants
to
create
something
that
it
just
does
not
fit
in.
It
needs
more
green
space
and
green
space,
isn't
just
a
few
trees
and
a
little
square
block
of.
I
I
So,
in
light
of
the
property
you
know
what's
been
said
tonight,
I
agree,
and
I
hope
that
you
all
have
read
the
letter
that
east
central
community
board
sent
on
march
the
2nd
and
if
you
haven't,
I
plead
with
you
to
please
read
that
again
and
we
would
like
an
opportunity
to
actually
meet
on
site
with
the
developer
and.
I
N
N
Thank
you
very
much,
so
you
already
know
my
name.
Please
deny
the
requests
for
these
permits,
especially
the
conditional
use
for
a
so-called
mega
rooming
house.
A
massive
new
190
unit
building
does
not
fit
the
idea
or
definition
of
a
rooming
house.
It's
exploitation,
not
innovation.
N
This
project
would
cause
many
impacts
that
are
not
being
addressed
or
mitigated.
I
have
lived
two
blocks
away
for
decades
and
raised
my
children
in
the
neighborhood.
They
are
now
in
their
20s,
actually
one
of
in
his
30s,
and
they
are
being
priced
out
of
the
area
as
they
struggle
to
find
affordable
rentals.
N
They
deserve
dignity
and
opportunity.
They
should
not
be
forced
to
settle
for
tiny
private
bedrooms
and
share
common
space
with
strangers
at
even
higher
rents.
A
public
the
public
need
to
be
for
deeply
affordable.
Rentals,
family
housing
and
homes
for
purchase
is
not
being
met
with
this
project.
It
will
demolish
13
existing
rental
apartments
and
cottages
that
accommodate
multi-person
households
and
will
not
replace
them.
The
co-living
units
would
be
one
person
per
bedroom
leases.
Only
market
rate
apartments
are
already
being
overbuilt
in
the
area,
especially
micro
units
efficiencies.
N
N
I
C
Monica
thank
you
monica
can
I
just
ask
if
you
have
spoken
already,
please
hit
that
hand
button
to
lower
it
so
that
we
can
effectively
manage
the
list
of
who
still
needs
to
speak.
Thank
you.
A
Such
logistical
concerns
aside,
this
project
does
nothing
to
meet
the
apparently
huge
demand
for
affordable
family
housing
in
salt
lake.
In
fact,
it
eliminates
existing,
affordable
family
housing
and
even
more
unfortunately,
misses
the
opportunity
to
build
more
such
housing
on
this
interesting
and
promising
parcel
a
mix
of
town
houses,
homes
and
apartments,
including
maybe
a
much
more
appropriately
scaled
boarding,
house
or
co-housing
option
in
the
mix.
If
that
really
is
of
interest
to
the
developer,
would
go
much
further
towards
meeting
the
needs
of
our
city.
A
Thank
you
time
on
this
matter
tonight.
B
Oh
yeah
sebastian
chang
speaking.
I
Many
good
arguments
have
been
brought
up
against
this
project.
I
want
to
highlight
the
ones
that
are
most
important
to
me.
This
is
clearly
not
affordable,
housing
seated
per
squad
per
square
foot
price.
Second,
you
can't
you
cannot
raise
a
family
in
a
studio
or
micro
flat.
Not
everyone
is
a
single
young,
professional
third
co-living
spaces
are
best
a
patch
for
the
housing
demand
in
salt
lake
city.
They
do
not
help
with
strengthening
the
fabric
of
the
community
in
urban
salt
lake
city.
I
Fourth,
further
acceleration
of
house
prices
and
rents
will
only
continue
to
drive
families
away
from
the
city.
Fifth,
this
is
not
a
charity
project,
but
simply
a
financial
vehicle
of
enriching
the
real
estate
developer
at
the
expense
of
the
community.
I
say
these
things
because
my
family
and
I
moved
here
in
2021
from
hong
kong.
Hong
kong,
as
you
may
know,
is
a
hyper,
almost
dystopian
space
with
a
lot
of
very
densely
populated
buildings.
I
We
lived
on
the
street
with
only
high-rise
buildings,
but
therefore
without
trees,
and
and
there
was
no
playground
within
walking
distance
in
hong
kong,
every
square
inch
is
covered
in
concrete.
It's
a
place
where
you
have
to
take
your
kids
to
indoor
playgrounds
and
where
only
the
super
rich
can
afford
to
live
in
single-family
houses.
I
cannot
imagine
that
you
have
this
in
mind
for
the
future
of
salt
lake
city.
Please
vote
with
no
for
the
bueno
project.
Thank
you.
M
Cool,
so
my
family
came
here
in
the
1850s
and
they
had
a
they
had
another
term
for
housing
like
this
back
then
it
was
a
tenement.
M
Let
me
read
you
the
definition
for
a
tenement.
There
are
apartment
houses
that
barely
meet
or
fail
to
meet
the
minimum
standards
of
safety,
sanitation
and
comfort,
which
these
buildings
do
nothing
to
meet.
These
standards
there's
very
little
safety
when
you're,
sharing
that
kind
of
space
with
strangers
it's
hard
to
keep
anything
clean
when
you
have
no
control
over
that
and
you're
sharing
with
space,
bathroom
and
kitchen
space
with
strangers
and
there's
nowhere
to
exist
outside
of
your
bedroom.
M
This
kind
of
development
treats
people
like
rats,
I'm
not
a
rap
as
a
working
class
person.
I
am
a
person
and
I
deserve
to
live
with
dignity,
just
as
everyone
else
does.
So.
That's
all
I'm
going
to
say
about
it.
Cancel
it
deny
it
whatever
you
have
to
do,
but
this
is
ridiculous.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
miss
lindquist
and
chair
berry
for
the
record.
My
name
is
jacob
wilkes
I'll,
be
brief.
I'm
a
concerned
citizen
and
I'm
wary
of
this
development.
F
F
You
need
a
place
where
someone
can
feel
safe,
where
you
can
keep
your
possessions
where
you
have
the
space
to
keep
your
possessions
and
the
space
to
do
where
you're
free
to
do
as
you
please,
and
this
area
leaves
me
with
a
lot
of
questions
like
how
would
you
ensure
tenant
use
of
the
common
area
or
to
be
precise?
How
would
you
limit
non-tenant
use?
What
would
the
hours
of
access
be?
How
would
you
secure
the
property?
F
F
And
finally,
is
there
any
guarantee
any
guarantee
of
the
bathrooms
per
room
that
was
mentioned,
and
so
in
conclusion,
this
this
doesn't
seem
affordable.
It
doesn't
seem
like
housing,
and
I
strongly
urge
the
commission
to
stand
against
us
and
thank
them
for
their
time
and
service.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments.
Okay,
were
there
any
written
comments
that
were
submitted.
G
There
are
a
few
we
did
receive
a
couple
comments
after
4
p.m,
one
from
sara,
linda
bell.
Would
you
like
me
to
read
that
into
the
record,
or
did
the
commission
have
adequate
time
to
read
that
comment.
G
Then
this
is
from
sarah
linda
bell.
G
I
have
reviewed
the
packet
of
information
on
the
slc.gov
planning
site
and,
while
the
pictures
are
pretty
and
the
idea
of
providing
affordable
housing
is
always
a
good
idea,
the
proposed
quote:
innovative,
unquote
housing
structure
is
archaic
and
full
of
potential
problems.
This
type
of
housing
is
completely
inappropriate
for
families.
So
by
promoting
this
type
of
housing,
innovation,
the
city
is
pushing
families
away
from
the
city.
G
The
packet
does
not
suggest
what
level
of
rent
will
be
expected
for
leasing
in
bed,
but
it
is
clearly
intended
for
short-term
single
residences
that
does
not
promote
investment
in
the
neighborhood
or
city.
Please
do
not
allow
this
development
to
occur
as
it
is
now
planned.
We
need
quality
housing
for
families.
We
need
affordable
housing
for
individuals
that
do
not
compromise
their
safety
or
quality
of
life.
G
We
do
not
need
modern
day
short-term
boarding
houses,
the
building,
design
and
density
concept
is
good.
Please
promote
traditional
options
where
both
individuals
and
families
can
live
in
safety
and
harmony
with
an
appropriate
quality
of
life.
That
includes
not
being
forced
to
share
a
kitchen
with
people
that
you
do
not
know
or
have
not
asked
to
live
with.
This
is
not
affordable.
High
density
housing.
This
is
jail.
G
Thank
you.
Please
do
not
support
this
development
as
it
is
currently
designed.
We
did
receive
an
additional
comment
from
josh
kibble
bits.
Would
you
like
me
to
read
that
into
the
record
as
well?
I'm
playing
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
struggling
with
names.
G
G
This
is
not
affordable
housing,
nor
does
it
respect
the
dignity
of
our
lower
income.
Community
members.
