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We
ask
a
special
blessing
upon
our
Police
Department
Comfort
them
protect
them
and
be
with
them
each
day
be
with
all
the
residents
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
the
visitors
they
come.
This
way,
we
remember
in
honor
the
memory
of
major
Michael
trill
tonight,
Comfort
his
family
friends
and
fellow
officers,
and
we
ask
all
these
blessings
and
your
holy
and
precious
name
amen.
D
A
About
a
week
ago,
I
read
where
Dunedin
put
a
time
capsule
in
the
ground
for
their
new
city
hall
and
tonight
we're
going
to
open
a
time
capsule
from
Tarpon
Springs,
so
I'm
going
to
call
some
friends
of
mine
that
I've
known
since
elementary
school.
If
y'all
could
come
forward,
you
know
who
you
are.
There's
five
of
you
sitting
right
there
and
I've
got
a
proclamation
to
be
read
tonight.
A
A
John
Cruz
manager
and
Michael
cormettis
coach
and
whereas
the
1963
Little
League
All-Star
team
from
the
small
town
of
Tarpon
Springs
shocked
all
of
Florida
and
Georgia
by
winning
six
straight
single
elimination.
Tournament
games
to
win
the
southeastern
United
States
region,
Southern
division,
the
Florida
state
championship
and
the
Florida
West
Coast
District
championship
and
ended
their
warning
winning
streak
in
Silva,
North
Carolina,
one
game
away
from
Williamsport
Pennsylvania
for
the
senior
Little
League,
World
Series.
A
A
It
was
a
community-wide
effort
to
keep
the
team
on
the
road
through
the
generosity
of
the
city's
business,
Community
leaders
who
recommitted
their
support
of
funds
for
food
and
travel,
and
even
the
Little
League
moms,
who
contributed
by
washing
the
players
uniforms
between
each
game
and
where
it
was
a
time
of
tumultuous
celebration
and
joy
with
the
town,
parades,
television,
appearances
and
newspaper
coverage
and
whereas
all
the
historical
details
of
this
Saga
are
well
known,
filled
with
challenges,
sacrifice
player,
injuries
and
special
moments.
Far
too
many
to
tell
here.
A
A
They're
a
little
weathered,
but
they're
well
preserved
after
60
years.
So
I
want
to
congratulate
everybody.
That's
here
we're
also
going
to
have
a
a
commemorative
evening.
July
29th,
I'm
gonna.
Let
Mike
explain
a
little
more
about
that
Mike.
Let
me
just
give
this
to
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Congratulations
guys.
E
Yes,
Saturday
night
at
the
house,
Club
at
six
o'clock
we're
having
a
a
reunion,
historic,
a
a
reunion
of
our
team
and
also
we're
going
to
include
the
the
founding
fathers
of
the
Little
League
that
started
62
years
ago
and
then
also
we're
going
to
have
the
president
of
the
Little
League
of
the
current
Little
League.
That's
going
to
come
and-
and
let
us
know
exactly
how
far
they
they
progressed
since
1961,
when
the
first
Little
League
team
played.
E
So
it's
going
to
be
a
fun
evening
and
very
interesting
evening
how
the
the
Little
League
finally
did
get
started
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
then
this
historic
run.
We
may
brag
the
most
successful
sporting
team
in
Tarpon,
Springs
history
for
60
years
now,
and
the
interesting
story
and
and
the
drama
and
the
the
the
interest
that
the
community
and
the
whole
state,
as
the
smallest
team
in
the
tournament
knocked
them
all
down.
So
we're
very
proud
of
that
to
this
day
and
it's
a
great
story
more
to
be
a
boring
evening.
E
E
A
E
Now,
there's
there's
five
of
us,
including
Costa.
There's
six
of
us
here,
there'll
be
a
couple
of
other.
The
players
out
of
town
that'll
be
coming
so
just
about
everybody
that
has
survived
is
going
to
be
there
and
we
lost
a
few.
E
A
few
players:
Mark
Brown
Fred,
Howard,
Jr,
James,
melson,
Tommy,
walberson
and
Jim
Nelson
I've,
passed
so
of
the
10
players,
I'm
Mark,
Brown,
Mark,
Mark,
Brown,
James,
Nelson,
Tommy,
Warburton,
Tony,
shell,
and
unless
it
anyways
I'd
mention
them
all
and
so
they're
they're
gone,
but
of
the
10
players.
Eight
of
us
will
be
there
that
that
survived.
E
Two
of
them
can't
make
it
but
and
there'll,
be
plenty
of
stories
and
plenty
of
stuff
and
again
we're
gonna
relive
the
what
an
exciting
time
it
was
for
everybody,
never
mind
us:
we've
lived
60
years
since
then,
and
we've
some
of
us
have
done
some
pretty
neat
things,
but
I
guarantee
you.
We
have
a
Brotherhood
with
us
at
home
and
I
call
them
we're
going
to
do
something.
Everybody
and
we're
going
to
try
to
get.
Also.
E
Our
coach
was
John
Cruz,
who
worked
for
the
city
all
those
years
and
and
I'm
not
sure
he's
going
to
be
able
to
make
it
I'm
going
to
work
on
him
he's
doing
pretty
good,
but
I'm
I'm
gonna.
Do
everything
I
can
to
get
him
at
that
thing
too,
and
he
was
Parks
and
Recreation
director
for
years
here
and
everything
else,
and
he
was
our
coach
and
the
way
they
chose.
E
The
coaches
were
the
first
top
two
teams
in
the
in
in
the
league,
their
First
Federal
who's,
John
Cruz's
was
coach
of
and
coach
and
I
played
for
in
on
First
Federal.
E
We
wanted
the
the
title
of
the
city
title
and
then
First
National
was
second
and
their
coach
was
Michael
kurameters
and
he
was
the
coach,
that's
how
that
was
that
was
all
put
together
and
all
but
we're
hoping
to
have
John
Cruz
there
too,
and
everything
else
and
he
I
know.
He
was
very
proud
of
that
moment
too.
G
Commissioner,
Heiser
has
some
more
questions:
the
no
I
I,
it's
a
it's,
a
wonderful
thing
that,
and
it
you
guys
won,
which
was
made
it
even
special,
but
regardless
of
what
you
did
on
the
field,
the
fact
that
you
have
friendships
that
have
lasted
60
years,
because
of
it
is
really
the
thing
that
all
youngsters
will
get
from
participating
in
sports,
lifelong
friends
and-
and
that's
really
the
most
important
thing.
So.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
residents
that
like
to
make
any
comments,
anybody
here,
Mr
jump
any
remote
access
comments.
A
I
Hello
good
evening,
Robin
Sanger
1630,
Lonesome,
Pine
Lane,
you
know
hearing
y'all
talk
about
baseball,
that's
the
time
the
community,
coming
together
in
joy
and
happiness,
losing
major
Trill
I
saw
the
community
come
together
with
sorrow
and
genuine
concern,
but
we
do
we
come
together
as
a
community
I'm
here
tonight,
as
founding
director
of
Peace
for
Tarpon
and
I.
Have
something
very
important
to
share
with
you.
I
have
shall
I
have
these
to
you.
I
So,
very
sadly,
many
of
us
have
known
or
lost
someone.
Who's
lost
a
loved
one
to
fentanyl.
This
tragedy
has
really
hit
home
here
in
Tarpon
Springs,
but
there's
something
we
can
do
on
August.
The
1st
peace
for
Tarpon,
in
collaboration
with
Tarpon
Springs
Police
Department
and
Tarpon
Springs
Fire
Rescue
are
holding
a
community
night
from
six
to
eight
at
our
library
to
help
educate
our
residents
about
Fentanyl
and
also
provide
Solutions
of
how
we,
as
a
community,
can
help
save
lives
which
might
otherwise
be
lost.
I
Dan
Zito
will
be
presenting
that
evening.
He's
retired
lieutenant
from
the
Sheriff's
Office
worked
in
drug
enforcement
for
many
years,
I
believe
Chief
young.
You
knew
you
know
him
he's
really
good
at
his
job.
I
went
to
the
epicenter
a
few
months
ago
and
saw
a
four-hour
training
that
participated
in
a
four-hour
training
than
he
did
about
this
very
subject,
and
I
knew
right
away
that
this
was
something
that
we
needed
to
bring
back
to
Tarpon
Springs
and
share
this
information
with
our
residents.
So
this
is
for
the
residents.
I
It's
not
a
professional
type
thing
it's
for
people
to
come
and
learn
and
understand.
The
statistics
aren't
good.
Pinellas
County
is
one
of
the
top
five
counties
in
Florida
associated
with
fentanyl
deaths
and
the
numbers
are
increasing.
Every
year
in
2020,
there
were
5
302
fentanyl
deaths
in
Pinellas
County
that
were
reported
and
that
number
has
grown.
We
need
to
reverse
this
trend.
We
know
that
knowledge
is
power.
We
know
that
healing
happens
in
community,
combining
the
two.
We
can
each
do
something
to
help
reduce
the
number
of
these
senseless
deaths.
I
I
J
J
J
I,
don't
really
really
get
happy
when
I
hear
board
members
say
that
future
of
former
boards
didn't
take
action
on
issues
while
they
were
mayor,
that's
not
true.
We
did
the
best
we
could
with
what
was
that
before
us
and
the
times
were
different.
Every
board
in
this
community
has
done
an
outstanding
job.
Every
commissioner
has
done
an
outstanding
job,
and
you
can't
say
we
didn't
do
right
because
we
did
right
for
the
time.
J
J
I
asked
nothing
in
the
city,
I,
don't
ever
recall
our
city
manager
saying
he
was
going
to
resign
or
you're
asked
him
when
he
was
going
to
leave
and
I
can
guarantee.
This
and
I
can
tell
you
you
can
hire
anybody
out
of
the
city
out
of
state.
They
don't
stay.
The
most
is
usually
three
years.
Four
years
the
most
I
went
through
three
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
one
didn't
want
to
work
with
a
Greek
woman
in
Clearwater
and
I
said
I'm
an
American.
He
says:
well,
I,
don't
like
working
with
a
Greek
woman.
J
I
said
you
don't
know
me.
Please
stay!
We
want
your
expertise
in
the
city,
but
he
wouldn't
stay.
The
second
one
got
caught
talking
to
the
hospital
when
we
were
in
the
lawsuit
to
save
our
Hospital,
giving
the
hospital
things
information
from
our
point
of
the
city
when
it
was
supposed
to
be
private.
With
the
attorney
I
went
to
the
attorneys
I
went
to
the
state
attorney
I
had
to
ask
him
to
leave
because
our
hospitals
in
Jeopardy
Costa
was
mayor.
Then
I
mean
city
manager,
the
other
one
just
left.
J
So
you
can
hire
a
new
city
manager,
but
you're
not
going
to
get
one.
That's
going
to
know
the
community
like
Mark
you're,
not
going
to
get
one.
That
knows
the
Greek
Community,
the
black
community,
our
community
at
Large,
like
Mark
they're,
not
going
to
stay
and
you're
going
to
have
problems
with
them
guaranteed.
Sometimes
we're
too
anxious
to
get
rid
of.
What's
good
Mark
has
made
some
mistakes.
We
all
have
made
some
mistakes,
but
you
have
to
learn
that
those
who
know
the
community
best
will
take
care
of
it.
J
L
K
Lane
Tarpon
Springs
Florida
last
meeting
y'all
May
mentioned
that
there
was
going
to
be
budget
for
I.
Think
a.
K
K
I
took
pictures
of
some
that
was
down
in
Highland
Park
of
a
spinning
chair
that
that's
like
for
kids
to
ride
on
and
spin
around,
and
there
are
other
Art
Exhibit
pieces
like
little
ponies
that
they
can
ride
with
I'm,
going
to
give
these
same
pictures
to
the
Art
Council
when
I
go
to
that
meeting
I
think
next
week,
but
I
want
to
recommend
that
the
city
consider
some
of
these
things.
The
spinning
chair,
the
Mr
locors
that
said
that
he
was
looking
to
a
ladder.
K
You
know
the
the
stairs
that
the
kids
climb
on
or
have
a
copy
or
a
picture
of
one
of
those.
That's
that's
creative!
It's
art
based
also
a
water
park,
because
it
knows
too
much
is
cumbersome
to
get
a
pool's
access
in
back
of
Dorset
Park,
but
maybe
you
can
do
a
water
park.
So
I
like
to
submit
these
pictures
to
the.
K
A
Miss
Taylor,
as
far
as
feedback
I
think
Chief
young
is
handing
them
to
the
clerk
for
the
record
and
I
think
the
city
manager
is
going
to
take
a
look
at
him.
I
I
know
you're
going
to
get
feedback
from
the
city
manager
on
this
I'm,
not
sure
through
either
himself
or
whoever
he
designates
that's
responsible
for
the
Recreational
Equipment
at
Dorset
Park.
You
want
to
comment
on
that
see
manager.
M
No
again,
we'll
look
at
again
with
all
the
other
suggestions
coming
in
for
the
budget
and
we'll
take
those
things
and
look
at
them.
Along
with
some
of
the
ideas
we
have.
A
K
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
Christine:
Warwick
I
live
at
1607.,
Lonesome,
Pine,
Lane,
Tarpon
Springs,
and
this
morning,
when
I
opened,
my
Facebook
as
I
found.
My
friend
of
mine
had
sent
me
something
that
said
having
a
middle
schooler
is
like
having
a
cat
that
only
comes
out
to
eat
and
hisses
at
you
when
you
try
to
be
nice
to
them.
L
So
any
of
us
who
have
had
a
middle
schooler
in
their
lives.
We
know
that
to
be
true,
so
I'm
representing
peace
for
Tarpon.
Here
we
have
another
opportunity
for
people
to
to
get
together
and
learn
some
things.
This
is
at
the
end
of
the
school
year.
We
were
made
aware
that
some
of
the
problems
from
home
were
coming
to
school
and
causing
A
disruption.
