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From YouTube: Aron Fischer // An Ethereum Interview Series
Description
An interview with Dr. Aron Fischer, a lead engineer on both the Colony and Swarm projects, to discuss how Ethereum will affect society, the projects he is working on, and how these new systems can transform society. This series focuses on trying to explain Ethereum to a non-technical audience.
A
A
The
two
projects
are
most
involved
with
right
now
are
swarm
and
colony.
So
swarm
is
part
of
the
original
theorem
foundations
project,
which
is
a
distributed
file.
Storage
layer,
so
distributing
large
files
also
could
be
used
as
a
communication
layer,
but
everything
that
the
blockchain
is
not
good
for
I
know
images
movies.
A
So
the
vision
is
that,
if
you
down,
if
you're
running
a
decentralized
application,
your
user
name
and
stuff,
that
kind
of
important
personal
info
would
be
registered
on
the
blockchain,
but
everything
else-
the
images,
the
templates,
the
JavaScript
all
that
he
still
needs
to
be
loaded
into
your
browser
to
so
you
can
use
the
app
and
that
shouldn't
come
from
any
server.
It
should
also
come
from
your
peers
and
that
sort
of
that
layer
is
swarm,
distributing
and
hosting
all
that
content
and
the
other
project
is
colony,
which
is
a
very
exciting
project
as
well.
A
It's
about
how
do
we
use
the
power
of
this
new
blockchain
to
coordinate
amongst
ourselves
and
work
together,
collaborate
on
projects
and
even
know
run
our
little
companies
together
make
money
together
whatever
it
is.
We
want
to
do
to
have
a
really
meritocratic
way
of
governing
ourselves
and
doing
projects
so
in
a
very
flexible
way.
You
can
work
it
you
can
put
in
as
much
effort
or
as
little
effort
as
you
want.
A
A
Every
person
has
a
role
in
the
job
and
that's
all
they
do.
They
can
pick
up
work
as
they
are
available
and
often
it
helps
it
could
help.
Perhaps
a
company
find
unused
talent
unused
resources.
So
we
get
interest
from
that
side,
and
that
is
before
we
even
get
into
the
whole
decentralized
governance
and
reputation
based
systems
also
good
for
know
us
entitled
Millennials
when
we
think
we
just
want
to
Oh
today.
I'll
do
some
work.
You
go
online,
find
some
tasks,
work
on
it
get
paid,
but
tomorrow
take
off
you
don't
want.
A
You
know
we
no
longer
care
for
these
careers
for
life
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job,
so
the
kind
of
flexibility
is
valued
on
both
ends.
These
days.
Both
you
know
from
people
trying
to
do
work
and
from
people
who
looking
to
get
work
done.
It's
you
know,
there's
there's
companies
right
now
that
do
sort
of
tasks,
I,
think
TaskRabbit
and
some
you
know
there.
Here's
a
bit
of
work
and
somebody
in
India
picks
it
up
and
submits
it
to
that
kind
of
structure,
but
we're
thinking
you
know
that
should
not
be
a
centralized
platform.
A
It's
always
people
wanting
to
do
work.
People
wanting
work
done
myths,
but
let's
get
them
together
now
for
called
me
I'm
working
on
the
governance
system.
So
the
idea
that
how
do
we
actually
coordinate
amongst
ourselves?
How
do
we
come
to
decisions?
What
do
we
do
if
there's
disagreements
and
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
open
questions,
of
course
about
that?
But
our
goal
is
to
not
be
just
plutocratic,
so
the
person
with
the
most
money
buys
the
most
tokens
and
has
the
most
say
it
should
really
be
meritocratic.
A
So,
if
you're
good
at
what
you
do
and
your
peers
like
your
work,
then
you
will
earn
our
reputation
and
with
that
reputation
you
have
a
bigger
say
in
the
direction
of
this
project,
which
also
means,
if
you
start
a
project
and
other
people
join
in,
do
a
lot
of
work
and
you
do
less
and
less
your
your
own
influence
will
diminish
and
other
people's
will
grow.
It's
no
longer
yours,
it
belongs
to
whoever
is
the
most
involved
in
it.
So
we're
very
excited
to
see
where
those
kind
of
projects
will
go.
A
A
If
somebody
does
the
work
and
the
blockchain
does
the
entire
accounting,
so
you
can
see
who
did
what
at
the
end
of
the
month
and
we're
going
targeting
our
first
we're
targeting
it
like
digital
agencies,
first
groups,
a
small
number
of
employees
who
are
used
to
farming
artwork,
a
lot
of
freelancers,
and
it's
also
work
that
can
be
submitted
online.
