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B
C
A
D
C
B
We
could
give
him
a
few
more
minutes.
I
I
do
know
dan
cairo
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
join
us
today
because
he
is
on
a
flight,
we're
gonna
email
him
the
link
to
the
youtube
recording.
So
he
can
listen
to
the
discussion
and
be
caught
up
for
the
next
meeting
cool.
So
we
we
do
have
five
make
that
six
commissioners,
so
we
do
have
a
quorum,
but
there's
two
more
we're
expecting.
B
D
E
D
Begin,
we
don't
have
any
public
comments
from
the
commission
at
this
point
right
as
far
as
like
I'm,
assuming
that
everybody
has
pulled
up
the
html
agenda,
I'm
just
kind
of
going
going
through
like
a
b
c
d.
D
B
D
So
the
next
part
of
this
is
now
going
to
be
the
approval
of
minutes.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
looked
at
the
minutes
beforehand
and
I
guess
this
is
kind
of
a
tacit
approval
where
we
kind
of
go
forward
and
if
nobody
has
any
objections,
we
kind
of
go
on
or
do
I
need
to
actually
call
a
formal
vote.
B
D
F
D
Now
we're
going
to
go
to
d
of
reports
of
the
working
group
members
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
reducing
that
so
to
be
clear
here,
eric
kenny
vice
chair
has
already
submitted
four
maps,
he's
rocking
and
rolling
and
eric.
Would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
present
the
maps
that
you
have.
E
C
There
it
is
okay,
I'm
like
this
zoom
control
thing
doesn't
actually
move
so,
okay,
a
little
bit
about
me
before
I
came,
you
know
before
I
started
working
in
tech.
C
I
actually
was
a
map
maker
for
10
years,
so
I've
done
geographic
information
systems
from
the
like
early
2000s
to
like
2012,
when
I,
when
I
moved
over,
to
tech
and
non-profit
and
doing
some
other
stuff,
so
I
was
really
excited
to
get
a
hold
of
some
of
the
maps
that
and
some
of
these
mapping
tools,
so
I
came
through,
and
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
sort
of
a
couple
that
I
have
so
this
one
is.
C
Very
similar
to
our
existing
maps,
biggest
changes
are
here
in
district
five,
where
it
would
include
all
of
the
granary,
so
it
would
come
up
to
fourth
south,
with
some
jogging
around
some
of
the
the
downtown
blocks,
but
also
including
all
of
the
fair
park
council
district
community
council
district
inside
of
district
two,
so
district
two
would
encompass
that
entire
community
council.
C
But
then
I
thought,
as
I
was
as
I
was
drawing
around
these,
I
thought
what
if
we
redrew
the
entire
like
what,
if
we
redrew
the
entire
downtown
in
a
way
that
sort
of
makes
the
districts
a
little
more
cohesive
in
what
I
think
of
the
neighborhoods,
because
right
now,
I'm
in
district
five.
My
district
also
includes
ninth
and
ninth
and
some
of
the
like
areas
over
on
13th,
east
and
and
honestly.
C
My
neighborhood
has
very
little.
My
neighborhood
in
the
ballpark
have
very
little
to
do
with
some
of
those
east
side
neighborhoods,
but
I
have
a
lot
more
in
common
with,
like
the
marmalade
and
some
of
the
west
side,
downtown
neighborhoods,
you
know
where
the
those,
the
france,
the
the
france
apartments
that
are
being
demolished-
and
you
know
some
of
that
stuff.
So
I
came
up
with
this
quick
question
for
you
in
the
packet
is.
D
That
related
to
draft
two,
let
me
see
the
first
match
you
showed-
was
that
related
to
draft
one
just
to
be
kind
of
clear
if
people
aren't
looking
in
apple.
C
Let
me
pull
up
those.
Let
me
see
what
the
let's
see
here.
C
The
first
one
I
did
so,
if
you're,
looking
at
okay,
okay,
there,
we
go
all
right.
C
F
I've
I've
just
helped
with
the
packet,
and
I
wonder
if
I
could
help
out
with
just
some
of
the
naming
convention.
We
started.
F
Of
consistency
there,
what
we
did
was
the
seven
or
the
six
featured
maps
that
are
on
the
district
builder
website
were
given
a
number
by
the
city
recorder
office
and
that
number
is
listed
on
the
excel
spreadsheet.
And
it
aligns
with
those
that
mr
kenny,
sorry
that
you
listed
so
on
the
left
in
the
second
column,
and
I'm
pulling
it
up
on
my
screen
as
well,
so
that
I
can
just
give
you
the
numbers
and
corresponding
with,
what's
being
shared
on
the
screen.
C
F
A
F
Little
bit
differently
to
when
we
create
the
pdfs,
we
we
intended
to
put
the
names
of
those
maps
on
the
actual
pdf
file,
so
we'll
work
to
improve
that.
