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Due
to
the
health
crisis
that
we're
facing
and
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
governor
of
the
sentence
and
the
Pinellas
County
Executive
Orders,
along
with
theĆ”--
following
the
CDC
guidelines,
the
BOC
meetings
will
be
conducted
by
videoconferencing
and
will
provide
for
public
comments
until
such
a
time
orders
are
lifted.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
staff
presentation.
Mr.
McCrory.
E
You
Carolyn,
as
economic
development
manager,
we're
here,
to
discuss
the
proper,
a
at
1:44
East,
harpin
Avenue,
which
has
been
owned
by
the
tarpon,
springs
CRA
since
2012,
and
has
been
a
subject
of
redevelopment
efforts.
Since
then
in
2012,
a
professional
appraisal
was
done
of
the
property
which
showed
a
fair
market
value
of
85,000.
Today,
the
property
appraiser
site
lists
it's
just
market
value
at
200,
just
under
two
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand,
which
is
nearly
triple
its
value
from
eight
years
ago.
The
city
is
currently
in
receipt
of
two
development
proposals.
E
These
proposals
were
unsolicited.
They
were
not
as
a
result
of
a
formal
RFP
process.
The
proposers
were
all
given
a
document
which
you
haven't
is
included
in
the
backup.
It's
called
a
general
information
on
the
redevelopment
of
144
harpin
Avenue.
That
is,
information
that
was
provided
to
anybody
who
requested
information
on
the
site
was
me
who
might
want
to
have
it
in
it.
It
was
also
information
that
was
included
in
the
RFPs
so
that
people
could
follow
along
what
what
we're
looking
for.
E
Moving
forward
before
CRA
can
dispose
our
seller
lease
any
property,
Florida
Statutes
163,
creating
required
30-day
notice
published
in
a
newspaper
prior
property
that
published
March
20th,
the
Tampa
Bay
Times,
and
we
did
not
receive
any
other
proposals,
but
the
two
that
are
before
so
I'll
briefly
describe
the
two
proposals
we
try
to
provide.
It
was
enough
time
to
review
them
in
full
number.
E
One
is
penny
tree
capital,
proposing
a
2/3
building
first
floor
commercial,
an
expansion
of
the
replay
amusement
means
in
a
50
style,
ice-cream
shop
that
would
be
operated
by
orange
cycle
Creamery
with
the
retail
space
renting
in
Port
streets
I
mean
no
tenant
has
been
identified
for
that
space.
The
second
floor
is
an
innovation
and
Technology
Center,
in
other
words
a
business
incubator
for
start-up
businesses
and
entrepreneurs.
When
a
rooftop
terrace
is
proposed
as
a
future
build-out
in
terms
of
the
sale
price,
the
proposer
is
offering
$5,000
as
a
selling
price.
F
E
A
three-story
building
first
floor
would
be
commercial
in
which
could
retail
office
or
restaurants
utilizing
the
full
square
footage
from
Tarpon
Avenue
to
Court
Street.
No
tenants
are
identified
in
the
proposal.
The
proposal
does
indicate
that
they
would
subdivide
the
space
as
the
market
demands.
Then
the
second
and
third
floors
are
proposing
16
1
in
two-bedroom
apartments,
which
would
be
8
on
each
floor
and
for
the
sale
price.
The
proposer
is
offering
a
$20,000
which
they
are
requesting
to
be
funded
at
the
time
of
building
harmony.
E
E
Staff
is
also
preliminary
reviewed,
both
proposals
relative
to
Planning
and
Zoning
matters
and
consistency
with
the
special
area
plan.
The
property
is
in
the
t5b
transect
section,
which
is
called
apartment,
Avenue,
Main
Street.
It
is
about
a
fifth
of
an
acre.
What
0.185,
nine
acres
and
the
uses
in
both
proposals
are
encouraged
within
the
ASAP
and
transect
two
items
that
we
will
note
the
building
square
area
ratio.
Both
proposals
exceed
the
current
floor.
Aeration
1.25,
which
is
in
that
transect
penny
tree,
is
2.5
and
Dena
me
Holdings
is
at
3.0.
E
Now
the
F
AR
can
be
adjusted
simultaneously
within
the
redevelopment
project
timelines
for
either
proposal
and
that's
a
process.
That's
on
the
planning
and
zoning
would
research
and
recommend
and
in
the
density,
the
current
density
in
that
transect
allows
a
maximum
of
22
units
per
acre
with
the
density
transferred
and
the
density
affects
genomics
proposal.
E
E
However,
since
the
review
we've
been
in
receipt
of
a
letter
and
holdings
that
they
will
adjust
the
residential
component
of
the
project
to
the
property
density
as
as
determined
by
planning
steps
and
you're
going
to
their
consulate
on
the
number
of
units
that
they're
able
to
get
the
fire
marshal.
So
read
it
he's
saying
if
the
building
needs
to
be
sprinkled
and
could
require
elevator
installations
and
other
measures,
but
again
once
a
a
concept
is
chosen.
Staff
from
all
of
our
departments
will
working
to
ensure
that
the
building
designs
are
consistent
with
the
transect
code.
E
Herrick,
adjusting
the
other
city
building
safety
codes,
negotiation
and
we'll
also
include
a
sale
price
and
lease
purchase
terms
which
the
service
and
prepare
all
the
final
documents.
Once
the
negotiations
are
complete,
they
will
come
back.
The
CRA
board
for
final
approval
included
in
the
information
is
a
memo
from
the
city
attorney,
which
outlines
on
some
of
that
processes
and
then
again
with
that,
the
purpose
tonight
is
really
for
the
ski
area
board
to
select
the
proposal
that
has
a
collective
body.
E
E
B
G
B
G
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen.
Everybody
see
my
screen.
Okay,
yes,
perfect!
All
right!
Well,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
providing
the
opportunity
to
present
the
two
tarpon
springs.
I
think
anytime,
I
get
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
the
place
that
I
call
home
as
well.
As
you
know,
talking
about
business,
it's
gonna
be
a
good
day,
so
I
first
want
to
give
you
a
brief
explanation
of
Who.
G
Previously,
brand
marketing
and
CEO
until
we
were
acquired
at
28,
a
national
organization,
we
laid
70
in
about
two
blocks
from
your
City
Hall.
We
still
are
growing,
stan
shil
organization,
but
I'm
no
longer
an
owner,
I
also
manage
and
replay
museum
and
part
of
this
proposal
is
a
condom.
Expansion
of
replay
museum
as
well
as
operate
some
commercial
and
residential
real
estate.
G
My
proposal
is
regarding,
as
Karen
said,
a
two-story
building
when
they
a
ground-floor
of
existing
tarpon
springs.
Businesses
both
to
be
expanded,
because
you're,
both
very
successful
and
in
downtown
tarpon
springs,
is
a
proposal
that
respects
the
historical
look
and
feel
and
continues
to
blend
directly
into
the
area.
I'm
gonna
split
it
really
in
in
having
conversation
into
six
separate
areas
and
we'll
pretty
quickly.
I
do
know,
there's
a
short
time
period.
G
First,
is
the
expansion
of
the
expansion
of
orange
cycle
and
a
unnamed
tenant
or
event
space
downstairs
would
be
the
third
the
core
of
this,
and
the
both
of
my
conversation
is
going
to
be
about
technology
and
innovation
center,
because
that
was
really
I.
Think
the
the
net
positive
change
for
this.
This
particular
development
replay,
is
for
anybody
who's
been
there
is
you
know
we
call
it
a
museum,
some
people
call
it
an
arcade,
but
essentially
we
sell
nostalgia.
G
We
have
people
come
and
visit
to
experience,
things
that
they
may
have
haven't
seen
in
20
or
30
years,
and
and
we
believe
that
we
were
part
of
the
movement
to
really
expand
the
pedestrian
activity
in
downtown
tarpon.
It's
been
ultra
ultra
successful
to
the
point
where
we
are.
If
anybody's
been
and
there's
been
it's
where
packs
every
weekend
a.
G
G
G
Orange
cycle
creamy
link
Creamery,
is
a
business
that
we
as
personally
visit.
Quite
often
a
note
Stephanie
very
well
and
part
of
conversations.
Late
last
year
was
the
thought
or
idea
of
expanding
tying
into
play:
museum
nostalgia,
perspective,
ice
cream
and
fifty
Alamos,
Tala
and
Americana
I
think
fits
well
with
historical.
H
G
G
Court
Street
is,
as
it
continues
to
activate
and
grow
and
I
think
there's
some
conversations
about
a
potential
parking
garage
over
there
at
some
point
and
we
think
it's
a
beautiful
Street
that
just
doesn't
get
the
same
level
of
pedestrian
traffic
that
we
think
that
this
would
help
add
with
a
with
a
tenant
on
the
back
side.
So
all
of
all
the
aspects
of
that
I
think
are
very
straightforward.
In
my
proposal:
they're
they're
businesses
that
are
in
downtown
tarpon
right
now,
it's
very
straightforward.
G
We
have
a
lot
of
look
a
lot
of
businesses
in
this
Tampa
Bay
area
and
really
around
the
United
States
that
do
this.
But
there's
nothing
in
Canales
and
I
think
we're
going
to
demonstrate
that
a
little
bit
in
this
conversation.
But
when
I
created
my
business,
there
was
nobody
that
could
really
support
me.
I
had
score.
Sba
I
went
to
a
couple
of
different
support.
G
A
mentor
or
they
have
a
network
or
they
go
out
on
their
own,
and
it
was
really
a
business
owner
to
really
kind
of
cut
and
learn
what
I
was
doing
on
stakes
day
and
age.
