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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - February 23, 2022
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - February 23, 2022
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https://www.slc.gov/planning/planning-commission-agendas-minutes/
A
A
A
B
C
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Bachmann.
Thanks
to
all
those
who
are
in
attendance,
it
looks
like
we
have
a
pretty
large
number
of
attendees
today,
so
we'll
get
started
and
get
this
meeting
moving.
C
If
you
look
at
the
screen
in
front
of
you,
it
can
tell
you
how
you're
able
to
join
with
us
and
participate
here
if
at
any
point
in
time,
you're
having
any
trouble.
We
do
have
people
monitoring
the
email
list
or
email
address
so
on
our
email
address,
planning
comments
at
slcgov.com.
C
C
C
Page
if,
for
some
reason,
your
audio
is
not
working.
If
you
look
at
the
screen
here,
some
screen
will
pop
up
and
if
you
click
use
computer
for
audio,
you
should
be
able
to
communicate
with
us.
That
would
only
be
if
you've
logged
in
just
on
your
typical
computer,
rather
than
with
your
phone
aubry.
Can
we
get
to
the
third
one?
Thank
you.
C
If
you
would
like
to
speak,
there
is
a
little
little
raised
hand
down
in
the
bottom
right
hand
corner
if
you
click
on
that
it
will
indicate
to
us
that
you
would
like
to
speak
on
this
matter.
Please
only
raise
your
hand
during
the
public
hearing
that
you
would
like
to
speak
on,
so
that
we
can
get
through
these
hearings
quickly
and
efficiently.
So
and
once
you
have
spoke,
if
you
hit
that
button
one
more
time
that
will
lower
the
hand,
and
so
we
won't
call
on
you
at
the
the
next
public
hearing.
B
Thanks
john,
I
need
a
little
coaching
here,
I'm
out
of
practice,
so
we'll
go
with
the
report
of
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair.
The
chair
is
not
in
attendance
today
and
I
have
nothing
to
report.
So
any
report
from
the
director.
C
I
I
talked
to
this
afternoon.
He
said
the
only
thing
he
wanted
to
do
is
just
make
sure
you
know
that
james
wood
from
the
university
of
utah
is
going
to
be
in
our
next
meeting
to
kind
of
talk
through
and
provide
information
on
housing
issues
that
are
facing
the
city.
So
something
totally
looking
forward
to.
B
Okay
and
then
I'll
look
for
an
approval
of
the
many
minutes
for
the
february
9th
meeting.
A
D
F
G
B
I
I
I
H
H
The
property
owner
has
requested
conditional
use
approval
for
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
to
be
situated
in
the
rear
west
side
of
the
property
located
at
1532
south
green
street.
The
adu
will
be
14
feet,
8
inches
tall
and
650
square
feet
to
meet
the
requirements
to
allow
the
adu
to
reach
the
maximum
650
square
feet.
A
425
square
foot
addition
to
the
main
dwelling
will
be
built
with
the
proposed
adu
total
lock
coverage
will
be
approximately
32
full
lot
and
29
of
rear
yard
coverage.
F
H
H
These
next
two
photos
show
the
rear
yard
of
the
property
and
rear
access
for
the
property
via
the
private
alley.
This
image
on
the
right
is
viewing
north
to
south,
and
this
fenced
off
area
is
the
property
behind.
You
can
see
that
there
is
currently
nothing
there
and
the
adjacent
property
building
is
a
little
bit
set
to
the
east.
A
H
Next
slide
is
a
rendering
showing
the
proposed
adu
in
the
rear
yard
of
the
property
and
a
proposed
carport
edition
in
the
rear
yard
of
the
existing
dwelling,
and
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
the
project
proposal.
The
proposed
adu
will
have
the
building
footprint
of
650
square
feet
here
and
be
that
14
feet
and
eight
inches
tall.
H
To
the
following
key
considerations
were
identified
through
the
analysis
of
the
project
project.
I
will
touch
briefly
on
a
few
of
the
main
ones.
The
first
is
the
size
of
the
adu.
The
zoning
ordinance
requires
that
the
footprint
of
the
adu
should
not
be
greater
than
50
percent
of
the
footprint
of
the
principal
dwelling
and
shall
not
exceed
600
600
square
feet.
You
see
that
they
do
have
to
construct
that
proposed
edition,
and
that
edition
does
and
will
have
to
adhere
to
building
and
zoning
code
and
it
does
as
planned.
H
H
Waived
if
legally
located
on
street
parking
is
available
along
street
frontage
of
this
object,
property
or
if
the
subject
property
is
located
within
one
quarter.
Mile
of
the
transit
stop
of
a
transit
stop
which
it
is
and
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
meet
the
parking
requirement
with
the
proposed
detached
220
square
foot.
Carport
that
is
only
accessible
by
the
alleyway
parking
for
the
principal
structure
will
be
provided
in
an
existing
garage
that
is
accessed
on
green
street.
H
A
neighboring
property
owner
has
expressed
concerns
regarding
the
availability
of
on-street
parking
and
potential
impacts.
The
proposal
may
have
on
street
parking
in
the
area.
The
transportation
division
has
reviewed
and
approved
the
proposal
for
the
property
and
determined
the
proposal
meets
or
presents
minimal
impacts
on
on-street
parking
in
the
area.
H
H
The
proposed
adu
is
in
line
with
the
goals
established
within
the
guideline
under
growing
responsibly,
while
providing
people
with
choices
about
where
they
live
and
the
access
to
a
wide
variety
of
housing
types.
It
is
also
in
line
with
sustainable
growth
and
development
and
density
by
slightly
increasing
the
density
of
the
neighborhood,
while
providing
another
housing
option
to
future.
As
residents
the
next
consideration
is
neighborhood
compatibility.
H
Neighborhood
staff
has
considered
the
proposed
adu's
impact
on
the
neighborhood
character
and
views
from
adjacent
properties.
During
the
review
of
the
proposed
adu
against
the
standards
for
conditional
use.
Approval,
as
proposed
the
adu,
will
come
with
minimal
impacts
to
the
neighborhood,
mostly
due
to
the
slight
increased
usage
of
the
alleyway.
H
The
the
adopted
zoning
standards
for
accessory
dwelling
units
reduce
the
impact
of
proposed
adus
beyond
what
would
be
approved
for
an
accessory
structure
with
any
other
permitted
use.
The
proposed
adu
meets
the
adopted
height
and
setback
standards
and
long-term
impacts
appear
to
be
minimal,
and
then
the
final
consideration
is
adherence
with
department
code
planning
staff
has
received
comment
from
fire
department.
That
indicates
the
exact
location
of
the
structure
might
not
adhere
to
fire
code.
H
However,
because
of
the
size
of
the
lot,
there
is
enough
room
to
position
the
proposed
structure
in
a
manner
that
will
still
comply
with
all
planning
code,
because
the
structure
will
still
adhere
to
planning
code.
This
consideration
is
mainly
to
allow
flexibility
in
the
building
placement
on
the
lot
to
adhere
to
outside
department
code.
H
As
mentioned
staff
received
comment
in
opposition
of
the
request.
This
has
been
made
available
to
planning
commission
through
the
dropbox
recommendations.
After
reviewing
the
proposal,
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
conditional
use
request,
as
proposed
subject
to
complying
with
the
recommendations
listed
listed
in
the
staff
report.
H
J
This
is
amy
burroughs.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
A
J
K
J
Also
on
consider,
let's,
on
the
condition
number
three
we
talked
about
this
before
when
we
were
doing
adus.
If,
if
this
owner
occupied
condition-
or
you
know
no
short-term
use
which
is
going
to
be
part
of
conditions,
because
we
think
maybe
we
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
place
to
put
it.
So
I
wondered
if
you
guys
remember
that
conversation
in
a
previous
meeting
or
how
you
decided
to
handle
it,
because
this
didn't
seem
like
how
the
conversation
ended.
Last
time
I
was
here.
C
Commissioners
was
this
a
meeting
where
it
was
a
townhouse
kind
of
no.
J
A
C
A
D
J
D
C
J
Remember
well
hold
on.
It
was
a.
J
It
was
just
like
this,
a
conditional
use
where
there
was
some
discussion
about
whether
the
property
was
currently
used
as
a
short-term
rental,
and
it
was
added
as
a
condition
just
like
in
this
case,
and
there
was
conversation
about
if
that
was
the
right
way
to
do
it,
and
I
think
mckellar.
G
D
I
I
recall
this
because
I
remember
modif
making
a
motion
to
modify
the
recommendation.
D
The
concern
with
this
is
when
we
put
it
for
a
specific
we're,
basically
repeating
existing
city
code,
and
everybody
should
be
aware,
you
cannot
have
a
short-term
rental
unit,
whether
you
have
an
adu
or
not
that's
irrelevant
and
the
concern
is
we
seem
if
we
start
attaching
the
reminder
to
certain
applications
and
not
others.
It
makes
it
seem
like
we're.
Okay
with
it
in
other
circumstances,
and
it
seems
to
add
some
lingo.
D
So
I
think
that
we
had
modified
the
to
remove
that
recommendation,
that
that
condition
from
the
proposed
motion
and
remind
the
applicant
elsewhere.
I
believe
that's
how
we
resolve
that,
just
for
consistency
to
not
sort
of
favor
reminders
in
some
cases
and
not
others,.
C
You're
absolutely
right,
the
short
terminals
are
not
allowed
in
the
city.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
had
used
in
the
past
to
help
neighbors
and
residents
feel
more
comfortable
to
so
they
know
that
we
have
identified
that
we
know
that,
but
I
will
definitely
go
back
and
I
don't
think
the
full
decision
was
made,
but
I
think
that
we'll
take
this
back
to
management
team
and
have
a
discussion
about
it.
So,
thanks
for
pointing
that
out.
B
E
J
B
H
D
I'll
take
this
opportunity,
given
the
neighbors
concerns.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
Mr
rosen.
Are
you
aware
that
salt
lake
city
does
not
permit
rentals
of
less
than
30
days.
M
B
E
We
did
receive
a
couple
of
public
comments,
but
I
don't
see
anything
in
those
comments
that
would
affect
our
decision
on
the
traditional
use,
because
we
have
to
decide
around
unconditional
use
based
on
requirements.
E
A
E
Legislation
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
if
you
would
like.
E
Based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing,
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
planned
development
petition.
Pln
pcm
2021-012,
as
proposed
subjects,
are
complying
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report,
except
for
the
one
about,
except
for
number.
E
E
F
A
N
N
So
this
is
an
alley
vacation
on
green
street
also,
but
a
couple
of
blocks
north
of
that.
N
N
That's
in
red
here,
the
yellow
is
the
property
for
the
or
the
gospel
grace
church,
and
this
property
is
a
budding
on
5000.
The
alley
exists
on
paper.
N
Only
the
the
alley
has
been
absorbed
by
the
property
owners
and,
as
you
can
see
here
on
number
eight
here
in
the
east
of
the
block
is
the
the
property
is
owned
by
udot
and
it
was
acquired
in
the
1960s,
with
the
expansion
of
seventh
east
staff
recommendation
is
a
recommendation
to
approve
this
alley,
vacation
transmitter
to
vacate
this
to
the
city
council
a
little
bit
of
the
background.
N
Here's
the
the
original
marion
park
subdivision
platted
in
1890
and,
as
I
said
before,
this
blue
line
represents
the
the
the
property
that
udot
has
received
for
the
expansion
of
700
east
and,
as
you
can
see,
this,
the
the
alley
has
been
fenced
off
and
incorporated
into
these
properties.
Here
in
the
in
the
west.
N
So
the
existing
condition
again
this
is
the
photograph
of
the
the
alley
fenced
off
by
the
properties
and
also
this
area.
This
green
area
here
has
been
is
going
to
be
turning
into
the
harrison
garden,
a
project
by
wasatch
gardens
and
that's
creating
a
community
garden
in
this.
This
area.
Here
it's
gonna
start,
and
it
should
be
a
garden
by
the
the
end
of
the
spring
of
the
spring.
N
So
some
of
the
key
issues
with
this
alley.
First
one
was
the
elevation
request,
which
was
originally
five
properties
on
the
alley.
That's
running
north
and
south,
and
this
area
of
the
church
here
was
not
part
of
the
the
request
for
the
alley
vacation.
But
one
of
our
policies
is
that
when
we
vacate
an
alley
that
it
should
be
the
entire
alley,
if
the
alley
is
not
being
used
as
an
alley,
so
we
staff
contacted
the
church
and
they
are
willing
they
were
willing
to.
N
The
other
issue
was
a
question
about
the
alley
ownership,
whether
it
was
owned
by
salt
lake
city
or
udot,
and
staff
was
able
to
contact
udot
and
get
a
map
with
the
ownership
and
by
you
know,
being
able
to
look
at
the
the
measurements
here
it
was.
Staff
was
able
to
confirm
that
this
was
never
part
of
udot.
The
the
alley
was
never
part
of
udot
and
that
it
was
actually
you
know
the
the
property
actually
belonged
to
salt
lake
city.
N
The
city's
method
of
disposition
is
to
split
the
alley
in
half,
indeed,
each
of
the
the
the
halves
to
the
abundant
property
owners.
In
this
case,
the
church
is
zone
r15000,
so
it
the
property.
N
And
one
of
the
issues,
though,
is
that
if
you
can
see
the
property
owners
on
the
west
have
incorporated
or
absorbed
all
you
know
the
10
10
foot
width
of
the
alley.
So
if
we
go
about
the
disposition,
then
udot
would
get
half
of
the
alley
and
all
these
fences
and
some
accessories
store.
These
structures
would
have
to
be
removed.
N
Contacted
udot
and
got
confirmation
from
you
that
dead
and
they
would
be
giving
up
their
right.
They
would
be
okay,
giving
up
the
right
to
their
half
of
the
the
alley,
except
this
east-west
portion
of
the
alley
here,
mainly
because
udot
owns
both
properties
on
north
and
south
of
the
alley
when
it
gets
to
this
point
so,
and
so
that
was
an
important
issue
in
this
alley.
N
As
far
as
the
recommendation
is
concerned,
we
got
we,
we
always
route
elevations
to
the
appropriate
departments
in
the
city,
and
we
got
a
negative
recommendation
from
our
engineering
department
and
the
engineering
department
recommended
denial
of
this
alley
vacation
because
of
the
issue
of
splitting
the
the
the
alley
in
half
and
udot
would
get
you
know,
half
of
it,
and
would
leave
the
property
owners
sort
of
in
a
situation
where
they
would
have
to
remove
their
fences
and
remove.
N
You
know
some
of
their
the
the
accessory
structures
built
on
on
top
of
the
alley.
The
other
reason
was
that
the
adjacent,
the
the
illegal
encroachment
should
not
be
the
basis
of
the
vacation
and
there
should
be
a
community
benefit
due
to
the
vacation
of
the
alley.
N
So
in
response
to
that
staff
addressed
the
issue
of
the
land,
you
know
the
disposition
of
the
the
alley
with
u
dot
by
having
you
dot
concede
its
interest
on
the
half
half
of
the
alley
running
north
and
south,
and
then
also
staff
finds
that
the
encroachment
is
not
the
reason
for
the
alley.
Vacation-
and
you
know
the
the
this
alley
meets
the
consideration
of
the
ordinance
one
of
the
the
the
considerations
which
is
lack
of
use,
because
this
alley
is
not
being
used
as
an
alley.