I
doubt
that
any
of
you
would
ever
live
in
a
housing
unit
that
does
not
have
a
private
kitchen.
Evan
is
a
psychotherapist
with
a
master's
degree
in
a
thriving
private
practice.
This
is
not
cheap.
Rent.
Minimum
wage
is
one
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
six
dollars
per
year
pre-tax
and
there
is
no
way
our
lower
income
community
members
could
afford
this
housing
and
they
deserve
to
have
access
to
their
own
kitchens.
G
These
units
are
tiny
absent
of
amenities
that
we
should
all
be
afforded
and
will
only
raise
the
cost
of
units
across
salt
lake.
This
is
a
dangerous
idea
that
will
only
hurt
our
neighborhoods
stop,
bending
over
backwards
for
developers
trying
to
capitalize
off
our
broken
housing
market
best
josh
all
right-
and
I
have
one
more
okay.
G
This
is
from
casey
mcdonald,
mcdonough.
Yeah.
Sorry,
you
it's
the
long
night,
dear
planning
commission,
to
cut
to
the
chase.
I
am
writing
to
ask
that
you
please
vote
to
deny
conditional
use
approval
for
the
bueno
avenue
boarding,
slash
rooming
house.
Just
a
few
of
my
concerns
about
this
project
are
as
follows:
the
project
does
not
meet
all
of
the
extensive
requirements
for
conditional
use,
approval
per
city
code
and
the
impacts
on
the
surrounding
neighborhood
will
have
far
more
negative
consequences
than
positive
ones.
G
G
There
is
more
bait
and
switch
tactics
being
sold
to
us
as
residents
of
salt
lake
city,
that
more
housing,
more
density,
this
boarding
house
project,
etc
will
also
help
solve
our
affordable
housing
crisis.
This
project
is,
in
essence,
a
far
too
large
four
bedroom
apartment
complex
for
the
neighborhood
four.
This
project
continues
to
blatantly
ignore
many
years
of
planning,
community
input
and
poor
thought
that
considered
all
of
the
encumbrances
like
a
private
street
utilities
that
would
have
to
be
modernized,
etc
and
and
concluded.
G
G
You
were
correct
when
sent
a
negative
recommendation
about
the
rezoning
last
september.
The
city
council
made
a
misguided
decision
to
ignore
your
input.
That
was
a
direct
reflection
of
those
living
in
the
neighborhood
and
nearby.
Please,
please,
do
not
approve
this
request
for
the
conditional
use
as
a
boarding
house.
This
developer
can
do
better
and
our
neighborhood
deserves
better.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
I
really
appreciate
it.
C
C
C
C
I
think
you
have
a
commission
that
is
very
sympathetic
to
the
issue
of
affordability.
I
think
we
all
find
that
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
pressing
issues
we
have,
especially
with
housing.
Unfortunately,
affordability
and
price
points
is
not
a
legal
standard.
We
cannot
review
projects
based
on
that
topic,
even
though
many
of
us
may
wish
we
could,
but
we
hear
you,
but
it
the
legal
box
we
operate
in
does
not
give
us
that
option.
C
C
The
issues
of
affordability
and
parking
and
their
lack
of
it
is
really
a
question
for
the
city
council,
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
to
start
to
get
to
know
your
city
council
member
and
have
discussions
with
them
about
that,
because
they
are
the
ones
that
make
those
decisions
that
then
we
as
a
planning,
commission
and
staff
at
the
city
have
to
follow
so.
C
Okay
with
that,
I
want
to
bring
it
back
to
mr
augustine
if
you
want
to
take
a
few
moments
to
address
some
of
the
overarching
concerns
that
came
up
in
the
public
comments.
I'll
give
you
that
time
and
then
we'll
take
it
to
the
commissioners
for
a
discussion.
T
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
have
one
I
think
is
definitely
worth
addressing
in
that
we
have
15
years
of
experience,
owning
and
operating
student
housing,
and
although
this
isn't
intended
to
be
student
housing,
that
is
the
most
intense
operation
of
roommates
and
we're
not
just
one
we're
not
forcing
people
to
live
here,
and
we
understand
that
you
know
this
65
unit.
192
bad
deal
is
not
going
to
address
the
housing
crisis
in
salt
lake,
but
is
it?
T
Is
it
intended
to
make
a
small
dent
to
a
certain
demographic
of
of
renter,
but
the
operations
of
the
property
is
very
thoughtful
thoughtful
in
a
way
where
we'll
use
a
management
company
that
we
use
very
regularly,
who
has
spent
decades
mastering
roommate
matching
how
we
create
profile
sheets?
How
we,
you
know,
understand
people's
habits.
Do
they
stay
up
late?
Do
they
go
to
bed
early?
We
have
roommate
mixers,
nobody
is
randomly
thrown
in
to
these
units,
also
no
cause.
T
T
This
isn't
a
kitchen
per
floor
situation
and
that's
more
of
a
clarification,
but
I
think
the
thing
I
heard
the
most
was
you
know:
taking
away
dignity
and
throwing
people
and
forcing
them
to
live
in
these
bedrooms
or
units
against
their
will
with
people
that
you
know
are
complete
strangers,
and
I
would
just
state
that
that
is
not
the
case
and
we
have
vast
experience
in
operating
by
the
bedroom,
rentals
and
doing
thoughtful
matching
and
addressing
any
issues
that
come
up
which
happen
with
students,
adults,
etc.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
augustine,
very
commissioners,
and
I
will
bring
it
to
you
for
discussion
on
the
items
before
us.
The
plan
development
regarding
the
setbacks
and,
and
then
the
conditional
use
of
the
rooming
house.
A
Excuse
me,
madam
chair,
this
is
nick.
Can
I
make
a
suggestion
on
how
to
maybe
perhaps
think
about
this,
because
the
conditional
use
standards
require
compliance
with
all
other
regulations?
I
think
the
planning
commission
has
to
discuss
the
plan
development
portion
first.
C
A
C
A
That's
if
that
you
know,
if
the
planning
commission
finds
that
the
that
those
requested
modifications
are
should
be
approved,
then
you
can
move
on
to
the
condition
conditional
use.
But
if
you,
if
you
decide
that
they
cannot
be
approved,
you
could
not
pot,
you
couldn't
approve
the
condition
they
use.
So
I
think
that's
that's
the
first
step
that
the
commission
should
consider.
C
D
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
address
the
plan
development
portion
of
the
issue,
so
there
are
three
three
problems
with
the
plan:
development
that
have
that
need
to
be
that
need
to
be
that
the
developer
needs
some
relief.
D
D
The
second
one
is
the
accessory,
the
frontage
that
has
an
accessory
building,
which,
in
accessory
building,
is
not
allowed
on
the
frontage,
and
the
third
is
a
rear
yard
setback,
and
so,
in
terms
of
the
accessory
structure,
I
think
that
at
least
one
of
the
commenters
commented
that
it
would
be
that
it
is
kind
of
unreasonable
to
suggest
that
little
small
houses
are
going
to
continue
to
be
the
seven
the
idea
on
700
east.
D
We
already
have
a
large
number
of
taller
buildings
there,
and
I
do
believe
that
having
an
accessory
building
there
having
a
small
house
looking
building,
there
does
not
comply
with
number
c3
of
our
conditional
of
our
planned
development
requirements.
That
is,
it
is
not
in
visual
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
so
and
that
that
is
in
particular.
D
I
would
like
to
see
the
development
consider
the
larger
building
there,
even
one
that
has
units
in
it,
especially
one
that
has
would
have
units
in
it,
so
that
we
would
have
a
street
wall
continuity
there.
D
The
second
that
that's
the
second
and
I
think
also
it
also
doesn't
comply
with
c4,
which
is
the
building
facade
to
be
just
similar
to
the
one
little
house
next
door,
which
we
know
we
know,
is
going
to
come
down
sooner
or
later,
very
soon,
probably
because
of
the
changing
nature
of
this
street,
because
of
the
way
that
700
east
is
such
a
major
street.
I
think
this
is
a
very
short-sighted
compliance
with
anything.
That's
a
similar
house,
similar
building.
D
So
that's
that's
the
accessory
structure,
so
I
would.
The
second
thing
that
I
do
have
a
problem
with:
is
the
rear
yard
setback,
there's
a
30-foot,
rear
yard
setback
and,
and
normally
this
might
not
be
an
issue,
but
I
don't
see
any
particular
reason
why
the
building
was
designed.
This
way
the
the
applicant
referred
to
the
fire
lane
or
something
like
that.
D
D
It
doesn't
actually
comply
really
with
whether
the
church
would
condition
number
d1
under
landscaping.
So
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
the
developer.
I
think
that
we're
really
barking
up
the
wrong
three
to
suggest
that
this
project
is
not
going
to
happen.