It's
we
just
recognize
that
district
builder
is
a
very
friendly
space
to
see
things
and
the
information
that's
being
provided,
but
we
cannot
change
the
names
on
district
builder.
F
A
F
C
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
now
is
there?
Is
there
something
that
I
can
like
reach
out
to
you
as
we're
making
maps
and
and
like
if
I
need
to
rename
them,
I
can
get
a
number
from
you.
C
Yeah,
so
going
back
here,
so
this
is
this
is
kind
of
the
interesting
I'm
thinking
through
how
to
like
reshape
the
district
boundary.
So
it's
like
district
one
is
entirely
the
west
side.
Again,
I'm
keeping
fair
park
sort
of
in
its
own
district.
C
This
would
be
the
new
district
two
and
the
numbers-
I
don't
you
know
I
don't
have.
We
don't
have
to
stick
with
the
numbers
of
where
they
are
but
like
this
would
be
district
five,
so
it
includes
capitol
hill,
some
of
the
marmalade,
all
of
the
west
areas
of
the
city
of
downtown
and
all
the
way
down
to
the
ballpark.
So
this
is
the
freeway
here
this
is
the
river
and
then
it
would
stop
at
essentially
state
street
for
the
southern
portion
go
over
to
fourth
east
up
to.
D
C
And
then
district
three
would
be
the
north
eastern
portion
of
downtown,
as
well
as
the
avenues
up
here
and
then
district
four
would
just
be
like
south
of
central
city.
This
is
like
six
south
and
then
the
ninth
and
ninth
district,
the
liberty
park,
liberty,
wells
area
and
then
six
and
seven
are
fairly
similar.
C
C
So
then
I
modified
this
one,
a
little
bit,
which
was
this
draft
five.
This
one
is
also
listed
as
draft
five.
My
guess
is,
and
I
should
have
truncated
a
little
bit
and
switched
the
numbers
around
so.
C
So
district
2
would
only
go
up
to
5600
west
south
of
the
freeway
include
poplar,
grove,
glendale
and
the
fair
park.
District
4
would
come
just
south,
so
it
would
be
300
north.
So,
instead
of
going
all
the
way
up
to
beck
street,
it
would
be
300
north
south
sort
of
dogging
around
some
of
these
neighborhoods
up
here
in
the
avenues
and
then
be
this.
This
longer
area,
district
5
would
move
east
and
then
again
these
and
the
other
two,
the
other
two
are
basically
the
same.
C
There's
no
difference
on
those,
so
those
are
my.
Those
are
my
ideas,
the
other,
the
other
ones
that
I
have
in
here
like
district
like
draft
two
is
most
of
these
are
very
similar
to
sort
of
the
first
one.
I
showed
you
it's.
You
know
a
little
tweaking
on
the
edge
like
this
when
I
moved
district,
two
to
the
north
side
of
the
west
side
and
didn't
include
the
granary
district,
so
they
were
just
a
little
tweaks
on
some
of
the
edges,
but
for
the
most
part,
these
are
very
similar.
A
D
C
I
wasn't
born
here
in
salt
lake
city,
but
I
was
raised
in
murray
and
you
know
I've
lived
up
here
since
2018,
so
I
like
have
a
pretty
good
sense
of
of
how
the
city
is
laid
out,
and
I
was
thinking
about
some
of
the
like
some
of
the
natural
barriers
that
exist,
the
freeway,
the
rivers,
the
one
of
my
maps
I
have
city
creek
going
up
here
is
the
barrier,
so
it's
like
one
side
of
the
river
versus
the
other
that
got
a
little
complicated
right
in
this
like
upper
a
street
east
capital
area,
because
it's
like
that
runs
right
through
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood.
C
C
You
know,
I
see
a
lot
of
apartments.
I
see
a
lot
of
multi-dwelling
units.
I
see
a
lot
of
homelessness.
Frankly,
you
know
in
this
this
neighborhood
and
I'm
not
saying
that
like
district
four
or
five,
whatever
we
end
up
naming
this
district
should
be
the
sort
of
sole
brunt
of
that,
but
it
is.
It
is
something
that
we
have
to
consider.
We
have
to
be
aware
of
that,
and
you
know
on
my
street
alone
I
have
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
apartments
apartment,
condos
literally
across
the
street,
and
then
behind
me.
C
I
have
a
motel
that
is
like,
like
a
single
resident
occupancy
motel
within
a
hundred
feet
of
each
other,
that's
and
that's
the
disparity
of
of
this
neighborhood,
and
that
is
unique
in
a
way
to
this
area.
This
you
know
this
sort
of
downtown
area.
This
isn't
that
isn't
so
common
over
here
or
it
isn't
so
common
over
here
and
then
thinking
about
the
cultural
significance
of
these
neighborhoods
over
here
and
making
sure
that
those
are.