A
lot
support
between
pure
business
owners.
So
we
we
see
the
opportunity
to
create
a
really
headquarters
for
business
innovation
in
Tarpon
Springs,
and
we
see
you
know,
engaging
business
leaders
promoting
entrepreneurship,
advancing
anybody
who
wants
personal
development
in
whether
that
be
technology,
whether
that
be
learning,
new
skills
and
and
then
I
think,
most
importantly
for
us
is
Tarbert.
G
Springs
is
known
for
its
its
culture,
it's
known
for
its
tourism
aspects,
but
it's
not
known
for
business,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
you
know:
opportunity
to
evangelize
this
space
in
a
pocket
of
our
metropolitan
area
as
a
place
for
innovation
way.
We
see
that
happening
is
to
stimulate
the
economic
growth
by
creating
a
location
that
based
on
co-working
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
familiar
people
are
with
co-working,
but
what
co-working?
It
is.
Basically,
the
ability
to
have
a
community
business
space.
G
Maybe
a
virtual
office
is
a
more
traditional
way
of
saying
it,
but
where
anybody
can
sign
up
and
have
a
monthly
membership
to
go
and
have
the
access
to
business
resources
and
education
about
creating
businesses,
accounting,
legal
marketing
technology
being
able
to
have
one
central
place
for
those
things
to
happen
and
to
collaborate
with
pure
business
owners
because
I
think
that's
really.
What
drives
economic
development
is?
It's
networking
you
know,
and
we
see
that
with
things
like
Chamber
of
Commerce
I
mean
those
those
networking
events
on
a
small
scale.
You
know
make
big
dividends.
G
G
G
There
are
some
local
examples.
I
know
this
is
maybe
somewhat
foreign
sometimes
to
people,
because
it
is
a
newer
business
concept.
It's
only
been
you
know
emerging
over
the
last
few
years
and
there's
there's
multi-billion
dollar
operations
that
are
that
are
doing
these,
but
we
see
this
as
more
of
an
intimate,
a
smaller
play
for
smaller
businesses
inside
a
you
know,
smaller
community
and
I
will
share
this
deck.
G
You
know
at
very,
very
low
cost,
because
it's
really
a
I,
don't
want
say
a
sublet,
but
it's
really
a
fractional
ownership
or
a
fractional.
You
know
ownership
of
that
members
of
that
space,
so
a
lot
of
businesses
can
get
their
start
and
have
private
professional
offices
and
professional
meeting
areas
without
having
to
spend.
G
You
know
hundreds
and
thousands
of
dollars
on
leases
and
lock
in
for
long
terms,
but
they
have
all
the
access
of
the
business
that
they
the
business
services
they
would
need,
as
well
as
the
consultation
for
for
growing
their
business
and
scaling.
It
here
is
a
picture
of
a
you
know,
potential
layout
that
essentially
just
shows
common
areas
as
well
as
private
areas.
On
the
back
side
towards
Court
Street.
We
also
see
a
possibility
of
doing
a
you
know,
an
educational
area
that
people
could
use
for
for
special
for
educational
seminars.
Things
like
that.
G
G
This
is
this
is
relatively
new,
not
necessarily
virtual
spaces.
You
know
there
are
places
there
are
companies
that
have
been
around
doing
virtual
offices
were
very
long
time,
but
the
idea
of
combining
a
collaborative
and
innovate
in
a
technology.
You
know
interaction
is
definitely
a
little
new
and
it's
grown.
It's
something.
That's
happening,
whether
it's
going
to
happen
in
Tarpon
Springs
or
it
happens
in
st.
Pete,
our
Tampa,
it's
happening,
I
think
it's
extra
important
for
people
to
think
about
from
the
from
the
basis
that
over
the
last
few
months
certainly
was
a
little
jarring.
G
I.
Think
in
anybody
would
remember
this
in
2008,
you
know
the
gig
economy
and
the
sharing
economy
the
the
way
of
people
controlling
their
own
destiny
with
the
side
hustle.
If
you
will
that
all
emerged,
because
people
had
to
do
what
they
needed
to
do
to
survive
and
and
I
see.
This
is
just
me
being
a
little.
You
know
my
opinion,
but
I
see
the
future
requiring
even
more
so
that
and
and
this
type
of
location
now
helps
serve
very
very
micro
businesses
that
are
going
to
be
that
exact
type
clientele.
G
G
We
see
the
benefit
of
multiple
multiple
stakeholders
in
this
I
mean
anybody
from
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
really
catalyzing
the
economic
activity
to
the
residents.
You
know,
businesses
are
working
remote.
Now,
businesses
will
continue
to
work
remotely
post
covet
19,
and
this
is
this
is
a
way
to
support
those
businesses
in
those
areas.
I
think
the
bigger
the
bigger
group
is
is
really
the
entrepreneurs
and
the
in
the
future,
entrepreneurs
that
really
need
the
support.
I.
G
Wanted
to
show
this
best
group,
because
we
I
I'm
very
impressed
by
tech
works
of
Gaston
North
Carolina,
because
they
are
very,
very
similar
in
both
geographic
proximity
to
a
metropolitan
area
that
have
done
something
very,
very
similar
and
have
been
very
successful.
I
found
out
about
this
because
one
of
my
employees
rent
space
from
them
and
in
their
in
their
business.
That's
remote,
one
of
our
developers,
I
guess
I
can't
say
he's
my
business.
G
Your
mind
play
anymore,
he's
one
of
my
co-workers,
but
he
he
rents
from
this
environment
and
it's
changed
the
way
that
he
operates
and
it's
a
it's.
A
Gaston
North
Carolina
is
the
county
over
from
Charlotte
North
Carolina,
and
so
they
are
distant
enough
from
the
metropolitan
area,
but
they
still
have
the
type
of
people
that
would
be
traveling
into
Charlotte
North
Carolina.
G
To
talk
to
work,
so
we
see
them
keeping
their
talent,
local,
which
is,
is
much
more
beneficial
to
their
local
area
than
having
them
travel
and,
in
our
case,
travel
to
someplace
like
downtown
South,
Pete,
st.
Peter,
downtown
Tampa,
Ybor,
City
or
anyplace
that
there's
weather
it's
attack
of
creative
activity
or
any
type
of
business
activity.
So
it's
working
and
it
works.
It
works
in
other
places.
So
I
was
inspired
to
put
that
here.
G
It
is
a
you
know.
My
business
is
over
20
years,
but
you
know
operating
businesses
for
over
20
years
and
I
that
I
had
something
like
this.
So
after
we
sold
the
organization,
my
desire
was
to
to
do
something
to
give
back,
and-
and
this
is,
is
the
way
that
I
see
best
fit.
Do
that
and
seeing
that
there's
a
roadmap
for
for
people
to
be
successful.
In
that
that's
that's
the
drive.
I
think
one
thing
that
people
may
recognize
very
early
on
from
this
presentation
is
that
my
presentation
is
pretty
light
on
development.
G
Fit
finish
facade
details
that
are
would
normally
be
expected
for
a
development
project
like
this
I
I
did
not
anticipate
that
this
would
be
a
competitive
position
and
competitive
bid.
By
putting
this
proposal
together,
my
desire
was
to
work
with
the
the
tarpon
springs,
to
develop
something
for
the
people
and
I
considered,
really
testing
the
viability
and
the
appetite
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
in
yourselves,
specifically
for
something
like
this
to
see.
G
If
it
even
makes
sense,
because
if
not
it's,
it's
a
non-starter
I
so
I,
but
I
will
say
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
start
going
back
last
year
with
Edie
to
talk
about
this
and
then
and
then
picked
it
back
up
this
year,
where
he
worked
on
some
of
the
schematic
designs
for
us
and
and
I
intend
to.
If
awarded
the
project.
G
This
then
managed
through
and
through
from
the
development
perspective,
and
then
we
also
had
some
dialogue
with
multiple
contractors
and
organizations
that
would
help
with
the
build
they
looked
at
the
schematics.
We
had
some
long
conversations
that
is
perfectly
viable
for
them
to
do
and
if
going
deeper
into
this
we'd,
be
a
little
bit
more
specific.
On
on
the
details,
as
Karen
had
mentioned,
I'm
proposing
to
you
know,
provide
an
offer
$5,000
for
the
lot
and
and
and
then
to
build
out
is
complete.
We
would
we
would
purchase
it
from
elite
lease
purchase
last
slide.
G
B
Cheney,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
congratulations
for
beats
all
innovating
and
having
new
and
good
ideas.
I,
really
like
the
concept
that
you
have
on
a
bottom
floor.
On
the
first
floor
that
you're
going
to
have
the
replay
museum
that
will
attract
people,
mostly
young
people,
but
seems
like
I've,
been
there
several
times,
I
see
people
all
ages,
the
ice
cream
shop,
which
is
very,
very
popular
that
will
bring
families
to
the
location.
B
G
G
Think
one
of
the
real
concerns
is
to
make
sure
that
something
isn't
built
for
one
purpose
that
can't
be
repurposed,
because
I
mean
we've
seen
that
with
many
buildings
that
you
you
know
you
you
have
to
rip
the
whole
thing
down
to
the
to
the
four
walls
to
restart
and
it
isn't
easy.
So
that's
that's
the
way
we
would
want
to
do
it.
It's
very
open,
yeah.
A
Thanks
mayor
mr.
Cheney,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
tonight
and
your
willingness
to
stay
in
Tarpon
Springs,
and
you
have
a
couple
of
successful
businesses
within
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I.
Really
when
the
replay
museum
came
in
the
Tarpon
Springs
I
kind
of
turned
my
head.
