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Thank
you
mayor
our
heavenly
father
as
we
strive
to
serve
the
people
of
tarpon
springs
tonight.
We
ask
not
for
your
concern
for
us,
but
for
the
men
and
women
of
the
united
states
armed
forces
serving
abroad
who
face
danger
every
day
to
protect
us
as
we
exercise
our
rights
and
privileges
as
free
citizens
of
this
great
land.
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I
Okay,
just
to
clarify
mr
jump,
there's
no
public
comments,
correct.
I
Okay,
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
impact
fee
study
and
I'm
assuming
this
is
going
to
be
mr
herring
or
mark
yeah.
J
Thank
you
for
that
introduction
ron
good
evening.
Everyone.
My
name
is
peter
napoli
and
I'm
the
lead
consultant
on
this
project
from
stantec
and,
as
ron
said,
I'm
joined
with
joined
by
eric
brown,
my
colleague
who's
the
project
manager.
J
Okay,
we
have
a
a
brief
presentation
for
you
guys
today
that
summarizes
the
results
of
this
impact
fee
study.
As
ron
said,
we
we
looked
at
the
police
impact
fee,
the
fire
impact
fee,
library,
parks
and
recreation
and
general
government.
J
These
these
impact
fees
were
last
updated
in
2008.
So
it's
been
quite
some
time
and
essentially
impact
fees
are
a
mechanism
for
new
development
to
fund
the
cost
of
infrastructure
necessary
to
serve
growth.
J
The
fees
are
adjusted
annually
by
the
city
in
accordance
with
the
enr,
which
is
the
engineering
news
record
cost
of
construction
index.
The
current
impact
fees
are
shown
in
the
table
below
and
you
have
two
customer
classes.
Residential
and
non-residential
stantec
was
retained
this
year
to
evaluate
and
update
these
impact
impact
fees
as
appropriate,
incorporating
the
city's
asset
registry,
the
most
up-to-date
county
property
appraiser
data
and
the
local
census
data.
J
J
The
current
fees
reflect
the
plan
based
methodology
that
was
adopted
in
2008
and
that
methodology
essentially
is
based
on
the
system.
Expansion,
increments,
protected
new
development
and
this
relies
upon
level
of
service
standards
projected
into
the
future
for
each
of
these
departments
or
services.
J
As
I
said,
that
was
the
approach
taken
in
2008,
but
we
felt
this
year
that
the
standard
standards-based
approach
would
be
better
suited
for
the
city,
so
we
implemented
that
approach
and
that
spreads
the
cost
of
the
existing
system
across
all
of
the
equivalent
units
within
the
city.
This
is
the
most
common
industry
practice
for
these
types
of
fees.
J
J
Now
it
was
our
understanding.
The
direction
of
the
city
is
to
not
consider
any
increases
to
any
of
the
fees
or
rates
going
forward,
so
we
were
directed
to
present
to
you.
The
recommended
fees
at
a
rate
that
reflects
no
increase
to
either
residential
or
non-residential
properties,
and
you
have
the
ability
to
adopt
impact
fees
at
any
cost
recovery
below
100.
So
that's
why
you
can
adopt
these
fees
at
a
lower
percentage
to
avoid
any
increases
in
the
current
fee
schedule.
J
So
this
first
slide
here
shows
the
recommended
fees
adopted
at
the
lower
cost
recovery
percentages.
That's
shown
on
the
right
most
column.
You
can
see
that
cost
these
fees
represents
so
we'd
have
to
adopt
the
police,
fire
and
general
government
fees
at
a
lower
cost
recovery
in
order
to
avoid
any
increase
to
the
residential
and
non-residential
side.
J
This
slide
summarizes
the
lower
cost.
Recovery
and
you'll
see
that
for
the
non-residential
side
that
was
driving
most
of
the
need
for
this
lower
cost
recovery,
because
we
were
the
study,
results
showed
increases
on
the
non-residential
side
and
we
don't
want
to
increase
those
non-residential
fees.
So
at
these
cost
recoveries
we
are
maintaining
that
same
non-residential
fee
for
each
of
the
different
services.
J
Now
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
the
survey
that
we
did
of
similar
municipalities
throughout
the
state
that
also
charge
these
impact
fees
and
will
show
the
difference
between
current
and
proposed.
J
J
Fireside
you'll
see
that
the
current
fee
is
at
the
top
of
the
the
impact
fee
survey,
and
then
the
proposed
is
going
to
bring
you
to
the
middle
of
that
survey
and
then
same
situation
for
the
fire
impact
fee.
It's
the
you
you'd
be
adopting
the
the
exact
same
non-residential
rate,
library
and
parks
and
recreation
impact
fees,
similar
situation
here
on
library.
J
You
can
see
that
you're
at
the
top
of
the
survey,
the
proposed
fees,
would
bring
you
towards
the
middle
of
the
survey
and
then
the
parks
and
recreation
you're
already
kind
of
in
the
middle.
But
it
brings
you
a
couple
steps
down
and
then
finally,
the
general
government
impact
fees
currently
you're
towards
the
bottom
of
the
survey,
but
the
proposed
fee
at
the
lower
cost
recovery
percentage
will
bring
you
even
further
towards
the
bottom
and
then
the
non-residential
would
remain
the
same.
Also
towards
the
bottom
of
the
survey.
J
So,
in
conclusion,
our
updated
fees
reflect
the
standard
based
approach,
which
is
most
common
in
in
the
industry.
For
these
types
of
fees,
we've
incorporated
the
sales
tax
credit,
and
these
impact
fees
must
be
just
and
equitable.
That's
why
we're
adopting
the
same
cost
recovery
for
both
residential
and
non-residential?
J
The
current
renowned
residential
impact
fees
are
shown
below
and
the
recommended
residential
impact
fees
fall
within
the
survey
range
and
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
presentation
and
can
field
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank.
E
You
thank
you,
mr
napoli,
for
the
presentation.
First
I
want
to.
As
for
apologizing,
for
losing
the
wi-fi
connection,
but
mr
napoli
in
plain
wars,
would
you
please
explain
again
the
difference
between
the
plan
base
and
the
standard
based
approach.
J
Absolutely
and
it
is
sort
of
a
complicated
subject
to
approach,
but
essentially
the
plan
based
reflects
a
a
plan
going
into
the
future.
So
if
the
city
was
adding
a
certain
amount
of
residents
over
the
next
10
years,
and
you
had
a
plan
for
adding
fire
stations
for
each
increment
like
say
every
thousand
residents,
you
would
incorporate
that
cost
and
then
divide
it.
Amongst
the
residents
that
you
plan
to
add
to
the
city.
The
standards
based
looks
at
the
current
investment
in
the
city.
E
Thank
you,
mr
liquidus
is
mr
hernick
on
the
call
yes
caesar.
Okay,
mr
harry
the
recommendations
of
mr
napoli.
On
page
six
says,
the
young
pig
fees
for
residential
will
be
reduced.
One
thousand
twenty
six
dollars.
Thirty,
three
point:
five
percent:
what
effect
that
is
going
to
have
on
the
budget
that
we
work
in
with
2020
2020
or
are
we
about
to
approve.
E
E
Do
you
have
a
data
that
shows
the
surrounding
cities
having
police
and
fire
departments,
because
the
city
of
dunedin
that
you
compares
with
they
do
not
have
police
and
fire
their
services
comes
from
the
sheriff's
department?
Does
that
make
any
difference.
J
That
means
they
probably
pass
those
fees
down
from
the
county.
It
doesn't
make
a
huge
difference
and
not
every
city
in
the
surrounding
area
is
going
to
have
the
same
impact
fees,
not
a
lot
of
cities
avail
themselves
to
all
of
these
impact
fees.
So
we
tried
to
find
the
most
comparable
municipalities
in
population
size.
A
E
I
Thanks
mayor,
just
a
quick
one,
so
there
were
some
adjustments
made.
But
when
you
made
you
made
a
comment
that
staff
said
they
didn't
want
to
see
any
increases,
so
you
adjusted
the
general
fund
and
reduced
some
of
the
other
areas.
I
J
So,
with
the
with
the
impact
fees
that
have
recommended
reductions
on
the
residential
side,
but
increases
on
the
non-residential
side
in
order
to
achieve
a
decrease
or
avoid
an
increase
on
both
sides,
we
have
to
adopt
that
same
cost
recovery.
So
it
may
further
reduce
the
impact
fees
on
the
residential
side.
Okay,
the
reason
we
can't
adopt
the
residential
fee
at
100
and
then
adopt
the
non-residential
fee
at
50,
because
then
it's
no
longer
fair
and
equitable
understood.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
mr
napoli.
I
appreciate
your
presentation.
You're
you're,
definitely
throwing
new
your
stuff,
and
I
do
I
did
have
a
question.
Is
your?
What's
your
relation
to
dr
napoli?
Oh,
no
relations,
none!
No!
I
thought
you
were
experiencing.
I
was
gonna.
Tell
you
saved
me
a
couple
times,
but
back
back
to
business,
I
would
say
that
I'm
pleased
to
see
the
decrease
in
terms
of
the
impact
fees.
K
I
think
a
thousand
dollars
per
residential
household
regarding
the
police,
fire
library,
parks
and
rec,
and
the
general
government
is
definitely
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
In
my
opinion,
we've
heard
for
many
years
now
from
just
you
know,
your
your
ordinary
resident
who's
lived
here.
A
long
time
has
decided
to
build
a
family
home
that
our
impact
fees
are
outrageous
before
they
even
stick
a
shovel
in
the
ground.
So
I'm
definitely
pleased
to
see
the
decrease
just
just
for
benefit
of
the
public.
K
Could
you
give
an
example
of
some
of
the
things
that
would
be
covered
in
the
general
government
impact
fee.
J
So
the
general
government
impact
fee
represents
all
of
the
public
facilities,
but
mostly
the
not
all
of
the
public
facilities
on
this
spoke
there,
but
the
public
facilities
like
the
city
hall.
So
if
there
was
any
kind
of
incremental
expansion
of
city
hall,
because
you
needed
to
serve
new
growth
and
there
needed,
for
example,
there,
there
wasn't
enough
office
space
at
city
hall,
and
you
had
to
hire
more
people
in
order
to
expand
the
departments,
because
the
city
was
growing
rapidly.
K
And,
given
that
we
don't
have
any
known
future
large
ex
expansions,
right
as
it
relates
to
some
of
our
buildings
or,
like
you
mentioned
before,
in
a
different
circumstance,
being
fired
if
we're
going
to
build
a
new
fire
station.
But
given
that
we
don't
have
any
known
large
expansions.
Is
that
how
you
were
comfortable
using
a
cost
recovery
of
about
13.
J
Yeah
that
definitely
factored
into
it
and
yeah
you'll
be
pretty
limited
in
what
you
can
spend
those
impact
fees
on
going
into
the
future
and
yeah
over
time.
K
And,
for
example,
if
we
were
going
to
plan
a
big
expansion
in
the
future,
then
at
that
time
we
might
want
to
go
back
to
considering
a
planned
approach.
J
Well
that
that
could
be
true
if,
if
you
typically,
the
plan
based
approach,
serves
serves
communities
that
are
growing
more
rapidly
so
say
the
city
started
to
annex
a
big
area
from
the
county
and
services
needed
to
grow
really
real
really
quickly
in
order
to
serve
those
those
new
pockets
of
service
areas.
J
Plan
based
approach
may
work
better
for
you,
but
typically
the
standards
based
is
is
more
common,
commonly
accepted
for
all
these
types
of
fees
and
it's
easier
for
you
to
update
every
five
years.
J
That's
our
recommendation
is
to
re-look
at
these
impact
fees
every
five
years,
so
the
change
isn't
so
radical
and
you
incorporate
the
latest
data,
but
but
I
would
say
that
I
don't
see
many
scenarios
where
the
city
would
want
to
switch
back
to
that
plan.
Bracing
plan
based
approach.
K
Your
your
information
was
was
great
and
I
won't
argue,
with
a
thousand
dollar
reduction
in
our
impact
fees,
so
appreciate
the
presentation.
A
L
Yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you,
mr
napoli,
for
the
detailed
presentation
again
really
happy
with
the
results.
My
only
question
left
for
you
would
be.
I
guess.
How
often
do
you
recommend
that
we
do
one
of
these
studies
because
we
just
did
one
now
we
see
kind
of
the
big
difference
that
it
makes
and
it
was
last
updated.
You
know
12
years
ago,
so
I
guess,
what's
what's
the
kind
of
the
prudent
timeline
of
doing
these
studies.
J
Yeah,
we
recommend
every
three
to
five
years
in
order
to
avoid
big
shifts
and
fees,
as
you
saw
on
the
full
cost
recovery
percentage
fees,
there
was
some
pretty
big
shifts
for
all
of
the
fees
and
both
customer
classes,
so
we
recommend
every
three
to
five
years.
The
city
comes
back
and
looks
at
updates
the
the
fixed
assets
that
are
the
underlying
factor
in
these
fees
and
the
population
data
and
the
property
data.
L
M
You
mayor,
mr
napoli,
how
going
back
to
vice
mayor
carr's
comment:
the
no
increase
in
cost-
and
maybe
you
can't
answer
this,
but
who?
Whose
idea
was
that?
Was
that
the
commissions
or
was
that
the
staffs
or.
J
Well,
it
was,
it
was
the
general
direction
that
we
we
felt,
that
was
a.
It
was
a
good
recommendation
to
make
for
the
city
to
avoid
any
increases,
any
fees
and
rates
this
year,
in
particular
because
of
the
sensitivity
of
this
year.
However,
I
think
it
was.
It
was
a
the
general
opinion
of
management
and
in
finance
that
that
would
also
be
the
best
recommendation
to
put
forth
well.
H
I
would
say
the
pulse
of
the
commission
over
the
last
couple
years
about
these
and
doing
this
study.
I
think
that
was
the
pulse
of
the
commission
to
for
those
being,
hopefully
lower.
So
that's
that's
where
that
came
from.
I
I
agree
if
I
could
mr
vaticuz,
if
I
could
just
chime
in,
I
think
we
have
three
new
board
members
over
the
past
couple
years,
so
we
have
had
some
extensive
conversations,
just
throughout
board
board
of
commission
meetings
about
lowering
the
military
there's
nothing
official.
I
think
that
was
put
on
like
an
agenda
to
discuss
it,
but
it
was
been
discussed
multiple
times
over
the
past
three
years,
plus.
J
I'm
sorry
I
was
also
going
to
mention.
Did
you
start
to
study?
Oh,
we
I'm
sorry.
We
started
the
study
in
the
at
the
end
of
2018
and
it
it
continued
on
for
some
time
because
there
was
a
few
pauses,
but
it
was
also
worth
mentioning
that
we,
when
we
evaluated
the
city's
position
in
the
the
market
surveys-
and
we
saw
that
some
of
those
fees
you
guys
were
towards
the
top
of
the
survey.
M
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
whenever
we
can
we're
not
giving
money
back
to
the
residents,
but
whenever
we
can
decrease
the
impact
later,
it's
always
a
good
thing
from
my
perspective
and
I'm
really
interested
in
the
process.
I
think
the
results
are
good.
How
how
common
is
this
backing
into
the
impact
fee
approach
that
you
took?
You
said
no
increased
cost
and
then
you
kind
of
did
what
you
had
to
do
based
on
the
standards
approach
to
back
into
it.
Is
that,
typically,
what
you
do
or
what
you
see
at
other
cities.
J
Yeah
I've
worked
with
a
lot
of
these
impact
fee
studies
across
the
state
and
that
I
think,
nine
times,
eight
eight
to
nine
times
out
of
ten.
It's
this
methodology,
the
standard
methodology,
the
data
is
more
available
and
it's
easier
to
access
and
it's
just
administratively
easier.
I
think
every
every
time
you
want
to
update
the
fees
as
well.
M
J
We
impact
fees
are
commonly
adopted
at
lower
cost
recovery
percentages
because
of
some
kind
of
direction
or
feeling
that
either
the
city
would
want
to.
I've
had
cities
that
want
to
encourage
growth,
or
they
even
put
a
moratorium
on
impact
fees,
sometimes
or
adopt
them
at
real
low
cost
recovery
percentages.
M
How
would
this
now,
just
to
use
an
example,
we've
got
a
our
library,
it's
22
years
old,
there
hasn't
been
any
appreciable
expansion
at
all.
I
would
say
that
our
population
is
about
five
percent
more
or
maybe
about
20
greater
than
what
it
was
when
it
was
first
built.
M
J
So
how
we,
how
we
factor
in
the
fixed
asset
data
we
calculate
the
replacement
cost
new,
so
we
take
the
library's
original
cost
and
then
we
increase
it
to
account
for
the
inflation
since
the
the
time
it
was
constructed.
J
So
in
order
to
represent
the
the
investment
that
it
would
take
to
replace
that
library
today.
J
Yes,
yeah:
the
current
study
doesn't
reflect
any
future
plan
of
capital
improvements.
It
just
reflects
that
current
replacement,
cost
of
all
the
facilities
within
that
department
or
service.
M
Well,
that's
that's,
probably
something
that
the
commission
could
needs
to
talk
about
at
some
point
in
the
future,
not
not
obviously
tonight
the
and
then
the
cost
recovery
percentage.
I
understand
how
you
got
there
in
our
ordinance
we're
recommending
an
automatic
increase
which
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
little
later
when
we
get
to
that
ordinance
of
the
because
construction
cost
index
of
the
enrcc
was
that
stantics
idea
or
is
that
something
that's
come
from
the
staff.
J
It
was
most
likely.
Our
recommendation
because
we
did
well
burton
associates,
are
the
previous
firm.
Before
we
changed.
Company
was
involved
with
the
2008
study
and
in
all
of
our
impact
fee
studies,
we
recommend
that
cities
increase
their
impact
fees
to
match
the
cost
of
inflation
each
year.
So
the
enrcci
is
just
the
index
that
we
used
to
account
for
the
increase
in
inflation,
so
it
was
most
likely
part
of
our
recommendations
in
2008,
okay,
yeah.
M
M
I
I
think
that's
all
I
had
I
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
it's
always
good
to
learn
a
few
new
things.
So
thanks
absolutely
thank
you
for
having
me.
E
H
E
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
natalie
will
move
on
to
consent,
agenda.
E
E
A
I
E
I
E
M
The
question
I
had
on
the
diesel
generators
we're
getting
these
from
california
and
I'm
always
a
little
concerned
about
ordering
equipment
with
such
long
distance
because
there's
something
wrong.
That's
who
we
have
to
deal
with,
and
I
also
would
maybe
I
don't
see
it
in
the
back
up
as
far
as
the
installation
and
the
maintenance
of
these
diesel
generators.
Is
there
any
information
on
that.
N
Yeah,
I'm
here
to
to
help
cover
this
one:
okay,
my
assumption
bob
robertson
project
administration,
department,
director,
I'm
covering
this
item
for
the
public
services
department
tonight.
My
assumption
on
this
is
the
price
does
include
the
installation.
I
know
your
backup
doesn't
say
it,
but
it's
speaking
with
the
the
utilities
superintendent
today.
I
believe
that
is
the
case.
N
N
C
D
M
Be
I'm
not
sure
how
the
brussel
commission
feels,
but
I
really
get
uncomfortable
ordering
three
large
generators
like
this
from
california,
without
with
there
being,
in
my
opinion,
a
few
loose
ends
of
how
these
are
going
to
be
installed
and
maintained
in
the
future.
