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A
B
B
A
Good
evening,
everyone
this
evening
we're
going
to
have
the
invocation
by
rev
reverend
christina
spouty
pastor
at
the
unitarian
universalist
church
here
in
tarpon
springs.
If
we
may
all
stand
please
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
invocation,
turn
and
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag.
Thank
you.
C
We
give
thanks
for
the
work
done
by
our
commissioners,
vice
mayor,
mayor
manager
and
all
the
elected
and
appointed
officials
serving
this
community
where
we
live
and
work
and
play,
may
you
be
grounded
in
values
of
both
civics
and
faith?
However,
you
might
define
that
to
include
those
who
might
be
called
the
least
the
lost,
and
the
last
for
all
are
our
neighbors
and
siblings.
C
A
We
get
into
the
public
comments,
we
have
several
items
that
have
been
deferred
and
actually
withdrawn.
So
let
me
go
through
those
real
quick
item:
11
fire
department,
certification
pay,
that's
been
deferred
to
a
date
to
be
determined
item,
17,
ordinance,
2022-14
application,
palm
harbor
investments,
vacation
of
right
away.
That's
been
with
ron
item
18
resolution,
2022-22
appeal:
the
historic
preservation
board
decision
that
160
reed
street
that's
been
withdrawn.
E
A
Resolution
2022-15
application
conditionally
used
for
hotel
hill
street
and
roosevelt
boulevard.
That's
been
withdrawn,
that'll,
actually
there's
a
new
application
and
that'll
be
coming
to
the
commission
on
july
12th
and
I
believe,
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
if
I've
got
to
rate
the
date
correct
june
30th.
I
know
that's
of
interest
to
many
residents,
also
application
22-46
southwest
corner
lillian,
avenue
and
curlew
place.
That's
been
deferred
to
july
12th
as
well,
and
also
item
23
application.
21-103.
A
A
Okay,
let's
go
to
public
comments.
Is
there
anybody
here
for
public
comments
that
on
anything,
that's
not
in
the
session?
Please
come
forward
state,
your
name
and
and
your
address.
You
have
four
minutes
and
if
you
need
more
time,
you
can
ask
someone
in
the
audience
and
they'll.
Maybe
they'll
give
you
two
additional
minutes:
okay,.
C
A
Is
that
your
comment,
sir?
Yes,
I
think
if
you
could
get
with
the
is
that
the
planning
and
zoning
department,
that's
where
you'd
start,
if
you
could
either
call
city
hall
at
727-938-3711,.
A
F
F
F
F
The
13th
316
does
not
give
any
exceptions
for
anything.
It's
not
okay
to
park
on
half
the
sidewalk
or
a
quarter
of
the
sidewalk
and
where
a
sidewalk
goes
through
a
driveway
is
still
a
sidewalk.
The
people
at
dispatch.
Last
thursday
told
me
they
are
not
going
to
send
an
officer
to
a
house
where
the
car
is
parking
in
the
driveway
where
it
blocks
the
sidewalk.
F
F
There's
a
lot
of
people
in
tarpon
springs
that
use
the
sidewalks
that
I'm
sure
don't
particularly
care
about
dodging
around
illegally
parked
automobiles
right.
You
wouldn't
like
it
imagine
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair,
imagine
if
you're
using
a
walker,
crutches
a
cane,
a
leg
brace,
I
saw
a
guy
the
other
day
with
a
leg
brace
from
above
his
knee
all
the
way
down.
His
foot
was
two
aluminum
kings.
A
A
No,
that's
fine.
We
appreciate
hearing
from
residents
the
same
angel.
Of
course
we
can
get
chief
young
to
get
with
the
city
attorney
and
get
this
discussed
and
then
get
back
with
the
gentleman
with
some
kind
of
an
opinion
or
action
similar
to
what
chief
young
did
before.
I
think
this
is
a
little
different.
Now
he's
introduced.
A
different
dynamic
into
the
situation.
Is
that?
Okay,
yes,
and
if
anybody.
G
H
I
had
mentioned
the
exorbitant
cost
that
the
lawsuits
are
costing
the
city,
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
mr
clay
coulson,
who
has
a
lawsuit
in
this
regard,
and
he
is
open
to
a
settlement.
H
H
You
can
put
this
thing
to
bed
now,
of
course,
they're
going
to
tell
you
that
the
morgan
group's
going
to
sue
the
city,
but
you
already
have
two
lawsuits
about
this
matter.
It's
already
costing
the
city
money,
and
so
you
need
to
get
with
them
or
some
attorney
and
get
some
advice
on
how
to
proceed
here.
H
H
Time
has
come,
and
you
know
I
know,
there's
an
item.
That's
coming
up
from
the
friends
between
now
and
then
you
need
to
get
all
your
options
on
the
table.
I
mean,
first
of
all,
did
anybody
ever
check
to
see
if
the
morgan
groups
ever
sued
a
city
ever
not
very
good
business?
If
they
have,
of
course,
they
sure
go
around
threatening
commissioners
for
not
recusing
themselves,
so
maybe
they
would.
H
I
doubt
it,
and
even
if
they
did,
then
they
would
have
to
fight
the
city
in
the
city,
proving
that
it
was
against
the
comp
plan.
The
city
now
doing
the
right
thing
for
the
right
reason:
the
city
saying
hey:
no,
they
can
bring
their
attorneys
and
take
us
to
court
and
we'll
prove
that
this
is
in
violation
of
the
count
plan
and
there's
no
way
they
can
prove.
Otherwise,
because
there
are
so
many
violations,
so
they
would
be
foolish
to
take
the
city
to
court
so
seriously.
H
H
I
I
Praise
ye
the
lord
blessed
is
the
man
that
feareth
the
lord
that
delighteth
greatly
in
his
commandments.
His
seed
shall
be
mighty
upon
the
earth.
The
generation
of
the
upright
shall
be
blessed.
Wealth
and
riches
shall
be
in
his
house
and
his
righteousness
endureth
forever
unto
the
upright
there
ariseth
light
in
the
darkness.
I
I
F
I
I
I
I
mean
of
permits
and
things
of
that
nature,
which
I
believe
will
be
heard
on
july,
28th
and
correction
28th
june
28th.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
I'm
thinking
ahead
and
as
you're
most
likely
aware
by
now
we
have
filed
our
reply
to
the
petition
that
morgan
responded
to,
which
was
a
reply
to
the
order
from
the
court
to
combine
the
cases,
but
again
that
wasn't
what
I
spoke
wanted
to
speak
about,
but
I
wanted
to
clarify
those
are
two
separate
issues:
two
different
organizations
and
people,
and
we
have
nothing
to
do
with
clay
coulson.
As
they
have
nothing
to
do
with
what
we're
doing
through
the
concerned,
citizens
now
distant.
I
I
If
commissioner
donna
then
gave
it
to
paul
smith,
the
cd
about
the
sports
complex,
that
we
did
back
in
209,
it's
still
there.
That
is
a
viability
you
put
fields
out
there.
You
have
tournaments
soccer
lacrosse
football
baseball.
You
want
to
help
the
kids.
You
want
to
help
the
community
look
at
putting
in
the
sport
complex.
You
got
to
look
at
that
as
a
vision
of
a
whole
area,
and
I
know
the
concerns
of
putting
traffic
through
a
neighborhood.
I
A
B
The
first
email
is
from
richard
cisneros
address
is
113
athenian
way.
I
would
love
to
have
more
pickleball
playtime
at
the
indoor
rec
center
and
outdoors
I
have
to
travel
to
other
towns
to
play
more.
Many
of
my
fellow
tarpon
knights
would
like
dedicated
pickleball
court
six,
if
possible,
all
the
surrounding
towns
have
dedicated
outdoor
pickleball
courts.
Thank
you.
B
Next
one
is
from
rick
cisneros,
also
at
113
athenian
way,
hello
board
of
commissioners.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
time
to
share
our
concerns
and
interests.
My
wife
and
I
moved
to
tarpon
springs
less
than
a
year
ago,
and
we
love
everyone
and
everything
about
it.
We
are
avid
pickleball
players
and
have
found
many
tarponites
share
our
interests.
The
problem
is,
we
have
to
wait
constantly
to
play
because
we
don't
have
enough
indoor
and
outdoor
courts,
it's
frustrating,
and
sometimes
I
just
skip
a
day
or
two.
B
B
Next
one
is
from
terry
malench
address
is
one
three
five
four
shady
pineway
e1.
I
asked
the
commission
approve
the
construction
of
public
pickleball
courts
for
tarpon
springs.
Pickleball
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
sports
in
the
country,
and
there
are
many
enthusiastic
players
right
here
in
tarpon
springs.
I
am
a
pickleball
player
and
can
tell
you
the
game
is
fun
great
exercise
and
social
public
pickleball
courts
would
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
list
of
outdoor
activities
available
for
tarpon
springs
residents
and
visitors
alike.
Thank
you.
B
Next
one
is
from
andy
gincola
170
north
spring
boulevard.
I
am
asking
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
to
consider
building
pickleball
courts.
The
only
opportunities
to
play
right
now
are
in
other
cities
and
a
few
times
inside
the
tarpon
springs.
Recreation
building
pickleball
is
the
fastest
growing
sport
in
the
united
states.
Over
the
last
three
years,
owners
of
professional
sports
teams,
such
as
the
carolina
hurricanes
and
others,
are
investing
money
into
the
sport.
B
Knowing
that
the
sport
is
here
to
stay,
including
broadcast
television,
I
play
throughout
pinellas,
hillsboro
and
pasco
county,
and
I
see
tarpon
springs
residents
everywhere.
I
play
we
have
recently
started
playing
friday
nights
at
the
recreation
center
and
we
now
have
30
people
to
play
on
three
courts.
If
we
had
12
courts,
we
could
have
sanctioned
tournaments
that
draw
800
to
3
000
players
on
a
regular
basis
that
would
bring
revenue
to
the
city.
With
six
courts
we
would
be
able
to
have
local
tournaments
at
smaller
level.
B
B
Please
take
the
time
to
look
at
the
usapickleball.org
site
for
additional
demographic
demographic
information.
Next
one
is
from
annette
schroeder,
2656
keystone
spring.
Road
pickleball
is
a
growing
sport
across
the
country
I
live
in.
Tarpon
springs,
but
have
to
drive
to
surrounding
communities
to
play.
Pickleball
pickleball,
courts
and
tarpon
springs
are
in
great
demand.
B
Next,
one
from
becky
archer
1012
lake
evoca
court.
We
are
in
need
of
pickleball
courts
in
the
city,
the
courts
that
they
use
from
the
basketball
courts
at
the
community
center
are
not
in
good
shape
and
it's
filled
to
capacity
most
of
the
time.
Pickleball
has
grown
all
over
the
country.
It
would
bring
people
in
from
all
over
who
would
play
and
possibly
stay
and
have
lunch,
etc.
It
would
bring
revenue
to
the
city.
Please
consider
this.
Thank
you.
B
Next
one
is
from
zelena
chase
2105
catch
court.
Please
consider
creating
pickleball
courts
for
public
use.
Thank
you.
Next
one
is
from
martijn
cola,
170
north
spring
boulevard.
Please
install
pickleball
courts
for
our
residents.
The
number
of
tarpon
springs
residents
who
play,
and
the
ex
potential
growth
of
the
sport
warrants
serious
consideration
for
this
upgrade
in
our
town.
B
Next
one
is
from
amanda
amla
170
north
spring
boulevard.
I
think
tarpon
could
really
benefit
from
adding
pickleball
courts
around
town.
It's
the
fastest
growing
sport
and
every
time
I
drive
by
any
of
the
tennis
courts
in
town
people
are
gathering
to
play.
Pickleball
tournaments
have
become
extremely
popular
and
would
bring
in
people
from
all
over
tarpon
springs.
B
Next
one
is
from
eric
ammond
313
north
gross.
Please
install
pickleball
courts.
These
would
be
a
great
addition
to
our
community.
Next
one
is
from
willia
wilma
burns
164
north
spring
boulevard.
It
would
be
a
great
addition
to
tarpon
springs
to
have
pickleball
courts
available.
Next
one
is
from
lauren
amman,
313
north
gross
avenue.
We
need
public
pickleball
courts
near
downtown.
B
Next,
one
is
from
iron
sacks
751
salt
lake
drive.
We
need
outdoor
pickleball
courts,
public
pickleball
courts.
Next
last,
one
is
from
kim
mai
1389
cell
harbor
circle.
Pickleball
is
the
fastest
growing
sport
in
america,
after
playing
on
beautiful
outdoor
courts
in
michigan.
For
a
couple
of
months
I
was
extreme.
I
was
surprised
at
the
lack
of
quartz
in
and
around
tarpon
springs.
I
tried
playing
at
the
rec
center
there,
but
it's
so
poorly
lit
and
only
available
at
limited
times.
People
of
all
ages
are
now
enjoying
the
sport.
B
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I
coast
to
vaticatus,
by
virtue
of
the
authority
vested
in
me
as
mayor
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Florida
do
hereby
proclaim
june
2022
as
hurricane
awareness
month.
Okay,
chief
we've
got
a
congratulations.
Thank
you
very
much.
We've
got
a
presentation
by
the
chief
tonight
and
my
signatures
on
that's
going
to
be
worth
a
lot
of
money
someday.
A
K
K
Oh
there
we
go,
the
hurricane
season
has
started.
We
just
had
a
group
of
people
from
public
works,
police
department,
roads
and
streets,
and
the
fire
department
go
down
to
the
governor's
hurricane
conference,
as
we
do
each
year
to
get
updates,
learn
a
little
bit
more.
What
we
can
do
to
make
things
a
little
bit
safer.
K
This
is
just
a
little
graph
of
what
the
hurricanes
looked
like
last
year
and
all
the
different
tracks
and
how
we
kind
of
skirted
around
one
of
them,
especially
the
elsa.
It
was
the
one
that
came
closest
to
us.
I
think
that's
the
one
that
got
us
most
nervous
last
year,
but
we
made
it
through.
Thank
goodness
so
here's
the
noaa
predictions
for
the
hurricanes
14
to
21
name
tropical
storms
this
year,
six
to
ten
of
those,
will
become
hurricanes
and
they're
projecting
three
to
six
major
hurricanes.
K
These
are
category
threes
and,
above
are
considered
major
storms.
These
are
above
average
numbers.
There
is
some
talk
that
I
heard
from
the
hurricane
conference.
What
they
brought
back
is
that
they
are
looking
at
changing
hurricane
season
starting
june
1st,
to
moving
it
up
to
may
15th,
so
that
may,
because
of
the
storms,
we're
starting
to
see
them
earlier,
so
they
did
it
used
to
be
june,
15th
believe
it
or
not.
They
moved
it
to
june
1st
years
ago.
Now
it's
possibly
going
to
move
to
may
15th.
So
we'll.
K
K
This
is
noah
puts
down
as
the
hot
spots
this
year
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
in
that
the
florida
peninsula
is
the
number
one
hot
spot
this
year
for
storms
according
to
noaa.
Next
is
up
along
the
carolinas
there
we'll
see
if
this
holds
true,
hopefully
not.
Hopefully,
this
is
just
a
prediction
of
theirs.
That
won't
come
true,
so
you
all
know
there's
different
categories
of
storms,
one
through
five.
K
This
is
just
a
little
graph
to
tell
you
anything
above
74
miles
an
hour
to
95
is
a
cat
one
storm
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
goes
up
to
155
and
over
as
a
category
five
storm
surges,
a
four
to
five
feet
at
a
category
one
and
the
little
graph
there
kind
of
shows
you
what
you'll
be
looking
at
for
water.
One
of
the
downfalls
we
have
is
that
we
have
a
very
shallow
shelf
out
here
in
the
gulf
which
helps
the
water
rise,
a
lot
faster
for
us.
K
K
K
If
you're
going
to
leave
the
area
to
go,
someplace
else
contact
the
friend,
the
family
member,
that's
outside
the
state,
maybe
a
long
ways
away
on
the
other
side
of
this
country
to
let
them
know
where
you're
headed,
where
you
plan
on
going
when
you
plan
on
getting
there
and
then
call
them
when
you
get
there,
let
them
know
you
got
out
of
harm's
way.
Do
the
same
in
reverse
when
you're
coming
back.
Sometimes
people
have
trouble
getting
back
into
the
area,
so
let
them
know
that
you're
back
home
and
you're
safe.
K
Figure
out
your
evacuation
routes
secure
your
documents
which
I'll
talk
about
here
in
a
minute
get
a
little
to-go
bag
ready.
You
never
know
when
things
are
gonna
change.
If
any
of
you
remember,
we
had
charlie
many
years
ago
that
was
predicted
to
come
right
through
tarpon
springs
and
in
the
middle
of
the
night
it
made
a
quick
turn
down
through
sarasota
area
and
stuff.
So
those
people
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time.
K
They
thought
they're
going
to
be
okay,
make
sure
you
have
a
bag
that
you
can
grab
and
go
if
you
need
to
get
out.
Quick
here
are
some
just
some
of
the
things
you
want
to
make
sure
you
have
in
your
bag
medications
some
of
your
important
papers.
If
you
have
kids
formula
diapers
things
like
that,
just
make
sure
you
have
all
the
essentials
you
can
that
you
can
just
leave
on
a
moment's
notice.
K
Here's
your
important
documents
try
to
find
a
waterproof
case
that
you
can
keep
your
documents
in
and
keep
them
with
you
if
you
have
to
leave
or
if
you
stay
home,
and
you
have
no
choice
but
to
stay
home
that
they'll
stay
safe
needs,
your
titles,
insurance
policies,
medical
records,
your
birth
certificates,
etc.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
they
stay
dry
and
safe,
that
you
might
need
those
after
the
storm
to
prove
some
things
or
get
insurance
policies
taken
care
of
know
your
evacuation
zones.
This
is
very
important.
K
There's
some
different
ways
to
find
it
on
some
of
your
utility
bills.
If
you're
in
the
county,
the
ready,
pinellas
app
right
here,
is
a
free
app
that
you
can
download
on
your
phone
and
anywhere
you're
at
at
any
time.
It'll
tell
you
what
evacuation
zone
you're
in
at
that
point.
You
just
put
your
address
in
and
sometimes
it'll
just
do
it
by
gps
and
it'll.
Tell
you
exactly
that
you're,
an
a
b
c,
whatever
most
of
tarpon
springs,
is
an
a
b
zone.
K
The
zone
flood
zones
have
changed
this
year,
so
make
sure
you
get
one
of
the
new
hurricane
guides
or
go
on
the
app
to
see
what
has
changed
for
you.
In
fact,
hurricane
guides
are
in
the
back
back
here.
I
said
a
bunch
back
there,
but
you'll
find
them
at
the
library
city
hall,
public
safety
building
and
throughout
some
of
the
communities.
K
There's
some
phone
numbers.
You
can
call
the
county
if
you
have
questions
about
your
zone,
but
it's
very
important
to
know
what
you
need
to
do
if
they
call
that
zone
to
evacuate
again,
here's
your
zone
know
your
zone.
This
is
some
of
the
levels
of
the
zones.
Oops,
sorry
right
here.
Let's
just
tell
you
how
much
water
you
can
expect
an
a-zone
could
be
up
to
11
feet
of
water,
believe
it
or
not,
that's
most
of
tarpon.
K
Hurricane
shelters
again
we
like
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
that
tarpon
springs
does
not
have
a
shelter
anymore.
It
was
about
two
years
now,
since
we
lost
the
shelter
because
of
the
zone,
it
was
in
so
the
closest
zones
for
us
car,
wise,
middle
school
in
palm
harbor,
right
off
of
alderman
palm
harbor
middle
school
down
off
of
tampa
road
and
then
palm
harbor
university
down
off
of
aldermen
near
omaha
street.
K
Those
are
shelters
if
you
need
to
go
to
a
shelter,
try
to
plan
ahead,
so
you
don't
have
to
go
to
a
shelter.