Oh
my
god.
It's
a
neat
idea
and
it's
really
flourished
really
really
well
in
downtown.
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
congratulations
on
that
and
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
bring
that
here
to
tarpon
springs,
because
there's
so
much
history
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
really
walking
down
the
historic
street
of
tarpon
springs
into
a
pinball.
I!
Guess
you
would
say:
museum
is
really
an
impressive
thing.
A
A
G
A
G
Depends
on
the
type
of
the
type
of
business
I
mean
if
you
are
a
consultant
that
you
just
don't
need
to
work
from
your
house,
but
you
want
a
professional
space
but
you're
primarily
doing
your
work
online.
You
may
be
there
in
perpetuity,
but
if
you
are
a
start-up
that
is
using
this
as
a
way
to
be
lean
in
costs,
then
you're
using
it
as
a
springboard
to
get
established
before
you
go
off
into
your
own
space.
So
it's
really
I,
guess
I
see
a
tear.
Do
you
have
a
shared
user?
G
A
I
J
I
just
want
to
first
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
everybody.
Who's
been
involved
in
this
process
over
the
course
of
the
years.
Definitely
the
applicants
on
this
last
go-around
for
taking
the
time
and
committing
the
resources
to
put
together
such
a
thorough
presentation
and
also
your
interest.
You
know
in
Tarpon
Springs,
just
in
general,
I
know
that
you
had
the
replay
Museum
and
some
other
investments
and
you
live
just
outside
of
town
so
to
you
and
the
other
applicant
I
just
want
to
say.
J
You
know,
thanks
for
your
for
your
investment
first
and
foremost,
for
your
continued
interest
in
continued
investment
and
then
also
to
the
board
as
well.
I
mean.
Ultimately,
you
know,
we've
had
this
piece
of
property
for
four
years
now
and
haven't
wanted
to
part
with
it,
and
you
know
more
of
a
traditional
sale
on
that.
You
know
basically
was
for
a
reason
and
the
reason
being
collectively
we
wanted
to
maintain
some.
You.
D
J
So
regarding
your
application,
I
think
it's
very
detailed
and
I
can
appreciate
that
the
all
of
the
design
work
looks.
You
know
absolutely
fantastic,
especially
the
courser
II
side
I
like
how
you
did
some
of
the
kind
of
domed
entry
ways
to
break
up
the
Court,
Street
facade
and
there's
no
doubt
an
opportunity
on
Court
Street.
For
you
know
more
of
growth
and
development.
J
I
think
we're
fortunate
to
see
our
town
and
our
urban
core
at
a
point
now
where
the
Main
Street
is
growing,
not
just
down
Tarpon
Avenue,
but
you
know
out,
east
and
west
north
and
south
and
you're,
seeing
a
lot
of
these
other
roads,
Lemon
Street,
Court,
Street
and
alike,
starting
to
catch
on
to
some
of
this
redevelopment.
So
it's
really
encouraging
to
see
and
there's
there's
without
a
doubt,
an
opportunity
to
to
grow
that
down
course
tree.
J
That
said,
I
think
the
innovation
and
Technology
Center
is
definitely
a
unique
idea
and,
throughout
my
travels
I've
seen
that
become
more
of
a
reality.
And
these
you
know
urban
urban
areas,
especially
that
are
growing
and
a
business
incubator,
is
something
that
this
commission
has
discussed
for
some
city-owned
properties
as
well,
that
are
already
in
existence.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
great
idea.
J
The
person
Pearson
VUE
testing
center
is
a
great
idea
for
me,
I'm,
looking
for,
like
the
biggest
bang
for
our
buck
right,
so
in
terms
of
bringing
people
to
town
and
then
spending
money,
etc.
So
I
was
a
little
disappointed
that
I
didn't
see
a
residential
component
to
your
presentation,
but
nonetheless
I
think
it
was.
It
was
great
it
hit
on
a
lot
of
factors
that
we
were
looking
for
and
it'll
definitely
bring
people
to
town
one
way
or
the
other.
J
So,
regardless
of
you
know
the
outcome
tonight,
whether
or
not
you
get
the
proposal
or
the
other
applicant
gets
it.
You
know
I
would
just
look
for
you
to
continue
to
invest
in
Tarpon
Springs,
and
if
it's
not
this
location,
you
know
another
location
so
just
know
that
we
appreciate
everything
that
you're
doing
and
will
continue
to
do.
And
hopefully
we
continue
to
more
public-private
partnerships
with
you,
yeah.
G
D
K
K
G
That's
a
very
good
question.
I
am
very
very
let
me
back
I
thought
that
there
was
not
anything
in
this
world
that
would
disrupt
the
business
model
of
replay
and
plan
to
open
up
many
locations,
because
really
you
can't
be
technologically
disrupted
in
pinball
right
like
it's,
not
nobody's
gonna
make
an
app,
that's
gonna,
replace,
pinball
or
classic
arcade
games.
G
We
do
recognize
that
we're
gonna
have
to
be
a
little
bit
more
thoughtful
like
any
business
that
has
you
know
people
putting
their
hands
on
a
lot
of
stuff
to
be
a
little
bit
more
thoughtful
about
it,
but
I
have
zero
concerns
that
that
the
business
can't
support
that
location.
You
know
if
we
were
gonna
put
a
place
in
Downtown,
Disney
or
someplace,
where
the
the
least
cost
would
be
so
astronomical.
G
I'd
be
a
little
concerned,
but
this
this
is
not
just
a
good
business,
but
it's
also
a
passion
of
mine
and
sharing
it
with
people
is.
It's
is
a
driving
force
that
I'll
continue
to
do
regardless
I
just
may
not
do
it
on.
You
know
the
10th
floor
of
a
shopping
center
or
someplace.
That's
the
you
know,
the
lease
is
so
obnoxious
that
just
doesn't
make
financial
sense,
but
this
is
well
under
that
yeah.
K
K
G
G
One
thing
that
we
consider
a
little
bit
unique
is
to
potential
is
the
business
consulting
services
and
whether
that
is
marketing
accounting
legal
is
just
really
an
on-demand
ala,
carte
of
guidance
that
is
beyond
you
know,
just
normal
conversation,
and
we
see
that
as
a
revenue
model
to
help
to
help
as
well
and
then
the
last
aspect
outside
of
the
people
is
the
space
rental
in
the,
and
we
see
the
testing
centers
is
being
able
to
support
on
a
stable
basis
that
isn't
really
dictated
by
the
amount
of
people
that
are.
You
know
enrolled.
K
G
Haven't
that
hasn't
been
something
that
has
been
considered,
but
that
I
mean
other
than
in
the
testing
area.
Of
course
the
testing
area
would
have
those,
but
you
know
that's
that's
an
interesting.
You
know
thought
I
haven't
really
thought
about.
It,
too
think
that
if
people
needed
their
own
spaceman
in
this
day
and
age
without
laptops,
our
I
mean
I.
Don't
want
to
take
for
granted
that
everybody
that's
hopping.
Your
business
would
be
operating
that
way,
so
it
would
be
somebody
I
think
about,
but
I
wasn't
considering
that
at
this
time,
okay,.
K
And
then,
when
I
was
reading
through
the
application,
I
know,
you
said
there
would
be
a
jukebox
downstairs,
the
possible
event
space
up
upstairs
on
the
roof.
I
was
just
curious.
If
you
think,
would
any
of
that
noise
be
a
factor
for
either
the
workspace
or
the
testing
center
like
we
would
you
have
to
schedule
the
tests
kind
of
around
when,
when
those
so
you.
G
So
the
testing
center
is
on
the
south
side
over
by
court.
Street,
so
I
feel
that
the
there
and
I
thought
about
that
from
the
testing
side.
That
is
partitioned
far
enough.
If
you
look
there
there,
there
caddy
corner
from
each
other,
so
the
front
side
that
would
have
noise
and
obviously
the
pinball
machines
is
a
concern
as
well.
G
So
what
we
would
want
to
do
is
really
a
study
on
a
noise
insulation
and
making
sure
that
that
that
is
contained
certainly
would
be
a
study
that
would
be
investigated,
because
the
last
thing
we
want
is
to
have
people
trying
to
be
in
a
quiet
environment.
Being
you
know,
blips
and
bleeps
being
being,
you
know,
heard
from
their
proximity.
G
K
G
Know
I
think
the
economics
dictate
that
answer,
but
I
would
tell
you
that
stable
income
on
a
consistent
basis
is
far
more
valuable
than
than
ad-hoc.
You
know,
one-off,
even
if
it's
at
a
higher,
you
know
monthly
price,
so
I
mean
it's
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be.
It
would
be
appealing
to
have
a
full-time
bar
there.
Now
I
can
tell
you.
This
is
just
myself
personally
with
replay
itself
there's
a
lot
of
businesses
that
combine
a
bar
and
an
arcade,
and
they
call
it
a
bar
Kade.
G
So
many
trademarked
it,
but
that's
it's
a
thing:
I
don't
drink
and
my
family
doesn't
drink.
So
I
didn't
feel
good
about
creating
a
business
that
I
didn't
understand.
So
that's
why
otherwise
I
probably
would
create
some
sort
of
tied
interaction
between
Ark,
a
bar
in
replay.
It's
just
not
my
business.
That
I
understand.
Okay,.
L
You
mayor
good
evening,
mr.
Cheney
I
very
much
appreciated
your
presentation
and
I.
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
detailed
questions.
I,
look
at
pretty
much
the
uses
and
look
at
what
the
city's
needs
are
with
the
various
plans
that
we
have
in
place,
but
as
far
as
the
the
structure
on
the
innovative
Technology
Center
I
looked
at
the
Pearson
VUE,
basically
contracting
with
them.
