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A
B
C
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F
A
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
board
of
adjustment
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
A
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
A
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
ex
parte
communications
or
conflicts
of
interest
this
evening.
G
D
H
H
This
is
an
aerial
look
at
the
property.
There's
an
existing
single-family
home
built
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
towards
the
water.
There's
an
existing
detached
garage
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
property.
The
applicants
are
looking
to
put
the
pool
in
this
area
here
in
front
of
the
existing
home.
They
have
indicated
that
the
property
is
served
by
septic
and
that
septic
system
is
located
between
the
existing
home
and
the
garage
in
this
location.
H
This
is
showing
the
setback
areas
and
then,
where
the
pools
propose
to
encroach
for
the
front
setback
again,
they're
looking
to
have
the
closest
point
at
21
feet
from
the
front
property
line,
which
is
this
line
right
here
and
then
they're.
Looking
for
a
side
setback
of
five
feet,
which
encroaches
into
the
minimum
eight
foot
setback,
which
is
right
about
here.
H
One
additional
consideration
is
the
land
development
code
does
provide
specific
setbacks
for
the
side
and
the
rear
for
both
pools
and
for
pool
screen
enclosures
for
a
pool
screen
enclosure.
The
minimum
setback
is
also
eight
feet
and
there's
also
a
minimum
separation
required
between
the
water's
edge
of
the
pool
and
the
pool
screen
enclosure,
which
is
three
feet
so
to
meet.
The
ordinance
you'd
have
to
have
at
least
11
feet
to
have
an
enclosure
and
pool
on
a
property.
H
D
H
H
D
D
Yep,
yes
and
nobody's
responded:
no,
okay,
any
other
questions
of
staff.
D
I
Thank
you.
We
moved
to
tarpon
springs
in
february
from
the
cold
cold
state
of
michigan
and
we're
enjoying
ourselves
very
much.
We.
J
I
It's
a
lovely
town,
it's
a
lovely
piece
of
property,
it's
a
gorgeous
bayou
and
we're
very
happy.
We
made
the
decision.
I
did
receive
a
letter
from
the
committee
or
the
staff
and
basically
saying
there
are
five
provisions
that
we
had
to
meet
to
get
a
variance
in
that
they
felt
the
stat.
The
staff
felt
that
we
had
met
three
and
not
met
two,
so
I
will
be
addressing
those
two
and
I
also
went.
I
We
went
door
to
door
to
our
immediate
neighbors
and
asked
them
what
they
felt
about
the
the
of
variants.
Gregory,
I'm
not
sure
what
his
last,
how
his
last
name
is
pronounced
leah,
ris,
leeros
on
riverside
drive
his
property
abuts
ours,
and
he
has
signed
a
statement
saying
he
has
no
objection
to
granting
a
variance.
I
George
papadopoulos
also
abuts
our
property
in
a
way
in
a
small
way,
but
it
does
about
our
property.
He
was
also
happy
to
sign
this
saying.
He
has
no
objections
to
a
variance
our
immediate
next
door.
Neighbors,
who
have
a
pool
are
in
austria
right
now
visiting
aging
parents
and
she
is
out
of
email
reach
and
I
was
not
able
to
get
a
statement
from
her,
but
we
did
have
a
discussion
and
she
has
no.
She
and
her
husband.
I
J
I
I
So
that
would
be
a
little
awkward
in
my
opinion,
so
we
did
not
meet
according
to
the.
J
Copies
of
those
letters
should
I
hand
those
to
you.
Yes,.
D
A
You
can
take
them
to
the
you
can
actually
take
them
to
the
sec.
The
board
secretary
ken.
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
On
the
other
side
of
the
fence,
as
I
mentioned,
doric
court
is
a
dead
end
street.
There's.
I
We
were
told-
and
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
apocryphal-
or
it's
this
second
or
third
or
fourth
hand,
information.
So
for
that
I
apologize,
but
we
were
told
that
there
had
to
be
room
for
a
fire
truck
to
turn
around
and
therefore
the
fence
couldn't
follow
the
property
line.
It
had
to
go
in
an
arc
for
an
easement,
and
this
is
the
the
view
from
outside
the
fence.
J
I
I
I
think
it's
obvious
anyway,
that
we
will
in
no
way
be
bothering
anyone
by
building
over
a
few
feet
toward
that
fence.
There's
nothing,
nothing
on
the
other
side
of
that
fence
and
we're
not
and
we're
and
there's
mangroves
there,
which
cannot
be
removed,
which
was
a
big
selling
point
for
the
house
by
the
way.
I
So
so
in
statement
number
two
which
we
have
been
told,
we
have
not.
C
I
I
I
don't
believe
that
it
was
an
action
that
was
in
in
contradiction
to
your
desire
to
have
setbacks
that
encroach
on
neighbors
or
that
would
be
distracting
to
drive-bys
or
pedestrians,
or
anything
like
that.
There
is
nothing
there,
there's
no
road,
there's
no
sidewalk,
there's
no
pedestrians,
they
do
turn
around,
sometimes
right
there.
At
our
gate
number
three
literal
enforcement
of
the
requirements
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
I
Comprehensive,
I'm
just
going
to
skip
ahead
here
and
the
requested
variance
is
the
minimum
variance
that
would
make
possible
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property,
and
you
believe
we
have
not
met
that
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property
is.