L
So
this
year
we
I
mean
this
summer
we
have
partnered
with
the
Hispanic
Outreach
Center
and
rotary,
to
bring
in
a
speaker
to
talk
about
things
like
healthy
conflict
resolution
being
a
good
neighbor
healthy
relationships
and
bouncing
back
from
bad
from
past
hurts
to
try
and
to
give
people
some
tools
to
work
with
the
problems
that
that
the
school
was
seeing
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
this.
We,
it
will
be
this
week
on
on
the
3rd
of
August.
A
O
Good
evening
Maggie
miles
433,
East,
Boyer,
Street
I
just
want
to
say
to
Chief
Young
and
the
Commissioners
the
mayor
all.
O
That
represent
Tarpon
Springs,
my
heartfelt
condolences
and
the
loss
of
a
major
Trill.
My
heart
goes
out
to
the
department,
his
family
and
also
the
staff
here
at
Tarpon
Springs.
My
other
comment
is
a
while
back
I
came
and
I
talked
about
the
Belcher
Road
Extension
distant
extension,
and
we
talked
about
a
maybe
a
survey,
some
type
of
petition,
to
see
how
that
extension
open
it
up
how
the
residents
would
receive
that
and
I
just
I
know
I
taught
them.
Commissioner
Cooley
is
he's
not
here
tonight
and
just
wonder.
O
Has
there
been
any
further
discussion
on
that
and
then
the
second
thing
I'm
just
hearing
about
the
city
manager
I,
would
hope
and
pray
that
if
that
is
the
case,
if
he's
we'll
be
entertaining
a
new
city
manager,
that
we
would
be
very
careful
in
our
search
and
bring
somebody
in
or
consider
someone
that
is
Diversified
I
asked
for
a
makeup
of
the
city:
employees
out
of
200
and
I
believe
30,
some
employees,
only
six
of
them
are
black
full-time
and
so
I.
O
Just
would
ask
that,
when
you're
out
doing
your
Nationwide
community-wide
county-wide,
whatever
search
that,
you
would
consider
that,
thank
you
and
have
a
nice
evening.
Thank.
M
Yeah
right
now,
right
now
we
did
the
initial
phases,
so
it'll
probably
be
sometime
after
October
when
we
start
setting
some
priorities
and
stuff
when
when
and
if
we
get
back
to
it
in
what
form.
But
you
know
earliest
it'd
be
October
November,
where
we
get
back
to
talking
about
the
different
things.
Okay,.
P
A
Other
thing
Ms
Mills,
you
might
want
to
drop
in
on
the
planning
department.
Sometimes
I,
know
that
there
was
a
a
a
concept
plan
submitted
to
Ford
Pinellas,
not
for
a
street,
but
for
some
things
that
sidewalks
and
a
pedestrian
Trail,
and
things
like
that.
That
would
get
people
to
the
if
I've
got
it
correct
to
the
College
from
the
neighborhood,
so
it
may
be
worth
learning
about
that.
I
saw
that
at
the
Ford
Pinellas
meeting
about
a
month
ago.
So,
thank
you.
D
504
Ashland
Avenue
and
before
my
time
starts
Ms
miles.
There
was
a
community
session
at
AME
Church
about
eight
months
a
year
ago
and
you
can
check
with
Renee,
but
there
were
all
these
diagrams
and
it
was
more
than
just
trails
and
stuff.
It
was
various
forms
of
trails
trails
with
roads,
only
fire
emergency
access.
There
was
like
four
different
plans
and
the
community
did
put
input
from
what
I
understand.
There
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
grant
that
we
received
for
some
initial
funding
for
that.
So
there
is
information
already
on
board
on
that.
D
At
the
meeting
where
you
had
last
week.
The
workshop
for
your
city,
manager,
replacement
and
I
was
going
to
say.
I
would
have
to
wholeheartedly
agree
with
former
mayor
Anita.
Produs
Mark
has
done
an
excellent
job,
given
the
conditions
that
he
has
been
given
over
this
time
period
and
as
Anita
said,
and
we
are
all
guilty,
we
all
have
sins
and
errors
and
God
will
give
us
forgiveness.
D
But
the
reason
I
mentioned
that
meeting,
because
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
mayor
vatic
yodis
mentioned
the
hearing
coming
up
on
August
11th
at
9,
A.M
I
believe
at
the
Pinellas
County
courthouse
on
Court
Street,
the
trash
they
know,
lawsuit
versus
the
city
at
Tarpon
Springs,
and
he
mentioned
that
you're
free
to
go
to
view
and
see
Justice
in
action.
D
D
P
D
D
For
this
very
reason,
Christ
died
and
returned
to
life
so
that
he
may
be
the
Lord
of
both
the
dead
and
the
living.
You,
then,
why
do
you
look
down
on
your
brother,
for
we
will
all
stand
before
God's
judgment
seat.
It
is
written
as
surely
as
I
live
says.
The
Lord
every
knee
will
bow
down
before
me.
Every
tongue
will
confess
to
God.
So
then
each
of
us
will
give
an
account
of
himself
to
God
next
Second
Corinthians
5
7
to
10.
D
D
We
live
by
faith,
not
by
sight.
We
are
confident,
I,
say
and
would
prefer
to
be
away
from
the
body
and
at
home
with
the
Lord.
So
we
make
it
our
goal
to
please
him
whether
we
are
at
home
in
the
body
or
away
from
it,
for
we
must
all
appear
before
the
Judgment
seat
of
Christ
that
everyone
may
receive.
What
is
due
him
for
the
things
done,
while
in
the
body,
whether
good
or
bad.
C
C
My
first
respondent
career
started
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
with
the
Tarpon
Springs
volunteer,
Memorial
Ambulance
Service,
as
some
of
you
might
remember.
Some
of
you
might
remember
that
when
it
first
started
years
ago
in
in
the
70s,
I
was
volunteered
there
and
later
when
it
became
a
paid.
C
The
agency
I
was
hired
there
after
spending
a
career
as
a
as
an
EMT
and
As
A
Firefighter
in
Palm
Harbor
in
Pasco
County
and
Port
Richey
I
work
for
bcpd
for
a
little
while
as
well
I
started
a
non-profit
call,
all
First
Responders
matter,
and
earlier
this
year
the
commission
board,
here
approved
of
a
car,
show
that
rotary
Rotary
Club
apartment
with
me
to
have
it
was
a
great
car
show
that
was
downtown.
C
C
Hopefully
we
can
repeat
that
next
year,
but
I
stand
because
the
organization
and
I
founded
all
First
Responders
matter
will
be
hosting
an
international
Conference
in
October
we're
expecting
anywhere
from
220
to
50
visitors
from
all
across
the
United
States
and
Canada
to
come
to
this
conference.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
the
facilities
right
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
to
hosts
them
here.
But,
however,
I
am
planning
a
Tarpon
Springs
Day.
C
We
have
four
charter
buses
that
will
bring
our
guests
to
Tarpon
Springs
and
we
plan
on
letting
them
get
off
the
buses
at
the
start,
at
the
sponge
exchange
on
Dole
canis
and
and
having
them
to
spin
an
afternoon
there
visiting
our
restaurants,
where
we,
when
we
pick
them
up,
we're
gonna,
make
sure
it's
it's
lunch
time.
So
when
they
get
to
the
Sponge
Docks,
they
can
visit
our
restaurants
down
there.
C
They
can
go
in
the
shops
down
there
and
we're
just
gonna
spend
the
evening
there,
and
then
we
will
take
them
to
we're.
Gonna
go
to
First
Night
Methodist
Church
later
that
day
for
for
dinner,
so
I
wanted
the
commission
to
be
where
to
be
aware
of
that
and
I
appreciate
that
everything
you
all
are
doing
in
up.
The
city,
of
course,
want
to
put
their
logo
on
the
material
that
we're
sending
out
Nationwide.
You
know.
C
Perhaps
we
could
work
with
the
city
manager,
whatever
marketing
department,
that
you
have
to
do
that.
That
will,
of
course,
help
enhance
giving
the
world
out
this
particular
conference
or
the
Federation
of
firefighters
of
the
Phillips
are
the
Federation
of
fire.
Chaplains
is
the
44th
annual
conference.
P
C
Be
their
first
time
coming
to
the
Tampa
Bay
Area
previously
in
in
the
80s
they
was
in
Miami
and
in
2015
there
was
a
West
Palm
Beach
I
have
traveled
around
the
country
and
out
of
the
country
with
this
conference
and
we're
pleased
to
know
to
say
that
they're
going
to
be
right
here
in
Tarpon
Springs
on
October
the
16th.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
organizing
all
of
that
Reverend
Smith
to
bring
them
to
Tarpon.
Springs
I
saw
your
email
earlier
today.
I
know
that
there's
some
things
that
you're
probably
going
to
need
to
help
in
setting
up
that
event.
Also
I
I
think
you're.
Looking
for
some
monetary
participation
as
well,
which
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
an
issue
rather
than
us
discussing
that
this
evening.
A
Q
A
A
Okay,
before
we
go
on
Mrs
miles,
I
I
called
you
Ms
Mills
I
apologize
you're
Mrs
miles.
So
thank
you.
A
Let's
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda
here
too,
if,
if
there's
just
some
comments
from
the
Commissioners,
if
we
could
go
ahead
and
do
that
in
approving
all
of
these,
if
there's
some
specific
questions,
I
want
to
ask
the
commissioner
to
pull
whatever
he'd
like
off.
Is
there
anything
that
the
commissioner
would
like
to
have
pooled?
Commissioner
Eisner
just
number.
A
A
A
S
A
R
My
question
was
just
first
two
questions.
First,
if
Ron
had
followed
up
with
the
insurance
loss
on
the
order
damage
and
was
any
of
this
flooring
affected
in
the
water
damage,
I'm.
Sorry
to
put
you
in
the
spot,
I
just
forgot.
N
An
evening
mayor,
Commissioners
out
of
the
HR
department,
is
still
looking
into
that
claim.
They
had
some
more
information
that
the
league
was
asking
for
on
that
claim
so,
but
it
didn't
affect
the
the
flooring.
R
A
Mr
jumper.
Are
there
any
public
items,
comments
on
item
nine.
G
Make
a
motion:
we
accept
item
nine
of
the
consent
agenda,
I'll.
A
T
A
Mayor
vatic,
yes
case,
7
14
and
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
special
consent
agenda
item
11,
authorized
city
manager
to
execute
form,
dr4204,
dr420tif
and
form
dr20mm-p
and
city
manager.
Of
course,
I
guess
Mr
Hank's
going
to
talk
about
it,
you're
going
to
explain
what
this
is
all
about:
right,
correct,
okay,.
N
A
Let's
go
to,
let
me
just
help
out
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
maximum
millage
rate
that
the
city
will
set
for
this
fiscal
year
coming,
and
this
has
to
be
reported
to
our
to
who
well.
N
A
A
A
Q
A
M
This
I
just
introduced
this.
Obviously
we've
talked
about
this.
We
had
an
executive
session
on
it.
We
know
our
goal
this
year
was
that
we
could
not
get
behind
the
increases
of
other
departments,
and
we
wanted
to
get,
as
we
say,
on
the
good
side
of
middle,
not
be
the
highest,
not
be
the
lowest
and
be
above
middle,
so
we
can
still
compete
in
both
this,
the
police
and
the
fire,
which
I
think
you'll
see
the
the
next
meeting.
M
We
work
together
to
look
where
all
the
other
departments
were
going.
We
looked
at
what
we
needed
to
get.
M
Was
a
very,
very
good
negotiation
of
working
together
and
one-sided
another
lot
trying
to
low
ball
high
ball
of
that
just
get
to
the
place
where
we
needed
to
be
and
again
within
the
financial
resources.
We
have
it's
a
very
heavy
contract
the
first
year.
Obviously,
because
that's
where
the
catch-up
is,
we
are
so
far
behind
it's
very
hard
to
compete
and
we're
not
going
to
get
there,
but
it
averages
out
over
three
years
as
you
can
see,
it
was
ratified
pretty
substantially.
M
Q
This
contract
puts
us
where
we
need
to
be.
You
know
at
a
starting
pay.
It
also
rewards
the
officers
for
their
hard
and
dedicated
work
every
day,
and
you
know
it's
appreciated
by
all
the
members.
I
think.
Just
as
the
city
manager
said,
the
45
to
2
vote
reflects
that.
Okay.
A
U
Good
evening,
Jake
Miller
Suncoast
police,
benevolent
Association
director
for
Tarpon
Springs
Police
Department
I
also
serve
as
a
Corporal
with
the
police
department,
on
behalf
of
nearly
50
members
covered
under
the
collective
bargaining
agreement.
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
your
continued
support
of
our
agency
to
the
mayor,
Commissioners
city
manager,
chief
of
police,
as
well
as
the
staff,
the
city's
bargaining
team.
We
appreciate
your
continued
support,
your
time
and
your
effort
in
this
contract
negotiation
collectively,
our
Focus
was
driven
on
retention
of
current
officers
and
recruitment
of
new
officers
to
our
agency.
U
I
feel
wholeheartedly
that
both
bargaining
teams
supported
this
goal
throughout
our
talks.
Ultimately,
our
collaborative
approach
resulted
in
a
contract
that
we
can
all
be
proud
of
to
my
membership.
That
I
represent.
Thank
you
for
instilling
your
trust
in
the
pba's
bargaining
team.
We
are
always
proud
to
support
and
represent
you
all,
which
you
can
see.
Some
of
them
are
here
again
thank
you
for
your
support
and
anticipated
ratification
of
this
collective
bargaining
agreement.
So
again,
thank
you
all
for
your
your
time
and
effort
with
all
that.
A
Thank
you
corporate.
Let
me
go
to
public
comments
and,
if
there's
any
questions
from
Corporal
Miller,
we
can
come
back
to
that
after
that,
are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
this
item.