Also
the
stem
center
franchising
and
and
I
understand
the
rental.
I
guess
is
what
you're
getting
at.
L
G
When
I
know
a
lot
about
the
background
of
it
and
I'm,
not
that
familiar
with
running,
not
running
setting
up
a
non-profit,
so
I
think
there's
more
discovery
on
whether
or
not
we
would
run
it
as
a
nonprofit
organization,
or
we
would
run
it
as
a
for-profit
organization,
but
any
of
the
independent
business
being
done
and
the
upstairs
would
all
be
under
one
one
under
one
roof.
I.
L
Appreciate
your
candor
as
far
as
innovative
Technology
Center
as
far
as
looking
at
the
city's
interest
in
that
and
also
testing
the
market,
I
just
want
to
be
completely
honest
with
you
as
well.
From
my
perspective,
if
it
was
Mike
property,
this
is
something
that
you
and
I
could
talk
to
much
more
detail,
but
this
is
on
my
property
and
I
have
to
look
at
what
the
published
needs
are
for
the
city
and
and
I.
L
L
But
if
it
doesn't
happen,
I
don't
know
if
I
have
an
opportunity
to
address
you
again
this
evening,
but
I
simply
want
you
to
encourage
I'm
sure
you
will
anyway,
you
sound
like
a
person
that
isn't
going
to
stop
until
they
achieve
what
they're
looking
for
and
if
it's
there,
you
put
it
there,
regardless
of
what
or
what
other
people
are
saying
so
I
think
it
might
be
worth
trying
somewhere
in
town
I.
Don't
know
that
I
could
support
this.
L
B
B
M
Thank
You
mayor
commissioners,
my
name
is
Katie
Cole
with
a
Hill
Ward
Henderson
law,
firm,
600,
Cleveland
streets,
800,
Clearwater
and
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you
this
evening.
I
want
to
say
that
twofold
one
just
to
be
able
to
speak
to
you
about
this
topic
that
it's.
Secondly,
the
effort
that
your
city
manager
and
the
staff
has
done
over
the
past
six
weeks
during
the
pandemic
to
continue
the
business
of
the
city,
moving
forward
figuring
out
an
effective
way
to
host
these
virtual
meetings.
M
It
is
greatly
appreciated,
not
all
of
the
communities
that
I
work
in
have
done
the
same
thing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
applaud
your
staff
for,
and
you
all
for,
supporting
that,
because
it's
greatly
appreciated
by
the
private
sector
that
you
all
are
doing
that.
So,
as
Miss
lemon
said,
we
represent
Dena
me
holdings
and
Nick
and
Leon
I'm,
a
ver,
modest
and
hostess
as
well.
M
Excuse
me,
Colonel,
Meletis
and
I
knew
I
would
say
that
one
wrong,
but
and
before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
go
through
a
little
history.
Our
clients
and
the
proposers
worked
last
fall
talking
to
staff
and
some
folks
around
the
city
about
these
opportunities
and
in
January,
submitted
an
unsolicited
bid
to
the
city
for
the
acquisition
of
this
property.
M
The
CRA
staff
requested
more
information,
so
they
provided
some
more
information
in
February,
some
more
information
in
April
and
been
final
package
that
really
brought
all
of
those
prior
submittals
together
as
part
of
what
you
have
before
you
today.
So
we
understand
that
there
were
two
unsolicited
bids
prior
to
the
advertisement
and-
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
this-
one
which
is
differs
predominantly
because
it
has
a
residential
component
as
opposed
to
the
second
floor
office
component.
So
with
that
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Nick.
M
H
H
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
thank
the
commissioners
and
the
staff
and
everyone
involved
in
all
of
their
efforts
that
they've
done
in
implementing
the
procedures.
As
Katie
was
saying,
this
is
a
lot
to
put
together.
Everyone
has
done
a
great
job
and
especially
with
the
situation
we
have
now
going
on
with
the
code
of
19,
some
of
you.
If
not
all
of
you
may
recognize
me,
since
I've
appeared
before
you
on
several
other
projects
that
we've
done
here
in
the
city
of
tarpon
and
currently
involved
in
in
the
city
of
tarpon.
H
I
used
wheat
because
we
are
a
family-owned
and
operated
business.
We've
been
in
business
in
Tarpon
over
30
years,
and
our
third
generation
tarpon
springs
family,
but
in
tarpon
for
all
these
years
and
seeing
that
property,
we
felt
compelled
to
get
involved
with
it
to
submit
an
unsolicited
proposal
that
will
reflect
the
CRA
goals
and
contribute
to
the
beautification
of
the
downtown
area.
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement
that
that
we
need
to
do
something
with
that
property.
H
We're
very
excited
about
the
being
potentially
developing
this
in
that
it
would
be
the
first
new
building
in
that
area.
For
virtually
80
years
or
more
as
you're
all
aware,
those
buildings
down
have
been
around
a
long
time
we
consulted
with
John
Hoffman.
Some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
his
vast
experience
in
working
in
the
historic
district
district
and
preservation
of
Tarpon
Springs
I'd
like
to
give
him
a
special
thanks
to
John
for
contributions
and
vision
on
project.
H
H
L
H
H
M
M
So
I
think
we
won't
take
too
much
of
your
time,
because
you
have
the
proposals
in
front
of
you
which
have
a
lot
of
the
details,
but
for
the
purpose
of
the
record
and
moving
forward
I
think
it's
important
to
note
why
we
feel
that
this
proposal
is
best
for
the
city
of
Turpan
Springs.
The
first
thing
is
that
it
meets
the
criteria
for
mixed-use
development,
as
Miss
lemon
said.
M
As
a
reference,
the
on
the
city's
website
for
over
a
year
has
been
a
general
information
form
dated
January
of
2019
that
talks
about
this
property
and
the
very
first
relevant
priority
speaks
about
it
being
a
mixed-use
process
for
this
property
was
first
for
commercial
and
or
second-floor
residential
and
a
third-floor
being
permitted
by
conditional
use,
and
that's
exactly
what
tsunami
has
brought
to
you.
It's
a
first
for
ret
retail,
commercial
in
a
second
floor
and
third
floor
residential.
M
It
meets
the
city's
vision
for
building
with
design
and
quality
and
historical
integrity.
As
annexed
a
'td.
Mr.
Hoffman
has
probably
been
one
of
the
most
prolific
designers
in
downtown
Tampa,
doing
restorations
of
historic
properties
and
has
appeared
before
you
all
and
the
Historic
Preservation
Board.
The
number
of
the
properties
in
downtown
tarpon
springs
many
of
listed
in
the
proposal
and
I
think
that's
important
to
note
that,
while
the
renderings
that
were
included
in
the
plan
show
what
is
an
iconic
building,
it
is
fits
in
with
house.
M
Tarpon
springs
feels
and
the
other
historic
presentations
that
have
been
there.
The
proposal
activates
both
tarpon
Avenue
and
Court
Street.
You
heard
mr.
Cheney
talk
about
Court,
Street
being
underutilized,
and
that
is
important.
It's
important
to
have
access
and
opportunities
on
both
sides.
It's
really
interesting
I
did
the
CRA
s.
M
You
know
all
many
communities
go
through
this
and
when
I
was
looking
at
this
proposal
and
the
developments-
and
they
asked
I-
had
to
think
about
a
project
that
I
recently
worked
on
in
Safety
Harbor,
which
had
a
very
similar
expectation
that
has
been
hugely
successful
since
opening
combining
retail
and
restaurant.
On
the
first
floor,
this
one
had
office
on
the
second
floor
and
residential.
M
This
is
the
only
proposal
which
provides
specific
and
achievable
schedule
of
work
and
opportunities.
I
know
in
the
PowerPoint
presentation.
Mr.
Chaney
did
provide
a
schedule,
but
you're
dealing
with
a
developer
who's
familiar
with
tarpon
springs,
familiar
with
your
staff,
familiar
with
the
processes
and
can
get
things
done.
The
financial
aspects
of
this
deal
work
for
them,
they're,
supporting
documentation
in
the
proposal
with
respect
to
that
and
they're
ready
to
get
started
immediately.
This
is
not
a
speculative
proposal.
M
This
is
a
real
proposal
ready
to
go
to
support
the
downtown
it
offers
residential
in
downtown,
where
there's
a
limited
amount
of
development.
Today
again,
it's
definitely
a
sure
thing.
So
really,
yes,
with
I'm,
sure,
have
very
specific
questions.
I
won't
go
through
each
of
the
technical
aspects.
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
that
this
proposal
did
address
those
very
technical
aspects.
M
It
talked
about
the
criteria
for
approval
and
the
developer's
background,
and
while
those
things
weren't
specific,
though
those
are
things,
the
city
saw
information
about
in
2019
when
it
went
out
for
RFP,
and
so
the
proposal
felt
that
it
was
important
to
provide
you
that
justification
and
that
authority.
So
you
knew
what
you
were
getting
was
a
sure
thing
and
that
it
would
the
timeline
60
days
to
press,
submit
clean
hands,
reservation
board,
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
for
site
plan
approval
and
then
conditional
use
approval
for
the
third
floor.
M
So
while
there
are
details
to
refine
with
respect
to
the
exact
square
footages
and
the
number
of
units
that
would
be
supported
by
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
the
city
boards,
that's
certainly
a
process
that
Dena
means
very
familiar
with
and
looks
forward
to,
proceeding
with
and
and
working
with,
the
city
staff.