Try
to
just
get
out
of
the
area.
Shelters
are
not
your
first
choice
if
you
can
help
it,
but
if
that's
where
you
need
to
go,
please
go
be
safe,
special
needs.
We
have
a
special
needs
program
in
the
county.
If
you
are
a
loved
one,
needs
special
care
or
has
issues
of
getting
out
of
town
and
need
to
go
to
a
shelter,
and
you
need
help.
K
Please
call
pinellas
county
emergency
management
or
call
the
fire
department,
we'll
assist
you
in
getting
the
paperwork
done
and
we'll
put
you
on
our
list
to
get.
You
picked
up
and
to
one
of
the
shelters
or
to
our
special
needs,
shelter.
If
you
need
special
medical
care
right
now,
we
have
probably
close
to
250
people
on
our
list.
K
For
updated
information,
there's
also
the
social
media
pages
facebook
pages
police,
fire
cities,
facebook
pages
pages
city's
website
you
also,
if
you
download
or
go
on
you,
can
get
the
app
alert
pinellas.
Some
of
you
may
have
that
it's
a
free,
app
or
information
if
anything
is
going
on,
you'll
get
a
special
alert
on
the
phone
or
our
email.
However,
you
want
it
and
it'll,
let
you
know
what's
going
on
and
what
you
need
to
be
aware
of.
K
It's
gone
off
a
few
times
just
recently
for
me
for
some
storms,
because
I
have
a
different
thing
on
it,
but
it's
a
great
thing:
we've
actually
used
it
in
the
city,
one
time
for
a
water
line
break
on
a
certain
part
of
the
town,
so
it's
a
great
app
just
to
kind
of
keep
informed.
A
K
It
depends
on
where
you're
at,
if
you're
in
a
zone,
you're
probably
going
to
be
affected.
That
could
go
quite
a
ways
in
the
town,
because
you
also
have
the
bayou,
so
those
will
fill
up
with
water
and
that
could
go
go.
The
highest
point
in
tarpon
springs
is
really
out
by
the
middle
school.
There's
like
a
a
high
ridge
right
there,
that's
probably
the
area
that
would
be
the
driest
in
town.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
mr
jump.
Any
comments
on
remote
access.
A
And
item
one
satisfaction:
release
of
liens
item
two
attorneys
fees:
trastegnol
invoice
june,
1st
2022
item
three
special
events,
seafood
festival,
rotary
triathlon
and
hippie
fest
item
four
increase
file;
number
two:
one:
zero
one:
three:
six
utilizing
state
of
florida
alternate
contract
for
fuel
card
services;
item
five
increase
file;
number
one;
seven;
zero
one;
one:
three
dash
c
dash
cm
florida
department
of
corrections
for
food
products
and
supplies.
A
That's
for
the
golf
course
item.
Six
award
file
number
two:
two:
zero
one:
two:
seven
dash
c-a-s
cured
in
place:
pipelining
services,
item
7
award
file;
220137-c
dash,
aes
laboratory
testing
services,
utilizing
city
of
plant
cities,
contract
item,
8
award
file;
number
22013,
single-source,
purchase
of
sulfuric
acid.
A
None,
okay!
Let
me
go
to
public
comments.
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
the
on
the
consent
agenda.
I
I
A
Mr
lockus,
you
this
came
up
last
year
as
well,
and
did
anybody
contact
you
last
year
to
explain
the
process.
I
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
the
process,
no,
not
exactly,
and
it's
just
more
of
an
awareness
thing
at
this
point.
Okay,
so
the
board
can
maybe,
at
some
point
look
at
how
we
can
modify
our
water
system
in
such
a
matter
that
we
can
reduce
the
amount
of
chemicals
we
have
to
put
into
it.
That
kind
of
is
my
objective.
It's
not
a
so
much
personally
me.
A
H
Chris
wrabowski
1602
gulf
beach,
boulevard
tarpon,
springs
34689
and
yes,
this
is
about
the
trash
dagno
invoice
for
june.
So
some
of
these
I
jotted
down
some
notes.
It
looks
like
with
the
friends
lawsuit
2581,
I
think,
and
then
for
mr
coulson
1238.50
and
then
another
one
for
1
332
and
ironically,
it
mentions
me
by
name
talking
about
how
they're
running
up
the
bill
and
then
they're
charging
you
for
that.
H
I
had
hoped
that
that
would
not
be
the
case
me
speaking
here
in
public
would
cost
the
city
money,
but
that's
what's
happening,
and
I
see
that
the
mayor
looked
into
it
and
that
that's
billed
for
on
here
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
you
looking
into
it
it's
just.
We
don't
have
to
endure
this.
You
don't
have
to
endure
me
coming
up
here
and
talking
about
it.
You
guys
get
in
behind
closed
doors,
make
a
settlement
agreement
with
this
gentleman,
and
this
thing
goes
away.
H
H
H
H
So
if
you
act
quickly,
you
might
not
even
have
to
deal
with
the
morgan
group,
just
the
city
and
mr
coulson,
something
to
think
about
faster.
You
move
the
faster
that
can
happen,
so
I
don't
pretend
to
be
an
attorney.
H
I
just
happen
to
know
a
lot
of
them
and
have
to
deal
with
them
to
help
clean
up
some
of
the
mistakes
made
in
this
room.
So
I
implore
you
please
at
least
get
advice
from
somebody
that
can
tell
you
what
the
real
options
are,
so
that
we're
not
just
throwing
money
away
at
this.
You
know
what
you
can
do
and
you
don't
have
to
do
it,
but
I
suspect
that's
the
route
you
will
go.
Thank
you
thank.
A
Okay,
mr
jump,
are
there
any
comments
from
remote
access.
A
Jump
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion
on
approving
items,
one
through
eight,
please
so
move.
L
A
Let's
move
on
to
this
special
consent:
item
agenda:
item
nine
habitat
for
humanity,
lot
purchase
proposal,
711,
north
distant
avenue
and
1315
east
boyer
street.
Mr.
A
G
Ahead
and
start,
and
then
this
just
to
start
real
quickly
for
rene
goes,
you
know
our
partnership
with
habitat
for
humanity
and
building
homes
has
been
going
on
a
long
time,
and
this
is
a
case
where
we're
bringing
you
two
parcels
that
we
feel
the
best
uses
to
continue
our
partnership
and
deal
with
habitat
for
the
new
homes
and
I'll.
Let
renee
go
ahead
and
start
and
then
I'll
come
in
at
the
end.
J
I
think
you're,
a
vincent
planning
director
good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners,
so
before
you
and
send
your
agenda
back
up,
is
an
offer
from
habitat
for
humanity
to
purchase.
It's
a
combined
offer
to
purchase
two
parcels
that
are
city
owned.
One
is
711
north
distant,
the
other
one
is
1315
east
boyer
street
and
both
of
these
have
been
acquired
through
some
type
of
code
enforcement
action
in
the
past
both
had
single-family
homes
on
them
which
have
been
demolished
so
they're
they're,
both
you
know
I'll,
say
they're.
J
They
conform
with
the
zoning
that
they're
in
their
buildable
lots
from
that
standpoint,
so
habitat
has
submitted
an
offer
to
purchase
them
in
your
gender
backup
I've.
Given
you
a
map
to
show
you
where
they
are
just
some
additional
information
for
the
record,
the
the
other
associated
costs
that
the
city
has
expended
through
the
code
enforcement
settlement
of
liens
and
actual
demolition,
attorneys
fees
and
things
of
that
nature,
or
a
little
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
combined
for
both
of
those.
So
that's
you
know
funds
that
the
city
has
expended
with.
J
With
regard
to
these
lots
through
the
process
they
offer
to
purchase
the
combined
offer
for
both
lots
together
as
80
000
and
then
there's
a
in
the
back
up,
there's
a
a
fairly
substantial.
You
know
proposal
and
explanation
from
habitat
about
how
they
inten
how
their
process
works,
how
they
make
them
affordable,
and
it's
a
lot
of
good
information
in
that
I'll.
J
I
think
ken
rush
is
here
this
evening,
so
he
can
answer
questions
about
that
proposal
if
need
be,
and
then,
pursuant
to
section
2-126-b
of
our
code
of
ordinances
regarding,
you,
may
convey
these
parcels
to
a
tax-exempt
charitable
organization
which
habitat
for
humanity
is
at
less
than
appraised
tax
value.
As
long
as
you
have
an
affirmative
vote
of
four
members
of
the
commission.
So
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions-
and
I
believe
yes,
ken
is
here
so
thank
you.
G
Let
me
just
let
me
just
add
to
that.
This
is
usually
more
than
we,
except
for
these
properties.
Habitat
had
a
time
when
you
know
their
funds
were
limited.
We
usually
just
recovered
our
costs
and
some
other
things.
Luckily,
they've
come
into
some
sources
of
money.
Obviously,
with
what's
going
on
to
be
able
to
purchase
these
properties
and
the
offer
of
80
000
is
due
to
that
funding
that
they've
got.
But
what
I
want
to
get
with
is
obviously
you'll
decide
where
it
goes.
G
But
my
suggestion
with
this
money
is
that
it
be
reserved
and
be
used
for
property
in
the
future
that
we're
looking
at
either
for
preservation
or
other
that
that
that
money
be
taken
and
used
for
for
acquiring
land,
that
we
can
either
preserve
or
or
use
for
something
that
were
purchased.
G
That's
what
we're
able
to
do
with
the
the
funding
that
they
got
so
they'll
get
a
home
in
the
property
rates
which
are
high
and
they'll
get
two
prime
spots,
one
spot
right
next
to
school,
which
is
prime
for
family,
we're
a
partner
in
doing
this,
because
obviously
we're
giving
them
a
lesser
value
than
that
and
we're
also
obtaining
money
where
we
can
purchase
lands
in
the
future
for
the
city's
use.
So,
in
my
mind,
it's
a
win-win
win
for
all
in
this
situation.
C
Ken
brush
ceo
at
habitat,
for
you,
manny
pinellas
county
in
west
pasco,
first
of
all,
just
wanted
to
address
the
mayor
and
the
commission.
Thank
you
for
the
consideration
of
the
purchase.
As
you
all
know,
and
we
all
know
real
estate
is
a
hot
commodity
and
for
habitat
to
continue.
C
Property
to
build
on
and
we
still
want
to
continue
to
build
throughout
our
entire
service
area,
which
includes
tarpon
springs.
These
lots
will
be
matched
with
someone
who
wants
to
be
a
resident
of
tarpon
springs.
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
that
whatsoever
and
we
are
looking
at
an
opportunity
to
provide
homeownership
at
an
affordable,
zero
percent
interest
mortgage
to
to
deserving
families
who
go
through
a
rigorous
program
with
sweat,
equity
hours,
25
education
classes
about
a
year
long
to
become
a
homeowner.
So
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
from
the
commissioner.
K
C
L
Yeah
thanks
mayor-
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
to
partner
with
habitat
for
humanity.
I
attended
the
ribbon.
Cutting
a
few
months
back
here
about
was
about
a
block
or
two
away
from
city
hall.
Really
is
a
quality
house.
The
homeowner
was
super
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
community.
L
L
These,
I
think,
are
going
to
be
great
assets
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
and
help
build
the
neighborhood
up
as
well
too,
with
a
new
home
again,
the
homes
themselves
are
super
quality,
and
I
really
enjoy
the
the
fact
that
the
habitat
humanity
is
going
above
and
beyond
trying
to
find
the
the
best
residents
for
these
houses
for
tarpon
springs
and
providing
great
products.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity.
L
D
I
too
support
this
wholeheartedly.
I
was
at
the
ribbon
cutting
as
well.
I've
contributed
some
of
my
time
and
effort
in
painting
and
caulking.
In
some
of
these
places,
I
enjoy
the
smile
on
the
people's
face
when
they
actually
get
to
take
the
keys
and
they're
literally
it's
it's
a
sign
of
tears
that
are
coming
down.
So
what
you're
doing
is
god's
work,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
help
and
your
concern
for
others
and
thank
you
and
anything
we
can
do
to
help
we're
here,
for
you.
M
Yeah,
I'm
I
want
to
come
down
to
saying
I'm
in
full
support
for
anything
habitat
is
doing.
I
think,
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job.
I've
been
to
a
couple
of
openings
so
far.
Families
are
pleased.
Neighbors
are
pleased,
everybody's
pleased.
So
that's
excellent
one
small
thing.
The
proposal
summary
has
a
small
error
in
it
where
it
says
you're
going
to
develop
lots
into
four
two
single
family
homes.
I'm
sure
that's
just
a
typo,
I'm
sure
it's
just
two
homes,
all
right.
Thanks.
N
Thank
you.
I
was
able
to
attend
the
annual
conference,
the
breakfast
conference
that
we
had
down
off
of
in
st
petersburg
and
it
was
nice
to
see
the
operations
how
people
when
they
enter
the
program.
They
do
work
hard
to
be
able
to
obtain
those
houses
and
be
part
of
the
program.
My
only
suggestion,
and
completely
up
to
you
is
that
we
get
some
growing
families
that
can
grow
in
tarpon
springs
and
go
to
the
schools
and
nearby
and
be
part
of
this
community
for
a
long
time.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
L
Yes,
I've
got
one
more
question.
This
goes
to
the
city
manager.
Can
you
look?
I
thought
there
was
some
type
of
resolution
in
place
from
years
back
that
stated,
if
we,
if
the
city
sells
property,
those
funds
go
into
the
land
preservation
fund.
Is
that
I
just
recall
something
similar
to
that.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
actually
the
case,
can
you
just
do
some
research
and
come
back
to
the
board
with
that?
Please
sure.
A
L
Motion
to
approve
what
number
is
this
special
consent
agenda?
Number
nine,
with
the
funds
going
into
the
land
preservation
fund
for
future
land
purchases.
M
A
N
L
A
A
O
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
be
real
quick,
so
this
property,
1673
cbs
drive,
was
before
the
code
enforcement
board
on
six
or
seven
occasions,
six
or
seven
different
cases
for
violating
the
city's
code
section
relating
to
short-term
rental.
The
property
owner
was
there
on
numerous
occasions
by
way
of
attendance
by
zoom
or
by
telephone.
O
He
was
aware
of
the
fact
that
he
was
violating
the
city's
short-term
rental
ordinance
and
continue
to
do
it.
There
are
five
pending
cases
at
this
point
that
are
now
all
in
compliance.
There
is
an
outstanding
fine
of
approximately
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
that
was
as
of
april
15th
when
we
began
to
calculate
over
the
last
month,
or
so
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
attorney
that
represents
the
property
owner
and
come
to
an
understanding
that
the
property
owner
is
willing
to
pay
thirty
thousand
dollars.
O
In
exchange
for
a
release
of
all
these
code
enforcement,
liens
totaling
approximately
hundred
eight
thousand
dollars,
the
property
is
no
longer
in
the
name
of
mr
tim
miller,
the
owner
that
had
been
cited,
it
has
been
sold
for
one
million
one
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
money
is
probably
in
escrow
that
would
pay
this
dollar
amount.
O
A
You,
mr
ms,
graham,
do
you
have
any
comments.
P
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
commission,
first
of
all,
congratulations
and
welcome
nice
to
see
all
of
you
up
there.
I'm
here
representing
mr
tamillo
tonight
and
all
I
can
say
is
I
have
had
lots
of
conversations
with
city
attorney
trask.
They
have
been
constructive
conversations.
We've
come
to
an
agreement
of
30
000.
You
have
in
your
87
page
packet,
a
two
sec,
two
sentence,
email
from
me,
but
I
assure
you
that
there's
quite
a
bit
behind
that.
I
can
tell
you
that.
P
Actually,
I
won't
go
into
any
more
detail
unless
you
have
any
other
questions,
but
I
I
do
think
that
it's
in
the
interest
of
the
city
and
my
client
to
settle
this.
C
M
Vice
mayor
alone,
so
the
property
was
recently
purchased,
was
the
amount
of
the
current
liens
known
at
that
time
and
was
the
full
amount
of
that
placed
into
escrow.
M
D
So
my
question-
and
this
has
come
up
before
I
just
don't
understand-
why
we
keep
coming
up
with
penalties
of
a
hundred
thousand
eighty
thousand
seventy
thousand
dollars,
and
then
we
wind
up
settling
for
thirty
thousand
or
twenty
thousand.
I
can
understand
if
there's
a
value
and
a
a
valuable
reason
for
it,
but
this
particular
case
has
96
separate
pages
of
complaints
from
you
know:
beth
hughes,
sending
out
just
hundreds
of
emails,
the
clerk
having
to
deal
with
it.
We
have
so
many
different
people
involved
with
this.
D
If
you
don't
have
any
penalty,
then
what
we
do
is
we
set
a
precedence
that
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
a
hundred
thousand,
if
it's
500
000
we're
going
to
settle
for
something
lower.
So
what
is
the
purpose
of
setting
these
targets,
which
is
which
is
my
big
question?
It
just
the
the
crime
doesn't
fit
the
punishment
or,
I
should
say
the
punishment
doesn't
fit
the
crime.
D
I'm
not
even
discussing
the
fact
whether
I
see
most
of
the
penalties
were
for
out-of-state
cars,
but
most
of
the
comments-
and
I
read
a
lot
of
them-
your
client
seems
to
be
arguing
with
beth
there.
Our
code
enforcement
that
other
people
have
out
of
state
plates
so
is
he
does
he
feel
justified
that
he
has
been
using
this
as
an
airbnb
and
has
out
of
state
plates
and
everybody
else
on
sea
breeze
that
has
a
legitimate
guest.
D
If
I
invite
someone
from
maine
and
they're
staying
at
my
house,
I
should
get
a
fine,
because
he's
got
a
airbnb.
It
was
like
every
single
email
that
was
sent
was
argumentative
to
just
bother
our
code
enforcement
and
to
tithe
her
up
in
in
just
what
I
would
call
a
waste
of
time
of
city
funds.
So
my
comment
to
you
is:
why
should
we
reduce
this
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
when
we've
been
constantly
harassed?
This
is
not
a
one
and
done
90
pages.
We're
talking
about.
P
P
The
most
important
thing
that
you
should
know
is
that
the
108
thousand
dollar
number
that
you're
looking
at
is
mostly
comprised
of
the
final
code
case,
which
totaled
around
99
000..
Now
that
final
code
case
there's
a
issue
with
notice,
because
the
notice
of
order
imposing
penalty
in
lien
was
dated
june
21st.
P
P
My
client
does
not
dispute
that
he
had
violated
the
previous
cases.
I
would
argue
that
most
of
the
documents
that
are
in
that
packet
that
you've
been
provided
with
are
actually
irrelevant
to
the
issue
at
hand,
because
most
of
it
is
about
this
notice
issue.
Now
mr
trask
and
I
had
gone
back
and
forth
and
what
my
client
had
done
is.
P
He
had
provided
a
printout
of
the
dates
with
where
he
admitted
that
he
was
out
of
compliance
and
he
came
to
53
days,
and
that
is
where
the
city
and
my
client
came
to
an
agreement
which
totaled
26
000.
For
this
final
case
now,
as
far
as
the
other
cases,
we
came
to
an
agreement
of
thirty
thousand
to
settle
everything
else.
P
There
are
a
number
of
other
issues
that
we
could
get
into,
which,
if
you
want
to,
I
can
involving
selective
enforcement,
which
I
don't
think
it's
really
helpful
to
get
into
those
details
now.
But
my
client
does
have
valid
issues
involving
selective
enforcement,
one
of
which
is
that
during
the
the
hearing
in
front
of
the
code
enforcement
board
in
may,
he
had
a
gentleman
first
of
all
he
wanted
to
appear
by
zoom.
He
could
not
appear
by
zoom.
P
A
gentleman
who
he
knew
appeared
there's
actually
a
question
as
to
whether
it
was
even
his
agent
or
not,
but
he
did
try
to
speak
to
some
issues
of
selective
enforcement
as
a
defense.
