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Yes,
I'd
like
to
remind
to
everyone
that,
due
to
the
health
crisis
that
we
continue
to
face,
the
meetings
will
continue
to
be
conducted
by
video
conferencing
and
provide
for
public
comments
to
protect
the
public
and
the
employees,
and
the
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
for
the
board
of
commissioners
to
study
issues,
to
gather
and
to
analyze
information
and
to
clarify
questions.
No
votes
are
conducted
during
the
workstations.
A
No
public
comments
will
be
allowed.
Tonight,
however,
will
be
allowed
during
the
two
public
hearings
that
are
scheduled
for
thursday
september
3rd
and
tuesday
september
15
2020
at
6
30
pm.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
tonight
is
proposed
budget
fiscal
year,
2021
presentation,
mr
richards,
are
you
ready
to
present
the
budget
to
us.
F
Yes,
mr
herring
will
give
that
presentation.
Thank
you.
E
Well,
good
evening,
america,
commissioners
ron
herring
finance
director.
You
know
tonight
we
have
the
first
budget
workshop
on
the
fiscal
year
2021
budget,
and
if
I
can,
I've
got
a
I'll
try
to
be
a
brief
presentation,
because
I
know
you
all
want
to
dig
into
the
budget
book
here.
So
let
me
just
do
my
screen
share
thing.
E
The
budget
process
today,
let's
it
started
back
in
february
departments,
have
entered
their
budget
requests.
I
can
tell
you,
you
know
it's
a
long
process.
It's
already
going
on
six
seven
months
now,
you
know.
Sometimes
I
forget
what
we
were
doing
back
then
six
months
ago
and
stuff,
but
I
do
thank
all
the
departments
for
everything
they've
done
with
the
with
their
budgets.
E
All
funds
have
been
balanced
in
the
budget
that
you
have
been
you
received.
There
is
no
unassigned
fund
balance,
which
is
the
unrestricted
reserves
used
to
balance
the
general
fund,
and
in
may
through
july,
the
budget
advisory
committee
reviewed
the
budgets
and
also
met
with
the
department's
heads,
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
thank
the
budget
advisory
committee
for
all
their
time
they
spent
on
the
budget.
E
They
spent
hours
going
over
each
fund
each
department,
every
line
item
in
the
department's
budgets,
and
then
they
met
with
every
department,
so
they
spent
hours
on
the
budget
document
and
just
you
might
know
this
already,
but
there's
two
budget
books
one's
the
three
ring
book.
The
big
detail
book:
it's
got
everything
in
it:
the
table
of
contents,
revenues,
expenditures,
justifications
personal
schedules.
E
So
if
you
like
detail
that
that
book's
got
it
all
if
you're
looking
for
something
particular
the
table
of
contents
has
a
lot
of
good
information
on
it
there
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
I
started
adding
in
what
we
call
the
executive
summary.
It
takes
those
numbers,
you
know
all
the
information
in
the
detail
report
and
then
puts
them
in
the
varying
formats
and
also
compares
prior
years,
and
I
highlighted
there
the
executive
summary
budget
message
highlighted
in
yellow
that's
new
this
year.
E
So
if
you
want
to
just
get
the
highlights
of
some
funds,
this
is
a
good
document
to
go
to.
The
other
ones
are
some
of
the
same
ones.
We've
had
previously
the
personnel
property
values
general
fund
summary
highlighted
in
yellow
is
a
community
redevelopment
agency
fund.
That's
new
this
year.
I
thought
we'd
put
that
one
in
there
also,
but
it's
also
showing,
like
the
other
funds
like
general
fund
and
water,
and
sewer
some
comparative
information.
E
So
that's
the
executive
summary
and
just
to
break
out
part
of
the
executive.
Summary
in
the
back
has
the
cip
information.
It's
some
good
information
in
the
back.
I
just
thought:
I'd
highlight
five-year
cip,
summary
page
106
to
107.
That's
got
on
those
two
pages.
That's
got
all
of
five.
If
you're
looking
for
all
the
cip
projects,
it's
on
those
two
pages
right
there.
E
E
I
put
that
in
there
it
has
not
only
the
cip,
but
it
has
what
we
call
the
capital
outlay.
The
smaller
items
for
machinery,
equipment
and
then
down
below
at
the
bottom
is
capitals
items
that
requested,
but
they're,
not
in
the
budget,
yet
they're
on
standby,
getting
into
the
budget
document
some
of
the
big
numbers
here,
the
total
city
budget
and
five
largest
funds.
We've
got
the
total
city
budget.
On
the
left
side,
there's
62
million
877
000
at
2021,
going
across
comparing
it
to
2020
64
million.
E
It's
a
1.1
million
dollar
decrease
a
1.77
decrease.
The
main
reason
for
the
decrease
is
there's
some
larger
capital
items
that
were
in
2020
that
are
not
in
2021
and
then
going
down.
I
always
like
to
look
at
the
you
know
the
five
largest
funds
which
make
up
90
of
the
budget.
We
have
30
funds
in
the
budget,
but
these
are
the
five
largest
funds.
E
Of
course,
the
general
fund,
with
a
budget
26
million
663
000,
which
is
42
percent
of
the
budget
last
year,
was
26
million
14
000
an
increase
of
648
000
or
2.49
water
and
sewer
fund.
18.8
million
30
of
the
budget
last
year
was
20.1
million.
It
was
a
decrease
of
almost
1.3
million
and
that's
because
of
some
capital
projects
that
were
in
the
previous
year,
sanitation
fund
6.2
million
this
year.
9.94
percent
of
the
budget
last
year
is
5.4
million.
So
it's
at
an
increase
of
828
thousand
dollars.
E
Stormwater
fund
1.7
million
2.8
percent
of
the
budget
last
year
was
3.6
million.
It
went
down
almost
1.9
million.
The
main
reason
is:
we've
got
in
this
current
fiscal
year,
2020
the
gross
budget
of
over
2
million
dollars,
and
then
the
penny
fund
we've
got
almost
3.3
million.
Budgeted
5.2.1
of
the
budget
last
year
is
2.4
million
at
835
000
increase
and
I
just
want
to
mention
the
3.3
million
277
000
budget
and
penny
fund
includes
1.4
million.
E
decrease
police
and
fire
pensions
are
funded
at
the
actual
required
contribution.
The
general
pension
is
at
8.7,
it's
a
defined
contribution
plan,
whereas
a
police
and
fire
is
a
defined
benefit
plan.
Workers
compensation
is
budgeted
at
10
increase.
We
don't
have
the
final
rate
yet
so
that's
still
to
be
determined
what
they
will
be
property
insurance.
Just
like
workers
comp.
We
don't
have
the
the
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be
yet
so
we
budgeted
an
estimate
of
a
10
increase.
E
Getting
into
the
general
fund-
and
I
just
want
to
when
I
want
to
mention
before
you
know-
I
know
we
mentioned
some
of
these
numbers
just
on
the
previous
slide,
but
you
know
initially,
when
we
started
working
on
the
general
fund,
it
had
no
pay
increases,
we
had
you
know
we
had
it
was.
It
was
tight,
trying
to
budget
the
fun
the
pandemic
and
everything
you
know
we
had
the
we
had
the
we
had,
the
departments
going
and
cut
quite
a
bit
of
operating
out
of
their
budgets
and
we
also
kept
the
previous
years.
D
E
And
at
capital,
but
then
you
know
when
we
had
the
health
insurance
decrease
and
the
original
budget
had
property
values
going
up
just
4.5,
but
then
we
found
out
the
prop
from
the
property
price
or
the
values
went
up
6.16
so
between
the
health,
insurance
decrease
and
the
property
values
going
up,
we
were
able
to
provide
the
pay
increase
in
the
budget
funded
to
three
percent
and
also
have
some
money
left
over
available
on
reserve
so
beginning
to
the
screen.
Here.
E
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
sort
of
the
history
of
where
we're
back
coming
back
from
april
and
may,
like
I
say,
the
budget,
you
know
I've
basically
gone
over
these
numbers
already.
It's
gone
up,
648
thousand,
but
the
main
reason
for
the
increase
is
is
a
pay
increase.
We
do
have
a
new
internal
auditor
position
and
some
paramedics
that
were
under
the
safer
grant.
E
The
safer
grant
expired
this
current
year,
so
we're
no
longer
getting
any
funding
from
fema
on
the
safer
ground
and
just
to
go
over
the
general
fund
revenues
by
type
highlighted
in
yellow
on
the
bottom
right.
Taxes
are
the
biggest
portion
of
the
revenues.
54
coming
in
next
is
the
charges
for
services
at
3.1
million
and
then
intergovernmental
revenues
at
2.8,
general
fund
expenditures
by
function
and
down
on
the
bottom
right.
E
Then,
if
you
look
at
the
the
expenditures
by
type
and
as
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
right,
personnel
services
are
74
of
the
of
the
budget.
Coming
in
second
is
operating
services
at
almost
6.4
million
or
24.
E
The
revenue
projections
property
taxes
like,
as
I
mentioned
six
point
one
percent.
What's
excuse
me
six
point:
six
increase
in
taxable
values,
the
millage
rate
is
maintained
at
5.37
and
the
total
property
tax
revenues
is
10
million,
232
123
dollars,
that's
38
of
the
general
fund
revenues
and
just
to
go
into
a
couple
of
the
other
larger
revenues
we
have
utility
tax
and
franchise
fees.
I
projected
at
two
percent
a
lot
of
the
revenues
I
projected
right
around
two
percent,
but
from
what
I'm
finding
out.
I
I
know
from
mr
smith.
E
We
found
out
tonight
that
somebody
actually
was
looking
at
our
from
duke
energy.
Our
our
presentation
tonight,
you
know,
and
the
franchise
of
free
agreement
for
duke
is
up
for
we're.
Renewing
it
right
now
for
another
we're
hoping,
maybe
15
years
so
the
franchise
fee
might
be
a
little
bit
more,
but
we
just
want
to
wait
until
we
get
the
new
agreement
signed
to
find
out.
E
So
we
might
have
a
little
bit
more
revenue
under
the
electric
franchise
fee,
ems,
fire
and
school
officer
fees
based
on
the
contracts
with
the
county,
school
board
and
sales
taxes
for
our
two
that
are
in
the
general
fund
are
the
half
cent
sales
tax
and
the
revenue
sharing
where
we
project
a
7.5
decrease
with
those.
E
I
always
like
to
show
this
screen
every
year.
It
shows
the
composition
of
the
property
tax
over
the
you
know,
going
back
to
we're
going
back
to
2007
here
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
2011
we
went
up
to
5.45.45
have
had
decreases.
Since
then
we
went
to
5.42
about
2017
and
then
about
2020.
We
went
down
to
5.37
and
then
next,
as
the
taxable
values
you
can
see
back
in
2008
before
the
great
recession,
we
were
up
almost
close
to
2
billion
in
taxable
values.
E
E
E
You
take
the
millage
rate
times
the
taxable
value
and
you
get
the
ad
valorem
revenues
and,
as
you
can
see
back
in
2007,
we
were
at
8.1
million
dipped
down
to
6.7
million
in
2013,
and
then
this
current
year
in
the
general
fund
budget,
we're
at
10
million
232
000,
always
like
that
we'd
like
to
compare
the
you
know
the
city
of
tarpon,
to
what
we
call
the
other
full-service
cities
with
populations
greater
than
20
full
service,
we're
saying
that
they
got
police.
E
We
are
currently
the
lowest
millage
rate
of
the
of
the
cities.
With
a
population
full-service
cities
with
population
greater
than
20
000.,
we
did,
we've
actually
decreased
our
millage
in
the
last
six
years
and
so
is
pinellas
park.
E
Most
of
this
four
point,
six
million
is
from
the
water
and
sewer
fund
like
as
mentioned
earlier
executive
summary
book,
has
some
a
lot
of
good
information
on
the
cip
budget.
You
know
budget
paid
101
to
126.
106
107
has
a
cip
summary
with
everything
and,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
108
through
121
has
a
spawn
pages.
122
124
has
all
capital,
including
a
capital
outlays
between
the
two.
E
They
total
9.9
million
and
pages
125
126,
says
capital
requested,
but
not
in
the
budget,
but
to
be
prioritized
if
funding
becomes
available
and
just
to
show
some
of
the
larger
projects
in
the
cip.
We've
got
water
and
sewer
fund
water,
pipe
valve
replacement,
500
000,
manhole,
sewer
lines,
250
000
force
main
improvements,
250
000
from
the
penny
fund.
E
back
in
2000.
The
taxable
value
for
the
cra
was
41
million
and
taxable
values
over
the
base
year.
Both
both
the
city
and
the
county
go
into
the
cra
and
it's
called
tax,
increment
financing
and
the
cra
revenue
for
this
current
year.
Basically,
the
same
279
000
will
come
from
279
000
bill
the
county
and
they
send
us
a
check
for
their
portion.
E
Cra
expenditures
for
2021-
and
I
highlighted
over
to
the
left,
the
reserve
for
capital
at
215
000,
that's
the
biggest
portion,
but
it's
not
earmarked
for
anything
yet
and
really
with
that
215
000.
It's
there's
still
500
000
in
front
balance,
so
there's
roughly
about
715
000
available
in
the
cra
fund.
E
After
that
there's
personnel
services,
107
000
and
then
there's
a
loan
repayment
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
that
will
be
the
last
payment
on
that
loan
and
just
to
briefly
go
over
the
enterprise
funds.
2021
budget
18.8
million
last
year
was
20.1
million.
It
went
down
1.3,
basically
because
the
capital
went
down
because
of
two
larger
projects:
a
new
water,
well
project
and
sea
breeze
drive,
sewer
water
and
sewer
revenues
by
type
93.