On
specifically,
so
we
won't
belabor
going
through
line
by
line
in
each
of
the
pictures.
M
I
think,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
before
you
enough
that
I
usually
use
the
ELMO,
so
me
sharing
my
screen
on
my
iPad
was
not
going
to
work
for
me
too.
Tonight.
I
knew
that
also
had
confidence
that
you
all
were
looking
at
the
beautiful
picture
that
mr.
Hoffman
provided
of
the
elevations
of
Tarpon
Avenue.
How
that
third
floor
is
recessed
and
it
really
gives
the
flavor
of
walking
down
Tarpon
Avenue
and
is
reflective
of
the
other
historic
buildings
that
are
there.
B
B
You
proposed
you
to
have
retail
on
the
first
floor
and
residential
on
the
second
or
third
floor.
I
know
on
the
first
request
on
the
other
package
to
shows
that
you
wanted
to
have
eight
apartments
on
the
second
floor
and
another
eight
on
the
third
floor,
total
of
16,
and
then
we
receive
an
email
saying
that
was
an
oversight
and
really
didn't
say:
what
is
you
desire?
What
are
you
looking
for
mrs.
Cole?
Would
you
please
explain
what
do
you
have
in
mind
sure.
B
M
M
B
B
One
thing
that
I
want
to
make
clear
and
I'm
sure
mr.
Murrow
modest
knows
that
that
the
the
parking
is
very
limiting
you
downtown,
even
though
my
goal
and
the
goal
of
my
fellow
commissioners
is
to
provide
parking,
stay
parking
garage
in
the
future.
Of
course,
we
don't
know
when
this
is
going
to
happen,
how
many
parking
spaces
you
think
you're
going
to
need,
having
retail
on
the
bottom
floor,
residential
in
a
second
and
residential
there's.
M
Currently,
not
parking
proposed
on
the
site
because
of
the
available
parking
in
downtown
so
generally
in
urban
areas
like,
for
example,
in
downtown
Clearwater
and
in
downtown
st.
Pete,
obviously
much
more
intense
areas,
but
they
don't
have
any
parking
requirement
for
residential
uses
in
downtown
because
of
the
expectation
of
mobility
and
walking
so
again
with
the
retail
uses
that
it's
not
required
for
parking
currently
in
that
downtown
core
area.
Pursuant
to
the
metrics
and
so
I
think,
tanaami
is
comfortable
that
they
can
provide
a
pretty
intense
project.
D
B
You
I'm
sure
you
know
that
compatibility
is
very,
very
important
and
we're
very
concerned
with
that.
The
two
buildings
on
the
sites
on
both
sides
of
the
of
the
lot
are
story
so
in
order
to
said
having
a
thirst,
a
three-story
building,
that's
going
to
be
a
concern
unless
you
have
a
recess
on
the
third
floor.
So
when
you
driving
by
or
walking
on
Tarpon
Avenue,
you
only
see
two
floors
instead
of
three,
so
there
would
be
more
desirable
to
me.
N
M
Think
on
you
can
see
on
the
front
page
of
the
plans
as
well
as
I
can
show
you
here.
This
is
the
Tarkin
Avenue
proposal
and
you
can
see
how
the
third
floor
is
set
back.
So
you
see
the
second
floor,
has
a
facade
and
has
a
transom
at
the
top
and
excuse
my
architectural
language,
and
that
indicates
it's
very
similar
and
consistent
with
two
storey
buildings
and
because
there
is
a
patio
of
up
top
and
the
third
floor
from
that
rooftop
line.
B
A
B
A
A
In
Tarpon,
Springs
and
being
a
family
from
Tarpon
Springs,
it's
nice,
seeing
the
two
applicants
are
here
locally
and
have
businesses
around
Tarpon,
Springs
and
and
want
to
stay
in
Tarpon
Springs.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
all
bringing
that
datian
forward
and
having
desire
to
see
a
nice
project
on
this
piece
of
property.
I
just
want
to
touch
base
on
a
couple
questions.
The
design
component
looks
nice.
Katie
mentioned
something
lines
of.
A
C
M
That
is
that
was
included
on
page
10
of
the
application
was
looking
from
the
time
that
we
signed
a
contract
with
the
city,
so
not
from
the
approval
of
its
granted
tonight
the
approval
to
negotiate
with
the
city.
It
wouldn't
be
60
days
from
them,
but
60
days
from
the
time
the
contract
sign,
based
on
conversations
and
reading
a
staff
report.
It's
anticipated
the
attorney
desires
a
development
agreement.
M
There
would
need
to
be
times
to
prepare
the
plans
specifically
and
incorporate
those
into
the
purchase
sale
contract
as
well
as
they
know,
and
so,
but
from
the
time
that's
memorialized.
The
developer
feels
like
60
days,
is
reasonable
to
submit
to
the
press
report
for
floor
plans
and
elevation
approval
and
then
move
forward
after
that.
A
H
Believe
we
really
have
to
play
it
by
what
the
market
you
know
drives.
You
know
in
downtown
I
mean
everyone's
very
familiar
with
the
businesses
that
are
down
there.
We
have,
we
open,
do
whatever
then
come
in
and
stimulate
you
know,
people
coming
downtown,
you
know
we're
having
more
and
more
functions
downtown
in
the
evening,
and
so
something
that
would
you
know
enhance.
That
is
what
we're
looking
for.
H
A
H
One
of
the
things
that
go
into
the
design
in
that
possibility
that
maybe
one
person
for
one
entire
space
only
subdivided
into
four
spaces
all
that's
kind
of
work
into
playing
for
this
property,
and
we
feel
that
it's
a
critically
critical.
It
really
needs
to
be
that,
as
you
mentioned,
we
could
have
someone
that
wants
applicant,
so
you
have
to
be
versatile.
What
you're.
H
A
And
then
just
a
touching
the
retail
element,
I
love
the
retail
element
in
downtown
I-
think
there's
a
desire
for
it
in
the
need
for
it
and
I.
Think
there's
a
shortfall
of
apartments
to
rent
in
downtown,
what's
is,
would
beat
with
eight
to
ten
be
realistic
for
you
all
I
mean.
Would
that
be
okay
still
if
the
density
can
get
greater
than
ten
well.
H
Of
course,
we'd
like
to
be
density
up,
you
know
as
much
as
we
can
it's.
You
know
it
does
make
a
difference,
but
you
know
we
have
looked
at
it
within
that
those
numbers.
You
know
and
one
of
the
things
and
we
realize
that
we
have
to
work
with
the
city
and
the
staff
to
get
to
what
that
that
finding
numbers
will
be
yes,
I
believe
it
work.
H
I
mean
I,
think
that
everyone's
aware
of
illegal
parties
or
anything
that
right
that
downtown
area
they
are
they're
in
high
demand
people
like
it
down
there,
it's
it's
a
nice
place
to
be
I
mean
it
really
is
it
as
atmosphere
always
known.
So
it's
nothing.
You
know
they
work,
it
wouldn't
work.
We
wouldn't
wouldn't
suppose,
have
to
look
at.
That
is
economics
involved
in
all
this,
of
course,
you
know
as
well.
It's
not
just
the
project
itself.
H
A
Cool
well
thanks,
thanks
again
for
being
willing
to
submit
an
application
and
trying
to
make
the
place
you,
we
all
call
home
a
better
place
and
a
better
downtown,
more
vibrant,
I
love.
The
design
I
wouldn't
recommend
flying
a
kite
from
the
top
story,
but
you
know
hey.
Why
not,
but
the
architecture
looks
great
and
I
really
I,
like
the
concept
of
the
retail
downstairs
and
residential,
upstairs
a
lot
too.
So,
thanks
again
for
your
application.
Thank.
J
Care
penny
Thank,
You
Merrick
again
just
to
thank
the
applicants.
I
want
to
thank
you,
Katie
for
being
here
tonight
and
represent
them.
It's
always
nice
to
see
it
from
your
face,
especially
on
a
project
like
this.
So
thank
you
mr.
Mavericks,
for
your
presentation
at
night.
Looking
at
your
back
up,
it's
impressive
some
of
the
properties
that
you
all
owned
in
around
town
and
for
me
that
always
goes
a
long
way
to
see
somebody's
commitment
and
know
that
they
have
a
lot
of
skin
in
the
game
from
the
get-go.
J
So
for
me
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
First
and
foremost,
it
obviously
takes
a
lot
of
work
to
put
something
like
that,
together
with
you
know,
various
different
resources
that
go
into
it
and
obviously
the
different
vendors
that
come
into
play,
whether
it's
John,
Hoffman
or
flagship
bank,
and
just
meeting
with
contractors
and
itself.
This
can
be
enough
to
make
you
go
crazy,
so
I
just
want
to
touch
on
something
initially
which
which
miss
Cole
mentioned,
which
is
the
city's
application.
J
That's
been
available
to
the
public
for
over
a
year,
one
of
the
first
things
that
draws
my
attention.
There
is,
after
you
get
through
to
about
page
5.
It
has
in
bold
the
city's
vision
for
this
property
and
paragraph
1
of
that
city's
vision
and
the
second
to
last
sentence
says
city's
vision
for
this
property
is
first
for
commercial
and
or
second-floor
residential.
J
So
you
know
you
have
these
people
in
downtown
they're,
literally
supporting
the
businesses
in
the
downstairs
and
on
Tarpon
Avenue,
whether
it's
the
meat
market
or
the
hair
salon
or
the
yoga
studio
and
I.
Think
that's
really
what
we've
been
striving
for
as
a
community.
For
you
know
basically
over
a
decade
so
for
me
to
tab,
the
residential
component
goes
a
long
way.