He
was
silenced
and
there
is
case
law
that
says
that
you
that
selective
enforcement
is
a
valid
defense
to
code
enforcement
violations
and
that
that
would
be
a
due
process
violation.
So
I
mean
that
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
of
a
detail
of
why
we
are
here
and
how
we
got
here.
Mr
tamillo
sold
the
property.
P
He
will
not
be
back
in
tarpon
springs.
This
will
not
be
a
repeat
violation,
and
the
other
thing,
I
would
say
is
as
far
as
the
fine
itself,
which
in
may
had
been
levied
at
the
amount
of
five
hundred
dollars
a
day,
something
else
that
mr
tamillo
had
done.
Is
we
in
a
letter
that
I
had
sent
to
mr
trask.
P
He
had
looked
at
all
the
dates
that
he
had
sell,
that
he
had
rented
out
the
property
and
averaged
the
amount
of
money
which
was
around
300
and
we
recalculated
that,
and
so
we
think
that
500
a
day
is
not.
It
goes
beyond
the
gravity
of
the
violation
itself,
and
so
I
mean
that
we
could
we
I
could
keep
going
on,
but
all
I
can
say
is
you
know
I
had.
We
have
gone
back
and
forth.
We
think
that
30
000
would
be
a
fair
amount.
P
We
had
originally
argued
for
less
and
the
other
thing
is
that
to
wait
to
have
this
heard
tonight,
we
have
actually
put
in
jeopardy
a
potential
appeal
of
the
code
enforcement
board.
There's
another
issue
involving
a
read,
a
misreading
of
a
policy
which
I
will
not
get
into
right
now.
A
A
Thank
you,
ms
graham
mr
trask
you're
invited
to
jump
in
anytime.
You
want,
or
if
you
don't
have
anything
right
now,
let's
go
to
mr
carr
or
coach.
D
In
a
car
hold
on,
I'm
sorry
you're
not
done.
I
was
waiting.
I
was
waiting
for
so
you
make
mention
to
a
number
of
situations,
and
I
read
some
of
the
cases
that
state
he
didn't
get
some
of
the
notifications,
and
I
can
appreciate
that.
But
we
have
a
system
that
when
somebody
is
actually
out
of
the
country
traveling
for
work,
they
have
medical
issues.
I
can
buy
that,
but
he's
been
using
this
as
an
airbnb
and
not
living
there
or
partially
living
there,
and
that
is
not
an
excuse
for
not
getting.
D
You
know
our
code
enforcement
cannot
play
and
excuse
my
freshman
expression
whack-a-mole
to
try
to
find
where
your
client
is
and
that's
what
I'm
reading
has
happened
here.
It's
not
that
he
just
didn't
get
it
he's
nowhere
to
be
found.
He's
also
responded
in
here
that
he
was
refusing
to
come
before
the
code
enforcement
and
be
heard
because
of
whatever
reasons
he
came
up
with.
So
this
is
not
a
one
and
done
type
thing.
This
is
an
ongoing
process.
D
I
know
you
made
mention
of
a
difference
between
a
300
income
which
it's
illegal,
because
we
don't
have
airbnb
on
that
street
and
he's
being
charged
500.
But
what
do
you
do
when
you
have
someone
who's
constantly
breaking
the
law?
We
don't
lower
the
fee
for
law
breaking.
We
raise
it
to
try
to
get
you
in
compliance,
and
now
we
have
it
in
compliance-
and
you
say
he
won't
be
here
anymore
because
he
can't
make
a
profit
off
of
it
by
selling
the
property.
It's
not
an
airbnb,
it's
a
house!
D
P
Well,
with
due
respect,
commissioner
eisner,
I
would
say
that
my
client
he
admits
that
he
did
wrong.
He
has
not
been
profiting
off
it
now
for
some
time,
and
there
are
numerous
issues
which
I
mentioned,
which
he
will
be
willing
to
litigate
and
with
as
again
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city.
We
believe
to
settle
this.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
the
issue
of
punitive
versus
curing-
I
mean
I,
you
know
I
I
do
understand
your
position.
P
What
I
would
say
to
that
is
the
thirty
thousand
dollars
is
actually
based
off
the
total
amount
of
five
hundred
dollars.
If
you
do
the
breakdown,
what
we
had
originally
asked
for
is
around
15
000,
which
was
based
on
the
300-ish
dollars,
but
the
500,
the
the
30
000,
is
based
on
the
total
amount.
D
You
have
many
many
pages
that
I
read
through
and
it
it
seems
like
it
was
a
cat
and
mouse
game
for
quite
some
time,
and
I
I
just
read
not
that
there
was
any
apology
in
it.
There
was
not
a
situation.
Let
me
just
explain
is
what
I'm
saying
by
not
an
apology.
P
Commissioner
eisner,
I
would
say
the
following.
First
of
all,
I
think
that
the
fact
that
you
have
been
provided
87
pages
of
those
emails
without
my
file
of
the
letters
that
I
have
sent,
mr
trask,
is
somewhat
prejudicial.
I
think
that
you
are
that
you,
you
have
not
been
given
the
full
picture.
My
client
does
have
remorse.
I
had
put
that
in
an
email
I
mean
in
a
letter
he
says,
mr.
A
Okay,
what
what
what
I'd
like
to
do
is,
if
there's
something
more
substantive,
I
would
ask
a
courtesy
to
let
the
other
commissioners
have
an
opportunity.
C
M
I
just
have
two
clarifications,
so
your
client
is
mr
tamilo.
That's.
C
C
O
M
So
your
clients,
understanding
with
you,
was
that
you
could
resolve
this
at
a
later
date,
but
your
client
doesn't
have
any
interest
in
the
property
a
question.
The
lien
is
on
the
property
at
question
and
the
money
for
the
fines
have
been
in
escrow
on
that
property
since
it
was
purchased.
Is
this
not
all
correct.
P
M
L
And
this
is
a
repeat
offender,
five
times
five
times,
okay,
a
couple
statements:
this
is
a
unique
situation,
I
would
say
for
sure.
Typically,
we
as
a
board
haven't
seen
code
enforcement
reduction
requests
come
back
after
a
saleable
property.
That
is
a
pretty
unique
situation.
L
The
biggest
thing
with
code
enforcement
is
that
we're
in
compliance
and
that
the
neighbors
are
happy
that
the
house
is
probably
sold.
I
don't
know
the
individuals
who
purchased
it,
it's
in
the
it's
in
public
records,
though
you
could
see
it
online,
so
I
think
the
neighborhood's
probably
happy
about
it
now
do
I
think
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
obsessive.
L
N
I
think
we're
overthinking
this
too
much.
Both
the
attorneys
have
come
to
an
agreement
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
correct.
That's.
N
P
Yes,
well,
I
think.
As
far
as
example,
my
client
has
provided
a
website
that
shows
the
different
airbnb
rentals
within
the
zoning
district.
C
P
N
Okay,
we
are
aware
of
this
airbnb
situation,
that's
going
on
in
our
town,
outside
of
certain
areas
that
are
zoned
the
way
they
are.
I
think
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
that
we
accept
is
thirty
thousand
dollars.
The
person
has
sold
the
property.
They've
moved
on
our
code
enforcement
officer
is
no
longer
our
code
enforcement
officer,
so
I
don't
even
know.
What's
gonna
happen
with
our
code
enforcement
period
and
as
far
as
the
fines,
five
hundred
dollars
a
day,
I
think
they're
obsessive,
I
think,
they're,
absolutely
ridiculous.
N
You
they
went
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Our
city
made
a
statement.
Our
city
attorneys
worked
with
them
to
make
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
agreement.
Let's
accept
the
money
and
move
on.
If
we're
going
to
do
this,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
set
precedent
on
all
these
airbnbs
and
punish
everybody,
and
we
just
made
reductions
in
the
past,
for
private
citizens
weigh
less.
So,
let's
have
some
consistency
with
working
with
these
people
working
with
people
wanting
to
make
offers
and
move
forward
we're
getting
stuck
on.
N
A
Okay,
from
my
perspective,
I
there's
a
lot
of
history
to
code
enforcement,
there's
reasons
for
doing
everything,
incentives
why
we
reduce
the
fines
and-
and
I
think
mr
trask
is
available
anytime-
anybody
wishes
to
discuss
that
with
them.
I
think
that
for
this
particular
matter,
we're
not
going
to
solve
the
code
enforcement
issues
this
evening
on
this
item,
I
completely
agree
with
commissioner
eisner.
A
I
mean
I
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
and
it's
very
frustrating
to
do
this
and
and
we
tend
to
play
games
with
code
enforcement
and,
quite
frankly
the
the
stress
and
and
the
workload
is,
was
on
our
code
enforcement
officer,
ms
hughes,
and
she
just
follows
the
rules
and
unfortunately,
she
has
to
to
put
up
with
it
as
well.
A
In
any
case,
I
don't
have
any
other
comments
to
make.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
this
item
with
a
second.
L
D
People
are
involved,
the
city
clerk's
involved,
so
many
people
involved,
I
mean
I'll,
go
along
with
it,
but
in
the
future
we
need
to
work
on
this
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
handle
this,
because
I
am
honestly,
I
understand
the
other
commissioners
thinking
that
you
know
we
should
just
move
on,
but
something
I
I
just
want
to
say.
One
other
thing
that
there's
something
like
this:
that
beth
hughes,
who
I've
watched
many
times
be
up
in
front,
says
the
patients
had
the
patience
of
a
saint
and
something
like
this.
D
When
you
read
this,
if
it's
your
job
to
do,
it
is
the
one
item
that
could
just
make
or
break
a
code
enforcement
person
to
have
to
fight
make
sure
that
every
dot
is
dotted.
Every
t
is
crossed
and
we've
lost
her,
and
it
could
very
well
be
that
we
lost
her
for
not
only
this
type
of
case
but
for
other
kind
of
cases.
So
I
don't
want
to
commend
people
and
and
pat
him
on
the
back
that
we've
negotiated
for
a
lower
cost.
The
course
that
we
had
is
we
lost
bath.
A
A
We're
not
up
here
to
to
to
do
consensus,
type
votes,
and
if
you
feel
strongly
that
things
need
to
be
fixed,
that's
the
way
you
need
to
vote.
I
mean
I
voted
no
a
lot
of
times
when
the
other
commissioners
voted.
Yes,
so
don't
worry
about
that.
I
think
that
there
was
work
that
needs
to
be
done.
I
just
think
that
there's
a
better
time
to
do
it-
and
I
just
want
to
get
this
item
behind
us,
so
we
can
move
on.
D
Can
I
answer
one
more
thing
I
mean
I
just
want
to
read
one
line
where
it
says
here:
we're
not
aware
of
any
complaint
initiated
by
this
person
against
so-and-so
for
short-term
rental.
What
about
two
other
advertisements
for
short-term
rentals
on
sea
breeze?
So
again,
he's
he's
not
addressing
his
issue,
he's
blaming
others,
I'm
doing
okay,
because
you're
doing
wrong.
Also,
why
aren't
they
picking
on
you?
This
is
not
somebody
who's
agreeing
to
solving
anything.
So
I
understand
that's
my
complaint.
Okay,.
P
It's
it's
just
something
I
I
do
want
to
draw
your
attention
to.
You
might
read
those
emails
and
communications
and
not
like
my
client
and
you
are
100-
have
your
you're
entitled
to
that
opinion.
I
do
want
to
just
make
sure
you
are
aware
that
the
the
number
of
26
000
is
something
that
actually
lisa
mercier
and
the
code
enforcement
board
recommendation.
P
C
P
A
It
there
let's
send
it
there.
No
sorry,
commissioner,
roll
call
please.
Q
A
D
O
Mayor
commissioners,
resolution
2022-19,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
establishing
june
18
as
hope
day
in
tarpon
springs
recognizing
and
honoring,
the
pioneers
and
founders
of
the
city
and
commemorating
the
importance
of
the
traditions
that
define
tarpon
springs
and
cherish
the
city's
hope
for
the
future.
That
was
a
reading
of
resolution.
A
Thank
you.
This
is
an
annual
event
that
we
do
on
june
14th,
which
commemorates
the
first
day
that
the
helmeted
sponge
diving
boats
left
port.
They
left
under
sail,
and
we
tend
to
roll
a
lot
of
things
in
there
as
far
as
trying
to
brighten
tarpon
springs
future,
and
I
invite
everybody
to
come
to
sponge
docks
by
the
statue
at
5
p.m.
On
saturday,
to
celebrate
this
with
everybody
else,
that's
there
are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
this
item.
A
Mr
jump:
are
there
any
remote
access
items?
Comments
concerning
this
item.
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
carr
I've.
D
I
I'm
just
all
for
it
I'll
be
there
and
I
think
it's
fantastic,
and
I
appreciate
that.
You
brought
that
up.
N
O
This
is
resolution
2022-16,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida,
approving
application
number
2240,
requesting
conditional
use
approval
to
allow
for
a
commercial
recreation
use,
guided
kayak
tours
at
1060,
north
pinellas
avenue
and
the
t5d
transect
zone
of
the
special
area
plan
providing
for
findings
providing
for
conditions
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
There
was
a
reading
of
resolution
2022-16
by
title.
Only
I'll
read
the
quasi-procedures.
O
This
is
a
quadratus
proceeding
where
the
board
of
commissioners
acts
in
a
causation
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law.
That's
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact,
a
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
O
A
Okay,
ms
vincent
is
the
applicant
here:
okay,
is
there
any
new
information?
That's
come
forward
since
the
pnc
board
on
this
item.
No.
J
A
Okay,
ms
vinson,
with
your
okay,
yes,
okay,
ms
vincent,
please
make
a
presentation.
J
Thank
you.
This
is
application
22-40.
This
is
a
conditional
use,
application
for
property
located
just
on
the
ankle
river
across
from
where
the
old
papas
restaurant
used
to
be.
This
is
the
location
of
the
site
on
north
pinellas
avenue
it's
vacant.
Now
it's
kind
of
casually
and
useless
parking
through
the
years.
J
The
property
is
in
the
5d
north
pinellas
avenue
transect
zone.
In
our
smart
code.
We
don't
really
have
recreation
uses
called
out
as
a
use
really
anywhere
in
the
smart
code.
So
we've
been
handling
these
by
way
of
just
treating
them
as
a
conditional
use
and
bringing
them
to
the
board.
So
the
the
proposed
use
is
appropriate
to
the
property
there.
It's
basically
it's
guided
kayak
tours
the
the
they'll
store,
the
kayaks
there.
You
won't
be
able
to
bring
your
own
kayak
and
go.
J
So
this
is
the
property
with
the
orientation
being
north.
Here
they
do
intend
to
clean
the
property
up.
The
parking
will
be
along
here,
they'll
just
store
the
kayaks
on
site
and
just
kind
of
some
conceptual
plans,
or
do
we
want
to
add
some
landscaping
to
the
site
clean
things
up
a
bit?
They
have
a
nice
write-up
in
their
business
plan
about
how
they
want
to
you
know,
increase
pollinators
on
the
property
and
bring
birds
and
bees
back
to
the
property
and
just
generally
make
it
more
conducive
to
the
area.
J
As
I
said,
this
is
in
the
special
area
plan.
It's
in
the
sponge,
docs
character,
district
tourist
oriented
uses
are
part
of
the
intent
of
this
district,
so
that
fits
for
the
review
criteria
for
the
conditional
uses.
Obviously
conformance
of
the
land
development
code
is
the
use
appropriate
to
the
property
in
question
and
compatible
with
the
area.
J
Consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
adverse,
no
adverse
impacts
to
historical
or
environmental
resources,
and
no
adverse
effects
to
property
values
and
there's
really
no
public
facilities
that
need
to
be
provided
for
this
type
of
use
on
the
property
and
it
it's
it's.
A
nice
use
on
a
vacant
property
as
it
sits
today.
J
Staff
recommendation
is
to
approve
resolution
2022-16,
granting
a
conditional
use
approval
for
the
operation
of
a
commercial
recreation
use
in
the
t5
t5d
transect
district.
We
do
have
three
specific
conditions.
The
kayak
launch
shall
only
be
used
for
guided
kayak
tours
and
not
available
to
use
by
the
general
public,
jet
skis
and
other
motorized
watercraft
shall
not
be
permitted
and
all
applicable
state
or
county
permits
shall
be
obtained
for
access
to
the
anclote
river.
J
We
have
not
heard
any
public
support
or
opposition
really
in
in
terms
of
in
writing.
We
did
have
one
person
that
spoke
in
favor
at
the
planning
and
zoning
board,
and
the
planning
and
zoning
board
did
recommend
approval
unanimously
on
may
16th
at
their
regular
meeting
on
this
for
this
application.
So
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Thank
you.
A
J
A
Okay,
the
mayor
accepts
the
presentation:
does
the
applicant
wish
to
make
a
presentation.
R
I
said
my
name
is
austin.
Wood
address
is
3471
pinehurst
drive
holiday,
three
four,
six,
nine
one.
The
planning
and
zoning
team
have
done
a
great
job
in
the
last
three
or
four
months,
working
with
everything
everything's
been
described,
really
really.
Well,
it's
three
tours
a
day
guided
tours
per
day
nine
to
12
people
per
tour,
very
focused
on
on
the
environment.
It's
ecotourism,
it's
not
finding
out
where
manatees
are
going
to
be,
and
then
covering
that
area.
Time
and
time
again,
it's
it's
being
down
the
river.
R
If
we
see
wildlife,
that's
fantastic,
but
we're
not
kind
of
crowding
wildlife,
and
I
will
add
I've
spoken
to
various
different
members
of
the
city,
business
owners.
I've
still
not
come
across
somebody
that
thinks
this
is
a
bad
idea,
which
has
has
been
great,
even
people
that
I
come
into
contact
with
that
fish
in
the
area.
You
may
have
seen
people
like
park
up
there
and
fish
from
time
to
time.
I've
kind
of
let
them
know
that
we're
moving
in
and
they're
supportive
too.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
affected
parties
here
in
attendance
concerning
this
matter.
I
Here
at
lax,
514,
ashland
avenue:
this
is
what
I've
been
talking
about
for
years.
You've
heard
me,
echo
tourism,
and
if
you
looked
in
his
packet,
ecotourism
is
defined
commonly
as
responsible
travel
to
natural
areas
that
conserves
the
environment
and
improves
the
well-being
of
local
people
and
involves
interpretation
education.
I
I
know
austin's
a
little
new
to
this
he's
a
little
shy,
maybe,
but
I'm
going
to
two
to
horn
for
them
they
are
with
nature's
classroom
institute,
which
is
a
montessori
school
that
focuses
on
education,
and
you
set
up
a
place
in
palm
harbor
at
camp
wailani,
and
I
remember
reading
about
setting
up
the
campsites.
I
Also
in
here.
I'd
like
to
point
out.
The
route
will
consist
of
mangrove
exploration,
discussion
about
invasive
species
such
as
australian
pines
trip
through
some
of
the
narrow
areas
and
tours
around
oyster
bars,
and
also
he
mentions
that
it
will
also
add
a
small
number
of
jobs
to
the
tourists
to
help
keep
the
river
clean,
because
I
know
when
I
kayak
I
take
a
bag
and
I'm
picking
up
bottles
or
you
wouldn't
believe,
sometimes
some
of
the
things
you
find.
But
I
want
to
comment
a
little
bit
more
on
your
staff
report.
I
Appropriate
to
the
property
in
question
you've
seen
it
the
north
side
of
the
bridge,
it's
private
property,
it's
not
public,
so
those
people
fishing
that
he's
trying
to
also
respect
are
in
essence,
trespassing.
So
I'm
sure
there
will
be
maybe
something.
But
the
fact
is
it's.
The
proper
use
of
this
property
best
use
appropriate
to
the
proper
in
question
pro
pro's
use
serves
as
both
a
local
and
tourist
attraction.
