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A
Okay,
tonight
is
a
follow-up
from
the
last
time.
Last
time
we
gave
city
manager,
of
course,
some
policy
direction.
It
may
have
been
some
broad
strokes,
but
it's
an
art
and
and
now
the
science
begins
with
mr
la
course
taking
that
policy
and
converting
it
into
dollars
and
cents,
and
that's
what
we've
got
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
the
meeting
over
at
this
point
to
city
manage
la
course.
Thank.
D
D
We
have
done
a
great
job
in
the
two
work
sessions
that
we've
had
to
get
an
idea
in
your
direction
where
we
want
to
go.
Obviously
the
scope
of
everything
we
have
here
is
going
to
take
longer
than
tonight
and
and
we'll
take
well
into
the
rest
of
the
year
and
next
year.
The
emphasis
is,
we
don't
have
to
finish
everything
tonight.
There
are
some
things
we
need
to
get
done
before
the
budget's
placed,
and
that's
what
I'm
going
to
mainly
concentrate
on
tonight.
D
D
We
need
to
make
tonight
get
some
more
input
from
the
board
in
this
session
of
where
to
go,
to
prepare
the
final
document
that
will
go
to
the
two
public
readings
on
september,
6th
and
21st
and
I'll
begin
where
we're
going
to
start
is
somewhere
that
a
lot
of
times
the
commission
doesn't
have
the
advantage
of
a
work
session
because
the
work
sessions
sometime
end
the
beginning
august.
Usually
the
last
thing
we
do
is
we're
preparing.
The
budget
are
the
salaries,
because
we
need
to
see
what
monies
are
available.
D
We
try
to
get
a
feel
as
close
as
we
can.
What
the
other
cities
are
doing.
Obviously
we
don't
know
for
sure,
but
we've
got
our
eyes
and
ears
open
and
are
watching
what's
going
on,
so
people
ask
well.
Why
do
you
do
that
late?
Well,
you
know
we
want
to
have
all
the
information
together
before
we
bring
this
back
to
you.
D
The
one
thing
that
is
brought
to
the
commission-
and
it's
usually
brought
to
the
commission
at
the
end
of
august,
is
is
the
salary
structure,
because
that
has
to
be
adopted
by
resolute.
That's
not
it's
adopted
in
the
budget,
but
you
have
to
adopt
these
things,
I'm
bringing
to
you
by
resolution.
It's
usually
done
at
a
regular
commission
meeting.
So
usually
this
is
talked
about
and
discussed
at
that
regular
meeting.
D
We
have
the
advantage,
although
we
have
a
short
turnover
time
to
discuss
these
tonight
and
possibly
we've
reserved
tomorrow
morning
up
until
noon
for
the
final
agenda
to
make
some
adjustments.
If
there
are
any
to
this
and
you
get
another
shot
for
the
final
vote
of
the
resolution
tomorrow
night
to
pass
these
things,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
and
make
some
decisions.
I
need
to
add
to
this
because
when
you
get
to
the
end,
there's
there's
the
portion
about
new
positions,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about
that.
A
D
D
Yes,
okay,
tuesday
night's
the
resolution
vote
thanks.
We
need
to
fit
anything
that
we
hear
from
you.
We
need
to
fix,
we've
got
till
about
noon
tomorrow
or
we
can
get
it
to
you
late,
but
I
know
you
don't
like
things
late
so
so
the
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
is
the
you
should
have
in
front
of.
We
tried
to
get
copies
of
the
main
things
in
front
of
you.
It's
talking
about
the
salary
and
classification
plan
amendments
and
pay
increases.
D
So
the
the
ranges
again
and
the
whole
concept
of
this
document
is
is
dealing
with
retention.
I
think
the
theme
of
this
this
year
is
retention.
D
We
talked
to
this
board
a
little
bit
about
the
salaries
and
we
originally
had
proposed
a
five
percent
raise
in
dealing
with
this
and
talking
with
this
board
the
work
session.
There
was
a
talk
of
still
because
of
all
that's
going
on
in
the
economy,
an
extra
bump
to
the
lower
paid
employees.
D
What
you
have
here
is
is
the
first
attempt
at
that
we
did
many.
We
did
several
variations.
We
did
some
of
them
based
on
commissioner
coulius's
email
to
us.
We
did
some
variations.
We
were
looking
for
a
formula
that
we
could
incorporate
within
the
present
budget.
We
have
and
not
pull
money
from
other
sources.
D
Somewhere
around,
I
think,
let
me
see
where
I've
got
here.
It
is
the
number
of
people
who
got
a
two
percent
inc.
The
two
percent
extra
increase
that
increased-
that
was,
that
was
48
of
the
lowest
paid
employees.
48
employees
got
the
extra
2
another
90
employees
got
the
extra
one
percent
and
it
left
117
full-time
employees
that
got
the
5
the
extra
the
cost
for
those
the
costs
with
those
were,
were
general
fund,
35,
799
and
water,
and
sewer
18
000,
and
then
various
smaller
rates.
D
For,
like
the
vehicle
maintenance,
marina
fund,
it
was
a
total
of
62
thousand
dollars
to
bring
forward
these
rays
and
and
ron
who,
as
you
know,
is
not
here
tonight,
which
is
a
little
scary.
The
first
budget
meeting
I've
ever
done
without
ron,
and
I
got
practice
today
with
a
budget
advisor,
so
I
somehow
got
through
it,
but
ron's,
usually
the
guru
who
knows
everything,
but
he
was
able
to
find
that
money
within
the
regular
budget.
D
So
you
didn't
have
to
touch
any
of
the
funds
that
you
had
a
lot
of
it's
through
the
positions
and
and
by
the
way
we
do
have
the
update
of
open
positions
that
fluctuates
every
week,
but
you've
got
a
copy.
Hopefully
that's
on
your
dice
of
the
present
new
positions,
so
that's
funded.
In
fact,
everything
you
see
in
the
beginning
that
I
talked
to
you
about
is
funded
in
the
budget
and
did
not
subtract
any
of
the
monies
that
I
that
I
told
you
before
that
were
discretionary
money
for
the
board
of
commissioners.
D
D
The
next
segment
of
this
that,
as
we
go
through,
are,
are
a
lot
of
different
things
of
regrading
positions
for
several
reasons:
either
the
positions
have
taken
on
more
responsibility,
they're
competitive
within
the
other
cities
and
the
capability
of
being
stolen
from
from
other
cities.
There's
a
lot
of
different
reasons:
we've
had
the
last
two
budgets,
we've
kind
of
we've
kind
of
taken
them
almost
like
we
did
when
we
talked
about
the
new
positions
that
we
wanted,
we
kind
of
looked
at
over
three
years.
D
D
We
have
every
department
head
who's
done.
One
of
these.
If
you
want
further
explanation
of
them,
but
believe
me
they've
gone
through
a
lot
of
scrutiny
and
brought
forward
only
the
ones
that
that
really
thought
the
need
was,
as
you
go
down
them,
a
lot
of
them
are
in
are
in
water
and
sewer.
D
Obviously,
that's
one
of
the
most
competitive
with
licenses
and
stuff.
You
see
the
openings
on
the
opening
pages,
that
we
got
it's
the
most
opening
it's
the
most
competitive
and
they
did
some
of
their
workers
last
year
to
raise
up
to
try
to
attract,
and,
of
course,
after
you
attract
them,
you
have
to
keep
the
employees
so
the
first
segment
of
them.
You
see
a
lot
a
lot
of
theirs.
Then
you
have
a
segment
of
public
works
which
includes
heavy
equipment
operators
which
are
the
most
in
demand
to
operate
those
heavy
equipment.
D
So
that's
in
great
demand
and
and
job
duties
and
he's
out
there
tom's
out
there.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
those,
it
was
finance's
turn
finance
has
been
looking
for
last
couple
years,
with
some
increased
responsibilities
on
the
position.
In
fact,
several
of
these
positions,
if
you
look
at
the
cost,
aren't
a
great
cost,
because
some
of
those
workers
right
now
are
getting
lead
worker
paid
because
of
the
extra
duties
they're
doing
outside
the
job.
D
So
we've
reclassified
the
jobs
we've
added
the
duties
in
that
they're
doing
and
the
appropriate
raise
on.
So,
where
you
look
and
you'll
see,
we
got
a
few
of
these
and
they're
only
really
getting
two
percent.
That's
because
they're
counting
in
they'll
lose
the
five
percent,
lead
worker
pay
and
that's
incorporated
into
the
seven
percent
or
what
you
see
in
there.
So
it's
a
smaller
increase,
but
these
are
duties
that
are
not
going
to
go
away.
D
That's
probably
one
of
the
most
stressful
stressful
jobs
that
you
can
do
and
it's
very
hard
for
people
to
master
it
and
be
able
to
keep
their
wits
and
if
they
have
to
lose
their
wits,
they'll
go
to
the
places
that
pay
higher
to
lose
their
wits
at.
So
that's
when
we've
looked
at
and
studied
very
hard,
the
chief
has
studied
that
very
hard
and
we're
bringing
that
one
forward
to
you
and
we
go
towards
the
end.
Our
theater
operations,
people
their
duties,
have
completely
changed.
D
We
zoom
with
all
the
things
they're
doing
they,
both
of
them
mark
and
mike's
duties,
have
drastically
changed,
so
we're
fi,
we're
doing
job
descriptions
and
new
grades
and
upgradium
to
account
for
what
they
do
and
again
suzanne's
here
for
there.
For,
for
that,
and
I'm
going
to
stop
there
because
there's
one
thing
missing,
usually
when
we
bring
this
forward
to
you
on
the
last
meeting
about,
we
also
have
the
new
positions
in
there
and
we'll
be
talking
about
the
new
positions
later
so
for
right.
D
D
They
are
here
and-
and
let's
stop
right
here
before
we
get
into
to
get
into
the
other
things
and
and
deal
with
this
again,
we'll
be
coming
for
you
for
the
vote
on
tuesday
night
for
the
resolution
that
has
to
be
done
to
perform
these.
So
we've
got
some
time
between
now
and
tuesday
for
any
further
questions
you
may
have
after
tonight,
but
I'll
open
it
up
with
the
department's
heads
here
for
your
for
any
questions
you
might
have
on
these.
Let.
A
Me
let
me
go
ahead
and
just
start
I've
known
mr
la
course
for
a
long
time,
even
as
police
chief-
and
I
know
it's
painful
when
he
wants
to
give
money
up.
A
I
use
another
word
in
describing
him
today,
but
but
I
know
that
he
works
hard
to
try
and
stay
within
whatever
our
our
budget
is
as
far
as
personnel
goes
and,
and
so
I'm
I'm
I'm
comfortable,
and
I
had
conversations
with
him
today
as
far
as
the
various
positions
and
and
the
rationale
behind
them.
So
let
me
just
go
down
the
line
with
our
commissioners
vice
mayor
lon,
do
you
have
any.
F
D
D
Tell
it
where
it
was,
but
I
know
again
I
know
all
these
were
done
within
the
in
the
grades
of
there,
so
they'll
they'll
be
they'll,
be
looking
if
they
can
find
his
figure
on
that.
A
While
we're
waiting
is
there
any
other
comment
that
you
have.
A
Is
there
anything
else
while
we're
waiting
for
the
no
okay
I'm
going
to,
let
them
continue
looking
and
if
you
don't
mind,
just
to
move
the
meeting
along
I'll
I'll
go
to
commissioner
carr
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you
vice
mayor
lump
when
the
information
is
available.
Thank
you.
I.
E
Had
the
same
question
that
you
had
vice
mayor
line
and
then
also
I
mean
in
the
aspect
of
this-
we're
in
a
inflationary
time
that
I've
never
seen
in
my
lifetime,
we've
got
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with.
What's
going
on
prices
from
gas,
the
groceries
to
everything
else
has
gone
up
like
crazy.
So
it's
not
just
a
retention.
I
think
it's
really
just
providing
living
wage
to
all
of
our
workers
regardless.
E
At
the
end
of
the
day,
though
the
city
manager
and
department
heads,
I
know
you
all
have
looked
at
this
plenty
of
time.
I'm
happy
to
support
this,
the
the
few
that
you
first
brought
up.
It's
not
very
much
in
cost,
but
I
would
I'm
out
of
curiosity.
I
would
like
to
understand
what
the
total
regrade
impact
would
be
across
the
board.
G
The
first
three
percent
increases
are
not
really
much
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
and,
as
I
agree
with
commissioner
carr,
also
that
we're
in
a
unique
time
frame
not
just
in
his
lifetime,
but
in
my
lifetime
as
well.
So
I
I'd
also
just
like
to
know
where
we're
going
to
make
how
much
it
is
and
and
where
we're
getting
the
money
from,
is
my
big
thing
other
than
that,
I'm
going
to
support
it.
B
B
Someone
is
who
has
a
grade.
