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A
B
A
C
D
E
I
sure
can
before
we
do,
that
I
would
like
to
just
not
an
issue,
but
just
a
recommendation
on
the
agenda.
There
is
number
six.
Is
the
comprehensive
plan
workshop
before
you
can
start
the
workshop
you're
going
to
have
to
adjourn
the
regular
meeting
and
then
begin
the
workshop?
But
if
you
see
on
the
agenda,
the
approval
of
the
minutes
is
number
seven,
since
no
actual
action
can
be
taken
at
a
workshop
item,
number
seven
is
going
to
be
need
to
be
moved
to
item
number.
Six
and
six
will
need
to
be
number
seven.
A
D
E
Right,
thank
you,
and
now
I
will
proceed.
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
board
of
adjustment
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
E
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
E
If
the
confident,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordnance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
Are
there
many
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
ex
parte
communications
or
conflicts
of
interest
this
evening?
F
A
F
F
F
F
This
is
a
look
at
their
proposed
site
plan.
The
pool
screen
enclosure
is
primarily
going
to
follow
their
existing
pool
deck
again.
The
lane
development
code
does
have
specific
setback
requirements
for
pool
screen
enclosures.
The
rear
requirement
is
a
minimum
of
five
feet
plus
outside
any
easement.
In
this
case,
their
enclosure
would
be
a
minimum
of
five
feet
and
it's
outside
of
an
existing
utility
easement.
F
A
C
D
E
No
that
doesn't
necessarily
apply
to
your
board.
That's
in
the
heritage
preservation
board's
rules
governing
rules-
it's
not
really
in
your
rules
or
procedure.
I
mean
you,
don't
have
a
full
board,
but
your
board
is
five
at
a
full
board.
So
you'd
still
require
a
three
vote
majority
in
order
to
have
an
affirmative
vote
for
a
variant.
So
no
that's
not
necessary.
Thank.
D
A
A
A
Thank
you
is
there
any
information
that
you
would
like
to
present
to
us
tonight?
That
is
not
already
included
in
the
packet.
C
A
I
understand
well,
thank
you.
If
you
can
hold
on
one
sec,
are
there
any
questions
of
the
applicant?
A
A
A
G
A
All
right
happy
screening,
so
our
next
application
number
22-59,
which
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
required
side,
yard
setback
for
a
detached
garage
at
tessier
drive.
F
F
F
A
building
permit
was
issued
for
the
construction
of
the
existing
home,
as
well
as
the
detached
garage
on
the
property
back
in
2014.
At
the
time
that
permit
was
approved
with
a
five-foot
side
setback
for
the
detached
garage.
Subsequently,
the
garage
was
constructed
in
2014
with
that
five
foot
side
yard
setback.
F
The
land
development
code
allows
the
board
of
adjustments
to
grant
an
after
the
fact,
variance
in
the
highly
unusual
circumstances
that
the
four
criteria
here
on
the
screen
have
been
met.
Those
include
the
property
owner
or
contractor
has
made
a
mistake
in
the
construction
of
a
structure,
and
it
would
be
economically
impractical
to
correct
the
mistake.
The
time
it
was
discovered,
the
appropriate
building
permit
or
other
use
permit
has
been
issued.
F
This
slide
is
showing
you
two
different
site
plans.
The
one
on
the
left
over
here
was
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted
with
the
permit
and
approved.
As
you
can
see,
the
detached
garage
was
approved.
It's
very
tiny,
but
a
five
foot
side
set
rack
from
their
west
property
line.
The
survey
that's
shown
here
on
the
right
is
the
post
construction
survey
and
again
the
detached
garage
was
constructed
with
a
five
foot
side
setback
in
this
case.
It's
this
number
here
staff
did
do
research
on
the
permitting
history
of
this
property.
F
F
We
also
took
this
application
to
the
technical
review
committee,
as
we
do
with
all
applications
to
review
for
any
sort
of
potential
concerns
or
issues
both
the
code
enforcement
department,
as
well
as
the
fire
department,
did
go
out
and
determine
that
they
there
were
no
safety
issues
with
the
reduced
side,
setback
or
the
location
of
the
proposed
or
the
existing
garage.
F
The
land
development
code
allows
reduced
side
and
rear
yard
setbacks
for
detached
garages.
If
they
have
certain
size
limitations
met
in
the
r
100
zoning
district,
the
maximum
size
that's
allowed
to
get
those
reductions
is
562.5
square
feet.
The
existing
garage
is
approximately
440
square
feet
in
size,
so
it
does
meet
those
size
limitations.
F
F
One
consideration
with
this
property.
Is
this:
the
affected
property
line?
The
west
property
line
is
the
side
property
line
for
the
subject
property.
However,
for
the
adjacent
property
to
the
west,
it
is
the
rear
property
line
due
to
the
orientation
of
this
house
in
the
future.
If
this
property
owner
were
to
construct
a
detached
garage
within
those
size
limitations,
it
could
be
only
five
feet
from
this
effect.
The
same
property
line.
F
D
F
Sure
so
this
originally
came
to
our
attention
from
a
complaint
to
code
enforcement.
That's
when
research
took
place
and
then
we
consulted
with
our
attorneys
and
they
determined
that
to
rectify
the
issue
and
to
legally
recognize
the
non-conformity.
