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B
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A
C
For
prayer,
Our
Father,
we
thank
you
for
our
mayor
for
those
who've
been
elected
by
the
people
to
serve
this
community
for
those
in
this
room
who
are
on
the
staff
who
support
the
Commission
in
so
many
different
ways.
We
thank
you
for
those
who
are
responsible
for
Public
Safety,
the
fire
and
police
and
Community
citizens.
Here
we
pray
that
this
time
here
will
be
a
productive
time.
You
will
oversee
the
proceedings
tonight
and
bless
us
each
one
as
we
serve
you
through
being
involved
in
the
city
government
in
Jesus
name.
We
pray,
amen.
C
A
E
Good
evening
Nick
macris
project,
Administration,
Assistant
Director
I,
had
the
pleasure
tonight
to
introduce
Christopher
Wren
who's,
the
senior
project
manager
and
the
Water
Resources
branch
of
the
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
and
the
Jacksonville
District
tonight
he'll
provide
a
brief
update
on
the
anklet,
River,
Channel
realignment
and
future
dredging,
but
we
know,
as
the
outer
cuts
and
he'll
be
available,
possibly
to
answer
some
questions
on
the
current
effort,
which
is
the
federal
channel
of
the
Anclote
River.
The
intercuts
thank.
F
You
mayor
yeah,
I,
appreciate
that
it's
been
about
a
year
and
a
half
since
I
was
here
last
time,
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
Thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen
with
me
today
is
also
Mr.
Andy
Cummings
he's
our
project
engineer
responsible
for
the
day-to-day
dredging
project
of
the
current
working
on
Anclote
River.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
there's
two
things:
I
want
to
give
you
all
a
quick
update
on,
because
I
know,
there's
a
long
long
list
of
agenda
today,
Adam,
so
I
want
to
get
through
quickly.
F
So
first
off
is
the
realignment
efforts
of
the
federal
Channel
really
for
the
local
Mariners
users.
It's
not
going
to
have
any
noticeable
difference.
Our
what
we
are
recorded
as
the
official
Federal
Channel,
doesn't
reflect.
What
actually
the
voters
are
using
what's
been
marked
by
the
Coast
Guard.
So
it
is
us
really
codifying
what
is
reality
for
that
matter?
If
I
can
get
this
to
work,
maybe
not
we'll
just
go
so
what,
on
paper?
F
Officially,
the
channel
is
is
the
blue
lines
and
then
is
that
red
and
white
segment
that
cuts
across
ankle
key
the
old
channel
before
it
turns
West
out
in
the
Gulf
as
technically
officially
the
channel,
so
we're
realigning
it
on
paper
to
match
what
is
reality
again.
No
real
change
to
what
the
users
will
be
seeing,
but
just
want
to.
Let
you
all
know
for
awareness.
That
is
one
of
the
efforts
we're
going
through.
A
F
F
There's
a
Sheldon
area
that
we've
identified
as
problematic
through
the
city
managers
through
Bob
Roberson,
we
identified
as
a
priority
for
dredging.
We
looked
at
it.
We
are
planning
to
have
it
dredge
about
this
time
next
year,
we're
using
core
core
dredging
plant,
the
Merton
in
particular
we're
still
working
through
disposal
right
now.
The
intent
is
to
dispose
of
that
showed
material
within
deeper
parts
of
the
channel
further
west,
where
the
water
is
deeper.
F
We're
also
looking
at
potential
near
shore
placement,
either
alongside
Anclote
Key
or
to
the
further
south
of
the
three
rookers
Island
so
still
working
through
where
we
would
place
the
material.
The
bottom
line
is
the
channel.
This
part
of
the
channel
will
be
cut.
It's
a
nine
foot
plus
one.
So
ten
foot
deep
throughout
this
entire
portion
of
the
channel.
F
One
thing
that
we
did
at
recent
identifiers
there
are
sea
grasses
growing
within
the
federal
Channel
at
this
portion.
You
can
see
on
the
map.
The
yellows
and
seagrasses
red
is
areas
that
are
shallower
than
the
authorized
depth.
I.E
shallower
than
nine
feet,
there's
about
three
acres
of
what
is
discontinuous
patchy
seagrasses
within
the
dredging
footprint.
A
G
I
was
a
little
sketchy
I
couldn't
quite
hear.
You
were
saying:
Athena,
sardulius,
634,
East,
Orange
I,
don't
have
a
boat,
but
I
do
sell
sponges
from
guys
who
do
have
boats
so
you're
hoping
for
this
time
next
year.
For
this
work
to
be
done,.
G
F
The
action
that
the
the
board
is
working
on
right
now
is
a
city
resolution
to
help
address
the
importance
of
the
stretching
help
us
describe
to
the
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection,
a
wise
dredging
of
this
area
needed
there
could
be
some
compliance
actions
we
need
to
go
through,
for
that
part
of
it
was
also.
The
timing
is
there's
another
part
of
the
gulf
intercostal
Waterway
that's
going
to
be
dredged
into
January
February
10
next
year,
so
we
were
hoping
to
tag
on
this
portion
with
that
work.
F
G
So
hopefully
January
24,
because
we've
been
working
on
this
for
eight
years,
so
you
have
to
excuse
my
a
little
impatience.
G
So
you
also
mentioned
a
seagrass
situation
and
redirecting
the
channel.
Is
there
a
one
concern
that
I've
had
as
a
lay
person
because
I'm
not
in
your
field,
of
course,
so
I've
heard
it
mentioned
that
that
would
be
redirecting
the
channel
to
where
it's
deeper,
which
makes
more,
which
makes
sense,
of
course,
and
is
there
a
vehicle
within
your
organization,
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers?
That
now
describes
that
as
the
legal
channel,
so
the
next
time
it
needs
to
be
dredged.
F
If
I
understand
the
correction,
the
question
yeah,
we
have
our
Internal
Documentation,
that
we'll
say
officially:
here's
the
new
channel
we'll
communicate
that
with
the
Coast
Guard.
They
already
have
this
area
marked
so
there's
no
shoe
there.
I
will
communicate
that
with
Noah
the
National
Oceanic
Atmospheric
Administration
and
they
all
codify
it
in
the
NOAA
Maps
as
well
to
show
here's
the
actual
official
Federal
Channel,
okay.
G
F
Realignment
should
be
done
well
in
advance
of
the
actual
dredging
keeping
in
mind
that
we're
not
dredging
any
parts
of
the
channel
That
being
realigned
right,
two
separate
efforts,
but
the
the
realignment's
pretty
straightforward,
we're
actually
working
on
the
paperwork
right
now,
and
that
should
be
done
here.
I
would
imagine
by
the
summer
of
this
year,
okay.
G
Like
that,
wonderful,
okay,
those
were
my
main
concerns
and
I
guess
you're
going
to
speak
to
the
the
river
dredging.
We
are
a
little
concerned
about
the
timeline
it
seems
to
be
dragging
on.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
I
F
The
red
areas
are
shoulding
shoulding,
that's,
basically,
the
channel
is
shallower
than
nine
foot
the
authorized
depth.
The
yellow
is
the
seagrasses.
It
doesn't
show
all
the
seagrasses
but
where
it
overlaps,
the
all.
I
Right
so
in
essence,
you're
saying
at
those
points,
what
type
of
is
that
mangroves?
What
is
it
that's
filling
in
in
that
area?
Besides
silt
building
up.
F
The
Stilton
and
the
seagrass
they're.
I
F
I
F
F
Plan
right
now
is
to
dredge
the
outer
Cuts.
Take
that
material
and
put
in
the
deeper
parts
of
the
channel
maintaining
at
least
10
foot
depths.
If
there's
not
sufficient
room
within
the
deeper
parts
of
the
channel.
To
put
that
material,
we
may
have
to
place
some
of
it
either
near
shore
by
ankle,
key
or
maybe
by
three
rookers
island
or
somewhere
else.
We're
still
looking
through
the
calculations
and
understanding
of
what
limitations
will
have
on.
Can
we
fit
all
that
material
in
the
deeper
parts
of
the
channel.
A
Okay
is
that
it
Mr
dalakis.
Okay,
any
other
public
comments
of
anybody
in
attendance,
Mr
jump.
Are
there
any
remote
access
comments.
A
Okay,
correct
so
let's
go
to
the
commission
with
the
current
dredging
in
the
inner
Cuts,
okay,
Mr
Julius.
Did
you
have
any
other
questions
concerning
the
intercuts?
A
K
I'm
just
glad
to
see
the
realignment
for
cut
one,
it's
I
don't
know
I'm
a
local
I
boat
out
there
that's
the
direction
we
all
go
in
these
days
anyway,
because
of
the
showing
that's
in
the
current
cut,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
it's
going
to
be
finally
become
official.
It
gets
a
little
bit
dicey
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
Sometimes
when
you're
looking
for
markers
that
aren't
there
anymore
are
we
allowed.
K
So
are
we
on
time
I
heard
between
March
3rd
and
March,
8th
for
the
pipeline
to
be
finished
or
whatever
for
the
dredging
and
the
intercuts
right.
F
Now
the
latest
is
we're
looking
at
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Tuesday
or
Wednesday
of
next
week,
seventh
or
8th
for
the
pipeline
being
clean
place
and
submerged
okay,.
M
Commissioner
Eisner,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
on
this
cut.
One
is
there
no
way
that
we
could
move
that
up
in
time,
or
is
that
what
is
actually
holding
that
up.
F
Right
now
there
will
be
the
the
sea.
Grasses
will
be,
the
main
consideration
main
concern.
We
have
to
work
through
once
we
get
through
that
there
could
be
a
possibility
of
moving
the
timeline
up
again.
We
were
trying
to
take
advantage
of
some
cost
savings,
because
the
core
dredge
would
be
out
here,
dredging
other.
M
F
Yeah,
we
are
looking
into
other
alternate
placement
sites
that
are
also
you
know
not
in
seagrass
beds.
So
that's
where
the
three
workers
potentially
came
up,
maybe
ankle
key.
We
did
do
surveys
of
all
those
areas
to
understand
what
the
bathymetry
is
and
if
there
are
sea
grasses
going
there,
there
weren't
any
sea
grasses
in
the
media
area
west
of
three
workers,
so
that
seems
like
a
potential
lead
if
we
could
not
place
it
within
deeper
parts
of
the
channel.
M
F
M
Also
on
that,
is
there
any
sort
of
an
allowance
for
the
Anclote
that
point
that
southern
point,
because
the
sand
tends
to
go
down
the
amp
cloat
and
come
in
and
around
that
whole
area.
There
is
one
huge
Sandbar,
so
is
there
any
allowance
for
that
where
they,
you
could
layer
that
or
remove
some
of
the
extra
sand
there?
So
that's!
It
gives
us
more
time.
F
N
M
M
Right
I
mean
for
me:
it's
just
thinking
of
preventive,
you
know
into
the
future
so
that
it
it
gives
us
time
to
deal
with
it.
But
would
you
be
doing
this
at
all
at
night.
F
The
future
dredging
the
curse
yeah
so
any
of
the
dredging,
not
the
current.
Judging
the
current
dredging
is
planned
for
daytime
out
daylight
hours
only
and
the
future
dredging
we
haven't
really
determined
day
or
night,
but
I
think
we'll
look
into
that
for
considerations
for
marine
traffic
and
safety.
H
P
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
just
think
past
commissions
and
City
staff
and
community
volunteers
to
help
get
us
to
this
point.
It's
a
big
deal
for
our
community
and
it's
we're
getting
there.
So
thank
you.
A
I'm
I'm
a
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
I'm
a
little
familiar
with
the
the
dredging
effort.
That's
gone
into
it,
the
new
route
that
I
know
part
of
it
so
long
at
the
Intercoastal
Waterway,
and
then
that
additional
new
cut
was
select
specifically
selected
for
a
deeper
water
to
minimize
any
dredging
that
would
have
to
be
done
and
with
minimizing
the
dredging,
there's
a
greater
chance.
It's
going
to
remain
navigable
at
the
project
depth
than
what
we
have
it
right
now.
So
I
want
to
get
that
out.
A
There
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
our
intercuts
and
the
channel
and
specifically
I'm
hoping
you
can
answer
the
questions.
But
if
not,
there
may
be
the
other
gentleman
here.
The
extended
turning
Basin,
that
is,
we've
got
the
the
Federal
turning
Basin
and
then
we've
got
the
extended
turning
Basin.
As
far
as
the
length
of
the
dredging
that
is
going
to
be
going
on.
Do
we
have
a
time
frame
for
that
as
far
as
the
the
amount
of
time?
Let's
say
we
get
started,
March
10th.
Are
we
looking
at
60
days,
90
days
or.
A
F
Q
Equipment,
hi,
I'm,
Andy,
Cummings
I'm,
the
project
engineer
with
the
Corps
from
the
Tampa
office,
yeah
I'm
running
the
contract
right
now
and
yeah.
Q
If
we
get
started
next
week,
which
is
what
it's
looking
like
I
think
it
would
be
probably
around
45
days
to
do
all
of
the
dredging,
including
the
Turning
base
and
the
non-fed
portion
or
sorry,
the
federal
portion,
our
portion
and
then
your
non-fed
portion,
the
extended
turning
Basin,
that's
probably
going
to
be
just
under
a
month
for
them
to
finish
that
so
doing
the
math
here,
but
I
think
we're
looking
at
probably
75
days.
Maybe
to
do
everything.
A
Q
No
I
mean
that's
going
to
be
run
by
the
city.
Basically,
what
we're
thinking
is
we're
going
to
do
all
the
federal
dredging
you
know,
including
Cuts
three
and
cuts
five
and
then
the
the
federal
portion
of
the
Turning
basin
and
then
that
our
contractor
will
basically
go
over
to
do
the
extending
turning
base
in
the
non-fed
portion
for
the
city
and
dredge.
That.
Q
Not
really
I
mean
what's
going
to
happen
is
because
we've
already
got
the
pipeline
in
you
know,
under
the
road
along
the
roads
under
the
road
and
we've
built
the
dmma
they're,
basically
going
to
do
our
dredging
first
then
go
to
your
dredging
and
then
once
they're
done
with
your
dredging,
the
demobilization
of
the
pipeline
will
occur
under
our
contract.
Okay,.
O
A
And
then
the
the
thought
I
had
was
the
the
bathymetry
I
know
you're
going
to
do
some
depth
sounding
as
far
as
to
confirm
that
it
was
done
within
the
federal
Channel
our
portion
is
that
going
to
have
to
be
done
separately,
or
is
that
going
to
be
done
by
the
Army
Corps
as
well?.
Q
As
far
as
I
know,
I
think
that's
being
done
separately
because
I
mean
I'm
the
person
requesting
the
surveys
for
the
federal
government
and
no
one's
mentioned
to
me
that
we
would
be
surveying
the
extended
turning
Basin.
Okay.
H
A
Guess
my
concern
is
that
we
want
to
make
sure
what
we
had
contracted
and
what
was
approved
as
far
as
permitting
and
depths,
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
actually
what
is
is
done,
and
so
it
sounds
like
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
internal
work
that
we
need
to
do
ourselves
for
making
sure
we
cross
those
t's
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
coordinating
with
the
Tampa
office
as
well
on
that
as
far
as
the
restoration
of
the
disposal
site
once
that's
done,
because
at
45
days,
75
days
is
going
to
come
very
quickly
around
here.
A
That's
the
contractor's
responsibility
as
well
or
is
I
I
know
it's
the
city's
responsibility
to
move
the
material.
Is
that
correct
to
to
a
different
location?
But
then
is
it?
Is
it
the
city's
responsibility,
or
is
it
the
contractor's
responsibility
to
restore
the
site
to
the
pre-construction
conditions.
Q
That's
not
part
of
our
contract,
so
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
probably
a
city
responsibility
to
restore
the
site
because
we,
the
last
part
of
the
demobilization
he's
going
to
do
after
you
know,
I
presume
he
finishes
your
dredging
and
he
comes
back
on
our
contract.
Time
is
he's
going
to
remove
the
return
water
pipeline
that
flows,
water
from
the
dmma
down
to
the
marsh
and
he's
also
going
to
remove
his
pipeline.
A
I'm
not
for
the
purpose
of
this
meeting,
but
it
sounds
like
we've
got
to
do
some
coordination
with
you
to
iron
out
some
details
on
all
of
this.
How
it's
supposed
to
work?
I've,
looked
at
the
the
the
permit
that
dep
had
issued
for
restoring
the
site.
I
know
that
there's
some
there's
responsibility
on
our
and
that
went
back
and
forth
one
time
it
was
a
contractors,
I
think
the
initial
bid.
A
It
involved
the
contractor,
doing
the
work
and
then
I
think
in
order
to
get
the
price
down
on
the
dredging
they
were
taken
out
of
the
equation
in
order
to
reduce
their
risk
of
restoring
the
site.
So
we're
fine.
As
far
as
the
presentation
tonight
I
see
a
green
light,
and
thank
you
both
for
being
here
I'm
going
to
ask
commissioner
Eisner
if
he's
got
some
additional
comments.
Yes,.
Q
Q
Time
frame
to
get
everything
done,
but
we
have
located
some
other
material
and
other
cuts
of
the
channel.
We
did
an
exam
survey
last
month
and
we
checked
other
Cuts
between
cuts,
3
and
14
all
the
way
from
cut
three
into
the
Turning
Basin,
and
there
are
areas
where
there
is
some
shoaling
that
you
know
we're
potentially
going
to
add
to
the
contract,
so
that
could
increase
the
time,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
but
and
that
also
might
come
into
play
where
The
Conjuring
might
not
have.
Q
You
know
planned
to
locate
AIDS
from
that
area,
get
with
the
Coast
Guard
and
get
them
to
relocate
those
AIDS.
So
once
we
give
him
what
we
call
an
RFP
request
for
proposal
for
this
additional
dredging,
he'll
have
to
look
at
it
in
relation
to
where
the
AIDS
to
navigations
are
located
now
and
then
decide
if
he
needs
any
locate
or
relocated
and
work
with
the
Coast
Guard.
On
that
too.
Q
Q
It's
usually
within
30
days,
I
mean
the
Coast
Guard
usually
tells
us
to
notify
them
at
least
30
days
in
advance.
So
yeah,
you
know
we're
I
mean
that's
the
other
thing,
the
timing
of
this
additional
dredging
that
we
might
end
up
doing
it.
It
comes
into
play
with
that
whole
scenario.
I
just
gave
you
about
doing
our
dredging
first,
the
federal
portion
and
then
doing
the
non-fed,
Turning,
bays
and
Portion
last.
Q
It
might
work
out
that
they
do.
Our
dredging
in
the
federal
Channel
then
go
to
yours
in
the
non-fed
portion,
and
then
these
additional
areas,
which
are
between
cuts,
3
and
14.
they
we
could
have
them,
come
do
that
at
the
very
end
of
the
job.
It's
it's
about.
It's
all
got
to
do
with
the
Contracting
time
required,
because
we
might
have
to
negotiate
that
with
them
up
front.
We
can't
issue
it
unilaterally
where
they
have
to
go
and
do
the
dredging.
Q
You
know
we
tell
them
to
do
it
at
existing
unit
price
and
they
can
come
back
with
a
request
for
adjustment
on
the
price,
but
they
still
have
to
dredge
it
up
front.
But
this
additional
dredging
we're
talking
about
it
it
it
could
be
done
at
the
very
end
of
the
contract.
Right
now,
it's
it's
undetermined.
We.
L
Q
M
I
understand
that
that's
why
I
asked
the
question,
because
these
parts
of
this
job
you're
doing
and
parts
of
this
job
you're,
not
so
so
that
leaves
us
with
an
empty
space
who
does
take
charge.
Q
Well,
I'm
sure
the
city
has
a
consultant,
an
engineer
who's.
You
know
working
the
dredging
with
probably
with
Bob
and
Nick,
and
you
know
I'm
sure,
he's
doing
the
same
thing.
We're
doing
on
our
side,
making
sure
if
there's
any
markers
or
coordinating
with
the
Coast
Guard
ahead
of
time
for
moving
those.
Q
A
Mr
Mac
versus
do
you
want
to
address
that
at
all?
Do
we
have
a
consultant,
that's
working
on
all
of
this?
As
far
as
bathymetry
and
coordinating
with
the
contractor.
E
Far
as
the
bath
metric
follow-ups,
you
know,
survey
I,
think
in
our
portion
of
the
extended
turning
Basin.
We
definitely
do
have
a
contractor
or
a
consultant
that
could
perform
those
Services
I
think
we
actually
recently
did
a
city-wide
survey
for
mathematics.
Surveys.
E
Excuse
me,
as
far
as
the
the
ongoing
continuing
coordination
for
possible
relocation,
you
know
of
nav
AIDs
that
I
can't
answer
with
certainty
at.
E
A
A
A
G
I
appreciate
the
Army
Corps
need
to
conserve
their
Financial
Resources.
We
all
do,
but
this
city
is
losing
money,
millions
of
dollars
every
year
that
this
project
isn't
done.
So
as
a
Citizens
group
Grassroots,
we
started
this
effort
eight
years
ago
and
we've
been
waiting
patiently
for
eight
years
for
this
to
get
done
and
the
most
important
thing
to
us
is
those
outer
cuts.
G
A
S
My
name
is
Debbie
McKinney
and
I
live
at
1021,
Rose,
Tree,
Lane
and
I
have
two
topics:
one
I'm,
a
girl
scout
leader
and
every
year
the
Girl
Scouts
sell
cookies
and
take
donations
for
Hometown
Heroes.
S
And
my
troop
is
a
group
of
freshmen
in
high
school,
too
embarrassed
to
be
here
and
in
the
past
we've.
Given
our
donated
Hometown,
hero
cookies
to
the
police,
the
fire
Library
nursing
homes
and
teachers,
and
this
year
they
decided
that
they
wanted
to
make
the
board
of
commissioner
City
staff
their
Hometown
Heroes.
H
S
Welcome
my
other
topic
tonight
is
block
parties
which
I
had
given
you.
A
heads
up.
I
was
coming
about
that.
Currently
the
city
has
a
34-page
application
and
a
22-page
application
for
special
events.
S
That's
not
what
we're
asking
for
special
events.
You
have
to
be
not
for
profit.
You
have
to
have
police
security.
You
have
to
have
insurance,
you
have
to
have
vendor
stuff,
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
you
need
in
these
34
22
pages.
S
What
we're
asking
for
is
a
simple
event:
application,
let
us
block
off
our
street
and
Bond
and
make
community,
and
maybe
one
time
a
year.
We
can
come
up
with
the
rules
and
there's
other
cities
around
us
that
do
it.
Clearwater
allows
them.
Safety
Harbor
allows
them,
St
Petersburg
allows
them,
and
then
I
went
even
further
out.
S
Palmetto
Bay,
Coral,
Springs,
Deltona
and
even
Fort
laudertel
has
a
little
how
to
do
a
block
party
kit
safely,
and
none
of
these
require
liability,
insurance
or
police,
hiring,
off-duty
police
or
any
of
that,
and
so
that's
what
we're
asking
for
a
simple
application
where
we
could
just
close
off
our
street.
We
even
came
up
with
some,
maybe
one
time
a
year.
Residents
have
to
agree
and
sign
off
on
it.
One
lane
kept
open
for
emergency
vehicles,
not
open
to
the
public.
S
Only
for
the
residents
and
their
families,
there'd
be
no
sales,
you
could
set
hours
for
them.
The
children
would
be
supervised,
no
fireworks
known
noise
control
things,
and
we
would
make
sure
that
our
street
was
cleaned
up.
When
we
were
done,
what
block
parties
do
they
create
Community?
They
create
memories
for
children
and
they
help
people
get
to
know
each
other.
There's
20
percent
of
Americans,
only
one
out
of
three
Americans
say
that
they've
never
interacted
with
their
neighbors.
Only
20
percent
of
Americans
report
spending
time
with
the
people
living
next
door.
S
That's
not
what
Tarpin
is
Tarpon
is
community.
We
like
to
have
know
each
other.
We
like
to
help
each
other
I
remember
about
10
years
ago,
I
had
woke
up
and
my
water
filtration
system
under
my
sink
had
burst.
My
house
was
flooded,
I
was
panicked,
I
didn't
know
what
to
do
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
I'm
knocking
on
my
neighbor's
door.
Saying
do
you
have
shop
backs?
What
do
I
do?
I,
don't
even
know
what
to
do,
and
so
they
all
came
over
and
they
helped
me.
They
turned
off
my
electricity.
S
If
it
wasn't
for
my
neighbors,
what
would
I
have
done
as
a
single
mom
all
by
myself,
so
things
like
that
is
what
block
parties
do
and
I
would
just
like
to
see
them
happen
in
Turpin,
Springs
I
have
talked
to
the
I'm
not
talk
to,
but
I've
communicated
with
the
city
manager,
who
referred
me
to
Major
trill,
who
called
me
and
told
me
what
the
special
event
rules
were
and
and
then
I
got
a
call
from
Chief,
young
and
I
really
from
I.
S
Didn't
get
any
answers
of
why
they're
not
allowed
other
than
some
well
in
the
past,
we've
had
some
issues:
okay,
well
I've,
been
here
for
23
years
and
when
I
first
moved
here,
I
went
to
the
city
hall
and
asked
for
a
block
party
permit,
and
they
said
we
don't
do
block
parties
so
as
an
average
citizen
I
would
just
like
to
know
what
is
our
next
step
to
have?
This
talked
about
and
discussed.
I
know
this
is
public
comment.
We
don't
discuss
it
now,
but
right.
A
And,
and
is
that
your
is
or
have
you
wrapped
up?
Okay,
I
know,
you've
spoken
to
the
police,
chief
and
major
Trill,
and
the
city
manager
I
think
has
been
involved
in
this
I.
Think
and
I've
also
watched
some
of
the
communications
on
social
media
as
well,
and
the
responses
I
think
one
approach
might
be
to
go
to
through
the
recreational
Advisory
Board.
A
We
rely
on
them
on
a
lot
of
these
things
as
far
as
extracurriculars
and
and
they
set
up
the
city's
events,
and
perhaps
they
can
shed
some
light
of
how
to
approach
it.
Whatever
you
would
have
in
mind
would
have
to
be
commemorated
in
a
city
ordinance,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
say
sure,
go
ahead
and
have
a
block
party.
You.
A
That
would
be
the
next
step
and
and
I
I
I'll
I'll
check
with
the
city
manager
tomorrow
to
see
how
we
can
get
in
the
two
of
you
together
and
and
go
from
there.
Okay,
I'm
sure
the
police
department
is
going
to
weigh
in
on
that
at
some
point,
but
that's
the
process.
We
would
go
to
to
ultimately
create
some
policy
which
would
be
again
commemorated
in
a
or
memorialized
in
an
ordinance.
Okay.
D
Is
an
abbreviated
policy?
We
already
have
one
on
there
how
in
your
further
conversation,
there
is,
besides
that
20
Page
there
is
an
abbreviated
one
and
there's
a
breed
that
was
put
on
hold
because
of
the
issue.
It's
there.
It's
available.
The
police
have
also
told
me,
there's
other
methods
they
can
give
to
you
to
do
that.
But
but
there
is
a
policy
in
place.
D
That's
in
place
and
I
can
tell
you
most
of
the
things
that
you
were
saying
is
in
that
policy,
but
one
thing
that
there's
not
going
to
be
a
compromise
from
the
police
or
myself
and
I,
wouldn't
think
of
any
board
that
would
compromise
on
it.
Is
safety
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
kind
of
safety
institution
to?
But
there
is
an
abbreviated
policy,
it's
very
short,
but
it's
got
some
things
laid
out.
D
O
A
A
U
So
I'd
hope
to
give
you
the
the
update
on
Clay
coulson's
lawsuit
against
the
city,
the
one
that
Endeavors
to
protect
the
74
Acres
on
the
Anclote
River,
currently
owned
by
Walmart
and
will
someday
soon
be
a
park.
U
There
are
many
things,
I
could
say
about
clay.
I've
known
him
for
more
than
25
years
he's
been
fighting
these
sort
of
battles,
the
whole
time
I've
known
him
and
way
before
I've
known
him.
L
U
U
I
wish
I
had
enough
time
to
explain
the
man
that
clay
Coulson
was,
but
that
can't
be
done
here
in
four
minutes
and
it
can't
be
done
by
one
man.
Nobody
could
know
somebody
that
well
so
there
will
be
a
celebration
of
clay
coulson's
life
at
Hungry,
Harry's
barbecue
in
Lando
Lakes,
this
Sunday
at
1
30
pm,
for
anybody
would
like
to
attend.
U
A
developer
recently
ran
Mr
Coulson
off
the
road
in
an
attempt
to
kill
him
and
wasn't
anybody
developing
here
in
Tarpon
Springs.
My
knowledge
is
up
in
Pasco
and
in
the
course
of
that
accident
it
was
discovered
about
Mr
coulson's
health
concerns,
whether
they
were
brought
on
by
that
accident
or
just
discovered
because
of
it.
I
don't
know.