We
have
no
desire
for
the
pool
to
dominate
our
front
porch
area,
which
is
a
lovely
area,
there's
landscaping
there.
I
It
only
goes
over
the
side
of
our
porch,
maybe
a
few
feet
the
front
porch
that
would
be
on
the
pool
side.
It's
a
large
front
porch.
So
so
we're
hoping
that.
I
Having
explained
these
things
about
our
process
and
our
story
and
wanting
to
have
a
pool
like
good
floridian
that
that
we
have
met
those
proposals
in
coming
tonight.
I
We
obviously
did
some
research
and
we
talked
to
some
people
and
one
of
our
neighbors
who
got
a
postcard.
Nick
zimbalis
gave
us
a
lot
of
advice
and
he
would
like
to
address
you
if
he
may
concerning
our
issues,
he's
a
civil
engineer
and
he's
very
familiar
with
the
city.
I
think
the
city
is
familiar
with
him
too
sure.
K
Thank
you.
Yes,
my
name
is
nicholas
zambellas.
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
tarpon
springs
actually,
second
generation.
This
was
our
junior
high
school,
so
yeah
I
had
the
privilege
of
serving
the
city
as
engineering
executive
of
the
firm.
That's
still
doing
practice
here
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
cardinal
well.
My
former
time
was
called
tbe
group
which
we
sold,
but
as
being
a
neighbor
and
within
the
500
foot
I
met
my
neighbors.
They
came
knocking
on
the
door
and
asked
if
I
had
any
objection.
K
I
told
him
no,
but
they
also
shared
some
of
the
concerns
and
the
report
that
you
did
excellent
report.
So
I
said
well
just
let
me
take
a
look
at
it
and
I'll
give
you
my
perspective
as
a
retired
civil
engineer,
and
so
as
I
read,
the
report
makes
sense.
K
Some
of
the
things
that
that
I
have
a
question
mark
in
my
head
is-
and
I
think
you
made
a
good
point
about
the
25-foot
setback.
It
doesn't
really.
There
is
no
criteria.
I
don't
see
it
because,
when,
when
I
referenced
the
the
municipal
code
in
munich
codes
in
3602,
it
does
clearly
spell
out
the
setbacks
as
it
relates
to
a
pool
as
it
relates
to
the
property
lines,
but
doesn't
mention
the
front
or
the
front
line,
and
you
know
they're
representative
of
eight
feet.
K
K
And
when
I
look
at
that
in
section
e,
it
does
make
reference
to
a
15..
The
setback
show
requirements
shall
be
15
feet
from
the
center
of
the
seawall
cap
and
I
think
they
were
relating
to
the
back
lot
line,
but
but
that
number
15.
but
25
doesn't
come
anywhere.
I
haven't
seen
anything
in
the
munico
that
talks
about
25,
except
for
the
front
line
and
and
miss
keene.
Do
you
have
the
property
survey
or
or
if
you
don't.
K
Yeah,
well,
that's:
let's
that's
a
good
one!
I'm
going
to
focus
on
that
one
for
a
little
bit
as
an
engineer,
I
view
that
that
property
line
that's
running
north
westerly,
that's
a
side
property
line.
Would
we
agree,
and
so
always
what
I
see.
K
There
is
a
side
property
line
that
has
different
degrees
of
boundaries,
so
that,
in
my
opinion,
is
a
property
line
that
produ
protrudes
north
northeasterly,
then
a
point
of
reference
turns
and
it
changes
a
bearing
that
goes
around
the
proposed
cul-de-sac:
that's
not
there
and
then
it
goes
from
there
to
another
point.
K
So
if
you
go
to
the
property
survey,
the
furthest
east
property
line,
we'll
call
that
the
front
property
line.
Would
you
agree
on
that?
Miss
keene
that
that
easterly
property
line
that's
running
north
north
and
south?
That's
would
be
called
a
front
property
line,
because
the
sea
wall
is
the
rear
property
line
and,
what's
interesting
is
that
the
front
property
line?
The
detached
structure
from
the
property
survey
is
at
a
setback
of
25
feet
so
that
25
foot
setback
applies
to
a
front
property
line.
K
K
If
you
can
see
that
so
if
if
that
had
been
two
pieces
of
property
and
where
that
first
arc
is
with
the
beginning
of
the
cul-de-sac
in
the
middle,
if
you
had
taken-
and
that
was
a
property
line
and
struck
a
straight
line
down,
I
can
understand
you
saying
that
it's
a
25-foot
setback
from
there,
but
that's
not
a
property
line.
That's
just
a
delineation
of
a
change
in
in
boundaries.
K
K
Then
I
looked
at
the
pool
itself
and
again
I
didn't
have
a
actual
design
schematic
drawing.
I
only
had
it
was
an
aerial
overview,
so
I
just
want
you
to
all
consider
that
the
pool
that
actually,
in
my
opinion,
encroaching
the
side
variants
is
see
the
little
arc
of
that.
You
know
what
I
call
this
diagram
of
a
pull.
It's
a
good
good
guitar
with
an
awkward
stem,
so
the
lap,
the
lap
portion
of
the
pool
is
not
in
violation
of
the
eight-foot
variants.