N
So
our
the
findings
from
planning
staff
is
that
the
alley
property
is
not
useful
as
a
public
right-of-way
and
the
request
satisfies
the
policy
consideration
of
lack
of
use,
which
is
a
consideration
that
is
found
on
section
14
of
the
salt
lake
city
cold.
N
The
entire
10
10
foot
width
to
the
west
of
running
property
owners
and
with
that
I'm
willing
to
respond
to
any
questions
or
comments.
J
This
is
amy
burroughs.
I
have
a
question
so
there
the
property
will
be
deeded
to
those
to
the
western
joining
property
owners
instead
of
sold.
N
That
is
our
policy.
When
property
is
a
zone,
single
family,
residential
or
low
low
density,
the
the
alley
is
deeded
to
the
abundant
property
owners.
It's
split
in
half
in
half
it's
needed.
J
N
It's
if
it's
in
a
multi-family
zoning
district
that
you
know,
that
is
the
case
that
the
fan
of
the
the
the
alley
or,
if
it's
a
commercial
property,
that's
a
budding
the
the
pro
the
the
alley.
Then
the
alley
is
sold
at
fair
market
value.
But
in
this
case
it's
single
family
and
it's
zone.
R1
5000.
J
Okay,
I
don't
remember
the
specifics
on
the
zoning
of
that
other
lot.
Maybe
some
of
you
guys
do,
but
if
that's
the
policy,
then
that
is
it.
I
wonder,
though,
if
I
wonder
if
this
it
does
kind
of
sound
to
me
like
that,
the
encroachment
is
causing
the
lack
of
use
and
maybe
has
for
years
and
years
and
years
is
encroachment
not
a
legitimate
reason
for
alley.
Vacation,
like
the
engineering
comment,
said
well
in
this
case,.
N
You
got
a
well
before
19
the
1960s.
N
But
when
they're
you
know,
because
of
that
you
know
the
demolition
of
all
the
properties
on
the
on
the
east
side,
then
the
alley
pretty
much
ceased
to
become.
You
know
a
functioning.
J
J
Okay,
thank
you.
I
will
do
do
all
so
only
that
one
applicant
applied
to
have
the
alley
vacated,
but
have
they
all
like
signed
on
to
it
now
and
agreed
to
it
all
of
those
property
owners
now
so.
N
That
property
on
1343
green
street
was
the
applicant
and
what
happened
is
they
were
pursuing
a
building
permit
for
an
accessory
structure?
N
That
would
be
on
top
of
the
alley,
and
so
at
that
point
they
found
out
that
the
alley
was
not,
you
know
their
property
and
that
was
actually
city
property,
and
so
that
was
the
the
reason
you
know
this
petition
started,
but
when
they
started
yeah
with
this
application,
they
had
the
five
property
owners
signed.
C
So
nicholas
lumbee,
I'm
not
able
to
make
you
a
panelist,
but
we
can
unmute
you
and
mute
you.
So
if
you
would
like
to
speak
right
now,
you're
you're
able
to
say
a
few
words.
O
Okay,
guys,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
excellent.
Well,
hey!
Thank
you
so
much
for
inviting
me
to
this
meeting
and
hearing
this
case.
So,
yes,
we
did
apply
back
in
2020
after
we
found
out
that
indeed,
the
end
of
our
garden
was
not
actually
ours.
So
we
hired
a
an
engineering
firm
from
up
in
heber
and
they
did
a
they
did
a
full.
O
You
know
golly,
I'm
losing
the
words
I'm
I'm
I'm
on
conference
calls
all
day
long
and
when
it
actually
comes
to
something
that
I'm
responsible
for
and
nervous,
so
I
apologize,
but
they
did
a
full
survey
and
and
and
did
indeed
confirm
that
so
I
actually
acquired
this
property
back
in
2007
and
had
always
assumed
that
the
the
fence
line
was
an
indication
of
the
property
line.
So
you
know
that
that
all
became
news
to
us
and-
and
so
this
is
where
we're
at
right
now
I
did
so.
O
I
do
believe
that
one
of
my
neighbors
brett
markham,
I
think
he's
at
1351
south
green
street-
is
listening
in
he.
I
know
he's
he's
tried
to
have
that
the
alley
vacated
over
the
years
so
kudos
to
cartier
for
getting
this
this
far
and
then
I
also
do
you
know
have
been
in
discussions
with
rance
wilkins
he's
at
the
first
house
on
green
street.
I
the
numbers
are
escaping
me.
O
O
I
have
no
idea
when
it
was
built,
but
yeah,
like
I
said,
that's
just
been
that
assumption
clearly
not
right
to
make
assumptions
in
this
case,
so
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
to
present
or
to
you
know,
discuss
with
all
of
you
fine
folks,
but
you
know
if
this
could
be
granted
I'd,
be
eternally
grateful.
B
O
So,
by
the
way
so
brett
is,
is
actually
he's.
Texting
me
right
now
and
he
said
he's
been
here
since
1997
and
the
fence
was
there
he
he
can't
join
the
audio.
Unfortunately,.
C
Yes,
we
have
cindy
cromer
cindy,
you
are
unmuted
and
you
have
two
minutes
to
speak.
E
E
So
I'm
just
asking,
as
the
city
moves
toward
looking
at
increased
density,
that
the
single
family
zone
not
be
held
up
as
the
holy
grail
and
that
we
look
at
the
equity
of
dividing
alleyways,
regardless
of
the
single
family
zoning
status.
It
just
does
not
seem
fair
to
me
that
none
of
my
properties
would
qualify
for
this
benefit.
Thank
you.
B
E
I
do
want
to
come
back
to
this
issue
of
not
paying
for
this
property.
I
I'm
pretty
certain
that
we
have
asked
people
in
the
past
that
that
we,
but
that
the
city
of
the
past
has
has
has
required
folks
to
to
buy
this
prop
buy
property.
I've
never
actually
heard
of
a
policy
that
didn't
have
privileged
single-family
houses
like
this,
but
that's
really
not
our
concern.
E
That's
this
is
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
based
on
the
findings
and
analysis
and
staff
report,
testimony
and
discussion
at
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
forward
favorable
recommendation
to
the
mayor
to
declare
the
alpha
ali's
third
plus
property
and
for
the
city
council
to
vacate
the
alley
with
the
following
condition
that
the
alley
admitted
the
entire
10-foot
width
to
the
west,
a
budding
property.
J
That
that
question
of
dating
versus
selling
is
still
a
question
in
my
mind,
and
I
think
I'm
gonna
vote
no.
Unless,
unless
the
staff
wants
to
speak
up
and
say,
that's
that's
for
sure
how
we've
done
it,
because
I
don't
remember
doing
it
that
way,.
C
Commissioner
burroughs,
it's
not
it's
actually
even
more
than
just
policy.
It's
actually
in
the
code
and
and
part
of
our
code
is
frankly
antiquated
when
it
comes
to
vacating
and
disposing
of
alleyways,
and
I
know
the
city
council
has
had
a
on
a
topic.
You
would
like
to
talk
about
for
at
least
the
13
years.
I've
worked
here,
but
so
it
hasn't
been
changed,
and
so
at
this
point
there
is
we
we
have
to
process
it.
That
way
for
single
family
and
all
other
uses
unfortunately
have
to.
J
K
Do
you
mind
if
I
jump
in
I'm
chrissy
gilmore
with
the
staff
planner
that
was
on
that
actually
yeah
alley,
vacation
yeah?
That
one
was
the
same
as
this
one.
It
was
just
a
little
bit
different
because
of
it
bordered
salt
lake
city
property,
and
so,
instead
of
half
the
alley
going
to
the
property
owner
in
half
going
to
salt
lake
city,
the
full
alley
was
proposed
to
go
to
the
property
owner.
But
this
one
was
the
same
where
we
weren't
charging
them
in
that
participation.
K
D
K
D
Amy
burroughs
and
I
turned
the
planning
commission
at
the
same
time
and
there
have
been
at
least
two
valley
vacations
since
I
joined,
so
I
think
we
are
speaking
about.
I
remember
one
where
they
didn't
pay
and
one
where
they
paid.
So
I
will
okay.
K
J
F
B
K
K
Through
the
plan
development
process,
the
applicant
is
requesting
reduced
law
area
for
the
twin
home,
lots
from
the
required
1500
square
feet
to
approximately
1
353
square
feet
and
an
approximate
2
inch
reduction
to
the
front
yard
setback
at
the
southwest
portion
of
the
lot
fronting
julie.
Court
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
K
The
project
consists
of
creating
two
lots
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
a
new
twin
home
dwelling
fronting
windsor
street.
Previously
the
subject
site
was
split
into
two
separate
parcels:
one
containing
the
existing
home
on
122,
south
dooley
court,
and
a
new
lot
on
126
south
windsor
street.
The
new
lot,
the
one
on
windsor
street,
is
now
proposed
to
be
split
into
two
lots
for
the
twin
home.
K
K
The
existing
single
family
dwelling
that
front
stooley
court
is
proposed
to
remain
while
the
property
is
not
located
in
a
local
local,
historic
district.
The
retention
of
the
existing
single-family
home
contributes
to
the
architectural
and
historic
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
preserves
the
existing
housing
stock,
and
then
on
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
site
plan,
which
shows
julie
court
at
the
bottom
and
then
there's
a
slight
little
part
of
the
property
here
for
the
twin
home:
lots
that
front
stilley
court
as
well
as
the
the
property
at
122
south
duly.
K
K
You
can
see
that
it's
having
some
grading
and
work
done
and
then
these
bottom
images
are
windsor
street.
So
this
property
is
unique
in
that
the
twin
home
would
be
the
only
property
that
faces
windsor
street.
The
rest
of
the
homes
are
actually
the
rear
yards
of
those
properties
on
julie
court.
Although
there
are
homes
on
the
east
side
of
the
face,
windsor
street.
K
Through
the
plan
development
process,
the
applicant
is
requesting
relief
from
the
lot
area
requirement
for
the
twin
home
lots
twin
homes
are
permitted
or
permitted
use
in
the
sr3
zone
and
require
a
minimum
of
1500
square
feet
per
dwelling
in
it.
The
proposed
new
lots
would
be
slightly
under
that
at
1,
353
square
feet
and
1
360
square
feet
and
the
applicant
is
also
requesting
the
front
part
front
yard
setback.
K
So
the
front
yard
setback
in
the
sr-3
zone
is
measured
by
taking
the
average
setback
of
all
other
front
yards
on
the
block
face,
because
this
is
a
double
furniture
lot.
It
technically
has
two
front
yards,
though
the
acting
front
yard
would
face
windsor
street
and
the
acting
rear
yard
would
face
duly
court.
K
So
you
can
see
this
on
the
site
plan.
There's
this
little
red
arrow
here,
and
that
is
where
the
modification
is
requested.
So
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
modification
to
that
rear
yard
setback,
which
is
considered
a
front
yard
setback
by
ordinance
in
one
small
small
area
of
the
property,
where
the
property
angles
towards
the
structure.
Since
that
area
is
considered
a
front
yard,
the
average
setback
would
be
13
feet.
The
proposed
setback
at
this
point
is
approximately
12
feet,
10
inches,
which
would
require
a
2
inch
setback
modification
through
the
plan
development
process.
K
The
primary
key
considerations
for
this
request,
where
the
neighborhood
compatibility
and
context
and
how
this
project
fits
within
the
surrounding
area,
as
well
as
as
well
as
master
plan
compliance
and
how
it
meets
the
goals
found
within
the
applicable
plans.
K
While
the
proposed
twin
home
building
will
be
larger
than
the
existing
adjacent
buildings,
twin
homes
are
permitted
use
and
overall,
the
size
meets
the
standards
of
the
sr3
zone.
The
height
is
below
the
anticipated
building
height
limits
in
the
zoning
district
and,
additionally,
the
proposal
is
at
the
scale
of
a
single
single-family
home
that
could
be
built
by
right
on
the
site.
K
K
K
All
of
the
comments
received
so
far
have
been
opposed
to
the
proposal.
The
comments
several
comments
were
also
received
after
your
staff
report
was
published
and
those
have
been
included
in
your
dropbox
report
so
to
wrap
up
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
project
with
the
conditions
in
the
staff
report
and
on
your
screen.
K
J
Chrissy
this
is
amy
burroughs.
I
wonder
if
it's
is
it
unprecedented
to
have
a
two
inch
like
setback
waiver?
That
seems
crazy
yeah.
We.
K
J
K
So
the
the
required
weary
yard
setback
is
15
feet
and
all
of
this
is
considered
rear
yard.
It's
just
this
little
portion,
that's
considered
front
yard,
and
so,
since
it
meets
the
rear
yard
setback
and
just
that
small
portion
means
doesn't
meet
the
front
yard,
it's
very
unique.
We
thought
it
was
best
to
include
that
in
there
just
to
be
safe,
because
it
is
even
though
it
is
only
two
inches.
J
K
So
the
original
plans
had
a
13
foot
setback
right
here
and
that
so
they
would
have
required
modification
of
the
rear
yard
setback
as
well.
Staff
was
not
supportive
of
that
modification
request
and
let
the
applicant
know
we
would
have
a
negative
recommendation
for
the
planning
commission
and
then
there
were
a
few
other
design
issues.
That
staff
asked
the
applicant
to
rework.
J
B
All
right
anyone
else
you
said
the
applicant
is
here:
are
they
prepared
to
speak
hello?
Q
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
speak
chris
had
a
fabulous
presentation
already.
So
I
think
that
covers
most
the
bases,
but
I
think
I'm
really
just
passionate
about
this
project
just
because
it
does
add
the
missing
middle
to
the
housing
stock.
Q
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
young
professionals
and
couples
that
do
want
to
go,
enjoy
this
area
of
of
downtown
but
can't
afford
the
single
family
home
prices.
So
one
thing
this
does
is
really
kind
of
adds
like
a
new
product
type
for
for
people
to
enjoy.
B
Any
questions
for
the
applicant
from
the
commission
all
right
now,
thank
you.
Well
now,
we'll
do
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
get
back
to
you.
C
C
Is
yes,
so
frederick?
If
you
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
community
council,.
C
It
did
work,
so
thank
you
and
you,
as
the
community
council
representative,
gets
five
minutes
to
speak.
Okay,
I'm
actually
esther
hunter
is
actually
the
chairman,
however,
of
east
central
community
council,
however,
she's
been
disposed
and
she
was
just.
She
asked
me
if
I
could
just
read
the
following.
C
So
the
east
central
community
council
supports
a
single-family
residence
in-field
development,
as
originally
described
in
the
first
subdivision,
application
to
split
122,
duly
court
into
two
lots
that
was
already
approved.
The
sr-3
zoning.
C
The
goal
to
increase
density
and
housing
in
salt
lake
city
should
be
concentrated
in
zones
and
locations
that
are
already
allow
for
infill
without
needing
master
plan
amendments
and
existing
residential
area
rezoning.
Thank
you.
E
E
Initially,
the
applicant
said
that
the
house
at
the
end
of
dooley
would
remain,
and
he
would
build
a
single-family
house
on
the
new
lot
on
windsor
that
sounded
okay
to
me,
then,
incrementally
the
story
changed,
he
tried
to
acquire
the
easement
protecting
the
house
unduly.
He
sold
the
house
on
duly
without
taking
out
any
permits.
The
new
parcel
on
windsor
would
not
be
a
cottage
similar
to
the
existing
ones,
but
a
garage
mahal
with
one
parking
space
per
home
and
no
parking
for
visitors.