Therefore
supporting
the
overall
intent
of
this
sponge
doc
character.
District
number
two
number:
three
consistent
with
the
goals,
policies
and
objectives.
I
I
Conditional
use
will
not
adversely
affect
the
joining
properties,
probably
raise
the
property
value,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
cleaner
area
and
they're
going
to
fix
it
up
and
but
the
adverse
impacts,
the
environmental.
It's
actually
going
to
be
a
positive
because
one
we're
going
to
be
allowing
people
to
come
to
tarpon
and
learn
about
our
ankle
river
and
the
natural
beauty
we
have
now.
I
know
this
site
is
about
direct
line:
half
mile
kayaking
wise
three
quarters
to
a
mile
up
to
the
walmart
property.
I
These
are
the
things
that
people
come
to
your
areas.
You
have
the
potential
to
advertise
your
city
as
an
eco-tourism,
place.
You've
got
howard
park.
You've
got
the
north
anklet
river
nature
park.
You've
got
anderson
park.
You've
got
a
lot
of
these
little
pocket
parks.
You've
got
the
tours
that
go
out
to
the
anclote
island.
I
I
A
E
Hi,
thank
you,
david
ballard,
gettys
jr.
I
live
at
georgia
avenue
at
palm
harbor.
I
may
be
ill-advised
as
to
how
the
the
proper
use
of
this
property
has
been
used.
In
the
past.
I
have
accessed
the
anclote
river.
E
As
you
know,
canoe
drop
off
point
in
the
past,
as,
as
you
know,
a
civilian
would
that
be
denied
me.
Would
I
be
denied
my
access?
Should
I
ever
want
to
bring
my
own
personal
canoe
and
use
that
as
a
drop
off
point
in
the
future?
Should
this
go
through?
E
I
like
having
access
to
the
river,
and
I
feel
as
though
this
would
deny
me
my
my
liberty
to
to
use
a
canoe
at
that
particular
point.
Would
it
be
just
solely
used
for
the
rentals
only
and
deny
me
that
right?
Thank
you.
A
A
Thank
you,
mr
trump.
I
think
I
could
recognize
the
applicant
to
come
forward
and
answer
a
question.
You're
allowed
to
do
any
rebuttal
and
I
think
an
answer
to
a
question
would
be
fair.
A
R
No
you're
good,
okay,
so
actually
the
the
land
has
always
been
private,
so
people
have
used
it
but
effectively
they've
been
trespassing
and
it's
just
sometimes
been
enforced.
Sometimes
not.
There
is
down
the
river
near
the
splash
park,
a
very,
very
good
public
access
boat
launch,
that's,
maybe
a
block
down
that
is
accessible,
so
yeah
some
of
the
public
can
still
use
it
if
they
happen
to
be
there.
Fishing
at
10
pm,
for
example.
A
Thank
you,
ms
vinson,
do
you
have
a
closing
summary
no.
J
A
Okay,
let's
close
the
public
hearing
and
let's
go
to
commission
comments.
Any
commissioners
have
any
comments.
Vice
mayor,
lunt.
M
I'm
perfectly
forthis,
I
think
it's
a
great
use
of
the
property
as
it
stands,
I
think
it'll
do
help
for
our
tourist
industry
and
ecotourism
and
I'm
all
for
it.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Carr.
L
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
asset
to
the
community.
I
think
it
complements
well
to
the
kayak
launch
that
we
have
publicly
just
down
the
road
looking
forward
to
participating
in
the
future
and
seeing
the
growth
that
could
happen
here
in
the
situation.
So
thank
you
both
to
the
applicant
and
the
property
owner.
D
I
also
agree
it's
going
to
be
an
asset
to
the
area.
I
appreciate
you
doing
it.
I've
passed
by
them
many
times
and
there's
just
debris
floating
through
there,
and
I
I
know
I
can
tell
that
you
will
not
have
that
happen.
I
I'm
thrilled
that
you're
going
to
make
that
investment
and
it
will
bring
tourists
to
use
the
that
kayak
area,
and
I
just
support
what
you're
planning
on
doing.
I
appreciate
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner.
No.
N
A
A
L
To
approve
mayor
with
the
three
conditions
from
city
staff.
N
N
A
B
A
A
Move
on
to
does
any
commissioner
wish
to
take
a
break.
O
So
this
item
agenda,
item
number
16
is
the
application
22-34
livery
stable?
This
is
the
applicant
is
cocalacus.
It's
10108
north
ring
avenue.
O
A
I
was
going
to
we
can
for
convenience,
but
I
do
want
to
vote
on
unless
it
depends
on
how
it
goes,
but
2022-12,
second,
as
far
as
a
vote,
but
we
can
lump
them
in
together
for
the
discussion.
A
O
O
So
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
relative
to
the
zoning
ordinance
where
the
board
of
commissioners
acts
in
a
quasi-register
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
O
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
if
the
competent
substantial,
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances
and
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
you
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria,
establish
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
O
O
O
A
To
go
and
read
that
is
the
future
land
use
that's
quasi-judicial
as
well.
O
A
Do
them
together,
yeah
and
then
you're
going
to
vote
on
them
separately
following
okay,
so
is
the
applicants
here
is
attention?
Is
there
anything
new?
That's
been
added
to
this
package
that
wasn't
available
to
the
pnc
board.
F
A
Then
ms
vincent
miss
vincent
go
ahead
and
make
your
presentation.
J
J
There
is
a
there's,
a
single
family
house,
on
this
parcel
that
was
moved
back
in
2015
from
across
the
street,
in
association
with
the
ring
avenue
apartments
townhomes
being
built,
and
then
this
is
the
delivery
stable
building.
I
think
most
people
know
you
know,
recognize
it
in
town.
It's
a
two-story
masonry
vernacular.
You
know
built
at
the
time
as
a
commercial
structure,
but
for
the
last
many
years
it's
been
a
single
family
operated
as
or
maintained
as
a
single
family
home.
J
So
the
request
tonight
is
to
amend
the
land
use
and
the
zoning
on
the
property.
Currently
it's
in
residential
urban,
which
is
a
residential,
only
land
use
district,
and
the
proposal
is
to
take
it
into
the
crd,
the
community
redevelopment
district
designation.
J
The
zoning
currently
is
conditional
residential
mix,
which
is
just
what
it
sounds
conditional
residential,
so
a
range
of
residential
uses,
and
then
the
proposed
zoning
would
be
special
area
plan
and
then
to
kind
of
further
qualify.
The
land
use
and
zoning
being
asked
for
within
our
special
area
plan
and
I'll
talk
a
little
more
about
this.
We
have
10
character
districts,
so
this
would
become
part
of
the
downtown
character
district
and
then,
within
our
smart
code,
the
transect
base
code,
it
would
become
designated
as
t4a
residential,
the
retail
and
office
district.
J
So,
as
I
stated
before,
this
is
the
the
two-story
building
concrete
block.
You
know
masonry
vernacular.
This
first
appears
in
on
the
1909
and
the
1913
sanborn
map.
So
it's
historically,
it's
it's
been
around
for
a
long
time.
It
was
actually
a
livery
stable
way
back
in
the
past.
In
1926
it
it
was
identified
on
the
sanborn
maps,
actually
as
a
hotel
and
then
in
later
years,
as
an
apartment.
J
As
I
stated,
the
single-family
home
here
was
moved
from
this
area
when
this
was
when
the
the
ring
avenue
townhomes
were
being
developed.
Both
of
these
are
contributing
structures
in
the
historic
district,
so
this
is
kind
of
the
existing
surrounding
land
use.
You
can
see.
This
is
all
residential
urban
here
to
the
south
across
orange
avenue
is
residential
office
general
and
then
across
ring
avenue
is
the
the
community
development
district
boundary
and
then
looking
at
zooming
out
a
little
bit
with
regard
to
the
special
area
plan.
J
As
you
know,
the
special
area
plan
has
10
different
character
districts.
The
downtown
district
is
here,
and
the
star
represents
the
area
where
we
would
essentially
be
adding
that
property
into
the
to
the
special
area
plan
and
it
does
recognize
it
is
a
mixed
use,
type
of
of
of
special
area
plan.
But
it
is
meant
to
respect
the
you
know
the
historic
importance
and
character
of
the
area.
J
Again
so
the
downtown
character
district
is
outlined
in
red
and
that's
what,
within
the
special
area
plan
that
would
be
the
sub
character
district
that
would
be
proposed
under
the
current
land
use.
The
the
residential
density
is
seven
and
a
half
units
to
the
acre
under
the
proposed
downtown
character
district.
It
would
go
to
15.
J
right
now,
the
maximum
density
on
the
property.
What
that
would
allow
would
be
two
units
under
the
existing
land
use
so
essentially,
which
is
what
you
have
now
the
single
family
house
and
then
the
two-story
masonry
structure
basically
could
be
used
as
one
single
family
home
under
the
proposed
downtown
character
district.
You
would
be,
you
would
be
allowed
up
to
a
maximum
of
five
units
on
those
two
two
properties
combined.
So
that
would
be
the
magnitude
of
increase
in
residential
density
available
to
the
property.
J
M
J
J
Just
a
little
bit
of
a
comparison,
I
won't
go
through
these
every
one
of
these.
I
think
the
thing
that's
important
to
note
that
as
the
the
especially
the
two-story
structure,
as
it
sits
now,
really
is
not
conforming
with
the
crm
district
for
setbacks
or
anything
under
the
proposed
t4a.
It
becomes
conforming
for
setbacks,
which,
which
is
nice.
J
There
have
been
some
inquiries
about.
You
know
from
that
we've
heard
in
the
office.
You
know
our
short-term
rentals,
a
possibility
in
the
in
the
t4a
transect.
You
could
do
short-term
rentals,
but
it
would
have
to
be
you'd
have
to
get
a
conditional
use,
so
it
would
have
to
come
through
through
another
hearing
process.
In
order
to
do
that,
mr
cocolocus
may
speak
to
what
his
intended
uses
are.
At
this
point,
I
think
he's
just
looking
to
be
able
to
get
something.
J
Besides,
you
know
one
single
family,
you
know
home
in
a
4,
000
plus
square
foot,
commercial
building,
so
so
under
a
review
criteria
for
the
land
use
map.
Amendment
basically,
are
you
know,
you're
reviewing
it
for
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
policies
and
consistency
with
the
countywide
plan.
J
This
will
go
to
to
ford
pinellas
and
to
the
county
wide
planning
authority
to
actually
this
is
a
it's
a
it's
a
land
use
map
amendment
that
they
will
have
to
approve
as
an
addition
to
what
they
call
it
as
an
activity
center
on
their
map,
the
rezoning
criteria,
you
know
again,
you're
looking
for
consistency
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
Is
it
appropriate
to
the
property
in
question
and
compatible
with
existing
and
planned
uses
in
the
area?
J
Looking
at
growth
patterns
in
the
area
and
the
ability
for
the
city
to
provide
public
facilities,
will
it
adversely
impact
or
exceed
capacity
of
the
of
the
city
to
be
able
to
provide
public
facilities?
J
So
it
you
know
based
upon
this
and
all
the
re,
the
review
criteria
in
the
presentation,
as
well
as
the
more
extensive
review
analysis?
That's
in
the
the
agenda
backup
I
would
recom
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
approve
ordinance
22-12
amending
the
future
land
use
map
from
residential
urban
to
crd
and
designating
the
site
in
the
downtown
character.
J
The
planning
and
zoning
board
reviewed
this
at
may
on
may
16th,
and
they
did
recommend
approval
by
anonymous
vote.
There
was
one
member
of
the
public
who
did
speak
in
favor
of
the
application
at
the
hearing,
so
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions
at
the
appropriate
time.
Thank
you.
J
Yes,
that's
an
excellent
question,
so
the
community
redevelopment
area
is
is
a
separate
plan,
and
that
is
also
what
is
associated
with
the
redevelopment
trust
fund
in
the
tif
district.
So
by
expanding
this
for
the
special
area
plan
that
which
is
different,
you
will
not
be
this.
This
property
won't
become
part
of
the
tif
district.
It
won't
get
that
benefit.
Nor
will
the
city
get
that
benefit
frankly,
but
so
they
are
they're.
Two
separate
things
did
that
answer.
A
Okay,
mr
kukalakis,
do
you
have
any
cross-examination
for
ms
vincent
any
questions
for
okay.
Q
Good
evening
joe
coccolicas,
one
of
us
to
drive
dining
in
florida,
I
don't
have
a
presentation
frankly,
because
this
is
a
work
in
progress,
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
guiding
me
through
this
process,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
preserve
a
beautiful
building
that
I
think
is
integral
to
the
the
heritage
of
tarpon
springs,
especially.
You
know
that
little
neighborhood
that
we
got
there
that
we've
been
working
on
where
my
office
has
been
for
the
last
33
years.
Q
That
building
for
a
long
time
has
been
something
where
we've
all
passed.
It
and
kind
of
hoped
something
interesting
and
something
cool
and
something
that
would
contribute
to
the
neighborhood
could
be
done
with
it.
We're
you
know,
have
all
sorts
of
concepts
in
mind,
but
rest
assured
that
every
one
of
those
concepts
will
preserve
the
integrity
of
the
building
itself.
Q
Will
you
know
serve
as
a
kind
of
a
catalyst
that
will
add
to
an
already
you
know,
quickly,
growing
downtown
on
tarbon
avenue
and
and
I'm
open
to
ideas
and
suggestions
and
anxious
to
work
with
staff
to
put
something
special.
There.
N
Hi,
mr
cockas
delivery
stable
right.
Now,
it's
considered
a
single-family
home.
What
do
you
expect
to
be
doing
the
build
out
for
do
you
have
a
certain
amount
of
units
for
that?
One
delivery,
stable.
Q
Well,
I
thought
right
now.
Its
recent
most
recent
use
was
a
single
family
home
for
the
the
fam
well
family,
that
owned
it,
and
my
thoughts
are
that
it
could
serve
as
a
a
quaint
little
hotel.
We
looked,
I
had
ed
hoffman.
Do
some
schematics
put
together
some
sketches
with
bob
that
showed
a
large
kind
of
lobby
area
and
an
eight-room
hotel,
I'm
currently
working
on
a
79-room
hotel
in
downtown
dunedin
and
the
management
group
out
of
charleston
south
carolina
was
interested
in
even
managing
something
as
small
as
eight
units.
Q
Q
But
frankly
it
wasn't
really
that
exciting
and
it
was
just
like
four
other
town
homes
like
everyone
seems
to
be
building
everywhere
else
these
days
so
and
it's
an
option.
I
I
just
think
that
you
know
we
have
one
one
schematic
that
has
four
short-term
rentals
or
hotel
rooms.
On
the
second
floor
and
a
cafe
on
the
first
floor
that
got
a
little
bit
complicated
with
the
different
uses
in
the
same
building.
So
we
are
looking
at
at
everything.
Q
The
exciting
part
is:
is
that
I'm
meeting
actually
both
tomorrow
with
an
architectural
firm
out
of
greenville
south
carolina
and
on
monday,
with
an
architectural
firm
out
of
miami
just
to
start
the
design
documents
structurally
of
clt
cross-laminated
timber
to
have
large
mass
timber
columns
and
exposed
timber
decking
for
the
inside,
because
our
goal
is
to
to
kind
of
bring
back
the
the
look
of
a
stable,
well
just
kind
of
have
having
something
cool
and
something
different,
as
opposed
to
just
drywall
and
bar
joist.
N
Q
That's
a
historic
building
that
was
across
the
street.
We
moved
it
across.
It
was
actually
built
around
the
same
time.
Both
buildings
are
blocked
buildings.
Both
buildings
are
constructed
with
masonry
units
that
were
formed
on
site.
They
actually
cast
those
blocks
on
site
and
built
both
the
single
family
home.
So
that's
going
to
stay
as
it
is.
N
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
kokolakis,
you
mentioned
the
single
family.
Home
is
going
to
remain
as
it
is
correct.
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
saving
that
house
and
moving
it
from
the
pandakas
house.
He's
a
he's.
A
childhood
friend
of
mine.
A
J
A
Okay,
I
should
have
asked
for
this
ahead
of
time.
Is
there
any
affected
party
here
that
feels
that
they're
adversely
affected
by
this
project
we're
going
a
little
out
of
order
here?
No
okay,
thank
you.
I
think
we're
going
to
close
the
I'm
sorry
go
to
public
comments.
Are
there
any
public
comments?
S
S
It's
we've
got
old
pictures
and
if
you
do
all
the
old
research
you'll
find
that
out
and
there
would
they
would
tie
their
horses
up
out
front
how
many
times
they
would
have
fights
in
leicester's
bar
and
the
sheriff
will
come
in
and
the
police
chief
and
they
take
him
to
that
place
to
the
stable,
the
house
to
sleep
off
the
drunkenness
and
a
couple
of
times
it
was.
S
I
have
read
in
the
back
history
doing
the
research
when
there
was
cattle
rustling
up
in
pasco,
they
knew
where
the
guys
would
go
to
sleep
and
then,
through
the
years
a
lot
of
the
sponge
divers
came
to
tarpon.
They
had
no
home
to
go
to,
they
used
to
go
there
and
sleep
and
live,
and
then
the
demas
family
bought
it
and
the
pendakus
family
bought
the
house
across
the
street
and
then
the
sister
kiki
lived
down
the
street.
S
So
we
used
to
call
that
the
phil
demus
corner,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
history
to
it
and
if
you
do
the
research
and
see
the
pictures
they're
amazing
and
when
they
came
from
greece,
what
was
the
president's
name?
S
I
can't
think
right
now,
venezuela,
when
he
came
his
entourage,
stayed
there
because
it
was
so
close
to
the
church
and
they
didn't
have
a
hotel
for
them
to
stay
and
it
used
to
be
up
until
the
50s
when
they
would
come
down
to
tarpon
for
epiphany
the
dignitaries
phil
demas
mother
would
let
him
stay
there.
So
I
thank
you
for
saving
the
stable
force.
S
E
Again,
david
ballard
gettys
jr,
georgia
avenue
palm
harbor,
I
I
may
be
misperceived
on
on
the
downtown
redevelopment
cra
areas
that
are
taking
place
not
just
in
tarpon
springs,
but
dunedin
downtown
redevelopment
safety
harbor
uniformly
nationwide.
This
redevelopment
is
taking
place
once
a
property
is
taken
in
with
this
redevelopment
process.
E
A
A
J
L
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
this
individual
to
purchase
this.
Mr
kochlakis,
thank
you
so
much
for
purchasing
the
properties
here
and
making
the
effort
to
restore
them
in
the
best
way
that
you
can.
L
It's
probably
one
of
the
more
unique
properties
in
tarpon,
springs
and
hearing
that
you
want
to
bring
back
some
more
original
wood
feel
and
stable,
feel
is
also
really
encouraging
to
see.
You've
also
really
changed
the
whole
dynamic
of
this
neighborhood.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that
as
well
too,
and
we're
proud
that
you
call
tarpon
springs
home
for
your
office
and
some
of
your
investments
in
the
area.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
do
think
this
fits
though
it's
compatible
to
the
area
of
downtown.
L
A
O
Smart
code
to
include
said
property
within
the
t4a
transect
zone
and
amending
all
maps
within
the
smart
code
to
reflect
the
expanding
boundary
providing
for
findings
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
There'd
be
a
second
reading.
After
the
county
review.
This
was
published
in
the
tampa
bay
times
spy
title
with
a
map
on
april
27
2022.
N
A
Would
you
call
me
thanks?
That's
it
you're
fired.
Let's
go
back
to
do
you
have
to
re-read
2022,
let's
have
a
motion
on
approving
2022-12
mission.
B
L
A
Yes,
okay,
let's
the
next
item
is
going
to
be
the
one
concerning
the
let's
see,
which
one
is
that
on
the
implementation
of
safe
street.
