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A
Gentlemen,
welcome,
and
this
is
the
August
23rd
Board
of
adjustment
for
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I
want
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
6,
30,
P.M
and
now
I'd
like
to
ask
Miss
Tillerson.
If
she
would
call
roll.
C
C
A
D
You,
madam
chair
The,
Madam
the
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Board
of
adjustment
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections.
D
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
meets
the
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
approve
the
application.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
does
not
meet
the
criteria
contained
in
the
code,
then
the
board
is
required
to
deny
the
application
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
D
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration,
based
on
the
city's
code
of
ordinances,
any
board
members
who
have
disclosures,
such
as
ex
parte
Communications
or
conflicts
of
interest.
Please
make
your
disclosures
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
to
which
they
pertain.
The
following
is
the
established
procedure
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
First
city
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application.
The
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
the
city
staff
and
any
City
Witnesses.
D
The
applicant
will
then
have
the
opportunity
to
present
his
or
her
Witnesses
and
evidence.
The
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants.
Witnesses
members
of
the
public
opposing
the
application
and
members
of
the
public
in
support
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
present
their
testimony
and
evidence,
and
then
the
applicant
and
the
city
may
present
any
rebuttal
testimony
and
evidence
and
a
closing
statement
for
submarine.
Then
the
board
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
consideration
at
this
time.
Anyone
who's
going
to
speak
at
this
hearing.
D
A
This
is
a
request
to
waive
the
requirement
to
construct
a
sidewalk
along
the
abutting,
budding
improved,
Street
location,
being
130,
rainville,
Road
and
just
note.
This
is
one
of
those
cases
sidewalk
that
does
have
some
different
criteria
than
we
normally
see
for
many
of
our
other
applications.
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions
at
any
time
for
staff
or
attorney
related
to
these,
please
forward
them
at
the
appropriate
time.
E
Ali
Keane
senior
planner
with
the
planning
and
zoning
department.
The
subject
property
is
located
here,
outlined
in
yellow
it's
at
rainville
Road
and
North
Pinellas
Avenue.
The
property
is
zoned
IR,
which
is
industrial
restricted.
There
is
some
residential
office.
Zoning
to
the
South
further
to
the
west
of
the
site
is
a
mixture
of
public
semi-public,
as
well
as
industrial
zoning
districts,
and
this
property
also
has
some
unincorporated
properties
surrounding
it,
which
is
anything
that
isn't
shaded
in
color
and
that's
a
mixture
of
res
or
industrial
uses,
as
well
as
residential
uses.
E
The
Land
Development
code
states
that
the
construction
of
sidewalks
along
abutting
Street
frontages,
are
a
required
improvement
with
any
new
development.
The
code
also
allows
applicants
to
request
a
sidewalk
waiver
and
it
gives
the
board
of
adjustment
the
authority
to
grant
that
waiver.
The
applicant
is
in
the
process
of
developing
the
property
as
an
RV
and
boat
storage
facility,
and
at
this
time
they
were
requesting
a
sidewalk
waiver
to
Grant
relief
from
constructing
sidewalks
along
the
rainville
road
Street
Frontage.
E
This
is
a
look
at
the
approved
site
plan
for
the
project.
The
property
outlined
in
yellow
here
and
the
sidewalk
location
shown
in
teal
along
rainville
Road
a
little
bit
of
history
about
the
project.
The
site
plan
was
originally
approved
back
in
July
of
2020
under
resolution
number
2020-42,
the
site
plans
were
prepared
by
a
licensed
professional
engineer,
and
they
did
include
the
required
sidewalk
in
the
site.
Plans.
E
The
sidewalk
or
sidewalk
was
five
feet
in
width,
and
it
did
include
a
boardwalk
segment
that
went
over
some
Wetlands
that
are
on
the
property
and
I'll
show
you
a
closer
up
image
here
in
just
a
minute.
In
August
of
2021,
the
site
work
permit
was
issued
under
permit
number
21-502
to
allow
the
applicant
to
begin
construction
of
the
RV
and
boat
storage
facility.
Those
plans
that
were
approved
also
include
the
sidewalk
in
question.
Today.
E
This
is
zooming
into
the
rainville
road
Frontage.
The
sidewalk
is
shown
entirely
on
the
private
property.
That
is
primarily
due
to
there's
an
existing
drainage
soil
along
rainville
Road.
Here
the
sidewalk
again
includes
a
five
foot
wide
portion
in
blue
here
and
then
the
portion
that
goes
over
the
Wetland
area
and
the
Wetland
mitigation
area
is
shaded.
In
green,
and
that
is
a
boardwalk
segment
design,
the
Land
Development
code
states
that
a
sidewalk
waiver
can
only
be
granted
if
one
or
more
of
the
criteria
shown
here
on
the
screen
are
met.