D
Fear
relax514,
Ashland
Avenue
seems
to
be
a
very
fair
and
honorable
agreement
and
I
just
would
like
to
follow
up
from
Corporal
Miller's
words.
There
was
a
Spirit
of
cooperation
and
collaboration
where
everybody
was
looking
to.
You
know,
do
the
best
for
both
sides
for
the
citizens
and
the
police
officers
and
the
firefighters,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
the.
P
D
They've
said:
oh,
you
can't
have
unions
in
government,
but,
as
you
see
it
does
work
so
I
just
want
to
applaud
all
those
in
the
past.
Who've
fought
some
have
suffered
and
even
in
some
places
in
the
past
have
died
to
have
union
rights
for
the
workers
to
be
able
to
enjoy
some
of
the
fruits
of
what
is
provided
to
us.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
let
me
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
we'll
go
to
questions
and
comments
ocean
to
approve.
R
Go
ahead,
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know:
Corporal
Miller
I
enjoyed
the
meeting
with
you.
I
personally
feel
from
my
heart.
There's
no
amount
of
money
that
this
board
could
approve
worthwhile
to
what
you
guys
and
gals
do.
R
This
is
probably
the
best
that
can
be
done
with
the
funds
that
are
available,
but
personally
there's
no
there's
no
amount
of
money
that
you
can
put
on
a
person's
life
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
You,
the
expression,
is
you
run
out
the
bullets
not
from
them
and
I
want
you
to
know,
I
appreciate
you
big
time
and
I'm
going
to
be
there
to
support
you,
while
I'm
in
office.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
what
you
do,
commissioner,.
G
Mark
was
actually
the
chief
when
I,
when
I
got
on
the
board,
so
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
supporting
the
officers-
and
you
know,
especially
this
is
more
appropriate
than
ever
given
major
trills
service
that
was
so
moving
to
have
so
many
people
come
and
honor
us
an
officer,
and
it
shows
you
know,
there's
no
higher
calling
in
life
than
service
to
others
and
then
there's
those
very
few
exceptional
people
that
choose
service
as
their
career,
so
I
have
nothing
but
respect.
G
I
I
also
thought
at
Major
trills
funeral
service
that
you
guys.
None
of
you
are
going
to
get
rich
being
police
officers.
G
Even
with
this
raise,
it's
you're
not
going
to
get
rich
being
a
police
officer
financially
rich,
but
you
will
be
rich
Beyond
money
because
the
send-off
that
major
Trill
God
was
you
know
a
millionaire
or
billionaire,
wouldn't
get
what
he
got
and
so
having
honor
is
far
more
important
and
I
think
that
youngsters,
you
know
in
this
in
this
world
now
of
of
Fame
for
fame's
sake
and
everything
about
you,
know,
Financial,
being
rich
and
being
pretty
or
being
you
know
again
famous
for
the
sake
of
being
famous,
and
then
you
have
what
you
guys
do
and
I
hope
more
kids
want
to
emulate
you
than
them
and
I
just
want
to.
A
T
I
think
we
reached
an
equitable
excuse
me,
an
equitable
agreement
I
like
the
fact
that
we've
redid
the
steps
the
raises
are
good
overall
I.
Think
it's
a
great
plan
going
forward.
T
You
know
that
I
always
support
the
police
in
this
town
from
Rank
and
file.
All
the
way
up
to
the
brats
and
I
will
continue
to
do
so
in
any
way.
I
possibly
can
so
I'm
incredibly
impressed
with
the
the
amount
of
ratification
we
got
from
the
PPA.
That
was
heartening
for
me
just
want
to
wish
you
all
well
be
safe
out.
There.
A
Okay,
thank
you
just
for
a
little
additional
information.
The
current
plan
expires.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
Chief
September,
30th
2023-
and
this
is
a
three-year
contract-
is
that
correct,
which
that's
correct,
three-year
contract
that
expires
October,
1st
2026,
so
this
doesn't
just
include
an
adjustment
for
the
first
year,
but
for
the
second
and
third
and
hopefully
that'll
hold
for
those
three
years.
So,
secondly,
I
think
that
obviously
this
was
a
very
transparent
exercise
from
cities.
Halls
City
Hall's
perspective.
A
There
wasn't
any
issues,
hiccups
or
anything
like
that
and
I
think
that
had
to
do
with
communication
between
the
city,
the
police
department
and
the
the
police
Union
early
on,
and
also
your
briefing
of
the
commission
as
far
as
what
the
issues
were
were
extremely
helpful
as
well.
For
me
personally,
I
really
want
to
thank
the
chief
of
police
and
also
our
Union,
for
putting
section
6
in
there.
A
I
think
that's
important,
I
still
call
it
ProPay,
but
I
know
it's
something
else
where
people
are
going
to
be
paid
for
a
little
more
money
for
those
professional
skills
that
they
give.
So
thank
you
all
and
I.
Don't
have
any
further
questions
and
if
there's
no
further
comments,
we
have
a
second
and
a
motion
in
a
second,
so
roll
call.
Please.
A
B
B
A
A
Just
hang
on
until
7
30.
yeah,
our
our
rules
of
procedure
require
us
to
begin
the
ordinances
and
resolutions
at
7,
30
and
right
now.
It's
7
28,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
hang
on
for
just
two
minutes,
so
we
can
get
started
on
those
those
shouldn't
take
too
long
and
then
we'll
be
back
to
the
consent.
Agenda,
special
consent
agenda,
beginning
with
item
13,
which
is
award
the
file
number
230139,
Electrical
Instrumentation
control
system
services
that
it's
largely
for
the
reverse
osmosis
plant.
A
A
P
A
V
202305
in
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida
amending
the
future
land
use
map
for
6.71,
Acres,
more
or
less
of
real
property
located
at
44098,
U.S,
Highway,
19,
North
and
land
use,
designation,
RoR
residential
office
retail
to
land
use,
designation,
CG,
commercial
General
and
P
preservation,
providing
for
findings
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
that
is
ordinance.
202305
read
by
title.
Only
on
first
reading
second
reading
will
be
August
8
2023.
M
W
Thank
you.
This
is
application
22-141.
If
you
recall,
the
board
has
reviewed
this
actually
twice
before
most
recently
at
the
meeting
of
June
13th,
and
you
asked
that
it
go
back
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
put
some
additional
information
have
been
brought
into
the
record,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
picking
up.
So
this
is
application.
22-141.
W
And
again,
as
I
stated,
this
has
been
through
several
iterations
to
get
where
we
are
today,
most
recently
at
the
July
17th
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
hearing
it
was
reheard
and
recommended
for
approval,
so
the
application
this
is
ordinance
23-05.
It's
a
future
land
use
map
Amendment
for
about
6.7
Acres
of
property
on
North
us
19..
W
W
And
so
this
is
just
the
aerial
showing
the
the
location
of
the
site.
If
you
had
Northern
Tool
across
the
street,
Caliber
Collision,
Brittany,
Park
Townhomes
to
the
South
and
then
commercial
and
Warehouse
office
type
uses
on
the
other
side
of
the
Pasco
County
Line,
a
survey
of
the
property
one
of
the
complicating
factors
of
the
site.
Is
this
100
foot
wide
Duke
power
easement
that
bisects
the
property
which
does
make
the
development
a
little
more
challenging
and
just
as
the
context
of
the
future
land
use
in
the
area?
W
You
know,
preservation
to
the
West
residential
office
of
retail
is
the
kind
of
the
predominant
on
this
segment
of
US
19.
Although
you
have
an
industrial
General
piece
across
where
the
Caliber
Collision
is
now
on
the
county-wide
plan
map.
This
is
consistent
with
the
retail
and
services
category,
both
the
current
and
the
proposed
land
use.
So
no
changes
to
the
county-wide
map
are
needed.
W
W
The
the
commercial
General
would
open
up,
mostly
As
conditional
uses
some
additional
things
that
are
not
currently
available
under
the
commer
under
the
residential
office,
retail.
That
would
be
things
like
storage,
Warehouse,
commercial
recreation,
light
manufacturing
things
of
that
nature.
The
other
major
difference
is
the
difference
in
the
floor
area
ratio,
which
is
just
the
amount
of
building
that
you
can
put
on
the
property.
Essentially,
the
floor
area
ratios
would
increase
from
0.20
of
2.30
on,
as
it
is
now
up
to
a
maximum
of
0.40.
W
The
land
use
would
be
4.45,
but
the
existing
zoning
of
Highway
business
limits
it
to
0.40.
So
it
does
allow
for
additional
building
square
footage
to
be
built
on
the
property.
It
also
doesn't
allow
an
additional
increase
in
the
impervious
surface
area
on
the
site.
W
The
highway
business
zoning
District,
which
is
currently
what
the
property
is
zoned,
is
our
most
intensive
commercial
district
and
it
does
allow
for
a
range
of
commercial
retail
office
and
some
light
industrial
type
uses.
The
heavier
ones
would
be
a
required
conditional
use.
Review.
Multi-Family
residential
is
only
allowed
with
conditional
use
review
on
the
site.
So
that's
one
of
the
problems
with
the
residential
office.
Retail
category
requires
a
mixed
use,
including
residential
Highway
business,
throws
it
into
a
conditional
use
criteria
and
is
not
as
encouraging
for
it.
Just
to
recap
the.
W
If
the
amendment
is
approved,
the
additional
potential
uses
on
the
property.
Again,
you
know
bowling
alleys,
commercial
recreation,
light
printing
would
be
the
additional
uses.
My
right
again,
it's
really
a
retail
zoning
designation
and
then
again,
I've
already
talked
about
kind
of
these
additional
conditional
uses
that
would
come
into
play.
If
that
commercial,
General
land
use
is
approved,
we
do
have
a
review
for
consistency
with
Florida
Statutes.
This
is
a
small
scale
Amendment,
it's
not
an
area
of
critical
State
concern,
so
there
are
no
issues
there.
We
have
a
review.
W
I
won't
go
into
this
in
depth.
In
the
in
the
staff
report
of
the
applicable
goals,
objections
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
as
I
stated,
the
the
commercial
General
category
will
eliminate
the
requirement
to
have
resident
a
residential
component
and
it
would
open
up
some
additional
floor
area
and
some
additional
uses
subject
to
conditional
use
review.
W
W
So
additional
information
that's
been
brought
into
the
application.
There
is
a
private
agreement
between
the
developer
and
the
Britney
Park
Townhomes
homeowners
association
that
full
agreement's
been
provided
in
the
backup
at
the
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting
the
HOA
membership
president
was
in
attendance
and
he
did
speak
in
support
of
the
land
use,
change.
W
The
city
is
not
a
not
a
party
to
this
agreement,
just
the
highlights
of
what
the
agreement
includes
an
eight-foot
wall
and
fence
along
the
property,
with
additional
screening
per
our
Land
Development
code,
limiting
the
height
of
the
building,
pad
immediately
adjacent
to
the
neighboring,
to
the
to
the
residential
development,
to
a
single
story,
22-foot
building,
limiting
the
actual
uses
of
that
building,
pad
that's
immediately
adjacent
to
the
town
homes,
so
eliminating
some
of
the
more
impactful
uses.
Things
like
fast
food,
Car,
Wash
I
do
want
to
save
for
the
record.
W
The
other
thing
that
was
brought
into
the
record
was
that
was
asked
for
was
you
know,
a
general
concept
plan,
so
Brittany
Park
Townhomes
are
to
the
South.
This
would
be
retention
area,
the
commercial,
this
commercial
retail,
building
that
they're
referring
to
this
would
be
the
limited
to
the
22
foot.
W
You
know
one-story
building,
and
this
is
where
the
uses
would
be
further
restricted
by
the
agreement,
a
potential
retail
building
to
the
to
the
north,
fronting
on
US-19
and
then
potentially
storage
like
Mini,
Storage,
personal
mini
storage,
on
the
remainder
of
the
property.
Again,
just
for
the
record,
the
concept
is
a
concept:
it's
not
a
condition
of
approval
in
any
way,
but
obviously
it
provides
us
a
reference
point
moving
forward
and
then
just
a
sample
of
this
is
an
actual
storage
facility.
W
I
believe
that
the
developer
has
actually
built
on
another
site,
so
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
approve
ordinance,
2023-05
amending
the
future
land
use
map
from
residential
office,
retail
to
commercial
General,
NP
preservation
at
the
July
17th
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting.
The
board
did
ultimately
vote
4-1
to
approve
the
application.
There
were
still
some
concerns
expressed
regarding
potential
impacts
of
that
additional
building
area
that
could
be
put
on
the
site
and
I
believe
that
they
have
a
representative
here
to
speak.
W
A
W
P
W
U
P
R
Okay,
when
there
was
one
vote,
excuse
me
there's
a
frog:
there
was
a
negative
vote
against
it.
Yes
was
there
any
reason,
given
of
findings
of
fact
of
why
that
was
like
that.
W
I,
don't
recall
anything
specifically
being
discussed.
I
believe
Mr
Seaman
may
be
able
to
address
that
I'm,
drawing
a
blank
on
the
voting,
no
member
as
to
whether
they
provided
any
findings
of
fact
for
their
vote.
Okay,.
T
Just
qualify
my
understanding,
the
additional
information
that
was
provided
since
the
last
time
the
board
heard
this
was
an
agreement
that
doesn't
involve
the
city.
That's
only
for
25
years,
probably
should
be
in
perpetuity,
but
that's
between
them
and
a
conceptual
plan.
That's
as
ephemeral,
as
the
paper
turned
on,
because
it
could
change
tomorrow.
T
A
I,
don't
have
any
questions
I'm
going
to
go
to
Mr
Seaman
Mr
SEMA,
if
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
state
the
planning
zoning
commissions
basis
for
approval
I
would
assume,
is
what
you're
going
to
State
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
commission
comments
for
our
questions
for
Mr
Seaman
go.
