►
From YouTube: Board of Adjustments April 26, 2023
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
If
we
can,
please
call
to
order
this
evening's
Board
of
adjustment
meeting
apologies
for
the
delay
in
our
beginning
here.
If
we
could,
please
have
a
roll
call,
Miss
Turner.
B
A
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Board
of
adjustment
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
C
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
materials
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration.
C
If
any
board
member
has
disclosures
regarding
an
application,
please
make
your
disclosures
on
the
record
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
That
would
include
any
ex
parte
and
voting
conflicts
of
interest.
The
following
is
the
established
procedure,
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
First
city
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application
and
the
applicant
will
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
the
staff
and
any
staff
Witnesses.
C
Then
members
of
the
public
opposing
and
those
in
favor
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
provide
their
evidence
and
testimony
the
applicant,
and
then
the
city
may
present
any
rebuttal,
testimony
and
evidence
and
a
closing
statement
for
summary,
and
then
the
board
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
discussion
and
consideration
of
the
application
at
this
time.
Anybody
who's
going
to
speak
before
the
board
this
evening.
Please
stand
and
receive
the
oath.
C
A
Thank
you.
So
we
have
two
applications
on
our
agenda
this
evening
and
seeing
as
how
we
have
some
people
joining
us,
I
wanted
to
out
of
respect
for
everyone's
time,
see
if
who
we
had
the
most
people
representing
or
hear
of
interest
for
these
two.
So
if
we
needed
to
put
one
application
before
the
other,
we
could
be
respectful
of
your
time.
We
have
an
application
for
property
on
Cedar
Street
and
we
also
have
one
on
Park
Street
attorney.
Is
it
okay?
A
Okay,
so
then
we
can
stick
to
the
order
of
the
agenda
and
let's
continue
with
our
Cedar
Street
I'm,
going
to
call
this
item
to
order.
This
is
application
number
23-11,
which
is
a
variance
to
allow
a
non-conforming
lot
of
record
to
be
built
upon
and
to
reduce
the
required
front
side
and
rear
yard
setbacks
for
the
purpose
of
constructing
a
new
single
family
home.
D
Ali
Keane
senior
planner
with
the
planning
and
zoning
department.
The
subject
property
is
outlined
in
yellow
here
on
the
screen.
It's
on
the
north
side
of
West
Cedar
Street.
This
particular
property
has
split
zoning.
The
eastern
half
is
in
the
RM
residential
multi-family
zoning
District,
whereas
the
Western
half
is
in
the
wd-1
Waterfront
development.
District
surrounding
zoning
is
a
mixture
of
those
two
zoning
districts
to
the
north,
south
and
east
and
then
west
across
Athens
Street,
there's
r60
one
and
two
family
residential
zoning.
D
This
property
was
historically
plotted,
as
three
separate
Lots
shown
here
on
this
map
has
lots
9,
10
and
11..
The
Land
Development
code
states
that
if,
at
any
time,
an
owner
of
a
non-conforming
lot
of
record
owns
adjoining
land,
the
lot
shall
be
combined
to
meet
the
minimum
lot
requirements.
The
applicants
are
here
today
requesting
variance
approval
to
allow
a
non-conforming
lot
of
Records,
specifically
lot
11
here
to
that
is
under
common
ownership,
with
lots,
9
and
10
to
be
a
separate
buildable
lot.
D
First,
looking
at
the
nagaforian
lot
of
record
again,
this
property
was
historically
plotted
as
three
separate
Lots.
The
configuration
is
shown
here.
The
dotted
line
shows
the
interior
lot
lines
of
the
historic
plot.
The
lot
11,
which
is
really
the
lot
in
question
here,
is
again
in
the
wd-1
zoning
District
that
zoning
District
specifically
refers
to
the
r60
zoning
District
standards
for
single-family
uses
because
they're
proposing
to
build
a
single-family
home
on
that
piece
of
property.
We
look
at
the
r60
dimensional
standards
for
the
r60s
Zone.
D
Today,
foreign
looking
at
the
reduced
setback
request
again,
the
wd-1
zoning
District
does
refer
to
the
r60
zoning
dimensional
standards
for
single
family
uses.
The
applicant
has
provided
a
conceptual
site
plan
here
shown
on
the
screen
and
the
reduced
setbacks
are
primarily
in
response
to
the
irregular
shape
of
the
lot
The
r60
Zone
would
require
a
minimum
front
yard
setback
for
the
house
of
20
feet.
A
garage
will
be
25
feet,
a
side,
yard
setback
of
five
feet
and
a
rear
yard
of
20
feet.
D
The
applicants
again
are
proposing
the
house,
which
is
a
little
hard
to
see
here,
but
the
pink
portion
on
the
plan
to
be
a
minimum
of
16
feet
back
and
that
primarily
affects
the
Eastern
corner
of
the
house.
The
Western
Corner
would
be
set
back
approximately
24
feet
and
then
for
an
open
front.
Porch,
which
is
the
Blue
Area
shown
here,
would
have
a
minimum
front
setback
from
this
Eastern
corner
of
six
feet,
whereas
10
feet
would
be
required.
D
One
thing
to
note
about
the
porch
and
the
house
itself:
this
property
is
located
within
a
flood
plain.
The
FEMA
requirements
would
require
the
structure
to
be
elevated
the
living
portion,
so
this
would
likely
be
a
structure
that
has
parked
under
so,
even
though
the
structure
is
closer
and
the
front
porch
is
closer,
it
still
allowed
vehicles
to
park
under
the
structure
to
be
outside
the
right-of-way.
D
Next
they
are
requesting
a
reduced
West,
Side
property
setback,
reduction
of
four
feet
on
this
side
of
the
property,
where
they'd
be
required
five
feet
again.
One
thing
to
note
about
the
site
plan
is:
it
does
show
that
they
have
a
nine
foot
setback
from
the
other
side.
D
This
is
a
photo
of
the
property
provided
by
the
applicant.
You
can
see
the
existing
structure
on
Lots,
9
and
10
here
and
then
the
vacant
lot,
where
the
development
is
proposed
when
zooming
out
and
looking
at
this
area.
This
is
an
older
section
of
Tarpon
Springs
they're.
Most
of
the
Lots
were
plaited
predating
the
first
Lane
development
code
and
zoning
regulations
going
in
place
and
the
homes
in
this
area
were
also
constructed
in
with
various
construction
dates
as
early
as
1920
and
as
late
as
last
year.