The
best
factor
and
best
avenue
was
to
go
through
the
after
the
fact
variance
approval
process
again
with
any
variance
it's
up
to
the
board
whether
the
evidence
and
criteria
have
been
met.
F
F
A
Built
eight
years
ago,
correct,
okay,
follow
and
and
to
clarify.
So
what
was
built
eight
years
ago,
that's
before
us
here
was
built
in
accordance
to
what
the
permitted
documents
were
showing,
which
is
five
feet
side
and
five
feet
rear
when
it
really
should
have
had
a
seven
and
a
half
feet
side:
correct.
A
F
A
H
A
H
H
I
said:
okay,
I'll,
move
the
sheds
back.
H
H
H
So
that's
my
question:
why
are
why
is
that
property
not
subject
to
code
enforcement,
as
I
have
been.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for.
H
B
Understand,
did
you
have
a
concrete
pad
on
that.
H
H
Oh,
I
bought
the
house
a
couple
years
ago.
The
shed
had
been
it's,
it's
an
old
shed,
the
guy
had
some
gardening
stuff
in
the
back
and
I'd
tore
all
that
out
and
move
the
shed
where
the
gardening
stuff
was
but
which
brought
the
shed
about
a
foot
too
close
to
the
fence.
H
So
there
was
a
huge,
huge
issue
over
it
code
enforcement.
I
got
a
letter
within
48
hours
to
move
the
shed
back,
move
the
funny
thing
about
it.
As
I
move
the
shed
back,
I
know
soon
I
moved
the
shed
back
and
I
reconnected
the
electrical
to
the
shed
for
the
light
and
I
was
found
in
violation
for
not
having
an
electoral
permit.
H
H
A
Okay,
sir,
I
I
understand
that
you
know
you
certainly
are
facing
these
challenges,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
you
took
the
extra
effort
to
to
move
your
sheds
on
your
property
to
make
sure
your
property
was
in
compliance,
so
that
that's
certainly
recognized
and
appreciated
from
what
we're
understanding
you
know.
A
As
we're
presented
from
city
staff,
the
applicant
is
actually
the
city
itself:
it's
not
the
property
owner,
because
the
city
staff
eight
years
ago,
which
is
not
miss,
keene
or
anyone
else
sitting
here,
had
aired
when
they
issued
the
permit
for
the
construction
of
this
garage.
So
ms
keane,
if
you
can
clarify,
is
the
the
garage
in
question.
Is
this
a
permanent
structure,
something
on
a
foundation?
So
it's
not
like
a.
A
D
Do
but
not
necessarily
for
this
gentleman,
I
I
guess
for
ally
and
our
attorney
right.
If
we
were
to
deny
the
variance
to
this
city.
What
happens
then.
E
If
the
variance
is
denied
because
you
feel
that
the
evidence
doesn't
meet
the
criteria,
then
the
applicant,
just
like
any
other
applicant-
has
the
recourse
to
take
an
appeal
of
that
within
the
30-day
time
period.
That's
allotted
with
a
court
of
competent
jurisdiction
and
there
may
be
other
some
other
remedies
that
law
between
the
property
owner
and
whatnot
and
the
city.
E
So
I
am
not
the
property
owner's
attorney,
so
I'm
not
going
to
advise
on
that,
but
just
like
anyone,
if
you
deny
a
per,
if
you
deny
a
variant,
then
they
have
a
right
to
an
appeal
and.
H
H
Okay,
they
pulled
a
permit.
I
go
out,
go
through
the
process
again.
A
second
time
I
submitted
on
pictures.
The
city
said:
if
you
put
this
fence
up,
we'll
be
okay.
I
said
okay
I'll
put
that
fence
up.
So
I
put
the
fence
up
four
or
five
thousand
dollars
later
put
the
fence
up
fence
is
not
up.
Two
days
here.
Comes
code
enforcement:
hey
that's
got
to
go.
I
said
it's
the
fence.
You
told
me
to
put
up,
they
said
yeah.
H
Well,
we
got
some
issues
with
it
because
if
the
pickets
are
perfectly
lined
up,
it
creates
a
visibility
issue
now
mind
you
one
way.
One
lane
street
I
said
well,
surely
there's
got
to
be
another
option.
Why
can't
you
change
traffic?
Why
isn't
there
a
simpler
solution,
rather
than
continue
to
create
a
financial
hardship
on
me.
E
H
My
point
is
the
city
approved
the
permit
for
the
fence
as
well
acknowledged
their
mistake
for
the
fence
and
the
city
paid
to
move
the
fence.
They
said
he
said:
hey,
listen.
We
made
a
mistake.
It's
our
mistake.
We're
going
to
make
it
right.
The
city
contracted
directly
with
the
fence
company
spent
taxpayers
dollars
to
move
the
fence
that
they
approved.
A
And
I
do
understand
that,
and
the
city
was
in
the
wrong
and
it
was
unfortunately
you
know
you
were
in
the
middle
of
it
and
it
sounds
like
that.
It
they
righted
the
wrong
by
the
moving
the
fence.
Now
in
this
situation,
thinking
logically
and
we're
all
residents
and
taxpayers,
you
know
here
in
the
city.