X
Ahead:
okay,
I'm
Merlin
Seaman
from
1161
Marina
Drive
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I'm
speaking
today,
as
the
chairman
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board,
my
fellow
members
ask
that
I
come
today
to
briefly
explain
our
position
on
the
item,
and
this
is
in
no
way
an
attempt
to
sway
you
guys
decisions
one
way
or
the
other.
Quite
honestly,
we.
X
Kind
of
on
the
bubble
on
this
one
but
anyways,
we
did
ultimately
vote
four
to
one
to
approve
the
application,
but
the
deliberations
were
more
complicated
than
that
vote
might
indicate.
The
owner
developer
has
worked
hard
with
the
staff
and
the
neighbors
to
try
and
ease
the
concerns
about
the
project.
Both
the
boc
and
PNC
has
been
seeing
the
project
for
several
months,
as
you
guys
well
know.
P
X
Certainly
still
had
some
concerns,
we're
pleased
to
hear
that
the
owner
developer
came
to
a
mutually
acceptable
agreement
with
the
neighbors
but,
as
was
said,
the
city's,
not
a
party
to
the
agreement,
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
there
still
are
other
concerns
that
a
number
of
us
had.
Originally
several
of
us
had
doubts
about
whether
the
change
from
the
RoR
was
really
necessary,
ultimately,
after
exploring
that
further
I
think
most,
if
not
all,
board
members
were
convinced.
The
property
is
not
the
right
place
for
residential
development.
X
The
restrictions
that
Duke
places
on
the
property
because
of
the
power
easement
would
make
that
difficult,
if
not
impossible.
Initially,
there
also
was
some
thought
that
Duke
might
never
use
the
easements
since
it's
been
in
place
for
many
years,
but
not
ever
been
built
in.
But
it's
now
my
understanding
that
they're
in
the
process
of
preparing
to
use
the
easement
in
the
near
future.
X
So
so
it
appears
it
definitely
is
going
to
have
high
power
electric
lines
in
it
within
a
relatively
short
period
of
time.
From
what
I'm
told
several
of
us
were
concerned
by
the
increase
in
the
floor
area
ratio
more
than
anything
else,
probably
from
as
low
as
0.2
to
as
much
as
0.4,
that
would
be
allowed
by
the
change,
and
some
of
us
wondered
whether
a
lower
intensity
commercials
land
use
might
be
more
suitable.
X
The
preliminary
site
plan
presented
at
our
meeting
served
to
provide
some
board
members
with
a
better
level
of
comfort
with
the
proposal.
Although
we
were
all
well
aware
that
the
site
plan
is
not
a
part
of
our
review
criteria
to
me,
the
plan
makes
it
very
obvious,
though,
when
you
look
at
it
that
the
floor
area
ratio
is
certain
to
be
relatively
low
because
of
the
restrictions
placed
on
the
site
development
by
the
easement.
X
In
addition,
the
discussion
regarding
a
large
indoor
storage
facility
making
up
a
significant
portion
of
the
square
footage
helped
to
quell
some
concerns
about
traffic
generation.
As
the
biggest
concern
we
had
about
the
floor
area
ratio
was
allowing
any
more
floor
area
to
be
built
on
an
artery.
That's
already,
as
we
all
know,
an
F
level
of
of
operation,
and
we
don't
want
to
add
traffic
generation
under
any
circumstances
in,
in
addition
to
this,
I
think,
probably
really.
X
What
carried
our
decision
more
than
anything
else
was
that
you
guys
and
and
the
pnz
board
will
get
another
opportunity
to
review
the
final
site
plan
before
anything
is
built,
and
we
made
it
clear
that
we'd
be
looking
closely
to
ensure
that
the
future
site
plan
makes
sense
and
is
compatible
with
all
the
requirements
anyways.
If,
if
there's
further
questions,
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
them.
A
Oh,
let
me
ask
the
commissioner
whether
you
have
any
questions
for
I
vice
mayor
you've
got
your
light
on
any
go
ahead.
Commissioner,
Eisner.
R
X
It
appears
from
what
I'm
told
that
that
they're
in
the
process
that
they've
been
out
there
surveying
and
getting
ready
to
start
setting
poles
or
equipment,
whatever
you'd
call
it
have.
G
A
A
Okay,
okay,
Mr
Seaman,
the
the
compatibility
from
the
pnz
board's
perspective
for
the
site
plan.
I
know
that
there
is
a
compatibility
issue
that
was
dealt
with
as
far
as
the
the
land
use
amendment
that
we're
considering
now
also
when
the
site
come
site
plan
comes
in
that
compatibility
is
for
the
site
plan
as
well.
A
So
it's
kind
of
the
same
but
different
way
of
looking
at
it.
The
use
may
come.
The
use
may
come
in
with
consistent
with
what
is
what
is
allowed
there.
But
if
it's
10
pounds
in
a
five
pound
sack,
then
we're
talking
about
compatibility
again
for,
for
whatever
is
proposed,
do.
A
Y
Gentlemen,
my
name
is
Matt
Chandler
I
am
one
of
the
developers
with
Moses
Tucker,
Partners,
74
or
62
divot
Loop
in
Lakewood,
Ranch
chairman
actually
gave
exactly
what
was
presented
at
the
planning.
We
had
really
three
issues.
One
was
a
neighbor
issue.
Two
was
far
and
three
was
traffic
generation.
Let
me
deal
with
those
individually.
Y
We
went
through
two
two
TRC
committee
meetings
had
the
regular
comments
from
TRC
really
nothing
negative.
We
had
City
staff
support
when
we
went
to
the
first
Planning
Commission,
so
we
really
didn't
think
we
had
a
problem
at
that
meeting.
The
neighbors
voiced
their
objection.
The
first
thing
we
did
is
we
left
this
room.
We
walked
outside
and
we
said,
hey,
let's
sit
down
and
figure
this
out
and
that's
what
we
did.
It
took
us
from
February
27th
to
June
7th
to
get
an
agreement,
and
it
wasn't
because
it
was
adversarial.
Y
It
was
because
it
just
takes
time.
I'm
not
I
was
not
dealing
with
just
one
property
owner
I
was
dealing
with.
Multiple
I
was
dealing
with
an
association
and,
as
you
know,
in
Florida
associations
has
processes
and
protocols,
so
it
just
took
some
time,
but
they
are
here
tonight
the
the
president
of
the
association's
here
tonight.
So
you
can
ask
him
his
support.
I
think
and
I
know
that
we
have
that.
Y
The
far
the
chairman
of
the
planning
asked
me
a
question
and
I
don't
know.
I
can't
verbatim
tell
you
what
that
question
was,
but
it
was
similar
to
something
to
the
effect
of
how
much
of
the
ratio
are
you
going
to
use?
What
how
much
of
the
far
do
you
think
you're
going
to
use
and
I
answered
the
question
with
I
really
don't
know
and
having
thought
about
that
for
a
little
bit
after
I
left
I
wished
I'd
answer
it
a
little
differently.
Y
Y
Here's
how
I
would
have
answered
that
question
if
I'd
have
thought
about
it,
a
little
more,
the
answer
is
I,
don't
know,
but
do
I
think
we're
going
to
go
over
the
point
to
far.
Yes,
do
I
think
we're
going
to
maximize
the
far
a
0.40
I,
really
don't
think
we
are
now
I.
Don't
just
say
that,
because
I'm
trying
to
get
something
approved,
let
me
draw
your
attention
to
the
site
plan
for
just
a
minute
that
easement
is
640
by
100.
Y
That's
almost
an
acre
and
a
half,
it
is
real
and
we
have
had
discussions
with
Duke.
They
are
planning
to
span
the
major
transform
there
and
they
do
not
want
residential
there.
So
they,
so
you
may
ask
me:
well
how
can
they
control
what
you're
doing
on
this?
Not
only
do
we
have
to
have
your
approval,
but
we
have
to
have
Duke
approvals
of
Duke's
approval
as
well.
Why.
Y
What
we
said
as
developers,
we
said
you
know
what
we're
problem:
solvers,
that's
what
we
have
to
do.
So
we
told
Duke.
We
said
I
tell
you
what,
since
you
all,
have
this
easement
we'll
run
our
interior
Road
right
down
the
middle
of
your
easement,
and
they
said?
Oh,
no,
oh
no,
you
won't!
You
won't
touch
our
easement.
Not
only
will
you
not
touch
our
easement,
you
can't
even
have
your
retention
Pond
touch
our
easement
and
we're
like
well.
Y
Do
you
realize
how
many
thousands
of
cars
run
up
and
down
your
road
that
touch
your
easement
every
day?
I
mean
they
said?
No,
so
what
does
that
Force
us
to
do
that?
Forced
us
to
put
an
interior
Road
someplace
we've
either
got
to
go
to
the
north
of
the
easement
or
south
of
the
easement.
It
does
not
appear
that
the
south
of
the
easement
is
the
best
route.
Why?
Because
we
run
into
the
retention
Pond
and
we
run
into
the
flood
area,
so
that
puts
the
interior
road
on
the
north
side
of
that
easement.
Y
Well,
what
does
that
do
to
this
lot
too?
Well,
but
by
the
time
I've
meet
my
requirements
for
parking
and
meet
my
requirements
for
my
setback.
That
lot
is
very
small.
Y
Well,
what
does
that
do
to
my
lot
on
the
South
Side
by
the
time
I
meet
my
requirements
of
the
setbacks
and
my
parking
requirements
that
reduces
this
amount,
because
I'm
up
against
the
easement
and
I'm
up
against
the
retention
pond.
N
Y
Hundred
foot
easement,
that
is
real
I'm,
going
to
come
back
to
planning
with
a
site
plan
very
similar
to
this,
is
it
going
to
be
exact?
No,
but
is
it
going
to
be
very
similar?
Yes,
and
so
I
am
I.
I
can
say,
and
I
would
have
said
to
the
chairman
of
how
had
I
thought
about
it
or
given
the
opportunity
to
think
about
it.
Do
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
over
the
0.2.
Yes,
do
I
think
I'm
going
to
be
to
the
max.
Y
No
one
other
thing:
we
talked
about
traffic
generation,
no
matter
what
happens
on
this
site.
It's
going
to
generate
traffic,
I
mean
that's
just
the
reality,
but
what
we've
done
from
day,
one
Renee
has
been
very
transparent,
Renee
and
Ali
and
Pat
have
been
very
transparent
about
the
city's
concern
about
traffic
on
highway
19..
So
one
of
the
things
we
did
is
we
said.
Okay,
what
can
we
do
to
minimize
the
traffic
generator?
Well,
a
storage
facility
is
a
very
low
traffic
generation,
and
so
we
think
that
the
compatibility,
the.
P
Y
Chairman's
talked
about
compatibility,
we
think
we've.
We
think
we
have
done
a
good
job
at
being
compatible
compatible
with
the
what
the
city
would
want
compatible
with
what
the
neighbors
would
want
and
compatible
what
we
can
do
as
Developers
so
I'll
stop
there
answer
any
questions
or
clarify
any
comments.
Be
happy
to
do
that
are.
Y
Y
Y
You're
not
and
and
we
as
developers,
we
have
to
abide
by
that
anybody
that
buys
that
is
going
to
have
to
abide
by
that
and
again
this
is
going
to
be
a
a
fairly
substantial,
substantial
structure
that
we're
going
to
spend.
We
think
we're
probably
going
to
spend
in
excess
of
300
000
on
that
wall,
which
is
quite
a
bit
and
and
at
that
point
you're
really
talking
about
painting.
R
Do
you
have
any
written
anything
any
emails
from
Duke
Energy,
letting
you
know
what
their
decisions,
what
their
plans.
Y
As
far
as
their
plans
are,
the
only
thing
I
can
tell
you,
commissioner,
is
our
owner,
has
gotten
correspondence
from
duke
saying
that
they
are
going
there.
There's
a
possibility
that
they're
going
to
use
that
this
easement
and
our
conversations
with
Duke
they
have
indicated
that
they
are
going
to
start
before
the
end
of
the
year.
Y
Now
I
don't
want
to
come
up
here
and
say
that
and
then
they
don't
start
till
next
year
and
that
me
being
misleading
you,
but
their
trucks
are
on
the
site
right
now
prepping
and
to
tell
you
when
they
are
going
to
start.
I
cannot
do
that,
but
it
is.
The
easement
is
real.
It's
a
1943
easement
and
it
is.
It
is
going
to
be
used
for
from
all
indications.
R
Well,
that's
the
concerns.
I
have
honestly
that
you
know
I'm,
not
saying
anybody's,
not
saying
the
truth,
but
I
like
to
say
from
the
show
me
state
and
a
written
statement
is
so
much
better
than
just
the
verbal
statement.
So
I'm,
not
questioning
what
you're
saying
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
there's
no
problems
down
the
road.
R
Pretty
much
all
of
the
above
I
mean
I
I
need
to
know
before
I
give
or
my
approval
on
it.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
in
agreement
with
Duke
Energy,
just
like
I
want
to
know
that
you're
in
agreement
with
the
homeowners
association,
because
we're
not
part
of
this
that's.
Y
Correct
what
I
would
tell
you,
as
far
as,
if
are
we
in
agreement
with
Duke
Energy
we're
gonna
like
I,
said
we're
going
to
not
only
have
to
please
the
city
and
planning
and
and
made
all
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
requirements,
this
site
plan?
A
T
Light
I'm.
Sorry:
did
you
hear
that
last
statement.
Y
Yes,
sir,
and
and
mayor
if
I
could
read
just
a
brief
statement
from
duke
to
our
civil
engineer:
I
don't
want
to
take
up
any
as
much
time
but
I
think
I
can
answer
that
question.
Y
Y
From
Monday
June
20th
2022,
dear
Scott,
Scott
Lincoln
is
our
civil
engineer.
As
we
previously
discussed,
Duke
Energy
does
have
plans
to
build
a
230
kilowatt
V
line
within
the
easement.
That
goes
through
the
parcel.
So
yesterday.
Y
T
P
T
Thank
you.
That's
as
far
as
I
want
to
go
as
far
as
the
Eastman
gold,
you
said
that
Duke
had
told
you
so
far.