Three
pay
is
the
same
pay
range,
let's
say
if
they're
in
finance
or
in
the
water
department,
yes,
okay,
and
with
these
regrades,
the
increase
they're,
also
they're,
also
able
to
get
the
addition
on
the
annual
wage
increase.
That's
going
to
be
the
three
percent,
yes,
okay
or
the.
D
A
45
000
is
what
was
the
answer
for
the
regrade
question
that
you're
right,
45
000.,
that's.
A
F
C
Yeah,
let
me
specify
with
him
if
he
meant
just
the
general
fund
or
the
total
city,
so
the
enterprise.
E
Mark,
okay,
the
the
other
idea
is
it:
it
increases
the
the
ability
to
go
higher
too.
It
doesn't
necessarily
say
they're
going
to
be
making
yes
50
to
75
000..
It
just
gives
them
a
chance
to
get
to
that
over
the
next
three
four
five
years,
because
they'll
max
out,
if
they're
in
grade
three
they'll
max
out
at
that's
a
bad
example,
okay
grade
four
they'll
max
out
at
39
000,
but
they
move
to
grade
six
or
seven.
Then
they
can
max
out
at
45
or
43.
and.
D
F
My
whole
thing
was,
I
mean
we
got.
We
got
a
nice
little
bump
from
taxes
this
year
in
our
general
fund
and
stuff,
like
that,
and
I
don't
know
it
averaged
out
to
12
or
something
like
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
living
within
our
means.
I
I
do
believe
that
we
ought
to
regrade
where,
where
it's
necessary
and
that
additional
bump
is
definitely
necessary
in
these
times,
so
I
just
wasn't
aware
of
what
the
total
cost
to
the
and
we'll
have
our
budget
would
be
in
entirely.
D
D
That's
why
you
know
not
to
not
to
down
what
ron
does,
but
that
it
wasn't
a
great.
It
wasn't
a
big
picture
where
ron
had
to
had
to
work.
He
still
had
to
work
hard,
but
but,
as
you
see,
those
positions
going,
unpaid
and
stuff
that
paid
for
that
paid
for
a
lot
of
the
ability
to
do
this
and
again
it
eliminates
the
people
who
get
it
that
we're
doing
lead
worker
pay,
the
lead
worker
pay
goes
away,
so
it's
almost
a
wash
you
take
it
from
five
percent
lead
the
five
percent
there.
D
So
some
of
the
people
on
here
are
only
really
getting
a
two
percent
extra
raise
for
the
grade.
If
you're
talking
about
in
the
paycheck,
it's
only
some
of
them
only
two
percent,
some
of
them
are
up
to
ten
or
or
more
so
they're,
not
big
raises.
I.
A
I
think
the
the
employees,
or
at
least
the
ones
that
have
been
here
a
while,
have
lived
through
2008
and
we're
we're
living
in
in
a
time
where
the
revenue
is
coming
in
at
a
pretty
significant
rate.
I
don't
think
historically,
this
place
is
evid
is
going
to
keep
up
the
country.
Just
can't
can't
keep
up
this
pace
of
higher
taxes
and
we're
not
alone
the
rest
of
the
cities
are
the
same
way.
A
F
A
And
and
that
this
means
it
translates
to
services
that
need
to
be
done,
work
that
needs
to
be
done
and
has
direct
effect
on
residents
as
well,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
keep
those
services
going
and,
as
I
said,
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
effort
putting
to
this
this
year,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
now.
Let
me
ask
the
other
question:
is
there
any
is?
Are
all
the
commissioners
fine
with
what
you
see
here?
Do
we
need
to
discuss
everything,
because
this
is
going
to
go
into
the
resolution?
Is
that
correct?
D
A
D
So
we
will
end
this.
We
end
this
memo
tuesday
night
with
positions.
So
that's
the
next
thing
we
need
to
discuss.
Do
you
have
on
the
dyess
there
a
form
that
says
funds
worksheet
in
front
of
you?
It
should
be
in
the
back
of
also,
but
I
just
thought
it'd
be
easier
to
look
at
this.
D
So
the
missing
piece-
and
I
want
to
call
attention
there-
there
there's
three
things:
one
of
one
of
them's
not
really
related
to
the
salaries
we're
talking
about,
but
it's
related
to
what
you
do,
the
the
638
0311
that
is
not
committed.
Yet,
whereas
everything
I've
told
you
so
far,
it
was
found
within
the
budget
to
do
to
do
any
of
these.
Next
things
we're
going
to
have
to
go
into
that
money
that
you
have
that
can
be
used
for
anything.
D
It
could
be
used
as
the
budget
advisory
board
said,
to
put
in
reserve
and
and
see
how
things
go,
it
can
go
in
honest
unassigned
money
on
undedicated
funds
in
your
budget
for
a
later
time
can
be
used
for
the
matters
we're
going
to
discuss
personnel
wise.
It
can
be
used
for
projects.
This
is,
this
is
probably
the
biggest
number
of
discretionary
funds
for
the
commission.
That
they've
seen
is
because
of
the
tax
increase,
but
two
of
the
thing.
Besides,
you
know
the
decision
of
the
reduction
of
millage,
which
is
subtracting
23.
D
000
from
that
there
is
two
things
that
we
need
to
talk
about
tonight
and
then
finalize
on
tuesday.
The
one
is
the
thoughts
of
the
board
about
the
new
positions.
I
gave
you
the
positions
remember
last
year,
those
you
most
of
you
were
either
in
the
audience
or
were
on
the
board.
Last
year
we
had
a
wish
list
for
the
next
one
to
three
four
years
of
positions
that
was
needed
in
the
future.
D
What
I
tried
to
give
to
you
was
the
the
six
or
seven.
I
think
we
ended
up
with
seven
positions
that
if
you
were
going
to
fund
positions
this
year,
that
these
would
be
the
top
priority.
I
explained
to
you
why
I
had
police
instead
of
fire,
because
I
think
they've
got
a.
They
got
a
great
90,
plus
percent
chance
of
getting
their
three
people
funded
by
the
county
coming
in
this
next
year.
So,
that's
why
you
see
police
instead
of
fire,
their
grants,
they're
out
there
for
police.
D
D
We
talked
about
this
a
while
back
those
were
the
two
neighborhoods
to
start.
I
think
the
next
two
neighborhoods,
when
we
do
that,
are
going
to
be
the
neighborhood
to
the
east
of
city
hall
and
the
fruit
salad
streets
and
then
after
that,
because
when,
if
you
look
at
it,
we're
talking
about
some
of
our
oldest
areas
of
town,
so
so
we
can
do
that
with
the
people
we
got
and
do
it.
But
it's
a
slow.
D
It's
a
slow
process
and
we've
heard
from
this
board
about
the
increased
activity
of
of
public
works
needed,
even
even
if
all
their
positions
are
filled,
we've
they've
got
a
lot
on
their
plate,
so
the
priority
of
whether
it's
funded
this
year
or
next
year,
we'll
still
keep
all
of
our
initiatives
going.
It's
just
the
time
and
what
we
can
get
done
depends
on
manpower.
Of
course,
covet
took
a
lot
of
work
time
away
from
us,
so
we're
behind,
but
we
could
go
the
the
grant
rider
project
coordinator.
D
Obviously,
when
we
get
to
the
the
two
on
here
we're
talking
about
all
the
projects,
I
think
one
of
the
we
have
the
realization
there's
a
lot
of
more
grant.
We've
been
very
successful,
the
grants
without
this
position
and
the
initial
position
last
year
that
was
really
pressed
on
was
just
the
grants.
Writer
and,
as
I
told
you
in
a
previous
meeting,
we
a
grant
just
the
grant
writer
won't
help
us
we're
going
to
need.
D
If
we
go
after
these
additional
grants,
we
need
somebody
who
can
write
the
grant
can
can
administer
it
and
can
assist
with
the
project
being
implemented,
which
is
kind
of
a
higher
pay
scale.
So
that's
why
that
is
of
importance
up
there,
and
so
it's
mainly
police
officer,
public
works
and
the
project
administrative
grant.
Writer
positions,
we've
got
them
all
broken
out.
We've
got
what
the
total
of
the
general
fund
that
would
come
for
that
later.
D
So
it's
for
discussion,
this
board,
on
which
one
to
use
we
also
there
should
be
a
sheet
somewhere
that
talks
about
a
couple
positions
in
water
and
sewer.
That's
completely,
it
says
new
position
requests
if
you
have
that
on
one
of
your
things,
but
we're
here
to
talk
about
their
utilities,
operations,
specialist,
water
service
worker.
These
are
two
positions
that
we
had
several
years
ago.
D
D
Those
two
positions
are
are
out
of
the
general
fund
and
water
and
sewer
and
again
we
have
public
services
here
to
talk
about
those
two,
the
those
two
positions
don't
affect
your
your
money
that
you
have
at
top,
but
but
these
positions
that
we're
talking
about
here
would
affect
it
and
what
you
have
to
consider
also
when
you're
thinking
about
these
positions
is
something
that
we
kind
of
warned
you
about
last
week,
the
position
of
where
we're
falling
behind
for
fire
and
police
because
of
the
contracts
that
are
up
this
year,
most
places
have
three
years
contracts,
they're
staggered.
D
We
know
we've
already
seen.
Some
of
them
like
tampa
come
to
effect,
and
we
know
the
ones
who
negotiate
now,
there's
going
to
be
big
raises,
and
because
of
that,
you
have
the
threat
of
losing
your
officers
in
this
last
year
of
our
contract
plus
you're,
going
to
have
a
bigger
burden
next
next
august,
when
we're
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
fire
and
police
contract.
D
So
the
request
was
brought
forward
about
some
consideration
from
some
additional
money
outside
of
the
contract,
to
try
to
ease
this
gap
and
get
us
to
the
next
contract
negotiation.
I've,
given
you
a
figure
and
again
I
don't
think
they're,
both
in
the
same
place.
Fire
and
police
are
both
in
the
same
boat
about
some
of
these
contracts.
That's
going
to
be
have
very
big
raised
in
it,
so
I
don't
think
you
do
something
for
one
and
not
the
other.
D
We
priced
it
out
separately,
but
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
the
total
and
if
you
look
at
the
total,
if
you
were
to
give
them
an
extra
one
percent
outside
the
contract,
an
extra
two
percent
extra
three
percent.
There
is
the
figure
that
you
have
so
in
combinations
with
deciding
on
the
positions
on
if
you're
going
to
reduce
the
millage
rate-
and
this
that's
all
going
into
that
638
thousand
dollar
six
638
that
we
have
so
tonight's
night.
D
We
need
to
discuss
all
those
and
get
the
feeling
the
majority
of
the
board
which
you
want
to
go
forward
with
and
which
you
don't
want
to
go
in
a
little
bit
of
an
open
discussion
about
that.
That's
that's
the
biggest
decision
tonight
and
then
that
will
complete
my
memo
to
you,
tuesday
night,
with
the
new
positions
where
we
are
asking
for.
A
Okay,
let
me
let
me
get
a
little
clarification
for
everyone.
The
461
thousand
is
for
what
we
see
in
this
memorandum,
just
above
that
exactly.
A
And
then
the
police
and
fire
adjustments.
If
we
go
to
the
3
percent,
the
total
would
be
221
000,
and
then
you
would
add
that
to
the
461
right,
yes,
and
that
would
take
us
up
to
the
600,
which
is
the
surplus
that
I'm
not
a
surplus,
but
what
we
would
have
in
addition
to
what
we
expected
to
get
before.
We
started
in
the
budget
process.
A
And
that
came
that
additional
money
was
an
estimate
that
came
from
the
property
appraiser's
office,
okay,
okay,
so
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
explain
just
a
little
more
was
on
the
police
on
fire.
The
three
percent
that
you
see
is
is
in
addition
to
what
the
schedule
is
already
shown
in
the
contracts,
for
example
the
police
department.
What's
it
called
the
wga,
the
regular
wage.
A
And
this
three
percent
would
be
an
addition,
so
the
increase
the
general
wage
increase
at
gwi
yeah.
B
A
Now
that
two
percent
is
and
we're
in
our
third
year
of
the
three
year
contract
and
there's
a
you
know,
there's
a
history
on
that,
but
the
police
union
came
and
spoke
to
mr
la
course
and
myself
about
this,
and
this
is
the
result
of
the
one
two
and
three
percent
they
had
requested,
the
three
percent,
which
would
make
it
a
total
of
five
percent,
the
firefighter
union.
I
don't
know
if
chief
young
is
chief
young
years.
I
think
it's
about
4.9
this
year.
A
D
And
it's
actually
because
they
structured
the
conference,
the
the
contract's
different,
the
police
took
a
lot
of
money
on
the
front
end
where
the
fire
department
just
spread
out
four:
nine:
four:
nine,
four
nine
they
took
a
little
higher
on
the
front
end
to
catch
them
up
and
then
went
lower
in
there
they're
equal
they're
equal.