E
17.5
million
is
charges
for
services.
Those
are
mostly
your
water
and
sewer
fees
and
some
reclaimed
fees
reclaims,
usually
only
about
400
000,
the
expenses
of
the
water
and
sewer
fund.
The
largest
one
is
31,
5.8
million
personnel
services
operating
services
comes.
It
comes
in
second,
at
4.8
million
capital
outlay,
4.7
million.
E
A
little
bit
about
the
sanitation
fund,
it's
the
third
largest
fund,
6.2
million
a
budget
this
year
of
6.2
million
last
year,
was
5.4
million.
It's
an
increase
of
828
thousand,
mostly
increases
due
to
the
contract
within,
and
some
capital
requirements
for
the
new
scale
house
and
relocating
and
with
the
mayor's
boulevard
connection
to
the
yard
waste
facility,
sanitation
revenues.
E
It's
like
say
it's
another
enterprise
sponsors
charges
for
services,
5.9
million
95
percent-
is
charging
that's
your
revenues
and
recycling
fees,
sanitation,
fund
expenses
exceed
79
percent,
12.9
million
is
for
operating
services,
and
that's
what's
in
the
contractor,
to
haul
the
garbage
refusing
recycling
away
a
little
bit
about
stormwater
fund,
its
largest
fund
in
the
city,
1.8
million
it
receives
fees
of
1.7
million.
E
The
majority
of
expenses
are
for
personnel
and
operating
there's
no
capital
in
this
in
the
stormwater
this
fund,
because
it's
basically
been
eaten
up
by
the
what's
once
we
get
the
pent
grows.
Project
going
golf
course
fund
has
a
budget
of
1.4
million
and
basically,
as
you
know,
golf
course,
but
fees
pay
for
personal
and
operating
costs
of
the
golf
course.
E
E
I'm
thinking
with
what
it
looked
like
that
the
marina
fees
will
now
cover
operating
expenses,
because
the
last
couple
years
the
revenues
have
not
been
enough
to
cover
the
expenses
and
the
fund
balance
has
been,
has
been
decreasing
about
20
000
a
year,
and
my
last
slide
is
just
the
budget
process
timetable
tonight.
First
budget
workshop
august
18th
second
budget
workshop,
if
necessary,
august,
24th
third
budget
workshop,
if
necessary,
august,
24th
trim
notices
are
mailed
by
property,
appraiser
september
3rd.
E
I
think
I
think
it's
a
thursday
that
would
be
the
first
public
hearing
on
the
tentative
village
and
tentative
budget
and
in
september
15th
a
tuesday
would
be
the
second
and
final
public
hearing
and
then
october
first
would
be
the
first
day
of
the
new
year,
and
with
that,
that's
my
presentation.
If
you've
got
any
questions,
mr.
A
A
I
want
to
thank
you
again,
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
else
involved
with
that.
I
have
a
couple
questions
that
I
like
to
ask
you.
The
first
question
that
I
have
is
in
benefit
to
the
audience.
What
is
the
unassigned
fund
that
we
have.
E
Well,
the
unassigned
fund
balance
is
basically
in
the
general
fund.
Is
money
left
over
after
all
other
expenditures?
It's
basically
savings
money,
that's
unencumbered!
It's
available
for
whatever
you
want
in
the
general
fund.
That's
money
left
over
and
how
much
money
do
we
have
well
currently
8.8
million.
E
G
E
A
A
This
is
the
fund
that
we
use
to
actually
help
the
local
businesses
in
fact
buy
the
pedemics.
So
what
is
the
requirement
of
the
understanding
fund
just
so
that
people
would
know.
A
So
we're
about
three
3.8
million
dollars
over.
We
should
have
so
we.
A
E
E
So,
yes,
we
are
seeing
a
decline
in
our
in
our
penny.
Sales
tax
monies.
E
A
Thank
you,
that's
all
I
have
I'd
like
to.
Are
there
any
commission
comments
on
the
presentation
vice
mayor,
carr.
H
Thanks
mayor,
if
you
could
just
help
me
understand
the
flow
of
the
meeting
tonight,.
A
A
Yes,
first,
we
have
the
proposed
budget,
which
he
was
just
in
the
presentation
which
was
done
by
mr
herrick.
Then
I
will
ask
the
the
chair
of
the
budget
advisory
committee
to
to
be
on.
You
know
to
give
us
his
recommendations
from
the
from
the
committee.
Then
we're
gonna
go
to
the
general
fund
after
that,
cip
and
cra.
If
tommy's
permitted.
I
Okay,
so
I've
got
some
questions
about
debt.
Should
I
ask
that
now
or
in
the
general.
A
Well,
that
that
would
be
enterprise
fund.
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
cover
that
today.
H
I
Yeah
ron,
you
mentioned
that
there's
1.4
million
dollars
in
the
penny
fund
that
isn't
allocated
yet.
Is
there
anything
the
general
fund
that's
not
allocated
based
on
the
budget
presented.
E
E
G
Thank
you,
mayor
ron.
I
really
appreciate
your
presentation.
I
remember
a
number
of
years
ago
when,
when
arie
finally
decided
to
decided
to
retire-
and
you
took
the
reins
and
and
to
me
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
breath
of
fresh
air.
So
I'm
always
appreciative
every
budget
cycle
of
you
and
your
presentation,
and
you
know
how
you
control
the
city
so
to
speak.
I
did
notice
in
your
presentation
or
at
least
in
the
budget.
G
It
looks
like
you've
kind
of
tweaked
it
in
such
a
way
where
you've
added
some
some
definitions
and
some
meanings
ahead
of
certain
slides
and
pages
in
the
budget,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
nice.
I
haven't
noticed
that
in
years
past
I
did
have
just
a
couple
questions
off
the
bat
as
observations
before
we
get
into
the
the
meat
of
the
discussion
on
the
water
and
sewer
fund.
I
see
this
year's
18
million
in
change.
E
It's
mostly
been
in
the
capital
projects
and
the
that
have
hadn't
been
done.
You
know
probably
know
the
water
plant
started
in
2015
came
online.
E
Yes,
well,
we've
had
our
we've
had
the
10-year
rate
increases
and
we
which
the
one
that
expired
just
I
think
two
years
ago
now
we're
at
the
rate
increases
where
we
went
down
from
what
we
were
before
we
went
to
a
four
percent
rate
increase
this
year
was
2.75
and
the
current
plan
is
2.75
for
the
next.
I
think
until
2028.
G
Okay,
I
think
most
everything
else
I
have,
I
guess
I'll
hold
until
we
start
talking
about
the
the
budgets
aside
from
just
the
presentation.
So
I
appreciate
your
presentation
tonight.
J
Yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
ron
for
the
detailed
presentation.
I
think
I'll
save
most
of
my
comments.
Moving
forward
for
the
for
the
proposed
budget
assumptions
like
for
an
insurance
decrease,
for
example,
how
does
that
work
from
your
end
just
handling
the
budget
once
you
realize
that
we're
not
going
to
spend
as
much
money
as
insurance
on
insurance?
E
Well,
in
this
case,
it
helped
to
pay.
For
you
know
the
pay
increases
we
had
budgeted.
We
had
originally
budgeted
a
10
increase,
we
didn't
know
what
it
was
going
to
come
to
and
then,
when
we
found
out
it
was
gonna
go
down
two
percent.
You
know
we
had
about
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
swing.
We
had
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
increase
in
health
insurance
and
dental,
and
then
it
came,
went
down
to
like
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
decrease.
D
E
J
Another
thing,
I
think
would
be
would
be
neat
to
see
in
future
presentations,
or
maybe
at
one
of
our
upcoming
work
sessions,
would
just
be
able
to
to
give
the
staff
a
chance
to
kind
of
brag
about.
You
know
how
they
did
some
of
their
savings
or
how
they
saved
budget
money.
J
I
know
you
mentioned
that
they've
made
sacrifices
in
their
own
budgets,
just
knowing
that
you
know
due
to
the
pandemic
and
everything
it's
going
to
be
a
tighter
year,
something
that
comes
to
mind
for
me
would
be
like
our
it
department
and
us
building
the
website.
Our
new
website
from
within
you
know
that
saved
us.
Nearly
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
you
know
without
having
to
go
to
a
consultant
or
something
like
that.
J
K
Thanks
mayor
ron,
I'm
you
know.
Actually
this
is
my
first
time
around
and
some
things
changed
from
a
long
time
ago
in
the
cip,
in
your
presentation
and
in
the
book,
the
thin
book,
the
the
executive
summary
I
don't
see
anything
for
sanitation
or
stormwater
in
the
capital
improvement
program
in
the
five-year
plan.
Am
I
missing
it
or
or
is
it
in
there?
I
don't
see
it.
K
Page
119
yeah,
all
right
and
and
the
sanitation.
K
Okay,
how
are
you
I
think,
I'm
okay
on
the
presentation,
except
for
one
last
question.
The
justification
that
you
say
is
is
the
the
detail.
Is
that
correct?
After
in
the
in
the
large
book,
the
three
three
ring
binder?
That's
the
detail
after
the
revenue
and
just
kind
of
going
through
the
line
item,
and
then
you've
got
the
ex
individuals
by
their
own
salaries,
and
things
is
that
what
you
mean
by
the
justification.
E
Yeah
the
detail,
the
big
three
ring
binder:
it's
a
combination
of
four
reports:
it's
the
revenue
reports,
expenditure
line,
item
reports
and
then
justifications
which
are
justifications
of
those
expenditure
line
items
and
then
there's
a
personnel
payroll
page
which
shows
the
positions,
their
salary,
their
benefits
and
the
total
cost
of
of
that
position.
If.
A
Mr
davis,
mr
dave
panther
are
you
there.
L
Okay,
make
sure
there's
no
video
on
this
hold
on
okay,
great.
Yes,
we
only
have
one
recommendation,
one
official
motion,
but
it
relates
to
the
enterprise
fund.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
y'all
wanted
that
you
know
you
know
at
this
time.
L
Okay,
well,
first
off.
Thank
you
amer
mayor
and
commissioners
for
allowing
us
to
you
know,
search
sir
serve
for
you.
We
have
a
great,
diverse
board
of
professionals
that
you
know
has
met
starting
in
the
spring
after
the
summer
and
has
advised
on
on
the
budget.
We
got
to
meet
with
all
the
department
heads
and
they
gave
us
some
great
recommendations
and-
and
we
gave
them
some
great
some
great
thoughts
and
all
receptive
to
our
responses.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
staff,
especially
ron
and
michelle.
L
As
far
as
the
enterprise
funds
go,
I
believe
I
believe
vice
mayor
carr
asked
us
to
look
into
the
administrative
charges
that
are
that
that
are
that
are
part
of
the
enterprise
funds
upon
reviewing
those
the
process
and
talking
to
ron
herring.
We
did
not
see
any
issues.
Unlike
our
end,
so
we
made
a
simple
request.
I'm
not
sure
if
it
ever
made
it
back
to
to
vice
mayor
carr
is
that
if
he
has
some
more
specific
examples
of
some
concerns
he
has
as
it
relates
to
admin
charges.
L
We
would
be
happy
to
to
to
review
that
further,
but
we
don't
have
any
specific
concerns
on
at
this.
L
Time
so
that
was
our
only
official
motion
of
the
you
know
of
our
meetings,
everything
else
we
were
in
agreement
with
on
the
budget.
We
think
it's
a
sound
budget
again,
while
no
motion
or
consensus
was
taken
as
to
the
to
the
millage
rate.
I
I
I
believe
the
board
is
in
support
of
keeping
the
millage
rate,
as
is
and
is
in
support
of
of
the
current
budget,
and
you
know
we're
obviously
impressed
that
there's
no
use
of
the
reserve
fund
at
this
time.
A
Mr
panther,
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
you
for
your
service
also.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
budget
advisory
committee
for
their
hard
work,
the
dedication
and
for
working
so
hard
to
analyze
each
line
item
of
the
budget
and
make
it
so
much
easier
for
us
to
review
and
to
approve
the
budget
for
2021
again.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
vice
mayor
card,
do
you
have
any
comments.
I
No
other
than
just
thank
you
very
much
for
your
service
and
your
volunteering,
your
time
and
the
rest
of
the
board
too.
So
thank
you
for
your
help.
G
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
I
would
just
say
the
same:
just
echo,
my
thanks
to
mr
banter,
and
also
the
entire
board,
certainly
appreciate
him
sharing
the
board
and
I
do
agree.
I
think
this
is
one
of
our
one
of
our
best
budget
advisory
groups
in
terms
of
diversity
and
professionalism.
G
K
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
you,
mr
panther,
and
the
rest
of
the
committee
for
reviewing
the
budget.
I
just
had
one
comment.
Actually
it's
related
to
mr
banter's
comment
on
the
enterprise
fund
transfers
we're
going
to
get
to
that
not
this
evening
right.
K
Some
questions
on
that
as
well
and
I'm
hoping
vice
mayor
carr
is
certainly
not
going
to
be
discouraged
from
making
his
confidence
at
the
appropriate
time
as
well.
Is
that
correct
we're
going
to
address
the
enterprise
funds
transfers
at
a
later
date
or
we're
going
to
discuss
it
in
the
revenue
section
tonight?
The.
A
The
enterprise
fund
is
probably
going
to
be
in
the
next
workshop.
Okay.
K
Including
the
the
enterprise
fund
transfers
are
part
of
the
revenue
for
the
general
fund
and
I
think
that's
what
commissioner
vice
mayor.
Carr
was
getting
at
and-
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
waiting
until
the
end
of
response,
because
it's
in
that
as
well
as
far
as
a
transfer
back
to
the
to
the
general
fund
and-
and
I
would
I
think,
we've
got
a
full
plate
tonight
with
just
going
over
the
general
fund
without
getting
an
enterprise
fund
transfer.
