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B
A
B
A
D
Let
us
pray
gracious
father,
we
praise
you
and
we
thank
you,
because
you
are
good
and
loving
god.
We
thank
you
for
your
blessing
upon
this
city
of
tubman
springs.
We
thank
you
for
those
people
who
are
here
who
are
willing
to
serve
to
make
this
make
lives
better
for
those
who
live
here.
We
thank
you
for
them,
giving
their
talent
their
time
their
ability
their
strength
to
serve
you
and
through
serving
this
community.
D
A
We
will
continue
the
meeting
where
we
left
off
and
also
I'd
like
to
remind
to
everyone
that,
based
on
the
city,
rules
and
procedures,
all
public
comments
must
be
directed
only
to
the
chair
of
the
meeting
in
a
professional
manner
with
respect
without
a
personal
attacks.
Also,
cheering
and
clapping
is
not
permitted
during
the
debate.
A
H
Good
evening,
mayor
commissioners,
my
name
is
robin
sanger
1630
lonesome
pine
lane
here
in
tarpon
springs
something
occurred
to
me
that
I'd
like
to
bring
to
y'all's
attention,
and
that
is
whenever
we're
down
at
the
bayou
for
veterans
day
and
memorial
day.
The
war
memorial
is
down
there
and
I
recall
when
that
memorial
was
put
up.
I
believe
it
was
mayor.
Protis
was
under
her
administration
when
that
was
installed
and
at
the
time,
if
I
recall
correctly,
one
of
the
sides
was
left
blank.
So
it
has
all
the
conflicts.
H
First,
world
war,
second,
world
war,
et
cetera,
but
one
of
the
sides
was
left
blank
for
future
wars,
and
I
know
that,
since
that
monument
was
installed,
we've
had
quite
a
few
conflicts
in
our
world
that
our
military
has
been
involved
in.
So
I'd
like
to
look
in
to
see
if
we've
lost
any
more
of
our
residents
to
any
conflicts
and
add
their
names
out
of
respect.
I
Good
evening
mike
eisner
1515
riverside
drive.
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware.
I
don't
know
who's
doing
the
sidewalk
repair
on
riverside,
but
there's
rebar
posts
sticking
up
and
some
of
them
have
the
orange
protectors.
It
doesn't
impale
you
and
most
of
the
a
lot
of
them
are
missing,
so
it
doesn't
pay
to
have
some
of
them
protected
and
some
of
them
not
so
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know:
okay.
J
J
J
G
Peter
lockas
514
ashland
avenue
and
before
I
get
into
my
readings,
I'd
like
to
compliment
staff
on
miss
hartley
who's
been
doing
the
comp
plan
programs.
She
seems
very
competent
and
she's
making
us
aware
of
a
number
of
things
to
solve
the
affordable
housing
crisis
that
kept
coming
up
in
last
night's
forum.
G
G
G
G
A
A
We
need
abortion
to
excuse.
Vice
mayor
carr
and
commissioner
tara
penny
for
being
absent
at
the
work
session
february,
1st
vice
mayor
carr
was
absent
due
to
the
family
commitment
and
commission
terrapin
was
tested
positive
with
cover
19..
So
we
need
a
motion
to
excuse.
A
motion.
Excuse
need
a
second.
You
can
do
that.
Oh
second,.
E
A
We
are
now
going
to
the
consent
agenda.
Number
one
is
the
special
events.
A
garden
club
plant
cell
b
is
pta
color
run
number
two
is
the
award
file
number
220075
and
jl
single
source
purchase
of
legal
and
promotional
advertising?
Number
three:
is
the
award
file
number
twenty?
Two
zero
zero?
Eighty
one
nas
public
safety
health
screening
number
four
is
to
approve
expenditures
for
elite
sister
city
tween
visit.
A
A
Here
now
now
we're
going
to
the
public
comments
of
these
items,
one
through
four,
including
the
addendum
number
one.
A
I
hear
none.
We
need
a
motion
so.
B
A
Second-
and
we
go
to
commission
commons,.
A
Any
comments.
Well,
I
like
to
comment
on
the
item
number
four
that
I'd
like
to.
Let
everybody
know
that
we
will
be
hosting
a
delegation
from
ilida
greece
to
complete
the
second
phase
of
the
tweening
for
the
sister
city
program.
The
formal
training
ceremony
will
be
on
march
18th
at
5
p.m.
Here
in
the
auditorium
and
we're
requesting
to
we're
requesting
for
authorization
to
spend
two
thousand
dollars
for
the
funds,
they've
already
been
budgeted
to
cover
the
expenses.
A
K
A
Yes
and
now
we're
going
to
the
special
consent
agenda
item
number
five,
which
is
the
award
bid,
number
220066,
b,
bjo
barrier
services.
Mr
aquarius
staff
report.
M
M
A
Mayor,
thank
you,
mr
smith.
We're
going
to
go
to
the
public
comments.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments
of
this
item?
B
A
A
A
Maryland
who's
this,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
smith,
don't
go
away!
The
next
is
yours.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Next
is
item
number
six
increase
file,
number
210102,
bjl,
utility
rehabilitation
and
construction
services
re-bid,
mr
smith,.
M
Thank
you
mayor.
This
item
has
to
do
with
our
utility
rehabilitation
and
construction
services
contract.
The
city
went
out
to
bid
for
this
and
actually
recommended,
and
the
board
approved
three
different
contractors
that
we
have
and
sort
of
a
bullpen
that
we
can
rotate.
The
work
among
the
work
includes
small
to
mid-range
size,
utility
improvement
projects,
but
also
emergency
repairs
and
we've
had
to
use
that
a
few
times
and
have
been
very
satisfied
with
the
responsiveness
of
that
type
of
work.
M
But
what
we're
here
in
front
of
you
tonight
for
is
asking
for
an
increase
in
that
contract
will
typically
come
with
the
initial
request
for
approval
with
an
estimated
amount
and
as
we're
able
to
accomplish
more
work,
we'll
come
back
and
request
an
increase
to
that
contract
authorization
amount
and
that's
what
we're
doing
here
tonight
we're
requesting
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
increase.
We've
got
some
projects
identified
that
we
want
to
continue
to
do.
M
O
N
743
chesapeake
drive,
I've
just
got
some
observations.
We
awarded
this
contract
in
march
of
last
year
for
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
october.
We
had
to
raise
it
by
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
in
february
now
we're
asking
to
raise
it
by
another
500
000.
N
Now,
I'm
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
actually
read
through
the
whole
contract.
It
didn't
sound
like
a
blanket
purchase
order
to
me,
but
it's
somewhat
open-ended.
One
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
point
out
with
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
was
stated
in
the
backup
for
this
was
the
accomplishment
of
rehabbing.
N
A
We
are
now
going
to
the
commission
comments,
mr
smith.
It's
very
important
to
continue
repair
and
replace
the
underground
utilities
and
and
lift
stations
because
they've
been
there.
You
know
the
kind
of
in
some
places
years
back.
We
started
a
program
to
replace
the
water
lines.
Can
you
tell
us
where
we're
at
with
this
program.
M
Yes,
mayor
so
each
year
it's
generated
by
staff.
They
know
the
system
the
best
they
work
with
it
every
day.
It's
the
same
crews
that
do
the
repairs,
put
the
work
orders
in
they
know
the
areas
that
are
either
causing
water
quality
complaints
due
to
corroding
metal
pipes
or
things
that
are
breaking
often
in
the
same
area,
so
they
put
together
a
prioritized
list.
It's
an
ongoing
list
that
gets
updated
regularly
and
that's
the
list
they
work
from
to
make
recommendations
on
which
projects
we
should
put
in
here
for
that
type
of
application.
A
M
Yes,
there's
approximately
60
lift
stations
throughout
the
city,
which
is
a
pretty
high
number
for
a
city
of
our
size.
It
has
to
do
with
the
topography
and
historically,
the
way
the
system
was
designed.
But
these
these
lift
stations
carry
the
sewer
from
the
gravity,
flowed
lines
and
pump
it
back
towards
the
central
treatment
system.
A
Thank
you,
my
last
questions
to
a
question
to
mr
la
curios,
mr
la
curtis.
You
provided
us
with
the
project
priority
list
that
are
requested
and
soon
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
on
how
to
spend
the
12
million
dollars
that
we
receive
from
the
kobe
fund.
Any
of
those
projects,
part
of
the
the
list
that
you
provide
us
or
not,.
L
M
Correct
we've
put
in
our
request
or
recommendation
to
do
sewer
system
expansions
now.
That'll
include
new
pipes,
new
lift
stations,
these
replacements
and
repairs
are
more
about
budget
budgeted,
cip.
B
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
touch
on
something
that
you
just
brought
up
paul,
so
you
said
it
was
this
falls
in
within
the
budget
that
we
have
for
our
cip,
that
you
have
our
water
rates,
zero
rates
that
go
out
to
our
residents
every
month.
Right,
that's.
M
B
Okay,
so
it
says
it's
coming
from
water
distribution,
sewer
collections
and
lift
station
funding.
So
it's
not
like
this
is
coming
from
penny.
It's
all
dedicated
funding
specifically
for
these
types
of
items.
Right,
that's
correct!
What
happens
when
a
lift
station
is
out
of
order?
Do
you
have
like
a
substitute
lift
station
that
you
could
bring
in
and
kind
of
redirect
or
what's
that
look
like.
M
That's
a
great
question:
I
mean
unless
we're
rebuilding
something
we
design
them
and
operate
them,
that
they
don't
go
down
and
if
they
do
it's
in
a
short
enough
time,
they're
back
online
before
that
water
level
rises
to
a
point
that
it's
a
problem
and-
and
we
cover
that
many
different
ways
with
redundant
equipment,
multiple
power
sources,
if
it's
a
power
problem
but
and
people
on
call.
So
it's
very
rare
that
we
would
ever
see
a
lift
station
out
of
service
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
M
B
It
okay,
so
I
know,
as
the
arca
funds
were
brought
up
briefly,
and
I
do
think
it's
important
that
the
city
looks
at
making
a
priority
on
how
the
water's
being
moved
throughout
the
city,
the
portable
water,
as
a
priority
over
the
sewer.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
the
city's
done
a
great
job
overall
with
the
sewer
projects
and
expansion.
B
I
think
they've
done
a
great
job,
also
with
replacing
water
lines
as
a
whole
too,
and
your
your
team
does
a
really
good
job
as
a
whole
with
customer
service
too,
with
the
with
the
residents.
But
if
I
would
I
mean
my
my
recommendation
would
be
that
really
the
city
focuses
on
replacing
the
old
pipes
that
are
out
there
and
making
that
a
priority
over
putting
additional
sewer
lines
in
with
the
arca
funds
and
really
make
that
a
priority
with
the
funding
in
general.
Moving
forward
thanks
paul.
K
Just
a
couple
things
for
you,
real,
quick
as
it
relates
to
like
our
crews
that
handle
day-to-day
operations
of
the
city
and
repairs.
That's
still
going
to
happen,
yes,
yeah.
This
is
just
essentially
for
remember
and
they
still
handle
some
emergency
related
things
as
well.
I
know
that
to
be
true
right,
that's
right,
yeah,
so
this
is
mainly
just
for
some
bigger
projects
that
we're
not
capable
of
handing,
as
well
as
some
of
the
bigger
emergency
repairs
like
what
we
had
happen
on
live
oak
a
few
years
ago,.
K
And
then
did
you
just
want
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
a
comment
that
was
made
as
it
relates
to
the
consecutive
increases
in
this?
In
this
bid,
did
we
take
on
some
extra
projects,
or
did
you
want
to
provide
a
little
insight.
M
Yeah-
and
I
did
see
that
one
point
that
was
brought
up-
I
think
we
had
a
scrivener's
error
as
we
used
to
call
it
when
the
cover
memo
is
different
than
the
department
memo.
And
if
you
look
at
mine,
I
did
update
it.
It
just
wasn't
updated
from
before
that
project
was
part
of
that
last
increase,
and
it
was
done
so
that
that,
if
you
look
at
the
department
memo
behind
procurement's
memo,
that's
got
the
most
current.
M
That
was
the
tarpon
point.
Lift
station
yeah,
so
that's
actually
under
the
work
recently
completed,
is
what
that
should
have
been
referenced
to.
We've
got
other
projects
we're
pointing
towards
for
this
increase,
including
a
major
lift
station
rehabilitation
on
our
ferris
wheel
right
down
by
this.
M
P
Q
M
Please
sure
yeah,
so
it
really
isn't
a
price
increase.
What
we're
doing
is
asking
you
to
increase
the
authorization
to
utilize
these
contracts
to
do
more
work.
It
isn't
adding
cost
to
work
already
being
worked
on.
This
is
like
new
projects.
We've
identified
that
we
can
get
done.
We
just
don't
go
out
at
the
beginning
of
year
with
a
big
old
number,
because
we've
got
to
see
how
long
it
takes
and
there
are
sometimes
some
emergency
things
that
need
to
be
done.
M
Example,
given
some
work
done
not
long
ago,
a
contractor
damaged
our
lines,
so
we
needed
to
get
in
there
and
repair
them
we're
seeking
reimbursement
for
that,
but
that's
an
authorization
that
we
needed
from
you
all
to
do
that.
Work.
Q
So
it's
it's
more
money,
more
work,
that's
right!
Okay,
and
then
there
was
some
issues
of
some
of
the
work
was
I
don't
want
to
say.
Scoped
out,
you
didn't
know
what
you
were
getting
into
until
you
got
there
and
that
those
projects
cost
more.
There
were
conflicts
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
remember
there
was
a
discussion
on
that
as
well.
M
Yes,
but
it
really
is
more
about
okay,
we're
at
this
point.
In
the
year
we've
got
some
more
projects
we
can
do
on
our
lists,
but
we're
running
out
of
authorization
amount.
Let's
go
back
and
ask
for
an
increase
and
here's
the
projects
we
want
to
work
on.
Okay.
So,
for
example,
we
just
finished
the
second
phase
of
rebuilding
the
water
system
inside
the
river
village
mobile
home
park.
I
mean
that
was
a
huge
win
for
the
city.
M
Q
Were
quite
a
bit
of
I
don't
know.
Quite
I
guess
there
were
complaints
but
observations
as
far
as
the
discolored
water
and
I
think
those
additional
pipes
got
thrown
into
this
additional
work
as
well.
So
I
I
want
to
point
out
to
residents
that
we
are
receptive
to
the
observations
that
come
in
or
the
complaints
and
we
address
them
as
part
of
this
contract.
Q
That
was
something
I
had
exchanged
some
emails
with
folks,
who
said
we
weren't
doing
it
and
we,
you
know.
In
fact,
we
had
this
huge
contract,
the
pricing
structure,
if
you
could
just
describe
that
a
little
bit,
we've
got
three
vendors
three
contractors.
M
Yes,
so
what
we
did
is
we
put
line
items
I
mean
this
goes
on
for
pages
and
pages,
and
it's
it's
a
very
detailed
list
of
if
you
have
this
size
pipe.
What's
the
unit
cost
to
do
this
type
of
thing
with
that
size
pipe
and
each
of
them
we
put
project
example
quantities
in
to
so
they
could
bid
on
apples
and
apples
and
based
on
that,
we
selected
the
three
with
their
individual
rates.
So
we
have
three
contracts
we
can
use
and
we
have
established
pricing
unit
pricing
for
that.
R
Janina
lewis,
procurement
services
director,
basically
on
that
contract,
each
contractor
bids
their
own
rates,
but
they
were
all
very
close.
I'm
not
saying
they
all
have
the
exact
rates
for
each
like
12
inch
pipe.
No,
what
we
do
is
base
the
workload
off
of
what
they
can
accomplish.
Who
has
a
greater
workload
at
the
moment?
What
their
experience
is,
what
they've
done
better
at.
Q
E
A
A
P
R
R
We
did
so
and
in
november
we
received
the
proposal
back.
Unfortunately,
we
only
received
one
proposal
and
one
letter
of
no
bid.
So
what
you
have
before
you
is
the
waste
management
proposal
with
two
options
for
award
and
if
you
can
see
on
the
second
page,
basically,
the
base
bid
is
a
two-day
service
with
roll-off
containers
included.
A
A
No
public
comments.
Thank
you.
We
need
a
motion
motion
to
approve.
We
need
abortion
to
approve
with
to
select
an
option
option
one
with
the
roll-offs
and
option
two
without
a
roll-offs
which
one.