But
when
you
see
well,
why
is
one
getting
this
and
one
getting
that
over
the
three
years?
They're
two
equitable
contracts,
but
so
so
it'd
be
an
equitable
number
you
give
to
each
of
them.
D
You
wouldn't
have
split
it
up.
It's
just
the
way
that
each
of
them
structured
the
contract
in
a
different
way.
A
Okay,
let
me
start
with
vice
mayor
lunt,.
F
Okay,
this
question
is
probably
more
for
chief
young
than
anything
else.
The
civilian
position
is
for
a
digital
evidence,
technician.
F
Okay,
so
this
is
to
work
with
the
new
sheriff's.
Well,
really,.
G
To
catalog
our
body-worn
camera
videos
and
in-car
cameras,
and
I
think
you.
C
E
F
F
F
D
Yes,
duties
will
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
yeah
we'll
be
able
to
film
we're
gonna.
Actually,
the
last
couple
of
months
we've
been
getting.
A
very
large
amount
of
application
seems
like
the
job
opportunities
are
starting
to
present
themselves
again,
so
I
I
believe,
I'm
pretty.
D
F
Okay
and
the
grant
writing
position,
which
I
truly
think
we
really
need,
especially
if
we're
going
to
start
taking
a
look
at
what
we're
doing
with
the
woodcomb
and
so
forth.
That's
a
it's
a
big
project
whose
department
does
that
fall
under
it's
going
to
fall
under.
E
Thanks
mary
tom,
I
need
to
talk
to
you
also,
sir.
E
Real
quick,
so
the
the
grant
I'm
in
support
of
this,
because
it's
also
project
coordination.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
those
two
tied
together
with
additional
responsibility,
not
just
grant
writing
but
also
project,
managing
those
grants
that
we
received
and
making
sure
they're
followed
through
and
completed.
So
I'm
supported
that
again,
it's
24
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
general
fund.
E
I
do
know
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
the
impact
the
water
and
sewer
fund
as
well
too,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
some
rate
based
on
the
rates
that
that
should
be
fine
with
that
tom,
real
quick.
So
you
mentioned
about
the
public
works
position.
You
have
three
positions
here:
requested
one
was
roads
and
streets.
I
think
that
was
one
that
mark
was
talking
about
where
it's
like
a
blitz
crew,
where
they
go
out
and
pull
old
street
signs
or
things
along
those
lines
or
trim
areas
that
are
overgrown.
D
E
And
what
is
the
target
just
to
keep
the
city
uplifted
right?
It's
not
like.
E
E
From
two
years
ago,
probably
still
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
spend
because
of
the
staffing
level,
so
yeah
okay
makes
sense.
I
I
am,
I
mean
I'm
not
a
huge
fan
of
adding
additional
positions,
but
I
think
these
are
pertinent
positions
that
we
need
to
add.
We've
seen
an
increase
in
our
resident
numbers.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
add
police
positions
as
well
too.
These
are
all
these
was
seven
positions.
E
I
don't
like
a
better
word
to
play
with
here,
but
I
do
think
these
are
all
positions
that
are
valid,
that
we
should
add
in
this
budget
season
going
to
are
we
looking
for
some
type
of
information
about
the
police
and
fire
too
there?
Okay,
so
looking
at
this,
I
mean
when
I
just
rough
numbers.
If
I
do
the
two
percent
that
pretty
much
takes
us
to
the
six
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars
of
the
633,
that
we
have
available
right
mark.
E
A
I
mean
the
budget's
not
final,
and
this
is
kind
of
again
a
policy
issue
that
the
city
manager
is
given
some
direction
and
then
he
has
to
go
in
and
basically
I
don't
want
to
say.
I
hate
the
term,
find
the
money
but
make
certain.
A
D
And
you
go
back
into
budget,
you
look
at
some
things
that
could
maybe
in
some
departments
that
could
go
next
year.
Obviously,
there's
a
police
and
fire
we'd
go
into
there.
If
there's
anything
that
can
wait,
any
other
things
to
readjust
and
talk
to
them
and
if
it's
in
excess,
then
then
and
the
board
directs
we
go
back
in
and
bring
to
you
by
the
end
of
the
budget.
We
bring
you
where
we
found
that
that
money.
D
If
you
want
like
we've
done
when
we
get
to
the
projects
and
stuff
like
we
found
the
money
for
the
projects,
you
know,
if
you
go
over,
we
would
go
back
and
find
the
money.
We
would
find
the
money
to
to
to
finance
that,
and
I
don't
think
the
difference,
the
difference
we're
talking
about
you
know
maybe
70
000
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
think
that's
a.
I
don't
think
that
would
be
very
hard
for
the
magician
when
he
gets
back
to
find
ron.
You
know
I
think
he
could
find.
E
I'll
just
I'll
come
out,
it
doesn't
matter
me
two
to
three
percent.
I
think
we
should
do
two,
because
I
think
that
would
reflect
it
was
it
takes
it
to
six
point:
nine
for
the
fire
and
five
around
two
four
point:
five
for
the
police
is
that
right,
but
if,
if
the
board
wants
to
go
three,
I'm
have
to
support
three
as
well
too.
E
I'm
just
looking
at
the
numbers
here.
I
think
two
is
sufficient.
I
think
three
is
over
and
beyond
what
we
need
to
do
and
I
think
they'll
be
grateful
for
it.
They've
worked
their
tails
off
they've
had
a
hard
time
over
there
in
covid.
That's
like
I've
said
during
the
last
union
contract
to
be
a
police
officer.
Right
now
is
a
very
difficult
time
still
in
the
political
environment
that
we
have
as
our
country.
E
E
I
can't
give
you
the
exact
number,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars,
maybe
that
we
would
look
at
and
then
look
at
using
the
rest
of
the
funds
for
either
projects
or
salary
increases
like
we're
looking
at
here
for
added
positions.
So,
in
my
opinion,
I
do
believe
we
need
to
drop
the
millage
rate
to
equal
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars.
E
E
But
to
me
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
drop
the
millage
rate,
because
it's
not
just
our
city
employees
who
are
hurting
it's
also
our
residents,
who
are
hurting
with
inflationary
aspects.
What
are
other
ways
that
we
can
help
with
that,
and
I
think
that's
that's
just
my
opinion
on
it.
So
thank
you.
A
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
in
the
end
vice
maryland
as
far
as
the
one
two
three
percent.
But
let's
go
ahead
and
go
to
commissioner
eisner.
G
G
G
Manager
and
the
board,
I
was
looking
for
six
officers.
If
that
helps
answer
your
question
in
a
bad
way.
It
does
yes,
okay,
so
we
already
negotiated
before
I
got
to
speak.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
G
When
commissioner
coulius
and
I
were
in
flc
this
past
week,
we
walked
around
the
exhibits
and
there
were
people
that
I
was
speaking
to
and
there
was
a
situation
where
I
was
speaking
about
how
much
we
wanted
and
needed
a
grant
writer,
and
I
was
proposed-
which
I
don't
have
the
information.
G
I
apologize
with
me
right
now,
but
there
were
a
number
of
us,
a
number
of
people
that
were
presenting
that
we
don't
really
need
a
full-time
grant
writer
that
they
do
that
for
you,
and
I
don't
have
that
information
with
me,
not
to
say
that
we
don't
need
it.
We
do
need
it,
but
they're
telling
us
that
or
told
me
that
they
do
that
for
you
free
of
charge.
G
So
I
still
want
to
investigate
that
before
we
go.
You
know
further
and
hire
somebody
full-time,
because
theirs
would
not
be
with
benefits
and
ours
would
be
with
full-time
benefits.
G
G
But
it's
it
looks
like
it's
only
forty
thousand
dollars
because
we
have
the
it's
a
correct
number
of
608
and
we
have
638,
so
we
have
30
extra,
so
we'd
only
be
looking
for
40
000.
The
way
I
see
it.
So
that's
that's
the
way,
I'm
kind
of
like
I
said.
If
if
we
have
to
go
with
three
percent,
I
do
believe
they
deserve
it.
G
I
do
see
this
is
a
unique
economy
and
you
know
not
that
we
caused
this
to
happen,
but
we
have
to
deal
with
what
has
happened
to
people
so
I'm
okay
with
either
two
or
three
percent
I'd
prefer
the
two,
because
we
do
have
to
have
a
renegotiation
and
a
contract
very
shortly
any
which
way.
So
that's
where
I'm
coming
from.
D
Would
not
be
out
of
the
general
they're
included
for
you
to
think
about,
but
they're
they
don't
affect
your
your
your
money,
okay,
because
they're
out
of
the
water
and
surface
they're
anticipated
when
they
did
the
rate
study
when
they
did
the
rate
study
over
how
many
years
they
already
figured
in
because
they
came
up
with
the
figures.
I
mean
I'm
doing
this
top
of
the
head,
but
they
already
came
with
the
figures
with
over
a
five-year
period.
The
positions
you
were
gonna
have
to
add,
so
these
positions
already
been
considered
in
the
rate
study.
D
We
didn't,
we
didn't
need
all
the
positions
at
one
time,
because
we
had
to
build
up
the
department,
so
so
these
are
actually
accounted
for,
funded
and
in
the
rate
study,
without
raising
that
right
now
and
it's
just
the
year
the
last
year
this
year,
this
is
the
year
we're
trying
to
add
to
as
we're
trying
to
get
to
where
we
know
we
have
to
max
out
with
and
but
it
doesn't
have
any
effect
on
the
numbers
or
figures,
because
it's
already
factored
in
waiting.
Okay,.
B
Well,
first,
with
the
millage
rate
I'd
like
to
see
it
drop
the
10th
of
a
point
to
5.27.
I
know
that's
going
to
be
230
thousand
dollars
you
would
miss
out
on,
but
I
would
say
at
least
a
minimum
of
five
hundredths
of
a
point
which
would
be
115
000.
B
B
I
would
I
would
support,
and
I
know
I
know,
they're
overstaffed
or
I
know
they're
understaffed.
I
would
support
one
police
officer
to
be
hired
the
civilian
absolutely
because
someone
has
to
help
handle
these
electronic
records
when
it
comes
to
the
the
new
video
and
body
cameras,
etc.
B
I
would
support
one
of
the
public
works
parks
position.
Let's
support
the
road
and
streets,
I
would
support
the
full-time
grant
writer
as
well
and
at
the
minimum
at
least
two
percent
for
both
our
fire
and
police
department.
B
B
Take
care
of
our
staff
this
year,
anticipate
growth
and
salaries
for
our
staff,
and
you
know
if
we
have
to
pull
out
a
hundred
thousand
or
two
from
the
general
reserve,
so
be
it,
but
we're
going
to
take
care
of
our
staff,
and
if
we
have
to
do
one
less
capital
improvement
project,
then
I'm
okay
with
it.
So
thank
you.
A
Okay,
vice
mayor
blonde.
F
F
The
vacant
positions
we
have
right
now
are
loaded
positions.
Yes,
yes
and
they're
unfilled
positions,
but
they're
already
loaded
into
the
budget.
Yes,
so
that
means
we're
on
a
sliding
scale.
If
we
don't
hire
them,
we
don't
spend
the
money.
Yes
correctly,
so
there's
there's
additional
monies
there.
That
can
be
used
to
compensate
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
up
front
as
well.
As
far
as
the
millage
rate,
I'm
probably
going
to
go
against
the
grain
of
everybody
here,
but
I
don't
think
we
need.
We
should
be
reducing
it
at
all.
F
A
A
And
the
last
time
the
millage
was
dropped.
I
think
point
one
from
5.5
to
5.37
is
that
right
that
turned
out
to
be
5,
15
per
household
yeah,
and
fortunately
I
was
not
a
city
commissioner
at
that
time,
because
what
happens
is
the
fifteen
dollars
gets
spread
across
the
community
and
then,
but
because
of
that,
we,
for
whatever
reason
things
don't
happen.
In
other
words,
in
this
particular
case,
we've
got
that
630
thousand
dollar
or
so
increase
from
the
property
appraiser.
A
But
if
it
doesn't
come
to
fruition,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
changes
anyway
and
and
then
in
the
particular
case,
the
time
the
millage
rate
was
dropped.
There
were
issues
with
specific
services
not
being
offered
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
It
may
not
be
tied
to
anything
the
millage
raider
not
having
the
money,
but
people
tied
the
fact
that
you
know
you
know
you
could
have
saved
them.
The
you
know
the
millage
rate
and
taking
care
of
this.
A
So
I
I
don't
think
that
that
15
dollars
per
household
compared
to
what
you
buy,
if
you
keep
it,
the
same
is
worth
it
I
mean
I
maybe
for
some
of
some
people
it
is,
but
for
me
it's
not
it.
It
has
to
do
with
home
ownership,
and
so
I'm
not
for
adjusting
the
millage
rate,
especially
right
now
in
this,
what
I
would
call
a
time
of
uncertainty
because
of
what
the
economy
is
going
to
do.