E
Those
include
the
existing
right-of-way
is
of
insufficient
width.
The
existing
right-of-way
is
unimproved
or
not
paved.
It
states
that
the
it
would
be
technically
impractical
because
of
the
existing
conditions
to
construct
the
sidewalk,
and
the
last
thing
it
states
is
that
the
board
cannot
consider
the
non-presence
of
other
sidewalks
in
the
area
as
a
means
to
Grant
a
waiver.
E
In
this
case,
sap
does
note
that
there
are
limitations
on
the
property
due
to
the
drainage
sale,
as
well
as
the
wetlands
that
make
construction
more
difficult,
so
that
kind
of
touches
on
criteria
one
and
three,
but
we
do
go
back
to
that.
They
did
receive
site
plan
approval
on
those
ultimately
approved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
showing
that
it
there
was
a
feasible
design.
E
E
This
is
a
street
view
image
showing
that
drainage
Swale.
This
is
the
intersection
of
Pinellas
Avenue
Road.
This
is
just
looking
the
other
direction
along
the
property's
frontage,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
touch
on
is
the
context.
This
area
staff
refers
to
it
as
a
north
of
the
Anclote
River.
Currently
there
are
no
sidewalks
anywhere
within
the
media
area.
E
It's
important
to
note
that
as
properties
develop
and
Redevelopment
in
this
area,
sidewalks
are
a
required
Improvement
for
any
project
and
with
a
special
planning
effort
going
into
potentially
into
play.
It
is
likely
that
a
future
sidewalker
sidewalk
Network
sorry
will
exist
in
the
area
in
the
future.
E
F
I
have
a
question
that
might
be
best
answered
by
a
legal
okay.
Can
we
make
simply
make
a
motion
that
we
will
grant
them
the
waiver
if
they
will
pay
into
the
the
sidewalk
fund.
D
That
is
not
what
the
code
provides
for
the
code,
the
way
that
it's
been
presented
unless
I'm
missing
something
the
way
that
the
code
reads
is
that
if
they
meet
that
criteria
they
get
it
regardless
of
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
pay
into
that.
D
D
I
do
have
just
a
couple
quick
questions,
my
standard
ones.
Your
credentials
are
on
file
with
the
city,
correct,
yes,
correct
and
you're
entering
the
city's
file
in
this
matter
for
evidence
for
the
board's
consideration.
Yes,
the
other
question
I
have
is
actually
about
the
drainage
Swale
that
particular
drainage
Swale.
Is
it
just
along
this
particular
property,
or
does
that
drainage,
Swale,
extend
down
rainville
road
across
other
properties.
E
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
aerial
photograph.
I
do
believe.
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
a
picture
of
the
other
side
of
the
road
I
am
not.
The
applicant
may
be
able
to
provide
some
more
information
on
that.
I
can
look
at
some
images
to
answer
that
question
here
in
a
minute,
but
I
believe
that
it's
not,
as
you
know,
not
as
defined
as
you
go
further
west
along
rainville,
Road
and
I.
D
E
Just
I'd
have
to
look
to
see
if
marinville
road
is
a
county,
road
or
city
I
believe
it
might
be
a
County
right
of
way.
D
Because
if
it
was
city-owned
property,
there's
the
potential
that
the
city
could
go
in
later
and
do
that
and
also
a
question
of
who's,
maintaining
that
particular
section
of
the
property
in
perpetuity,
whether
it's
the
city,
whether
it's
the
county,
whether
it's
the
property
owner,
you
know
you
can't
just
like
put
in
public
infrastructure
without
indicating
who
ultimately
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
it.
I.
A
D
Usually
that's
the
thought,
but
then
there
are
some
codes
that
do
provide
and
I
think
the
tarpon
code
does
provide
that
property
owners
are
supposed
to
maintain
the
adjacent
right-of-way.
Usually
that's
like
in
the
form
of
mowing,
or
things
like
that,
but
sometimes
in
certain
certain
circumstances,
particularly
with
industrial
property.
A
lot
of
times
too
you'll
see
that
include
the
sidewalks
as
well.
So.
F
D
E
So
rainville
road
is
identified
on
our
Maps
as
a
County
right
of
way.
Obviously,
Pinellas
have
as
a
state
right
of
way
and
then
I'm
gonna
pull
up
the
images
for
the
drainage
soils.
A
So
she's
just
pulling
up
something.
It's.
G
Related,
okay,
I
think,
there's
a
picture
here
to
answer
one
of
the
questions:
if
the
Swale
goes
down
more-
and
this
is
a
picture
of
a
property-
is
further
down-
looks
like
it's
not
there
So.
E
G
Yeah
I
have
one,
do
we
know?
Has
there
has
there
been
any
study
or
do
we
know
of
any
amounts
of
people
that
transverse
that
road
now
is
there?