You
know
people
used
to
say
years
ago.
Oh
we,
you
know,
we've
adopted
this
whole
walkability
thing.
J
I
J
So
you
know
there
is.
There
is
no
parking
requirement
for
this
particular
piece
of
infill
property,
but
I
do
think
that
it.
You
know
just
furthers
our
discussion
on
the
board
about
the
need
and
the
demand
for
that
and
how
we
try
and
address
that
moving
forward
regarding
the
retail
space
downstairs
or
retail
or
commercial
space
downstairs.
I
definitely
think
that
it's
smart
to
kind
of
design
it
as
flex
base
and
see
where
it
goes.
J
I
think
that,
as
the
city
are
as
the
applicant
breaks
ground
on
this
property,
I
think
you'll
see
it
become
a
pretty
big
buzz
around
town,
or
at
least
we
would
certainly
hope
so
and
throughout
the
construction
process.
I
think
you'll
see
a
variety
of
business
owners
or
conceptual
ideas
arise.
That
will
basically
lease
the
downstairs.
The
downstairs
will
lease
itself
so
conceptually
to
leave
it
as
flex
base
and
be
open.
J
Regarding
you
know,
one
big,
tenon
or
multiple
tenants,
I
think
is
the
route
is
the
right
route
to
go
as
far
as
the
third
story,
you
know
it's
been
discussed
tonight
that
that
would
be
that
approval
would
need
to
come
as
a
conditional
use.
So
there's
a
an
additional
layer
there
not
only
for
other
advisory
boards,
but
also
for
this
commission
coming
back
so
I.
J
Don't
have
any
I,
don't
have
any
issue
with
that
I
think
it
was
smart
to
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
right
term,
but
to
layer-cake
it
I
guess
tore
the
the
third
story
is
set
back
off
of
Parkman
Avenue
and
I
would
also
mention
that
at
least
one
of
the
joining
buildings,
even
though
it's
single-story
the
ceilings
are
really
high.
So
it's
probably
a
story
and
a
half,
so
it
won't
look
schematically
speaking,
it
won't
look
out
of
place,
have
three-story
building
there.
In
my
opinion,
mr.
J
H
J
Then
the
I'll
just
mention
that
the
in
the
back
of
the
interior
or
residential
corridor
I
just
mentioned
to
you
how
nice
that
looks
really
looks.
First-Class
and
professional
almost
looks
boutique
hotel
ish,
which
leads
me
to
my
next
question.
Have
you
I'm
sure
you're
aware
that
in
this
area
you
legally
and
permitted,
you
can
have
the
short-term
rentals.
So
my
question
is
given
that
the
project
looks
so
nice
and
this
interior
corridor
to
me
looks
like
I,
said:
very
boutique
hotels.
H
It's
not
something:
we've
we've
discussed
it,
we
haven't,
you
know,
decided
on
it.
You
know
it's
going
to
come
down
to
economics,
it's
going
to
come
down
to
demand,
and
you
know,
and
if
we
have
enough
to
me,
if
we
have
enough
full-time
residents,
we
that
you
know
have
it
that
way,
but
you
know
once
again:
we
you
mentioned
the
design.
We
feel
it's
going
to
be
very
appealing,
potentially
to
not
only
people
that
want
to
run
it
year-round,
someone
that
may
want
to
come
in.
You
know
to
spend
three
months.
J
Sir
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
have
any
other
questions.
I
just
had
a
few
in
terms
of
the
one
or
two
bedrooms
and
the
short-term
rentals,
but
I
would
say
overall,
I
think
that
the
residential
component
of
this
presentation
is
the
way
to
go
for
us
as
a
community
and
I.
Think
dollar-for-dollar
will
have
the
biggest
positive
economic
benefit
in
to
our
downtown,
and
this
project
will
wholeheartedly
act
as
as
a
catalyst
to
help
propel
us
into
the
future.
So,
thank
you
again.
Thank
you.
B
K
Thank
You
mayor
I
want
to
thank
miss
Cole
for
the
presentation
presentation
super
detailed
as
per
usual
mr.
maverick
mattis.
Thank
you
and
your
family
for
your
commitment
to
tarpon
springs
at
another
project.
That
looks
promising
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
had
a
big
list
of
questions,
but
most
of
them
have
been
answered.
K
H
I
know
we
we
I
want
to
be
more
effective
start,
no
I
mean
it
won't
affect
the
started
in
your
completion
date,
I
mean
we
have
to
in
working
with
the
staff
at
the
city.
We're
going
to
get
to
what
that
number
is.
Everything
will
come
in
based
on
that.
So
therefore
you
know
we're
moving
forward
on
whatever
that
is
going
to
be
construction,
wise,
it's
going
to
be
10!
Well,
you
know
we'd
like
to
see
it
be
more,
but
we
have
to
go
with.
You
know.
J
K
L
Thank
You
mayor
I'm
gonna
save
my
comments
as
with
mr.
Cheney's
presentation
when
you
get
to
Commissioner
comments
after
this
also
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
the
staff,
but
this
is
cold.
You
you're
an
attorney
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarification.
Are
you
going
to
be
the
lead
negotiator
for
this?
If
you
get
the
green
light.
M
L
H
B
C
Have
is
from
Bonita
produce
901
Bayshore
Drive,
honorable
mayor
commissioners
and
city
manager,
I
am
in
favor
the
Dena
me
project
item
to
be
for
the
representation
of
the
community.
Mr.
Mohammed
s
has
done
everything
he
has
asked.
He
was
asked
to
do.
He
has
proven
his
dedication
to
the
community
with
each
project
he
has
completed
in
Turpan
Springs.
He
is
acutely
aware
of
the
designs
for
tarpon
springs
and
everything
he
does
has
been
with
excellence,
and
he
has
gone
above
and
beyond
and
everything
he
does.
C
I
asked
you
to
support
this
project
as
well,
because
it
would
be
in
line
with
the
beauty
of
our
community
and
he
lives
here
and
knows
we'll
be
watching.
Matis
is
heavily
invested
and
his
character,
honesty
and
integrity,
shine
and
tarpon
springs
and
every
project
he
produces.
Do
the
right
thing
and
award
this
to
Donati
holdings
and
walk
with
pride
in
Tarpon
Springs
air.
That
was
the
only
one
we
had
to
be
read
into
the
record.
C
I
also
wanted
to
remind
you
that
today
we
received
three
emails
that
were
sent
directly
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
in
support
of
Dena
me
holdings
and
those
were
by
Robert
mang
megive
me
a
flagship
bank
attorney
George
and
Ryota
from
andreoli
law,
firm
and
David
Kinser
from
coastal
insurance
and
associates.
And
that's
all
you
know,
Thank.
B
You
we're
now
going
to
be
item
number
4,
which
is
the
aboard
discussion
of
the
application
I
like
to
to
thank
both
applicants
for
their
time
and
for
the
interest
to
develop
our
CRA
property
at
144
is
Tarpon
Avenue
for
the
record
I'd
like
to
declare
that
the
mr.
Mohammed
II
spoke
to
me
about
these
being
interesting
that
he
wanted
to
develop
this
property
several
months
ago.
B
Commissioner
Tara
penny
also
mentioned
that
earlier
that
our
seeing
a
city
vision
is
for
this
property
to
have
a
structure
of
mixed
uses,
with
commercial.
On
the
first
floor
and
residential
on
the
second
floor
and
third
floor,
of
course,
third
floor.
It's
conditional
use,
so
we
have
a
process
that
he
needs
to
go
through
without
I
like
to
thank
both
applicants
and
I
like
to
say
that
I
have
a
few
questions
that
I
like
to
ask
our
our
staff
I'd
like
to
ask
mrs.
McNeil
mr.
Lucas
the
building
floor
area,
the
floor
area
ratio.
B
F
The
floor,
this
is
Pat
McNeese,
Acting,
Director
planning
inside
the
floor
area
ratio
cap
right
now
in
this
transfer.
Just
t5b
is
1.25
so
to
explain
that
to
the
people,
that
kind
of
means
that
one
the
area
of
the
lot
is
you
can
you
can
have
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
percent
of
the
floor
of
the
area
in
the
building.
So
we've
estimated
the
floor
areas
for
both
of
these
proposals.
They
spend
a
very
conceptual
presentation
tonight.
F
Holdings
actually
did
list
their
floor
area
in
their
application
of
3.0
and
the
other
one
we
estimated
at
about
2.5,
so
both
are
over
the
current
cap
of
the
transected
30m,
so
staff
would
be
looking
at
bringing
along
with
whichever
proposal
is
chosen,
bringing
some
adjustments
to
the
board
to
kind
of
work
with
the
applicant
and
work
with
the
board
on
what
you
want
to
do
with
that.
Transect
is.
B
This
something
that
is
negotiable
with
the
African,
yes,
okay,
thank
you.
The
maximum
density
for
the
key
5b
trans
is
22
euros
per
acre
with
a
density
transfer
Commission
enough,
but
the
Cure's
touched
on
that
a
little
bit.
The
dynamic
holdings
application
is
way
above
that,
can
you
explain
in
on
to
the
audience
exactly
how
does
work?
How
density
transfer
works.
F
Well,
density
transfer
is
fairly
simple.
Basically,
property
is
identified
where
the
assigned
to
density,
which
is
which
is
assigned
in
dwelling
unit.
It's
per
acre,
it's
not
going
to
use
either
the
owner
has
put
something
else
on
there,
something
commercial
or
or
whatever
it
is,
and
they're
not
interested
in
ever
developing
the
residential
density.