So
we
probably
better.
A
A
Also
I'd
like
to
for
us
to
be
able
to
cover
the
cip
as
well
tonight
if
it's
possible.
Okay,
if
you
all
agree
with
that.
A
Well,
whatever
we
have
like
every
meeting,
we
have
this
211,
but
if
you
want
to
set
a
a
time
limit,
that's
fine.
K
G
H
A
A
First
I'd
like
to
say
that
I'm
very
pleased
that
we
keeping
the
same
millage
of
the
5.37
and
also
I'm
very
pleased
that
the
health
insurance
that
we
discussed
tuesday
night,
which
is
the
number
one
benefit
of
our
employees.
We
have
a
two
percent
reduction
marketing,
which
is
so
important
to
our
local
economy,
especially
now
with
the
pandemic
crisis.
Mr
liquors,
do
you
have?
Can
you
tell
us
what
marketing
campaign
plans
do
you
have
this
year.
F
B
Hi,
yes,
thank
you
for
the
the
question
we
intend
to
continue
with
our
explore.
Tarpon
springs
campaign
we
currently
have.
As
you
know,
our
rediscover
campaign
is
in
process
of
the
television
ads
and
we've
had
some
newspapers
and
social.
N
B
The
pandemic
has
taken
a
little
longer
than
I
think
many
of
us
have
expected,
but
our
plans
start
a
later
date
again.
B
And
piggybacking
on
those
efforts
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
continuing
the
billboard,
continuing
the
social
media,
continuing
the
television
and
newspaper
ads,
we
made
the
video
from
our
previous
video
that
we've
had
we've
been
running
those
ads
both
on
television
and
on
they
pop
up
in
your
digital
feeds.
So
those
are
many
of
the
items
that
we
expect
to
continue
moving
forward.
A
B
B
They're
involved
not
from
a
financial
standpoint
and,
as
you
know,
the
fine
arts
festival
gave
a
big
hit
to
them,
so
I
don't
see
them
financially
assisting,
but
they
have
been
helping
us
with
getting
the
word
out
and
social
media
and
other
in-kind
types
of
things
that
they
can
help
with.
Thank
you.
A
I
I
Moving
forward
into
2021,
we
have
a
lot
of
large
properties
that
are
in
dire
need
of
redevelopment
or
development.
Is
there
any
goals
from
the
economic
development
department
to
to
market
these
throughout
to
developers
outside
of
this
tarpon
springs
area.
B
Yeah
I
mean
that's,
been
an
ongoing
project
for
us,
both
the
vacant
parcels
and
with
a
lot
of
the
infill
parcels.
You
know,
along
up
and
down
alt
19,
there's
a
lot
of
parcels
that
are
underdeveloped
and
not
particularly
vacant.
B
The
manatee
plaza,
as
you
know,
is
now
for
sale
and
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
inquiries
on
on
that
project.
So
we're
we're
heartened
by
that,
but
yeah
we
continue.
We
use
loot
net
co-star.
We
continue
to
work
with
not
only
our
local
developers
but
regional
as
well
attending
the
icsc
and
all
of
the
fedc
and
all
the
the
conferences.
Obviously
right
now
there
aren't
any,
but
there's
a
lot
of
virtual
meetings
that
we've
been
having
with
our
regional
partners
and
and
statewide
economic
development
partners.
B
So
we
we're
continuing
that
we're
also
doing
a
survey
of
our
of
our
businesses
that
we're
using
for
assistance
from
the
pandemic.
What
what
they
learned
from
it
were
they
prepared
were
they
not
did
they
lay
off
people?
What
are
some
things
that
could
help
them
moving
forward?
If
and
when
sometimes
happen
again,
so
we've
been
working
on
those
efforts
as
well.
O
B
Yeah,
because
what
I
mean
we
can
create
those
brochures,
and-
and
you
know
you
don't
really
mail
things
out
anymore,
so
it's
email
and
putting
them
out
online
so
that
that's
worked
very
well
so
yeah.
I
think
we've
got
the
money
that
we
need
and
we've
been
using
constant
contact
and
a
lot
of
those
other
platforms
for
doing
surveys
and
things,
so
it
isn't
anything
that
has
any
additional
costs
at
this
point.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
commission
comments
on
this
issue
on
this
item
on
marketing.
G
Thanks
karen
thanks
for
your
hard
work
and
what
you
do
and
definitely
a.
G
Time
now
for
businesses,
do
you
feel
that-
and
this
is
a
similar
question
kind
of
the
commissioner
cars?
Do
you
feel
that
the
money
that
was
budgeted
last
year
that
you
spent
was
well
spent
and
then
also,
if
your
you
know,
resources
were
unlimited
and
you
had
more
funds
to
spend.
Where
would
you
focus.
B
B
If,
if,
if
things
were
unlimited,
I'd
like
to
see
more
more
studies
to
be
able
to
be
done,
that
we
could
reach
out
further
with
some
professional
consultants
to
do
some,
perhaps
some
additional
work.
You
know
we
talked
about
the
cra
plan,
update
I'd
love
to
see
something
like
that
being
done.
Just
some
data
research
that
we're
not
able
to
do
here,
we've
reached
out
to
pinellas
county
to
help
with
some
data,
but
that's
all
going
to
be
new
and
different.
B
Now,
with
the
pandemic,
hitting
what
kinds
of
trends
we're
going
to
see.
Moving
forward,
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
our
residential
apartments,
town
homes,
condos
single
family
homes,
looking
at
potential
foreclosures
and
what's
going
to
happen,
moving
forward
with
with
people.
So
you
know
the
trends
are
kind
of
the
things
that
that
we're
looking
at
and
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
plan
for
when,
when
we
get
some
kind
of
new,
normal
or
normal
back
again,.
A
Thank
you,
commission
donovan.
Do
you
have
any
questions
on
that
or
comments
yeah.
J
Real
quick,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
miss
lemons,
for
all
that
you
do.
I
know
this
is
probably
the
the
most
unique
situation
any
economic
development
managers
found
themselves
in.
I
know
it's
been
tough.
I
just
had
questions
in
terms
that
survey
you
had
mentioned.
I
just
want
to
know
when
that
was
going
to
go
out
and
how
we
were
trying
to
reach
people.
B
Yeah,
we've
we've
had
it
out
now
for
a
couple
months
and
I
keep
putting
it
out.
B
K
A
Things
each
each
commissioner
has
is
all
probably
his
own
issues
and
items
and
questions
he
wants
to
have
all
right.
If
you're,
not
if
you're,
not
interested
in
marketing,
you
don't
have
to
comment
no.
K
A
My
next
question
is
on
the
hotel
tax.
What
can
we
do
to
receive
some
of
the
hotel
tax
that
goes
to
pinellas
county?
I
brought
it
up
last
year.
Also
vice
mayor
carr
did
as
well
is
any
way
that
we
can
go
to
pinellas
county
and
see
if
we
can
receive
some
of
the
taxes
that
they're
getting.
B
But
you
know
the
bed
tax
is
a
whole
different
issue
in
terms
of
of
how
that's
how
that's
distributed
throughout
each
community,
we
don't
have
any
large
hotels.
B
So
that's
you
know
we
get
back
whatever
percentage
of
our
hotel
population
is,
but
if
you're
talking
about
the
other
types
of
funds
that
are
funded
through
the
bed
tax,
you
know
it.
Funds
visit
st
clearwater
pension
and
visitors
bureau
and
it
it
funds
some
of
those
other
grants
that
put
on
festivals
and
events,
and,
as
you
know,
we've
talked
about
that
in
the
past.
B
Our
festivals
and
events
don't
have
the
the
reach
and
the
population
and
the
requirements
that
to
date
that
those
grant
requirements
allow
for
you
know
there
all
have
to
be
paid
events
they
need.
You
need
to
show
your
your
number
of
bed
taxes.
You
need
to
show
the
number
of
visitors
coming
from
out
of
state.
You
know
they're
for
the
larger
the
larger
events,
so
that's
why
we
haven't
had
any
of
those
types
of
grants
coming
to
us
at
this
point.
One.
A
Of
the
subjects
that
we
talked
last
last
year
about
that
it
was
the
epiphany
celebration
we,
you
know,
we
have
at
least
20
000
people
coming
to
tarpon
springs,
and
that
should
be
large
enough
to
qualify
for
something
like
that.
Would
you
think.
B
Yes,
but
again,
that's
not
a
paid
event.
It's
a
free
event,
so
one
of
one
of
those
criteria
is
that
it's
a
paid
event.
Okay,.
A
Vice
ver,
you
had
a
question
on
that
last
year.
Do
you
you
want
to
comment
on
that?
You
have
something
to
do
with
the
anglo
river.
I
Yeah,
I
remember
talking
to
I
think,
the
chair
at
the
time
of
the
of
the
pinellas
bed
tax
and
they
looked
into
if
dredging
was
available
for
the
river
funds
and
the
backup
said
it
was
and
their
whatever
their
pamphlet
says
or
talks
about
it.
But
then
they
reached
out
to
their
attorney
and
they
said
they
couldn't
allocate
the
funds
to
a
dredge
project.
I
I
mean
I
would
like
that
to
be
a
goal
for
2021
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
capture
some
of
these
hotel
bed.
Taxes
for
tarpon
springs.
I
believe
the
economic
study
that
the
pinellas
county
helped
pay
for
for
the
dredge
said
that
tarpon
springs
produces
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
hotel
bed
tax.
I
know
that's
not
equivalent
to
like
a
a
clear
water,
beach
string
of
hotels
with
like
a
ton
of
visitors
that
say
out
there,
but
I
think
that's
at
least
it's
something
right.
I
So
if
there's
something
that
we
can
do
to
to
capture
a
little
bit
of
that
back,
I'm
happy
to
go
meet
with
whoever
we
need
to
meet
with
the
to
ask
and
request
it.
It
might
be
good
just
to
start
off
with
getting
us
a
their
pamphlet
of
what
they
actually
will
fund
a
little
more
detail
than
just
like
a
high
level
for
events
to
figure
out
how
we
could
utilize
that
maybe
for
additional
marketing
expenses
or
just
even
projects
in
our
city,.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
commission
comments
of
this
hotel
tax.
J
A
The
next
item
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
the
paid
increase
we
budgeted.
Three
percent
increase
for
all
the
employees.
When
I
was
first
elected
as
a
commission
back
in
2007,
we
had
a
problem
keeping
employees
because
the
salaries
were
very
low
over
the
years.
The
salaries
have
been
improved.
A
A
F
F
We
followed
the
other
cities
every
year
that
we've
done
the
study
and
we've
done
the
appropriate
raises
now
that
that
that's
far
as
total,
the
you
know
the
the
total,
whether
some
individual
positions
or
in
the
v
there
may
be
some
differences
in
in
looking
at
some
of
the
positions
and
that
have
branched
out
from
it,
maybe
from
other
places.
F
That
may
be
the
only
thing
we
are
lacking,
but
as
a
whole,
we're
keeping
up
with
the
rest
rest
of
the
county,
but
but
again
it
may
there
may
be
individual
positions
or
or
group
positions
that
that
we
could
have
got
behind
on.
A
Is
any
way
that
you
can
provide
us
the
that
information
for
the
next
budget
workshop,
so
we
can
discuss
it.
F
F
We
can
look
if
you
remember
before
we
were
helped
greatly,
because
the
florida
league
of
cities
did
a
salary
survey
every
year
and
we
had
the
advantage
of
having
the
salaries
of
all
over
the
state,
and
I
think
that
ended
in
2015
or
16,
which
really
hampered
us
really
keeping
individually,
not
group
wise
of
the
city
and
the
salary
ranges.
It
really
hampered
us,
because
that
was
a
great
tool
to
look
all
over
the
state
of
places
our
size
places
in
our
area
and
see
a
comparison.
F
So
we
can
do
a
quick
look
to
see
and
what
we'd
be
looking
for.
If
we
can
see
anything,
that's
gone
kind
of
out
of
whack,
but
those
studies
take
months
and
months
to
do
even
to
do
a
house
like
that
was
another
thing
back
2015.
Whenever
we
did
it,
another
city
did
the
study
for
sixty
thousand
dollars
and
we
did
a
house
for
for
nothing
and
have
kept
up
with
it.
F
A
Well,
isn't
it
next
week
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
salaries,
tuesday,
tuesday
next
tuesday,
brother
right
so
yeah?
That
will
be
very
useful.
I
think
thank
you
very
much.
A
K
Yeah,
of
course,
the
I
I
sent
you
a
memorandum
on
the
cpi,
the
consumer
price
index,
and
it's
gonna
be
about
two
percent,
or
at
least
that's
what
it's
been
running
and
there's
some
wiggle
room
in
that,
and
I've
noticed
just
a
general
comment
and
going
through
the
departments,
and
I
think
the
city
manager
and
the
finance
staff
has
done
an
excellent
job
of
keeping
the
costs
down
in
order
to
come
in
line
with
our
projected
revenues.
So
I
don't
have
any
issue
with
that.
K
K
Yet
the
personnel
are
getting
a
three
percent
raise,
which
is
fine,
except
it's
at
the
expense
of
not
doing
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
should
be
done,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
whatever
we
do
with
this
budget,
it's
it's
balance
between
both
salaries
and
what
we
provide
the
residents
and
and
that's
why
I've
got
some
questions
on
some
of
these
departments
in
that
regard,
so
I
don't
necessarily
have
a
a
problem
with
three
percent
last
year,
three
percent
was
justified
because
the
cpi
came
in
at
about
that
level
this
year.