C
You
know
that
those
are
together
just
for
that
nature.
So
that's
those
are
the
kind
of
stuff
that
I.
C
That
yeah,
the
the
con
like
they're
contiguous
but
they're,
not
very
some
of
these
aren't
very
compact
and
part
of
that
is
like
we
have
these
weird
undulations
down
here
so
like.
If
you
look
at
the
compactness
of
district,
seven
like
29,
that's
really
low,
but
district
four
is
almost
fifty
percent
compact
and
that's
you
know,
that's
actually
higher
than
what
we
have
presently
for
that
district
and
then
five
is
69.
C
So
that's
you
know
really
high,
but
a
lot
of
the
compactness
really
goes
down
to
the
fact
that
we
live
along
mountains
and
we
have
rivers-
and
we
have
you
know
crazy,
shaped
crazy,
shaped
features
that
sort
of
block
the
things
and
that's
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
is
is:
is
the
compactness
in
the
sense
of
what
is
the
general
feel
of
the
neighborhood
and
of
the
district
rather
than
of
the
straight
lines
along
these
streets?.
D
C
A
Have
like
I,
when
I
moved
here,
I
thought
we
were
part
of
the
district
one,
but
like
the
growth
dynamics
going
on
here
and
in
the
areas
just
south
are
super
different,
and
I
don't
know
I
mean
that
shouldn't
be
the
only
thing,
that's
impacting
it,
but
I
think
I
think,
there's
kind
of
what
you
were
saying.
A
There's
some
different
concerns
yeah,
but
it's
also
like
we
don't
fit
in
anywhere,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
totally
fit
in
with
like
the
big
avenues
district,
either
right
but
like
walking,
my
dog,
I'm
not
gonna
walk
at
least
across
six
north.
Like
my.
D
A
Is
east
but
yeah,
I
don't
know
we're
like
the
one
weirdo.
We
also
get
kind
of
I'm
represented
by
like
todd.
Well,
I
was
I'm
not
sure
who
my
person
is
now
but
like
we
just
get
a
funny
cut
all
the
time
yeah,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
rectify
that.
So.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
tough,
you
know,
and
that's
one
of
those
things.
That's
one
of
these
block
groups,
these
census
block
groups,
that's
actually
a
little
weird,
because
you
have
a
fairly
significant
population
in
there
I
mean
this.
This
whole
sliver
right
here
is
six.
It's
like
600
people
and
with
growth
potential,
because
I
know
that
there's
some
some
development
that's
happening
up
there,
so
it's
kind
of
like
well,
you
know:
do
you
fit
more
in
with
the
west
side,
that's
sort
of
growing
in
a
different
way.
C
D
So
I
also
consider,
too,
that
there
is
some
under
representation,
possibly
within
the
census,
on
the
west
side
and
yeah
within
groups
like
that
and
also
trying
to
consider
as
well
as
I'm
looking
at
doing
maps
saying
like
we
have
a
huge,
maybe
like
kid
population
now
of
like
14
to
16
year
olds,
but
within
a
five
five
year
time
span.
Those
are
gonna,
be
voting
members
as
well,
and
that
kind
of
shifts
my
perception,
it's
all
to
kind
of
say,
like
there's
a
lot
to
consider.
D
C
D
A
C
Yeah-
and
I
you
know,
I
really
tried
to
get
like-
I
was
really
trying
to
heavily
rely
on
the
river
to
create
some
of
this,
these
west
side
districts,
but
there
are
just
too
many
people
living
in
between
the
river
and
the
freeway
that
you
can't
make
a
single
district.
Just
up
the
river
like
I
was,
I
was
like.
Oh
we'll
do
one
sort
of
west
of
the
river
and
we'll
do
two
between
the
river
and
the
freeway
and
then
we'll
start.
C
A
C
And
you
can
tell
me
like
this
sucks
like
I
don't
ever
want
to
see
this
map
again
like
I
will
not
be
hurt,
you
know
it
just
it
just
I
was
kind
of
as
I
was
thinking
about
it
and
I'm
like
what
kind
of
makes
the
most
sense
to
me.
A
A
B
That's
a
good
question
if
I
was
to
play
devil's
advocate
on
this
map.
Yeah
I
I
would
say
the
two
kind
of
like
concerns
that
could
be
raised
are
the
guiding
principle
you
just
referenced,
maintaining
the
cores
of
prior
districts.
B
You
could
make
an
argument
that
some
of
the
districts
here
don't
do
that
as
well
as
other
districts.
There
there's
no
like
specific
way
to
measure
it.
I
I
do
want
to
point
out
in
the
lower
left-hand
corner
the
reference
layers
which
kenny
already
turned
or
excuse
me
eric
kenny,
already
turned
on.
It's
really
helpful
to
toggle
that
on
and
off
so
you
can
compare
what
the
changes
are
to
the
current
boundaries.