A
The
real
estate
market
is
somewhat
in
question
right
now,
and-
and
I
would
and
I'm
not
saying
if,
if
things
played
out
to
where
they
were
stable-
that
I
would
support
a
millage
rate
reduction
next
year.
All
I'm
saying
is
this
year?
Isn't
the
one
for
me
to
support
a
millage
rate
and
we
do
get
that
extra
money,
but
we
also
have
some
significant
needs
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
well,
and-
and
I
understand
I-
you
know:
okay,
the
the
the
values
of
homes
are
going
up.
A
Is
here
the
reason
we're
doing
this
adjustment
as
far
as
the
salaries
is
because
things
have
gotten
more
expensive
for
our
employees
and
if
we
don't
keep
them
happy,
they'll
find
someplace
else,
that's
going
to
pay
more.
So
this
is
what
we're
doing
we're
not
any
different
than
any
other
employer
it.
It
is
an
upward
spiral.
I
recognize
that
but
again
for
me,
I'm
not
interested
for
me
personally,
I'm
not
as
a
as
as
a
commissioner,
I'm
not
interested
in
in
a
millage
rate
at
this
time.
A
As
far
as
the
the
the
one
two
or
three
percent,
I'm
supportive
of
the
three
percent-
and
it
goes
back
to
what
chief
young
was
saying
and
that
he's
got
a
shortage
of
six
officers
right
now,
which
means
that,
and
that
goes
by
population-
is
that
correct,
correct
yeah?
A
So
we're
basically-
and
I
do
the
setups
like
most
of
you-
do
at
the
first
fridays
and
and
things
of
that
nature
and-
and
it's
sometimes
a
little
bit
of
a
struggle
for
our
officers
to
volunteer
that
time,
because
they're
coming
off
of
a
shift
and
they're
there's
more
work,
that's
being
added
to
them.
So
they
work
very
hard,
and
this
is
just
basically
going
to
carry
them
for
this
one
year
until
we
get
into
this
negotiation
and-
and
I
think
it
was
an
unforeseen
situation
when
the
contract
was
negotiated
three
years
ago.
A
As
far
as
that
front
loading
that
the
city
manager,
I
don't
think
that
anyone
anticipated
the
increase
of
the
the
economy
and
the
cost
that
we
see
right
now.
So
that's
why
the
the
the
union
president
came
and
spoke
to
us
about
this.
So
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
this
and
and
we're
still
going
to
be
short,
approving
the
two
officers
we're
still
going
to
be
short
by
four
officers
and
we'll
be.
A
I
asked
chief
young
about
that
today,
the
same
thing
and
said
I
wanted
to
make
sure
he
told
the
commission
yeah,
I'm
okay
with
two
this
year,
but
you're
gonna
see
me
again
next
year
for
to
keep
up
with
everything.
So
I'm
I'm
satisfied
with
the
three
percent.
I'm
not
I
mean
it's,
obviously
the
commission's
going
to
decide
what
to
do
as
far
as
the
millage
rate,
I'm
not
supportive
of
the
millage
cut,
especially
this
year.
A
I
understand
what
the
rationale
is,
but
I
think
if,
if
you,
if,
if
some
of
the
commissioners
spend
some
time
with
mr
herring
once
he
gets
back
or
maybe
with
shane
over
there
as
far
as
what
the
impact
is
as
far
as
per
household,
you
might
get
a
different
impression.
Yeah,
it's
very
small.
D
He
has
sent
me
that
pardon
me.
He
sent
me
that
from
his
sickbed,
so
so
for
200
000
home
it
would
be
for
the
.05.
It
would
be
10,
obviously
for
the
for
the
0.1.
It
would
be
20
a
home
on
a
200
000.
Obviously
the
value
of
the
home
goes
up.
Then
that
goes
up,
but
that's
usually
the
two
hundred
thousand
used
to
be
a
hundred
thousand.
Now,
with
going
up,
they
based
on
two
hundred
thousand
so
in
general,
ten
dollars
a
home
for
the
.05
and
20
for
the
0.10
per
home
per.
B
Household
I
know
mayor,
I
just
I
feel
like
you
know,
the
other
argument
would
be.
I
don't
know
how
much
that
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
will
carry
us
during
the
year
for
a
project,
so
I
just
wanna
make
sure
that
next
year
we'll
come
around
again,
but
we
try
to
get
the
millage
rate
going
in
a
different
direction.
B
A
People
are
having
insurances
cancelled,
so
I
I
think,
if
we're
interested
in
really
adjusting
the
millage,
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
get
take
an
independent
look
at
this.
Just
just
just
what
what
does
a
millage
cut?
Do?
What
what?
What's
the
upside
and
the
downside
to
a
millage
cut?
And
I
think
that's
a
policy
decision-
that's
that
is
worth
studying
beyond
making
a
decision
this
evening.
At
least
that's
that's!
That's
for
me
and
any
case.
Let's
get
some
clear
go
ahead.
Can
I.
E
I
just
want
to
touch
base
on
that
real
quick
and
give
you
a
little
more
backup
on
that.
So
I
mean
with
the
argument
that
it's
10
15
a
household
a
year
or
if
it's
200
000,
let's
say
the
average
house
in
tarpon's,
450
or
so
right,
so
it's
20
and
then
so,
let's
say
40
plus
dollars
a
year
right
and
it's
compounded
year
over
year
right.
So
if
we've
had
multiple
tax
cuts
over
the
past
five
years,
those
have
added
up
to
where
we're
at
today
with
the
millage
rate.
E
So,
although
they're
a
little
bit
each
year,
it
adds
up.
If
we
didn't
do
anything
over
the
past
five
years,
we
would
potentially
be
at
another
sixty
dollars
a
year
right
and
then,
if
you
add
that
40
on
top
of
that
two
hundred
dollars
a
year,
the
one
thing
I
just
want
to
point
out
is
that
we've
received
12
million
dollars
from
the
federal
government.
E
Another
two
million
dollars
from
the
state
of
florida,
that's
outside
of
our
ad
form,
taxes
that
come
to
the
city,
and
so
that's
why
another
reason
I
think
it's
a
good
reason
to
give
some
back
to
the
residents
through
the
millage
aspect
and
then
the
last
point
is
if
it's
only
a
few
dollars
and
why
not
raise
the
millage
rate,
and
that
should
be
the
approach.
If
that's
we're
taking
that
approach,
I
think
that's
something
you
need
to
look
at
then,
if
it's
only
ten
dollars
or
fifteen
dollars
a
household.
E
If
we
look
at
that
viewpoint,
then
look
at
increasing
it
multiple
times
and
to
do
more
projects,
I'm
not
for
that.
I'm
just
saying:
if
that's
the
approach
we
take,
if
it's
only
going
to
cost
me
ten
dollars,
why
not
put
that
increase
in
there?
So
just
a
few
other
things
to
say:
that's
why
I
feel
that
we
should
give
back
to
the
community
one
inflation,
two,
the
arpa
fundings,
three,
the
state
funding
and
then
just
I
think
in
general.
E
A
Florida
does
not
have
an
income
tax.
I
agree.
I
can
guarantee
you
it's
a
lot
more
expensive
to
live
in
other
states
than
it
is
in
florida.
That's
why
I
live
in
florida.
That's
right!
So,
okay,
what
we
need
to
do
is
get
some.
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
handle
this.
You
want
to
hear
it
from
the
commissioners.
As
far
as
the
I.
D
A
I
let's
go
as
far
as
the
three
percent
goes.
I
heard
three
percent
myself
and
vice
mayor
london,
commissioner
eisner
I'm
good
with
that.
Yes,
as
far
as
a
millage
cut.
E
B
G
A
G
A
No,
no,
that's
that's
exactly
right
and
and
then
what
happens
if,
when
not?
If,
when
there's
a
downturn
in
the
economy,
you
want
to
have
that
millage
rate
back
and
then,
when
you
start
it's
a
lot
easier
to
to
keep
it
the
same
than
it
is
to
ask
for
more
later,
because
you
reduced
it
and
now
you're
going
to
re
you're
going
to
increase
it
again.
I
mean
I
I
just
I
think
from
a
management
perspective.
I
think
keeping
it
steady.
A
I
think
in
don't
get
me
wrong.
I'm
not
convinced
that
the
property
appraisers
you
know
what
goes
on
with
them
is
is
correct.
Either
every
year,
especially
business
owners
have
a
real
problem
with
their
increase
in
value
as
far
as
their
business
property
goes,
that's
probably
the
as
a
matter
of
fact
that
was,
we
were
12
across
and
14
for
commercial
property,
I
think,
is
what
it
was
this
year.
So
okay
is
that
is
that
it
on
this
one.
A
A
And
then
also
we're
okay
on
this
part,
then,
because
I
need
to
go
back
to
the
other
part.
D
D
D
The
the
other
thing
this
said,
I,
the
charter
officials,
obviously
is
the
decision
that
this
board
makes
in
past
history,
they've
done
the
percentage
that
the
rest
of
the
city
got.
So
that's
the
usual
case.
We
also
have
a
new
position,
internal
order
that
we
kind
of
developed
the
position.
The
job
range,
a
range
of
salary
of
brand
new
you've
all
got
the
memo
from
the
city
auditor
he's
here
tonight.
D
If
you
have
questions
tonight
or
you
want
to
talk
with
him
deal
with
it
and
come
back
tuesday
night
he's
requested
a
change
in
that
it's
not
really
a
rain
there.
We
call
them
the
bees
the
charter
officials
are
in
b's,
he's
asked
for
for
an
increase
of
that
and
also
an
increase
above
the
normal,
the
normal
amount,
which
would
be
five
percent.
In
this
case,
that's
given
the
chart
officials
again
being
a
new
position
that
we
started
from
those
are
purely
a
board
decision.
D
It's
usually
brought
forward
in
here.
If
there's
more
time
needed
or
anything
we
can,
we
can
pull
them
out.
But
those
are
another
thing
you
have
to
have
under
consideration
and
if
you
want
to
to
deal
with
this
or
we
come
back
with
a
different
resolution
on
another
time,
that's
the
only
other
issue
and
then
I'm
done
with
the
salary
portion
and
stuff.
That's
the
the
last
issue
that
that
that'll
be
in
the
memo
that
you
may
not
be
ready
to
make
a
decision
on
or
not
tuesday
night.
A
Let's,
let's
yeah,
let
me
get
a
little
clarification
on
that.
Your
your
salary
adjustment
and
the
clerks
is
is,
is
part
of
our
structure
already,
as
far
as
the
like
the
rest
of
the
wage
increases.
Yes,.
A
A
And
then
also
for
mr
pulos
there's
a
wage,
I'm
sorry,
a
salary
range
adjustment
there,
and
I
need
to
get
clarification
from
that.
I
think
it
would
be
you
or
ms
niffen
to
be
able
to
clarify
that
with
that
salary
range
adjustment
to
a
b1
is
just
the
range
increase
by
itself.
Does
that
does
that
include
any
kind
of
an
increase.
D
Not
not
for
the
charter
officials.
Okay,
that's
why
you
would
have
to
if
it
was,
as
you
see,
from
the
regular
ones,
when
they're
raising,
usually
the
minimum
is
five
percent
on
the
vision
charter
positions,
the
ranges
the
increases
are
set
by
the
board.
Okay,
so-
and
these
are
all
they're,
not
you
know
grade
13
great
they're
like
b1,
for
the
cinema,
b2
b3.
So
so
it
doesn't
automatically
happen
in
this.
D
That's
why,
in
the
memo,
you
would
have
to
not
only
change
this
out
of
starting
and
ending
you
would
have
to
if
you
would
have
to
add
that
additional
you
know,
agree
that
but
agree
if
you
don't
get
the
five
percent
normally
given
charter
officials,
what
the
rest
of
them
get
and
an
additional
one
for
the
increasing
in
the
range.
That
would
be
your
decision.
Okay,.
A
F
I
did
some
rough
calculations,
and
I
wasn't
here
when
we
negotiated
the
the
auditor's
contract
in
the
interim,
but
changing
as
requested
to
it
to
a
different
level
and
then
adding
the
five
percent
basically
amounts
to
like
about
a
25
increase,
which
I
think,
after
a
year
or
however
long
it's
been
here,
might
be
a
little
excessive.
D
E
F
D
Room
to
grow
because
with
it
is
now
he'll
if
he
keeps
getting
the
regular
raises,
he's
gonna
max
out
in
a
couple
of
years,
then
you'll
have
to
address
that
so
so,
just
because
he
can
go
up
an
extra.
That's
not
what
he'll
do,
depending
on
what
this
board
decides
to
give
the
charter
official
to
get
them
there.
It
just
gives
them
more
room
to
grow
and
again
we're
doing
this.
We
didn't
have
a
position.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
good.
Compare
if
you
remember
those
on
the
board.