D
I
would
like
to
see
it
be
a
better
project
with
a
more
substantial
building,
instead
of
an
accessory
building
on
700
east,
with
more
open
space
allowed
in
the
back
of
the
back
of
the
project,
even
if
that
means
that
there
are
fewer
units,
because
I
think
this
condition
was
known
from
the
very
beginning
of
this
project.
This
was
not
a
new.
It
was
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
the
applicant
asks
for
the
zoning
requirement.
They
know
what
the
setback
is
on
that
requirement
and
they
are
not
complying
with
it.
N
H
I
think
it
has
great
potential,
I
think
the
developer
is,
you
know,
throwing
out
some
good
ideas
and
putting
them
together
on
paper,
and
I
think
it
has
a
good
potential,
but
those
things
that
were
mentioned
also
kind
of
move
over
in
my
head.
You
know
the
local
street
drive
access
could
be
negatively
impacted
in
this
particular
project.
H
I
think
also-
and
so
you
know-
I'm
not
really
opposed
to
the
to
this
one,
but
you
know
perhaps
tabling
it
might
be
an
option
like
to
be
considered,
but
those
are
my
my
two
cents.
C
Okay,
anyone
else
want
to
enter
in
the
discussion
with
their
thoughts.
C
Okay,
so
in
the
motion
sheet,
these
case
numbers
are
combined
and
I
would
perhaps
pose
the
question
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
motion
at
this
point
to
separate
them
based
on
their
feelings
about
a
planned
development.
C
You
would
need
to
craft
that
without
too
much
help
from
the
motion
sheet,
because
they're
they're
combined
in
there,
but
I'm
willing
to
entertain
any
kind
of
emotion,
yeah
go
ahead.
D
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
table
this
so
that
the
developer
can
address
the
condition,
the
plan
development
issues
that
have
been
raised
in
this
meeting,
specifically
number
c
c3,
c4
and
d1
as
a
part
of
the
conditional
use,
because
the
planning
commission
has
determined
that
at
this
point
these
are
not
fully
met.
You
mean,
as
part
of
the
plan
development.
E
C
Thank
you
yeah,
so
we
we
have
a
motion
to
table
the
plan
development
which
would
then
subsequently
ask
the
table.
The
conditional
use
question.
Do
I
have
a
second
I'll.
C
E
I
I
guess
I'm
still
confused
on
exactly
yeah,
so
I
guess
I
I'm
always
I
don't
have
an
architecture,
background
brenda
and
I'm
always
confused
about
the
staff
who
I
guess
again.
I
just
have
to
have
a
lot
of
evidence
because
I
think
of
the
staffs
as
professional
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
why
you've
reached
a
different
conclusion
than
the
staff
on
these
on
these
matters.
E
D
Right
well,
I
normally
do
as
well
as
we
all
do,
but
I
think
that
there
are.
There
are
several
things
that
I
want
to
take
into
consideration
here.
To
answer
your
question.
Okay,
the
first
is
is
something
we
call
a
street
wall.
This
is
a
condition
of
creating
a
stopping
point.
Well,
so
in
fact,
you're
not
just
looking
at
street
that
sort
of
bleeds
off
into
space,
but
you're,
actually
creating
a
space.
D
700
east
is
a
very
wide
street
and
the
taller
the
buildings
that
we
have
on
700d,
the
more
defined
the
space
is
so
where
you
have
a
mcdonald's
in
a
parking
lot,
the
space
is
not
defined,
but
if
you
travel
along
a
place
like
parts
of
downtown
parts
that
are
developing
where
we
are
having
a
lot
of
these
new
apartment
buildings,
you
find
that
we
begin
to
line
the
street
with
apartment
projects
or
so
or
with
other
kinds
of
projects
that
get
that
define
the
space
of
the
street.
D
It's
sort
of
like
when
you
want
to.
When
you
want
to
create
a
hallway
in
your
house,
you
don't
want
the
hallway
to
bleed
out
into
your
living
room.
You
might
want
that,
because
in
the
house,
that's
okay,
but
in
creating
a
an
urban
aspect,
not
a
suburban
one,
but
an
urban
aspect.
One
of
the
things
that
you
do
want
to
do
is
to
create
the
street
wall.
E
C
Wait
wait,
wait,
no
plan
development
standards
are
on
102.,
you're,
awesome,
amy,
so
yeah.
E
E
Okay,
I
see
what
you're
saying
okay
and
you're,
so
the
building
orientation
you
feel
is
not
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood
actually.
D
Now
the
the
city
council,
in
their
wisdom,
has
approved
the
zoning
of
rmf
45,
which
suggests
a
45-foot
height,
not
that
it's
you
have
to
build
a
45-foot
height,
but
in
this
particular
case
they're
not
they're
not
proposing
to
build
they're
proposing
to
build
an
accessory
building,
not
a
building
that
has
so.
That
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
leeway
to
suggest
that
that
particular
building
might
be
a
better
building
if
it
actually
complied
with
something
which
would
create
a
street
wall
along
700..
D
D
E
C
I
don't
think
we
are
necessarily
requiring
specific
things,
but
that
they
review
so
that
they
meet
that
standard,
because
brenda
is
arguing
that
well
and
currently
accessory
structures
are
not
permitted
in
this
development,
so
she
wants
them
to
go
back
and
look
at
making
it
comply
and-
and-
and
I
don't
know
that
you
will
agree
with
her-
and
I
think
that's
okay,
but
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
table,
we'll
go
ahead
and
vote
on
that
and
you
can
support
it
or
not.
That's
totally
your
purview,
john.
A
C
Okay,
that
motion
to
table
with
those
specific
instructions
to
look
at
those
components
of
the
standards
passes.
G
Real
quickly,
chair
barry,
could
we
clarify
whether
or
not
the
public
hearing
is
continued?
With
that
item
or
closed.
C
I
think
that
we
should
keep
it
open
for
that
item
for
the
future.
Yes,
thank
you.
C
I
think
that
you,
you
can
definitely
bring
those
up
with
katya,
okay
and
have
that
be
part
of
anything
she
can
address
while
this
gets
tabled.
So
you
should
feel
free
to
do
that,
email,
her
and
talk
to
her
about
that,
mr
augustine,
so
that
will
go
back.
C
C
Okay,
no,
I
appreciate
that
direction,
so
I
would
be
looking
for
a
motion
to
table
also
table
the
conditional
use
reasoning
being
because
we
tabled
the
plan
development
nick.
I
A
C
All
right,
thank
you.
I
have
a
motion
from
brenda
in
a
second
from
mike
we'll
go
ahead
and
just
vote
on
that
maureen.
Yes,
amy.
C
I
F
A
C
Okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously
to
wrap
up
that
magenta
item.
C
Did
we
do
that
successfully?
Nick.
C
C
We
have
three
left.
It
is
8
30..
C
Okay,
one
more
it
is
for
this
time.
This
is
going
to
be
the
liberty,
duet,
apartments,
design,
review
and
plan
development
at
approximately
347
353
355
and
357
east
500
south.
This
is
for
a
design
review,
which
would
be
case
number
pln,
pcm
2021-01109.
R
Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission
yeah-
let's
see,
let's
get
this
to
move
forward
here.
Okay,
so
yeah
we're
looking
at
two
different
things.
This
is
a
request
for
a
54
unit.
R
Apartment
building
proposed
is
60
feet
tall
stories
and
it's
an
rmu
45
zone
and
just
east
of
the
public
safety
building,
and
there
are
two
requests
before
you,
and
so
the
first,
with
design
review
is
for
an
additional
10
feet
of
building
height,
and
the
dining
commission
may
allow
up
to
55
feet
through
the
designer
view
and
then
for
a
reduction
in
ground
floor
use
along
500,
south
and
you'll
see
the
percentages
there
on
your
screen
and
also
a
reduction
of
glass,
I'm
sorry
along
500,
south
and
blair
street,
and
then
also
a
reduction
of
glass
along
500,
south
and
blair
street,
as
well,
and
for
a
separation
of
105
feet
between
entries
along
blair
street,
where
75
would
be
required
and
to
eliminate
the
need
for
a
10
foot,
building,
step
back
above
30
feet
along
500
south
in
blair
street
and
we'll
look
at
these
more
particularly.
R
So
you
don't
have
to
get
too
caught
up
in
trying
to
remember
them
all,
but
and
then
for
the
planned
development.
It's
to
add
an
additional
five
feet
of
height,
so
you'll
notice,
there's
height,
mentioned
in
both
processes,
and
they
can
stack
those
two.
R
You'll
see
the
public
safety
building
here
to
the
left,
blair
street
here,
500
south,
of
course-
and
this
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
context
with
the
existing
parking
garage
to
the
east
and
two
and
one-story
buildings
here
and
surface
parking
to
the
rear
and
currently
at
the
site.
There
is
a
jewelry
store.
That's
come
out
of
business
so
again,
this
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
context.