B
So
if
any
commissioner
hasn't
noticed
that
it
can
be
your
best
friend
when
you're
working
on
these
maps,
the
other
potential
concern
would
be
the
compactness,
particularly
around
the
the
fair
park
area.
Those
would
be
if
I'm
playing
devil's
advocate
the
two
concerns
I'd
point
out.
I
I
do
think
when
it
comes
to
the
core
areas.
There's
room
for
interpretation.
B
I
mean
district
4
is
the
core
area
of
district
4,
the
downtown,
which
is
more
of
that
western
central
area
of
the
district?
Or
is
it
just
the
opposite
later
on
we'll
get
to
a
map
showing
the
changes
from
the
last
redistricting,
which
kind
of
informs
a
little
bit
of
what
is
the
core
of
a
district?
C
You
know,
let's
shift
them
around
a
little
bit
so
they're
a
little
more
cohesiveness,
cohesive
in
the
way
that
I
think
of
these
of
these
areas,
rather
than
what
they
currently
are
and
you're
right,
the
fair
park
district.
You
know
it
follows
the
river,
it's
it's.
You
know
major
streets
up
here
and
down
here
and
then
the
freeway
you're
right.
C
C
D
Any
other
comments
this
has
been
really
helpful
and
thank
you
again
for
for
sharing
eric
and
kind
of
stepping
through
your
thought
process
and
going
through
how
you
kind
of
thought,
through
your
considerations,
as
you
were
like
nibbling
on
the
edges
or
or
considering
other
factors.
C
F
I
just
wanted
to
reference
eric's
comment
about
the
number
of
maps,
so,
on
the
district
builder
website,
we
place
the
ones
that
are
highlighted
in
yellow
on
your
excel
sheet
in
a
featured
position,
but
you
can
view
all
of
the
maps
and
all
of
the
users
that
have
submitted
maps
and
that's
what
we
wanted
to
provide
to.
You
was
the
variety
that
had
been
submitted
already
so.
C
F
E
F
It
might
be
just
an
admin
space.
I
apologize,
so
the
excel
sheet
will
list
the
ones
that
are
dated
from
the
excel
sheet,
which
is
in
the
packet,
and
so
it's
a
pdf
file,
but
it
will
list
the
map
creator
and
then
it
will
provide
a
hyperlink
to
the
other
to
their
map
as
well.
The
proposed.
C
And
I'll
go
through
I'll
go
through
and
I'll
rename
all
of
my
maps
to
map
to
match
the
name.
That's
on
the
excel
spreadsheet.
Once
I'm
done
sharing
my
screen
and
we're
you
know
moving
to
other
things,
I
can.
I
can
sort
of
do
that
in
the
background,
but
they'll.
If
you
want
to
see
my
map
name,
it'll
be
it'll
match.
What's
on
that
excel
spreadsheet,.
A
I
have
another
question
about
the
excel
sheet.
Sorry,
I'm
just
if
there
is
nothing
in
the
columns
to
the
right.
Does
that
mean
it's
incomplete,
like
some
of
them
have
population
in
the
columns.
F
F
I
know
that
we
are
trying
to
coordinate
with
our
maps
maps
leadership,
whatever
we
can
best
call
them
our
map
experts
to
better
identify
what
the
best
information
is
that
we
can
put
on
that
excel
spreadsheet,
because
we
do
recognize
that
it
is
quite
a
lot
of
information
if
you
want
us
to
provide
specific
information
and
maybe
reduce
the
amount
of
content
across
we're
happy
to
change
that
and
just
so.
This
was
15
days
of
data
and
the
next
one
will
just
be
seven
days.
F
So
we
are
gonna,
pull
it
by
blocks
of
time
between
your
meetings,
but
we're
really
I
mean
I
feel
encouraged,
that
we
are
seeing
the
numbers
that
we're
seeing.
But
if
you
have
specific
data
that
you
want
to
see
on
the
excel
spreadsheet-
and
I
will
just
come
I'll-
get
an
expert
from
the
map
situation
and
figure
out
what
everything
is
on
the
right
when
it
is
blank.
What
is
that
cause?
Then?
I'm
not
familiar.
A
B
I
don't,
I
don't
have
an
answer.
It's
a
good
question.
I
suspect
it
might
be
related
to
they
either
didn't
click
the
evaluate
button
or
it
like
they
didn't
they
didn't
trigger
those
numbers.
So
if
you
click
the
link
like
you
can
go
and
look
at
it,
but
it
may
not
have
been
pulled
with
the
rest
of
the
data
because
it
wasn't
triggered
yet,
but
that's
just
a
suspicion,
we're
still
looking
into
it.
E
I'm
wondering
if,
as
we
look
at
these
maps
when
we
represent
a
particular
area
of
the
city,
if
we
are
looking
at
able
to
see
what
eric
has
thought
about
in
terms
of
what
he
perceives
as
being.