D
A
E
I'll
be
honest,
billy.
I
really
appreciate
everything
you
do,
I'm
not
sure
where
this
lands
right
now.
I
would
like
to
ask
jane
or
mark
if
you
could
have
jane
work
on
this
is
to
have
some
type
of
comparable
to
say
what
an
internal
auditor,
if
that's
changed,
if
you
have
any
comparables
or
what
that
looks
like,
I,
I
don't
think
I
can
compare
internal
auditor
to
city
clerk
just
like
I
can't
compare
the
city
clerk
to
the
city
manager
from
the
pay
wages,
so
just
to
say
it's
a
city
charter.
E
I
I
don't
think
I
could
do
that,
but
what
I
can
do
is
I'm
willing
to
look
at
say.
Is
there
a
comparable
in
the
marketplace?
Private
and
and
government
say
what
internal
auditors
make
as
a
manager
director
and
that's
something
I
could
evaluate
at
that
point?
But
without
that
data
I
can't
really
just
say:
let's
go
ahead
and
do
10
and
increase
the
grade
again
appreciate
everything
you're
doing,
but
at
that
point
I
just
need
some
more
information
that.
A
G
I
see
a
wide
array
of
salaries
from
city
manager
through
to
the
auditor
and
everybody
else,
so
the
cost
of
living
has
increased
pretty
much
the
same
for
almo
for
everybody.
If
it's
costing
him
25
dollars
more,
it's
costing
billy
25
more,
so
I
don't
want
to
really
go
according
to
percentage.
I'd
prefer
to
go
to
a
fixed
number
to
compensate
everybody
in
that
aspect.
G
So
that's
more
so
the
way
I
would
like
to
see
it
because,
if
you're
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
three
percent
or
two
percent
means
quite
a
bit
more
to
someone
who's
earning
thirty
five
thousand
or
forty
thousand
dollars.
So
I
I
just
don't
think
that
that's
an
equal
way
that
we
could
compensate
for
what's
actually
happening.
G
As
far
as
the
increase,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
that
he
billy
is
in
a
a
structured
area
where
he
can
have
growth,
because
I
I
do
like
what
he's
doing
and
I'd
like
to
see
him
stay
and
and
do
more
for
us.
He
hasn't
even
finished
pretty
much
our
city
as
a
whole
on
one
once
around.
So
I
do
want
to
have
that
room
for
growth,
and
I
also
think
that
some
of
these
increases
should
be
on
our
reviews
of
what
we
write
as
well.
A
G
B
At
his
current
salary,
how
many
years
with
a
annual
cost
of
living
increase
of
three
percent,
will
he
be
maxed
out
at
his
b3
grade.
C
C
A
It
it
depends
on
what
the
commission
adjusts
the
salary
each
year,
and
I
admit
that
what
I
I
don't
see
in
front
of
us
right
now
is
a
good
enough
information.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at
and
and
but
but
I
I
don't
have
an
answer
and
that's
going
to
depend
on
is.
I
would
suspect
ms
niffen
providing
that
information
for
us.
D
If
you
need
more
time,
because
there's
no
right
that
can
be
pulled
out
of
here
and
the
charter
official
portion
can
be
pulled
out
and
then
there
so
we'll
try
to
get
you
billy
and
jane
work
on
trying
to
get
you
all
the
information
we
can,
that
you've
asked
for
tonight
by
tuesday,
but
also,
if
you
need
more
time
or
are
waiting
after
the
evaluations,
they're
done
to
make
that
decision
or
anything
like
that,
they
can
easily
be
pulled
out
and
brought
as
a
separate
agenda
item
to
one
of
the
september's
meeting
and
done
well
in
time
of
october
one
when
they
go
into
effect.
B
Okay,
so,
for
example,
we
could
give
a
let's
say
we
did
grant
the
regrade
of
the
b1
to
show
us
in
good
faith.
You
will
grow
with
us,
it
would.
We
could
also
include
the
five
percent,
just
the
five
percent
originally.
D
A
D
This
year
would
be,
it
would
be
five
because
to
say,
as
the
director
is
the
highest
the
highest
director,
it's
usually
the
same.
Okay,
I
mean
not
usually,
but
again,
it's
purely
at
the
board's
discretion
and
you
could,
you
know,
pick
and
choose
which
charter
official
gets
gets.
What
that
that's
all
in
your
purview.
B
A
And
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
is
to
go
ahead
and
get
the
information
to
the
commissioners
and-
and
I
would
actually
appreciate
it
before
the
meetings-
if
you
have
some
time
to
either
give
the
city
manager
a
call
about
this,
spend
some
time
with
mr
pulos
I
have
and
talking
about
this
and
get
a
little
more
information.
A
phone
call
visit
him
to
see
what
it
is.
The
one
thing
that.
A
Be
mindful
of
which
mr
poulos
is
not,
which
I
appreciate,
sometimes
our
charter
officials,
a
little
shy
of
asking
for
something
and,
as
a
result,
it's
just
the
opposite.
They
actually
their
salaries
slide
over
time
and
until
the
commission
decides
they're
going
to
do
something
about
it,
make
them.
In
my
opinion,
what
I
would
call
make
them
whole
with
what
the
industry
is.
Then
it
doesn't
happen.
So
I
think
it's
a
responsibility
on
our
part
to
take
care
of
the
only
mr
trask
is
here
under
contract.
A
He
doesn't
really
he's
not
part
of
this
formula,
but
we've
only
got
three
employees
that
we
need
to
take
care
of,
and
that's
city
manager,
city
clerk
and
the
internal
auditor
and
and
we're
wholly
responsible.
The
city
manager
could
tell
us
something
about
the
city,
clerk
and
the
internal
auditor,
but
it's
our
responsibility
and
not
he's
not
he's
just
sharing
with
you.
Whatever
limited
information
he's
got,
but
really
it
would
be
ms
niffen
that
would
provide
us
the
information
that
we
need
for
the
three
employees.
A
I
call
them
employees,
the
three
charter
officials
that
we
have
working
directly
for
us,
spend
some
time
with
them,
see
what
their
interests
are
and
and
then
you'll
get
a
sense
of
what
needs
to
be
done
and
again
we
don't
need
to
make
a
decision
next
tuesday
night.
That
could
actually
be
left
for
a
future
date
if,
if,
if
the
city
manager
doesn't
get
a
clear
direction
before
tuesday
on
that,
okay,
is
that
acceptable
to
everybody?
Sure?
Okay,
all
right.
A
Item
two
is
the
kappa
projects
and
arpa,
and
I'm
gonna
again
turn
this
over
to
the
city
manager.
Again
I
mentioned
this
before
the
general
fund
is
critical,
because
we've
we've
got
to
actually
balance
the
money
there
and
work
within
that
means.
The
capital
projects
and
arpa
is
is
a
little
softer
in
the
sense
of
not
everything
has
to
be
done
in
one
year.
A
Some
things
are
need
to
be
done.
Some
things
may
not
need
to
be
done,
but
I'm
hoping
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
of
a
discussion
that
if
you
look
at
the
current
projects
that
have
already
been
approved
and
get
some
sense
of
how
much
effort
there
is
already
to
get
those
things
accomplished,
it
may
be
kind
of
a
policy
or
a
little
more
of
a
strategy
to
not
to
go
overboard
with
loading
on
additional
projects
until
some
of
these
other
things
get
cleared
off
the
board.
A
D
And
this
we
provide
you
a
little
bit
of
bigger
forms
if
you're
like
me,
what
we
sent
you
on
the
computer
screen
or
some
of
the
regular
copies.
So
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
is
the
bigger
one
which
is
the
arper
and
the
smaller
one.
That's
on
you
they're
a
little
bit
easy
to
refer
to
and
I'm
real
happy
what
we've
you
know,
they've
accomplished
so
far
tonight,
what
I'm
looking
for
in
arpa
and
I've
already
got
the
agenda.
D
If
you
looked
at
the
draft
agenda,
there's
an
agenda
item
of
approval
for
additional
items
for
arpa.
So
what
what
I'm
looking
for
tonight
is,
if
there's
any
of
these,
these
these
other
projects
that
we're
ready
to
make
a
commitment
on
again.
We
don't
have
to
and
I'll
give
you
you
know
from
a
staff
and
city
manager,
recommendations
what
I
think
to
be
to
go.
D
But
let's
go
through
this
because
some
things,
some
good
things-
have
changed
on
this
on
on
this
this
front
page
we're
looking
at
the
front
page
of
the
arpa
approved
of
those
projects.
D
Obviously,
we've
got
the
ones
approved
the
proposed
arpa
projects,
the
one
things
we've
done:
we've
divided
the
cops
and
kids
into
design
and
the
build
portion.
D
That's
being
moved
the
present
time.
Those
are
probably
the
three.
I
would
say
that
that,
because,
if
we're
spending
the
design
money
that'll
be
complete
well
within
the
time
period
and
give
us
time
to
figure,
you
know
how
we're
going
to
fund
the
two
buildings
of
the
project,
but
the
sooner
we
get
started
on
the
design.
The
sooner
we
can
come
up
with
the
actual
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
need.
So
those
would
be
two
of
the
things
the
one
portion
of
good
news.
D
Well,
one
that
we're
gonna
do
is
is
on
the
craig
park.
Seawall
bob
is
working
on
some
different
things,
with
some
possible
scaling
down
and
stuff.
That
is,
that
is
not
ready
to
bring
forward
to
your
full
cost
and
stuff.
We
need
to
gather
more
information.
Bob
needs
to
work
on
some
more
things
to
maybe
even
bring
that
amount
down
that
we
need
committed.
So
I
would
suggest
we
would
wait
on
that.
One.
The
good
news
is
when
you
go
up
to
the
beckett
bridge,
202
million
dollar
design
bob.
D
C
Yeah
thanks
mark,
so
in
my
meetings
with
the
county
on
beckett
bridge
turns
out.
They
are
going
to
apply
for
a
grant
some
of
the
new
federal
money
for
construction
of
the
bridge,
but
in
that
they're
also
going
to
include
the
city's
utilities,
portions,
which
was
huge
news.
So
that's
not
only
the
directional
drill
of
the
two
subaqueous
pipelines
that
go
under
the
bridge
that
we
need
to
relocate.
C
D
So,
for
as
far
as
the
front
page,
that's
where
we
are
at
at
the
front
page,
the
second
page
on
there,
which
we'll
get
back
to
is
just
some
of
the
other
things
we
have
talked
about.
I
don't
think
any
of
them
is
ready
to
go
on
here
here,
yet
we've
got
committed
of
funds
and
stuff.
So
I
think
the
main
concentration
tonight
that
we
need
is
look
at
that
front
page
and
decide
if
there's
a
consensus
of
the
board.
D
F
F
I'm
just
sitting
here
trying
to
figure
out
how
becca
bridge
went
from
728
000
to
over
2
million.
But
do
you
want
to
have.
C
F
Had
it
on
a
listing
at
one
particular
time
at
728
000,
which
was
for
the
directional,
boring
and
replacement
of
stuff,
and
then
all.
Why
is
it
up
to
2
million.
C
C
F
C
F
F
C
F
C
C
F
A
You,
okay,
on
the
rest
of
it,
the
the
cops
and
kids
design
work,
the
fire
station
design
work
and
also
the
the
the
hospital's
overhang
yeah.
F
The
hospital
I'm
fine
with
I'd
actually
mentally
allocated
more
to
to
cops
and
kids
than
the
600
000,
but
that
1.6
still
falls
under
what
I
I
was
looking
at
as
a
figure
to
go
in
that
direction.
So,
let's
I'm
okay
with
that.
Okay.
E
Thanks
mayor,
I
can
tell
you
the
hospital,
I'm
good
with
for
a
million
the
fire
station
on
golf
road,
I'm
good
with
for
design,
cops
and
kids,
I'm
good
with
design
a
couple
things
I
still
have
issues
with
right
now
is
just
a
total
build
for
the
cops
and
kids
cost
if
that's
going
to
be
fully
arbor
or
somewhere
else,
and
then
the
craig
park
seawall.
E
E
D
Much
is
avail
if
we
need
an
offset
from
what's
available
in
stormwater
we'd
bring
you
that
offset
if
we're
able
to
negotiate
the
deal,
we're
still
waiting,
we're
still
waiting
for
the
appraisals
on
those
two
then
we'll
go
to
the
people
to
try
to
get
the
deal
and
then
we'll
know
we'll
see
how
much
we
have
storm
water
fund,
wise,
which
I
know
it's
low,
but
we'll
see
how
much
we
have.
And
yes,
we
may
need
to
bring
back
the
difference
to
you
to
fund
out
of
this,
but
we
don't
know
that
now.
E
E
We've
got
a
lot
of
great
pipes
in
our
city,
but
we
also
have
a
lot
of
pipes
that
are
due
for
increase
or
updating,
and
I
think
we
should
still
tap
into
that
a
little
bit
as
well
too,
so
I
would
say,
put
the
brakes
on
the
building
construction
for
cops
and
kids
in
the
the
craig
park.