D
So
there's
a
great
variety
within
this
particular
area.
On
top
of
that,
the
street
grid
is
really
an
irregular
shape
because
of
that
it
results
in
a
lot
of
these
Lots
being
irregular
shapes
and
sizes,
which
really
greatly
has
a
vast
I
guess:
variety
of
setbacks
for
structures
throughout
the
area.
The
other
issue,
with
some
of
the
lot
dimensions
and
shapes,
is
that
it
really
does
make
it
challenging
to,
in
some
cases,
meet
the
current
zoning
requirements
for
setbacks
because
of
those
shapes
and
the
larger
setbacks
that
we
have
in
place
today.
D
A
few
considerations
with
this
application-
the
wd-1
zoning
District
as
I
stated
for
single
family,
refers
to
a
different
Sony
district
for
standards.
If
this
property
were
developed
with
any
of
the
other
uses
that
are
allowed
within
the
wd-1
district,
there
is
a
different
setback
requirement
and
those
are
listed
here.
The
front
setback
there's
no
minimum,
so
they
could
theoretically
build
at
the
property
line.
There's
a
maximum
setback
of
15
feet,
so
the
structure
would
have
to
at
least
be
within
the
first
15
feet
of
the
property.
D
The
west
side,
because
it's
adjacent
to
wd1
zoning
would
have
a
zero
foot
setback
the
east
side,
because
it's
adjacent
to
RM
zoning
would
have
a
10
foot,
minimum
setback
and
then
the
rear,
again
adjacent,
so
RM
zoning
would
require
a
25
foot
setback.
So
again,
those
are
the
setback
requirements
for
this
District
if
they
are
constructing
something
other
than
single
family.
D
Another
consideration
with
the
wd-1
zoning
is
single.
Family
dwellings
is
actually
a
conditional
use
in
that
zoning
District.
So
that
would
require
the
applicant
upon
approval
of
the
experience
request
to
go
through
another
public
hearing
process
to
receive
conditional
use
approval
to
build
a
single-family
home
in
that
zoning,
District
and
then.
Lastly,
section
38
of
our
code
provides
various
yard
encroachments,
which
allows
certain
structures
and
design
elements
of
a
structure
to
encroach
into
required
setbacks.
Some
applicable
standards
in
this
section
for
this
application
are
for
roof
Eaves.
D
D
These
are
your
standards
for
the
non-conforming
lot
of
record
and
your
standards
for
the
setback.
Variances
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
before
that,
I
did
provide
some
additional
materials
before
you
tonight.
The
applicant
did
provide
this
morning,
a
tree
survey
that
they
just
recently
had
done
on
the
property,
which
was
provided
as
well
as
a
zoning
verification
letter
that
they
got
back
in
2017
when
they
were
purchasing
the
property.
D
E
Yeah
toward
the
end
of
your
presentation
and
also
mentioned
number
nine
of
your
report
about
the
wdi
zoning
District,
only
allowing
single-family
duongs
with
conditional
use,
approval
and
I
know
that's
another
group
who
determines
that.
But
can
you
just
help
me
understand
what
other
conditional
use
like
what
that
means
sure.
D
D
Sure
so
so,
just
in
general
conditional
uses.
So
let
me
take
a
step
back.
Every
zoning
district
has
a
list
of
permitted
uses
that
are
allowed
by
right,
so
no
special
approvals
and
they
also
have
a
list
of
conditional
uses,
which
is
a
use
that
might
be
okay,
but
requires
an
additional
level
of
review,
and
that's
where
you
can
take
in
consideration
context
surrounding
area.
That's
what
the
conditional
use
is
really
looking
at
conditional
use.
Applications
are
reviewed
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
D
Trying
to
get
a
yeah,
so
the
wd-1
district
is
really
intended
based
off
the
land.
Development
code
is
to
be
more
of
a
tourist
oriented,
Development
Area,
where
you
know
it
has
more
commercial.
It
allows
for
like
residential
above
ground
floor,
so
it
was
really
looked
at
trying
to
be
kind
of
it's
kind
of
the
city's
first
mixed-use
district,
but
over
time
it's
kind
of
evolved,
but
it
did
allow
for
single
family
because,
as
you
know,
in
this
neighborhood
there's
lots
of
single-family
homes.
So
it
did
allow
that.
F
D
C
C
You
you
are
the
ones
that
are
the
final
board
for
any
variances.
So
as
far
as
your
decision
goes,
your
decision
as
to
whether
to
Grant
the
variance
or
not
Grant,
the
variance,
is
final.
It
is
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
that
would
review
and
then
make
a
recommendation
on
the
conditional
use,
not
the
variance
you're.
The
final
decision
makers
for
the
variants.
F
C
Typically,
they
will
run
with
the
land
I,
don't
believe
they
I
think
they
expire
pursuant
to
the
code
within
a
year.
If
you
don't
two
years
so
they
have
to
pull
the
building
permit
within
two
years
of
getting
the
actual
approval
from
you
all,
and
is
there
a
different
number
for
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
so.
D
A
And
with
that,
just
you
know
for
clarification
for
everyone's
purpose,
because
what
we
are
hearing
today
we're
hearing
four
things
actually
of
whether
there
can
be
a
a
structure
we'll
even
call
it
that
a
structure
built
on
this
non-conforming
lot
of
record.
That's
one.
The
second
is
the
rear
setback.
The
third
is
the
front
setback,
and
the
fourth
is
the
West
setback.
So
just
for
argument's
sake.
We
are
here
to
make
a
decision.
D
A
D
A
D
I,
don't
believe
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
clarify
that
I
believe
that
they're
looking
to
just
do
one
story
above
parking,
but
as
far
as
zoning
requirements
goes,
we
have
a
maximum
height
allowance.
So
we
would
look
at
that,
regardless.
The
number
of
stories.
C
I
did
have
another
question
because
you
said
that
there
could
be
no
living
space
on
the
bottom
floor,
but
there
could
be
commercial
space
is.
Is
that
what
you
had
said
because
of
the
the
flood
zone
of
this
particular?
So.
D
So
typical
for
yes
for
the
flood
zone,
typically,
you
can't
have
habitable
space
below
the
base
flood
elevation.