Is
that
correct.
A
A
O
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
resolution.
20
22-20
resolution
to
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida,
supporting
the
implementation
of
safe
streets,
pinellas
action
plan,
adopting
a
vision,
zero
policy
to
eliminate
transportation,
related
fatalities
and
serious
injuries,
providing
for
conflicts
and
severability
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
That
was
a
rating
of
resolution
2022-20
by
title.
Only.
J
J
So
that's
what's
before
you
tonight.
This
also
does
puts
us
in
a
better
position
for
some
of
the
federal
funding
and
infrastructure
bills
that
are
coming
coming
down
from
the
federal
government,
as
well
as
just
additional
funding
through
ford
pinellas
for
for
planning
efforts
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
this
is
definitely
not
my
area
of
expertise,
but
fortunately
I
have
caroline
lanford
here
who
my
principal
planner,
who
is
lives,
breeze
and
needs
transportation
planning.
So
if
you
have
any
in-depth
questions
about
the
plan
itself,
I'm
sure
she
can.
E
C
A
L
Thanks
mayor
so
fordham,
I
I
met
with
mr
blanton
he's
the
director
of
ford
pinellas
about
two
months
ago.
We
drove
through
tarpon
springs.
We
had
lunch
and
then
drove
through
tarpon
springs
and
just
to
share
with
the
board
a
little
bit
further.
There's
a
significant
amount
of
county
roads
that
go
through
tarpon
springs.
It's
not
just
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
that's
responsible
for
our
roads,
so
you
think
golf
road,
florida
avenue
north
spring
boulevard,
meers,
klostermann,
carlton
curlew.
These
are
all
county
roads
that
we
have
throughout
our
city.
L
Our
city
is
lacking
in
sidewalks,
our
cities,
lacking
in
bike
paths
on
our
main
roads,
you're
talking
about
mirrors
ford
avenue
riverside
spring
boulevard.
I
completely
support
this.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
when
I
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
mr
blanton.
He
said
he
was
interested
in
spearheading
some
type
of
map
of
priority
map
that
he
could
work
with
the
county
on
funding.
L
It's
not
just
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
that
needs
to
work
on
improvements
for
safe
streets
we've.
Obviously,
we've
seen
in
the
news
we've
seen
the
press
releases,
there's
been
multiple
casualties
and
crosswalks
in
tarpon
springs
and
other
aspects.
I
don't
want
to
see
any
deaths.
I
want
to
see
more
pedestrian
encouragement.
L
I
want
to
see
safe
biking.
We've
seen
more
crosswalks
around
our
bayous,
which
are
great
to
have
in
this
aspect,
so
to
come
back
around
mr
blanton
was
in
full
support
of
putting
together
some
type
of
game
plan
from
the
county
side
and
I'm
looking
forward
to,
hopefully
a
city
staff
working
with
them
on
at
least
putting
a
map
together
on
where
we
could
use
some
additional
sidewalks
in
the
county,
roads
and
bike
paths.
D
D
D
C
D
D
D
Okay,
so
the
start
of
this
has
people
live
here,
not
cars,
so
the
p
is
in
red.
The
e
is
an
orange.
The
o
is
in
yellow.
The
p
is
in
green,
the
l
is
in
blue
and
the
e
is
in
purple
and
I
don't
know
how
else
to
read
that.
But
colored
people
live
here,
not
cars.
That's
what
this
states
I'd.
S
Like
to
point
out
that
this
was
a
child's
art
project,
I
didn't
hear
what.
D
D
The
second
three
pictures
are
of
what
I
I
I
don't
want
to
make
this.
My
interpretation,
that's
why
I
wish
it
was
up.
So
you
could
see
your
interpretation.
D
But
I
know
that
when
I'm
behind
the
wheel
of
a
car,
I
don't
target
people
whether
they're
black
white,
hispanic
or
anything.
So
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
original
resolution,
which
I
hope
you're
following
me
with
this,
where
it
says,
whereas
people
of
color
people
with
lower
incomes
and
people
walking
and
biking
experience
a
disproportionate
risk
of
severe
injury
and
death
from
traffic
crashes.
D
D
D
S
Kids
came
up
with
I'm
not
forward
pinellas,
that's
just
an
art
contest.
D
D
M
M
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Curias.
A
No
all
right
well.
For
me,
this
is
bittersweet
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
a
city
manager.
This
vision,
zero
is
the
issue
that
I
the
method
vision.
Zero
methodology
is
what
I
was
contending
during
the
anclote
harbor
and
the
fdot
people
told
me:
oh,
we
just
do
those
on
larger
roads.
We
don't
do
that
on
on
us,
19
or
anything
like
that
to
determine
actually
the
fatalities
and
what
could
we
do
to
reduce
them?
Characterize
them
better.
A
J
Well,
I
would
assume
that
anything
that
comes
through
ford
pinellas
for
their
to
do
federal
funds
that
flow
through
the
mpo
it
it
wouldn't
be
positive
for
us.
You
know
they
want
to
partner
with
us
and
other
local
governments
that
to
to
fairly
distribute
funds
and
to
you
know,
move
toward
of
you
know
this
vision
of
you
know
of
zero
death
due
to
you
know,
for
traffic
fatalities
with
with
bikes
and
pedestrians.
So.
A
The
does
this
the
the
corridor
study
that
we
just
got
through
is
this
part
of
that,
or
that
was
a
separate
pot
of
money.
If
you
will.
L
Thanks
mayor
renee
was
this
a
resolution
provided
by
the
ford
pinellas
word
for
word,
or
is
it
something
that
the
staff
put
together.
C
It
is
a
combination
of
a
template
that
was
provided
by.
L
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
me
go
to
commissioner
eisner.
D
I
had
one
more
thing:
I
wanted
the
residents
to
hear
what
one
of
the
solutions
here
at
20
miles
an
hour.
The
death
rate
would
be
one
out
of
10
10
at
30
miles
an
hour.
The
death
rate
would
be
50
percent.
That
means
half
the
people
will
be
killed
at
40
miles
an
hour.
90
percent
of
the
people
will
be
killed.
D
I
just
when
I
look
at
this,
I'm
wondering
do
they
want
us
to
take
19
and
bring
it
down
to
20
miles
an
hour.
Is
that
I
don't
know
you
know
again.
These
are
things
that
I'm
reading
and
I'm
just
I
just
don't
agree
with
it.
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
who
did
this
and
why
I'm
not
into
hitting
people
with
cars.
That's
just
runs
against
me,
but
this
is
just
something
really
needs
to
change
for
me
to
sign
this.
A
Anything
else:
okay,
vice
mayor
long.
M
So
furthering
on
commissioner
carr's
observation:
could
this
resolution
not
be
passed
if
we
struck,
whereas
people
of
color
etc?
From
this
resolution,
you
can.
S
Transportation
equity
is
a
key
piece
of
the
the
funding
source,
so
it
acknowledging
the
disproportionate.
A
N
Some
of
these
pictures
are
disturbing
and
I
don't
know
why
they
were
included.
I
think
they
should
be
left
out.
We
should
all
be
caring
about
our
minority
communities
or
you
know
those
that
are
less,
that
don't
have
the
walkability
in
certain
neighborhoods
and
we
don't
need
political
pictures
to
get
involved
with
it
all,
and
that's
just
what
I'm
going
to
ask
for.
J
No
problems
relaying
that
message.
If
I
had
known
if
somebody
would
have
relayed
you
know,
I
would
have
asked
someone
from
fort
pinellas
to
be
here
to
talk
to
these
things.
It.
You
know
it's
a
little
unfair
to
come
after
staff.
At
this
point
I
mean
we're,
you
know,
so,
I'm
didn't.
I
had
no
forward
knowledge
that
this
was
coming
up
tonight.
So.
J
A
Why
don't
we
but
let's
get
finished
the
comments.
Commissioner
eisner
you
had
your
light
on,
go
ahead.
D
Yes,
there's
just
another
line
here:
it's
it
just
states,
whereas
the
city
prior
prioritizes,
safe
and
reliable
transportation
for
everyone,
regardless
of
mode
of
transport,
age
ability,
gender
race,
income
or
other
social
factors.
That's
a
gimme!
That's
exactly
what
we
do.
Why
would
you
know?
I
just
don't
understand
it.
It's
making
us
in
that
we're
targeting
somebody.
That's
what
it
looks
like.
A
C
L
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
suggestion
if
there's
concern
of
the
people
of
color
portion
of
this,
whereas
that
we
potentially
could
change
it
to
a
minority
community,
would
that
be
sufficient
to
still
the
target
for
what
is
needed.
A
Why
don't
we?
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
to
table
this
rough
resolution,
give
ms
vincent
a
chance
to
rework
it
with
her
staff
based
on
what
she
heard
this
evening
and
then
come
back
with
another
resolution
at
a
date
to
be
determined
when
she's
ready?
Is
that
fair
enough.
A
That
need
to
answer
the
question.
Is
that
acceptable,
but
before
we
go
to
that,
did
I
ask
the
comm
the
public
for
comments?
I
did
not.
Does
the
public
have
any
comments
concerning
this
matter.
I
I
I
I
I
I
So
we
have
to
see
that
that's
their
eyes,
seeing
it
it's
not
your
eyes
or
our
eyes.
That's
some
kid's
eyes
how
they
saw
it.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
substance
in
this
plan.
The
plan
overall
is
to
try
to
make
our
streets
and
our
transportation
networks
safer,
and
I
think
that's
the
goal
you
have
to
look
at
if
you
want
to
write
your
own
letter
or
the
commission
would
like
to
prepare
a
letter
to
forward
pinellas
saying
we've
approved
this
resolution.
I
S
I
don't
know
do
any
of
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
knock
ourselves
out
of
the
ballpark
with
this,
giving
us
a
chance
to
get
our
grants,
get
what
we
need
in
our
community
if
we're
late
with
it
or
we
hack
them
off
some
way,
we'll
be
out
at
the
door
and
that's
what
we've
got
to
look
at,
and
I
agree
with
everything
that
peter
delacas
is
saying.
Don't
thank
peter,
but
we've
got
to
look
at
it.
Another
way.
S
What
time
element
we
have
if
we
get
a
mad,
are
we
going
to
hurt
ourselves?
We
can
support
it
and
later
on,
write
a
letter
and
say
what
we
really
didn't
appreciate
in
the
wording.
What
the
children
see
today
is
what
they
hear
on
tv,
the
news
and
what
they
say
when
they
draw
these
pictures
and
that's
the
way
it
is.
But
let's
not
hurt
ourselves
by
saying:
let's
come
back
or
write
them
out
and
say
we
don't
like
what
you're
doing,
because
there's
too
many
people
in
this
county
that
want
it.
J
There
is
an
upcoming
upcoming
funding
opportunity
that,
through
ford
pinellas
directly
related
to
the
safe
streets
pinellas,
it
would
be
a
planning
grant
opportunity
to
look
at
tarpon
springs,
so
that
is
due.
You
know,
I
think
that
that
application
process
wraps
up
in
like
september,
so
we
have
a
if
we
want
to
be.
You
know
a
potential
partner
and
I
know
mark's
looking
at
me
like
what
am
I
talking
about,
I
haven't
even
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
him
today.
J
J
A
G
We
can
meet
a
september,
grant,
I
just
met
lesser
but
yeah,
the
12th
and
again
we
need
to
bring
them
here
to
defend
their
document
and
so
we'll
try
to
set
that
up
for
july
12th.
D
Mayor
a
number
of
people
have
spoken
about
kids
and
we're
not
trying
to
attack
kids
by
any
means.
I
just
want
you
to
know
it
wasn't
kids
that
put
this
thing
together.
It
was
adults
to
put
it
together
and
I
don't
care
if
there
was
trump
there
biden
or
obama.
I
wouldn't
take
a
political
statement
from
anybody
for
any
reason.
D
As
far
as
the
time
limit,
this
is
something
that
this
action
plan
is
to
have
zero
trafficking
deaths
by
2045.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
ahead
of
us.
I
just
I
I
just
I
I
can't
help
but
explaining
I
don't
target
people.
I
don't
think
anybody
in
tarpon
springs
targets,
minority,
there's
many
ways
that
we
can
help
people
that
are
with
bicycles
or
walking
in
the
streets.
D
It's
not
about
picking
on
a
specific
ethnic
group
and
once
you
do
that
you
kind
of
lose
me.
So
I'm
sorry
I
have
to
say
that,
but
I
would
like
to
have
this
change,
so
it's
it's.
It's
acceptable
for
all
that
we
could
all
accomplish.
Nobody
wants
to
have
children
killed.
Nobody
wants
to
have
people
killed.
I've
seen
too
many
people
hit
on
19
and
I'm
all
for
trying
to
make
safe
streets,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
it
in
a
political
manner.
A
I
I
think
everyone's
I'm
sorry.
A
Think
everybody's
opinion
is
very
important
here.
I
think
you've
heard
some
concerns,
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
first
of
all,
we
need
to
go
to
zoom.
Is
there
mr
jump?
Is
there
any
remote
access
comments
concerning
this
matter?.
A
Thank
you
again.
You
know
this
item
is
kind
of
there's
a
lot
to
it
and
everything
I
would
like
in
the
future
if
we
could
get
with
the
staff
to
kind
of
at
least
express
these
things
to
him.
As
we
see
him-
and
I
know
city
manager,
of
course,
is
very
good
at
pulling
things
if
he
sees
a
rough
spot.
So
in
the
future
we
could
do
that,
but
in
the
meantime,
let's
go
ahead
and
table
this
to
july
12th.
A
Yes,
if
I
could
get
a
motion
to
table,
I
ate
on
19
to
july
12th,
be
a
motion
to
postpone
to
july
12th
there's
a
second
second.
L
A
Okay,
is
there
a
second
I'll
second,
that,
okay
before
we
close
the
discussion,
I
just
in
this
particular
item,
there's
too
many
kind
of
important
things
that
were
said
that
I
want
to
get
ironed
out.
That's
all
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
do
anything
on
the
fly
and
changing
one
word
to
another
word
and
mandating
this
stuff.
I
think
that
the
staff
needs
to
just
type.
I
I
understand
what
the
staff
is
doing.
I
mean
there's
no
issue.
A
We
inherited
this
thing,
the
boilerplate
on
it
there's
some
sensitivities
here
and
I
don't
want
to
try
and
change
it
on
the
fly
and
then
there's
still
being
some
issues
on
it.
So,
having
said
that,
I'm
going
to
execute
my
my
prerogative
to
go
ahead
and
end
this
discussion
and
if
we
can
have
a
roll
call,
please.
M
A
A
I
brought
this
matter
forward
for
one
reason
only
and-
and
this
was
something
that
was
going
to
be
done
one
way
or
the
other,
but
the
only
other
people
that
would
have
brought
it
forward
were
charter
officials
and
the
fact
that
involves
the
commissioner
and
the
commissioners
right
evaluations,
performance,
evaluations
of
charter
officials.
I
wanted
to
avoid
any
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest
or
any
any
issues
later
on.
A
A
We,
I
wrote
another
memorandum
to
introduce
this
this
evening
and
I
asked
the
commission
to
actually
get
the
backup
for
it
that
came
in
as
part
of
the
public
records
request.
A
I
know
that
there
was
some
reference
to
a
public
ethics
violation,
and
I've
got
that
in
my
memorandum-
and
I
know
commissioner
carr
alluded
to
it
as
well,
but
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
that
reference
was
originally
made
in
april
27th
from
city
attorney,
trask
email
to
the
commission
advising
us
of
this
situation,
and-
and
I
want
to
also
thank
the
commission
for
their
discretion
in
this
matter
and
and
remaining
patient
until
we
got
through
at
least
part
of
this
matter,
with
the
public
records
request
and
getting
that
information
back
to
the
contractor's
attorney
and
seeing
what
their
next
step
was.
A
I
think
we've
waited
long
enough
to
where
we
we
can't
we.
We
need
to
bring
this
matter
forward
and
explain
to
the
residents
what
was
going
on,
but
in
in
that
april
27
memorandum
by
mr
traskin.
He
made
it
very
clear
he
was
just
in
for
information
he
states,
while
it
appears
that
commissioner
carr
meant
well
by
trying
to
help
a
resident
with
an
issue,
he
felt
he
could
help
that
he
could
help
with.
It
was
not
a
city
manner,
it
could
be
considered
a
misuse
of
public
office.
A
Also.
The
only
other
thing
I
want
to
read
this
evening
for
people
so
they'll
understand
why
this
was
a
serious
matter
other
than
what's
in
the
back
up
is
the
redacted
version
of
the
attorney
that
the
the
email
from
the
attorney,
the
contractor's
attorney
that
was
sent
to
us-
and
it
was
to
it-
was
addressed
to
mr
carr
as
you've
been
advised.
My
firm
is
representing
redacted
concerning
this
matter.
All
correspondents
should
be
directed
to
my
attention.
A
A
The
below
request
is
renewed
for
a
clear
statement
of
on
the
role
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
in
this
matter
and
a
clear
statement
of
whether
you
are
purporting
to
act
in
your
official
capacity
with
the
agency
and
approval
of
the
city
or
whether
you're
acting
outside
the
scope
of
your
official
position
without
the
authorization
or
knowledge
of
the
city.
Your
email
statements
are
significant
variants
to
the
actual
facts
of
this
matter
and
appearance,
and
it
is
apparent
you
have
merely
accepted
the
representation
of
the
redacted
and
assumed
that
they
are
true.
A
That
does
not
constitute
an
investigation.
Your
behavior
is
not
appropriate
and
for
that
reason
I'm
copying
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
attorneys
on
this
email.
Perhaps
they
will
see
fit
to
counsel
you
about
the
proper
conduct
of
a
government
official
in
a
private
civil
dispute
that
is
completely
unrelated
to
government
business.
Please
be
advised
that
your
repeated
publishing
of
untrue
and
defamatory
statements
about
redacted
to
a
member
of
the
media
is
reckless,
and
such
conduct
exposes
both
you
and
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
to
legal
action.
A
Perhaps
you
are
not
aware
that
your
statements
constitute
per
se
defamation,
but
it
is
reckless
for
you
to
publish
such
statements
without
knowing
the
truth
or
false
falsity
of
those
statements.
We
are
conducting
public
records
requests
regarding
this
matter
and
you
are
directed
to
preserve
all
documents
and
communications
regarding
these
matters.
Attached
is
the
request
delivered
to
the
city
clerk
yesterday,
which
has
been
acknowledged
and
received.
A
Please
govern
yourself
accordingly.
Sincerely
and
it's
signed
by
the
attorney-
and
I
also
want
to
mention
that
in
the
this
this
activity,
with
the
emails
between
commissioner
carr
and
these
individuals,
the
city
was
not
copied
to
no
one
in
the
city
was
copied
on
the
emails.
Yet
there
was
a
reference
in
here
by
the
city
attorney
that
a
television
consumer
advocate
reporter
was
copied
on
the
emails,
which
is
what
the
basis
of
the
attorney's
concern
is.
As
far
as
I
assume
bad
publicity.
A
That's
all
I
want
to
offer
this
evening.
The
rest
is
in
the
back
up.
Public
records
are
available
through
the
city
clerks.
I
know,
commissioner
carr
has
provided
some
backup
and
in
fairness,
I'd
like
for
him
to
make
any
comments
if
he
wishes
to
or
if
you
wish
to
answer
questions
from
the
other
commissioners.
I
don't
know
what
you
would
plan
to
do
here.
If
you
have
planned
to
do
anything.
L
I'm
happy
to
make
some
comments
for
sure.
A
L
A
L
This
is
also
in
the
back
up
on
the
city
website.
The
summary
point
number
one
I
would
never
put
myself
family
or
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
intentionally
at
risk
for
any
lawsuits.
L
There
was
summary
point
number
two.
There
was
no
personal
gain
to
myself
or
family
from
an
email
I
sent
number
three.