So
it's
all
it's!
You
know
it's
a
very
close
fit
starting
with
that,
but
there
was
to
be
a
hierarchy.
You
know
it's
our
task.
We
offer.
We
assign
you
to
the
task.
A
A
We're
not
going
to
go
full
Dao
straightaway,
because
that's
a
really
difficult
thing
to
do,
and
we
sort
of
now
want
to
be
careful
and
so
decentralized
bit
by
bit
and,
as
I
said,
there's
definitely
a
use
case
for
a
blockchain
based
task
management,
even
in
a
hierarchical
sense,
just
to
make
your
workforce
more
flexible.
Even
if
it's
us
within
your
own
company,
it's
the
flexibility
of
you
know
who
does
what
when
and
the
accounting
is
done
automatically
for
you.
A
So
a
few
of
the
things
that
motivate
me
one
of
the
most
the
the
phrase,
the
internet,
without
servers,
because
when
the
internet
started
I,
it
was
this
amazing
new.
You
know
we
called
it
cyberspace
because
it
was
completely
destroyed
from
the
real
world
and
every
everyone
was
just
equal
on
this
playing
field
like
there's
no
difference
between
someone
in
Hungary
and
someone
in
states
and
someone
in
India
is
just
like
another
person
is
somewhere
online
and
then
over
the
early
2000s.
Until
now,
more
and
more
of
the
services
got
closed
off.
A
We
have
all
these
walled
gardens
of
Facebook's
and
then-
and
you
know
that
kind
of
each
at
whatever
it
is
everything
is
a
closed
group
and
and
everything
is
I.
Don't
I
I
really
dislike
the
control
that
these
groups
have
like
I
want
to
share
stuff
with
my
friends.
I
don't
want
to
share
it
with
Zuckerberg
and
and
the
other
element
is
I,
don't
want
know.
My
sister
recently
sent
me
this
link
say
here:
this
is
a
great
documentary.
A
You
should
go
watch
this
and
I
click
the
link
and
says
I'm
not
allowed
to
because
I'm
in
the
wrong
location.
I
said
what
do
you
mean
I'm
in
the
wrong
location
among
the
internet?
So
the
way
these
technologies
have
been
shaped
in
the
past
15
years
it's
become
a
very
balkanized
place,
everything's
being
broken
down,
they
deliberately
are
no
longer
interoperable.
A
Like
you
know,
you
either
put
your
photos
in
Apple's
box
or
in
Facebook's
on
Google's,
and
they
don't
want
to
interact
so
that's
kind
of
a
breaking
of
what
the
original
promise
of
the
internet
was
and
coupled
with
this
or
really
spooky
espionage.
That's
happening
like
we've,
become
the
product
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
with
a
theorem
underneath,
we
can
now
actually
take
the
net
back
to
what
it
was
supposed
to
be.
A
Maybe
I
should
add
a
little
note.
The
reason
we
ended
up
where
we
are
today
is
because
of
a
lack
of
micro
payments
right.
The
reason
companies
like
Google
and
Facebook
spend
so
much
time
spying
on
us
and
trying
to
get
as
much
information
about
us
as
possible
is
because
that's
the
only
thing
they
can
make
money
of
that's
become
the
product.
A
It's
just
like
websites
like
it
can
provision
eyes.
Banking
you've
got
the
people
talking
about
IOT
and
what
that
can
do
for
you
and
then
there's
are
so
many
projects
and
I.
Don't
think
we
even
know
ourselves
where
this
is
going,
because
the
real
value
proposition
is
in
the
synergies
between
all
these
different
services
rather
than
a
single
one
of
them.
A
No,
that's
not
going
to
happen.
You're
not
going
to
get
people
to
leave
Facebook
by
explaining
to
them
that
they
shouldn't
use
it
I
know
because
I've
tried
it
so
everyone
does
it's
so
convenient.
They
stick
with
what's
convenient,
so
it's
not
about
you
know
trying
to
get
people
to
switch
because
of
some
political
reason.
It
really
has
to
be
about
ease-of-use,
but
I
think
there
is
really
there
will
be
services
that
are
just
better
things.
We
can't
do
right
now,
and
people
will
end
up
using
the
theorem
without
even
knowing
it
I
mean.