That's
why
the
structures
are
propped
up.
There
are
methods
and
I.
That
would
be
something
for
our
floodplain
coordinator
to
clarify,
but
there
are
methods
to
do
some
flood
proofing
for
different
spaces
on
the
ground
story.
G
I
asked
you
before
about
the
proposed
deck
the
park
Vehicles,
underneath
as
the
first
floor.
If
this
building
is
moved
towards
the
Other
Side
by
one
foot,
to
compensate
to
get
to
the
five
feet
that
you
need
I,
won't
that
be
closer
to
the
front.
That
way
the
front
setbacks
have
to
be
further
back
because
of
the
angle.
D
Potentially
it
could
affect
that.
Yes,.
G
It's
16
feet
now
because
it
moves
closer
yeah.
What
will
be
that
the
difference.
D
I
I
wouldn't
know
what
the
difference
would
be
if
you
moved
it
over,
a
foot
I
think
that
they
potentially
have
to
modify
the
the
design.
If
they,
if
the
board
approves
a
minimum,
16
foot
setback
for
the
house,
they
have
to
be
within
that
parameter.
If
they,
if
you
do
not
approve
the
reduced
side
setback,
then
they
potentially
have
to
modify
the
design
just
to
fit
within
those
setbacks.
A
C
H
Okay
name
and
address
please
Thomas
zabbit
122,
West,
Cedar,
Street,
Tarpon,
Springs,
34689.
H
I
wanted
to
just
specify
a
couple
points
that
Ali
had
made
and
just
make
sure
that
they
were,
you
know
clarified.
The
lot,
isn't
a
regular
shape
lot,
as
you
can
tell
it's
a
parallelogram
and
the
setbacks
for
this
lot,
because
it's
a
parallelogram
when
you
put
the
setbacks
on
there,
it
makes
for
a
very
small
building
area,
because
when
you
put
a
rectangle
on
a
parallelogram,
it
makes
it
very
small.
H
So
the
way
it's
configured
right
now
would
be
close
just
a
little
over
a
thousand
square
foot
house
and
that's
not
feasible
to
build
a
house
that
small
and
so
that's
why
we're
asking
for
the
setbacks
we've
actually
on
the
West
Side,
our
neighbor's
side
of
the
house.
We've
actually
are
asking
to
go
from
a
four
foot
to
five
feet
away,
so
we're
moving
away
from
the
oak
tree
in
that
property
by
a
foot
and
also
we're
asking
to
go
back
in
the
property
more
because
of
three
reasons:
one.
H
We
want
to
build
a
house,
that's
large
enough
to
make
it
profitable
or
feasible
to
build
and
two.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
on-street
parking
so
moving
the
house
back
helps
that
we
have
more
off-street
parking.
There
would
be
off
street
parking
anyway,
but
this
would
give
us
more
our
street
parking
if
we
needed
to
have
it
and
the
back
of
the
lot
behind
the
lot.
There's
nothing
built
on
the
back
side
of
that.
How
of
the
lot?
H
The
closest
that
on
the
back
side
of
the
house,
proposed
house
would
be
probably
as
close
as
I
can
tell,
without
measuring
on
other
people's
property
is
probably
going
to
be
about
45
to
50
feet
from
the
nearest
house,
and
the
closest
house
to
the
west
side
of
our
property
is
probably
going
to
be
about
45
to
50
feet
also.
So
it's
quite
a
ways
it's
closest
to
my
residence
that
I
currently
have
that's.
F
H
Closest
house
to
the
proposed
lot
so
and
we
we
I,
we
looked
at
all
this
as
far
as
building
two
houses
on
this
location
back
in
2017,
March
31st,
with
Heather
yearwiller,
who
is
the
director
of
Planning
and
Zoning
at
that
time,
and
she
gave
us
permission
and
answered
all
our
questions
as
far
as
what
we
could
do
and
couldn't
do
on
that
property
because
we
had
purchased
the
property.
We
wanted
to
build
two
buildings
from
the
get-go
before
we
even
purchased
the
property,
and
she
answered
all
our
questions
and
stating
that
we
could.
H
We
could
do
that
and
we
could
have
it
as
a
rental.
We
could
have
it
as
a
residential.
We
could
have
it
as
a
you
know
for
our
own
living.
We
could
build
a
property
on
there
and
sell
it.
So
we
reviewed
all
this
with
her
before
we
purchased
the
property
so
and
we
want
to
be
in
compliance
and
we
want
to
be
good
neighbors.
So
you
know
if
we
need
to
do
an
arborist
to
help
us
out
as
far
as
the
trimming
of
that
tree.
H
H
H
G
G
To
us,
but
on
the
other
hand,
you
said
the
same
thing
for
the
adjacent
lot:
number
12.
adjacent
to
number
12
is
Lot
number
13
right.
H
H
G
H
H
Far
in
it
and
it's
it's
the
one
on
their
property
in
the
corner
of
their
property,
not
my
property,
the
one
that
the
oak
tree
that's
shown
on
that
survey.
That's
on
my
property
is
only
at
eight
inch
oak
tree
and
it's
only
about
14
feet.
Tall.
A
Miss
King,
can
you
Advance
a
couple
slides,
so
we
can
show
the
picture
that
Mr
Boris
was
showing.
A
That
actual
photograph,
it's
a
little
tricky
I'm,
seeing
it
better
on
my
page
here
there
seems
to
be
tucked
under
that
tree,
maybe
like
a
yellow
shed.
That's.
H
Well,
actually,
if
you
look
at
that
at
that,
it
goes
from
the
far
left.
Those
little
bushes
are
on
the
far
left
corner
of
the
picture.
There's
a
telephone
pole
there,
that's
where
the
lot
line
starts
just
to
the
left
of
the
telephone
pole
and
it
goes
at
a
parallelogram.
So
it
goes
back
to
the
right
at
an
angle,
so
the
the
the
I
wish
I
could
point
to
it.
But
yeah
there
we
go
just
to
the
left.
A
little
bit
more
left
left,
left,
left,
left
left
left
left
right
there.
H
A
Of
kind
of
it's
hard
in
this
picture
kind
of
sort
of
in
between
that
shed
and
those
potted
plants
in
the
yard,
just.
H
E
Miss
rich
clarification
from
you
had
said
five
feet
in
the
back,
but
I
thought
the
variance
was
to
allow
the
four.