K
K
As
far
as
the
encroachment
and
I
kind
of
estimated,
because
I
don't
have
a
scale
but
that's
about
a
five
to
seven
foot
length
with
about
a
two
foot
arc
at
the
high
point-
so
that's
the
only
point
of
encroachment
in
my
opinion,
as
it
relates
to
the
to
their
variance
request.
I
just
think,
in
my
opinion,
if
it's
a
neighbor,
I
have
no
objections
to
it
for
those
conditions
and
I
think,
with
the
kidney
shape.
K
The
concern
I
have
when
I
read
the
report
is
that
they
do
support
relocating
dude.
They
do
support
attaching
to
the
sewer
system.
That's
a
good
thing,
but
I
don't
recommend
taking
now
the
septic
tank
out
and
opening
yourself
up
to
exposure
to
environmental
hazard,
because
one
of
the
suggestions,
I
think
I
read
was
that
they
consider
relocating
the
pool
over
to
that
side
which
would
be
surrounded
by
buildings.
Limited
sun,
limited
exposure.
But
my
more
concerns
I
told
him
as
an
engineer.
I
don't
think
you
want
to
start
going
into
an
old
septic
tank.
K
That's
been
there
many
years
and
now
start
to
remove
that
and
expose
yourself
to
some
environmental
conditions
that
you
have
to
make,
which
will
end
up
being
costly,
and
my
last
comment
about
the
vacant:
land-
that's
owned
by
the
trust.
It
is
true.
I
looked
at
it.
There
are
farming
environmentally
sensitive,
federally
protected
mangroves
there.
I
don't
see
that
being
a
buildable
lot.
So
that's
my
request.
I
urge
or
encourage
that
you
consider
these
things
and
possibly
consider
a
variance.
D
I
I
I
can
only
say
that
the
sketch
was
done
as
a
preliminary
drawing
by
the
pool
company
way
back
in
january
february,
when
we
were
first
starting
to
look
at
the
house.
We
closed
on
february
22nd.
I
So
there
are,
you
know
they
communicated
the
pool
company
communicated,
provided
the
the
explanations
and
and
the
drawings,
and
I
can't
speak
for
them.
But
I
I
can
speak
for
the
fact
that
I'm
not
going
to
let
them
just
put
the
pool
anywhere.
I
I
F
F
I
F
Okay,
if
you
want
to
have
to
put
a
deck,
don't
you
need
an
additional
setback
for
the
deck.
K
H
F
H
So
for
a
pool
deck,
essentially
anything
that's
under
30
inches
does
not
apply
for
setbacks,
so
theoretically
they
could
have
a
pool
deck
that
goes
up
to
the
property
line.
The
setback
requirement
is
from
the
water's
edge
of
the
pool
to
your
property
line.
M
I
was
just
wearing
you
welcome
to
tarpon
springs
first
off,
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you.
I
just
was
wondering
when
you
were
working
with
the
pool
company
and
you
were
working
with
them
to
design.
Is
it
like
a
prefab
structure
that
they
can't
adjust?
You
know
like
in
that
in
the
kidney
shape,
and
I'm
I'm
no
pool
expert,
but
in
the
kidney
shape,
where
it
kind
of
goes
over
a
little
bit.
M
G
J
We
didn't
want
based
on
where
trees
are
and
bushes
and
landscaping.
Now
this
is
where
the
pool
company
thought
it
fit
the
nicest
and
still
gave
us
enough
room
to
have
nancy,
and
I
both
have
heart
conditions
and
you'll,
see
that
that
that's.
J
M
J
M
Because
I
think,
while
I
applaud
you
in
in
wanting
to
do
that,
I
I
think
where
this,
where
I
interpret
the
staffing
report
in
saying
that
it's
caused
you
know
not
where
it
is
self-caused
is
somewhat
because
you
do
control
the
design
of
that
pool
could
possibly
make
a
pool
still
fit
in
that
property
boundary.
N
K
No,
I
know,
but
the
five
foot
request,
variance
to
the
eight
foot
and
to
me
I
think,
that's
a
reasonable
thing
that
I
would
be
saying
to
to
them
is
look
at
that
part,
because
that
is
a
fact
that
it
is
encroaching
into
that
eight
foot
by
two
three
feet.
Can
you
do
something
about
altering
that?
But
I
would
say
please
consider
your
decisions
that
until
there's,
in
my
opinion,
a
clear
reading
of
that
25-foot
setback,
those
two
kidney
shape.
K
If
you
slice
that
off
that
pull
is
going
to
look
not
too
desirable
and
you
can't
move
it
any
closer.
Because
when
I
looked
at
the
property
there's
palm
trees,
there's
there's
shrubbery
there,
and
I
think
you
now
start
to
take
trees
away,
which
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
So
that's,
but
I
think
you
make
a
good
point.
It's
a
matter
of
preference,
I
think,
but
they
should
be
able
to.
In
my
opinion,
your
your
pull
contractor
to
take
and
create
some
alteration
to
the
arc
to
make
it
meet
the
eight
foot
variants.