Is
there
pedestrians
using
that
road
now,
at
all.
E
E
A
G
E
This
is
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
up
here,
but
is
here
again
lorraineville
road
is
really
kind
of
a
mixture
of
more
non-residential
uses,
but
then
Drew
Boulevard
is
this
little
strip.
Here,
it's
unincorporated
County,
there's
a
couple
Pockets
that
have
been
annexed
into
the
city.
Recently.
That's
all
residential
here,
there's
residential
development
down
here
you
know
you
can't
necessarily
say
that
there
won't
be
residential
Redevelopment
in
the
future.
A
Okay,
if
there
are
no
other
questions
for
Miss
Keane
like
to
call
the
applicant
forward.
I
George
Pappas
2907
narcissus
Drive
in
Holiday,
Florida
and
I
have
been
sworn
in.
I
So,
like
Ali
was
saying,
there's
and
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
were
asked.
The
retainage
goes
all
the
way
across
rainville
Road.
There
are
no
sidewalks
and
any
other
business.
The
church
is
there's
nothing
there.
The
main
issue
is,
we
do,
might
meet
the
criteria
to
have
it
waived.
I
do
understand
our
developer
that
we
hired
at
the
beginning
didn't
check
for
this
and
that
his
his
mistake,
our
mistake
for
not
catching
it,
but
we
have
caught
it
and
we
are
trying
to
it.
F
I
I
D
No,
because
that's
not
technically
part
of
the
criteria
but
I
think
it
might
be
something
to
look
at
in
the
future,
for
for
the
city
as
a
whole,
not
for
this
board
in
terms
of
how
the
ordinances
are
structured,.
I
Thank
you
and
for
future
development
I
mean
that
I
don't
see
the
church
Irish
Church,
leaving
anytime
soon
and
they're,
going
to
run
into
the
same
difficulties
with
the
Swale
and
the
county.
Installing
the
sidewalk
is
the
difficulty
and
the
boardwalk.
The
boardwalk
is
a
very
difficult
animal
in
itself
that
they
and
there's
trees
in
the
way
in
the
wetlands
and
we're
not
allowed
to
work
in
the
wetlands,
so
we're
not
allowed
to
remove
the
trees.
So
how
are
we
putting
the
boardwalk
in
if
we
can't
remove
the
trees
that
are
in
the
wetlands.
F
I
J
I
C
D
Yes,
yeah,
they
would
have
had
to
have
come
either
at
the
time
they
did
their
site
plan
application
or
now
now
they're
kind
of
coming
after
the
fact.
If
they
had
done
it
when
they
originally
put
the
application
through,
then
they
would
have
come
to
this
board
before
going
through
the
site
plan
approval
process.
Okay,.
D
D
In
the
game,
it's
just
that
you
already
have
a
site
plan
approval
that
does
include
the
sidewalk
right.
E
I
would
say,
because
they
went
through
a
body
that
made
a
decision
based
off
criteria
to
remove
it.
I
think
they
would
have
to
amend
their
permit
applications
to
reflect
the
change
I.
Don't
necessarily
believe
it
would
trigger
them
to
go
back
through
the
full
site
plan
process,
no
okay,
because
it
doesn't
necessarily
impact
the
overall
layout
or
anything
else
on
the
property.
Okay.
Just
so
they.
F
There
were
a
way
for
them
to
pay
into
the
fund.
What
would
the
typical
amount
be
for
a
project
like
this
versus?
If,
if
they
had
that
as
an
option,
what
would
they
normally
pay
to
the
fund?
I.
E
Might
be,
it
might
be
within
a
different
section,
but
typically
what
I'll
say
with
the
the
pay
and
Lou
fee?
It's
really
at
the
discretion
of
our
you
know
our
public
works
department,
whether
or
not
to
date
that
they
meet
the
standards
of
to
contribute
to
the
trust
or
I'm.
Sorry,
the
sidewalk
fee,
in
this
case
I,
don't
believe
that
that
was
requested
from
them.
I,
don't
know
if
our
public
works
department
would
have
approved
in
Luffy,
but
typically
they
would
have.
F
E
All
right,
so
it
states
here
that
the
decision
of
whether
the
construction
of
a
sidewalk
on
a
parcel
is
Not
Practical
shall
be
made
by
the
development
services
director
or
his
or
her
designee.
In
making
such
a
decision
that
the
director
his
or
her
designee
shall
consider
the
following
factors:
one
would
be
whether
there
is
no
existing
sidewalk
to
which
the
proposed
sidewalk
can
connect,
and
it
is
unlikely
that
there
will
be
additional
development
nearby,
which
will
require
the
construction
of
additional
sidewalks,
essentially
in
the
future.
E
So
that's
how
they
make
the
determination.