E
Council
that
he's
assigned
so
I
represent
district
six,
for
instance,
and
in
any
of
the
maps
that
I
have
seen,
we
haven't
changed
much
we've
just
snatched
that
little
piece
out.
A
E
Adding
more
to
district
six
by
taking
that
little
notch
out
along
13th
east
right,
and
so
as
as
we
who
are
not
as
expert
as
eric
at
making
maps
or
looking
at
maps
I
wanted
to
and
did
what
I
could
to
to
figure
out
the
actual
street
names.
C
C
Yeah
within
I
mean
so
within
district
builder
itself,
like
the
pdfs
you're
right,
it
makes
it
difficult
as
you're
looking
through
the
pds.
If
you're
in
district
builder
itself,
you
can
actually
zoom
in
like.
Let
me
share
my
screen
again.
Let's
see
where
did
my?
Where
did
this
go?
Okay,
share,
chrome!
C
C
E
C
E
C
C
Yeah,
an
update.
C
C
And
if
you're,
if
you're
in
here,
so
if
you
go
in
here
and
you
create,
you
can
actually
you
click-
this
new
map,
salt
lake,
redistricting
and
it'll-
give
you
the
current
district.
So
you
can
use
this
template.
D
D
A
C
Yeah-
and
you
know,
you've
got
this
hover,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
what
the
population
is
off
of
the
thing.
If
you
switch
between
these
blocks
and
block
group
up
here
so
block
groups,
are
these
big
black
lines
they're
deemed
by
the
u.s
census?
And
then
these
blocks
are
the
smaller
components
of
these.
You
can
still
see
the
block
groups
with
it,
but
the
individual
blocks
have
these
sort
of
grayish
line
and
if
you
hover
over,
you
can
get
the
population
as
deemed
by
the
2020
census.
C
What's
in
this
little
thing,
so
that's
that
was
kind
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
is
I
tried
to
be
when
I
that
was
the
other
thing,
as
I
was
thinking
about,
for
the
most
part,
is
thinking
about
block
groups
and
only
splitting
those
up,
if
I
absolutely
had
to
like
showing
you.
Let
me
go
back
to
this
like
to
this
one
here.
I
think
that's
the
one
and
I,
if
I
were
to
click
on
evaluate
you
can
see
so
it's
got
equal
population
continuity.
C
Seven
seven
compactness
is
forty
percent
overall,
two
out
of
the
seven
are
majority
minority,
and
then
I've
got
three
block
group
splits.
So
I've
got
this
one
here,
there's
a
if
I
zoom
in
here
real
quick.
You
can
see
that
six
north
actually
splits
this
block
group
that
this
weird
sliver
up
here,
because
it
actually
goes
down
here
to
fourth
north
or
fifth
north
whatever
it
is,
and
then
this
one
here
is
split
again
population
sort
of
dictated
that
and
then
we
have
this
weird.
C
If
you
actually
look
like
the
block
group
is
like
all
of
immigration,
canyon.
Well,
immigration
canyon
is
actually
in
summit
county.
So
it
expands.
That's
why
you
get
these.
So
these
two
here
are
the
same
block
group
as
this
one
up
here.
So
that's
just
like
one
of
those.
It's
like,
okay,
that
you
know
you're
nothing
you
can
do
to
to
to
not
split
those,
but
I
did
try
to
like
mitigate
as
many
else
as
I
could
and
I
was
able
to
get
it
down
to
just
a
couple
usually
on
each
map.
B
And
I'll
just
add,
and
and
any
commissioner,
if
you
want
some
time
with
staff
hassan
and
I
to
walk
through
district
builder
or
ask
us
questions,
just
let
us
know
we'll.
E
E
I
just
can't
at
this
point
make
it
work.
I
can
draw
my
own
maps
and
I
got
what
I
needed
for
district
six
and
it's
variations
with
district,
seven
and
district
five,
but
I
wondered
if
other
people
needed
some
additional
help.
B
We'll
reach
out
after
this
meeting
anne,
to
find
a
better
time,
then.
E
I'm
I'm
wondering
the
little
black
box
that
you
went
around
with
it
automatically
gives
us
the
ratios
of
ethnicities
and
population.
A
D
C
So,
like
you
know,
I
can
hover
over
here,
you
can
see
that
it's
got.
The
white
is
25
of
the
population.
Let
me
get
one
that
actually
is
a
real
number,
so
it's
like
population
11
161,
which
is
this
block
right.
There
that's
highlighted
and
you
can
see
it's
38
white
2
percent,
black
3
asian
50,
hispanic
identified
5
native
and
5
pacific
islander.
C
C
Yeah
and
so
over
here
you
can
see
the
the
breakdown
for
the
district
as
a
whole.