Seawall
look
at
those
two
properties.
I
brought
up
and
add
some
additional
water
pipes,
replacement.
D
Okay,
still
again
we're
looking
for
two,
which
ones
we
can
do
now
and
of
course
we
can't
do
the
property
ones
until
we
get
the
price.
So
that's
something
we
would
bring
back
when
we
have
that's.
Why
I'm
saying
we
don't
have
to
do
it
all
tonight
or
before
october
1..
Some
of
these
things
will
linger
on
and
obviously
we're
not
going
to
spend
all
the
money
tonight.
E
A
E
A
Far
as
the
overall
funding,
the
other
thing
with
the
craig
park,
if
let
me
just
interject
here,
the
craig
park
estimate
of
the
five
million
dollars
was
based
on
replacing
the
seawall,
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
mr
robertson
about
this
from
the
boat
ramp.
All
the
way
around
the
city
dock
and
my
my
at
least
my
preference,
or
at
least
my
priority,
was
the
sidewalks
where
you
walk
from
about
the
tennis,
the
tourist
club,
all
the
way
around,
so
we've
already
replaced
some
sea
wall.
A
So
I
think
the
city
manager
and
mr
robertson
go
go
back
and
rework
the
numbers,
as
far
as
I
would
hope,
maybe
focusing
or
at
least
break
it
down
for
us.
So
we
can
take
a
look
at
it,
focusing
a
little
more
on
the
sidewalks
and
and
what
it
would
cost
to
fix
those
all
the
way
around
to
canal
and
read
as
well,
not
just
not
just
part
of
it,
so
that
that's
the
idea
behind
the
reworking.
The
numbers
on
that
commission.
G
Thank
you
mayor,
I'm,
okay
with
the
hospital,
I'm
okay
with
the
design
of
the
fire
station.
In
addition,
I
did
take
a
tour
of
the
fire
station.
It
definitely
needs
to
be
replaced.
I
wish
everybody
would
go,
take
a
peek.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
you
haven't.
I
don't
want
to
share
my
comment
about
it,
but
it
wasn't
favorable,
it's
it's
a
function
that
just
needs
to
be
done.
G
One
of
the
questions
I
have,
though-
and
this
is
nobody-
has
this
crystal
ball-
whether
we
hold
off
thinking
that
the
economy
will
tank
and
it
could
be
either
cheaper
or
the
same
down
the
road
or
we
do
need
to
just
go
for
a
bond
for
this
and
and
just
get
it
done
and
bite
the
bullet,
I'm
okay
with
the
cops
and
kids
design.
G
I
had
questions
before
I
go
forward
on.
Well.
Let
me
first
stay
with
this.
I
did
put
in
for
the
land
purchases
just
because
I
didn't
know
what
they
were
going
to
come
in
at
and
whether
we
were
going
to
go
through
with
them
or
not.
So
I
kind
of
put
a
number
of
2
million
dollars
aside
for
that.
G
But
again,
if
I
don't
know
what
they
are,
I
can't
really
decide
that
yet,
but
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
that
really
was
pertaining
to
our
current
capital
projects,
and
this
question
is:
do
we
have
any
that's
outstanding
that
we
still
owe
money
for
that?
We
don't
have
the
money
for
that.
We
would
maybe
have
to
take
from
this
to
pay
for.
D
D
C
Is
everybody
paid
for
short
answer?
Is
yes
to
to
this
point
for
things
that
we
don't
know.
Well
things
we
don't
know,
we
don't
know
an
example
would
be
for
the
gross
avenue
project.
We
know
that
surety's
working
on
it
we're
going
to
have
a
claim,
but
the
cost
to
finish
the
job
is
unknown.
We
we
have
the
bond
that
will
allow
us
to
finish
the
job
up
to
that
certain
amount,
but
inflation
may
affect
that.
So
that
was.
G
You
know
we
take,
we
take
out
a
bond,
we
take
out
a
bond
for
what
the
original
project
is
not
for
what
the
project
would
cost
now
correct.
That's
right,
so
we're
liable
for
the
balance.
C
G
I
understand,
but
I
drove
down
there
today.
That's
why
so
my
question
is,
you
know
we
have,
I
think,
about
a
third
of
it
done
and
are
they
paid
in
full.
G
A
E
A
A
Let
me
just
say
two
years
ago,
in
2020,
when
I
came
on
the
commission,
orange
street
would
be
an
example
and
that's
a
cost
estimate,
but
bidding
that
we're
liable
to
see
something
significantly
different
and
that's
what
the
concern
I
have
is
not
going
into
what
we
have
right
now
as
far
as
money,
too
far,
without
knowing
what
some
of
these
other
things
are
actually
going
to
cost
us.
That's
all
and.
A
G
Well,
my
job
is
to
try
to
save
the
city
money
one
way
right,
but
that's
that's
where
I
am
with
this.
I
I'm
just
very
curious
where
we
are
with
paying
our
bills
for
the
current
stuff.
So
there's
really
not
that
much
more
and
we
have
that
money
budgeted
correct,
yeah.
D
Any
activity
not
yet,
but
again,
that's
why
doing
this
in
moderation
is
good,
because
things
could
change
as
we
get
more
information
as
these
projects
we've
got
going
now
when
we
get
the
orange
street
design,
we'll
kind
of
know
from
design
we'll
know
the
present
day
cost
of
it,
and
then
we
may
be
coming
back
to
you.
We
need
another
300
000
or
we
need
something
back.
That's
why
it's
good
doing
it
this
way,
because
we're
leaving
ourselves
a
lot
of
room.
Let.
G
A
B
Thank
you
mayor
for
the
hospital.
I
completely
agree
with.
I
know
we
got
to
take
care
of
that
overhang,
so
we
could
some
point
focus
on
the
skeleton
of
the
building
the
design
of
the
fire
station.
I
support
the
cops
and
kids
center
design.
I
support
I'm
hesitant
to
put
the
3.3
million
straight
into
the
youth
building,
but
if
we
can
complete
it
and
we
have
another
safe
area
for
our
youth
in
that
area
to
go
and
be
part
of
it,
it's
really
important.
It
really
is.
B
C
Paul
smith,
public
services,
director
and
yes,
we've
got
plans
to
get
moving
on
this
right
away,
but
tommy's
the
one
working
on
it
directly.
If
you
want
to
add
to
what
I'm
saying,
yes,
that's
something
we're
currently
working
on
scoping
right
now,
we're
planning
on
funding
the
first
phase,
which
would
be
you
know,
improving
our
network
architecture
up
to
the
new
federal
standards
that
are
just
emerging
primarily
with
the
arpa
funding.
C
If
we
elected
not
to
fund
that
project
through
harper,
we
would
have
to
identify
alternative
funding
through
the
water
sewer
enterprise
fund
most
likely,
but
we
do
want
to
proceed
with
that
relatively
quickly,
just
because
you
know,
there's
continual
risk
out
there,
so
we
want
to
keep
the
city
as
safe
as
possible
from
a
cyber
security
standpoint.
You
know
as
soon
as
possible.
B
C
Funding
that
we're
discussing
for
the
cyber
security
project
we're
again
we're
planning
on
funding
that
primarily
with
arpa
and
kind
of
filling
in
the
gaps
with
some
other
pro
other
deferring
other
projects
from
water
and
sewer.
C
This
was
not
an
item
that
was
budgeted
in
our
10-year
cip,
so
anything
we
do
to
fund
the
cyber
security
improvements
to
come
up.
The
new
emerging
federal
standards
would
be
something
that
we
would
have
to
look
at
in
detail
and
see.
C
You
know
we
would
most
likely
have
to
defer
something
from
cip
or
or
potentially
look
at
some
other
funding
mechanism
like
pulling
from
reserves
or
there
are
grants
out
there,
but
they're
still
kind
of
emerging
and
we're
continuing
to
keep
an
eye
on
those,
but
there's
nothing
that
we're
planning
on
applying
for
like
tomorrow.
B
Okay,
the
reason
why
I
asked
was,
after
attending
the
citizens
academy
I
stayed
to
watch
they
did.
They
had
a
great
presentation
by
the
way,
but
when
they,
when
they
opened
the
floor
up
for
questions,
every
question
was
pertaining
to
the
security
of
our
water.
How
secure
is
it?
You
know
how
you
know
the
risk
involved
with
any
cyber
security
attacks.
So
if
there
is
a
potential
to
move
some
of
that
arpa
money,
I
would
suggest
to
go
back
into
the
cyber
security
project.
B
Yeah.
I
you
know
the
residents,
especially
those
citizens
academy.
They
really
woke
me
up
when
their
main
focus
about
it
all
was
the
security
of
the
water.
D
D
A
C
A
A
From
this
is
I'm
putting
my
mayor's
hat
on
from
a
policy
perspective.
I
think
we
need
to
agree.
They
need
to
move
forward,
okay,
and
I
think
they
hear
that
and
then
they've
got
to
come
back
with
some
plan
about
how
we're
going
to
do
that
with
their
cost
and
things
like
that,
and
then
we
can
act
on
that.
I
guess
that's
what
I'm
getting
at,
I'm
just
sure
it's
just
trying
to
stay
within
an
envelope
of
giving
them
some
flexibility
of
how
they
would
want
to
do
it
without
us
telling
them.
D
And
there's
one
example
on
the
the
design
takes
a
while.
You
know
designs
that
we've
done
design
they
take
a
while.
So
we
have
a
long
time
for
the
cops
and
kids
while
they're
doing
the
design
to
be
looking
at
the
other
sources.
You
know
maybe
county
funding,
maybe
grant
funding,
maybe
other.
So
so,
while
that's
out
there,
because
it's
not
committed,
we
will
be
looking
the
whole
time
of
that
design.
D
If
you
commit
the
art
we'll
be
looking
at
that
whole
time
on
alternate
fundings
and
grants,
or
you
know
asking
the
county
if
we
provide
social
services
in
that
building,
whether
you
benefit
the
county,
maybe
a
portion
from
them
so
we'll
be
looking
at
that
all
the
time
we're
going
design.
So
you
know
not
what
are
they
taking
nine
months
or
something?
So
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
time
so
that
so
our
goal
would
be
to
anything.
D
We
can
pull
off
that
arpa
list
with
other
funding
that
you
see
those
categories
on
we're
working
from
when
we
put
it
on
the
list
to
work
at
other
funding
to
relieve
that
list
to
get
the
shortfall
and
stuff.
So
so
that'll
be
immediate
looking,
but
to
get
the
design
to
give
us
an
idea.
What's
in
the
building
and
again,
if
we're
going
for
funding,
we
need
to
show
that
we
need
that
design
to
show.
This
is
what
we
envision.
This
is
what
we're
doing
for
the
community.
D
This
is
what
we're
doing
so,
where
design's
important
design
is
going
to
help
us
seek
those
other
monies
so
that
you
can
commit,
maybe
our
from
money
to
some
of
the
other
things
and
stuff
that
that
would
be
our
goal
to
find
other
areas
of
categories
to
fund
these
things,
that'll
give
you
the
money
and
harper
to
fund
other
projects.
That's
a
great
point.
Thank
you.
A
E
No
thank
you.
I've
got
a
question
follow
up
on
that
again.
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
epiphany
and
the
safety
of
the
young
men
that
are
there
and
the
amount
of
people
that
this
brings.
E
When
you
have
a
mid
tied
or
a
low
tide,
you've
got
young
men
on
the
south
side,
basically
running
through
the
mud,
it's
dangerous
if
they're,
diving
in
as
well
too.
So
I
just
hope,
that's
something
we
could
look
at
around
the
spring
area.
I
know
it's
not
pushing
out
water
anymore,
like
it
used
too
many
years
ago,
but
that's
something
I
think
that's
really
important
that
we
look
at.
A
I
I
mean
that's
an
excellent
point.
I
think.
Last
year
sometime,
I
talked
to
some.
We
we
had
the
the
police
dive
team
out
there.
A
I
asked
them
to
go
out
there
and
they
wanted
some
exercise
some
drills,
so
they
went
out
there
and
see
if
we
could
get
some
photographs
of
the
spring,
but
the
water
was
a
little
murky
and
the
whole
idea
was
to
do
to
do
what's
called
a
benthic
survey,
in
other
words
to
actually
survey
from
the
standpoint
of
the
you
know
the
bottom
of
the
this,
because
we've
got
our
manatees
in
there
and
we
need
to
be
very
careful,
they're
they're,
coming
in
there
now
and
whatever
we
do,
for
dredging
we're
going
to
make
sure
we
don't
wind
up
upsetting
the
ecosystem
in
there
that
actually
supports
them.
G
A
And
maybe
that
would
be
something
that
the
city
manager
would
come
forward
with.
Maybe
this
year
maybe
okay
go
ahead.