H
Feet
I'm
sorry
I
might
have
misspoke
it
was.
It
was
on
the
West
Side.
The
west
side
was
right
now
I'm,
a
wd-1
and
I'm
authorized
to
build
four
feet
from
the
lot
line
on
the
West
Side.
Currently,
I
can
do
that
right
now,.
D
H
E
C
That
that's
okay,
because
it's
less
than
what
they
were
actually
if
they
wanted
to
change
it
differently
and
say
they
were
looking
for
three
feet.
Instead,
then
that
would
create
an
issue
but
giving
them
more
space,
and
in
this,
in
this
case,
complying
with
the
actual
required
setback
is
fine.
They
can
withdraw
that
Quest
request
and
you
can
just
proceed
on
the
front
and
the
rear
yeah.
A
A
F
A
H
Yes,
that
it
would
be
if
we
made
the
house
that
long,
but
if
we
get
the
setback
in
the
back
to
be
able
to
go
back,
it
would
be
it
would
move
back
further
away
from
the
street
if
we
didn't
make
the
house
quite
as
long
if,
instead
of
65
I
think
we
have
on
there,
if
we
made
it
60,
it
would
give
us
five
more
feet
on
the
front
of
the
house.
Okay,.
A
Yeah,
because
you
had,
you
were
looking
to
build
a
home
that
was
27
feet
wide
by
65
feet,
deep
right
so
and
that's
where,
whether
you
build
a
10
by
10
shed
or
that
size.
What
we
are
coming
here
today
is
looking
to
Grant
or
not
Grant,
a
variance
of
giving
you
the
maximum
of
the
front
yard
of
16
feet,
whereas
code
calls
for
20.
and
rear
you're
asking
for
10
feet,
whereas
the
requirement
is
20..
So
whatever
you
put
in
that,
like
I
said,
could
be
a
10
by
10
shot.
H
I
understand
yeah,
just
just
for
a
quick
clarification
now
I'm
sure
you
can
see
that
on
there,
the
the
only
Corner
that
would
be
close
to
10
feet
would
be
the
northwest
corner
of
that
property.
The
other
Corner,
because
it's
a
parallelogram,
is
like
24
feet
from
that
from
so
it's
it's
quite
a
ways
away
and
I
know
that
that
construction,
houses
of
arancasia
Street
behind
us
one
block
the
two
big
houses
that
are
there.
H
They
their
houses,
are
nine
feet
from
the
back
set
back,
so
they
are
very,
very
close
to
there
and
there
are
houses
back
there
and
it's
the
whole
length
of
the
house
lot
line.
We
just
have
one
corner
and
there's
nothing
in
that
corner.
No,
there's
no
house,
that's
closer
than
50
feet
from
that
corner
and.
A
That's
where
so,
if
we
had
Miss
Keane
with
your
laser,
we're
talking
that
what
is
that
south
east
corner
of
the
of
the
porch
of
that
front?
Porch!
That's
where
you're
looking
at
that
10
foot
right
that
little
corner
there,
because
the
other
you've
got
about
24
feet
and
then
that
same
similar
idea
on
the
northwest
corner
at
that
top.
H
Okay,
right
yeah:
they
they
in
in
in
in
getting
the
tin
in
the
back.
That
would
make
be
able
us
to
move
the
house
back,
and
it
would
give
more
distance
in
the
front
of
that
porch
than
what
shows
there.
You
know,
but
the
house
probably
I
mean
we
can
make
the
house
60
feet,
you
know
and
that
would
bring
it
five
feet
away
from
the
yes,
the.
G
H
A
A
G
G
H
H
G
Okay,
I
have
a
question.
Yes,
you
mentioned
that
this
Lots
were
plotted
back
in
the
30s
and
40s.
Why
is
that
important?
Since
77,
this
was
a
whole
piece
and
the
laws
changed.
Obviously,
so
why
was
that
important
to
know
why
were
they
plotted?
Does
it
make
a
difference
here.
D
So
so,
aside
from
the
setback,
requests
there's
another
request
for
if
the
non-conforming
law,
because
it's
smaller
than
what
would
be
required
today,
if
it
was
plotted,
is
buildable
and
one
of
the
considerations
is,
you
know,
is
it
legally
plotted?
Does
it
have
an
entire
lot
of
record?
Was
it
plotted
in
violation
of
a
previous
zoning
code,
in
this
case
they're
plotted
prior
to
any
zoning
code
going
in
place
in
the
city,
so
that's
relevant
to
one
of
the
criteria
for
that
review,
then.
D
Well,
it's
already
it's
already
built
upon.
So
yes,
it
is,
but
I
don't
know,
I
believe
that
Lot
12
is.
Let
me
look
at
that.
D
G
A
D
And
just
for
further
clarification
say
that
there
was
not
a
house
on
this
property
and
it
was
under
12
and
13
were
owned
by
the
same
individual.
If
they
didn't
meet
on
their
own.
The
you
know,
zoning
requirements
for
size
with
area.
They
would
be
before
the
board
to
ask
to
build
those
separately.
So
it'd
be
the
same
process,
but
in
this
case
it's
they're
combined
and
it's
already
constructed.
H
A
Oh
and
then-
and
you
can,
if
you
want
to
be
sworn
in
at
the
same
time,
he
was
she
oh.
C
I
I
I
We
were
actually
going
to
speak,
but
then
we
spoke
with
our
neighbors
and
we've
pretty
much
agreed.
Our
main
concern
was
the
oak
tree.
It's
a
Historic
Oak
Tree.
So
that's
the
main
concern
that
we
have
and
it
appears
that
they're
going
to
be
working
with
us.
We
did
have
an
arborist
report
that
I
believe
all
of
you
received
from
Jon
Snow
he's
a
master
board
certified
Arborist
and
he
did
say
that
it
was
12
feet.
I
I
A
Okay,
no,
we
did
see
your
report
and
your
and
your
letter
with
the
the
arborist
that
you
had
commissioned
for
that
and
providing
looks
like
some
valuable
information
for
you
as
a
neighbor
and
adjoining
property
owner
so
and
and
in
hearing
the
staff
report
and
in
hearing
the
applicants
report.
I
had
your
report
in
the
back
of
my
mind
and
I
was
sounds
like
we
all
were
doing
the
same
thing.