R
Kind
of
three-dimensional,
and
what
you
don't
see
here,
representative,
is
the
nine-story
apartments
that
were
recently
completed
along
blair
street
and
for
fourth
south
as
well.
R
This
does
show
the
zoning
in
in
the
vicinity,
so
the
the
properties
are
here
outlined
in
yellow,
but
it
does
have
a
number
of
other
zones
around
it.
The
pl2
zone,
where
the
public
safety
building
is
the
tsa
zone
here
and
I'll
just
mention
that
allow
again
those
are
nine
story-
development,
the
rmu
of
45
surrounding
it
to
the
east,
an
ro
across
the
street,
which
allows
up
to
60
feet
and
then
rmu
here
and
which
you
don't
see
behind
this
table
of
contents
or
I'm
sorry.
R
R
So
this
in
the
top
left
is
what's
on
the
property
now
and,
of
course,
the
public
safety
building,
and
this
shows
blair
street
with
a
little
bit
of
a
elevation
change
between
the
subject,
property
and
blair
street
here.
The
recently
completed
development
to
the
north,
and
this
is
the
parking
garage
and
one
and
two
story
buildings
to
the
east.
R
R
So
looking
at
this,
these
are
for
market
rate
apartments,
which
has
been
brought
up
in
a
number
of
occasions.
Tonight,
it's
in
the
central
community
master
plan
and
I'll
note
now
that
that
community
did
not
provide
official
comment
to
staff
on
on
the
development
or
request
for
it
to
be
heard
at
one
of
their
community
council
meetings.
R
It
does
consist
of
three
part,
I'm
sorry,
four
parcels
that
will
need
to
be
combined
and
the
developers
in
the
process
of
that
application,
with
the
planning
department
currently
again
60
feet
tall
and
to
the
top
of
that
roof
structure.
You
see
on
the
image
ground
floor
uses
will
include
a
fitness
center,
a
lobby
and
lounge,
and
then
a
bike
wash
and
repair
and
storage
facility
and
then,
in
addition
to
parking
which
is
located
interior
to
the
project
and
the
upper
floor
is
all
residential
units
and
it
does
have.
R
Two
outdoor
spaces,
one
kind
of
this
rooftop
deck
here
and
then
on
the
east
side.
There's
an
open
courtyard
above
the
second
floor
kind
of
creating
kind
of
a
u-shaped
building,
which
you
don't
see
in
this
image.
But
so
two
open
areas.
R
R
This
is
a
of
course,
a
technically
a
corner
property
again
we're
looking
right
here
at
these
properties,
so
it's
a
corner
property
along
500,
south
and
blair
street,
and
so
all
the
design
requirements
are
kind
of
geared
towards
a
corner
development,
but
really
blair's
and
and
blair
street
is
a
private
street,
but
it
it
actually
only
has
access
easement
for
the
fire
department
and
public
safety
buildings.
There
are
public
safety
vehicles,
so
it's
really
restricted
in
access.
R
R
We
thought
that'd
be
a
better
solution
and
we
quickly
learned
a
little
bit
more
about
this
street
and
its
unique
nature,
and
that
was
taken
off
the
table,
so
it
really
functions
more
like
a
private,
driveway
and
that'll
be
critical
when
we
start
looking
at
the
design
request
that
it's
really
not
it
doesn't
function
like
a
typical
street.
Would
a
couple
other
things
about
it.
There's
sidewalk
only
on
the
west
side
of
blair
street
and
there's
no,
this
property.
R
Wouldn't
you
know
it
doesn't
include
any
you
know
going
up
to
the
an
area
the
right
way
that
would
allow
for
any
additional
sidewalks.
So
everything
has
to
just
be
provided
on
their
own
property
and
then
it
does
face
the
rear
of
the
public
safety
building.
So
there
is,
although
there's
upper
floor
windows,
there's
also
that's
where
trash
is
collected
and
kind
of
the
rear
entrance
to
the
building.
So
just
wanted
to
make
everyone
aware
of
what's
happening
there.
R
So
in
looking
at
this
first,
looking
at
the
design
review
standards
again
they're
requesting
the
additional
height
which
I've
kind
of
indicated
here.
R
R
R
They
can't
have
their
vehicle
access
off
blair,
it's
required
to
be
on
the
front
of
the
building,
and
so
that
you
know
automatically
takes
up
a
fair
amount
of
the
space,
and
so
by
the
time
they
you
know,
they
have
the
stairwell
and
elevator
shaft
and
and
some
of
these
other
things,
it
really
restricts
how
much
they
could
provide
along
500
south
and
then
with
blair
street,
just
due
to
the
narrow
lot
there.
R
They
have
wrapped
some
active
use
here
and
at
the
rear.
This
is
where
the
bike,
storage
and
the
bike
shop
is
bike
repair
shop,
but
this
central
area
here
is
all
just
metal
mesh
screening
to
allow
for
the
ventilation
of
the
parking
area,
and
so
again
it
reduces
both
the
active
uses
along
the
ground
floor
and
moving
to
the
next
item.
The
glass
along
the
ground
floor.
R
R
So
you
have
explanation
in
your
staff
report
on
the
specific
standards
for
design
review,
but
most
of
them
relate
to
creating
a
building
that
has
a
human
scale
to
it
and
that
any
impacts,
negative
impacts
being
mitigated.
R
So
in
looking
at
this
staff
felt
that
it
did
in
fact
have
a
human
scale
to
it,
with
a
very
distinct
base,
middle
and
top
section
of
the
building
kind
of
those
classic
proportions,
and
then
just
the
way
they've
used
awnings
along
the
first
floor
here
and
the
balconies
and
the
brick
along
the
base
and
the
brick
detailing
above
the
windows
really
kind
of,
brings
things
down
and
gives
a
good
human
scale
to
the
building
and
also
the
roof
line
is
meant
to
kind
of
recall
the
very
prominent
floating
roof
line
of
the
public
safety
building.
R
R
You
know
the
articulation
in
the
building
the
use
of
a
variety
of
materials
and
kind
of
these
balconies,
and
these
changes
in
planes
and
surfaces
felt
really
kind
of
brought
down
the
scale
this
building
and
made
it
feel
to
a
human
scale
and
then,
of
course,
along
those
same
lines
and
the
standards
look
at
ways
that
there's
still
pedestrian
interest
in
interaction,
and,
I
will
say,
along
blair,
street
staff,
really
felt
that
was
far
less
important.
One,
the
sidewalks
not
going
to
be
up
against
building
two
there's
such
limited
access
there.
R
It's
not
really
an
encouraged
pedestrian
space.
This
really
functions.
It
seems
more
like
an
interior
side
yard
in
in
some
ways,
but
out
towards
the
street.
You
know
this
does
still
have
a
large
amount
of
glass
and
then,
of
course,
the
building
has
you
know,
good
design
features
that
are
still
pedestrian,
friendly
and
and
also
these
openings
here
for
the
parking
garage.
Although
they're,
not
you
know
your
typical
glass,
of
course,
they
will
have
light
shining
through
they're,
not
entirely
dead
space.
R
It
does
look
in
to
a
space
and
will
add
some
friendliness
to
people
that
do
go
down
blair
street,
but
again
some
of
the
the
along
500
south,
the
brick
detailing
the
lighting,
the
active
space
that
they
have
provided.
R
We
felt
that
that
was
it
does
still
accomplish
the
pedestrian
interest
desired
and
stop
from
the
design
review.
R
R
In
looking
at
the
plan
development,
of
course,
the
first
thing
is
they
need
to
meet
one
of
the
at
least
one
of
the
objectives
for
a
planned
development
and
provide
a
a
better
product
than
could
otherwise
be
accomplished,
and
here
staff
felt
that
they
they
meet.
Three
of
those
objectives
in
housing,
mobility
and
the
master
plan,
implementation.
R
So
these
are
two
bedroom
apartments
and
but
they
have,
instead
of
just
you
know,
a
master
bedroom
and
a
one.
That's
smaller
that
both
are
our
master
bedrooms
and
what
that
really
is
intended
to
do
is
to
facilitate
split
rent
and
that
both
you
know
roommates
would
have
you
know
large
master
bedrooms
and
and
be
able,
you
know
and
have
a
more
affordable
product
in
in
being
able
to
split
rent.
R
In
looking
at
plan
development
standards,
first,
looking
again
at
their
request,
they're
looking
an
additional
five
feet
of
building
height
and
really
that
the
five
feet
of
building
height
is,
would
be
to
accommodate
this
kind
of
floating
roof
structure
and
staff
felt
that
was
appropriate
as
it's
again
kind
of
related
to
the
public,
safety
building
and
kind
of
provides
a
some
compatibility
and
then
a
visual
step
down
from
the
taller
buildings
to
the
north
and
to
the
west
towards
buildings
or
potential
buildings
to
the
east
and
himself
they're
requesting
a
modification
of
this
rare
yard
setback.