M
Maybe
the
staff's
comfortable
with
that
and
if
we
get
the
city
manager's
assurance
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
problem
with
that,
I
don't
have
an
issue
but
they're
going
into
a
particularly
critical
use
for
us
regard
to
the
potable
water
system,
and
I
I
you
know
when
you
order
something
like
this:
you've
got
oil
leaks
or
something
else,
there's
always
a
dilemma
in
trying
to
deal
with
somebody
out
of
state,
for
example,
and
I've
had
personal
experiences
of
that.
M
So
you
know
whether
they
send
somebody
down
to
repair
them
and
then
it's
not
a
brand
new
generator
as
you
as
you
had
purchased.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
the
rest
of
the
commission
feels
about
this,
and
maybe
city
manager,
of
course,
can
discuss
that
a
little
bit.
If
the
rest
of
commission
doesn't
have
an
issue
with
it,
then
obviously
I'm
gonna
go
along
with
the
purchase,
but
I
just
don't
like
the
the
little
information
that
we're
provided
on
something
the
cost
is
not
it's.
M
It's
it's
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
a
critical
component
and
a
very
critical
system
that
we've
got
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
the
the
right
equipment
and
that's
going
to
be
reliable
and
that
there
aren't
any
going
to
be
any
other
problems.
Spare
parts
or
whatever
the
anmar
engines
are
very
common.
I
didn't
I
haven't
heard
of
the
generator
head
manufacturer
before,
but
but
you
know
I'd
just
like
to
hear.
If
there's
any
other
comments
from
the
commissioners.
E
H
Well,
I
believe
so
again
I
think
you're
covering
because
mr
smith
is
back
a
couple
days
later
than
we
expected
him
back.
So
I
I
don't
have
mr
smith
here.
I'd
have
kind
of
prepared
to
get
that
information.
If
I
had
it
a
little
earlier,
so
I
mean
I'm
confident
if
mr
smith
proposed
it
and
did
his
research
on
it,
I'm
you
know
I'm
confident,
mr
smith,
and
what
he
has
to
say,
but
obviously
he's
not
here
tonight
for
his
item
for
this
item.
K
Commission,
tara
penny,
I
mean
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
it's
a
valid
observation
point
on,
commissioner,
is
on
on
his
end.
You
know
I
mean
I
would
definitely
prefer
to
go
with
a
company
that
is
either
in
riverview
or
oldsmar
as
far
as
being
more
local,
but
I
mean
given
that
they're.
You
know
diesel
generators
that
at
this
point
you
know
in
our
world
are
pretty
common.
I
think
that,
if
need
be,
we
can
probably
service
them
all
right.
L
M
Yeah
mayor
the
only
I
mean
getting
back
to
the
commissioner
terror.
Panties
observation
I
mean:
we've
got
companies
here
like
from
riverview
oldsmar,
bartow,
jacksonville,
tampa
edgewater
and
yeah.
M
We'll
focus
on
california
and
the
one
in
the
riverview
is,
is
about
three
thousand
dollars
more
than
what
we're
paying,
which
is
about
five
percent,
and
I
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
little
closer
look
at
people
closer
to
tarpon
springs
in
this
regard
in
the
future
and
kind
of
looking
at
them
as
far
as
service
and
reliability,
as
well
other
than
just
relying
on
a
warranty
that
somebody
else
might
show
up
and
they're,
not
they
don't
have
they're,
not
invested
in
that
that
somebody
else
sold
them
to
us,
so
their
job
is
just
to
fix
them.
E
You,
the
chair,
will
detain,
emotion
and
knight
number
three.
I
Do
we
need
comments
on
this
one?
There
oh
go
ahead.
No,
I
mean
do
we
need
public
comment
on
this
one.
I
don't
think.
C
A
E
H
Yes,
we
have
ms
niffen
on
here
to
give
the
report
on
the
suggested
timeline
which
may
change
and
she'll
tell
you,
because
the
application,
or
lack
thereof
so
jane.
If
you
give
the
presentation
of
a
tentative
timeline
that
might
have
to
be
moved.
O
Yes,
I
believe
the
original
scheduled
closing
date
for
this.
This
advertisement
was
actually
by
30
days
and
we
would,
in
september
14th
in
the
backup
it
mentions
that,
as
of
last
thursday,
there
were
no
applications.
I
can
confirm
that
as
of
4
o'clock
today,
there
were
still
no
applications.
O
We
are
having
to
accommodate
testing
and
so
on
and
interviews
via
virtual
means.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
little
longer
to
get
them
set
up
to
make
sure
everybody
is
is
available
at
the
right
time
and
we
have
to
actually
redo
our
testing
process
to
permit
an
oral
type
of
test.
So
what
I've?
What
I've,
given?
You
is
a
temp,
very
tentative
schedule.
It's
very
fluid
because
obviously
it'll
depend
on
the
number
of
applications.
It'll
depend
on
where
these
people
are
coming
from.
O
What
absolutely
talking
about
your
giving
you
time
to
look
at
your
your
short
listing,
which
may
vary
considerably
the
times
and
the
dates
I
have
given?
You
are
basically
what
I
would
consider
to
be
extremely
generous
in
the
sense
that
these
are
the
probably
the
furthest
dates
out
given
this
the
first
closing
date
of
september
30th.
However,
that
obviously
will
change
depending
on
what
we
receive.
O
We
have
been
advertising
on
our
website.
We've
been
advertising
on
four
league
of
cities,
the
fgf
away,
and
also
the
florida
internal
auditors
association.
O
As
of
now
we're
hoping
that
we
will
get
some
applications
through
this
process,
but
we
may
have
to
revisit
depending
on
what
we
receive.
So
as
you
can
read
through
the
the
the
tenant
of
schedule,
we
have
listed
giving
you
a
week
and
a
half
a
bit
longer
to
actually
do
your
final
selection.
O
Any
of
these
processes
can
be
shortened
depending
on
the
number
of
candidates
we
receive.
The
only
the
only
portion
that
may
take
has
to
do
with
the
background
check,
depending
on
where
these
people
come
from
and
what
kind
of
background
they
have
and
finally,
the
pre-employment
physical
and
drug
screen.
Those
are
pretty
much
two
things
that
are
somewhat
out
of
our
control.
O
E
Mr
sniffin,
since
we
don't
have
any
applications,
yet
I
guess
the
time
frames
on
the
schedule
is
meaningless.
But
the
question
that
I
have
is
any
way
that
we
can
advertise
for
this
position
out
of
state.
O
E
Well,
I
was
wondering
if
we
have
a
way
that
we
can
actually
advertise
out
of
state.
You
know
for
the
in
the
united
states,
not
global.
O
Yes,
I
will,
I
will
attempt
to
find
I'm
sure
there
are
national.
In
fact,
I
can
when
we,
when
we
place
an
ad,
even
if
we
were
to
use
the
international,
we
could
specify
that
you
know
preference
will
be
given
to
u.s
residents.
O
H
Just
remember
a
lot
of
times
on
ours:
we
have
to
extend
our
applications
for
another
30
days,
so
I
wouldn't
go
into
any
of
those
things
of
recruiting
or
that
the
first
thing
I
would
do
if
we
got
a
couple
or
didn't
get
enough,
would
be
to
extend
the
advertisement
for
30
days
and
then
evaluate
from
there
to
go
another
method
to
go.
That's
what
we've
had
to
do
on
some
of
the
other
jobs.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
I
Mayor
so
I've
I've
experienced
recruiting
companies
pretty
often
in
my
line
of
work,
and
they
run
anywhere
between
20
and
30
of
the
salary.
That's
being
placed
true.
A
I
And
since
we
don't
use
a
whole
lot,
it
20
would
be,
I
think,
difficult
to
get
it's
probably
more
like
25
to
30.
If
I
had
to
guess,
because
we
don't
use
a
multiple
recruiting,
we
don't
recruit
a
lot
for
positions.
So
just
from
what
my
experience
is
on
the
procurement
side
with
recruiting
services.
E
I
If
I'm
a
mayor
sure
I
do
support
extending
it
for
another
30
days,
miss
niffen.
Does
the
city
look
at
like
indeed
or
monster
to
post
these
positions
at
all,
I
know
we've
had
I've
had
success
in
the
in
my
professional
world
with
indeed
more
than
anybody
else.
O
We
have
used-
indeed,
in
fact
we
use
quite
commonly
for
middle
management
and
frontline
positions.
We
have
found
that
in
the
past,
the
targeting
for
professionals,
if
you
put
it
in
their
journals
and
their
publications,
and
that
we
tend
to
get
better
results,
but
we
have
we
have
used.
Indeed,
we
have
used
career
builder
monster.
The
problem
with
that
is
you'll
receive,
probably
hundreds
of
applications
of
which
maybe
10
might
be,
might
be
suitable.
I
I
So
I
mean
from
from
my
experience,
I
think
just
involving
indeed
might
be
a
good,
a
good
way
to
get
a
career
builder
to
get
some
applicants
at
least
get
I
mean
it
gets
people
talking
and
what
I've
experienced
is
like
if
someone's
looking
for
a
job
they'll
know
another
friend,
that's
looking
for
a
job,
they
saw
it
posted
on
indeed,
and
to
let
them
know
about
it.
So
I
think
that
will
help
expand
our
application
base
as
well.
A
E
You
so
you
recommend
you
to
extend
it
for
30
days.
K
I'll
support
the
extension
as
well.
I
remember
I
don't
remember
exactly
what
we
set
the
salary
range
at.
What
was
the.
O
L
You
mayor,
I
strongly
agree
with
vice
mayor's
comments
about
putting
it
on
indeed
stuff,
like
indeed
linkedin.
I
know
we
probably
get
a
lot
more
dud
applications
for
sure,
but
I
think
you
know
that's
definitely
the
place
to
start
in
terms
of
getting
something.
L
My
main
question
on
this
is
is
how
many
applicants
would
we
need
before
this
process
starts?
Because,
obviously,
if
we
have
like
three,
you
know
decent
applicants.
Are
we
going
to
wait
to
start
the
process
because
we
don't
want
to
force
anybody
into
this
role?
That
might
not
be
you
know
truly
prepared
for
it
I
mean
how
many
qualified
applicants
until
we
begin
the
process.
I
guess
is
my
question.
O
That
is
something
the
commission
could
decide,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
in
the
past
we
have
posted
jobs
without
a
closing
date.
We
put
open
until
filled,
which
means,
if
you
find
yourself
with
a
compliment
of
good
people,
you
don't
have
to
wait
for
for
a
closing
date,
whereas,
technically
speaking,
if
you
post
a
closing
date,
it
could
get
a
little
dicey
if
you
don't
wait
for
that
date
to
pass,
and
somebody
submits
an
application
prior
to
that
date
and
you've
already
started
the
the
process.
O
You
would
probably
have
to
include
that
person
go
back
and
include
them
in
the
if
mind
you
if
they
were
qualified,
but
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and
we've
been
pretty
successful
with
it
is
to
post
it
open
until
filled,
and
that
gives
you
more
flexibility.
L
Okay,
I
guess
this
is
kind
of
a
premature
conversation,
we'll
see
what
happens
after
the
extension,
but
I
definitely
don't
want
to
force
anybody
into
this
role.
I
don't
want
to
settle
so.
Hopefully
we
get
some
good
applicants,
then,
okay,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
on
that.
Thank.
A
M
Yeah,
I
support
the
30-day
extension
this
niffen
we
doing
something
to
advertise
in
the
nearby
cities,
city
governments
in
particular,.
O
We
can
ask
to
post
them
on
their
websites,
but
we
don't
usually
get
a
lot
of
response
on
that
we
can
and
we
have
not
posted
it
in
the
tampa
bay
times.
I
go
back
to
our
last
two
by
three
ad
was
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
and
right
now,
they're
only
publishing
twice
a
week.
O
M
No,
I'm
not
I'm
not
interested
in
the
newspapers.
I'm
I'm
more
interested
in
a
friend
of
a
friend
that
works
for
city
of
st
petersburg
or
city
of
tampa
city
of
color
has
a
friend
wish
they
could
be
an
auditor
or
something
like
that
professional
and
it's
just
a
way
of
getting
the
word
out.
You
know
that
the
city's
other
city.
M
Getting
the
out
in
much
larger
cities
than
we
are,
and,
quite
frankly,
I'd
rather
have
somebody
in
a
nearby
city
coming
to
work
for
us.
As
I
said
before,
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
that
person
to
be
able
to
have
friends
in
other
nearby
cities
that
they
could
ask
questions
of
in
their
profession,
rather
than
being
kind
of
the
lone
voice
on
a
city
staff
where
they're
operating
independently.
M
So
I
I
would
like
to
do
that.
I
right
now
I'm
not
interested
in
in
doing
career
builder
or
anything
like
that.
I'd
like
to
wait
the
30
days
before
we
do
that
the
I
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
get
with
these
other
companies,
but
I
don't
want
to
waste
their
time.
You
know
the
applicant's
time
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
waste
the
commission's
time
on
this.
O
As
far
as
I
know-
and
the
answer
would
be
no,
we
could,
I
could
possibly
send
the
link,
we
do
have
it
posted
on
our
website
and
it
has
a
more
detailed
than
say
an
ad
on
on
the
professional
publication,
but
I
could
we
could
send
it
to
other
cities
and
ask
them
to
maybe
post
it
so
that
it
would
get
the
word
would
get
around.
I
don't.
O
I
don't
want
to
poach
some
of
their
employees,
but
on
the
other
hand,
if
you're
looking
to
to
look
at
people
by
word
of
mouth,
that
might
be
a
way
to
do
it.
M
Yeah,
well
I
mean
you
know
it
it.
I
don't
consider
it
poaching
other
employees.
I
mean
I've
had
employees
where
there
was
no
room
for
them
to
grow
at
the
city
of
tarpon,
before
I've
encouraged
them
to
go
elsewhere
and
they've
always
been
friends
of
tarpon
springs
after
that
as
well.
I
think
likewise,
the
city
of
saint
pete,
for
example,
has
got
some
really
sharp
guy,
that
everybody's
filled
those
positions
above
him
and
they're
not
going
and
they're
equally
good.
I
like
so
ability
as
well,
so
I
I
we're
all
in
it
together.
M
I
guess
from
in
the
tampa
bay
area
and
I'd
like
to
work
together
in
that
regard,
I
I
know
we
were
going
to
talk
at
one
time
and
remind
me
a
little
better
on
this.
We
we
talked
about
the
salary,
but
we
kind
of
left
the
selection
process
until
a
later
date,
and
I
I
thought
that
was
going
to
be
something
like
tonight.
I
see
where
the
the
dates
that
you
have
you
provided.
M
If
we,
if
we
you
know
the
date
of
closing,
would
be
september
30th
and
then
to
submit
the
applications
to
the
city
commission.
For
review
october,
2nd,
I'm
not
sure
how
all
this
is
going
to
play
out
with
a
monster
or
career
builder,
if
there's
at
least
three
commissioners
that
want
to
go
in
that
direction.
M
But
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
myself
in
a
position
of
looking
at
15
or
20
applications,
and
maybe
ms
niffen
you're
more
comfortable
in
that.
But
I
thought
at
one
time
I
and
I
remember
mayor-
you
said
that
maybe
I'm
wrong,
if
I
don't
remember
correctly,
but
the
budget
advisory
committee
could
potentially
help
us
scan
the
applications
and
and
come
up
with
three
or
four
finalists.
Given
that
we've
got
that
number
of
applications
that
submit,
I
would
say
the
way
we're
going
right
now
doing
it
very
professionally
and
very
selectively.
M
We're
not
going
to
get
that
large
number.
But
if
we
open
it
up
to
some
other
large
online
search
firm
or
go
internationally,
where
we're
limiting
it
to
the
united
states,
we
could
potentially
get
10
20
applications
and
I'm
not
interested
in
making
120
applications
myself.
I
think
that
would
be
better
for
or
somebody
with
a
little
more
experience
like
the
budget
advisory
committee
to
do
in
the
finance
and.
E
That
was
a
recommendation,
but
because
we
don't
know
how
many
applications
were
we're
going
to
have,
we
didn't
pursue
it.
E
M
C
Commissioner
vatica
otis's
question
about
the
local
area.
We,
I
did
send
the
application
out
the
advertisement
to
our
local
chapter,
which
does
go
to
all
cities
around
the
the
pinellas
county,
hillsborough
pasco
county
area,
so
that
was
sent
out
to
the
local
membership
in
our
in
our
gulf
coast
area.
If
that
helps
any.
M
Yeah,
mr
herring,
is
there
any
feedback
from
them
at
all
that
you
might
get
in
your
local
chapter
that
maybe
they
think
the
salary
range
is
right
on
or
too
low
or.
M
Okay,
I
the
one
thing
mayor
you
brought
up,
I'm
not
sure
what
you
referred
to,
but
a
search
firm
is
what
I
would
use
as
a
term,
and
I
you
know
we
we
buy
more
than
just
a
search
firm,
finding
somebody
potential
candidates.
They
also
can
advise
of
the
people
that
they
know
that
maybe
potential
candidates
what
they
think
the
salary
range
and
other
things
like
that.
M
So
I'm
okay
with
extending
it
september
30th.
But
at
some
point
I
think
we're
going
to
need
a
little
help
in
this.
Something
is
a
little
more
you
know
focused
and
finding
some
qualified
candidates
that
can
give
us
some
feedbacks
of
salary
ranges.
Remember
we
set
the
salary
range
ourselves
based
on
some
information
that
ms
niffen
had
provided
from
other
cities.
You
also
asked
the
question
what
other
internal
auditors
were
doing
in
some
cities,
a
similar
size
to
tarpon
springs
that
didn't
pan
out,
because
there
really
weren't.
D
M
But
somehow
we've
got
to
get
some
direct
feedback
from
people
that
might
want
to
apply,
but
for
whatever
reason,
they're
not
applying-
and
I
can't
tell
you
whether
it's
going
to
be
salary,
location
or
something
else,
but
but
I
I'm
I
don't
want
to
continue
kicking
the
can
down
the
street
in
hopes
that
somebody
shows
up.
That
might
want
to
be
an
internal
auditor
for
tarpon
springs,
and
if
we
need
help,
I
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
spending
the
money
to
to
get
that
help.
E
E
It's
probably
going
to
be
a
good
investment.
If
we
think
it's
we're
going
to
find
somebody,
that's
very
well
qualified
and
is
going
to
do
a
good
job.
M
Right
not
not
whether,
notwithstanding
whether
we
adopt
anything
I'm
saying
tonight,
I
want
to
put
it
on
the
table
in
hopes
or
not
in
hopes,
but
in
case
this
comes
up
again
in
30
days
that
we
need
to
this,
isn't
something
a
new
discussion
we're
having.
We
talked
about
it
30
days
previously
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
E
Mayor
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
We
now
go
into
the
public
comments.
Mr
jacob,
have
we
received
any
emails,
no
email,
mr
jump.
Do
we
have
anyone
that
is
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
I
will
it
contain
emotion
to
extend
it
for
30
days
and
then
the
schedule
that
it
was
provided
to
us
will
be
adjust
accordingly.
I.