Q
I'll
move
to
for
discussion,
the
move,
the
that
waste
management
includes
the
roll-offs
in
the
contract,
or
we
include
the
roll-offs
in
the
contract
with
waste
management.
Do
we
include
it?
Okay,.
Q
A
A
With
this
proposal,
the
utility
bill
for
the
single
family
will
increase,
will
increase
3.87,
including
the
dollar
59,
that
was
raised
inc
that
was
increased
for
the
period
of
the
six
months,
so
the
utility
bill
now
is
going
to
be
18
and
13
cents
per
month
for
the
single
family,
but
we
have
two
proposed.
This
proposal
has
two
options
that
we
need
to
select.
A
S
Good
evening
tom
function,
public
works
director
option
one
with
the
roll
offs
we'll
have
some
increases
in
it.
There's
no
doubt
about
it
if
you've
seen
it
on
the
market's
about
20
percent
increase,
when
you
pull
the
roll-offs
out
an
option
in
the
third
option
over
here-
and
this
is
probably
more
towards
waste
management,
they
did
this.
That
comes
off
the
total
gross
amount
of
the
contract,
but
it
also
adds
additional
20.
S
On
top
of
your
commercial,
your
commercial
accounts,
your
your
weekly
daily
pickups,
which
would
increase
their
their
their
rate
about
40
percent,
additional.
K
Tom
and
the
backup,
as
it
relates
to
the
roll-offs,
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
one
of
the
biggest
interpretation
issues
with
the
code
in
the
past
has
been.
If
you
have
a
roll
off
and
you're
using
it.
For,
let's
say
construction
debris,
it
doesn't
really
specify
construction
debris
and
at
least
the
backup
it
says,
solid
waste.
K
S
Well,
it's
all
solid
way.
Recycling
is
under
a
different
guideline.
Solid
waste
is
up
to
the
the
contractor.
I
mean
I'm
sorry
recycling's
up
to
the
contractor,
of
course,
concrete
things
like
that
that
can
recycle
them
directly.
It's
not
it's
not
under
our
ordinance
and
the
other
type
of
trash
in
the
city,
including
construction
debris,
or
that
goes
to
a
best
way.
A
site
would
then
be
required
to
be
picked
up
by
waste
management.
Anything
over
10
yards
over
10
yards.
K
S
K
Gotcha
but
construction
debris
is
classified
as
waste
as
waste
yes
and
therefore,
within
this
contract.
If
we
opted
to
go
with
the
option
which
precludes
roll-offs,
then
you
would
not
be
able
to
supply
your
own
dumpster
correct,
and
you
said
that
it
by
doing
so,
that
would
increase
the
commercial
accounts
by
40
percent.
Yes,
but
no
effect
on
the
residential
accounts.
B
A
question
question
for
tom:
I
just
wanna-
make
sure
I
understand
it
correctly,
so
I'm
looking
at
roloffs
versus
no
roll-offs,
yes,
so
roll-offs
the
the
dumpsters
for
the
small
businesses
would
be
anywhere
between
12
86
to
308
dollars
a
month
and
then,
if
we
go
to
without
roll-offs
it'd
be
25
to
six
hundred
and
twelve
dollars
a
month.
Yes,
that's
so
there's
a
pretty
big
significance.
B
That
would
be
an
impact
to
the
small
businesses
right
that
we're
looking
at
if
we
don't
include
the
roll-offs,
yes,
sir,
okay
and
then
looking
at-
and
this
might
be
for
miss
lewis.
But
my
understanding
is
it's
387
per
month
on
top
of
the
dollar
59
per
month
per
household?
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly?
I
mean
that
was
what
the
numbers
look
like
from
ron.
So
it's
a
total
increase
of
5.46
from
what
we
were
paying
last
october.
R
B
B
Okay,
I
just
wanna
make
sure
we're
in
the
right
place.
Okay,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
with
with
the
roll-offs.
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
I
don't
want
to
have
an
impact
on
the
small
businesses.
B
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
flexibility,
but
I
think
commissioner,
terry
payne
brought
up
a
good
point
on
what's
available
that
can
be
used
as
an
alternative
to
roll
offs.
If
there's
other
businesses
that
are
out
there,
I
do
have
some
other
comments.
I
have
some
questions
for
waste
management
mayor.
I'm
not
sure
when
the
appropriate
time
is
to
talk
about
that.
B
K
R
R
E
K
But
then
I
see
so
I
saw
the
120
and
but
then
I
see
a
loss
of
revenue
for
roll
offs
to
the
city
would
go
down
to
approximately
40
000..
So
what's
the
difference
between
the
120
and
the
40.,
I.
T
K
So
I'm
asking
about
the
revenue:
it's
projected
that
in
a
five-year
contract
we
get
about
600
000
in
revenue
as
it
relates
to
the
roll-offs.
So
janine
answered
my
question
as
far
as
how
that
comes.
It's
the
admin
fee,
but
then
I
see
the
loss
of
revenue
for
roll-offs
to
our
city.
Admin
will
go
down
approximately
40
000
a
year
and
I'm
just
curious.
T
We
did
go
that
route,
but
getting
into
the
contract.
In
total,
we
will
be
increasing
the
admin
portion
because
a
contract
rate
is
going
up
so
and
annually
we
get
about
850
000
a
year
of
admin
fee
at
the
20
which
helps
cover
the
employees
of
the
sanitation
fund.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
helping,
explain
it
or
confuse
it
more.
But
this.
K
I
get
I
mean
my
thing
was.
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
difference
is
if
we're
going
to
get
120
from
the
roll-offs
a
year
and
then,
if
we
don't
do
the
roll-offs,
then
we're
going
to
go
down
to
approximately
40
000.,
there's
a
difference
of
80
000
there
somewhere
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
how
we
get
to
that
difference.
You
get
the
120.
If
you
an
admin
fee
is,
if
you
have
the
roll-offs
or
if
you
don't
have
the
roll-offs,
it
goes
down
to
40..
It.
T
Have
that
roughly,
if
it's
about
four
million
dollars
worth
of
roll-off
total,
that's
in
the
total
five-year
contract.
Q
I
I
understand
you're
going
to
get
it
one
way
or
the
other
is
basically
what
it
boils
down
to
correct
and
the
the
four
million
dollars
is
because
it
would
be
expected
that
the
contractors
or
whoever
uses
the
real
loss
would
be
getting
roll-offs
somewhere
else,
and
I
would
suspect
if
they
do
choose
to
use
waste
management
roll-offs,
it's
still
outside
the
contract.
So
we
wouldn't
get
anything
admin
from
that,
even
though
they
were
using
waste
management.
Q
Picture
thirty-yard
dumpster
here:
okay,
all
right,
I
know
I've.
I've
talked
to
some
of
the
contractors
are
very
concerned
about
building
home
builders
and,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
home,
they
use
three
or
four
roll
offs
per
home,
and
that
price
is
that
fee
is
just
basically
added
on
to
the
price
of
the
home,
so
that
was
their
interest
of
getting
it
down
and
also
it's
just
the
cost
of
doing
business.
R
Over
460,
something
contractors
received
a
notification
that
this
bid
was
posted.
I
personally
called
one
and
emailed
another
and
notified
them
that
this
was
posted
on
demand
star.
Q
Okay,
all
right
and
same
manual,
of
course,
we're
going
to
get
to
the
recycling
questions
answers
a
little
later.
Is
that
correct.
Q
Q
Come
out
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
mayor,
I
there's
some
other
questions
I
have,
but
I
think
go.
Q
There
were
some
questions
concerning
the
recycling
and
the
data
that
we
get
from
waste
management.
That
tells
us
how
we're
doing
and
also
and
I've,
had,
the
experience
where
the
market
goes
down
and
and
they're
just
mingled
with
the
rest
of
the
waste
that
goes
to
the
regular
landfill
and
what
what
what
statistics
do
we
get?
What
data
do
we
get,
and
and
do
we
publish
that
or
I've
not
seen
it
and
there's
some
questions
that
came
in
from
several
residents
concerning
that.
S
Yeah
there's
a
few
questions.
Actually
I
got
a
chance
to
look
at
this
a
little
bit
yeah.
We
actually
get
a
monthly
report
from
waste
management
on
the
recycling
every
month.
We
get
it
and
we
look
at
it
and
we
see
where
the
rates
are
a
lot
of
times.
Lately
it's
been
negative,
but
they
show
those
rates
over
here
every
every
month
and
then
there's
a
report
done
at
the
end
of
the
year
for
total.
Q
Is
that
something
on
our
on
our
city,
docs,
that,
like
our
financial
reports
or
publishing,
I
believe
it
goes
there.
Q
Years,
I've
been
doing
the
contracts
yeah
and
as
far
as
do
we
have
any
idea
of
of
where
that
material
sorted.
Where
does
waste
management
sort
that
material.
S
It
actually
goes
down,
they
actually
have
a
center
down
on
the
clear
water
here
they
collect
it
and
then
they
bring
it
over
to
tampa.
It's.
Q
Their
own
station
facility,
okay
and
then,
and
then
some
of
that
goes
to
the
landfill.
Yes,.
E
Q
E
Q
And
I
would
suspect
waste
management.
I
know
the
gentleman
gentleman's
here
from
waste
management.
I
imagine
waste
management
transports
that
somewhere
else
and
then
it's
bundled
or
whatever
they
do
to
send
it
overseas
or
anything.
We'll
I'll.
Just
save
that
question
for
later
and
then
the
are
we
notified
when
this
material
no
longer
has
a
market
and
it's
being
mingled
with
the
regular
house,
waste
and
and
just
goes
to
the
landfill.
S
Yeah
we
usually
when
the
landfill.
If
the
landfill
is
accepting
different
materials,
they
let
everyone
know
it
throughout
the
whole
county.
Here
we've
had
a
good
relationship
with
waste
management,
probably
the
last
five
or
six
years.
I
don't
recall
one
item
not
being
pulled
off
here,
but
they're,
very
good
at
notifying
us
on.
What's
going
on
with
that,
yeah.
Q
I
think
the
idea
is
that
some
residents
don't
want
to
go
to
the
trouble
of
of
segregating
their
recyclables
to
their
from
their
home,
regular
houseways.
If
it's
going
to
go
to
the
same
place
and
they'd
like
to
be
notified
in
that
situation,
and
that.
S
Q
And
mr
function
along
that
line
these
these
times
when
the
market
goes
down
and
the
material
isn't
really
isn't
sold
there
isn't
a
market
for
it.
Are
we
talking
about
a
one
month
two
month
three
month?
I
know
it
depends,
but
generally
is
it?
What
kind
of
time
period
are
we
talking
about
when
there
isn't
a
market
for
some
of
the
recyclables.
S
Well,
that's
that's
a
trick
question.
It
all
depends
on
the
market
right
now.
I
know
lumens
way
up
over
here
about
plastics
are
down,
it
fluctuates
so
much
there's
not
nothing,
really
steady
on
behalf.
Q
S
B
I've
got
one
more
question:
this
one
could
go
to
someone's
city
staff,
we'll
start
with
city
manager.
Can
you
confirm
what
the
I
forgot,
what
the
total
admin
fee
is
for
the
non-roll-offs?
Let's
just
say,
the
the
traditional
trash
pickup
for
single
family
homes
and
commercial
is
that
you
recall
what
that
is
iran
that
that's
a
wrong
question
and
if
you
don't
know
what
that
is,
I
mean
the
ultimate
question
is
going
to
be.
B
Correct
so
I
mean
the
city
marks
up
the
the
curbside
and
the
dumpsters
for
an
admin
fee.
Am
I
correct
in
that
correct?
Okay?
So
what
is
that
admin
fee?
20,
20,
okay,
so
20
of
a
million
dollars
or
1.1
million
dollars-
is
220,
000
or
so
right.
So
that's
a
significant
impact,
I
think
to
our
rates
as
residents
and
I
think
that's
something
we
should
look
at
pulling
back
down.
L
What
we
could
look
at
and
what
we
talked
about
looking
at
depending
on
how
this
went
tonight,
was
seeing
what
that
number
would
be
to
get
the
same
amount
of
revenue
so
to
not
increase
the
revenue
for
it,
but
to
keep
it
at
the
revenue
we
get
now.
That's
one
thing
we
could
do
what
percentage
would
that
be?
It's
probably
three
to
four
percent
off,
but
that
is
one
thing
that,
depending
on
the
conversation
that
I
know
ron
had
talked
about,
maybe
looking
at
to
to.
L
B
B
10,
so
do
we
need
10
people
to
be
funded
by
the
sanitation
fund,
or
do
should
we
fund
it
through
another
fund
if
ad
valorem
or
what
may
be
where
the
true
tax
should
be
evident
instead
of
putting
a
digital
admin
fee,
which
we've
talked
about
the
water
admin
fee
in
the
past
on
the
trash?
So
I
think
that's
something
I'd
like
to
look
at
this
coming
budget
and
we
could
get
into
more
detail.
Okay
with
that,
we
can.
L
T
T
Q
You
yeah,
I
just
have
one
more
question.
A
Q
Manager,
of
course,
that
would
only
be
that
reduction.
You
would
be
looking
at.
We
don't
I'm
sorry.
That's.
Q
In
other
words,
the
option
two,
if
we
chose,
are
chose
the
option
where
waste
management
would
not
be
including
the
roll-offs
in
their
or
fee
or
the
roll-offs
would
not
be
contracted
with
waste
management.
It
option
one.
Q
T
T
One
or
option
two
you
could
do
both
of
them,
because
the
total
contract
is
going
up
from
the
roughly
20
million
right
now
for
the
five
years
to
26
million
for
the
one
proposal
and
24
plus
on
the
other
proposal.
So
for
the
one
with
the
roll
roll-offs,
you
could
reduce
the
admin
fee
to
16
for
the
one.
Without
the
roll-offs
you
could
be
the
17
percent.
Q
Q
T
Started
that
march
31st,
when
the
new
rates
would
be
put.
Q
J
A
P
E
A
The
what
I
want
to
ask
you
is
the
waste
management
has
been
very
good
with
the
community
involvement
program.
Can
you
tell
us
what
community
involvement
program
that
you're
going
to
have
for
this
contract
for
this
period?.
E
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor
carter,
I
have
a
question
to
the
yeah.
B
I
noticed
you
guys
didn't
have
the
rest
of
your
crew
here
tonight.
So
I'm
looking
for
the
green
jacket
where's
that
at.
B
Don't
break
it
out?
Okay,
you
know.
I
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
this
a
little
bit
too,
and
some
community
involvement
and
we're
grateful
for
your
sponsorship
with
the
fourth
of
july,
and
thank
you
for
doing
that
over
the
past.
However,
many
years
it's
been,
I
know
it's
been
a
while
one
of
the
questions
that
we
talked
about
is
the
fees
impacting
and
I'm
critical
about
that
right
and
I
have
concerns
about
our
elderly-
have
concerns
about
single
families
that
have
fixed
incomes
and
so
on.
B
B
Waste
management's
been
a
great
partner
with
fourth
of
july
and
it'd
be
great
to
see
you
sponsor
that
as
well
too.
Is
that
something
you
could
work
with
the
city
manager
on
as
well
to
do
a
sponsorship
with
something
along
those
lines.
F
Yes,
it
is
like
I
said
we're
presented,
you
know
when
events
come
up
about
the
sponsorship
and
I
believe
we've
done
city
the
christmas
lights
sponsored
that
before
and
it
was
very
successful,
but
it's
just
you
know
you
just
have
to
decide.
You
know
where,
where
it
stands
in
that
that
particular
moment
but
yeah
we'd
love
to
do
that.
F
Well,
we've
been
the
the
fourth
of
july
is
inside
the
contract,
but
you
know
we
can
discuss
putting
something
else.
If
you,
if
you
have
something
else,
you
want
in
there
desired
in
there.
That
would
be
a
good
benefit
for
the
city.
B
Yeah
then,
if
it's
like
working
with
the
cops
and
kids
or
something
along
those
lines,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
that
program
or
not,
but
it
would
probably
be
a
good
thing
for
you
all
to
learn
about
and
the
good
things
that's
happening
in
our
community
with
that
too.
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
if
I
mean,
if
you're
willing
to
do
that-
and
it
sounds
like
you're-
there's
some
willingness
there-
I
think
that
would
be
good
for
for
you
to
see
to
be
involved
with
those
two
things.