U
But
there's
nothing
that
any
developer
can
do
to
stop
what
he
has
done
and
it's
ironic,
the
Army
Corps
spoke
here
tonight
because
Mr
Coulson
and
Leslie
blackner
sued
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
for
handing
out
Nationwide
permits
like
candy.
They
were
handed
Mount
like
beads
at
the
pirate
festival
and
they
stopped
that
and
that's
how
I
know
the
Army
Corps
will
no
longer
hand
out
permits
like
that,
and
this
property
will
not
be
developed
in
that
way.
U
V
V
Now
our
children
see
that
every
day
and
there
lies
my
concern-
there's
a
push
to
help
students
understand
what
citizenship
is
and
be
proud
of
their
country,
and
when
they
see
something
like
that
day
in
and
day
out,
they
don't
know
any
better
and
we
as
adults
need
to
protect
them
and
I
was
wondering.
Are
there
any
statutes
on
the
law?
How
big
a
flag
can
be
that
you
can
fly
next
to
your
neighbors
or
what
he
can
say?
A
That
particular
flag
that
you're
talking
about
has
been
a
topic
a
couple
of
times
in
the
former
City
attorney
wrote
a
memorandum
addressing
that
as
far
as
not
being
able
to
do
anything
about
that,
what
we
could
do
is
I
can
turn
that
memorandum
or
have
the
city
manager
turn
that
over
to
our
current
City
attorney.
A
V
And
being
that
I
was
an
administrator
in
a
school
district.
When
we
had
something
related
to
freedom
of
speech,
if
it
was
a
detriment
to
the
educational
process,
then
we
we
could
stop
it
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
something
is
it
a
detriment
to
our
children?
To
see
that
because
I
mean
we,
we
don't
say
those
words
around
our
kids
and
then
we
have
it
flying
and
I'm
not
saying
this
I
mean
if
it
said
something
about
the
other
side
I'd
be
here
today
too
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
disgraceful.
V
A
X
A
Me
interrupt
you
a
second
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
that
this
evening
is,
is
this
going
to
be
specifically
to
the
contract
and
the
contractor?
If
so,
then,
if
we
can
wait
until
we
get
to
that
agenda
item,
this
is
for
any
comment.
That's
not
on
the
agenda.
X
Well,
just
Sea
Breeze
is
one
blanket
statement
there.
We
can't
say
anything
about
it
unless
it's
comes
up
and
it's
a.
X
Yeah,
okay,
I,
believe
you
asked
this
city
engineer.
I
was
in
a
meeting
on
maybe
two
two
meetings
ago
and
you
asked
them
do
we
know
this
contractor
something
to
that
effect
and
he
said
well.
He
he
submitted
a
bid
once
there
was
a
mistake
on
it,
so
he
withdrew
it,
but
that
didn't
fill
me
with
confidence
and
I'm
wondering
does.
Did
this
contractor
have
experience
with
these
infrastructure
projects?
This
is
a
big
project.
It's
not,
for
you
know,
newbies
doing
this
kind
of
thing.
X
What
did
we
know
about
him
and
laser
proximity
testing
at
the
end
of
it?
X
It's
supposed
to
be
done
about
28
days
after
the
project
is
complete,
so
we
know
if
there's
sags
in
the
pipe
leaks,
whatever
I
believe
they
use
cameras
and
a
laser
and
I
would
hope
that
you
had
planned
for
that
at
the
end
of
it.
X
If
this
is
serious,
because
we've
already
had
one
problem
with
the
pipe
sinking
and
they
were
digging
forever
and
they're-
trying
to
cure
that-
and
people
are
afraid
to
get
rid
of
their
septic
systems
and
have
this
sewer
system
come
in
then
what
happens
if
the
sewer
system
goes
down?
Y
Good
evening,
mayor
and
Commissioners
Robert
rockline
755
North
Lake
Boulevard
here
in
Tarpon,
Springs
first
I'd
like
to
say
it
was
a
real,
pleasant
experience
and
and
give
thanks
to
all
those
involved.
With
this
weekend's
past
weekend's
Touch,
a
Truck
Event,
a
lot
of
the
city
staff
and
Department
people
were
out
there.
A
lot
of
information
was
exchanged.
Y
I
got
a
couple
of
trees
to
donate
to
my
HOA,
which
was
nice
a
lot
of
surveys,
a
lot
of
great
information,
so
I
really
want
to
give
a
you
know,
a
round
of
applause
to
the
city
staff
that
was
there.
They
they
spent
their
Saturday,
and
you
know
in
continuing
public
service
and
and
getting
out
information
and
facts
to
the
public.
It
was
really
nice.
Another
quick
topic,
I
know
parking
is
an
everlasting
concern
here
in
Tarpon,
it's
an
everlasting
concern.
Y
Every
place,
I've
ever
lived
or
worked
in
my
life.
It's
just
growing.
You
know
exponentially,
but
I
think
the
sooner
we
try
to
address
the
problem.
The
student
we
mitigate.
They
may
come
up
later
this
evening
with
with
concerns.
There
is
parking
on
and
off
it
waxes
and
wings.
It.
It
crests
it,
you
know
you
have
to
be
the
first
one
there
to
get
be
close
and
you
know
if
not
prepare
to
walk
or
or
bicycle
or
or
whatever
you
need
to
do.
But
it's
it's
not
inherent
to
just
Tarpon
itself.
Y
It's
all
over
the
block
party
subject
brought
tonight.
I
know
it's
probably
a
gray
area
in
the
city
code
and
and
some
of
the
statutes
and
such
we
did
did
this
in
Manhattan
take
took
in
blocks
at
a
time
so
emergency
vehicles
and
things
like
that.
All
the
notifications
can
be
mitigated.
There's
all
Alternatives
planned
fire
department,
ambulance,
police
department.
This
was
every
weekend
Spring
and
fall
in
probably
one
of
the
busiest
places
on
the
planet.
It
can
be
done,
it's
great
for
the
communities
it
builds
Bridges.
Y
Instead
of
building
walls
gets
people
together
that
normally
just
wave
high
and
buy.
There
are
some
detriments
that
are
possible.
One
is
noise.
Sometimes
these
things
go
on
a
little
late,
sometimes
Outsiders
migrate,
because
they
have
friends
there
or
want
to
see
how
the
girls
on
that
block
are,
or
something
like
that.
There
are
things
to
be
aware
of
and
I
trust
that
the
city
staff
and
the
rec
committee
will
will
address
that
and
take
a
look
at
what
you
had
before.
Y
Like
everything
else
compromise
you
know
everybody's
a
little
happier,
but
he's
a
little
unhappy
and
something
happens,
and
then
one
click
verb.
I
know
a
lot
of
things
are
coming
up
about
pickleball,
it's
the
new
craze
in
life,
but
being
that
Greece
is
very
close
to
Italy
and
separated
only
by
a
little
stretch
of
water.
Bocce
courts
have
been
catching
on
all
over
and
two
Bocce
courts,
50
by
100
Oldsmar
has
great
ones.
Clearwater
has
a
terrible
one.
Y
It's
something
else:
Recreation
wise
for
diversity
and
and
increase
of
family
children
seniors
of
very
low
impact
sport.
Even
though
pick
ball
is
better
than
tennis.
Bocce
is
better
than
bowling
or
or
anything
else,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
Mr
Rockland.
I
I
I
I
I
I
W
Do
have
one
this
is
from
David
White
730,
North,
old
Coachman,
Road
Clearwater
Florida
I
propose
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
higher
musician,
Cal
Morris
as
an
honorary
Diplomat
to
market
the
history
and
traditions
of
this
great
town.
The
story
of
a
talented
violinist
Who
has
fought.
Cancer
speaks
to
the
way
this
town
has
fought
to
maintain
his
traditional
Greek
Heritage
Cal
has
performed
all
over
the
country
and
has
chosen
to
make
Tarpon
Springs
his
home.
His
music
has
attracted
visitors
to
shops
that
many
don't
even
know
are
there.
A
We
we
have
our
rules
of
procedure
that
at
7
30
we
have
to
move
on
to
our
resolutions
and
ordinances.
We
have
two
brief
resolutions
this
evening
and
it's
7
29.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
just
wait
for
about
a
minute
we
have
to
by
law
and
then
move
into
the
ordinances
and
resolutions
get
those
done
and
then
come
back
to
the
regular
agenda,
which
would
we
we
would
be
picking
up
with
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
A
M
Yes,
I
did
I
did
want
to
just
say
something.
You
know:
I
noticed
that
every
11
to
14
years
we
had
they
widened.
The
Basin
that
hasn't
been
addressed
in
75
years.
Is
that
850
feet?
Is
that
take
up
the
entire
Basin?
Is
that
what
that
is?
That's
the
length
of
it?
Okay,
so.
A
Well,
no,
it
it
that
was
established
by
Congress
and
it's
been
modified
by
Congress
over
the
years.
So
it's
basically,
we
have
no
say
over
the
size
of
that,
okay
and
and
but
we
are
increasing
the
depth
of
the
extended
turning
Basin,
which
is
going
to
go
beyond
that
850
feet.
That
was
my
only
question.
No.
H
A
You
no
other
comments.
Roll
call
please,
commissioner,.
B
AA
A
Z
2023-11
a
resolution
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
strongly
supports
recommendations
made
that
Tarpon
Springs
receives
an
individual
seat
and
that
the
cities
of
Oldsmar
and
Safety
Harbor
share
one
seat
on
forward
Pinellas
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Hereof.
A
A
A
The
last
information
is
going
to
go
to
consideration
approval
to
Ford
panels
Council
this
first
meeting
in
March,
that's
from
the
vice
mayor
of
Oldsmar
Who
is
the
person
representing
Us
in
that
three
City
seat
right
now,
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
still
the
case,
but
we
felt
it
would
be
important
to
do
this
resolution
submit
it
to
those
that
need
it
ahead
of
time,
just
in
case
it
does
get
done
this
early
so
after
that,
if
if
they
go
ahead
and
approve
it
to
answer
your
question
when
we,
when
we
have
this
swearing-in
of
the
new
commission,
will
be
reassigning
seats
at
that
time.
A
You,
let's
go
to,
let's
have
a
motion
and
a
second
please
for
this
approving
your
resolution
motion.
K
I
wanted
to
set
people's
expectations,
though,
as
far
as
the
timing
of
this,
although
it's
going
to
be
discussed
at
the
March
8th
meeting,
it
has
to
be,
if
it's
agreed
upon,
then
it
has
to
be
ratified
by
all
mpo
members,
which
means
everybody.
That's
a
member
of
of
foreign
has
to
ratify
this
individually.
That
could
say.
Take
some
time.
K
I
checked
on
this.
It's
expected
to
take
until
August.
No
for
that
to
occur
sometime
around
September
October
is
when
the
final
action
is
going
to
be
taken
by
the
FP
board,
and
then
it
has
to
go
to
the
governor
governor
for
signature.
K
A
K
Is
what
they
call
it,
and
so
my
guess
is
maybe
early
next
year,
I
just
wanted.
K
A
O
AB
Yeah
this
is
I
would
like
to
just
reiterate.
This
is
a
great
appointment
for
the
city.
It
was
a
rotating
seat
before
Ford
Pinellas
has
a
lot
of
grant
money,
that's
available
for
planning
and
also
doing
brick
and
mortar
projects.
AB
O
M
P
A
The
process
for
obtaining
the
seat
is
going
to
take
some
time,
but
if
the
commission
would
like,
maybe
some
consideration
in
April
or
May
to
appoint
one
commissioner
to
sit
in
and
get
familiar
as
far
as
being
the
if
we
do
get
passed
and
get
the
seat
perhaps
sit
in
on
some
of
the
meetings
forward
Pinellas
and
get
used
to
what
goes
on.
So
they
can
step
right
in
when
they're
ready
when
that
seat
becomes
available.
So
there
any
further
comments
and
let's
have
a
roll
call.
Please.
B
A
A
Are
there
any
just
general
comments
from
the
commission
on
this?
Okay,
any
public
comments,
General
comments,
Mr
jump.
Are
there
any
comments
concerning
any
of
this
remote
access.
B
B
M
Yes,
thank
you.
I
did
want
to
pull
this
on
just
to
let
the
residents
know
that
I
had
spoken
with
the
city
manager.
Regarding
this,
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
proactive
and
he
agreed
with
me
on
this.
M
M
Think
that
all
of
these
items
as
I've
been
speaking
about,
needs
to
be
looked
at,
and
we
just
agreed
that
there
was
no
need
to
have
it
to
spend
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
in
rental
until
we
can
get
a
contract-
and
you
know
get
this
piece
replaced
so
I
would
we
were
on
in
agreement,
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
we
do
need
to
look
at
these
items
and
just
proactively,
replace
before
there
garbage
that's
it.
So.
A
M
That
list
I
have
a
list
of
all
the
vehicles,
but
Mike
Vecchio
is
is
looking
into
exactly
this
particular
item,
hopefully
so
that
we
don't
get
this
again
because
we
took
the
unit
cost
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
actually
lost
25
000,
just
on
rental
to
me.
It's
a
loss,
so
I.
D
Don't
know
we
did
have
a
list
and
I
think
I
know
two
of
two
of
us
Vice.
The
vice
mayor
and
commissioner
Eisner
has
took
a
tour
with
with
Mike
to
talk
about
him.
We
have
got
the
right
person
in
place
to
do.
This
has
been
needed
for
some
time
we
haven't
had,
but
now
we
have
the
right
person
to
do
exactly
what
what
he's
been
saying
and
we're
gonna
be
working
and
he
is
working.
D
M
K
O
M
P
A
M
This
was
more
so
a
comment
than
anything
else,
just
pretty
much
like
number
four
we've
adjusted
and
keep
increasing
the
amounts,
and
you
have
to
take
that
into
consideration
when
we're
looking
at
millage
rates
and
reducing
millage
rates,
and
these
are
the
type
of
things
that
went
by
by
acquiring
the
right
security,
we're
being
fiscally
responsible.
So
that's
pretty
much
what
I
wanted
to
say.
I
approve
this
and
I
I'd
like
to
see
stuff
like
this,
where
we're
proactive
opposite
to
what
number
four
was
so.
A
Okay,
thank
you
vice
mayor
to
learn
anything.
K
This
is
obviously
the
end
of
a
five-year
contract
that
terminates
on
531..
The
agreed
upon
value
in
the
initiation
was:
was
ninety
thousand
dollars
a
year
per
se?
So
it's
it's
not
untoward
for
us
to
do
this.
My
big
question
is:
what
do
we
do
after
5
31?
L
Paul
Smith
Public
Services
director
I'm,
going
to
ask
assistant
director
Tommy
Kiger
to
answer
he's
really
involved
in
this
more
in
depth
than
I
am.
AC
Thank
you,
Thomas
Kiger
assistant,
Public,
Services
director.
Yes,
we
do
have
plans
for
this
contract
we're
trying
to
move
this
forward
right
now
for
this
specific
project,
we're
trying
to
keep
some
of
our
capital
projects
on
track.
That's
why
we're
proceeding
with
the
scope
of
work
in
this
item,
but
we're
also
currently
working
with
procurement
to
develop
updated
bid
documents
to
put
this
back
on
the
street
in
the
near
future,
so
that
we
don't
have
any
lapses
in
coverage
for.
AB
A
question
Tommy
yeah,
the
funding
is
Wastewater
Treatment
Facility
in
RO
water
treatment
facility.
Is
that
paid
from
water
bills?
Yes,
okay,
so
it's
not
adblorm
taxes
and
property
taxes.
A
Commissioner,
you
it
started
at
commissioner,
no
comment:
okay,
I'm
fine!
Are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
the
Signum.
A
A
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
couple
of
comments
unless
you
want
to
okay.
This
is
something
that
I've
been
involved
in.
The
city
manager
has
been
involved
in.
The
police
chief
has
been
involved
in
along
with
Miss
Ada
del
guys
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
shepherd
center,
and
we
also
have
with
us
this
evening.
John
consolino
who's,
the
president
of
the
shepherd
center
and,
as
many
of
you
know,
we've
had
issues
not
so
much
with
the
idea
of
feeding
people.
A
That's
a
good
thing,
but
what
happens
after
the
people
leave
the
the
location
of
the
shepherd
center?
We've
we've
had
some
issues
with
that
and
the
activity
at
the
shepherd
center
is
is
probably
increased
to
the
point
where
there
needs
to
be
a
discussion
and
a
plan
for
relocating
those
Services
elsewhere.
A
So
we
have
a
letter
from
the
Ms
delgeice
and
that
was
approved
by
her
board
and
asking
to
confirm
whether
we
would
participate
in
this
as
I
had
just
described,
and
so
tonight
it's
there's
two
parts
to
this.
One
is
for
the
commission
to
discuss
and
if
it
so
chooses,
to
confirm,
participating
in
this
matter
from
the
standpoint
of
looking
for
property,
and
then
it
would
also
give
the
shepherd
center
the
ability
to
begin
fundraising
for
constructing
the
facility.
A
So
the
idea
would
be
that
we
would
provide
a
portion
of
the
land
of
the
total
land
that
we
would
purchase
for
the
disposal
site
have
utilities
at
that
location
and
then
everything
else
that
would
be
needed
for
the
shepherd
center
operations
would
be
built
by
the
shepherd
center.
It's
resolve
as
far
as
the
disposal
site
it
would
just
be.
It
has
to
fit
certain
characteristics,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
it.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
on
the
river
and
in
fact
it's
probably
preferable
that
it
not
be
on
the
river.
A
But
it's
got
to
be
close
enough
to
where
we
can
get
the
effluent
back
to
the
river
and
in
a
in
a
reasonable
way.
So
the
second
part
of
that
would
be
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
seek
the
services
of
a
real
estate
consultant
for
that
purpose
of
identifying
a
large
enough
parcel
to
accommodate
both
the
shepherd
center
facility
project
refuge
and
also
for
the
disposal
Pond
of
future
dredgings
of
the
inclo
river.
A
A
That's
watching,
there's
little
doubt
in
my
mind
that
whatever
is
identified
as
far
as
a
solution
that
is
going
to
require
the
purchase
of
property,
given
the
amount
of
the
properties
that's
going
to
exceed
the
threshold
of
350
000,
which
means
that
the
residents
are
going
to
have
to
approve
it
as
a
at
a
voter
referendum.
And
it's
going
to
be
probably
the
entire
concept
that
would
be
on
the
referendum,
not
just
simply
the
purchase
of
the
property.
So
that's
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
it's
a
long
process.
It's
not
anything!
A
That's
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
again,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
share
this
information
with
you
this
evening
and
get
the
thoughts
of
the
the
commission
and
the
the
residents
that
are
here
this
evening.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
to
the
residence
first
and
then
we'll
have
questions
and
comments
for
the
commission
Miss
delgi.
Do
you
have
anything
that
you'd
like
to
offer
or
Mr
consolino?
If
you'd
like
to
offer
anything.
AD
Hi
everybody
I
just
want
to
explain
to
our
residents
and
our
businesses
what
project
Refuge
would
entail.
AD
I've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
homeless
and
about
taking
them
away
from
the
heart
of,
like
you,
said,
Tarpon
Springs,
and
what
I
am
looking
for
and
with
the
grace
of
God,
because
it
is
only
through
him
that
this
will
be
possible
is
to
be
able
to
have
a
place
where
the
homeless
can
go
to
sleep
if
they
want
we're,
hoping
to
have
dormitories
we're
hoping
to
have
actual
beds
instead
of
mats
but
somewhere,
where
they
can
sleep
or
just
you
know,
be
able
to
eat
and-
and
we
can
create,
you
know,
programs
and
and
do
I'm
hoping
to
do
OJT
projects
Etc
to
give
them
that
that
you
know
dignity
that
they
do
deserve.
AD
A
lot
of
these
people
are
residents
of
Tarpon
Springs.
They
either
lived
here
many
years
ago
and
something
happened
in
their
lives
and
they
were
somewhere
else
and
they
came
back
home
now.
I
understand
that
we
have
a
lot
of
homeless
people
coming
from
Saint,
Petersburg
or
Clearwater,
and
they
come
for
the
meals.
But
the
majority
of
them
I
can
attest
to
that,
because
I
see
it
and
I'm
there
is
that
they
once
they
finish
their
meals,
they
take
that
bus
and
they
go,
and
then
they
go
wherever
they're
they're
coming
from,
but
another.
AD
AD
Before
covet,
we
used
to
serve
probably
about
100
150
people
that
we
would
provide
food
for,
and
now
we've
had
days
where
we
have
300,
and
this
is
the
underprivileged.
This
is
people
that
have
homes,
but
that
they
don't
have
enough
money
to
pay
for
the
food
Etc
and,
of
course
we
are
blessed.
We
are
blessed
immensely
that
we
are
able
to
get
a
lot
of
food
donated.
AD
You
know
from
feeding
America,
you
know
the
Publix
is
the
will
Winn-Dixie
Etc
that
were
able
to
provide,
and
we
have
been
serving
everyone
in
Pinellas
County,
so,
whereas
at
one
time
we'd
only
serve
Seven
Cities
now
we're
serving
the
whole
county
of
Pinellas.
We
also
serve
holiday
because
it's
right
across
the
street
from
us
now.
AD
What
the
issues
that
have
come
up
is
that
we
have
a
problem
in
parking
when
you
have
three
300
people
trying
to
find
parking
in
the
heart
of
Tarpon
Springs,
which
is
downtown
Tarpon,
it
becomes
very
difficult.
I
feel
that
if
we
had
the
opportunity
to
have
this
property
that
people
can
just
park
and
not
not
not
take
away
the
residents
or
the
businesses
parking,
if
we
can
do
that,
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
am
willing
to
do.
AD
To
move
our
pantry
to
move
our
Outreach
and
to
move
the
the
Hope
Center
to
that
property.
To
be
able
to
create
more
programs
for
our
homeless
to
be
able
to
serve
the
underprivileged,
much
faster
and
better,
without
having
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
you
know
thank
God
for
our
police
Department,
because
you
know
I,
don't
know
what
I
would
do
without
them,
because
they
help
help
us
a
lot.
AD
But
you
know
they
have
to
come
down,
sometimes
because
they're
parking,
you
know,
places
where
they're
not
supposed
to
park-
and
this
is
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
take
that
away
from
downtown
Tarpon
and
to
put
it
somewhere
else.
Of
course,
our
thrift
store
is
our
main
source
of
income.
We
don't
get
grants
or
anything
like
that.
We
get
from
the
thrift
store
and
from
generous,
generous
donors.
AD
So,
of
course
the
thrift
store
would
remain
at
304,
South
Pinellas,
but
I,
just
I
just
came
to
the
city
to,
and
we
discussed
this
program
because
I
would
like
it
to
be
a
city,
the
the
entire
city
planning.
For
this
this
is
not
going
to
be
and
I
repeat.
This
is
not
a
state
shelter.
This
will
only
be
for
the
people
in
Tarpon
up
to
maybe
Palm
Harbor
and
and
a
few
of
those
that
come
from
a
holiday.
That
is
it.
AD
We
don't
want
people
coming
from
Saint,
Petersburg
or
anywhere
else.
We're
not
going
to
be
on
that
list
that
we're
a
shelter.
This
is
a
community
project
that
I
would
like
us
all
to
work
on
to
help
raise
the
money.
If
we
can
to
do
I
mean
get
grants
to
do
whatever
we
have
to
do
in
order
to
make
our
community.
You
know
that
people
will
feel
safer,
that
people
will
not
feel
intimidated,
that
you
know
that
that
you
know
that
we
that
it'll
be
something
that
it
was
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs.
AD
This
is
what
they
did
for
their
homeless
Community
for
the
underprivileged,
and
that
is
what
my
desire
and
and
my
intent
is
not
only
for
our
people,
that
we
serve
my
children,
which
are
the
homeless
because
they
have
nobody,
okay,
but
also
for
everyone
in
the
community
that
we
can
just
all
work
together
in
order
to
get
this
this
Project's
accomplished,
and
if
you
ever
have
any
questions
anything
please
contact
me.
Please
come
to
the
shepherd
center.
I
am
willing
to
sit
down
with
you
explain
how
things
work.
AD
Give
you
a
tour
of
what
we
we
do,
because
I'm
going
to
tell
you
something.
People
have
been
shocked
when
they
have
gone
to
the
Hope
Center
and
they
see
all
those
homeless.
People
in
our
Courtyard
eating
together
and
I
even
had
the
privilege
of
having
our
mayor
go
there
and
and
and
and
they
clapped,
and
they
were
so
happy
that
the
mayor
was
there.
You
know
you
know
people,
we
do
have
that
one
or
two
handful
that
are
problems
but
we're
taking
care
of
it.
AD
You
know
we're
dealing
with
some
people
that
you
know
they're
mentally.
You
know,
disabled.
You
know
we're
we're
dealing
with.
You
know
people
that
you
know
that
that
need
jobs.
You
know
I
will
say
very
proudly
that
I
have
hired
about
five
six
seven
throughout
the
year,
the
homeless,
to
do
work
that
they
have
gone
beyond
that
they
have
I
mean.
AD
A
AD
AD
But
that
we
have
been
able
to
you
know,
create
jobs
for
them,
that
you
know
that
shower
that
they
come
in,
they
take
a
shower,
and
you
know:
they've
got
a
job.
We
provide
the
clothing,
underwear,
socks
and
everything
we
dress
them
up.
We
help
them
with
resumes
Etc
so
that
they
can
go
out
that
you
know
go
out
and
get
a
job.
Others
I
have
them
working
in
the
shepherd
center,
whether
they're
volunteers,
whether
they're
paid
employees
they're
working
together
to
try
to
you,
know
change
their
lives.
AD
I
mean
we
have
so
many
that
have
gotten
their
apartment
for
the
first
time.
You
know
and
of
course,
as
the
shepherd
center.
As
our
mission
that
we
have
you
know
we
provide
not
only
the
clothing,
we
provide
the
furniture
we
provide
the
house
with,
we
just
get
them
set
up,
because
that
is
our
privilege,
and
that
is
what
God
has.
AD
That
is
what
God
has
put
into
our
heart
and
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
something.
The
shepherd
center
is
a
god-driven
organization,
because
nothing
is
done
without
him
coming
first,
and
he
comes
first
in
everything
that
we
do
so
I.
Just
want
to
thank
everybody.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
ask
me
and.
A
To
you
know
what
I
do
guys
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
little
clarification.
One.
Is
that
we're
going
to
be
voting
to
adopt
the
concept
that
you've
proposed
and
then
and
then
move
ahead
with
that?
One
of
the
you
know
and
and
to
be
clear
that
the
food
operations
at
the
shepherd
center,
including
the
Hope
Center,
would
be
located
to
this
new
facility.
That
would
leave
your
retail
store
in
operations
that
correct,
correct,
okay
and
then
they
will
no
longer
be
food
dispensed
at
that
location.
O
AD
To
move
the
whole,
you
know
the
food
and
and
and
the
homeless,
and
everyone
to
to
just
a
designated
place
where
nobody
will
be
bothered
about
parking,
Etc
and
so
forth.
And
you
know
whatever
in.
AF
AA
AF
We
passed
a
resolution
on
our
board
that
if
the
city
agrees,
we
agree
and
we
are
ready
to
go
to
work
to
do
whatever
we
have
to
do
to
fund
the
facility
operate.
The
facility
move
everything
from
downtown
to
that
area
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
the
Assurance
of
our
board
that
we've
all
agreed
so
thank.
A
AG
Name
is
crispellitis1397
Greenleaf,
Court,
Tarpon,
Springs
I'm,
a
member
of
The
Jeffersons,
and
the
board
and
Saint
Nicholas,
church
Outreach
I
just
say
a
few
words
because
either
covered
all
the
bases.
First
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
commission
for
the
initiative
they
taking
and
second
turbo.
AG
X
K
M
K
X
Did
earlier,
but
okay
Frank
Perry,
1676
sea
breeze
and
it
got
violent,
throwing
Furniture
in
the
patio
outside
Panera's,
throwing
it
all
over
the
place,
they
would
sleep
in
the
booths.
They
try
to
get
them
back
ones
where
they
won't
be
seen
by
the
help
manager.
The
lady
went
up
to
tell
one
of
them.
You
can't
sleep
here
like
that,
and
he
got
got
in
her
face.
X
She
didn't
call
the
police
I,
don't
know
why,
but
she
called
her
dad
and
then
those
two
were
going
at
it.
I
broke
that
up.
I'm,
a
retired
cop
I
just
got
tired
of
seeing
what
I
was
seeing
there.
This
happened
a
lot
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
comments.
People
saying
you
know:
I
don't
enjoy
this
place
anymore
than
I
saw
last
week.
It
was
on
the
news
at
16
7-Elevens
and
closed,
because
homeless
had
made
basically
taken
them
over.
They
find
a
cup
and
they
go
in
and
get
the
free
drinks.
X
You
know
there
was
a
guy
who's
doing
it
there
all
day
long.
Maybe
these
folks
know
there
was
one
carrying
a
big
stick
with
them,
letting
it
drag
on
the
ground
behind
them,
and
people
thought
what
the
heck's
this
guy
going
to
do.