I.
G
Was
going
to
say,
we
also
need
to
be
very
careful
because
when
you
do
do
dredging
there
or
if
you
were
going
to
do
dredging
there,
not
only
would
you
upset
the
ecosystem,
but
you'd
have
more
of
the
possible
for
walls
to
come
cave
in
again,
because
you
could
be
digging
down
below
the
where
the
cement
is
and
you
could
be
creating
a
problem
bigger
than
we
started
so
right.
It's
just
something
that
you
do
have
to
really
look
into
before
you
change
the
dynamics.
G
A
E
I
I've
just
quick.
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
bodies
growing
up
in
the
bodies.
A
lot
of
it's
does
a
silt
a
lot
of
runoff.
So
if
you
do
pull
it
out,
there's
obviously
an
opportunity
to
enhance
it
with
grass
plantings
and
other
things
along
those
lines
too.
So
all
valid
comments,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
dressing.
You
know
some.
A
Of
it,
I
used
to
swim
in
that
spring
bayou
and
it
was
never
silted
up
like
that,
and
it
only
occurred
when
they
they
they
put
that
the
berm
around
the
the
the
access
to
lake
tarpon
and
cut
that
flushing
that
basically
kept
the
stuff
going
out
and
it
was
actually
a
sand
bottom.
Last
time
I
was
in
there
I
dropped
an
anchor
down
there
and
I
pulled
it
back
up
and
I'm
not
exaggerating.
A
There
was
two
feet
of
silt
on
the
anchor
chain
when
I
brought
it
back
up
and
that
was
over
there
in
front
of
the
new
home
that
was
built
there
on
the
golden
crescent.
The
new
home
right
in
that
area
is
where
I
dropped
a
chain
just
to
see
what
it
was
so
there's
there's
things
have
changed
there.
Let's.
A
Park
yeah,
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
and
you
know
the
whole
idea
was
to
maintain
the
lake
at
a
constant
water
level
is
basically
what
the
purpose
of
that
was
that
and
maintain
it
with
a
weir
at
brooker
creek
that
goes
into
old,
tampa
bay,
so
yeah
anything
else.
On
on
this
particular
item,
did
you
get
training?
I
have
some
general.
F
As
far
as
back
to
the
I.t
department
and
the
scada
systems
and
so
forth,
along
with
this
great
federal
legislation
that
came
out,
they
also
came
up
with
a
program
called.
I
don't
have
the
details
with
me,
but
it's
called
slc
gp
starts
in
october.
Are
you
aware
of
this?
F
F
Some
other
general
comments,
I'd
like
to
make
on
the
river
and
bayou
dredging.
That's
something
that's
in
our
code.
It's
it's
not
something
that
we
can
say.
Well,
let's
put
it
off
it's
in
our
code
that
it's
going
to
be
regulated
to
a
navigable
depth.
It's
currently
not
a
navigable
depth
in
several
places,
so
I
don't
think
we
have
a
choice
but
to
to
address
that.
F
There's
a
lot
of
people
who
live
on
the
water
here,
I
think
the
sort
of
my
concept
of
arpa
I
mean
outside
of
getting
some
of
the
major
projects
done,
which
everybody
seems
to
be
focused
on,
is
to
kind
of
spread
the
wealth
a
little
bit
through
the
community,
and
I
don't
think
we've
done
a
good
job
of
doing
that.
At
all.
F
We've
talked
about
this
project.
That's
a
million
dollars
of
that
project.
A
million
dollars.
Meanwhile
we're
ignoring
the
urban
tree
inventory
the
green
infrastructure
plan,
the
general
facilities
maintenances.
That's
been
asked
for
just
stuff
for
the
fire
department
that
they've
asked
for
that
hasn't
been
funded
as
well.
The
police
floor
upgrades
recreation,
stuff
needs,
but
none
of
these
smaller
projects
have
been
addressed
at
all,
and
I
I
personally.
D
F
D
D
Well,
so
if
you
look
at
the
second
document
that
when
we're
finished
with
arpa,
we
address
a
lot
of
those
things
in
there.
If
you
remember
the
tree
inventory,
we
got
a
grant
for
that,
that's
being
funded.
The
green
initiative
is
something
we
haven't
completed
yet
you'll
see
on
this
second
page
that
we're
when
we're
finished
with
the
arpa
you'll
see
a
lot
of
those.
We
did
a
priority.
D
A
lot
of
those
things,
one
two
and
three
ron
has
found
funding
for
all
the
ones
and
part
of
the
twos
and
a
lot
of
them
are.
Are
the
ac
you,
the
stuff
that
you
brought
up
in
the
two
in
the
two
budget
meetings
that
you
wanted
to
deal
with,
and
if
you
see
they
are,
they
are
funded.
All
the
ones
are
funded,
most
of
your
twos
are
are
are
funded
and
we
have
those.
So
I
think
of
the
ones
you
I
think
the
majority,
the
ones
you
have
mentioned.
D
F
A
The
what
I
wanted
to
add
to
what
vice
mayor
lund
said.
I
think
it's
right
now
is
it's
for
me.
It's
a
matter
of
patience
for
me,
there's
a
lot
of
effort
that
I'm
putting
into
just
trying
to
bring
things
that
were
done
in
the
past
forward
again
to
kind
of
put
them
in
a
little
better
order.
As
far
as
how
to.
A
From
a
city
government
perspective-
and
also
I
I
I
think,
many
things
that
were
done
in
the
past
were
done
without
benefit
of
priorities
that
were
established
by
the
residents,
for
example,
the
strategic
plan
and
that
sort
of
thing
there's
some
things
that
definitely
need
to
be
done,
whether
they're
a
priority
or
not.
They
just
have
to
be
done.
A
It's
part
of
this
vehicle
called
city
government
moving
forward
and
working,
but
we
need
to
kind
of
work
through
that
as
you're
describing
vice
marilla,
and
I
think
that
I
wish
we
had
more
time
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
I
think
we
will
but
right
now.
I
think
it's
just
this.
I
think
we're
in
the
fourth
or
fifth
month
we're
coming
up
into
a
fifth
month
as
a
city
commission,
and
I
think
right
now
we're
still
trying
to
get
this
first
budget
out
of
the
way.
A
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
don't
think
we've
with
this
first
budget,
we're
going
to
create
a
situation
where
we
can't
well
that
we
wouldn't
create
a
situation
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
back
and
look
at
that.
In
other
words,
we
haven't
spent
the
money
that
you're
describing
yet
yeah.
A
We
haven't,
but
we've
been
talking
about
the
things
that
right
now,
in
my
opinion,
have
got
the
highest
priority
and
you
know
the
comprehensive
plan
and
by
the
way
there
have
been
some
major
distractions
too,
with
some
of
these
other
large
projects,
we've
been,
we've
been
a
little
bit
given
a
little
grace
of
time
from
this
one
major
distraction,
but
I
suspect
we'll
be
seeing
that
coming
back
at
some
point
in
time
in
the
future
and
spending
more
time
on
that
with
a
whole
lot
of
residents
in
the
auditorium.
A
Talking
about
it
again,
so
I
I
understand
it's
a
little
frustrating
in
that
particular
in
that
sense,
but
you
know
for
me.
I
just-
and
I
need
to
remind
myself
to
be
patient
as
well
to
just
keep
moving
ahead
and
someday
we'll
you
know,
see
a
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
and
get
to
some
of
the
things
that
that
we'd
like
to
do,
in
other
words,
move
forward
rather
than
dealing
with
you
know,
trying
to
get
ourselves
reorganized
from
where
we
were.
A
I
guess
is
what
I'm
getting
at
so
is
that
it
is
there
any
other
comments
on
this
part
of
the
program.
D
Okay
back
to
you,
so
I
did
I
just
this
is
a
good
lead
way
into
this,
this
second
sheet,
so
we
have
talked
about
it
because
you
made
our
you
made
it
known
to
us
what
we
did.
We
brought
this
to
you
last
time
and
we've
refined
it.
What
we
did
was
a
lot
of
the
items
that
were
unfunded
that
we
heard
from
this
board
either
in
individual
meetings.
You
call
on
me
or
you've
expressed
it,
for
instance,
vice
mayor
luntz,
about
the
buildings
and
stuff
we
listened
to.
What
we
did.
D
D
Twos
could
probably
wait
a
year
or
more
to
do
and
threes
would
could
definitely
wait
a
little
bit.
So
in
the
time
from
the
last
meetings
you
know,
with
the
work
of
ron
departments,
we
have
found
funding,
all
the
ones
have
been
funding,
so
what
we
have
found
funded
that
wasn't
funded
in
your
last
budget
meetings
and
stuff.
The
heritage,
museum
replacement,
roof
the
heritage
museum,
ac
replacement,
we
funded
the
pnz
office
remodel.
D
D
D
Yeah,
the
city
manager
that
that
has
been
funded
again,
those
those
are
priorities
that
were
number
one
and
high
on
the
twos.
Going
to
the
second
page.
The
funding
for
the
sunset
beats
security
cameras,
one
that
came
from
you
know
the
commission.
We
have
found
the
funding
for
the
for
the
for
the
not
only
the
fencing
at
the
tennis
court,
which
we
already
had
funding,
but
we've
also
we've
also
put
into
the
penny
for
this
year
because
of
what
was
expressed
by
this
board.
D
Not
yet,
but
we're
working,
that's
on
the
that's
on
the
next
l
that'll.
Probably.
Can
that
probably
that
one
is
we're
thinking
we
can
incorporate
that
into
the
project
in
the
pricing.
We
can
incorporate
that
right
into
what
we
need
to
do
with
the
courts
and
stuff
the
sports,
complex
concession,
concession,
roof,
the
riverside
field,
concession
roof,
which
were
all
ones
let's
see,
so
those
are
what
there
are
still
twos
on
the
list
that
haven't
been
all
the
security
cameras
are
being
looked
at
to
find
a
pool
of
money.
D
Those
are
the
kind
of
next
things
we're
looking
at,
but
already
from
the
first
and
second
budget
work
session.
This
is
your
list
of
how
we
prioritize
them
and
how
we've
already
found
funding
for
now
october
1
for
a
good
portion
of
them
and
as
we
listen
to
you
and
add
more
to
the
list,
we'll
we'll
we'll
look
at
those
but
we've
we've
we've
done
that.
A
Okay,
commissioner,
eichner's
got
his
hand.
G
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
I
did
want
to
share
also
this
flex
pay
for
the
tarpon
ave.
I
don't
know
if
we,
if
we
do
this
or
not,
but
I
had
watched
a
you
know
when,
when
we
were
again
at
flc,
they
have
this
a
fiber
that
they
mix
in
it
extends
the
life.
It's
something
I'll
show
you
on
the
side,
but
they
show
you
before
and
after
because
it
stops
that
falling
apart.
That
happened
on
my
street,
where
it
meets
the
driveway,
extends
the
life
by
30.
D
E
Yeah
a
couple
comments
on
this
mark.
Thank
you
for
providing
an
update
on
this
and
obviously
keeping
up
the
buildings
that
we
have
is
imperative.
Something
I
brought
up
in
the
past
and
I'll
bring
up
again
is
I
do
think
metal
roofs
should
be
replaced
for
our
roofs.
If
it's
the
the
discovery,
playground,
concession
stand
or
if
it's
a
riverside
park,
roofs,
those
are
smaller
roofs.
The
longevity
of
a
metal
roof
should
be
almost
three
times.
What
a
regular
shingle
is.
E
So
I
mean
if,
if
we
could
find
some
additional
a
little
bit
more
funding
it,
doesn't
it's
not
going
to
cost
three
times
for
a
metal
roof,
what
it
costs
for
a
shingle
roof,
but
you
get
the
the
lifelong
longevity
out
of
it
and
we
want
to
spend
the
money
in
another
15
years
for
a
new
shingle
roof.
So
just
looking
forward
down
the
future.
A
Thanks,
let
me
commission
could
yes
go
ahead.
B
Mayor,
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
good
to
see
that
these
a
lot
of
these
projects
will
be
funded
in
the
priorities
ones
and
some
of
the
twos
at
some
point
this
year.
Oh
as
someone
who's
lives
close
by
to
riverside
field.
What
is
our
end
game
with
this
concession
stand?
I
I
know
it's.
It's
sat
there
for
a
while.
D
Question
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
right
now.
Is
there
I'm
open
to
suggestions
the.
G
D
G
B
A
A
You
that's
a
good
idea
vice
mayor
alone,
I
skipped
over
you.
D
That's
all
I
have
on
too,
and
I
really
miscellaneous
is
kind
of
set
up
for.
Is
there
anything
else
this
board?
Obviously
we
don't
ron,
doesn't
have
any
miscellaneous
because
he's
not
here
but
miss
lance
was
just
if
there's
anything
as
we
put
this
thing
finalize
this
to
our
two
publican,
which
is
the
public's
chance
to
talk.