F
D
Q
F
So
we
and
that's,
been-
I
guess,
two
two
and
a
half
years
three
years,
so
we've
we've
been
very
successful
at
that
and
I
was
putting
together
an
rfp
the
other
day
where
our
recycling
team
said
right
now
we
have
nothing
going
leaving
the
country
okay,
so
but
our
material
goes
by
the
collection
truck
down
to
clearwater,
where
we
have
a
transfer
station
and
at
the
transfer
station
it's
offloaded
and
it's
loaded
onto
tractor
trailers.
F
I
guess
you
would
say,
make
it
more
reasonable
transportation
and
it's
taken
to
our
materials
facility,
sorting
facility
in
tampa
it's
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
from
there
it's
sorted.
It
separates
everything
you
know
it's
done
to
it,
there's
put
in
bales
and
at
that
point
it'll
be
taken.
You
know
wherever
it
needs
to
be
taken
right
now,
domestically.
Q
Q
And
then
the
probably
the
most
important
question
for
the
residents
other
than
the
three
dollars
and
something
cents
increase
in
addition
to
the
current
water
bill,
the
utility
bill
that
they're
getting
is.
Is
there
anything
that
they're
going
to
see
that's
going
to
change
from
what
you're
doing
right
now?
Nothing.
F
No,
we
take
great
pride
in
standing
here
and
saying
that
nothing
is
going
to
change.
That's
what
we
talked
about
earlier.
We're
gonna
only
come
by
in
the
neighborhoods
two
times
a
week
and.
F
A
You
thank
you
before
we
go
to
roll
call
bill.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
sponsoring
the
fourth
of
july
picnic.
That
was
my
recommendation
to
you
a
few
years
back
when
I
was
a
commissioner
and
thank
you
for
keep
doing
it.
F
A
Maryland,
yes,
thank
you
we're
now
going
to
before
we
go
to
the
public
hearing,
we're
going
to
take
10
minutes
break.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
U
Yes
mayor,
this
is
ordinance
2021-24,
an
ordinance
to
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Florida
amending
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
comprehensive
plan
to
adopt
the
property
rights
element
in
accordance
with
florida
statute,
163.3161
parent
10,
providing
for
several
ability
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
That
was
the
second
and
final
reading
of
ordinance
2021-24
by
title.
Only.
It
was
published
in
the
tampa
bay
times
by
title
only
on
september
29,
2021
october
31,
2021,
and
also
on
january
19.
2022.
A
V
Only
just
a
couple
of
minor
housekeeping
items
with
the
ordinance-
and
I
believe
the
city
clerk
did
hand
this
out
to
you.
We
had
a
typo
in
the
ordinance
title,
that's
been
corrected
in
section
one.
We
are
providing
for
the
placement
of
the
property
rights
element
to
be
placed
immediately
after
the
future
land
use
element
in
terms
of
its
order
in
the
conference
and
plan,
and
then
lastly,
we
did
add.
A
B
Q
A
U
American
ministers,
this
is
ordinance
2022-02,
an
ordinance
amending
section
56.06
of
the
tarpon
springs
code
to
amend
subsection,
9
thereof,
related
to
signage,
making
related
findings
providing
for
severability
providing
for
codification
providing
for
an
effective
date.
There
was
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
2022-02
by
title.
Only
the
second
reading
will
be
on
february
22
2022,
and
this
will
be
published
in
the
tampa
bay
times
by
title
only
on
february,
9
2022..
U
You
remember
that
this
item
was
brought
to
you
at
the
july,
our
necessary
january
12th
meeting
my
associate
rob
eschenfelder
brought
it
to
you
and
discussed
briefly
the
need
to
change
this
code
section
to
delete
a
sentence.
U
You
remember
that
back
in
2020
there
were
two
code
sections
added
to
the
city
code
relating
to
food.
Truck
use
as
an
accessory
use
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Remember
that
there
was
a
statute
that
was
created
in
2020
that
basically
said
that
we
could
not
prohibit
these
trucks
from
being
used
within
the
city.
U
Therefore,
these
two
code
sections
were
adopted,
one
of
the
code
sections
provided
for
a
condition
and
that
condition
was
a
requirement
that
the
vehicle
operated
as
an
accessory
use
on
the
side
of
the
the
food
establishment
or
drink
establishment
had
to
display
a
graphic
image,
name
or
branding
of
the
primary
food
or
drink
establishment,
while
operating
as
an
accessory
use.
There
we're
basically
asking
you
to
allow
us,
through
this
code,
change
to
delete
that
sentence.
U
U
U
Q
B
U
A
T
A
E
A
We
are
now
going
to
item
number
11,
which
is
the
resolution
2022-02,
the
application,
20-75
site
plan
approval
live,
walk
at
ankle
river
crossing.
This
is
a
quasi
judicial.
The
city
attorney
will
reach
the
title
and
it
will
explain
the
quasi-judicial
process.
Seat
attorney.
U
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
resolution.
2022-02
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida,
approving
application,
number
20-75,
requesting
site
plan;
approval
for
live
oak
at
enclote
river
crossings
to
construct
a
10-unit
residential
townhome
development,
totaling
25,
430
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area
on
1.46
acres,
more
or
less
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
live
oak
street
and
athenian
way
in
the
t4c
residential
high
district
transect
zone
of
the
sponge,
docks
and
community
redevelopment
area
special
plan
providing
for
findings
providing
for
conditions
and
providing
an
effective
date.
U
That
was
a
reading
of
resolution
2022-02
by
title.
Only
I'll
read
the
causational
procedures
of
this
hearing.
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
board
of
commissioners
acts
in
a
quasi
so
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-hearing.
It's
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
a
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-hearing.
U
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision.
Regarding
the
application
before
it,
the
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
U
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
that
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
establishing
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
you
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
of
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria,
establish
a
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
against
the
applicant.
U
U
U
V
V
V
The
proposed
project
is
basically
10
town
home
units
being
constructed
as
semi-detached,
so
those
are
two
unit
townhomes.
They
will
be
relying
on
the
stormwater
system.
This
whole
site
was
master
planned
to
accommodate
stormwater.
This
is
in
the
city
special
area
plan.
It
is
actually
very
well
below
density,
which
they
could
based
on
the
allowable
density.
They
could
have
almost
20
units
there.
They
have
provided
adequate
parking
and
landscaping.
V
There's
really
no
issues
from
a
site
plan
perspective.
There
are,
however,
I
do
want
to
talk
about
two
specific
waivers
that
are
being
requested.
So,
within
the
smart
code,
we
have
a
requirement,
for
you
have
a
primary
frontage,
which
is
the
east-west
portion
of
live
oak
street.
You
have
a
secondary
frontage,
which
is
the
north
north,
south
portion
of
live
oak
street
sort
of
the
smart
code.
V
It
expects
that
you
front
the
buildings
along
these
streets
when
this
project
was
was
originally
developed.
This
entire
out
parcel
was
envisioned
to
be
a
commercial
parcel
of
land
and
then
several
years
ago,
maybe
three
or
four,
this,
the
the
transect
zone
district,
was
changed
on
this
and
to
allow
it
to
be
straight
residential.
V
So
with
that-
and
I
think
rightly
so-
the
applicant
is
asking
to
to
kind
of
continue
the
theme
you
know
the
the
access
to
the
units
will
be
in
the
front
of
the
units
will
be
from
the
internal
athenian
way
private
street,
and
then
these
will
be
rear
yards.
So,
while
that
does
so
what
you,
what
they're
asking
for
then
are
waivers
to
the
frontage
requirements
and
then
to
compensate
for
that.
Normally,
you
would
require
a
street
screen
or
which
would
be
required
to
be
a
wall.
V
So
they're
one
they're
asking
for
the
location
of
that
to
be
set
back
a
little
bit
farther
than
would
be
allowed
normally
here
it's.
It
would
be
five
feet
and
they're
asking
to
go
up
to,
I
believe,
13
and
then
along
this
frontage.
It
would
be
10
feet.
The
wall
would
be
set
back
and
they're
actually
have
a
going
to
13
and
then
down
here
jogging
around
up
to
20.
V
and
so
the
the
but
the
location
really
is
to
accommodate
an
existing
platted
drainage
and
utility
easements
as
well
as
I
think,
an
even
more
important
aspect
is:
there's
there's
a
lot
of
trees
in
this
area
that
are
being
preserved
and
so
putting
a
concrete
wall
with
a
foundation
in
it
would
would
likely
necessitate.
You
know
a
loss
of
some
additional
trees.
V
So
what
they're
proposing
is
a
fence
with
associated
landscaping,
preserving
these
trees
and
then
planting
additional
trees,
and
I
do
have
an
elevation
of
that
effect
that
I
can
show
you
in
a
moment.
V
So
this
is
the
interior
elevation.
So
this
is
what
you
know.
The
the
townhomes
will
look
like
from
athenian
way
if
you're
on
the
inside.
These
are
going
to
be
one-story
town
homes,
so
it's
actually
providing
a
bit
of
a
nice
transition
from
live
oak
up
to
the
two-story
units
and
in
the
more
to
the
river.
V
I
kind
of
hurriedly
went
through
the
under
the
building
form
and
the
in
the
way,
the
warrants
that
are
being
requested
again,
the
using
a
fence
instead
of
a
wall
and
then
the
location
of
the
fence
being
set
back
a
little
bit
farther,
which
does
allow
for
additional
landscaping
and
preserving
and
not
encroaching
on
that
easement.
V
So
again,
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
pictorial
representation
of
the
same
thing
I
just
verbally
went
through.
V
This
is
a
kind
of
a
schematic
of
what
the
the
fencing
and
proposed
screening
and
the
screening
will
be
to
the
live
oak
side
of
of
the
fence,
so
it'll
be
on
the
outside
of
the
fence,
so
it'll
really
soften
that
that
that
fence
from
the
view
of
live
oak
street.
V
So
you
know
you'll
have
your
your
fence,
podocarpus
hedge
and
simpson,
stoppers,
just
as
your
base
plantings
and
then
and
and
when
this
went
to
the
planning
and
zoning
board.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
and
the
board
was
really
concerned
that
they
did
not
get
to
see
this.
They
were
because
they
they
realized
the
importance
of
this
kind
of
view
shed
coming
into
the
you
know,
entrance
into
the
to
the
sponge
docs
area.
So
they
did
while
they
did
recommend
approval
they.
V
They
did
so
with
the
request
that
or
requirement
that
this
elevation
rendering
be
provided
to
the
board
so
that
you
can
see
what
this,
what
what
the
furniture
is
going
to
look
like
along
live
oak
street.
So
here
you
see
a
combination
of
preserved
trees,
new
trees
being
planted.
V
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
fence.
I
believe
the
developer
is
here
and
they
can
speak
to
this,
but
the
intent
is
that
it
will
not
be
a
stark
white
vinyl
fence.
It
will
be
some
sort
of
color
muted.
That
was
is
a
little
more
complementary
to
the
to
the
landscaping,
so
this
is
what's
being
proposed
just
for
the
so
that
you
can
get
a
visual
representation
of
what
this
will
look
like
from
live
oak
street.
V
So
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
approve,
subject
to
recommended
conditions
and
to
approve
the
following
warrant
request.
The
first
one
is
the
street
screen
material
would
be
be
allowed
to
be
a
fence
instead
of
a
wall
and
then
the
location
of
the
principal
furnace
and
secondary
furnitures
of
that
that
actual
fence
would
be
set
back
as
depicted
in
the
drawings
and
then
the
actual
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
Our
standard
condition
of
approval
of
construction
plans
have
to
be
submitted
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
V
They
do
need
to
provide
the
details
for
site
lighting,
including
product
sheets,
that
do
meet
our
land
development
code,
section
127.06
the
required
hoa
documents
regarding
maintenance
of
live
oak
right-of-way,
as
well
as
the
the
master
meter
requirement
and
no
parking
along
athenian
way
and
live
oak
street.
V
They
do
have
to
provide
a
final
report
that
the
there's
adequate
holding
capacity
on
the
lift
station.
Again
speaking
with
our
public
works
folks,
our
utilities,
folks
they
don't
there's
no
issues
that
we
don't
expect
any
problems
with
this.
It
just
does
need
to
be
re-certified
upon
completion
of
the
site
work.
V
It
will
have
to
be
platted,
they
will
to
comply
with
their
public
art
program
and
the
site
plan
shall
expire
within
one
year
unless
a
building
permit
has
been
applied
for
the
planning
and
zoning
board
after
a
lot
of
discussion
did
recommend
approval
unanimously.
As
I
stated,
they
did
specify
that
the
applicant
provided
that
elevation
along
live
oak,
so
that
you
could
see
what
it
would
look
like
as
part
of
your
decision-making
process.
So
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
did.
A
Mayor
yeah,
miss
vincent:
you
mentioned
that
the
hoa
will
be
responsible
to
maintain
the
the
master
meter.
Yes
and
your
only
recommendation
number
four
that
you
had
there
the
condition
number
four.
A
You
say
that
about
the
lift
station.
Also
the
hr
be
responsible
for
the
lift
station
as.
U
You
any
questions
from
the
other
commissioners
vice
mayor.
B
Yeah
renee
quick
one
I've
seen
with
other
developments
that
they
count
parking
places
inside
the
garage
and
outside
the
garage.
It
seems
like
with
this
one
they're,
counting
the
parking
places
on
the
outside
of
the
garage.
What
does
our
city
code
say?
Does
that
do
you
have
a
comment
on
that.
V
B
K
K
K
I
don't
think
there
should
be
any
issue
with
the
screen
versus
the
wall,
for
the
reasons
that
you
listed,
I
think
you
know
some
of
those
big
mature
live
oaks
will
be
certainly
nice
to
keep
on
the
site
and
complement
the
site.
Well,
two
things
the
irrigation
I
didn't
it
was.
You
know
these
site
plans
on
our
desktops
are
a
little
small.
K
K
Than
I
can
right
now
and
then,
as
it
relates
to
parking
obviously
they're
superseding
their
requirement,
is
there
any
guest
additional
guest
parking
on
the
site
plan.
K
Okay,
that's
all
I
had
thank
you,
mr.
Q
V
Normally,
we
would
require
it
if
it's
available,
so
I
I
don't
know
off
top
of
my
head,
though,
if
it's,
if
it's.
P
Q
They're
all
over
the
place,
it's
a
no-brainer.
The
other
question
I
had
was
the
homeowners
association.
You
know
I
was
speaking
to
mr
mavro
mattis,
but
for
the
record
it
it's
not
an
independent
homeowner
association,
it'll
be
absorbed
by
the.
Q
U
You
the
applicant,
is
here,
sir:
would
you
like
to
step
forward
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
commission
and
be
prepared
to
answer
some
questions
if
you
could
state
your
name
and
your
address.
O
My
name
is
duane
milford,
mph
civil
consultant,
7720,
palera,
drive,
odessa
and,
of
course,
leon
mavromatis
is
here
with
me
as
well.
My
client,
as
was
pointed
out
staff,
did
a
really
good
job
with
a
presentation.
I
don't
know
that
I
need
to
repeat
a
whole
lot.
I
would
like
to
emphasize
a
few
things
again.
The
the
waivers
are
something
I
think
we
we
need
to
do
one.
O
The
setback
for
the
for
the
fence
is
kind
of
dictated
by
the
public,
drainage
and
utility
easements,
so
we're
just
staying
right
at
the
back
of
those
we
are
given.
I
think
three
more
feet
to
get
that
vegetation
in
the
ground
between
those
easements
and
the
fence
and
then
again
the
if
to
build
a
wall.
Typically,
a
wall,
that's
six
foot
is
going
to
have
a
footer
that
is
somewhere
between
18
and
24
inches
wide
and
maybe
a
foot
thick
and
that's
going
through
a
whole
lot
of
tree
roots.
O
O
Thing
I
wanted
to
mention,
and-
and
I
I
appreciate
miss
vincent
mentioning
how
this
development
or
intended
development
for
this
piece
of
property
has
progressed
from
what
was
a
commercial
site
to
when
we
even
originally
submitted.
We
had
12
units
and
then
for
a
multitude
of
reasons.
We
we
backed
off
to
10.,
but
each
time
that
changed
we're
we're
getting
further
and
further
away
from
what
was
provided
for,
for
instance,
stormwater
runoff.
O
Our
our
green
space
is
much
greater
than
what
had
been
approved
in
the
in
the
what
went
through
the
city
and
swift
mud
at
one
time
and
in
regard
to
that
sewage
lift
station.