In
the
review
of
this
you
know
it
was
determined
that
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
unknown
about
this
area
of
whether
or
not
so
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
decision
made
about
that,
but
the
application
was
for
the
sidewalk
waiver.
So
that's
why
it's
through
this
process-
and
then
I
was
looking
at
the
fee
says
the
fee
is
determined
by
multiplying
the
linear
feet
of
the
parcel
Street
Frontage
minus
anything.
E
D
Not
if
you're,
seeing
it
Regina
so
I'm,
looking
at
132.03,
where
it
talks
about
the
sidewalk
trust
funds.
That
second
thing
where
it
says
that
the
fee
is
established
biennially
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
resolution.
The
fee
shall
be
set
per
linear
foot
and
shall
be
calculated
as
1.25
times.
The
average
of
the
city's
sidewalk
construction
costs,
including
labor
on
a
per
linear
foot
basis.
E
A
Right,
yeah,
I
I,
do
I
know
you
had
mentioned.
You
know
the
the
street
not
further
development,
but
I
I
do
know
that
church
large
property
has
changed
hands
over
Tarpon
history,
and
you
know
with
the
passing
of
the
pastor
you
know,
and
the
family.
Ultimately,
they
may
decide
to
sell
and
develop
that
large
property
I
mean
that
that's
a
reality
and
one
of
the
things
for
us
as
a
board
is
like
we.
A
You
know,
we
can't
know
what
that
section
of
Tarpon
is
going
to
look
like
in
15
20
years,
but
the
wetlands
certainly
are
something
you
know
that
we
care
about
and
is
part
of
our
part
of
our
consideration,
but
you,
you
may
be
owning
in
your
family
and
who
you're
representing
may
may
be
having
that
business
next
to
a
large.
You
know,
apartment
complex
sure,.
E
G
Yeah,
you
have
a
couple
of
them.
Actually,
the
the
type
of
facility
that
you're
going
to
be
putting
in
is
that
more
of
an
upscale
facility,
not
upscale
facility.
G
More
upscale
because
I
was
just
thinking
of
the
Aesthetics
of
you
know
you
attracting
business
I,
you
know,
Mr
habrosky's,
point
of
the
boardwalk
was
well
taken
at
the
Aesthetics,
might
actually
help
you
down
the
road.
I
Being
that
it's
in
the
wetlands,
it
has
to
go
from
five
foot
to
eight
foot
to
begin
with,
because
the
front
portion
of
it
is
not
on
the
wetlands,
so
they're
going
to
have
to
build
that
and
actually
put
the
machine,
the
excavator,
on
top
of
the
boardwalk,
to
build
the
rest
of
the
boardwalk
and
drive
the
piles
into
the
wetlands,
because
we
cannot
put
the
machine
in
the
wetlands
to
tear
up
the
wetlands.
G
I
G
I
G
There's
nowhere
to
put
this
on
were
there
many
large
trees
and
things
you
had
to
remove
on
the
rest
of
the
property
already
Yes.
L
G
G
Okay
and
then
my
my
I
guess,
my
last
comment
is
about
the
liability
I'm
from
up
North
and
up
north
when
we
had
to
do
our
sidewalks.
Our
sidewalks
were
on
the
right
of
way,
but
if
we
didn't
shovel
our
snow,
we
were
responsible,
so
I'm,
guessing
you're
responsible,
whether
it's
on
the
right
of
way
or
not.
I,
don't
know
because
that's
a
legal
question
but
Common
Sense
would
be
that
if
you
know
we
have
to
construct
it
and
they've
already
been
through
the
process.
G
You're
I,
probably
wherever
you
put
it
you're,
going
to
be
responsible,
somebody
falls
on
it
would
be
my
guess
and
I
was
just
you
know:
I
just
think
that
if
you're
going
to
have
an
upscale
facility,
I
know
it's
a
a
big
problem
to
put
it
in,
but
you've
already
removed
a
lot
of
trees.
So
the
five
that
are
there
may
not
be
that
Monumental
compared
to
what's
already
been
done,
and
the
Aesthetics
may
actually
help
your.
If
you
have
an
upscale
facility,
you
know
the
Aesthetics
may
help
so
I
know
it's
a
it's.
G
So
you
know
it's
I
have
some
personal
experience,
but
I
have
been
down
that
road
several
times
actually
more
than
several
times
and
I
have
seen
teenagers
on
that
road
more
than
a
couple
of
times.
So
that's
why
I
was
asking.
Is
there
a
residential
in
the
area?
I
mean
I,
don't
know
the
area
that
well,
but
I've,
seen
teams
on
that
road
and
it
was.
G
It
is
a
bit
problematic
because
it's
not
that
wide
of
a
road
and
if
more
residential
is
going
to
go
in
there
you
know
I
know
it's
hard
being
the
first
one.