That's
dwelling
units
that
can
be
sold
or
given
or
whatever
it
is,
and
Trant
and
transferred
to
a
property
that
can
take
that
density
up
to
a
maximum.
F
That's
in
the
code,
which
is
the
22
dwelling
units
per
acre
that
you
cited
for
this
transect
and
that
can
be
used
on
that
property
than
the
original
property
where
the
density
has
been
transferred
away
from
recorded,
does
a
restrictive
covenant
that
says
you
know
Eddie.
You
can't
never
develop
this
density
on
this
property.
That's
how
density
and
it's
Burk
the.
F
It
should
be
within
the
transect
or
the
special
area
plan,
but
we
can
look
at
the
code
and
yet,
with
the
with
the
year
successful
project
and
look
at
what
we
can
do,
okay,
it
may
be
able
to
come
from
outs.
The
special
area
plan.
Thank.
N
That's
the
question
that
I
would
probably
leave
up
to
mr.
Trask
as
he
would
be
the
one
assisting
with
the
negotiation
and
the
drafting
of
any
type
of
development
agreement
or
the
contract
I
can
state.
In
general
terms,
we
would
be
looking
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
compliant
with
the
florist,
a
cute
and
with,
as
you
mentioned
before,
what
Turpin
Springs
redevelopment
plan
as
long
as
it
fits
within
that
and
and
the
terms
are
compliant
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
ordinances,
or
there
have
been
negotiations
to
amend
the
provisions.
B
Thank
you
to
my
fellow
commissioners,
I'd
like
to
express
my
my
desire
that
I
think
the
application
for
the
denominator
called
in-kind.
It
fits
the
what
would
be
looking
for
for
years.
It
is
it
kind
of
covers
the
mission
that
we
had
to
have
a
mixed
uses.
Do
you
have
retail
on
the
first
floor
and
residential
on
the
second
or
third
floor,
so
my
favor
is
to
go
with
that.
Of
course.
That's
the
next
item
that
will
be
ranking
this
application.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
go
to
vice
mayor
car.
A
A
I
do
want
to
point
out
to
the
board
as
well.
Mr.
CooCoo
lacus
has
some
property
off
ring
and
Orange
Street
and
he
went
through
the
application
process
on
and
I
believe
they
were.
They
held
off
actually
developing
that
property,
because
there
was
no
comps
in
the
area
to
actually
show
the
demand
for
the
pricing
that
they
were
looking
for
for
rent.
So
this
could
be
a
catalyst.
This
project,
if
approved
tonight
from
a
residential
standpoint,
two
other
projects
around
tarpon
springs
for
a
mixed-use
or
more
residential
areas
in
downtown
tarpon
springs.
A
So
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here
to
help
that
this
could
be
a
spark
in
an
area
that
could
use
some
additional
new
development
from
a
residential
standpoint
across
downtown
stretching
from
really
Martin
Luther
King
down
Safford
up
to
Live
Oak
on
that
old
corridor.
So
again,
I
think
both
applications
did
a
great
job
and
the
design
aspect
and
really
their
concepts
that
came
down
behind
it.
A
J
J
An
application
will
actually
see
this
project
come
to
fruition,
but
again
just
wanted
to
give
my
thanks
and
I
do
think
that
I
mean
I
can
save
it
for
the
ranking
of
the
applicants,
but
I
think
that
Dena
me
holding
is
my
preference,
given
the
everything
that
we've
discussed
tonight.
Most
importantly
noted
would
be
the
residential
component
in
the
economic
benefits
associated
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah
Thank
You
mayor
I
definitely
want
to
just
acknowledge
Toonami
Holdings
and
penny
tree
capital
for
both
representing
locals,
trying
to
improve
their
communities.
So
big
thanks
to
mr.
Cheney
and
mr.
Mavericks,
for
their
interest
and
potential
investment
in
this
project.
Overall,
though,
I
believe
that
the
denomination's
proposal
is
just
more
congruent
with
our
written
City
vision
in
the
area
simply
because
of
the
residential
aspect,
so
I
know
we'll
discuss
the
rankings
next,
but
I
would
give
the
the
edge
to
Nami
Thank
You.
L
To
guilty
Thank
You
mayor
also
wish
to
thank
both
applicants,
but
just
for
their
time,
I
know
what
the
cost
of
putting
these
packages
are.
So
I
am
very
grateful
that
they're
willing
to
put
those
resources
in
place
without
knowing
the
outcome.
I
think
I'm,
pretty
transparent,
I've
gone
through
the
comprehensive
plan.
This
very
special
area
plan
the
downtown
redevelopment
plan
and
they
all
speak
of
a
mixed
use
with
residential
components.
So
that
sold
me
right
away.
I'm,
hoping
that
some
of
these
other
concepts
that
mr.
L
Cheney
put
out
this
evening
would
be
used
at
some
other
locations,
I'm,
not
saying
that
they
aren't
eat
it,
but
for
the
purpose
of
what
we're
looking
at
with
the
property
that
the
CRA
owns
I
think
we
have
to
follow
what
the
published
guidelines
are.
I
do
have
a
question
and
actually
a
couple
of
things
mayor,
but
just
one
simple,
one:
first
for
city
management,
of
course
it's
actually
aimed
at
MS,
McNeese,
I,
believe
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
floor
area
ratio.
L
The
the
transect
calls
for
the
maximum
of
one
point
to
1.25,
but
in
the
special
area
plan
for
a
property
spacing
target
Avenue
between
ring
and
pinellas
the
maximum.
In
this
few
point,
oh
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
it
in
it's.
My
understanding
that
the
special
area
playing
Trump's,
the
transect
is
that
correct,
mmm-hmm.
F
L
Okay,
so
Merritt
just
to
clarify
the
maximum
floor
area
ratios
2.0,
not
1.25,
that's
for
the
purpose
of
negotiation.
Secondly,
I
want
to
point
out
something
that
is
really
really
important.
The
city
manager
and
I
discussed
this
I
think
there's
going
to
be
some
additional
discussion
that
we're
going
to
need
to
do.
L
L
Elliot,
who
is
our
city
attorney
some
number
of
years
ago,
and
also
mr.
Hubbard
well
well-versed
in
this
matter.
As
far
as
the
impact
fee,
credits
and
and
and
I
think,
we
need
to
kind
of
go
back
and
see
what
an
appropriate
timeline
is
not
something
arbitrary
like
ten
years.
So
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
is
part
of
this
process
to
pin
it
down
for
the
purpose
of
negotiating
this
property,
because
I
know
in
the.
L
Denominator,
edits,
which
I
believe
was
the
amount
of
impact
feast
would
be,
would
have
been
paid
by
the
Lewis
Hardware
if
they
had
been
built
today,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
larger
project.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
net
difference
in
that,
but
nevertheless
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
at
least
65,000,
whatever
the
impact
fees
are
to
be
reduced
by
65,000,
because
that
building
had
been
there
before.
However,
again
under
the
city
manager
or
former
city
manager's
guidelines,
it's
past
the
10
year
limit
that
she
had
invoked.
So
we
need
to
address
that.
L
Secondly,
as
I
between
the
two
applicants
that
there's
some
mr.
Trask
memorandum
is
fine
and
I
appreciate
him
doing
that.
His
first
paragraph
is
fine
as
far
as
ranking
the
applications
I
want
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
I'm,
not
from
ranking
anything
I'd
like
to
pick
one
application
and
negotiate
with
that
application
with
that
applicant,
and
if
that
negotiation
fails,
we
come
back
rather
than
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
move
from
one
to
the
other.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
what
his
thoughts
were.
L
Secondly,
at
some
point
and
it's
the
city,
city
managers,
I'm,
sorry
see
attorneys
memorandum-
it's
not
real
clear
on
this.
There's
this
business
of
negotiating
coming
back
to
the
Commission,
with
recommendation
with
a
as
far
as
what
the
project
would
be
with
the
details
of
it,
then
there
would
be
a
development
order
and
then
there
would
be
some
process
that
the
applicant
would
go
through
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
the
Historic
Preservation
Board.
L
Of
course,
the
TRC
and
then
plans
would
be
submitted
approved
and
then
there
would
be
a
groundbreaking
and
then
some
construction
and
then
would
be
a
lease
purchase.
Agreement
signed
I
think
at
some
stage
of
construction
I
think
we
need
to
actually
formalize
that
process.
So
there's
no
misunderstanding
between
whoever
the
applicant
is
in
the
city,
especially
me.
The
commissioners
I,
don't
want
that
problem
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
L
L
Mitsuko
is
the
musical
is
the
identified
herself
as
a
lead
negotiator,
she's,
an
attorney
and
I
strongly.
If
we
go
with
Adam
and
Dena
me
propose
I
strongly
recommend
that
we
have
mr.
trash
doing
the
negotiation
I'm,
not
sure
how
the
rest
of
the
board
feels
I've
always
wanted
to
go
attorney
to
attorney,
rather
than
attorney
to
city
manager.
I
think
the
way
mr.
Trask
is
structured,
the
process
and
his
memorandum.
He
is
looking
at
the
legal
and
planning
as
the
as
the
support
to
the
city
manager.
L
B
A
J
Sorry,
no
problem,
mayor
being
that
there's
only
two
applicants
and
we
all
have
one
that
we
believe
is
superior
to
the
other
I'm
of
the
same
opinion
as
commissioner
of
etiquetas
that
we
should
just
pick.
One
I
wouldn't
want
to
pick
one
or
rank
one,
and
then
you
know
somewhere
along
the
negotiations
of
the
development
agreement,
something
some
wires
get
crossed
and
you
know
we
draw
back
and
punt
to
the
second
applicant.