It
was
sized
not
only
for
the
existing
townhome
development
to
the
north
of
us,
but
that
commercial
facility
as
well.
So
I
think
there
was
a
breakage
in
a
sewer
line
sometime
last
year.
I
believe-
and
I
think
that's
what
might
have
alerted
utilities
to.
O
Let's
make
sure
this
thing
is
in
good
shape,
but
the
hoa
has
a
maintenance
company
that
was
called
immediately
and
it
was.
It
was
a
three
inch
pvc
pipe
that
broke
that
they
fixed
immediately.
So
I
think
that's
where
that
came
from,
but
we
will
certainly
provide
the
the
report
requested
and
and
in
regard
to
irrigation,
the
the
vegetation
out
on
the
street
side
of
the
wall
will
need
to
be
irrigated
and
we
would
certainly
prefer
to
use
reclaim
than
than
any
other
source.
B
Yeah
the
design
looks
great,
and
I
appreciate
you
all
putting
in
the
effort
behind
that
and
providing
some
details,
and
I
would
agree
with
what
you
talked
about.
You
have
multiple.
You
have
an
opportunity
to
basically
double
your
density
and
you're
well
below
that.
So
I
appreciate
that.
From
that
standpoint,
I
think
you
made
a
great
point
in
how
it
was
commercial
and
rene
brought
it
up
as
well
too
in
the
past,
and
it's
kind
of
made
its
way
to
where
it
is
now.
B
I
know
a
lot
of
individuals
across
the
street
on
athenian
way
were
concerned
about
a
commercial
property
coming
in
there
across
from
their
property.
So
I
would
imagine
they
would
be
grateful
that
another
residential
property
is
coming
in
this
area
and
it's
good
to
hear
that
you're
also
saving
these
oak
trees
on
the
along
the
frontage
of
the
road
too.
What
I
mean,
what
was
the
interest?
B
Is
it
I'm
assuming
it's
the
the
business
owner
and
the
owner
of
the
the
company
wants
to
respect
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
and
his
property
right
to
not
build
to
the
max
density
and
have
some
more
open
space.
So
it's
a
better
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
that
live
there
is
that
kind
of
the
premise
behind
that.
O
O
Well
I'll
tell
you,
you
know:
I've
been
involved
in
this
project
about
a
year
and
a
half,
and
when
mr
mavro
mattis
came
to
me,
he
came
to
me
with
a
single
story
product
and
I
think
that's
just
something
that
they
would
like
to
build
here,
and
I
think
anybody,
if
you
think
about
it.
Ms
vincent
mentioned
it.
You
know
the
perspective
from
live
oak
to
have
the
one-story
town
homes
and
then
the
two-story
in
the
distance,
I
think,
is
just
the
way
to
go.
O
Some
of
the
some
of
the
live
oaks
we
were
able
to
save
with
a
one-story
product
would
not
we'd
either
be
trimming
them
drastically
or
not
saving
them.
If
we
went
two-story-
and
you
know-
and
I
we
went
from
12
to
10,
for
when
we
when
we
first
submitted
and
went
from
from
with
12
units,
we
got
some
comments
from
the
fire
marshal's
office
that
made
us
start
thinking
about
distance
between
units
even
and
that
that's
that
had
a
lot
to
do
with
why
we,
we
bumped
it
from
from
12
to
10..
O
You
know
maybe
mr
ma
member
mattis
can
speak
to
what
his
thoughts
were.
Proceeding
and
prior.
B
I
think
it
looks
great
no,
no,
no,
it
looks
great
and
I
think,
as
a
I
think,
the
the
the
owner,
the
the
llc,
is
doing
a
great
job.
The
mavericks
brothers
are
doing
a
great
job
here
with
this
project.
There's
been
other
projects,
I've
seen
throughout
the
city
that
they've
done,
and
it
looks
like
it's
me-
a
quality
project
to
enhance
this
corridor
of
the
city
heading
into
the
sponge
docks.
B
If
I
could
make
a
recommendation,
you
look
at
using
kunti
palms
as
an
alternative
to
ending
hawthorns
there's
just
a
longer.
Longevity
is
better
with
the
kunti
palms
and
ending
hawthorns
are
more
prone
to
disease,
and
also
I
mean
there's
very
little
water
that
are
required,
so
just
something
to
think
about
when
you're
doing
that
final
plan.
There.
Okay
appreciate
that,
but
overall
the
project's
great,
the
renditions
look
great.
I'm
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
this.
Q
U
W
Anita
pro's
901
bay
shore
drive
everything
the
maverimattas
family
has
done
in
tarpon
has
been
top
quality.
There
are
another
family
of
developers
like
a
few
others
in
town
and
they're
not
going
to
go
and
do
something.
That's
not
right
because
they
have
to
live
here
and
they've
been
very
good
to
us.
This
seems
like
a
very
fine
development.
W
W
We
need
people
to
come
into
tarpon
to
keep
the
stores
going.
We
want
to
trader
joe's
here,
but
if
people
aren't
here
to
spend
the
money
they're
not
going
to
come
in
and
they're
not
going
to
stay,
we
want
quality
restaurants.
We
want
quality
businesses
to
keep
those
going.
You
have
to
have
people
coming
to
live
and
tarpon
development
is
here.
I
am
all
for
development
because
it's
money
for
tarpon
springs,
it's
a
tax
tax
base
and
it's
a
good
community
and
it
needs
to
grow,
don't
stifle
it.
U
Seeing
no
one
else,
renee
did
you
have
any
additional
closing
art,
sir,
is
anything
else
you
wanted
to
present
to
the
commission?
No
okay!
It's
back
to
the
commission
for
consideration
mayor.
A
B
A
Approve
second,
thank
you
and
we
go
to
commission
commons.
What
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
to
mr
mavromatis,
this
is
a
very,
very
good
project.
It's
an
ideal
location.
It's
right!
Next
to
the
to
the
dog
park
right
across
from
the
field
recreation
field,
walking
distance
to
the
sponge
docks
into
downtown.
I
don't
think
you
can
find
a
better
location
for
a
place
to
live,
so
thank
you
for
developing
it.
B
Yeah
I'll
just
make
a
quick
one
mayor.
I'm
super
excited
to
see
this
moving
forward
and
this
is
a
piece
of
land.
That's
sat
there
for
quite
some
time
with
the
project
right
across
the
street,
from
it
being
completed.
So
it's
going
to
be
great
to
see
this
finalized
and
new
residents
move
into
tarpon
springs.
Thank
you.
Q
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
sponge,
docs
and
greektown
area
that
are
quite
concerned
about
some
of
the
construction
that
may
be
occurring
larger
homes
and
kind
of
sticking
out
beyond
what
you
would
see
with
your
normal
one-story
bungalows
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
I
just
want
to
say
about
this
project-
I
think
it's
a
very
sensitive
project
and-
and
I
personally
appreciate
the
13-foot
setback
on
the
fence-
the
fact
that
it's
one
story
and
the
fact
that
it's
10
units
instead
of
12.-
I
think
it's
perfect
from
the
standpoint
of
being
at
that
location,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
will
be
very
happy
to
see
that
and
I'm
sure
they're
going
to
get
sold
very
quickly,
and
I
wish
you
luck
on.
Q
A
A
A
Yes,
thank
you
we're
now
going
to
the
number
12,
which
is
the
resolution
2022-03
establishing
no
truck
routes,
see
that
training.
Please
read
the
resolution.
U
Mayor
commissioners,
resolution
2022-03,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
prohibit
trucks
westbound
on
mellon
street,
from
state
road,
582,
tarpon,
avenue,
keystone,
road
and
northbound
on
north
jasmine
avenue
from
state
road,
582,
tarpon,
avenue,
keystone
road
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
that
was
reading
resolution
20
22-03
by
title.
Only.
A
Thank
you
is
there
any
commission
comments.
Excuse
me
is
any
public
comments
on
this
item.
X
My
name
is
dan
roth
778.
North
lake
boulevard
tarpon
springs,
I'm
in
favor
of
putting
putting
that
in
both
directions,
actually
from
19.
Also
the
there's
a
sign
on
spruce
street
right
now.
That
is
a
little
bit
too
far
for
trucks
to
see
it,
which
I
think
you've
already
gone
over.
I
think
that
needs
approval
from
the
state
to
bring
that
closer
out
to
19.,
because
we
get
truck
traffic
from
both
directions.
On
there
we
get
traffic
from
flammer
ford
going
through
there
quite
a
bit.
X
School
buses
are
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
also,
but
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
cut
through
traffic
now
since
spruce
has
been
put
through.
So
I
think
it'd
be
a
good
idea
to
put
put
the
signs.
I
know
there's
going
to
be
some
trucks
coming
through
there
when
you
know
for
construction
for
other
projects
that
are
going
to
be
going
on
the
area,
but
I
think
it'd
be
a
good
idea
to
put
the
signs
over
there
and
curtail
some
of
the
trucks
passing
through
there
on
a
daily
basis.
Thanks.
A
Approve
and
we
go
to
commission
comments,
mr
liquidus
and
police
chief,
young
and
major
trill-
I
want
to
thank
you
for
addressing
this
issue.
I've
been,
as
you
know,
be
receiving
complaints
from
from
the
residents,
and
they
were
very
concerned
about
that
and
thank
you
for
addressing
it.
Any
other
comments.
B
I
mean
this
is
a
no-brainer
to
respect
our
neighborhoods
here
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
complaints,
city
manager.
I
think
one
of
the
questions
that
you
brought
up
or
that
you've
expressed
to
me
that
we've
had
to
try
to
resolve
is
how
do
the
gps's
get
updated
in
the
android
system
with
google
and
apple
maps
has.
Y
Not
updated
they're
just
trying
to
the
city's
going
to
be
trying
to
reach
out
to
them
maps,
google
maps
and
all
those
things
to
advise
that
it's
not
a
truck
route.
So
they
know
ahead
of
time
because
a
lot
of
these
guys
don't
know
they
get
there
thinking
it's
the
shortest
way,
because
their
gps
brings
them
there
and
they
go
that
way.
O
Y
There's
a
new
change:
we
give
a
grace
period
where
we
get
out
there
and
do
enforcement
with
warnings,
and
then
we
start
issuing
citations.
Y
Officer
boone
has
worked
with
some
of
the
business
in
the
area
that
have
trucks
coming
there,
so
they
let
their
their
clients
know
that
if
they're
shipping
that
that's
not
a
route,
however,
when
it
goes
out
and
the
truck
driver
himself
doesn't
know,
that's
why
we
want
to
look
at
the
maps,
the
change
of
the
maps
yeah.
That's
a.
Q
I
do
I
wanted
to
mention
for
city
manager.
La
courses
benefit
chief
young's
got
a
pretty
good
team
that
addresses
these
problems.
Speeding,
we've
got
three
or
four
places
hot
spots
in
town
right
now,
and
between
chief
young
and
officer
boone
who's.
Here
in
the
back,
they
didn't
they
do
and
I'm
not
sure
who's
in
between
the
the
two
of
you,
but
you
do
an
excellent
job
in
in
in
getting
with
the
residents
and
listening
to
them
and
the
feedback.
I've
gotten
is
that
they
they
appreciate
it.
Q
Q
They
spoke
and
shared
their
observations,
and
our
police
department
was
very
receptive
to
what
they
were
having
to
say
and
they
came
up
with
a
solution,
and
I
just
hope
that
it'll
solve
a
lot
of
the
problems
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes
and
I'm
sure,
if
it's
not
quite
where
it
needs
to
be
chief
young,
will
be
making
some
additional
adjustments.
So
thank
you,
mayor.
A
Yes,
well,
we
finished
with
the
public.
Here
we
go
back
to
the
item
number
eight,
which
is
direction
issue
to
compelling
relocation
of
cable
company
cables
to
new
utility
poles.
Vice
mayor
car,
you
want
to
present
this
item.
B
Yeah
I
mean
this
one's
pretty
straightforward.
There's
some
pictures
in
the
backup,
as
well
too,
duke
energy
historically,
has
come
through
and
replaced
old
poles
that
need
to
be
replaced
for
whatever
reason,
due
to
age
due
to
structural
issues.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
all
the
reasons
are
and
then
they'll
leave.
B
B
The
board
is,
if
there's
any
interest,
because
I
believe
it's
our
duty
to
hold
the
utilities
if
it's
bright
or
spectrum,
if
it's
wow,
if
it's
verizon
or
fios,
whoever
may
be
utilizing
those
polls
that
they
should
be
moving
their
wires,
timely,
and
so
I
I
would
think
the
city
should
have
some
type
of
parameter
in
place
if
it's
90
days
from
notice
that
they
start
receiving
a
fine
similar
to
a
code
enforcement
situation
with
some
of
our
residents.
B
So
I
just
want
to
bring
us
up
to
see
if
this
there's
an
appetite
for
that
and
see
what
we
can
move
forward
with
a
little
more
research
from
our
city
attorney
and
maybe
putting
some
type
of
ordinance
together.
A
resolution.
K
A
Thank
you
well
vice
mayor.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
up
to
place
it
on
the
agenda
to
be
discussed.
A
I
agree
that
we
need
to
do
more
research
there
to
find
out
what
is
the
agreement
between
the
duke
energy
and
the
low
voltage
utilities,
and
what
is
the
process
for
them
to
transfer
the
low
voltage
cables,
which
is
like
the
cable
company,
the
cable
tv,
cable
and
their
drop
wires
from
the
all
pole,
to
the
new
pole,
and
and
also
who
has
the
responsibility
to
remove
the
all
pole
after
the
the
transfer,
the
cables?
That's
another
thing
that
we
need
to
find
out
after
we
do
the
research
find
out.
A
What
is
the
process?
Perhaps
our
city
attorney
can
call
the
public
service
commission
and
see
what
is
really
the
the
process
and
what
rights
do
we
have
as
a
city
of
that
particular
issue?
A
So
and
after
that
we
have
all
the
information.
I
think
we
should
have
some
kind
of
ordinance
based
on
the
information
that
we
received.
K
Thanks
mayor,
I
also
want
to
thank
the
thank
the
vice
mayor
for
bringing
this
up.
This
is
something
you
know
that
is
100
percent
our
responsibility
to
try
and
you
know
be
thinking
about
you
know
in
a
lot
of
cases,
we
utility
lines
in
excessive
polls
and
excessive
lines
can
can
definitely
be
perceived
as
eye
pollution.
K
So
thanks
for
bringing
it
to
our
attention
and
look
for
some
action
city
attorney,
I
saw
somewhere
in
your
memo
that
you,
I
believe
you
stated
somewhere
that,
based
on
your
your
limited
research
that,
after
you
know
duke,
does
whatever
they
do
to
the
poll
somewhere
along
the
line.
If
we
want
them
to
take
it
down,
they
offer
it
to
us
to
buy,
and
if
we
don't
buy
it,
then
it
becomes
their
responsibility
to
take
it
down.
Did
I
read
that
right.
U
So
so
the
answer
is
yes:
if
they
want
to
leave
their
equipment
in
place
and
we
want
them
to
leave
it
in
place,
we
would
have
to
pay
for
it.
So
I
don't
think
that
that's
really
the
direction
that
you
were
talking
about
tonight,
no.
K
I'm
just
saying
that's
the
process
right
so
so
to
further
that
thought.
If
we
don't
have
any,
if
the
process
is
hey,
we
want
it
gone.
Okay,
duke
duke
says
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Okay,
you
can
buy
it
and
then
we
say:
okay,
we
don't
want
to
buy
it.
Then
it
becomes
their
responsibility.
To
take
it
down.
Is
that
more
or
less
right.
U
It's
they're,
duke
energy
polls,
there's
no
question
about
that:
they're,
ultimately
responsible
for
those
polls.
They
more
than
likely
have
a
poll
agreement
with
these
other
utilities
to
use
the
polls.
We
don't
know
what
those
agreements
provide,
but
more
than
likely
there's
something
in
that
agreement.
Where
duke
can
force
the
cable
companies
to
move
their
equipment,
and
so
the
the
memo
was.
U
Basically,
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
deeper
dive
into
that,
but
I
think
that
the
starting
point
would
be
to
get
those
poll
agreements
and
so,
if
there's
direction
from
the
commission,
I
would
be
able
then
to
go
to
duke
energy
and
say
hey.
The
commission
is
requesting
this
information
and
that's
really
the
starting
point.