There
is
no
additional
parking
available
on
this
block.
E
There
is
incredible
non-conforming
density
here:
the
block
offers
housing
types
of
single-family,
duplex,
small
and
larger
family,
multiple
family
buildings
and
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
the
proposal,
because
it
keeps
changing
to
something
worse
and
I
believe
it
will
continue
to
do
so.
It
is
insensitive
to
the
surrounding
buildings
in
an
exploitive
effort
to
generate
even
more
income
for
the
applicant.
There
is
not
a
single
two-story
building
on
windsor
and
dooley,
not
one.
E
It's
not
the
responsibility
of
this
block
or
this
neighborhood
to
contain
more
density.
This
block
is
already
doing
its
share
for
housing
and
it
has
been
for
over
a
hundred
years,
and
if
you
look
at
the
planning
staff's
research
from
2018,
you
see
that
and
the
square
footage
you're
talking
about
waving
would
accommodate
two
cars
thanks.
C
P
All
right,
yeah,
jen
colby,
and
I
also
ask
that
you
vote
to
deny
the
pud
and
subdivision
request.
I
already
submitted
extensive
technical
comments
tonight.
I
want
to
focus
on
core
issues
if
the
applicant
had
adhered
to
his
initial
subdivision
plan
for
a
single
cottage
which
he
can
do
by
right
under
sr-3,
we
would
not
be
here
tonight.
The
community
response
was
generally
favorable
to
one
cottage,
and
that
is
what
I
still
support.
P
The
owner
and
investor
recently
bought
the
122,
duly
property
and
immediately
flipped
the
west
lot
and
house
after
subdivision.
Despite
other
promises,
he
likely
made
a
substantial
windfall
and
fueled
ongoing
local
land
price
inflation
in
the
process.
This
does
not
help
affordability.
He
then
changed
his
plan.
The
proposed
twin
home
does
not
meet
the
sr3
purpose
statement
to
quote
be
compatible
with
existing
scale
density
and
intensity
of
the
neighborhood.
I
concur
that
cherry-picking
bits
out
of
larger
city
plans
is
not
the
way
to
rationalize
or
be
rational,
about
planning.
P
This
and
similar
recent
inappropriate
construction
proposals
put
city
planners
in
the
awkward
role
of
architects
and
designers
as
they
try
to
get
less
bad
projects,
rather
than
judging
on
the
original
merits
or
lack
thereof,
even
with
some
lipstick.
This
twin
home
does
not
deserve
exceptions
from
the
city.
Transparency
and
orderly
public
process
also
suffer
once
again.
We
see
clearly
again,
we
see
cherry
picking
from
various
plans
and
ignoring
the
very
serious
concerns
specific
to
the
project.
P
In
this
case,
any
design
changes
have
been
superficial,
not
substantive,
critical
compatibility
details
such
as
have
been
ignored,
such
as
matching
roofing
materials,
asphalt,
shingle
to
all
other
existing
homes.
There
are
no
high
efficiency
design
requirements.
Despite
the
climate
emergency,
the
front-facing
garages
are
atrocious.
Why
no
basements?
These
are
only
a
few
examples.
Please
vote
no
and
let
a
single
cottage
infill,
as
originally
proposed
proceed.
Thank
you.
A
Hello,
my
name
is
keenan
wells.
I
am
a
young
professional.
I
keep
hearing
these
words
young
professional
in
like
every
new
one
of
these
building
developments
by
speculators,
I'm
a
young
professional.
I
don't
want
this
housing.
This
is
not
the
housing
I'm
looking
for.
This
is
not
the
housing.
My
friends
are
looking
for.
What
I
don't
like
is
rampant
housing
speculation,
which
seems
exactly
what's
going
on
here
and
it's
this
housing
speculation.
A
That
means
that
I
can't
buy
my
first
home,
not
a
lack
of
microscopic
housing
without
a
second
parking
place
for
a
friend,
that's
probably
going
to
be
turned
into
an
airbnb.
A
We
have
zoning
rules
for
a
reason.
We
have
a
city
master
plan
for
a
reason.
If,
okay,
if
this
proposal
is
so
set
in
stone
that
two
inches
matter-
okay,
I
I
just
don't
understand
you're
you're
not
allowed
you're,
not
able
to
adjust
your
structure.
Two
inches
are.
You
are
you're
that
set.
I
why
why
should
we
give
exceptions
to
you
repeatedly,
so
you
can
speculate.
A
From
a
young
professional,
I
ask
you
to
deny.
C
I
Ahead
kelsey:
do
you
have
an
email
planning,
commission
members
I
am
reaching
out,
because
I
have
some
concerns
in
regards
to
plan
development
and
preliminary
subdivision
at
122,
south
dooley
court
and
126
south
windsor
street.
Please
see
below
for
a
list
of
my
questions
about
what
I
believe
to
be
a
hasty
and
inappropriate
application
for
the
area.
I
First,
warren
crummett
is
no
longer
the
owner
of
122
south,
duly,
which
is
included
in
the
plan
development.
The
applicant
is
being
disingenuous
in
their
application,
as
they
mentioned,
preserving
this
property
in
their
rationale
justifying
the
plan
development
two
the
applicant
does
not
raise
any
points
that
would
support
how
a
plan
development
would
offer
a
product
superior
to
one
possible
under
strict
application
of
the
code.
I
Homeownership
is
still
possible
with
a
project
that
can
be
achieved
without
a
plan.
Development
and
this
project
is
likely
to
be
is
unlikely
to
be
affordable.
Moreover,
whether
122
duly
is
preserved
or
not,
is
no
longer
something
that
can
be
controlled
by
the
applicant
because
he
no
longer
owns
the
property.
Three.
The
future
land
use
map
where
the
area
indicates
this
area
for
medium
density,
residential
defined
on
the
map
as
15
to
30
dwelling
units
per
acre.
I
The
purpose
statement
of
the
sr3
zone
also
specifies
that
this
is
a
medium
density
zone.
The
plan
development
does
not
further
the
purpose
statement
of
the
zone
by
exceeding
the
destiny
called
for
in
the
zone.
Moreover,
why
was
the
master
plan
amendment
for
the
future
land
use
map
of
the
central
community
master
plan
not
required?
The
project
exceeds
the
density
indicated
by
the
map
four.
I
I
B
No
new
hands:
okay,
then
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
for
discussion.
Emotion,.
Q
Q
Okay,
so
yes,
when
I
originally
purchased
this
house,
which
contained
both
the
property
and
the
original
single
family
home,
the
original
intent
was
to
just
go
ahead
and
subdivide
the
property,
and
at
that
time
I
was
not
intending
to
do
a
planned
development
for
a
twin
home.
But
you
know
things
do
change,
and
that
is
why
I
included
it
in
my
plan
development
application-
I
you
know
later
filed
for
a
plant
development
application
and,
as
far
as
the
single
family
homes
are
concerned,
the
existing
one.
Q
Why
I
sold
that
I
it
was
actually
in
complete
disrepair,
foundational
issues,
among
other
things,
that
kind
of
made
it.
So
I
was
no
longer
an
expert
in
in
rehabilitating
that
so
I
suck
I
went
and
found
someone
who
is
more
professional
or
more
capable
of
doing
that
and
let
them
handle
that
instead
of
you
know
trying
to
do
something
that
I'm
not
an
expert
in.
So
that's
the
reason
for
that
for
selling
it.
Q
Q
There
are
two
houses
on
dooley
that
don't
have
parking
spaces
in
their
yard
and
actually
park
on
the
existing
structures
lot
at
122
dooley,
so
they
have
to
walk
to
their
homes
and
don't
even
have
a
parking
space.
So
I
think
the
parking
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
neighborhood.
A
J
This
is
amy
burroughs.
Can
I
ask
chrissy,
is
there
are?
Are
the
other
lots
that
are
on
this
on
this
block?
Are
they
1500
square
feet
generally,
or
is
there
a
place?
I
can
look
to
see.
K
J
Okay,
I
well
for
the
other
commissioners.
I
somebody
want
to
say
anything:
does
anybody
want
any
more
discussion?
I
I
would
make
a
motion
unless
you
guys
want
to
talk
more.
K
E
Yeah,
I
I
do
have
a
comment
I
this
is
one
of
those
internal
blocks
that
that
internal
streets
has
created,
because
the
initial
plot
was
to
not
was
not
conducive
to
constructing,
and
that's
why,
historically,
you
have
these,
you
have
these
very
small
lots
that
essentially
were
built
on
what
was
supposed
to
be
one
lot
all
of
these
properties,
so
they
are
all,
but
they
are
all
bigger
than
the
1500
square
feet
and
much
bigger,
and
I'm
wondering
from
that
particular
so
in
that
particular
zone,
what
is
the
minimum
minimum
requirement
for
a
single
family
lot.
E
E
For
that
reason,
I
think
actually
that
this
is
pushing
it,
and
I
don't
you
know
I
I
generally
do
like
to
have
a
variety
of
housing
types
in
a
place.
There
are
other
duplexes
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
for
sure,
as
well
as
apartment
complexes
and
so
forth,
but
I,
but
I
think
that
I
think
I'm
gonna
vote
against
this,
because
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
that
we
should
should
not
because
of
the
two
inches,
but
because
of
the
actual
lot
size.
E
J
C
I
just
want
to
bring
to
the
commission's
attention
that
the
plan
development
includes
a
single-family
home
as
well,
and
so,
if
we
look
at
the
density
over
all
three
parcels,
it
would
meet
the
density
requirements.
I
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because,
through
a
plant
development,
you
can't
achieve
greater
density,
so
they
had
to
meet
the
minima.
Just
in
this,
the
single-family
home
slot
is
oversized
technically,
and
these
are
a
little
undersized.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
guys
understood
that.
D
This
is
more
of
a
curiosity
than
to
be
honest
with
you
than
standards
per
se,
but
I'm
curious.
You
mentioned
mr
comment
that
you're
not
familiar
with
how
to
rehab
a
property,
and
I
I
so
I
guess
are
you
delegating
the
construction
of
this
duplex
because
is
there,
do
you
have
a?
Is
it
a
prefab
house
or
something
that
you're
putting
in?
If
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience,
you
know
building
houses,
how
are
you
planning
on
actually
constructing
the
housing.
Q
Right
yeah,
so
I
mean
rehabbing
a
house
and
fixing
the
foundation
is
different
than
building
so
I'd
be
contracting
with
you
know,
professional
builders
who
I
would
lean
on
for
their
expertise
to
facilitate
the
project.
I
have
a
few
different
business
partners.
I've
already
brought
this
to
who
have
done
this
before,
and
everything
like
that.
So
yeah
they'd
be
in
charge
of
the
construction
and
doing
it
in
a
very
professional
way.
J
K
So
it
it
neighborhood
compatibility
is
a
standard
of
the
plan
development
and
you
know
I
would.
The
staff
report
did
recommend
that
it
does
meet
that,
but
I
would
refer
to
the
planning
commission
to
discuss.
If,
if
you
have
a
different
opinion,
the
sr3
zone
does
allow
height
up
to
28
feet
which
can
accommodate
two
stories,
so
the
general
zone
is
compatible
with
the
general
zone.
Although
you
don't
see
two
story:
structures
on
windsor
or
duly.
J
E
E
C
And
that's
certainly
up
to
the
the
commission
to
make
that
decision,
but
do
consider
that
anybody
could
demolish
these
homes
aren't
protected.
Anybody
could
demolish
them
and
build
a
home
up
to
28
feet
if
they
want
to
buy
right
as
long
as
they
obviously
met
all
the
setbacks,
lot
coverage
and
all
those
other
standards.
E
J
E
Well,
I
guess:
if
we,
if
we
do,
if
we
don't
allow
the
dual
home,
then
a
single
family
home
will
go
in
there
and
it
will
be
28
feet.
I
can
assure
you
or.
A
It
will
be
and
it
could
have
two
garages
facing
the
street
as
well.
So
I
think
you
know
when
you
focus
on
design
issues
that
we
don't
really
have
control
over.
I
wouldn't
go
down
that
that
route,
maybe
because
what
you
can
do
by
right
could
look
exactly
like
what
he's
doing
as
a
single
family,
home
right.
D
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
agree
with
adrian
that
I
I
guess
my
prior
is
that
our
planning
staff
are
so
thorough
in
figuring
out
the
neighborhood
character,
and
I
to
be
perfectly
honest
with
you.
D
I
need
a
very
compelling
reason
for
my
own
prior
based
on
having
spent
much
less
time
on
this
than
our
professional
staff
with
degrees.
In
this
to
decide,
it
doesn't
agree
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
especially
if
it's
allowing
more
socioeconomic
diversity
in
a
neighborhood,
as
I
think
this
project
would
allow
by
increasing
density,
and
so
I
guess
that's
just
my
priors.
I
really
have
to
have
a
compelling
argument
to
disagree
with
the
planning
staff
on
something
that
I
think
is
consistent
with
our
overall
goal
of
increasing
the
socioeconomic
diversity
of
a
neighborhood.
E
E
These
units
are,
you
know
what
1400
square
feet
each
you
know
they're
they're,
probably
going
to
sell
for
300
000
each
of
more
so
but.
A
J
B
Okay,
we'll
take
a
vote.
Brenda
no.
J
F
C
B
A
C
G
G
Okay,
so
yeah.
This
is
a
request
for
a
planned
development
for
at
1179,
south
navajo
street,
which
is
the
corner
of
glendale
and
navajo
for
a
57
unit,
three-story
town
home,
the
property
is
in
the
community
business
zone
and
the
requested
use
is
a
permitted
use
in
that
zone,
but
it
does
require
plan
development
as
you'll
see
on
the
site
plan
that
there
are
four
buildings
that
do
not
have
frontage
on
a
public
street
in
that
zone
they
would
typically
be
required
to
and
there's
no
additional
modifications
being
requested
through
the
plan
development.
G
So
this
is
looking
here
at
navajo
street
in
glendale
drive
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
here
so
again,
57
units,
town
homes,
these
silk,
drive,
briar,
drive
and
horse
wheat
drive,
would
they
would
be
private.
G
So
looking
at
this
project,
the
proposed
use
is
for
market
rate
town
homes,
and
these
would
be
a
rental
project,
a
rental
property,
our
product.
I
should
say-
and
so
this
will
all
be
on
one
lot
and
the
lot
is
existing
and
then
each
of
the
units
would
be
available
for
rent
yeah.
It's
in
it's
part
of
the
west
side
master
plan
and
the
property
is
2.37
acres
and
again
the
proposed
height
is
28
feet
and
the
three
stories
which
you
can
see
there.
G
G
G
On
the
proposed
on
the
property,
so
in
looking
at
this
when
we're
considering
a
planned
development,
the
first
is
that
plan
development
has
got
to
meet
at
least
one
major
objective
listed
in
the
chapter
and
of
those
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
it
would
meet
housing,
mobility
and
master
plan
implementation
objectives
in
staff's
analysis.
We've
looked
at
this
and
and
the
first
one
for
housing
talks
about
one
of
the
objectives
being
providing
housing
not
commonly
found
in
the
neighborhood,
but
at
a
compatible
scale
and
staff
agrees
that
that
it
does
meet
that
objective.
G
In
that
these
units
are
largely,
you
know,
the
the
height
the
way
they
front
the
streets
and
have
close
proximity
to
the
street
is
similar
in
scale
and
design
to
what's
in
the
neighborhood
and
having
it.