I
agree,
that's
frustrating
that
our
you
know
tax
dollars
and
our
hard-earned
money
is
used
to
move
this
fence.
A
That
can
I
understand
that
frustration,
but
I'm
thinking
wow
what
an
amazing
frustration
that
would
be
to
move
or
tear
down
a
whole
structure
garage,
so
a
garage
versus
a
fence,
that's
where
you
know
taking
some
practicality,
which
is
kind
of
the
nature
of
this
board.
To
where
you
know,
that's
why
we
have
the
human
element
here
to
where,
as
you
can
see,
you
know,
miss
keene
went
went
through
the
criteria.
That's
before
us
is
that
we
are
to
look
at
that
and
use
the
the
human
sense
to
make
that
determination.
A
What
is
the
best
and
most
appropriate
court
of
a
course
of
action,
and
while
staying
within
the
criteria
that's
before
us,
which
ms
keane,
I
believe
it
was
the
site
history
slide.
So
it's.
What
has
the
criteria
that
we
have
to
determine
as
a
board
again
being
the
humans
and
not
looking
just
at
the
black
and
white?
Is
that
we
can
grant
an
after
the
fact
variance,
which
is
what
this
is
in.
H
A
A
B
H
B
A
H
I
understand
it's
gonna
be
expensive.
Okay,
my
question
to
you
is:
if
it
creates
a
financial
hardship,
what's
what
what's
the
break
point?
Is
it
five
grand?
Is
it
ten
grand
at
what
point
does
the
board
say?
You
know
what
we
made
a
mistake.
We
got
to
own
it.
We
got
to
you
know
we
got
to
make
it
happen.
B
A
A
H
I
I
don't
know
that
I
would.
I
don't
disagree
with
that.
I
don't,
I
don't
think
anyone
did
anything
on
purpose,
but
the
fact
that
my
my
issue
is
that
I
was
held
to
a
different
standard
and
now
that
you
say
it's
a
financial
hardship.
Well
that
cost
me
a
thousand
dollars
to
move
those
sheds.
That
was
a
financial
hardship
for
me.
E
Madam
chair,
might
I
yes,
ali
are
sheds
regulated
differently
than
garages
as
permanent
structures
in
the
land
development
code.
F
So
they're
under
the
same
code
section,
I
don't
have
the
language
up
here:
oops,
but
there's
different
requirements
so
sheds
that
are
200
square
feet
in
size
or
less
on
a
residential
property
also
can
take
advantage
of
reduced
setbacks.
However,
those
setbacks
are
both
five
feet
from
the
rear
and
the
side.
So
there
are
different
standards.
The
detached
garage
has
the
reduced
setback
to
seven
and
a
half
feet
so
they're
slightly
different
they're,
still
size
limitations
in
play
with
that
as
well.
E
Issues
and
things
like
that,
okay,
so
I
only
ask
those
questions.
I
only
ask
those
questions,
because
there
is
a
difference
in
regulation
between
a
shed
and
a
detached
garage
within
the
land
development
code
and
within
the
florida
building
code,
which
I
understand
is
not
this
board's
purview.
So
you
know
to
your
point
that
there
is
a
difference
in
regulation
between
the
two,
so
the
same,
the
same
things
are
not
being
applied
to
your
property
as
they're
being
applied
to
this
property.
However,
I'd
like
to
also
just
bring
it
back
to
this
application.
E
D
A
E
C
C
C
This
is
clearly
retaliation
from
him,
because
our
neighbors
had
a
problem
with
this
fence
situation
and
now
he's
bringing
things
like
this
up
he's
hanging.
Black
flies
black
live
matter
flags
which,
to
me,
is
a
racist
flag
right
at
the
edge
of
these
people's
house
when
he
could
be
put
in
front
of
his
house,
it's
clear
retaliation
and
it's
just
ridiculous.
C
That's
I
don't
understand
what
what
the
point
of
this
is.
We're
gonna
move
someone's
garage,
I
mean
it
doesn't
make
any
sense.
So
what
are
we
doing?
I
I
just
that's
all
I
really
have
to
say
I
mean
like
you
know
they
had
this
problem
with
this
fence.
I
live
on
the
next
street,
but
you
know
it's
just
this
whole
thing
doesn't
make
any
sense.
It's
a
huge
waste
of
time.
I
mean
they're
gonna
move
their
entire.
C
A
C
F
E
C
I
I
see
that
you're
leaning
from
the
very
beginning
toward
admitting
your
mistake
and
just
approving
this,
this
motion-
and
I
agree
with
that-
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
think
it'll
settle
things
quickly
and
I
don't
think
anybody
will
be
hurt
in
any
way
financially
in
any
way,
which
I
think
is
the
big
problem
here
is
money.
I
We
never
had
we've
lived
on
at
this
address.
We
built
the
house
that
we
started
building
in
2013
and
finished
in
2014
and
moved
in,
and
we
weren't
even
aware
that
there
was
a
setback
for
the
garage
on
the
side
and
that
we
weren't
in
compliance
until
a
code
violation
came
up
and
I
I
think
that
it
came
up
in
retaliation
of
the
fence
and
the
fence
in
question.
I
I
know
I
know
that
we're
not
here
for
the
fence,
but
the
fence
was
built,
which
is
a
beautiful
fence,
and
I
have
no
problem
with
it,
but
it
was
built
all
the
way
down
the
driveway,
which
is
fine
but
right
up
to
the
street
within
mere
inches.