Putting
those
pieces
together
saying
it
sounds
like
this
could
be
worked
out
right.
I
The
five
feet
will
help
and
they're
willing
to
not
necessarily
follow
the
property
line,
because
we
will
need
it's
not
really
the
the
canopy
that
you
worry
about.
It's
the
root
system
right,
that's
the
most
serious
issue.
So
that's
the
thing
that
we're
mainly
concerned
about
you
know
in
in
that
report.
They'd
mentioned
getting
like
a
tree
preservation
plan,
and
that
might
be
something
that
we
can
look
at
doing
too.
A
But
as
I'm
certain
the
applicant
can
tell
you
I,
don't
know
when
you
may
have
constructed
your
home
or
purchased
it.
This
is
the
first
of
many
many
steps
that
your
neighbors
are
going
to
be
taking
to
have
this
project
come
to
fruition.
So
you
know
which
you
know.
Miss
Keane
is
a
very
you
know,
knowledgeable
source
of
information.
You
know
there's
Planning
and
Zoning.
There's
well,
not
in
this
case
there's
no
Heritage
preservation,
but
then
you
know
the
arborist
lots
and
lots
of
people
put
their
hands
in
it.
A
A
I
J
First,
do
I
have
a
limitation
on
minutes?
Yes,.
I
A
J
Yes,
Tina
book
of
Alice
115
Athens
Street,
two
blocks
down
from
the
site
I'm
going
to
set
a
context
in
2014,
the
Greektown
historic
district
was
listed
in
the
National
register
of
historic
places,
bounded
by
the
Anclote
River
on
the
North
Tarpon
Avenue
and
Spring
Bayou
on
the
South
Hibiscus
and
Pinellas
on
the
East,
Roosevelt
and
Grand
to
Spring
Bayou
on
the
west.
This
traditional
cultural
landscape
encompasses
residents
working
Waterfront
and
businesses,
and
also
everything
that
was
on
your
agenda
today.
J
The
national
register
nomination,
detailed
District
residential
architectural
Styles,
briefly
dwellings
reflect
common
Florida,
vernacular,
Cottage
and
house
forms
especially
frame
vernacular
in
Greektown.
These
are
often
one
or
two
stories
with
steeply
sloped,
Gable
and
hip
roofs
and
exterior
wood
drop.
Siding
many
display
Bungalow
influences.
Another
common
house
type
is
the
irregularly
masked
cross-planned
Cottage,
but
the
house
already
built
by
the
applicants,
does
not
conform
with
District
Architectural
Traditions
in
style
or
scale,
and
we
must
assume
the
proposed
building
will
be
similar.
J
Now,
a
variance
to
build
an
unusually
large
house
by
local
Norms
would
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
Integrity
of
the
district
section
106
of
the
National
Historic
preservation
act
says
that
an
adverse
effect
can
include
the
introduction
of
incompatible
visual
elements,
and
this
pertains
to
the
scale
and
the
style
of
the
proposed
building.
The
applicants
described
a
two-story
house
with
a
65
foot
by
27
foot
footprint,
plus
10
by
27
foot
open
front
covered
porch
over
the
driveway.
J
The
first
floor
was
to
include
a
double
garage
and
elevator,
a
small
living
kitchen
area
with
a
bath,
essentially
a
studio
apartment.
The
second
floor
has
has
two
bedrooms:
two
baths
and
a
kitchen
living
area.
So
each
floor
has
1755
square
feet
two
times
that
is
over
3
500
square
feet,
which
is
enormous
for
Greektown,
in
which
houses
average
in
the
low
2000
square
feet.
J
The
applicants
claim
that
the
40
by
100
foot
lot
makes
building
neither
cost
effective
nor
feasible,
not
true.
They
are
building
an
enormous
house
for
the
district.
My
lot
down
the
street
is
similar,
also
a
parallelogram,
and
that
is
not
unusual
in
the
district.
It's
common
and
in
my
1100
square
foot
house
before
I
lived
there,
the
San,
Garis
family
raised
three
children.
J
The
applicants
worry
about
not
making
enough
money,
but
all
area
houses
have
risen
sharply
in
value
with
significant
Market
interest.
In
smaller
homes
they
argue
their
plans
have
no
adverse
effect,
as
we
have
seen
not
true
to
the
district
Style.
J
The
city
is
now
beginning
the
Greektown
historic
district
Vision
plan,
which
will
include
guidelines
for
district
development
and
renovation.
The
wise
course
of
action
would
be
to
defer
such
projects
or
variances
so
that
they
will
be
in
compliance
with
the
new
ordinances
which
we
expect
to
be
in
the
fall
and
I
want
to
quote
what
someone
said
about
the
Division
Street
Properties.
But
it's
true
in
this
instance.
What
Greektown
needs
is
small,
affordable,
Bungalows
that
fit
comfortably
on
their
lots
that
average
families
can
afford
to
buy
live
in,
raise
their
children.
J
C
So
I
am
going
to
stop
you
I
reviewed
the
rules
of
procedure
and
there
is
actually
not
a
time
limit
in
the
rules
of
procedure
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
is
not
a
mechanism
for
her
to
give
time
to
another
person.
However,
since
I
misspoke,
it
is
up
to
the
board.
If
you
want
to
impose
any
further
time
limit
on
this,
you
may
do
so
by
a
motion
at
this
time.
J
Okay,
so
by
the
nature
of
the
requested
variance
these
proposed
houses-
or
this
proposed
house
will
be
larger
than
many,
if
not
all,
houses
in
the
neighborhood,
if
they
were
not
intended
to
be
exactly
that,
there
would
be
no
need
for
the
requested
variances
because
they
would
fit
within
the
zoned
setbacks.
Please
deny
the
variances
and
consider
deferring
this
until
we
have
guidelines
in
place
for
the
district.
It's
not
that
far
away.
Thank
you,
oh
by
the
way,
I
am
also
representing
the
Greektown
preservation
and
Heritage
Association,
which
is
a
non-profit
profit,
neighborhood
association.
A
C
So
first
I
want
to
tell
you
that
legally,
you
cannot
do
that.
You
can
only
apply
the
law
as
it
exists
today,
and
you
have
to
allow
the
application
to
stand
or
fall
on
the
merits
of
what
has
been
presented
here
for
your
consideration
and
it
has
to
be
under
the
current
existing
code.