There
are
not
many
town
homes
in
the
neighborhood
most
are
single-family
homes,
and
so
this
is
a
unique
prop.
G
The
applicant
has
indicated
mobility
objectives
of
creating
interior
block
walkways
and
connections
through
the
property
in
in
staff's
analysis.
It
does
not
meet
this
objective
that
is
typically
intended
for
properties
that
connect
from
one
street
to
another
street
through
you
know,
you
know
parallel
streets
through
through
a
full
block
and
create
those
new
connections
and
shorten
walkway
walk
times
and
and
provide
additional
connections.
G
Although
this
property
will
be
open
for
the
public
to
traverse
and
go,
you
know,
use
the
sidewalks
and
and
connect
through.
We
don't
believe
that
it's
meeting
the
intended
objectives
for
mobility,
but
we
did
feel
that
it
met
the
quite
a
few
of
the
master
plan
objectives
and
they
are
listed
in
your
staff
report
and
explained
more
fully
there.
But
within
the
objectives
of
planned
salt
lake,
it
supports
various
neighborhood
objectives
within
the
areas
of
neighborhoods
growth,
housing,
air
quality,
beautiful
city
and
the
economy,
and
also
looking
at
the
west
side
master
plan.
G
More
particularly,
there
are
a
number
of
goals
and
objectives
listed
there,
but
for
this
particular
node
there
are
three
main
goals
and
it
largely
meets
each
of
those
goals,
the
first
one
being
to
add
residential
density.
So
this
is
a
more
dense
product
than
what's
found
in
the
area
and
it
does
add,
viable
mixed
use.
G
Node
with
the
live
work
units
in
that
those
live
work
units
can
be
more
responsive
to
to
market
conditions
and
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
then,
of
course,
adding
compatible
higher
density
residential,
and
you
know
they
do
that
through
the
plan
development
by
adding
those
private,
driveways
and
sidewalks,
which
we'll
look
at
a
little
bit
more
so
again,
when
we
look
at
the
plan
development
standards,
so
we
feel
it
does
meet
two
of
the
objectives
and
it
only
needs
to
meet
one.
G
You
know
this
is
a
quite
a
deep
property
and
if,
if
these
units
weren't
allowed
like
this,
the
product
would
either
vastly
under
utilize
the
property
or
would
probably
result
in
larger
long
buildings
that
are
more
perpendicular
to
glendale.
So
maybe
they'd
have
frontage
along
navajo,
but
the
rest
of
the
prop
buildings
may
be
more
perpendicular.
G
G
And
the
in
the
streets,
we
felt
that
that
was
a
good
compromise
and
then
this
arrangement
also
gives
larger
setbacks
than
are
required,
and
so
there's
you
know
it's
it's
adding
substantially
more
landscaping,
both
along
the
perimeters
and,
of
course,
at
the
rear
of
the
property
buffering
to
adjacent
uses
and
adding
more
green
space.
G
And,
of
course,
this
also
adds
more
amenities
than
may
otherwise
be
provided
to
the
property
with
pickleball
courts
and
barbecue
pits
and
playground
and
and
key
to
all
those
the
community
garden
space.
G
And
then
this
arrangement,
we
also
felt
helps
increase
pedestrian
interest
with
you
know
more
glass
right
along
ground,
floor
glass
right
along
the
public
streets
and
facing
the
sidewalk
and
then
each
unit
that
that's
located
along
the
street,
of
course,
has
ground
level,
entrances,
porches
and
similar
scale
to
surrounding
properties.
It
will
have
a
more
much
more
welcoming
and
inviting
presence
facing
the
sidewalk.
G
So
this
is
taking
a
look
a
little
bit
more
at
the
elevations
and
how
they're
proposed
this
is,
of
course,
facing
the
the
south.
Eleven
are
these
elevations
here
with
the
garages?
That's
of
course
facing
the
interior
private
driveways.
The
image
at
the
top
right
of
your
screen
shows
how
the
proposed
live.
Work
units
would
would
function
with
the
residential
entrance
to
one
side
and
then
double
glass
doors
available
for
the
live
workspace
each
unit
or
each
tenant
could
choose
how
they
wanted
to
use
that
space.
G
It
could
be
used,
for
you
know,
piano
lessons,
studio,
space,
tax,
prep
things
like
that.
That
would
have
you
know
an
option
for
customers
to
come
in
and
access
that
space,
and
then
you've
got
the
balconies
that
also
face
public
sidewalk,
which
gives
more
street
presence,
and
you
can
see
here
the
proposed
materials
which
we
felt
were
in
line
with
the
neighborhood
similar
to
what's
found
there
now
and
a
rich
mix
that
would
bring
a
quality
product.
G
This
is
just
showing
a
little
bit
more
of
some
of
the
depictions
of
those
spaces,
the
garden,
the
community
garden
space.
Some
of
the
amenities.
G
In
looking
at
this
as
well,
we're
certainly
sympathetic
to
the
fact-
and
it
was
the
number
one
comment
from
the
community-
that
there
you
know
the
taj
hottest
market
would
be
replaced
and
we're
sympathetic
to
you
know
the
loss
of
a
grocery
store.
That's
one
of
the
main
requests
with
within
any
neighborhood
anytime.
Any
planner
can
tell
you
that,
and
we
recognize
the
importance
of
access
to
healthy
foods.
G
The
it's
it's
in
your
staff
report,
but
there's
considerable
discussion
in
both
in
plant
salt
lake
and
the
west
side,
master
plan
about
access
to
healthy
foods
and
really
the
main
strategy
mentioned
in
those
plans,
talks
about
improving
access
to
healthy
foods,
and
so
that
can
be
done
through
community
gardens,
which
you
know
this
project
is
proposing
supporting
urban
agriculture.
G
But
again
they
mention
potential
strategies
or
recommendations,
but
maybe
outside
of
this
plan
development
approval.
I
also
wanted
to
speak
just
a
little
bit.
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
if
the
plan
development
is
not
approved,
it's
important
to
note
that
multi-family
homes
would
still
be
permitted
at
this
site.
G
They
would
lose
some
density
perhaps
and
would
likely
change
the
scale,
and
I
kind
of
talked
about
that
of
what
is
possible
by
right.
Just
through
a
building
permit
up
to
30
feet
and
perpendicular,
you
know
potential
perpendicular,
design
or
other
development,
so
staff
really
felt
that
this
was
a
good
proposal
that
met
the
plan,
development
objectives
and
standards.
C
Sorry,
I
have
one
one
question
I
just
wanted
to
ask
approximately
as
of
right
approximately,
how
many
housing
units
could
be
built
on
this
property.
G
G
But
again
we
you
know
kind
of
there
certainly
could
be
more
there.
There
isn't
a
requirement
for
as
many
amenities
and
this
arrangement
and
as
much
parking
and
that
they're,
going
above
and
beyond
on
a
number
of
those
features.
C
Thanks
and
mr
christian
just
you
know,
to
kind
of
build
on
that
in
this
zone,
the
cd
zone
as
the
building
grows
larger.
It
actually
has
to
go
through
design
reviews.
So
these
smaller
structures
aren't
required
to
kind
of
smaller
structures,
probably
more
in
scale
with
the
neighborhood
current
development
pattern,
but
if
they
were
to
grow
larger
than
that,
they
would
need
to
come
to
the
planning
commission
for
design
review.
C
R
R
As
eric
mentioned,
we're
in
a
zone
cb
where
multi-family
is
permitted-
and
I
agree
that
you
know
we
could
have
done
a
lot
more
units
in
sort
of
apartments
or
walk-ups,
but
we
really
believe
in
the
in
this
product
type.
We've
done
it
several
times,
including
on
the
west
side
and
they've,
proven
to
be
very
successful
and
and
affordable.
R
The
we're
lucky
that
the
master
plan
specifically
refers
to
this
intersection,
and
so
we
have
a
very
good
data
on
on
what
the
city
wanted
to
see
for
this
particular
site.
It
actually
describes
the
intersection
of
glen,
glendale
and
navajo
street.
R
And
the
result
of
the
of
the
master
plan
is
that
there's
just
not
enough
residential
density
to
support
retail,
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
the
original
business
there
is
failing
and
and
that
the
owner
sold
the
property,
and
it's
also
important
when
we
look
at
the
density
and
the
size
of
this
project
that
it
could
actually
help
solve
the
housing
problem
in
the
area,
at
least
so
we're
applying
for
plant
development
because,
of
course,
we're
designing
57
town
homes
and
it's
very
difficult
when
you
do
that
to
have
all
of
them
face
a
public
street.
R
So
we
had
we've
developed
a
set
of
private
streets
to
gain
access
and
open
areas
between
the
townhomes
we've
oriented
as
many
of
the
townhomes
as
possible
to
the
street.
It
would
have
been
possible,
like
eric
mentioned,
to
do
a
series
of
buildings
perpendicular
to
glendale
and
sort
of
ignore
the
the
the
street.
R
R
Also,
the
town
homes
are
designed,
as
eric
mentioned,
to
have
a
live
work
component,
so
we
felt
that
was
very
important
and
that's
true
for
all
the
town
homes
facing
both
public
streets,
so
it
represents
quite
a
a
large
percentage
of
them.
R
R
We
we've
provided
a
lot
of
amenities,
including
public
garden,
pickle
ball
playgrounds,
and
on
top
of
that,
these
are
open
to
the
public
and
we've
also
provided
a
lot
of
visitor
parking,
which
is
not
a
requirement,
but
we
wanted
to
have
it,
and
you
know
very
often,
neighbors
are
not
happy
when
developers
go
in
and
provide
an
underparked
project,
and
then
it
creates
parking
problems
in
the
whole
neighborhood,
so
we're
certainly
sensitive
to
that
and
with
regard
to
the
mobility,
I
think,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
public
amenities
on
our
site.
R
It
actually
gives
a
reason
for
the
public
to
to
move
through
the
project,
and
so
I
do
think
there's
a
level
of
public
connection
with
our
amenities
and
and
and
the
public,
but
that's
all
I
had
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Okay,
hang
on
we'll
go
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
I'll
open
the
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
who's
showing
up
here?
That
wants
to
speak.
C
We
do
have
a
couple
people
I'll
just
remind
people
if
they
came
late,
if
you'd
like
to
speak,
there's
a
little
hand
icon
on
the
bottom
right
hand
of
your
screen,
you're
going
to
want
to
click
that.
So
we
understand
that
you
would
like
to
speak
if,
for
some
reason,
you're
having
trouble,
you
can
always
send
us
an
email
at
planning.com
at
slcgov.com.
B
A
You
for
the
time
I
am
asking
the
committee
to
deny
the
glendale
town
house
project
this
proj
project
isn't
about.
Glendale
is
about
what's
best
for
the
project
isn't
about
glendale,
it
is
about
what's
best
for
our
community
or
our
quality
of
life.
I
am
a
homeowner
there
for
the
last
35
years.
I
live
right
across
the
street
from
on
on
the
street
of
glendale
avenue.
A
We
love
our
local
store.
We
love
our
community
and
the
way
of
life
that
the
pr
that
this
provides.
It
is
local,
which
means
a
lot
of
lot,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community
that
do
not
have
transportation
and
can
walk
to
the
store,
pick
up
formula
diapers
or
missing
missing
ingredients
for
their
dinner
at
night,
lots
of
young
people
and
old
walk
to
this
store.
There
is
a
senior
center
right
behind
the
store
that
some
of
those
seniors
will
go
over
and
get
staples
for
the
week.
A
They
do
not
drive,
they
walk
now.
Take
that
away.
It
is
now
replaced
by
57
town
homes
with
at
least
two
people
plus
per
unit.
This
additional
114
people,
most
of
which
will
have
vehicles
so
the
additional
traffic
additional
traffic
that
these
streets
can't
handle,
there's
already
so
much
traffic
at
the
intersection
just
throughout
the
day
and
night,
not
to
mention
the
pickup
and
drop
off
times
of
the
dual
immersion
academy
on
the
other
corner.
A
This
increased
traffic
will
then
need
a
traffic
light,
which
will
mean
nuisance
when
trying
to
sleep
at
night.
Our
streets
are
already
so
narrow
if
you
have
a
car
parked
on
either
side
of
the
street.
One
of
the
additional
cars
have
to
that
go
between
the
cars.
The
other
car
has
to
pull
over
and
wait
for
the
other
one
to
pass.
The
unit
on
glendale
the
units
on
glendale
avenue
will
be
able
to
look
directly
into
my
backyard,
no
privacy
whatsoever.
A
C
Yes,
I'm
an
unmute,
kristin
prosser.
She
put
up
a
check
mark
instead
of
a
hand,
but
I
want
to
see
if
she
wanted
to
speak
kristen.
Did
you
want
to
speak
on
this
item.
A
C
That's
just
fine,
I
assume
that's
what
you
wanted
so
go
ahead.
I.
M
Appreciate
two
minutes:
I
also
live
in
the
neighborhood.
I
have
similar
concerns
with
the
duo
immersion
academy
and
people
coming.
You
know
the
traffic
flow,
the
parking
there's
regular
accidents
because
of
people.
A
Hitting
cars
because
the
streets
are
so
narrow,
as
well
as
an
issue
of
wealthy
people
coming
in
and
buying
up
houses
and
renting
them
out,
and
you
know
what
community
are
we
making
with
more
rentals?
You
know
nobody's
staying
around.
Nobody
cares
about
the
community,
so
I
don't.
I
can't
see
that
really
building
a
community
again,
I'm.
C
Yep,
we
have
a
few
more
so
right
now
we'll
allow
you
pachuco
la
toro.
A
Hello,
my
name
rose
park
berets,
I'm
also
here
to
to
support
the
others
opposition
to
this
project.
I
hope
the
developers,
the
planning
commission
and
the
staff
planner
are
hearing
our
concerns.
The
glendale
luxury
town
homes
has
taken
away
a
necessity
when
an
important
resource
from
the
community
by
destroying
tijeda's
market
is
an
act
of
violence
towards
us.
Many
residents
rely
on
this
market
for
groceries.
A
The
tejada's,
the
head
of
the
market,
represents
our
community
there's
a
large
population
of
chicanos
latinos,
and
this
is
a
definition
of
what's
happening,
is
called
urban
colonization.
Gentrification
there's
our
community.
It's
a
it's
a
food
desert
out
here
on
the
west
side.
So
it's
by
taking
this.
You
know
people
a
lot
of
families
are
going
to
be
harmed,
and
I
ask
you:
please
plan
a
commission
to
have
to
please
listen
to
the
community
and
our
west
side.
A
C
A
So
my
name
is
susie
estrada,
I'm
speaking
personally,
but
also
professionally,
so
I
actually
work
at
dual
immersion
academy
and
I'll
speak
really
fast,
because
I
only
have
two
minutes.
So
this
development
looks
good
for
aesthetic
reasons
and.
F
A
Consumerism,
but
it
will
hurt
this
community.
The
problem
with
projects
like
this
being
built
is
that
those
who
already
live
in
that
area
do
not
work
jobs.
I
will
provide
them
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
afford
to
live
in
that
community
gentrification
has
its
benefits,
but
unfortunately
it
is
not
benefits
that
people
from
the
area-
those
who
have
called
it
home
for
decades
will
benefit
from.
We
see
that
through
what
we
know
about
gentrification,
and
so
I
would
like
to
first
call
it
what
it
is.
A
What
is
the
purpose
of
this
master
plan,
and
who
is
this
plan
set
to
serve
concerns
that
I
have
from
working
at
the
is
traffic
control?