With
this
thing,
it
was
intimidating
the
customers-
it's
not
all
Lollipops
and
Roses
this
business.
It
attracts
a
lot
of
people
that
just
don't
have
good
intentions.
AH
AH
I
All
very
Noble,
however,
that's
the
front
face.
What's
the
back
face,
if
you
read
the
backup
and
as
the
mayor
mentioned-
trying
to
combine
The
Fill
site
with
this
project,
so
they
can
maybe
get
some
economic
Synergy.
You
know
where
the
fill
site
is
I
asked
them.
You
can
have
somebody
testify
here,
it's
where
they're
dumping,
the
fill
on
the
north
side
of
the
water
treatment
plant
about
a
mile
and
a
half
up,
Anclote
Road,
where
now
there's
a
stop
sign
there,
where
the
fire
station
is
so
you
want
to
talk
about
helping
people
there.
I
I
So
you
want
to
save
some
money
and
I
know.
A
lot
of
people
see
me
as
an
environmentalist
but
I'm
technically
voluntary
inactive,
real
estate
sales
person
every
two
years,
I
take
my
up
my
CEUs
to
keep
qualifying
and
it's
all
about
location
and
what's
the
advantages
of
that
location,
one
you've
got
plenty
of
employment
around
there
plenty
places
that
are
looking
for
work,
people
to
work,
Hardee's,
McDonald's,
Chili's,
Walmart,
Big,
Lots,
Staples,
Dollar,
Store,
you
go
walk
by.
They
all
got
hiring,
there's
your
jobs.
I
I
You
got
to
look
at
your
full
options
before
you
commit
to
trying
to
spend
money
for
a
real
estate
agent
to
go.
Look
for
property
when
you
got
one
right
in
front
of
you
now
I've
spoken
with
Pastor
Kurt
I
I
spoke
with
him
last
night.
He
gave
him
the
information,
maybe
he
might
zoom
in
so
I
can't
say
for
sure
he
had
another
meeting.
I
So
I
don't
know
I
can't
commit.
He
would
have
to
take
it
to
his
board.
Their
board
has
to
make
their
decision
as
these
boards
have
to
make
their
decisions,
but
I'm
sure
some
leasing
Arrangement
can
be
arranged
because
here's
another
cue
about
something
else
about
city
property,
Savannah,
Cove
out
on
Curlew
place
that
55
or
over
they
got
tax
credits,
at
least
that
Land
from
the
city.
I
A
AI
Good
evening,
BJ,
wolf,
412,
Denise,
Street,
Tarpon,
Springs
I'm,
just
actually
just
going
to
comment
just
in
what
we've
seen
my
wife
and
I.
Since
we
opened
our
shop
about
18
months
ago.
In
the
you
know,
very
you
know
we.
We
understand
the
need
to
help
people.
What
what
we're
seeing
is
a
is
a
is
a
severe
increase
like
especially
we're
up
until
eight
or
nine
o'clock
every
single
night
and
there's
customers
that
tell
us
every
single
day
they
won't
even
walk
down.
AI
Lemon
Street
from
you
know,
once
dark
hits
lemon
between
Safford
and
ALT
19..
It's
only
a
couple
blocks,
but
it's
not
lit
up
like
the
rest
of
everything,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
the
the
homeless
that
do
come
into
our
shop
they
they've
stolen
from
us.
We
see
them
shoplifting.
You
know
we
try
not
to
create
an
issue.
We
know
several
that
that
do
have
the
mental
incapacity
we've
run
into
a
lot
of
that.
Where
we've
had
to
you
know,
you
know,
trespass,
some
of
them
say
you're
not
allowed
in
anymore.
AI
AI
This
is
a
lot
different
than
I
thought,
so
I
just
I'm
concerned,
because
we've
seen
a
tremendous
increase
just
in
the
year
and
a
half
that
we've
been
there
and
I'm
afraid
that
this
is
just
gonna
it'll
be
an
epicenter
where
it's
just
going
to
draw
more
and
more
regardless
of
the
location,
and
it's
just
going
to
be
a
a
bigger
problem
that
that
we
have
to
deal
with
and
we're.
You
know
we're
doing
tremendous
things
on
on
tarponav
there
to
try
to
revitalize
this
city
and
and
that
this
is
a
detriment
to
that.
A
Okay:
let's
go
to
the
commission
vice
mayor
London:
do
you
have
any
questions
or
comments.
K
Yeah
I
have
some
comments.
Everybody
knows
that
we
have
a
homeless
problem
which
is
being
exacerbated
monthly.
It's
getting
worse,
it's
not
getting
better,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
I
agree
with
the
mayor
as
far
as
property
of
trying
to
look
for
economies
of
scale
with
some
place
to
move,
you
know
parts
of
the
shepherd
center
in
the
Hope
Center
and
a
disposal.
K
My
apologies,
one
of
the
other
things
to
say
that
I
do
agree
with
Mr
delacas
that
that,
if
this
goes
forward
wherever
it
goes
forward,
we
need
to
be
in
a
position
with
the
homeless,
where
they
do
have
transportation
the
ability
to
get
employed.
Having
said
that,
I
did
some
pretty
broad
research
around
the
country
as
far
as
what
people
are
doing
at
the
homeless.
This
is
not
a
Tarpon
Springs
issue.
K
This
is
a
an
urban
issue
within
the
United
States
I,
pretty
much
come
down
on
the
side
that
temporary
shelters
for
the
homeless
really
don't
do
anything
for
the
homeless,
except
give
them
temporary
shelter.
It
doesn't
solve
the
homeless
problem.
It
just
sort
of
puts
it
off
for
a
little
while
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
community
is
look
at
housing
for
the
homeless,
affordable
housing
for
the
homeless,
or
you
know,
Section
8
grants
for
the
homeless
or
whatever
we
can
do
to
house
them.
K
You've
got
to
get
rid
of
if
a
man
is
drowning
telling
them
he
needs
how
to
swim
is
not
a
good
thing.
You
need
to
pull
them
to
land
and
that's
when
we
need
to
do
with
homeless
people.
We
need
to
find
some
place
to
house
them
permanently,
so
they
can
get
back
on
their
feet,
so
they
can
get
some
self-respect
back
so
that
they
can
start
to
live
a
more
productive
and
and
and
and
whatever
Community
acceptable
life.
K
Having
said
that,
I
do
agree
that
we
should
be
looking
at
other
options
for
property
I'm,
not
quite
sure
if
anybody
has
talked
to
the
people
that
own
the
hail
Center
up
on
Alternate
19..
That
Center
has
been
somewhat
not
used
for
for
a
considerable
amount
of
time
and
would
fit
very
nicely
into
doing
this.
It's
run
by
a
by
another
Faith
World
Inc.
So
it's
run
by
another
religious
organization,
I'm,
not
sure
how
they
would
feel
about
being
adopted
even
without
the
particular
Center.
K
They
have
quite
a
bit
of
land
up
there.
It's
just
I
think
pretty
what
you're
all
for
familiar
with,
where
that
is
so
I
I
want
to
say
that
I'm,
supportive
of
of
moving
certain
facilities
away
from
the
downtown
and
Tarpon
Springs,
because
I
think
they
in
fact
I
know
they
are
becoming
a
definite
problem.
I've
had
to
deal
with
it
myself,
directly,
lady,
more
more
than
once
or
twice
I
did
want
to
get
out
there,
though,
that
we
need
to
go
further
than
just
operate.
You
know
giving
them
temporary
shelter.
K
I'm
surprised
that
the
Housing
Authority
is
in
here
tonight.
We
need
to
work
with
all
our
Resources
with
all
our
community
agencies
to
make
sure
these
people
get
housed,
not
sheltered,
but
housed
shelters
only
work
as
a
temporary
solution
and
they're
always
problematic
anyway.
That's
that's
pretty
much.
All
I
got
to
say
thanks,
commissioner.
O
AB
Thanks
mayor
in
this
aspect,
everything's
going
along
with
the
shepherd
center
I
think
it
needs
to
be
separated
between
the
separate
the
shepherd
center
and
the
dredging
project.
Looking
at
Lots
North
of
the
river
as
well
too,
there's
not
many
that
are
10,
acres
plus
or
not
doesn't
mean
that
the
city
can't
come
to
a
resolution
to
find
one
but
I
don't
think
they
should
be
correlated
together.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
it's
best
to
separate.
The
two
are
both
needed.
Yes,
I,
agree,
I
also,
wouldn't
I
also
would
like
to
see.
AB
Is
there
an
option
for
the
city
to
do
a
long-term
lease
of
a
building
instead
of
buying
a
piece
of
property?
Maybe
it's
on
US
19
closer
to
Klosterman.
Maybe
it's
on
US
19,
closer
to
the
holiday
line.
I,
don't
know
where
that
would
be,
but
there's
other
there's
other
avenues
going
about
this.
Instead
of
just
going
down
one
Avenue
and
trying
to
say,
let's
find
a
10
acre
piece
of
land
for
this,
so
I'm
a
supportive
finding
a
piece
of
property.
AB
What
I
would
like
to
see,
though,
is
that
the
city
would
work
with
the
tenant
to
make
sure
the
tenant
would
be
responsible
for
all
maintenance
of
the
property
that
the
city
would
lease
it
for
a
dollar,
but
they
wouldn't
be
responsible
for
the
maintenance,
but
with
that
going
back
around
just
summarizing
it
I
don't
think
it
should
be
just
limited
to
a
piece
of
raw
property.
AB
I
think
it
should
be
looking
at
buildings
that
are
there
also
or
another
some
something
creative,
just
don't
tell
a
real
estate
agent
go
look
for
this
look
for
an
option
to
fit
this
project,
but
don't
look
for
just
only
five
acres,
10
acres
or
something
along
those
lines.
Yeah.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
M
You
mayor
I,
don't
particularly
want
to
put
any
restriction
on
a
real
estate
person
I
want
to
let
them
let
them
know
the
criteria
of
what
we
need
and
let
them
find
that
particular
property
if
it,
if
they're
able
to
find
a
particular
property
that
can
handle
the
both
the
the
spoil
Center
spoil
and
the
center
for
relocation,
so
be
it
if
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
lean
towards
that.
M
I
would
like
it
to
be
separate,
but
if
that's
available,
that's
the
route
I,
would
you
know
we
could
discuss
it
at
that
point
at
that
time
as
far
as
moving
the
homeless
out
of
the
area
as
much
as
I
am
like
you,
I
am
Ada
I
I
feel
for
the
people
and
I,
don't
always
know
what's
best
for
them
as
we
all
do,
but
the
baby
step
that
we
need
to
take
is
to
First
find
them
shelter
and
food.
M
I
agree
with
vice
mayor
that
we
do.
There
is
an
end
game
to
trying
to
teach
them
profession.
Look
we'd
like
to
get
them
married
and
have
kids,
but
you
know
you
do
have
to
take
baby
steps
along
the
way,
and
the
first
thing
is:
there
is
many
issues
many
calls
we
all
get
them
for
issues
that
are
going
on
in
town
that
doesn't
help
anybody.
It
doesn't
help
the
police,
it
doesn't
help
them,
they
get
themselves
in
trouble.
The
businesses
suffer
so
primarily.
M
You've
also
admitted
that
you
feed
too
many
people
you've.
It's
it's
you've
outgrown
that
facility
to
feed
people,
there's
no
parking
there,
so
primarily
it
would
be.
It
would
be
hoove
us
to
get
a
location
outside
the
area.
I'm,
not
I,
hate,
saying
things
like
we're,
moving
them
to
Pasco
or
that's
that's,
not
the
answer,
but
I
would
presume
that
the
land
is
cheaper
there
than
if
you're
putting
it
the
land
to
try
to
purchase
in
the
middle
of
Tarpon
Avenue.
M
So
wherever
we
can
find
a
location,
that's
best
suited
for
you,
that's
large
enough
to
facilitate
a
new
feeding
and
and
a
place
for
overnight.
Look
many
of
them
don't
want
to
be
in
an
overnight.
You
know
this.
They
prefer
to
be
free
and
in
the
streets
on
the
nights
that
it's
frigid
cold
and
you
know
which
we
don't.
Luckily
we
don't
have
many.
M
There
needs
to
be
a
cold
shelter.
Nobody
wants
to
have
people
freeze
on
the
street,
so
I'm
all
for
moving
ahead
with
whatever
is
feasible
to
to
to
get
them
an
overnight
shelter
get
them
food
if
it's
a
facility
that
does
have
both
with
the
spoil
site
I'm
good
with
it,
but
we
could
cross
that
bridge
when
we
get
a
list
of
things
that
are
before
us,
I'm
just
happy
to
move
forward
with
it.
P
No
solution
is
going
to
make
everyone
happy
and
I.
I
would
ask
this
commission
I
know
vice
mayor
brought
up,
we
do
have
Robin
Red
part
of
our
Coalition
for
the
homeless,
Alliance
and
she's
part
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Housing
Authority.
If
anybody
can
try
to
reach
out
to
her,
she
can
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
that
come
across
this
topic
and
I'm
also
I'm
all
for
supporting
a
a
relocation
of
food
distribution
and
services.
P
We
know
people
are
coming
from
Pasco
down
into
downtown
to
be
fed
as
well.
So
my
main
goal
is
to
take
care
of
the
homeless,
but
also
help
stem
and
drive
Economic
Opportunity
in
Tarpon
Springs,
that's
one
of
the
biggest
ones
for
myself
as
well,
and
there
is
a
program
and
I've
talked
with
Miss,
delgeice
and
I
do
want
to
move
forward
with
supporting
this,
this
issue
and
final
realtor
to
try
to
find
a
property.
But
there
is
this
program
that
happens
every
year
with
the
homeless
leadership
Network
in
Pinellas
County.
P
It's
called
the
it's
an
acronym
nofo
nofo,
and
these
this
program
gives
out
about
15
million
dollars
a
year
and
they
will
help
give
grant
money
of
big
portions
I
was
just
pulling
it
up:
two
million
3
million
for
potential
properties
to
be
purchased
for
in
the
event
of
building
a
shelter,
but
I
would
like
to
get
either
Mr
scalini
or
Mr
Geist.
To
make
a
commitment
to
us
in
the
city
to
have
a
representative
and
I
know
it's
uphill
battle
and
those
HOA
boards.
You
know
I
feel
like
they
only
think
about
yeah.
P
That
I
think
everything
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
can
help
that
we
can
help
get
and
I'm
all
for,
and
we
talked
about.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
in
this
agreement
that
all
food
and
services
would
be
relocated
and
it
would
just
remain
a
thrift
store.
As
we
talked
about
and
I
think
this
is
an
investment
for
our
town.
This
isn't
a
handout.
P
This
is
an
investment
that
helps
downtown
I,
think
long
term,
and
it
could
help
clear
up
many
of
the
concerns
that
residents
have
business
owners
have,
and
you
know
we
heard
a
couple
comments
about
a
property
behind
Publix
and
it's
a
good
idea.
But
we've
also
heard
some
from
some
residents
that
it's,
the
small
few
that
ruin
it
for
others
when
going
into
those
plazas
and
you
know,
get
involved
with
people
who
are
just
trying
to
do
their
everyday
lives.
P
So
I
I
would
I
really
want
The
Best
of
Both
Worlds
I
do
want
a
location,
that's
on
the
outskirts,
a
little
bit
of
town
being
able
to
get
them
to
come
to
work
and
go
back
to
work.
P
That's
a
whole
other
scenario,
but
a
goal
for
myself
and
I
think
this
commission
would
be
to
help
keep
the
services
going
with
ants,
give
a
reason
or
opportunity
to
spike
or
to
spark
Economic,
Development
and
interests
with
investment
and
I'm,
not
sure
those
two
are
necessarily
correlated,
but
I
think
it
could
help
be
a
two
for
one
for
us
and
looking
out
for
the
community.
Thank
you.
Okay.
K
I'm
I'm
sorry
I
I've
neglected
to
mention
this
before
I
also
went
to
the
the
U.S
interagency
Council
on
homeless
website,
and
did
some
research
I'm
not
sure.
If
you're
aware
of
this,
you
probably
are,
but
they
set
aside
10
billion
dollars
to
help
the
homeless
within
the
arpa
funds.
These
funds
are
currently
available,
they're
being
granted
to
how
do
I
say
this
organizations,
communities
and
and
cities
that
are
following
particular
Community
guidelines
and
programs
and
so
forth.
K
There
is
a
relatively
thick
document
on
what
can
be
done
in
this
particular
manner.
That
will
allow
you
to
get
grant
money.
Is
you
know,
setting
specific
Community
goals
and
creating
Partnerships
and
so
forth?
K
However,
their
housing
more
America
plan
has
been
put
into
pretty
effective
use
in
places
like
Houston
and
places
like
Austin
already
we're
starting
to
see
some
results
in
San
Diego
I
mean
I
know
these
are
larger
cities
than
ours,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
mean
that
smaller
communities
are
left
out
in
this,
so
there's
other
monies
and
grant
opportunities
there
that
that
should
be
followed
up
upon.
If.
K
M
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base
with
one
thing,
because
I
know
you
spoke
about
just
keeping
it
to
Palm
Harbor
and
Tarpon
Springs,
but
just
when
you,
when
this
does
move
forward,
I
would
love
for
you
to
have
some
sort
of
a
system
in
place
for
people
that
are
just
in
need
of
food
to
have
maybe
a
band
or
a
little
badge
so
that
you
know
who
is
entitled
to
that
food
and
and
just
so
that
it
doesn't
get
out
of
hand,
because
you
could
outgrow
the
place
in
a
blink
of
an
eye
when
the
word
gets
out
there
and
if
you
have
some
sort
of
I'm
not
looking
to
stop
people.
M
A
Okay,
Miss
delgeist.
Would
you
answer
one
question
for
me
if
you
could
come
up.
AD
A
AD
A
A
This
is
a
partnership
between
us
and
the
shepherd
center
I'm
sure
they
would
tell
us
to
go
fly
a
kite
if
we
start
dictating
terms
as
far
as
what
they
do.
I
know:
we've
had
discussions,
not
necessarily
with
feeding
people,
but
what
happens
off
campus
and
that's
the
the
job
that
Chief
young
has
had
to
deal
with
in
the
city
manager.
For
me,
it's
more
of
a
facilitator.
What
can
we
do
to
improve
that
situation?
A
The
idea
behind
the
disposal,
Pond
and
providing
a
location
within
that
area
for
a
facility
was
really
time
to
the
location
of
the
current
site,
which
actually
is
very
near
the
Pinellas
Trail.
Unfortunately,
that's
unaffordable
at
this
point,
but
the
idea
behind
is
it's
not
an
economy
of
scale?
It's
it's
an
issue
of
a
NIMBY,
not
in
my
backyard,
wherever
you
relocate
anything
like
this.
A
There's
going
to
be
issues,
there's
going
to
be
people
coming
forward
and
they
have
the
right
to
come
forward
and
what
you
need
to
do
is
make
them
comfortable,
there's
a
big
difference
between
buying
a
parcel
of
10
acres
and
and
carving
out
a
little
one
acre
site
or
less
within
that
10
acres
that
that
10
acres
forms
a
buffer
around
that
one
acre
facility.
It's
a
lot
different
than
going
out
and
buying
a
piece
of
property
and
then
an
acre
or
less,
and
then
all
the
surrounding
properties
are
privately
owned.
A
So
that's
one
objective
behind
that
is
to
provide
some
peace
of
mind
to
the
shepherd
center
and
to
the
surrounding
area
where
they
would
be
located.
I,
don't
know
whether
we're
going
to
find
anything,
but
until
we
look
we're
not
going
to
know
and
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
anything
that
anybody
has
said
tonight
regarding
the
homeless,
their
issues,
what
they
what
their
needs
are.
A
You
know
you
know
the
the,
but
those
sort
of
things
are
I.
Think
somebody
used
the
word
the
end
game
tonight
and
we're
not
at
the
end
game
we're
not
going
to
solve
the
the
homeless
problem
in
Tarpon
Springs.
A
This
is
just
a
step
in
a
in
in
addressing
that
issue
in
managing
the
situation,
a
lot
better
than
what
we're
doing
right
now
and
the
fact
that
we've
outgrown
we
in
the
sense
that
the
community
has
outgrown
in
because
of
the
support
and
everything
that
goes
on
at
the
shepherd
center
and
also
our
Police
Department,
for
my
interest
to
City
manager's
interest
is
what
the
police
department
has
to
do
to
manage
the
issues
that
occur
not
as
part
of
feeding
people,
but
once
that
activity
ceases
it
these
people
go
elsewhere,
so
their
beginning
to
consume
a
lot
of
time,
managing
that
situation
when
they
should
be
providing
services
to
our
public
for
a
variety
of
other
things.
A
So
that's
my
interest
in
in
this,
and
this
is
just
a
step
I'm,
not
sure
how
long
it's
going
to
take
I
know.
We
talked
about
Consultants
real
estate
Consultants,
but
the
last
thing
I
want
to
mention
identifying
a
location
for
a
disposal.
Pond
is
not
just
setting
it
up,
buying
a
location
and
and
setting
it
up.
A
There
needs
to
be
a
path
from
the
river
to
that
location
for
an
effluent
line,
and
there
needs
to
be
a
location
for
a
path
for
that
water
to
get
out
of
the
disposal
site
and
back
into
the
river.
That's
there's
some
basic
fundamental
requirements
that
are
needed
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
dictated
To
Us
by
the
Army
Corps,
and
also
the
Regulatory
Agencies,
the
environmental
agencies
in
in
Florida.
A
So
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
just
buying
property
and
somewhere
that's
cheap
or
something
and
and
giving
a
little
parcel
to
the
shepherd
center
for
their
needs
and
as
as
far
as
that
goes
whatever
we
find,
may
not
be
satisfactory
to
the
shepherd
center.
But
we're
not
going
to
know
until
we
get
to
that
point.
So
it's
just
a
Cooperative
effort
at
this
point.
It's
to
get
the
ball
moving
to
allow
the
shepherd
center
to
begin.
A
Raising
an
awareness
of
what
their
plans
are
begin
fundraising
and
then,
for
our
part,
is
really
for
me
is
to
ensure
the
future
of
our
federal
Channel.
I,
you
know
we
need
a
disposal
pawn
it
that
land
isn't
going
to
be
available
unless
we
bought
it
as
a
proponent
of
buying
it
a
long
time
ago
when
that
site
that
we're
using
right
now
was
affordable,
it's
completely
unaffordable
right
now.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
say
about
that.
Commissioner
card,
you
have
another
comment.
Yeah.
AB
I
just
had
a
question
so
if
we
give
the
city
manager
Direction
tonight
to
seek
the
services
of
real
estate
consultant
when
that
come
back
before
the
board,
typically
real
estate,
I,
don't
know
the
government's
very
strange
in
procurement,
so
typically
real
estate.
The
realtor
is
paid
when
the.
AB
D
Well,
I
would
work
with
procurement.
There's
there's
there's
ways:
we've
done
it
in
the
past,
in
essence,
is
almost
like
putting
out
a
bid
and
seeing
what
we
can
get
for.
So
that's
enough
to
work
with
Janine
on
and
you
know
figure
out
what
that
Arrangement
is,
and
you
know
yeah.
If
it
goes
out
to
bidding
stuff,
then
it
would
come
back.
AJ
R
D
Be
a
bunch
of
different
things
that
we
go
ask
for
a
bit
of
the
best
deal.
Sorry,
it
could
just
be
a
flat
fee
to
help
us,
but
we
have
to
examine
that
and
look
at
it
again.
We
did
it
before
when
we
were
dealing
with
selling
of
a
group
of
City
properties.
We
we
did
that
I,
don't
know
we'll
go
back
and
look
at
that
one.
It
wasn't
exactly
the
same
thing
but
I
think
there's
a
model
there.
D
A
You're,
okay,
vice
mayor
lot,
you've.
K
Got
I'm
sorry,
but,
to
my
recollection,
had
we
already
given
the
city
manager,
instructions
to
go
out
and
look
for
a
disposal
site?
Was
that
not
something
that
we'd
already
done?
Do
we
have
to
give
that
permission
again,
or
is
this
additional
permission
for.
A
D
A
D
D
Need
for
some
help,
you
know
I've
done
a
pretty
good
job
before,
but
that's
not
my
forte.
So
that's
why
it's
you
know
in
this
real
estate
thing
looking
for
the
contract,
we
might
do
if
there's
a
real
estate
consultant.
That
does
something
of
that.
D
I
thought
just
made
me
a
little
help
with
this,
with
this
added
on
even
the
complexities
that
we're
there's.
Obviously,
you
can
look
at
a
map
and
see
some
properties
that
might
be
available,
but
you
know
there
may
be
some
abilities,
a
real
estate
person-
some
maybe
not
available
now-
to
talk
with
some
people
and
assist
and
make
them
available.
So
it's
just
having
that
consultant
helps.
A
A
Trying
to
kill
these
green
lights
Vice,
commissioner
Eisner
I.
H
P
I,
just
one
one
last
comment
and
if
I
can,
while
this
is
all
getting
worked
out,
if
we
could
get
a
commitment
from
Miss,
delgice
or
miscalini
to
have
someone
from
the
shepherd
center
start
looking
into
the
homeless
leadership
Alliance
and
the
the
no
fro
programs,
that's
coming
out
again
this
year
and
I,
think
it's
something
that's
right
down
our
alley
and
what
we're
looking
for
for
some
additional
funding.
AB
A
A
second
mayor.
O
Okay,
make.
A
H
AB
O
K
That
was
the
second
for
me,
but
are
you
looking
for
a
consensus
on
giving
them
a
a
30-year
lease
with
the
one
dollar
a
year,
you're
tying
it
to
this
whole
letter.
Now,
no.
A
What
we're
talking
about
is
the
the
reason
you
have
emotion.
Is
that
correct,
commissioner
Carr
all
right,
you
have
a
second
right.
Okay,
let's
discuss
it
for
a
second
I
I.
Think
that
the
what
the
issue
is
going
to
be
is
a
30-year
lease
and
a
dollar
a
year,
but
that
would
have
to
go
to
referendum
in
addition
to
the
purchase
of
the
property.
If
it's
combined
together
with
this
larger
parcel,
that's
going
to
exceed
350
000,
so
both
of
those
require
referendum.
A
The
the
only
question
I
have
is
whether
that
is
going
to
give
the
shepherd
center
sufficient
assurance
that
we
are
going
to
attempt
to
provide.
You
know,
identify
a
parcel
that
would
satisfy
both
objectives.
One
would
be
for
the
disposal
Pond
site
and
the
other
would
be
for
the
project
Refuge
aspect
of
it.
If,
if
what
I'm
hearing
from-
and
you
may
have
to
repeat
that,
for
me,
one
of
your
options
was
not
to
us
to
purchase
property
for
project
Refuge,
it
was
strictly
or
was
I
wrong.
Did
I
hear
you
wrong.
AB
A
AA
A
A
K
M
AK
AL
AB
A
But
there
will
be
questions
and
answers,
and
this
evening
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
want
to
introduce
everybody.
We've
got
Miss
macris
Fosse
here
is,
is
here
right
there
from
cohatch
we've
got
Mr
Chris,
Watkins
who's,
a
principal
in
that
and
also
Ms
Rosenbaum
Lauren
Rosenbaum
who's.
The
attorney
for
cohatches
here
as
well,
and
we've
got
Ms
Vincent
who's,
our
planning
director
here
as
well.
A
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
that's
what
I'm
going
to
say
at
this
point
I'm
going
to
ask
also
the
City
attorney,
because
he's
the
one
who
kind
of
orchestrated
getting
this
agenda
item
on
tonight
for
the
approach
that
we're
going
to
take
so
Mr
Salzman.
If
you
could
kind
of
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
what
where
we
are,
what
we
have
to
do
in
this
matter.
Z
Yes
mayor,
so,
according
to
your
ordinances
218,
you
have
a
procedure
for
re-hearings.
In
this
particular
case,
the
request
was
timely,
made
for
you
to
rehear
this
matter
before
you
reconsider
one
of
your
decisions,
the
board,
after
considering
additional
evidence
or
argument
presented
by
the
person
making.
The
request
for
the
re-hearing
must
make
a
finding
that
evidence
not
previously
considered
or
a
factual
mistake
related
to
the
evidence
considered
exists.
Z
The
requester
we
hear
shall
be
authorized
only
upon
a
motion
of
a
member
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
who
voted
on
the
prevailing
side
in
the
original
Board
of
Commissioners
action
and
upon
an
affirmative
vote
of
a
majority
of
those
present
and
voting.
If
an
affirmative
vote
occurs,
granting
the
requester
we
hear
the
application
shall
be
scheduled
upon
due
public
notice
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
said
application.
So
you
would
have
another
hearing
if
you
decide
to
entertain
and
vote
for
the
re-hearing.
A
Okay,
so
in
in
summary,
after
we
hear
everybody,
then
there
would
be
a
motion
if
one
is
made
to
re-hear
and
then
there
would
have
to
be
a
second
to
that.