K
It's
not
coming
in
at
that,
and
this
whole
matter
of
salaries
is
all
recurring
costs
we're
going
to
be
paying
for
that
for
now
on.
So
I
really
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
do
some
kind
of
a
salary
review
as
you
describe
mayor,
but
I
also
think
that
there's
some,
I
don't
want
to
call
them
issues,
but
some
questions
I
have
as
far
as
making
sure
that
the
employees
are
taken
care
of,
but
also
making
sure
that
our
our
basic
needs
are
being
accommodated
as
well
in
this
budget.
Thank
you
and
I'll.
K
Wait
till
we
get
until
next
tuesday
night
on
specific
things,
but
if
we
start
hitting
on
these
departments
tonight,
I've
got
some
specific
questions
in
that
regard
too.
Thank
you.
A
Meeting
anybody
any
other
commission
comments.
A
No
okay,
I
have
some
small
items
that
would
like
to
include
to
the
general
fund
expenditures
with
consensus
of
the
board.
Of
course,
as
we
all
know,
in
tarpon
springs,
a
large
percentage
of
our
population
are
seniors,
and
I
think
I
discussed
that
in
one
of
the
meetings
several
months
ago
that
we
need
to
have
a
senior
center
and
talking
to
mr
lakers,
he
believes
that
there's
an
area
in
the
community
center
we
can
actually
use,
but
we
need
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
make
that
happen.
A
So
I
like
to
include
that
to
the
to
the
budget
this
year,
that
will
be
part
of
the
public
works.
Thirty
thousand
dollars
for
the
senior
center
be
part
of
our
the
community
center.
I
believe
our
seniors
deserve
that
mr
lee
curtis.
Do
you
want
to
comment
about?
What
do
you
think
we
should
do
with
what
kind
of
enhancement
we
need
to
do
to
this
area?
There.
F
The
the
plans
that
we're
looking
at
is
taking
an
area
of
the
center
and
we
probably
make
offices
it'd,
probably
be
it'd,
probably
be
a
public
works
office
with
possibly
offices
and
and
rearranging
the
room
in
the
area
we'd
go
by.
I
I
gave
you
the
third
that's
kind
of
rough
estimate
of
tom
from
tom
function
about
what
we
may
be
able
to
do
over
there
to
get
us
started.
F
So
I
know
there
was
talk
about
a
different
building,
a
different
place
or
doing
anything,
but
I
think
we've
learned
from
the
library
with
it
being
there
that
you
know
we
would
be
able
to
accommodate.
Plus
the
recreation
is
working.
One
of
the
things
they've
been
working
on
since
we
began
with
seniors
is
working
on
more
programs
for
seniors
within
the
community
center,
so
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
when
the
pandemic
leaves
a
lot
more
activities
and
different
and
different
things
geared
strictly
to
seniors.
F
That's
one
of
the
major
reasons
why
the
dance
classes
were
to
give
an
amount
of
time
and
told
to
find
their
own
places
because
they're
occupying
a
lot
of
the
areas
and
we're
going
to
have
senior
programming
and
other
programming
for
kids
that
are
coming
in
there
and
stuff.
So
so
that's
what
we're
looking
for,
and
probably
it's
just
a
lot
in
in-house
building
type
things,
maybe
making
an
office
out
of
a
bigger
area
with
a
conference
room
there.
F
H
F
The
library
and
do
the
community
center
in
conjunction
with
the
activities
and
additional
classes
and
things
we're
doing
there,
then
and
that's
what
what
we
think
the
best
the
most
economic
way
to
to
do.
It
would
be.
A
Well,
what
I'm
looking
is
for
a
place
where
the
seniors
can
actually
gather
and
get
in
information
plus
socializing
every
city
has
that
I
don't
that
it
has
a
huge
place
on
douglas
avenue.
I
think
it's
going
to
work
perfectly
on
in
the
community
center.
We
have
the
recreation
area
and
many
other
programs
that
already
in
place
so
they
can
participate.
I
A
We
there
are
some
extra
money
in
the
general
fund
that
will
be
available
for
that.
Okay,
mr
licorice,
can
you
help
with
this
yeah?
I
think
mr.
F
F
You
say
tonight
also
besides
that
240,
if
if
there
are
items
that
goes
over,
that
we
go
back
before
the
next
budget
meeting
and
look
if
there's
any
areas,
we
can
enhance
that
from
from
what's
in
the
budget
now,
so
I
think
you're
talking
about
and
usually
like
last
year,
the
years
passed
ron
will
keep
a
running
list
and
he'll
have
his
240
or
whatever
it
is,
and
if
you
say
30
000
here
then
he'll
do
an
additional
list
down.
F
If
that
money
gets
committed,
then
it's
up
to
us
to
come
back
for
the
next
meeting
on
consensus
items
and
see
if
we
can
find
it
and
let
you
know
where
it
may
fit
in
the
budget
or
if
you
want
us
to
cut
something
to
put
your
item
into
the
budget.
I
Okay
can
mayor?
Can
you
just
help
me
understand
what
a
senior
center
is?
Is
it
like
an
alternative
to
like
going
to
the
coffee
shop
and
hanging
out
it's
an
area
where
seniors
would
be
able
to
go
to
or
I
wouldn't
be
allowed,
because
I'm
in
my
30s.
A
Well,
it's
not
really
a
coffee
shop,
type
environment,
it's
a
place
that
actually,
yes,
they
go
there
and
socialize,
but
also
a
place
where
they
can.
They
have
different.
You
know
different
information,
different
speakers
who
began
to
go
there
to
talk
to
them
and
different
ways
to
stay
healthy.
You
know.
I
So
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
support
a
senior
center.
I
think
the
community
center
is
the
best
place
to
have
it
if
there's
gonna
be
one
from
like
the
budget
standpoint,
I
mean
I've
got
a
list
of
stuff
that
I
would
like
to
see
included
in
the
budget
as
well,
and
I
know
some
other
commissioners
probably
do
as
well
too
again
mayor.
I
want
to
support
you
in
this
endeavor.
A
Well
then,
what
we
should
do
is
we
go
ahead
and
you
know
place
our
request
and
then
we
can
go
prioritize.
All
the
other
things
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
with
the
240
thousand
dollars
is
enough
money
to
cover
all
of
them.
A
F
A
F
F
I
remember
last
year
before
that's
where
we
added
that
extra
market
and
money
is
so,
we
would
discuss
those
and
we
will
list
all
those
tonight,
whether
you
do
it.
You
know
go
to
the
five
of
you
and
you
do
your
list
now
or
as
you
go
through
the
the
general
fund
budget,
when
when
you
get
the
apartment
like
karen's
or
somebody
by
the
way
in
this
department,
this
is
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
see
added.
F
That's
usually
up
to
you
know
the
mayor
and
the
board
to
figure
out
what
process
you
use
to
to
get
ron,
and
I
the
list.
So
we
see
how
much
it
is
and
if
we
sometimes
we
don't
have
to
prioritize
it,
because
if
it's
over,
we
can
go
back
and
before
you,
for
instance,
that
tuesday
night's
meeting
we
can
tell
you
where
there's
some
areas
where
you
get
the
money,
maybe-
and
you
know,
of
changing
something
out
that
you
think
is
more
important,
so
there's
several
ways
to
do
it.
F
F
Well,
what
we
probably
need
is
we're
thinking
again
we
haven't
done
this
out,
we're
thinking
we
need
to
build
the
office.
We've
got
the
volunteers
there
at
that
are
in
a
room
at
the
library.
That's
the
one
that
helps
the
seniors
answer.
The
phone
calls
they're
coming
with
a
problem,
so
we're
probably
taking
one
of
the
one
of
the
side
rooms.
I
think
the
one
when
you
walk
in
and
go
to
the
far
north,
it
would
possibly
make
an
office
space
within
there
and
then
have
a
conference
area
outside
it.
Again.
F
F
If
we're
doing
talks,
if
we're
doing
dances
for
senior,
I
know
we
had
a
dance
night
for
seniors
in
the
bigger
rooms,
but
as
far
as
where
the
volunteer,
the
senior
volunteers,
that
we
train
and
stuff
run,
their
offices
out
of
and
meeting
rooms
or
or
something
for
that
it'd
be
converting
it'd,
be
conferring
a
present
room
to
meet
those
needs
and
meet.
F
Those
office
needs,
for
instance,
seniors,
come
in
and
are
talking
about
a
sensitive
thing,
an
office
to
go
and
close
the
door
and
and
do
we'd
have
to
build
that,
because
there's
no
office.
H
H
G
I
just
I
just
have
a
suggestion
mayor,
I'm
sure
not
so
much
on
the
senior
center,
but
more
so
as
it
relates
to
some
of
this
discretionary.
You
know
spending
we're
talking
about.
I
find
that
you
know
in
years
past.
If
we
go
through
the
budget
in
its
entirety.
You
know
it
naturally
there's
going
to
be
some
things
that
we're
going
to
redline
or
things
that
we're
going
to
want
to
spend
more
money
on
and
then
once
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
budget
and
we
see
where
all
the
ships
fall.
G
A
We
can
do
that,
the
I
guess
the
next
budget
or
a
budget
meeting
or
the
next,
the
following
one.
F
Remember
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
if
we
gotta
look
and
find
other
places
between
now
and
tuesday
or
if
we
go
to
the
third
meeting
on
monday,
the
sooner
we
get
to
those,
and
we
know
what
the
scope
of
them
is.
You
know
how
much
we're
talking
about
on
different
things.
The
sooner
we
know
that
the
sooner
we
can
come
back
and
and
put
together
what
we
can
do
for
it.
K
I
am
mayor,
may
I
have
commissioner
donovan,
do
you
have
anything?
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
and
I
guess
you
would
be
next
in
line.
J
No
you're-
fine,
I
just
all
I
wanted
to
add-
was
that
I
think
it'd
be
best
if
we
all
identified
some
of
those
general
fund
projects
that
we
as
individual
commissioners
would
like
to
see
up
front
that
way,
staff
could
get
a
gauge
of
kind
of
you
know
how
expansive
or
how
non-expansive
things
are,
and
I
don't
want
to
craft.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
set
the
budget
and
then
see
what
of
our
own
ideas
we
can
squeeze
into
it.
I'd
rather,
do
it
opposite?
G
K
Mayor
I've,
I've
already
provided
the
city
manager.
I
think
I
copied
you
as
well,
not
just
you
but
the
other
commissioners.
As
far
as
some
of
the
things
I
was
looking
at
for
the
sponge
talks
in
the
downtown
and
that
247
000
amount
is
somewhat
it's
it's,
it's
not
a
real
amount,
there's
some
things
that
we've
already
approved
in
the
last
couple
of
meetings,
boc
meetings
that
are
going
to
be
deducted
from
that.
Unless
I'm
mistaken,
I
don't
believe
I
am
such
as
the
internal
auditor's
salary.
E
There's
there's
nothing
in
the
current
budget,
but
I
guess
from
what
I
was
saying
I
didn't
know
if
you'd
be
hiring
a
person
before
the
september
30th,
so
in
the
current
year,
there's
nothing
budgeted,
but
on
the
budget
we're
working
on.
Yes,
there
is
money
budget
for
an
internal
auditor.
K
K
Some
of
these
things
have
been
split
apart.
I
think
between
commissioner
and
commissioner
donovan.
I
think
that's
the
best
approach,
I'm
not
ready
to
agree
to
any
program
tonight
or
any
recommendation
by
any
commissioner
until
we
really
find
out
what
everybody
wants,
because
I've
got
some
ideas,
but
there's
no
doubt
that
other
commissioners
are
equally
as
important,
and
I
may
even
be
more
than
happy
to
cooperate
in
that
regard.
K
In
other
words,
I
might
see
that
they're,
seeing
something
that
I
haven't
that
are
much
more
important
than
what
I've
got,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
start
agreeing
to
30
000
here
and
15
000
there.
At
this
point.
Until
I
see
what
everybody's
got
in
mind,
we
may
even
have
some
duplication
amongst
ourselves
as.
A
Well,
okay:
well,
I
will
go
ahead
and
continue
on
what
I
was
doing
and
then
we
you
know,
we
add
up
and
see
how
much
money
is
that
going
to
be,
and
then
we
work
on
that.
I
If
you
look
at
the
executive
book,
it's
page
48
and
49
and
50,
it
has
the
different
positions
that
are
split
and
it
gives
her
total
salaries
in
there,
because
if
you
go
off
to
three-ring
binder,
it's
difficult
to
actually
come
up
with
the
individual
salaries
that
way
and
ron
did
a
good
job
a
couple
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
vice
mayor
banter
at
that
time,
had
him
put
something
together
that
shows
the
total
salary
split
between
the
different
funds.
So
it's
a
pretty
good
summary.
There.
K
But
you
know,
and,
and
you
know
the
the
internal
auditor
being
split-
I
mean
I'd
like
to
hear
the
justification
for
that,
but
tonight's,
not
the
night.
To
do
that,
I
mean
he
plays
back
your
enterprise
punch
some
transfers.
This
is
another
way
of
transferring
money
out
of
this
water
and
sewer
account
into
the
general
fund.
How
do
we
call
the
internal
auditor's
salary
being
split
in
the
past,
and
maybe
that
would
see
something
that
mr
herring
could
enlighten
me
or
if
anyone
else
is
interested.
K
Maybe
I
can
do
that
offline
with
him,
but
I
I
think
this
is
a
very
important
effort
that
we're
doing-
and
I
fully
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
under
covid
right
now
and
it's
hampered
our
efforts
to
get
to
this
point
and
also
know
we're
pressed
for
time
because
of
the
trim
notice
and
also
having
a
budget
by
in
passing
the
resolutions
or
ordinances
that
we
need
to
in
order
to
have
it
in
place
by
october
1st.