They
don't
want
any
use
on
that
easement
at
all,
and
yet
you
have
crossed
paths
to
the
southeast.
That's
correct
commercial,
retail
building!
You
have
shown
boat
storage,
that's
on
the
easement.
Y
T
T
Y
We
certainly
can
we
certainly
can
visit
that
I
mean
we
can
visit
that.
T
G
I
had
the
same
question
on
the
roadway,
the
two
roadways
that
if
Duke
does
not
allow
you
to
have
those
roadways,
then
that
lot,
one.
Y
G
Normally
well,
I'll
save
it
I'll
save
that
for
a
commissioner
comments
after
the
motion.
Thank.
A
Z
AA
Vince
Manor,
president
of
Brittany
Bob
Townhomes.
My
address
is
925
Ozzie
Court
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida.
If
you
guys
got
a
piece
of
paper
I'll
give
you
the
project
manager
of
this
operation,
because
I
spoke
to
her
two
weeks
ago,
Nancy
Carpenter,
her
phone
number
is
282
570-9024.
AA
They're
not
waiting
they're
there,
they're
already
ripping
through
whatever
you
want
to
call
The
Preserve
the
easement.
The
jungle
they're
already
got
that
thing
open
at
least
50
feet
across
and
they're
bringing
out
right
now.
All
the
wood
that
they're
mulching
through
and
down
is
probably
now
up
to
those
windows
as
they
pull
it
out.
They're
grinding
it
they're
moving
they're,
not
when
I
talk
to
this
lady,
she
said
they're
doing
it.
AA
I
asked
well,
what's
the
height,
she
said
well,
I'll,
send
you
a
picture
because
I
told
her
there's
an
empty
pole
across
on
the
east
side
of
19..
She
said
no.
These
are
a
little
bit
bigger
because
they're
obligated
to
keep
280
feet
away
from
our
residential
homeowners
building
and
that's
what
the
problem
is
of
trying
to
put
any
residential
on
that
side.
You
can't
because
of
the
power
lines,
but
that's
the
lady
I
spoke
to
that's
the
project
manager
of
Duke,
the
one
that's
doing
this
operation.
AA
If
you
want
that
information,
Nancy
Carpenter
as
far
as
anything
else
we're
in
agreement,
it
took
us
a
little
while
because,
like
anything
else,
is
a
lot
to
consider,
the
primary
concern
of
our
residents
was
security.
So
that's
why
there's
an
eight-foot
wall
going
down
past?
Well,
five
foot
past
the
last
building.
That's
on
that
line,
and
then
the
rest
is
an
eight
foot,
Barbed
wise
fence
and
maintaining
the
fence,
which
is
every
10
years.
AA
It
has
to
be
painted,
which
is
the
same
as
rhoa
painting
code
that
we
abide
by
other
than
that
we're
in
agreement.
It
gives
my
community
security
because
now
that
whole
thing
will
be
secured,
whereas
both
prior
now
it
isn't
I've
had
to
call
code
sheriffs
to
move
homeless,
people
that
are
camping
on
it,
vagrants
that
are
just
mowing
around
it.
AA
So
that's
where,
where
we
would
what
we
were
concerned
about
as
far
as
the
length
of
time,
whatever
it
takes
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
their
project,
we're
in
agreement
just
because
what
we've
agreed
to
just
protected
our
community?
That's
why
we
only
wanted
the
one
story.
We
didn't
want
any
tire
shop,
all
that
low
type
of
noise
level
for
the
nine
residents
across
the
property
line.
A
Thank
you,
sir
okay.
Good.
Let
me
go
to
commission.
Let
me
can
you
hang
on
to
that.
Let
me
finish
with
public
comments.
Are
there
any
other
public
comments.
AB
I
want
me
to
speak
page
10
of
60
of
the
backup
material
zoning
consideration
going
to
HB
Highway
business
quoted
if
amendment
is
approved,
additional
potential
uses
permitted
by
right,
Transportation
terminal,
and
there
was
a
citizen
at
a
previous
meeting
when
this
came
before
this
board.
Previously
in
a
few
weeks
ago
mentioned
something
about.
We
have
to
be
very
aware
of
the
potential
plan
of
Duke
Energy
with
transportation
terminal.
AB
AC
AC
Noise
stuff,
like
that
that
would
interfere
with
the
lifestyle
of
our
homeowners
and
with
the
wall
on
the
fence,
will
give
us
more
security
to
not
allow
anybody
on
the
on
the
property
to
just
walk
over
into
our
community.
So
I'd
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
looking
out
for
Brittany,
Park
Townhomes
and
coming
to
this
agreement.
We
feel
that
it's
it's
good
for
everybody,
it's
good
for
the
the
company.
That's
putting
the
businesses
up
there
and
I
think
it's
good
for
us.
So
thank
you.
H
H
AD
Thank
you
yep
good
evening
board
and
Commissioners
and
those
in
attendance
Peter.
The
lack
is
514
Ashland
Avenue.
This
is
not
a
anything
in
favor
or
against
this
project.
I
know
it's
a
difficult
piece
of
property
to
work
with,
and
there
are
some
safety
concerns
when
you
got
a
230
kilovolt
kilovolt
line
going
through
these
properties.
As
far
as
from
the
site
plan,
I
saw
I'm
really
think
it's
deficient.
The
way
they
have
the
RV
storage
in
the
back.
AD
For
someone
who
knows
how
to
pull
a
camper,
it
does
not
look
like
there's
enough
room
to
get
in
to
get
out
to
make
turns
to
back
in
and
that
so
I
think
that
part
of
this
pipeline
is
deficient,
but
going
back
to
one
of
the
questions,
I
think
commissioner
koulianos
mentioned
it
about
the
time
frame.
What
my
curiosity
is
is
this
agreement
also
has
other
factors
in
there.
Besides
the
wall,
it
restricts
the
size
of
the
building
footprint
adjacent
to
them,
and
it
also
restricts
the
types
of
businesses.
AD
So
I
guess
my
concern,
and
maybe
attorney
Salzman
can
answer
it
is
I
would
think
this
would.
Agreement
should
be
in
a
restrictive
covenant,
but
it
goes
with
the
land
and
it's
not
just
agreement
with
any
type
of
land
use
or
site
planting,
so
just
to
make
sure
any
Agreements
are
there
in
perpetuity
and
understood
by
all
in
the
future.
AD
I
would
suggest
maybe
a
restricted
Covenant,
but
yes,
this
is
a
difficult
property,
and
this
is
a
difficult
judgment
as
to
whether
to
put
people
in
this
type
of
an
area
where,
from
what
the
gentleman
says,
Duke
plans
on
putting
power
lines
through
there
and
230
or
200
kilovolt
lines
are
not
good
for
ones
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
At
this
time,
okay,
thank
you
I'm,
going
to
close
public
comments,
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
commission
comments,
commissioner
Eisner
go
ahead
and
follow
up
with
Mr.
R
A
I,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
utilities
are
special,
yes
classification,
where
they
don't
need
permits.
Okay,
I,
like
the.
A
G
Normally,
I
I
don't
think
it's
our
job
to
create
value
for
somebody's
property.
When
it
has
challenges
like
this,
you
know
we
need
to
do
what's
in
the
better
good
of
our
of
our
community,
given
that
the
fact
that
the
homeowners
are
in
agreement
with
this
concept,
I
would
again
tend
to
be
in
favor
of
at
least
passing
it
through
the
you
know
the
this
this
the
first
reading
and
again
we'll
have
time
in
future
readings
and
when
a
project
actually
is
brought
before
us
to.
A
Okay,
president
I
was
going
to
say
there's
a
second
reading
and
I
know.
The
Commissioners
have
asked
for
some
additional
information
I'm
sure
there
may
be
some
additional
discussion
with
Mrs
Vincent
among
some
of
the
Commissioners
and
and
and
I
understand
the
comments
here.
If
there's
no
other
further
comments
or
commission
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second-
and
this
would
be
for
the
first
reading.
A
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
hand
the
gavel
I
just
want
to
get
this
off
the
table
so
that
the
staff
can
not
have
make
a
living
out
of
this
I'll
go
ahead
and
second
that,
and
so
let
me
have
it
back
now.
That's
my
motion.
D
A
Okay,
I'm
I'm
in
my
second
to
reflect
the
the
Motions
change
commissioner
comments.
Any
further
comments.
AE
Z
B
A
Yes,
basically
for
the
purpose
of
the
developer,
tutu
means
that
the
ordinance
has
been
denied
on
the
first
reading,
Ms
Vincent
as
far
as
coming
back.
If
the
developer
chooses
to
do
that,
is
there
a
cool
off
period
for
that,
or
is
that
completely
up
to
the
city?
A
W
Is
a
quasi-judicial:
it's
not
quasi-judicial
something
about.
V
W
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
let
the
developer
contact
the
planning
department
to
you
know
determine
what
happened
this
evening.
Ms
Vincent
can
explain
everything
to
you
so.
A
W
A
Okay,
ordinance,
the
the
second
one
is
resolution,
2023-24
budget
resolution,
City
management
course.
Yes,.
M
V
N
Ron,
okay,
mayor
Commissioners
budget
resolution
2023-24
is
being
brought
before
you
to
budget
for
items
that
were
not
previously
budgeted
for
in
fiscal
year,
2023.
I've
listed
the
items
in
the
cover
letter.
A
good
portion
of
the
larger
items
are
due
to
capital
projects
requiring
additional
funding
and
some
other
items
approved
by
the
board.
If
there
are
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them.
A
Are
there
any
public
comments
concerning
this
item?
This
is
a
budget
resolution
adjusting
the
amounts
that
were
approved
to
what
was
actually
spent.
H
A
Okay,
if
there's
no
comments
from
the
public,
closed
public
comments
and
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
so
moved.
Second,
okay,
there's
no
further
commission
comments.
Roll
call,
oh
I,
have
comments.
T
Ron
I
have
I
have
a
little
bit
of
issue
with
fund
137
Transportation
impact
funds.
The
figures
on
that
particular
detail.
T
So
I'm
I'm
curious
as
if
I've
got
the
right
one
I'm
curious
as
you
got
from
a
total
revenue
of
231
331
to
336
898.
that
just
escaped
me
and
I'm
I'm,
not
an
accountant,
so
I
could
be
missing
something,
but
it
just
didn't
look
to
add
up
to
me.
T
Looking
at
the
Transportation
impact
for
traffic
fund,
137
transportation,
in
fact,
fund
expenditures
on.
N
Yeah
we've
got
the
original
budget
of
200
204
750
we're
increasing
at
132
148..
T
I
understand
that,
from
from
a
expenditure
point
of
view,
what
I
don't
understand
is
how
the
revenue
matches
up
with
that.
N
Part
of
that
for
the
for
the
Mango
Street
is
129
500
to
cover
that
grant
for
that
project
and
the
balance
is
a
2
648
dollars
coming
out
of
cash
carryover.
The
reserves.
T
T
The
transportation
204
750
in
the
original
budget,
we
increased
it
132
148
to
make
336.
on
the
revenue
side,
though,
what
we're
showing
is
99
403
increasing
at
132
148
to
a
total
balance
of
231
551
and
I.
Don't
understand
where
the
extra
where
you,
where
you
add
99,
403
and
end
up
with
204
750
on
the
bottom
line.
There
I
just
I
miss
that
there's.
N
A
A
Yes,
okay,
let's
go
back
to
I,
want
to
take.
G
A
break
yes
can
I
make
a
motion
for
a
short.
Can
I
ask
for
a
short
recess.
A
On
we're
going
to
recess
for
there,
you
go
read
your
cheat
sheet.
We're
gonna,
take
a
brief
recess
and
reconvene
at
8
32.
foreign.
A
The
next
item
is
back
to
the
special
consent
agenda
item
13
award
file,
number
230139,
Electrical,
Instrumentation
control
system,
Services
city
manager.
Of
course.
Yes,.
M
AE
AE
AE
This
award
contract
is
for
a
five-year
period
effective
from
the
date
of
award
an
estimated
total
amount
over
the
five-year
period
not
to
exceed
955
thousand
dollars.
Funding
for
this
would
be
from
the
water
and
sewer
Enterprise
fund,
both
wastewater
treatment,
plant
and
Ro
facility
budgets.
Thank.
A
A
H
A
You
any
commissioner
comments.
Oh
let
me
have
a
motion
in
a
second
then
we'll
go
to
comments.
A
Is
there
a
second
okay?
Are
there
any
commission
comments
on
this
side
of
commissioner
coulianos.
A
Are
there
any
other
commercial
funds,
Mr
Smith
I,
just
have
one
question:
have
you
made
your
presentation
to
everybody?
Yes,.
AE
A
AF
Bob
issued
start
out
yes,
sir
good
evening,
I'm
Bob
Robertson
project
administration
department,
director
for
this
item,
we'll
be
presenting
a
brief
update
on
The
Whitcomb
Bayou
Coastal
resiliency
project.
This
presentation.
This
is
a
presentation
that
was
shared
with
the
sustainability
committee
last
week,
I'm
here
tonight
with
PJ
Harbert,
our
grant
project
specialist
Doug
stoker
is
here
who
has
worked
on
several
iterations
and
spin-off
projects
in
this
in
this
area.
AF
Over
the
years
from
stantec,
formerly
cardinal,
the
bulk
of
the
presentation
will
be
given
by
representatives
from
arcadis
Melissa
Hughes
the
project
manager
and
will
start
us
off
and
Paul.
Wilanski
is
the
principal
civil
engineer,
the
update's
going
to
cover
proposed
project,
Design
Elements,
estimated
construction
costs
and
an
update
on
the
proposed
grant
funding
strategies.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Melissa.
AG
Good
evening,
I'm
Melissa,
as
Bob
mentioned,
and
we're
excited
I'm
looking
forward
to
giving
you
an
update
on
Whitcomb
Bayou,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
recap
the
Alternatives.