So
when
we're
doing
dismissal
or
student
drop
off
these
streets
are
really
narrow.
In
theory,
it
might
sound
doable.
But
after
having
done
traffic
control,
I
can
tell
you
it
is
much
harder
than
it
seems.
We
have
requested
support
before
even
with
the
cross
guard,
and
that
has
gone
unanswered,
so
it
is
difficult
getting
resources
to
this
community.
A
I
also
have
concerns
about
what
type
of
businesses
will
we
be
bringing
in?
Will
they
help
to
build
stronger,
healthier
communities
or
will
it
be
for
the
benefit
of
others?
When
you
build
these
homes,
you
increase
rent
and
property
costs
for
the
families
that
the
founding
families
of
dia
intentionally
sought
out
to
serve.
This
location
was
selected
with
the
intent
of
being
able
to
provide
quality
education,
quality,
dual
immersion
to
families
that
otherwise
would
not
be
able
to
access
that.
So
when
I.
M
A
Will
grow
and
who
will
benefit
iconically
economically?
I
do
not
see
it
benefiting
our
families
with
community.
I
do
not
see
it
benefiting
our
families
and
with
prosperity
with
equity
with
quality
education.
I
also
don't
see
it
benefiting
our
families.
A
A
C
Yes,
violeta,
if
you
like
to
speak.
A
Hear
me
now:
yes,
we
can
okay,
hello,
I'm
violeta
and
I'm
concerned
about
this
development
and
its
interpretation
of
a
community
node.
This
development
gets
rid
of
an
actual
community
node
that
current
that
the
current
community
relies
on
for
basic
needs.
Like
groceries,
this
development
will
force
the
community
to
travel
farther
away
to
meet
these
needs.
A
So
this
development
is
basically
two
big
walls
that
excludes
the
current
community.
I
want
to
know
where,
in
the
planning
process,
the
current
community
actually
gets
taken
into
consideration.
Where
does
affordability
and
displacement
get
taken
into
account?
Is
the
planning
commission
the
place
to
voice
these
concerns,
or
where
should
we
be
going
to
talk
more
about
this?
A
That's
all.
I
have
to
say
thank.
B
A
C
I
We
did
receive
an
email
after
the
planning
commission
started,
so
I
will
just
read
this
into
the
record.
It
is
also
in
your
dropbox
for
reference.
I
This
is
from
madeleine
gerhardt.
I
urge
you
not
to
move
forward
with
the
glendale
luxury
homes
project.
I
urge
you
to
instead
find
opportunities
to
invest
in
existing
businesses
and
residents
of
that
community
gentrification
is
wrong.
The
businesses
and
communities
you
displace
through
gentrification,
for
example,
tahita's
market
to
name
one
from
this
particular
project
are
not
trashed
to
be
cleaned
up.
They
are
real
people
and
families
with
long
histories
in
the
area
put
the
residents
of
the
west
side.
B
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
the
discussion
back
to
the
planning
commission.
Commissioners:
do
you
have
questions
for
staff
or
for
the
applicant.
E
E
E
E
This
is
not
something
that
the
planning
commission
is
allowed
to
consider
traffic,
oddly
enough
is
also
not
something
the
planning
commission
is
allowed
to.
Consider
who
will
benefit
from
this
project
is
not
something
the
planning
commission
is
allowed
to
consider.
What
the
community
needs
is
not
something
that
the
planning
commission
is
allowed
to
consider.
I
know
this
sounds
really
crazy
and
it
seems
a
little
crazy
to
me
too,
but
that
is
we
operate
under
the
rules.
E
That
is
the
law,
that
is
the
land,
use
laws
of
the
both
the
state
and
of
the
city,
and
it
is
not
only
frustrating
to
you.
It
is
also
frustrating
to
us
in
many
ways
that
some
of
these
things,
which
seems
like
we
come
under
the
purview
of
planning,
are
something
that
we
we
we
can't
talk
about.
We
don't
talk
about
them,
but
we
can't
we
can't
actually
vote
one
way
or
another
based
on
those
requirements.
E
The
only
thing
we
can
vote
on
is
based
on
the
requirements
that
are
actually
in
the
law,
so
for
a
conditional
piece
like
this
planned
developments
using
plan
development
like
this,
there
are
particular
criteria
about
whether
or
not
we
can
approve
a
plan
development
or
not.
If,
unless
and
if
we
find
a
criteria
to
be
true,
then
we
pretty
much
have
to
approve
it.
E
So
so
I
apologize
in
way
in
in
a
certain
way
for
the
way
in
which
our
city
sort
of
operates,
that
we
can't
consider
many
of
the
very
important
and
legitimate
things.
If
you
would
like
to
change
this
way
of
planning
and
the
way
we're
looking
at
it
and,
for
example,
I
think
the
city
is
now
considering
some
gentrification
legislation
for
affordable
housing
legislation.
E
I
think
these
are
extremely
important
and-
and
those
are
things
which
the
city
council
can
approve,
so
I
I
would
get
definitely
get
involved
with
that
with
those
efforts
and
I
think
the
planning
department's
involved
with
that
too.
So
that's
my
frustration.
E
J
This
is,
this
is
amy
burroughs,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
read
the
public
comments
and
I
listened
to
them
today.
There's
also
a
letter
from
the
salt
lake
city,
food
policy
council
that
says
that
the
loss
of
this
grocery
store
is
going
to
be
a
loss
for
this
neighborhood,
and
I
hear
you
say
that,
and
I
totally
believe
you
and
I
don't.
J
J
But
the
question
that
we're
being
asked
is:
can
they
put
in
these
units
that
aren't
fronted
on
existing
roads?
That's
kind
of
the
question
that
we're
being
asked
right
now,
and
so
it's
a
loss
there.
There
should
be
a
grocery
store
in
that
neighborhood
and
somehow
maybe
there
will
be,
but
it's
not
a
thing
that
we
can.
I
think
the
food
policy
council
letter
said:
maybe
you
guys
should
require
a
healthy
food
store
on
that
property,
but
we
can't
require
more
than
the
zoning
rules
say.
J
You
know
57
families
that
also
need
to
buy
and
eat
food
that
are
going
to
live
there.
If
it
happens,
that
way,.
C
Based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing,
I
move
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
plan
development
request
for
the
glendale
townhomes
project
located
at
1179
south
navajo
street
for
petition
pln
pcm
2021-00378.
A
B
P
C
B
B
Thank
you.
This
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you,
commission.
I
think
it's
time
for
a
like
a
five
minute
break.
S
Hi,
thank
you.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
and
I
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
brief.
So
obviously
will
take
all
any
and
all
questions
about
process
or
when
we
get
to
that
point,
then
let
me
start
playing
this.
S
S
The
applicants
requesting
design
review
approval
for
28
feet
of
additional
building
height
and
then
there's
a
few
requests
made
through
the
plant
development
process,
so
relief
from
10
foot,
setbacks
for
front
corner
and
rear
yards
required
in
the
cg
zone,
along
with
relief
from
10
foot
front
and
corner
landscape
yards
and
then
the
cg
zone,
when
additional
height
is
approved
in
the
cg
zone.
That
generates
a
requirement
for
additional
landscape
based
on
the
square
footage
of
the
floor
area.
In
this
case,
that's
77
100
square
feet
of
additional
landscaping
that
is
required.
S
So
to
orient
you
to
the
site,
which
is
in
yellow
there,
we
are
in
the
granary.
The
site
is
on
the
southwest
corner
of
700,
south
and
400
west
and
existing
on
the
site.
There
is
a
warehouse
building
that
would
be
demolished
along
with
a
portion
of
the
site
that
is
currently
vacant.
S
S
There
is
a
north-south
mid-block
walkway
on
the
western
property
boundary
which
is
required
and
will
be
open
for
public
use
and
on
the
400
west
facade,
the
building
will
include
6
500
square
feet
of
commercial
space
and
then
the
700
south
facade
similar
square
footage
for
leasing,
office
and
resident
amenity
area.
The
building
includes
a
ground
floor,
outdoor
dining
area
and
a
private
seventh
floor.
Rooftop
deck.
S
So
the
mid-block
walkway
is
required
by
the
downtown
community
plan
and
provides
a
north-south
pedestrian
connection.
The
applicant's
proposing
that
it
will
be
16
feet
wide
along
their
length,
165
foot
length
of
their
building,
and
it
includes
a
sitting
space,
public
art
and
overhead
lights,
and
a
public
easement.
A
public
access
easement
will
be
recorded
against
the
property
and
I'm
including
this
transact
from
the
downtown
plan
to
show
you
the
opportunities
that
we've
identified
to
create
a
network
of
mid-block
walkways
and
enhance
the
pedestrian
opportunities
in
this
area.
S
So
that's
it
again,
just
that
rendering
for
standards
of
review.
We
looked
at
planning
staff
reviewed
the
base,
zoning
standards
for
the
general
commercial
zoning
district,
the
standards
for
plan
development
and
the
standards
for
design
review
and
then,
obviously
any
zoning
code
that
is
required
for
all
buildings
in
the
general
commercial
zoning
district
and
the
project
was
reviewed
against
the
master
plan
policies
in
the
downtown
community
plan.
Growing
slc
and
plan
salt
lake.
S
So
to
go
into
a
little
more
detail
on
those
modifications,
the
applicant,
so
the
area
in
red
you
see,
there
indicates
the
setback
area
that
the
applicant
is
requesting,
relief
from
and
then
outlined
in
green
are
the
areas
of
the
landscape
yard.
So
the
total
request
for
landscape
yard
relief
is
just
under
5
000
square
feet
of
area
and
of
that
area.
S
We
require
that
a
third
of
that
at
minimum
has
to
have
vegetation
which
would
equal
about
1600
square
feet
in
terms
of
the
additional
landscaping,
because
they're
asking
for
two
extra
floors
in
the
cg
zone
would
that
if
that
were
approved,
then
they
have
to
provide
10
of
landscaped
area
equal
to
the
or
an
area
equal
to
10
of
the
floor,
the
additional
floor
area
that's
been
approved,
and
so
in
this
case
it
comes
out
to
7
700
square
feet.
S
For
additional
building
height,
the
according
to
the
base
zone,
the
maximum
by
right
height
is
60
feet,
but
they
can
go
up
to
90
feet
with
design
refer
view
approval,
and
so
the
applicant
is
requesting
just
under
28
leads
of
additional
height
the
staff
reviewed
the
proposal
and
found
that
it
generally
complied
with
the
standards
for
design
review
related
to.
S
The
building
the
in
particular
staff,
looked
closely
at
standards
related
to
human
scale,
both
in
terms
of
mass
and
height.
S
So
the
applicant
has
presented
the
building
their
interpretation
of
base
middle
and
top
in
this
elevation
here,
and
they
have
divided
the
building
with
using
vertical
emphasis.
Colored
material
changes
along
with
articulation,
and
while
the
building
massing
has
a
step
back
on
the
rear
property
line.
It
doesn't
on
the
street,
facing
facades
and
through
review
staff
found
that
the
design
supports
city
plans
and
policies.
S
We
received
public
comment
and
much
of
that
is
in
your
dropbox.
The
downtown
ballpark
and
central
ninth
community
councils
put
together
a
joint
response
objecting
to
the
planned
development,
in
particular,
requests
related
to
landscape
yards
and
additional
landscaping,
and
would
like
to
see
more
vegetation
provided
in
the
proposal.
S
They
also
objected
to
the
absence
of
setbacks
and
the
length
of
the
building
and
were
concerned
that
the
building
fight
was
incompatible
with
the
warehouse
district
in
terms
of
additional
community
responses,
we
received
two
letters
objecting
to
the
proposal
and
five
letters
of
support
and
the
some
of
those
letters
just
came
in
today,
and
so
those
you
will
find
in.
S
The
first
suggested
condition
of
approval
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
a
request
that
the
applicant
provide
an
awning
of
four
feet
in
depth,
which
would
require
a
growth
encroachment
agreement.
Approval
with
all
the
relevant
departments
in
the
city
staff
believes
that
this
will
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
building
mass
and,
in
particular,
improve
the
relationship
of
the
building
height
to
human
scale,
which
I've
tried
to
illustrate
here.
S
Another
suggested
condition
is
to
delegate
to
planning
staff
approval
of
a
tree
form
with
a
spreading
canopy,
because
the
power
lines
on
700
south
will
remain
it
limits
potential
tree
height
and
by
using
a
tree
form.
The
initial
proposal
had
a
columnar
tree
form
using
a
spreading
tree
form.
It
would
help
to
create
a
more
human
scale,
space
on
the
sidewalk
and,
of
course
any
true
recommendation
would
need
to
meet
the
needs
of
both
our
urban
forestry
division,
as
well
as
any
of
the
utility
companies
that
have
infrastructure
in
that
area.
S
So,
based
on
the
findings
listed
in
the
staff
report,
it's
planning
staff's
opinion
that
the
project
meets
the
applicable
standards
and
therefore
recommends
the
planning
commission
approve
the
requests
with
the
following
conditions:
final:
approval
of
the
details
for
public
art
lighting,
streetscape
street
furniture,
mid
block,
walkway
and
sidewalk,
paving
as
well
as
landscaping
should
be
delegated
to
planning
staff
to
ensure
compliance
with
design
review
standards
and
the
downtown
community
plan
again
the
app
applicant
to
provide
an
awning
of
four
feet
in
depth.
S
So
again,
I
kind
of
threw
a
lot
at
you
at
once,
because
I
wanted
to
keep
the
meeting
going
but
have
been
happy
to
take
questions
and
the
apple
the
applicant
is
here
as
well.
Okay,.
S
So
I'll
try
not
to
make
you
dizzy
as
I
go
back
through
this.
S
This
mid-block
walkway,
so
it's
right
here,
the
yellow
is
the
proposal.
It
does
a
jog
here.
So
essentially,
when
this
parcel
to
the
south
of
this
proposal
gets
redeveloped.
That
developer
would
be
responsible
for
creating
a
connecting
walkway.
S
S
Yes,
so
what
happened
in
this
particular
location
is
there
is
an
existing
utility
easement
with
rocky
mountain
power
so
that
we
were
able
to
identify
that
as
a
good
location
for
the
the
mid
block
walkway
and
then
the
the
applicant
is
providing
an
additional
six
feet
to
have
a
wider
walkway
and
yeah.
This
is
one
of
the
issues
that
we
do.
S
Experience
with
the
with
our
mid-block
walkways
is
there's
a
bit
of
a
piecemeal
process
to
how
they're
put
together,
which
is
something
that
we're
very
aware
of,
and
you
know,
full
disclosure
as
the
urban
designer.
It's
like
next
on
my
to-do
list
to
complete
our
draft
mid-block
walkways
design
guidelines.
S
S
E
I
have
a
question
for
laura.
It's
a
very
nice
staff
report,
I'm
I.
What
are
we
getting
for
not
allow
not
for
no
open
space.
S
S
We
are
also
getting
street
engagement,
so
you
know
they've,
provided
these
large
windows
so
in
for
the
most
part,
it
really
does
comply
with
our
design
review
standards
related
to
pedestrian
engagement,
but.
E
C
L
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
I
I've
been
in
front
of
you
many
times
before.
For
those
who
don't
know
me,
I'm
james
alfondre,
I'm
the
owner
of
urban
alfondre,
a
local
company
that
works
to
improve
neighborhoods
in
the
city
through
high
design,
disruptive
housing
and
thoughtful
implementation.