You
know
if,
if
you
have
to
do
a
sideways
like
nobody
else
has
one
but
somebody's
got
to
be
first
or
you
know
to
put
them
in
so
I
have
seen
teenagers
on
several
occasions
on
that
road.
So
I
think
there
is
probably
some
residential
in
the
area,
but
I.
I
Think
the
question
is
mine
is
that
we
meet
the
criteria,
so
we
should
be
approved,
there's
nothing
in
the
order
and
it
says
that
even
we
got
it
approved
in
2020
in
2023.
It
doesn't
say
anything
that
we
cannot
get
it
waived
if
we
meet
the
criteria,
so
I
think
that's
the
most
important
question
is
we
meet
the
criteria
to
be
at
waived,
so
we
should
be
approved,
it
shouldn't
be
Aesthetics,
it
shouldn't
be
future
development.
We
meet
those
criteria
and
the
owners
does
not
say
anything
if
it
can
go
retro.
I
M
F
A
sidewalk
to
Nowhere,
normally
I
would
any
vet
developers
say
you
have
to
put
the
sidewalk
in
no
matter
whether
there
are
other
or
properties
nearby
or
not,
because
someday
somebody
will
build
something
and
then
it's
going
to
have
to
be
addressed
at
some
point.
That's
why
I
had
hoped
you
could
just
put
money
in
the
fund
and
kick
the
can
down
the
road,
and
then
somebody
else
will
pay
for
that
whenever
they
figure
out
how
to
do
it,
but
I
yeah
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
leading
towards
granting
this
this
sidewalk
waiver
myself
right.
A
And
then
it's
just
a
question
for
the
City
attorney
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
goes
first,
the
chicken
or
egg
when,
like
you
said
you
know,
the
plans
have
already
been
through
this
process,
we're
not
usually
in
this
situation.
Normally
we
see
it
on
the
front
end,
so
that's
for
this
City
attorney
to
figure
out
how
to
navigate
that
forward.
If
we
approve
a
waiver
tonight
and
and
just
as
a
reminder,
this
criteria
is
different,
unlike
our
normal
criteria,
says
you
have
to
meet
all
of
them.
A
G
The
so
the
the
construction
process
for
the
wetlands,
in
your
opinion,
I
know
you
don't
know
until
you
do
it,
but
in
your
opinion,
will
it
do
irreparable
harm
to
the
wetlands
like
permanent
harm
to
the
wetlands?
Or
would
the
construction
be
done
and
then
the
wetlands
would
be
the
same
as
it
was
afterwards.
I
I
A
Swift
Mud
already
approved
it,
so
they
would
be
the
agency
that
determines
whether
or
not
there
would
be
a
reputable
harm
right
to
the
wetlands
and
they
were
the
ones
who
approved
the
plan
that
was
submitted
to
the
so
they
went
through
that
process
to
see
if
that
Boardwalk
would
meet.
Swift's
muds,
okay,.
I
A
Presenting
anyone
from
the
public
wish
to
address
this
issue.
Yes,
sir,
please
come
to
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
and
address
and
that
you've
been
sworn.
L
My
name
is
Jeff
zelmanov
I
live
at
1461,
North,
River,
Circle
I
have
been
sworn
and
we
live
in
a
new
development.
It's
called
Riverbend
Village.
We
use
this
road
every
day
to
come
and
go
from
our
house,
the
anclot
road
that
we
have
that
we
have
now
runs
along
Captain,
Jack's,
I'm,
sure
you're,
familiar
they're,
going
to
do
sidewalks
and
everything
on
that.
Supposedly
that
road
is
quite
a
mess.
We
prefer
this
road
and
when
that
Road's
under
construction,
this
will
be
the
main
road
to
use
where
we
live.
L
L
They
use
this
road
and
then
right
right
at
the
end
of
Rainsville
Road,
where
it
takes
a
left,
there's
probably
about
15
or
20
duplexes,
with
lots
of
families
and
kids
and
they
come
up
and
up
and
down
the
road
and
then
all
the
people,
not
all
the
people,
but
some
people
that
live
in
that
work
in
those
the
boat
place
and
all
the
industrial
things
back
there.
They
ride
bikes
and
walk
to
work
on
that
road.
L
They
take
the
whole
Road
Plus
RVs
are
very
big,
we're
talking
about
putting
a
lot
of
big
heavy
Vehicles
up
and
down
that
road
and
there's
nowhere
to
go
if
you're,
a
pedestrian
or
bicyclist
I
know,
there's
no
sidewalk
on
this
road
yet,
but
this
will
be
the
start
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
use
it.
A
lot
of
people
live
back
there
and
it's
a
good
A
to
B
route
to
Pinellas
the
they're
talking
about
the
sidewalk
doesn't
have
an
end
there.
You
have
to
just
jump
into
the
edge.