R
You
can
see
here
they're
requesting
10
feet
where
30
would
be
required
again.
This
allows
them
to
have
more
dwelling
units
provide
more
parking.
You
know
provide
that
bike,
service
area
and
bike
wash
area
and
staff
felt
this
was
appropriate
and
it
was
still
compatible
with
neighboring
development
as
immediately
to
the
rear
of
the
property
as
a
surface
parking
lot
for
the
public
safety
building
and
really
there's
not
any
particular
impacts
that
would
be
created
by
setting
this
even
further
back.
R
There's
sufficient
yard
area
there's
open
space
provided
on
the
second
floor
and
the
top
floor
of
the
building,
and
you
know,
and
and
they've,
given
a
plan
for
all
their
maintenance
and
for
utilities
and
everything
fits
fine
within
the
setbacks,
and
we
felt
this
was
an
appropriate
compromise
and
was
still
at
the
scale
of
neighboring
development
and
then
last
was
to
allow
for
balconies
you'll,
see
here
the
balconies
and
this
awning
structure
here
and
here
and
this
roof
cantilever
to
encroach
into
the
required
setbacks.
R
So
this
again,
they
wouldn't
be
going
into
it's
just
their
setbacks,
not
across
property
lines.
R
R
And
then
the
last
two
things
just
again,
they
will
need
to
combine
the
parcels
which
they're
working
on
and
a
final
plan
for
signage
has
not
been
proposed
and
are
finalized,
and
so
they
would
need
to
do
that
with
staff.
So
staff
is
recommending
approval
based
on
the
following
conditions.
Garage
doors
include
transparent
panels
for
at
least
fifty
percent
of
the
width
between
three
and
eight
feet
from
the
ground
parcels
be
combined
prior
to
beginning
construction
and
a
final
approval
for
the
signage
be
delegated
to
staff,
to
review
in
accordance
with
adopted
standards
and
ordinances.
E
Yeah,
I
just
have
a
question
and
it's
more
of
a
procedural
one
than
anything
else
eric.
It
looks
like
we're
being
asked
to
make
a
determination
based
on
both
a
planned
development
and
a
design
review,
and
I'm
wondering-
and
this
is
related
to
our
last
item
on
the
agenda-
why
these
aren't
separated
into
two
different
motions
given
they
appear
to.
Potentially,
we
could
reach
a
different
conclusion
on
the
two
items.
R
Yeah,
I
suppose
they
could
be
they.
The
plan
development
could
again
could
not
be
approved
without
the
modifications
in
the
design
review,
I
suppose,
and
so
and
then
yeah
they
I
mean
this
design
couldn't
move
forward
without
both
because
of
the
height
and
the
design.
So
if
one,
if
one
doesn't
go
through,
I
guess
you
know
the
other
one's
off
the
table
automatically.
C
Any
other
questions
for
staff
right
now;
okay,
so
it
seems
we
have
two
two
people
here
for
the
applicant
lee
dial
and
zach
jones,
which
one
of
you
which
one
of
you
needs,
needs
we've
got
some
feedback.
M
G
M
Now,
you're,
muted,
now,
okay,
perfect,
sorry
we're
having
a
little
trouble
with
the
webex
but
yeah,
so
I'm
zach
jones,
but
I'm
gonna.
Let
scott
stafford
here
start
us
off
and
then
we'll
pick
it
up.
We
don't
not
to
take
too
much
here.
I.
Q
Just
logged
in
with
zach
we're
hanging
out
here
in
a
conference
room,
but
my
name
is
scott.
Safford.
I've
been
a
partner
from
the
very
beginning
at
cowboy
partners
been
with
cowboy
partners
before
was
cowboy
partners,
but
I've
been
a
part
with
dan
lofgren
and
mark
cornelius
for
almost
23
years
now,
cowboy
partners,
I
think
you're
I
mean
I'd
I'd,
assume
that
you're,
probably
aware
of
our
company
we've
done
a
lot
of
business
in
downtown
salt
lake.
We
just
actually
finished
the
liberty
sky
project
at
151,
south
main
street.
Q
Q
We
finished
liberty
crest,
a
few
years
ago,
up
on
7th
east,
we
just
finished
liberty,
boulevard
on
the
affordable
side,
we've
done
liberty,
city,
walk
down
there,
liberty,
metro,
liberty,
midtown,
we
hold
a
number
of
projects
in
downtown
salt
lake
city
and
we
like
very
much
developing
and
building
projects
in
downtown
salt
lake.
It's
been
a
it's
been
one
of
our
sweet
spots
as
we've
done
development,
but
we
like
this
project
as
we
continue
to
try
to
build
compelling
places
for
people
to
live
in
downtown.
Q
We
kind
of
came
up
with
this
idea
going
back
a
little
bit
to
your
conversation
earlier
tonight
when
you
were
talking
with
jim
wood,
and
I
sit
on
the
salt
lake
home
builders.
Association
board
with
jim
woods
and
he's
always
always
has
very
interesting
information
in
those
meetings.
Q
So
we
looked
at
this
project
to
do
a
project
that
is
all
two-bedroom
units
and
we
saw
the
benefit
in
a
number
of
ways:
one
trying
to
serve
a
need
in
downtown
salt
lake
city,
the
need
for
two
bedroom
units.
When
again
everything
else
is
studios
and
two
bed
or
one
bedrooms,
but
also,
as
we've
had
the
discussion
tonight
about
affordability.
Q
All
the
all
the
programs
for
affordable
housing,
they're
tapped
out
they're
used,
yet
we
still
need
to
create
ways
to
create
affordable
housing
and
and
affordable
housing
isn't
necessarily
low-income
housing,
it's
affordable,
housing
so
by
doing
54
units
of
two-bedroom
units,
which
is
where
the
name
comes
from
liberty,
duet,
because
it's
all
two-bedroom
units,
because
we
felt
like
we
could
provide
a
project
that
would
allow
roommate
situation
which
would
make
living.
I
mean
we
had
this
discussion
about
the
project
before,
but
this
is
this:
is
your
choice?
Q
It's
two
bedroom
units
you
can
find
a
roommate
and
and
have
an
affordable
option
to
live
in
downtown
salt
lake
and
then
also,
if
you're,
a
couple
and
you
want
an
office
or
you
have
a
child,
there's
an
option
for
that
in
a
two-bedroom
unit
as
well.
Q
M
Yeah,
I
know,
and
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone
here
for
your
time
and
eric
especially
you've
been
super
great
to
work
with
throughout
this
process.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
yeah
in
the
preliminary
design
stage
of
this
community,
we
went
around
to
our
property
managers
and
we're
asking
them
what
are
what
are
the
needs?
M
What
are
you
hearing
from
residents
and
prospective
residents,
and
we
just
got
an
overwhelming
sense
of
demand
for
two
bedroom
units
and
so
that
really
that
really
drove
our
our
design
here,
as
as
scott
talked
about,
and
so
ultimately,
the
community
will
provide
a
housing
we'll
provide
housing
at
a
time
when
housing
is
is
desperately
needed
and
two
bedroom
units
are
desperately
needed.
M
So
to
give
you
a
quick
history
of
the
site,
the
freshman
family,
who
used
to
own
this
site,
many
of
you
may
or
may
not
know
them-
were
the
operators
and
owners
of
the
freshman
jewelry
store
for
many
many
years,
and
since
you
know
in
the
last
couple
years,
they've
closed,
they've
closed
up
shop
and
the
site
has
sat
vacant
since
then,
and
that
may
be
because
the
building
is
quite
specialized.
M
M
There
are
no
windows
on
the
building
which
again
just
makes
it
difficult
to
to
repurpose
for
another
site,
so
we've
determined
that
the
existing
building
is
no
longer
its
highest
and
best
use
and
would
actually
make
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
enhance
the
the
site
and
the
community
around
by
bringing
a
new
by
bringing
new
activity
to
the
activity
to
the
street
and
provides
desperately
needed
housing
with
our
54
unit
multi-family
community
project.
M
So
our
plan
is
to
demolish
the
existing
building,
enhance
the
site
around
in
the
neighborhood,
with
an
active
and
awesome
multi-family
community.
So
we
intend
to
own
and
operate
this
community
for
the
long
term
as
owner
operators
of
cowboy
partners
and
its
sister
company
cowboy
properties.
M
M
The
design,
review
and
plan
development
process
should
result
in
a
more
enhanced
product
by
implementing
the
city's
vision
for
growth,
encouraging
efficient
use
of
land
and
resources,
promoting
greater
efficiency
in
public
and
utility
services,
and
encouraging
innovative
planning
and
development
and
reinforcing
the
character
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
and
I
believe
that,
through
working
with
eric
and
the
planning
staff,
we
have
accomplished
that
and
we've
kept
that
in
the
forefront
of
our
minds
throughout
this
process.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
questions
from
commissioners
to
the
applicant
at
this
time.