So
it
blocked
our
view
of
oncoming
traffic
and
pedestrians,
and
we
only
live
a
block
from
the
middle
schools.
We've
got
a
lot
of
kids
that
are
walking
up
and
down
and
riding
their
bikes.
I
I
A
I
A
A
Does
it
oh
well,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
of
anyone
if
you
could
please
step
forward
and
be
sworn
in
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record?
Yes,
ma'am.
E
C
C
I
Ma'am,
thank
you,
the
fence
in
question.
When
we
built
our
house,
we
were
asked
to
put
a
sidewalk
in
which
cost
us
about
four
thousand
dollars
and
we
did
put
a
sidewalk
in
our
neighbor's
fence,
effectively
cuts
off
the
sidewalk
so
that
the
kids
must
go
into
the
street
to
walk.
I
A
It
does
seem,
as
council
has
wisely
brought
up,
is
that
I,
while
we
do
recognize
that
this
fence
in
question,
is
a
topic
of
conversation,
to
say
the
least.
It
is
not
the
property
nor
the
condition
which
is
in
the
application
that
is
before
us.
A
The
application
that
is
before
us
is
presented
to
us
as
the
applicant
being
the
city,
which
is
a
unique
thing
for
us,
but
not
completely
unheard
of
to
right,
a
wrong
that
I
personally
am
calling
an
innocent
mistake,
because
we
are
human
and
is
addressing
the
side
setback
of
this
garage,
not
a
fence
on
another
piece
of
property,
that's
another
property
and
another
issue
for
another
board
for
another
day,
if
we
had
any
other
people
from
the
public
wanting
to
speak.
Otherwise,
we
will
close
public
comment.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
Staff,
slash
applicant,
any
other
comments
before
we
move
on.
No,
I
don't
have
anything
okay,
okay,
so
if
we
may
have
a
motion.
D
I
would
just
like
to
stay
for
the
record.
I
actually
understand
both
sides
of
this
situation
and
unfortunately
it
seems
the
city
is
the
instigator
that
you
guys
wouldn't
be
at
war
with
each
other.
If
the
city
hadn't
made
the
mistake-
and
I
can't
apologize
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
if
I
could,
I
would
because
that's
it's
good
to
get
along.
D
You
know
I
mean
especially
living
next
door
to
each
other
and
just
try
to
do
the
best
you
can
to
not
upset
one
another,
but
I
don't
think
this
would
have
happened
at
all
if
it
wasn't
for
those
mistakes
and
that's
really
unfortunate
man,
I
just
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
to
say.
D
Just
if
there
was
going
to
be
a
code
enforcement
war,
please
reconsider
that
because
nobody
gets
on
top
of
that.
That's
a
that's
a
losing
battle
for
everybody.
I
mean
please
do
the
best
you
can
to
be
respectful
of
each
other
from
now
on,
because
that
can
only
get
worse.
You
know
I'm
saying
so.
D
A
You
that's
all
I
have
to
say
miss
simon.
Can
you
now
come?
Mr
boris?
Okay,
I
echo
mr
herbalski's
sentiment
and
regarding
that
this
is,
you
know,
a
situation
where
the
city's
trying
to
right
or
wrong,
and
what
I
would
like
to
believe
is
an
innocent
mistake,
no
malicious
intent
and
yes,
there
are
costs.
There's
financial
costs
involved
in
rectifying
situations,
be
it
moving
a
fence,
a
shed,
a
garage,
a
pool.
You
know
reminds
us
of
the
application
we
had
earlier.
We
could
have
denied
that
and
said,
move
your
pool.
A
A
Okay,
so
we're
moving
on
to
application
number
22
64
for
the
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
allowable
driveway
width
properties
at
425,
west
martin
luther
king
jr
drive
okay,
may
we
have
the
staff
presentation
please?
Yes,.
F
This
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
west
martin
luther
king
jr
boulevard
boulevard,
not
drive
outlined
here
in
yellow
the
property
itself
is
zoned
r
70,
which
is
a
one
and
two
family
residential
zoning
district,
there's
multi-family
zoning
to
the
south
of
property
and
then
r60,
one
and
two
families.
Zoning
to
the
north.
F
The
applicants
are
here
today
requesting
a
variance
to
allow
an
existing
driveway
to
be
replaced
and
widened
and
be
wider
than
what
is
allowed
by
the
lane
development
code.
As
you
may
recall,
back
in
april,
the
applicant
came
before
us
to
request
a
similar
variance.
They
have
since
then,
and
the
board
did
deny
that
request.
They
have
since
then
revised
their
application,
reduced
the
size
that
they're
requesting
and
has
have
submitted
the
current
variants
that
you
see
today
they
are
proposing
a
total
width
for
the
circular
driveway
to
be
37.5
feet
wide.
F
F
F
The
existing
driveway
is
currently
non-conforming
and
it
is
29.5
feet
in
width
and
again
they
are
proposing
a
width
of
37
and
a
half
feet.
The
site
plane
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant
just
for
clarification,
all
the
area
that
they
shaded
in
blue
is
the
existing
driveway.