B
H
Yes,
so
where
I
can
agree
with
the
the
applicants
it
is,
it
is
a
different
property,
but
how
the
land
development
code
is
written,
this
property,
I'm
gonna,
try
to.
Can
you
see
my
mug?
Can
you
see
my
mouse?
Okay,
okay,
so
this
arc
to
this
point
over
here
is
considered
your
front
property
line,
and
that's
because
dorit
court
is
the
public
right
of
way
and
that's
where
your
front
is
determined.
So,
yes,
the
house
is
slightly
oriented
eastward,
but
the
front
property
line
is
this
entire
area?
H
H
So
with
those
situations
we
have
to
go
to
the
zoning
district
requirements
for
a
front
setback
and
in
the
r
100
district,
it's
25
feet
from
your
front
property
line.
So
that's
where
the
25
is
coming
from.
So,
yes,
it's
a
different
property,
but
that's
why
it's
considered
the
front,
because
door
court's
right
of
way
is
that
whole
this
area.
B
H
H
H
H
B
H
K
K
H
K
D
Over
the
many
years
that
we've
been
doing,
this
we've
had
the
definition
of
the
front
of
the
house,
many
different
places,
and
so
just
because
they're
saying
the
property
is
the
front.
Certainly
that's
not
the
front
of
the
house,
I
mean
you
could
see
that
very
clearly.
So
there
seems
to
be
some
some
leeway
here.
If
you
look
at
it
from
that
perspective,
see.
A
D
H
Just
to
answer
the
question
for
the
side:
setbacks
so
we'll
I'll.
Just
read
each
of
the
setbacks
for
the
r100
sony
district,
the
front
again
is
25
foot
minimum.
The
side
is
a
minimum
of
10
feet
with
a
total
of
25
for
both
side
yards,
so
they
need
to
total
25
a
side
street.
If
this
was
a
corner,
property
is
a
minimum
of
15
feet
and
the
rear
is
30
feet.
B
Eisner,
yes,
I
just
don't
know
who
who
do
you
want
me
to
address?
Okay?
Well,
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
because
it
determines
how
we
have
to
make
our
decision
we're
quasi-judicial,
we
don't
make
law,
we
decide
according
to
what
is
given
to
us.
B
B
This
pool
is
gigantic.
I
just
want
you
to
at
least
for
what
I
see.
It
is
a
huge
pool
and
is
there
any
way
possible
to
make
this
slightly
smaller,
because
if,
if
it
doesn't
fall
within
the
guidelines
of
what
we're
given
it's
it's
hard
for
us
to
give
you
a
variance
on
something
like
this
without
a
good
reason
and
I've
been
re,
I
I'm
reading
the
reasons
that
you're
putting
down
under
the
variance,
and
I
don't
really
see
that
we
can
at
least
that
I
can
give
you
a
variance
for
it.
B
So
that's
why
I
was
asking
this
question,
so
my
only
other
thought
would
be
to
see
if
you
could
make
this
pool.
Possibly
a
little
bit
smaller,
you
made
up
a
good
point
about
not
taking
out
the
septic
system,
because
that
would
have
been
possibly
a
recommendation
you
hook
up
which
eventually,
you
have
to
do
anyway,
to
the
sewer
system.
But,
yes,
you
don't
want
to
disturb
the
septic
system.
That
would
be
a
nightmare,
so
you
don't
have
much
and
when
I
said
the
pool
is
large.
B
I've
seen
a
lot
of
properties
here
in
tarpon
springs
and
for
tarpon
springs.
That
is
a
large
pool.
I
understand
you
want
it
to
be
a
lap
pool,
I'm
looking
at
this
with
your
what
I
would
call
your
bowling
alley
into
your
heart-shaped
pool
here,
you're
almost
at
50
feet.
J
B
J
That
was
the
idea
was
to
try
to
get
that
in
the
40
to
50
foot
and
and
that
really
doesn't
push
anything
other
than
the
trust
property
next
to
us,
which
is
in
our
understanding,
will
not
be
developed
because
of
the
mangroves
that
are
there
and
actually,
if
we,
if
you
don't,
allow
the
25
foot
variants
or
so
that
it
can
be
21
feet
instead
of
25.
J
B
Well,
I'm
not
telling
you
to
put
the
pool
closer
to
the
house
what
I'm
asking
you,
because
I
understand
that
there's
mangroves
and
whatnot,
but
according
to
the
rules
and
regulations
that
we're
bound
by,
we
cannot
just
ignore
that
either
you
make
the
all
the
criteria
or
the
reason
you
can't
make.
The
criteria
is
for
a
real,
a
real
necessity.
J
But
but
shrinking
the
part
down,
they
called
the
heart
part
of
it.
That
would
put
it
very
close
to
the
porch
and
very
close
to
the
house
and
take
it
out
of
the
sun
it
would.
It
would
make
a
big
difference.
J
B
It's
four
feet
that
we're
referring
to
that's
all
it
is
this
little
piece
here
by
the
five
foot
is
is
negligible.
J
Could
you
approve
the
variants
from
the
fence,
the
the
eight
foot
that
we're
talking
about
and
and
scale
back
four
feet
we're
not
allowed.
B
To
actually
play,
let's
make
a
deal
honestly,
we
have
to
you,
you
would
have
to
alter
the
the
application
and
then
we
would
have
to
decide
on
that.