L
Since
our
last
planning
commission
meeting,
one
of
our
goals
now
is
to
stay
in
amy's
top
3
threshold
of
projects
she
likes,
especially
with
this
one.
We
are
headquartered
in
the
granary
district.
This
is
our
neighborhood.
We
take
very
seriously
the
task
of
creating
projects
that
add
enduring
value
to
the
neighborhoods
in
which
they're
located,
especially
here
in
the
granary.
L
We
went
through
a
couple
iterations
with
planning
staff
to
get
to
this
point
and
are
very
proud
of
the
proposal
and
the
positive
recommendation
from
staff.
It
means
a
lot
to
us
before
I
get
started.
I
want
to
give
just
a
quick
background
on
my
history
in
the
neighborhood
for
the
past
11
years,
I've
worked
in
this
neighborhood,
starting
with
a
non-profit
organization
that
I
led
to
crowdsource
the
revitalization
of
the
granary
district.
We
threw
a
bunch
of
parties
block
parties.
L
We
got
a
pump
cart
to
go
along
the
abandoned
rail
on
fourth
west.
To
hopefully
have
a
streetcar
come
down
here
and
show
everyone
what's
possible
in
our
neighborhood
and
and
since
then,
we've
done
a
lot
of
branding.
We
created
the
logo
with
the
rda.
L
We
also
had
a
plan
a
seven
day,
planning
workshop
in
the
warehouse
across
from
pacific
yard
that
really
set
out
a
plan
for
the
future
for
the
granary
that
included
active
ground
floor
uses
how
to
mitigate
the
scale
of
our
really
wide
streets
and
other
implementations,
including
the
mid
block
walkways
that
have
now
been
implemented
in
the
downtown
master
plan
that
has
been
adopted
by
the
city.
L
We
brought
in
street
trees
and
gardens
and
retail
in
the
middle
of
the
street
to
make
a
more
hospitable,
pedestrian
environment,
as
you
spend
any
time
in
the
granary,
it's
one
of
our
biggest
detriments,
our
really
wide
streets
and
our
low
buildings
that
create
this.
This
really
inhospitable
pedestrian
environment,
granary
row
is
a
shipping
container
development
that
we
did
and
to
prove
this
point
of
creating
a
better
scale
in
our
neighborhood.
L
We're
requesting
setback
reductions
to
create
a
continuous
street
wall
and
to
also
be
in
line
with
the
established
neighborhood
patterns
that
are
currently
found
in
the
neighborhood
of
no
setbacks,
and
also
to
create
a
better
pedestrian
scale
and
comfort.
L
We
achieve
master
plan
goals
by
creating
6
500
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
not
just
gyms
or
lobby
space,
but
active
commercial
space
to
create
a
more
livable
city
that
has
increased
walkability
and
access
to
services
in
this
neighborhood
we're
increasing
the
housing
stock
in
the
granary,
which
is
a
big
issue.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
people
living
here.
L
We
need
to
really
increase
the
housing
stock
in
the
granary
district,
especially
with
a
proposed
potential
trax
line
connecting
the
granary
to
downtown
along
fourth
west,
also
to
incorporate
the
mid
block
walkway
and
provide
missing
or
mid-rise
housing
and
small
local
service
retail.
To
help
make
the
granary
a
complete
neighborhood.
L
L
L
L
There's
no
street
engagement,
it's
set
back
10
feet,
but
they
don't
have
to
do
the
design
requirements
any
ground
floor
activation
and,
if,
frankly,
if
we
get
more
projects
like
this
built
by
right,
it's
really
going
to
kind
of
stump
our
growth
of
becoming
the
neighborhood
that
that
we
want
to
be
so.
What
we're
offering
is
a
more
enhanced
product,
like
I
said,
we're
adding
commercial
space
along
fourth
west
and
seventh
south
the
the
plan
is,
is
outdated.
L
We
had
it
just
along
seventh
south,
but
we're
we're
bookending
the
corners
of
retail
space
to
have
them
along
both
streets,
we're
creating
a
design,
aesthetic
that
we
worked
hard
on
to
create
this
ground
floor,
warehouse,
aesthetic
that
you
find
in
the
neighborhood
with
large
warehouse
windows
and
masking
that
we
currently
find
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
residential
portion.
L
As
you
can
see,
this
is
the
current
aesthetic
that
gave
us
inspiration.
This
is
now
a
food
hall
and
office
space.
This
is
a
building
that
is,
has
zero
setbacks.
This
is
across
the
street
as
well.
L
Another
warehouse
building,
one
thing
we
find
in
the
granary
district
is
that
there's
an
over
scaled
warehouse
feel
that
we
want
to
enhance
and
use,
while
also
creating
more
pedestrian-scaled
elements
to
to
break
down
that
overscaled
feel
again
building
across
the
street,
that
has
zero
setbacks
and
so
again,
an
enhanced
product
of
really
really
focusing
on
the
pedestrian
experience
we're
blessed
with
these
really
wide
rights
of
ways
down
here,
but
also
cursed
by
them.
L
L
A
typical
street
in
the
granary,
we're
looking
at
the
pacific
yard,
building
granary
camp
is
here
and
the
the
car
museum
to
the
left
it
it's
it.
It's
not
very
fun
walking
on
these
streets
and
crossing
these
streets,
it's
132
feet
from
from
lot
line
to
lot
line,
and
if
we
were
to
keep
setting
buildings
back
even
farther,
then
this
becomes
more
inhospitable,
so
getting
buildings
with
good
height
and
good
street
engagement
on
the
property
lines,
while
enhancing
the
existing
park
strip
is
the
best
way
to
continue.
L
You
know
adding
value
of
pedestrian
viability,
pedestrian
activity
to
to
the
neighborhood.
As
laura
said,
we
we
initially
provided
some
more
columnar
trees,
but
we're
working
with
as
a
condition
to
provide
more
canopy
spreading
trees,
we're
limited
on
the
seventh
south
due
to
the
power
lines,
but
we're
going
to
be
providing
more
spreading
canopy
trees.
But
these
sections
that
show
4th
west
and
7th
south
really
allow
us
to
bring
the
building
to
the
property
line
really.
C
L
The
scale
of
our
very
wide
streets
and
with
the
park
strip
at
a
really
nice
pedestrian
experience,
as
you
can
see
that
this
is
this,
is
exactly
what
we're
proposing
and
what
we're.
What
we're
trying
to
achieve.
L
L
The
mid
block
walkways
laura
said
we're
adding
an
extra
six
feet,
so
the
the
we
are
creating
a
16
foot
wide
mid-block
walkway
here
that
we're
going
to
continue
working.
We're
actually
really
excited
about
this
design,
but
we're
excited
to
continue
working
with
planning
staff
to
really
dial
in
the
design
to
make
sure
it's
designed
properly
and
it's
it.
It's
even
more
engaging
for
for
the
pedestrian
and
the
user
of
that
space.
L
L
We
are
more
invested,
you
know,
as
anyone
in
in
implementing
the
master
plan
and
city
initiatives
and
neighborhood
initiatives
here
in
the
granary
district.
We
also
need
to
set
the
bar
high
for
the
granary
district,
because
a
lot
is
going
to
start
happening
here
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
done
right
and
pacific
yard
can
be
looked
to
as
as
setting
a
good
precedence
for
for
creating
the
neighborhood
that
we've
all
been
working
so
hard
to
achieve.
B
Thank
you
any
questions
for
the
applicant
right
now.
M
L
L
L
E
L
Correct
you
know
we
we've
we've
handled
a
couple
different
ways.
We
we
always
like
to
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood.
Sooner
than
later,
for
for
pacific
yard,
we
were
excited
to
present
to
them
at
their
community
council
meetings,
which
usually
then
starts
to
kick
off
a
dialogue
which
which
we're
used
to
we've
gone
through
this
process
a
lot
of
times
before,
but
we
didn't
get
in.
D
There
seems
to
be
some
confusion,
whether
there's
a
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
a
question
for
the
applicant
or
planning
staff,
but
there
seems
to
be
some
confusion
as
to
what
the
applicant
is
actually
asking
for
relative
to
what
whether
the
community
council
is
asking
I
I
am
confused.
I
see
that
my
packet
has
a
whole
bunch
of
back
and
forth
and
I
don't
I
lost
the
chain
of
of
what
is
going
on
I'll,
be
totally
honest
here
with
what
has
there's
been.
D
L
L
We
were
honestly
a
little
surprised
from
that
letter
because
not
only
were
we
an
applicant
but
we're
also
property
owners
in
these
neighborhoods
who
are
active
in
the
community
councils
and
there
there
there
wasn't
any
ever
follow-up
from
us
as
an
applicant
or
as
a
further
community
council
meeting
to
talk
about
what
would
to
talk
about
the
pacific
yard.
So
it
caught
us
by
surprise
as
well,
because
we're
used
to
a
more
dialogue
if
there
are
concerns.
J
This
is
sorry
andrew.
If
you're
not
then
no
go
ahead.
This
is
amy
burroughs,
so
you
have
a
nice.
You
have
you're
putting
in
26
new
trees
but
they're
in
the
park
the
park
strip,
which
don't
you
have
to
don't
you
have
to
plant
that
anyway,.
L
We
are
adding
6
500
square
feet
of
ground
floor
commercial
space
which
is
not
required
by
zoning
so
in
in
lieu
of
a
landscape
buffer.
We
are
not
only
asking
to
to
wave
that
because
we
want
to
keep
a
consistent
urban
wall
with
the
existing
development
pattern
of
the
neighborhood.
J
And
I
I
assume,
maybe
I
hope
that
you've
seen
the
feedback
from
the
community
councils.
That
said,
look
at
look
at
this
part
of
the
neighborhood
in
this
part
of
the
neighborhood,
where
there
are
no
trees
and
there's
no
landscape
buffer
anywhere.
I
mean
you're
right,
I'm
looking
at
that
street
and
it's
just
buildings
up
against
the
road,
but
maybe
that's
what
they're
trying
to
avoid
by
having
that
landscape
buffer
required.
L
Well
again,
but
by
zoning
we
so
so
this
project
is,
this
project
is
done
by
right
with
a
landscape
buffer
quote
unquote.
L
What
we're
providing
is
a
better
experience
from
a
landscape
buffer
and
and
to
be
honest.
Yes,
an
industrial
neighborhood
is
much
different
than
a
resi,
an
established
residential
neighborhood
10
blocks
to
the
east,
of
course,
they're
going
to
be
more
trees
and
a
bigger,
more
established
canopy
there
than
an
industrial
neighborhood.
L
So
what
we
are
required
to
provide
those
trees
in
the
park
strip
which
achieves
city
goals
of
urban
forestry
goals
of
urban
heating
and
and
and
and
these
other
issues
that
were
achieving
those
in
the
park
strip
to
provide
a
landscape
buffer
and
and
set
our
building
back
10
feet,
we
believe
is,
is
is,
as
you
can
see,
here,
isn't
a
better
product
than
than
what
we're
providing
with
I
mean,
essentially,
instead
of
creating
a
10-foot
landscape
buffer,
we're
creating
conditioned
commercial
space,
but.
E
L
E
You
know
you
have
been
relying
on
your
experience
and
this
and
your
your
desire
for
a
better
neighborhood.
I
would
question
whether
you
would
you
personally
and
alfran
developers
would
would
actually
do
a
project
that
looks
like
this.
You
wouldn't
under
you
know,
even
under
any
kind
of
zoning
conditions,.
L
D
L
D
L
Is
it
is
that
is
that
derek
into
staff
or
to
myself.
D
L
J
F
I
think
so.
This
is
john
john.
Let
me
jump
in
really
quick,
because
this
is
something
I
think
we're
missing
a
little
bit
as
typically
in
a
lot
of
these
developments.
The
ground
floor
ends
up
being
a
lobby
for
the
the
building.
It
ends
up
being
a
gym
for
the
building.
It
ends
up
being
a
pass-through
to
get
to
the
parking,
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
compromise,
opposed
to
a
blanket
overlay
of
extra
greenery
that
takes
water
which
we're
in
a
water
shortage.
F
So
I
don't
see
a
need
to
add
more
greenery
to
a
project
when
there's
great
street
trees,
the
the
roadway
is
very
wide,
as
mentioned.
I
think
a
project
like
this
that
engages
the
street
and
and
includes
this
amount
of
retail
is
what
we
need
more
of.
We
need
more
projects
that
actually
bring
retail
to
our
our
cit.
Our
neighborhoods
instead
of
lobbies,
because
usually
the
entire
ground
floor,
would
be
a
lobby-
that's
not
accessible
to
the
public
in
any
way.
F
If
you
start
to
push
that
back,
that
becomes
less
attractive
to
businesses
that
could
actually
use
these
spaces
and
you're
going
to
trade
that
access
to
amenities
for
the
public
for
plants
that
are
going
to
die
because
we're
in
a
drought.
So
that's
those
are
my
two
cents
on
on
the
setback.
I
think
that
it's
it's
nice
in
some
instances,
but
I
think
in
this
instance
it
engages
the
street
much
better
if
it's
actually
pushed
out
a
little
bit
further
to
kind
of
help
narrow
visually
our
streets
that
are
massive.
O
A
C
I
also
agree
with
john
and
I
was
about
to
jump
in
with
with
similar
comments,
but
he
probably
said
it
better
than
I
could
have.
B
P
P
Terrific
thank
you
hi,
I'm
amy
hawkins,
I'm
chair
of
the
ballpark
community
council
and
we
did
submit
a
letter
that
represents
a
consensus
between
central
ninth
downtown
and
the
ballpark
community
councils
and
first
I
I
do
think
that
I
can
speak
a
bit
to
the
lack
of
follow-up.
There's
been
a
change
of
leadership
in
the
central
ninth
community
council.
They
are
currently
without
a
chair,
and
I
know
there
there
have
been
a
lot
of
internal
debates
about
what
they
can
do
next.
P
I
know
that
you
all
as
volunteers,
in
your
capacity
as
the
planning
commission,
have
to
understand
that
the
number
of
development
proposals
and
the
city
engagement
projects
that
our
neighborhoods
receive
and
are
asked
to
participate
in
is,
is
frankly
overwhelming,
and
so
they
have
my
sympathies
and
empathies.
P
Our
communities
do
share
serious
concerns
about
the
proposal
continuing
to
perpetuate
and
maybe
even
exacerbate
disparities
in
green
space
and
tree
canopy
between
east
side
and
west
side
communities.
P
Many
of
the
people
who
drafted
and
contributed
to
the
letter
we
submitted
were
part
of
the
draft
ballpark
station
area
plan
planning
group
that
collected
public
comment
and
while
that
plan
hasn't
been
approved,
yet
you
guys
get
to
do
that
soon.
I
hope,
while
we
acknowledge
that
this
project
is
two
blocks
north
of
that
area,
this
means
that
we
are
part
of
a
multi-year
process
that
repeatedly
identified
green
space
as
one
of
the
neighborhood's
top
concerns.
I
counted
green
spaces
mentioned
nine
separate
times
in
that
draft
plan.
P
P
So
to
quote
from
the
area
plan
draft
the
salt,
lake
city
parks
and
public
lands
need
assessment
identified
the
neighborhood
as
an
area
of
greater
need
for
green
space.
This
area
is
likely
to
receive
much
of
the
city's
future
growth.