We're
looking
for.
K
Okay,
yeah,
let
me
just
that
sounds
good,
but
let
me
just
tell
you
kind
of
my
train
of
thought
on
that.
If,
if
it
ends
up
being
like
a
noticing
thing
right,
where
nothing
happens
until
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
says
we
don't
want
the
polls,
then
I
think
that
you
know
this
commission,
the
next
commission,
whatever
should
initiate
that
process
right,
we
don't
have
any
desire
to
buy
the
polls
and
if
that's
how
the
process
starts
with
us
giving
notice,
then
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
give
notice.
K
You
know-
and
I
understand
you
have
a
lot
more
research
to
do
on
this,
but
if
it's
a
pr,
if
it's
a
procedural
thing
and
a
time
frame
thing
to
give
notice
before
anything
happens,
then
you
know
we
need
to
be
progressive
in
giving
that
notice,
because
if
nothing
happens
until
then,
then
nothing's
going
to
happen.
So
that's
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Q
K
Q
Get
a
notice
yeah,
I
I
mean
I've
watched
I've
watched
these
polls
go
in
and
I've
talked
to
some
of
the
the
the
utility
men
and
and
basically
it's
a
real,
convoluted
mixed
area
with
the
other
utilities,
cable
and
everything
and
and
and
it
it
I'm
just
not
sure
I
mean
I'd
like
to
proceed
with
the
ordinance.
That's
not
an
issue,
but
it's
just
such
a
complicated
area.
The
one
thing
I
I
in
picking
up
with
what
commissioner
tarapani
said.
Q
I
know
some
of
our,
like
mr
makris
has
had
some
good
luck,
working
with
duke
energy,
when
we've
had
to
move
some
of
these
utility
poles
around
that
actually
newly
installed
ones
when
they
were
just
awkwardly
placed
and
he
got
them
to
move
them.
Have
we
actually
talked
to
duke
energy
about
this
at
all
city
manager?
Of
course,
do
you
know.
L
I
I
think
they're
talked,
I
think
tom
is
involved
with
a
lot
of
talking
with
him
on
these,
and
you
know
when
we
see
the
polls
still
sitting
there.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
him
to
elaborate
his
experience
or
not.
Q
Okay,
no
that's
good!
I
feel
a
little
better
than
about
proceeding
with
an
ordinance
that
we've
actually
had
some
sometimes.
U
A
Have
fun
with
this
one
so
we'll
get
it
done
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
trusk.
I
I'll
recommend
that
you're
getting
in
touch
with
the
public
service
commission,
because
they're
controlling
the
the
utility
companies,
not
only
the
the
power
company
but
the
low
voltage
utilities
as
well,
and
also
just
everybody,
to
know
that
the
low
voltage
companies
that
pay
rent
to
the
electric
company
for
using
the
polls.
A
Okay,
we
need
abortion
to
give
direction
to
staff
and
the
ceo
attorney
we.
A
So
do
you
do
we
need
to
include
that
into
the
motion?
U
U
A
Y
Sure,
commissioner
vaticude
has
kind
of
alluded
to
tony
boone.
I
want
to
publicly
state
that
the
action
team
that
he's
part
of
is
doing
an
excellent
job.
I
just
wrote
them
an
email
today
advising
him
that
they're,
like
utility
players,
so
they
play
every
position.
Y
These
gentlemen
work
under
ed
miller,
sergeant
and
tony
boone
do
a
fantastic
job.
They
work
on
criminal
investigations,
assisting
patrol
and
detectives.
They
work
on
traffic.
They
work
on
traffic
surveys,
traffic
studies,
redoing
crosswalks,
graffiti
quality
of
life
issues,
complaints
that
come
in
and
they
are
basically
one
of
my
right-hand
guys
that
I
go
to
for
almost
everything.
So
you
name
it.
So
I
want
to
tell
them
publicly
they've
done
a
great
job,
tony's,
not
here
right
now,
but
both
of
those
guys
and
we're
adding
more
to
them.
Y
A
L
L
I
mean
they
even
caught
some
of
the
troubled
roosters
at
the
sponge
docks
on
the
complaint,
so
whatever
the
citizen
complaint
traffic,
other
things
you
put
officer,
boone
sergeant
miller
and
their
unit
on
it,
and
they
get
it
done,
and
they've
they've
done
a
lot
of
things
that
you
haven't
seen
and
heard
about
from
resident's
complaints
that
haven't
got
to
you
yet
and
they
take
care
of
it
before
you
even
know
about
it.
So
again,
it's
one
of
the
best
teams
that
I've
seen
in
my
time
here.
L
B
I'll
continue
with
that
comment
about
officer
boone
and
the
team,
it's
one
of
the
things
that
I've
reported
a
lot
of
graffiti
over
the
past
couple
years
and
they're
on
it
like
the
next
day
and
cleaning
it
up,
and
it's
something
I'm
proud
of,
that
our
officers
are
hands
on,
aren't
afraid
to
get
dirty
and
are
jumping
out
of
their
trucks
and
cars
to
fix
stuff
and
get
stuff
done.
So
I
I
really
appreciate
everything
your
team's
doing
over
there
major
and
keep
up
the
great
work.
Thank
you
thank.
A
Commissioners,
no
comments:
okay,
well,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
our
police
department
for
the
final
report
we
received
from
the
florida
law
enforcement
accreditation
as
assessment
team.
A
The
assessment
team
has
recommended
our
police
department
to
receive
the
regulation
again
as
we
do
every
three
years
and
it's
an
it's
an
honor
for
for
the
city
and
I'm
very
proud
that
our
staff
at
the
police
department-
they
do
such
a
great
job
and
being
recognized
by
the
state,
major
trill.
If
you
please
give
my
thanks
to
everyone
at
the
police
department,
absolutely
thank
you.
A
We
also
have
some
good
news
to
share
street
mango
street
is
now
open,
it's
been
paved
and
it's
been
ready
to
be
used
by
our
city
residents
and
I'd
like
to
express
my
appreciation
to
our
project
manager,
team,
mr
robinson
and
his
department,
for
doing
an
excellent
job
and
make
this
project
to
work.
So,
mr
le
curtis,
if
you
please
express
our
appreciation
to.
L
To
be
done
on
the
road
sidewalk,
some
other
things,
but
it
won't
affect
it-
won't
block
off
traffic
anymore.
There
may
be
some
one
lane
traffic,
so
there's
still
some
finishing
up
work
to
do,
but
the
road
is
substantially
complete
and
open
and
we'll
be
working
on
the
rest
of
the
items
and
hopefully
don't
have
another
road
closure.
A
A
E
C
L
Yes,
while
tom's
function
is
coming
up,
we
came
to
you
and
the
board
approved
the
purchase
of
four
the
statues.
I
don't
believe
I
forgot
to
check
with
janina.
L
Two
of
them
came
in
pretty
much
in
the
time
frame,
but
we
knew
that
two
of
the
statues
were
going
to
be
delayed
were
going
to
be
here,
so
it
was
directed
by
the
board
of
commissioners
to
bring
this
back
to
have
the
board
approve
the
location
so
I'll
turn
it
over
with
tom
and
in
the
back
up
sees
the
recommended
locations
and
we'll
get
input
from
the
board
before
we
make
the
final
and
we'll
probably
install
the
ones
that
are
here
if
they're
ones,
not
here,
we'll
install
them
when
they
arrive
tom,
you
want
to
talk
about
the
location.
S
S
The
one
at
the
that
cornered
live
oak
in
safford
avenue
would
actually
be
a
good
cycle.
No
one
would
be
enjoyed
by
people
walking
it's
also
a
visual
cycling
up
in
to
and
from
the
docks.
I
thought
that
was
a
pretty
cool
spot.
S
The
other
one
was
a
dog
at
the
corner
of
the
dog,
and
a
little
boy
playing
at
the
corner
of
lemon
street
in
safford
avenue
would
be
on
the
northwest
corner
and
the
last
but
not
least,
is
the
turtle
which
will
be
down
by
mirrors
boulevard
at
the
at
the
emirates
intersection
I
figured
there
was
water
over
there.
Turtles
go
like
to
go
back
and
forth
the
water,
so
that
was
my
thinking
about,
because
I'm
open
to
any
suggestions
you
may
have.
W
Anita
frozen,
I
don't
want
bay
shore
drive.
Why
do
we
have
a
public
arts
committee?
They
should
be
involved
with
this
too.
We
have
a
good
board.
We
have
a
good
program
going
and
I
would
like
to
suggest
these
things
when
you
buy
these
the
place
to
have
a
discussion
with
them,
don't
override
them,
they're
very
bright
people
and
they've
been
around
and
they've
seen
public
art
like
this,
where
it
goes.
W
The
second
thing
is:
all
of
these
on
here:
have
boards
your
historic
preservation
board.
You
know
for
city
parking.
What
is
it
where
it
is?
No
matter
where
it
is
in
the
city
mayor,
it's
historic:
we
have
historic
districts,
you
need
to
talk
to
them
and
get
input
the
diagonal
parking.
I
would
like
to
hear
what
the
police
say
about
traffic
with
this
parking.
There's
nothing
in
backup
back
here
tonight
and
the
beautification.
W
W
Mrs
jennings
and
her
board
have
done
excellent
work
throughout
the
community
and
at
the
docks,
and
they
have
people
that
have
traveled
a
lot
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
police
think
on
this
parking
the
garage.
We
have
to
be
careful
of
our
historic
districts
here
and
a
design,
and
we
have
to
decide
how
do
we
want
our
art
in
this
community?
W
Our
beautification.
Do
you
want
victorian
style?
Do
you
want
another
old
style,
there's
so
many
things
that
we
can
do
to
bring
it
all
together
and
not
have
something
over
here,
something
on
the
other
side
of
town
that
doesn't
match
it's
like
redecorating,
your
home,
you
bring
it
all
together,
so
it
works
together
and
brings
beauty
to
the
community
instead
of
just
going.
I'm
not
saying
you
were
wrong
function
because
I
support
you
100,
but
we
need
to
use
these
boards
and
let
them
look
at
it
and
give
their
ideas
and
recommendations.
E
N
I
find
myself
agreeing
with
anita
on
almost
everything
as
well
from
my
understanding.
There
was
a
letter
from
the
chair
of
the
public
arts
committee
wondering
if
it
was
actually
legal
or
not
a
violation
of
the
public
art
ordinance
to
place
these
things.
I
haven't
heard
a
a
resolution
of
that
yet
accordingly,
apparently,
the
public
art
ordinance,
29
bracket,
6
to
exercise
their
authority
to
approve,
approve
with
conditions
or
disapprove
proposed
installation
of
artwork
based
on
public
art
program
guidelines
is
written
into
their
their
charter.
E
AA
Good
evening,
jackie
turner,
792
chesapeake
drive
count
me
as
number
three.
I
am
concerned
too
we're
not
engaging
the
public
art
committee
on
this
they're
trying
to
establish
a
unified
plan
and
approach
to
public
art.
We
have
a
lot
of
very
talented
people,
including
an
internationally
recognized
artist
on
our
public
arts
committee.
Let's
hear
what
they
have
to
say.
I'm
just
afraid
is
this
a
responsible
use
of
time
and
resources
and
again
we're
looking
at
the
issue
which
we've
brought
up
before
of
art
versus
decor.
I
Good
evening,
mike
eisner
1515
riverside
drive
not
sure
if
I'm
number
four
or
five
or
six,
but
I'm
gonna
go
along
with
this.
I
sat
here
and
I
listened
to
the
board
of
commissioners-
explain
how
time
just
goes
on
and
on
and
on.
I
don't
know
why
you
guys
are
deciding
on
this
again.
This
is
a
public
art
decision.
I
don't
know
why
we're
discussing
where
statues
should
go,
there's
no
way
to
run
an
airline.
A
L
U
So
you
have
a
code
section,
I
believe
is
303.00.
That
specifically
says
that
the
recommendations
of
the
our
public
arts
committee
with
regard
to
location
will
always
be
approved
by
you.
So
ultimately,
you
all
will
always
make
this
decision,
whether
you
have
their
input
or
not.
So
it
is
absolutely
appropriate
for
you
to
make
that
determination.
If
you
want
input
from
them,
obviously
you
can
send
it
back
to
get
input,
but
you
ultimately
determine
the
location.
K
You,
mr
attorney,
in
other
words,
if
the
public
art
committee
came
before
us
and
said
hey,
these
are
where
we'd
like
to
put
these
statues.
We
ratify
that
correct.
U
B
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
couple
comments.
I
mean
the
turtle
makes
sense
where
it's
at
and
just
to
reiterate
for
this
the
public.
That's
here
that's
for
their
edification
is
that
this
did
go
to
public
art
committee.
They
kicked
it
back
to
us
that
they're
not
interested
in
these
types
of
statues.
It's
within
the
cra
budget,
so
it's
outside
of
the
public
art
funds.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
of
how
funding
works
within
the
city,
public
art
funds,
work
from
development
or
dollars
that
go
to
the
public
art
committee.
B
Another
thing
that
they've
expressed
concerns
about
at
their
meetings
too
recently
is
the
amount
of
things
that
are
outside
of
their
preview
within
public
art.
So
we've
got
a
great
well
I've.
I
don't
disagree.
We've
got
a
great
group
of
people
on
that
public
art
board,
but
basically,
what
I've
heard
in
the
past
is
that
this
is
something
they
weren't
interested
in.
Although
the
the
chair
did
mention
that
she
wants
to
to
have
some
type
of
voice
in
it,
I
mean
our
cra
funds
purchased
by
cra
dollars.
It's
something!
B
B
There
is
something
on
that
same
block
with
with
I
forget
what
it's
called
story
time
by
glenna
goodacre
on
ultra19,
and
I
just
thought
the
dogs
would
serve
better
both
at
the
dog
park,
and
that
was
kind
of
my
thought
where
I
thought
where
most
of
the
statues
are
going
to
go
in
the
north
side
of
the
cra,
regardless
I'm
happy
to
support
them,
because
I
think
it's
good
to
get
some
type
of
art
in
there.
B
If
there's
any
opportunity
for
the
public
art
to
actually
work
on
additional
statues
or
sings
along
those
lines
with
the
medians,
as
you
come
into
the
sponge
docs,
either
on
live
oak
or
along
the
bike
trail
or
on
pinellas
avenue
or
tarpon
avenue,
to
complement
these
additional
items
that
are
out
there
as
well
too.
So
I
mean
I
would
like
to
see
the
boy
and
the
dog
be
at
the
dog
park
with
the
other.
I
forget,
I
think
his
name's
scotch
the
big
dog
statue
other
than
that
I
think
they're.
F
Q
There's
there's
a
lot
I
can
say
it
boils
down
to
the
process
and-
and
you
know
the
bottom
line
is:
if
you
can't
get
it
through
the
public
art
committee,
then
you
come
back
and
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it
through
the
city,
commission
and
it's
not
just
the
location.
I
don't
think
that
the
public
art
committee
was
very
supportive
of
these.
To
begin
with,
I
didn't
support
them.
I
know
we've
talked
about
establishing
priorities.
Q
I
think
that
counts
for
the
cra.
The
one
comment
I
got
from
a
business
owner
in
town
just
yesterday.
He
says
you
mean
the
commission
can't
find
anything
to
do
with
the
money
that
we're
spending
on
these
things
in
the
cra
other
than
buying
these
things-
and
I
said
you're
talking
to
the
wrong
guy
about
that.
I,
how
much
do
they
cost
mr
function,
just
for
the
record
for
the
four
of
them
I'd.
Q
Basically,
what
I
told
the
the
business
owner-
I
really
don't
have
anything
nice
to
say
about
the
statue,
so
I'm
not
going
to
say
anything.
I
wasn't
supportive
of
them.
I
just
think
that
we're
we're,
like
I
said,
we're
just
going
around
the
public
art
committee
and
I
don't
care
for
that
at
all.
So
thank
you,
mayor.
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments,
no
well.
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
I
like
to
see
the
art
community
to
be
involved
in
the
process,
and
I
mean
it's
always
nice
to
have
statue
that
will
beautify
the
city,
but
I
think
you
know
the
reason
we
select
them
to
be
advisory
board
to
provide
us
with
advice.
A
Okay,
we
have
motion
and
the
second
world
cup
list.
P
B
B
A
U
U
U
So
you're
asking
if
it
can
be
come
back
as
a
motion
for
reconsideration.