If
I'm
correct.
A
They
and
we've
done
this-
this
board
has
done
this
before
if
the
request
ends
up
becoming
for
a
lesser
variance.
You
can
consider
that
at
the
at
the
hearing
today,
but
the
applicant
can
just
not
ask
for
a
larger
variance
and
asking
for
a
lesser
variance
that
then
cuts
against
the
criteria
that
it
was.
A
The
original
request
was
the
minimum
variance
required
in
order
to
make
the
project
work
so
keep
that
in
mind,
but
if
there
is
the
ability,
if
the
applicant
chooses
to
move
forward
with
a
lesser
variance,
you
can
hear
that
this
evening,
but
otherwise
amending
the
application
is,
would
call
for
a
separate
hearing.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
reference
to
the
25
foot
in
the
land
development
code
for
the
what
r
100
is
that
for
detached
dwellings.
H
It's
so
typically,
that's
typically,
you
would
apply
that
to
like
a
house
or.
H
K
Your
report
recommends
the
developments
and
you
identify
two
references
to
code
and
you
also
say:
district
intent
and
the
single
family
residential
districts
are
established
to
provide
for
detached
dwellings
in
a
variety
of
districts.
Then
you
go
on
to
reference
the
development
standards.
You
apply
the
per
section
25.02,
which
is
the
25-foot
setback
for
detached
dwellings.
K
H
Right,
I
see
I
see
where
you're
coming
from,
but
for
we
do
have
pool
setbacks,
like
you
said,
section
36.02
and
it
specifically
talks
about
your
side
and
rear,
because
it
does
not
talk
about
the
front
setback
we
have
to
default
to
the
zoning
district
setback
requirements.
So
that's
where
why
we
look
back
at
that
section.
25.
H
D
Yeah
we
can
go
to
if
you
have
no
further
presentation,
we
can
go
to
public
comment.
C
O
They
came
from
a
very
cold
area
and
they
are
loving
it.
It's
true.
She
does
do
laps.
That
was
one
reason
like
the
backyard.
It
was
totally
out
of
the
question
you're
right
there.
They
couldn't
put
a
pool
of
any
sort,
but
she
wanted
a
lap
pool,
but
they
also
wanted
another
pool.
Now.
What
I'm
going
to
say
is:
is
there
a
compromise?
Are
you
saying
to
just
shrink
the
heart
size
down
just
a
little
bit?
Is
that
all
you're,
asking
or
or
the
long
part.
B
B
Well,
if
you
gave
up
four
feet,
you
would
need
a
variance,
but
all
I'm
saying
to
you
is:
is
there
anything
you
know
when
somebody
comes
before
the
board
and
they
have
a
six
inches
or
a
foot
or
a
foot
and
a
half
we
might
be
able
to
say?
Oh
my
god,
let's
let's
try
to
do
that
and
see
if
we
when
you're
at
this,
it
makes
it
very
hard
because
you're
not
you're,
not
falling
under
the
criteria
at
all.
B
D
M
A
I
A
Size
of
the
pool
would
factor
into
would
be
whether
or
not
it's
the
minimum
variance
required
to
complete
the
project.
To
piggyback.
On
what
mr
eisner
said,
and
and
to
your
point
and
to
to
remind
the
board,
this
board
can't
compromise
and
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
negotiate.
A
This
board
has
people
on
it
that
really
do
want
to
try
and
help
applicants
in
this
community
and
being
the
bearer
of
bad
news.
I've
had
to
tell
them
on
numerous
occasions
that
is
not
their
job.
They
have
a
very
difficult
job.
If
the
applicants
cannot
meet
the
required
criteria
based
on
the
evidence
presented,
then
they
are
not
entitled
to
variants.
Variances
are
the
exception,
not
the
rule,
and
so
with
that
you
know
they
need
to
consider
the
evidence.
That's
presented.
O
O
K
H
So
so
the
setback
is
measured
from
the
closest
point,
yes
to
the
property
line,
so
right
now,
they're
requesting
that
distance
to
be
five
feet.
K
H
K
H
K
A
Well,
you're
the
variant
as
the
applicants
have
requested
it
based
on
the
evidence
that's
presented
and
based
on
the
grants.
Variants
that
will
be
granted
would
be
based
on
these
schematics
that
have
been
submitted,
yeah,
that
that
would
be
it
so
that
variance
isn't
going
to
go
all
the
way
to
say
the
backyard
or
anything
like
that.
Anyways.
D
K
K
H
D
D
Okay,
so
where
are
we?
Are
we
ready
to
go
to
any
further
public
comment,
four
against
okay,
seeing
none.
D
D
E
D
C
F
D
J
May
I
shake
your
hands
covered
in
all.
J
D
H
All
right,
I'm
already
up
there.
Okay,
this
property
is
outlined
again
in
yellow
it's
at
the
corner
of
pineapple
street
in
west
lemon
street.
It's
zoned
r-60,
a
majority
of
the
properties
around
are
also
r60.
There
is
some
multi-family
zoning
to
the
west.
H
The
applicants
are
looking
to
construct
a
new
pool
on
their
property,
as
well
as
a
bath
house
that
has
an
attached,
porch
they're
here
today
to
request
a
rear
setback,
variance
for
the
proposed
bath
house.