And
then
there
would
be
have
to
be
a
vote
and
there
would
have
to
be
a
majority
vote
on
the
commission
to
send
that
back
for
reconsideration.
That.
A
Further
to
be
done
all
right,
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
Miss
macris,
Miss
Fosse,
if
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
kind
of
state
your
case
and
then
we'll
go
from
there
and
what
I'm
hoping
to
find
out
is
I
understand
this
matter.
The
subject
is
cohatched,
but
I'm
also
interested
in
finding
out
some
of
the
underlying
issues
concerning
this
matter
as
well.
That's
my
goal
in
all
of
this,
so
please
go
ahead.
Okay,.
AM
My
name
is
the
Molina
makers:
Folk
s
I
own
Ambiance,
hair
salon.
It's
one.
AM
Because
Provisions
have
not
been
made,
nobody
has
said
anything
in
particular
when
it
comes
to
the
parking
and
that's
why
I
had
the
petition
signed
and
I
got
enough
tarponites
to
say
to
sign
this
position
petition
and
come
forward.
So
as
far
as
the
flawed
parking
analysis
I'm
still
concerned
about
the
word
of
mouth
parking
that
to
me
is
alarming:
handicap
parking,
I
have
handicapped
clients,
I
have
elderly
clients
and,
as
far
as
the
the
map
goes
of
the
parking
within
the
community,
that's
almost
not
doable
for
those
type
of
clients
that
I
have.
AM
If
you're
walking
in
your
certain
age,
you
can
make
it,
but
if
you're
an
if
you
are
in
a
wheelchair
or
crutches
or
whatever
the
situation
may
be,
that's
not
helpful
as
far
as
that
goes,
the
smart
code
ignored.
So
what
my
understanding
like
again
I'm,
not
against
cohatch
coming
in
I,
think
business
is
going
to
be
good
as
far
as
bring
I'm
against
if
they're
going
to
be
able
to
extend
that
and
be
able
to
go
through
the
smart
code
and
the
smart
code
ignored
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
AM
So
if
I
were
to
hypothetically
purchase
a
building
here
in
town
and
I,
make
it
twice
the
size
at
its
current
size,
do
I
have
to
provide
parking
or
is
that
just
on
Tarpon
Avenue
like
these
are
questions
and
concerns
that
I
have
as
a
business
owner
of
23
years
here
in
this
community,
which
I've
seen
Tarpon
grow
we're
growing
so
fast,
it's
beautiful,
but
the
community
itself,
the
area,
the
the
parking
and
all
that
stuff.
As
far
as
the
city
goes,
that's
not
growing.
AM
The
community's
growing
the
businesses
are
growing,
but
we're
also
suffering
at
the
same
time.
That
is
my
main
major
concern.
As
a
business
owner
here
in
town
I've
seen
the
changes,
they've
been
great,
they've
been
positive,
but
take
us
into
consideration
too,
because
we
were
the
heart
of
Turpin
I've
been
part
of
that
heart
for
23
years
on
Tarpon
Avenue,
so
I
think
you
know
my
concerns
are
just
as
valid
as
anybody
else's.
It's
great
for
retail.
It's
great
for
this.
It's
great
for
that
I
own,
a
hair
salon.
We
run
on
time
frames.
AM
We
run
on
time
schedules
I
had
to
give
up
an
entire
wedding
party
and
I
had
to
give
back
deposits,
because
Provisions
were
never
made
for
a
street
closure,
so
I'm
just
looking
at
it
from
a
big
point
of
view,
with
street
closures,
adding
in
all
of
that
on
top
of
not
having
the
the
enough
I'm
sorry
enough
parking.
What
is
my
business
going
to
do
that
has
been
here
this
long?
AM
You
know
we
all
I,
my
my
clients,
I,
have
nine
employees.
We
have
a
huge
clientele.
We
bring
a
lot
of
walk
through
traffic
for
the
surrounding
businesses
as
well,
so
I
mean
that's
something
to
take
into
consideration
as
far
as
that
goes,
I
didn't
Forge
anybody's
signature
on
the
petition
like
it
was
stated
before.
Thank
you
moving
forward,
I'm
done.
Those
are
my
concerns
and
hopefully
we
can
resolve
something
today.
Thank.
A
AM
Parking's
the
biggest
issue
right
now,
that's
been
an
issue
for
quite
some
time
that
has
been
major.
It's
Hit
me
hard
more
so
the
last
two
three
years
and
the
more
that
their
street
closures
on
top
of
the
parking
issue
just
makes
it
a
bigger
issue.
For
me
and
for
my
my
employees,
I
mean
I
have
a
thriving
business.
That
is
my
major
situation
that
I'm
looking
at
and
as
far
as
the
the
cohatch
going
in
my
biggest
concern,
is
it's
going
to
be
eight
to
ten
months
of
construction?
AM
AM
I
definitely
believe
so,
I
mean
everybody
wants
to
be
like
Danita
and
Dunedin
got
parking.
Garages
didn't
even
got
parking,
that's
what
makes
them
better
than
Tarpon
right
now,
I
mean
that's
and
I
see
thriving
businesses
down
there.
We
were
just
there
over
the
weekend
on
Saturday.
It
was
great,
it
was
beautiful.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
that
ours
is
growing,
so
fast,
nothing
is
happening.
Nothing
is
helping
to
accommodate
that
growth.
Do.
AM
Be
honest
with
you:
I've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
business
owners
about
this,
and
it's
been
a
very,
very
big
concern
being
that
there
are
more
businesses
coming
in.
It's
been
a
much
bigger
concern.
Some
some
businesses
turn
turn
their
heads.
Don't
want
to
talk
about
it
publicly,
but,
as
everybody
knows,
I'm
being
public
about
it.
A
Don't
don't
leave
yeah,
you
see
if
anybody
else
has
got
questions,
commissioner
Eisner.
M
Thank
you
for
coming
up.
It
does
take
guts
to
come
up
and
say
your
mind.
I
do
want
to
let
the
board
know
you
and
I
spoke
for
quite
some
time
and
I.
Thank
you
for
saying
that
so
you're
really
not
against
coax.
You
just
need
parking,
which
is
what
I
I
spoke
to
you
about,
which
is
one
of
my
particular
goals
and
I
also
think
it's
the
particular
goal
of
this
board
to
get
to
grow
with
the
town.
M
So
I
do
want
you
to
know
that
it
will
happen
as
soon
as
it
possibly
can.
The
other
part
that
I
need
you
to
be
a
little
bit
con.
M
You
know
also
Kinder
about
is
and
I
don't
wish
this
on
anybody,
but
if
it
was
your
business
or
any
other
business
in
Tarpon
that
were
to
have
a
mishap,
a
fire,
a
flood
or
something
they
would
need
to
come
in
with
contractors
and
do
work
to
it
and
we
couldn't
sit
there
and
say
well,
you
can't
really
rebuild
because
you
just
have
to
find
somewhere
for
these
contractors
to
park.
Any
time
you
have
a
situation
of
of
Construction
Tarpon
Avenue
right
now
is
under
construction.
M
The
bus
stops
over
there
in
a
one
lane
going
east
and
I
sit
behind
him,
just
waiting
for
everybody
to
get
on
and
off
the
bus.
I,
don't
know,
what's
going
to
be
down
the
road,
but
you
have
to
have
a
little
bit
of
care
and
concern
that
somebody
else
is
eventually
going
to
be
done,
and
hopefully
they
would
be
kind
enough
to
keep
their
vehicles
their
construction
vehicles
not
right
there.
So
I'm
with
you
and
we'll
try
to
do
whatever
we
can
and
say
what
you're
going
to
say.
I.
AM
Totally
get
where
you're
coming
from,
but
in
the
past,
when
there
was
an
issue
for
parking
and
Provisions
were
supposed
to
be
made,
let's
say,
for
example,
a
first
Friday
there
was
years
ago
we're
talking.
This
has
been
going
on
for
years.
For
me,
Provisions
were
never
made
years
ago.
They
haven't
been
made
now
I'm,
not
against
cohatch,
going
in
I'm
against
cohatch's
size.
That's
going
to
go
in
because
they're
still
not
going
to
be,
even
if
you
put
20
parking
spots
out
there,
it's
not
going
to
be
enough.
AM
It's
the
size
of
the
the
facility
going
in
I
mean
it's
going
into
one
of
the
oldest
buildings
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
that
survived
the
fire
on
the
Square.
Was
it
1902
and
all
that's
going
to
be
changed
so
I
get
that
people
are
changing.
Businesses
are
growing,
I
get
it,
but
20
spots
aren't
going
to
do
it.
A
lot
that
doesn't
have
a
lease
in
its
word
of
mouth
isn't
going
to
do
it?
It's
not
going
to
do
it
for
my
clients
that
are
not
local
here
from
this
community.
AM
They
don't
know
where
to
park
and
by
the
time
I
explain
them.
They've
already
they're
gone
so
I
don't
want
to
see
my
business
of
23
years
go
down.
The
drain
I've
been
a
member
of
this
community.
I
have
been
on
Tarpon
Avenue
and
the
reason
why
my
voice
is
being
heard
more
now
is
because
I
have
more
time
on
my
hands.
So
therefore
I'm
going
to
utilize
my
time
wisely.
P
I
just
wanted
to
touch
up,
and
we
know
what
a
one
of
the
portions
for
the
reconsiderations
the
parking.
But
can
you
go
and
just
briefly
read
over
a
couple
of
the
topics
that
you're
you're
reconsideration,
States
and
just
briefly
go
over
them,
because
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
just
the
parking
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
and
any
all
new
evidence,
if
there
is
any,
is
put
on
the
record
with
with
that
consideration.
AM
I'm
also
part
of
those
surrounding
buildings,
there's
going
to
be
impact
coming
from
Every,
Which,
Way,
so
I'm
concerned
about
that
the
flawed
storm
water.
If
I
had
to
write
all
this
stuff
down
to
be
able
to
get
the
attention
and
to
be
here
today,
I'm
going
to
and
I
did
the
flawed
stormwater
analysis.
AM
AM
Mistakes
of
facts
identified
after
the
original
public
hearing
includes
the
following
flog
parking
analysis.
That's
major
and
you'll
see
parking.
Analysis
comes
up
several
times.
AM
P
Before
and
there's
some
topics
being
talked
about
in
in
this
backup
material,
well,
a
temporary
situation
in
down
temporary
parking
in
Downtown
think
help
filth.
You
know
some
of
those.
You
know.
People
who
park
right
on
Tarpon
Avenue
sit
there
all
day
in
front
of
their
business.
Do
you
think
what
Solutions
do
you
think
in
the
meantime
could
help,
including
maybe
even
having
additional
handicap
spots
in
that
general
area
after.
AM
Contacting
the
American,
Disabilities,
Act
I
think
it's
going
to
be
for
the
size
of
the
the
structure.
That's
going
to
be
built,
we're
going
to
need
more
handicap
parking,
because
there's
only
two
directly
on
Tarpon
Avenue,
and
it's
not
that
easy,
because
there's
there's
not
just
two
people
that
are
handicapped
in
the
community.
AM
A
temporary
solution
is
just
going
to
be
a
Band-Aid
myself.
Personally,
it's
going
to
work
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
because
if
it's
a
leased
parking
lot
so
five
years
down
the
road
when
that
lease
is
up,
then
what
we're
back
to
square
one
so
I
think
having
a
more
permanent
structure
is
going
to
be
in
our
best
benefit,
but
not
just
me,
but
I
think
every
business
owner.
Yes,.
P
AM
A
Okay,
Ms
Fosse,
the
the
one
thing
that
you
said
to
me:
that
kind
of
I
I
understand
everything
that
you
said,
and
you
said
that
you
did
the
the
petition,
because
you
didn't
hear
anything
back
from
the
city
as
far
as
what
we
were
going
to
do
or
what
the
city
was
going
to
do
to
help
the
problem.
Okay,
all
right
and
I'm,
hoping
we'll
have
some
information
there.
There
was
we,
after
that
approval,
there's
been
a
lot,
that's
gone
on.
A
Hopefully
we
can
share
some
of
that
with
you
and
and
I'm,
not
sure
everybody's
going
to
walk
away
satisfied,
but
at
least
one
thing,
you'll
you're
going
to
get
the
impression
that
we
just
didn't.
You
know
whatever
was
approve
the
project
and
then
just
forget
about
everything
that
was
done
and
that's
the
end
of
it
until
somebody
else
shows
up
at
public
comments
and
starts
complaining
again.
So
I'm
hoping
we'll
get
to
that
point
tonight
and.
A
AA
AM
AM
M
AM
M
Now
the
the
list
that
you
gave
us
of
what
you
were
wanting
a
reconsideration
there's
did
you
ever
get
that
that
document
that
shows
their
answers?
No.
M
AM
AA
AM
AM
M
M
A
We
there's
two
parts
to
this.
The
thing
that
Mr
commissioner
Eisner
is
asking
about,
and
then
the
thing
for
me,
which
is
equally
important,
is
to
kind
of
understand
what
the
issues
are.
I,
I,
don't
think,
in
my
opinion,
from
everything
that
I've
heard
talk
to
people,
it's
not
cohatched
per
se,
it's
the
business
climate
that
we've
got
downtown
that
and
that.
A
I
just
want
to
move
forward
and
as
positive
a
manner
as
we
can
in
that
regard.
Do
you
have
another
comment?
Okay,
anything
else
for
Ms
Frost,
nothing!
Okay,
thank
you!
Thank
you!
Ms
Vincent,
and
what
we're
going
to
do
is
again.
Ms
Vince
is
going
to
make
a
presentation.
A
If
you
know,
if
you
can
watch
this,
if
you
disagree
with
anything,
fine,
we'll
have
a
chance
to
say
something
about
it
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
public
comments
as
well
as
far
as
once.
You
know
now
that
you're
done
Miss
Vincent,
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
cohatch
group
and
and
hear
from
them
and
then
the
same
format.
Questions
will
be
asked
and
then,
in
the
end,
it'll
be
public
comments
made
by
everybody.
Anybody
that
wants
to
get
up
so
Ms
Vincent.
AN
Vice
mayor
and
Commissioners
Renee
Vincent
planning
director
I'm
just
going
to
very
briefly
go
over
the
staff
responses
to
the
original
request
for
rehearing
and
the
points
that
were
brought
out.
The
really
kind
of
grouped
into
like
three
main
categories:
one
was
the
compaction
issue,
I'll
actually
defer
to
our
building
official.
Regarding
that
issue,
the
second
was
the
storm
flawed
storm
Water,
Analysis
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
on
the
record.
That's
the
storm.
AN
Water
solution
was
thoroughly
reviewed
by
our
stormwater
Engineers
of
record
and
was
certified
as
compliant
with
our
codes,
so
that
wasn't
something
that
City
staff
on
you
know
in
a
vacuum.
Reviewed
are
Engineers
of
record
for
stormwater
that
manage
the
city
of
stormwater,
reviewed
that
and
approved
it.
Regarding
the
the
parking,
the
rest
of
the
issues
were
really
around
parking.
AN
The
calling
into
question
the
the
library
parking
lot
and
whether
or
not
that
was
should
have
been
included.
You
know
it
is
available
public
parking.
That's
why
we
included.
In
the
analysis
the
there
was
a
statement
about
the
the
Forbes
property
having
vested
parking
to
my
knowledge.
There
is
nothing
that
vests
any
parking
with
the
Forbes
property
that
property,
if
it
does
become
developed,
would
have
to
go
through
a
similar
analysis
to
what
took
place
for
cohatch.
AN
Regarding
the
the
smart
code
itself
and
there's
two
Provisions
for
parking
exceptions,
they're
not
mutually
exclusive
one,
you
know
one
doesn't
negate
the
other,
and
so
we,
you
know
properly
applied
the
smart
code
when
we
did
the
analysis
and
then
you
know
disregard,
even
with
all
of
that,
when
the
board
approved
the
resolution
for
cohatch,
you
put
mission
of
approval
that
requires
cohats
to
provide
for
parking
for
the
building
Edition
until
such
time
that
it
can
be
shown
that
it's
not
needed
in
the
future.
AN
So
you've
applied
a
condition
to
address
that.
So
we
were
very
respectfully
feel
that
the
application
was
complete.
It
was
correct
and
that
there's
not
been
you
know
any
errors
or
emissions
in
the
information
that
was
presented
with
that
I'll
stop
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
or
if
you
want
to
hear
from
the
building
official
first,
we.
AJ
Go
ahead,
yes,
sir
good
evening,
mayor,
Commissioners,
Kevin,
Powell,
building
development,
director
I
know,
there's
been
some
concern
about
the
vibratory
equipment
to
be
used
at
cohatch.
The
universal
engineering
provided
a
a
a
statement
that
you
know
using
vibratory
equipment
to
gain
the
95
percent
density,
which
is
standard
practice
within
the
construction
industry
for
development.
AJ
You
know
they
had
a
a
blurb
in
there
saying
that
if
they
were
to
notice
any
type
of
cracking
or
anything
in
adjacent
buildings
to
stop
immediately
and
then
form,
Universal
engineering
Sciences
a
little
bit
of
a
concern,
but
when
you're
doing
construction
and
you're
getting
your
foundation
compacted,
it's
normal
practice
to
use
a
a
plate,
vibrator
that
you
walk
behind
and
yes,
it
does
have
some
vibration
to
it.
AJ
AJ
You
know
this
is
a
standard
practice
throughout
the
nation.
We've
got
to
get
that
Foundation
to
a
95
density
as
what
the
engineer
called
for.
So
they
are
looking
at
other
options
to
to
the
the
the
plate
vibratory
equipment
that
they
proposed
in
the
original
engineering
analysis.
Okay,.
A
AO
A
That's
good
we'll
let
them
deal
with
the
non-vibratory
method.
That
I
think
it
was
an
updated
report
that
we
received
I.
Think
yesterday
or
today.
AJ
Yeah
I
believe
it
was
yesterday.
It
came
out
with
an
alternative
method
to
it,
but
they
they
did
end.
Conversation
I
I,
believe
that
they
will
agree
to
seismic
monitoring
on
the
site.
The.
AJ
Absolutely
we
have
one
of
our
inspectors.
Previous
jobs
was
with
a
engineering
company
that
did
soil
testing
compaction
testing
and
that
so
he
would
be
on
site
and
available
at
any
time,
but
then
again
having
that
monitoring,
we
would
know
at
any
time
if
there
is
a
situation
as
to
what
is
going
on
with
with
the
surrounding
buildings.
Okay,
thank.
D
You
and
again
mayor
we
put
that
together
after
the
last
meeting
when
we
had
the
meeting
and
the
approval
we
started
on
that,
along
with
the
parking
thing
as
we'll
talk
about
later,
but
but
we
got
Mr
Powell
working
to
have
these
extra
Provisions
for
the
protection
of
the
building
and
to
provide
maximum
ability
and
the
city
also
providing
another
level
of
watchdogging
and
making
sure
on
the
issue.
Right.
A
Thank
you,
Mr.
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
to
community
both
of
you
all
Ms
Vincent,
Mr
Paul
hang
loose
there.
A
second.
Are
there
any
commission
questions?
I
do
go
ahead.
O
K
Alone,
I
have
no
questions.
I
had
a
discussion
with
Mr
Powell
earlier
today
regarding
the
fact
of
of
the
suggested
compactor
there
with
the
addition
of
seismic
monitoring
and
stuff
like
that,
I
think
it's
fine
I
did
some
checking
not
is
it
thorough,
as
I
usually
do?
That
seems
to
be
the
common
person.
AO
D
K
P
AJ
If
there
was
something
that
was
noticeable,
they
would
stop
immediately
and
and
notify
Universal
engineering.
It
is
a
a
common
practice.
I've
seen
it
done
in
St
Augustine
around
the
old
buildings
there
in
in
Saint
Augustine
itself,
so
it
is
a
common
practice
but
I
believe
with
seismic
monitoring
and
a
potentially
a
different
type
of
compaction
weighted
ruler.
As
commissioner
Eisner
stated,
I,
don't
I
don't
see
where
issues
would
be
as
it
is
a
standard,
construction
practice.
Okay,.
P
AJ
Come
that
would
be
from
the
engineer
of
record
okay
as
to
what
would
have
to
happen
from
that
point.
It's
not
that
we're
going
to
stop
and
say
you
need
to
do
this
or
you
you
need
to
change
course,
and
do
that
we're
going
to
go
to
the
engineer
of
record
and
say,
okay,
what
what
what
are
we
doing
and
we
would
go
with
their
recommendation
at
that
point.
Thank
you,
sir.
Okay.
I'm.
A
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
cohatch
group
now.
A
Mr
Watkins,
please
go
ahead.
Sure.
AO
AP
So
the
initial
site
plan
was
approved
unanimously
by
this
board
on
January
24th
and
as
the
City
attorney
went
over
with
you,
you
know
in
order
to
Grant
a
request
for
overhearing.
There
has
to
be
some
new
evidence
or
a
mistake
of
fact
related
to
the
evidence.
That's
what
your
code
requires.
The
petition,
or
the
request
that
was
filed
was
specific
as
to
two
areas
that
they
considered
or
were
named
new
evidence,
one
of
which
was
an
incomplete
analysis
of
the
impact
of
the
vibratory
roller,
so
I'd
submit
to
you.
AP
That's
really
not
what
we're
here
about
today.
You
know:
that's
a
mechanic
of
the
engineering,
it's
not
a
portion
of
the
site
plan,
approval
per
se,
but
certainly
my
client,
you
know
hears
the
concerns.
They
did
submit
that
updated
geotechnical
report
which
does
talk
about
using
a
static
roller
instead
of
a
vibratory
roller.
We
do
have
our
general
contractor
here
that
can
speak
on
that
some
more.
They
have
also
agrees
to
do
the
monitoring
so
with
the
seismic
monitoring
included
in
that
I.
Certainly,
don't
think
it's
a
concern
again.
AP
Cohosh
has
also
been
involved
in
in
Rehabilitation
and
building
of
with
historical
buildings
and
Surround
historical
areas.
So
it's
certainly
not.
You
know
an
applicant
that
is
not
concerned,
and
would
you
know
do
something
to
risk
this
historical
area
or
their
own
building
for
that
matter.
Certainly,
the
next
new
evidence
that
was
presented
was
a
allegation
of
a
flawed
stormwater
analysis.
I
think
Miss
Vincent
covered
that
pretty
well.
The
city's
engineer
of
record
has
confirmed
that
they're
in
agreement.
AP
There
was
no
new
evidence
presented
with
that
allegation,
just
simply
a
statement
that
they
believed
there
were
some
pavers
that
may
have
been
there.
I
hope
you
all
have
reviewed
Miss,
Vincent's
memorandum.
It
was
very
thorough
and
going
back
and
looking
at
historical
photos
back
to
the
1980s
and
then
even
in
1926
fire
Insurance
map
that
showed
that
area
as
being
impervious.
So
there
was
no
no
mistake
there.
There
has
been
no
new
evidence
to
be
considered
and
we
would
say
that,
based
on
that
that
doesn't
rise
to
the
level
of
granting
or
re-hearing.
AP
Next
we
look
at
the
mistakes
of
fact
that
were
alleged
in
those
there
were
five
of
those
in
the
request.
Two
of
those
dealed
with
the
flawed
parking
analysis
again
miss
Vincent.
Your
planning
director
has
gone
over
that
the
library
parking
is
available
to
the
public.
It's
not
dedicated
just
for
Library
patrons
and
there
is
no
vested
parking
for
the
Forbes
property.
AP
Again,
all
of
the
parking
analysis
was
contained
in
the
commission
backup.
One
of
the
other
allegations
of
a
mistake
of
fact
was
that
Planning
and
Zoning
did
not
consider
the
parking
analysis.
That's
not
accurate.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
was
presented
with
that
information
on
their
November
21st
hearing.
It
is
included
in
their
backup,
so
you
know
I'm
not
sure
I
know
there
were
two
hearings
in
front
of
pnz
and
that
could
have
led
to
maybe
that
confusion,
but
it
certainly
was
presented
to
them
and
considered
just
as
it
was
by
the
commission.
AP
There
was
also
a
claim
that
the
smart
code
was
not
being
followed
or
was
being
ignored
and
Miss
Vincent's
memorandum.
She
does
Point
directly
to
table
four
E2,
which
specifically
Pro,
provides
the
exemption
for
property
in
the
transect
zone
of
t5b,
which
this
property
is
from
required
parking
where
it
can
be
demonstrated
that
available,
public
or
private
paid
parking
is
within
a
five
minute,
walk
again.
AP
AP
In
addition,
I
Believe
Miss
Vincent
talked
about
you
know
your
condition
of
the
site
plan
approval,
which
did
require
additional
parking
for
the
addition
that
is
being
constructed
on
this
building.
So
you
know,
despite
just
that,
being
exempt
from
it.
If
there
is
the
public
or
the
you
know,
paid
private
parking
nearby,
there
is
also
the
requirement
that
will
require
that
amount
of
parking
to
be
provided
by
my
client.
AP
Finally,
there
was
just
a
general
claim:
it
wasn't
read
here
tonight,
but
just
in
general
that
they
didn't
feel
that
the
commission
considered
the
far-reaching
impacts
that
this
decision
could
have
on
existing
downtown
businesses
and
their
ability
to
continue
to
thrive,
and
you
know
I
certainly
think
from
the
discussion
I've
heard
just
here
tonight.
Every
one
of
you
takes.
You
know
a
great
pride
in
considering
all
of
your
constituents,
the
businesses
and
and
doing
what's
best
for
your
community.
AP
When
you
as
a
commission,
create
it
those
plans,
those
codes,
I,
certainly
assume
that
you
did
so
in
an
effort
to
protect
all
of
your
businesses
all
of
your
citizens
and
to
provide
regulatory
rules
that
have
to
be
followed
by
both
the
city
and
new
Developers
and
what's
been
presented
to
you
at
your
20
January
24th
hearing
was
that
every
one
of
those
requirements
was
met.
It
was
shown
with
substantial
competent
evidence,
and
you
know
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
Miss
Fosse
here
tonight.
AP
But
that
may
be
separate,
and
aside
from
this
re-hearing
and
the
requirements
of
what's
necessary
to
Grant
a
re-hearing,
we
do
have
our
architect,
our
general
contractor
and,
as
you
were
already
introduced
to
John
Watkins,
our
co-principal
of
cohatch
they're
all
here
tonight,
they
can
address
additional
questions.
You
know
they're
here
to
be
a
partner
and
a
good
neighbor,
and
certainly
you
know
feel
like
they've
done
everything
they
can
to
abide
by
all
the
rules
and
all
the
regulations
and
and
would
ask
respectfully
that
you
deny
the
request
for
reconsideration.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Ms
Rubenstein
I'm,
going
to
ask
two
questions.
One.
You
can
confirm
that
there's
the
addition
there's
a
requirement
of
18
new
parking
spaces
that
are
not
now
available
to
the
general
public.
That's
a
requirement
for
the
cohatch
project.
Yes,.
AP
A
And
then
number
two
you
have
some
there:
we've
got
the
property
owners
that
are
on
either
side
of
the
former
Zone
building
is
Iris
as
I
describe
it
here.
So
if
we
could
have
somebody
that
could
speak
to
that
non-vibratory
15-ton
roller
that
was
provided
and
that
the
schedule
is
provided
in
the
the
latest
Universal
report.
I
would
appreciate
that,
so
they
could
hear
it
as
well.
Absolutely.
H
AQ
To
you
right,
there
tell
everybody,
can
hear
all
this
pollen's
getting
to
me:
Darren
Thompson,
with
Gio
delatto
and
Sons
I'm,
the
general
contractor
for
the
project.
So,
as
far
as
for
the
vibratory
roller,
we
did
get
with
Universal
engineering
and
requested
them
to
look
at
alternate
options.
I
I've
talked
with
the
building
official
also
about
this,
and
we
decided
that
if
indeed
it
is
a
mandatory
that
we
get
the
compactions
that
we
need.
So
really
it's
not
necessarily
the
roller.
That's
a
requirement.
AQ
It's
a
95
action,
that's
required,
so
seeing
as
as
they've
stated
that
there
were
pavers
and
things
in
there.
This
this
area
is
pretty
much
already
pretty
much
compacted
and
we
may
already
be
at
95,
so
there
may
not
be
any
need
for
any
of
that
at
all,
but
as
far
as
how
the
building
has
been
laid
out
and
everything,
it's
a
spread
footing
type
of
system.
So
it's
set
up
to
where
pound
a
small
vibratory
compactor
can
be
used.
A
We're
going
to
pursue,
let
me
just
get
this
straight:
you've
got
the
universal
report
that
went
off
the
vibratory
method
to
non-vibratory.
AQ
A
Static
roller,
correct
and
and
and
I
I,
read
the
report,
and
what
you're
saying
is
that
you
still
may
need
a
vibratory
compactor
as
well.
It.
AQ
A
AQ
Yeah,
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
three-prong
system.