Yet
it
has
the
lowest
level
of
service
for
parks
in
the
city
at
2.8
park,
acres
per
1000
compared
to
a
city-wide
level
of
3.5
city-owned
and
managed
park
acres.
P
P
Those
of
you
familiar
with
the
historical
redlining
maps,
know
that
this
area
of
salt
lake
city
has
been
historically
classified
with
a
dean
d
rating
meaning
hazardous
and
according
to
the
mapping
inequality
project
at
the
university
of
richmond,
this
area
of
salt
lake
still
experiences
health
disparities
compared
to
our
neighbors
east
of
state
street.
We
know
that
from
professor
alessandro's
work
that
disadvantaged
groups
experience
stronger
health
protective
effects
from
green
space
because
of
their
greater
dependency
on
these
proximal
green
spaces.
P
B
Thank
you
who's
next
to
speak.
B
Okay,
do
we
have
any
emails.
I
I
I
I
I
I
have
seen
the
design
and
plans
for
the
project
can
welcome
the
retail
component
along
700
south,
which
I
feel
can
be
the
best
retail
plus
food
and
beverage
quarter
within
the
granary
district.
Having
worked
in
various
markets,
including
those
in
salt,
lake
city
and
portland,
as
well
as
consulting
on
projects
and
other
urban
sites.
I
know
of
no
example
where
such
a
setback
has
resulted
in
creating
community
space
nor
benefited
retail
food
and
beverage
uses
for
the
adjacent
property
or
the
neighborhood.
I
I
would
happy
to
speak
on
behalf
of
street
retail
and
appropriate
design
considerations
with
you
or
members
of
the
planning
commission,
if
requested,
the
proposed
setback
for
some
kind
of
quote
token
space
end
quote,
seems
well
intended,
but
poorly
conceived
being
a
longtime
fan
of
quote
a
pattern.
Language
quote:
1977
oxford
university,
press
by
christopher
alexander.
I
can
find
no
sub
design
support
for
the
proposed
setback
concept.
I
B
D
So
agree,
the
setbacks
are
not
useful
and
we
want
people
shopping
and
doing
things,
but
I'm
also
super
sympathetic
to
the
green
space.
I've
lived
in
a
heat
island.
I
lived
in
phoenix,
you
don't
want
to
be
phoenix,
you
just
don't,
and
so
I'm
wondering
for
the
developer.
How
much
is
it
going
to
add
to
your
costs,
preferably
on
a
per
unit
basis,
if
you
added
a
rooftop
garden,
because
I
understand
this
is
a
trade-off
that
is
going
to
increase
costs
per
unit
and
raises
rents
and
that's
unfortunate.
B
L
A
J
E
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
is
what
we're
getting
what
what
is?
What
is
what
is
it
that
the
city
is
getting?
What
is
it
that
the
community
is
getting
in
response
to?
I
mean
okay,
the
design
review
allows,
which
requires
an
activated
street
frontage,
allows
you
to
go
two
stories
higher.
We
haven't
even
talked
about
that.
We
haven't
even
discussed
that,
but
that
allows
you
to
do
that.
So
that's
a
trade-off
that
we've
already
that
we've
already
made.
We
can't
you
can't
trade
that
again
for
something
else,
all
right.
E
L
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
guess,
being
part
of
the
neighborhood
you're
right
I
mean
our
full
intention
is
to
divide
those
up
and
and
create
them
as
commercial
spaces.
Brenda.
I
will
say
this.
I
will
say
this:
we
are
adding
quite
a
bit
of
landscape,
we're
adding
nine
trees
in
the
courtyard
that
that's
something
we
could.
We
could
work
with
the
staff
on
on
creating
some
more
landscaping
opportunities
in
the
in
the
courtyard.
C
If
I
could
just
for
a
second
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
using
the
term.
What
is
the
city
getting?
Are
we
trying
to
get
things?
I
mean
we
nearly
need
to
look
at
this
project
and
say:
does
it
meet
the
standards
they're
asking
for
additional
height
and
so
we're
saying
you're
going
through
this
process?
Are
you
meeting
the
standards?
C
J
Right
well
so
the
actual
standard,
though,
is
the
setback
and
the
landscaping,
though,
so
that's
a
that's
a
thing
we
don't
have
to
that.
That's
like
we're
not
just
saying
it
would
be
great
to
have
green
space
in
the
setback
or
in
in
whatever
way,
that's
actually
a
standard
right.
C
J
C
Well,
it
was
built
in
an
era
when
landscaping
wasn't
required
and
just
you
know,
any
landscape
yard
only
has
to
be
one-third
vegetation.
Laura
brought
this
up.
It
doesn't
necessarily
require
additional
trees.
It's
just
it
could
be
ground
cover,
it
could
be
bushes,
but
it
would
have
to
be
at
least
one-third
landscapes.
J
A
F
Can
can
I
can
I
just
jump
in
for
a
second.
This
is
john.
I
guess
my
question
would
be
if,
if,
if
the
community
had
more
comments,
they
they
would
have
voiced
more
comments.
There
was
only
one
person
that
spoke.
I,
I
guess
you
know
we
keep
asking.
What
what
are
we
gaining
and
my
question
would
be:
what
are
we
losing
so
are
we
going
to
add
more
trees
along
both
sides
of
the
sidewalk
or
what
like?
F
What
does
that
buffer
really
do
for
you
and
the
whole
reason
this
process
exists
is
when
things
don't
match
up
with
a
prescriptive
zoning,
which
is
basically
putting
a
percentage
of
landscape
over
top
of
an
existing
zone.
But
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
evaluate
it
as
people
and
make
a
decision
whether
this
is
a
better
use
of
that
space.
That
10
feet.
F
Is
it
better
to
have
ground
plants
because
there's
already
street
trees
that
are
going
to
provide
shade
to
the
walkway?
So
that's
already
addressed,
there's
already
trees,
so,
what's
better
use
what's
highest
highest
and
best
use
of
the
space?
Is
it
to
provide
an
amenity
to
the
neighborhood
that
people
can
actually
inhabit
or
to
provide
plants
that
may
or
may
not
live
and
a
place
for
people
to
just
fit
in
in
the
grass
versus
a
place
where
people
can
actually
engage
in
a
building
and
and
have
some
sort
of
a
benefit?
F
We
just
went
through
this
on
a
a
previous
project
where
we
were
talking
about
losing
a
store
that
was
a
keystone
to
a
neighborhood
because
of
a
development.
This
is
adding
stores
to
a
neighborhood
which
could
become
keystones
and
so
that's
my
argument
is:
I
don't
understand
trading
that
for
grass,
when
we,
if
we
really
want
to
add
more
grass
to
that
to
this
neighborhood,
take
out
a
street
slow,
the
traffic
down
and
add
grass
in
the
streets,
but
that's
up
to
the
city
to
make
that
decision.
J
E
Satisfied
and
I
think
actually
the
fact
that
the
that
the
developer
did
not
go
to
the
to
these
councils
far
before
long
before
is,
is
kind
of
an
issue
for
me
that
that
they
they
they're
not
required
to
exactly,
but
but
you
do
run
into
these
situations
where
you
know
the
presentation,
literally
a
month
before
the
planning
commission
reviews.
E
This
project
is
a
little
late
and
you
know
that
planet
and
they
they
only
did
that
when
they
were
when
when
they
got
the
message
from
the
planners,
it
wasn't
the
developers
who
approached
them.
It
was
the
planners
who
said
this
is
in
your
neighborhood.
This
is
coming
down,
so
for
me,
I
think
it's
it
is,
has
not
had
the
opportunity
to
have
the
exchange
with
the
community.
That
would
result
in
a
better
solution.
I'm
with
john.
I
don't
want
the
10
foot
step
back.
I
don't
want
it.
E
E
Excuse
me
dividing
up
this
frontage,
so
it
isn't
for
330
feet
long
and
it
and
has
more,
maybe
a
a
place
in
the
middle
of
it.
Where
there's
a
little
garden,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
options
that
are
besides
the
roof
deck
or
other
things
like
that.
There's
some
more
there's
some
options
waiting.
Maybe
it
is
just
a
wider
walkway.
Maybe
it's
the
park
in
the
back
of
the
walkway.
E
I
don't
know,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
it
ought
to
be
something,
and
that
is
something
that
it
that,
which
should
be
something
that's
looked
at
with
the
community.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
brenda.
I
I
want
to
respond
a
couple
to
a
couple
things
john
said.
One
we
can
plant
plants
that
are
will
do
well
in
these
conditions.
So
I
don't,
I
think,
that's
a
little
disingenuous
to
say,
they're
all
going
to
die,
yeah
we're
not
going
to
plant
green
grass.
Nobody
wants
to
see
in
green
grass.
I
also
think
it's
not
totally
the
comparison
with
the
grocery
store
owner.
We
can't
change
what
an
existing
landowner
wants
to
do
with
their
land.
So
I
don't
think.
D
That's
that's
not
a
fair
comparison
here
this
I
there
is
a
reason
we
have
these
setback
requirements
now,
maybe
they're
silly,
but
if
there's
a
purpose
of
them,
I
guess
I'm
somewhat
sympathetic.
What
I
am
struggling
with
is,
I
don't
have
enough
of
an
ecology
background
to
understand
how
much
these
setbacks
would
add,
vegetation
and
and
sort
of
improve
our
air
quality,
and
I
just
don't.
D
S
So
this
is
the
you
know,
ecology,
I
have
friends
who
always
say:
ecology
is
a
soft
science.
I
I
think
it's
really
hard
to
evaluate,
because
there's
so
many
different
factors
involved.
One
thing
to
remember
is
that
that
long
facade
on
south
on
700
south
is
north
facing,
so
that
it's
going
to
be
in
shade
anyway,
essentially
for
much
of
the
year.
S
D
S
I
mean
we
can
look
at
the
square
footage
of
landscaping
vegetation
required
in
the
landscape
yards,
which
I
went
over
in
the
presentation.
I
think
it
works
out
to
be
about
it's
1650
square
feet
right
like
if
they
went
to
just
you
know
we're
gonna.
Do
it
to
code
by
the
letter.
The
minimum
is
that's
the
minimum
they
they're
required
to
provide
in
those
yards.
J
J
Maybe
to
readdress
not
just
waving
all
of
the
setbacks
and
vegetation
may
be
making
a
better
compromise
on
that.
F
And
perhaps
this
is
andres,
perhaps
maybe.
A
C
Yeah,
I
think
so
it's
just
it's
helpful
for
us,
as
well
as
the
applicant,
to
make
sure
we're
addressing
those
issues
that
you're
most
concerned
with.
C
I
That's
okay.
I
I
do
have
a
question.
This
is
kelsey.
Are
you
amending
your
motion
to
table
based
on
andreas's
suggestion
to
work
with
the
community
councils
and
if
so,
I
think
we
need
clarification
on
what
that
looks.
Like
the
community
councils
received
notice
of
this
of
these
petitions
on
december
1st
and
with
the
three
of
them
lara
worked
with
all
three
community
councils
to
schedule,
one
meeting
as
opposed
to
three
separate
meetings,
so
we
could
get
all
the
feedback
at
that
time.
D
J
B
J
Okay,
so
I
my
motion
is
that
we
that
this,
the
planned
development
and
design
review
for
the
pacific
yards
is
tabled,
that
we
that
maybe
it's
revisited
to
seek
a
different
redress
of
the
setbacks
than
what's
been
proposed
tonight.
J
J
B
Let's,
let's
vote
on
this
to
table
this
and
send
it
back
to
staff
to
work
on
brenda?
Yes,
amy,
yes,
andra.
J
B
F
B
A
B
C
F
B
M
Okay,
this
is
a
request
by
bert
holland,
representing
the
property
owner
for
to
reason:
the
property
at
858,
west
and
860
west
place
from
r1
5000
single
family
residential
to
sr3
special
development
pattern.
Residential
the
property
is
approximately
1700
square
feet,
0.39
acres
and
the
intent
of
the
rezone
is
to
increase
the
development
potential
of
the
property.
M
M
Standards
of
review
presenting
map
amendments
are
consistency
of
the
city's
master
plan
goals
and
policies
supporting
the
purposes
of
a
zoning
ordinance.
The
impact
of
the
amendment
on
adjacent
properties,
consistency
with
applicable
overlay
districts
and
adequacy
of
public
facilities,
infrastructure.
M
So,
while
looking
at
this
rezone
request,
the
subject
properties
are
in
the
north
temple
north
temple
boulevard
plan,
it's
white
places
in
the
800
west,
stable
area,
which
is
cited
as
a
location
where
residential
infield
development
is
appropriate
and
encouraged.
M
Compatibility
with
adjacent
properties,
so
the
sr3
zone
is
a
medium
density
zone.
That's
intended
for
mid-block
streets
that
are
typically
found
throughout
older
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
M
The
zone
allows
for
residential
infill
development
that
includes
single-family
detached
single-family
attached,
twin
homes
and
two
family
dwellings.
The
purpose
of
the
zone
is
to
find
provide
housing
options
that
are
in
scale
and
compatible
with
surrounding
development.
M
So
this
is
just
a
little
history
on
white
place
so
other
than
the
subject
properties
there's
only
one
existing
single
family
home,
and
I
I
labeled
these
corresponding
on
the
map
and
then
the
property
owner
of
this
petition
also
owns
the
property
to
the
east
and
they
receive
planned
development,
approval
for
six
single
family
attached
units
and
four
single-family
detached
and
then
number
three
is:
there's
a
plan.
M
Zoning
comparison,
so
the
sr3
zone
allows
additional
residential
uses
more
than
the
r15000.
The
r15000
just
allows
them
single
family
detached
these
uses
include
the
single
family
attached
to
family
and
twin
homes.
M
And
then
the
housing
loss
mitigation,
so
any
petition
for
a
zoning
change
that
would
permit
a
non-residential
use
of
land
must
complete
a
housing
loss
mitigation
plan.
The
sr3
zone
allows
some
non-residential
uses.
Some
examples
are
day,
cares:
government
facilities,
schools
and
urban
farms.
M
The
applicants
were
proposing
replacement
housing
but
they're
not
proposing
to
tear
down
the
existing
pumps
which
are
shown
in
the
photo.
So
if
the
zone
is
if
the
reason
is
approved
by
the
city,
council,
they'll
apply
for
a
plan
development
and
then,
if
that's
approved,
there'll
be
a
net
increase
in
housing.
M
The
two
homes
are
on
the
top
that
are
existing
and
then
I
have
a
photo
of
the
other
existing
single
family
home,
that's
on
white
place,
and
these
these
homes
were
built
in
maybe
1898
1900,
so
they're
they're,
quite
old.
M
M
So
the
fair
park
community
council
did
not
provide
comments
and
planning
staff
did
not
receive
any
comments
for
or
against
the
proposal.
Until
the
meeting
had
just
about
started,
I
received
an
email
from
the
rose
park,
brown
berets,
which
I'll
read
into
the
record
it
states.
M
We
are
proposing
the
zoning
map
amendment
because
the
property
owners
and
developers
are
planning
to
build
luxury
homes
in
the
community
that
no
one
can
afford
and
will
displace
low-income
working-class
families.
There
are
homes
that
exist
there.
We
have
seen
many
times
before
that
when
real
estate
agents
and
property
owners
raise
on
their
property,
they
always
demolish
affordable
housing
and
place
families,
displaced
families
for
luxury
apartments
and
or
town
homes
oppose
this
zoning
map
amendment
by
the
property.