The
analysis
that
we
went
through
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
one
that
was
settled
on
talk
about
some
Project
funding
and
then
jump
into
questions.
If
you
all
have
any
I'm
going
to
turn
up
with
Paul
to
get
into
this
piece
of
it.
AH
So
about
back
about
a
year
ago,
we
we
prepared
some
alternatives
to
to
alleviate
the
flooding
around
with
them
by
you,
and
we
held
a
public
meeting
to
get
the
input
from
the
public
and
several
of
the
residents
who
live
around
with
come
by.
You
attended
the
meeting,
and
these
were
the
oh.
These
are
the
Alternatives
that
we
presented
to
the
public.
AH
Sorry
in
the
in
the
top
left
corner
we'll
have
we
proposed
a
A
t-wall,
or
that
looks
like
kind
of
like
a
jersey
barrier,
a
wall
around
the
Bayou,
and
that
would
that
would
have
floodgates
that
you,
you
could
go
through
to
access
the
docks
there.
So
that
was
one
option.
A
second
option
in
the
bottom
left
corner
was
a
earth
berm
around
the
Bayou,
and
that
actually
was
the
the
option
that
the
the
residents
around
the
Bayou
preferred
the
most
because
they
had
most
aesthetically
pleasing
aspects
to
it.
AH
The
other
third
option
was
raising
the
road
around
the
Bayou
and
that
we
provide
a
natural
barrier
by
elevating
the
road
from
the
from
the
ocean,
rising
ocean
waters
or
bio
Waters
and
then
in
the
bottom
right
corner.
AH
Where
we
talked
about
and
hybrid
alternative,
where
some
areas
that
we
had
the
Earth
berm
in
some
areas,
we
had
a
t-wall
because
there's
different
different
right-of-way
widths
around
the
Bayou
that
so
that
could
accommodate
either
the
berm
or
the
t-wall,
because
the
t-wall
takes
up
less
space
than
the
earth
burn
if
they
go
wrong
way.
AH
So
the
so,
our
team
investigated
the
right
way
around
the
Bayou
and
we
did
some
modeling
to
see
where
the
we
were
looking
at
the
10-year
flood
elevation,
because
the
fellow
elevation
is
at
5.8
feet
and
to
give
you
an
idea
that
the
roadway
around
would
come
by.
You
is
about
elevation
three,
so
that
would
create
that.
Would
a
10-year
flight
event
would
create
about
three
feet
of
water
above
the
roadway.
So
the
the
the
figure
on
the
left
of
the
screen.
AH
The
we
show
that
the
area
in
red
is
the
area
that
of
that
the
of
the
flood
protection
we
propose
around
with
kumbayu
and
then
starting
up
here
in
Craig
Park
and
then
coming
around
the
Bayou
and
then
leading
up
to
polis
lean
and
if
we
install
the
protection
in
those
areas
around
the
red.
The
red
line
is
that
would
protect
all
the
area
in
surrounding
the
Bayou.
So
you
see
here
so
this
is
all
the
area
that
would
flood
without
that
protection.
AH
And
then,
if,
if
you
install
the
flood
protection,
then
all
this
area
around
the
body
would
be
protected
so
from
Craig
Park
to
a
polis
Lane
by
the
church
here.
So
you
might
ask
well
why?
Why
are
we
trying
to
protect
this
area
as
well?
So
as
you
go
further
north
in
the
Northeast
northeast
corner
of
the
Bayou,
the
city
and
county
right
away
ends,
and
you
have
more
residential
property
around
the
here.
So
let's
see
we
have
to
so
you
can't
isn't
able
to
install
berms
or
t-walls
around
the
residential
property.
AH
So
please
for
our
modeling.
It
made
the
most
sense
to
end
the
end.
The
and
the
and
the
t-wall
or
the
earthworm
in
that
in
that
street
paulus
lane
to
and
protect
the
most
properties
we
possibly
could.
AH
So
here's
a
little
closer
up
view,
so
we
have
to
in
order
to
make
this
project
successful.
We
have
to
provide
provide
a
multiple
of
different
options
around
the
berm
around
the
Bayou,
so
we're
in
green
the
green
areas
we
have
where
we
propose
the
the
Earth
sperm
and
the
bio.
Then
some
areas
of
the
of
the
of
the
right
of
way
around
the
Bayou
are
too
small
for
Earth
berm
to
to
fit
so
we're
proposing
t-wall
t-wall
in
these
short
sections
here,
but
in
yellow
and
then
over
by
paulus
Lane.
AH
Here
we
propose
a
raising
the
road
there
to
naturally
block
the
block
of
Centennial
violation
there
and
then
so
then,
there's
also
a
the
canal
system
here
in
the
in
this
in
the
southwest
Southeast
corner
of
the
Bayou,
and
so
we're
proposing
a
a
stop
log
structure
at
that
right
in
front
of
the
bridge
there
to
prevent
mortars
from
coming
in
through
the
under
the
bridge
and
then
flooding
behind
our
flood
protection
system,
so
that
that's
needed
there
as
well.
AH
AH
We
also
want
to
let
the
commissioner
commission
board
know
that
we're
going
to
be
incorporating
a
living,
Shoreline
aspects
into
the
project,
there's
mangroves
around
the
body
right
now
and
those
who
will
try
not
to
disturb
them.
If
they
have
to
be
disturbable,
we
will
want
to
replant
them
as
natural
protection
or
around
the
Bayou.
AH
This
is
what
I
mentioned
about
the
stop
log
structure
in
front
of
the
bridge
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
Bayou.
This
is
an
example
of
stop
log
panels
in
front
of
a
navigation
lock.
So
this
is
navigation
lock
here,
and
these
would
be
the
panels
that
would
be
that
could
be
placed
like
in
front
of
the
bridge.
So
during
when
there's
no
storm
event,
you
wouldn't
see
anything
there
and
then,
if
a
storm
was
approaching,
then
the
city
would
mobilize
below
I
have
to
have
to
store
the
stop.
AH
Log
structure
struck
like
pieces
somewhere,
and
then
you
have
to
bring
out
some
heavy
equipment
to
lower
them
down
and
solve
them
from
the
bridge
before
before
upcoming
storm.
So
this
is
just
an
example
of
what
those
panels
look
like.
This
is
both
both.
These
are
navigation
lock
by
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
then
some
of
the
some
of
the
cost
of
these
elements.
The
Earth
berm
around
the
around
the
wall
will
be
about
2.6
million.
AH
The
areas
of
t-wall
and
Earth
berm
would
be
about
1
million
the
row
raising
it
would
be
about
a
half
million
dollars.
The
stop
log
structure
actually
is
one
of
the
more
expensive
items
about
six
million
dollars:
the
aqua
fence
by
the
boat
Ram
by
25,
000
design
and
investigation
costs,
including
geotechnical
investigation
survey,
environmental
costs
about
600
000
for
a
total
of
approximately
10.8
million
for
the
entire
project.
AH
AG
AG
Typically,
when
you're
doing
BCAAs
and
you're
getting
a
benefit
cost
ratio,
anything
at
one
or
above
is
considered
cost
beneficial.
So
1.9
is
is
a
good
number
to
be
at
the
table
below
the
benefit.
Cost
ratio
shows
the
avoided
damages,
so
we
did
calculate
avoided
damages
for
residential
structures
as
well
as
non-residential
structures.
The
majority
of
the
project
area
is
residential,
so
the
majority
of
the
benefits
and
avoided
damages
will
be
seen
in
the
residential
category,
and
then
you
can
see
there
that
total
avoided
damages
is
approximately
33
million.
AG
We
also
did
a
social
vulnerability
analysis
just
to
figure
out
what
would
be
the
social
impacts
of
the
project,
any
any
negative
as
well
as
positive
impacts.
We
use
the
cdc's
social
vulnerability
index
and
that
includes
a
whole
number
of
things.
The
numbers
that
you
get
once
you
do
the
index
calculation
is
a
composite
of
socioeconomic
factors
such
as
income,
gender,
age,
Transportation,
minority
status,
Transportation
Transportation,
but
housing
type
as
well.
AG
So
all
of
those
things
get
factored
in
to
give
you
a
value,
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
see,
but
the
key
there
shows
what
those
values
are.
So
the
darker
colors,
the
blue,
indicates
more
social
level
socially
vulnerable.
The
lighter
colors
are
less
socially
vulnerable,
so
the
majority
again
of
the
structures
here
are,
do
not
fall
within
a
high
social
vulnerability
index
value
again.
AG
A
lot
of
these
are
in
our
residential,
so
we
don't
expect
a
lot
of
social
impacts,
but
we
did
want
to
calculate
just
to
make
sure
that
we
were
doing
our
due
diligence
in
terms
of
social
impacts,
and
then
we
do
want
to
kind
of
touch
on
some
next
steps
and
how
we
could
potentially
get
the
project
funded.
There's
a
number
of
different
opportunities
out
there.
At
the
moment,
some
of
the
ones
that
we
are
considering
is
the
NOAA
climate
resilient
resilience,
Regional
challenge
our
grant
Specialists
just
put
in
a
notice
of
intent.
AG
For
that
another
one
is
the
resilient
Florida
program,
we're
also
looking
at
the
community
development
block
grant
programs
as
well
as
potentially
brick.
We
should
note
that
these
funding
opportunities
become
available
on
Cycles,
so
they're
available
annually
and
all
of
the
work
that
we
did
for
this
project,
all
of
the
analysis,
the
design,
the
social
vulnerability,
the
BCA.
AG
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
there.
M
A
T
T
Yelled
out
my
lights
on
so
I
have
a
one,
pretty
straightforward
question:
it
is
actually
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
get
back
to
the
slide.
You
mentioned,
avoiding
a
non-residential,
structured
contents
damages
figure
in
there
and
I
just
wondered
what
that
comprised.
AG
Okay,
so
you
were
you're
stating
that
there
aren't
any
non-residential
structures
there
is
that
am
I
understanding
the
question.
AD
AG
Correct
yeah,
there
are
a
few.
There
is
a
church
there
as
well
as
I,
think
maybe
a
few
others
and
we
can
get
the
exact
list.
T
All
right,
thank
you.
That's
that's
all
the
questions
I
have
for
that
particular
part.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
somebody
about
the
stop
log,
I
guess.
My
first
question
is
because
it's
such
a
major
part
of
the
cost
component
of
this
are
there
other
cities
that
are
currently
using
this
process
to
stop
it.
I
I,
looked
at
a
couple:
I
can't
remember
the
names
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Most
of
them
I
looked
at
kind
of
looks
like
they
defrayed
this
to
something
else
because
of
the
cost
of
the
stop
log.
T
AH
Most
of
the
stuff,
like
structures
I've
seen,
are
we
used
either
by
the
south
Florida
Water
Management,
District,
that
they
use
it
to
dewater
their
structures
for
maintenance
or
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
We
did
look
at
actually
several
other
options
with
the
city
of
of
gates
that
could
be
lowered
down
in
place
or
raised
up
the
the
problem
with
those
is
they're
even
more
expensive
thoughts.
AH
T
Understand
so
I,
just
wonder
I
just
so.
These
are
kind
of
a
manual
thing
right.
We
break
those
down
when
we're
expecting
this
storm,
but
I
just
didn't
know
who
else
was
using
them?
If
you
could
some,
you
know
somehow
provide
to
our
departments
or
whatever
some
references
as
to
who
was
using
that
it
would
go
a
long
way
to
make
me
feeling
happier
about
spending
six
million
dollars
now
the
other.
Well,
the
other
thing
I
guess
is
not
really
for
you.
T
But
just
exactly
not,
for
you
does
anybody
here
got
an
idea
of
what
raising
sea
walls
cost
on
a
per
foot
type
basis,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
what
we're
doing
with
this
stop
wall
is
protecting
the
community,
mostly
behind
it.
AI
Correct,
but
in
the
grant
scenario
we
looked
at
so
one
of
the
ideas
it's
throughout
Pinellas
throughout
the
State
of
Florida,
is
to
raise
the
sea
walls
and
require
an
ordinance
that
requires
that
the
new
sea
walls
to
be
placed
at
a
higher
elevation,
so
you'd,
say
well,
fine,
all
those
those
bridges
past
I'm.
Sorry,
all
those
residents
has
passed
the
bridge.
We
could
just
raise
their
Seawall.
We
we
can't
do
that
under
the
grant
funding.
AI
We
can't
make
the
the
raising
of
the
sea
wall
part
of
the
the
benefit
that
that
comes
with
the
project.
We
can't
force
the.
AI
Right
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
would
be
the
one.
So
the
long-term
solution
is
that
as
those
sea
walls
get
replaced,
they
would
be
replaced
at
an
elevation,
five
or
higher
this.
This
study
was
done
at
5.8.
Normally,
when
we've
designed
sea
walls
for
the
city,
we've
designed
them
to
be
elevation,
five
we'll
build
them
at
elevation
three
with
a
chance
to
to
be
raised
to
five,
but
but
we
could
do
that
in
an
ordinance
to
5.8.
That
would
be
a
longer
term
solution
and
you
wouldn't
need
to
stop
logs.
T
Okay,
so
this
is
this
is
a
5.8
and
it's
10-year
right
to
cover
a
10-year
correct.
What's
the
difference
between
just
for
my
edification
between
a
10-year
and
100
year,.
AH
AH
T
T
R
Thank
you
mayor.
Some
of
my
questions
were
answered
by
the
Vice
mayor's
questions
you
have
here.
Earth
berm
of
4
320
feet
is
that
the
amount
of
footage
of
the
entire
area
that
we're
doing
or
that's
just
what
you're
going
to
do
with
the
Earth
burn.
AH
Right
that
that's
the
the
length
of
the
earth
berm
that
will
be
in
the
air
areas
they're
showing
in
this
picture
in
green.
So
it's
a
linear
foot
of
Earth
burn.
Okay,.