That's
set
up
next
to
the
footings
of
the
adjacent
buildings
and
it
actually
has
a
cellular
call
that
once
you
meet
the
the
requirements
and
fdot
has
guidelines
and
requirements
as
to
what
that
is,
I
think
it's
a
0.5
so
once
it
meets
that
if
that
was
to
be
met
or
exceeded,
it
automatically
throws
off
calls
and
lets.
You
know
that
this
this
has
been
surpassed
or
the
guideline
has
has
gone
past.
So,
okay,.
A
Let
me
hold
you
right
there
in
Ms
Rubinstein
as
well.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
go
to
the
commission
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
to
Ms
Fosse,
see
if
she's
got
any
questions
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
people
that
are
here
will
be
able
to
ask
questions
of
anybody
as
well.
Once
we
get
to
that
point,
vice
mayor
all
right,
so.
K
There's
obviously
been
a
concern
about
damage
to
adjacent
property
because
of
vibratory
compaction
methods
to
my
Recollections.
The
building
that
you're,
renovating
or
nodding
on
to
is
the
oldest
building
on
that
street.
Is
it
not
likely,
in
your
estimation,
that
that
might
be
the
first
building
to
show
any
sort
of
structural
stress
because
of
the
vibratory
mechanism?
So
is
not
one
of
the
things
that
you're
trying
to
avoid
in
the
first
place,.
AR
Absolutely
Angela
Hendershot
principal
row:
Architects
cohatch,
retained
us
for
this
project
because
we
specialized
in
historic
preservation,
adaptive
reuse
in
addition
to
historic
buildings.
So
this
type
of
well
the
compaction
is
obviously
necessary
to
have
a
stable
Foundation
but
you're
exactly
right
that
the
cohatch
building
itself
would
be
the
most.
You
know.
AA
AR
Impact
of
of
this
equipment,
so
obviously
we're
going
to
be
monitoring
that
regardless,
but
in
addition,
we'll
have
the
the
seismic
monitoring
to
make
sure
that
there's
there's
no
impact
to
the
adjacent
property.
This
is
all
very
standard
procedure,
with
any
historic
building
to
be
kind
of
just
very
consciously
observing
the
process,
but
we've
also
had
our
Structural
Engineers
look
very
very
carefully
at
the
existing
building
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
going
to
be
in
good
shape
throughout
the
process.
K
Yeah
and
I
look
at
some
of
the
specifications
for
the
footings
and
the
load,
seventeen
thousand
per
foot-
that's
pretty
that's
pretty
heavy
duty,
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
be
very
careful
in
putting
those
footings
in
so
like
I,
said:
I
I
looked
at
the
whole
report.
I
thought
it
was
well
well
done.
Thank.
H
A
AB
M
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate.
This
is
a
standard
thing
to
put
sensors
there
to
protect
the
two
adjacent
buildings
to
also
protect
your
building.
This
is
not
something
that
is
you're,
putting
something
dangerous
and
hoping
for
the
best.
Not
I,
know
that
so
I
just
wanted
everybody
else
to
know
that
the
other
thing
is:
what
type
of
footing
do
you
plan
on
putting
in.
AQ
It's
more
of
a
matte
footing
so
that
it's
with
grade
beams.
So
essentially
it's
got
a
perimeter
footing
that
goes
around
the
perimeter
and
then
there's
in
between
there
are
grade
beams
that
tie
everything
together.
So
it's
a
full
matte
type
construction.
That
kind
of
the
whole
thing
floats
together.
So
it's
all
tied
together,
which.
AR
Well,
it's
it's
basically
because
of
the
the
soils
that
that
we
have
here
in
in
the
coastal
area
that
you
basically
have
to
spread
the
force
throughout
the
entire
area,
so
that
that
that
Foundation,
basically
is,
is
like
a
large
raft
spreading
the
impact
across
the
entire
zone.
So
you
don't
have
significant
Point
loads
in
any
one
location.
So.
AQ
Yeah
correct,
it
definitely
could
be
right
and
we've
started
getting
Proctors,
which
is
the
beginning
stages
of
it.
So
that
determines
the
density
of
the
of.
L
AQ
So
the
testing
testing
people
will
be
coming
out,
probably
within
next
week
and
so
just
to
verify,
where
we're
at
in
compaction
wise
and
we
can
get
with
the
the
adjacent
business
owners
and
just
kind
of
tell
them
where
we're
at
with
this.
So
I.
M
Just
want
people
to
understand,
you're,
not
going
in
there
with
you
know
a
sledgehammer
just
shaking
the
place
down
and
everybody's
business
is
going
to
fall
down.
That's
not
the
intention,
so
this
has
been
there
over
a
hundred
years.
I'm
pretty
sure
when
you
have
a
situation
like
this
nobody's,
dug
it
up,
and
you
know
re
put
it
down
like
they
do
in
a
lot
of
houses,
so
I'm,
just
in
a
very
much
agreement,
I
I,
think
the
lack
of
knowledge
of
what
sensors
are
and
impact
vibrations
made.
P
I
have
no
questions
on
the
laboratory
area,
but
I
did
want
to
ask
something
with
please
Mr
John.
You
have
other
cohatches,
you
know
across
the
country,
and
you
know
with
similar
square
footage.
P
This
one
is
probably
going
to
be
one
of
your
bigger
ones
from
looking
at
other
Square
foots
and
do
you
have
any
numbers
that
show
that
you
know?
If
are
all
the
offices
used
I
mean
are?
Is
it
full
all
the
time
Monday
through
Fridays?
Are
there
waves
of
people
come
in
and
out
of
it,
do
you
have
any
numbers
that
show
that
you
know
these
type
of
buildings?
Don't
necessarily
are
going
to
take
up
the
full
occupancy
of
what
they
could
During
certain
times
of
the
day.
P
AO
First,
let
me
say
we
are
in
several
cities
where
we
have
a
similar
kind
of
situation.
A
lot
lined
a
lot
line.
Property
street
parking
is
limited,
limited
City,
Lots
Lakeland
is
an
example
we're
in
Lakeland
with
13
000
square
feet,
and
you
know
we
haven't
had
a
problem
in
Lakeland
Carmel
Indiana
we're
right
on
the
corner
of
Maine
and
Maine
and
a
11
000
square
foot.
You
know
not
a
lot
of
parking
around
and
everybody
just
seems
to
manage.
AO
Zionsville
Indiana
is
another
example
and
I
was
through
several
meetings
like
this
in
Zionsville
with
the
various
committees,
so
it
it's.
It's
worked,
and
you
know
I
just
like
to
say
to
hopefully
our
future
neighbors
that
you
know
we
want
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
We
you
know
we've
been
through
this
before
we
understand
it,
and
you
know
we
want
to
work
with
you
and
and
work
with
the
city
to
accelerate
the
process.
That's
already
in
price,
and
you
know,
play
our
little
small
role
in
that.
AO
In
terms
of
your
specific
question,
commissioner,
we
have
private
offices
so
about
a
third
of
our
spaces.
Private
offices
and
about
a
third
of
the
space
is
co-working
and
then
a
third
of
the
space
is
meeting
rooms,
conference
rooms
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
the
restaurant,
and
so
it's
the
the
offices.
AO
You
know
people
tend
to
be
there
most
of
the
day,
but
you
know
it's:
it's
Ultra
small
small
and
medium-sized
businesses,
mostly
in
Professional
Services
people
are
in
and
out
sometimes
they
have
clients
or
customers
that
come
in
and
out
the
co-workers.
Think
of
that
as
a
gym,
they're
sort
of
like
waves
that
you
know
people
there's
certain
peak
times
where
people
you
know
come
in
and
out,
but
I
would
say
you
know
in
a
similar
size
property.
You
know
we
and
other
locales.
AO
We
would
have
anywhere
from
50
to
100
people
at
the
peak
times
and
then
it's
obviously
much
less
on
a
Friday
afternoon
or
a
Monday
morning.
You
know,
in
terms
of
you
know
how
many
people
are
there.
I
would
just
say
we
pick
our
locations
where
most
of
the
people
that
we're
trying
to
attract
to
come
and
be
our
members
can
walk
or
bike.
We
look
for
these
high
density
places.
We
want
to
be
where
people
live
and
where
they
they
can
walk,
and
it's
we.
AO
We
call
it
as
an
extension
of
your
home,
and
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
people
that
that
bike
or
walk
to
our
location.
So
the
you
know
the
demand
on
traffic
and
I
say
it's
not
there.
It
is
there
I'd,
be
disingenuous
to
say
otherwise,
but
it's
it's.
AO
It's
not
like
a
grade
A
office
that
you
think
you
know
you
know
in
some
sort
of
Office
Park,
where
everybody
arrives
at
8
30
in
the
morning
leaves
at
5
30.,
it's
it's
more
in
and
out
and
it's
it's
all
small
businesses.
AO
AR
AR
As
as
full
as
you
possibly
could,
with
with
bodies,
you
know
how
many
could
you
fit,
so
that
number
is
is
nowhere
near
what
we
would
expect
kind
of
a
day-to-day
usage
to
be.
AO
Of
the
max
amount,
yeah
but
I
mean
again
it's.
It
varies
from
let's
say
50
to
150
people.
You
know
through
the
course
of
the
day
you
know.
Rarely
would
you
see
more
than
100
people
in
there.
At
the
same
time,
I
mean
that
there's
there'd
be
an
event
going
on.
AO
You
know
somebody
having
a
board
meeting
or
you
know,
a
team
building
event
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
it's
usually
in
the
range
between
50
to
75.
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
AM
So
I
mean
I
went
online
and
I
was
looking
at
more
about
cohatch.
Is
this
facility
going
to
have
a
sleep
pod
where
the
other
facilities
around
had
sleep
pods,
okay,.
AA
O
A
Right,
okay,
so
that's
we've
done
Miss
Fosse!
We
did
Miss
Vincent
cohatch.
A
Now
what
I
want
to
do
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
time
to
do
it
and
I
asked
the
city
manager
to
put
a
package
together
today
to
hand
out
so
and
I'm
going
to
do
this
now,
so
you
have
it
in
your
hand,
and
you
can
ask
questions
of
anybody
that
you
want,
whether
it's
here
at
the
city
or
whether
it's
anyone
else
so
Chief
you
have,
if
you
can
have
one
and
and
make
sure
that
if
we
can
distribute
as
as
well
as
we
can
and
commissioner
elect
coulianis
is
up
there
at
the
yes
yeah,
if
you
could
put
them
out
there
and
get
a
copy
of
that
if
you'd
like
sure
all
right.
A
This
is
a
handout.
This
gets
back
to
miss
the
most
fosse's
comment
about
the
the
petition
being
created
because
she
really
didn't
have
had
heard
anything
and
that's
a
fair
statement.
So
I'm
not
going
to
take
issue
with
that,
and
so
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we've
done
and
I'd
like
for
you
to
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
them
quickly
once
everybody
tends
to
have
them
in
hand,
and
these
are
Concepts.
A
These
are
things
that
could
happen.
They
may
not
happen.
If
you
don't
want
them,
then
you
need
to
let
us
know
if
you
do
want
them,
you
need
to.
Let
us
know,
you
don't
need
to.
Let
us
know
tonight,
but
if
you've
got
some
initial
reaction,
let
us
know
so
and
obviously
I
don't
did
you
you
didn't.
Did
you
talk
to
any
of
the
Commissioners
about
this?
No.
A
Yeah
a
few
hours
before
the
meeting,
you
know
because
of
a
variety
of
issues,
one
of
them
being
Sunshine
Law
there
isn't
anything,
I
can
do
so
anyway.
This
was
put
together
by
several
people.
One
of
them,
as
you
already
know,
is
a
parking
study
that
we're
being
that
we're
doing
right
now
we
did
do
the
RFP
is
being
created
at
the
present
time
and
will
be
put
out
to
to
to
advertising
and-
and
that
would
be
that's
already
been
approved.
A
The
another
item
which
is
I
think
something
that
was
brought
up
this
evening
or
maybe
wrong,
was
a
moratorium
on
on
occupancy
expansions.
In
other
words,
if
you
feel
that
we're
at
a
critical
stage
with
parking
and
that
we
should
not
allow
any
other
businesses
to
increase
their
occupancy
number
of
seats,
number
of
tables
number
of
whatever
facilities
are.
That
brings
people
into
that.
Certainly,
the
commission
could
establish
a
moratorium
until
we
resolve
the
parking.
Are
the
next
one
would
be
modifying
the
special
area
plan
and
the
Land
Development
code.
A
That
would
require
any
buildings
in
the
future,
whether
they're
existing
or
new,
that
increases
their
occupancy
to
also
provide
parking,
which
is
not
the
case
now.
So
that's
another
one,
another
one
that
you've
got
a
some
drawings
in
the
back.
If
I
remember
right,
the
Forbes
property,
the
the
building
that
was
there,
was
torn
down
in
2008.
A
Honestly
I
didn't
agree
with
that
decision,
but
it
was
done
and
we've
got
a
vacant
lot
and
the
first
I
think
attempt
to
have
something
built
on
that
and
I've
gone
through
the
history
on
this
when
I
was,
commissioner,
was
212,
2012
and
I.
Think
since
then,
we've
had
two
or
three
more
attempts
failed
attempts
at
getting
buildings
put
on
that,
so
that
building
is
that
lot
has
just
been
basically
an
eyesore
sitting
there.
The
Merchants
Association
uses
it
for
a
stage
for
their
events
and
things.
A
So
you
know
we,
the
staff
decided,
let's
look
at
what
we
can
could
do
with
regard
to
parking
on
that
location
and
see
if
it
makes
any
sense,
but
one
thing
that
it
does
do.
It
would
be
going
off
Tarpon
Avenue
on
through
that
parking
lot.
There
would
be
about
15
parking
spaces
there
and
then,
by
going
that
way,
that
would
lead
directly
into
the
train
station
parking
lot.
A
Whereas
now
you
have
to
go
down
to
the
corner
of
Safford,
make
a
right
go
all
the
way
around
to
Lemon,
Street
and
kind
of
access
it
just
in
front
of
the
library
that
would
eliminate
that
and
you
would
go
be
able
to
go
straight
off.
Tarpon
Avenue.
The
other
thing
too
is
I
know
this
might
make
commissioner
Carr
feel
good.
This
would
be
a
direct
access
to
the
parking
garage
that
would
be
built
directly
off
Tarpon
Avenue
straight
into
a
parking
garage
that
would
be
located
on
the
the
property
that
we've
identified.
A
I
don't
want
to
maintain
names,
but
there's
a
law
office
there
right
now
so,
but
that
would
be
the
the
the
game
plan
for
that.
So
there's
some
advantages
of
doing
that.
There
would
be
a
I
think
on
site,
depending
on
whatever
approach
you
would
want
to
take.
It
could
get
about
15
parking
spaces,
but
then
you
would
wind
up
having
a
couple
eliminated
on
Tarpon
Avenue
as
well.
A
The
other
thing
that
was
asked
I
think
at
the
meeting
for
cohatch
back
in
January,
was
Time
parking,
whether
the
businesses
would
re,
if
there's
an
issue
with
some
businesses,
where
their
customers
are
not
there
all
day,
where
they're
there
for
an
hour
on
two
hours.
30
minutes
would
identifying
some
of
the
parking
spaces
As
Time
parking.
Would
that
be
acceptable
and
I
really
didn't
get
an
answer
to
that.
So
we
put
that
on
the
table
and
then
the
city
manager's
thought
was
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
A
If
you
want
to
make
that
time
parking
on
this
parking
lot
for
the
Forbes,
that
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
enforce
it
by
the
police
department
rather
than
driving
up
and
down
Tarpon
Avenue.
So
that's
a
thought
that
again
these
are
Concepts.
Those
decisions
been
made.
The
commission
has
seen
it
as
the
city
manager
said
for
the
first
time
tonight
we're
not
unless
the
commission
wants
to
discuss
it,
we're
not
going
to
get
into
a
lengthy
discussion
of
each
one.
A
The
purpose
of
this
list
is
to
demonstrate
to
you
that
we
just
didn't
just
walk
away
from
this.
After
the
the
project
was
approved,
and
then
the
last
thing
was
I
know,
Ms
Wendt
is
here.
Is
she
still
here
there
you
are?
There
is
some
thought
and
there's
another
list
here.
That
shows
you.
The
number
of
special
events
that
are
held
downtown
each
year,
there's
33
and
that
doesn't
include
the
wine
walks-
were
not
which
are
not
technically
special
events,
but
they
do
draw
a
lot
of
people
to
the
downtown.
A
There's
been
some
discussion
of
looking
at
reducing
the
number
of
special
events
and
I.
Think
Ms
fascia
gets
into
your
thing
about
tying
up.
The
parking
and
special
events
and
I
did
talk
to
Ms
Rodriguez
today
and
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
her
at
least
mentioned
to
her
so
anyway,
okay
well
I
spoke
to
her
and
yesterday
and
then
today
again-
and
there
is
your
your
organization,
speaking
from
her-
would
be
receptive
to
a
discussion.
A
So
that
would
be
something
that
if
you
want
to
come
forward
and
and
state
your
question,
I
can
address
it.
Since.
AS
A
To
none
I,
don't
know
yet
and
and
I
think
that
the
one
thing
that
she
brought
up
was
the
second
Saturday
event,
and
that
would
be
another
benefit
to
the
converting
that
one
Forbes
property
to
relocate
the
second
Saturday
market
to
that
location
and
opening
up
the
mirrors
parking
lot
completely.
That
was
a
thought
that
the
city
manager
said
I,
think
Ms
Rodriguez
brought
it
up
as
well.
A
I,
don't
know
you
guys
put
the
events
on
I
just
helped
set
up,
sometimes
so
anyway,
that
that's
as
far
as
we've
gotten
I,
don't
have
any
answers
for
you.
It
would
be
a
matter
of
discussion
and
again
the
purpose
of
what
I'm,
showing
this
evening
is
just
to
demonstrate
that
we
just
haven't
been
sitting
around
hoping
you
know,
sticking
our
heads
in
the
sand.
AS
Sorry,
I'm
short,
second
Saturdays,
it's
a
flexible
event,
I
mean
you
can
move
to
some
place
right.
A
AS
A
Okay,
all
right,
that's
all
I
have
if
y'all
want
to
say
anything.
Commissioner
coulash
you've
got
your
hand
raised.
P
Yes,
I
I
did
want
to
have
maybe
a
concept
for
as
some
Property
Owners
of
downtown
mentioned.
You
know
Parkin
and
Luffy
with
something
like
that.
Even
be
feasible,
a
parking
and
Luffy
basically
yeah.
AT
P
A
Miss
terapani
stated
before
and
I
did
speak
with
the
parish
council
president
for
Saint
Nicholas.
They
did
have
concerns
for
Downtown
parking,
but
they
they
also
stated
potential
interest
in
leasing.
The
big
Hall
parking
lot
for
some
events
in
the
future,
and
that
was
a
discussion
I'd
had
with
him
today
so
I.
You
know,
I
advised
him
to
reach
out.
M
A
A
AB
AA
A
AB
A
You'd
like
to
say
something
about
them:
we're
not
making
any
decisions
on
that.
The
the
business
at
hand
tonight
is
the
reconsideration
of
the
cohatch,
the
purpose
of
showing
what
I
you
know
what
we,
what
I
showed
tonight.
What
we
presented
tonight
was
the
purpose
of
demonstrating
that
we
haven't.
Based
on
what
Ms
Fosse
said,
we
haven't
just
been
sitting
waiting.
You
know
with
our
heads.
AB
AE
AE
So
I
think
we
need
to
get
back
to
the
topic
tonight,
which
Ms
Fosse
brought
up,
and
many
of
us
were
involved
in
and
have
some
concerns
about,
but
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
to
the
cohatch
folks
we're
not
opposed
to
cohatch
we're
not
opposed
to
their
concept.
I
think
it's
an
interesting
concept!
I've,
never
seen
one
before
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
I
welcome
them
to
the
downtown,
but,
like
any
other
new
business
to
downtown,
they
need
to
meet
the
code.
AE
All
of
our
codes
and
then
he
did
not
negatively
harm
other
businesses.
So
that's
that's
the
kind
of
the
evaluation
that
we
look
at
you're,
going
to
hear
from
a
variety
of
other
property
owners,
the
property
owners
on
each
side
and
immediately
adjacent
that
are
most
directly
affected
and
many
of
the
property
owners
on
that
block
on
Tarpon,
Avenue
and
you're,
also
going
to
hear
from
any
of
the
business
owners,
in
addition
to
miss
Fossey,
based
on
the
request
for
the
rehearing
and
the
speakers
you're
going
to
hear
tonight.
AE
We
believe
that
it
is
clear
that
there
is
new
evidence
since
the
hearing
and
mistakes
of
fact.
In
fact,
you
had
new
evidence
presented
tonight
about
the
rollers
being
a
different
method.
We
welcome
that
we're
glad
to
hear
that,
but
that
evidence
was
not
provided
during
the
first
hearing
that
we
had
that
you
all
had
on
the
site
plan.
We
also
welcomed
the
new
evidence
that
they
are
proposing
to
do
seismic
monitors
at
the
two
buildings
adjacent
again
new
evidence
that
was
not
discussed.
We
welcome
that.
AE
AE
We
have
them
saying
on
the
record
I'm
going
to
hold
them
to
their
word
and
hope
that
they
would
do
that
and
I
hope
that
you
will
hold
them
to
to
doing
all
those
things
they
just
talked
about
with
regard
to
the
compaction
and
the
and
the
monitors
with
regard
to
the
off-site
parking.
The
staff
parking
analysis
is
flawed
and
anybody
with
common
sense
can
see
it.
The
actual
number
of
permanent
parking
spaces
are
only
those
spaces
that
you
own
and
that
number
of
spaces
is
137
spaces.
You
can't
count
on
lease
parking
there's.
AE
There
are
only
lease
for
10
years
and
most
of
those
parking
space
leases
that
you
have
rev
run
some
time,
not
a
lot
of
time,
but
they
have
run
so
what
happens
when
the
10
years
is
up
and
that
and
that
property
owner
doesn't
want
to
renew
the
lease?
The
building
is
still
there,
not
just
cohatch,
but
all
the
rest
of
us
that
rely
on
that
parking
and
the
parking
is
gone.
So
that
really
should
not
be
counted.
AE
If
you
discount
all
of
that
leased
parking,
you
only
have
about
30
percent
of
the
required
parking
based
on
the
city's
calculation,
not
mine,
the
city's
calculation.
So
that's
a
flaw.
In
my
opinion,
the
library
parking
and
John
can
speak
to
it
because
he
was
on
the
board.
The
library
parking
is
required
by
your
code
for
a
library
to
have
its
own
parking.
It
was
not
built
for
General
parking.
Sometimes
people
do
park
there,
obviously,
but
the
parking
for
the
library
is
required
for
the
library.
AE
It's
as
if
saying
at
the
Winn-Dixie
shopping
center
that
the
parking
for
the
Winn-Dixie
shopping
center
that
the
new
bank
doesn't
have
to
provide
parking
because
the
Winn-Dixie
shopping
center
have
parking
I
mean
that's
kind
of
the
flawed
analysis
that
the
city
staff
is
saying.
And
finally,
you
have
two
rfps
that
were
issued
on
the
Forbes
property.
That
said,
no
parking
is
required.
So
how
can
you
say
that
that
parking
is
not
vested
if
you
put
in
the
Forbes
as
a
demand
on
parking?
Your
parking
analysis
flaw
is
flawed
again
and
it
fails.
AE
The
final
thing
I
want
to
say
about
parking
is
about
a
loading
space.
Some
every
Commercial
Business
in
the
city
is
required
to
have
a
loading
space
in
it
in
a
number
of
them
range
by
the
size
of
the
commercial
business.
In
this
particular
case,
it
will
be
one
loading
space.
Some
businesses
probably
don't
use
it
and
I'll
finish
up,
but.
AE
Well,
if
you'll
do
something
finish,
my
sentence
like
you,
let
most
other
people
do
I'd
appreciate
it.
The
loading
space
in
this
business
you're
going
to
have
beer
deliveries,
you're
going
to
have
food
deliveries.
Where
are
they
going
to
deliver
that
on
Tarpon,
Avenue
I?
Don't
think
so
in
the
alley
and
block
the
alley
for
the
other
people
who
use
the
alley
again
and
not
a
fair
situation,
we're
just
suggesting
that
they
really
need
to
provide
that
one
parking
space.
It's
not
exempt
in
your
code
for
loading
only
for
parking.
AE
So
again,
that's
a
mistake
of
fact
in
the
city
staff
again
we're
not
opposed
to
cohatch.
We
really
are
not.
We
really
want
them
to
fit
in
with
our
neighborhood.
We
we
think
they're
going
to
be
a
good
solution
and
a
good
part
of
downtown,
but
they
have
got
to
not
negatively
harm
other
folks
and
they
are
exacerbating
the
producting
problem
and
they
are
exacerbate
the
traffic
on
Tarpon
Avenue
if
they
use
that
as
their
loading
space.
AE
AU
Springs
and
111
Tarpon
Avenue
my
concern
one
is
the
I'm,
not
I
won't
even
go
there
cohatch,
you
guys
are
all
wonderful,
we're
glad
to
have
you,
but
we
don't
know
where
we're
going.
To
put
you
that's
the
biggest
problem.
The
second
thing
that
I
have
a
real
concern
about
is
this
is
what
the
engineer
said,
and
this
is
what
he
said,
and
this
is
what
she
said.
I
want
to
know
what
happens
when
the
walls
go
down
who's
going
to
pay
full.
AU
Z
AU
Guys
went
out
and
rented
parking
spaces
and,
and
of
course
it
did
help,
but
now
you've
gone
and
brought
somebody
that
has
I
guess,
40
employees
and
supposedly
100
people
a
day
coming
in
and
out,
there's
not
enough
parking
places
in
the
world
for
them.
AU
I,
don't
know
how
we
planned
on
doing
it,
but
Tarpon
Springs
has
always
been
a
Greek
Town
Greek
businesses
and
it's
always
done
real.
Well,
it's
it's
like
you
want
to
put
us
under
the
under
the
gun
and
we
don't
understand
why
that's
all
I
got
to
say.
Okay.
Thank
you.
AV
AV
AV
They
Market
to
local
community
and
they
hope
to
provide
an
additional
place
for
residents
of
that
town.
Can
work
play
and
live
and
I
think
that's
inviting
to
many
people
and
it
specifically
honors
the
community.
That
is
Tarpon
Springs
I
know
that
there
that
tonight
there's
much
to
learn,
and
it
has
already
been
much
to
learn
from
one
another
and
as
a
pastor,
I
believe
that
it's
best
practice
for
every
person
of
peace
that
serves
its
neighbors
and
community
members.
AV
Well,
I
genuinely
feel
that
that's
almost
everyone's
goal
here
tonight
as
well,
so
my
prayer,
my
small
requests,
is
that
we
honor
to
another
each
other
tonight
as
neighbors
and
have
open
minds
and
Open
Hearts
and
how
to
best
serve
our
neighborhood.
This
community
and
the
business
is
in
it.
Thank
you.
A
AW
A
AW
AW
So
I
need
to
restate
my
name
or
am
I
in
the
record.
Go
ahead:
okay,
good
evening
we
own
and
operate
I
own
and
operate
Falcons
department
store
and
shoe
repair
in
factless
Orthopedic
Services,
located
at
139
East
Tarpon
Avenue.
We
are
directly
adjacent
and
share
a
common
wall
with
the
cohatch
property.
AW
My
family
has
lived
in
this
community
since
1908
and
we
have
been
in
continuous
business
in
Tarpon
since
1912..
We
are
open
six
days
a
week
and
often
Works
seven
days.
We
have
retail
customers
and
medical
patients
that
we
see
on
a
daily
basis,
from
children
to
the
elderly
and
from
the
handicap
to
Elite
and
professional
athletes.
AW
AW
We
are
not
an
out-of-state
multi-million
dollar
Corporation.
We
are
locally
owned
and
operated
growing
business
that
has
committed
to
being
in
a
downtown
tarpon
Springs
area.
We
approach.
We
pay
approximately
ten
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes
just
for
that
building
alone,
we
own
a
few
other
buildings
as
well
out
of
our
own
Pockets.
We
have
cons,
contributed
to
the
through
the
years
to
our
main
city
parking
lot.
AW
We
even
pushed
for
an
additional
parking
lot,
approximately
20
years
ago,
when
we
were
told
by
the
city
that
there
is
not
enough
parking
downtown
I'm
here
to
tell
you
once
again
that
there
is
not
enough
parking
I've
been
here
a
few
times
saying
that
we
have
added
quite
a
few
restaurants,
bars
and
new
businesses
to
downtown
without
requiring
additional
parking.
I
am
all
for
a
vibrant,
downtown
I
want
us
all
to
succeed.
AW
Even
the
cohatch
people
we,
if
we
succeed,
the
city
succeeds
as
I
stated
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
meeting
and
at
the
previous
boc
meeting.
I
am
not
against
this
business
or
these
business
people.