So
if
you,
if
you
like,
I
could
see
that
I
have
in
district
1,
I
have
delegated
28
480,
which
is
off
by
51
from
the
ideal.
You
know
perfect
number,
so
it's
51
less
than
what
the
ideal
number
is,
which
is
well
within
that
five
percent
plus
or
minus.
And
then,
if
you
hover
over
this
little
graph,
it'll
give
you
the
of
that
twenty
eight
thousand
four
eighty
thirty
six
percent
or
white
six
percent.
E
Of
course
there
are,
there
aren't
ways
to
equalize
the
ethnicities,
because
we
don't
have
people
of
some
districts.
Don't
have
a
lot
of
ethnic
differences
living
in
them.
C
C
A
C
C
Is
it's
really
going
to
be
the
west
side
and
this
sort
of
area
down
here
in
the
ballpark
in
central
night,
as
long
as
you're,
not
like
splitting
these
areas
up
so
you're,
lessening
the
impact
of
those
minority
majority
neighborhoods,
that's
going
to
be
what's
important.
E
E
So
I
think
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
rearrange
each
other's,
but
we
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
consider
what
would
be
best
for
each
of
our
districts.
We're
going
to
put
them
together.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it's
also
important
to
kind
of
call
out
that
everybody
is
representing
a
particular
district
and
they
lean
on
your
fellow
commissioners.
I
guess
is
what
I
would
say:
you
know,
I'm
I'm
going
ahead
and
representing
district
one,
but
I
know
district
two
very,
very
well,
and
similarly
I
don't
know
the
east
side
that
well,
but
I
would
definitely
lean
on
you,
anne,
when
I
have
questions
about
like
if
this
looks
correct
how
this
plays
out,
because
you
have
an
intimacy
with
those
district
areas.
E
C
Right
and
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
have
this
this
map
builder.
With
these
with
these
links,
is,
you
know,
like
I
can
come
in
and
if
you
came
in
and
you
built
a
map,
I
could
go
in
and
I
could
click
on
your
map
and
I
could
duplicate
it
and
use
your
the
map
that
you
created
and
the
same
thing
for
you.
C
B
And
I
have
a
question:
is
it
correct
that
you
you
like
the
idea
of
getting
rid
of
that
notch
in
between
district
five
and
district
six?
Did
I
hear
that
correctly.
E
B
A
I
was
wondering
if
I
could
ask
so-
and
I
totally
understand
your
your
point-
about
having
two
reps
at
like
a
community
council
meeting
or
something,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
in
district
two,
we
also
have
that
opportunity,
which
I
do
think
is
a
nice
opportunity,
but
something
that
I've
heard
over
on
the
west
side
of
salt
lake
is
confusion
from
residents
about
who
is
their
representative
and
because
across
the
street,
has
a
different
rep
than
they
have
or
something
like
that.
And
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
you've
encountered
that.
E
Yep
a
little
bit
but
most
of
the
people
who
participate
recognize
that
they
just
get
to
vote
in
a
different
district,
but
they
still
come
to
the
council
and
they've
been
on
the
council,
so
that
we've
had
members
of
the
wasatch
hollow
community
council,
which
is
not
represented
on
the
maps
right
now
who
live
in
district
5
and
also
who
live
in
district
6..
E
So
some
of
us
get
to
vote
for
one
and
some
of
us
get
to
vote
for
another
one,
and
that
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
different
council
persons,
even
though
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
participation
in
community
events
between
the
two
districts,
it's
kind
of
like
13th,
east
aces,
you
you're
above
13th
or
you're
below
13th.
Those
are
what
historical
boundaries
they're,
certainly
they're.
Nothing
they
just
are.
C
E
D
D
E
And
I
think
that's
helpful
in
some
areas,
it's
helpful
to
be
to
know
just
you
have
one
and
I
think
it's
hard
on
the
council
persons
because
they
want
to
attend.
We've
had
recently,
they
just
attend
one
every
other
month,
and
that
is
helpful
for
them,
because
they
have
a
lot
of
responsibility.
E
B
Do
want
to
share
a
clarification
on
the
reference
layer
on
district
builder
for
the
community
councils
and
correct.
There
are,
I
think,
five
community
councils
that
did
not
renew
their
registration
with
the
city,
but
the
layer
on
district
builder
is
from
the
end
of
last
year,
so
the
the
five
or
so
community
councils
that
did
not
renew
registration,
I
think
downtown,
is
another
one.
They
are
shown
on
the
community
council
layer.
B
The
reason
we
went
with
that
is,
we
know,
given
the
pandemic
and
the
times
we're
in
there
could
be
delays
in
renewing
registration
and
each
of
those
community
councils
has
been
around
for
several
years,
if
not
a
couple
decades.
So
since
they've
self
identified
in
the
past,
we
thought
it
was
important
to
include
them
in
that
layer.
E
C
C
Okay,
yeah,
so
it's
there
and
you
know
that
was.