F
M
Right,
I
didn't
hear
that
commissioner
carr,
I
mean
vice
mayor
carr,
but
if
you
want
to
pull
the
commission,
that
might
be
helpful
because
I
I
wouldn't
adjust
my
motion
unless
that
there's
at
least
three
commissioners
that
want
to
do
that
yeah.
I
would
like
to.
K
M
I
A
need
to
do
that
at
this
point.
Okay,
from
a
knee
from
I
mean
just
from
a
hiring
standpoint,
if
you
post
on
your
website,
you're
not
going
to
get
any
applicants
typically
what
I've
seen.
So
I
just
want
to
put
it
out
there
that
indeed
in
linkedin,
you're
you're
targeting
ultimately
people
that
are
looking
for
these
positions,
but.
K
I
K
I
K
And
that's
I
mean
I
know
what
linkedin
is,
but
the
other
one's
just
the
cap,
just
a
normal
host
site
of
recruit
consent,
yeah,
I'm,
okay,
with
that.
I
just
don't
want
to
spend
in
excess
of
a
thousand
dollars.
I
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
to
extend
the
the
recruiting
process
for
another
30
days
and
also
direct
staff
or
in
the
city
manage
direct
the
city
manager
to
post
the
application
on.
Indeed
and
linkedin.
E
Second,
and
and
also
to
to
adjust
the
the
schedule
that
was
provided
to
us,
based
on
the
30
days.
A
E
E
E
Okay,
we're
now
going
to
item
number
five
property
and
casualty
workers,
com
insurance
staff.
O
Yes,
honorable
mayor
and
board
of
commissioners,
I'd
like
to
recommend
that
the
approve
the
renewal
of
our
city's
property
and
casualty
and
workers
compensation
insurances
with
the
florida
municipal
insurance
trust
who
does
business
as
the
florida
league
of
cities
for
a
one
year
period,
starting
october
first
of
may
of
2020..
We
have
received
the
renewal
this
year.
What
happens
in
in
property
tends
to
be
a
little
a
little
more
stable
than
than
the
work
comp
this
past
year.
O
I
think
I
said
in
in
the
background
that
most
places
most
entities
use
a
three-year
smoothing
period
and
that's
to
prevent
great
great
sex
each
year
in
in
your
work
comp.
O
It
obviously
indicates
that
we
have
dropped
a
good
year
and
picked
up
a
bad
year,
and
I
can
tell
you
last
year
was
a
bad
year
for
work
comp,
primarily
because
we
had
a
couple
of
of
large
claims,
one
being
an
employee
who
almost
had
his
arm,
ripped
off
being
dragged
around
by
being
dragged
under
a
a
log,
as
was
he
ended
up
having
to
be
taken
to
one
else
and
bay
flighted
to
tampa
general
trauma
center.
O
That
claim
is
in
excess
of
six
figures,
and
we
do
have
other
settlements
out
there
for
a
presumption
statute
for
another
employee,
another,
a
third
employee
who
actually
stepped
backwards
off
a
trailer
and
ended
up
fracking,
and
it
has
not
healed
so
work.
Comp
this
year
has
not
been
good
to
us,
so
we've
seen
actually
a
15
increase
work,
comp,
one
percent
increase
in
the
property
and
casualty
which
isn't
a
bad
thing,
considering
what's
happened
in
the
last
three
years
in
florida.
O
With
regard
to
catastrophic
events,
the
other
thing
that
I
need
to
mention
is
that
since
2007,
the
city
has
been
receiving
what
the
league
has
named
the
retired
property
premium
and
what
happens?
Is
they
go
back
three
years
and
if
they
have
any
excess,
they
they
refund
it
to
their
members
based
on
a
per
capita
basis.
O
So
this
this
year
there
was
no
return
in
premium.
Since
2007,
we've
received
almost
500
000
dollars
in
return
of
premium
this
year,
probably
because
of
people
or
names
like
irma,
michael
et
cetera.
O
There
is
no
return
in
property
premium,
so
that
also
affects
our
bottom
line.
So,
overall,
there
is
a
six
percent
increase,
but,
as
mr
herring
pointed
out,
it
still
is
a
net
budgeted
savings
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
little
over
thirty
thousand
dollars.
As
to
what
was
budgeted,
I
will
entertain
any
questions.
E
O
Okay,
it's
very
similar
to
what
happens
with
with
the
health
care
what
they
do
is
and
of
course
they
blend
it
over
a
period
of
three
years,
so
that
average
tends
to
bring
it
down
if
you've
had
a
bad
year
and
a
good
heaven
forbid,
you
have
three
bad
years,
but
what
they
do
is
they
look
at
for
every
dollar
they
spend
last
years
every
dollar
they
spent
they,
I
should
say
for
every
dollar
they
took
in,
they
spent
88
cents
this
year,
this
past
year
for
every
dollar
that
they
took
in.
O
They
spent
a
dollar
six,
as
you
can
understand
that
that's
not
a
not
a
good
way
to
be
progressing.
O
As
I
say
it's
a
little
more
flexible
or
should
I
I
hate
to
use
the
word
volatile,
but
it
is
a
little
more.
How
do
I
protect
it
moves
a
lot
because
of
the
years
we
can
have
good
years.
We
also
have
settlements
for
past
workers,
comp
claims.
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
factor
into
it,
but
as
far
as
the
experience
mod
itself,
it
has
to
do
with
the
amount
paid
out
versus
the
amount
taken.
In
does
that
make
any
sense.
E
Yes,
in
other
words
this
year,
we
actually
they
spend
more
than
they
received
yeah.
We
were
able
to
compare
the
rates
with
another
provider.
O
I
would
say
that
with
work
comp,
you
probably
you'll
probably
be
in
the
same
the
same
position
with
every
other,
because
it
does
depend
on
on
your
your
claims.
There's
not
a
lot
of
wiggle
room
in
that.
So
much
as
there
is
in
property,
I
would
say
wiggle
room,
but
property
is
more
stable.
O
The
work
comp
can
be
can
be
a
somewhat
a
bumpy
ride,
depending
on
on
your
your
years
of
claims.
O
So
if
we,
if
you
went
to
another
another
company,
you'd,
probably
have
a
very
similar
rating.
I
Yeah
I've
got
a
couple
questions
to
follow
up
on
your
question
mayor
ms
nippen.
When
was
the
last
time
this
went
out
to
rfp.
I
Okay,
so
I'm
in
full
support
of
an
rfp
from
an
insurance
standpoint.
I
would
like
to
direct
the
city
manager
that
I'm
not
sure
what
the
rest
of
the
board
feels,
but
I
would
encourage
that
just
to
see
what's
out
there,
I'm
not
saying
you're
doing
a
bad
job
in
managing
this.
That's
not
like.
That's
not
what
I'm
trying
to
say
at
all.
I
just
think
it's
it's
good
to
see
what
else
is
out
there
and
then.
I
I
O
That
comes
under
general
liability.
All
right,
okay,
our
gl
is,
is
not
in
bad
shape,
but
it
it
is
our
work
comp
and
that
has
to
do
with
employees.
Accidents
claims
settlements
that
kinds
of
those
kinds
of
things
that
that
do
add
up.
I
O
O
I
I
O
Property,
the
it
I'm
told
that
it
does
not
commercial
does
not
fluctuate
in
value
the
way
residential
can
is
it's
somewhat
more
stable?
I
do
know
that
when
it
comes
to
the
property
values
for
the
last
couple
of
years,
they
have
not
increased
with
the
league.
I
L
Mayor,
I
would
just
say
ms
sniff
and
you're
doing
a
great
job.
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
with
this
report.
I
mean
whenever
you
look
at
any
insurance
you're
expecting
to
see
it
go
up,
but
I
I
was
actually
pleasantly
surprised
even
with
our
work
comp
mod.
You
know
another
simple
way
of
explaining
that
is
that,
like
a
1.0
is
average
so
say
last
year
we
were,
you
know
12
below
average,
which
is
a
good
thing
this
year.
L
We're
still
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
big
increase,
but
we're
still
only
six
percent
above
average,
which
is
really
manageable.
So
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
with
that
same
thing:
property
rates
being
increased
by
one
percent.
You
know
I
I'm
fine
with
that
as
well.
I'm
always
willing
to
look
into
it.
You
know
it
can't
really
hurt
to.
I
guess
you
know,
quote
unquote
shop
it
out,
but
again,
really
pleasantly
surprised
with
this
report,
and
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do.
Thank
you.
M
O
M
Is
I
I
know,
we've
talked
about
the
street
cleaning
schedule.
We've
talked
about
preventive
building,
preventive
maintenance.
M
Is
this
something
that
can
be
and
don't
get
me
wrong?
I
guess
I
should
say
I
would
like
to
get
a
briefing
on
it
sometime
without
bringing
the
rest
of
the
commission
in
unless
the
rest
of
the
commission
would
like
a
a
briefing
or
a
presentation
on
it.
I'd
like
to
understand
that
a
little
more
I
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
the
rate
wasn't
higher
this
year
as
well.
So
I'm
okay
with
that,
but
I,
as
I'm
always
liking
to
learn
new
things.
M
So
I
don't
know
anything
about
that,
and
this
gave
the
opportunity
to
ask
that
question
so
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
rest
of
the
commissioners
and
if
I
don't
hear
anything
I'll
follow
up
with
the
city
manager
to
see
if
I
can
get
a
briefing
on
it
at
some
point
in
the
future,
it
is
hard
to
advise
mayor
carr's
question
on
the
rp
is:
is
there
I?
M
I
know
sometimes
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
with
having
somebody
that
you've
done
business
with
and
there
may
be
something
in
the
in
the
contract,
but
I
know
there
is
in
terms
of,
for
example,
property
insurance.
If
you,
if
you
you
know,
you
continue
on
with
one
carrier
and
then
you
you
don't
continue
with
that
carrier
no
longer,
and
you
find
that
maybe
you
should
come
back
to
them
now,
all
of
a
sudden
you're
off
on
a
different
rate
scale
than
if
you
had
been
a
continuing
customer
all
along.
M
Is
there
any
reason
of
why
we
should
not
do
an
rfp?
Is
there
if
we,
if
we
explore
the
idea
of
pursuing
somebody
else,
is
there
any
penalty
to
that
in
the
future?
On
this,
and
and
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
is
how
many
other
carriers
would
we
would
be
out
there,
somebody
similar
to
what
we
have
right
now.
O
There
are
a
few
they
all
have
their
pros
and
cons.
O
I
know
of
one
in
particular
that
once
you
get
once
you
once
you
sign
up
with
them,
you
have
to
give
them
about
10
months,
advanced
notice
that
you're
going
to
leave
them,
so
they
get
you
locked
in,
but
that's
no
reason
not
to
have
a
look.
If,
if
that
were
the
wish
of
the
commission,.
M
Well,
I
I
mean,
based
on
what
commissioner
donovan
said.
I
I
think
we're
fortunate
in
that
regard,
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
continuing
on
with
what
we've
got
in
place
right
now.
If
the
commission
would
like
to
do
an
rp,
maybe
the
next
year
would
be
something
city
manager,
of
course,
that
we
can
explore
unless
the
commission
wants
to.
I
guess
the
idea
is
maybe
not
approve
this
tonight
and
go
out
to
an
rp,
I'm
not
sure.
E
M
E
We're
going
to
go
to
public
comments,
ms
jacobs,
in
the
emails.
I
I
just
have
a
quick
comment.
I
intend
to
approve
this
tonight.
I
was
talking
about
for
future
years.
I
think
we
should
look
at
an
rfp
just
to
see
what's
out
there
and
available.
H
H
Obviously,
things
are
still
continuing
the
businesses,
some
of
them
a
lot
of
them,
are
still
struggling
so
with
the
lack
of
complaints,
as
you
can
say,
and
the
the
ability
to
help
a
lot
of
businesses
I'd
recommend
this
be
extended
at
least
for
another
month,
we've
been
standing
at
month
by
month,
so
at
least
to
extend
it
for
another
month.
E
Restaurant
owners
about
that
they
are
very
very
pleased
that
we
we
have
that,
because
the
the
indoor
capacity
still
remains
50
and
many
many
customers
don't
like
to
go
indoors
to
eat
they
want
to.
They
want
to
sit
outside,
they
feel
more
comfortable
with
sitting
outside,
so
they
like
the
idea
to
go
ahead
and
expand
the
outdoor
seating
capacity,
at
least
for
another
another
month.
E
So
I
am
supporting
that
commission
car.
M
H
No,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
get
something
in
early
september.
I
was
thinking
more
of
the
first
now
that's
after
the
holiday,
maybe
we'll
start
to
hear,
but
I
thought
we'd
start
hearing
some
more.
You
know
at
the
latest
this
week
or
next
week,
so
we're
still
waiting.
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'll
be
attending
the
ideal
audio
conferences
on
the
on
this
issues
on
coronavirus.
They
haven't
decided,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
because
the
numbers
are
still
climbing.
E
Public
comments,
miss
jacobs,.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
well,
next
is
item
number
seven
penn
street
and
gross
avenue
drainage
and
worldwide
improvements.
A
is
the
ultra
construction
company
stipulation
and
settlement
agreement
and
b
is
the
racine
the
award
of
bid
number
two:
zero
zero
one:
zero,
zero
b,
j,
j,
penn
street
and
gross
avenue
drainage
and
road
improvements.
E
What
I
like
to
do
is
to
since
the
7a
and
7b
are
related,
will
be
discussed
together,
but
we're
going
to
vote
separately
and
we're
going
to
go
to
the
staff
report.
H
H
I
get
bob
I
want
to
thank
bob
robertson
and
our
city
attorney
for
work
on
this.
This
is
another
one
of
those
cases
on
pension
for
the
penn
street
project,
a
major
project
that
we're
trying
to
begin
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
grant
money,
that's
on
the
line
and
we're
able
to
get
an
extension
on
that
grant
money
because
of
this
difficulty.
H
So
I
want
I
want
to
thank
the
hard
work
and
I'll.
Let
bob
robertson
go
into
some
of
the
details
of
what
we've
tried
to
negotiate.
Obviously,
a
company
that
did
the
bid
for
whatever
reason
asked
to
withdraw.
H
Obviously,
we
took
the
step
of
of
either
getting
their
bond
and
working
on
that
they
got
an
attorney
involved,
which
we
got
an
attorney
involved
and
we've
been
in
negotiations
to
try
to
keep
it
out
of
the
court
system
and
legal
fees.
We
think
we've
come
up
to
some
solution.
If
the
board
approves
it
on
this
and
I'll,
let
bob
I'll-
let
you
take
it
over
from
there
and
then.
H
If
there's
any
any
specific
questions
about
the
the
agreement
itself,
then
I'm
sure
the
city
attorney
can
deal
with
those
issues.
But
why
don't
you
start
off
by
explaining,
after
the
many
talks
with
the
company
and
the
lawyer,
what
the
what
the
compromise
deal
we're
proposing
to
the
commission.
N
Happy
to
do
so
thanks
for
the
comments,
mr
la
course
I'm
robertson
project
administration,
department,
director
and
for
this
item
we're
asking
the
board
to
authorize
the
manager
to
execute
a
settlement
agreement
with
alto
construction
company
incorporated
so
back
in
may
of
this
year.
The
boc
awarded
a
construction
contract
to
alto
construct,
whether
penn
street
and
gross
avenue
drainage
and
roadway
reconstruction
project.
N
Since
that
time,
alto
has
stated
that
their
bid
is
a
risk
and
sought
to
withdraw
their
construction
bid.
Alto
claims
that
there
are
deficiencies
in
the
bidding
process
which
we
deny
and
the
city
has
the
right
to
register
a
claim
against
the
company's
bid
bond
and,
if
contested,
could
result
in
litigation.
So
with
both
parties
wishing
to
avoid
litigation,
we've
negotiated
a
settlement
proposal
for
your
consideration
tonight,
written
by
the
city
attorney
city
attorney,
rob
bishenfelder
and
through
which
the
the
following
would
occur.
N
In
summary,
first
alto
would
be
permitted
to
withdraw
its
bid
as
they
requested.
Second,
the
city
would
would
not
seek
to
recover
damages
through
alto's
bid
bond.
Third,
the
city
would
not
debar
alto
or
preventing
them
from
future
bidding
opportunities
and
four
in
exchange
for
these
conditions,
alto
would
self-perform
a
small
construction
project
at
no
cost
to
the
city.
On
behalf
of
the
city,
the
project
would
consist
of
furnishing
and
installing
about
eight
hundred
feet
of
new
six
inch
potable
water
pipeline
to
be
installed
in
the
mirrors
construct.
N
Excuse
me,
the
mirrors
extension
corridor.
The
purpose
there
to
improve
fire
flow
and
water
quality
alto
is
the
contractor
in
control
of
the
muir's
extension
corridor
at
this
time,
and
they
are
the
company
building
that
roadway.
So
it's
kind
of
a
maybe
a
win-win
win.
There.
N
N
This
settlement
proposal
is
to
the
city's
advantage,
because
without
resolution
we
cannot
proceed
with
the
pent-gross
stormwater
project.
The
pentrose
project
is
cooperatively
funded
through
a
grant,
as
the
city
manager
mentioned
from
the
water
management
district
from
swift
mud,
and
it
is
important
to
get
the
project
start
in
a
timely
manner.
N
Alto
has
already
agreed
with
the
excuse.
Me
has
already
approved
the
agreement
and
has
signed
it,
and
your
approval
of
this
item
tonight
would
be
considered,
as
the
mayor
said,
along
with
the
next
item,
which
requests
approval
to
rescind
the
award
of
the
contract
to
alto
and
awarding
the
bid
to
the
second
lowest
bidder.
That
is
my
summary
on
this
item
and
I
will
stop
there
for
questions.
E
Thank
you,
mr
robin,
so
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
on
all
the
projects
that
you
do.
We
appreciate
it.
The
question
that
I
have
is
to
mr
trask:
what's
your
lego,
beanie
opinion
in
regards
in
regards
to
the
agreement?
C
C
We
are
very
satisfied
with
the
way
that
it
currently
reads
we're
recommending
approval
of
it.
We
think
that,
as
a
direct
result
of
entering
to
the
settlement
agreement,
you've
recovered
eighty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
work
and
not
have
to
fight
to
force
the
the
performance
under
the
contract
or
fight
before
the
bid
bond
and
you'll.
Remember
that
the
bid
bond
is
five
percent
of
the
project
cost,
so
we
think
that
it's
a
very,
very
good
result.
C
I'm
going
to
leave
that
to
mr
robertson.
He
he
would
have
a
little
bit
more
information
on
that.
N
Well,
that
is
what
they
say
mayor.
They
say
they
made
a
mistake.
They
also
point
to
some
what
they
call
deficiencies
and
which
I
don't
believe
there,
but
they
they
do
primarily
lean
on
the
the
mistake
angle
that
they
made
mathematical
mistakes
and
are
unable
to
perform
the
work
for
the
price
they
did.
N
Yes,
we
did
check
the
references,
they
got
mostly
pretty
good
reviews
and
we
we
feel
that
that
bid
is,
although
it's
significantly
higher
than
the
alto
bit
it's
still
lower
than
the
engineer's
construction
cost
estimate
and
lower
than
our
budget.
So,
even
though
it's
a
high
number,
it's
still
within
our
budget.
E
I
Yeah
just
a
quick
comment,
mr
trask,
you
said
the
the
bid
bond
was
five
percent.
Is
that
right.