The
areas
in
yellow
which
are
along
here
and
up
here,
is
where
they're
proposing
to
widen
it.
The
variance
is
really
only
affected
along
the
property
line.
So
it's
these
two
pieces
here
and
they're
looking
to
go.
I
believe
four
feet
out
on
either
side.
F
We're
looking
at
some
considerations
for
the
land
development
code,
as
well
as
the
context
of
the
area.
This
property
does
meet
the
minimum
lot
area,
width
and
depth
requirements
for
the
r-70
district.
So
it
is
a
conforming
lot
of
record.
F
The
existing
home
also
meets
and
exceeds
the
minimum
front
setback
requirement,
which
is
25
feet
when
looking
at
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
specifically
between
banana
street
and
south
spring
boulevard
along
martin
luther
king
jr
boulevard.
There
are
several
properties
that
have
circular
driveways,
similar
to
what's
proposed,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
I've
highlighted
them
in
this
blue
dashed
line
here,
there's
one
two:
three:
four:
five
or
six
along
that
property.
F
When
measuring
those
existing
driveways,
the
average
circular
driveway
widths
along
this
street,
is
approximately
34
and
a
half
feet,
so
it
is
wider
than
what
would
typically
be
allowed
for
any
of
these
properties.
So
the
proposed
37.5
feet
is
more
consistent
with
what's
seen
in
the
area
and
just
for
reference.
The
lot
widths
range
between
70
and
120
feet.
So
this
property
is
one
of
the
narrowest
slots
on
the
street.
F
G
A
So
if
you
want
to
maybe
share
some
information
about
these
changes
that
you're
presenting
this
evening
well,.
G
F
J
When
we
were
here
last
and
discussing
the
access
egress
situation,
the
board's
decision
was
predicated
on
the
fact
that,
yes,
you
are
governed
by
that
intersection,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
a
stop
sign
there
and
because
there's
a
stop
sign
there.
There
really
is
no
reason
to
consider
this
an
issue
because,
obviously
everybody
is
going
to
stop
at
that
stop
sign.
So
mr
swells
went
out
on
his
own
and
took
a
video
of
what
actually
is
occurring
at
that
intersection
on
a
routine
basis,
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
go
from
here.
J
A
G
Okay,
very
well
said
truck
one
hold.
It
part
two
rolled
it,
r-3
rolled
it
car
four
rolled
it
and
boy
their
barrel,
and
now
oh
they're,
getting
it
on.
He
stopped
because
there
was
a
car
there.
So
that's
the
one
out
of
nine
that
stopped.
Oh,
the
next
one
coming
up
he's
gonna
stop!
No!
He
really
rolls
it!
G
G
You
have
any
more
rollers
yep,
so
this
is
a
crazy
they're,
not
stopping,
and
when
I
go
to
back
out
of
my
driveway,
I
have
pictures
here
each.
If
I
may
approach
the
panel
and
hand
you
a
couple
pictures,
please
would
that
be
possible.
Thank.
G
G
G
B
B
B
Okay,
the
video
that
you
showed
the
the
vehicles
slow
down
the
menu
have
stopped
hundred
percent
they
slow
down,
except
for
the
last
one,
the
red
one.
So
it's
it's
making
sense.
When
you're
making
a
left
turn
in
such
a
short
area
going
over
the
hump,
the
bridge
is
not
a
flat
bridge.
You
got
to
go
over
it.
B
G
B
G
B
B
G
G
The
least
amount
is
possible
that
I
can
get
a
variance
to
give
me
four
lousy
feet.
Excuse
the
lousy,
where
I
can
turn
my
truck
and
be
able
to
get
out
by
looking
forward.
Then
I
can
see
him
because
I'll
pull
up
where
my
garage
is
pull
my
truck
and
right
now
I
can't
do
it.
I've
got
boulders
there,
because
if
you
run
your
truck
on
those
rocks,
they
become
a
mud
hazard.
It
looks
like
hell,
it's
just
horrible
and
my
truck
goes
down.
Oh
she's
caramba.
J
Looking
at
it
from
another
standpoint,
what
are
the?
What
are
the
alternatives?
Really
I
mean
he's
limited
to
what
he
can
do.
Can
you
park
in
the
street
that
would
create
a
worse
athlete
illegal
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
regulations
are.
It's
probably
illegal.
So
all
we're
looking
to
do
is
give
him
as
much
as
we
can
without
going
crazy
with
it.
B
J
Think
you
know
from
an
aesthetic
standpoint
what
he's
doing
is
going
to
look
beautiful.
I
don't
think
anybody
would
have
an
objection
in
the
neighborhood
to
it
and
we're
looking
you
know.
Understandably,
the
original
footprint
wasn't
reality
either,
but
we
couldn't
reduce
that
I
mean
it
would
it
would
totally
reduce
its
ability
to
to
navigate
there
and
adding
an
another
four
feet.
B
G
B
G
B
F
So
we
have,
we
do
have
site
visibility.
Actually,
if
you
have
a
good
picture
you're
talking
about
here,
yes,
so
there
are
site
visibility,
triangle
requirements
in
our
code
and
an
intersection
it
basically
intersections
it
basically
measures
a
distance
of
30
feet
in
either
direction
to
create
a
triangle.
F
I
can't
speak
to
whether
or
not
those
bushes
fall
within
that
site
visibility
triangle
or
not.