C
C
E
C
D
I've
that's
one
extra
layer
to
kind
of
think
about,
because
I've
also
tried
to
keep
as
I've
looked
around
and
adjusted
stuff.
But
I
haven't
committed
anything
about
keeping
community
about
community
council
mandate
that
we
have
kind
of
together,
because
I
know
I
could
cause
a
lot
of
confusion
and
anxiety
with
people.
D
D
D
It's
not
an
auction,
but
if
nobody
has
anything
else
to
say,
if
you
have
what
of
a
staircase
later,
of
course,
like
there's
email,
we
can
communicate
with
each
other
there.
The
next
item
on
the
list
is
the
pending
and
unfinished
business,
and
obviously
because
this
is
the
second
commission
meeting,
we.
E
D
B
D
Now,
on
to
section
f
for
those
that
are
following
along
at
home
on
the
agenda
new
business,
so
we're
going
to
be
going
over
the
dynamic
map
showing
changes
from
the
last
redistricting
and
eric
has
kind
of
showed
a
little
bit
of
that
we're
going
to
go
over
council
district
4
current
boundaries
and
minimal
change
map.
We're
going
to
go
over
district
builder
kind
of
giving
an
overview
of
that
and
then
finally,
that
spreadsheet,
that
cindy
lewis
kind
of
pointed
out
before
so
ben.
Are
you
going
to
do
that
part
of
this
yep.
E
A
Hey
ben
before
you
start,
I'm
just
wondering
I
think
you
probably
already
approved
minutes
and
I
did
have.
I'm
was
late
to
the
media,
I'm
so
sorry.
I
did
have
one
clear
one
edit
that
was
needed
that
I
spotted
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
to
do
it
now
at
the
end,
email
you
just
wanted
to
get
that
out
before
I
forgot.
A
F
D
B
B
All
right
so
dynamic
map
what
happened
with
redistricting
last
time,
so
I'm
going
to
quickly
screen
share
a
pdf
which
is
in
the
meeting
packet
today.
But
then
I'm
going
to
take
you
to
the
interactive
map
on
online,
which
has
a
lot
more
detail.
But
we
wanted
to
have
something
in
the
meeting
packet,
which
is
why
we
have
the
pdf.
B
B
B
D
A
D
D
Way
that
culturally
ethnically
or
whatever
have
you,
we
have
kind
of
thought
through
this
stuff,
like.
B
So,
as
was
mentioned
before
the
wasatch
hollow
notch,
was
a
council
member's
residence,
the
the
notches
over
here
by
north
temple?
I
haven't
come
across
a
reason
why?
Yet
so
I've
been
listening
to
the
advisory
commission
meetings
from
10
years
ago
and
I
still
have
their
last
meeting.
I
need
to
listen
to
and
then
they
did
have
a
final
report,
but
it
didn't
specify
why
they
changed
every
individual
boundary,
so
we're
still
digging
and
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
more
information
for
the
next
meeting.
On
that
question.
D
B
So,
yes,
more
immediately,
I
think
the
council
members
will
ask
so
it's
helpful
to
say
this
is
you
know
a
particular
reason
why
this
line
is
proposed
to
be
here
instead
of
say,
two
blocks
over.
B
It's
helpful
to
have
that,
and
sometimes
it's
obvious,
maybe
it's
a
physical
barrier
that
exists
and
it's
you
know
that
should
be
the
boundary
or
it
could
be
something
like
what
eric
was
saying
earlier,
that
this
neighborhood
has
much
more
in
common
with
this
other
neighborhood,
and
this
commission
wanted
those
commonalities
to
be
shared
in
the
same
district.
So
it's
going
to
be
case
by
case
there's
no
right
answer
to
use
the
same
technique
on
every
boundary.
B
It's
not
huge
changes,
they're,
definitely
clustered
where
districts,
one
two
three
and
four
come
together,
and
then
again
you
see
this
cluster,
where
districts,
four
five
and
six
touch,
but
it
wasn't
a
whole
sale.
You
know,
let's
move
more
than
half
of
the
district
into
a
different
district,
so
that
was
the
magnitude
of
change
10
years
ago.
I
thought
it
was
helpful
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
this
commission
you
can
certainly
recommend.
B
B
Were
there
any
other
questions
on
this
interactive
map,
comparing
the
last
two
sets
of
district
boundaries
before
I
go
to
the
next
item,.
B
C
B
You're
saying
that's
what
he
told
me
and
one
of
the
things
that's
helpful,
and
this
is
actually
a
recommendation
from
the
last
redistricting
ten
years
ago,
is
when
you're
building
your
maps.
Sometimes
it's
helpful
to
start
with
the
district
that
needs
to
shrink,
because
by
shrinking
the
district,
that's
too
big
you
free
up
space
to
add
to
districts
that
are
too
small
and
there's
no
right
way
to
do
it.