L
Well,
that's
a
design
fault.
They
should
put
a
little
piece
on
the
end
when
you
have
that
map
up
there
and
as
far
as
the
wetlands
I
mean
they've
been
digging
that
place
up
for
a
year,
like
you
said,
they've
removed,
hundreds
of
trees
and
I
do
see
those
palm
trees.
But
how
would
you
remove
them
would
be
really
simple.
You
have
a
crane
on
the
edge
of
the
road
and
they
pull
them
out.
They
don't
have
to
drive
a
tractor
or
a
tracko
in
there.
L
They
do
this
stuff
all
the
time
the
land's
perfectly
flat.
It
wouldn't
be
that
hard
to
do.
Would
it
be
more
expensive
than
just
throwing
concrete
down
yes,
but
is
it
impossible
I,
don't
think
so?
There's
so
many
places
we
go
to
the
state
parks
where
they
build
these
wooden
bridges
over
it.
So
you
can
see
the
wetlands
we
have
like
10
parks
in
Pinellas
County
like
that
already
so
I
don't
see
the
damage
results.
I!
Think
that's
an
exaggeration.
L
We
have
cranes,
we're
not
talking
about
going
40
50
feet
off
the
road.
You
know
they
use
cranes
all
the
time
for
reaching
out
and
doing
stuff.
So
I,
don't
think
that's
practical!
It's
too
hard
to
do.
It
may
be
expensive,
I
agree,
but
we
need
to
sidewalk
somewhere
to
start
there,
there's
no
safe
way
to
go
anywhere.
A
lot
of
people
live
in
our
neighborhoods,
they
like
to
go
to
the
Pinellas
Trail.
So
we
go
up
that
rainville
road
and
there's
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
the
church.
L
L
L
You
know
everything
so
you
know
I
saw
this.
I
was
like
wow.
That's
you
know
why?
Because
if,
if
they
do
it
the
next
one's
going
to
need
to
do
it,
we
need
to
improve
that
area.
There's
not
that
many
ways
around.
You
know
we
want
to
improve
the
trails
access
to
the
bike
trails
safety
of
people
like
if
you
get
a
flat
tire
on
it.
Now,
where
do
you
go?
You
got
to
be
on
the
road.
We
see
people
on
the
road
changing
their
Tire
I
know.
L
The
sidewalk
is
only
half
the
length
of
that
road
because
that's
a
big
property,
it's
about
half
the
length,
so
that
would
be
something
that'd
give
you
an
escape
off
the
road
at
least
so
I
think
it's
a
well-needed
thing.
I,
don't
I,
understand,
there's
criterias
and
they
don't
want
to
do
it
in
this
and
that,
but
what's
it
going
to
do
to
that
road
to
have
all
these
huge
boats
and
RVs
going
up
and
down
it?
It's
a
very
narrow
road
and
there's
a
ditch
on
each
side.
L
I
would
like
to
see
the
sidewalk
put
in
there's
a
lot
of
people
live
back
there
I,
don't
know.
If
you're
a
well
of
all
the
developments
you
have
Riverbend
Village,
there's
54
homes,
you
have
Tarpon
key
I,
think
there's
about
50
60
homes
there
before
you
get
there,
the
road
right
off
a
rainbow.
I
forgot
the
name
there's
probably
about
30
duplexes
lots
of
little
kids
and
all
people
of
all
ages
and
they
ride
bikes.
L
They
walk,
they
go
back
and
forth
and,
like
you
said,
there's
two
churches
on
that
road:
a
lot
of
people
there
too,
and
then
you
have
the
boat
club,
has
that
fun
scenario
where
they
do
the
boat
setups,
but
yeah
there's
going
to
be
more
places.
Like
you
said,
some
of
these
places
are
going
to
go
away
and
they're
going
to
be
apartment
buildings
just
like
the
rest
of
the
state.
L
Just
a
matter
of
time
and
I
think
kicking
the
can
down.
The
road
is
a
mistake.
I
think
we
should
start
now
and
move
forward
and
get
this
done
and
try
to
convince
the
next
person
to
do
it
or
you
know,
and
there
should
be
a
connector.
If,
if
you
put
that
map
back
up
on
there
with
the
the
cat,
you
know
the
fence,
you
see
at
the
end
here
where
it's
left,
where
he
says:
you'll
have
to
jump
across
that's
true,
but
that
that
should
be
revised.
L
L
I'm
just
saying
we,
we
were
riding
trying
to
ride
our
bikes
up,
anclot,
Road
and
people
really
speeding
on
that
road,
and
it
goes
like
this.
It's
narrow
too,
and
this
is
a
better
route.