R
So
let's
say
we
do
all
this:
what
will
stop
the
water
from
coming
in
at
Gulf
Road.
AH
R
AH
So
on
this
figure
we're
showing
that
so,
while
the
the
area
in
blue
here
after
we
saw
the
flood
protection
around
the
Bayou,
this
area
in
blue
would
still
be
still
be
vulnerable
to
flooding,
but
that
flood
water
would
not
come
around
and
flood
behind
the
wall
here.
So
all
the
all
the
area
behind
the
flood
wall
would
be
protected.
AH
R
Isn't:
building
a
sea
wall
less
expensive
than
putting
this?
What
did
you
have
here?
The
t-wall
that's
I
mean
that
t-wall
has
got
to
be
expensive
right.
AH
AI
AI
When
we
build
on
the
coast,
we
assume
that
half
the
water
is
going
to
go
towards
the
the
rain
water
is
going
to
go
towards
the
the
salt,
water
and
half's
going
to
go
towards
the
street
and
as
soon
as
I
put
a
wall,
I
replace
a
wall
at
elevation,
three
with
a
wall
at
elevation,
5
or
5.8
that
water
that
was
going
to
flow
one
way
now
all
goes
to
your
your
storm
water
system
in
your
street.
So
now
we
have
to
start
replacing
stormwater
systems,
so
it
it's.
AI
It's
places
that,
like
Fort
Lauderdale,
have
have
entered
into
that
effort
and
it's
significant
on
the
public
work
side.
So
it's
it's
not
as
easy.
When
you
get
up
into
those
areas,
when
you
raise
the
sea
wall,
you
got
to
do
something
with
the
water
that
normally
flows
towards
the
wall.
R
AI
Right
and
like
I
said
this
is
happening
throughout
Pinellas.
This
is
happening
throughout
the
Tampa
Bay
area
and
throughout
the
State
of
Florida,
and
those
are
some
of
the
challenges.
If
you
again,
if
you
block
that
flow
of
water,
you've
got
to
put
pumps
a
lot
of
pumps
in
a
lot
of
places
and
those
are
part
of
the
things
so
that
you
don't
flood
your
neighbors.
AI
If
somebody
puts
a
new
wall
in
higher,
then
then
the
old
wall
stays
in
the
neighbor's
spot
at
three,
and
you
put
a
wall
at
five,
now
you're,
sending
all
your
water
to
your
neighbors.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
of
issues
that
come
with
that
and
they
certainly
can
be
considered
as
you
expand
the
project
further
out,
but
from
a
cost-effective
standpoint,
I
think
we
felt
that
that
was
a
good
stopping
point.
We
would
love
to
go
all
the
way
around.
AI
R
But
we
have
that
same
exact
situation,
going
on
on
the
Spring
Bayou
we're
having
to
build
that
two
feet:
high
right
up
to
Tarpon
Avenue,
and
then
we
have
to
have
a
discussion
on
how
it
continues,
because
that's
all
residential.
So
that's
going
to
be
the
same
thing.
What
you're
doing
see
what
we
have
to
do
is
we
have
a
lot
of
variables
of
where
the
water
could
come
in
and
we
have
X
amount
of
money
that
we
can
put
towards
it.
R
So
we
have
to
kind
of
get
the
best
bang
for
the
buck
without
you
know
having
these
visions
of
grandeurs
like
putting
these
big
huge
items
in
that
are
in
the
millions
of
dollars,
because
that's
that's
only
going
to
stop
that
particular
area.
So
what
I'm
looking
for
is
more
so
I'd
rather
see
that
we
just
build
up
the
roadway
to
stop
the
water
and
if
we
have
to
have
a
a
s,
what
I'll
call
a
sump
pump
or
a
volt
pump
to
pump
the
water
back
when
it's
on
the
other
side.
AI
Correct,
typically,
when
we
design
a
a
system,
we
like
the
finished
floor,
elevation
to
be
18,
inches
or
so
above
the
crown
of
the
road.
If
we
raise
the
road
to
5.8
all
the
way
around
the
Bayou
and
then
keep
going,
then
we
start
getting
the
road
significantly
higher
than
the
finished
floor,
elevations
and
then
everywhere
along.
We
have
to
do
that
pumping
system.
We
have
to
have
a
lot
of
of
pumping
systems
and
it's
just
very
expensive.
We
can
from
an
engineering
standpoint
if
you
can
build
New
Orleans
below
sea
level.
AI
It
just
if
you
can
get
billions
of
dollars
from
the
feds,
you
can
make
it
happen,
but
the
idea
behind
this
project
was
it's.
It's
again
that
first
bite
grant
funding
would
come
in
and
help
get
it
started
as
we
go
forward.
The
increase
in
the
sea
wall
Heights
when
we
build
the
city's
sea
walls,
we're
setting
the
example
to
make
the
City
Sea
walls
higher.
So
as
the
residential
sea
walls
are
replaced
and
they
would
be
higher
that
contributes
to
it,
and
then
we
raise
roads
where
we
can.
A
Let
me
just
interject
and
I
want
to
give
just
a
very
brief
history
lesson.
It
may
help.
This
whole
thing
got
started
with
the
granite,
the
reventment
around
spring
Boulevard
and
everything
that
was
discussed.
It
can't
be
touched.
It's
going
to
be
extremely
expensive
to
fix.
I
actually
contacted
the
county,
they
weren't.
Even
when
I
was
a
commissioner.
They
weren't
interested
in
participating
because
we
spent
about
a
million
dollars
on
it.
The
county
spent
a
million
dollars
on
it,
and
now
they
were
saying
now
you
don't
like
the
granite.
You
want
to
take
it
away.
A
We
even
talked
to
the
Army
Corps.
If
you
remember
right,
that
was
before
I
was
a
commissioner
to
find
out
whether
and
it
is
possible,
but
they're,
very,
very
reluctant,
given
that
this
is
I
forgot,
the
type
of
project
that
it
is,
but
the
permitting
on
it
is
really
critical.
So
anyway,
that's
where
we
started
the
sea
walls
are
not
an
option
along
with
Bayou,
it's
just
not
there.
That
was
the
whole
point.
They're
not
allowed.
You've
got
mangroves
there,
and
so
everything
had
to
be
done
above
the
mean
high
water
line.
A
A
That
would
remain
in
in
place
all
the
way
around
and
so
and
then,
if
I
remember
right,
the
gates
on
the
canal
there
over
there
at
Lincoln
Boulevard
was
something
like
30
million
dollars,
I
think
if
I
remember
the
price
track,
70,
27
or
30.,
so
the
six
is
far
lower
than
the
27
or
30
that
were
there
before
and
then
the
other
thing.
A
On
top
of
all
of
this,
if
you
look
at
their
map
right
where
the
canal
is
where
our
humpback
bridge
is
all
that
area
and
even
over
to
Golf
Road
is
All,
County,
Road
I
know
we
have
to
get
them
to
actually
sign
off
on
this
and
I.
Don't
you
know.
A
That's
all
I
want
to
say
I'll
say
more,
but
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
a
history
lesson
of
where
we
are
and
and
I
think.
The
objective
of
this
evening
is
to
I
asked
the
city
manager
what
what
he
was
looking
for.
It
was
to
actually
and
then
let
me
just
add,
to
the
the
the
the
damages
residential
damages.
All
that
other
stuff
is
goes
into
where
you
land,
as
far
as
the
value
of
that
particular
Grant,
your
competitiveness
in
doing
that.
A
So
all
that
helps
if
we
can
paint
that
picture.
So
that's
the
history
of
it
and
it
got
started
like
in
the
2019
time
frame
and
it's
2014
and
we're
still
kind
of
talking
Concepts,
it's
very
important
and
then
the
last
thing
I
want
to
make
sure
just
from
just
based
experience.
This
isn't
the
end
of
it,
the
city's
here
in
the
long
haul.
This
is
only
going
to
get
worse.
So
all
these
other
areas
that
around
Golf,
Road
and
stuff
like
that
they're
going
to
have
to
be
addressed
in
the
future.
R
Well,
the
whole
thing
is:
if
you
can't
do
a
sea
wall,
then
the
second
best
choice
would
be
to
raise
the
roadway
and
raising
the
roadway.
You
would
have
to
have
some
sort
of
drainage
on
the
other
side,
for
you
know,
Heavy,
Rain
or,
and
we
would
have
to
have
a
number
of
places
where
we
have,
where
funnels
back
under
the
roadway
back
over
to
you
know
to
to
the
Bayou.
AH
Right
and
all
the
connecting
roads
to
the
with
Kumbaya,
we
also
need
to
be
revised
or
to
slope
up
to
that
new
road
height
and
all
the
drainage
would
have
to
be
yeah.
I.
Think
because
people
with
residents
were
concerned
in
the
public
meeting
that
the
approach
raising
the
road
would
have.
The
water
come
right
through
our
episode
right
to
the
to
the
driveway,
but.
AH
AH
A
AH
A
It
was
not
a
popular
thing,
let's
leave
it
at
that.
Yeah.
R
AH
A
R
G
Let
me
ask
you
a
follow-up
to
what
commissioner
Eiser
said.
Why
can't
we
extend
this
barrier
up
to
Gulf
Road.
S
So
that
you
know
Gulf
Road
into
Whitcomb
Bayou
into
Whitcomb
road
is,
is.
S
Artery
to
getting
you
know
out
of
that
area,
so
it's
right.
AH
S
Far,
would
you
how
far
around
that
water
area
that
that
Inlet
Water
Area
would
you
go,
have
to
go
to
protect
Gulf
Road.
AH
Right,
oaf,
too
yeah
all
the
way
up
to
was
Beckett
Bridge.
There.
G
I
would
ask
the
chief,
don't
you
think,
that's
important
to
keep
Gulf
Road
accessible
yeah,
so
yeah
I'd,
like
I
I,
would
I
would
think
you'd
want
to
try
to
price
that
out
as
well
the
okay
so
raising
the
road
I
I?
AH
G
What
would
you
do
in
the
fruit
District,
which
would
be
South,
Spring
Boulevard?
What
would
you
do
in
that
whole
area
if
you
raise
that
road
by
almost
six
feet,
that
those
there's
no
slope
at
all,
going
into
itself.
G
Pineapple
and
all
the
food
area
like
that
is
all
even
now,
I
can
see
like
Whitcomb
Place,
actually
slopes
down
to
to
Whitcomb
Boulevard.
You
could
possibly
slope
to
that.
But
how
are
you
gonna?
How
are
you
gonna,
go
six
feet
high
and
then
slow
you
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
how
you
could
even
do
that.
You
can't,
even
if
you
did
it
all
the
roads,
it's
my
turn.
Thank
you
all
the
roads
you'd
create.
You
know
like
every
everybody's
yards.
G
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
the
raising
the
road
as
as
even
of
feasible
alternative
at
this
point,
I
could
see
that
being
a
one
is
a
financial
Nightmare
and
also
an
engineering
one
as
well.
I
think
we'd
end
up
losing
areas
of
our
of
our
town,
especially
the
historic
area
like
that,
how
long
would
it
take
for
a?
How
long
does
it
take
to
get
these
grants
to
get
them
approved.
AG
Depends
on
the
grant,
so
if
notice
of
funding
goes
out,
it
typically
takes
a
couple
months.
They
give
you
know
two
three
months
for
recipients
to
respond
put
in
the
application.
You
get
the
notice
of
award
that
may
take
another
two
to
three
months
and
then
once
awarded
the
period
of
performance
can
range.
What
we've
seen
is
36
months.
AG
That's
what
you
know
the
projects
can
take
longer
than
that,
but
if
you're
on
a
grant
timeline,
it's
usually
36
months
with
three
months
at
the
end
for
closeout.
So
that's
wrapping
up
all
of
the
grant
kind
of
financial
reporting
and
all
of
that
so
around
around
36
months
about.
AG
And
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
take
36,
that's
the
the
max
that
they
give
you,
but
typically
with
all
the
design,
the
Geotech,
the
permitting
likely
it
will
take
that
long.
G
And
with
the
berm
the
who
made
the
city
would
maintain
that
right
now
does
it
require?
Is
it
going
to
require?
It
looks
like
it's
grass
right,
because
you
need
it
to
keep
the
soil
intact
right
right,
okay,.
S
AF
I,
don't
think
irrigation,
it
would
be.
You
know,
native
type,
covering
ground
cover
or
prevent
erosion,
but
maintenance
costs
were
included
in
the
in
the
cost
analysis.
A
I
one
resident
had
a
question
for
me
and
I
really
think
we
need
whatever
we
do
in
the
future.
We
need
to
kind
of
roll
that
into
the
calculations
when
we
block
all
of
that
water
in
even
the
Army
Corps
may
have
a
question
on
this.
When
we
stop
all
that
water
and
that
water,
basically
we're
daming
it
up,
so
it's
going
to
contribute
a
little
bit
to
some
of
the
adjacent
areas.
Just
because
of
the
you
know
the
the
pressure
coming
in.
A
A
Yeah,
we
probably
should
because
the
reason
why
is
if
we
just
move
right
ahead
without
an
answer
to
that
question,
it's
going
to
be
probably
a
very
easy.
What
would
you
call
it?
A
a
somebody
filing
a
not
a
complaint,
but
it's
a
I
forgot.
What
the
proper
term
is
when
somebody
files
a
they
challenge,
the
permit
being
issued.
I
forgot
what
the
term
is
at
this
point,
but
anyway,
and
then
also
the
other
thing.
A
With
regard
to
the
the
North
west
side
of
Whitcomb
Bayou
from
Golf
Road
on
there's
a
short
strip
of
that
which
is
probably
it
I,
don't
know,
I'd
have
to
confirm
it.
That
would
be
private
property.
I
mean
it's
public
Pro,
it's
roadway,
but
it
may
be
public
property
along
the
shoreline.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
along
Whitcomb
Bayou
itself,
it's
spotty,
some
of
it
is
owned
by
the
county.
The
shoreline,
some
of
it,
is
privately
owned
that
they
have
the
riparian
rights.