M
Thank
you
unquote
and
then
just
to
clarify
with
this
proposal
they
are
not
proposing
to
demolish
the
existing
housing.
If
it's
approved,
and
so
staff's
recommendation
is
based
on
this
information.
The
staff
report
planning
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
the
proposed
zoning
map
amendment
at
858
and
860
west
quake
place
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
Will
this
rezone
prevent
the
demolition
of
those
homes
so
will
it
require
they're
not
demolished.
M
With
so
with
the
as
a
part
of
when
they
go
to
city
council
they'll
enter
into
a
development
agreement
with
this
city,
which
will
require
them
to
maintain
housing.
I'm
not
sure
if
that
will
specifically
state
that
they
can't
rebuild,
but
they
they
won't
be
able
they'll
be
tied
into
their
replacement,
housing
choice.
O
A
O
A
Just
thanks
amanda
for
a
good
staff
report.
Thank
all
of
you
for
your
time,
especially
now
in
the
evening
just
to
clarify
we
are
already
renovating.
I
mean
I've
been
doing
this
myself
to
some
extent
both
existing
single-family
homes
on
the
properties
and
we
have
families
anxiously
waiting
to
move
in.
We
also
have
buyers
for
the
additional
single-family
homes
that
we
will
submit
for
planned
development
approval.
A
I
grew
up
in
rose
park
and
planned
to
move
in
with
a
multi-generational
family
as
well.
We
hope
to
obtain
the
approval
for
the
rezone
quickly
so
that
we
can
proceed
to
the
next
step
with
the
plan
development
application.
Thanks
again,
that's
all
I
would
have
to
say.
B
B
Okay
and
no
emails,
I
assume
that's
correct.
Thank
you,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
E
E
C
B
I
I
All
right,
this
is
a
request
for
a
zoning
tax
amendment
petition
from
stephen
pace
to
permit
the
restoration
or
reconstruction
of
a
historic
carriage
house
for
the
purposes
of
creating
a
dwelling
unit.
Stephen
pace,
the
property
owner
of
the
beer
estate,
located
at
222
fourth
avenue
and
181
b
street,
is
requesting
the
proposed
amendment
in
an
effort
to
provide
an
incentive
to
reconstruct
or
restore
a
historic
carriage
house
on
his
property.
I
I
I
So
the
applicant,
through
working
with
staff,
discovered
several
barriers
within
the
salt
lake
city
zoning
ordinance
to
try
to
achieve
his
goal
of
establishing
that
drawing
unit
and
reconstructing
the
carriage
house.
Some
of
the
conflicts
include
the
existing
adu
ordinance,
which
is
listed
here,
which
requires
an
owner
occupancy
requirement.
The
applicant
does
not
live
on
site,
but
actually
lives
on
b
street
and
then
the
other
issues
were
about
the
all
principal
structures
facing
required
street
face
or
sorry
requiring
street
frontage
lot
minimums
and
then
the
lot
and
bulk
requirements
for
detached
single
family
structures.
I
So
the
text
movement
background,
the
applicant
has
been
seeking
a
solution
to
reconstruct
the
carriage
house
for
quite
some
time
and
ultimately
submitted
a
tax
amendment.
Application
in
2020
staff
did
attempt
to
work
with
the
applicant
on
language
solutions,
but
was
ultimately
unsuccessful.
I
Staff
ordered
the
amendment
to
the
landmark
commission
for
review
to
receive
direction
for
the
applicant
on
the
proposed
language.
After
a
lengthy
discussion,
the
historic
landmark
commission
decided
to
recommend
negatively
against
the
proposal
and
did
not
discuss
potential
solutions
to
improve
the
language.
I
So
I
will
go
over
the
language,
real,
quick
and
just
for
a
brief
reminder.
Our
typical
ordnance
format
includes
a
purpose
statement
which
are
the:
what
are
the
regulations
trying
to
achieve
definition
of
terms
applicability?
What
conditions
must
be
met
for
the
regulations
to
apply
process
who's,
the
decision
maker
and
what
is
the
decision-making
process
and
the
standards
criteria?
I
I
So
the
purpose
of
the
text
amendment
would
be
to
permit
the
reconstruction
or
restoration
of
a
historic
carriage
house
for
the
purposes
of
creating
a
dwelling
unit,
so
the
staff
and
the
applicant
identified
the
following:
incentivizing
preservation
and
restoration
of
a
historic
feature
on
a
landmark
site
adding
to
the
housing
units
within
salt
lake
city
sustainability
objectives
are
supported
by
utilizing.
An
existing
structure
or
elements
of
an
existing
structure
also
can
increase
the
economic
viability
of
historic
structures
and
further
the
city's
historic
preservation
goals.
I
The
applicant
has
not
specified
a
review
process,
however,
the
proposed
language
implies
that
the
design,
construction
and
alterations
would
require
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
from
the
landmark
commission
and
the
applicant
did
identify
some
standards
and
criteria
which
are
included
on
your
screen
and
then
in
the
staff
report.
But
it's
essentially
only
allowed
for
single-family
use.
I
I
I
I
Additionally,
staff
cannot
recommend
favorably
on
a
proposal
that
is
missing
crucial
language
and
information.
With
that
said,
staff
is
recommending.
The
planning
commission
afford
a
negative
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
this
proposal,
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
at
this
time.
We
can
turn
the
time
over
to
the
applicant.
T
You
hear
me:
okay,
good.
Let
me
start
off
with
the
first
slide.
A
T
Okay,
this
is
the
photograph
of
the
beer
estate
and
just
above
the
left
center
of
the
photograph
is
the
the
white
topped
buildings
or
carriage
house
and
a
30-year
old,
older
building,
referred
to
as
the
harness
shop
from
1867.
T
You
can
see
from
the
photograph
that
there,
I
guess,
were
no
drones
or
aerial
photographs
being
taken
in
salt
lake,
but
you
can
date
it.
You
know
very
securely.
The
city
and
county
building
is
finished
on
the
upper
left-hand
corner.
The
catholic
cathedral
is
under
construction
in
the
upper
middle
of
the
picture
and
and
so
on.
So
if
we
could
go
one
more.
T
Okay,
this
is
working.
This
is
the
block,
that's
under
consideration.
We
heard
our
stuff
earlier
in
the
evening
that
about
the
problems
with
people,
misunderstanding
alleyways
in
the
avenues,
this
block
is
an
excellent
example.
If
you
look
down
on
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
at
property
225
of
third
avenue,
you
can
see
that
there's
about
six
feet
of
that
house,
that
is
on
the
neighbor's
property.
T
And
then,
if
you
look
at
223
fourth
avenue,
there's
about
a
similar
six
feet
of
that
house,
but
or
that
apartment
building,
that
is
on
225's
property
and
the
same
thing
with
217
and
so
on.
Now
these
are
not
maps
are
not
absolutely
accurate,
but
I
had
the
properties
surveyed
and
I
know
they're
darn
close.
T
If
you
go
up
to
222,
which
is
the
carriage
house
address,
you
can
see
that
there's
a
white
roof
building
almost
dead
center
in
the
photograph
that
I
guess
I
own
about
six
feet
of
that
neighbor's
garage
and
the
whopper
is.
If
you
go
up
to
the
northwest
corner,
4th
avenue
and
a
street,
you
can
see
a
under
some
trees
there.
T
There
is
a
faked
looking
anyway
carriage
house
built
in
1990
with
the
salt
lake
city
building
permit
where
salt
lake
city
gave
the
the
builder
permission
to
just
take
the
city
land
so
about
two-thirds
of
the
the
garage
there
on
the
corner
of
that
lot
does
not
belong
to
the
belongs
to
salt
lake
city,
and
it
was
given
away.
I
raised
that
issue
with
the
city
saying
well,
if
you're
willing
to
part
with
that
ground,
I'd
like
to
get
a
few
hundred
feet.
Can
I
do
that?
Oh,
no!
T
No,
no
and
the
city,
the
chief
of
staff,
then
decided
that
they
were
going
to
start
sending
out
bills
to
the
people
that
owned
that
carriage
house
for
a
couple
thousand
dollars
that
take
carriage
house
a
couple
of
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
I
said
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
That's
a
hornet's
nest
and
they
sent
out
the
first
set
of
bills,
and
then
they
chickened
out.
They
did
not
have
the
they
just
canceled
the
bills
and
decided
that
well
we'll
go
we'll
just
give
away
the
property.
Because
of
our
mistake.
T
The
photograph
that
you
were
shown
earlier
by
miss
lindquist
is
about
a
500
foot,
footprint
of
image
of
the
carriage
house
or
I'm
sorry
of
the
harness
shop
house,
which
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
you
know,
pretty
imposing
structure
you
can
see
there,
the
clutting
designed
to
serve
the
or
cladding
designed
together
with
the
carriage
house
to
serve
the
william
beer
family.
T
T
So
to
give
you
a
feeling
for
what
that
looks
like
if
you
take
the
222
fourth
avenue,
this
is
just
about
dead
center
in
the
photograph
or
in
the
map.
The
sanborn
fire
map.
T
You
can
see
a
square
darkish
building
yeah
that
has
if
well
an
analogy
would
be
that
if
you
were
looking,
if
you
were
taking
god's
view
of
the
washington
monument
looking
down
on
the
washington
monument,
you
would
see
almost
exactly
that
same
profile,
a
pyramid
top
that
the
only
way
you
can
get
a
building
shaped
like
that
fire,
like
the
fire
map
shows,
is
for
a
ride,
a
pyramid,
but
instead
of
sitting
on
a
500
foot
limestone
base.
T
And
so
here
is
what
the
carriage
house
behin
once
again
behind
the
harness
shop
house
looks
like
in
you
know
to
within
probably
an
inch,
maybe
an
inch
and
a
half
of
of
resolution.
T
There's
enough
photographic
evidence
remaining
materials
on
site
that
we
basically
know
that
what
the
building
looked
like
was
a
10
foot,
brick
or
a
10
foot
high
35
foot
wide
brick
cube
with
a
pyramid
on
top
of
it
and
it's
a
right
angle
pyramid
with
all
the
faces.
Looking
to
look
the
same
now
for
some
context.
T
Most
of
what
we
talked
about
with
the
historic
landmarks
commission,
I
had
assumed
an
error
that
they
were.
People
were
a
little
closer
to
their
high
school
geometry
than
they
evidently
were.
Is
that
they
would
understand
what
this,
what
we
were
proposing?
It's
the
washington
monument
with
a
pyramid
and
a
drip
edge
on
it
and
that's
what
that's,
what
we're
proposing
to
build
or
to
rebuild,
and
it's
a
design
that
is,
I
believe,
about
4
500
years
old.
T
It
ain't
new
greeks
had
it
the
egyptians
have
it
it's
been
around
for
a
long
time.
We
got
a
lot
of
pushback
from
the
landmarks
commission
with
people
saying
that
your
design
is
speculative.
It's
conjectural,
you
don't
know
what
the
building
looked
like.
T
That
was
probably
the
biggest
single
thing
we
talked
about
in
the
landmarks
commission
hearing.
It
turns
out,
though,
that
with
the
stuff
that
miss
lindquist
has
published
last
week,
the
the
mention
of
concept
of
improper
design,
conjectural
design
and
so
on.
That's
all
banished,
that's
all
gone
someplace
else,
so
the
city
doesn't
so
what
the
the
main
thing
the
city
believed,
or
that
the
landmark
commission
believed
just
was
not
true
and
it's
disappeared
from
from
the
record.
T
Okay,
well,
let's
see,
is
there
we're
looking
here?
If
I
just
let
me
summarize
it,
let's
go
to
the
last
page.
T
Okay,
let's
look
at
this
one.
I
looked
at
four,
almost
400
dwelling
units
that
have
gone
through
landmark
sites
since
january
2019..
Actually
they
went
back
a
year
past
that
so
that's
four
years
worth
of
data
that
produced
111
applications
for
dwelling
unit
review
the
pages
of
text
that
generated
was
just
under
eight
thousand
now.
The
champion
in
terms
of
pages
that
were
submitted
to
the
landmarks
commission
is
the
beer
carriage
house,
which
has
179
pages
of
stuff
to
go
through
the
winner
and
still
champion,
based
on
the
planning.
T
Well,
yeah,
what
I'd
like
to
do
would
be
to
come
back
and
talk
since
I've
got
187
pages,
that
I've
got
a
report
on
here
and
we
only
talked
about
three
pages
three
of
those
pages
at
the
landmarks
mission
hearing.
I
would
like
to
be
rescheduled
to
give
to
do
justice
to
this
and
talk
about
what
we've
proposed,
what
we
haven't
proposed
and
what
the
city
has.
The
planning
staff
has
substituted
for
it's
ill-considered
and
withdrawn
older
proposals.
B
A
B
Okay,
so
now
would
be
the
time
when
the
planning
commission
can
ask
you
questions.
T
E
Mr
pace,
can
you
hear
me
now
you
understand
that
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
a
text
amendment
for
the
zoning
okay
for
the
zoning.
That
would
would
make
an
exception
for
your
property
and
a
few
other
properties.
Oh.
A
E
It
applies
to
more
properties,
okay,
so
the
text
amendment
which
you
submitted
has
some
deficiencies.
It
can't
be.
It
can't
well
could
forward
it,
but
it
is
not
recommended
that
we
forward
it
because
the
text
amendment
itself
has
deficiencies
now,
all
of
the
stuff
that
you
were
presenting
about
the
about
the
history
of
the
site
and
the
history
of
the
building
and
your
plans
for
the
building
really
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
text.
Amendment
itself
that
we
would
we're
looking
at.
E
You
you
can't
no,
so
so
what
we
have
is
a
staff
report
that
basically
says
to
us.
The
text
amendment
is
insufficient
in
terms
of
its
language
and
its
ability
to
be
enforced
and
so
forth,
and
since
it
applies
to
more
than
just
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Brenda
you're
quite
well
made
so
we're
gonna
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
attendees
list
or
from
the
community
council
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
john?
Is
there?
Do
you
see
anybody.
B
Good
for
andres
has
there
been
any
emails
related
to
this
item.
B
J
Kelsey,
when
they,
this
is
amy
burroughs.
When
the
historical
commission,
historic
commission,
forwarded
a
negative
recommendation,
did
the
city
council
vote
on
it.
I
J
D
J
I
think
it's
a
terribly
interesting
idea
and
the
building
looks
so
interesting
to
me
and
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
it.
But
I'm
gonna
say
yes
on
this
recommendation.
B
Andra,
yes,
thank
you,
john.
F
B
B
B
C
F
I
will
vote
yes.
I
also
would
like
to
say
you
know
it's
just
extremely
fascinating
to
me,
the
the
history
behind,
but
maybe
in
a
different
setting.
This
would
really
be
quite.
B
B
No
we're
not.
We
don't
need
to
hear
that
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
think
that
concludes
our
business
for
tonight
and
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting.
C
And
replay,
let
me
interrupt
with
one
very
simple
thing.
Nick
reminded
me
did
was:
was
the
intent
to
continue
the
public
hearing
for
the
item
that
was
tabled
or
did
you
want
to
keep
the
public
hearing
closed?.
E
J
B
A
I'm
trying
to
remember,
I
feel
like
they
did
close
it
yeah,
but
I
don't
think
you
need
a
motion
to
open
it
again.
Like
that's.
A
To
communicate
and
coordinate
because
they
did
close
it,
you
wouldn't
have
a
legal
obligation
to
do
it
again,
but
that
doesn't
preclude
you
from
doing
it.