C
I
I
Okay,
so
we're
looking
at
a
difference
of
around
34
000
by
going
this
route
yeah,
I'm
I'm
gonna
support
this.
It's
a
weird.
I
mean
the
city's
got
to
pay
almost
a
million
dollars
more
with
the
next
company,
but
I
don't
really
see
fighting
over
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
in
the
bid
bond
process
with
attorney
fees.
I
think
we
could
exceed
that
pretty
quickly
in
this
process.
So
I'm
happy
to
support
this
tonight,
although
it's
a
bummer
to
see
that
we're
going
to
pay
more
overall.
Thank
you.
K
N
That
would
be
a
procurement
process
question.
I
I
think
the
answer
would
be.
We
could
regret
it
if
you
just
elected
to
do
that,
but
I
think
it's
in
our
best
interest,
both
in
terms
of
the
grant
that
we're
risking
and
the
fact
that,
although
it
is
a
higher
number
like
I
said,
we're
still
within
our
budget.
N
Well,
you
were
also
you
know,
risking
getting
higher
numbers
now
that
the
big
numbers
have
been
seen.
You
know
you
predict
how
the
market
responds.
K
Right
right,
okay,
I
mean,
aside
from
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
cost
us
more
money,
I'm
all
right
with
the
you
know
this
this
form
of
the
settlement.
Thank
you.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
I
really
just
want
to
thank
mr
robertson
and
mr
trask.
I
think
the
backup
was
really
well
read
and
I
mean
to
be
honest.
I
don't
want
to
gamble
with
the
grant.
I
think
the
timing,
the
timing
that
you
mentioned
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
so
I'm
gonna
support
it.
Obviously
you
know
not
the
best
conditions,
but
I
appreciate
your
guys
work
to
make
it
as
right
as
we
could.
M
Much
I've
got
a
couple,
I
mean,
obviously
we're
going
to
throw
a
tantrum
over
this
thing.
At
this
point
I
do
have
some
questions,
though
this
in
our
bidding
process-
and
I
I
assume
that
you
know
mr
jackass
is
part
of
this.
I
think,
mr
robertson,
you
might
be
part
of
this,
but
you've
got
one
bid
that
comes
in
at
2.28
million
dollars
and
then
you've
got
the
next
lowest
one
at
2.21.
M
Does
anybody
like?
I
know
we
deem
the
bids
to
be
complete,
but
does
anybody
ever
talk
to
these
people
to
like
double
check
and
triple
check
before
they
actually
sign?
They
signed
the
contract.
As
I
understand
we
just
they're
claiming
that,
because
we
didn't,
the
contract
wasn't
valid,
so
they
signed
it,
but
I
mean
it's
almost
like
I
think,
there's
some
responsibility
on
our
part
to
say
you
know,
are
you
guys
sure
of
this
and
and
that
I
think,
would
make
a
difference?
Certainly
their
company's
reputation
is
going
to
be
heard.
M
Out
of
this
I
would
suspect,
but
do
we
do
this?
Do
we
double
or
triple
check,
or
we
just
deem
them
to
be
to
be
complete?
We
come
to
the
commission
asking
for
2.28
million
dollars
and
then
later
we
find
out
these
guys
made
a
numerical
mistake
and
the
less
next
higher
bid
is
next
lower
bids.
3.21
million.
N
Yes,
sir,
we
do
in
fact
we
took
this
this
bid
and
went
line
by
line
and
compared
it
to
the
others
and
compared
it
to
our
engineers
estimates
so
that
we
thought
that
we
might
be
okay
with
2.2
million
some
of
the
places
that
alto
had
shown
significantly
lower
numbers
were
things
like
mobilization.
N
N
Another
item
was,
I
believe,
mot
maintenance
of
traffic.
Often
firms
will
contractors
will
sub
that
out
and
sometimes,
if
they
can
do
that,
in-house
or
internally,
their
internal
costs
can
be
much
lower.
There
were
things
like
that
that
were
that
were
unusual,
but
not
unbelievable.
N
So
we
did
definitely
take
a
very
look
at
that
before
we
recommended
award
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
M
M
The
new
contractor's
timeline
mr
robertson,
what
is
that
the
same
as
the
the
alto
or
is
it
different?
The
completion
time
well.
M
N
Well,
we've
yet
to
to
reach
out
to
that
contractor,
but
they'll
be
held
to
the
same
timeline
that
was
put
in
the
bid.
I
don't
recall
the
number
of
days
that
were
provided
in
that
bid,
but
well
it
will
be
the
same
number
just
based
on
when
we
get
shipping
to
proceed,
but
do
we
know
when
they
will
start?
M
Exactly,
and
has
I
I
would
assume
that
we've
confirmed
with
this
next
lower
bidder
that
they're
that
their
bid
is
still
valid.
M
Yes,
we
have,
and
what
getting
back
to
commissioner
tara
panty's
question
the
terms
of
the
grant.
M
I
know
you
had
this
in
here
somewhere
about
how
long
we
have
to
spend
the
money
to
actually
do
the
contract
or
is
it
based
on?
We
have
to
start
the
contract
by
a
certain
date.
N
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
the
contract
in
front
of
me,
so
I
don't
recall
the
details,
but
typically
the
way
those
cooperative
funding
grant
project
programs
work
with
the
water
management
district
is
they
have
a
fixed
schedule
and
a
fixed
deadline?
N
In
this
case,
we
know
we
won't
be
able
to
make
that
so
we're
going
to
have
to
go
to
the
governing
board
to
request
approval
for
a
no-cost
time.
Extension
on
that
grant
those
are
typically
very
readily
approved,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
know
exactly
the
schedule
we.
N
What
I
want
to
do
is
get
through
this
process
here,
assuming
it
was
approved
if
it
was
approved
tonight
then
take
a
look
at
the
the
schedule
and
adjust
our
and
ask
the
governing
board
of
the
water
management
district
to
approve
a
no-cost
extension
based
on
what
we
anticipate
time
of
award
all
right.
M
Well,
I'm
hoping
our
luck
stays
with
us
the
same
as
these
other
folks
that
they
have
no
objection
to
extending
their
terms
of
the
the
grant.
So
that's
all
the
questions
I
have
it's
an
unfortunate
situation.
I'm
glad
we're
able
to
get
the
80
000
water
project
as
part
of
the
mirrors,
but
I
I
just
I
just
think
that
you
know
I
don't
like
these
city
manager
and
fairness
to
him.
He
he
said
that
this
is
nothing
new.
M
E
E
K
I
E
E
D
C
Providing
for
repeal
of
ordinances
or
parts
of
ordinances
and
conflict
herewith,
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
and
providing
for
an
effective
day.
This
ordinance
that
was
the
first
reading
of
wardens
2020-27
by
title.
Only
there
will
be
a
second
reading
held
on
october
6
2020..
C
This
was
been
advertised
and
published
in
the
tampa
bay
times
by
title
only
or
will
be
on
september.
13
2020.
H
H
Something
about
the
date
I'll
be
talking
to
you
later
on
about
some
dates.
The
reason
we
have
the
six
is
I'll
be
proposing
later
on
a
cra
meeting
that
night
because
of
the
advertising
and
the
fact
that
saint
pete
times
has
changed
their
advertising
to
make
it
less.
We
we
had
to
change
the
date.
So
that's
why,
pending
your
approval
of
the
cra,
meet
on
the
six
that
we
put
a
special
session
and
put
the
second
reading
on
for
that
date,
so
it
can
take
into
effect.
E
H
E
M
I
have
one
there
section
1b
in
that
the
there's
an
addition
in
there
on
the
ordinance
that
says
that
the
thereafter
the
foregoing
impact
fee
shall
be
increased
or
decreased.
On
october,
1st
of
every
year
by
the
percentage
which
the
construction
cost
index
published
by
engineering
news
record,
commonly
referred
to
as
enrcci
has
increased
from
august
of
the
preceding
year.
To
august
of
the
then
year,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
just
giving
a
blank
check
to
this.
M
We
don't
know
what
the
increase
is
going
to
be
one
year
or
the
other,
and
and
we
talk
about
an
increase,
but
there
could
be
hypothetically
a
decrease
as
well,
and,
of
course,
that
may
be
wishful
thinking,
but
nevertheless,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
giving
how
we
would
charge
residents
and
businesses
impact
fees
based
on
what
some
construction
cost
index
tells
us
should
be
charged,
and
I'd
like
for
there
to
be
some
consideration
of
introducing
some
control
by
the
board
of
commissioners,
such
as.
M
M
Just
for,
and
I
don't
know
whether
you
would
do
that
by
resolution
by
a
change
of
the
ordinance,
but
I
I
think
it's
important
enough
for
us
to
do
that.
The
water
and
sewer
rates
are
an
automatic.
We
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
be
from
year
to
year,
at
least
until
we
do
our
new
sufficiency
rate
analysis
this
year,
but
this
one
there
isn't
any
percentage,
that's
set
it's
just
whatever
this
construction
index
tells
us,
it
would
be,
is
what
we
should
do.
I
Mayor
I've
got
to
comment.
That's
fine!
If
we
go
off
the
recommendations
on
the
consultant
that
was
used
tonight,
I'm
looking
at
it
everywhere
between
every
three
to
five
years.
I
don't
see
the
issue
of
using
the
index
in
this
situation,
because
if
they
are
to
exceed
or
not
to
be
enough,
that,
if
we
do,
if
we're
following
what
the
recommendations
are,
then
we're
gonna
capture
them
and
adjust
it
every
three
to
five
years.
M
Yeah
that
that
would
be
fine
too.
I
mean
it's
in
ordinance,
it's
in
the
ordinance
that,
even
if
it
just
shows
up
on
the
you
know,
of
course
we
can
intervene
and
say:
okay,
it's
on
the
ordinance,
so
we'll
change
the
ordinance,
because
it's
not
going
to
work
out
this
year,
but
just
somehow
right
now
there
isn't
any
provision
to.
Let
us
know
anything
concerning
what
that
increase
is
going
to
be
until
we
may
hear
from
some
developer
or
something
like
that,
that
you
know
it's
four
percent
or
something
like
that.
M
Why
is
it
such
a
big
jump
just
before
he's
going
to
get
his
project
started,
and
it's
just
I'm
uncomfortable
setting
a
precedence
by
taking
the
rate
changes
out
of
the
commission's
hands
and
putting
it
into
some
nebulous
construction
cost
index
that
we
just
have
put
full
faith
in
that?
That's
that's
going
to
be
adequately
represented
and-
and
it's
not
so
much
vice
mayor
carr,
you
know
the
three
or
five
year
we
may
not
get
hurt.
M
It's
just
the
principle
of
the
fact
that
we're
in
our
positions
to
monitor
these
sort
of
things-
and
I
just
don't
like
turning
our
responsibility
over
to
some
construction
cost
index
and
let
that
construction
cost
index
do
our
jobs
for
us
without
even
knowing
what
that's
going
to
be
until
after
it's
taken
into
effect.
That's
all
I'm
saying
right
now
there
isn't
anything
in
this.
Maybe
I'm
wrong
city
attorney
trash.
You
can
clarify
that,
for
me,
I'd
be
happy.
C
So
you
literally
have
two
years
of
cpi
or
cci
increases
before
it
comes
back
to
you
on
a
new
rate
study.
So
there's
nothing
different
than
what
has
happened
over
the
past
12
years.
C
You
can
just
take
it
out
completely
and
then
you
know
in
each
year
address
it
separately,
but
where
we
can
just
add
some
language
in
it
before
the
next
time
saying
that
it
that's
what
it
will
be.
Unless
you
know
it's
not
approved
by
the
city
commission
at
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
something
like
that,
we
could.
We
can
definitely
modify
it,
but.
M
That's
something
simple:
to
demonstrate
to
the
residents
that
we're
we're
we're
monitoring
this.
That's
all,
and
I
appreciate
that.
I
see
where
the
enrcc
is
abbreviated
in
past
years,
it's
crossed
out
and
we've
expanded
on
the
title,
but
still,
in
my
opinion,
it's
just
something
that
I
as
a
commissioner,
are
not
comfortable
with
whether
it
was
done
forever
and
that's
why
ordinances
change,
because
they're
no
longer
satisfactory
according
to
the
majority
of
the
commissioner.
So
we
need
to
make
a
change
that
that's
all
I'm
suggesting.
E
So
let
me
make
sure
if
I
understand
is
correctly
commissioned
with
secure,
so
you
recommended
to
to
review
by
the
boc
before
october
1st
every.
M
Year,
yeah,
it's
just
a
confirmation.
I
don't
want
to
change
what's
in
here,
but
just
for
to
to
the
commission
to
put
us
between
the
the
residents,
the
businesses
and
this
construction
cost
index
to
make
sure
that
we
know
what
the
increase
is
going
to
be.
I
I
don't
want
to
say:
well,
I
don't
know
what
it
was
and
and
for
whatever
reason
the
city
staff
hasn't
told
us
either.
If,
if
some
commission,
if
some
developer
is
asking
it
makes
an
issue
with
this,
I
just
don't
want
to.
I
don't
like
that.
M
That's
all
I
mean
it's
just
a
just
an
uncomfortable
feeling
for
me
not
knowing
what
that's
going
to
be
or
or
even
any
provision
for
their
to
be
communicated
to
us
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
complicated.
It
could
be
very
simple
and
and
again,
if
the
majority
of
the
commission
wants
to
leave
it
as
it
is,
I
don't
want
to
take
anybody
more
anybody
else's
time
up.
I
just
don't,
don't
think
it's
it's
the
proper
way
to
just
turn
something
over.
M
That
is
why
we're
here
is
to
monitor
those
sort
of
things.
Okay,.
E
M
E
K
E
C
Thank
you,
mayor
ordinance,
2020-23,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
amending
portions
of
chapter
20
of
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
creating
section
28,
I'm
sorry,
20-38
entitled
requirements
for
dental
facilities,
establishing
definitions
for
dental
facilities
in
amalgam,
waste
and
related
terms
requiring
dental
facilities
to
install
amalgam
separators
in
accordance
with
existing
federal
and
state
regulations,
requiring
dental
facilities
to
submit
a
one-time
compliance
report.
C
H
E
F
I
E
C
Air
commissioners,
ordinance
2020-22,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
mending
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Code
of
ordnance
is
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
land
development
code,
article
4
by
amending
sections,
56.05
and
56.06,
establishing
regulations
for
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicles
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
and
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
tarpon
since
florida
and
providing
for
the
effectiveness
of
this
ordinance.
C
M
H
P
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners
renee
vincent
planning
director.
So,
as
you
recall,
I
came
before
the
board
a
couple
of
months
ago,
as
just
as
a
a
discussion
item,
a
proposed
set
of
amendments
to
the
land
development
code
regarding
mobile
food
trucks
and
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
so
bear
with
me.
I
P
Okay,
great
just
want
to
make
sure
so
how
we
got
here.
Last
year,
the
legislature
passed
house
bill
1193,
which
became
effective
on
july,
the
1st
and
essentially
that
bill
preempts.
P
The
regulation
of
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicles
to
the
state,
and
so
any
kind
of
regulations
involving
licensing
registration
permits
and
fees
was
all
preempted
to
the
state.
The
ordinance
or
the
legislation
also
specifically
stated
that
a
municipality
cannot
outright
prohibit
mobile
food
trucks
from
the
entire
city.
P
Our
current
land
development
code
is
completely
silent
to
the
use
of
mobile
food
trucks
under
previous
interpretations
between
the
fact
that
they're
they
were
interpreted
as
prohibited
in
the
past
because
they
weren't
specifically
listed
in
any
zoning
district
and
then,
when
you
also
consider
the
you
know
under
the
old
occupational
licensing
now
business
tax
receipts
mobile
food
vending
was,
it
was
kind
of
lumped.
You
know
as
a
into
the
category
as
a
peddler
which
required
moving
about
every
15
minutes.
P
So
with
those
two
things
in
the
past,
these
were
basically,
you
know
interpreted
to
mean
that
you
could
not
have
a
mobile
food
truck
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
the
only
real
exception
to
that
would
be.
As
you
know,
you
could
always
go
through
our
90-day
temporary
use,
permit
process
or,
as
part
of
a
city
special
city
sponsored
special
event.
P
So,
at
a
minimum
we
need
to
address,
in
our
land
development
code,
some
place
in
some
manner
for
mobile
food
trucks
to
operate
within
the
city
as
it
stands
right
now
with
nothing
in
place.
Theoretically,
they
could
go
anywhere
that
they
like.
So
you
know,
so
we
drafted
a
set
of
two
amendments
or
two
new
sections
to
the
code
of
56.05,
which
was
mobile,
food
dispensing
vehicles.
We
call
that
I'll
go
with
a
little
more
detail
on
these
and
then
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles
as
accessory
to
an
existing
food
or
drink
establishment.
P
The
second
piece
of
that
56.06
was
really
aimed
at
in
trying
to
address
some
of
the
the
consequences
that
we've
had
from
the
coven
19
situation,
where
we
have
the
breweries
and
and
other
more.
You
know
drinking
related
establishments
that
don't
serve
food,
so
they
have
been
basically
prohibited
from
operating
or
reopening
because
they
don't
serve
food
I'll
defer
to
karen
lemmons
later
on.
If
you
have
questions
about
kind
of
the
status
of
where
that
is,
I
think
there's
been
some
relief
for
that,
but
still
not
completely
from
from
the
state.
P
The
planning
and
zoning
board
at
a
high
level
recommended
approval
of
the
first
part
of
this
ordinance
with
some
recommended
changes,
and
they
recommended
denial
of
the
second
piece
of
this,
which
is
the
the
kind
of
the
accessory
two
so
I'll
go
into
a
little
more
depth
on
both
of
those,
so
the
the
first
port
part
of
the
ordinance,
the
56.05
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles
temporary.
The
idea
here
is
that
we
would
set
hours
of
operation,
and
you
know,
geographic
area
where
a
mobile
food
truck
can
operate.
P
You
know
like
they
could
go
set
up
in
the
lowe's
parking
lot
with
the
permission
of
lows
and
they
could
they
could
vend
between
hours
of
8
and
10
pm.
You
know
they
can't
operate
on
the
rights
of
way
we
were
had
originally
proposed.
It
would
be
limited
to
one
one
vehicle
per
parcel.
P
You
can't
store
them
there
overnight.
You
can't
just
set
them
up
there
and
leave
them
there.
You
need
to
take
them,
go
back
wherever
you
came
from
when
you're,
not
in
operation,
and
you
have
to
dispose
of
all
your
waste
products
in
accordance
with
state
and
federal
federal
regulations,
so
the
board
the
planning
of
zoning
boards.
I
said
when
they
reviewed
this.
They
were
generally
supportive
of
this
section
of
the
ordinance.
They
did
have
some
further
recommendations
that
I
would
like
to
get
clarification
from
the
board
tonight
or
consensus.
P
P
The
second
recommendation
that
they
made
would
be
to
further
limit
the
hours
of
operation
to
that
of
the
host
business.
So
if
it's
a
24-hour
business
so
out
on
us
19,
if
there's
a
cvs
or
something
that's
open,
24
hours
a
day,
you
you
can
only
you
still
can
only
operate
between
8
am
and
10
pm,
but
if
the
business
closes
earlier
than
that,
so
let's
say
they
close
at
eight,
then
the
mobile
food
vendor
would
have
to
you
know,
stop
operations
of
eight
and
get
off
the
site
as
well.