There's
you
cannot
deny
it
just
to
have
some
future
prospective
legislation
apply
to
it.
C
E
D
That's
correct
this:
this
property
is
not
within
the
local
or
National
Historic
District
properties,
within
that
those
districts
go
before
the
Heritage
preservation
board.
This
property
is
within
the
Cultural
District
of
Greek
Town.
However,
that
doesn't
have
any
sort
of
review
process
board.
There
are
no
set
guidelines
within
that.
It's
a
recognized
cultural
area
and.
E
Also,
as
a
follow-up,
I
certainly
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
I
can't
pronounce
your
name
I'm,
sorry,
but
she's,
a
gift
to
this
town
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
sharing
your
comments
with
us,
the
Bungalows
that
she
mentioned.
It's
my
understanding
and
I
used
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
was
all
Bungalows,
but
it's
my
understanding
due
to
the
new
flood
situation
that
no
new
homes
are
able
to
be
built
in
Bungalow
style
in
that
area.
Is
that
correct,
Ellie.
D
It
really
depends
it's.
Basically,
the
requirement
is
basically
habitable.
Space
needs
to
be
built.
One
foot
above
the
base,
flood
elevation
so
depending
on
what
the
elevation
of
the
property
is,
what
the
base
out
elevation
number
is
you
had
to
build
one
foot
above
that
in
some
cases,
maybe
you
don't
have
to
elevate
super
high
in
some
cases.
K
D
D
D
Right
we
based
off
of
the
FEMA
flood
maps,
but
we
have
the
requirement
to
build
one
foot
above
that
base
foot
elevation
determined
by
FEMA
and
that's
all
reviewed
during
the
the
building
permit
stage.
So.
C
Actually
has
to
be
in
in
the
tarpon
code
in
order
for
them
to
enforce
it,
and
the
way
that
it
works
is
similar
to
zoning
flood
maps,
give
sort
of
what
I'll
call
just
for
a
comparison,
a
flood
zoning
right.
You
know
where
you
have
the
different
flood
zones
and
it's
those
flood
zones
that
determine
how
high
up
you
have
to
build.
You
know
in
some
communities
they
have
standards
that
are
as
high
as
10
foot
above
BFE.
So
one
foot
above
BFE
really
is
not
that
significant.
A
Okay,
And
in
regards
to
what
was
presented-
and
you
know,
echoing
Miss
Rich's
sentiment-
what
we
are
looking
at
today
here
again,
is
these
setbacks?
It's
not
necessarily
the
exact
size
of
the
structure.
It
is
what
can
and
cannot
be
as
far
as
a
structure
going
to
how
far
to
the
property
lines
the
visual
look
of
it,
the
architectural
styles.
That
is
something
that
would
be
through
the
the
building
permitting
stage
that
Planning
and
Zoning
is
probably
part
of
that
as
well
am
I
I.
D
A
Right
because,
if
it
was
which
is
within
the
zoning,
it
could
very
well
even
have
a
zero
setback
on
the
west,
which
we
are
staying
with
the
single
family,
which
does
have
tighter
more
restrictive
setback
requirements.
G
H
G
G
G
A
Yes,
we
are
talking
about
the
setbacks,
but
we
can't
say
it
is
the
setbacks
which
he
is
going
to
have
to
comply
and
build
something
within
those
setbacks,
whether
it's
a
as
we
said
it
right
now.
He
has
it
at
65
and
he
said:
I'll
go
to
60.,
he
said
27
and
that
might
have
to
go
to
25
or
adjusting
your
staircase.
C
D
L
D
It
states
that
so
in
this
case,
actually
the
encroachment
it
allows
you
to
extend
four
feet
into
a
required
yard,
but
you
can't
be
any
closer
than
five
feet.
So
in
this
case
the
minimum
setback
is
five
feet.
So
that's
the
the
hard
line
for
a
staircase
just
to
to
Echo
what
the
chair
mentioned
is
whatever
the
board.
If
they
were
to
approve
any
reduced
setbacks.
That,
basically,
is
the
footprint
that
they
have
to
work
with
to
finalize
their
plans.
They
can,
they
will
have
to
make
modifications
to
fit
within
those
setbacks.
D
If
you
approve
the
reduced
front
setback
of
16
feet,
they
got
rid
of
the
five
they'd
have
to
have
five
feet
on
each
side.
If
you
approve
the
10
foot
in
the
back,
they
would
that's
their
building
envelopes.
They
have
to
fit
within
that.
That
includes
staircases
everything
so,
yes,
those
are
conceptual
plans
that
you're
seeing
here
to
show
generally
how
it
be
laid
out,
but
once
they
have
the
final
numbers
and
setbacks,
then
they
will
go
back
and
refine
that
plan.
A
So
do
we
have
if
we
don't
have
any
other
public
comment,
we'd
like
to
close
public
comment
at
this
time?
Does
the
board
have
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
or
for
the
city?
A
Okay,
seeing
none
if
we
wanted
to
either
have
a
motion
and
a
roll
call
or
if
we
want
to
have
any
board
discussion
I
would
I
would
like
to
if
we
could
make
sure
that
we're
clarifying
that
we
are
looking
at
three
different
things.
So
when
we
are
doing
motions,
if
we
could
have
three
different
motions,
where
do
I
find
my
note
where
we
are
having
the
first
for
the
non-conforming
lot
of
record?
If
we
wanted
to
have
board
discussion
on
that
before,
we
have
a
call
for
a
motion.
F
A
Yes,
okay.
Our
next
point
was
in
the
request
for
a
variance
for
the
rear
yard
setback
to
be
10
feet,
whereas
the
requirement
code
is
currently
20
feet,
so
we're
talking
the
rear
yard
setback
of
10
feet.
Is
there
a
motion
for
this.
K
A
F
G
A
A
You
would
like
to
restate
the
your
motion.
A
Is
because
remember,
as
Miss
Keane
said,
it's
just
a
proposed:
it's
not
a
finalized
floor
plan
to
where
he
can
and
it
does
sound
like
he
likely
will
make
adjustments
to
his
actual
building
plan.
G
A
So
we
do
have
a
motion
and
a
second
for
a
denial
of
the
front
yard
setback
at
16
feet.
A
To
withdraw
the
motion?
Okay,
so
if
we
can
maybe
have
a
motion
regarding
the
16
foot,
fatback
request
for
the
front,
does
anyone
want
to
make
a
motion
on.