C
Okay,
if
you
guys
want
to
hang
tight,
we'll
open
the
public
comment
period
and
and
then,
if
anything
comes
up
that
you
need
to
address
I'll.
Let
you
have
time
to
do
that.
Okay,
let's
open
the
public
comment
period.
I
see
that
we
have
two
hands
raised
kelsey
if
we
want
to.
G
Yeah,
let
me
start
with
keenan
keenan
wells,
your
hand,
you're
unneeded.
I
O
I
Could
I
get
an
answer
as
to
why
these
guys
did
parking
right
were
required
to
do
parking
right,
but
bueno
wasn't.
C
I
C
Will
you
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
for
me?
Oh.
C
Might
have
been
a
leftover,
any
written
comments,
no
not
at
this
time.
Okay,
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
comment
period.
I
will
echo
mr
wells's
comments,
great
job
eric,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
and
I
think
I'll
just
give
it
to
the
applicant.
If
you
want
to
just
address
like
what
went
into
your
thoughts
on
your
parking,
that
would
be.
Q
Q
So
that
was
was
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
rocket
science
we
pushed
to
get
as
many
stalls
as
we
could
and
tried
to
get
it
to
a
number
as
good
or
better
than
what
we
see
of
utilization
in
other
projects
downtown.
E
Commissioner,
barry
can
I
just
bring
up,
and
I
know
nobody
actually
wants
to
talk
about
items
outside
of
our
limited
agenda,
because
it
is
so
incredibly
long.
But
parking
is
something
that
seems
to
keep
coming
up
over
and
over
and
over
in
so
many
projects.
And
I'm
wondering
if
we
can't
have
an
open
business
item
where
we
address
this
more
broadly,
because
it's.
E
C
I
appreciate
that
I
have
brought
up
to
nick.
In
addition,
you
know
some
items
for
education
in
addition
to
what
we
heard
tonight
and
one
of
those
was
for
us
to
better
understand
the
true
cost
of
parking
and
how
it
relates
to
developments.
E
C
Can
always
do
that
via
email
as
well.
Send
me
an
email
okay,
but
yes,
I
hear
what
you're
saying.
Okay,
any
other
brings
us
to
the
commission
for
discussion.
Any
discussion
to
this
project
yeah.
E
D
Do
but
so
I
I
appreciate
this
project
a
great
deal
and
I'm
happy
with
most
things
about
it.
There
are
two
things
that
are
actually
part
of
them
would
not
generally
be
something
I
would
want
to
see
in
a
planned
development.
The
first
is
that
there's
a
potential
of
losing
two
significant
trees
and
I'm
going
to
ask
that
the
planning
commission
actually
look
at
page
38
of
their
30.
D
They're
allowed
to
go
five
feet,
there's
no
question
about
that.
That's
not
even
been!
That's
not
been
on
our
agenda
and
it's
not
something
we
can
rule
on.
However,
in
order
to
save
these
two
big
trees
and
to
comply
more
with
the
streetscape,
that's
already
a
part
of
this
block
which
has
these
bigger
lawns
on
it.
D
I
am
wondering
if
the
developer
would
be
willing
to
move
the
building
back
to
so
that
there
is
a
zero
setback
on
the
rear
front,
rear
setback
line,
because
there's
really
nothing
back
there,
you
just
you
just
you're,
going
to
end
up
with
a
philly
10
foot
wide,
very
shaded
green
lonnie
thing
where
the
dogs
are
going
to
go,
you
know,
and
rather
than
if
we
are
willing
to
do
that,
then
we
can
add
that
to
the
frontage
of
the
building
front,
step
back,
bring
it
into
compliance
with
the
rest
of
the
street
and
have
large
and
really
have
much
better
chance
of
preserving
these
large
trees
in
the
tree.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
D
Q
Safety
building
came
in
and
said
they
wouldn't
they'd,
give
a
ten
foot
easement
to
or
a
no
build
easement
for
10
feet.
Then
we
could
push
back
to
the
back
and
we
wouldn't
we'd
have
no
problem
with
that.
But
you'd
have
to
have
a
10
foot
easement
from
the
from
the
public
safety
and
parking
lot
for
not
building
because
of
the
fire
code.
Q
Q
My
only
issue
with
that
is
that
we'd
like
to
get
going
with
it-
and
I
think
you
could
end
up
in
that
for
months
because
they
have
to
go
through
a
public
process.
Wouldn't
it
and
and
even
though
we're
going
to
lose
some
trees
out
front,
we're
going
to
come
back
out
and
and
replant
with
trees,
I
mean
we.
We
need
it
to
look
nice
too.
D
Yeah,
but
let
me
let
me,
but
let
me
quote
from
the
from
the
outer
staff
report,
which,
which
you
know
is
very
clear,
that
losing
those
trees
is,
is
an
issue,
and
so
the
department
review
says,
although
not
specifically
stated
on
the
planet,
it
appears
that
they
intend
to
remove
all
existing
trees
on
the
property,
including
the
two
public
right-of-way
maple
trees
on
500
south
and
replace
them
with
three
little
two-inch
zelkova.
D
D
I
might
also
point
out
to
you
that
one
of
the
requirements
of
a
plan
development
does
that
comply
with
d1,
which
is
landscaping
and
she's,
in
which
reads
whether
maturity
native
trees,
located
along
the
periphery
of
the
property
and
along
the
street,
are
preserved
and
made.
D
Q
I
didn't
hear
the
last
part,
but
zach
said
that
we
could
keep
one
of
those
trees.
We
just
have
to
trim
it
back
quite
a
bit.
The
other
one
is
actually
in
the
dry
vial.
So
even
if
we
push
the
building
back,
we'd
lose
one
of
them,
but
we
could.
We
could
work
to
trim
to
keep
the
other
one.
We
just
have
to
trim
it
back.
I
think
it's
pretty
bushy
tree.
C
Any
other
comments
from
commissioners
andrew.
E
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion-
oh
okay,
given
the
the
late
hour
and
that
we
have
reviewed
this.
We
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
this
so
based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
design,
review
and
plan
development
requests
for
the
liberty
duet
project,
located
at
approximately
353
east
500
south
for
petitions,
pln
pcm,
2021-01109.
E
Subject
or
complying
with
the
following
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
garage
doors
include
transparent
panels
for
at
least
fifty
percent
of
the
width
between
three
feet
and
eight
feet
from
the
ground.
Two.
The
parcels
be
combined
prior
to
beginning
construction
and
three
final
privilege:
approval
for
signage,
be
delegated
to
staff,
to
review
in
accordance
with
adopted
standards
and
ordinances.
C
We
can't
do
that,
so
I
do
have
a
motion
from
andra
and
a
second
from
mike
any
discussion
to
this
motion
from
commissioners.
F
C
D
You
know
I
I'm.
I
am
not
to
say
that
I
think
the
fact
that
it's
late
at
night
does
not
give
us
allow
us
to
disregard
the
requirements
of
a
project.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
now.
E
A
T
C
Okay,
that
motion
passes
six
to
one
cowboy
partners,
you're
good
to
move
forward
on
that.
Q
C
I
think
I
think
transparent
is
is
in
the
weeds
that
I
don't
think
the
commissioners
are
going
to
really
weigh
in
on
so
yeah.
Please
work
that
out
with
eric
to
get
what
you
need.
C
Okay!
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you.
I
am
going
to
apologize
to
everybody
who
is
still
remaining.
I
appreciate
everyone's
patience,
but
I
think
we
all
need
a
five-minute
break
again.
So
please
be
prompted
and
come
back
at
9
19
right,
69,
no
yeah,
919
and.
I
I
C
J
All
right
good
evening,
commissioners,
the
project
I'm
presenting
is
located
again
at
218
west
300,
south
the
applicant
is
jeff
douglas
with
access
architects
and
they
are
also
here
to
present
tonight.
The
applicant
is
requesting
design
review
approval
buildings
taller
than
75
feet,
but
less
than
90
feet
may
be
authorized
through
the
design
review
process.
J
J
J
Excuse
me,
poplar
street
pub
to
the
south
and
across
the
street
are
the
plato
apartments.
I
hope
I'm
seeing
that
quickly
to
the
west
is
the
historic
three-story
broadway
hotel,
building
built
in
1912,
which
is
currently
used
as
an
apartment
building
and
to
the
east
is
bukuta
beppo
italian
restaurant.
J
J
Whereas
the
upper
floor
uses
are
residential,
the
number
of
units
in
the
building
is
46
and
the
commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor
is
a
thousand
square
feet
and
the
exterior
materials,
a
cement,
paneling,
glass,
perforated
metal
within
the
building
is
23
interior
stalls,
16,
bicycle
parking
stalls
and
I'll
just
move
forward
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process
I
threw
in
the
material
sheet
and
the
building
materials
again
include
concrete
fibersmith
paneling,
which
is
light
gray,
decorative,
preferred
perforated,
paneling,
dark,
grey
metal,
concrete
masonry,
fiber,
cement
and
glass,
which
are
all
listed
as
high
quality
materials.