L
Holdings
mayor
and
again,
I
I,
think
ranking
them
is
mistake.
I
think
we
need
to
pick
one
with
a
very
clear
understanding
that
that's
who
would
be
negotiate
with
and
if
there's
a
bump
in
the
road
I
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
there's
someone
waiting
to
take
over
I
think
we
need
to
get
over
that
bump
and
come
to
closure
on
this
thing.
I.
B
Understand
your
concern,
but
the
next
item
is
to
direct
the
city
manager
or
see
them
turning
whatever
we
decide,
and
then
we
make
a
motion
right
on
a
motion.
We
can
say
that
that
I
mean
I'm
just
talking
right
now,
if
we're
going
to
have
whoever
we
select,
then,
if
the
glaciations
fails,
they'll
have
to
come
back
to
the
to
the
borough
of
commissions.
Anyway,.
B
L
Moved
to
negotiate
begin
negotiating
greement
with
Dena
me
Holdings,
and
also
to
identify
the
city
attorney
as
the
negotiating
lead
negotiator.
If
his
Cole's
going
to
be
the
lead
negotiator
for
Dena
me,
elsewise
would
be
the
city
manager.
If
negotiators
can
be
one
of
the
principles
of
Dena
me
other
than
an
attorney
a.
K
I
It's
always
been
as
long
as
I've
been
standard
operating
procedure,
that
of
attorneys
involved
and
we
bring
in
our
attorney
so
this.
So
what
mr.
vadik
EULA
says
is
right
along
the
lines
of
what
we've
always
done.
You
know
I
like
to
tangle
with
miss
Cole.
We've
done
it
before
and
stuff,
but
under
goes
on
a
negotiation
or
something
like
this.
You
should
never
go
attorney
on
a
non-attorney,
so
that
would
be
standard
of
how
we'd
operate
from
mr.
Cole
mr.
I
K
N
Trask
was
asked
to
set
forth
a
procedure
in
order
to
hear
these
unsolicited
vids,
and
that
was
the
procedure
that
it
was
kind
of
set
forth
by
our
office
for
your
determination,
if
you
all
choose
not
to
rank
them
and
instead
choose
to
select
one
and
then,
if
that
negotiation
fails,
have
it
come
back
before
the
board?
That's
perfectly
fine,
but
that
was
the
procedure
that,
mr.
that
forth,
for
the
Commission
to
select.
If
they
would
like
to
proceed
on
okay.
L
Move
for
the
city
for
the
commute
CRA,
to
negotiate
with
konami
holdings
and
to
negotiate
with
the
nominee
holdings
for
an
agreement,
and
if
mrs.
Kohl
is
representing
Konami
as
the
lead
negotiators
and
negotiations
would
be
with
the
city
attorney
else.
If
it.
If
negotiation
is
with
one
of
the
Dena
means,
then
it
would
be
with
the
city
manager
and
that's
that's
it
right
there.
As
far
as
the
motion
would.
B
L
A
A
B
L
D
A
B
L
Me
right,
this
is
Commissioner.
Vatikiotis
I
wanted
to
get
clarification
on
the
impact
fees
that
I
mentioned.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
that
it's
the
impact,
the
discussion
that
I
provided,
that
we
need
to
meet
on
that
to
establish
a
clear
policy
and
also
to
have
a
formal
procedure
in
place
for
mr.
Trask
to
follow
as
far
as
what
the
Commission's
expectations
are
for
for
moving
from
one
item
to
the
to
the
other.
As
far
as
the
the
agreement,
the
scheduling
of
the
PNC,
the
Historic
Preservation,
Board
and
other
things.
L
L
Be
fine
yeah,
but
the
impact
visas
improve
for
15
20
years.
It's
been
that
10-year
of
sunset.
So
when
people
have
come
in
on
infill
projects,
they've
been
told
that
if
a
building
hasn't
been
there
for
ten
years,
they
don't
get
in,
they
don't
get
impact
feed
credits
I,
don't
particularly
as
far
as
I'm
concern
is
what
the
Commission
wants
to
continue
doing.
I'm
finding
that,
but
it's
based
on
on
a
policy
that
the
former
city
manager
had
put
in
place,
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
out
policy
anywhere
and
all
I'm
suggesting.
Is
that?
L
Because
this
is
past
the
ten
years,
this
particular
property
is
past
a
ten
year
time
frame?
Technically
they
would
not
be
do
any
impact
feed
credit.
So
I
don't
have
an
issue
at
all
with
providing
the
impact
feed
credits
that
were
there
from
the
Luas
hardware,
but
I'd
like
that
for
the
Commission
to
establish
a
policy
formally.
So
there's
no
confusion
about
that
in
the
future
and
that
if,
if
the
Commission
wishes
and
I
don't
think,
there's
any
objection
on
the
part
of
the
Commission
wishes
to
throw
those
impact.
A
I
just
want
to
chime
in
that
I
feel
that
the
board
just
to
prove
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
manager
to
go
move
forward
and
negotiations
regardless,
if
that's
part
of
the
policy
or
not
I,
feel
that
it's
part
of
the
negotiations
that
the
city
staff
has
a
negotiation
and
that's
part
of
the
offer
that
the
nanami
has
made
as
part
of
their
offer.
So
I
don't
feel
that
the
board
would
need
to
have
some
type
of
meeting
before
negotiations
were
to
start.
A
I
would
like
to
see
this
go
as
quickly
as
we
can
to
get
the
ball
rolling
and
break
ground
on
this
project.
From
the
stand,
point,
though,
is
I
would
be
happy
to
discuss
it
at
a
later
point,
I
think
sunsetting.
Any
impact
fees
that
have
already
been
on
a
property
greater
than
ten
years
is
a
thing
that
I
think
it's
taking
them
incentive
away
from
the
city
to
actually
provide
to
a
developer
and
provide
even
to
residential
standpoint
too.
A
So
I
would
be
in
favor
of
discussing
it,
but
in
this
project,
I
think
it's
best
to
go
ahead
and
ask
the
city
attorney
and
city
manager
to
move
forward
with
the
negotiations
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
would
support
it
still
reduction
in
fees
just
to
try
to
get
then
sent
a
portion
of
it
for
the
project
to
move
forward.
J
Thank
you
yeah.
This
just
touched
on
it
I
mean
I.
Would
I
would
agree
that
as
an
economic
incentive,
that
in
property
is
where
a
demolition
has
occurred
and
it's
been
greater
than
10
years.
That's
certainly
something
that
I
think
the
city
should
maybe
update
their
policy
as
it
relates
to
impact
fee
credits.
My
experience
with
that
particular
part
of
the
code
is
that
the
city
manager
organs
designee,
can
make
that
call
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
even
though
a
property
would
potentially
have
gone
outside
ten
year
mark.
K
L
No
I
what
I'm
getting
at
is
at
some
point.
You
need
to
address
this
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
effective
people
on
infill
properties
and
basically,
if
we're
going
to
continue
doing
redevelopment,
we
we
need
to
take
a
more
rational
approach
than
simply
stating
well,
if
a
property's
been
there
longer
or
if
it's
been
gone
longer
than
ten
years,
you
don't
get
in
fact,
feed
creditors
I
think
that's
completely
arbitrary
and
there's
some
rational
basis
for
changing
that.
To
encourage
redevelopment,
we
don't
need
to
do
that.
L
I'm,
not
suggesting
we
do
that
as
part
of
this
negotiation
at
all
I'm
simply
saying
to
be
mindful
of
that
and
at
some
point
we
need
to
address
that,
hopefully
sooner
than
later
and
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
city
manager,
of
course,
but
hopefully
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we're
going
to
address
this
for
the
whole
city
that
that
was
the
basis
for
my
comments.
Okay,
okay,.
B
A
Yeah
thanks
mayor
I,
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
staff
for
working
with
the
applicants
on
this
on
this
presentation
on
the
presentations
tonight.
I
do
want
to
stress
also
that
I
think
this
is
a
catalyst
to
the
area
and
really
it
could
be
a
spark
to
the
area
because
you've
got
the
property
off
Lime,
Street
and
ring
which
I
think
it's
steep.
Your
main
owns
that's
looking
to
develop
some
mixed-use
mr.
cook,
mr.
ku
caucus,
which
I
referenced
earlier
and
then
also
mr.
A
Cooley,
honest
who's,
a
CPA
on
the
corner
of
orange
Street
and
Safford
has
the
properties
as
well,
which
is
the
sponge
house
that
we
discussed,
and
these
are
all
properties
that
are
vacant
that
are
also
looking
I.
Think
to
do
some
development
on
so
I
think
this
is
a
good
start
from
the
CRA
to
see
a
continual
growth
in
the
area
and
I
just
want
to
say
great
job
to
the
rest
of
the
board
members,
and
thank
you
for
your
dedication
to
the
city.
K
L
Yes,
mayor
I
want
to
express
my
thanks
to
the
City
Commission
I
think
it
was
a
terrific
outcome
based
on
what
the
city's
needs
are
and
we've
taken
into
account,
publish
plans
that
we've
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on,
so
we
use
those
and
came
out
with
a
great
outcome.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
You
I
also
like
to
thank
everyone
involved
for
setting
up
these
video
comforters
tonight.
It
was
very,
very
productive,
very
professional,
and
also
we
like
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
this
week,
May
3rd,
through
May,
9th,
as
the
municipal
clerk's
week
and
I
like
to
recognize
for
our
city
clerk
and
our
deputy
clerk
and
all
the
staff
for
their
hard
work
and
dedication
to
to
us
to
the
BOC
and
to
the
people
of
Tarpon
Springs.