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From YouTube: Viktor TrĂ³n Part 1 // An Ethereum Interview Series
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We sat down with Viktor Tron, one of the first employees of the Ethereum Foundation, to discuss the Swarm project. This series focuses on trying to explain Ethereum to a non-technical audience.
A
She
was
a
really
probably
one
of
the
first
public
presentations
about
mysterion
and
then
I
happen
to
have
a
chance
to
go
there
in
Hoxton
square
London
and
I
was
absolutely
you
know,
blown
by
the
prospect.
I
immediately
understood
the
consequences
it's
possible,
but
of
course
I
can
smile
like
no
the
great
project.
Obviously
it
cannot
work.
So
it's
like
yeah
I
thought
it's
like
great
ambitions
and
then
I
when
I
delved
into
it,
like
more
and
more
and
like
I
talk
to
Gavin
I
I
started.
A
I
have
just
had
my
first
contribution
to
the
C++
code,
which
was
happened
to
be
my
first
and
last
contribution
of
that
one
liner
to
the
good
base
and
then
slowly
slowly.
They
started
to
understand
it.
Wow
this
project
is
really
bunch
of
geniuses
and
it's
actually
really
stands
on
its
legs
and
it
is
really
possible.
A
I
was
lucky
enough
to
be
offered
a
job.
Officially
I
was
one
of
the
first
employees
of
the
foundation,
but
there
was
through
Jeff
Jeff,
we,
okay,
Soviet,
indigo,
client
and
so
I
became
one
of
the
first
developer
stood
to
go
client
and
you
know,
since
then,
I
went
through
like
basically
contributing
to
various
bits
of
the
code
base
and
slowly
slowly.
I
could
honed
in
on
the
swamp
project,
which
I'm
currently
name
developer
off.
A
So,
what's
the
run
suppose
the
block
she?
Let's,
let's
start
with
a
very
short
rockiness-
basically
gives
you
secure
computation
and
in
a
sandbox,
the
environment.
It
has
to
be
sandbox,
because
exactly
every
node
has
to
calculate
the
exactly
the
stay
has
to
reach
exactly
the
same.
Output
from
the
same
input
has
to
be
completely
in
the
deterministic
computation
it.
A
The
the
generalization
of
a
theorem,
basically
general,
like
during
complete
computations,
involve
storage
as
well,
so
you
can
actually
do
a
storage
on
the
blockchain,
which
means
that
smart
contracts
can
have
their
own
storage
and
they
have
some
super
system
layer.
However,
exactly
because
these
computations,
including
the
storage,
have
to
be
replicated
on
each
node
in
order
to
be
secured,
storing
data
is
very,
very
expensive.
So,
typically,
what
you
want
to
do
is
to
store
only
the
minimal
minimum
possible
data,
ideally
just
just
a
root
hash
of
some.
A
You
know
some,
maybe
not
so
technically
speaking,
just
you
know
some
digest
stuff
of
a
huge
data
set.
Just
do
you
know
secure
the
the
the
current
state
of
some
of
some
database
or
state
of
your
contract.
Whatever
is
relevant,
but
it
has
to
be.
You
know
very
small
amount
of
data
exactly
because
it's
replicated
in
a
vehicle
every
computer,
it's
extremely
expensive
and
also
withdrawing
that
data
is
relatively
slow.
A
So
here
here's
one
whence
one
comes
in,
but
in
general
the
generic
idea
of
storage
becomes
a
problem,
so
swamis
is
is
determined
to
solve
that
problem
and
using
peer-to-peer
you
know,
decentralized,
storage
and
and
and
content,
evil,
delivery
techniques
and
technology
tries
to
solve
the
problem
of
efficient
data.
Retrieval
and
efficient
data
distribution.
So,
basically
swarm
is
the
BitTorrent
on
steroids.
A
I'm
not
an
expert
on
VM
and
virtual
machines
and
languages,
so
you
know
obviously
I'm
not
like
really
max
by
developer
in
the
core
of
client.
So
if
you
think
of
aetherium
as
the
word
computer,
this
is
the
secured
computer
over
much
peer-to-peer
network.
Then
maybe
you
can
say
that
swarm
is
the
is
the
word
hard
disk.
So
it's
like
one
component
of
this.
The
overall
vision,
theorem
ecosystem
very
early
under
the
the
founding
fathers
of
his
theorem,
like
realized
that
that
this
generalized
blockchain
can
be,
you
know
backbone
of
the
new
Internet.
A
Basically,
they
realize
that
the
way
and
people
wanted
the
internet
always
like
it's
decentralized
on
a
peer-to-peer
network,
never
actually
manifested
never
never
actually
materialized,
because
and
and
the
way
the
web
works
at
the
moment
at.
Like
you
know,
data
is
segregated
in
in
silos,
operate
entire
private
entities.
It's
really
kind
of
a
broken
Internet,
that's
not
how
we
never
imagined
it,
and
although
peer-to-peer
technologies,
including
file
sharing,
you
know
the
further
back
Napster
started.
A
These
technologies
have
been
existing
for
10
to
12
20
years
almost,
and
we
have
this
fantastic
research
and
progress
in
these
fields.
It
seems
that
they
is
this
missing
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
what
they
always
really
needed
is
some
sort
of
in
incentivization
layer
which
made
the
collaboration
of
appears,
sustainable
and
reliable,
and
so
it's
it's
a
it's.