I
understand
that,
but
but
I'm
just
right
now,
it's
just.
K
I
don't
see,
as
I
see
us
kind
of
like
you
know,
I'm
the
last
man
on
the
totem
pole.
As
far
as
commissioners.
That's
fine,
but
it's
like
by
the
time
it
gets
to
me
it's
going
to
be
9.25.
I
It's
been
more
of
a
high
level
with
the
executive
summary
and
the
combination
of
the
book,
so
I
think
we
individually
will
call
out
the
different
line
items
that
we're
interested
in,
but
we
don't
have
to
talk
about
each
one
to
conserve
time
and,
to
be
honest,
there's
really
no
reason
to
talk
about
each
line
item
in
our
meeting
tonight.
No.
K
I
don't
mean
line
by
line
department
by
my
department
by
department
by
your
car.
That's
what
I
was
talking
about
and
I
don't
have
a
question
on
every
department,
but
just
some
of
them.
I
do
and
that's
fine
I'll,
just
go
I'll
just
go
with
what
everybody
else
has
got
accustomed
to
and
we'll
see
where
it
leads
tonight.
K
A
Well,
the
next
thing
that
I
want
to
to
make
sure
that
it
goes
on
the
budget
is,
if
everybody
agrees
to
it
is
a
3
000
donation
to
the
neighborly
care,
which
is
meals
on
whales,
would
do
that
we
did
it
last
year
as
well
and
another
three
thousand
dollars
contribution
to
the
homeless
leadership
alliance.
A
This
is
the
the
board
that
commissioner
donovan
is
serving
on.
A
And
also
just
a
month
ago,
we
we
voted
to
to
go
through
the
process
to
include
three
sister
cities
into
our
sister
city
program,
so
the
our
city
attorney
is
working
to
create
a
sister
city
program,
our
policy
and
procedure.
As
you
remember,
I
think
we
should
have
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
the
expenses
for
the
three
sister
cities
to
be.
You
know
to
be
to
be
part
of
our
program.
A
Now
the
question
is
how
it
was
financed
in
the
past
a
lot
of
them.
A
lot
of
the
expenses
were
done
here
by
diff
nonprofit
organizations.
Also,
I
all
the
expenses
that
I
had
going
overseas
and
talking
to
different
people.
I
paid
that
on
my
pocket,
so
I
don't
expect
the
next
person
who
is
going
to
be
involved
with
the
sister
city
to
have
been
paying
that
are
out
of
his
or
her
pocket.
A
Well,
for
all
those
three
items
that
I
mentioned:
the
three
three
thousand
dollars
contribution
to
the
homeless
leadership
alliance:
three
thousand
dollars
to
the
neighborly
care,
which
is
the
meals
on
wheels-
and
I
I
say
I'm
very
proud
that
periodically
I
do
deliveries
and
yet
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
the
sister
city
program.
Okay,.
I
I
mean
I've
got
a
couple
thoughts
on
that,
I'm
happy
to
support
meals
on
wheels
again.
These
are
just
off
the
cuff
discussions.
I
think
we
need
to
take
everyone's
discussions
that
we
we
propose
and
come
back
and
say,
yay
or
nay,
meals
and
wheels.
I'm
happy
with
homeless
leadership
board.
I
I
don't
want
to
support
them
at
all.
They
don't
do
anything
north
county
that
I'm
aware
of
I'd
rather
give
it
to
safe
harbor
or
one
of
the
organizations
that
we
utilize
with
the
the
police
department.
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
better
option
than
giving
it
to
a
homeless
leadership
board
to
potentially
fund
their
non-profit
organizations
themselves.
The
sister
city
program,
20
000,
seems
like
a
lot
to
me.
I
need
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
what
that
would
look
like
we're
paying
the
sister
cities
to
come
over
to
visit
us
or,
if
we're
paying
someone
to
go
over
there.
If
it's
five
thousand
dollars
once
a
year
or
thirty
seven
hundred
dollars,
whatever
flights
hotels
will
be
so
I
would.
I
I
need
to
understand
those
a
little
bit
more,
but
I'm
happy
to
support
some
type
of
funding
for
the
sister
city
program,
but
come
back
around
meals
and
wheels.
I
think,
is
a
good
idea,
homeless,
leadership
board,
no
and
then
sister
city
program,
yes,
but
not
at
twenty
thousand
dollars.
I
Well,
I
I
I
guess
I
need
to
understand,
like
the
sister
city
program
itself,
because
if
this
coming
budget
season,
if
someone
travels
to
greece
once
a
year
to
visit
two
of
the
two
of
the
cities
or
you
rotate
each
year
to
a
different
city,
I
mean
a
flight
with
travel
expenses
for
a
week
or
a
week
and
a
half
it
might
be
what
seven
thousand
dollars
I
don't
know.
I
I
just.
I
think
I
need
to
understand
a
little
more
about
what
the
sister
city
program
would
actually
look
like.
A
City
attorney
trask
is
actually
working
on
the
city,
assistance
series,
program
policy
and
procedure
and
he's
going
to
kind
of
look
and
see
what
they're
doing
in
dunedin.
For
that
keep
in
mind
a
lot
of
the
expenses
that
on
this
program
are
paid
on
our
pocket
right
now
so
right.
This
is
why
you
never
see
a
bill.
A
You
know-
and
I
do
not
expect
the
next
person
to
do
that.
H
O
A
Well,
we
have
three
sister
series
that
we
we
decided
to
to
welcome
to
our
sister
city
program
and
someone
has
to
go
there
to
do
the
sign
in
they'll
come
here
and
then
it's
going
to
be
ex.
You
know
you
know
expenses
to
go
back
and
forth.
So
for
the
three
different
cities
I
thought
twenty
thousand
dollars
would
have
been
enough.
The
first
time-
and
I'm
sure
after
that,
you
shouldn't-
have
been
more
than
probably
five
thousand.
A
I
Okay,
I
just
can't,
I
don't
understand
the
sister
city
program.
Yet
again,
I'm
happy
to
support
you
mayor.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
a
sister
city
program.
I
just
don't
know
what
that
program
actually
looks
like
from
funding
standpoint.
A
J
Yeah
mayor,
thank
you
for
giving
your
items.
I
just
I
I
guess
I
just
had
more
question
on
the
process.
I
don't
want
to
give
a
consensus
or
you
know,
an
open
support
to
any
single
items.
Yet,
just
until
I
see
what
the
rest
of
the
board
has
planned
and
then
we
can
kind
of
prioritize
from
there.
So
I.
J
I'll
end
up
supporting
you
on
on
some
of
these
and
I
think
they're
worthwhile,
I
just
I
don't
want
to
give
consensus
or
support
to
something
until
I've
seen
everybody
else's.
I
guess
request
when
it
comes
to
the
general
fund
monies.
A
If
not,
that's
all
I
have
for
the
general
phone
vice
ver
car.
I
Thanks
mayor,
as
we're
aware,
I
mean
a
lot
of
our
salaries
are
coming
out
of
the
general
fund.
I
Ron
also
talked
about
the
general
fund
being
about
247
000
of
funds
available
the
mayor
just
proposed
about
about
56
000
out
of
that
250
that's
available
mark.
I
know
we
always
budget
certain
things
like
this
past
fiscal
year.
Do
we
have
a
lot
of
that
rolling
over
into
2021
this
coming
year?
That.
F
To
yeah,
I
think
I
think
it's
gonna
depend
on
the
pandemic
and
what
it,
what
it's
called,
have
you
made
any
projection
yet
ron?
I
know
it's
a
little
early,
but
any
projection
with
the
ability
to
have
any
any
rollover
or-
or
are
you
still
thinking
we're
going
to
be
going
into
the
reserves,
because
we're
not
going
to
we're
not
going
to
make
meet
the
budget
with
the
with
the
payment
to
the
businesses
and
all
that
thing
have
you
done
any
recent
projections?
F
I
know
you
go
right
up
to
the
end
of
the
budget
year
on
that.
Where
are
you
right
now
with?
Are
we
going
to
have
money
roll
over
or
are
we
going
to
be
taken
to
reserve
to
balance.
F
What
he's
asking
is,
are
we
going
to
have
money
extra
to
do
these
things,
because
we've
got
extra
money?
That's
not
expense
in
this
budget
that
you
can
roll
over
and
use
for
some
of
these
items
in
the
next
budget
year.
E
H
H
E
I
E
When
the
audit's
done
I'll
probably
have
a
pretty
good
feel
towards
the
end
of
october,
you
know
once
we
get
all
the
all
the
revenue,
all
the
revenue,
all
the
expenses
and
a
lot
of
times
through
the
month
of
october,
we
still
got
expenses
being
accrued
back
into
september.
So
by
the
end
of
october
I
might
have
a
pretty
good
idea.
I
Yeah,
it
does
help,
so
we
have
a
couple
properties
currently
on
this
upcoming
election
that
are
listed
for
voting.
I
know
one's
up
in
the
air
right
now
or
two
two
of
them
are
up
in
the
air
with
the
boat
ramp,
depending
on
the
lease
option.
If
we
don't
come
to
an
agreement
there,
you
mentioned
something
along
the
lines
of
1.4
million
in
the
penny
and
then
close
to
247
in
the
general
funds.
I
I
E
Well,
those
we
don't
have
those
properties
in
the
budget.
If
that's
what
you're
talking
about
since
it's
got
to
be
voted
on,
I
believe
the
cra
was
going
to
handle
the
hoffman
property.
We
even
gave
a
schedule
like
probably
trying
to
do
a
and
so
we're
not
depleting
the
whole
cra
fund,
where
we're
going
to
do
maybe
500
000
the
first
year
and
maybe
two
loans.
F
Right,
the
next
ron-
I
I
think
what
he's
asking
then
let
me
make
sure
it's
right.
I
think
he's
asking
if
the
marina,
whatever
that
money
is,
for
instance,
if
we
went
with
our
original
proposal,
which
we
still
got
this
time
to
decide
if
we
went
with
the
700
000,
we
were
going
to
do
and
then
borrow
from
sanitation
and
payout
of
the
year
that
700
000
would
be
part
of
that
1.4
that
you
have
opened.
F
I
think
that's
what
he's
asked.
How
much
does
that
the
property
sales
that
passes
referendum?
How
much
does
it
affect
that
money
that
you
have
available
in
that
penny
fund.
E
Well,
we
really,
we
have
1.8
million
available
in
the
penny
fund.
Just
in
the
budget,
we've
got
earmarked
1.4
million,
but
we
still
have
400
000
remaining
in
fund
balance
in
the
penny
fund
for
a
total
1.8
million,
and
I
believe
the
way
we
financed
it
was
the
700
000
in
the
first
year
for
the
marina
and
then
we
did
two
alone
for
the
next
two
years.
400
000
each
and
I
believe
that
still
left
800
000
in
the
penny
fund.
Since
we
were
only
doing
700,
000
okay,
this
year
got
it
that.
D
G
D
I
All
right,
so
thank
you
ron
again
mayor.
I,
like
your
ideas,
a
lot
thank
you
for
for
proposing
those
ron.
Thank
you
for
answering
my
questions.
I
just
have
some
ideas
and
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
keep
the
capital
items
out.
The
cip.
H
E
A
I
All
right
so
there's
a
I
mean,
there's
a
couple.
Small
projects
like
the
mayor
talked
about.
H
I
Okay,
there's
just
some
beautiful
beautification
projects.
I
think
that
would
be
wise
to
look
at
the
city's
done
a
really
good
job
overall
over
the
past
couple
years.
But
again,
it's
small
bites
or
small
steps
over
a
few
years
will
make
a
lasting
impression
and
a
lasting
difference,
especially
with
being
a
tourism
town
in
a
town
that
just
really
passionate
about
our
heritage
and
character
and
historic
charm.
I
So
this
this
year
we're
updating
the
gateway
signs,
we're
having
the
wayfinding
signs
installed.
I
think
those
are
all
great
things
to
have
about.
I
Just
so
it's
it
looks
the
same
across
the
city,
because
today,
you'll
look
at
one
building
and
public
works
is
much
different
than
the
public
safety
building,
which
is
much
different
than
the
water
plant,
which
is
much
different
from
the
reclaimed
water
plant,
which
is
much
different
from
city
hall,
which
is
different
than
maybe
one
of
the
parks
right.
So
I
think
updating
the
signs
at
the
public
buildings
and
going.
I
I
I
Another
thing
this
is
all
white,
so
if
the
city
crew
goes
out
and
pressure
washes
it
today
and
we
have
a
rain
storm
tomorrow,
it's
gonna
be
all
dirty
again,
so
I
would
like
to
propose
again
it's
not
a
huge
expense,
but
to
have
at
least
the
same
type
of
wall
all
the
way
across.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
white
wall
that
always
looks
dirty
again.
This
is
a
very
popular
area
in
our
town.
When
people
come
to
visit,
you
come
down,
it's
tarpon
avenue.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
too
in
this
current
budget
is
historic
signs.
We
have
historic
signs
that
are
being
worked
on
to
go
in
front
of
the
old
jail.
The
golf
course
sunset
beach,
I
believe,
there's
like
12
signs
and
multiple
commissioners
expressed
an
interest
in
having
additional
signs
throughout
the
greek
town.
I
Sponge
docks
other
parts
of
tarpon
springs,
but
I
think
this
is
a
time
where
we
probably
want
to
look
at
funding,
maybe
the
next
round,
if
it's
another
10
or
12
signs,
I
mean
there's
probably
another
10
000
that
we're
looking
at
that
again,
I
think
just
keeping
that
going.
We
have
a
lot
of
historic
aspects
to
our
city
and
it's
just
going
to
help
educate
our
residents
and
also
our
visitors.