F
C
Okay,
so
there
is
one
clarification:
I
think
you
do
need
one
additional
motion
for
consideration.
The
front
setback
actually
had
two
components
to
it.
The
16
feet
was
the
setback
for
the
main
structure,
and
then
there
was
an
open,
overhang
front
porch
that
was
presented.
That
would
actually
be
a
six
foot
setback
on
the
front.
So
if
you
wanted
to
approve
the
open
overhang,
porch
setback
of
six
feet,
that
would
be
now
subject
to
a
separate
motion,
the
16
feet
was
solely
for
the
livable
structure.
F
A
G
A
If
we
could
maybe
Miss
Kane,
if
you
can
provide
some
counsel
regarding
standards
in
the
area
when
it
comes
to
these
open
area,
setbacks
versus
the
actual
structure
of
the
home.
D
Sure
so,
in
the
yard
encroachment
section
of
the
Land
Development
code,
it
states
unenclosed,
porches
May,
extend
10
feet
into
any
required
front
yard,
but
not
closer
than
10
feet
to
the
front
property
line.
It
also
further
clarifies
that
it
can't
has
remained
open.
It
can't
be
enclosed
in
the
future.
D
A
And
then,
looking
at
this
with
the
section
38
.00
yard,
encouragements
that
you
had
presented
to
us
in
the
LDC
considerations,
so
the
proposed
porch
is
an
elevated
deck,
allowing
vehicles
to
park
off
Street
under
the
deck
and
structure
I
mean
I'm
reading
so
elevated
deck
to
park
under
it.
That
sounds
like
a
carport.
D
Well
so
be
connected
to
the
to
the
struct,
so
it's
basically
the
front
deck
to
the
structure
of
the
home
because
the
home
is
going
to
be
the
living
space
is
going
to
be
elevated.
The
garage
space
underneath
so
elevating
the
home
essentially
elevates
that
front
porch.
So
it
allows
a
vehicle
to
go
underneath.
H
G
A
G
B
A
So
you
have
the
setbacks
that
you
know
have
been
discussed
and
will
need
to
then
work
with
Miss
Keane
and
her
team
to
continue
going
through.
The
process
sounds
like
there's
some
other
exciting
changes
happening
in
your
neighborhood
as
well,
which
could
very
well
impact
the
visual
part
of
your
home.
That
is,
as
we
discussed,
not
the
purview
of
this
board,
but
knowing
the
construction
process
as
a
slow
one.
H
Sir
problem,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
the
board.
I
also
want
to
say
that
my
wife
and
I
are
very
happy
to
be
Tarpon
residents,
we're
full
time
at
our
house
that
she
described,
which
a
lot
of
people
stop
and
take
pictures
of
our
house.
So
I
can't
be
all
that
bad
looking,
but
I
do
appreciate
it.
We're.
A
D
This
property
is
located
south
of
where
we're
just
talking
at
the
corner
of
Roosevelt
Boulevard
and
West
Park
Street
again
outlined
here
in
yellow
this
piece
of
property
is
located
in
the
wd-1a
district,
which
is
the
Waterfront
commercial
fishing
development
District.
The
properties
across
the
street
on
Roosevelt
are
also
in
the
wd-1a
district.
The
immediate
property
to
the
north
is
in
the
same
district
looking
to
the
South
is
residential,
multi-family
zoning
and
then
east
and
north
of
the
site
is
r60
one
and
two
family
residential
zoning.
D
The
Land
Development
code
requires
that
the
construction
of
sidewalks
along
a
budding
Street
frontages
are
a
required
improvement
with
any
new
development.
It
further
states
that
a
sidewalk
has
to
be
a
minimum
of
four
feet
in
width.
The
Land
Development
code
does
allow
the
board
of
adjustment
to
have
authority
to
Grant
a
sidewalk
waiver.
D
If
certain
conditions
are
met,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
convert
the
existing
building
on
site,
which
is
a
former
sponge
Warehouse
building
into
a
coffee
shop
and
Cafe
they're,
looking
to
construct
a
new
storage
building
on
the
property,
as
well
as
make
parking
lot
and
Landscaping
improvements.
All
the
proposed
projects
do
trigger
the
requirement
to
install
sidewalks.
They
are
requesting
a
sidewalk
waiver
from
the
board
of
adjustments
to
Grant
relief
from
constructing
the
sidewalks
along
the
Roosevelt
Boulevard
Street
Frontage.
D
This
is
a
look
at
the
proposed
site
plan
provided
by
the
applicant.
The
building
shaded
in
the
blue
here
is
the
historic
spongehouse
building
they're
looking
to
do
a
conversion
to
a
cafe
space.
The
orange
structure
up
here
is
the
proposed
storage
building,
location
and
again
they're
doing
some
parking
lot
and
Landscaping
improvements
on
the
property
as
well.
D
The
board
has
authority
to
Grant
sidewalk
waivers
if
one
or
more
of
the
conditions
listed
here
on
the
screen
are
met,
those
conditions
are
one.
The
existing
right-of-way
is
of
insufficient
width
to
allow
the
installation
of
a
sidewalk
to
the
existing
right-of-way
is
unimproved
or
not
paved
three,
where
strict
application
of
the
requirement
would
be
technically
impractical
in
terms
of
engineering
design
due
to
existing
conditions
related
to
topography
or
the
environment,
and
the
fourth
statement
says
that
the
board
cannot
consider
the
non-presence
of
other
sidewalks
in
the
neighborhood
as
a
justification
for
the
waiver.
D
Again.
Looking
at
the
site
plan,
there
are
within
the
Roosevelt
right-of-way
along
the
property,
seven
existing
Sable
Palm
trees
that
are
of
significant
size.
Those
trees
would
have
to
be
removed
if
a
sidewalk
was
installed
within
the
right-of-way
along
this
Frontage
sable
palms
are
a
protected
tree
within
the
city's
Land
Development
code.
So
that's
one
of
the
considerations
for
not
removing
them
in
order
to
put
a
sidewalk
at
this
location.
D
Zooming
out
and
looking
at
the
neighborhood,
Roosevelt,
Boulevard
and
I've
turned
North
is
facing
this
direction
now
the
subject
property
down
here
there
are
existing
sidewalks
along
the
west
side
of
Roosevelt
Boulevard
and
they
lead
all
the
way
from
Park
Street
up
to
dodecany's
Boulevard
continuously.