But
that's
one
strategy:
that's
been
helpful.
D
B
B
Yeah
and
and
I'll
double
check
with
the
the
gis
staffer
who
came
up
with
it,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that's
what
he
said
is.
This
is
like
the
bare
minimum
to
make
the
the
numbers
work.
Not
that
less
is
better,
it's
just
an
option
and
I
think
it
is
listed
on
the
excel
sheet,
but
I
can't
I
don't
think
we
changed
the
name
to
call
it
out.
B
B
B
So
this
is
a
good
place
to
start,
if
you're
not
feeling
comfortable
and
still
have
questions,
I
I've
watched
it
and
there
were
a
couple
things
that
I
know
I've
been
told
before
and
I'd
forgotten.
B
The
other
information
that
we've
added
is
this
getting
started
with
district
builder.
It's
a
tutorial,
but
instead
of
a
video,
it's
step
by
step
instructions
in
a
text
layout
with
images
of
what
you
would
be
clicking
on.
So
if
you
prefer
the
video,
if
you
prefer
more
of
a
manual
approach,
both
options
are
there
for
you
and
then
we
have
the
recognized
community
councils
list,
and
this
is
the
the
one
from
the
end
of
last
year.
B
F
F
B
B
This
third
link
is
the
one
we
looked
at
a
little
earlier,
showing
the
boundary
changes
between
the
2001
and
the
2011
redistricting,
and
then
this
is
the
link.
That'll.
Take
you
directly
to
that
interactive
map
where
you
can
zoom
in
and
out
so
you're,
not
stuck
with
just
the
pdf.
B
There
is
a
lot
of
information
on
the
excel
sheet,
but
I
think
one
of
the
most
important
things
is.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
maps
that
are
submitted
you
have
access
to
and
you
can
access
them
by
clicking
the
url
so
it'll.
The
cursor
should
change
into
a
little
little
hand,
click
to
go
directly
to
that
map
and
as
cindy
who
mentioned
earlier,
we're
going
to
provide
a
new
list
as
the
new
maps
come
in
for
your
next
meeting.
B
A
B
I
actually
think
those
are
more
helpful
than
our
our
rd
2255.
D
A
D
D
A
In
any
event,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
some
of
my
maps.
I
think
the
maps
provided
by
eric
kenny
is
a
great
place
to
start,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
that
sort
of
was
a
great
way
to
begin
the
conversation
and
to
really
discuss
sort
of
how
to
use
the
district
builder
tool
properly.
I
had
no
idea
about
some
of
those
overlays,
so
I
found
it.
C
Very,
very,
very.
A
D
You
can
pick
a
handful
if
you
don't
want
to
present
all
of
them
just
because
I'm
sure
you,
like
myself,
have
kind
of
spawned
some
ideas
about
this.
So.
A
D
D
I
know
I
recognize
some
of
the
names
like
alejandro
pugh,
haley
league
other
people,
if
they're
looking
through
them
to
kind
of
either
advocate
or
talk
through
how
they're
looking
at
these
maps
or
would
like
to
present
maps
that
they're
going
to
be
making
in
preparation
for
next
meeting
just
so
that
we
can
start
kind
of
getting
the
conversation
rolling
about
your
thought
process.
How
you
viewed
some
of
this
and
some
of
the
concerns
that
you've
kind
of
come
through.
D
Well,
not
everybody
rush
at
once
and
don't
feel
like
you
need
to
say
yes
now
as
we
get
prepared
for
the
next
meeting.
If
you
would
like
to-
and
it's
like
two
or
three
days
out
just
let
us
know-
and
I
would
love
to
get
somebody
on
I'd
love
to
get
more
people
on
the
agenda,
didn't
mean
to
put
everybody
on
the
hot
seat
to
say,
yeah
sure
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
come
in
and
talk
about
maps
and
thank
you
again,
neil
for
your
willingness
to
present.
I
really
appreciate
that.
B
From
an
agenda
timing
perspective
we're
trying
to
publish
the
information
at
least
two
days
in
advance,
so
it
would.
It
would
be
easiest
if
you
do
have
a
map
that
you
want
to
talk
about
next
time.
If
you
can,
let
us
know
like
next
tuesday
morning,
then
we
can
make
sure
it's
included
in
the
packet
that's
put
out
for
the
public.
F
F
F
Of
course,
so
the
pdf
sheet
that
just
lists
all
of
the
recognized
community
organizations
with
their
boundaries
is
on
the
website.
The
tiny
url
slc
redistricting
that
ben
showed.
But
then
there
is,
I
think,
I'm
looking
at
yeah
nine
maps
available
or
zooming
in
and
out
and
seeing
different
layers
at
the
website.
F
A
D
C
Required
you
have
to
do
a
headstand
like
so
you
know
it
can't
be
done.