I
was
not
aware
advocating
for
a
resident
or
assisting
with
a
request
to
help
was
a
misuse
of
power
as
a
city
commissioner,
once
the
city
attorney
advised
me
that
I
should
not
be
involved
in
the
situation,
I
immediately
notified
the
resident
in
a
very
brief
phone
call,
letting
her
know
that
I
will
be
stepping
away
from
the
situation
immediately
number
five.
L
L
I
want
to
give
a
little
more
background
of
why
this
resident
reached
out
to
me
a
little
more
about
the
resident
itself.
My
grandmother
passed
away
in
a
house
fire
january
23
2020
in
tarpon
springs.
L
I
assisted
my
mother,
not
as
a
commissioner,
but
as
a
son
and
a
private
resident,
and
took
the
lead
working
with
my
grandmother's
insurance
company
and
cleaning
out
the
house
and
gutting
the
inside,
primarily
from
smoke
damage.
During
his
time.
I
gained
a
significant
amount
of
knowledge
in
the
business
and
insurance
world
pertaining
to
remediation
of
house
fires.
L
It
was
an
emotional
and
difficult
time
getting
through
the
renovation
and
ultimate
sale
of
the
new
home,
the
ultimate
sale
to
home
to
the
new
homeowners.
But
I
learned
a
lot
during
this
process
fast
forward.
Sometime
in
early
2022,
I
received
a
call
from
our
resident,
whom
I
met
once
requesting
my
help.
L
This
resident
had
been
displaced
from
their
home
for
over
a
year
when
reaching
out
to
me
they
have
a
special
needs,
child
and
a
senior
in
high
school.
When
she
called
me,
she
was
in
tears
from
the
whole
process
of
being
displaced
from
their
home
during
the
pandemic
and
stress
of
everything
that
was
happening
as
a
commissioner.
We
receive
requests,
often
from
residents
or
businesses,
for
help.
L
L
I
drafted
an
email
to
the
business
requesting
the
resident,
be
credited
for
these
items.
The
resident
had
said
they
paid
for
or
that
the
residents
said
the
business
didn't
complete.
I
was
not
demanding
or
flexing
in
any
way
or
trying
to
misuse
my
power
provided
me
from
the
citizens
of
tarpon
springs.
L
I
didn't
believe
I
was
requesting
any
special
privilege
or
benefit
for
the
resident
based
on
the
memo
that
was
provided
in
the
backup
to
be
clear
when
drafting
and
sending
an
email
to
the
business.
On
behalf
of
the
resident's
request,
I
had
no
intent,
nor
did,
I
think,
a
special
privilege
or
benefit
was
being
requested.
L
L
A
Further,
commissioner
eisner,
you
have
your
light
on.
You
have
coming
we're
going
to
do
this
in
reverse.
The
commissioners
will
make
their
comments
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
public.
If
there's
any
public
comments
go
ahead,
please
thank.
D
D
D
Yes,
this
was
an
ethics
violation
and
I
don't
even
want
to
deal
with
that
you're
in
your
sixth
year,
you
should
know
better.
This
is
something
a
first-year
person.
Does
we're
going
to
see
retaliation
of
residents
with
comments
on
facebook
for
years
to
come
on
this
commissioner's
behavior?
It
was
a
lack
of
professionalism.
D
D
You
have
no
right
to
go
up
against
the
restoration
company.
The
restoration
company
has
a
deal
with
the
homeowner,
they
sign
a
contract.
The
contract
is
signed,
they
work
for
insurance
proceeds.
After
that
there
is
nothing
more.
You
can
do
or
say
there
to
work
with
the
insurance
company,
not
with
anybody
else
if
they
didn't
hold
up
to
their
bargain.
An
attorney
has
to
be
involved
or
a
public
adjuster,
which
neither
one
you
are
asking
the
restoration
company
to
give
you
a
line-by-line
explanation
of
just
how
the
how
they
came
up
with
this
funds.
D
D
D
You
wrote,
there's
no
personal
gain
to
myself
or
family
from
an
email
that
I
sent,
but
we
don't
know
that
public
adjusters
get
between
six
and
ten
percent.
Commission.
I'm
not
accusing
you
of
that.
I
just
don't
know.
I'm
sure
you're
smart
enough,
not
to
write
that
in
you
wrote,
I'm
not
aware
of
advocating
for
a
resident
or
assisting
with
requests
to
help
was
a
misuse
of
power.
As
a
city,
commissioner,
that
was
a
scary
comment
from
a
six-year
veteran
commissioner.
D
I
cannot
believe
that
you
said
that
you
don't
know
that.
I
don't
even
believe
that
you
don't
know
that
once
the
city
attorney.
This
is
another
comment
once
when
the
city
attorney
advised
me.
I
should
not
be
involved
in
this
situation.
I
immediately
notified
the
resident
in
a
very
brief
phone
call,
letting
her
know
that
I
will
be
stepping
away
from
the
situation
immediately.
D
D
You
wrote,
I
sent
this
email
to
the
attorney
representing
the
business
on
april
27th
right
after
my
phone
call
to
the
resident
notifying
the
attorney,
I'm
stepping
away
from
the
situation
fully
and
notified
the
resident
that
I
would
not
be
able
to
help
with
this
matter
any
longer,
but
you
didn't
help
you
threatened
them
with
news
coverage.
I
don't
understand
how
you
could
think
that's
not
threatening
in
no
way
you
wrote
no
way.
Did
I
ever
say
that
I'm
representing
the
resident
in
a
legal
manner
to
matter
to
any
parties.
D
Well,
that
was
excellent
because
you're
not
an
attorney.
My
intention,
you
wrote,
was
to
help
the
resident,
which
is
a
commissioner
I
receive
requests.
Often
to
do
so.
I
receive
requests
to
do
things.
I
have
to
pick
and
choose
what
I
could
do,
what
I
can't
do
and
if
I'm
unsure
I
call
the
city
attorney,
it's
a
free
call.
D
You
say:
there's
no
intent
to
request
any
special
privilege
or
benefit
during
this
process
without
any
resident.
Again
we
don't
know
that.
I'm
sure
you
weren't
going
to
write
that
in
your
comments.
I
don't
want
to
go
through.
What's
going
on
between
your
grandmother
perishing
in
a
fire,
my
condolences
on
that
but
handling
one
claim
versus
my
thousands
of
claim
does
not
make
you
an
expert
at
this.
D
D
You
wrote
here
as
a
city,
commissioner,
we
received
requests
from
residents
and
you
said
you
did
this
for
free.
But
again
these
comments
are
not.
We
don't
know
that
you
wrote
that
you
didn't
flex
your
demands,
but
you
did
you
called
the
news
you
wrote.
I
was
not
aware
that
I
could
not
send
an
email
to
a
business
or
an
entity
on
behalf
of
a
resident
I've
been,
I
didn't
believe
I
was
requesting
any
special
privilege
or
benefit
that
a
resident
based
on
the
memo.
D
The
mayor
portrays
so
you're
trying
to
throw
this
back
on
the
mayor's
lap
that
he
attacked
you
for
something.
That's
a
scary
comment.
You
did
what
you
did
and
you
should
be
facing
the
music
with
an
apology
you
wrote
below
is
the
paragraph
I
believe
the
mayor
referenced
multiple
times
in
the
memo
and
backup
information.
D
D
D
M
This
is
really
not
a
pleasant
experience
to
have
to
do
this.
There
are
a
lot
of
what
commissioner
either
said
that
I
I
totally
agree
with.
I
want
to
make
note
that,
during
your
series
of
emails,
that,
when
you
were
questioned
by
the
company
in
question,
you
reiterated
your
demands
and
let
me
state
this
very
precisely.
M
Your
first
email
was
a
demand
letter.
It
was
not
a
polite.
Could
you
help
me
out
with
this?
Could
you
see
this?
This
was
a
demand
letter
and
I
expect
a
response
by
a
certain
date.
That
is
the
definition
of
what
a
demand
letter
is,
and
you
had
no
right
to
do
that
and
doing
that
and
using
your
city
account
put
us
in
jeopardy
now.
M
M
But
if
I
were
in
your
shoes,
I'd
accept
the
responsibility
and
resign
because
I
think
you've
very,
very
much
damaged
this
board's
credibility
and
I
don't
think
it's
over.
If
you
don't
resign,
I
think
what's
going
to
happen,
is
they
will
sue
they've
already
invested
in
legal
help?
Already
they
have
the
ammunition,
and
why
not
just
carry
it
one
step
forward.
It's
just
matter
a
couple
of
filings.
M
M
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Kulas.
N
Here,
commissioner,
carmen
hand
you
our
organizational
chart,
I
just
want
to
respond
back
to
your
summary
points.
N
N
N
N
C
N
L
N
You
also
stated
that
you
had
no
intent
to
gain
no
personal
gain
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
believe
when
he
cc'd
the
news
reporter.
That
was
all
the
game
they
wanted
was
the
gain
of
being
an
activist
in
the
community
as
a
commissioner
being
there
fighting
for
the
residents
and
any
potential
future
political
aspirations.
N
There's
plenty
of
gain
when
we
sit
there
and
we
we're
activists
towards
certain
things
that
are
outside
of
our
scope
of
work.
So
I
do
believe
that
was
a
gain
right.
There.
N
L
N
N
Why
are
you
deflecting
your
behavior
and
pivoting
this
issue
onto
the
mayor
as
a
memo?
He
portrays
the
mayor
didn't
write
the
letter.
He
didn't
represent
a
private
citizen
in
a
civil
issue,
but
you
did
you
called
the
mayor
while
he
was
a
commissioner
divisive
and
now
you
accuse
him
of
portraying
something
that
is
factually
correct.
N
N
N
N
N
Based
on
your
actions,
I
believe
you
should
resign,
and
if
this
is
the
tip
of
the
iceberg-
and
you
don't
notify
us
now,
then
this
board
will
collectively
ask
and
force
you
to
resign.
So
we
have
three
things.
I
would
like
resolution
to
reprimand
consensus
for
this
board
to
send
the
complaint
to
the
commission
of
ethics
and
for
commissioners
carp
to
publicly
apologize
to
the
citizens
and
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
A
L
A
couple
short
items:
I
stand
behind
everything
I
said
as
truthful
in
my
statement.
There's
not
a
whole
lot
more
to
add
other
than
I
truly
felt.
I
was
serving
a
resident
in
this
situation.
It
was
in
dire
need
that
she
expressed
to
me:
there's
no
self-gain,
no
self-interest
in
this,
nothing
to
benefit
me
individually
or
my
family.
L
A
All
right
before
I
go
to
the
public,
let
me
just.
I
was
hoping
to
hear
an
apology
here
from
someone
tonight.
I
guess
this
is
what
mayors
do
and
lou
if
anyone
else
doing
it,
so
I
want
to
apologize
to
the
residents.
This
is
about
not
it's
basically
about
your
city
government
and
I
know
there's
one
issue
here
involving
one
individual,
but
it's
still
your
city,
government
and
no
matter
how
this
goes.
It
doesn't
end
well
and
it
certainly
reflects
on
badly
on
the
city
government.
A
So
I
want
to
apologize
to
the
residents
of
tarpon
springs
on
on
behalf
of
the
city,
and
you
don't
deserve
this,
I'm
not
sure
what
we
can
do
about
it
right
now,
we're
still
going
to
be
waiting
for
a
lawsuit
that
hasn't
changed.
We
haven't
heard
from
the
attorney.
He
may
still
be
looking
at
the
public
records
that
he
received.
He
may
decide
he's
not
going
to
do
anything.
A
A
Now
we
also
had
this
conversation
between
myself,
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
manager
back
late
april,
and
it
was
in
was
regard
to
what
should
we
do
and
we
had
this
discussion
of
misuse
of
public
position
and
there
is
that
word
corruptly
that's
in
there
did
did.
I
guess
in
commissioner
carr's
words.
He
used
the
word
intent
quite
a
bit
and
I
I
would
suspect
that
maybe
he
maybe
he
did
maybe
he
didn't,
but
to
give
him
the
benefit
of
the
doubt.
A
So
I
was
comfortable
with
bringing
this
resolution
of
reprimand
forward
that
basically
states
that
you're
being
reprimanded
for
being
for
acting
inconsistent
with
the
state
standards
based
on
statute
112,
part
3,
which
covers
the
standards
of
behavior
for
public
officers,
which
commissioners
are
as
well
as
I
myself,
which
I'm
actually
a
commissioner
as
well.
But
I've
just
got
some
additional
duties
as
mayor,
so
this
commission
owes
you
an
apology,
I'm
hoping
tonight's,
the
last
we've
heard
of
it
that
we'll
hear
of
it
publicly.
If
not
you'll,
we'll
be
talking
about
lawsuits.
A
H
So
we
talked
earlier
about
lawsuits,
I
mean
and
the
cost
of
them,
and
you
didn't
even
get
an
apology
out
of
this
guy.
I
I'm
stunned,
he's
a
walking
talking
liability
issue
for
the
city,
just
like
mr
eisner
said
he
would
gladly
do
it
again.
Absolutely
he
doesn't
think
he
did
anything
wrong.
I
think
he
knows
he
did
something
wrong,
but
he
just
can't
admit
it.
H
He
clearly
knew
that
he
made
a
demand,
so
he
lied
to
you
about
that.
Mr
lund,
he
lied
to
you
about
that.
You
knew
that
was
a
demand.
He
knew
it
was
the
demand
there
wasn't
a
request
or
a
polite
request,
he's
lying
so
when
he
got
a
liar
who's,
also
breaking
the
law,
the
ethics
law.
He
needs
to
be
removed,
it'd
be
nice.
If
he
would
do
the
honorable
thing
and
resign,
but
he
will
not
he's
a
narcissist.
H
H
H
This
is
gonna
haunt
you
forever.
You
will
never
hold
another
elected
office
ever
you're
done
washed
up
just
walk
away,
save
a
little
bit
of
integrity
and
do
the
right
thing
here
and
admit
to
these
people.
What
you
did
was
wrong
and
that
you
knew
it,
and
maybe
you
weren't
trying
to
shake
somebody
down
for
cash.
Maybe
you
were
maybe
you've
been
getting
away
with
that
too.
We
don't
know,
I
mean
how
do
we
know
you
were
going
to
get
those
people
money?
You
said
you
weren't
trying
to
get
them
special
benefit.
H
How
much
were
they
going
to
kick
back
to
you?
We
don't
know,
but
even
if
it
was
just
trying
to
get
glory
in
the
paper
or
whatever
the
heck
it
was,
it
was
going
on
in
your
twisted
mind
whatever
it
was,
you
knew
it
was
wrong.
Then
you
know
it's
wrong
now
and
this
ethics
thing
is
going
to
haunt
you
forever.
H
H
You're
done
absolutely
everyone
is
going
to
know.
I
mean
the
mayor
tried
to
help
you
putting
this
off
and
kicking
the
can
down
the
road,
and
he
didn't
even
want
anybody
else
to
draft,
because
he
didn't
want
it
to
look
weird.
He
was
trying
to
help
you
man
and
then
you
throw
him
under
the
bus
as
if
he's
trying
to
attack
you
trying
to
paint
it
like
it
was
him
against
you
and
he's
just
all
picking
on
poor
little
car.
H
I
And
the
email
from
the
attorney
says,
as
you
have
been
advised
and
then
later,
all
correspondence
should
be
direct
to
my
attention
as
you've
been
advised.
So
obviously
somehow
you
were
advised
before
this
april
27th
email,
but
what
I
want
to
kind
of
go
to
is
a
couple
of
things.
One
remember
when
I
first
came
on.
I
Mr
hubbard
had
a
whole
bunch
of
us
here,
the
new
commissioners,
people
from
all
the
boards,
and
we
went
through
a
sunshine
law
and
an
ethics
seminar.
Now
I
don't
know
if
you
all
got
the
same
thing,
commissioner
elon
mentioned
he
got
something
for
ethics,
so
somewhere
along
the
line,
there
is
ethics,
education.
Now
in
your
email
that
you
or
your
memorandum
you
on
the
end,
you
were
referencing
this
section
misuse
of
public
position
and
you
claim
in
your
thing,
you're
not
getting
any
benefit.
I
However,
let's
clearly
read
the
rules.
What
it
says
here,
no
public
officer,
employee
of
an
agency
or
local
government
attorney
shall
correctly
use
or
attempt
to
use
his
or
her
official
position
or
any
property
or
resource
which
may
be
within
his
or
her
trust
or
perform
his
or
official
duties
to
secure
a
special
privilege,
benefit
or
exemption
for
himself
herself
or
others.
I
Now
I
hear
your
case
that
you
say
you
know:
residents
come
to
us
and
we've
all
had
it,
but
usually
it's
because
of
an
issue
with
a
city
thing:
a
code
enforcement,
a
sewer,
backup
or
flooding
or
sidewalks
or
roads.
Those
are
the
things.
Yes,
you
would
get
involved
in,
but
not
in
a
private
matter
and,
as
it's
kind
of
been
mentioned,.
I
I
I
I
agree
also
that
there
should
be
something
sent
to
the
florida
commission
on
ethics,
whether
it's
the
city
manager,
the
attorney
or
the
board,
writes
a
letter
to
get
a
definitive
action,
but
in
the
meantime
a
written
reprimand
does
nothing.
It
goes
into
file,
so
at
a
minimum,
if
you're
not
going
to
resign,
that
seems
apparently
some
of
your
fellow
board
members
feel
you
should
at
a
minimum.
You
should
strip
him
from
his
seat
on
the
tampa
bay,
regional
planning,
council
and
any
other
organizations
that
he
may
be
on
representing
the
city.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
S
S
S
So
we
don't
come
back
with
another
grand
jury
investigation
here
and
when
they
had
that
grand
jury
investigation,
anita
protis
was
on
the
board,
but
I
was
the
only
one
that
wasn't
involved
in
it.
They
violated
sunshine
law
when
they
hired
the
attorney.
They
violated
sunshine
law
when
they
fired
the
police
chief
went
after
the
city
manager.
It
was
a
very
ugly
time
in
tarpon
and
the
target
people
have
finally
gotten
over
it.
S
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
do
things
the
right
way
and
in
a
mannerly
way,
so
we
don't
have
them
coming
back
into
tarpon.
That
was
a
very
hard
time
for
our
community,
but
tom
collianus,
evie
lilacus
tony
simarcus,
and
I
forget
the
other
commissioner's
name.
They
stayed
on
the
board
till
the
end
of
their
term
because
they
didn't
have
that
much
longer
to
go
just
find
out
about
it,
protect
our
community
that
the
state
attorney
doesn't
come
back
in
here
because
you
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
that.
Thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
remote
access
comments,
mr
jump.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that's
the
discussion.
The
one
thing
I
do
want
to
follow
up
with
and
and
mr
trask
I
do
you
see
any
issue
of
what
we're
doing
this
evening
as
far
as
process.
I
don't
want
you
to
you,
know,
content
or
anything
like
that
that
would
you
know
that
would
drag
you
into
this
thing,
but
as
far
as
the
process
of
how
we're
moving
ahead.
O
I
think
the
process
was
appropriate
what
you
had
basically
a
charging
document.
That's
what
you
had
prepared
you
you
had
in
what
I
will
call
a
name
clearing
hearing
giving
commissioner
carr
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
that
you've
received
comments
from
your
commission
and
your
public,
so
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
process.
O
As
for
you
know,
the
resolution
itself,
there's
nothing
in
your
charter,
there's
nothing
in
your
code
and
there's
nothing
in
your
rules
or
procedure
that
would
give
us
any
direction
on
how
to
do
this
type
of
matter,
and
but
I
think
that
what
has
happened
tonight
is
has
been
fair.
Everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
present
their
sides
and
so
forth.
So
I
don't
think
that
not.
I
don't
think
that
anything
further
needs
to
be
done.
Okay,
so.