J
The
building
also
has
a
rooftop
balcony
and
patio
area
with
a
large.
You
know
it's
going
to
have
large
plants
and
seating
for
residents.
This
is
also
being
used
to
meet
their
open
space
requirement.
J
Taking
a
look
at
the
site
plan,
the
parking
garage
is
going
to
be
rear,
loaded
from
200
west.
This
project
is
located
on
an
existing
alloy,
but
not
on
a
proposed
mid
block.
Walkway.
There
is
one
near
it.
The
applicant
is
proposing
new
hardscape
improvements
for
the
alleyway
and
access
to
the
parking
garage.
The
alleyway
is
private
and
has
a
shared
access.
Easement.
J
I
want
to
go
back
really
quickly.
There
also
is
a
large.
There
are
going
to
be
large
trees
that
will
be
planted
across
along
the
street
frontage
to
provide
shade
and
there
will
possibly
be
a
short
sitting
area
just
outside
of
the
commercial
space.
They
just
need
to
go
through
real
estate
services
for
that
approval,
on
the
key
consideration
for
this
application
are
the
standards
of
review,
including
the
master
plan,
the
d3
development
standards
and
meeting
the
standards
at
21
859.
J
J
Therefore,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
application,
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
Do
you
guys
have
any
questions
or
comments
from
me.
C
Thank
you,
megan.
Any
questions
for
staff.
C
Okay,
kelsey
in
the
attendees
list
is
one
of
the
applicants.
Pierre
longue,
if
you
could.
C
Yeah,
so
we've
got
derek
allen
and
jeff
douglas
as
well,
and.
P
C
C
Okay,
you
guys
have
10
minutes,
go
ahead.
H
All
right,
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you,
megan.
This
is
derek
allen
with
landforge,
as
you
mentioned,
I'm
joined
with
my
colleagues
pierre
long
and
jeff
douglas
from
access.
Architects,
we'll
keep
our
presentation
short
as
megan
hit
the
highlights
and
really
our
project
by
most
every
measure
conforms
to
the
buy
right
listings
within
the
zoning
that
exists
for
this
downtown
residential
district.
H
H
There
is
a
short
mid-block
break
on
poplar
court
which
surrounds
the
project
immediately
to
the
west,
and
then
we
have
a
break
across
the
back
of
the
property
in
a
right-of-way
easement
which
has
been
dedicated
and
is
heavily
used
by
not
only
us
but
by
businesses
to
the
north.
H
Given
that
this
is
a
shared
space,
we've
been
in
close
communication
with
several
of
our
neighbors
to
make
sure
that
we've
received
their
support
for
the
project
which
we've
ultimately
designed
and
presented
to
you
here
today
when
taking
a
step
back
further
from
the
immediate
site
you
can
see
in
this
exhibit
here.
It
shows
in
blue
and
green.
H
Just
a
number
of
the
buildings
that
already
exist
or
are
proposed
and
under
construction
now
and
you'll,
see
that
our
development
from
a
height
from
a
masking
standpoint
is
significantly
significantly
smaller
than
most
all
recent
buildings
in
its
proximity,
but
also
from
a
height
standpoint.
It's
also
not
only
consistent,
but
a
little
bit
lower
than
many
of
those
structures.
H
If
we
were
to
take
this
same
image
and
rotate
it
and
look
to
the
east,
we
all
know
that
we're
only
a
block
away
from
the
downtown
core
of
the
business
district
and
we're
looking
at
much
larger
buildings
in
that
location
to
go
further
into
the
design
itself
and
how
we
feel
like
this
context
is
appropriate.
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
turn
some
time
over
to
pierre
with
access,
architects.
P
P
We
realized
that
from
different
angles
and
at
different
heights
of
this
site
you
would
perceive
the
site
differently
and
the
views
of
downtown,
and
so
we
started
playing
with
the
idea
of
of
different
angles,
different
directions
for
the
views
and
designing
the
project
as
if
they
were
a
succession
of
of
views
and
ultimately
our
aperture
actually
became
the
name
of
the
project.
So
all
these
different
apertures
became
really
important.
P
H
Thanks
pierre,
just
a
couple
of
screen
images
here,
walking
through
what
pierre
was
referring
to
with
the
way
these
angled
architectural
elements
which
protrude
from
the
interior
living
space
of
the
structure
itself
play
with
light
with
shade
with
shadow
and
not
only
maintain
that
street
wall,
which
was
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting
tonight,
but
also
create
a
play
on
that
street
wall
through
the
fenestration
and
the
articulation
in
the
vertical
plane.
H
As
you
move
up
through
the
building
and
also
horizontally
across
it,
we
felt
like
that
was
something
important
not
only
to
offer
from
the
inside.
Looking
out,
as
pierre
mentioned,
we
started
with
this
design,
but
from
the
exterior
looking
at
the
structure
itself,
it's
going
to
read
differently
throughout
the
day
and
throughout
the
season,
as
the
sun
plays
on
this
structure
in
different
ways,
and
we
hope,
within
that
context,
we're
actually
going
to
be
able
to
create
something.
H
C
Thank
you,
commissioners.
Any
questions
for
the
applicant.
C
Okay,
you
guys
want
to
hold
tight,
we'll
come
back
to
you
after
the
public
comment
period
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
that
up
and
kelsey
do.
You
looks
like
we
have
at
least
one.
O
Hello
still
here
yeah,
so
I
realize
you
guys
can't
make
a
decision
on
this.
But
when
I
see
only
half
the
number
of
parking
spots,
but
we
have
16
bike
stalls,
it
would
be
nice
to.
I
Have
at
least
a
bike
stall
to
replace
each
parking
spot
building
looks
very
pretty
but
again
from
just
a
person
living
their
standpoint.
If
I'm
going
to
replace
my
car
with
a
bike,
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
place
to
park
it
for
each
unit.
C
Okay,
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
comments
period
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commissioners.
C
D
H
Sure
this
is
a
mechanical
parking
system
for
a
portion
of
the
vehicles
inside
the
parking
structure.
It's
something
we
included
in
our
silicon
valley
projects
on
multiple
occasions
and
they're,
not
stackers.
One
of
the
problems
with
stackers
when
thinking
about
parking
is
what
do
you
do
with
the
vehicles
that
are
beneath
it
or
around
it?
They're,
essentially,
a
form
of
tandem
parking
which
don't
yield
additional
efficiencies
when
it
comes
to
parking.
H
H
H
There's
other
considerations
that
go
into
it.
If
you
can't
tell
we've,
we've
implemented
this
system
multiple
times,
so
we've
gone
through
the
learning
curve
and
we
have
a
pretty
good
sense
of
of
what
needs
to
be
done
to
make
it
effective
both
for
users
who
are
accustomed
to
traditional
at
great
parking,
as
well
as
future
proofing
power
outage
proofing
and
everything
else.
That
goes
along
with
making
sure
that
people's
car
is
there
when
they
need
it,
that
it's
safe
and
that
it's
charged.
C
E
E
All
right,
no
seriously.
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
make
a
motion
based
on
the
information
in
this
staff
report.
The
planning
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
approval
subject
to
complying
with
all
applicable
regulations
and
the
conditions
below
final
approval
of
the
plan
shall
be
delegated
to
planning
staff,
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
zoning
standards
and
conditions
of
approval,
including
signage
and
lighting
condition.
Two
approval
is
for
the
specific
items
discussed
and
identifying
the
staff
report.
N
E
E
D
It
says,
based
on
the
information,
the
staff
report,
the
planning
staff
recommends,
as
opposed
to.
E
J
E
D
E
C
H
C
I
C
J
C
Andra,
yes,
amy,
yes,
okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all.
Congratulations,
applicant
team
and
you're
good
to
go.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
our
last
item,
it
is
the
southern
highlands
apartments
design
review
at
approximately
913
927
south
400
west.
This
is
case
number
pln
pcm.
O
O
O
O
O
Here's
a
rendering
of
the
project
seen
as
roughly
from
the
southwest
corner.
So
you
see
the
articulation
on
the
street
conceptual
art
on
the
building
and
we
don't.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
we
don't
have
a
final
design
on
that.
O
Yet,
but
a
deep
courtyard
in
the
middle
glass
with
active
spaces
along
the
ground
floor
that
include
a
lobby,
a
gym,
a
leasing,
office
meal
room
and
a
some
commercial
spaces,
and
you
do
see
the
balconies
that
provide
idol
eyes
on
the
street
on
400
west,
a
picture
of
your
of
the
site
site
plan.
These,
of
course,
are
included
in
more
detail
in
your
staff
report
packet,
but
it
shows
where
trees
will
be
located
both
along
900,
south
and
400
west,
and
then
the
landscaping
on
the
site.