They
seem
like
nice.
People
I,
don't
fault
this
business
I
want
to
be
a
great
neighbor
and
I
want
a
vibrant
downtown.
Where
everyone
succeeds.
If
we,
the
business
people
succeed,
the
city
succeeds.
Some
of
my
greatest
concerns
are
as
follows.
AW
As
an
adjacent
property
owner,
my
biggest
concern
is
potential
structural
issues
and
damages
to
my
property,
because
we
share
a
common
wall
and
other
100
plus
year
old,
historical
properties.
Our
attorney
is
trying
to
address
the
situation
with
the
cohatches
attorney
because,
as
Mr
Johansen
stated,
if
these
buildings
go
down
who's
going
to
pay
for
them.
Secondly,
we
are
told
that
there
will
not
be
a
great
stress
on
parking
and
truly
I'm,
not
knocking
the
cohatch
people,
but
I.
AW
AW
Five-Minute,
walk
parameter
for
parking,
doesn't
work
for
retail
service
and
medical
businesses.
We
have
Saint
Nicholas
cathedral,
which
is
right
there,
one
of
the
largest
property
holders.
Just
the
other
day.
There
was
a
funeral.
We
have
a
lot
of
funerals.
A
lot
of
services.
I
had
to
go,
see
a
patient
at
her
house
because
she
was
unable
to
come
to
us
again
because
she
says
she
can't
find
parking,
and
it's
true
when
I
came
back.
I
could
not
find
a
parking
space
at
all,
because
there
was
a
large
funeral
going
on.
H
AW
I
could
not
get
back
to
my
building
to
my
business
to
see
my
customers
when
I
finally
got
there.
I
had
to
call
a
a
neighboring
business
and
say:
hey
can
I
park
in
your
parking
space
in
their
parking
lot
and
they
said
yes,
when
I
got
there,
guess
what
nobody
could
find
parking.
My
my
customer
says
we
need
to
reschedule
Dennis
kappis.
He
asked
me
to
speak
on
his
behalf
today.
AW
A
local
resident
major
downtown
property
owner
couldn't
make
it
tonight
but
told
me
to
bring
up
the
fact
and
I'm
confused
here
that
he
approached
the
city
three
different
times
to
erect
the
building
on
the
vacant
Forbes
lot
and
was
told
that
there
is
not
enough
parking.
I'm
confused.
Is
the
city
still
trying
to
develop
this
piece?
Is
there
vested
parking
on
this
piece?
AW
If
so,
the
parking
numbers
don't
add
up
I'm,
not
knocking
anybody,
but
I'm
here
to
tell
you
they
don't
many
events
are
downtown
without
added
parking,
two
Saturdays
in
a
row
I'm
not
against
events,
but
two
Saturdays
in
a
row.
There
was
events
the
the
car
show
we
were
closed
down.
Then
they
the
there
was
the
touch
of
truck,
which
is
a
nice
event,
but
there's
not
enough
parking.
My
in
the
busiest
time
of
the
year,
my
totals
were
down
my
revenues.
Two-Thirds
I
can
two
Saturdays
in
a
row.
AW
I
cannot
survive
like
that
and
I'll
end
with
this
I'm
not
trying
to
be
difficult
or
not
be
a
good
neighbor
I
want
more
business
downtown,
ideally
I'm
for
increasing
critical
mass
as
long
as
largest
logistically,
everything
works,
I'm
a
big
Pro
business
person,
but
there
are
major
issue
issues
that
affect
our
livelihood
as
Property
Owners,
business
owners
and
land.
The
Lord
said
we
are
not
being
consulted
on
or
listened
to,
I
think
this
is.
This
is
great
that
we're
talking
about
this,
but
we
need
to
be
taught.
AW
AT
AT
What
are
you
doing
with
historic
preservation
in
this
community
you're
killing
it
with
this
I
want
them
to
come.
If
she's
historically
knowledgeable,
don't
change
one
of
the
oldest
buildings
in
our
community
with
a
new
facade,
they
don't
need
to
enlarge
in
the
back.
Why
didn't
you
offer
them
the
lot,
the
Forbes
property,
where
they
could
have
built
what
they
wanted?
That
is
a
tax
base,
not
a
parking
lot
mayor.
You
were
the
engineer
here.
AT
You
were
head
of
the
building
department
and
then
you
became
a
city
manager.
While
I
was
in
office,
you
were
a
hundred
percent
for
historic
preservation.
What's
changed,
all
of
you
were
for
historic
preservation.
We've
talked
about
it.
The
change
the
facade
of
this
building
is
wrong
is
go
change.
The
whole
Aurora
of
Tarpon
Springs
downtown,
don't
lose
what
we've
got
here.
It's
save
it
read
all
the
magazines
coming
from
Boston
Connecticut,
all
the
way
down
the
coastline,
what
they're
doing
in
their
magazines
to
preserve
what
they
have
in
their
communities?
AT
Don't
kill
us,
don't
let
them
change
the
facade
of
this
building,
which
is
very
historic.
The
oldest
building
here
I,
am
disappointed
in
the
planning
and
zoning,
and
you
talk
about
having
openness.
There
was
not
a
sign
in
the
window
there
for
the
historic
preservation
consideration.
There
was
not
a
sign
there
that
they
wanted
to
go
into
the
alley
and
enlarge
the
building.
Nothing
was
advertised
in
that
building
and
let
me
tell
you
I'm
up
and
down
that
street
every
day
never
did
I
see.
AT
One
I
was
shocked
when
I
heard
it
what's
going
on
here.
We
can't
have
it
both
ways.
Your
responsibility
as
our
elected
elected
officials,
is
to
bring
business
into
town,
bring
tax
space
in
the
town
I'm
all
for
new
businesses,
I'm
also
all
for
new
development
in
this
community
to
help
us
we've
got
to
pay
these
bills
but
take
care
of
what
we've
got.
What
all
of
our
families,
through
the
years
have
let
have
built
in
this
community?
AT
Don't
change
it
because
once
you
change
it,
you're
not
going
to
get
it
back
and
I'm
very
disappointed
in
our
historic
preservation
board
transparency.
Wasn't
there
nothing
on
this
development?
Do
it
right?
Let
them
come
in,
but
do
it
with
what
we've
got?
Don't
enlarge
our
buildings?
Don't
change
them!
Don't
change
the
face
of
these
buildings
because
it's
going
to
ruin
our
community.
AX
Good
evening,
everyone
Tracy
swade
Curran's
Restaurant
200
East,
Tarpon
Avenue
and
204
East
Tarpon
Avenue
I'm,
going
to
keep
it
short
and
sweet.
All
four
cohatch
just
wanted
to
make
that
perfectly
clear.
Economic
development
is
the
primal
thing
that
has
kept
us
all
in
business
and
making
us
a
destination
here
is
imperative.
AX
Parking
is
the
issue,
so
how
you
guys
go
about
that
transparency
for
us
and
just
making
it
happen,
is
really
all
that
I'm
here
to
comment
about
so
first
I'm
heard
about
a
parking
garage
exciting
so
again
just
keep
us
in
the
loop
and
actually
just
make
it
happen.
So
we
all
have
more
parking,
so
we
can
all
be
a
destination
for
Tarpon
Springs.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
AY
Good
evening,
I'm
Christy
Howard
I
live
at
915,
Bayshore,
Drive
and
I
have
a
business
located
at
155
East
Tarpon,
Avenue
I
am
presently
under
contract
to
buy
the
building
at
155
East
Tarpon
Avenue,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
surrounding
what
I'm
hearing
about
the
compaction
and
whatnot
I
I
am
glad
to
hear
they
have
that
under
control
the
sensors
and
some
other
modifications.
However,
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
is
more
related
to
the
order
of
operations.
How
things
are
going
to
happen?
AY
Will
we
handle
the
parking
situation
first
and
then
allow
construction
to
proceed,
because
when
just
a
very
small
little
bit
of
work
was
being
done
upstairs
for
me
when
they
were
opening
up
the
bookstore,
we
were
glad
to
have
it
very
little
bit.
She
moved
a
couple
of
walls
whatever
where
to
put
the
dumpster
the
vans
from
just
the
renovation,
guys.
That's
all
that
were
back
there.
It
really
created
a
lot
of
drama
in
the
back
of
the
building
and
the
the
parking
lot
the
HVAC
guides,
whatever.
AY
How
are
materials
going
to
get
brought
in?
Where
are
they
going
to
be
unloaded
while
they're
actually
performing
this
construction?
And
a
big
question
for
me
would
just
be:
how
long
is
this
construction
period
due
to
take,
because
I
do
believe
we
will
work
through
the
parking
situation,
I
think
we'll
just
we'll
Cobble
it
together?
We
always
do
that
kind
of
thing
will
be
fine.
However,
that
could
be
a
couple
three
years
of
a
lot
of
impairment
for
all
of
our
businesses
before
cohatch
ever
opens.
At
the
rate
you
know,
things
are
moving
along.
AY
The
other
concern
I
would
have
is
just
generally
we're
going
to
Forever
change
the
footprint
of
our
Historic
downtown
building
by
making
that
really
quite
a
behemoth
compared
to
other
buildings,
down
downtown
and
no
offense
to
cohatch,
but
co-working
isn't
doing
the
best
in
all
the
markets
and
whatnot
I,
don't
know
what
that
future
looks
like
the
future
of
work
is
ever
changing,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
left
with
this
Behemoth
building
downtown.
AY
That
really
doesn't
have
a
great
other
use,
and
we've
gone
to
all
of
this
extra
effort
to
enlarge
this
building,
put
a
lot
of
stress
on
the
businesses
and
and
then
what
what
is
it,
then
not
that
it
wouldn't
work
out,
but
I'm
just
saying
what?
If
and
then
you
can't
like
to
to
the
previous
person's
post
comment
before
you
just
can't
change
it,
you
can't
go
back,
so
that
would
be
my
biggest
concern
of
just
kind
of
making
that
forever
change.
Thank
you.
Okay.
AZ
Good
evening
my
name
is
John
tarapani
22
North
Spring
Boulevard
first
I'd
like
to
say
that
since
1984
I've
been
bringing
new
businesses
to
Tarpon,
Avenue
and
Tarpon
Springs
in
general,
and
so
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
cohatch
people
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
commission
for
requiring
the
18
parking
spaces.
The
I
think
there's
some
questions
outstanding
questions
concerning
when
they
when,
when
those
are
given
and
when
the
building
permits
are
issued
typically
on
a
site
plan.
AZ
AZ
As
far
as
and
that's
just
some
some
of
the
small
details
that
need
to
be
worked
out,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
there
was
a
request
under
your
code
to
have
a
re-hearing,
the
re,
the
re-hearing
wasn't
to
try
and
stop
cohatch.
It
was
to
make
it
more
palatable
to
the
existing
businesses
and
to
what
will
ultimately
be
more
palatable
to
cohatch
I.
Think
that
clearly,
there's
new
facts:
the
the
fact
about
the
the
off
Street
unloading.
AZ
There
was
no
nothing
on
the
site
plan
where
these
people
could
load
or
unload
it's
required.
In
your
code,
section
128.,
it's
an
off
Street
unloading,
the
clearly
the
staff
is
misinformed
on
the
library
parking
and
on
the
Forbes
parcel
I,
sat
on
the
library,
design
and
build
committee.
The
parking
for
the
library
is
parking
for
the
library
for
mothers
to
bring
their
kids
for
older
people
to
come,
get
their
books
for
you
to
go
get
a
book.
AZ
It's
not
general
purpose
parking
like
the
parking
on
Tarpon
Avenue
at
Pinellas
and
Tarpon
Avenue
like
to
parking
on
Safford
and
court,
or
in
Orange
and
Safford.
It's
library
parking.
It's
a
it's
a
it's
a
flaw
in
the
analysis,
the
the
Forbes
property.
You
sent
two
rfps
saying
that
parking
wasn't
required.
You
signed
two
contracts
to
developers
to
build,
to
build
with
no
parking
required.
AZ
I
would
say:
Mr
Salzman,
that's
as
a
construct
that
says
the
parking
and
if
you
want
to
play
semantics
with
Renee
about
vested
versus
entitled
versus
reserved
the
city
commission
as
a
policy,
multiple
City
commissions
have
said
that,
because
it
was
an
existing
building
and
they
wanted
the
building
rebuilt
that
the
parking
would
be
waived.
Impervious
surface
is,
is
grandfathered
in
Impact
fees
were
grandfathered
in
and
that
so
that
there's
two
things
there
plus
the
off
Street
unloading
I
mean
it's
just
it's
sloppy
and
so
we're
requesting
I
get
we've.
AZ
Given
you,
the
information
pursue
it
to
your
code
of
new
information
and
faulty
information,
to
request
a
re-hearing
not
to
defeat
cohatch,
but
to
make
a
better
project
for
the
city
for
the
citizens,
for
the
property
owners
for
the
merchants,
the
existing
Merchants
I've
been
like
I,
said:
I've
been
Leasing
Property
on
Tarpon
Avenue.
Since
1984..
You
know
what
my
number
one
criteria
is
on.
AZ
A
new
tenant
am
I
hurting
the
existing
tenants
that
I
have,
because
if
I
did
or
I
thought,
I
would
I
wouldn't
lease
to
them
and
that's
what
you
guys
need
to
think
about.
Are
you
bringing
in
a
new
business
at
any
cost
and
Detra
to
the
detriment
of
the
existing
businesses
and
I
can
tell
you
you
bet
your
ass.
You
are.
AK
I
know
for
a
fact
going
to
the
either
the
toy
store
or
the
factless
is
sometimes
it's
impossible.
The
parking
is
bad.
AK
My
wife
is
disabled,
so
I
use
the
handicap
parking
when
I
can,
however,
that's
full
up
and
sometimes
I
either
drop
or
offer.
We
just
reschedule
for
another
day
so
parking
down.
There
is
tight.
If
I
go
there
in
the
you
know,
parking's
full
I,
don't
go
I
go
someplace
else.
The
other
thing
is
these
people
have
brought
up
some
very
valid
points.
If
this
is
a
historic
district,
how
do
you
add
on
to
it?
AK
I,
don't
know
how
did
that
get
passed
so
with
that
yeah
y'all
need
to
address
the
parking
and
and
the
and
take
these
people's
concerns
seriously.
It's
their
business.
You
can't
add
a
business
and
put
them
out
or
diminish
their
business.
All
right.
That's
it.
Thank.
H
AI
Of
Denise
Street
Tarpon
Springs
I'm,
not
even
going
to
take
a
ton
of
time
here.
I've
already
stated.
My
concern
about
parking
did
over
with
everything
that
we've
heard.
I'm
and
I'm
probably
not
going
to
be
very
popular
with
this,
but
is
it
even
possible
to
take
the
community
planter
box
area
and
turn
that
into
a
parking
lot?
That's
just
on
ring
Street.
Do
you
know
which
one
I'm
talking
about
the
community
garden?
AI
AI
AI
AI
D
AI
AU
AO
J
Is
this,
can
you
state
your
name
and
address
okay,
he's
already
left.
A
At
this
time,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
Ms
Fosse.
Do
you
have
any
closing
comments
that
you'd
like
to
make.
AN
Just
respect
with
respect
to
the
loading
comments,
they're
they're,
within
the
smart
code,
there
are
no
separate
loading
requirements.
There
is
only
requirement
that
says
if
you're
going
to
have
a
loading
zone,
it
cannot
be
on
a
frontage
unless
it's
by
warrant,
so
the
section
that
was
being
cited
is
in
the
Land
Development
code.
This
is
under
the
purview
of
the
smart
code,
so
I
just
didn't
want
to
put
that
into
the
record.
AN
Regarding
the
Forbes
property
itself,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
reason
that
no
parking
was
being
listed
is
because
there's
an
exemption
in
the
smart
code
that
says
there's
no
parking
required
in
the
t5b
district,
so
that
is
the
origin
of
that.
To
my
knowledge,
I
could
be
wrong
about
that,
but
that's
my
understanding.
So
with
that
I'll.
AP
Thank
you
just
a
couple
remarks.
There
was
some
discussion,
of
course,
about
the
historical
preservation
and
my
client
did
go
through
the
historical
review
board
and
get
approval.
The
architect
is
here
as
well.
There
were
comments
about
the
facade.
Changing
my
understanding
is
the
facade
at
the
front
of
the
building
is
not
changing.
Yes,
there
is
an
addition
being
being
put
on
the
back
and
they
had
to
meet
all
the
historical
review
board
requirements.
AP
Certainly
there
were
also
lots
of
comments
about
size,
understand
the
concern,
although,
quite
frankly,
again,
that's
not
what
we're
here
on
tonight.
The
Florida
area
ratio
was
a
variance
that
was
approved
back
in
2021
and
there
were
no
objections
to
that
variance
when
that
hearing
was
held
and
the
I
think
Miss
Vincent
adequately
addressed
the
loading
requirement
that
there
is
no
loading
requirement
for
the
smart
code
requirements
and
again
just
the
idea
that
new
evidence
is
a
construction
methodology.
AP
As
I
stated
in
my
initial
presentation,
I,
don't
believe,
that's
new
evidence,
it's
not
a
material
fact.
It's
not
something.
That's
part
of
your
requirements
to
approve
a
site
plan,
but
certainly
my
you
know.
Client
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
Their
concern
is
with
their
neighbors,
as
well
as
their
own
building
and
I.
Think
we
adequately
covered
that
they've.
You
know
gone
back
to
their
engineer
to
take
additional
safe
safety
precautions
to
make
sure
that
there
is
not
any
ill
effects.
AP
A
Okay,
Mr
Watkins,
please.
AO
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
at
cohatch
we
love
people
and
after
people
we
we
love
old,
historic
buildings,
and
this
is
not
our
first
rodeo.
We've.
We've
done
a
lot
of
these,
our
the
oldest
building
that
we've
renovated
is
170
years
old.
We've
done
it
in
a
lot
of
jurisdictions
and
we
love
to
bring
them
back
to
life.
We
we
love
to
bring
back
the
original
materials,
the
original
architect.
Let
bring
back
the
stories
from
the
original
owners
and
let
these
buildings
speak
for
themselves.
AO
I
mean
you
all
know
what
that
building
was
before
and
what
was
done
to
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
were
inside
of
it,
but
it
was
criminal,
I'm
exaggerating,
but
it
was.
You
know
it
was
just
a
rundown
building
and
we
really
want
to
bring
that
back
to
life.
We
know
what
we're
doing
and
and
how
to
build
these
and
I.
Ask
that
you
give
us
a
chance,
we'll
work
with
you
on
the
park
and
we
we
understand
it,
and
we
fully
understand
that
I
I
sign
on
every
business.
AO
and
Tarpon
Springs
I
mean
we.
We
are
not
a
big
Corporation,
we're
a
family
owned
and
we
we
love
people
and
we
love
buildings.
We
want
to
be
a
part
of
your
community.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
to
commission
comments
now
vice
mayor
alone,.
K
K
I
mean
we
hear
people
saying
well,
my
customers
can't
park.
Well,
they
don't
provide
parking
to
their
customers
when
they
say
they
can't
park
they're
talking
about
they
can't
park
on
the
street
in
front
of
their
business
and
we're
talking
about
a
one
block
area
or
one
and
a
half
or
two
block
area.
I
guess
if,
if
you,
you
know,
extend
pasta
business
to
canals
Avenue,
so
this
is
always
consistently
forever
going
to
be
a
problem.
K
Just
people
didn't
complain,
you're
complaining
here,
because
this
is
new
to
you.
Some
of
you
don't
like
the
fact
that
they're
expanding
a
stork
building
I
frankly
have
the
same
reservations
about
that,
but
I'm
not
allowed
to
operate
on
my
personal
opinions
up
here.
I
have
to
follow
the
law
in
this
respect
anyway,
because
it
was
presented
to
me
in
that
particular
fashion.
K
So
I
think
you
need
to
consider
that
some
of
your
Viewpoint
is
coming
from
a
not
in
my
backyard
perspective
and
the
fact
that,
yes,
it's
going
to
put
more
Demand
on
parking
in
Tarpon
Springs.
Are
they
going
to
be
able
to
provide
some
additional
parking
by
leasing,
space
or
whatever
that
we
we
put
into
the
conditional
use?
Yes,
is
it
going
to
be
enough?
Probably
not
do
I
think
that
they're
personally,
that
their
occupation
is
going
to
be
as
high
as
they
think
they
are
I?
K
Actually
don't
think
so,
but
that's
my
personal
opinion.
It's
going
to
be
tough
until
we
get
more
parking
downtown
period.
What
I
haven't
heard
any
of
you
say
is
oh
great.
We
got
another
100
and
some
odd
people
shopping
in
our
downtown
eating
in
our
downtown
on
a
regular
basis.
Not
one
person
has
come
up
and
said,
I'd
be
glad
to
see
another
150
people
in
Tarpon
Springs
during
the
day
shopping
it's
or
eating,
or
you
know
basically
having
more
Commerce
in
town.
K
Because
of
that
and
and
that
to
me
is
a
little
bit
surprising,
so
I
I
don't
really
know
if
I'm
gonna
go
along
with
I
want
to
hear
the
other
Commissioners
comments
before
I
decide
whether
this
really
needs
a
re-hearing,
but
you
understand
and
I
want.
You
need
to
understand-
and
you
you
guys
know
me
by
now-
I'm
the
guy
that
checks
every
little
detail
out,
I'm
just
known
for
that.
This
is
a
procedure
where
we're
tied
into
a
specific
set
of
rules.
K
Just
like
a
judge
that
says
this
is
the
law,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
follow
and
there
is
not
a
by
the
time
it
gets
to
our
board.
There's
not
a
lot
of
leeway
that
we
have
to
do
that
to
re-hear
this
process.
To
start
it
all
up
again,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
that's
going
to
accomplish.
I
mean
you're,
talking
about
going
back
to
the
historic
board
and
saying
well,
the
historic
board
can't
can't
give
them
the
permission
to
do
this.
K
Are
you
saying
that
they
can't
purchase
the
building
that
they've
already
purchased
because
they
own
this
building?
This
isn't
a
developer
coming
in
and
saying
you
know,
I
want
to
I
want
to
maybe
do
this
if
I
can
get
all
the
permissions
they've
already
bought
this
building
they've
owned
it
for
some
time
it's
and
I
mean,
quite
frankly,
the
zone
is
a
rock.
K
The
only
other
thing
I
could
say
is
there
was
a
comment
tonight
about
insurance,
just
in
case
something
happens
because
of
the
construction
with
the
surrounding
buildings
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
was
adequately
addressed,
so
I
could
be
corrected,
but
but
anyway,
that's
my
comments.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Carr.
AB
Thanks
mayor
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
tonight
from
the
applicant
from
the
staff
from
business
owners
from
residence.
Obviously,
we
as
we're
all
aware
this
is
a
very
passionate
Community
with
a
lot
of
family
ingrained
into
our
downtowns,
with
a
lot
of
great
things
that
are
happening
in
our
downtowns.
We've
seen
a
transformation
of
Tarpon
Springs
downtown
over
the
past
20
years
that
have
significantly
gone
in
the
correct
direction:
I'm
looking
forward
to
cohatch
coming
and
to
Tarpon,
Springs
and
being
another
partner
in
Tarpon
Springs
as
a
business
in
downtown
Tarpon
Springs.
AB
Clearly,
the
thing
that
I've
been
at
talking
about
for
the
past
six
years
is
the
need
for
more
parking
in
Downtown,
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I
believe
tonight.
This
just
proves
even
further
that
the
city
needs
to
move
forward
with
an
eminent
domain
of
the
tour
property
since
he's
not
going
to
be
willing
to
sell
it
to
the
city
anytime
soon
and
it'd
be
addressed
to
move
forward
with
a
parking
garage
in
that
area.
AB
Overall,
though,
I
I'm
I,
don't
think
it's
the
fault
of
the
staff
I
I'm
not
saying
it's
that
but
I
do
think.
There's
a
flaw
in
the
parking
analysis
as
a
whole.
It
was
a
unique
approach
that
was
taken.
I
think
this
time,
one
of
the
first
times
that
they've
taken
this
approach
so
with
that
I
would
support
a
re-hearing
because
of
that
one
aspect
of
the
the
parking
analysis
under
the
analysis.
How
many
parking
spots
are
available
in.
AB
O
M
You
mayor
as
I,
listened
to
what
vice
mayor,
Craig
Luntz,
said
I'm
in
agreement
to
it.
I've
read
through
the
complaints
that
were
listed,
that
the
petition
listed
I
read
through
the
red
comments,
responses
from
staff.
M
They
all
seem
to
satisfy
my
need
for
not
going
ahead
with
a
re-hearing.
The
last
line
in
here
that
reads
impact
on
existing
downtown
businesses.
The
board
did
not
recognize
and
consider
this
as
a
that.
This
decision
has
far-reaching
impacts
on
the
existing
downtown
businesses,
and
the
ability
to
continue
to
thrive
is
appalling.
To
even
listen
to
this
board
listened
to
it
completely
unadulterated.
It
was
crazy
to
even
say
something
like
that.
We
did
think
this
through,
and
it
was
ridiculous
to
say
that.
AC
M
M
M
P
You
can't
change
that
you're,
not
always
going
to
make
decisions
that
are
going
to
make
people
happy,
and
you
know
when,
when
it
comes
to
this
historic
area
and
downtown
I,
made
sure
that
front
of
that
facade
looked
as
best
as
it
could
yeah
there's
a
vertical
modern
beam
that
runs
across
it,
but
you're,
seeing
that
across
a
lot
of
historic
buildings
just
going
up
everywhere.
P
Now,
if
it
was
solely
up
to
me,
I
would
have
had
them
go
back
to
the
historic
board
to
have
the
back
of
the
facade,
the
back
of
the
building
the
same
facade
look,
but
it
wasn't
making
a
decision
on
parking
part
of
the
transit
code.
They
didn't
have
to
provide
parking
and,
as
most
of
the
business
owners
down
here
know
and
Property
Owners,
you
didn't
have
to
provide
parking
either
and
you
more
than
likely
aren't
going
to
have
to
provide
parking
in
that
SEC
section.
P
If
you
go
to
put
an
application
based
off
this
precedent,
that's
been
set
and
just
to
show
a
hands
over
here.
How
many
of
your
businesses
have
been
here
before
when
the
Zone
was
opened
as
a
nightclub.
P
And
the
way
that
business
was
set
up
in
the
evening
may
or
may
not
affect
the
way
your
business
was
operating
at
the
time,
and
you
know
there's
food
truck
deliveries
that
are
happening
now.
There's
plenty
of
restaurants
downtown
this
this
one.
You
know
when
we
didn't
hear
one
person
come
up
here
and
say
I'm
completely
against
the
project.
P
This
is
a
precedent,
so
you
can
either
look
at
it
in
the
future
for
an
opportunity
for
yourselves,
or
this
may
be
an
opportunity
in
which
your
rent
goes
up
with
people
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
bring,
but
there
have
been
businesses
that
that
come
and
go
in
Tarpon,
Springs
I
know
it's
not
an
easy
decision,
and
you
know
the
parking's
always
going
to
be
the
issue.
I
asked
several
residents.
You
know
several
business
owners
if
the
the
tour
property
has
a
parking
garage.
P
P
P
I
see
it,
as
you
know,
an
issue
we're
going
to
address
we're
not
going
to
always
please
everyone.
Obviously
it's
been
a
precedent.
That's
been
set
that
could
work
four
against
this
city
in
the
future,
but
there
is
a
there's.
A
conditional
use
with
this
application
and
we're
gonna
have
to
see,
and
so
I
don't
think
there
was
enough
evidence
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
regarding
parking
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
you
know.
P
P
P
AB
If
I
could
marry
real,
quick,
a
couple
things
that
were
brought
up
in
this
memorandum
from
or
kind
of
concepts
for
improving
Downtown
parking,
that's
one
thing:
I
wanted
to
touch
base
on
is
Time
parking.
AB
O
Okay,
you.
A
A
Put
smiles
on
your
face.
If
you
want
to
go
to
that
kind
of
level
of
of
you
know
description,
but,
and-
and
you
know
it's
interesting
when
these
projects
come
up,
I
do
go
talk
to
people
now
this
project
came
up
before
Christmas
and
I
went
and
talked
to
one
person.
It's
got
his
pulse
on
the
entire
downtown
and
that
person
told
me
it
was
a
good
project.
A
It
was
a
good
project.
We
deferred
the
item
because
there
was
some
mix
up
in
the
schedule
and
the
and
we
brought
it
forward
to
the
beginning
of
the
year.
The
end
of
January,
then
that
same
person
I
said:
okay,
we're
going
to
have
it.
A
You
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
parking,
we're
going
to
connect
the
parking
with
his
project
come
down,
so
we
can
get
support
for
a
parking
study
and-
and
you
know,
just
try
and
get
some
attention
to
parking
on
that
and
then
I
said
you
know
and
I
asked
about
the
project.