The
r-60
district
requires
a
minimum
20-foot
setback
and
they're
looking
for
a
10-foot
setback.
H
H
H
Again,
the
rear
setback
is
required
to
be
a
minimum
of
20
feet.
They're
proposing
10
feet,
there
is
a
20
foot
wide
alley
along
the
north
side
of
the
property
and
then
again,
this
is
another
situation
where
you
look
at
the
front
setback
of
the
zoning
district
for
the
pool
and
that's
required
to
be
25
feet
and
the
pool
does
meet
that
setback.
H
H
This
property
is
located
in
our
local
historic
district
and
it
did
go
before
the
the
current
proposal
did
go
before
the
heritage
preservation
board.
Back
in
april.
They
did
receive
certificate
of
approval
on
that
certificate
of
approval.
They
did
indicate
that
enable
to
get
the
10-foot
setback.
They
would
have
to
go
through
the
variance
process
when
reviewing
the
application.
The
preservation
board
did
look
at
historic
guidelines
and
design
guidelines.
I've
pulled
out
a
few
of
them
that
are
applicable
to
this
proposal.
H
One
is
that
new
outbuilding
should
be
located
to
the
rear
yard.
The
heritage
preservation
board
specifically
noted
this
that
they
were
in
favor
of
a
reduced
setback
because
it
pushed
the
proposed
accessory
structure
back
on
the
property
and
made
it
more
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure,
which
is
the
historic
structure
on
the
property
two
other
guidelines,
the
building
setbacks
shall
conform
with
historic
or
predominant
setbacks
along
the
street,
and
the
scale
of
a
new
garage
or
outbuilding
shall
be
compatible
with
both
the
street
and
alley
environments
of
the
historic
district.
H
When
they
are
reviewing
this
application,
they
did
note
that
there
are
some
existing
accessory
structures
that
are
oriented
towards
the
alley
and
close
to
the
alley.
Right-Of-Way
line
a
few
of
them
are
shown
here
highlighted
in
orange,
one
of
which
is
an
existing
shed.
That's
on
the
subject:
property.
M
Just
clarifying
on
the
agenda
it
had
mentioned
west
lemon
but
on
the
application,
is
east
lemon.
Is
that
correct
just
want
to
make
sure
for
our
minutes
we're
dealing
with
east
east
lemon,
okay?
Okay?
What's.
H
So
those
are
existing
structures
that
have
been
there
for
quite
some
time.
I
believe
that
the
existing
shed
is,
I
believe,
it's
a
contributing
altered
structure
acknowledged
by
the
florida
master
site
file.
So
that's
something
that's
been
there
for
time
and
legally
non-conforming.
H
H
Right
right,
so
that's
why
I
was
mentioning
this
is
a
structure.
That's
been
there
for
quite
some
time,
potentially
prior
to
setback
requirements
whatnot,
but
it's
not.
I
don't
know
if
it
has
a
specific
permit
or
not.
D
C
Well,
at
bottom
line
is
we're.
I
mean
we
followed
all
the
guidelines
for
the
pool,
the
historic
history.
We
are
just
matching
the
alley
that
goes
between
pineapple
and
shadow.
There
are
a
few
residents
that
are
on
the
property
line
or
within
that
ten
feet
to
the
east
of
him.
There's
a
three-car
garage.
C
M
D
Mr
eisner,
okay,
do
we
have
any
one
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
issue?
Please
come
come.
N
Sprecker,
I'm
at
405,
west,
london
right.
D
N
You,
okay,
a
couple
things
need
to
be
brought
out
again,
probably
is
when
the
historic
society
or
the
board
was
they
put
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
moving
the
structure
back.
It
makes
a
lot
on
the
balance
the
way
it
looks
in
the
neighborhood
okay.
So
to
get
that
the
10
foot
was
more
applicable
than
having
a
10
foot
forward
into
the
front.
Another
thing
is
the
existing
alleyway
does
have
a
lot
of
structures
that
are
well
within
10
foot
and
those
are
existing.
N
P
P
My
house
is
built
in
1926.
I
just
added
on
to
the
existing
one
car
garage
that
was
there
that
was
already
there
and
also
the
house
on
pineapple
and
spring
bayou.
They
have
a
garage
there,
that's
probably
right
on
the
property
line.
So
there's
really.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
no-brainer
here.
Thank
you.
So
much.
D
F
E
D
E
H
All
right,
okay,
this
property
again
is
located
off
of
meyer
lane.
It's
owned
r
100,
there's
really
a
mixture
of
single
family
zoning
districts.
Within
this
immediate
area,
there
is
an
existing
right-of-way,
which
is
villa
street.
It
is
unimproved
that
runs
along
this
subject:
property.
H
So
look
at
the
provided
survey.
The
area
shown
in
blue
is
where
the
carport
would
be
located.
The
applicant
currently
does
not
have
any
access
onto
meyer
lane.
She
currently
gets
to
her
property
through
villa
street,
the
unimproved
right-of-way,
with
the
approval
of
a
carport.
She
would
be
adding
a
driveway
to
connect
to
meyer
lane.