The
answer
is
no,
it
would
have
to
be
someone
on
the
yeah.
If
you
vote,
no,
you
would
be
on
the
prevailing
side
if
the
motion
fails.
So
if
that's
an
it
answers
your
question
yeah
it
does.
You
have
to
be
on
the
prevailing
side
of.
U
So
under
reconsideration
there
has
to
be
a
motion
that
can
be
made
by
someone
on
the
prevailing
side.
Since
this
was
a
0-4
vote,
the
prevailing
side
would
be
that
it
failed,
so
any
one
of
you
can
bring
it
back.
You
would
either
bring
it
back
at
this
meeting
or
the
next
immediate.
Following
meeting
at
your
next
cra
meeting,.
A
B
A
B
K
K
My
point
being
you
know,
art
can
be
art,
regardless
of
whether
it's
quote:
unquote,
production,
art
or
not
so,
but
the
vice
mayor
said
that
the
public
art
committee
basically
stepped
aside
from
this
because
they
didn't
want
to
participate
and
if
that's
the
truth,
which
I'm
not
saying
it's
not,
but
I
just
don't
remember
it.
If
that's
the
truth
and
they
didn't
want
to
participate
in
this
and
let's
say
that
they
still
don't
want
to
participate
in
it.
B
U
Q
Yes,
I
was
just
going
to
mention
I
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
whether
they
approve
the
artwork
or
not.
Is
that
so
it
wouldn't
conflict
with
any
of
their
plans
just
to
see
where
they
were
being
presented
and
have
a
discussion
about
it.
It
you
know
whether
they
approve
this
specific
art
or
not.
There's
a
history
to
this,
and-
and
I
I
don't
recall
all
of
it,
but
I
do
know
that
they're
very
sensitive
to
the
location
of
our
work
and
how
it
how
it
works
and
with
what
their
plans
are.
Q
Q
E
A
B
Yeah,
so
we've
discussed
this
multiple
times
the
board
over.
Since
I've
been
on
the
board
for
five
years
to
say
it's
come
up
multiple
times.
I
do
think
it's.
We
need
to
give
the
city
manager
more
firm
direction
on
where
to
look.
B
He
could
give
you
an
update
on
the
tour
property.
I
think
it's
a
local
attorney's
office
that
is
right
next
to
the
city
lot
and
the
wells
fargo
lot
sits
in
the
middle
of
that
and
it's
cross
street
from
the
public
library
there's
a
couple
other
spots
highlighted
in
the
map.
Obviously,
that
would
probably
be
the
best
location
to
look
at
a
parking
garage
to
serve
downtown
to
serve
craig
park
area
when
events
are
happening
and
also
to
help
with
public
parking
for
the
library
too,
and
also
service
the
trail
with
that
I'll.
B
Let
him
give
them
the
give
the
update,
but
then
there's
also
a
second
piece
of
property
on
lemon
street
across
the
street
from
the
old
bakery.
It's
a
bunch
of
empty.
It's
just
empty
land
right
now
and
I
believe,
there's
an
individual
that
owns
it.
That's
here
locally,
and
he
did
express
some
interest
in
doing
some
type
of
partnership
with
the
city.
B
B
So
the
the
two
areas
and
I'll.
Let
staff
confirm
this,
but
the
two
areas
that
look
that
make
the
most
sense,
I
think,
to
look
at
were
the
latour
property
that
butts
to
the
the
city
parking
lot
and
then,
obviously
across
the
street,
that
I
mentioned
on
east
lemon
street,
that's
across
from
the
old
bakery
and
next
to
christopher
stills,
studio
between
that
and
the
public
housing
authority's
property.
B
A
Z
595
peninsula
avenue.
I
want
to
thank
commissioner
carr
for
hijacking
the
community
redevelopment
agency
and
making
it
the
car
redevelopment
agency.
We've
seen
he's
done
dictator
tendencies
right
now.
The
public
arts
committee
wants
nothing
to
do
with
these
projects,
but
yet
he
continues
to
try
to
push
this
stuff
through.
We
need
unique
art
to
tarpon
springs,
it
doesn't
matter.
If
you
pay
three
four
five
times
the
amount
it
needs
to
be
structured
towards
our
city.
Z
Z
So
let's
try
to
work
together
to
find
a
spot
in
town
where
or
at
least
the
sponge
docks,
where
we
can
rent
an
area-
maybe
twenty
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year
just
like
we
did
with
those
two
parking
areas
right
next
to
the
flagship
that
way
we
can
balance
parking
for
both
of
our
busiest
areas
and,
let's
listen
to
these
advisory
boards.
Z
Let's
try
to
do
what
we
can
to
encourage
businesses
to
come
into
town,
something
try
to
try
to
encourage
a
nightlife.
If
you
don't
have
a
nightlife
in
downtown
tarpon,
you
don't
need
a
parking
garage
and
you
don't
need
a
parking
garage
for
one
day
out
the
month.
It's
a
big
expense
and
the
community.
The
community
needs
to
help
redevelop
and
not
just
a
couple.
People
who
control
the
community
redevelop
an
agency.
Thank
you.
W
W
W
We
need
to
wait
until
we
finish
this
program
and
see
what's
happening
and
what
we
can
do
to
improve
life
in
tarpon
springs
with
people
buying
this
property,
buying
these
homes
and
being
able
to
walk
the
10-minute,
walk
the
15-minute
walk
and
then
look
and
see
what
we're
going
to
do
with
all
this
parking.
Please
give
us
some
time
board
members
of
mayor
to
fulfill
and
complete
this
study,
so
we'll
know
what
we're
doing.
W
There's
one
development-
that's
absolutely
beautiful!
That
would
work
very
well
in
tarpon
and
I'm
going
to
bring
it
to
the
city
manager
because
they're
they're
cottages
on
a
large
amount
of
property.
You
can
get
six
of
these
cottages
there
and
they're
affordable
for
people
to
live
in
they're
beautiful
and
it's
like
it's
like
an
apartment
complex,
but
it
doesn't
look
like
it
and
it
is
looks
like
historic
homes.
W
It's
something
new
and
I
just
wish
we'd
wait
until
these
plans
are
finished
and
they're
adopted,
comprehensive
plan,
and
all
of
that
so
we'll
know
what
we're
doing,
instead
of
making
it
a
little
bit
here
a
little
bit
there
and
nothing
combines
to
bring
the
beauty
to
our
community
and
there's
people
downtown
that
are
investing
a
lot
of
money
in
these
buildings.
They're
fixing
them
up.
Let's
wait
and
see
what
happens.
W
AA
Jackie
turner,
792
chesapeake
drive,
perhaps
there's
an
opportunity
to
look
at
a
bit
of
a
compromise
here.
I
love
what
we're
doing
with
leasing
the
space
at
the
flagship
bank,
the
property
behind
that
that
is
a
great
utilization
of
services
for
a
relatively
minimal
cost.
Can
we
talk
to
mr
latour
about
maybe
a
lease
option
for
these
spaces,
because
that
area
is
increasing
and
as
we're
looking
at
continuing
development
along
that
stafford
corridor
along
the
the
trail
corridor?
Maybe
before
we
jump
in
and
actually
purchase
the
property?
AA
I
Good
evening,
mike
geisler
1515
riverside
drive,
sometimes
it's
scary
when
I
come
up
here
and
agree
with
anita
completely,
but
this
one
I
agree
with
anita
completely.
I
mean
we're
doing
a
comp
plan
strategic
plan.
I
don't
know
why
we
are
going
to
do
a
projects
like
any
of
these
that
are
on
here
without
knowing
where
we're
headed.
I
I
spoke
with
somebody
on
first
friday,
she
was
looking
for
places
to
come
and
stay
whether
it
would
be
tarpon
all
the
way
down
to
fort
myers.
I
One
of
the
comments
she
made
to
me
was
that
we
have
a
zoning
mishmash
and
I
tried
to
explain
to
her
that
you
know
the
zoning
is
going
to
be
corrected
and
we're
not
going
to
have
that
mishmash
anymore,
where
there's
a
big
house
along
with
what
she
classified
a
dump.
These
were
her
comments
and
I
tried
to
circumvent
that
those
comments,
but
we
can't
go
ahead
and
make
plans
without
knowing
where
we're
going.
I
B
This
item
I'll
make
a
motion
to
recommend
the
city
attorney
to
work
on
continuing
to
work
on
a
garage
option
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Looking
at
the
tour
property
as
primary
number
one.
Looking
at
the
a
mixed
use
option
as
number
two
with
the
business
owner
off
east
lemon
street,
with
a
private
public
partnership.
K
B
Yeah
I
mean
I've
got
a
couple
comments
to
make.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
five
plus
years
since
I've
been
on
the
board,
studies
have
been
brought
up
in
public
comment
multiple
times
and
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
studies
from
20
years
ago,
you're
going
to
find
parking
garages
in
this
area.
So
if
we're
waiting
for
a
study
to
tell
us,
we
need
a
parking
garage,
there's
already
studies
20
years
ago.
That
say
we
need
a
parking
garage.
I'm.
K
K
B
A
E
B
B
We've
had
candidates
coming
up
and
accusing
us
that
it's
a
single-person
board,
there's
five
of
us
on
the
board,
we're
represented
by
the
residents
to
represent
the
cra.
So
that's
part
of
our
par
part
of
our
task
to
bring
up
ideas,
bring
up
different
things
that
go
on.
So,
if
you're
elected,
please
understand
that
you've
you're
tasked
with
coming
up
with
different
ideas,
there's
a
significant
budget
that
we're
budgeting
here.
For
this
there's
a
demand
for
parking
in
the
in
the
historic
district.
There's
demand
for
parking
in
the
downtown
area.
B
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
mean
we
do
I
don't
know
what
would
be
best
if
it
would
be
a
200
by
200
or
100,
by
100
or
300
by
300
or
two
stories
or
three
stories
or
having
apartments
on
top
or
parking
downstairs
or
mixed
use,
with
private
partnership
with
a
local
investor
so
that
yes,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
would
be
best
for
staff
to
do
that.
But
we
haven't
seen
anything
from
staff.
L
I
do
you
saw
my
button.
Yes,
you
usually
ignore
it,
but
so
first
of
all,
this
board
doesn't
have
to
give
me
direction
on
seeking
the
parking
part
at
both
the
downtown
and
the
docks.
You
have
given
me
a
standing
order
that
has
not
been
rescinded
and
I
didn't
bring
it
up
when
we
talked
about
the
docks,
because
the
meeting
was
gone,
but
here's
my
standing
order
to
look
at
places
for
additional
parking,
like
the
one
that
took
about
a
year
to
negotiate
that
we
just
approved
at
both
the
downtown
and
the
docks.
L
I
think
mr
maverimaster's
brother
can
tell
you
that
one
of
his
pieces
of
property
that
the
docks
I
inquired
about
and
they
had
different
ideas
about
development.
So,
while
I
don't
always
get
with
you,
if
a
piece
of
property
is
there,
I
do
talk
to
the
people,
and
that
was
one
just
to
give
an
example.
That
can
be
confirmed
that
I
do
look
at
areas
at
the
docks.
Also,
as
far
as
the
downtown
goes,
we
have
always
staff
wise.
I
know
you
have
talked
to
the
commission
and
some
of
you
about
parking
garage.
L
We
look
at
it
as
parking,
for
instance
the
latour
property.
If
we
got
it
and
we
tore
it
down,
there
would
be
a
substantial
number
of
street
parking
there,
which
would
be
step
one
step
two,
which
is
a
lot
more
elaborate,
is
the
financing
and
the
configuration
of
a
garage.
So
so
we
have
been
looking
at
that
property
from
both
angles,
and
I
know
it
was
mentioned.
We
have
also
had
discussion
and
I've
got
karen
here
if
you
want
to
go
into
karen's
been
heavily
involved
in
talking
with
mr
latour.
L
I
believe
you've
talked
to
mr
gourmet
about
that
other
piece
of
parking,
or
it's
at
least,
identified
on
our
list
as
a
possible
option.
Mr
gourmet's
portion,
but
we've
also
tried
to
get
mr
latour
to
to
to
lease
that
back,
there's
already
18
approximately,
maybe
16,
to
18
spaces
in
the
back.
I
think
his
comments
were
well.
L
He
doesn't
stop
the
park,
the
public
from
parking
there,
but
in
these
days
of
people
towing
for
everything,
we
thought
it
would
be
good
to
get
for
to
get
the
city
to
have
it
under
lease
to
pay
the
insurance
on
it.
To
put
a
sign
up
saying,
it
was
a
municipal,
so
those
discussions
are
still
going
on
about
the
spaces
that
already
exist
in
the
back
of
of
mr
letour's
office.
L
But
in
this
case,
if
you
wanted
to
go
look
at
the
study
of-
and
it
might
be
a
little
hard
if
we
don't
have
the
property
to
do
so,
what
property
we're
studying
about
a
parking
garage?
I'm
not
I'm
looking
for
parking
and
we're
actively
looking
and
again
if
you
need
any
on
on
the
properties,
especially
dealing
with
mr
la
tour
and
what
his
talk
of
within
the
last
week
of
where
mr
letour's
had
I've
got
karen
here
to
relay
that
to
you.
If
you,
if
you
so
seek
mayor
in
the
board,.
A
Of
course,
we
gave
mr
le
cares,
as
mr
lecrez
mentioned,
that
we
gave
him
a
direction
to
keep
looking
for
parking,
not
know
from
not
only
for
now,
but
for
the
future
as
well,
and
that
was,
if
you
remember,
we
had
set
our
goals
and
objectives,
and
that
was
one
of
our
goals
that
in
for
the
future,
we
must
have
more
parking.
Also,
let's
remember
that
the
goal
that
we
have
it's,
including
down
at
the
sponge,
docks
because
there
there
are
more,
they
need
parking.
A
We
have
been
we're
doing
very
well
for
parking
in
downtown,
but
we're
doing
not
as
good
down
at
the
sponge
dock,
so
we
need
to
do
better
down
there.
I
know
mr
lacrosse
has
been
looking
for
places
looking
for
parking
looking
for
a
real
estate
that
we
can
actually
buy,
but
at
this
time
I
have
a
many
discussion
with
mr
lakers
about
that.
A
He
advised
me
that
at
this
time
is
nothing
available
to
purchase,
so
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to.
We
must
continue
on
and
the
discussion
that
I
have
mr
licoria
says
that
mr
letter
will
be
ready
to
offer
his
property
to
the
city
in
couple
years.
So
by
then
we
have
the
comprehensive
plan
ready
to
go
and
we
have
a
direction
which
way
to
go
with
that.
E
Q
A
couple
of
things
I
I'm
not
sure
of
the
motion,
I
know
it's
to
prove
to
move
forward
and
there
were
locations
cited.
So
you
know
you
might
understand.
If
one
site
doesn't
work
out,
we
move
to
the
second
to
the
third,
I'm
I'm
not.
Q
Q
Well,
we
we've
had
discussions
of
this
before
and
my
recollection
as
far
as
an
approach
was
one
to
be
patient
and
number
two
was
basically
the
way
the
city
manager
la
course
described
it
in
terms
of
how
to
approach
parking
in
a
parking
garage.
I
don't
disagree
with
a
parking
garage.
I
don't,
but
we
do
have
a
plan
in
the
process.
Q
So
I'm
not
sure
what
how
mr
la
course
would
conduct
this
study
to
figure
out
any
kind
of
an
analysis
on
a
garage
unless
he
looks
at
these
two
properties
and-
and
we
know
we're
not
going
to
get
mr
latour's
property
in
a
couple
of
years,
so
it
doesn't
even
make
any
sense
to
look
at
that
one.
If
we're
talking
about
doing
things
now,
then
it
would
automatically
go
to
number
two,
and
I
I
just
okay.
Q
Let's
say
we
put
all
of
our
eggs
in
one
basket
on
that
one
and
all
of
a
sudden,
mr
latour
decides
he
wants
to
sell
his
property.
I
think
we
just
need
to
stay
the
course
for
right
now.
It's
also
a
doll,
a
matter
of
dollars
versus
priorities.
We
again,
you
know
we
haven't
established
any
priorities.
We've
got
two
plans,
one
is
the
comp
plan,
that's
going
to
identify
the
needs
and
deficiencies
and
then
the
strategic
plan
that's
going
to
identify
what
the
priorities
are.
Q
So
we
can
integrate
the
two
together
and
see
how
we
can
move
forward.