Well,
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
Project's,
a
bad
project,
because
that
person's
been
talking
to
somebody
and
now
it's
a
bad
project
and
it's
like
you,
know,
I
understand
people
can
change
their
mind,
but
I
don't
understand
the
basis
for
changing
your
mind.
A
I
live
in
Greektown
we
bought
down
in
Greektown,
we
don't
have
a
garage.
Fortunately,
we've
got
a
couple
of
lots
that
I
was
able
to.
You
know
we
can
park
off
Street,
most
Town,
most
houses
in
Greektown,
don't
have
driveways,
they
don't
have
garages,
everybody
parks
on
the
street
when
the
Sponge
Docks
is
busy,
everybody
is
up
and
down
my
street
parking
I
don't
complain,
I
love
it.
That
means
the
town
is
doing
good.
That's
the
way
I
want
it
to
be.
The
people
are
coming
to
the
Sponge
Docks
when
I
was
downtown.
I.
A
Think
it
was
a
little
league
opening
day
this
past
weekend
right
and
then
in
the
afternoon,
I
went
to
Shakespeare
presentation
at
the
cultural
center.
I
came
out
and
actually
drove
by
the
flagship
parking
lot
at
about
1
30.,
and
that
was
I'm
talking
about
the
old
Flagship.
Now
that
parking
lot
was
less
than
half
full
and
we
had
the
car
show
going
on,
and
then
we
had
the
Wine
Walk.
That
was
starting
right
after
that,
and
that
parking
lot
was
half
full
I
ran
into
I.
A
I
called
you
right
did,
I
I
saw
you
I
spoke
in
any
way.
The
same
manager
was
there
in
the
morning.
The
parking
lot
behind
the
flagship
Bank
was
the
same
way.
It
wasn't
full.
It
wasn't.
Even
nearly
full
I
I
came
out
of
the
Shakespeare
play
a
couple
of
hours
from
I
think
it
was
maybe
three
or
four
o'clock
and
I
ran
into
our
economic
development
director
walking
up
and
down
the
street,
getting
ready
for
the
Wine
Walk.
She
too
confirmed
that
the
parking
lot
behind
the
flagship
Bank
was
not
full,
so
I
understand.
A
Oh
I
need
to
interrupt
what
I'm
saying
in
order
to
extend
our
time
by
our
rules
that
we
have
to
adjourn
by
11
o'clock,
so
I'd
like
to
have
an
extension
until
midnight.
Please.
If
I
can
motion.
H
B
A
Is
yes,
so
I
I
understand
the
issue
with
parking
and
and
I'm
I
I'm,
hoping
that
this
party,
this
parking
study,
is
going
to
shed
some
lights.
So
we
can
understand
what
the
problem
is
other
than
saying
that
we
don't
have
parking
downtown,
I'm
hoping
this
will
characterize
it
I'm,
hoping
also
that
it's
going
to
provide
a
connection,
a
way
of
interconnecting
the
Sponge
Docks
area
with
the
downtown.
A
As
far
as
creating
some
kind
of
a
path
for
a
loop
we've
looked
at
that
we
almost
had
something
going
this
past
fall,
but
that
electric
autonomous
vehicle
fell
through
in
Dunedin
that
was
scheduled
to
come
to
here
to
run
around
between
the
downtown
and
the
Sponge
Docks.
So
we're
working
on
things.
The
list
that
I
gave
you
all
tonight
that
Chief
young
passed
out
was
not
anything
that
were
you
know
that
is
on
the
is,
is
about
to
come
off
the
press
and
permits
are
going
to
be
issued.
A
Those
things
are
Concepts
and
I'm,
hoping
that
you
will
take
that
list,
and
you
will
just
you
know,
talk
among
yourselves
and
see
whether
there's
something
that
works
for
you.
If
there
were
his,
let
us
know
what
it
is.
I,
don't
you
know,
commissioner,
cars
I
don't
care
whose
idea
it
is
if
you've
got
other
ideas,
if
you've
got
a
solution
for
the
parking-
and
you
know
commissioner
Carr
mentioned
an
imminent
domain.
If
you
want
imminent
domain
on
the
tour
property,
you
did
a
petition
to
to
consider
cohatch.
A
A
So
we're
also
looking
for
Solutions
I'm,
not
a
businessman.
You
all
live
downtown
I,
don't
I
live
here,
most
of
the
time
in
City,
Hall,
plus
Greektown,
and
so
I
I.
You
know,
cohatch.
We
went
through
the
process,
I
just
wish
and
and
I
understand.
You
know
this
business
of
historic
preservation
and
things
the
the
cohatch
went
through
every
hoop
that
they
needed
to
go
through
to
get
to
where
they
are
today
and
they
didn't
argue,
they
didn't
game
it.
They
didn't
argue,
they
didn't
try
and
do
any
runs.
A
They
didn't
hear
any
double
talking
or
anything.
They
were,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
they
were
the
most
straightforward
applicant
that
I've
ever
that
we've
had
up
here
as
far
as
what
they
were
willing
to
do.
You
know
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
provide
18
spaces,
Mr
Watkins,
came
up
after
the
meeting.
The
reason
why
he
wanted
to
get
up
was
not
to
object,
but
to
say
he
can
do
that
because
he
did
that
somewhere
else.
He
had
to
do
the
same
thing
somewhere
else.
A
You
know
we'll
be
involved
in
this
I'm
sure,
knowing
the
city
manager
to
keep
tabs
on
things.
I
I
can't
answer
the
building
questions.
As
far
as
the
structural
things
you
could
have
a
boom
truck
drive
into
the
side
of
your
building
during
construction.
It's
got
nothing
to
do
with
vibratory
compaction.
It's
got
to
do
with
zero
lot.
Line
Construction
I
can't
guarantee
that
it's
just
that
that's
What
insurances
are
for,
and
we
just
have
to
wait
to
see.
A
A
I've
heard
some
arguments
tonight.
As
far
as
defectiveness
and
defective
that
you
know
I
don't
know,
I
mean
you'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
what
the
Forbes
property,
whether
it
was
an
RPD
I'm.
Sorry,
a
plan
development
approach
which
you
can
get
all
kinds
of
of
ability
to
to
not
even
comply
with
regard
to
parking.
So
I,
don't
know
what
those
all
I
know
is
that
we
had
to
deal
with
cohatches.
It
was
presented.
I
talked
to
some
people,
they
didn't
have
a
problem.
I
was
reluctant
about
the
business.
A
Initially
I
talked
to
people,
they
didn't
have
a
problem,
then
all
of
a
sudden
I
get
surprised
that
everybody's
upset
with
the
business
and
I
I.
Don't
understand
why
other
than
the
parking
in
the
parking
problem
has
been
developing
for
a
very
long
time.
Commissioner
Carr's
been
talking
about
it
for
a
very
long
time.
A
You
know
the
comp.
The
concept
of
a
of
a
parking
garage
has
been
coming
up
for
a
very
long
time.
The
city
managers
got
his
view
on
how
to
approach
that.
Commissioner,
cars
had
his
view
on
how
to
approach
that
the
previous
commission
had
their
view
on
how
to
approach
it.
The
bottom
line
is,
nothing
has
happened,
I
mean
it's,
nothing
has
happened
so
you
know
you.
You
put
a
lot
of
energy
into
this
particular
item
for
cohatch
I.
Would
you
know
I'm
not
open?
A
You
know,
put
the
same
amount
of
energy
into
telling
us
what
you
want
and
how
to
deal
with
the
parking
downtown,
not
reconsider
you
know.
So
what?
If
we
reconsider,
cohatch
and
reapprove
cohatch?
Is
that
going
to
help
the
parking?
No,
it
might
buy
you
a
percentage
difference,
maybe
five
or
ten
spot
spaces.
A
I.
Think
Ms
Fosse
even
said
that
20
parking
spaces
wouldn't
even
help.
So
what's
a
reduction
of
of
you
know
the
the
occupancy
and
reducing
the
requirement
of
cohatch
by
five?
That's
not
going
to
help
I
mean
I.
I
have
all
kinds
of
technical
stuff.
You
know
looking
at
what
the
staff
did
and
we're
talking
about
18
additional
parking
spaces,
that's
two
percent
of
the
total
Downtown
parking
and
all
that
that's
that's
great,
but
that's
not
going
to
help.
A
A
If
you
support
those
ideas,
you
tell
us
how
to
do
what
we're
proposing
to
do
and
and
by
no
means
are
they
cast
in
stone
the
parking
lot
configurations
or
just
something
that
the
city
manager
put
together
since
the
approval
in
January
he
had
the
staff
working
on
it
to
see
conceptually
how
many
parking
lots
parking
spaces
we're
talking
about.
So
you'll
still
see
me
down
there
helping
set
up
on
First
Fridays.
A
If
you
know
Corner
me
and
yell
at
me
or
whatever
you
want
to
do
so,
but
you
know
that
that's
how
I
feel
about
it.
I
wish
I
had
a
solution
for
you
tonight
anyway,
any
other
last
Thoughts
by
anybody.
Commissioner
Eisner.
Oh
yeah,
you
got
your.
M
AB
O
A
Z
O
A
Find
it
so
let
me
let
me
go
around
right
back
around
again
vice
mayor
Lunt,
do
you
see
anything
that
you
feel?
No,
commissioner,
Carr
you've
stated
something
if
you
want
to
repeat
it.
P
There
was
no
change
in
the
parking
information
that
was
provided
to
us
from
before
from
the
from
the
last
hearing,
and
so
you
know
there
may
be
emotion
out
there,
but
that's
false
hope,
and
it's
preferably
you
know
each
commissioner
can
do
what
they
want,
but
to
sit
there
and
just
do
something
as
a
grandson
now
as
you're
on
your
way
out.
It's
a
nice
Noble
thing,
but
there
was
no
new
evidence
presented.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
for
me
personally,
I,
don't
see
anything,
that's
going
to
have
an
effect
on
this
as
far
as
any
errors
or
new
information
I
appreciate
the
effort
that
Mr
Ms
Fosse
put
into
this
effort.
I
really
really
do
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
have
except
I
did
do
that
with
a
Sponge
Docks
remodeling
I
did
put
that
amount
of
money
effort
into
it
so
and
but
I
I,
just
don't
see
in
my
mind,
penalizing
cohatch
of
having
to
go
through
that
again
and
winding
up
with
some.
AA
A
Slightly
different
concept,
where
maybe
there
might
be
five
or
ten
parking
spaces
fewer
than
what
is
really
needed.
I
think
everybody
stated
here
that
they
are
supportive
or
cohatch
being
here,
I
really
think
they're
going
to
make
a
wonderful
addition
to
our
downtown
and
then
and
I
think
it
was
a
commissioner
Vice
Merlin
about
the
number
of
new
customers
in
town.
It.
AA
H
A
AO
AB
A
Okay,
if
there's
not
a
second
to
the
motion,
then
Mr
Salzman
that
ends
the
matter.
Yes,
okay,
that
ends
the
matter
for
this
evening,
I'm
hoping
that
you'll
follow
up
with
some
additional
things
that
would
benefit
the
downtown
I
would
be
eager
to
see
those,
including
anything
that
you
see
that
might
be
of
help
on
that
list.
AS
A
We're
going
to
go
to
and
Mr
Watkins
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight
with
your
team.
Thank
you,
Ms
Rubenstein,
okay,
the
arpa
update.
D
N
Finance
director,
how
are
you
doing
I
was
afraid.
I
was
going
to
get
bumped
tonight
here,
but
what
we
got
here
for
the
arpa.
We
have
the
two
spreadsheets.
You
should
see
in
front
of
you
there,
the
first
spreadsheet
yeah
that
one
there,
the
first
page
has
the
arbor
in
green.
That's
been
previously
approved,
totals
8.3
million
Down
Below.
On
that
first
front,
page
you've
got
the
proposed
arpa,
another
8.6
million.
That's
been
proposed
of
the
arpa,
and
if
you
go
to
the
second
page,
we've
got
some
new
requests
on
the
arpa.
N
We've
got
the
hospital
fire
line
at
1.5
million
and
the
Sponge
Docks
Pump
Station
discharge
of
1.3
million,
like
I,
say:
we've
got
the
proposed.
We've
got
the
approved,
we
got
the
proposed
and
we
got
the
new
request.
N
A
I
understand
you've
got
an
agenda
item
at
the
next
meeting
on
for
a
new
printing
press
yeah.
Okay,
never.
D
Again,
we
wanted
to
sometime
in
this
schedule
before
this
board
ends
bring
back
arpa
one
more
time
because
of
the
new
request
from
the
hospital
you
know
about.
What's
been
going
on
and
there'll
be
a
future
item
on
the
Sponge
Docks
Pump,
Station
drainage,
there's
gonna
be
a
future
items
to
explain
to
you
the
project
where
we're
at
and
a
whole
discussion.
D
Mr
Roberson
is
out
due
to
a
knee
surgery
that
had
come
up
so
we're
waiting
for
that.
But
we'll
have
more
explanation
of
the
expected
1.3
million.
We
may
need
and
a
whole
discussion
as
I
think
I
said
one
of
the
last
meetings
and
I
know
the
mayor
said
that
project
has
caused
me
apprehension,
since
it
was
first
brought
forward
with
a
few
with
a
with
a
pass
board.
So
we
need
to
get
the
information
on
it,
the
new
information,
so
we
are
going
to
have
an
agenda
item
on
that.
D
The
paint
grows
project
in
talking
to
Mr
Salzman,
it's
still
in
negotiation.
We
can't
put
a
price
tag
on
that
because
we're
in
negotiation
with
The
Surety,
but
there
we
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
number
that
we're
going
to
need
extra
money
for
for
that
project.
We're
almost
assuredly
there's
going
to
be
a
number,
obviously
we're
working
feverishly
to
negotiate
to
see
what
that
number
might
be
and
bring
that
back
to
you.
D
So
these
are
in
consideration,
he's
done
a
bigger,
updated
list
of
some
of
the
other
things
you've
had
proposed
and
pending
and
not
funding.
Obviously,
you
see
it
top
to
know
so
again,
everything
from
what's
been
funded.
What's
pending
these
new
items
that
have
come
forward,
we're
just
bringing
it
for
you
for
discussion
if
there's
any
further
Direction
at
this
time
on
Arbor
and
expenditures.
A
H
A
Is
is
historic,
our
fire
department
and
I
can
blame
you
all
deemed
that
it
needed
to
be
replaced
from
a
public
safety
perspective
and
he
actually
Mr
quarter
bomb
asked
to
redirect
the
one
million
dollars
that
we
had
approved
for
the
awning
to
the
purchase
of
that
and
I
and
I
suggested
to
him
that
I
would
prefer
seeing
a
new
request
because
of
the
importance
of
the
I
did
yes,
I
did
because
the
importance
of
the
awning
in
terms
of
of
being
the
precursor
to
wrapping
the
building
for
Hurricane
protection
and
stuff
anyway.
A
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
he's
very
kind,
and
he
didn't
put
my
name
in
there.
So
I'll.
You
know
if
there's
any
lightning
that
strikes
I'll
I'll
be
the
one
to
take
stat
and
then
the
other
one
was
the.
The
second
item
was
the
additional
money
for
the
Sponge
Docks
pumping
station.
A
There
was
a
value
engineering
done
on
that
that
we
could
bump
them
the
num
the
amount
down
from
about
four
point:
three
million
down
to
about
four
points:
something
million
to
save
about
three
hundred
thousand,
but
you
know
the
bigger
issue
is:
is
actually
the
impact
of
that
against
this
construction
of
that
and
installing
it
that
one
there's
two
parts
to
that
that
are
going
to
require
the
bottom
of
that
to
be
put
10
feet
into
the
ground
right
there
on
Athens,
it's
going
to
be
a
major
major
undertaking,
so
I
I'd
like
and
I
told
the
city
manager.
A
This
is
something
that
we
just
don't
keep
moving
ahead.
So
we
halted
at
60
percent
to
give
you
an
opportunity
of
what
that
impact
is,
so
you
know
going
sober
into
what
it's
going
to
involve
in
order
to
get
that
thing
done.
If
we
take
that
approach
and
also
the
cost
of
that,
so
those
are
the
two
items
and
then
Mr
Herring
put
those
in
the
context
of
everything
else
that
we've
got
and
and
the
one
thing
that
I
did
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
was
helpful
but
I
actually
I.
A
A
A
lot
of
time
when
you
yeah,
when
you
see
things
like
the
Craig
Park
Seawall
project,
which
is
basically
sidewalks
phase
two-
is
that
going
to
be
done
by
the
time
we
actually
have
to
spend
the
money
so
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
look
at
that.
A
little
more
scrutiny
as
well.
From
that
perspective,
so
I
went
through
and
put
some
check
marks.
A
The
the
fire
station
is
another
possibility,
there's
others,
but
anyway,
I
put
some
check
marks
of
of
those
that
we
potentially
wouldn't
be
able
to
spend
that
money
on
it
by
the
time
that
project
was
ready
to
be.
You
know,
actually
constructed
so
I
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
that,
but
I
was
able
to
kind
of
kind
of
recapture.
A
It
was
about
eight
million
dollars
by
doing
that,
which
puts
us
back
in
the
green
again
as
far
as
the
amount
goes
but
I'm
going
to.
Let
you
all
talk,
and-
and
maybe
that's
something
that
Mr
liquorice-
that
the
staff
might
want
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
it
from
that
yeah
and
then
refine
those
numbers
and
bring
it
back
to
us
so
and
the
hour
is
getting
late.
So
let
me
go
to
public
comments.
Are
there
anybody
here
that
wants
to
talk
about
the
arpa
funds?
R
AB
A
K
K
Yes,
before
I've
seen
it
before
we
did
the
facade
Grant,
it
was
number
two
on
their
list
or
three
I
can't
remember.
Now.
I
specifically
told
them
that
that
should
be
their
top
priority,
specifically
for
them
to
come
back
at
this
particular
juncture
and
say:
oh
now,
it's
our
top
priority
is
a
little
bit
facetious
to
me.
I
think
they
should
take
the
money
that
we
granted
them
already
and
put
it
towards.
What
they
should
have
done
in
the
first
place,
for
my
opinion,
is,
is
the
is
the
fire
panel?
K
Okay,
if
they
really
need
1.5
I
would
entertain
giving
them
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
fix
the
fire
panel
stuff.
There
were
three
major
things
that
I
can
remember.
There
was
the
facade
coverage
whatever
which
I
didn't
think
was
was
really
all
that
demandingly
necessary.
K
So
they
have
still
have
roof
leaks
unless
they
fix
them
without
without
telling
me,
which
is
probably
what
they
did
can't
imagine
they
live
with
roof
leagues
through
another
summer,
but
anyway
that
would
be
my
my
personal
take
on
that
use
the
money
we
already
gave
you.
If
you
need
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
we
could
probably
squeeze
that
out
of
arpa
I
mean
it
is
something
that
needs
to
be
done
in
the
hospital.
I
would
hate
to
see
it
burned
down,
but.
A
That
that
would
be
just
Mr
Herring
we've
got
about
four
million.
That's
not
encumbered
at
this
point
is
that
correct
of
our
profunds
correct
about
4.5
million
Okay.
So
we've
got
some
money.
A
Right,
do
you
have
anything
else?
Oh
yes,
the
so.
K
I'm
really
nervous
about
the
the
Sponge
Docks
pumping
stuff
and
so
forth.
I.
K
I
mean
I
know,
we've
talked
about
the
Vault
and
this
and
the
pumps
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
and
I
just
I'm
ripping
up
the
DOTA
Kanis
to
do
all
this,
and
it
scares
me
for
a
bunch
of
reasons
that
we've
already
discussed
I
for
the
life
of
me
personally.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
taken.
Another
look
at
from
an
engineering
perspective
entirely
or
an
approach
as
well.
I
think
we
need
a
different
approach
to
doing
that.
H
K
A
We
go
further
Chief
Young,
Chief
Scott
young.
Sorry.
Could
you
offer
anything
as
far
as
the
electrical
the
safety
panel
as
far
as
its
criticality
and
and
if
we
don't
or
if
it
doesn't
get
replaced?
What
happens.
BA
The
problem
with
the
panel
right
now
it's
outdated.
It's
not
working
correctly
when
they
built
a
new
addition
to
the
hospital
that
alarm
ties
into
the
oval
alarm.
They
don't
talk
well
to
each
other.
So
it's
setting
off
multiple
alarms,
so
we're
responding
there
quite
a
bit
at
some
point.
It
becomes
called
a
nuisance
alarm
and
it
has
to
be
fixed
or
replaced.
So
that's
where
we're
at
with
the
panel.
BA
A
Doing
we
have
here
right
now?
Yes,
okay,
for
for
everybody's
information,
a
gentleman
with
a
yellow
shirt
is
because
our
fire
system
is
down
right
now
and
he
has
to
make
rounds.
Thank
you
for
being
here,
he's
waved
at
me.
He
has
to
make
rounds
of
the
building
for
as
a
fire
watch.
So
thank
you,
commissioner.
Carr.
D
No
they've
been
if
you've
been
in
here,
they've
been
Drilling
and
drilling
they're
in
my
office,
drilling
on
on
a
bad
day
today,
with
a
lot
of
work
to
do
but
they're
Drilling
in
and
hopefully
we'll
have
it
finished,
but
we're
doing
the
extensive
we're
doing
extensive
new
alarm
system,
that's
going
to
be
Top,
Notch
and
ready
to
go
and
they've
been
drilling
for
a
month.
So.
AB
Okay,
great
you
know,
I
am
in
support
of
vice
mayor,
said
about
the
500
000
I.
Think
Advent
Health
can
put
some
money
in
from
the
parent
company
as
well
too,
into
the
investment
into
the
fire
panel.
That's
a
combination
so
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
really
care
what
they
use.
The
million
0.54
I
would
prefer
that
the
city
allocates
that
in
the
arbor
funding
and
let
them
make
the
priority
themselves
if
they
want
to
use
it
towards
the
full
fire
panel.
AB
If
they
want
to
use
it
towards
the
overhang,
if
they
use
it
towards
the
roof,
I
would
say,
put
the
three
or
four
things
down
say.
This
is
what
you
guys
can
use
it
for
you
all
use
it
for
what
you
feel
is
best
I.
Do
think
it's
important
that
the
city
continue
their
commitment
to
providing
some
arbit
funding
there,
because
it's
obviously
a
huge
piece
of
art.
It's
a
big
part
of
our
community
right.
AB
We
all
could
use
it
at
any
time
and
I
mean
we
never
know
when
you're
going
to
need
to
use
it.
So
I
would
support
another
500
000
to
Advent
Health
North
Pinellas
for
the
for
the
fire
panel.
Now
the
Sponge
Docks
pumping
station
I
would
support
the
additional
funds
going
there
too.
Obviously,
it
sounds
like
there's
more
things
going
on
I'm,
not
aware
of
something
has
to
be
done
at
the
intersection
with
the
tidal
floods.
I,
don't
again,
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
work.
AB
It
goes
in
that
intersection
of
Athens
and
DOTA
canis,
so
all
I
know
is
something
has
to
be
done
there
in
Mountain
engineer
I'm
not
going
to
tell
anybody
how
it
needs
to
be
done,
but
if
more
funding
is
needed,
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
opportunity
to
use
more
funding
out
of
our
funds
as
well
too,
but
if
I
looking
at
it
tonight,
I
would
say
I'm
happy
to
support
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
hospital
to
show
our
partnership
to
seeing
that
hospital.
Improve
and
I.
AB
AB
AB
We've
got
some
of
the
best
water
in
Florida,
that's
made
from
our
plant,
but
I
think
it's
it's
something
that
we
need
to
do
as
an
investment
for
our
residents
and
for
our
businesses
to
upgrade
our
infrastructure
of
moving
the
water
through
our
city
and
a
million
dollars.
A
million
and
a
half
is
something
I
think
that
would
help
move
that,
along
sooner
I,
would
support
a
million
dollars
to
the
fire
department,
as
proposed
by
the
finance
director
and
then
there's
also
a
buffer
for
some
additional
funds.
AB
In
case
something
comes
up
for
additional
cost
with
the
project,
that's
on
Gross
and
anything
any
other
items
that
may
come
up
as
well
too,
that
need
to
be
I
guess
you
would
call
a
buffer
for
some
additional
projects,
so
tonight
I.
Think
it's
a
good
idea
to
support
water
lines,
support
the
hospital
and
support
the
fire
department.
M
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I'm
in
agreement
with
vice
mayor
I,
don't
I
don't
really
care
what
they
use.
The
million
for
as
well
I
think
it
would
be
better
suited
if
they
use
the
billion
for
the
fire
system
if
they
want
another
500
000,
which
I
don't
understand
why
they
wouldn't
I
would
really
consider
you
know.
I
would
definitely
consider
that
to
make
them
whole
on
that
and
not
do.
The
awning
I
also
am
extremely
concerned
about
the
concept
of
the
Sponge
Docks
pumping
station
I.
M
Think
we
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
there
somehow
or
other
I
didn't
particularly
care
for
Bob
Robertson's
presentation
on
you
know
it
came
back,
it
could
be
four
million
five
million
and
we
have
to
consider
three
different
ones.
That
was
a
little
crazy,
so
I
I'm
not
looking
to
go
ahead
with
that,
but
we
also
have
some
I
would
like
to
keep
some
reserve
of
the
arpa
fund
to
be
fiscally
responsible,
for
we
don't
know,
what's
happening
with
the
gross
Avenue
here
we
don't
know
still
what's
happening
with
sea
breeze.
M
M
There
there
there's
just
so
many
things
that
I
went
through
the
whole
list
of
all
of
the
projects.
The
project
list,
which
I
do
want
to
speak
about
as
well.
So
you
know
the
project
list
is
extensive
and
you
know
we
may
need
to
use
that
for
other
things,
so
I
first
thought
they
wanted
2.6
million
dollars
or
2.5
I,
think
out
of
12
million
dollars
that
we
were
rewarded.
That's
a
bit
much
for
one
location,.
M
So
that's
where
I'm
at
you
know
we
also
have
the
the
purchases,
the
land
purchases
we
have.
You
know
we're
talking
about
the
the.
M
P
I
know:
we've
already
approved
the
1
million
for
the
awning,
but
maybe
the
hospital
needs
to
come
back
to
us
and
say
Hey.
You
know
we
can
only
do
two
out
of
three
or
you
know,
use
split
the
money
up
between
some
of
these
things,
but
I
would
hate
to
see
that
we
fixed
the
awning,
which
you
know
I
know
it,
helps
people
coming
in
and
out
the
building
and
not
address
the
fire
panel
issue
or
in
any
leaks
up
top,
but
just
that's
the
way.
P
I
I
look
at
it
and
hurts
to
see
that
this
wire
tripping
issues
cost
1.5
million
dollars.
You
know,
as
far
as
the
other
approved
arpa
funds
I
like
the
way
they
look
as
of
right
now.
I
definitely
want
to
keep
that
cyber
security
for
the
water
and
sewer
infrastructure.
I,
don't
want
to
be
one
of
those
cities
on
National
Television.
P
P
It's
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
this
commission
will
be
able
to
handle
all
three
of
them
in
a
certain
amount
of
time,
but
we
can
tackle
one.
We
can.
You
know
open
the
doorway
for
others
and
and
go
from
there
so
and
Craig
Park
see
well
I'm
I'm,
All,
About,
Big,
Capital,
Improvement
projects,
I
I
understand
it's
going
to
inconvenience
the
residents,
but
if
we
don't
do
them
at
some
point,
when's
it
going
to
get
done.
P
K
Yeah
I'm
sorry
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention
one
more
thing:
tucked
down
there
in
the
miscellaneous
part
of
this
sheet
is
bio
dredging,
oh
yeah,
part
of
our
code
that
we
maintain
the
bio.
Some
of
these
things
aren't
required
by
code
to
be
done,
but
Bayou
dredging
is
one
of
them,
we're
in
our
code
to
maintain
our
waterways.
It
has
not
been
done,
I'm
not
talking
about
the
the
Basin
or
the
cuts,
the
outer
Cuts
I'm,
talking
about
the
inner
cuts
and.
A
D
N
D
K
D
D
And
it's
not,
we
have
to
bite
the
bull
and
do
it
and
it's
budgeted
for
the
penny
of
2024..
We
put
it
in
the
ARF
and
back
because
there's
an
option.
If
we
wanted
to
to
go
to
use
that
money
and
go.
K
A
It
would
be
a
lot
easier
because
the
dredged
area
that
the
permits
we
we
obtain
would
be
a
maintenance
stretch
who
wouldn't
be
like.
We
would
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
would
have
been
dredged
once
so.
We
could
do
those
I
just
don't
know
where
they
are,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
the
cuts
between
the
islands
because
they
weren't
done
to
begin
with.
So,
if
you're
talking
about
a
preliminary
time
frame,
I,
don't
think
it'd
be
much
of
an
effort
to
re
to
obtain
a
dredge.
A
K
K
K
Years,
yes,
I
know
the
last
time
it
was
completely
ignored
the
charter,
the
rules,
the
study
was
done.
Nothing
was
done
with
the
study.