I
Staying
with
the
beautification
projects,
we've
talked
about
our
street
signs
in
the
historic
district.
Look
great
with
the
street
signs
and
the
cra
is
the
next
part
for
moving
into
the
cra
to
the
stop
signs
and
the
road
signs.
I
I
It
might
be
somewhere
around
five
to
seven
thousand
dollars,
but
it
would
really
tie
the
district
together
instead
of
having
kind
of
a
generic
pull
and
really
time
into
the
stop
sign
polls
and
then
continuing
that
throughout
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
really
looking
at
our
highly
traffic
four-way
stops.
So
this
would
be
like
sunset
and
riverside
florida
avenue
and
curlew
nlk
and
stafford
mirrors
and
safford
mlk
in
spring
mirrors.
I
In
carolina,
we
only
have
a
handful
of
very
heavily
populated
four-way
stops
in
the
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
so
I
would
suggest
that
we
look
at
updating
those
signs.
As
well
with
that
there's
going
to
be
the
mirs
boulevard,
that's
going
to
be
added,
hopefully
we'll
see-
have
a
ribbon
cutting
here
before
the
end
of
the
summer.
I
I
I
Pinellas
avenue
south
of
orange
street,
I'm
sorry
north
of
orange
street
to
dota
canis
in
live
oak.
There's
still
some
areas
for
improvement.
I
know
we've
had
some
nice
presentations
from
staff,
but
at
some
point
it
would
be
nice
to
see
some
continued
beautification
aspects
in
that
area.
I
We
could
talk
more
in
detail
with
that,
and
then
you
may
be
familiar
with
the
planter
bulb
outs
along
pinellas
avenue.
If
I'm
guilty
of
it,
I've
hit
them
multiple
times.
You
can
see
the
the
tire
marks
all
over
them
about
half
of
them,
don't
have
any
plants
in
them
or
there's
a
large
hole
where
people
could
drive
into
them.
There's
issues.
I
I
Overall
and
then
from
the
code
enforcement
funds,
so
when
the
code
enforcement
funds
are
act
and
I'm
getting
away
from
beautification
projects
now
and
pretty
much,
all
my
other
items
are
within
the
cip
or
the
cra,
but
the
code
enforcement
funds.
I
My
understanding
drop
back
into
the
general
funds
and
I
think,
ultimately,
those
code
enforcement
funds
that
are
collected
should
cover
the
salaries
for
code
enforcement
to
start
with,
and
then
at
that
point,
they're
split
amongst
beautification
projects,
recreation,
expansion
with
parks,
if
there's
parks,
improvements
and
also
splitting
it
between
the
land
preservation
fund.
So
the
land
preservation
fund
was
developed
at
one
point
by
a
commissioner
to
acquire
properties
and
to
roll
money
in
there.
I
So
I
think,
instead
of
rolling
the
code
enforcement
funds
which
are
typically
collected
from
nuisance
properties
and
properties
that
actually
devalue
the
neighborhood,
I
think
putting
them
in
those
three
areas
that
actually
build
up
the
value
of
our
city
would
make
a
big
difference.
So
I
don't
have
any
questions,
though,
for
staff
that
fall
into
the
general
fund.
I
I'm
pretty
pleased
overall
with
everything
we're
seeing
and
the
ideas
that
we're
we
have
listed
in
the
budget.
So
thank
you.
G
Thanks,
commissioner,
thank
you
mayor
just
to
try
and
get
right
to
it
in
the
essence
of
time
ron
on
the
in
the
general
fund,
some
of
the
expenditures,
if
you
could
just
help
me
understand
some
of
them
and
probably
just
give
some
clarification
where
I
see
it,
says
physical
environment,
can
you
can
you
give
me
a
better
idea
of
what
that
is
for
a
million
for.
G
Yeah,
it's
general
well
yeah!
That's
where
we're
at
in
the
conversation,
I
think
so
yeah
general
fund.
It
says
sorry,
I
didn't
write
down
the
page,
but
in
the
executive
summary
it's
like
somewhere
around
page.
G
G
It
says
physical
environment,
a
million
four,
and
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
like,
based
on
some
of
the
other
things
that
I've
seen
in
the
budget.
I
didn't
know
if
that
physical
environment
had
something
to
do
with
some
of
the
improvements
that
we're
doing
as
it
relates
to
like
infrastructure.
E
G
Okay,
so
yeah.
Okay,
here
we
go
physical
environment,
a
million
four
thirty
nine
budgeted
2021.
So
I
think
that's
good.
I
think
it
maybe
could
be
coded
something
a
little
bit
different
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
title
but
the
physical
environment.
We're
saying
that
we
have
a
million
four
budgeted
and
within
that
category,
we're
saying
that
that
is
some
of
the
sewer
line
improvements.
Some
of
the
lift
station
improvements
not.
E
G
G
G
G
Okay
can
can
we
get
some
more
detailed
clarification
in
terms
of
like
how
much
of
it
is
is
for
towards
the
expansion
and
how
much
of
it
is
actually
budgeted
for
the
salary
cost
and
operational
costs.
G
G
Sounds
good
yeah
I
don't
want
to
hold
us
up.
Okay,
so
part
of
the
that
answer
is
the
physical
environment.
Part
of
that
is
the
cemetery.
Can
you
give
some
other
examples
to
make
up
the
balance
of
that
million
bucks.
G
G
G
I'm
not
complaining,
I,
I
think
it's
good.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
in
a
lot
of
our
our
budget,
especially
in
areas
in
the
water
and
sewer
fund,
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
infrastructure,
which
I
think
is
is
a
good
thing.
I
think
that
that's
where
you
see
you
know
your
residents
talk
a
lot
about
is
that
they
want
to
see
us
spend
money
on
infrastructure.
G
So
I'm
happy
to
see
that
in
other
aspects
of
the
budget-
and
I
think
that's
it-
that
it's
important
that
we,
you
know
promote
that
and
make
that
information
available
to
our
residents
and
if,
if
we
do
so
by,
you
know
just
labeling
a
little
bit
better
to
start.
I
think
that
that
helps
it's
sort.
E
G
Do
we,
okay,
I
wasn't
sure
and
then
non-departmental,
I
see
a
million
50
and
that's
a
twenty
percent
increase.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
give
you
a
page
number
on
that.
It's
it's.
It's
noted
a
couple
times.
One
is
page
67,
but
then,
in
terms
of
an
increase
on
page
60,
eight
excuse
me
the
last
item:
non-departmental
fiscal
y,
the
difference
in
fiscal
year,
2020,
what's
budget
this
year
is
a
20
percent
increase,
I'm
curious
as
to
more
info
on
non-departmental
and
then
also
why
the
increase.
G
G
E
E
Well,
you've
got
part
86
000
for
the
health
plan
consultant.
Now
you
got
15
000
for
annual
audit.
You've
got
90
000
well,
you've
got
a
humane
society,
3600
jolly
trolley,
45
000
fireworks,
25,
000,
armored
car
service,
5,
000
snow
place;
9000
some
phone
equipment
charges,
10
000,
electric
charges,
a
city
hall,
70
thousand.
E
I
believe
that
includes
part
of
the
generator
we
got
at
a
city
hall,
city,
genera,
generator,
lee
60,
000
health,
health
clinic,
rent,
24
000,
some
other
smaller
items
in
the
rental
areas
there
for
printers
and
post
office
box,
liability
and
property
insurance,
106,
000,
long-term
disability
insurance,
21
000,
some
repairs
of
maintenance,
sponge
exchange,
7
500
hardware,
maintenance,
5000,
copier,
printer
copies,
5,
000
software
maintenance,
7
000..
E
G
G
G
I'd
like
to
see
what
makes
up
that
million
bucks-
and
I
know
it's
not
that
because
there's
240
of
it,
as
you
know,
non-committed-
and
I
think
that
goes
to
my
point
right,
like
there's-
probably
a
slew
of
things
just
on
that
list
that
are
worth
a
discussion
that
this
commission
might
feel,
we
don't
need
or
can
be
budgeted
later
or
whatever,
where
you
know
there
could
at
we
could
add
monies
to
the
240
that
we
have,
you
know,
quote
unquote:
unassigned,
not
an
unassigned
fund
balance.
G
So
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
as
we
continue
to
go
through
this
and
in
more
detail
and-
and
you
know
hopefully
when
we
have
more
time,
we'll
we'll
see
more
things
that
we
may
or
may
not
need
collectively.
As
a
group-
and
we
can
talk
about-
and
I
know
you
know,
other
people
have
items
so
I'll,
keep
on
going
and
then
on
other
current
charges
and
that's
on
the
next
page
on
page
67
and
it's
next
to
I
guess
line
well,
not
line
49
but
element
code
49.
G
E
G
Okay,
so
so
now
is
that,
but
that's
an
addition
to
right.
So
if
I
took
the
289
and
then
I
took
the
million
50
you're,
showing
those
as
two
different
items
is
that
right.
E
G
E
G
G
Okay,
so
again
one
everybody
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
Let
me
just
touch
on
some
of
the
other
capital
things
that
this
commission
may
or
may
not
want
to
do
just
to
float
some
ideas
again.
I'm
not
prepared
tonight
to
talk
about
them
in
detail,
because
I
think
that,
as
we
flesh
out
the
budget
more,
there
will
be
more
or
less
money
for
us
to
talk
about
spending,
but
I'm
all
for
continuing
to
fund
our
grant
programs.
G
G
If
we
have
money
for
additional
funding,
I
know
that
those
funds,
you
know
have
have
money
in
them
and
probably
have
more
money
allotted,
but
that's
where
my
focus
is
regarding
some
of
this
unassigned
money,
as
well
as
brick
and
mortar
beautification
projects-
and
I
know
we
all
have
some
of
those
in
mind.
So
just
you
know
from
a
thousand
foot
view,
that's
where
my
focus
would
be
on
some
of
those
additional
monies
we
have
to
spend.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
on
some
of
my
questions
for
the
general
fund.
I'll
try
to
save
it
for
one-on-one
staff
time
or
maybe
a
future
meeting,
just
in
the
essence
of
time
trying
to
give
commissioner
maddie
kiotis
the
right
to
speak
in
40
minutes
here,
a
little
less
than
that
after
me.
So
I
I
have
two
proposals
for
some
of
those
unassigned
funds
that
we've
been
discussing
and
I'd.
Ask
that
everybody
reference
the
photos.
I
emailed
him
today
of
the
dorset
basketball
courts.
J
There's
two
basketball
courts
at
dorsett
park,
they're
both
really
dilapidated.
They
desperately
need
to
be
replaced,
I'm
just
covering
the
basis
of
the
photos
that
I
took.
There's
cracks
throughout
both
courts
along
with
minor
depressions
in
the
courts
that
result
in
level
change.
The
rims
are
also
rusting.
I
think,
if
you
threw
up
a
you
know
a
brick
shot
up
there.
J
Rust
is
going
to
sprinkle
down
in
your
eyes,
the
surrounding
landscaping
is
merging
with
the
quartz,
so
there's
weeds
literally
on
the
court
that
you're
supposed
to
play
basketball
on
there's
sand
everywhere,
and
these
two
courts
get
a
lot
of
use
and
you
know
they're
in
bad
enough
shape
to
the
point
where
it's
it's
gone
beyond,
you
know
being
tough
to
play
on
and
it's
become
a
liability
safety
wise
the
cracks
everywhere.
J
The
level
changes
I
mean
you're,
just
asking
somebody
to
hurt
themselves
out
there
right
now
and
I've
worked
with
staff
on
this
on
this
item.
They're
they're
in
support
of
it-
and
I
know
the
last
time
we
spoke,
mr
city
manager.
It
was
between
40
to
50
000
to
fully
renovate
and
actually
replace
both
courts.
So
I'm
thinking
45
000.
Does
that
sound
like
a
good
number
to
budget?
J
Yes,
okay,
so
I
mean
again,
that'd
be
that'd,
be
forty
five
thousand
dollars,
you'd
replace
both
courts
and
again
they
get
a
lot
of
use.
J
So
again,
I
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
pictures
I
sent
in
and
if
those
aren't
good
enough,
please
behind
me
drive
out
there
try
to
shoot
around
the
basketball
and
good
luck
stay
safe,
because
those
courts
are
dangerous.
If
left,
as
is
the
other
initiative
of
mine,
is
more
shade
at
our
sports
fields.
So
the
issue
of
additional
shading
is
something
that's
kind
of
plagued
our
youth
sports
teams
for
a
long
time
now
you
know
back
when
I
used
to
play
on
the
fields
you
know
not
too
too
long
ago.
J
You
know
we
had
no
shade
out
there,
and
that
was
always
an
issue
and
now,
as
the
leads
have
grown,
you've
seen
more
and
more
teams
add
shade.
Now
to
the
point
where
I
think
we're
you
know,
our
tarpon
leagues
are
some
of
the
last
leagues
to
actually
get
some
man-made
shade
in
there.
So
if
you
drive
out
to
east
lake
fields
or
countryside
fields
or
clearwater
fields,
what
you'll
see
above
a
lot
of
the
bleachers
is
tents.
J
J
It's
going
to
really
enhance
people
being
able
to
go
out
and
watch
the
games,
because
that
sun
is
hot
and
in
a
lot
of
our
parks,
there's
just
there's
no
room
for
you
know
an
additional
tree
because
there's
a
building
or
a
bleacher
there,
and
some
of
these
man-made
sun
shades
are
really
important.
So
for
those
it'd
be
about
20
000
and
those
are
my
only
two
asks.
J
My
only
two
proposals,
as
far
as
the
general
fund
goes,
would
again
be
forty
five
thousand
dollars
to
replace
the
two
dorset
basketball
courts
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
additional
shading
at
our
parks,
namely
our
discovery,
sports,
complex
riverside
field
and
sisler
field,
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
commissioner
vatikiotis.