We've
only
got
so
much
money,
we've
got
the.
I
think
it's
february.
15Th
is
your
town,
hall,
meeting
city
manager,
of
course,
where
all
of
this
is
going
to
be
discussed
as
far
as
the
covet
money,
along
with
whatever
plans,
we
would
come
up
with
with
the
former
hoffman
sunday
property.
Q
K
I
want
to
start
out
by
saying
that
I
think
that
city
staff
and
the
city
manager
have
done
an
excellent
job
since
they
received
direction
from
us
not
long
ago
on
this
two
different
pieces
of
property
have
been
leased
successfully
for
parking.
One
has
been
kind
of
revamped
and
looks
exceptionally
nice,
so
my
thinking
is
is
that
we
are
moving
in
the
right
direction.
This
on
this.
Do
I
think
that
a
parking
garage
is
necessary.
Yes,
do
I
know
that
it
takes
time
to
plan
and
strategize
and
develop
absolutely.
K
I
think,
that's
why
the
vice
mayor's
heart
is
in
the
good
place,
as
he
has
brought
this
back
up
to
try
and
keep
the
ball
rolling,
because
it
does
take
time.
You
know
my
thinking
would
be
to
also
kind
of
steady
the
course
it
would
be
ideal
for
me
if
we
could
get
some
form
of
a
of
a
formal
agreement
on
the
bank
parking
lots.
K
Analyze
other
pieces
of
property
right
like
if
you
have
a
piece
that
we
know
is
too
small,
then
that
for
a
parking
garage,
then
that's
just
off
the
board
and
we
can
move
on
to
the
next.
If
you
look
at
this
legend
that
was
provided
to
us,
I
could
tell
you
four
or
five
pieces
of
property
that
are
potential
for
parking
that
are
not
potential
for
parking.
I
know
that
to
be
true,
so
you
know,
I
think,
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
K
While
that's
going
to
be
a
great
document
and
it
has
been
in
the
past,
a
lot
of
that
information
is
going
to
be
regenerated
is
going
to
be
the
same
information
that
we
already
have
today.
I
can
tell
you
that
all
of
the
land
that's
identified
in
this
special
area
plan
being
that
it's
in
the
special
area
plan
we
already
have
more
or
less
a
comprehensive
plan
of
the
special
area
plan.
It's
only
about
10
years
old.
K
K
Let's
move
forward
continue
to
try
and
release
stuff,
mr
la
chorus,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
productive
to
have
a
better
idea
of
what
kind
of
dimensional
criteria
for
a
potential
parking
lot
or
parking
garage
would
be
better
for
us
to
analyze.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
And
in
closing
I
like
to
say
that
our
staff,
mr
lakers,
is
doing
an
excellent
job
looking
for
properties
everywhere
and
if
an
opportunity
we
gave
a
direction
to
keep
looking
for
any
any
property
that
will
be.
A
You
know
it
can
be
used
for
parking
if
mr
lakers
finds
something
that
it's
an
opportunity
for
that,
I'm
sure
he'll
bring
it
to
the
commission
for
discussion
and
for
approval.
So
I'm
not
honestly,
I'm
not
in
a
hurry
to
afford
to
get
any
more
parking
in
downtown
at
this
time,
but
I
will
encourage
that
we
do
a
better
job
for
the
sponge
ducks
because
they
need
it
very
desperately.
A
P
A
Okay,
we're
now
going
to
iron
number
three,
which
is
the
cra
conversion
of
tarpon
springs.
Excuse
me,
tarpon
having
you
to
parallel
and
diagonal
parking
and
vice
mayoral
car.
B
Yeah
thanks
mayor,
I
want
to
bring
up
something
that
was
brought
up
a
couple
years
back.
Some
business
owners
have
talked
to
me
about
this
in
the
past
about
moving
from
parallel
parking
to
diagonal
parking.
B
We
discussed
it
a
couple
budget
seasons
ago
right
before
covid
was
happy
right
when
coveted
was
happening
and
it
was
disgusting
as
a
board.
That
was
a
somewhat
of
a
good
idea,
but
we
should
probably
pause
it
because
we
don't
know
what
covid
was
going
to
happen.
We
didn't
know
what
impact
it
was
going
to
happen
to
businesses
and
what
that
would
look
like,
as
you
can
see.
In
the
back
up
too,
I've
provided
some
historical
photos
of
some
diagonal
parking
along
tarpon
avenue.
B
I've
also
experienced
parking
diagonal
park.
I'm
sorry
parking
parallel
on
tarpon
avenue,
I'm
able
to
do
it,
but
it's
I've
watched
a
lot
of
people
really
struggle
with
this
and
then,
when
you
open
your
doors,
you've
got
cars
going
35-40
miles
per
hour
when
you're
opening
your
doors
try
and
get
in
and
out
of
your
car.
B
I
believe
that's
a
dangerous
situation,
that's
something
that
I've
asked
our
city
manager
to
look
into,
and
that
would
be
in
combination
with
the
police
department
and
some
other
aspects
of
the
city
and
talking
to
a
local
business
owner
in
downtown
and
building
owners.
They
mentioned
that
there's
a
plan
back
in
the
early
2000s
that
actually
designed
a
full
scale
with
diagonal
parking
in
downtown.
B
And
what
happened
is
they
said
during
that
design?
It
went
from,
let's
say
the
suntrust
and
johnny
side
of
downtown
of
the
bike
trail,
which
is
east
of
the
bike
trail.
The
diagonal
parking
would
be
on
one
side
of
the
road
and
there
would
be
no
parallel
parking
on
the
other
side
and
then,
when
you
cross
the
bike
trail,
the
diagonal
parking
would
switch
to
the
opposite
side
of
the
road.
So
you
would
have
a
jog
in
the
traffic,
so
we
would.
B
You
would
force
the
traffic
to
slow
down
in
an
area
where
you
have
a
straight
way
right
now
where
people
are
speeding,
we've
got
the
trail.
There.
We've
got
some
other
aspects
with
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
and
to
me,
safety
and
pedestrian
traffic
is
one
thing
that
we
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
emphasizing
in
our
area
of
downtown
being
able
to
back
in
and
out
safely.
Most
cars
have
cameras
now.
B
So
when
you
back
out,
you
can
see
the
traffic
coming
and
you're
not
opening
the
doors
and
to
end
of
the
traffic,
so
I
wasn't
able
or
when
I
asked
the
city
manager
they
weren't
able
to
find
those
plans
that
this
individual
told
me
about
this
is
before
really
computers
were
we
used
computers,
but
it's
it's
something
that
I
think
it's
out
there,
that
we
could
do
a
little
more
research
on
and
the
city
manager
could
share
a
little
more
shed
a
little
more
light
on
this
as
well
too.
B
It's
a
minimal
amount
of
money
to
do
just
a
conceptual
plan,
with
an
engineering
record
to
look
at
some
alternatives.
Again,
I'm
not
saying
this
is
the
best
idea,
I'm
not
saying
it's
the
worst
idea,
I'm
saying
how
can
we
move
forward
as
a
city
to
address
an
area
and
improve
a
process
that
we
already
have
parking
in
downtown
to
make
it
safer
for
our
visitors
who
are
visiting
our
businesses
and
also
our
residents,
who
are
partaking
the
businesses
and
restaurants?
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
hi
craig
lunt,
743
chesapeake,
so
I'm
not
a
traffic
engineer,
but
I
do
know
a
couple
of
facts.
The
average
length
of
an
american
car
is
around
14
to
14
and
a
half
feet.
The
average
length
of
an
suv
which
is
pretty
standard
around
here
is
between
17
and
18
feet.
The
average
width
of
a
parallel
parked
car
is
about
five
to
six
feet.
N
If
it's
a
if
it's
a
large
vehicle,
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
do
the
geometry
right
now,
but
I
do
not
believe
that
we
have
the
width
to
even
have
one
lane
of
parallel
park
or
angle
park
cars
on
that
street.
I
mean
it's
nice
for
you
to
show
the
photographs
of
back
in
the
1917s
when
the
average
length
of
a
car
was
12
feet
and
it
may
have
worked
then
with
one
side
angle
and
one
side
straight,
but
it's
not
going
to
work
with
the
modern
car.
Z
595
peninsula
avenue,
we
can't
use
the
cra
to
redecorate
town
with
statues
or
redesign
certain
areas,
as
the
individual
before
said.
Imagine
trying
to
park
an
f-250
with
an
extended
bed.
It's
not
going
to
work,
and
I
do
have
some
suggestions.
I
I
keep
forgetting
to
take
the
screenshot
and
mail
it
in,
but
the
southwest
crosswalk
poll
that
flashes
right,
the
intersection
between
tarpon
avenue
and
safford.
Z
If
you're
driving
west
the
light
doesn't
flash.
So
if
we
could
replace
that,
I
would
appreciate
it
and
these
pictures
from
1917
the
road
looks
a
lot
wider
than
it
does
now.
So
the
cars
have
to
stay
parallel
parked
the
way
they
are.
I'm
sure
mr
faklas
isn't
gonna
appreciate
having
his
disabled
spot
removed
from
right
in
front
of
his
shop,
and
there
was
a
scenario
where
it
was
trap.
Z
It
was
rush
hour
traffic
about
four
to
five
and
I
was
right
on
tarpon
avenue
and
the
ambulance
was
coming
by
and
you
know
how
you
see
the
little
walk.
Pedestrians
are
right
here
and
that's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
road.
Well,
the
ambulance
was
trying
to
get
through
and
it
couldn't
get
through,
because
cars
were
packed
going,
east
and
west,
and
since
that
pedestrian
sign
was
right
in
the
middle,
the
ambulance
couldn't
veer
around
it.
Z
It
was
really
stuck
there
wasn't
enough
width,
so
we
need
to
consider
maybe
that
pedestrian
walkway
sign
that
little
one
to
remove
it.
In
case
of,
we
need
an
ambulance
to
come
through
on
tarpon
avenue
and
let's
try
to
use
the
redevelopment
agency
to
redevelop
town
and
not
do
all
these
extra
stuff.
That's
just
wasting
our
time.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
I
I
I
mean
you
know
it's
so
nice
to
just
reconstruct
every
part
of
the
city
accordingly,
but
you
have
to
have
some
game
plan.
I
would
really
love
to
know
what
the
accident
rate
is
on
diagonal
parking
versus
parallel
parking.
Pallet
parking
is
done
everywhere.
Unless
you
have
a
very,
very
large
wide
street.
It
says
common
physics.
We
don't
have
that
in
tarpon
avenue.
I
G
W
So
then
the
city
gets
their
golf
carts
and
I
know
it's
another
aggravation,
but
it
works
three
or
four
you
you're
giving
employment.
They
drive
the
golf
carts.
They
pay
a
fee
to
get
on
the
cart,
to
come
up
town
or
go
to
the
docks.
What's
happened
with
the
golf
cart
business
that
y'all
approved
here
in
tarpon?
I
don't
know,
but
these
communities
use
them
and
the
city
runs
them
and
for
the
tourists
that
go
there
to
get
them
where
they
want
to
go.
B
Q
K
K
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
the
the
angled
parking
in
downtown
has
has
been
discussed
for
a
long
time.
A
lot
of
well-respected
residents,
business
owners
et
cetera-
have
all
not
all,
but
a
lot
have
mentioned
it
from
time
to
time.
Since
I've
been
in
office,
my
biggest
objection
to
it.
K
Well,
I
think
it's
not
a
bad
idea
is
that
10
12
years
ago
the
tarpon
avenue
was
ripped
up
right
and
it
was
reconstructed
and
it
took
a
decade
for
the
downtown,
and
it
wasn't
just
this,
but
it
took
a
decade
for
it
to
get
booming
again
and
more
lively,
et
cetera.
So
my
objection
to
this
project
has
always
been
the
business
interruption,
because
I
don't
think
that
we're
at
a
point
where
we
can
afford
to
rip
up
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
K
You
know
the
1
and
200
block
300
block
whatever
at
a
time
when
you
know
we're
experiencing
great
growth,
great
new
businesses,
a
lot
of
which
you
know
are
investing
substantial
amount
of
money
on
their
own.
Aside
from
you
know
the
landlord's
cost
or
the
real
estate
owners
costs.
K
So
while
I
think
it's
not
a
bad
idea,
my
concern
is
the
same.
Is
that
I
don't
think
we're
at
a
point
where,
as
as
nice
as
it
could
be,
I
don't
think
we're
at
a
point
where
the
I'm
willing
to
sacrifice
the
business
interruption
aspect
of
it.
You
know
we're
thriving
now.
I
don't
know
how
long
the
construction
would
take.
I
don't
think
it's
a
bad
idea
to
explore
via
a
plan,
but
you
know
without
getting
into
all
kinds
of
crazy
detail.
K
Q
Mayor
when
I
first
saw
this
on
the
agenda,
I
asked
the
city
manager.
Why
are
we
talking
about
tarpon
avenue?
Why
aren't
we
talking
about
east
orange
street?
That's
the
project
that
we're
working
on.
That's
got
diagonal
parking
that,
in
from
based
on
what
I
know
hasn't
been
really
worked
out.
Q
Yet
this
commission,
for
the
most
part
four
members
are
going
to
be
leaving
and
there'll
be
a
new
commission,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
something
good
for
this
outgoing
commission
to
at
least
see
where
things
stand
on
orange
street
and
give
their
final
thoughts
on
it
and
maybe
a
little
direction
on
it.
And
I'm
hoping
we're
going
to
do
that.
The
city
manager
said
there's
still
time
to
do
that.
Q
L
A
conceptual,
a
conceptual
ability
you
know.
L
And
examine
all
the
things
of
how
you
know
if
it
can
be
how
it
can
be,
that's
what
that
price
would
be
further
to
do
actually
do
some
conceptuals
of
you
know,
which
way,
which
sides
which
side
the
parking
is
where
it
is
what
could
fit,
and
that
was
just
an
approximate
price.
I
asked
mr
robertson
from
our
engineer
record
to
do
a
conception.
I
think
they
call
the
conceptual
that
it'd
probably
be
somewhere
between
three
and
five
thousand
dollars.
Okay,.
Q
The
the
one
business
owner
I
talked
to
had
the
same
sentiments
as
commissioner
terrapani
at
this
point
in
time.
For
the
record,
the
the
one
rule
for
fdot
and
first
of
all,
tarpon
avenue,
is
an
extremely
heavily
trafficked
street
that
good
part
of
the
day,
certainly
the
commute
times,
but
a
good
part
of
the
day,
one
of
the
fdot
rules
of
thumbs.
Is
you
don't
back
into
traffic?
Q
That's
why
you
don't
see
a
whole
lot
of
diagonal
parking
on
straight
straight
on
state
roads,
and
I
did
do
some
measuring
just
for
discussion
here
this
evening.
Tarpon
avenue
has
got
a
40-foot
width
from
curb
to
curb
east
court
street
is
40
feet.
That's
got
diagonal
on
one
side
and
parallel
on
the
other,
and
but
that's
one
way,
westcourt
street,
the
one
that
we
just
finished
up
is
45
feet
and
it's
got
two-way
traffic.
Q
I'm
not
saying
that
it
can't
be
done,
but
there
may
be
some
we're
going
to
have
to
maybe
move
back
some
of
the
curb
back
towards
the
stores,
and
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
in
order
to
do
it
right.
So
I
know
that
there's
plans
around
I've.
I've
talked
to
just
like
commissioner
tara
panties,
saying
I've
talked
about
this
before
in
the
past.
Q
In
fact,
the
one
business
owner
that
I
spoke
to
is
going
to
try
and
locate
those
for
a
scheme
from
ring
avenue
all
the
way
to
pinellas
north
panelist
avenue.
So
conceptually
those
plans
are
around
and
maybe,
if
we
can
find
them,
we
can
take
a
look
at
those
and
see
what
they
look
like,
rather
than
spending
three
to
five
thousand
dollars
on
it,
and
the
reason
why
I
mentioned
the
three
to
five
thousand
and
what
we're
gonna
do.
Q
I
I
and
I
didn't
mean
to
to
sidestep
any
kind
of
chain
of
command,
but
the
one
thing
that
I
always
see
coming
through
the
downtown
are
semi
trucks
and
I've
wondered
whether
we've
gotten
a
handle
yet
on
the
truck
route
and-
and
I
understand
from
officer
boone-
we
haven't
gotten
there
yet
and
major
trill.