It
sat
on
a
table,
nobody
sent
it
to
the
County
Administrator.
There
was
no
discussion.
At
least
that
was
noted
of
the
commission.
No
minutes
no
recommendations.
Zero
was
done.
We
cannot
make
that
mistake
again.
I
will
not
let
that
happen
again.
Okay,
we
are
going
to
do
it
right.
A
AB
It
yes,
I've
got
a
quick
comment
on
the
dredging
portion
if
I
could
step
in.
So
it's
easy
a
lot
of
times
to
see
like
a
road
that
needs
to
be
repaired
because
you're
driving
down
every
day.
AB
But
then
it's
you,
don't
necessarily
see
that
the
dredging
needs
to
be
done
in
the
bayous
and
the
rivers
unless
you're
out
there
in
low
tide
or
unless
you're
out
there
on
a
boat,
and
so
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
dredging
needs
to
be
done,
and
it
should
have
been
done
years
ago
in
our
bayous
and
in
our
outer
cuts
of
our
Rivers.
We've
had
residents
come
and
ask
for
it
before
too
that
they're
saying
hey
in
our
backyards.
We
can't
get
out
of
our
houses
on
the
on
the
water.
AB
We
pay
these
exorbitant
taxes
granted
they're,
not
getting
more
services
that
I
don't
live
on.
The
water
I
would
like
to
one
day
that
they're
paying
these
exorbitant
taxes,
but
they're
not
necessarily
getting
more
benefit
for
those
additional
taxes
that
they're
paying
for
right,
so
they're,
getting
the
same
benefit
as
other
residents
that
don't
live
in
the
water.
AB
With
that
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
move
the
penny
fund
up,
I'm,
sorry
to
move
the
funding
into
our
funding
and
then,
if
that
can't
get
filled,
that
can
be
moved
and
the
penny
fund
can
be
reallocated
to
it.
If
we
can't
do
it,
timely
I
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
push
that
up
and
try
to
move,
get
some
movement
and
then
dredging
aspect
of
things.
M
P
I
just
think
it's
priority
issues.
We've
got
to
sit
there
and
decide.
You
know
it's
if,
when
the
bodies
get
dredged
and
I
understand
that
the
channel
ways
leading
to
and
from
the
main
river
and
to
the
bayous,
but
you
know
we
got
to
see
what
what
the
cost
benefit
would
be
to
dredging
those
bodies.
I
mean,
is
it
going
to
have
more
people
out
there,
skiing
and,
and
you
know,
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
I'm.
It's.
A
Right,
let's
get
a
hold
of
ourselves
here,
a
second
and
the
whole
idea
behind
the
ARP.
Everything
that
everybody's
talking
about
there's
any
question
needs
to
be
done,
needs
to
be
done
and
I
think
what
you're
saying
vice
mayor
Lund
is
an
issue
of
when
it's
going
to
be
done
and
you'd
like
to
see
some
things
done
sooner
than
where
they're
scheduled
right
now.
K
K
It
well
yeah,
I
I,
understand
that
I'm
just
using
that
as
a
miscellaneous
example,
but
it
is
in
our
Charter
that
these
waterways
must
be
maintained.
There
is
no
air
founder,
but
that's
not
a
may
be
maintained
or
if
you
think
it
should
be
maintained,
it's
a
must
be
maintained.
That's
why
I'm
saying
there's
no
choice.
A
Right,
the
only
thing
I
was
going
to
suggest
is
one.
There
seems
to
be
some
interest
in
out
reallocating
500
000
for
the
hospital.
A
I
still
think
that,
even
with
what
you're
saying
I
think
the
city
manager
needs
to
take
a
look
at
these
and
look
at
when
we
can
in
realistically
encumber
these
fonts
to
particular
projects,
so
they
can
be
spent
by
2026,
correct
and
then
that
could
possibly
draw
in
and
then
from
there
we
could
determine
what
the
priorities
are
along
the
lines
of
what
you're
saying
and
I'm
not
suggesting
anything
more
than
that.
As
far
as
any
discussion
of
whether
something
is
is
required
or
anything
I
agree
with
you,
I
don't
issue.
A
AA
H
O
A
K
AB
Mayor
I
just
want
to
bring
up
the
water
lines,
one
more
time.
I
know
I've
harped
on
this,
since
the
arpa
funds
became
available,
it's
truly
something
that,
with
our
age
infrastructure,
that
it
needs
to
be
a
priority
of
our
city.
Our
city
is
well
over
100
years
old
and
our
infrastructure
can
follow
that
along
the
lines
too.
AB
We
have
multiple
contracts
in
place
with
different
companies
that
can
install
water
lines.
Those
could
break
ground
very
quickly
and
the
city
manager
can
confirm
or
deny,
but
with
our
contracts
already
in
place.
So
I
do
just
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
that.
Our
water
is
safe,
getting
to
the
homes
based
on
what
our
water
department
has
tested,
but
I
do
think.
Having
an
upgrade
upgraded
areas
of
our
city
is
something
that
should
be
a
top
priority
for
our
for
our
residents.
A
We've
got
to
go
to
public
comments.
I
believe
is
that
correct?
Okay?
So
let
me
stop
here,
for
that.
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
this
item?
Mr
jump?
Are
there
any
public
comments.
O
A
Okay,
what
I
I
would
ask
the
commission
if
we
could
have
at
least
a
motion
to
approve
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
hospital
to
really
eliminate
a
requirement
of
whether
it's
for
a
an
awning
or
let
them
use
the
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
whatever
they
want
and
then
also
for
this
to
be
re
done.
I!
Think
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
these
projects
and
then
come
back
to
the
commission
when
we
got
more
time
to.
K
Establish
that
there's
no
time
element
on
this,
that's
just
money,
I
mean
it
goes
out.
The
penny
fund
goes
out
for.
K
N
H
H
D
Z
AB
O
O
K
A
H
M
Let
me
ask
a
question:
does
do
I
have
to
make
my
motion
because
we've
made
a
motion
for
the
million
to
be
on
the
awning?
Do
I
have
to
change
that
to
utilize
it
towards
the
fire.
M
P
M
What
I
like
that
you
asked?
Is
there
no
further
questions
the.
BB
Yes,
so
this
item
is
the
rebid
or
re-solicitation
of
the
City
Attorney
Services
that
you
have
before
you.
We
put
that
out
again.
BB
We
only
received
one
proposal
back,
and
that
was
a
joint
proposal
from
person
Cohen
Mooney,
Fernandez
and
Jackson
PA,
along
with
Eunice
Salzman,
Jensen
PA,
and
what
I
have
done
is
just
kind
of
highlight
in
the
backup
on
some
of
the
pieces
of
the
proposal
for
your
consideration
and
recommendation.
Z
Z
The
only
thing
I
I
would
tell
the
commission
is
after
we
had
the
last
vote.
Regina
and
I
discussed
the
possibility
of
coming
forward
with
both
firms
because
of
the
issues
that
you
raised.
So
we
believe
that,
based
on
what
we've
proposed
that
it
meets
your
your
requirements,
in
essence,
we
would
continue
doing
what
we're
currently
doing
for
the
city.
Of
course,
it
would
depend
on
if
you
want
to
change
your
meeting
nights.
If
you
go
to
the
first
and
third,
then
Regina
would
sit
here.
A
Okay,
but
we'll
deal
with
the
first
and
third
and
the
second
and
fourth
another
time.
So
let
me
go
to
public
comments.
Are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
this
Mr
jumper?
Are
there
any
public,
remote
access
comments
or
Mr
races,
who's
ever
up
there?
There
is
no
one
in
the
queue
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
Mr
races,.
H
K
BC
M
Just
a
quick
question:
in
the
event
you,
you
have
a
mutual
contract
now,
should
you
decide
you
don't
want
to
do
this
anymore?
Does
that
break
the
contract,
for
both
does?
Do
you
replace
one
and
not
the
other
I
mean
for
whatever
reason,
I'm
just
asking
that
right.
BC
Tracks
are
going
to
be
into
independent
of
each
other,
and
that
serves
two
purposes.
One
is
for
any
conflict
of
interest,
because
the
way
that
we
have
it
styled
is
for
Mr
Salzman
to
serve
as
conflict
Council
when
there
would
be
a
conflict
of
interest
for
the
same
attorney
to,
for
instance,
for
your
code
enforcement
board.
The
same
attorney
cannot
be
prosecuting
the
cases
before
the
code
enforcement
board
and
then
also
advising
the
board
and,
and
your
board
does
need
to
have
an
attorney
for
that
purpose.
M
BC
M
O
A
Okay,
I
only
have
one
question:
I
think
maybe
somebody's
talked
to
you
about
it
before
the
go-to
attorney
attorney
is
a
Clearinghouse.
For
example.
Right
now,
I
asked
the
City
attorney,
which
attorney
do
I
talk
to
for
this
and
you'll
either
say
you
know
maybe
Ms
Kardash
or
Mr
Salzman
I
prefer
for
that
to
be
one
of
you
two.
It
would
be
the
initial
call
from
a
commissioner
and
then
you
can
make
that
determination
as
far
litigation
it'd
be
obvious.
You
know
maybe
some
other
issues
it
may
be.
Z
The
the
only
caveat
that
I
would
provide
is
that
there
are
certain
things
that
may
just
be
something
Regina's
doing
or,
for
example,
a
contract
that
that
the
manager
has
given
me
to
look
at
or
that
could
turn
into
litigation.
That's
why
I've
been
dealing
with
some
of
these
issues,
so
the
the
only
caveat
would
be
to
make
sure
that
we
know
who's
handling
that
matter,
but
we
can
keep
you
updated
on
that.
A
Yeah,
for
example,
the
the
flag
issue
came
up
tonight
right,
remember
and
I.
X
Z
Z
A
I'd,
like
I'd
like
for
you
to
right
now,
you
know
I
also
had
the
issue
once
of
asking
or
discussing
something
in
our
two
former
attorneys
had
a
disagreement
on
disagreed
with
each
other
which
didn't
help
us.
You
know
if
those
two
disagreed.
What's
that,
what
are
we
going
to
do
so?
I'd
like
to
you
know
again,
I'd
like
the
name
of
if
it's
Miss,
Kardashian's,
fine,
I,
guess
and
she
could
say
you
need
to
talk
to
Mr
salesman
about
it.
A
Z
A
Z
Z
The
areas
of
responsibility
I
mean
there
was
other
things.
For
example,
I
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
you
have
a
current
contract
for
somebody
for
labor
and
employment.
It's
also
what
I
do
and
there's
some
things
that
Regina
and
I
have
talked
about
Manuel's
handbooks,
some
policies
that
we
want
to
look
at
so
I
want
to.
You
know
some
of
that
will
have
to
divide.
A
So
we
would
establish
it
by
resolution
at
some
future
date.
Correct!
That's
fine
with
me!
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
please
commission,.
A
BB
O
A
B
B
A
P
AA
A
Yes,
mayor
matakiotis,
yes,
thank
you
both
have.
O
D
A
Got
to
gut
it
out
with
the
rest
of
it
may
I
have
a
motion
to
extend
a
meeting
to
whatever
you
would.
A
Yes,
okay,
take
a
break
award,
number
I'm,
sorry
award
this
award
file,
number
23047,
which
is
the
Greek
doubt
Greektown
traditional
cultural
property
preservation
and
place
making
valuation
consultant
Ms.
BB
Janina
Lewis
procurement,
Services
director
I'm,
not
the
subject
matter
expert
on
this
particular
consultant
study,
but
I
can
tell
you
we
put
out
an
RFP
on
this
particular
item.
We
received
two
responses:
we
evaluated
them
and
selected
the
most
highly
ranked
proposal,
and
that's
what
you
have
before
you.
A
T
But
for
this
I'm
here,
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
first
of
all
we're.
Finally,
at
this
point,
I
I
saw
who
the
two
respondents-
the
bids
were
both
fine
agencies
and
I.
Think,
although
some
of
us
have
been
thinking,
the
other
one
I
think
stantec
with
their
local
offices,
is
an
excellent
choice.
T
My
only
concern
which
I
have
already
raised
with
them
is
some
of
the
the
timing,
the
timeline
because
we're
dealing
here
not
with
a
generic
Community
but
with
a
very
unique
Community
with
its
own
rhythms,
such
as
Holy
Week,
where
you
can't
have
anything
happen,
you
know,
or
the
great
annual
Exodus
to
Greece.
T
So
we
just
want
to
be
knowledgeable
about
that
and
set
up
our
meetings
in
conjunction
with
with
that
timeline,
so
we
might
want
to
start
out
with
a
bang
and
then
they'll
have
some
time
to
sit
around
and
formulate
things
and
come
back
with
us
again
in
the
fall
when
everyone's
back
from
The
Exodus
but
anyway.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
all
the
consideration
you've
given
to
this
project.
AW
BD
Good
evening
here
to
life
is
514
Ashland
Avenue
Ashley
my
hand
was
actually
raised
up
from
the
previous
thing,
but
somehow
it
didn't
get
recognized
before,
but
I
have
to
Court
Mr
caballos
and
the
city
in
regards
to
this
particular
item.
Moving
forward,
it's
important
to
preserve
and
set
this
area
as
a
National
Historic
District
as
it
should
be
recognized,
and
one
thing
I
would
like
to
add
in
your
closing
statement
mayor
on
the
cohatch.
AA
BD
And
done
so
I
just
want
to
correct
you
briefly
that
a
lot
has
been
done
to
rectify
some
of
that.
BD
I
would,
as
you
mentioned,
allow
the
attorneys
to
decide
what
they
would
handle,
but
I
would
also
maybe
suggest
that
they
between
themselves
decide
how
they
would
like
to
best
handle
City
commission
meetings
and
come
back
to
you
as
to
whether
the
2-4
or
the
1-3
works
best.
And
then
at
that
point
you
can
either
keep
the
meetings
as
there
or
change
them
to
another
date,
but
we
have
done
it
before
and
I
think
it.
BD
A
A
D
A
A
A
BB
Yes
good
evening
again
good
morning,
so
basically.
BB
Architect,
services
for
the
cops
and
kids
facility.
We
received
three
proposals.
We
did
the
evaluations.
We
also
brought
all
three
in
for
interviews
to
further
gain
more
insight
into
their
abilities
and
what
you
have
before
you
is
the
one
that
we
thought
was
the
most
highly
suited
for
the
job.
The
plan
is
to
do
this
in
two
phases:
one,
the
first
phase
will
be
kind
of
a
site,
selection
and
scoping
that
out
and
then
the
second
part
will
be
the
actual
design
phase.
A
D
D
What
we
want
to
look
at
and
Achieve
when
we
build
the
building
and
have
an
idea
of
of
where
we
proceed
with
the
whole
conflict
of
today,
proceeding
with
some
different
things
on
there
and
some
different
options,
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
to
we'll
have
a
lot
of
things
to
look
at
as
far
as
the
land.
Obviously
there's
some
other
ownerships
this
piece
of
land
we
might
want
to
use
that
area.
They
have
to
be
a
good
ground
study,
because
that
is
a
propensity
for
sinkhole
area.
D
A
O
AB
Carr
yeah
I
just
think
this
is
a
great
money
spent
to
invest
into
our
future
generations
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
maybe
some
of
our
underserved
areas
of
Tarpon
Springs.
H
P
I,
don't
think
the
Pickle
bar
Court
should
go
Dorset,
Park
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
be
utilized
in
the
right
manner
or
people
going
out
there.
That's
just
my
personal
opinion,
I
think
there's
other
spots
for
Pokeball
courts,
but
look
looking
forward
to
the
design
of
the
the
building
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
or
can't,
but
some
type
of
pool,
maybe
for
that
area
would
be
nice,
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there,
but
other
than
that
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
it.
Thank
you,
yeah.
A
I,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
an
access
off
mirrors,
Avenue
as
well.
Is
that
right
for
this
yeah
so
to
be
accessing
off
Mears
Avenue
as
well?
It's
one.
R
P
B
D
That
yeah
this
is
this
is
some
exciting
news
that
we
didn't
expect
to
remember.
We
talked
before
budget
time
about
positions
and
position.
We
want
to
look
forward
to
the
next
three
to
five
years.
Obviously,
both
the
police
and
fire
were
involved.
D
This
is
some
great
news,
because
again
we
still
have
a
grants,
ride
and
everything
else,
but
we
sure
are
doing
a
good
job
of
getting
grounds
I'll.
Let
the
fire
chief
talk
about
our
successful
gaining
of
the
safer
Grant,
which
is
going
to
give
us
that
Personnel
we
were
going
to
look
at
to
have
to
budget
possibly
beginning
next
year,
the
year
after
it's
anticipated
in
the
next
two
or
three
years.
We
need
to
add
people
and
also
give
you.
D
BA
Scott
young
fire
chief,
so
last
year
we
applied
for
the
safer
Grant
through
the
homeland,
security
and
FEMA.
We
just
got
news
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
we
were
accepted
for
the
grant
we
put
in
for
a
three
additional
5
firefighters
on
the
grant.
The
grant
originally
was
going
to
pay.
If
you
were
awarded
75
percent
payment
for
first
two
years,
35
percent
the
third
year
we
got
notified
that
they
waived
that
fee.
BA
It's
now
100
for
three
years,
so
this
was
a
total
Grant
of
928
thousand
dollars
over
three
years,
which
will
put
three
firefighters
on
the
job.
After
that,
the
city
would
fund
the
firefighters
moving
forward
after
the
three
years,
so
we're
very
excited
about
it.
This
is
the
second
time
we've
applied
for
it.
We've
got
it
the
first
time
about
four
years
ago
and
five
years
ago,
now,
we've
gotten
it
again,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
I
hope
you
approve
it.
H
A
Remote
access
public
comments,
Mr
races,
there's
no
one
in
the
queue
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner,
comments.
Vice
mayor
lawn
anything.
K
AB
This
is
great
news:
Chief
young,
thank
you
for
your
you
and
your
team
and
city
manager
for
fighting
for
these
grants.
This
is
obviously
a
way
to
fund
another
I
forget
what
you
call
it,
but
another
three
individuals
for
the
fire
department
that
we
don't
have
to
tack
on
to
the
city's
General
funds.
So
thank
you
for
your
your
follow
through
with
this
and
I,
think
it's
great
news.
AB
Hopefully
it
makes
the
front
page
of
the
beacon
that
the
city
got
Federal
funding
for
almost
a
million
dollars
to
fund
three
more
firefighters
in
paramedics.
A
A
M
Can
I
say
except
congratulations?
This
is
great
news,
money's
great
to
have
and
I
hope
you
have
good
luck
in
placing
good
people.
That's
I
know
the
hardest
part.
It's
not
probably
the
toughest
part.
K
P
A
BA
So
put
us
getting
close
to
the
capita
the
NFPA
likes
to
have
four
on
each
engine,
we're
so
pretty
close.
What
this
is
going
to
help
us
do
is
it's
going
to
allow
me
to
try
to
put
another
unit
in
service
at
our
main
station,
so
I'll
have
two
units
running
out
of
there
for
EMS
calls
again
that'll
help
bring
the
it'll,
be
the
Rescue
Unit.
That's
on
order.
A
What
about
those
other
that
decision
that
County
needs
to
do
to
that's.
BA
Coming
up
again
here
in
the
next
few
months,
when
we
start
talking
budgets
with
them
and
I'll,
try
to
do
another
three
with
them.
Our
number
is
still
about
where
we,
it
was
last
year,
so
we'll
see
what
they
say
this
year,
but
we'll
try
for
another
three
there
too,
okay.
A
Thank
you,
I
always
enjoy
adding
more
Public
Safety
to
that
city
Motion.
In
a
second
motion.
B
O
O
A
Yes,
okay,
we've
got
an
addendum
and
this
is
the
Direction
on
the
Tim
group,
Journal
contractors,
attorney's
response
to
contract
Amendment
Mr
Rodriguez,
Mr
sungaris.
Both
of
you
are
here
for
this
item.
A
Let
me
Mr
Salzman,
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
this
and
and
just
listen
to
what
Mr
salzman's
got
to
say
and
then
we'll
go
to
you.
So.
Z
Obviously,
you
see
the
letter
and
we've
had
some
conversations
concerning
the
letter
and
the
major
issue
that
we're
here
tonight
on
is
really
the
the
increase
in
the
amount
of
potential
liquidated
damages
as
a
penalty,
with
the
understanding
that
our
intent
here
is
try
to
get
the
project
done
to
get
everybody
moving
forward
and
to
sign
this
amendment
it
and
based
on
the
discussions
we
had
at
the
meeting
in
which
this
was
increased.
Z
It's
my
recommendation
from
a
legal
perspective
to
to
go
back
to
the
original
language
of
the
contract
on
the
liquidated
damages.
It's
my
understanding
that,
if
that
is
agreed
to
by
the
board
that
the
amendment
will
be
signed
and
that
we
can
get
things
moving
forward
to
try
to
get
this
project
completed.
So
from
a
perspective
of
looking
at
it
from
a
litigation
issue,
looking
at
it
as
trying
to
get
the
project
done,
it
would
be
my
recommendation
to
the
board
that
we
just
go
through
those
terms.
A
Okay,
Ms
Lewis,
if
you
could
answer
I,
think
you're
the
one
who
injected
at
the
last
hearing
what
was
the
liquid
data
damage
daily
rate?
Do
you
recall
what
that
is?
There's
300.
BB
A
A
At
this
time,
okay,
commissioner
comments
vice
mayor
long
anything.
K
L
AB
Z
M
As
you
know,
I
didn't
vote
to
have
this
go
ahead,
so
I'm
not
fond
of
this
as
well.
This
thing
should
have
been
completed
in
December
should
have
been
completed.
Then
again,
there
was
an
extension
now,
if
Contracting,
if
you
can't
agree
to
June
1st,
then
there's
some
reason
of
that.
He
or
they
must
know,
no
know
something
we
don't
know,
and
that
concerns
me
if
and
I'll
just
say
this
if
he
was
so
comfortable
and
confident
that
he's
going
to
get
it
done
it
wouldn't
matter.
M
If
we
put
a
ten
thousand
dollar
a
day
thing
penalty
on
it.
So
to
me,
I
don't
agree
with
it.
I'll
go
along
with
it,
but
I
got
a
feeling
that
the
egg
is
going
to
be
on
the
face
of
this
board,
because
there's
got
to
be
something
that
comes
up
the
whole
first
week
after
we
had
our
meeting.
He
wasn't
there.
Working
and
I
didn't
see
him
working
yesterday
today.
M
P
P
You
can
help
explain
why
maybe
you
know
maybe
the
reduction
or,
if
there's
something
that
you
may
see,
that
may
not
be
enough.
That
may
not
be
your
fault
that
could
extend
past
the
first
June
1st
I
wouldn't
mind
hearing
it,
but
we
want
this
project
done,
and
this
guy
he's
come
here
with
a
firm
telling
us
right
away
from
a
decision
that
you
know
happened
fast,
that
he
made
up
not
have
seen
right
away
and
I'm
willing
to
go
down
to
the
original
liquid
data.
P
Damages
I
really
want
to
see
the
project
done,
I
want
everybody
to,
you,
know,
be
able
to
move
forward
and
just
see
what
happens
and
I,
don't
think,
maybe
stressing
him
out
or
the
contract.
You
know
the
contractor
or
the
the
project
deadline
is
going
to
help
fix
this
issue,
so
I
really
like
to
get
reduced
and
let's
just
move
forward.
M
Still
want
to
add
this
just
so
that
you
all
know,
as
the
gentleman
earlier
spoke
at
the
public
hearing,
there's
a
tremendous
concern
on
people
on
the
Block
and
not
just
one
I
I,
know
of
at
least
12
or
15
people
that
will
not
tie
into
this,
because
they
have
no
confidence
that
this
project
is
going
to
go
smooth
yet
we're
letting
it
drag
on,
possibly
through
June
1st,
with
no
retribution
if
things
go
astray,
having
a
300
some
odd
dollar
penalty
is
nothing
in
a
in
a
a
bit
of
this
size
having
it
even
a
thousand
dollar
a
day
is
not
a
big
deal.
M
M
M
K
You
know
I'm
I'm,
just
rereading
it
to
make
this
a
little
bit
fresh.
So
I
tend
to
agree
with
you
that
Florida
law
is
clear.
That
liquidated
damages
are
not
meant
to
be
Penal,
it's
happened,
many
many
cases
you
don't
have
to
cite
them
to
me.
I
read
through
them,
however,
I'm
not
convinced
in
this
case
that
liquidated
damages
in
the
amount
of
a
thousand
dollars
a
day
is
penal
at
all,
so
I'm
I
I'm
reading
through
this
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
all
right.
A
AL
AA
AL
Z
The
only
thing
I
would
remind
the
board
is
a
couple
things
number
one.
There
are
a
few.
There
are
changes
that
the
city
has
made.
That
is
added
some
issues
here.
Okay,
the
second
thing
is:
if
you
wanted
to
move
forward
the
the
other
way,
we
would
have
to
declare
that
there
we'd
have
to
notify
him.
There's
a
default.
A
Okay,
so
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second
did
you
want
to
make
it.
Commissioner,
Carr
you
have
the
language
unless
go.
AB
Ahead,
I'm
fine,
with
making
a
motion
Mary
make
a
motion
to.
AB
P
I
would
just
ask
the
the
contractor:
please
do
your
best,
we're
counting
on
you.
We
know
your
your
name's
on
the
line
too,
and
we
just
want
the
best
for
talent.
So
thank.
BE
A
Need
that
way
you
can
move
forward
right
where
we
need
to
actually
act
on
this
and
I
think
whatever
we
don't
need
to
really
say
anything
more.
If,
if
you
feel
strongly
about
it,
ask
your
attorney
to
send
you
a
letter
or
send
your
own
letter
into
City
Hall
to
all
the
Commissioners,
so
I'd
like
to
move
on
with
this
evening
and
and
and
roll
call.
Please.
K
BE
A
R
AB
I
was
at
Touch
of
shark
this
weekend
in
front
of
the
library
there's
a
lot
of
great
staff
that
put
a
lot
of
time
into
that
from
the
different
departments,
city
manager.
If
you
could
please
express
that
to
the
staff
I
think
they
all
did
a
great
job.
I
know
it's
on
the
weekend
and
most
of
them
don't
work.
M
M
Our
weekly
updates
on
this
on
the
progress
I
wish
on
number
41.
M
M
M
All
of
the
comments
like
you
know,
the
percentages
were
changed,
but
the
final
completion
dates
still
have
designed.
Kickoff
January
23.,
we're
way
past
it
and
there's
been
no
design
and
that's
all
three:
that's
41,
42
and
43..
So
what's
a
sense
of
changing
and
updating
the
percentages,
if
you
didn't
change
the
date
when
it's
supposed
to
be
launched,
so
to
me
this
is
looking
like
well,
I
have
to
get
a
report
out
for
the
week.
M
P
If
this
board
can
collectively
agree
to,
let
the
city
manager
write
a
letter
to
Pinellas
County
and
it's
Park
division
to
ask
to
have
parking
fees
waived
for
Tarpon
Springs
residents
at
Howard
Park
and
then,
if
not
Tarpon,
Springs
residents
at
least
Saint
Petersburg
College
Tarpon
Springs
campus
students
and
or
Tarpon
Springs
High
School
students
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
try
to
get
these
young
kids
a
you
know
an
area
to
hang
out
like
we
did
growing
up
without
having
to
pay
five
dollars
for
their
in
their
own
hometown.
P
So
just
hoping
to
see.
If
maybe
we
can
get
some
to
break
away
with
that
with
the
with
the
the
accounting,
because
I
think
that'd
be
a
big
effort
and
the
Saint
Nicholas
Orthodox
Church,
the
parish
council
will
be
having
a
meeting
on
Thursday
and
one
of
the
topics
will
be
a
very
minimal
celebration.
P
No
aerial
displays
you
know,
things
are
being
worked
out
that
way,
it
can
be
presented
in
a
safe,
confident
manner
for
the
sport
to
look
at
and
consider,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
a
heads
up
regarding
that
and
as
things
come
along,
so
thank
you.
Yeah.
A
A
You
know
this
past
weekend
was
really
busy
in
town.
It's
the
way
it
should
be
and
I
understand
where
the
businesses
are
coming
from
and
everything
and-
and
we
just
have
to
continue
working
to
that.
In
fact,
let's
see
if
we
get
another
petition
as
far
as
what
their
interest
would
be
as
far
as
parking
and
how
to
move
ahead
with
that.
A
So
I
appreciate
the
commission
kind
of
staying
with
it
tonight
and
kind
of
working
through
that
process
and
I
really
appreciated
the
residents
and
how
they
conducted
themselves
and
working
through
that
and
making
sure
that
I
know
it
took
a
long
time.
But
for
something
like
this,
it
we
needed
to
actually
provide
as
much
time
as
needed
to
let
the
residents
have
a
say
and
also
to
understand
what
the
issues
are
and
the
issues
parking
so
and
I
appreciate
it.
Mr,
Watkins
and
his
team.