P
P
So
this
map
shows,
as
the
ordinance
is
drafted
right
now.
This
is
where
the
mobile
food
vendor
mobile
food
vendors
operate
with
the
exclusion
of
this
kind
of
bright
green
area.
That's
a
special
area
plan,
but
I
wanted
to
show
it
on
the
map
for
reference.
So
all
these
other
districts,
the
highway
business
general
business,
the
industrial
areas,
the
planning
attorney
board-
was
very
supportive
of
allowing
this
industrial
area
because
they
recognize
that
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
places
close
by
for
people
to
run
to
lunch
and
things
like
that.
P
So,
but,
as
it's
currently
drafted,
you
also
have
some
areas
that
are
right
outside
the
special
area
plant
boundary
where
you
could
do
this
by
the
way
it's
drafted
right
now
and
the
board
was
concerned
about
having
any
encroachment
at
all
into
the
you
know
the
sponge
docs
in
the
cra
area.
They
also
you
know
we're
cognizant
of
well
you've
got
some.
P
You
know
you
got
these
little
pockets
out
in
residential
areas
where
you've
got
a
gas
station
and
a
restaurant,
so
they
were
they're
being
mindful
of
that
and
they
really
recommended
that
we
find
a
way
to
restrict
that
a
little
further
so
and
taking
another
look
at
that,
I
pulled
together
a
map
that
is
just
this
is
just
the
highway
business,
zoning
and
all
of
our
industrial
zoning,
and
so
that
you
see
really
starts
to
tighten
up
the
area.
P
It's
really
limiting
it
to
the
u.s
19
corridor
and
the
industrial
areas
out
in
the
north
anklet
area,
in
a
small
area
to
the
south
on
south
u.s
alt-19.
So
that
tightens
it
up
a
bit
and,
I
think,
puts
a
little
tighter
box
around
it.
I
didn't
have
that
map
for
the
pnz
I'm
so
I'm
kind
of
you
know
channeling
what
they
were
talking
about
and
where
I
think
they
were
going.
P
The
second
part
of
the
ordinance
is
the
5606
mobile
and
food
dispensing
vehicles
as
accessory
to
a
food
or
drink
establishment.
And
again
this
the
board
was
not
supportive
of
at
this
point
they
did
say
that
they
would.
You
know
like
to
see
some
additional
work
on
it
and
have
it
have
it
maybe
come
back,
so
I
won't
go
into
the
real
details
of
this
unless
you
want
to
discuss
it
and
if
you're
supportive
of
it,
but
we
did
lay
out
specific
criteria.
P
You
know
you
had
to
be.
You
know
a
food
or
drink,
I'm
sorry,
a
a
yeah,
a
food
or
drink
establishment
existing
or
a
restaurant
or
a
brewery
already
so,
and
this
is
really
would
be
deemed
accessory
to
your
business.
It
would
allow
you
know
a
second
or
a
non-affiliated
food
truck.
So
if
you
know
person
b
has
their
own
food
truck
and
their
own
thing
and
they
want
it
you
they
could
cut
you
you
through
an
operating
agreement.
They
could
set
up
on
your
site,
so
it
was.
P
It
was
fairly
broad
in
what
it
would
allow.
So
the
discussion
points
really
for
the
temporary.
You
know
the
allowable
locations,
the
hours
of
operation.
P
I
don't
think
really
there's
too
much
to
discuss
too
much
about
public
streets
and
city-owned
property.
I
think
we're
clear
on
that
and
then
the
number
of
allowed
per
parcel
and
then
on
the
accessory
used
to
a
food
or
drink
establishment.
Again,
the
bigger
picture
of.
Do
you
want
to
move
forward
with
that
tonight
or
do
you
want
to
take
that
back
and
maybe
take
a
take
a
deeper
dive
on
that
before
we
consider
approving
that
so
I'll
stop
there
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
I
can.
E
Thank
you,
ms
vincent.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
thanking
all
the
hard
work
you've
been
there.
P
K
E
E
I
would
like
to
say
that
I'm
very
disappointed
without
our
legislators
for
mandating
and
interfering
with
our
home
rule
again
and
by
by
you
know
bypassing
the
house
bill.
1183,
we
obligated
dedicated
location
for
food
trucks,
miss
vinson.
I
I
agree
with
our
plane
in
the
zoning
board
that
I
support
the
f5605,
but.
P
D
E
Okay,
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
the
5605
I
I
recommend
the
the
recommendations
of
the
plenty
of
zoni
that
I
will
support
that
on
the
highway
district
as
well
as
the
industrial
area.
I
think
that
will
be
very
useful,
but
in
regards
to
the
5606,
I
would
not
support
that,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
even
though
that
I
like
food
trucks
and
for
special
events
and
city
festivals
and
a
state
fair.
But
here
in
tarpon
springs,
we've
been
working
very
hard
to
improve
the
cra
and
the
sports
docks.
E
We
offer
in
facade
improvement,
grants
into
interior
renovation,
grants
restaurant
recruitment
grants
and
bring
the
buildings
up
to
the
code
grants
and
continuously
we're
doing
beautification
projects
to
make
it
nicer
and
enjoyable
for
the
residents
and
to
attract
more
businesses
to
turkish
francs.
Our
restaurant
owners
spend
a
lot
of
money
going
through
many
regulations
to
be
able
to
operate
the
restaurants.
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
allow
them
to
put
a
trailer
or
a
a
mobile
food
truck
right
right
next
to
their
businesses
or
behind
their
businesses.
I
would
not
support
that
with
that.
E
I
would
like
to
go
to
vice
mayor
carr.
I
Thanks
mayor
renee,
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
for
you,
so
with
56.06.
Would
that
allow
food
trucks
within
the
spa
or
special
area
plan?
It.
P
Would
yes,
it
would,
but
only
as
accessory
it
would
have
to
be
accessory
to
an
existing
established,
either
restaurant
or
or
drink
establishment.
So,
like
the
breweries
or,
if
you
have
you
know
a
bar,
something
like
that
that
didn't
doesn't
doesn't
routinely
have
food,
so
it
would
have
to
be
accessory
to
a
business
like
that.
L
P
The
ice
cream
shops
and
like
the
the
lunch
stands
and
things
I
think,
are
something
that,
and
I
think
I
had
put
that
in
you
know
as
a
as
a
discussion
point.
If
we're
going
to
move
forward,
you
know,
is
there
a
do?
You
need
to
have
a
a
minimum
seating?
You
know
within
the
primary
establishment,
which
I
think
we
probably
should,
because
we're
basically
saying
that
the
host
establishment
has
to
be
able
to
provide
services
so
bathrooms
seating.
You
know
sanitation
facilities
and
things
of
that
that
so
we
haven't.
I
I
P
I
think
the
general
consensus
was
that
you
know
there's
a
that.
The
the
existing
restaurants
have
have,
you
know,
obviously
had
to
expend
considerable
money
in
a
bricks
and
mortar
restaurant
and
putting
improvements
into
those.
That
is,
you
know.
Basically,
it's
not
inexpensive
to
to
open
a
restaurant.
P
You
know
from
the
you
know
the
investment
standpoint,
and
so
I
believe
that
you
know
the
consensus
was
that
you
know
by
bringing
in
a
mobile
food
truck
you're
kind
of
circumventing
that
that
investment,
and
so
I
think
you
know
that
I
think
that
was
the
the
major
concern
with
with
the
planning
of
zoning
board.
I
Okay,
so
I
mean
from
my
thought
process
with
like
an
accessory
truck.
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
available
and
something
to
think
about
too,
with
the
food
trucks
is,
I
think,
backdraft
started
off
as
a
food
truck
and
then
they
transitioned
to
like
a
full-time
restaurant.
I
You
have
a
lot
of
people
that
have
goals
and
aspirations
to
open
up
a
restaurant,
but
the
capital
is
extensive
to
get
started.
So
the
food
truck,
I
think,
is
a
great
opportunity
as
a
stepping
stone
to
get
in
to
becoming
a
restaurant
and
getting
really
to
find
out
if
you're
gonna
be
successful
or
not,
because
to
put
forty
fifty
thousand
dollars
up
and
then
fall
flat
in
your
face
two
months
later,
one
it's
an
embarrassment.
I
Secondly,
you've
lost
a
lot
of
capital
where
it's
maybe
lesser
cost
for
a
food
truck
to
get
going.
So
looking
at
this,
the
the
secondary
food
trucks
they'll
need
to
be
or
the,
how
do
I
say,
accessory
food
truck
in
56.06.
I
They
would
need
to
be
connected
to
like
the
main
power
so
like
a
30
or
50
amp.
So
there
wouldn't
be
like
a
generator
out
there
running
right.
P
Correct
that
that's
something
that
we,
you
know
from
a
staff
perspective
when
I
vetted
this
through
the
other
departments
and
and
even
talking
with
karen
and
just
looking
at
locationally,
where
these,
where
these
potentially
could
end
up.
You
know
I
don't
want
a
food
truck
banging
out
a
generator
across
from
outdoor
seating
at
another
restaurant
or
in
a
red.
You
know
where
my
you
might
have
a
residential
area,
so
we
didn't
want
to
require
that
they
have
the
ability
to
you
know
to
tie
into
the
electric
for
their.
You
know
for
their
power.
I
Okay,
so
I
understand
that
planning
and
zoning
brought
up
that
they
just
want
to
see,
maybe
in
the
highway
business
and
industrial
areas
was
there
any
discussions
like
to
have
available
like
once,
a
month
or
one
week
in
a
month,
food
trucks
and
available
in
the
spa
at
all.
P
Oh,
let
me
so
let
me
be
clear
at
no
point
would
this
override
the
city's
special
event
ordinance,
so
you
know
just
like
they.
You
know
you
have
now
so
like
first
fridays
or
things
like
that,
if
a
special
event
gets
approved
by
the
by
the
board,
then
yes,
you
can
do
that
anywhere
in
the
city.
I
I
Okay,
also
from
my
standpoint,
I
am
a
patron
to
many
restaurants
in
tarpon
springs
having
two
young
kids,
it's
much
easier
to
grab
some
to-go
food
than
cook
right
now.
So
I
completely
support
what
the
mayor
was
saying
with
supporting
a
local
restaurants.
I
I
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
a
special
weekend
if
it's
like
one
week
in
a
month
where
food
trucks
are
allowed
potentially
within
the
spa,
and
then
I
do
support
the
the
56.06
with
the
accessory
food
truck
to
establishments.
I
think
it's
a
nice
compliment
to
the
breweries.
I
Typically,
when
you
have
a
brewery,
you
have
there's
no
food
available,
but
you're
hanging
out
and
it's
nice
to
have
something
that
you
can
grab
and
then
it
also
gives
a
business
owner
a
chance
to
get
their
feet
wet
in
this
type
of
industry
as
well.
So
I
think
the
56.06
is
actually
a
nice
thing
to
have.
You
have
a
picture
of
rusty
bellies
here
as
an
example,
I
know
they
use
that
for
their
burgers
to
go
on
like
the
first
or
thursday
and
wednesday
of
the
month.
I
Would
that
ultimately
ban
them
from
using
their
food
truck
in
that
situation?.
P
So
in
the
past,
and
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
fine
distinction
here
in
the
past,
these
you
know,
having
like
a
food
truck
like
rusty
bellies,
does
didn't
necessarily
it
wasn't
considered
under
the
existing
accessory
use
ordinance.
So
in
the
in
article
2,
you
know,
under
your
general
use
regulations
every
every
zoning
district
in
every
zoning
district
you
can
have
an
accessory
use.
That
is
complementary
to
the
primary
business.
You
know
that's
and-
and
you
know,
subordinate
in
nature
and
complementary
or
an
extension
of
and
of
the
existing
business.
P
So
I
think
you
can
make
an
argument
under
the
existing
code
right
now
that
what
rusty
bellies
has
would
be
because
they
own
that
truck
it's
an
extension
of
their
business.
Their
business
name
is
on
it.
It's
not
a
third
party
out
coming
in.
I
think
you
can
make
an
argument
right
now
that
that
that
that
would
be
allowable
as
long
as
it
is
otherwise
meeting.
You
know,
regulations
of
the
city,
so
I
you
know
I'll
be
candid.
P
I
don't
think
that
that's
an
interpretation
of
the
past,
but
I
would
be
very
comfortable
with
that.
You
know,
as
a
zoning,
you
know
as
a
zoning
director,
so
that's
maybe
a
larger
discussion.
You
know
I
would
prefer
to
see
something
get
into
the
code,
that's
clear
about
it,
but
I
think
right
now,
under
the
accessory
use
section
of
the
code,
you
could
consider
that.
P
The
existing
accessory
uses
exist,
accessory
use
section
of
the
code
in
article
2
of
the
land
development
code.
There's
a
there's,
a
broad
accessory
use
ordinance
in
place
already
that
I
think
you
could.
Logically,
you
know
say
that
you
know
a
food
truck
like
what
rusty
bellies
has
is
accessory
to
their
primary
business.
They
own
it,
they
operate
it
and
it's
it's
part
of
their
business.
I
would
be
hard-pressed
to
say
no
to
that,
but
I
mean
that's.
That
would
be
my
interpretation.
I
I
I
P
Down
to
what's
considered,
you
know
some
of
that's,
you
know
splicing
fine
hairs.
You
know
if
the
primary
business
needs
to
be
the
you
need
to
have
a
legitimate
primary
business
established.
So
you
know
you
can
take
a
view
that
you
know
and
I'm
happy
to
discuss,
pros
and
cons
of
this.
You
know
that
you
know
you
have
a
limited
amount
of
food
production
that
can
come
out
of
a
food
truck,
and
so
as
long
as
it
truly
is
accessory
to
that
primary
business
and
supports
their
business,
you
know.
P
K
Thank
you
so
miss
vincent,
just
based
on,
like
kind
of
the
conversation
that
you
just
had
with
the
vice
mayor
right.
My
thinking
is,
is
that
if
you're,
if
you're,
already
an
established
business
right
and
you're
applying
for
an
accessory
use
of
a
food
truck
downtown
on
tarpon
avenue
for
your
existing
business,
you're
saying
that
within
the
section
two
of
the
existing
land
development
code,
one
could
already
apply
for
that.
Regardless
of
what
we
decide
tonight
on
5606.
P
P
You've
got
to
be
able
to
functionally,
you
know,
locate
it
on
the
site.
You
know
still
meet
your
required
parking.
You
know
all
that
stuff.
So,
yes,
I
think
you
could
make
a
legitimate
argument
under
that
that
existing
accessory
use
section
of
article
2
that
that
that
would
be
is
it
is
it
accessory?
Is
it
supporting
of
the
primary
business
and
is
it
subordinate
in
nature?
That's
really
the
things
that
you
have
to
look
at.
P
Yes,
I
think
you
could
do
it
anywhere.
Okay,
not
me!
I'm
gonna
treat
it
with
you.
That's
not!
The
interpretation
that's
been
made
in
the
past.
I'm
saying
my
my
current,
you
know
interpretation
is
that,
yes,
you
could
because
the
code's
completely
silent
to
mobile
food
trucks.
So
what
is
accessory?
So
you
know-
and
it's
you
have
to
look
at
that
section
and
and
parse
through
it.
But
yes,
I
think
that
would
be
applicable.
K
And
if
the
board
followed
the
recommendation
of
the
planning
and
zoning
board
and
denied
5606,
it's
still
applicable,
you
can
still
have
an
accessory
use
as
it
relates
to
this
food
truck
or
trailer.
Assuming
you
met
all
the
other
criteria,
correct.
K
P
K
So
let
me
tell
you
why
I
think
that's
important.
Okay
is
because,
if
you're
already,
if
it's
already
an
accessory
use,
if
you're
already
in
business
as
a
restaurant
or
a
bar
or
whatever,
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
understand
where
the
mayor's
coming
from
in
terms
of
excuse
me
the
capital
required
and
what
the
city
is
doing
in
terms
of
our
efforts
to
recruit
new
restaurants
and
code
updates,
and
things
like
that.
P
So
the
difference
would
be
one
we're
clearly
establishing
criteria
that
don't
exist
so
additional
criteria,
but
I
think
the
biggest
fine
point
on
it
is
the
way
it's
written
today
under
article
2
and
the
accessory
use
ordinance
today
I
would,
I
would
not
be
comfortable
with
a
third-party
vendor
or
you
know,
an
outside
vendor
bringing
a
you
know
a
separate.
You
know
something:
that's
not
you
don't
own.
The
restaurant
doesn't
have
that
investment,
so
they
don't
own
it
and
they
don't
operate
it.
They
have
somebody
else,
bringing
it
on
site
and
operating
it.
K
L
Mayor,
I
think
I'm
I'm
kind
of
picking
up
on
the
vibe
of
the
commission
and
I
think,
we're
all
kind
of
pulling
in
the
same
direction
where
you
know
we
want
to
do
what
we
can
to
allow
restaurants
to
be
empowered,
make
creative
decisions,
especially
in
a
time
like
this,
and
you
also
don't
want
to
introduce
unfair
competition
to
maybe
some
of
their
neighboring
restaurants,
or
something
like
that.
This
is
something
that
I
actually
spoke
with
miss
vincent
earlier
about.
L
So
I
really
appreciate
you
miss
vincent
for
working
with
me
and
I
actually
got
the
code
pulled
up
that
we
keep
talking
about
that
accessory
use
code
and
it
says
an
accessory
use
is
a
use
or
structure
which
complies
with
the
following
standards.
It
is
clearly
incidental
to
customarily
found
in
association
with
and
serves
a
primary
use.
Two
is
subordinate
and
purpose
area
and
extent
to
the
primary
use.
Served
three
contributes
to
the
comfort
convenience
or
necessity
of
the
primary
you
served.
L
Four
it's
located
on
the
same
lot
tracked
parcel
or
property
as
the
primary
use.
So
I
feel
pretty
comfortable
with
that.
I
think
I
I
mean
I
completely
agree
with
you
miss
vincent
that
I
feel
comfortable
with
that.
You
know
protecting
a
business
from
having
a
food
truck
that
is
directly
there.
So,
like
you
know,
namely
places
like
rusty
bellies
or
bayou
bistro.
L
You
know,
I
think
they
would
be
protected
under
that
that
exists
right
now,
just
being
that
it
is
serving
their
primary
use
as
well.
So
I
do
definitely
want
to
make
that
distinction
between
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
and
then
because
I
think
they're
they're
protected,
regardless
of
what
we
do
with
you
know,
56.06
when
it
comes
to
the
third
party
stuff,
I
guess
if
you
could
just
paint
a
better
picture
for
me,
because
I
know
discussion
point
is
the
private
property
versus
public
streets?
Is
that
really
discussion
point?
Q
L
L
So
when
it
comes
to
you
know
56.06,
you
know
I
would
I
would
support
it,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
those
you
know
those
other
businesses
that
are
already
in
use
are
protected,
but
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
the
rest
of
the
board
has
to
say.
A
M
You
mayor,
I
I
think
I'm
going
along
with
the
majority
right
now,
but
there's
some
details
here,
that
kind
of
a
couple
of
twists
and
turns
from
a
couple
of
the
commissioners
that
if
we
could
kind
of
standardize
the
what
we're
looking
at,
that
would
be
very
helpful.