That's
something
that
typically,
if
we
had
information,
we
would
refer
to
code
enforcement.
They
go
out
and
verify
to
see
if
it's
an
issue,
it
may
not
necessarily
be
in
our
measured
site
visibility
triangle,
but
it
still
potentially
could
create
a
visibility
issue,
but
those
are
the
requirements
of
the
code.
He.
B
B
E
For
does
a
paper
paper
driver
need
to
go
through
the
permitting
process.
Yes,
okay,
do
you
know
if
they
check
site
visibility
and
things
like
that
with
the
driveway
aprons
during
the
site,
visibility
or
during
the
permitting
process?
So.
F
E
Whatever
the
regulations
at
the
time
under
the
permitting
right,
okay,
so
then
my
advice
to
the
board
as
it
always
is
is
safety
is
not
one
of
your
criteria.
You
know,
and
I
know
that
sounds
crass,
and
I
know
that
sounds
inhuman,
but
it's
it's
not
one
of
your
criteria.
I
make
a
point
on
that.
B
E
E
The
bushes
are
not
part
of
the
application.
Safety
is
not
is
not
part
of
your
criteria.
You
know
that
that's
a
different
issue,
as
as
the
madam
chair
said
before
that's
a
different
issue
for
a
different
board.
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
a
problem,
I'm
not
saying
that
it's
not
something
that
needs
to
be
considered.
That
needs
to
be
handled.
I'm
just
saying
that
that's
not
the
purview
of
this
board
for
this
type
of
application.
A
And
with
that
miss
keene,
would
you
mind
forwarding
or
reversing
to
the
slide
that
has
our
criteria?
A
That
was
part
of
your
presentation
to
make
sure
we
are
clear
on
these
things,
and
I
do
appreciate
the
clarification
from
council
to
where
it
is
unfortunate,
understand
not
trying
to
sound
crass
of
safety,
not
being
part
of
the
criteria,
and
it
is
a
an
interesting
intersection,
because
it's
not
a
true
traditional
90-degree
four-way
stop
intersection.
There
is
that
that
curvature,
which
is
of
your
neighbor's
property,
where
it.
G
A
Leans
into
it,
so
obviously
we
don't
have
anyone
else
here
for
a
public
comment
just
to
double
check.
We
haven't
had
any
communication
from
email
or
phone
calls
or
letters.
D
A
This
is
the
driveway
at
325,
martin
luther
king.
A
A
I
would
say
that
application
has
already
been
addressed
and
spoken,
but
if
you
would
like
to
stick
around
a
bit
and
maybe
address
any
questions
or
concerns
with
city
staff,
we
can
see
what
we
can
do
to
assess.
Thank
you.
Sorry,
sir.
Where
were
we.
D
Well,
yeah,
I
sort
of
forgot
myself
so.
D
Yes,
so
again
it,
it
seems
to
me
that,
and
let
me
just
read
it
off
of
there,
because
this
has
got
much
more.
D
The
need
for
the
requested
variance
arises
out
of
the
physics
of
the
physical
surrounding
shape,
topographical
conditions
and
physical
or
environmental
conditions
that
are
unique
to
the
specific
property
involved
and
do
not
apply
generally
to
properly
locate
in
the
same
district.
That's
absolutely
met,
I
mean
that's
it's
true.
D
It
happens
to
be
the
the
narrowest
property
on
that
in
that
area
correct
and
since
the
driveway
is
governed
by
how
wide
the
property
is
already
he's,
one
he's
a
leg
down
right,
so
number,
two,
the
conditions
or
special
circumstances
peculiar
to
the
property
have
not
been
self-created
or
have
resulted
from
an
action
by
the
applicant
or
with
prior
knowledge
or
approval
of
the
applicant.
Again,
that's
met
because
you
know
he
didn't
do
that.
D
D
Literal
enforcement
of
the
requirements
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
comp
plan
or
comprehensive
land
development
code
would
have
the
effect
of
denying
the
applicant
or
reasonable
use
of
the
property
or
legally
conforming
buildings
or
other
structures,
and
the
requested
variance
is
the
minimum
variance
that
would
make
possible
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property.
Again
it
is
it's
minimal,
so
that's
met
it's
very,
very
little
that
he's
asking
for
granting
the
variants
will
not
confer
any
special
privilege.
D
Well,
we
already
know
that,
because
everybody
in
the
area
has
the
stone,
pavers
and
the
circular
driveway
all
around,
so
that
is
absolutely
met
and
he
will
be
improving
what's
already
existing.
It's
not
like
people
are
going
to
be
upset
about
this.
I
can't
imagine
anybody
in
the
city
being
upset
about
this.
Granting
the
variance
will
not
substantially
diminish
property
values.
D
A
Miss
simon,
mr
boris,
any
other
comments
are
we
still
in
the
public
hearing
portion?
I
believe
so.
So,
since
you
are
the
public,
we
can
close
that
public
hearing
comment.
You
will
have
an
opportunity,
for
you,
know
a
rebuttal
or
closing
comments,
but
now
we
will
go
if
the
staff
has
any
rebuttal
or
closing
comments.
Ms
keane.
A
So
before
we
look
for
a
motion,
gentlemen,
or
do
you
have
any
further
comments
or
statements
that
you
would
like
to
leave
us
with.