There
are
no
sidewalks
I
believe
along
the
entire
east
side
of
Roosevelt
Boulevard.
There
might
be
one
or
two
properties
that
have
a
sidewalk
in
there.
D
These
are
some
images
provided
by
the
applicant
they're.
A
little
difficult
to
see
here,
but
they
were
provided
in
your
packet.
This
is
just
looking
at
some
properties
moving
North
along
Roosevelt,
showing
some
of
those
limitations
that
Public
Works
had
pointed
out
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overview
of
this
entire
project
and
the
required
processes
that
they
have
to
go
through
for
ultimate
approval.
This
property
is
located
within
the
city's
local
historic
district.
D
The
applicant
did
go
to
before
the
Heritage
preservation
board
with
these
plans
in
March
of
this
year,
and
they
did
receive
approval
with
some
conditions,
so
they
have
checked
that
box,
but
then
their
next
step
will
be
to
go
through
conditional
use
approval
to
actually
utilize
the
existing
structure
as
a
coffee
shop.
That's
a
conditional
use
in
that
zoning
District,
as
well
as
to
get
approval
of
the
site
plan.
Those
have
been
submitted
to
the
planning
department,
but
they
have
not
been
scheduled
for
public
hearing
dates.
D
Those
are
to
be
determined
and
public
notice
will
be
provided
for
that
application
and
that's
where
they'll
specifically
talk
about
the
use
of
a
coffee
shop
as
well
as
the
overall
site
plan
layout.
So
this
is
just
a
request
before
you
to
Grant
the
waiver
for
a
sidewalk
relief
and
with
that
these
are
your
sidewalk
waiver
conditions.
In
addition
to
the
four
that
I
mentioned
previously
and
I'm
happy
to
answer,
questions.
L
I
can
say:
403
Roosevelt,
Boulevard,
Tarpon
Springs
directly
across
the
street,
from
that
property.
So.
A
A
Okay,
if
I
may
I
just
wanted
to
just
clarify
a
few
points
with
Miss
Keane.
You
had
mentioned
this
one
area.
If
you
could
about
the
the
sable
palms,
we
have
so
seven
sable
palms.
So
if
we
were
to
deny
this
application
and
require
the
compliance
with
the
existing
code
to
require
this
sidewalk,
those
Seven
Palms
would
have
to
go,
am
I.
Reading
this
correctly,
most.
A
And
that's
where
I
think
it's
the
one
slide
after
this,
if
you
could,
which
had
the
Public
Works
review,
I,
really
appreciate
you
providing
this
we're,
there's
insufficient
right-of-way,
there's
utility
infrastructure,
that's
happening
there.
We,
of
course
we
have
the
buildings.
We've
talked
about
the
the
trees
and
we
do
have
sidewalk.
That
goes
all
the
way
to
the
docks
from
here.
So
pedestrians
do
have
safe
and
connected
access.
A
A
F
G
A
B
Regarding
the
October
minutes
that
were
referred
to
this
meeting,
it
I
have
the
the
form
it's
form.
8B
I,
make
it
a
practice
not
to
include
it
in
the
packets
because
it
does
have
the
address,
which
is
public
record,
but
I
normally
just
don't
put
that
kind
of
stuff
in
the
packet.
So
it
is
included
here.
If
anybody
would
like
to
view
it
and
I
always
have
them
on
record,
but
and
that's
why
it
wasn't
here
and
I,
wasn't
here
to
explain
that
so,
okay,
if
you'd
like
to
look
at
it.
A
I
have
no
worries
about
that.
Anyone
any
concerns,
I
appreciate
your
thoroughness
on
it.
So
we
have
the
October.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
October,
22nd,
26,
20,
22
minutes.
E
A
G
G
F
G
A
All
right
so
moving
on.
Do
we
have
any
staff
comments
for
us
this
evening,
I.
D
Just
have
one
question,
so
you
guys
are
usually
pretty
pretty
great
about
asking
us
for
paper
copies
in
advance
of
the
meeting,
but
I
always
tend
to
bring
or
Kim
and
I
print
some
at
the
meeting.
So
you
have
it
we're
trying
to
be
a
little
mindful
of
our
paper
consumption
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
know.
D
A
Stopped
by
in
the
Years,
however,
many
that
I've
sat
on
this
board.
I've
asked
for
a
paper
copy
like
three
times
and
I
happen
to
be
in
a
frenzy
this
morning
and
thought
I'm
gonna
swing
by,
say,
Hall
and
pick
it
up
and
I
just
put
a
which
I
realized
I
was
I
felt
horrible.
It's
like
oh,
my
gosh
I
shouldn't
have
done
that
to
Ally
no.
D
A
I
I
think
that
is
very
respectful
of
our
staff
and
financial
and
environmental
resources
for
us
to
they
only
to
be
printed
upon.
Advance
requests
any
other
thoughts.
E
Well,
I
always
get
a
advanced
request
because
I
don't
have
the
printing
capabilities
and
I
like
to
look
at
all.
You
know
because
I'm
on
a
county
computer
too
I
don't
like
to
use
County
computer
time
to
look
at
the
city
documents,
but
I
never
need
one
brought
to
the
meeting,
because
I
always
bring
the
paper
copy
to
the
meeting.
So
it
would
just
be
one
copy
for
me.
Okay,.
D
And
I
know
Mr
Boris.
You
usually
pick
yours
up
as
well
in
advance,
so
I'm
happy
to
print
them.
I
know
I'll
print
the
two,
but
if
other
board
members
when
I
send
them,
we
send
the
packet
out.
If
you
just,
let
me
know
we'll
try
to
include
the
email
that
you
would
like
a
printed
copy,
whether
you
pick
it
up
in
advance
or
I.
Have
it
here.
You.
A
A
Thanks
I
appreciate
that
any
board
comments.
F
D
That
so
I
don't
anticipate
there
being
any
changes
with
that
I
know
there
are
some
neighboring
property
owners
that
are
interested
in
the
application.
So
I
don't
know
if
there'll
be
additional
materials
provided
we'll
include
it
in
the
next
packet.
So
I
don't
anticipate
changes
to
the
application,
but
there
may
be
some
additional
information.
You
never
know.