M
By
the
way,
I
listened
to
the
public
in
the
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting
and
it
was
a
very
interesting
meeting
and
I
I
appreciated
what
they're
saying-
and
I
know
there
were
a
couple
of
helpful
other
suggestions
in
there
as
well
that
we
haven't
talked
about
tonight,
but
let
on
the
50
getting
the
the
state
requirement
out
of
the
way.
First,
the
5605
I'm
not
thrilled
with
allowing
a
food
truck
to
operate
until
10
o'clock
at
night.
M
I'm
not
sure
who
would
be
using
it
at
10
o'clock
at
night,
but
certainly
eight
o'clock
would
be
fine,
something
a
little
more
reasonable
and
if
the
commission
other
commissioners
could
kind
of
make
note
of
that,
so
we
can
kind
of
come
to
some
consensus
on
that.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
M
I
I'm
not
in
favor
of
allowing
more
than
one
food
truck
per
larger
parcel.
Those
were
the
two
p
and
z
recommendations
that
two
of
them
and
then
I
also
agreed.
There
was
a
single
that
which
I
don't
think
we
talked
about
tonight.
There
was
that
little
green
square
out
there
on
golf
road,
which
was
next
to
jimmy's
restaurant.
I
think
it
was
the
is
it
the
marathon
or
the
one
of
the
gas
stations.
P
M
That's
the
only
thing
I
I
picked
up
on
that,
and
I
thought
that
was
a
good
idea
to
to
exclude
that
one
out
there
anyway,
in
addition
to
the
ones
you're
talking
about
now,
the
also
for
the
industrial
areas
and
maybe
the
highway
business
district.
I
think
eight
o'clock
is
a
little
too
late.
M
I
I
think
home
depot
and
lowe's
opens
at
seven,
I
believe,
and
some
of
these
industrial
businesses
that
we
have
out
on
ankle
would
people
are
going
to
be
showing
up
at
seven
wanting
to
drink
their
coffee
and
stuff
before
they
get
into
it.
M
But
I'd
like
to
consider
have
some
consideration
for
maybe
changing
that
eight
o'clock
eight
a.m
to
a
seven
a.m
in
the
morning
for
the
highway
business,
district
and
and
industrial
area
north
of
the
ancload-
that's
kind
of
a
self-regulating
time
frame
anyway,
but
on
the
other
hand,
ten
o'clock,
I
think
it's
too
late.
Ms
vincent
the
I
know
they
have
to
go
home
at
night,
that
sort
of
thing,
but
is
there
any
there's
nothing
that
I've
seen
in
the
ordinance
that
would
discourage
a
food
truck
from
being
at
the
same
location?
M
M
M
My
sense
is
that
the
some
of
the
businesses
that
I've
talked
to
that
right
now
are
closed
down
because
they've
fallen
into
this
trap
of
being
in
the
category
of
a
bar
and
a
nightclub,
but
they're
a
brewery
and
a
winery,
but
they
can't
open
because
the
state
sees
them
as
a
bar
in
a
nightclub
and
they've
tried
to
get
some
relief
and
maybe
there's
something
that
miss
vincent,
you
can
say.
Maybe
there's
been
some
relief
and
miss
vince.
Miss
lemons
is
here
tonight
on
that,
but
you
know
brewery
opened
up
as
a
brewery.
M
It
didn't
open
up
to
be
a
restaurant,
and
I
know
the
one
brewery
that
I've
had
some
discussions
with.
They've
actually
worked
out
an
arrangement
not
now,
but
before
co-bed
of
just
the
sort
of
things
that
vice
mayor
carr
was
talking
about.
People
come
in
and
want
to
have
some
beers,
but
they
don't
want
to
continue
drinking
on
an
empty
stomach.
M
M
So
the
only
other
option
was
to
try
and
get
some
kind
of
a
a
business
license
through
the
use
of
something
like
a
food
truck
in
order
to
be
able
to
keep
their
doors
open,
not
as
a
restaurant,
but
as
a
brewery
because
of
this
problem
that
they've
had
with
the
state.
M
The
the
the
one
thing
that
also
in
this
5606
it's
an
accessory
use.
So
I
had
some
questions.
It
would
not
be
that
the
food
truck
would
not
be
the
business
entity.
It
would
not
be.
You
know
joe's
hot
dog
serving
at
exactly
one
of
the
breweries.
It
would
be
part
of
the
brewery
operation,
so
they
wouldn't
be
selling
out
of
the
food
truck
yeah
out
of
the
food
truck.
P
So
so,
as
as
it's
written
right
now,
we
were,
we
were
allowing
like
that
again.
I
called
them
like
that
third
party
or
that
independent
operator,
so
instead
of
having
that
that
arrangement
with
a
restaurant
coming,
you
know
and
providing
food
for
that.
You
know
to
your
patrons,
you
would
allow
you
know
a
food
truck
to
maybe
from
the
hours
of
five
to
eight
pm
to
park
on
your
site
and
serve
food
to
your
customers.
So
you
wouldn't
have
that's
the
way
it's
drafted
right
now,
no.
M
I'm
not,
I
think
it
was
commissioner
tara
pantie.
That
voiced
concerns
exactly
I'd,
be
concerned
about
that
as
well,
because
the
people
that
I've
spoken
to
are
looking
at
it
for
the
purpose
of
serving
in
their
restaurants,
not
serving
out
of
the
food
truck,
because
some
of
the
some
of
the
locations
that
you're
going
to
park
this
food
truck,
it's
not
conducive
for
somebody
to
walk
up
to
the
food
truck,
get
their
food
and
then
walk
all
the
way
along
the
building
and
go
inside
again.
P
M
Okay,
so
I've
expressed
my
sentiment
on
that,
the
the
the
if
you
go
to
your
right
at
the
beginning
of
5606,
where
you've
got
your
first
sentence.
M
It's
it
talks
about
the
food
dispensing
may
be
located
as
an
accessory
use.
M
And
and
and
then
it
would
be
legally
established
food
subject
to
the
following
criteria:
one
of
these
was
that
it
would
not
follow
the
standards
from
above.
Am
I
wrong
around
that
about
that.
P
A
P
M
Right
that
is,
and
thank
you
for
helping
me
out,
but
the
thing
that
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
is
that
some
of
those
standards,
I
think,
would
apply.
For
example,
the
mobile
food
dispensing
shall
be
only
be
authorized
on
a
parcel
of
land
consistent
with
this
section,
no
more
than
one
mobile
food
sort
of
thing.
The
the
parcel
owner
shall
obtain
a
business
license
or
whatever
then
there's
some
other
criteria.
That,
and
I
think
the
distinction
between
the
accessory
use
right
now
and
it
not
being
codified,
is
the
fact.
M
These
other
criteria
that
you're
mentioning
about
hooking
up
to
the
city's
sewer
system
and
the
grease
trap
program
and
not
having
a
generator
and
having
service
from
the
building
or
some
other
location
without
a
generator
running,
would
would
apply
to
the
to
the
something
that
would
be
codified
as
you're
showing
it
in
5606,
but
not
as
it
is
right
now
in
the
second
to
the
land
development
code,
for
example,
and
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
way
things
are
going.
M
So
these
restaurants
are
clean
operations,
but
right
now
we
don't
require
them
to
hook
up
to
a
grease
trap
or
anything
like
that
at
some
of
these
sites
that
they're
located,
I
don't
want
to
mention
any
names,
but
one
we
are
one
we're
not
so
it
just
formalizes
the
process
a
little
more.
If
we
do
include
something
like
that
in
the
5606.
M
The
the
thing
that
commissioner
terra
panty
was
talking
about-
and
I
want
to
get
back
into
these
little-
the
third
party
thing
I
think,
is
different
than
if
the
the
type
of
business
that
can
get
a
food
truck
would
lease
it,
in
other
words,
to
start
hiring
some
guy
that
operates
a
food
truck
to
come
onto
their
restaurant.
But
if,
if
a
brewery
or
some
other
non-food
stalling
establishment
wishes
to
lease
it
but
not
buy
it,
that
would
be
allowed.
Or
am
I
wrong?
M
No,
I'm
sorry
to
you,
ms
vincent,
under
56.06,.
P
As
it's
currently
written,
yes,
that
would
that
would
be
fine.
I
think
the
distinction
that
I'm
hearing
kind
of
the
consensus
from
the
board
is
they
want
to
they.
They
want
to
kind
of
take
out
that
third-party
operator,
but
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
so
if,
if
I
don't
buy
the
food
truck,
but
I
lease
it
and
I
operate
it
as
part
of
my
business-
is
that
okay.
M
M
The
other
thing
I
think
vice
mayor
carr,
talked
about
something
of
allowing
in
vice
mayor,
carr,
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
about
this,
I
don't
want
to
misquote
you,
but
something
like
one
or
two
weeks
out
of
a
month
or
one
or
two
weekends
out
of
a
month
where
food
trucks
can
come
into.
The
special
area
plan
is
that,
is
that
what
you
were
saying
or.
M
Okay,
I
I
would
not
be
supporting
that
and
that
gets
back
to
what
the
mayor
was
saying.
I'd
like
to
have
some
orderly
process
to
control
this.
I
know
we've
had
problems.
I
know
we've
had
problems
at
epiphany
where
some
of
these
vendors
come
in
and
and
are
somewhat
parasitic
and
that
they
hang
out
on
the
outskirts
of
the
crowds
and
things
like
that
and
pick
people
off
going
into
the
festivals
and
things
like
that
and
our
police
does
what
it
can.
But
but
that's
the
sort
of
thing.
M
If
we
don't,
if
we're
not
careful
with
the
special
special
events,
then
then,
then
that
would
continue
the
the
the
one
thing
that
commissioner
tara
pani
brought
up,
that
I'd
like
to
offer
some
just
some
additional
information,
or
maybe
it
was
vice
mayor
carr.
M
I
think
it's
different
if
a
business
has
a
special
event
where
they
have
to
apply,
for
you
know
something
where
they're
going
to
be
using
public
property.
M
I
think
it's
another
thing
where,
if
they've
got
some
internal
little
festival
that
they're
having
going
on
somebody's
birthday
or
somebody,
you
know
rinse
the
place
or
something
like
that
and
they'd
like
to
have
some
additional
food
brought
in.
I
think-
and
this
is
just
a
hypothetical
I
think
in
that
particular
case,
it
would
be
a
special
event,
but
it
wouldn't
be
especially
defend
as
we
understand
it
through
the
go
ahead.
Ms
vincent.
P
Yeah,
so
I
failed
to
mention
the
other,
the
other
section
of
our
land
development
code.
The
overall,
you
know
you
can
get
a
temporary,
a
90-day
temporary
use
permit
through
the
technical
review
committee.
So
you
see
those
come
up
for
things
like
the
christmas
tree
sales
and
the
pumpkin
patches,
and
things
like
that.
So
there's
a
there's
a
there
is
a
relief
valve
there
for
that,
if
necessary,.
M
And
that
would
be
fine.
We
don't
need
to
address
that.
M
The
the
last
thing
I
know,
mr
seaman,
the
chairman
of
the
pnc,
talked
about
with
this
reluctance
of
the
5606
on
the
in
the
discussion
that
night
he
brought
up
perhaps
a
conditional
use
for
the
purpose
of
relieving
the
problems
that
we've
got
during
cobit,
and
I
I
don't
know
in
all
honesty
whether
we
would
be
here
talking
about
this
tonight
other
than
the
state
of
course,
but
it
wasn't
for
covid
the
5606
part,
because
I
think
that's
what
initiated
this
process
of
trying
to
get
some
relief,
and
I
think
what
mr
seaman
was
talking
about
was
a
food
truck
as
a
conditional
use.
P
The
attorneys
were
the
attorney
there
that
evening
expressed
a
little
bit
of
concern
because,
because
the
state
has
weighed
in
on
this,
that
if
we
set
it
up
as
a
conditional
use
and
one
was
granted
and
and
then
another
one
was
denied
in
a
similarly
situate,
similar
similar
situation,
that
we
could
be
kind
of
setting
ourselves
up
potentially
for
a
challenge.
So
that
was
that
was
expressed
by
the
attorney
at
the
meeting.
M
The
the
angle
that
I
was
thinking
about
was
actually
the
restaurant,
not
the,
not
it
not
being
keyed
off
the
restaurant,
in
other
words
the
restaurant's
having
a
hardship
such
as
a
kitchen
fire
or
something
like
covet
or
some
other
thing
that
shuts
them
down
in
the
kitchen
and
there's
a
variety
of
tools
at
their
disposal.
An
outdoor
cooking
facility,
which
is
different
than
a
food
truck
which
is
licensed
through
the
state,
a
food
truck
that
sort
of
thing.
M
So
we're
not
keying
off
the
idea
of
a
food
truck
and
allowing
a
food
truck
to
be
brought
in,
but
for
this
business.
But
for
somebody
else,
we're
not
that
business
would
be
bringing
in
a
food
truck
for
specific
problem
that
they're
having
or
a
specific
issue,
and
I
think
that
distinction
could
be
made.
M
So
if
we
don't
go
with
a
5606
tonight,
I'd
like
some
consideration
going
back
to
providing
the
ability
of
the
city
to
provide
some
relief
to
food
establishments,
whether
they're,
restaurants
or
something
else
on
an
emergency
basis
that
would
allow
them
to
use
a
food
truck
or
something
else
to
help
them
relieve
the
issue.
Rather
than
than
you
know,
allowing
only
pinning
it
down
to
just
a
food
truck-
and
that's
all
you
can
have,
I
guess,
is
what
I'm
getting.
P
And
if
I
can
take
a
moment
to
address
that
so
again,
I
think
I
think
our
you
know
our
temporary
use
permit
process
that
allows
a
temporary
use
for
up
to
90
days
and
you
can
get
it
up
to
a
90
day.
Extension
to
that
it
has
to
go
through
the
technical
review
committee.
I
think
that
can
cover
a
wide
range
of
these
things,
so
you
can
potentially
get
relief
for
up
to
180
days
under
that
section
of
the
code.
P
So
I
think
that
would
and
that's
exactly
what
brighter
days
brewing
they
they
have
they've
gone
to
the
trc
to
get
for
to
get
a
90-day
temporary
use
permit
to
have
a
food
truck,
but
you're
really
associating
with
their
opening.
So
you
know
so
there's
a
finite
end
to
it
and
so
they've
gone
through
that
process.
So
we
have
a
again.
We
have
a
bit
of
a
relief
mechanism
there
for
that.
M
I
I
think
that
was
it.
Those
are
the
things
I
agree
with
everybody,
and
I
agree
with
commissioner
penny
on
the
not
the
third
party
it
may
have
been
vice
mayor
carr.
M
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
the
one
or
two
weekends
out
of
a
month
for
a
food
truck
having
open
access
to
the
special
area
plan.
Also,
I'd
like
to
be
consideration
to
change
the
time
in
56.05
from
10
o'clock
to
8
pm
it's
the
longest
and
then
from
8
o'clock
to
7
a.m,
for
allowing
them
to
be
there
and
then
also
those
little.
What
would
you
call
it?
Those
little
areas,
those
little
green
dots
taken
out
to
confirm
that?
P
No,
no,
they
really
don't.
The
intent
is
not
that
this
thing
you
know,
gets
parked
here
and
becomes
immobile
forever.
In
fact,
I
mean
you,
you
we
wanted
to
have
a
detachable.
You
know
shore
power.
If
you
want
to
use
that
term
connection
so
that
they
have
electric,
but
they
we
also
require
that
they
have
to
be
able
to
maintain
they
have
to
maintain
as
a
functioning
mobile
vehicle
so
case
in
point.
P
D
P
E
But
once
it
becomes
when
once
the
vehicle
is
placed,
there
is
no
time
limit
for
them
to
remove
it.
Correct.
E
We
know
that
was
an
interest
with
the
wine
and
now
brewing
establishments
to
use
the
food
trucks
to
serve
food
in
order
for
them
to
stay
open
during
the
corona
vitas
regulations.
But
this
problem,
I
believe,
has
been
solved
because
now
they're
able
to
get
the
501
license,
so
they
can
actually
open
the
those
wine
establishments.
R
Is
have
gone
to
get
their
509
food
licenses
and
that's
because,
as
commissioner
particularis
was
saying
earlier
previously,
they
were
allowed
to
have
a
relationship
with
the
nearby
restaurant
and
that
worked
out
really
well
and
here
the
menus
there
and
they
were
able
to
open.
But
this
time
that
was
not
allowed,
so
tdpr
was
not
allowing
the
views
of
the
buyers
to
open
unless
they
actually
had
a
509
food
license,
and
then
they
could
resume
in
person
consumption.
So
three
of
our
babies
did
get
those
509
licenses.
R
P
I
think
and
having
spoken
with
karen,
I
think
I
can
summarize
for
her.
So
I
don't
know
if
all
of
the
breweries
have
accomplished
this,
but
I
know
that
some
of
them
have
been
able
to
they
found
another
outlet.
P
If
you
will
they've
been
able
to
get,
you
know
some
type
of
a
food
license
from
the
state,
so
whether
it's
you
know
a
hot
dog
roller
cart
or
something
like
that
they've
been
able
to
to
fill
that
void
in
order
to
be
able
to
allow
to
be
able
to
open
so
that
I
believe,
and
karen
I'll,
let
you
nod
yes
or
no.
Have
all
of
them
been
able
to
do
that
or
just
some
of
them?
Okay,.
P
E
E
Okay
yeah.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear,
because
I
know
commission
verticals
had
an.
B
E
A
I
Mary's
have
a
quick
comment
for
you.
There
wasn't
any
discussion
about
the
beaches
at
all.
I
know
pinellas
county
has
the
rights
of
fred
howard
park
and
city
tarpon
has
sunset,
beach
has
staff,
I
mean
this
doesn't
allow
any
food
trucks
out
of
the
beaches.
Has
staff
evaluated
that
or
is
there
any
discussion
at
pnz
at
all.
P
There
was
no
discussion
at
the
pnz.
I
don't
believe
we
didn't
even
go
down
that
path,
quite
honestly,
that
that
I
know
that
that
has
come
up
and
in
the
past
and
has
been
discussed,
and
there
was
no
at
that
point
in
time.
I
don't
think
there
was
any
consensus
that
the
city
wanted
to
do
that.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
restrictions
in
place,
that
they
can't
do
that
at
least
at
our
proper
our
park.
So
no
we
just
didn't
go
there.
P
I
E
A
F
Yes,
we've
received
a
few.
This
one
is
to
whom
it
may
concern.
My
name
is
irene
manglis.
I
reside
at
1307
mayors
boulevard,
I'm
the
owner
of
melee
greek
street
donuts.
My
business
is
a
mobile
food,
trailer,
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works.
So
please
forgive
me.
I
was
pleased
with
the
new
rules
and
happy
that
it
was
able
to
operate
in
our
small
town
as
of
july
1st
2020..
F
Now
it
comes
to
my
attention
that
the
mobile
units
must
be
on
u.s
highway
19
only.
This
is
very
disappointing.
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
money
on
my
small
business
and
with
coven
19
happening.
All
events
in
our
town
have
been
canceled.
My
business
has
been
welcomed
by
the
sponge
docs
and
our
community.
I
have
an
agreement
and
a
lease
with
a
business
already
in
place.
Prior
to
this
meeting,
my
mobile
unit
will
add
character
and
color
to
our
town
and
I
believe
it
will
attract
tourists.