K
Thank
you,
commissioner
donovan
I
was
going
to
ask
you
on
on
the
court
at
dorsett
park.
Is
that
the
only
one
that
you
saw
like
that
in
condition,
or
there
are
others
that
need
replacement
or
repair?
So
those.
K
No,
the
courts
are
fine
and
that's
what
I
meant,
but
is
there
anything
else
that
in
dorset
park
that
is
of
that
similar
condition
that
would
need
to
be
repaired?
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at.
J
J
The
tennis
court
is
probably
going
to
need
repairs
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
definitely
the
one
that
needs
to
be
addressed
asap
is
the
basketball
courts.
Okay,.
K
I
mean
I,
you
know,
there's
sisler
field
is
beautiful
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
kind
of
spread
all
of
that
around
a
little
bit.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you.
Let
me
just
get
into
this,
and
y'all
can
tell
me
to
shut
up
so
first
of
all-
and
I
appreciate
commissioner
cara
panty's
insights
on
this
funding
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
as
well.
K
The
the
just
a
general
question,
you
know
vice
mayor
carr
brought
up
page
48,
where
the
positions
are
split
and
then
also
commissioner,
tara
panty
mentioned
the
water
and
sewer
revenues,
and
this
is
just
in
preparation
for
discussion
and
ron.
K
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
these
24
positions
are
split
and
a
number
of
them
are
split
out
of
the
water
and
sewer
and
and
so
forth,
collection
and
stuff
like
that,
and
so
the
purpose
of
the
enterprise
fund
transfers
are
to
go
to
the
general
fund,
but
the
actual
personnel
costs
that
are
split
are
still
coming
out
of
the
wall
in
the
individual
enterprise
funds.
Is
that
correct.
K
All
right,
so
the
justification
for
transferring
inter
making
enterprise
fund
transfers
is
largely
to
offset
the
cost
of
of
of
of
what
we
would
impose
on
other
departments
that
not
necessarily
are
related
to
enterprise
funds.
So
I
just
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
helpful
in
that
discussion.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
understood
that
and-
and
I
appreciate
vice
chair
car
mayor
vice
mayor
carr-
bringing
that
up
so
on
the
on
the
on
on
the
general
fund.
K
Now
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
these
and
ron,
I
hope
you've
got
a
sharp
pencil
there
and
I'm
not
expecting
any
answer
or
maybe,
if
a
commissioner's
got
some
observations
he
can
throw
that
in,
but
on
the
on
the
city,
commission.
K
Expenditures,
I
you
still
have
the
ten
thousand
dollars
for
me
for
health
care
and
that
that
needs
to
be
taken
out.
I
don't,
I
don't
need
health
care.
We
talk
about
that
briefly,
the
on
the
and
I
appreciate
the
three
percent
increase
in
salaries,
and
I
will
I'm
going
to
save
that
one
for
later
and
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
I
want
to
say
in
that
regard.
K
F
K
The
one
thing
I
do
want
us
to
think
about,
though,
before
we
get
to
tuesday
night,
I
think
the
it
department's
done
a
phenomenal
job,
I
think
of
any
department
that
has
worked
diligently
to
make
this.
What
we're
doing
this
evening
work
has
been
the
it
department
and
they're
here
as
long
as
we
are
until
11
30,
and
I
know
the
city
clerks
are
as
well
so
I'd
like
city
manager,
of
course,
if
you
could
think
about
some
kind
of
a
bonus
for
the
id
department
that
would
be
for
all.
K
I
think
it's
three
branches
in
that
I
know
they're
all
participating
that,
and
at
least
I'm
asking
for
that,
and
obviously
it
would
take
the
approval
of
the
commission
to
prove
it,
but
at
least
they
had
they
need
something
to
look
at.
I'm
gonna
leave
that
up
to
you,
if
that's
if
that's
acceptable
or
unless
you
want
me
to
recommend
something.
K
On
the
internal
auditor
it
is
the
42
000
is
in
the
general
fund
and
the
balance
is
in,
I
guess
the
water
and
sewer
fund,
but
basically
it's
77
000.
I
think
we'll
be
extremely
lucky
if
we
get
an
internal
auditor
for
that
amount
of
money
at
least
one
that
we
would
consider
hiring.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
that,
that's
probably
you
know
my
salary,
my
salary
is
going
to
be
a
plus
a
minus
10
000,
but
I
think
you're
going
to
have
about
a
plus
15
on
the
internal
auditor.
K
There's
there's
an
increase
of
about
20
000
in
in
that
budget,
and
I
see
it
largely
in
the
litigation
and
also
in
the
municipality
general.
Now,
I'm
not
sure
what
municipality
general
means
do
you
know?
Do
you
know
what
that
is
ron
or
city
manager?
Of
course,.
G
Commissioner,
if
you
have
a
page
in
front
of
you,
if
you
can
just
state
it's
like.
K
Yes
and
that's
another
good
point,
commissioners,
I
like
the
it's
a
nice
layout
and
certainly
makes
good
pr
on
the
on
the
executive
budget,
but
I
like
the
work
from
the
three
breeding
binder-
that's
page
38.,
in
any
case
city
manager.
Of
course,
I'm
not
looking
for
an
answer
tonight.
Okay,.
K
Two
areas:
the
thing
there
was
a
bump
on
that
of
about
ten
thousand
dollars
and
there's
something
called
municipality
general
and
there's
a
bump
on
that
of
about
ten
thousand
dollars.
K
Okay
and-
and
then
I
mentioned
to
you
earlier
today-
same
angel,
of
course,
I
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
very
similar
to
what
ms
lemons
did
for
economic
development,
that
maybe
we
don't
want
to
do
a
night
because
again
we're
going
to
be
more
time,
but
for
ms
vincent
our
planning
director
to
kind
of
walk
through
what
her
plans
are.
She
she
briefed
us
several
times
on
the
comp,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
some
other
things
that
she
was
probably
going
to
need.
K
Some
help
on
from
a
consultant's
perspective,
and
the
budget
did
jump
from
460
000
up
to
560,
000
567
and
that's
page
40
for
everybody.
K
So
I
it
would
be
helpful
if
she
just
kind
of
walks
through
I
want
to
make.
From
my
perspective,
I
want
to
make
sure
she's
got
enough
money
to
do
what
she
needs
to
do
and
we
don't
at
mid-year
or
three-quarters
of
the
way
through
we're
not
being
able
to
accomplish
what
we
need
to
do.
I
just
want
us
to
to
get
it
done,
and
I
and
I
think
she's
got
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
that
area
and
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you,
city
manager,
licorice.
K
there's
a
big
jump.
I
see
ron
still.
Mr
herring
is
still
frozen
on
page
50,
there's
a
big
jump
in
the
retirement
contribution
for
the
police
department.
It
jumps
from
526
000
up
to
633
000.
That's
an
extra
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I'd
like
to
have
some
information
on
that.
I
think
all
the
commissioners
would
as
well
obviously
you're
going
to
provide
it
to
all
the
commissioners
as
well.
K
Right
on
page
60
code
enforcement,
that's
right
after
the
police
department.
I
I'm
hoping
that
there's
been
some
discussion
with
all
the
commissioners
about
some
plans
on
changing.
Maybe
I
should
ask
you
that
first
city
manager,
of
course,.
K
Okay,
I'll
defer
that
it's
just
a
general
question
of
how
how
the
budget's
going
to
change
in
code
enforcement
not
how
much.
But
what
should
we
expect
as
far
as
a
change
goes
in
that?
But
we'll
talk
about
it
next
tuesday,
night
on
on
the
fire
and
rescue
there's
a
pretty
good
bump
on
that
from
5.56
million
to
5.7
million,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
regular
salaries
and
wages.
And
I
think
that
there
was
some
grants
that
we
lost
this
year.
Expired.
F
K
F
Yes,
that's
the
grant
we
lost
for
the
four
firefighters,
the
portion
of
payment,
then
we.
N
F
F
O
Yes,
I
believe
the
biggest
jump
there
was
it's
about
400
000
there.
Just
for
that
alone,
the
safer
grant
ended
ends
after
this
year,
so
we
will
incur
the
whole
cost
of
those
four
paramedics
salaries.
K
Okay,
that's
good.
Both
you
and
the
police
department
tend
to
hold
the
line
on
expenses,
and
I
appreciate
that.
It's
just
something
that
caught
my
eye
and
I
wanted
to
ask
about
that
in
the
on
page
77,
the
building
department
there's
a
pretty
good
bump
in
the
in
the
salaries
there
and-
and
I
would
assume
that
was
if
you
could
confirm
that
was
ms
brewer's
transfer
from
one
department
to
the
other.
F
N
Yes,
we
brought
shannon
on
last
year,
so
we
have
that
full
salary
within
our
budget,
where
we
didn't
have
it
before
it
was
in
public
works
prior
to
that,
okay,.
K
Powell,
on
page
101,
the
cemetery
fund,
commissioner,
pierre
penny,
there's
a
pretty
good
bump
in
the
regular
salaries
from
146
to
159.
000
on
that,
can
you
provide
a
little
detail
as
far
as
where
that's
coming
from.
K
Mr
smith,
in
the
cemetery
fund,
account
1409
on
page
101
of
the
three
ring
binder,
there's
a
pretty
good
bump
in
the
salaries
from
146
000
to
159,
on
regular
salaries
and
wages,
and
I
don't
know
what
that
that
amount
of
increase
would
have
included.
I
would
have
thought,
maybe
about
a
5
000,
but
not
an
extra
10
000
above
that.
D
Yes,
we
did
do
a
reorganization
last
year
and
that's
taking
full
effect.
I
believe
in
this
budget,
it's
where
we
elevated
the
supervisor
position
and
also
that
second
in
command
part
of
that
was
the
increased
administrative
responsibilities
with
the
expansion.
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
sales
and
paperwork
happening,
hopefully
soon.
F
Remember
what
it
was
that
we
did
for
the
community.
I
know
before
the
commissioner
got
on
when,
when
the
board
approved
that
and
again
it's
in
preparation
for
the
new
cemetery
to
come
on
board,
you.
F
K
K
I
I
I
I
want
to
take
kind
of
broad
strokes
on
this
stuff
and
I
I
don't
want
to
get
into
every
you
know,
line
item
each
department
for
sure
and
there's
some
departments.
I
don't
have
a
question
on
some
policy:
the
on
the
library.
It's
it's
well.
Let
me
defer
that
later.
I
I
can
talk
to
you
about
that
offline,
it's
something
concerning
the
raises,
but
I
I
to
be
honest
with
you.
K
I
I
don't
see
that
at
this
moment,
I'll
I'll,
look
at
that
again,
the
on
the
division
of
arts
in
historical
resources,
the
budget
on
that
is
fairly
flat.
It
goes
from
422
to
428
there.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
an
increase
in
the
salaries,
but
I
I
and-
and
I'm
not
sure,
is
there
a
reason
why
it's
flat?
K
I
is
it
because
of
this
cobit
thing:
we
don't
expect
to
be
doing
as
much
or
there's
a
couple
of
departments
like
this
that
historically
run
flat
and
the
budget
increases
by
five
or
six
percent
a
year.
But
some
of
these
departments
are
just
predictably
flat
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
continuing
to
dig
a
hole
in
ourselves
and
in
this
particular
area
for
the
residents
and
that
we
continue
providing
quality
programs
for
them.
And
I
want
to
make
sure
we've
got
enough
money
that
does
that
diane.
M
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
asking
that
question.
Covid
has
definitely
affected
our
revenue.
We
actually
get
revenue
from
quite
a
few
different
sources.
You
know
the
general
fund
and
then
we
also
have
revenue
from
our
ticket
sales
and
donations
and
also
from
grants
and
our
memberships
and
then
also
one
things
that
I've
instituted
is
going
out
and
getting
sponsorships
from
outside
businesses.
C
But
with
the
coven
19
pandemic,
we
were
able
we
had
cut
our
our
whole
season
short
because
we
normally
go
from
september
through
july,
the
the
following
year.
As
far
as
the
performing
arts
goes
and
we
had,
we
were
forced
because
of
kovid
to
stop
our
performances
in
march
and
so
we've
lost
in.
We
lost
22
000
in
ticket
sales
revenue.
That
was
revenue
that
was
returned
to
our
patrons
because
of
cancelled
or
postponed
shows.
C
We
retained,
13
000
of
that
in
gift
certificates
and
then
our
patrons
donated
the
value
of
their
tickets
about
a
thousand
two
hundred.
So
you
know
of
that.
Twenty
two
thousand
we've
only
really
lost
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
in
revenue.
The
other
thing
that
happens
when
we
don't
do
performances
is
we
don't
have
the
expenses,
so
we
do
have.
C
We
only
made
a
61
000
because
of
covet
of
our
185
000
that
we
would
normally
bring
in,
but
we
massively
reduced
our
expenses.
So
our
performing
arts
budget
has
right
now
from
107
has
gone
down,
is
107
versus,
like
the
224
000
that
we
would
normally
spend,
and
I
can
also
show
you
over
the
past
couple
seasons.
We
have
actually
increased
our
revenue
and
we
have
we
bring
in
like
about
10
to
11
000
ticket
and
ticket
sale
buyers
that
bring
new
people
into
tarpon
springs
that
from
all
over.
C
I
have
a
wonderful
scatter
graph
that
I
could
show
you
that
shows
that
pulling
from
hillsborough
and
pinellas
county
of
how
we
contribute
with
the
performing
arts.
You
know
to
bring
in
new
people
to
tarpon
springs,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we're
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
a
soft
opening
at
the
heritage
museum
in
october.
You
know
god
willing
and
we
socialize
we're
going
to
be
social.