Please
jump
in,
I
think,
there's
some
kind
of
a
a
scheme
that
the
police
department
is
working
to
better
manage
that
moon's
working
on
it
is
that
correct.
Y
Q
Q
I
I
don't
have
an
objection
to
diagonal
parking.
I
think
the
historic.
Q
Photographs
are
really
interesting,
but
I
just
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fit
something
in
there.
That
is
comfortable
without
moving
some
of
the
curbing
back
towards
the
stores
and-
and
that
gets
back
to
what
commissioner
tara
pani
was
saying
and
from
my
perspective
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
very
popular
and
then
the
other
part.
Unlike
court
street,
we've
got
benches
along
the
curb.
Q
And
if
you
recall
what
we
did
with
west
court
street
in
order
for
it
to
work,
we
removed
the
curb
stops,
the
wheel
stops,
so
car
could
pull
forward
and
a
little
bit
of
its
bumper
would
be
overhanging
the
overhanging,
the
sidewalk,
and
we
put,
I
think
it
was
that
one
strip
of
grass
in
there
and
that's
45
foot
wide.
We've
got
40
feet
on
tarpon
avenue.
So
I
mean
conceptually.
I've
just
saved
the
city
three
to
five
thousand
dollars
to
kind
of
go
through
that.
Q
If
you
want
to
believe
my
gis
measurements
that
I
did
and
and
quite
frankly
that's
something
that
mr
robertson
or
one
of
his
project
administrators
could
do
very
easily
as
well
to
confirm
all
those
numbers
and
compare
those
to
what
we
did
to
west
court
street
and
maybe
report
back
on
that,
rather
than
spending
three
to
five
thousand
dollars
the
the
one
concern
I
have
and
I've
always
I've
always
had.
We
keep
that
we
have.
Q
Maybe
more
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
think,
there's
ways
of
of
answering
the
question
concerning
diagonal
parking
with
plans
that
are
existing
and
also
a
very
simple
desktop
analysis
by
mr
robertson
without
having
to
engage
in
our
staff
consulting
engineers
for
that
work.
So
that's
all
I've
got
to
say
mayor.
Thank
you.
B
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
comment.
I
don't
take
any
comments
personally
coming
from
the
audience
coming
from
the
board.
These
are
just
things
that
residents
and
business
owners
are
probably
bring
up
to
me
and
I'm
bringing
them
up
to
the
board.
So
I
just
want
to
make
you
all
aware
of
that.
It's
not
like
a
personal
achievement
on
a
mind
that
I'm
trying
to
what
can
I
get
on
commissioner
carr's
totem
pole
before
he
leaves
office
in
a
year.
B
I
just
care
about
what
we
have
in
tarpon
springs,
so
these
are
good
discussion
points.
I
think
I
appreciate
the
discussion.
I
value
the
discussion
and
I
enjoy
sitting
with
you
all
up
here.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
up
these
points
regardless.
If
you
support
them
or
not,
I
just
I
know
I've
done
my
best
to
stand
behind
the
residents
when
they've
asked
me
to
bring
them
forward.
So
with
that
mayor,
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
support
necessarily
for
the
three
to
five
thousand
dollars.
B
I
would
be
open
to
amending
my
motion
to
having
city
staff
see
if
they
could
research
further
if
they
could
find
that
plan.
That
was
done
in
the
past.
Instead
of
spending
the
three
to
five
thousand
dollars
to
utilize
that
to
see,
if
there's
any
feasibility
efforts
with
this
or
not.
A
Well,
vice
mayor
carr,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
all
these
things
to
in
place
and
on
the
agenda.
I
think
it's
a
very,
very
good
discussions.
Look
in
the
the
photograph
that
we
have
on
the
back
up
back
looks
like
the
1900s,
it's
beautiful,
but
it's
nostalgic
at
that
time.
The
ev,
the
automobiles
were
so
different.
They
are
now
the
suvs
is
anywhere
from
16
feet
to
some
of
them,
18
to
19
feet
long
having
a
diet
park,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
actually
the
space
to
do
that.
A
A
One
person
remind
me
what
happened
down
to
main
street
in
dunedin,
how
many
businesses
that
actually
went
out
of
business
when
they
shot
it
down
the
street.
So
we
really
don't
want
anything
like
that.
We
already
experienced
that
I
don't
know
how
many
years
was
when
the
tarpon
avenue
was
reconstructed,
probably
about
10
years
ago.
A
little.
E
A
A
little
more
than
that
and
it
took
for
a
while
to
recover
from
that.
So
I
really
don't
want
to
go
back
to
that
again.
It's
not
going
to
help
our
business
community
in
downtown.
Now
that
we're
trying
to
build
it
up
and
bring
it
up.
So
you
can,
you
know,
blossom.
So,
mr
le
course
your
light.
It's
on.
L
You
know
it
was
going
to
be
probably
the
next
meeting,
your
second
meeting
of
february,
a
discussion
with
the
board
about
some
safety
measures
at
the
intersection
of
of
tarpon
and
sapphire.
We've
all
heard
most
of
you
on
the
board
have
talked
about
looking
at
that
to
make
any
safety.
So
I
know
chief
young
before
he
left
to
go
out
of
state
had
talked
about
possibly
getting
the
information
available
to
bring
your
officer.
Boone
is
working
on
it.
I
might
add
that
we
could.
L
L
In
fact,
the
traffic
and
the
safety
was
going
to
be
at
the
regular
being
so
if
we
can
get
it
together,
I'd
gear
for
that
the
latest
would
be
the
first
meeting
in
march,
but
I
think
we
can
add
what
was
talked
about
tonight.
Some
simple
feasibility
from
a
staff
level,
if
there's
issues
the
police
can
talk
about
if
there's
any
issues
with
safety,
because
I
know
from
my
day
with
the
size
of
vehicles,
the
feeling
of
diagonal
and
parallel
parking
has
changed
dramatically.
L
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
recommend
that
you
modify
your
motion
to
include
that.
If
you
will,
what
city
manager
just
thought.
A
A
B
I
just
requested
that
this
be
put
on
the
agenda
again.
This
is
something
that
we've
as
a
board
of
talked
about
multiple
times
I
wanted
to
update.
I
don't
have
anything
to
say
myself.
I
would
rely
on
city
manager
and
his
staff
to
present
something
to
us
on
this.
L
Yeah
so
there's
several
items
on
this,
we've
talked
and
we
talked
the
beginning
of
this
week
with
tom
there's
there's
several
areas.
I
we
want
to
talk
about
to
give
you
updates
on,
because
I
know
they're
projects
that
have
been
going
a
long
time.
There's
reasons
for
that.
So
the
theater
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
north
pinellas
beautification
orange
street
to
dota
knees
that
again
we
have
to
work
with
fdot
on
for
tom,
giving
an
update,
but
also
the
other
side
of
pinellas.
L
What
the
plan
is
for
for
the
lighting
that
you
saw
on
the
north
side
of
tarpon
avenue
in
the
parking
lot
and
stuff
what
lights
tom's
was
planning
to
bring
and
to
light
that
area
that
we're
talking
about
the
court
saffir
street
area
so
tom,
if
you
go
to
those
three
north,
pinellas,
south
pinellas,
and
then
your
plans
and
your
timing,
you
know
why
the
timing
is
not
now
during
season
talk
about
the
timing
of
and
if
we've
even
been
able
to
get
the
proper
lighting
materials
to
even
start
in
that
one.
L
Why
don't
you
go
to
those
three
areas?
And
I
think
that
give
an
update
of
three
of
concern
that
we've
got.
We've
got
a
list
of
things
we
haven't
done,
yet
they
don't
just
sit
there.
There's
a
list,
and
especially
this
one
I
think
we're
making
progress
we
could
go.
We
could
have
gone
with
a
d.o.t
plan
that
they'd
approved
eight
months
ago,
but
it
would
not
have
been
a
plan
you
liked.
It
would
not
have
been
a
plan
to
beautify
it.
L
Would
it
would
not,
it
would
have
been
costly,
it
would
not
have
been
a
good
plan,
so
tom's
been
working
and
working
and
I
think
we're
making
making
headway
and
he
can
talk
a
little
bit.
You
know
briefly
a
synopsis
of
some
headway,
and
maybe
we
can
get
fdot
to
come
with
us
and
approve
a
project
that
is
a
lot
better
than
if
we
had
to
come
back
to
you
eight
months
ago
from
the
input
from
fdot.
So
tom
sure.
S
First
I'll
touch
base
on
the
beautification
from
martin
street.
Up
to
dodecanese,
we've
been
working
with
fdot
on
recommendations
of
finding
something
we
can
do
in
the
area
and
we've
actually
gotten
to
soften
their
their
stance
actually
on
the
existing
trees
that
are
there
and
replacing
those
trees
in
many
of
those
those
existing
areas
taking
the
the
other
trees
out
of
there.
S
So
they've
asked
us
to
put
a
plant
together,
they've,
given
us
a
list
of
trees
that
they'll
allow
back
in
some
of
those
planters,
I
have
james
and
my
parks
department
working
on
that
right
now.
Once
that
plan
is
done,
we
will
bring
it
back
to
fdot
and
they
seem
to
be
really
back
on
board
of
putting
some
trees
back
at
the
existing
planet,
so
that.
S
It
yes,
well,
I
gotta
get
done
from
the
for
the
fdot
to
make
sure
they.
They
say
it's
okay,
yeah
before
and
then
I'll
bring
it
back
to
you,
guys,
of
course,
for
approval
on
that.
Yes,
the
second
section
of
this
offer
is
all
part
of
the
same
meeting
we
had
had
to
do
it
to
bump
out
the
islands
that
go
from
mirrors
boulevard
up
to
the
tarpon
avenue.
S
We've
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
those
planters,
a
couple
of
them
just
didn't
work
out
well
in
the
traffic
patterns,
especially
on
by
mlk,
as
you
head
north
vehicles
coming
over
the
top
the
curbs
and
breaking
the
islands
again,
they
said
to
us
they
would
look
and
if
we
could
come
up
with
a
plan
on
either
removing
islands,
maybe
maybe
modifying
them.
That
would
give
us
an
opportunity
to
even
do
some
landscaping
there
and
they
had
some
other
bump
outs
that
are
there
just
kind
of
got
grass
and
all
into
it.
S
We'd
like
to
add
some
trees
in
they're
on
board
of
working
with
us
on
that,
and
even
maybe
the
possibility
of
putting
a
right
hand
turn
lane
heading
north
on
ulta
19
on
some
mlk
we're
gonna,
look
at
the
size
of
that
and
probably
possibly
restrict
that.
So
I
should
have
another.
I
should
have
something
together,
probably
in
the
next
month
or
so.
S
The
staffing
right
now
has
been
a
little
tough
on
some
of
the
things
going
on,
but
hopefully
I'll
get
that
to
fdot
and
get
their
feedback,
and
sometime
this
late
spring
sometime
come
back
with
a
plan
that
that
will
work
there.
The
other
stuff
has
to
do
with
safford
avenue
and
court
street
that
parking
lot
there
and
some
of
the
other
lights
that
I
intended
to
put
downtown
every
place.
S
Of
course,
the
the
lighting
we
want
to
put
down
there
are
very
hard
to
get
right
now:
nylon,
who's,
our
supplier
last
lights.
We
had
over
there
the
replace
took
us
ten
months
to
get
them,
and
then
we
put
another
order
in
and
then
maybe
a
year
before
we
get
those
lights.
Unfortunately,
yeah
we
don't
match
lights.
S
We
got
there
unless
I
change
the
style
lights,
but
that
becomes
very
difficult
and
probably
not
as
aesthetic
the
lighting
for
the
parking
lot
behind
the
train
station
on
the
corner
of
saffron
and
lemon
street
sometime
after
season
is
to
start
getting
those
lights
ready.
We
don't
want
to
put
it
in
the
season
right
now,
because
we
have
to
do
some
open
cuts.
You
got
some
underground
electric
in
the
parking
lot,
plus
the
library
that
parking
lot
and
the
cultural
center
are
on
my
paving
plan
for
this
spring.
S
So
I'm
trying
to
get
all
that
work
together
and
try
to
do
it
after
the
season.
So
again
talk
about
parking.
I
don't
want
to
affect
parking
in
the
busy
time
of
the
season,
so
sometime
probably
in
april
or
may,
we
should
be
able
to
start
that
project.
A
Thank
you,
tom,
go
to
public
comments,
any
comments
on
this
item.
A
A
I
am
very
glad
that
you
were
able
to
convince
the
d.o.t
that
we
can
actually
replace
those
trees
without
going
in
the
back
with
the
trees
right
now.
It
makes
no
sense
and
we
don't
have
the
space
to
do
to
begin
with
yeah
and
but
still
there
are
some
breaks,
the
they're
loose
on
the
sidewalks
they're
at
the
safety
concern.
If
we
can't
get
them
least
repaired
till
you
get
all
the
other
work
you.
E
A
Right
now
it's
something
that
yeah.
I
know
you
got
some
safety
coins
around
yes
and
because
they're
totally
unsafe.
A
P
A
I
got
many
complaints,
especially
actually
it
was
just
an
an
older
lady,
not
long.
I
guess
he
says
to
me
says
you
know
how
much
did
it
cost
me
to
replace
much
higher
but-
and
I
told
her
the
that
you're
working
with
that
and
the
situation
that
we're
in
and
she
understands
that.
So
thank
you
for
that.
You're.
Welcome.
A
Commissioner
penny.
Thanks.
K
Mayor,
I
also
want
to
start
by
thanking
commissioner
carr
for
putting
this
item
on
the
agenda
tom,
the
tree
wells
on
north
pinellas
avenue.
Obviously
that's
been
going
on
for
forever.
So
you
know
the
squeaky
wheel
evidently
gets
a
little
bit
of
grease
right
yeah.
So
I'm
I
wish
you
could
tell
us
more
I'd
like
to
know
more.
Are
you
saying
that
the
d.o.t
is
softening
their
position
on
replant
and
replacement
or
just
replant.
F
K
Dies
you
know
during
the
season,
so
you
know
I'm
open
to
suggestions
there.
Leave
it
to
the
professionals
would
definitely
like
to
see
some
oak
trees
there,
if
possible.
So
if
you're
in
the
in
the
process
of
negotiating
species
with
d.o.t,
if
you
can
include
the
oak
trees,
south
pinellas
avenue,
maybe
I
misunderstood
you
are
we
talking
about
talking?
Are
we
trying?
Are
we
talking
about
just
the
ball
bouts,
or
are
you
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
landscape
medians?
Because
if
you're
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
landscape
medians,
I
don't
support
that.
K
S
K
S
Is
what
you
insinuated
yes
and
we're
going
to
be
paving
three
parking
lots
the
same
time
so
once
I
get
the
paper
and
I
have
a
a
a
paving
list,
I'll
be
getting
back
to
you
next
month
or
so
I'll
be
all
part
of
that
whole
project.
So
when
I
get
somebody
in
the
pave
they'll
be
doing
a
regular
city,
paving
plus
those
parking
lots
so.
S
K
K
S
We
at
one
time,
we've
we've,
walked
and
added
some
additional
decorative
lighting,
acorn
lighting,
we're.
O
S
And
and
lemon
there's
a
couple
other
ones
by
the
lot
by
the
bank.
We
want
to
upgrade
those
and
you
know,
get
those
spots,
those
kind
of
bring
spots
in,
but
once
we
started
getting,
we've
had
multiple
accidents
along
the
way
and
we
replaced
acorn
lights
throughout
the
whole
area,
the
ones
I
had
for
those
areas
we
wanted
to
put
in
got
depleted.
You
know,
eight
of
them
went
pretty
fast,
tried
to
order
them
and
we
finally
got
some
back.
S
O
S
Original
intention
we
had
them
and
then
just
we
really
depleted
them
yeah
I
couldn't.
I
couldn't
foresee
the
the
issue,
of
course,
would
do
but
yeah
it
was
impossible
supply
chain
supply.
K
B
A
You
want
to
second
it
sure.
Second,
okay,
any
other
comments,
no
comments,
and
before
I
go
to
welcome
I'd
like
to
thank
vice
mayor
carr,
for
requesting
the
update
and
put
it
on
agenda,
I
think
it's
good
for
everybody
to
know
that
we're
working
on
those
items,
especially
on
the
north
and
south
penelos,
which
is
a
state
road
and
it
takes
forever
to
get
the
state
to
work
with
us,
so
appreciate
that
roll
call
please.