F
I
do
not
want
to
work
on
us
highway
19..
That
is
not
fair.
I
have
attached
two
photos
for
your
review
that
will
be
in
the
record
and
also
if
any
commissioner
would
like,
I
could
forward
that.
I
believe
the
unit
should
be
able
to
operate
in
the
sponge
docs
or
downtown
only
if
the
unit
has
support
from
the
businesses
in
the
area
a
lease
or
written
agreement,
as
it
was
stated
in
the
city's
prior
notice.
This
will
prevent
random
food
units
coming
and
parking
wherever
they
please.
F
I
do
not
believe
they
should
be
banned
as
a
whole,
but
with
restrictions.
My
next
concern
are
the
hours
of
operation
most
of
our
restaurants
in
town
close
around
10
pm.
Our
other
options
are
fast
food.
The
units
should
have
option
to
operate
until
2
a.m.
The
city
is
planning
on
mobile
food
units
to
operate
from
8
am
to
10
pm.
The
local
bars
are
open
until
2
am,
since
most
of
the
restaurants
in
town
are
closed.
At
10
pm,
there
should
be
more
options
other
than
fast
food.
This
too
will
help
small
businesses.
F
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Irene,
mangliss,
maylie
greek
street
donuts,
the
next
one
as
members
of
the
tarpon
springs,
merchants
board.
We
have
spoken
to
several
interested
tarpon
springs,
retail
food
and
drink
owners
to
determine
their
options
about
the
new
proposals
that
we
will
be
that
will
be
discussed
tonight
at
the
boc
meeting.
We
understand
the
pnz
has
approved
number
one
to
allow
mobile
trucks
to
operate,
but
outside
the
downtown
and
cra
and
sponge
docs.
We
are
hoping
that
the
boc
members
will
accept
this
recommendation.
F
We
are
asking
the
board
to
consider
accepting
the
second
proposal.
We
have
spoken
to
many
of
our
merchants.
We
are
hearing
that
the
majority
of
our
food,
drink
and
retail
store
owners
are
in
favor
of
a
food
and
beverage
truck
or
cart
on
their
own
property,
and
this
would
be
a
feature
that
would
promote
their
business.
We
also
agree
with
the
business
owners
that
they
should
not
be
required
to
pay
an
additional
fee
to
have
this
venue
on
their
own
property,
whether
it
is
an
extension.
F
We
do
understand
that
this
should
only
be
approved
with
proper
food
and
beverage
license
examples
of
our
many
business
owners
who
support
this
proposal
and
would
benefit
from
adding
a
feature
outside
to
promote
businesses
along
alt
19
include
tarpon,
home
and
garden
garden
and
the
relics,
bohemian
gypsy
and
tarpon
springs
distillery.
Most
examples
include
brighter
day
brewery
on
stafford
two
frogs
downtown
with
a
large
backyard
and
silver
king
on
lemon
street,
to
name
only
a
few
also.
We
are
asking
the
board
to
also
consider
a
fruit
and
beverage
cart.
F
That
would
be
a
smaller
venue
that
would
allow
a
business
just
like
five
branches
brewery
in
the
sponge
stocks
to
promote
their
business
by
having
a
special
for
the
weekend
or
tacos
to
go
with
your
beer.
As
an
example,
there
are
many
retail
stores,
restaurants,
breweries
and
bars.
That
would
benefit
by
giving
their
customers
more
reason
to
visit
and
enjoy
tarpon
springs.
We
are
hoping
that
our
mayor
city
manager
and
city
commission
will
look
at
this
as
an
opportunity
to
give
the
business
owners
a
venue
to
create
something
interesting
exciting
for
their
establishments.
F
That
will
help
them
stay
open.
An
outside
venue
allows
the
opportunity
to
be
creative
and
try
new
resources
that
will
allow
our
retail
restaurants,
breweries
bars
to
add
features
that
will
be
different
and
interesting
that
can
bring
more
visitors
in
this
tough
shopping
environment.
This
is
not
only
a
fair
and
reasonable
thing
to
do
for
our
business
community,
but
is
needed
for
tarpon
springs,
especially
now
to
thrive
and
survive.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
F
Tarpon
springs
merchants
association,
the
next
one.
I
am
writing
to
you
with
concern
about
the
proposal
to
limit
food
trucks
in
downtown
and
the
sponge
docks
area
of
tarpon
springs.
As
of
july
1st,
I
understand
that
it
could
be
allowed
to
have
food
trucks
and
tarpon
springs
and
began.
My
business
plan
to
enhance
bohemian
gypsy
at
740
north
pinellas
avenue
tarpon
springs
with
a
food
truck
or
cart
and
then
really
give
desperately
needed
facelift
to
the
property
that
I
am
renting
there.
F
F
F
Food
trucks
done
correctly
in
our
downtown
and
sponge
docks
can
only
enhance
the
charm
of
tarpon
springs,
the
more
food
and
shopping
that
we
have
in
the
area.
The
more
people
will
be
attracting
to
the
area
and
everyone
will
win.
These
changes
will
encourage,
encourage
visitors
from
the
past
to
come
out
and
visit
again,
as
we
are
an
ever
involving
community
community
with
always
something
new
to
see.
In
closing,
I
would
like
to
state
the
obvious.
The
restrictions
on
events
throughout
the
state
have
been
hard
on
the
food
truck
industry.
F
Besides
helping
our
community
grow,
we
are
helping
an
overall
economy
by
adding
revenue
to
those
that
would
otherwise
be
seeking
unemployment
benefits.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
my
concerns:
respectfully
ginger
alum,
magettas,
bohemian
gardens,
tarpon
home
and
garden
and
tarpon
and
the
relic
and
the
last
one
to
whom
it
may
concern.
I
am
opposed
to
the
restriction
of
food
truck
locations.
F
This
is
not
a
safety
concern
of
coba.
This
is
a
greek
mafia
shakedown.
We
as
citizens
are
tired
of
the
five
business
owners.
Controlling
everything
in
the
city.
Tarpon
can
be
thriving,
like
other
coastal
towns
like
dunedin,
but
it
is
a
constant
battle
for
the
new
business
to
come
to
the
area.
Instead,
we
have
restraint
locations
that
open
for
six
months
and
close
every
store
on
the
dock
sells
the
same
stuff.
If
they're,
if
they
are
restricted,
they
will
just
go
to
other
cities
that
welcome
them,
creating
economic
business
for
other
cities.
F
E
You,
mr
jeff,
do
we
have
anyone
that
I
wish
to
speak.
S
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
you
guys
didn't
say
whose
name
first,
so
I
wasn't
sure
who
it
was.
My
name
is
anthony.
Cerukus,
1055,
north
pinellas
avenue
tarpon
springs
florida.
All
I'm
asking
for
is
like
respectfully
deferring
this
just
so
that
we
can
have
some
workshops
around
it.
S
I
posted
something
on
facebook
about
it
this
afternoon,
only
a
couple
of
hours
before
this
meeting
and
between
my
personal
facebook
page
and
what
I
shared
on
the
tarpon
community
page
there's
over
100
comments
supporting
having
food
trucks
or
being
more
open
to
the
conversation,
at
least.
So
I
mean
if
at
least
until
you
know
we're
having
actual
public
meetings
and
people
are
back
at
city
hall.
Can
we
at
least
defer
that
we
make
a
decision
on
a
city
ordinance
until
that
time?
I
don't
think
that
that's
an
unreasonable
request.
S
Also
a
misconception
is
that
these
food
trucks
are
cheap
and
they're.
Not
the
average
cost
is
between
26
and
120
000
and
they're,
saying
that,
or
generally
speaking
through
these
groups
that
I've
been
participating
in
the
startup
costs
for
the
first
year
out
of
pocket
are
around
105
000
and
I
know
that
places
have
opened
in
tarpon.
You
know
with
30
or
40
grand
and
open
and
closed
doors.
You
know
rather
quickly,
so
I
mean
capital
capital
improvements.
S
You
know
are
using
commissioner
carr's
example
of
backdrafts
being
a
food
truck
first
and
then
becoming
a
restaurant,
a
great
restaurant
for
our
city.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
that
example
is,
you
know,
awesome,
bayou
bistro
is
you
know
one
of
our
greatest?
You
know
new
additions
to
the
whole
city,
so
I
mean
like
I
wish
that
people
be
a
little
more
like
a
little
more
open
to
it.
Also
for
the
the
cra.
S
If
these
ordinances
become
or
if
y'all,
if
y'all,
if
y'all,
if
these
ordinances
end
up
being
voted
on
and
and
it
and
it
eliminates
my
option
for
this,
I
mean
that's
unfortunate,
because
it's
a
huge
undeveloped
property
waterfront,
I'm
trying
to
get
tarp
and
tom
to
come
there
and
do
kayak
rentals.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
do
something.
That's
going
to
be
good
in
that
corridor,
because
all
19,
you
know
it's
really
not
the
prettiest,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
up
a
whole
lot
of
time.
S
I
would
just
say:
hey:
can
we
do
some
workshops
around
this
at
least
and
talk
about
it?
Because
really,
I
think
that
people
do
have
a
need
for
this
in
tarpon,
or
it
just
seems
like
maybe
opinions
about
it-
have
shifted,
especially
during
this
whole
clothing
scenario.
But
I
guess
that's
it.
Thank
you
all
and
it's
you
know
great
to
see
all
y'all
and
stay
safe.
E
T
Hi
everybody,
my
name,
is
jerry
brown.
I
spoke
to
you
a
couple
months
back
on
this
very
issue.
I
had
the
opportunity
right
after
that
meeting
to
meet
with
commissioner
vadkiotis
and
renee
vinson
at
my
business
five
branches
brewing
on
the
sponge
docks.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
a
couple
issues
since
everything:
that's
happened
with
covid
we've
been
closed
because
we
didn't
have
food
open
because
we
hadn't
food
arrangement
closed
because
we
didn't
own
the
food
arrangement
now
we're
a
hot
dog
restaurant.
T
So
this
is
how
things
have
flowed
for
us
after
we
have
put
an
investment
in
in
the
sponge
docks.
We
believe
in
that
area.
You
can
see
the
sponge
diver
on
the
wall
when
we
walk
in,
but
I
want
you
guys
to
remember
that
the
restaurants
are
not
the
only
business
on
the
sponge
docks
and,
unfortunately,
what
it
sounds
like
we're
doing
is
we're
treating
tourism
as
a
finite
resource.
T
Now
I
understand
the
restrictions-
and
I
spoke
with
commissioner
vaticiotis
and
renee
vincent
and
but
I
did
want
to
mention
that
you
know
we
are
being
forced
into
this
issue
and
it's
not
by
you
guys
it's
by
the
state,
but
we
want
to
have
the
option
to
operate
on
a
fair
business
playing
field.
Just
like
anything
else-
and
you
know
when
you
go
to
a
a
lot
of
folks
that
go
to
a
brewery-
go
not
only
for
the
beer,
but
they
go
for
the
beer
and
the
food
pairing.
T
T
Let
the
consumer
make
the
choice
for
themselves:
don't
make
it
for
them
overall,
you're
consistent,
your
constituents
are
overly,
are
genuinely
positive
on
the
idea
of
having
food
trucks
down.
There
have
the
restrictions
that
we
keep
them
on
our
property.
The
decibel
level
of
the
generators
is
low
enough
to
that
they
don't
cause.
Any
complaints
have
some
sort
of
restriction
in
the
policy
to
do
that,
but
don't
make
us
become
restauranteurs
because
we
don't
want
to
be
that
and
but
allow
our
allow
your
constituents
to
have
that
choice.
Q
Tommy
frain
1671
autumnwood
street
tarpon
springs
florida.
Three,
four,
six,
eight,
nine
I'll,
be
pretty
brief.
I
you
know,
I
do
believe
you
know
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
regulations
in
place
about
you
know
the
type
of
structures
that
are
allowed.
Q
Maybe
you
know
some
regulations
about
the
you
know
the
size
of
the
parking
lot
size
of
the
the
parcels
required,
but
I
do
think
the
proposal
of
just
restricting
to
the
highway
business
and
industrial
looks
overly
restrictive,
particularly
in
this
economy,
but
I
think
this
is
a
mistake
that
communities
make
often
in
trying
to
defend
some
other
businesses,
not
not
really
seeing
the
benefit
of
welcoming
you
know
a
diverse
business
set
into
the
community
that
you
know
grows
the
popularity
of
the
community
overall,
so
you
know
everybody
wins.
Q
You
know
all
the
lists,
all
boats,
if
you
will
so
you
know,
I
do
think
you
guys
need
to
just
take
a
look
at
that
and
open
it
up.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
comments
already
have
reflected
that
I
do
want
to
point
out
if
anybody
has
been
here.
Austin
texas
is
a
you
know.
Obviously,
a
bigger
city,
but
even
in
the
outskirts
of
austin.
Q
You
know
that
community
has
really
successfully
integrated
food
trucks
and
other
businesses
into
their
community,
and
it's
obviously,
you
know
grown
in
popularity
as
that
community
has
grown
again,
obviously
larger,
but
I
think
we
can
look
at
to
communities
like
that
that
are
looking
at
new
ideas
for
economic
development.
So
thanks
so
much.
A
U
I'm
actually
the
owner
of
soulburger,
we
just
opened
at
ryder
days
brewery
and
we
had
a
great
response.
First,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
community.
This
has
been
a
really
awesome
experience
for
us
kind
of
turned
lemons
into
lemonade.
U
U
The
second
thing
is,
I
believe
mr
vada
kiotis,
you
mentioned
about
a
grease
trap
in
order
to
get
your
mfdv
license,
you
do
have
to
have
a
city
connected
water
source,
as
well
as
a
signed
document
that
says
where
you
will
be
dumping,
your
gray
water.
So,
in
order
to
get
your
license,
that
is
already
taken
care
of,
and
so
the
next
the
next
thing
is.
U
I
believe
that
the
big,
the
biggest
thing
that
I
want
to
mention
is
that
we
believe,
as
locals
in
this
community,
that
we
can
start
a
food
truck
and
still
continue
to
have
that
charm
that
has
lured
my
family
here
that
has
brought
us
here
and
has
even
after
a
tumultuous
time
of
losing.
My
job
has
wanted
us
to
stay
here
and
so,
for
instance,
the
concept
behind
my
truck
is
is
local,
so
we
went
to
several
bakeries
and
we
found
a
local
bakery
for
our
bread.
U
We
have
florida
sourced
meat,
we're
working
with
a
local
produce
vendor.
That
is
a
local
that
is
a
local
tarpon
springs
produce
vendor,
so
that
the
idea
is,
when
you
buy
a
burger
for
me
that
the
dollars
don't
just
go
to
filling
somebody
else's
yacht,
they
come
to
tarpon
springs
and
they
stay
here.
So
that's
really.
The
biggest
thing
that
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
think
that
we
can
have
food
trucks
here
within
those
restrictions.
U
I
think
the
50
amp
plug,
or
the
30
amp
plug
or
whatever
you
need
for
your
vehicle
is
a
good
option
because
it
says
that
you're
not
you're,
not
just
coming
in
here
from
tampa
or
st
pete
or
wherever.
So
I
do
think
that's
a
good
option.
U
E
Ms
lemmons,
I
don't
know
if
you
I
I
don't
know
if
you
are
video
conferencing
is
working
or
not,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
you
a
question
how
many
restaurants
do
we
have
in
tarpon
springs?
Do
you
know.
F
N
E
We
have
50
restaurants
and
how
many
brewings
do
we
have
in
harper?
We
have.
D
E
We
have
six,
so
we
have
50
restaurants
that
actually
invested
quite
a
bit
of
money
to
and
go
through
many
regulations
to
operate
the
restaurants
and
the
breweries
they
open
as
bruins,
not
as
wrestlers
seems
like
the
5606
is
still
common
day.
Just
the
brewing
restaurants
were
not
the
restaurants
themselves,
I'm
not
convinced
the
50.
5606
is
the
right
thing
to
have
in
tarpon
springs.
E
But
I
do
support
the
55
5605
and
I'm
not
you
know,
I'm
flexible
in
regards
to
the
time
what
time
they're
going
to
how
how
late
they're
going
to
stay
open
or
how
early
they're
going
to
open.
E
I'm
not
worried
about
that
and
to
have
one
truck
for.
E
A
lot
I
I
think,
it's
fine,
but
again
with
the
5605
on
the
highway
and
on
the
industrial
area.
I
support
that
with
the
5606.
I'm
not
vice
mayor
carr,.
I
So
looking
at
the
5605,
somebody
brought
up
the
idea
of
allowing
the
operating
times
to
start
at
7am.
I
would
support
that.
I
don't
support
restricting
the
cut
off
time
to
be
8
pm.
I
think
10
pm
is
a
good,
a
good
proposal.
I
If
there's
a
need
further
or
someone
sees
the
ability
that
they
need
something
further.
I
think
there
could
be
some
discussions
further
on,
but
I
think
that's
a
good
starting
point.
I
So
with
5606,
I
think
commissioner,
taylor
panty
brought
up
just
to
remove
the
ability
of
a
third
party
with
the
businesses.
I
think
that's
a
a
good
way
if
I'm
saying
that
correctly.
That
would
be
that
the
specific
business
alone.
So
if
it's
xyz
restaurant
that
wants
to
have
a
smoker
in
the
back
to
use
for
their
business
that
they
would
be
able
to
have
a
smoker.
I
I
myself,
I
would
like
to
see
the
breweries
excluded
from
the
list,
so
they
would
have
an
option
to
bring
in
a
third
party
on
the
weekends
of
some
sort.
I
think
that's
something
that's
beneficial
to
the
breweries
that
I've
seen
in
other
cities
and
other
towns
based
on
visiting
breweries.
I
I
don't
drink
at
all,
but
I
do
like
to
go
hang
out
and
socialize
and
for
me
it
gives
me
the
ability
to
grab
something
to
eat
or
a
soft
drink
of
some
sort
and
still
socialize
with
the
my
friends
or
family
in
those
areas.
So
with
this
56.06,
I
would
support
what
mr
terry
apparently
said
about
about
that
with
just
excluding
it
or
with
just
the
ability.
I
For
I'm
sorry,
let
me
say
this
again:
removing
the
ability
of
a
third
party
and
allowing
the
current
business
to
have
some
type
of
accessory
food
truck
or
drink
establishment,
but
excluding
the
breweries
allowing
the
breweries
to
have
a
a
third
party
there.
Okay,
ms
vincent.
P
M
Mayor
just
as
a
courtesy
vice
player
car
I'd,
like
a
little
more
explanation
of
the
third
party,
my
I
think
my
definition
was
a
little
different
than
what
he's
talking
about.
Maybe
I
don't
I'm
not
really
sure.
I
So
it
would
be,
for
instance,
if
you
had
a
barbecue
restaurant
in
downtown,
you
needed
a
spot
to
put
your
smoker
in
the
back.
You
would
have
the
ability
to
do
that
in
56.06.
I
If
you
wanted
to
bring
in
an
ice
cream
shop
to
your
barbecue
restaurant
and
have
an
ice
cream
trailer
as
part
of
your
business,
you
can't
do
that
because
that
would
be
banned.
That
would
be
a
third
party
unless
you
owned
it.
Unless,
okay,
unless
you
owned
it,
that's
correct
because
it
could
be
a,
it
could
be
part
of
an
accessory
to
your
business,
of
having
a
dessert
truck
in
the
front
of
your
business,
but.