O
The
parcel
notably
has
this
kind
of
jog,
so
it
gets
much
narrower
at
one
end
because
of
the
railway
line
behind
it
or
abandoned
railway
right
away
behind
it.
One
of
the
things
since
it's
going
through
design
review,
they
have
to
provide
additional
landscaping
up
to
10
percent
of
the
additional
floor
or
10
percent
of
the
additional
flora
area
is
not
up
to,
and
that
has
been
accommodated
on
the
site.
O
Just
as
a
reminder,
you
did
see
if
this
looks
familiar,
you've
seen
a
previous
version
of
this
project.
Just
under
a
year
ago.
I'm
calling
it
ostensibly
version
1.0
and
you're
now
seeing
version
2.0.
O
The
previous
version
was
104
units
and
it
included
the
larger
parcel
at
927,
south
400
west.
Only
they
added
additional
property
after
they
got
their
approval,
making
the
larger
combined
site,
which
provides
frontage
on
both
900,
south
and
400
west.
So
it's
an
expanded
version
of
the
project
with
153
units.
It
has
to
go
back
through
the
design
review
process
for
planning
commission
approval
as
a
new
request,
not
as
a
modification.
O
So
you
have
seen
this
before
and
approved
a
smaller
version
of
it
previously
site.
Context.
Here
is
a
kind
of
a
bleak
aerial
photo.
You
have
the
two
parcels
being
shown
here:
400
west,
just
to
the
northwest.
You
have
the
voa
homeless,
resource
youth,
homeless,
resource
center
and
the
salt
lake
city
fleet
block
on
the
other
side
of
900
south
and
then
what
we've
labeled
unused
railway
corridor.
This
eventually
crosses
300
west,
a
little
farther
south
and
then
continues
up
this
400
west
alignment.
O
It
again
has
long
been
discussed
as
a
probable
alignment
for,
what's
known
as
a
tracks,
expansion
on
the
orange
line
corridor
from
uta-
that's
not
reality
yet,
but
we're
aware
that
that
will
eventually
most
likely
become
a
trax
line
through
the
granary
standards
of
the
of
review.
There's
the
base
zoning
standards
for
the
cg
or
general
commercial
zoning
district.
O
The
project
meets
those
there's.
The
general
design
standards
in
chapter
21a,
37
and
cg.
The
cg
zoning
district
doesn't
have
many
design
standards
other
than
having
parking
lot
lighting
and
an
operable
entrance
on
each
street
facing
elevation.
But
since
it's
going
through
design
review,
it
is
subject
to
this
more
stringent
standards.
O
Compliance
with
standards.
The
pro
proposed
development
is
supported
by
city
plans
and
policies.
It
won't
be
incompatible
with
adjacent
development
and
it
does
comply
with
those
base.
Zoning
standards
for
the
cg
zoning
district,
those
general
design
standards
and
the
standards
for
design
review
so
based
on
that
staff,
is
finds
that
the
project
meets
the
design
review
standards
and
is
recommending.
C
Thanks
david,
any
questions
for
staff
at
this
time.
A
A
No,
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
david
did
a
wonderful
job
and
I'm
hoping
that,
as
he
mentioned,
having
most
of
you
that
I
recognize
seeing
this
project
before
we
took
all
of
your
comments
and
really
introduced
them
into
this
new
design.
A
As
we
had
mentioned
in
our
previous
application
before
you,
we
had
tried
to
acquire
that
corner
lot.
While
we
were
going
through
the
process
and
it
was
actually
under
contract
and
they
were
working
with
another
buyer.
That
contract
then
fell
out
after
we
got
our
approvals.
We
quickly
jumped
in
and
came
and
grabbed
that
piece.
A
It's
it's
a
great
addition.
It's
it's
0.22
of
an
acre.
So
if
it
was
to
stand
alone,
it
would
have
been
it
would
have
had
a
hard
time
coming
up
with
the
highest
and
best
use
on
that
property.
So
I
I
really
do
think
that
acquiring
that
property
is
only
going
to
make
that
corner
more
beautiful.
We
have
we've
added
more.
A
Excuse
me
storefront
to
the
project,
we're
excited
it's
a
similar
design,
as
mentioned
similar
height
requests
that
we're
asking
we're
still
parking
at
a
one-to-one
ratio.
We
actually
that's
again
the
reason
coming
out
of
the
ground.
The
three
levels
of
parking
the
zone
doesn't
require
that
much
parking,
but
we
believe
it's
necessary.
A
C
Okay,
any
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time.
C
Okay,
mr
garza,
hang
tight,
we'll
go
through
the
public
comment
period
and
come
back
to
you.
Let's
officially
open
the
public
comment
period
and
see
if
we
have
anybody
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item,.
C
Give
us
your
name
again.
Sorry.
C
Thank
you
for
your
comments
and
thank
you
for
sticking
through
this
evening.
Yeah,
it's
been
a
long
one,
any
written
comments.
Kelsey!
No,
commissioner,
barry
okay.
I
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
comment
period
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
for
a
discussion
or
of
motion.
O
I
would
just
for
the
record
commissioner:
barry,
I
mean
sorry
sure,
gerald
berry.
We
did
not
get
any
public
written
comments
on
this
one.
On
the
previous
version,
we
only
got
one,
and
this
was
resent
to
the
community
organizations,
of
course,
and
no.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
okay,
commissioners.
Any
anybody
want
to
speak
up
yeah.
D
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
facade
on
900
south
because
in
fact
it's
a
pretty
lousy
facade,
and
that
is
the
major
street
frontage
for
this
property.
The
the
the
lovely
graphic.
D
However,
it's
done
is
actually
on
the
southern
part
of
the
building
which,
where
there
is
not
a
lot
of
that's
not
really
the
frontage
I
mean
of
this
building
so
and
the
eastern
facade
is,
is
very
interesting
and
has
a
lot
of
good
things
going
on
for
it
is
it
western
sorry,
it's
western
facade,
yeah.
D
The
west
elevation
is
interesting
and
has
a
lot
of
things
going
on
for
it,
but
the
the
part
people
will
actually
see
on
900
south
looks
a
lot
like
the
side
of
a
building,
so
I
am
concerned
about
that
and
wanting
to
see
much
more
of
the
sense
of
what's
going
on
on
the
west
elevation
on
the
north
elevation.
C
Okay,
mr
carson,
did
you
want
to.
A
I
might
turn
to
jory
walker,
maybe
offer
some
insight
on
the
architect
texture
side
of
things.
A
I
Are
you
on
I'm
here,
yeah,
hey
guys?
No,
we
talked
about
that.
We
were
trying
to
decide
which
streetscape
should
have
the
mural,
and
how
should
we
deal
with
that?
I
think
we're
open
to
suggestions
and
if
you
think
that
corner
is
more
important
to
have
some
murals
and
some
some
more
stuff.
D
D
Well,
that's
the
part
that
faces
900
west,
which
is
the
part
that
900
sorry,
sorry
900
south
is
developing.
It's
developing
as
a
new
ninth
and
ninth.
D
I
Like
we're
trying
to
figure
that
piece
out
because
we're
trying
to
figure
out,
where
is
the
front
door
and
we're
thinking
well,
maybe
this
is
and
because
we're
trying
to
look
at
what's
existing,
but
maybe
in
the
future.
Probably
that
might
be
the
front
door
and
we
were
more
than
comfortable
with
even
moving
the
mural
to
that
area.
A
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
misunderstood
the
question.
I
I
thought
you
were
talking
more
about
the
architecture
yeah
if
it's
simply
reapplying
where
that
mural
is
to
go,
that
I'm
very
comfortable
well,.
I
I
D
D
C
Commissioners,
any
other
comments
or
questions,
or
if
commissioner
shear
would
like
to
make
a
motion
with
yeah.
Additionally,.
C
D
D
Approximately
913
and
927
south
400
west
file,
pln
pcm
2021-00929,
with
the
conditions
of
approval
listed
in
the
staff
report
delegated
to
staff
for
verification
during
the
building
permit
review
and
the
conditions
are
listed
below
one
through
four,
and
I
would
like
to
add
condition
number
five:
that
the
north
elevation
of
the
building
be
required
to
have
a
greater
length
of
storefront
and
a
mural
in
order
to
provide
a
better
pedestrian
experience
along
900
south
I'll.
C
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
from
brenda
and
a
second
from
mike.
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
on
that
maureen.
I
C
A
I
C
Okay,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you.
The
applicant
can
move
forward
on
your
project.
Congratulations!
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
patience
tonight.
It's
been
a
long
day.
I
actually
drove
back
from
st
george
this
morning
for
this
meeting,
so
I
totally
understand
how
everybody
is
dragging
I
I
do
want
to
reiterate.
If
you
ever
have
thoughts
or
ideas
for
future
meetings
and
et
cetera
things
you
want
to
learn,
please
feel
free
to
email
me.