A
Let's,
let's
this
item
was
created
in
two
parts,
and
I
did
that
on
purpose,
to
get
the
discussion
out
first
and
to
see
what
the
commission
wished
to
do
as
far
as
a
direction
with
this
is
whether
they
wanted
to
proceed
with
a
resolution
of
reprimand
or
not,
and
the
concern
is-
and
this
is
a
discussion
I
did
have
with
the
city
attorney-
I
don't
want
it
from
my
perspective.
A
I
don't
think
it
would
be
good
to
put
something
forward
and
given
what
the
facts
are
and
the
letter
from
the
attorney
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
discussion
of
the
merits,
that
would
be
at
a
later
date,
if
there's
any
depositions
or
any
interviews
under
oath.
But
but
I
I
was
a
little
concerned
that
if
a
resolution
came
forward
and
it
was
denied
or
turned
down,
then
it
would
be
perceived
as
this
commission
condoning
those
actions
which
I
don't
think
it
would
be
what
the
intent
is.
A
So
I
did
a
part
b
and
looked
at
the
roberts
rules
and
and
if
the
commission
did
not
want
to
proceed
with
the
resolution,
then
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
delete
item
b,
which
would
be
the
resolution
and
then
it
can
always
come
back
at
a
later
date.
The
way
you
delete
it
under
robert's
rules
would
be
a
super
majority,
actually
two-thirds
vote,
which
in
this
particular
case,
would
be
a
super
majority
of
of
four
commissioners
having
to
delete
that
item.
So
it
doesn't
go
forward
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
now.
A
Okay
hearing
none:
let's
proceed
to
part
b,
mr
trask,
if
you
could
read
the
resolution
by
title,
please.
O
Mayor
commissioners,
resolution
20
22-21,
a
resolution
of
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
florida
reprimanding
commissioner
jacob
carr
for
acting
inconsistent
to
the
standards
of
conduct
for
public
officers
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
hero
that
was
reading
resolution
2022-21
by
title
only
okay,
thank.
A
You,
let's
go
to
commissioner
comments,
and-
and
this
is
the
time
to
discuss
if
you're
satisfied
with
the
resolution,
if
there's
something
else
that
you
want
to
do,
this
is
the
time
to
do
that.
A
A
N
Yes,
marriage.
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
this
resolution
it
may
affect
a
political
career,
but
that
comes
with
the
territory
resolution
like
this
won't
affect
personal
life,
getting
a
job
somewhere
else
working
hard
to
be
able
to
do
what
you
want,
but
it
may
have
an
impact
on
the
political
career
and
as
far
as
investigations,
the
last
investigation
wasn't
back
in
the
80s.
N
Of
public
position
he
says
a
government
attorney
or
a
local
government
attorney,
shall
corruptly
use
or
attempt
to
use
her
his
or
her
official
position.
It's
not
an,
and
so
it's
either
or
and
one
of
those
ores
did
happen.
So
I
would
suggest
it
does
get
put.
This
is
beyond
us
and
I
think
the
commission
of
ethics
needs
to
be
able
to
review
it
all
and
make
a
ruling
on
it.
A
D
Eisner,
I'm
sorry
do
we
have
to
add
into
this
resolution
a
that
we
will
forward
this
to
the
ethics
for
them
to
make
that.
O
We
often
have
resolutions
that
provide
for
direction
to
city
staff
to
do
something
and
if
it's,
if
you're,
asking
for
the
resolution
to
be
amended
to
include
direction
to
provide
it
to
someone,
we
can
do
that.
We've
had
resolutions
where
we're
directed
to
forward
it
to
the
governor,
afford
it
to
the
pinellas
county
commission
forward
it
to
you
know
any
particular
board
or
committee
in
pinellas
county.
O
D
I
would
like
it
to
be
a
board
decision,
whether
we
do
that
or
not
I
mean
I've
listened
to
the
residents.
I've
listened
to
most
of
the
all
of
the
commission.
D
What
I
still
find
astonishing
is
that
there's
been
no
apology
and
no
ad
admission
that
something
was
done
incorrectly,
which
means
it'll
be
done
again
and
that
that
just
rubs
me
wrong.
I
I
heard
somebody
say
something
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
that
was
on
the
low
end.
There
was
a
thirty
five
thousand
dollar,
but
it
was
a
seventy
thousand
dollar
asking
and
yeah.
You
don't
do
that
for
free,
I'm
sorry,
okay,.
A
A
What
mr
trash
says
when
there's
a
motion
which
we're
not
going
to
get
to
that
until
the
public
after
the
public
comments,
when
there's
a
motion,
that
motion
can
be
amended,
I
think
in
in,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
two
ways,
one
to
add
some
direction
to
for
the,
and
I
would
suspect
it
would
be
out
of
the
city
attorney's
office
if
he
wishes
to
undertake
that
file
a
complaint
with
the
ethics
commission
or
number
two
simply
forward
the
resolution
to
the
ethics
commission
and-
and
I
don't
know
that
that
would
constitute
a
complaint.
A
If
that's
what
this
commission
is
wishing
to
do.
So
that's
that's!
That's
the
only
clarification
I
want.
As
far
as
this
conversation
between
commissioner,
eisner
and
and
attorney
trask.
Are
there
any
other
commissioner
comments
on
this
right
now?
Okay,
let
me
go
to
the
public.
Does
the
public
have
any
comment
on
this.
I
You
relax
514
ashland
avenue.
I
know
some
of
y'all
are
new,
but
as
a
board
you
can
put
into
this
resolution
some
of
your
concerns,
one
that
something
be
sent
up
to
the
state
office
for
ethics
and
not
sure
which
department
it's
in.
But,
yes,
you
can.
In
the
resolution
state,
you
reprimanded
direct
staff
to
forward
a
complaint
for
investigation.
I
Nothing
I
mean.
I
know,
commissioner,
cars
tried
to
do
what
he
thinks
is
best,
but
at
this
point
it's
what
you
guys
think
is
best
for
the
city,
its
reputation,
its
integrity,
its
transparency,
so
at
a
minimum
reprimand
on
paper,
send
something
up
to
the
florida
commission
on
ethics
and
let
them
do
their
investigation.
I
I
H
So
there
were
50
some
odd
people
watching
this
just
remind
you
to
go
to
the
zoom
and
make
sure
that
there
are
people
out
there
that
wanted
to
comment
also,
but
whatever
the
maximum
penalty
that
you
can
deliver
has
to
be
done.
Just
like
peter
said,
you
have
to
remove
him
any.
You
have
to
strip
him
of
every
possible
power
because
he's
already
said
that
he's
not
done
anything
wrong,
so
he
clearly
will
continue
to
do
wrong.
H
H
I
mean
that
when
I
looked
into
it,
you
had
to
be
an
individual.
You
couldn't
file
as
a
corporation,
so
I
don't
know
how
the
city
would
file.
You'll
have
to
have
your
attorney
or
your
clerk
call,
and
they
have
a
bank
of
attorneys
that
love
to
talk
to
you
about
filing
these
cases.
That's
all
they
do
all
day
long
is
accept
ethics
violations
and
as
long
as
you
have
factual
information,
they
will
launch
an
investigation.
H
Nobody
should
be
dismayed
by
about
how
long
it
might
take,
maybe
he'll
be
out
of
office.
It
needs
to
be
done.
What's
right
is
right,
so
it
doesn't
matter
how
long
it
takes.
You
start
the
procedure
and
let
the
chips
fall
where
they
may,
but
there
are
people
out
there
that
probably
want
to
make
it
comment.
So
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I'm
just
saying
peter
is
right.
You
have
to
strip
away
everything
that
this
man
does
you
can't
let
him
show
up
to
any
of
your
events
anymore.
H
I
mean
it's.
It's
got
to
be
over.
He
has
to
be
persona
non
grata.
It
just
has
to
be
what
it
is.
I
mean
person
without
integrity
got
to
find
a
way
to
remove
him.
If
you
can
make
that
happen,
he
can
be
replaced
when
peter
near
went
on
to
the
state
house,
they
appointed
chris
alohuses
to
his
seat
and
look
how
far
he
went
with
it.
H
So
I'm
sure
you
can
find
somebody
with
much
more
integrity
to
fill
that
seat.
They
can
go
on
and
be
the
mayor
someday,
but
this
guy
ain't,
the
guy-
and
we
still
don't
know
about
the
cash
part.
We
don't
let
the
ethics
board
find
out.
Let
them
investigate-
hopefully
that's
not
true,
but
somebody's
got
to
find
out.
H
H
And
that
has
to
change.
It
has
to
be
well
known
that
that's
no
longer
accepted
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
no
more
of
this
culture
of
turning
a
blind
eye
or
we'll
we'll
doctor
a
contract
to
fix
something
from
the
past.
Just
don't
worry
about
it
all
right!
None
of
that
for
you,
buddy
you're,
ruined
done
it's
over.
A
Are
there
any
other
public
comments
on
the
resolution?
If
not,
mr
jump,
is
there
any
remote
access
comments
concerning
the
resolution.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
you
know
we
I
think
we've
said
as
much
as
we're
going
to
say
this
evening
about
this
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion.
If
you
wish
to
have
clarification
of
how
to
proceed
the
city
attorney's
right
here
so
before
you
make
your
motion
if
you've
got
a
question
on
clarification
other
than
otherwise
make
a
motion
mary.
A
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
If
we
could,
when
the
motion
comes
make
that
distinction,
the
city
attorneys
noted
it
so
that
yes,
commissioner,.
D
D
The
restoration
company
signs,
a
contract
that
they're
working
for
insurance
proceeds
and
that's
where
it
ends
it
doesn't
matter
whether
they
do
the
line
items.
If
you
don't
understand
how
zacktimate
works
is
a
program,
you
can't
speak
about
it.
You
can't
ask
whether
the
line
items
on
this
were
done
or
not.
D
It's
an
agreement
for
a
set
amount
of
money
between
the
restoration
company
and
the
insurance
company
and
the
homeowner
has
given
up
their
right
to
any
funds
and
if
they
feel
they
didn't
get
any
any
of
their
worth,
they
have
to
hire
a
public
adjuster
or
a
attorney.
They
do
not
go
and
speak
to
a
city,
commissioner,
and
have
him
take
it
upon
himself
to
lean
on
the
restoration
company.
So
I
disagree
100
with
what
he
just
said.
A
A
D
A
All
right,
that's
it
then
roll
call.
Please.
M
M
A
A
G
E
Okay
thanks,
I'm
bob
robertson
project
administration
department,
director
for
this
item
staff's
requesting
a
contract
award
for
the
bid
stated
in
the
agenda
to
dmar
general
contracting
they're,
a
clearwater-based
contractor.
This
is
for
the
construction
of
the
new
clerk's
office
building.
E
E
Generally,
they
spread
the
cost
over
five
or
six
funding
accounts
to
sort
of
spread
the
the
costs
around,
and
I
guess
with
that,
mr
mayor
I'll
pause,
my
overview
and
mark.
If
you
want
to
bring
the
ron
up
to
discuss
the
funding.
A
I
think
I
think
we
should
get
your
questions
first
and
then
okay,
all
right!
That's
right!
Yes,
any
commissioner
have
questions
concerning
this
yeah.
I
have
a
question.
M
E
There's
you
know
a
couple
ways
I
can
answer
that
we
don't
really
know
and
we
don't
get
into
how
a
contractor
puts
their
bids
together
and
maybe
they
have
to
sub
out
electrical
whereas
another
contractor
they
self-perform
the
electrical,
so
their
costs
are
lower.
So
where
they
save
money
in
one
place,
maybe
it
costs
more
in
another.
M
M
I
just
on
that
basis
alone.
Have
hesitancy
saying
yes,
because
two
things
are
going
on
here:
either
we're
being
taken
advantage
of
by
contractors
that
tend
to
know
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
which
I
kind
of
doubt
or
b.
We
don't
know
what
the
hell
we're
doing
when
we're
estimating
things
which
is
a
bigger
problem.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Vice
mayor
lon,
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
carr.
L
Thanks
mayor,
so
we're
in
a
unique
situation
in
our
country,
we're
seeing
a
significant
amount
of
inflation,
supply,
chain
shortages
and
other
aspects
currently,
and
this
has
been
going
on
for
months
now
initially,
when
this
was
proposed
to
the
board,
it
was
1.2
million,
and
that
was
to
me.
It
was
a
bit
hard
to
to
swallow
at
that
point,
but
I
do
understand
the
situation.
I
don't
put
it
on
staff
in
any
regard
of
being
mis-bid
in
any
way.
L
I
do
understand,
though,
being
in
procurement,
that
the
cost
of
supplies
supply
chain
is
just
it's
an
uncharted
territory
that
we
haven't
seen
in
my
lifetime,
and
I
doubt
really
ever
with
this
situation.
I
think
we
should,
as
a
board,
be
maybe
looking
to
pause
this
overall
and
seeing
if
we
can
see
some
type
of
pullback
of
construction
supplies
or
something
along
those
lines
for
a
time
certain,
and
then
we
come
back
and
address
this.
Is
there
a
need
for
a
new
city
clerk's
office
100?
L
Should
it
be
over
three
million
dollars?
I
think
that
might
be
a
lot
to
talk
about
here
for
taxpayers
money
grant.
A
lot
of
this
stuff
is
on
the
impact
fees,
and
I
would
like
to
talk
to
ron
a
little
bit
further
about
that,
but
I
think
just
right
now,
we've
we've
been
caught
in
a
tough
situation
to
build
a
brand
new
building
and
demolish
one
at
a
bad
time,
and
I
think
the
timing
just
didn't
work
out
for
the
situation
right
now
so
happy
to
discuss
it
further.
A
Okay,
commissioner,
you
spoke
or
do
you
have
comments
or.
D
Yeah
I
might
as
well.
I
also
realized
that
it's
a
a
great
deal
of
money,
but
we're
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place.
I've
seen
the
condition
of
the
building.
D
D
I
don't
like
the
price
tag,
but
there's
three
price
tags
higher.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
ask
again
for
another
proposal.
What
would
it
if
we
could
even
possibly
save
another
hundred
thousand
dollars?
The
thing
I
have
with
this
is
what
I
don't
want
to
get
into
is
approving
it
if
we
approve
it
tonight
and
then
we
have
a
situation
where,
by
the
time
it's
completed,
it's
four
and
a
half
and
five
million
dollars,
and
so
my
question
that
I
would
like
to
ask:
is
there
any
contingency
in
here
for
the
builder
contractor?
D
Whoever
to
purchase
at
doesn't
have
to
take
delivery
but
has
to
purchase
the
major
components
of
this
building?
So
we
have
it
purchased.
So
we
don't
a
have
to
wait
for
it.
We
don't
have
to
have
delays,
we
don't
have
to
be
purchasing
a
I-beam.
Today,
that's
a
thousand,
and
tomorrow
it's
four
thousand
dollars.
D
E
Not
explicitly
built
out
in
the
contract
no,
but
the
answer
and
the
way
to
address
that
is
to
move
the
project
as
soon
as
possible.
So
we
take
approval.
We
have
their
pre-construction
meeting.
We
invite
that
contractor
to
after
they
get
their
bonding
all
set
up
to
submit
shop
drawings.
We
get
approvals
turned
around
as
fast
as
we
can,
and
then
they
were
able
to
lock
in
those
prices.
This
is
a
bid
price
they're
held
to
this,
so
how
they
work
those
those
numbers.
This
is
the
number
they
have
to
stay
under
well,
they're,
not.
D
Held
to
this-
and
I
alright
differ
with
you,
because
I
read
one
line
where
it
said
this
is.
This
estimate
is
just
for
bidding
process.
D
E
C
No,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
janina
lewis,
director
of
procurement
services
good
evening,
I'm
not
sure
what
line
you're
referring
to,
but
when
the
contractor
signs
his
bid
and
gives
us
his
number,
that
is
the
number
they
are
held
to
that
price.
That
they've,
given
us.
M
Look
for
that,
so
I
have
another
question
then:
may
I
do
a
follow-on
here
if
it
was
our
engineer
that
developed
the
pricing
model
for
this?
How
could
he
possibly
be
a
hundred
percent
out
of
whack?
I
mean
I
go,
I'm
sorry,
I
I
go
through
government
bids
and
proposals
day
in
day
out.
This
is
what
I
do
for
a
living
for
a
lot
of
it
anyway
and
I
would
be
summarily
fired
if
I
was,
if,
if
I
was
that
far
out
of
whack
in
a
four-month
period,
so
how
do
we
correct?
This?
C
Well,
I
can't
speak
for
our
engineers,
but
I
can
speak
for
the
time
frame.
We
have
to
plan
these
projects
out
and
maybe
bob
can
better
explain
that
as
well,
but
we
have
to
plan
these
projects
out
and
give
this
to
the
engineers
to
design
at
the
time.
So,
in
a
four-month
time,
we've
experienced
over
100
percent
inflation
on
some
items
that
maybe
we
would
have
never
thought
possible.
You
know
a
year
ago,
when
they
probably
you
know,
had
the
concept
of
this
project.
M
G
Let
me
give
you
my
perspective
that
you
all
who
go
to
the
florida
league
of
cities
conference
when
you
talk
to
your
other
mayors
and
commissioners
you're
going
to
find
out,
because
I
found
out
at
the
city
managers
at
our
conference
in
orlando
everywhere
across
the
state
universally
bids
are
coming
in
double
triple.
The
estimates
is
not
isolated.
It's
true.
It's
not
anywhere
else.
Every
city
manager
is
sitting
there
with
a
problem.
G
This
is
the
project,
because,
because
this,
what
we're
experiencing
and
everywhere
in
the
state,
no
matter
what
reasons
their
bids,
their
bids
are
all
doubling
tripling
and
it's
just
in
that
amount
of
time,
because
everybody
is
scared
of
the
supply
thing
and
you're
not
gonna
find
the
city
who
tells
you
that
they
estimate
anything
four
five
six
months
ago
that
are
coming
anywhere
and
you'll,
see
that
when
you
talk
to
your
city
officials
there,
because
that's
what
universally
all
the
city
managers
from
all
over
the
state
are
trying
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
them.
G
C
F
D
I
found
the
line
if
you'd
like
me
just
to
read
it
go
ahead
and
read
it
it's
on
page
7
of
44.,
it's
line
3.,
it
says
bitter
acknowledges
the
estimated
quantities
are
not
guaranteed
and
solely
for
the
purpose
of
comparison
of
bids
and
final
payment
for
all
unit
price
bid.
Items
will
be
based
on
actual
quantities
provided
determined
and
provided
in
the
contract
documents.
D
A
I
think
she's
looking
at
her
all
right.
Let's
let
me
ask
commission
if
you
don't
mind,
commissioner
eisner
go
to
commissioner
cooley
eyes
and
had
a
chance
to
say
anything
yet
go
ahead.
Commissioner,.
N
N
B
C
N
Right
for
growth
in
the
new
building,
I
know
this
project's
been
long
in
the
works
before
I've
been
around
and
I
know
the
city
managers
worked
with
the
city
clerk
on.
You
know
just
different
ideas
to
make
sure
they
optimize
everything
they
can
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
So
I'm
just
I
see
everything
and
I'm
okay
with
it.
I
understand
costs
are
going
up
everywhere,.
L
Yeah
I
mean
there's
some
commissioner
comments
that
came
up
and
I
don't.
Maybe
staff
could
talk
about
the
bond
a
little
bit,
how
we
had
a
similar
situation
on
the
road
where
the
contractor
walked
away
for
the
committed
amount,
and
then
the
bond
company
came
in
that's
my
understanding
that
we
set
up
some
protections
there
as
a
city
standpoint
in
the
contract,
with
the
the
bid
bond.
If
they
were
to.
J
E
E
L
E
L
Yeah,
I
have
some
further
comments
about
the
arpa
funding
and
other
things
along.
Those
lines
is
that
okay,.