A
So
if
we
may
have
a
motion
motion.
G
G
A
G
H
G
H
D
G
A
Okay,
so,
let's,
as
we
said
earlier,
go
to
an
adjustment
to
our
agenda,
if
we
can
have,
we
have
approval
of
minutes,
we
have
our
february
23rd.
If
there
is
a
motion
in
a
second
for.
D
A
A
Yes,
all
right,
so
thank
you,
so
our
I
don't
believe
if
we
wanted
to
go
to
any
staff
comments
for
our
meeting
tonight,
because
we
were
going
to
wrap
up
the
meeting,
adjourn
okay
and
if
I
may
say,
if
we
could
maybe
take
like
a
five
minute
personal
break
in
between
a
journey
of
this
minute
meeting
and
then
going
into
our
workshop.
A
I
have
no
staff
comments.
Okay.
Well,
thank
you.
Any
board
comments,
seeing
none
okay!
So
let's
adjourn
our
meeting
at
7
37
and
let's
reconvene
in
about
five
minutes
for
us
to
go
through
our
workshop
activities.
Yeah!
Yes,
because
what
we're
doing
is
we're
going
to
adjourn
this
meeting,
take
a
personal
break.
We
can
talk
to
our
guest
right
because
the
workshop.
F
Okay,
so
in
the
interest
of
time
we
have
a
couple
options
for
the
board
to
consider.
Well,
first
of
all,
I
think
you
all
are
aware
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
updating
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
This
is
a
plan
that
basically
touches
every
facet
of
the
the
community
in
terms
of
how
it's
developed
and
grows
in
the
future,
and
I
think
a
few
of
you
attended
a
workshop,
I
believe
was
back
in
february.
F
Basically
as
an
introductory
to
the
project,
and
we
told
you
we'd
be
coming
back
to
you,
we
are
here
now
coming
back
to
you
for
some
actual
input
we
have
put
together
with
our
consultant
team.
Three
different
exercises
for
you
to
complete.
These
are
actually
the
same
exercises
that
you
can
that
the
general
public
can
complete
as
well.
F
But
this
is
you,
you
know
completing
it
as
your
perspective
from
a
board
of
adjustment
member
we're
doing
this
or
attempting
to
do
this
with
all
of
our
appointed
boards,
so
we're
trying
to
get
all
that
feedback
by
a
certain
period
of
time
to
influence
the
update
to
the
plan.
F
C
F
Of
the
exercises
that
we're
doing
what
I
would
potentially
suggest
and
it's
up
to
the
board
of
what
you
want
to
do
is
we
can
you
can
look
through
it?
I
know
so.
You've
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
it.
Some
have
not
and
ask
any
questions,
but
I
can
walk
through
each
of
the
exercises.
So
you
know
what
you're
supposed
to
do.
F
F
So
we
would
prefer
to
have
it
by
as
soon
as
possible,
but
if
you
can
get
it
to
us,
we
can
collect
it
at
the
next
board
meeting
in
july.
F
A
We
can
before
I
forget,
since
miss
rich
is
absent
and
I
know
she
would
be
keenly.
A
In
participating
make
a
connection
with
her
to
give
her
her
assignment.
F
Yes,
I've
already
I've
already
reached
out.
I
was
going
to
send
her
that
really,
the
only
thing
you
guys
didn't
receive
ahead
of
time
are
the
actual
stickers,
but
I'll,
let
her
know
she
can
come
and
grab
those
from
us.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
excuse
me
exercise.
One
is
your
small
packet.
We
put
cover
sheets
on
here,
for
you
very
important
on
all
of
them.
Please
put
your
name
on
the
packet
so
that
we
know
which
board
you're
associated
with
name
and
board.
F
This
survey
is
really
just
a
typical
survey.
We
call
it
a
general
survey
because
it
really
does
cover
every
topic
that
the
comprehensive
plan
could
potentially
cover
so
probably
your
biggest
resource
or
those
informational
boards.
The
extra
packet
at
the
end
that
we
gave
you
if
you
have
any
questions
and
specific
questions,
we
reference
boards,
there's
letters
at
the
bottom
right
hand
corner
that
you
can
look
at
to
get
some
more
information
to
answer
those
questions.
F
F
What
we
did
is
basically
break
down
the
city
into
five
different
areas:
there's
no
really
rhyme
or
reason
to
it,
just
to
make
it
easier
to
view
it
on
a
map.
So
it's
not
like
it's
dividing
it
into
any
sort
of
particular
context,
and
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
is
to
look
at
different
infill
types.
Infill
is
basically
properties
that
are
interior
to
the
city
that
are
surrounded
by
development
that
are
primed
for
development
and
we're
asking
you
what
would
you
like
to
see
in
these
areas?
So
we
have
two
things
of
stickers.
F
We
have
residential
types
and
commercial
types.
We
wrote
what
they
are
on
the
front
and
back
of
each
seat.
So
you
know
it's
hard
to
see
on
the
pictures,
the
first
or
the
second
page
in
your
packet,
for
this
tells
you
more
details
about
each
of
those
infill
types.
So
you
can
get
ideas
of
what
you
would
like
to
see.
Yes,.