M
No,
I'm
sorry,
I
was
going
to
ask
not
contracting
with
them,
or
my
whole
thing
on
the
third
party
was
so
that
they're
not
actually
selling
out
of
that
truck
to
people
that
aren't
going
to
be
using,
let's
say,
for
example,
the
the
business
that
they're
associated
with
that's
what
I
meant
by
third
party.
M
In
other
words,
under
the
guise
of
this
ordinance,
they
come
in
park
at
the
restaurant
half
the
people
buy
food,
go
into
the
into
the
location
that
allowed
them
to
park
on
their
property
and
then
the
other
half
that
buy
food,
just
walk
down
the
street,
and
things
like
that.
That
was
my
idea
of
third
party.
What
I
meant
was
that
that
food
truck
or
whatever
food
trailer,
would
be
specific
to
the
business
that
brought
them
in
either
contractually
or
leasing
it.
M
I
So
my
standpoint,
I
don't
care
if
someone
sits
on
the
property
or
if
they
walk
off
the
property
and
eats
while
they
walk
down
the
street,
but
from
a
third
party
standpoint,
it's
not
the
owner
of
the
business
that
that
would
be
working
or
serving
food
out
of
that
piece
of
property.
That
was
my
understanding
of
a
third
party.
P
The
way
yes,
the
way
we
drafted
it,
it
was
that
we
would
allow
you
know
a
a
restaurant
or
or
a
brewery
whomever
to
to
have
a
contract
with
you
know
a
completely
unrelated
food
vendor,
you
know
to
say
you
could
come
in
and
set
up
on
my
property
and
we'll
provide.
You
know,
facilities
for
seating
and
bathrooms
and
stuff,
but
but
at
no
point
can
we
require
that
people
eat
there.
I
mean
that
would
be
like
really
difficult
to
try
to
enforce.
P
I
don't
know
I'll
have
to
defer
to
commissioner
terrapin
if
that's
correct,
so
it
is
a
there's,
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
distinction
between
what
the
three
of
you,
I
think
are
talking
about.
I
So,
on
my
end,
I
would
be,
I
would
be
able
to
support
56.06
with
the
removal
of
the
of
the
third
parties
being
allowed
on
the
property,
excluding
the
breweries
I'll,
be
fine
with
the
breweries
having
a
third
party
business
on
the
property
myself
and
again,
10
pm
is
fine.
7Am,
I
think,
is
good.
I
I
think
from
a
demographic
standpoint,
the
younger
generation
is
going
to
be
out
later
eating
later
and
that's
one
of
the
struggles
in
the
past
of
finding
a
place
to
eat.
That's
open,
past
nine
o'clock
at
times
that
I
run
into
so.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
yeah
I
mean
just
just
to
kind
of
highlight
my
points.
We
already
have
an
accessory
use
option
in
place
in
article
2
of
the
land
development
code,
and-
let
me
just
you
know,
highlight
that
it
has
really
nothing
to
do
with
food
trucks
or
breweries
versus
restaurants.
It's
an
accessory
used
to
your
business.
K
So
I
don't
think
that
you
know
I.
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
label
the
breweries
one
thing
and
the
restaurants,
one
thing
when
the
intent
of
the
accessories
has
nothing
to
do
with
them.
To
begin
with
right,
it
has
to
do
with
I'm
operating
my
business,
there's
an
opportunity
for
me
to
make
more
money
or
to
better
my
business
or
there's
something
that
I
need
for
that
purpose
and
I'm
going
to
gain
it
via
the
accessory
use.
K
So
the
biggest
distinction
of
5606,
aside
from
the
accessory
use,
is
the
third
party
which
I
think
should
be
removed,
which
was
what
we're
talking
about
and
vice
mayor
to
your
point
regarding
the
breweries.
I
see
value
in
that
as
well,
but
I
would
ask
you
miss
vincent:
could
we
not
just
apply?
Could
a
brewery
if
they
wanted
to
have
a
third
party
vendor
on
site
still
has
to
be
on
site,
can't
be
on
the
street
if
they
wanted
to
have
that
person
to
their
brewery
for
a
weekend,
they
would
apply
for
a
special
event.
K
K
Right,
so
if
you
did
that,
and
I'm
not
saying
I
mean
we're
just
talking
about
what
you
could
do
right
vice
mayor,
if
you
did
that
you
know,
you
got
to
jump
through
the
hoops,
but
I
mean
you
do
that
a
couple
times
a
year
and
you're
good
to
go
so
that's
kind
of
my
thinking,
I'm
good
with
5605
and
I'm
good
with
5606,
given
that
we're
going
to
remove
the
third
party
and
basically
we're
just
adding
more
layers
of
requirements
onto
an
accessory
use
aspect
of
the
code
that
already
exists
today.
Thank
you.
E
Commission
terrapin,
would
you
tell
us
about
the
the
time
of
operation?
What
do
you.
K
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
good
with
earlier
I
mean,
but
I
I
think
what's
more
pertinent
to
the
discussion
is
the
later
hour
so
and.
Q
K
Value
and
being
opening
being
open
later,
you
know,
I
see
where
miss
manglis
is
coming
from
as
far
as
being
open.
You
know
for
to
service
the
bars
and
stuff
like
that
until
2
a.m,
but
I
don't
think
that
I
would
go
with
that,
but
I
would
stay
at
10
p.m
and
I'm
okay
with
opening
seven.
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
try
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible.
As
far
as
the
time
goes,
I'm
happy
to
extend
the
time
you
know
from,
I
think
originally
8
a.m
to
7
a.m,
and
I'm
also
in
support
of
it
going
up
to
10
p.m
or
even
later,
but
definitely
not
8pm.
I
feel
like
one
of
the
inherent
advantages
of
those
food
trucks
is
being
able
to
be
open
late,
so
at
least
10
p.m.
L
For
for
the
hours,
I
know
I'm
going
to
be
in
the
minority
here,
but
I'm
in
support
of
5605
and
5606,
including
the
third
party
vendors,
but
I
I
mean
obviously
there's
gonna
have
to
be
some
compromise.
There,
we've
already
heard
from
some
members
of
the
board
that
aren't
gonna
want
that,
but
that's
my
stance
on
it.
M
M
I
you
know,
I'm
glad
you
younger
guys
are
allowing
an
older
guy
to
get
to
7
a.m
and
I'll.
Not
I
don't.
I
don't
stay
up
that
late
till
10,
so
10
o'clock
is
on
is
okay
with
me,
since
you
evidently
know
better.
M
So
in
that
regard
the
the
the
distinction
now
the
5606
I
I
know
the
accessory
and
everything
the
provisions
that
I
was
talking
about
was
in
the
5606
was
the
the
the
four
provisions,
the
city
services,
the
water
and
sewer
the
compliance
with
the
the
fog
management
program,
which
is
the
which
is
the
fats
well
in
greece.
I
don't
know
that
that
absolutely
requires.
M
I
know
it
requires
a
grease
trap,
but
I
I
don't
know
beyond
that,
what
the
what
the
rule
is,
but
evidently
our
staff
put
that
in
there
for
a
good
reason
and
then
getting
back
to
the
evacuation
and
mitigation
plan,
because
the
sponge
ox
is
a
low-lying
area.
I
don't
think
you'd
want
these
expensive
trucks
hanging
around
if
there's
going
to
be
the
threat
of
flooding
and,
of
course,
the
connection
to
shore
power,
30
or
50
amp,
I
think,
is
important.
M
What
whether
the
5606
gets
passed
or
not
tonight,
this
the
accessory
use
provision,
the
land
section
to
the
land
development
code
is
still
applicable.
Is
that
correct
ms
vincent.
M
Okay,
and
also
as
far
as
a
third
party,
with
a
as
as
I
understand
it,
I
mean
the
way.
I'm
I'm
hearing
the
commissioners
talk,
and
maybe
they
understand
a
little
better
than
I
do.
Maybe,
but
the
if
you
have
a
food
truck
there
and
it's
owned
by
the
or
leased
by
the,
not
third
party,
but
least,
are
owned
by
the
restaurant
business
owner.
M
P
M
P
He
could
probably
he
could
probably
do
a
temporary
use
permit
for
for
that.
You
know,
if
he's
doing
it
on
a
limited
basis,
so
yeah-
and
I
know,
there's
nothing
in
the
code
that
says
that
once
a
temporary
use
expires,
you
can't
apply
for
another
one.
It
does
say
that
you
can
give
another
90-day
extension
to
an
existing
one,
but
the
code's
really
silent
to
how
many
times
a
year
can
you
apply?
So,
yes,
I
think
we
could
probably
address
that
as
long
as
you
know,
they
don't
get.
M
P
I
would
say
that
it
what
what
5606
would
do
if
it
goes
as
the
way
it's
drafted
and
you
allow
the
third
party
it
allows
them
to
go
through
the
to
to
the
technical
review
committee
once
it's
one
application
and
then
they
can
operate
under
that.
So
they
don't
have
to
come
back
reapply
for
a
hundred
dollar
temporary
use
permit
and
go
through
it
over
and
over
again,
but
yeah.
M
Right,
that's
what
I
was
getting
at.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
it's!
It's
looking
at
a
little
differently
than
you
do
by
excluding
by
by
allowing
breweries,
and
I
would
hope
we
would
do
wineries
and
distilleries
all
without
an
exception
so
that
they
could
have
third
party.
M
It
just
helps
them
because
technically
they
could
do
it
anyway,
through
the
temporary
use,
permit
we're
just
leaving
the
hassle
of
them
going
through
that
exactly
right.
So,
okay,
so
from
a
government
perspective,
I
always
feel
good
about
removing
roadblocks
and
being
allowed
to
do
that
with
them,
because
they
can
do
it
anyway.
Just
is
a
little
harder
way
of
doing
it
right
and
and
and
also
again,
for
the
mayor's
benefit.
M
P
M
M
I
don't
know
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
and
the
other
things
the
grease
trap
program
is
something
that
I
know
that's
what
bio
bistro
had
to
go
through
to
get
more
operation
going,
so
everybody
went
through
there.
I
think
the
business
of
being
operable
is.
There
was
a
big
issue
of
not
putting
these
food
trucks
on
blocks
and
putting
weapons
around
them
like
they're,
a
stand-alone
business
of
everybody.
M
Historically-
and
you
know,
I
think
the
city
manager's
still
there
somewhere,
we've
had
an
abuse
of
these
sort
of
temporary
food
trucks
and
things
in
the
past
that
the
sponge
docks
on
some
of
these
vacant
parcels
when
they
were
just.
You
know,
parking
lots
and
things
like
that
when
they
were
out
now
allowed
or
is
the
the
code
was
silent
on
them
and
there
was
all
kinds
of
problems
in
trying
to
sort
that
through.
M
So
to
summarize,
I'm
okay
with
seven,
I'm
okay
with
ten
and
I'm
okay
with
5606,
with
excluding
the
third
party
and
yeah,
but
allowing
an
exception
for
breweries,
wineries
and
distilleries.
M
Again,
that's
allowed
anyway
yeah.
It
could
be
done
anyway.
We
just
removed
the
the
inconvenience
by
doing
this
5600
all
right.
Thank
you.
M
Okay,
let
me
try
it
and
commissioners
correct
me
if
I
miss
anything
so
move
to
prove
ordinance.
Let's
see
if
I
got
that
2020-22
2020
20-22
with
the
following
conditions,
that
for
56.05
we
changed
the
hours
of
operation
from
from
eight
in
the
morning
to
seven
a.m
and
from
and
allow
10
p.m
to
to
remain,
and
then
for
56.06
to
to
allow
56
to
go
forward
except
removing
third-party
ability,
but
allowing
exceptions
for
wineries,
breweries
and
distilleries.
M
K
I
E
U
C
Yes,
mayor
resolution
20,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
terpene
springs
florida
authorizing
changes
in
the
organization
of
the
code
enforcement
division
of
the
police
department
and
the
city
clerk
and
collector
department,
including
the
reactivation
of
a
position
revising
a
salary
range
in
regard
and
regrading
of
a
position
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Here
up.
That
was
the
reading
of
resolution,
20
20-56
by
title
online.
C
E
H
Yes,
I
I
provided
a
little
bit
of
a
summary
to
the
backup
we
were
able
to
do
some
things
for
the
lower
salaried
employees.
Again,
like
we've
done,
probably
for
the
last
three
or
four
years
it
affected.
46
people
and
those
people
were
under
fifteen
dollars
and
twelve
cents
an
hour.
H
We
were
all
so
able
to
include,
as
we've
said
in
the
letter
on
the
changes
you
made
for
the
cleric
and
deputy
clerk's
position,
we
were
able
to
do
as
we've
done
in
fast
years
the
lump
sum
of
payment,
and,
if
you
see
my
summary
on
the
second
page,
we
did
come
about
000,
I
believe,
under
what
we
had
budgeted
for
there,
which
again,
as
I
said,
that,
along
with
the
money
we
saved
from
the
property
thing,
was
able
to
to
fund
the
positions.
H
E
E
Also,
I
wanted
to
remind
you,
mr
the
curse
that
in
couple
months,
you're
going
to
bring
us
the
salary
survey
for
all
the
positions.
That's.
H
E
Our
employees,
directors
and
charter
employees
to
make
sure
that
we
are
compatible
to
the
other
cities.
E
With
that,
I
will
go
to
vice
versa.
Car.
I
Thanks
mayor
no
comments,
I
support
what
the
mayor
said
looking
forward
also
to
seeing
this
seti
come
back.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commission,
tara,
panning,
saying
there
no
for
the
comments
you
commissioned
donovan,
no
comments
for
me
now
mission
that
you're
curious.
E
Thank
you.
We're
going
to
the
public
comments,
miss
jacobs,
any
emails.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you.
The.
B
A
K
E
C
Mayor
commissioner
of
religion,
2020-58,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
ratifying
executive
order,
2020-28
and
extending
the
declaration
of
local
state
of
emergency
to
september
1,
2020
and
executive
order,
2020-29
and
extending
the
declaration
of
local
state
of
emergency
to
september
8,
2020
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
hero.
That
was
a
reading
resolution
2020-58
by
title.
A
H
C
E
H
Yes,
I
want
to
announce
three
dates.
As
you
know,
we've
got
a
group
of
meetings
that
we
are
trying
to
line
up
and
have
in
the
future.
Thank
you
for
sending
me
your
times.
You
would
be
gone
to
help
me.
I've
got
those
first.
Three
dates
set,
make
sure
they're
for
your
approval.
H
Town
hall,
I
mean
our
town
hall
meeting
a
special
session
where
we
hear
the
concerns
and
talk
about
the
sponge
docs
that
we've,
you
know
postponed
with,
covers
and
stuff.
So
those
are
three
dates,
I'll
send
them
to
you
tomorrow
morning
in
writing.
But
those
are
three
of
the
dates
of
the
things
we've
got
lined
up.
I'd
also
know:
there's
a
couple
more
meetings.
We
need
to
try
to
set
and
I'll
be
looking
for
for
dates
that
you
know
meet
all
of
our
schedules
at
a
later
time.
H
But
I
wanted
to
get
those
three
out
there
to
everybody
for
your
approval.
E
L
E
Okay,
we
now
go
to
board
comments.
Vice
mayor,
carr,.
I
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
mark,
do
we
have
anything
planned.
We
have
a
budget
public
meeting
on
the
15th
a
week
from
today.
Is
there
anything
planned
that
same
day
at
all?
I
Okay,
all
right,
okay.
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
just
thank
the
police
chief
and
his
staff.
He
sent
a
memo
out
earlier
last
week.
I
think
it
was
about
some
individuals
that
were
doing
some
graffiti
acts
throughout
tarpon
springs,
officer,
boone
and
then
I
forget,
the
sergeant
involved
has
did
a
great
job
tracking
these
individuals
down
and
cleaning
up
the
graffiti
in
our
town.
I
I
I
Other
than
that,
I
hope
you
all
have
a
great
rest
your
week
and
looking
forward
to
next
week.
Thank.
L
Yes
mayor,
I
got
one
comment:
tarpon
springs
high
school
football
is
back
this
thursday
at
7
p.m.
We
got
a
home
game
against
boca
siega.
So
if
you
can
make
it,
I
think
tickets
are
still
on
sale
online.
You
might
have
to
buy
one
from
the
boca
siega
side,
but
they
should
still
be
up
there,
but
other
than
that,
I
got
no
comments.
M
Yeah
same
angela
chorus
that
the
sponge
docs
town
hall,
meeting
that
you
mentioned
we're
gonna,
do
that.
Is
that
correct
with
that
new
approach
that
maybe
you
were
discussing
or
describing
that
the
it
director
was
thinking
about.
M
Right,
right,
okay,
and
and
and
with
that,
I
hope
we
disseminate
that
information
a
lot
enough
ahead
of
time.
So
people
know
how
to
use
the
zoom.
I
know
that's
always
a
challenge
for
somebody
who
doesn't
normally
watch
these
sort
of
things
and
but
it's
important
to
them.
They
want
to
interact
with
it
and
that
could
be
problematic
and
and
we'll
have
to
figure
that
out.
If
we
start
getting
some
rumblings.
M
Maybe
I
I
don't
know
how
we'd
do
that,
but
somewhere
along
the
line,
I
know
residents
are
on
their
own
and
they
have
to
come
up
with
their
own
way
of
getting
into
the
meetings.
But
I'd
hate
to
exclude
anybody
because
they're
just
not
technically
savvy
with
zoom
or
something
like
that.
But
we'll
we'll
talk
about
that.
D
M
The
other
thing
that
I
had
was
I
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
sponge
docs
gateway
survey
and
how
we're
disseminating
that
I
I've
gotten
a
little
bit
of
information
that
it's
posted
online
somewhere
in
a
couple
of
spots.
I
guess
and
then
also
for
those
who
may
not
be
able
to
get
online,
especially
business
owners
down
at
the
sponge
docs
and,
I
hope
property
owners.
I
just
don't
know
the
the
detail
on
that
part.
We're
sending
them
postcards
to.
M
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
that
people
aren't
going
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
anybody
to
give
them
their
thoughts
on
the
sponge,
docs
gateway,
sign.
H
It
was
my
understanding
we
were
also
going
to
use
our
great
resource
down
there,
mick
to
go
to
every
business
down
there
and
hand
that
hand
that
out
to
them
for
the
availability,
if
you
do
I'll
check
and
make
sure
that's
still
set,
but
that
was
that
was
the
other
additional
thing.
Besides
those
things
that
nick
just
to
make
copies
and
and
go
to
just
drop
them
off
during
the
course
of
his
duties,
which
he
does
very
quickly
he's
done.
Other
things
to
drop
those
to
every
business.
On
on
the
docks.
M
E
Thank
you.
Well,
this
friday
is
september.
11Th
is
the
patriot
day
and
the
national
day
of
service
and
remembrance,
and
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
recognize
and
pay
tribute
to
the
individuals
lost
in
injury
in
that
attack.
Our
first
respondents
and
all
the
military
personnel
who
are
defending
our
freedom
september
lever
is
a
day
that
we
always
remember,
and
I'm
sure
every
one
of
us
remember
that
particular
day
what
we're
doing
and
how
we
actually
got
that
information
today
that
it's
it's
a
sad
day
and
we're
always
going
to
remember.