H
H
As
I
mentioned,
there
is
a
40-foot
unimproved
right-of-way,
which
is
villa
street
along
the
western
property
line.
The
applicant
did
meet
with
the
city's
technical
review
committee
to
discuss
the
possibility
of
vacating
that
right-of-way
that
would
negate
the
need
for
a
variance
request.
The
city
indicated
that,
although
there
was
no
pavement
in
that
right
of
way,
they
do
have
some
utility
so
they'd
like
to
maintain
it,
so
they
would
not
we're
not
in
favor
of
vacating
the
right-of-way.
H
H
H
This
image
here
is
again
probably
a
little
difficult
to
see
on
this
screen,
but
it
shows
kind
of
the
higher
point
of
the
backyard
that
goes
down
to
the
lower
point
of
the
backyard
with
some
vegetation
and
then
just
to
show
you
some
of
the
tree
canopy.
I
provided
an
aerial
photograph
here
for
you
and
with
that
I
can
take
any
questions.
Q
D
Okay,
do
we
have
any
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
side,
seeing
none
we're
going
to
go
for
a
motion.
L
D
F
D
H
H
H
Basically,
once
you
do
the
fdr
calculation,
it
represents
the
maximum
square
footage
that
you're
allowed
to
build
on
a
property.
So
a
simple
example:
if
you
have
a
10
000
square
foot
lot,
it
has
a
1.0
permitted
far
you're
allowed
to
have
a
total
of
10
000
square
feet
of
gross
building
area.
That
10
000
square
feet
could
be
built
as
one
story
or
you
can
break
it
up
to
two
five
thousand
square
foot
floors.
You
just
can't
exceed
that
maximum
number
far
is
used
to
control,
essentially
intensity
of
development.
In
a
given
area.
H
So
going
back
to
our
request,
this
is
a
conceptual
drawing
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant
just
to
represent
the
footprint
changes.
The
area
shown
in
the
darkest
color
green
represents
the
existing
building
footprint.
It
is
a
two-story
building
the
gross
floor
area,
for
both
of
those
stories
is
just
under
6
500
square
feet.
The
existing
far
is
0.9.
H
H
H
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
property
is
located
in
the
city's
special
area
plan.
The
special
area
plan
boundary
is
shown
on
both
of
these
maps.
It's
the
black
dashed
line.
The
special
area
plan
is
a
policy
document
that
helps
to
guide
the
development
and
future
redevelopment
of
the
properties
within
that
boundary.
H
The
sister
document
of
the
special
area
plan
is
the
smart
code
and
the
smart
code
is
your
basically
your
development
regulations.
It
provides
the
specific
development
standards
for
properties,
so
maybe
a
comparison
would
be.
The
special
area
plan
is
your
comprehensive
plan
and
then
the
smart
code
is
your
land
development
code.
For
this
particular
area.
H
The
special
area
plan,
which
is
the
map
here
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
is
broken
up
into
10
different
character
districts.
The
subject
property
is
located
within
the
downtown
district,
which
is
outlined
in
red,
and
you
may
or
may
not
see
the
little
tiny
star,
but
that's
where
the
subject
property
is.
H
The
smart
code
is
broken
up
into
several
different
transect
zones,
which
is
the
map
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
this
further
breaks
down
those
character
districts
and
provides
specific
development
regulations
for
those
properties,
important
to
note
that
there
can
be
several
different
transact
zones
within
any
given
character
district
and
vice
versa,
jumping
back
to
the
character
districts.
Their
main
purpose
is
to
provide
general
use
allowances,
as
well
as
setting
your
max
densities
and
intensities,
which
is
your
far.
H
So
these
are
both
excerpts
from
both
of
those
documents.
The
one
on
the
left
hand,
side
is
from
our
special
area
plan.
This
is
specifically
the
downtown
table
about
the
general
use
allowances,
as
well
as
the
floria
ratio
and
density,
and
I
know
you
can't
read
all
this
information
on
here,
but
essentially
the
special
area
plan
allows
a
maximum
far
in
the
downtown
character
district
of
1.25.
H
However,
there
is
a
special
allowance
for
properties
that
are
fronting
tarpon
avenue
between
pinellas
avenue
and
ring
avenue
that
special
allowance
allows
for
those
properties
have
a
2.0.
Far
when
you
look
at
the
smart
code,
which
is
a
table
on
the
right
hand,
side
in
the
t5b
district,
which
is
what
we're
referring
to
it,
allows
a
maximum
a
floor
area
ratio
of
1.25.
H
This
is
a
different
type
of
variance
than
you're
used
to
is
an
far
adjustment.
There
is
a
different
set
of
criteria.
There's
nine
different
standards,
which
I
have
out
here
for
your
reference
up
on
the
screen
and
they're
also
outlined
in
your
staff
report.
With
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
questions.
M
More
2011.
H
M
H
H
M
M
G
B
I
had
here
on
my
first
page
where
it
says
the
applicants
are
proposing
a
two-story
edition
which
exceeds
the
maximum,
so
I
of
course
wrote
why
isn't
this
changed
to
o
and
then,
of
course,
I
read
further
and
saw
that
it
is
in
the
process
of
being
changed,
because
why
I
bring
this
up
is
we
have
a
lot
of
different
types
of
variances
that
cross
this
board,
and
I
want
to
complement
you
because
a
lot
of
times
we
just
get
the
same
type
of
variances
over
and
over
again
and
it
doesn't
get
changed
and
that's
creates
a
problem
on
page
two
number
five.