That's
a
public
session
to
talk
about
the
budget
at
the
end,
we're
still
working
all
these
everything
complete.
So
I
really
don't
have
nothing
unless
the
board
has
anything
for
miscellaneous,
like
we've
covered
and
you've.
A
The
the
well,
let
me
just
ask
the
commissioners
vice
mayor
alone.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that?
I
have
no
comment,
commissioner.
Carr.
E
You
see
some
of
the
tour,
some
of
the
towers
that
we
have
locally
there's
one
at
cal
dc
that
was
just
built
recently.
There's
one
at
wall
springs,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
it
go
in
the
budget
this
year.
We're
asking
for
that,
because
I
think
we've
wrapped
that
up
pretty
good
but
looking
at
it
in
the
future,
putting
it
somewhere
on
the
line
of
how
do
you
have
a
structure
that
you've
got
a
ton
of
visitors
that
visit
the
sponge
docks
in
downtown?
E
You
have
a
lot
of
residents
here
locally,
but
you
can't
really,
I
guess,
enjoy
the
river
from
an
area
of
view
or
really
enjoy
what
we
have
out
there
and
I
think
they've
done
good
jobs
at
john
chestnut
park
and,
like
I
said,
kaladesi
and
wall
springs
with
these.
What
you
call
wooden
structures
basically
a
tower,
and
it
really
helps
ecotourism.
I
think
it
gives
the
residents
something
to
do
and
also
gives
tourism
something
else
to
do
in
the
city,
something
more
than
just
the
sponge
docks
or
the
park
or
the
beach.
E
So
I
do
think
it's
important
that
the
city
look
at
that,
like
I
said
it's
in
a
plan,
that's
already
somewhere
on
the
shelf,
but
I
know
it
is
a
good
chunk
of
change
for
cost,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
that
would
be
good
to
add
in
the
future
years
if
it's
24
or
25.
D
Yeah-
and
that
has
been
enough-
I've
been
working
on
that
for
a
while.
We
had
a
developer,
actually
come
in
and
was
going
to
make
a
dece
concession
to
build
one
for
us.
Although
the
developer
development
wasn't
very
good
so
so
we
didn't
end
up
developing
and
we
didn't
get
the
offer
to
tower,
then
we
went
to
look
at
it.
The
wall
springs
incident
happened
where
it
came
down
about.
You
have
to
have
the
ramp
now.
D
Of
a
sudden,
the
aba
requirement
vastly
increased
the
cost
where
we
had
the
shelf
it
again
to
do.
But,
yes,
that
has
been
talked
about
in
several
different
segments
of
of
of
thinking
about
and
would
be
something
we
we
have.
We
do
have
on
the
list
to
look
at
depending
on
the
board
at
the
time
we
get
it
and
and
the
projects
we
get
to
that
point,
possibly
something
like
that,
going
there
to
look
over
the
river
but
that
the
wall
springs.
You
know,
decision
on
ada
really
sent
the
scent
the
cost.
E
Spiraling
yeah,
I
know
they're
expensive,
but
again
we
have
to
look
at
all
facets
of
the
city,
not
just
roads
and
streets
or
not
just
fire
and
police.
So
it's
just
another
facet
that
I
think
that
the
city
has
an
area
to
enhance
in
the
in
that
area.
E
Coming
back
to
mr
mccoy,
thank
you
for
being
part
of
our
city's
advisory
group
and
leading
that
team.
I
really
appreciate
your
expertise
on
everything,
even
if
we
don't
agree
with
everything
that
you've
recommended.
I
really
appreciate
everything
that
you've
done
and
the
time
that
you
put
behind
it
and
also
ron's
a
great
guy
he's.
Not
here,
I
know,
he's
listening,
but
you
can't
be
a
great
guy
without
a
great
staff,
and
so
I
appreciate
you
all
that
are
here
tonight
and
appreciate
you
all
making
him
look
good.
E
So
with
that,
it's
obviously
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
conversations
with
the
three
budget
meetings
that
we've
had
as
a
board.
There's
a
lot
to
take
in.
I
know
you
guys
have
actually
the
commissioners,
you
all
have
asked
some
great
questions
and
I've
got
to
give
it
to
you.
So
thank
you
for
putting
in
the
research
and
the
diligence
in
this
there's
going
to
be
more
you're,
going
to
learn
more
throughout
the
year
and
learn
more
next
budget
season.
Two
so
I'd
say:
keep
it
up
thanks.
A
We
need
to
do
a
lot
of
work
in
that
regard.
We
don't
really
have
a
plan
for
it,
but
we
did
address
it.
This,
not.
I
think,
this
past
year
as
far
as
a
survey
that
was
done,
but
we
haven't
gone
beyond
that
and
then
also
there's
some
question
of
exactly
what
was
surveyed
and
should
we
expand
it.
For
example,
I
don't
think
that
the
cuts
between
some
of
the
barrier
islands,
which
provide
an
access
from
homes
built
along
the
back
side
of
the
barrier
islands
into
the
channel,
were
explored.
A
It's
just
these
sort
of
things.
We
need
to
kind
of
get
a
little
better,
organized
on
and
there's
some
other
things
as
well.
As
far
as
the
I
think,
the
the
recreational
part
of
the
city
and
and
a
lot
of
things
going
on
is
got
to
be
integrated
together
with
some
of
the
character
districts
that
we're
doing
union
academy
character,
district,
that's
being
worked
on.
There's
the
new
cra,
that's
been
created
for
the
the
union
academy
neighborhood,
for
example.
A
Ms
vincent's
observation,
which
I
think
is,
is
excellent
ex
establishing
that
carrot
that
cra
now
in
the
union
academy,
given
the
state
of
economy
that
is
in
right
now,
is
not
exactly
the
best
time
to
establish
one,
because
any
increases
in
incremental
value
of
property
tax
in
that
area
is
going
to
be
very
small.
So
we're
not
going
to
be
seeing
a
whole
lot
of
revenue,
especially
if
there's
a
downturn
in
the
economy,
and
that
goes
down.
We
may
not
be
getting
anything
at
all.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
real
issues
that
are,
I
would
call
them
challenges
more
than
anything
else
that
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
from
a
policy
perspective
and
understand
that.
So
I
I
really,
I
really
appreciated
everybody
focusing
in
on
specifically
what
the
city
manager
needed
tonight
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
followed
up
with
not
a
whole
lot
really.
A
You
know
some
of
the
things
with
mr
poulos,
for
example,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
anything
else
really
beyond
that
the
charter
officials
sit
down
and
talk
with
them
as
far
as
their
their
salary
adjustment
and
make
sure
they're
taken
care
of,
I
guess,
is
what
I'm
getting
at
from
from
that's
they're
our
employees.
A
That's
all
I
have
as
far
as
the
budget
and
is
there
anything
else
on
the
budget,
anything
else
on
the
budget.
For
many
of
you
go
ahead,
I.
A
It's
they're
re
they're
they're,
due
this
month,
okay,
yeah
and,
if
you
I
think
the
city
manager,
I
know
he
put
the
forms
on
your
the
daos.
I
think
two
or
three
meetings
ago,
so
they're
due
this
month
and
technically
that's
the
whole
idea.
You
do
the
review,
then
you
decide
what
you
know
the
the
salary
adjustment
ought
to
be,
but
I
think
most
people
know
what
that
is
and
comfortably
enough
to
kind
of
sit
down
and
talk
through
things
with
that
without
having
to
do
the
complete
review.
A
Yet,
is
there
anything
else
on
the
budget,
I'm
going
to
start
closing
the
meeting?
Yes,
okay,
so
what
we're
going
to
do
now
is
go
to
staff
comments.
Chief
young,
no
comment,
sir.
Let's
see
city
manager,
of
course,
irene.
Okay,
vice
mayor
lund,
do
you
have
anything?
Okay,
commissioner,
carr
yeah.
E
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Eisner.
G
Yes,
I
want
to
thank
the
city
for
sending
me
to
flc.
It
was
an
amazing
amazing
time
and
learning,
and
I
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
things
in
a
they
give
you
a
bag
at
every
different
pit.
Stop,
and
I
have
plenty
of
things
to
bring
back
to
the
city
as
far
as
even
in
you
know,
cyber
security,
the
the
flex
paving
and
quite
a
few
things
it
was.
I
I
think
that
was
somebody
from
our
group
should
go
once
a
year.
G
I
think
dunedin
had
everybody
all
their
commissioners
and
the
city
manager
and
all
there
I
don't
know
who
paid
for
it
all,
but
they
were
all
there.
It
was
just
you
know
you
get
to
see
more
new
items,
things
that
you
know
right
away.
You
know
that
it's
not
for
your
city
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
really
feel
are
super
helpful.
So
I
I
enjoy
it.
I
enjoyed
it
and
I
enjoyed
you
know
a
dinner
with
my
fellow
commissioner
as
well.
G
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do
for
the
city,
because
it
means
a
lot.
It's
it's
a
good
bonding.
You
know
they
asked
for
a
question
of
we
had
a
room
of.
I
think
it
was
about
200
people
and
they
they
asked
for
a
raising
of
hands
for
who
had
extra
money
to
spend
in
their
budget,
and
it
was
a
room
of
that
nobody
owned
a
hand.
G
One
of
the
things
I
did
have
a
conversation
this
morning
with
a
fellow
council
person.
You
know
we
were
speaking
about
how
people
leave
tarpon
to
go
to
holiday,
but
this
person
spoke
to
me
about
people
leaving
holiday
to
go
to
the
street.
So
it's
it's
a
very
interesting
thing
that
we
have
that
ability
to
go
from
tarpon
to
holiday,
but
the
people
in
in
holiday
and
new
port
richie
have
a
different
situation
and
they're
going
to
cars
into
streets,
so
inflation
is
no
fun
they're
going
to
cars.
Yes,.
A
B
I
also
want
to
go
commissioner
eisner's
comments.
I
want
to
thank
the
city
for
letting
me
be
a
representative
of
tarpon
springs
at
the
florida
league
cities.
It
was
the
100th
year
anniversary.
They
had
a
a
gala
that
was
beautiful.
It
was
something
I've
never
experienced
and
did
a
lot
of
networking
from
just
being
able
to
see
vendors
and
different
equipment
that
they
can
help
out
with
cities
and
one
I
was
really
interested
in
which
I
sent
an
email
to
the
city
manager.
Was
this
tiger
dam
system
that
could
help
retain
water?
B
I
don't
know
what
it
would
do
for
our
city,
but
it
was
just
something
to
look
looked
good.
I
was
also
able
to
network
with
a
lot
of
mayors,
commissioners
as
well,
and
and
when
you
get
to
hear
you
know
the
concerns
for
their
cities
and
compared
to
ours,
we're
in
good
shape,
we're
in
good
shape.
So
it
was
a
blessing
to
go,
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
at
some
point
go
attend
the
florida
league
conference.
B
A
I
want
to
thank
mr
mccloy
as
always
for
persevering
and
putting
up
with
us
both
at
the
budget
advisory
committee
and
also
what
you
hear
this
evening,
which
may
not
be
exactly
what
your
your
recommendations
are,
and
I
wouldn't
mind
sitting
down
with
you
sometimes
and
getting
some
feedback
from
you
as
far
as
what
you
think
personally
about
this
process,
so
maybe
I'll
have
trish
get
in
touch
with
you
and
set
up
a
meeting
with
that.
If
that's
okay,
I
also
want
to
thank
our
entire
staff
for
the
same
thing
as
well.
A
Not
just
you
know,
helping
with
the
numbers
and
everything
but
listening
to
what
our
issues
are,
what
our
ideas
are,
what
the
policy
is
and
then
taking
that
and
and
trying
to
actually
convert
that
to
something
that
means
something
to
you
in
terms
of
effort,
work,
money
and
then
assisting
the
city
manager
with
putting
the
budget
back
together
which,
as
well
as
with
mr
herring
and
I
wish
him
well
as
well,
I
hope
he
doesn't
have
the
symptoms
that
everybody
has.
I
I
haven't
even
heard
about
that.
A
I
guess
he's
okay,
yeah
yeah,
okay,
mr
herring
and
mr
liquorice,
as
far
as
putting
the
budget
back
together
and
bringing
that
to
us.
So
thank
you
all
also
tuesday
night,
the
bud.
The
agenda
has
not
been
published
yet
right
at.
A
Okay,
we've
got
some,
I
want
to
call
them
big
issues,
but
for
tuesday
night
and
it's
going
to
involve
some
sense
of
how
residents
feel
about
things.
We
have
the
restaurant
at
the
mouth
of
the
river
that
pasco
county
is
doing.
I
put
something
out
on
facebook
to
to
get
some
thoughts
on
that
coming
from
our
residents
and
that's
something
if
you
I'm
hoping
that
you
all
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
some
people.
The
sponge
docs
hotel
is
coming
back
and
it's
real
important.