It's
a
little
safer
to
ride
your
bike,
but
you
know
it's
going
to
get
worse
when
you
have
boats
and
RV
trailers
all
the
time
pulling
in
and
out
of
there
I'm
gonna
guess,
they're
gonna
have
to
have
a
really
wide
driveway
entrance
to
do
that,
because
it's
a
narrow
road.
Some
of
those
motorhomes
are
35
feet.
Long,
Boat,
Trailers,
Etc,.
E
L
1300
feet,
1300
something
feet
and,
and
the
rest
of
the
road
is
that's
the
bigger
section
on
that
road
before
you,
because
after
their
property,
you
have
the
church
and
then
the
Boatyard,
then
there's
the
stop
sign
there.
So
that
would
cover
two-thirds
of
that
road
with
a
sidewalk
which
is
a
good
start.
G
D
That's
not
part
of
the
criteria
that
is
in
the
code,
so
whether
or
not
people
do
or
do
not
ride
bikes.
That's
not
actually
part
of
the
listed
criteria.
It's
sort
of
extraneous
information
in
this
respect.
D
You
know,
and
and
when
you
look
at
where
that
Swale,
that
Swale
is
that
Swale,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
the
sidewalks
go
in
that
Swale
is
still
going
to
be
there.
You
know
and
there's
and
there's
no
improvements
that
are
going
to
be
made
directly
to
that
roadway.
So
that's
not
part
of
this
at
all.
So.
G
D
F
E
They
I
mean
they
have
similar
to
what
they're
doing
along
Anclote
Road.
They
go
through
processes
of
roadway
improvements.
They
have
a
Capital
Improvements
program,
just
like
we
do
that
basically
prioritizes
different
projects.
I
would
assume
that
any
sort
of
improvements,
unless
there
was
an
immediate
safety
need
I,
would
assume
they
would
have
to
follow
their
Capital
Improvements
program.
I,
don't
know
if
rainville
road
is
on
any
sort
of
list,
but
that
would
technically
be
the
way
that
they
would
have.
F
To
approach
it,
so
the
priority
would
have
to
be
raised
and
just
to
be
clear,
we
can't
consider
Financial
issues,
whether
it's
going
to
cost
this
person
or
the
the
developer
a
lot
of
money
or
not.
We're
not
allowed
to
consider
that,
but
I
wouldn't
care
if
it
cost
them
a
million
dollars
right
I
would
say,
put
it
in
if
I
thought
it
made
sense
or
a
million
dollars
into
the
to
the
sidewalk
fund.
F
If
you
don't
want
it,
but
somehow
that
procedure
we're
not
allowed
to
even
get
them
to
put
in
a
dollar
for
sure,
so
that
chat
changes
things
here.
But
what
doesn't
change
I
guess
is
I.
Guess
the
the
fact
that
it
appears
to
me
that
he
they
meet
at
least
one.
If
not
two
of
the
four
criteria,
that's
I
feel
like
I'm
stuck
I,
don't
know
what
else
to.
F
Mean
it's:
what
else
can
we
do,
but
approvement
I
don't
know
unless
anybody
can
say
otherwise
or
convince
me
that,
because
I
mean
that
you
make
a
compelling
argument,
I
mean
but
again
I
think
that's
going
to
be
something
for
the
county,
because
human
safety,
of
course
I
mean
we
need
to
consider
that
I.
Just
and
again
somebody
needs
to
start
putting
in
sidewalks
somewhere
someday.
But
if.
F
But
I'm
happy
to
because
they
meet
the
criteria
and
that's
where
we're
Bound
by
but
other
than
that
I
mean
I
mean
it
just
on
its
face.
This
thing
is
very
complex,
very
complicated,
but
they
meet
the
criteria
as
far
as
I
can
tell
I
just
hope
that
they
do
kick
in
some
money
to
the
fund
anyways,
but
I,
don't
unless
somebody
else
can
convince
me.
Otherwise,
that's
for
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
waiver.
A
E
E
The
application
is
to
allow
a
reduced
side
yard
setback
for
a
new
12
by
16
or
192
square
foot.
Storage
shed
to
be
installed
on
the
property.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
side
yard
setback
of
five
feet
where
they
would
be
typically
required.
A
minimum
setback
of
five
feet
from
I'm
sorry
they're,
requesting
a
zero
foot
setback
typically
required
a
five
foot
side
setback.
E
The
Land
Development
code
does
have
some
specific
requirements
for
storage
sheds
that
are
less
than
200
square
feet,
which
is
what
is
being
proposed.
It
does
allow
for
reduced
side
and
rear
setbacks
of
five
feet
and
again
they're,
proposing
a
side
yard
of
zero
feet.
The
proposed
shed
is
shown
here
in
Blue
on
the
screen
bumped
up
right
up
to
an
existing
six
foot
privacy
fence
that
surrounds
the
entire
rear
yard
of
the
property
shown
in
Orange.