B
H
Why
do
we
have
the
1.25?
Yes,
I
can't
speak
exactly
why
1.25
was
the
number
chosen,
but
you
know
essentially
you'll
you.
If
you
look
at
the
smart
code,
you'd
see
that
several
of
the
other
transit
zones
have
a
range
of
density
because,
like
I
said
some
of
the
character,
districts
and
transit
zones
will
overlap,
so
they
may
have
different
allowances.
H
B
L
Good
evening,
katie
cole,
with
the
law
firm
of
hill
ward
henderson
representing
the
applicant,
miss
kane,
did
an
amazing
job
recapping
the
evidence
that
was
included
in
the
application,
as
well
as
her
staff
report,
and
we
concur.
I
did
just
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
just
to
highlight
a
couple
things
that
she
included
as
evidence
in
the
report,
but
I
think
we're
important.
Besides
the
inconsistency
between
the
plan
and
the
code,
this
is
consistent
with
many
of
the
other
buildings
on
tarpon
avenue.
L
The
applicant
knows
that
it
will
be
moving
forward
to
the
historic
preservation
board
in
any
reservations
or
construction
that
goes
on
here,
but
my
client
is
the
contract
purchaser
of
this
building,
and
this
was
really
the
first
step
if
they
could
even
do
an
addition,
it
was
going
to
be
the
difference
of
bringing
a
business
to
downtown
turpin
or
not
so
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I'm
happy
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
project,
but
I
also
know
that
this
was
a
speedy
meeting
for
you
all.
M
H
Yeah,
this
is
specific
to
the
the
floorie
ratio
and
then
just
for
some
clarification
too
say
for
some
reason:
this
doesn't
go
forward.
It
does
run
with
the
land,
but
variances
would
expire
after
two
years
right.
Thank
you.
L
For
this
sure,
our
club,
my
client,
is
a
company
called
co-hatch
out
of
the
ohio
area
and
they
do
co-working
space
and
it's
a
wonderful
program.
I
know
the
city
has
looked
at
other
co-working
space
in
downtown
and
this
is
an
opportunity
for
a
private
business
to
bring
it
in
they
partner
with
a
brewery
that
is
a
restaurant,
food
and
beverage
service,
and
so
the
space
will
be
a
mixed-use
space.
It
would
provide
open
food
and
beverage
service
in
the
evenings,
but
then,
during
the
day
it
would
operate.
L
On
the
second
floor
and
portions
of
the
first
floor
as
co-working
space
there's
private
offices,
as
well
as
conference
rooms,
available
here's
a
floor
plan
that
shows
a
little
bit.
You
can
see
the
existing
exterior
wall
as
compared
to
a
proposed
and
really
the
proposed
addition
is
to
add
additional
offices.
L
Co-Hatch
is
a
really
interesting
co-working
concept,
in
my
opinion,
not
work
being
their
lawyer,
not
not
their
marketing
person,
but
you
join
the
company
and
then
you
can
utilize
their
buildings
and
their
offices
all
around
the
country
in
the
world
so
as
opposed
to
just
signing
up
for
a
single
office.
In
tarpon
springs,
it
may
be
that
a
business
person
who's
a
member
of
a
san
francisco
co-hatch
comes
to
do
business
in
tarpon
springs
and,
while
they're
officing
here
with
office
from
this
building.
So
it's
it's
a
in
my
opinion
as
well.
L
Seeing
a
lot
of
projects,
it's
a
very
interesting
way
to
utilize
office
space
and
activate
first
floor,
especially
along
tarpon
avenue.
Giving
the
food
and
beverage
service
on
the
first
floor
allows
it
to
be
interactive
throughout
the
day
and
the
evening,
as
opposed
to
having
an
office
just
close
its
door
and
walk
away,
which
offices
are
permitted
use
on
tarpon
ave,
and
so
this
allows
it
to
be
activated,
gives
that
first
floor
option.
So,
to
your
point,
miss
right,
rich.
L
It's
not
guaranteed
that
this
would
all
go
through,
but
certainly
this
is
the
first
step,
so
cohatch
also
specializes
and
prides
itself
in
repurposing
historic
structures,
so
we're
working
on
a
couple
of
projects
now
we're
in
permitting
in
st
petersburg
working
on
a
plan
in
west
tampa,
so
there
this
would
be
the
third
in
the
bay
area.
L
L
N
E
B
B
L
D
G
F
H
I
don't
I
didn't,
have
any
comments,
but
I'll
just
mention
one
thing.
Mr
eisner
mentioned
on
the
last
case
about
how
it's
nice
to
see
that
we
found
an
inconsistency
and
we're
going
through
revisions.
Just
so
you
know
like
I've
mentioned
in
the
past,
we
are
going
to
be
going
through
a
process
to
do
some
revisions
to
our
land
development
code,
and
one
thing
we
do
look
at
are
the
past
variances
that
came
before
the
board
and
kind
of
the
track
record
of
those.