F
Makes
sense
we
were
short
one
we're
putting
these
together,
so
I
will
take
that
back
now,
you're,
not
so
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
is
to
show
which
commercial
and
residential
infill
types
you'd
like
to
see
in
each
of
these
areas,
you're
going
to
put
the
sticker
basically
on
this
is
the
general
location.
You
don't
have
to
be
site
specific
if
you
want
to
get
detailed
and
write
on
the
map
write
whatever
you
want
to
see
on
that
map.
F
A
So,
and
just
to
be
clear
like
if
I'm
here
context,
area
board
e
okay,
if
I'm
like
you
know,
looking
at
commercial,
pop-up,
commercial
and
accessory
commercial,
if
I
would
just
put
zone
one,
I
am
cool
with
having
those
two
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
in
a
specific
spot
and
just
generally
where
it's
just
boom
boom.
F
And
just
so
you're
aware
so
the
first
map
this
one
here
just
shows
the
entire
city.
How
we
broke
it
up.
You
can
actually
put
your
stickers
on.
We
have
each
area
bigger,
so
you
can
put
them
on
those
maps
if
you
put
them
on
the
one
with
the
full
city.
That's
fine,
too
we'll
figure
it
out.
Okay!
So
then.
F
Fun
yeah,
so
you
just
this
is
really
like.
You
said
your
ideal
location
and
use
as
much
or
as
little
of
each
of
the
stickers
that
you
would
like
to
to
do
and
again,
if
you
guys
have
questions
on
this,
when
you're
working
through
it
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
to
staff,
and
we
can
we
can
help
you
guys.
Are
there
any
other
questions
about
exercise
two.
F
And
we
do
recognize
this
is
this
is
a
lot
to
ask
everybody.
So
we
appreciate
your
your
input,
but
it's
very
valued
and
helpful
in
this
process.
Okay,
so
the
last
exercise
we
have
is
exercise
three,
and
this
is
our
transportation
mapping
exercise
so
basically
there's
three
different
maps
and
each
one
tells
or
is
asking
for
information
about
where
you'd
like
to
see
more
walking
connections.
So
sidewalk
connections,
maybe
trails
things
like
that.
F
The
second
map
is
biking
connections
where
you'd
like
to
see
those
and
transit
connections,
so
trolley
bus.
Anything
like
that
how
we
broke
this
up
and
I
pulled
the
informational
boards
and
that
were
related
to
this
packet
and
put
it
in
here
with
you,
so
you
don't
have
to
flip
through
it.
So
the
first
two
are
just
background
information
and
then,
once
you
get
to
the
maps
that
look
like
this
you'll
see
this
one's
walking.
What
we're
asking
you
to
do
is
put
a
number.
F
If
you
say
you,
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more
walking.
Connections
here
put
a
number
one
and,
on
the
back
of
the
page,
write
number
one
and
say
what
you'd
like
to
see
sidewalk
exactly
and
you
can
be
as
specific
or
as
not
specific
as
you'd
like.
If
you
don't
have
any
specific
comments,
that's
okay,
too,
but
this
is
just
your
kind
of
this
is
like
your
wish
list
is
what
we're
looking
for
you're.
C
F
F
You
can
do
that
or
say
you
want
to
say
one.
I
specifically
want
a
sidewalk
on
include
drive
or
something
like
that.
D
J
D
F
J
D
F
So
correct
me
from
wrong:
pat,
so
include
road,
that's
a
county
road
at
that
location,
and
I
believe
there
is
a
project.
The
county
is
working
on
and
probably
a
great
contact
to
get
more
information
about
that
is
through
caroline
lanford
in
our
office
she's,
our
certified
transportation
planner.
So
you
can
reach
out
to
caroline,
and
I
can
give
you
her
contact
information.
F
She
has
more
information
about
what
they're
looking
to
do
on
that
road.
I'm
not
sure.
F
F
So
it
ain't
gonna
hurt.
What
I
say
is
you
know
they
have
to
do
just
like.
We
have
to
do
different,
like
public
outreach
for
different
projects
and
things
that
we
have
the
county
has
to
do
the
same,
and
I
know
for
this
particular
project.
That's
why
I
suggest
talking
to
caroline
is.
I
believe
that
they
asked
her
for
input
about
like
who
to
reach
out
to
who
to
contact
and
and
she'll
be
able
to
tell
you
I'm
not
sure
where
they
are
in
their
process.
F
Okay,
so
those
are
your
three
exercises
and
if
everyone
is
comfortable
and
promises
not
to
speak
to
your
friends
because
you're
all
really
nice
to
each
other
about
this
exercise,
you
can
take
it
with
you
complete
it
and
then
either
bring
it
back
to
us
before
the
next
meeting.
But
we'll
just
need
it
by
the
next
meeting.
A
D
I
think
it's
fantastic.
I
just
wish
I
had
had
more
time
and.
F
I
don't
at
all
you
guys
are
always
wonderful
well
with
that.
That
was
much
quicker
than
anticipated.
So
that's
great
but,
like
I
said
in
the
meantime,
if
you
guys
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
and
we'll
help
you
through
this,
but
we
do
appreciate
your
time
and
input
not
only
for
our
normal
meetings
but
on
these
projects
too,
because
it
really
does
help
us
beautiful.
That's
all
I
got.