E
E
A
majority
of
the
rear
yard
is
enclosed,
with
a
pool
screen
enclosure
and
a
swimming
pool
on
the
north
side
of
the
yard
has
some
existing
trees,
providing
some
limitations
to
locating
a
shed
and
then
on
the
South
Side
they've
indicated
that
there
are
some
brick
sidewalls
or
walkways,
as
well
as
some
existing
trees
that
I've
shown
here
in
green
that
kind
of
limit
at
their
potential
location.
One
thing
that
staff
had
noted
is
that
the
existing
home
is
set
back
from
the
side.
E
These
are
some
images
provided
by
the
applicant.
This
is
looking
towards
the
street.
This
is
the
proposed
location
of
the
shed.
You
can
see
that
existing
walkway,
the
entry
to
the
screen
enclosure
is
over
here
and
some
of
the
existing
trees
and
foliage
on
the
property
that
kind
of
limit
where
he
can
place
the
shed.
This
is
looking
the
opposite
direction
towards
the
back
of
the
property
again,
the
brick
walkway
and
some
existing
trees.
D
A
Thank
you
hearing,
no
other
questions
for
Ms
Keane.
Do
we
have
the
applicant
present
tonight?
Yes,
if
you
please
state
your
name
and
address,
and
then
anything
you'd
like
to
present
us
with
Robert.
M
M
M
We
got
raccoons,
we
got
possums
armadillos
tortoises
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
have
it
up
against
the
fence.
There
will
be
sufficient
areas
as
a
matter
of
fact,
Ellie
and
I
had
a
conversation.
The
fence
is
fairly
new
and
there
are
all
kinds
of
different
areas
where
the
animals
travel
through
the
yard.
I
love
animals
I
have
no
objection
to
them.
Even
nesting,
but
I
do
not
want
to
get
in
the
same
situation.
M
That
I
was
in
before,
where
the
shed
and
the
fence
created
an
area
that
basically
was
not
able
to
be
maintained
and
there's
hopefully
I,
don't
know
Ali
did
everybody
get
the
sheet?
Yes,
I
went
out.
I
made
extensive
measurements.
M
M
H
M
M
Yeah,
if
you
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
driveway
I've,
got
bushes
and
you'd
say
like
a
little
Refuge
appeal.
Excuse
the
expression
so
I
know
there
are
quite
a
few
animals
that
live
there
and
I,
don't
mind
them.
Passing
through
I,
don't
mind
if
they
nest.
I
just
would
prefer
it
not
being,
as
I
said,
the
same
situation
I
experienced
with
the
other
shed.
M
L
M
A
Thank
you
just
in
reference
to
what
you're
saying
about
the
blue
card.
It's
the
exact
measurements.
M
Any
smaller
and
it
wouldn't
really
be
practical
for
what
I'm
attempting
I've
got
a
storage
unit
right
now.
That's
about
that
size
and
I've
got
stuff
in
my
garage
that
I
need
to
move
into
the
shed.
A
G
M
M
G
G
The
other,
the
other
thing
I
have
is
just
a
comment.
I
know
you
were
saying
that
the
the
wildlife
would
be
problematic
if
you
left
the
space.
I
was
kind
of
thinking.
It
would
be
problematic
the
other
way
if
something
got
in
and
burrowed
down
in
there
between
or
underneath
the
fence.
You
couldn't
address
it
unless
you
moved
your
shed,
then
well.
M
Tough
Shed
actually
provides
a
product
that
has
a
floor.
M
Mine
is
actually
I'm
going
to
have
somebody
come
in
and
pour
a
slab,
so
it's
going
to
be
actually
something
I'm
sure
the
the
person
that's
pointing
the
shed
is
not
with
the
shed
once
the
slab
is
poured
cured,
then
cuff
shed
is
going
to
come
in
and
put
the
shed
on
top
of
the
slab.
A
A
Does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant
tonight?
No.
E
A
M
M
E
F
E
F
E
A
If
you
have
any
questions,
public
comment,
okay,
thank
you,
sir,
for
coming
and
submitting
everything
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who'd
wish
to
address
this
application
tonight,
seeing
none?
Okay,
any
further
discussion
by
the
board
tonight.
A
C
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
have
no
further
applications
tonight.
Staff
prepared
to
make
any
comments.
E
I,
do
not
have
anything,
I
want
to
again
welcome
Mr
wood
to
the
board
and
he
got
to
participate
in
his
very
first
meeting.
So
congratulations.
We
finally
have
a
full
board
and
I
know.
Mr
Rossi
always
threatens
that
he's
leaving
in
October,
and
maybe
he
is,
we
don't
know
so
we're
happy
to
have
everyone
on
board
and
we
appreciate
your
participation.
I
also
want
to
thank
Paige,
Tillerson
she's
filling
in
for
Kim
tonight.