K
No,
no,
that
that's
fine!
I
just
I'm
hoping
this
covet
thing
doesn't
go
all
year,
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
around
december.
We
all
hope-
and
you
know
who
knows
we're
hoping
that
we
should
go
back
to
normal
before
that,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
cut
ourselves
short,
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
on
your
revenue,
but
it
I
don't
believe
it's
not
an
enterprise
fund.
K
All
right
sure
thank
you.
F
Have
an
answer
of
tonight,
so
we
could
get
off
about
the
city
attorney
the
increase
in
litigation
and
the
municipal
general.
What
what
exact?
I
can't
remember,
specifically
what
you
factored
into
those
increases
you
put
in
under
city
attorney.
K
Years,
it's
ten
and
ten
municipality
is
the
ten,
and
then
there
was
a
litigation
increase
of
10.
E
K
All
righty,
that's
that's
something
we
can
look
at.
I
guess
as
well.
Thank
you,
mr
herring,
on
on
the
safford
house,
page
124.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
pet
peeve
for
me.
If
you
look
at
the
line,
46
repairs
and
maintenance,
it's
it's
zero
dollars.
K
Unless
I'm
reading
that
wrong
it's
a
blank,
and
I
can't
believe
this
stafford
house-
you
know
over
a
hundred
year
old
home
doesn't
need
any
kind
of
repair
all
year
long
and
maybe
it
comes
out
a
billing
maintenance
fund.
I
don't
know,
but
I
would
thought
that
something
would
be
listed
for
repairs
and
maintenance
on
the
safford
house
and
to
me
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
one
of
those
forgotten
buildings
that
we
get
into
extremists
and
we
wind
up
with
a
whole
lot
of
rotted
wood
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
I
know
we're
still
waiting
for
wood
to
do
the
repairs
that
were
budgeted
last
fiscal
year
before
we
contain
it.
I
guess
and
and
so
we're
kind
of
dragging
this
thing
out
and
mankind
the
stafford
house
is
deteriorating.
So
is
there
a
reason
why
we
haven't
funded
any
budgeted?
Anything
for
repairs
and
maintenance.
P
Yes,
sir,
how
are
we
doing
today?
Tom
fungi
public
works
director
yeah?
We
actually
do
have
funds
we're
actually
about
three
quarters
away,
replacing
the
wood
on
the
saffron
house,
as
we
talked
about
earlier
and
there's
actually
additional,
I
believe
twenty
thousand
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
painting
and
the
rest
of
the
work
once
we're
completed,
doing
the
the
wood
repair
most
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
the
sanford
house
falls
under
general
operation
plans.
We've
fixed
air
conditioners.
F
What
do
you
have
specifically
in
this
budget,
or,
if
you
don't,
have
it
specifically
see
this
one,
not
this
one,
now
the
one
we're
talking
about
for
next
year.
What
do
you
have
in
there
for
this
albert
house?
Oh.
K
P
Yeah,
it
is,
but
that's
what
I
put
in
the
budget
over
for
that,
and
that
includes
the
painting
and
the
repair
which
I
actually
have
already
partially
deck
repair
is
being
done
as
we
speak,
we're
about
50
percent
repaired
done
on
that
and
then,
of
course
the
rest
of
the
work
will
be
done.
The
next
fiscal
year.
P
A
lot
of
the
general
meetings
we
do
in
the
cyber
house
falls
under
general
operations,
air
conditioning
some
minor
painting-
yeah,
that's
that's
what
we
have
there.
Okay
can.
I
P
I
25
000
for
that
cost,
so
I
think
what
your
question
is
is
we
should
be
pulling
that
into
the
general
funds
for
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
and
not
have
it
on
a
standby
list
is
what
I
think
you're
getting
to.
K
I
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
in
my
experience
when
we
wanted
to
do
some
work
in
the
new
fiscal
year,
you'd
have
money
budgeted
with
that
and
I
think
a
whole
lot
of
stuff
that,
from
my
experience
and
and
I'm
just
an
engineer,
I'm
very
literal-
I
go
a
straight
line
from
point
a
to
point
b.
There
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
zigzagging
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
call
it
hocus
pocus,
but
mixing
accounts,
and
things
like
that.
K
I'd
like
for
something
that's
going
to
be
clearly
understandable,
not
to
get
into
some
of
the
questions
in
in
that
and
explanations
that
commissioner
terrapani
had
with
the
247
000.
And
so
my
point
is:
are
we
expecting
to
do
any
work
on
the
safford
house?
That's
not
a
carryover!
That's
not
on
a
standby
list
that
isn't
not
in
in
and
we
don't
show
it
in
the
budget.
Is
there
anything
that
this
building
needs?
K
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at
remember:
yeah,
supposedly
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
a
building
preventive,
preventative
maintenance
program
and
schedule
in
front
of
us.
Hopefully,
this
next
fiscal
year-
and
I
would
hope
that
that
would
have
taken
into
account
the
safford
house
and
the
and
the
train
depot,
for
example.
K
So
I
guess
my
question
and
vice
mayor
carr,
you
can
answer
it
if
you'd
like,
are
we
going
to
do
anything
to
the
safford
house?
That's
for
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
that
should
be
going
into
this
into
the
budget.
I
can
I'd.
P
Be
happy
to
answer
that
I
I
I
am
doing
work
on
the
safford
house.
As
we
speak,
we
are
replacing
the
decking
wood.
We
thought
about
that
and
then
I
put
in
for
the
budget.
Next
year's
painting
of
the
the
exterior
with
the
whole,
the
deck
and
the
rest
of
the
building.
P
K
F
K
F
Bob
robertson
can
can
pop
pipe
in
because
his
and
his
project
is
working
on
this
assessment
of
the
buildings,
and
so
bob
do
you
have
anything
to
add
on
where
you
are?
Have
you
done
the
southward
house,
yet
where
you
are
in
that
process
that
you
know
we're
going
to
be
giving
that
report
on
our
maintenance
of
all
the
buildings
stuff
very
soon,
not
into
next
budget
year,
but
very
soon,
as
we
get
finished
with
this
stuff,
you
have
anything
to.
M
Just
a
quick
update
on
that
we're
about
75
percent,
complete
doing
the
evaluations
in
the
city
for
all
the
buildings.
We
did
that
stafford
house,
but
we
don't
have
a
report
ready
yet
we're
still.
This
is
an
in-house
type
project
that
we're
working
towards,
but
you
know
I
appreciate
what
commissioner
vadiyakus
is
suggesting.
We
definitely
want
to
have
that
ready
for
certainly
the
next
time
around.
K
Yeah,
absolutely
yeah,
I
just
you
know
I
I
go
by
the
severed
house,
you
know
not
a
lot
of
people
do.
I
do
and
I
look
at
it
and
I
I
know
what
mr
function
is
saying,
but
also
remember
what
it
looked
like
as
well,
and
I'd
like
to
keep
it
looking
the
way
I
remembered
it
as
well,
not
the
way
we're
living
with
it
right
now
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
the
train
depot.
K
Right,
I
know
mr
function,
but
in
next
year
next
fiscal
year,
it's
zero
where
this
pre
this
year,
you
had
472
and
I
guess
that
deck
repairs
out
of
the
cip
as
well.
Yes,
sir,
okay
and
that's
a
point
that
we
need
to
discuss.
These
are
kind
of
regular
maintenance
items
that
I
think
ought
to
be
coming
out
of
the
general
fund.
But
if
there's
a
good
reason
of
putting
them
in
the
cip,
that's
fine!
Let
me
move
on
to
the
list
of
things
that
I
had
that's
it
for
the
general
fund.
K
The
the
projects
I
talked
about.
There
were
two
memoranda
that
I
sent.
One
was
for
the
downtown.
These
are
nothing
new.
These
were
started
by
city
manager,
possovac
and
they
just
keep
getting
or
they're
basically
forgotten,
but
it's
basically,
there
were
a
lot
of
holes
and
voids
of
trees,
palm
trees
in
different
locations
along
safford,
along
tarpon
avenue,
and
a
lot
of
the
acorn
lights.
I
can
get
into
the
history
of
the
hay
corn
lights
and
and
why
they're
set
haphazardly
right
now.
Our
current
city
manager
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
K
So
that's
pretty
much
the
downtown
we'll
get
into
that
and
the
city
manager
has
my
memorandum
on
that
on
the
sponge
dock.
Similarly,
we
started
on
precovid
there's
a
number
of
items
that
I
listed
in
that
they're.
Nothing
major
expense
things
such
as
the
wireless
distributed
sound
system,
lighting
and
so
forth
is
is
in
that
list,
and
I
provided
that.
K
I
believe
I
sent
it
to
each
of
you
as
well,
and
I
provided
that
to
I
did
I
see
that
on
the
on
the
on
the
copy
too,
I
provided
that
to
the
city
manager,
so
I
can
get
with
you
and
identify
some
costs
associated
with
each
one
if
you'd
like
I
know
mr
function
has
already
done
some
work
on
that,
but
in
helping
put
this
list
together,
but
I
think
between
the
five
of
us,
we're
gonna,
find
that
that
247
thousand
dollars
is
is
not
going
to
go
very
far
within
everything
and-
and
I
agree
with
commissioner
donovan
that
maybe
the
what
our
vision
ought
to
be
ought
to
take
a
little
bit
of
precedent
over
maybe
some
of
the
other
boilerplate
items
in
the
budget.
K
But
that's
a
that's
a
matter
of
discussion
and
then,
of
course
I
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
the
salaries
with
the
the
two
city
clerks
adjustment
and
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
projects
I
just
mentioned
are
in
there
as
well.
Thank
you
mayor.
That's
all.
I
know.
A
A
I
don't
think
there's
enough
time
to
move
on
to
the
cip
that
only
have
five
minutes
left,
so
I
will.
A
I
guess
we
can
close
the
meeting
if,
since
the
time
has
expired
or
it's
getting
close
to
be
expired,
it's
four
minutes
left.
A
I
I
I
think
it's
great
to
have
that
diversity
in
the
mindset
on
how
we
approach
different
things
in
tarpon
spring.
So
I'm
encouraged
by
that
with
this
budget
season,
I've
been
keeping
track
of
them
and
taking
notes
here,
and
I
think
we
could
pretty
much
within
the
general
fund.
We
we're
doing
pretty
good,
I
think
with
what's
available,
so
I
just
want
to
say
great
job
all
the
commission
here
and
the
mayor
on
working
on
the
general
funds
so
far.
A
Mr
liquors,
you
heard
all
the
the
the
wishes
and
all
the
things
that
all
the
commissioners
and
I
were
wishing
to
have.
Did
you
get
a
chance
to
write
them
down
and
see
at
animal
up
and
see
how
much
that's
going
to
be.
F
Not
not
not
the
addition
remember
we
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
it.
For
instance,
a
lot
of
the
treat
there'll
be
tree
funds,
that's
not
going
to
affect
your
240,
so
we'll
take
all
these
and
by
tuesday
we'll
look
at
what
actually
again,
if
there's
other
places
to
get
the
money.
Besides
the
that
247
we're
talking
about
there's
other
funds,
for
instance,
we
could
do
20,
30
000
of
trees
in
this
thing,
and
it
wouldn't
affect
that
money.
F
So
we've
got
them
all,
we'll
go
put
it
together
and
what
funds
they
may
come
from.
If
any
of
the
impact
fee
money
it
can
be
used
for
some
of
these,
which
again
adds
some
money
to
there
so
we'll
take
from
now
to
tuesday
to
try
to
put
together
all
of
these
and
what
funds
we
can
get
it
from
and
see.
If
there's
other
places
to
do
some
of
it,
so
that
money
isn't
all
taken
out
and
hopefully
there's
some
more
to
work
with
and
stuff.
So
we'll
do
that
between
now
and
tuesday,.
F
You
remember
that's
an
unknown,
remember
how
I
don't
like
unknowns
like
we're
getting
funded
for
the
dredge
and
stuff,
like
that.
I
don't
like
unknowns
he's
estimating
now,
but
we
don't
know
where
that's
going
to
be
in
that
in
in
that.
P
F
Now,
that's
not
to
say
we
can
have,
we
can
have
a
list
of
170
if
it
occurs,
but
it
could
very
well
be
170
the
other
way
by
the
time
we
get
to
october.
So
you
know
we
know
we
have
the
247
in
hand,
so
it
could
be
a
standby
list
or
something
for
that
again.
I've
seen
those
numbers
change
from
august
to
september
drastically.
F
K
I
may
or
may
I
say
something
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
some
additional
things
too.
You
know
grants
it
would
be
offered
some
of
the
youth
leagues
last
year.
We
need
to
kind
of
revisit
that.
That's
commissioner
donovan,
he
didn't
say
anything
about
that
tonight,
but
maybe
that
he's
thinking
about
that.
I
I
support
everything
that
all
the
commissioners
said
tonight.
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
discussions
in
the
future.
My
issue
is
not
what
was
said
or
what
is
desired.
K
My
is
more
of
a
process
and
trying
to
get
my
arms
around
it
to
figure
out
how
we
can
talk
about
these
things
to
where
everybody's
on
the
same
page.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
that,
and-
and
I'm
probably
talking
quickly
tonight,
because
we're
we're
there
as
far
as
time
and
we're
pressed
we've
been
pressed
all
year
long
with
covet,
so
I
just
want
to
continue
on
and
maybe
by
the
time
we
have
to
approve
the
budget,
we'll
be
there
on
everything
and
and
everybody
gets
to
gets
what
they
want.
F
A
Okay,
we
thank
you
mark
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
having
a
great
meeting
tonight.
The
time
is
nine
o'clock.
It
has
expired,
so
the
meeting
is
adjourned.