A
Let
me
let
me
just
say
I've
taken
a
look
at
this
in
the
I
don't
think
anybody
likes
the
the
2.9
million.
There
are
three
other
bids
that
are
higher.
There
was
one
actually
a
lot
lower,
but
we're
having
some
issues
with
that
contractor
on
a
different
job.
A
Constructing
the
building
once
that's
constructed
and
then
the
clerk
moves
into
that
it's
demolishing
the
old
building
and
then
at
I
guess,
all
along
it
would
be
this
re
re
renovating
the
parking
lot,
I
would
say
with
the
so
there's
a
lot
more
to
it
than
that
and,
as
I
pointed
out
in
a
facebook
page
trying
to
educate
the
residents
when
the
clerks
first
moved
into
that
they
only
had
checks
and
and
cash.
That
was
the
only
two
forms
of
payment
that
they
had.
A
A
I
mean
this
is
supposed
to
match
our
historic
building,
and
that
was
not
a
cheap
way
to
go
about
it
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
I'm
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
be
here,
but
this
thing
better
be
here
50
years
from
now,
so
this
isn't
something
that
we're
just
going
to
put
up
for
10
years
or
20
years
and
then
do
it
all
over
again.
A
I
I
don't
like
the
word
legacy
because
it
connotes
a
bad
thing
like
the
commission's
doing
this
just
to
leave
a
legacy
for
themselves,
but
it
is
a
legacy
for
tarpon
springs.
This
is
all
part
of
this
historic
aspect
of
tarpon
springs
and
I'm
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I
would
have,
I
was
going
to
like
the
building
to
begin
with,
but
I
really
do
like
the
way
it
looks
and
and
then
the
the
circulation
of
the
traffic
and
the
parking
and
everything
yes.
D
D
So
I
mean
I
looked
at
the
building:
I've
been
inside
it.
I've
looked
at
the
outside,
there's,
so
many
structural
problems
with
it.
The
amount
of
money
that
we'd
have
to
put
in
to
fix
it
is
exorbitant
and
where
we
would
put
people
while
this
is
being
done,
because
I've
seen
all
these
questions
on
facebook
as
well.
A
We
actually
went
through
that.
I
mean
we
actually
went
through
trying
to
figure
out
whether
we
put
the
new
building
in
in
the
current
location
and-
and
we
looked
at
actually
moving
the
clerk
somewhere
else,
and
it's
just
untenable.
It
just
isn't
going
to
happen.
I
think.
A
Cover
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
reserve
of
overture
built
into
that
in
case
it
has
to
then
there's
the
solar
panels
are
75
000
and
then,
but
I'm
sure
that
doesn't
count
the
electrical
that
goes
from
those
down
and
hooks
into
the
maybe
the
the
electrical
box.
Maybe
it
does,
but
then
ms
jennings
would
be
happy.
It
includes
the
21
000
something
for
public.
A
M
C
When
we
do
sealed
bids,
that's
it.
We
don't
negotiate
beyond
that
point
unless
it's
just
like
a
minor
something.
M
A
Let
me
just
let
me
just
say
on
this:
the
build
out
is
330
days.
Is
that
correct
and
then
another
440
for
the
entire
complex?
If
we
will,
if
I
remember
right
right.
A
I'm
sure,
what's
built
into
this
pricing
is
hedging
for
future
price
increases
as
well.
I
don't
think
any
of
them
know
what
they're
really
getting
into
so
I'm
hoping
there
are
no
more
price
it
used
to
be
where
prices
were
very
stable.
We
could
get
very
competitive
bids.
I
don't
particularly
think
that
this
is
the
case
and,
and
I'm
just
got
my
fingers
crossed-
that
we
don't
wind
up
in
the
same
situation.
We've
got
on
gross
avenue.
A
Let
me
see
where
we
are:
we've
gone
through,
the
commission
we're
it's
10
47..
Let
me
go
to
the
com
public
comments.
Anybody
have
any
public
comments
on
this
item.
I
Brutal
acts
514
ashland
avenue-
I
don't
do
facebook,
but
occasionally
I
happen
to
see
other
people's
and
from
what
I
saw.
People
were
bitching
about
the
price
that
all.
Why
are
we
spending
all
this
money
for
this
who's
doing
this,
and
I
just
got
to
say
to
all
y'all
out
there
come
to
the
meetings,
because
this
was
decided
over
a
year
ago.
I
I
remember
coming
to
the
meeting
and
the
previous
board
and
some
of
y'all
were
here
and
I'm
sure
some
of
the
people
complaining
about
the
price
and
what's
going
on
we're
here
too,
so
it's
not
new,
but
and
I
appreciate
the
diligence
the
two
of
you
are
doing
to
find
what
you
consider
discrepancies
or
things
that
don't
match
up.
That's
your
job
appreciate
it,
but
you
need
to
move
this
project
on.
I
I
Now,
I'm
sure
I
know
the
roof
was
fixed
a
little
bit,
but
it's
been
long
overdue.
So
put
it
behind
you
vote
for
this.
You
got
a
few
minutes
left
to
get
some
other
business,
but
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
Irene
michelle
bobby
everybody
all
down
there
for
the
years
have
been
waiting
for
this
it'll
fix
up
that
area.
It'll
make
it
nicer.
I
The
only
thing
I
had
a
concern
about
was
you
got
the
old
band
shell
and
you
got
the
old
police
department
kind
of
right
there
affecting
the
beauty
of
what
you're
going
to
be
creating,
instead
of
kind
of
incorporating
all
that
into
maybe
some
larger
structure
to
assist,
but
that
can
be
a
future
day,
but
in
the
meantime
we
need
to
help
irene
michelle
and
all
the
gang
down
there
to
get
this
done
for
him.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks,
mrs
let's
see
I
I,
this
is
protos.
S
Yes
and
this
produce
again
pass
it
get
started.
I
remember
kathy
alisafis
and
mrs
pappas
were
waiting
for
a
new
clerk's
office,
how
many
years,
let's
not
put
it
off,
and
let's
get
it
done
in
the
next
two
years.
So
some
of
us
hopefully
will
see
these
girls
sitting
in
a
glorified
office
thanking
them
all
the
women
in
the
clerk's
office
for
what
they
do
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
our
elections
collecting
our
water
bills,
the
cemetery
it
needs
to
be
done,
and
it's
not
going
to
get
any
cheaper.
A
Is
there
any
other
public
comments?
There's
no
one
else
here,
mr
j.
Mr
john
penny.
Zoom
our
telephone
comments.
C
E
Yes,
mr
mayor
mitchell,
of
course
we
need
to
discuss
the
financing
options.
That's
ron.
G
Okay
ron,
if
you
come
up
and
there's
there's
four
options,
all
the
options
are
doable
ron
and
I
are
recommending
option
three,
which
is
using
a
million
of
the
funds.
But
again
any
of
the
four
options
will
work
he's
here
to
ask
if
you
have
any
questions
on
his
options
and
his
funding
again,
they're
all
for
work,
we're
recommending
alternative
three.
A
D
So
my
question
one
is:
I
don't
want
to
spend
the
dime
out
of
the
arp
funds
until
we
decide
what
we
want
to
do
with
all
of
the
arpa
funds.
I
don't
want
to
have
it
picked
apart
and
then
at
the
end
we
look
at
it
and
go.
Where
did
it
go?
We
have
nothing
to
show,
so
my
comment
to
you
would
be.
I
would
go
with
your
second
choice,
which
is
choice.
Two.
A
D
A
Let
me
just
try
and
shortchange
this
process.
We
can.
This
is
funny
money.
At
this
point,
we
could
change
the
funding
at
a
later
date.
The
funding.
A
A
later
date,
so
my
point
is
whatever
this
commission
wants
to
do
as
far
as
an
option,
but
once
we
get
into
that
arpa
funding,
I
I
would
suspect-
and
I
would
be
disappointed
if
he
didn't
the
city
manager-
would
bring
that
back
as
an
option
as
well.
Make
sure
we
didn't
forget
about
that.
So,
okay,
I
don't
know
if
that.
A
A
L
I
agree
with
mr
eisner
about
the
arpa
funding.
We
need
the
view
at
all
as
a
whole
before
we
make
any
further
decisions.
That's
my
stance
on
it
from
the
beginning
option
two.
So
there
is
money
pulling
out
of
the
water
and
sewer
fund.
That's
greater.
We
have
a
penny
fund
for
capital
assets,
water
and
sewer.
It
is
a
significant
amount
of
money
pulling
on
a
water
into
your
fund,
there's
an
impact
fee
for
sewer
impact
fee
for
water,
which
should
be
used
for
capital
projects.
L
A
Thank
you.
I'm
not
gonna.
Ask
any
public
comments
on
this.
Unless
one
of
you
raise
your
hand
and
want
to
say
something:
okay,
mr
jump,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
either
so
we've
had
opportunity
to
talk
about
that.
May
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
on
the
approval
plus
the
funding.
D
Then
it
would
be
choice.
Two
alternate
two
all
to
rather
that's
choice,
too
secular
enough.
A
Okay,
a
second.
L
A
Yes,
okay,
we've
got
one
last
item.
Actually
two
items:
that's
correct:
we've
got
an
addendum.
If
we
could.
These
are
important
items
as
well.
They're
time
sensitive,
the
city
manager
will
explain
that
to
you.
Could
we
can
I
get
a
motion
to
extend
the
meeting
till
11
15.
A
A
Yes,
all
right:
let's
go
to
the
last
scheduled
consent
agenda
item,
which
is
the
authorized
appraisal
for
potential
future
property
purchases,
city
management
course.
Yes,.
G
In
essence,
I'm
asking
you
like-
I
did
with
the
stamis
property
for
for
three
appraisals,
two
of
the
appraisal,
two
of
the
pieces
of
property
we
talked
about
in
the
april
21st
meeting
the
staffer
property
was
probably
maybe
our
only
but
one
of
our
main
areas
that
we
could
do
a
boat
ramp
to
look
at
chorus
park
was
the
other
one,
it's
essential
in
negotiation
with
the
owner
that
we
get
this
for
them.
G
The
third
property
is
one
you
haven't
seen
before.
It's
just
come
up
from
the
attorneys
of
the
property,
and
this
is
a
piece
of
land.
If
you
saw
off
florida
avenue
that
is
probably
as
essential
to
our
storm
water
in
that
area
of
south
florida
avenue,
as
you
can
see
from
the
back
up,
it's
very
intensive.
It's
a
land.
If
you
see
it,
looks
like
a
forest
in
the
middle
of
a
regis
in
a
residential
area,
it's
great
for
for
just
preserving
itself.
G
It'd
be
it'd,
be
good,
but
it'll
also
enable
us
to
have
control
of
that
property
and
fix
a
lot
of
the
storm
water
and
flooding
flooding.
Problems
in
that
area
that
we've
been
dealing
for
years
and
every
time
we
have
to
do
something,
we
have
to
get
permission
from
the
property
owner
to
go
on
the
property
they
came
to
us.
They
were
marking
it
and
for
people
who
are
probably
going
to
put
homes
on
it.
If
you
see
that
long
stretch
of
woods
it'd
be
a
shame
to
do
that
with
so
again.
G
Just
to
begin
with
and
and
to
be
able
to
bring
my
presentation
for
you
about
whether
you
want
to
proceed
for
it,
I
need
I
need
to
get
the
appraisal
for
all
these.
The
reason,
the
reason
is
time
sensitive.
We
found
out
from
the
staff
from
the
stamis
estimate
that
the
minimal
time
is
six
to
eight
weeks.
G
Usually
we
get
appraisal
in
three
or
four
weeks,
the
minimum
a
week
and
a
half
ago
we
asked
him
it's
running
six
to
eight
weeks
and
it
could
be
long
so
if
you
figure
the
time
frame
and
what
we
need,
if
you're
gonna
go
forward
with
the
property
and
then
go
to
referendum,
I'm
running
on
a
time
crunch.
So
to
order
it
now,
knowing
it
may
be
six
seven,
eight
nine
weeks
before
I
get
it,
and
then
we
can
bring
the
package
to
you.
I
need
approval
for
those
just
just
for
the
appraisals.
A
Are
there
any
commission
comments,
commissioner?
Carr.
L
So
there's
multiple
properties
here
mark
did
was
stop
or
the
owner
of
the
chemical
plant
property.
Were
they
open
to
selling
off
a
pizza
piece
of
it
or
not?.
G
L
G
L
G
L
G
O
L
L
G
L
G
L
G
L
Okay,
I
would
just
say:
can
we
find
out
when
the
deadline
would
be
for
the
november
election
and
then?
Secondly,
I
just
have
concerns:
is
the
ross
property,
for
example?
Would
they
be
willing
to
hold
it
for
having
nine
months
right
as
and
then
finding
out
answer
yes
or
no
market?
Could
change
in
that
time
period,
so
there's
a
risk
for
that
property
owner.
L
That's
why
I'm
just
saying
it
would
be
good
to
look
in
the
november
time
frame
and
then,
secondly,
this
there's
a
piece
of
property
number
two,
I
believe
is
that
is
that
connect
to
like
the
rusty,
belly's
parking
lot.
L
M
One
one
note
the
riparian
price
part
or
the
doesn't
go
along
with
that
piece
of
property.
It
belongs
to
the
other
piece
of
property,
so
make
the
appraiser
aware
of
that.
Yes,
because
if
he
misses
that
we're
yes,
we've
got
a
piece
of
property.
We
can't
do
anything
with
it
right.
Yes,
all
right!
Thank
you.
D
D
A
Commissioner
no
comment.
Thank
you
public
comments,
mr
dilakis.
I
Okay,
peter
likes
514
ashland
avenue
in
the
back
up.
There's
a
property
number
one
looks
like
it's
off:
the
the
old
railroad
just
north
of
the
water
treatment
plant
and
the
fire
station,
but
I
didn't
hear
any
reference
in
the
back
up
as
to
what
that
is.
I
I
You
got
all
this
open
land,
solar
panels,
you
put
your
own
solar
farm
in
you-
can
power
everything
there.
You
can
even
quite
potentially
direct
power
to
the
water
treatment
plant
and
the
fire
station.
Just
you
know
right
down
the
road,
so
I
think
when
we're
looking
at
acquisitions
of
property,
at
least
for
this
one,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
scope
is
just
for
that
small
section
or
for
the
whole
staffer
property.
I
So
it's
not
out
of
the
question
that
you
still
could
have
the
property
and
lease
it
to
a
marina
50-year
lease.
Just
like
we
leased
savannah
cove
to
the
people
who
own
that
we
still
own
the
property,
it's
just
a
lease
and
they
got
all
their
buildings
there
for
50
years.
When
that
50-year
lease
ends
up,
they
revert
to
the
city.
Unless
something
else
is
agreed
upon
at
that
time.
I
A
K
C
The
ross
property
and
have
had
the
city
have
they've
accessed
the
stormwater
drainage.
P
From
the
back
of
our
property,
and
since
this
property
has
come
back
up
for
sale,
they've
put
our
fence
back
up,
but
the
the
storm
drain
is
already
becoming
overgrown
with
vines
and.
C
P
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
jump.
Anyone
else.
A
Okay,
there's
no
other
commission
comments
and
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
please.
B
A
The
addendum
is
to
is
for
the
ankle
river
dredge
project.
Mr
the
course.
E
E
Of
course,
okay,
thank
you.
So
the
city
is
leasing
the
spoilsite
property
from
enclosed
properties
llc.
Mr
george
stamis,
we're
actually
leasing
8.3
of
the
14
acres
for
the
project.
The
contractor
is
on
site
now
and
they've
asked
if
they
could
extend
the
lease
area
to
have
some
additional
staging
for
the
project.
They
want
an
extra
two
acres.
Mr
stamis
has
agreed
to
that
on
the
condition
that
they
do
the
clearing
for
that
piece
of
property
or
that
segment
so
to
capture
all
that.
Mr
trask
and
I
worked
together.
E
He
helped
me
do
the
heavy
lifting
with
the
writing
of
two
agreements.
The
first
is
to
capture
the
extension
of
the
lease
area
by
the
two
acres
that
were
requested
in
the
city's
lease
agreement.
Mr
samus
has
agreed
to
do
that
with
no
additional
cost
for
the
monthly
lease
again
with
these
conditions
attached
to
it.
E
The
second
agreement
there
is
an
agreement
or
an
addendum
to
the
contract
that
the
city
has
with
diamond
services
to
amend
and
put
that
requirement
in
that
they
they
do
need
to
do
that
clearing
as
requested
to
use
that
staging
area.
So
this
is
the
vehicle
we
found
to
capture
this
request.
There's
no
additional
cost
related,
as
I
said,
and
it
extends
the
lease
by
12
months
to
make
sure
we
have
plenty
of
time
to
get
this
done.
So
I
don't
have
to
come.
Ask
you
for
more
time
again,
mr
mayor.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
please.
D
Motion
to
approve
enclo
dredge,
a
and
b
how's.
E
D
L
L
A
G
Want
to
ask
about
I'm
looking
for
that
date,
I
told
you
about
adding
that
extra
budget
workshop
to
prepare
and
talk
about
some
of
these
big
issues.
We
talked
about
harp
and
that
stuff.
G
G
Let
me
know
tomorrow
and
I
can
see
the
problem
I'll
start
looking
for
another
one,
but
there's
a
big
performance
of
beauty
and
the
beast
has
got
this
auditorium
for
some
nights
and
there's
the
other
normal
meetings
that
are
going
on,
and
I've
been
so
and
I
like
to
have
in
this
room
for
to
tell
I
think,
it's
important
meeting
to
televise
and
and
not
go
in
a
little
room
because
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
major
budgetary
issues.
So
I'd
like
to
do
it
in
here.
G
G
G
A
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
Let
the
city
attorney
see
the
attorney.
A
A
Any
other
comments,
no
that's
it
city
clerk
jacobs.
Let's
get
a
little
slow
down.
A
All
right,
let's
just
go
vice
mayor
lund,
do
you
have
any
comments,
no
comments,
commissioner.
Eisner.
D
I
just
want
to
say
happy
flag
day
like.
A
That
good
for
you,
okay,
commissioner
carr.
L
Yeah
thanks
mayor
just
want
to
touch
base
on
a
couple
things.
I
think
the
city
have
received
some
great
news
with
the
state
budget.
There's
two
line
items
specifically
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
one
for
mango
street
extension,
that's
basically
phase
three
and
then
mlk
spring
boulevard,
intersection
improvements
for
flooding
and
safety.
It's
about
one
point.
L
Just
under
1.6
million
dollars,
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
will
be
receiving
from
the
state
and
this
year's
coming
budget
of
fiscal
year
2223,
which
is
great
news
and
gives
us
ability
more
flexibility
to
use
funds
elsewhere
as
well
too
in
the
coming
future.
With
our
our
advert
taxes
and
revenue
that
we
have
as
a
city.
Additionally,
spc
tarpon
campus
received
a
five
million
dollar
funding
from
the
state
as
well
too.
That's
on
top
of
all
the
other
spc
funding
that
they
received.
So
it's
really
great
news.
L
I
think
from
the
overall
for
the
city
of
tarpon
springs,
and
I've
asked
the
city
manager
to
put
together
a
resolution
at
our
upcoming
meetings,
to
send
thank
you
notes
to
our
legislator,
chris
sproles
chris
lavala
senator
hooper
and
ron
desantis,
our
governor
for
their
assistance
in
getting
the
funding
for
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
I
just
want
to
thank
the
commission
this
evening.
It
was
a
tough
night
and
I'm
glad
you
voted
your
conscience
and
showed
your
resolve.
I
also
wish
to
thank
the
charter
officials
that
are
here
this
evening
and
is
a
tough
night
for
them
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
cooperation
and
I
think
we're
lucky
that
we
got
done
at
11
15,
although
we
were
supposed
to
get
done
earlier
so
meeting
adjourned
at
11,
13.