A
A
A
Don't
think
that
we
should
just
move
ahead
without
some
thought
to
the
residents
that
we're
thinking
about
them
as
well
those
areas
and
then
this
whole
idea
again
started
with
a
granite
around
spring
Boulevard
and
that's
where
the
focus
has
been
trying
to
get
eliminate
at
Granite
and
and
that's
where
we
are
right
now
so
I
still
I
think
that
that
whole
area
to
the
east
of
the
we
can
buy
you
Shoreline,
is
all
the
historic
district
and
I
think
that
there's
some
importance
there
to
prevent
structural
damages
as
well
as
content
damage
there
too.
A
So
I
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
tonight
are
what
you're
looking
for
some
direction
on
moving
ahead
and
I.
Think
if
we
could
kind
of
summarize
some
of
the
questions
for
each
commissioner,
that
you
would
want
to
answer
as
part
of
this
process
for
moving
ahead
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
rather
than
kind
of
just
leaving
it
at
that
and
doing
a
vote
or
anything
like
that.
So
let
me
go
start
with
vice
mayor
Lunt.
Do
you
have
any
questions
or
anything
that
you
want
answers
to?
T
Already
yeah
the
only
thing
that
I
that
I
was
so
the
only
thing
that
I
was
more
concerned
about
was
who
else
is
using
this?
This
stop
wall,
stop
log
where.
A
T
Done
where
it's
used
for
where
it's
used
for
I
think
we
need
to
do
some
more
hydrologic
studies,
because
my
personal
thought
is:
if
we
raise
that
whole
Bayou
5.8
feet
and
we
get
a
flood,
the
Washo
from
Kramer
Bayou
was
going
to
make
that
whole
area
is,
is
just
not
going
to
make
it
it's
just
it's
not
going
to
look
good
so,
but
anyway,
that's
just
the
personal
thought.
I
still
want
to
look
at
the
stop
all
I
understand.
We
have
to
do
this.
A
chunk
of
the
time.
T
R
Now,
it's
falling
into
the
water.
We
have
to
repair
that
to
some
degree,
but
I
just
see
it.
It
could
come
through
the
crema,
Bayou
and
down
right
by
the
Beckett
bridge
and
fall
over.
The
top
I
mean
that's
flooded
on
on
every
high
tide,
so
it
to
me
it
makes
no
sense
to
spend
whatever
on
this.
When
we
have
so
many
other
loopholes
that
the
water
could
come
in
through
our
boat
launch,
she
could
come
in
over
a
riffraff.
It
could
come
in
we're
only
building
up
our
Spring
Bayou
two
feet.
R
It
could
come
over
the
top
and
then
it
would
sit
all
on
Spring
Bayou
over
there
and
flood
that
out
and
all
of
those
houses
on
that
street
are
almost
at
sea
level.
So
you
know
it
just
doesn't
pay
to
do
something
in
one
spot
and
then
trap
the
water
behind
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
gives
you
any
guidance
to
move
forward,
but
I'm
throwing.
R
I
mean
if
you
raise
the
road
you're
you
you
I'd
like
the
price
on
it,
but
then
yours.
A
Is
there
right
there
yeah
the
prices,
they
included
the
price
and
those
options
the
what
I'm
getting
at
is
this
isn't
new
work?
The
information
is
available
already.
It
was
just
prior
to
I.
Believe
you
becoming
prior
to
2020.
The
March
2020
time
frame
is
that
right,
yeah
we've
been
there
for
a
while
yeah
or
2020,
whatever
okay.
A
R
I,
just
like
I
said
I'm
going
forward
with
this
is,
is
a
drawback
for
me.
A
Right
now
and
and
I
think
that
you
all
are
going
to
look
at
maybe
a
little
bit
of
the
modeling
of
what
preventing.
What's
stopping
this
flood
does
to
some
of
the
other
areas
is
at
least
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
how
much
of
a
challenge
that's
going
to
be.
As
far
as
doing
the
modeling
I
just
checked
with
the
city
manager.
Earlier,
all
this
is
being
done
at
our
expense.
AF
A
This
is
four
years,
maybe
or
so
to
get
just
the
basic
design
done
and
then
I
would
suspect
the
permitting
I
I
think
the
permitting
is
going
to
take
a
lot
longer.
I
I
think
completing
something
like
this.
If
we
get
it
done
within
a
10-year
period,
we'd
be
lucky
and
that's
going
to
be
way
beyond
my
time,
and
so
that's
just
just
the
way
things
go.
A
Environmentally,
so
I
think
there
isn't
an
issue
that
we
need
to
jump
in
and
rush
on
anything
I
think
the
question
is,
let's
ask
some
questions,
get
your
information
and
then
revisit
this
again
with
this
information
that
Vice
Maryland
you've
asked
for
and
I'm
going
to
ask
commissioner
colianos.
What
do
you
got.
G
Ample
as
the
the
drawing
we
have
here
that
it
actually
protected
that
many
homes,
then
it
would
be
a
a
good
investment
right.
We're
not
you
know
we
we
can't.
We
have
to
approach
this
one
piece
at
a
time
throughout
the
town,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
protect
the
whole
town
and
but
I
would
like
to
see
what
it
would
cost
to
actually
go
around
and
protect
golf
Boulevard,
Gulf
Road
I
mean
Gulf
Road
to
Whitcomb,
because
I
think
that's
critical.
G
If
can't
protect
that,
then
that's
a
real
safety
concern
for
all
the
neighbors
trying
to
to
get
out
of
there.
G
I
think
the
road
thing
you
know:
I
I,
my
buddy
old
time,
long
time,
buddy
cow
speritas,
you,
you
were
probably
a
city
manager
when
all
that
problem
he
had
they
raised
the
road
on
Whitcomb
Boulevard,
his
house
is
below
and
he
was
having
all
this
flooding
and
it
got
to
the
point
where
he
had
to
hire.
An
attorney
to
you
know
threaten
I,
don't
know
if
he
filed
a
lawsuit
or
not,
but
you
could
imagine
that
was
just
one
home.
G
You
can
imagine
if
you
raise
the
road,
you
I,
don't
know
what
you
do
with
the
whole
historic
area
there
by
Craig,
Park
and
again
the
the
fruit
District
I.
Don't
I,
don't
see
how
what
you
would
do
there
so
I
think
this
is
probably
a
a
good
plan
again
I'd
like
to
see
it
protect,
Gulf
Road,
if
possible,
but
I
definitely
think
you
should
go
forward
and
see
about
grants,
and
then
you
know.
G
A
R
This
is
a
far-fetch
just
throw
this
out
there,
rather
than
trying
to
hit
All
Our
arteries
that
are
coming
in
what
price
would
first
I
need
to
understand?
Are
we
trying
to
stop
the
high
tide,
the
king
tide
or
we're
trying
to
stop
a
heavy
duty?
Hurricane?
That's
one
kind
of
thing.
A
Up
the
wrong
tree,
yeah,
okay,
that
water
will
just
the
river
the
river
will
not
even
be
a
blink
in
any
Storm's
eye
as
far
as
getting
water
inland
on
us.
The
modeling
shows
that,
and
so
that
question
was
asked
before
too,
and
so
my
son
says,
let
me
just
kind
of
lay
this
out.
You
all
tell
me
if
this
is
okay,
there's
been
some
questions
have
been
asked.
I
think
the
general
sense
is
to
the
I.
A
The
concept
is
is
just
say
at
this
point
at
face
value
acceptable
with
some
adjustments,
depending
on
what
the
answers
to
those
questions
are
going
to
be
with
regard
to
the
cost
and
everything,
even
though
it's
private
property
around
that
area,
that
North
West
area
of
Whitcomb
Bayou,
imminent
domain
is
possible
to
get
what
whatever
land
you
need
to
do
whatever
you
need,
that's
not
an
issue.
It
is
an
issue
for
the
people
owning
the
homes,
but
in
terms
of
a
doable
it's
it's
not
an
issue
and
I'm,
not
suggesting
it,
but
that's
that's!
A
You
can
determine
a
cost
associated
with
that
approach.
I
know
you've
gone
through
this
before
so
so
so.
I
think
the
approach
that
you've
got
right
here
is
acceptable.
There's
some
questions
that
need
to
have
answers.
There
may
be
some
additional
costs
to
the
tasking
at
this
point
in
order
to
get
that,
unfortunately,
we're
in
budget
time
right
now
so
Mr
Robertson.
A
Let
me
just
ask
a
sense.
You've
kind
of
have
a
general
idea
of
the
direction
to
go
in.
Is
that
correct?
That's
what
I'm
looking
at!
In
other
words,
yes,
don't
abandon
ship
on
the
concept
okay,
but
we
just
need
some
additional
information.
Some
new
information,
some
old
information,
does
that
sound
acceptable
to
everybody.
A
Okay,
vice
mayor
London,.
T
T
So
there's
some
X
zones
here
we
may
want
to
consider
stopping
before
that
and
moving
up
a
road
to
the
X
zone
and
sort
of
putting
a
stop
there,
because
that
we
could
protect
if
we
go
all
the
way
up
to
Gulf
Road
and
then
do
this
little
little
hookup
I'm
I'm
quite
familiar
with
there.
I
live
there,
it's
just
going
to
flood
around
it
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
like
okay,
we
spent
10
million
dollars
and
the
water
Gets
behind
all
this
all
the
berms
and
stuff
we
put
there.
So
the.
A
A
If
a
hurricane
came
in
and
I
mean
we
got,
we've
got
the
standard
old
problems
that
we've
always
had,
so
this
is
to
keep
the
problem
from
happening
at
Spring
Boulevard,
the
MLK
along
all
the
way
down
spring
Boulevard
and
all
the
way
around
we
can
find
not
not
to
prevent
any
hurricane
flooding
or
anything
like
that.
So
so
let
me
write
this
mayor.
Lance,
okay,
commissioner,
Eisner
you're,
okay,
okay,.
A
We
we
had
to
Workshop
a
while
back
and-
and
we
kind
of
kind
of
decided
how
to
proceed
in
what
you
have
in
your
backup
is
just
generally
a
memorialization
of
that
discussion
that
we
had
where
each
commissioner
spends
some
time
with
a
candidate
and
then,
after
that
kind
of
schedule
was
put
down.
A
I
recall
that
we
had
also
wanted
to
get
these
candidates
exposure
to
the
the
business
Community,
also
not
for
profits
and
and
then
also
we
would
have
the
public
part
of
the
commission
meeting
for
any
questions
that
the
public
might
have
and
that
that's
why
it
would
be
a
special
session
we're
still
on
track.
But
let
me
just
give
kind
of
a
rundown
of
where
we
are.
A
We
start
out
with
with
this
process
that
we
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
in
the
backup
we
start
out
with
some
time
ago
with
11
candidates.
It
dropped
down
to
seven,
and
that
was
partially
due
to
Mr
slavin
doing
his
work
of
what
he
was
hired
to
do
from
Seven.
It
went
down
to
four
I
think
two
of
those
two
jobs
that
dropped
it
down
to
two.
A
A
third
potential
came
up,
but
that's
since
then
that
person
has
declined
to
to
move
forward
and
so
we're
down
to
two,
and
there
may
be
a
another
one
or
two
before
we
get
to
August
5th.
That's
the
latest
that
I
have
for
Mr
slavin.
A
That
was,
as
of
today,
I
also
asked
the
question:
if
we
had
just
two
candidates,
is
it
worth
moving
forward
and
his
answer
was
yes,
and
he
said
the
bottom
line
is
if,
if
whatever
is
done
as
a
result
of
this,
isn't
something
that
works
out
for
the
commission,
then
there
would
be
a
renewal
of
the
effort
of
soliciting
responses
to
the
r,
not
the
RP,
but
to
the
advertising
for
for
the
position.
A
Let
me
ask
I,
don't
know
if
the
public
has
seen
a
backup.
Do
you
have
any
questions,
does?
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
this
item.
O
A
It's
basically
it's
an
open
advertisement.
There
wasn't
any
shutoff
date
and
so
the
at
this,
given
that
there
were
11
applications,
the
consultant
felt
that
let's
just
take
a
look
at
what
we've
got
right
now
and
and
it
was
and
then
we'll
proceed
if
it
doesn't
work
out.
If
it
does
work
out,
then
we
can
stop
the
process
as
far
as
selecting
a
new
city
manager
and
so
right
now
it's
gone
from
the
wheels
of
that
process
started.
A
Turning
with
I,
won't,
say
11,
but
seven
and
we're
down
to
two
and
the
two
that
are.
There
are
pretty
solid
candidates,
and
so
the
consultant
I'm
sure
would
I
asked
them
specifically
would
have
told
us,
let's
just
go
back
out
for
further
advertising,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
kind
of
go
through
this
right
now
and
then
take
a
look
at
it
after
it's
all
done
and
decide
whether
we
need
to
go
back
out
again.
So
can
you
come
back
up
Mr
miles.
A
O
A
To
do
no
I
think
I
think
the
the.
M
A
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
city
manager,
but
he
can.
He
can
kind
of
speak
for
himself,
but
I
think
the
general
sense
was
to
come
up
with
some
amicable
arrangement
for
there
to
be
a
change
that
fit
in
with
his
plans,
okay,
long-term
plans
and
what
the
city
commission
wanted
to
do
and
I
think
up
at
to
this
point.
You
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
it's
been
amicable,
I,
don't
think.
A
We've
had
any
issues
with
that
and
and
even
even
with
a
new
city
manager,
Mr
licorice's
role
isn't
going
to
be
quite
over
at
that
time,
either.
J
A
Of
course,
as
he
and
I
know,
that's
going
to
be
up
to
any
new
city
manager
that
comes
along
to
make
that
determination,
but
at
least
let
me
put
it
this
way
when
Ms
passavac
came
on
board.
She
asked
me
to
help
as
far
as
providing
her
information
when
she
needed
it,
and
honestly
I
was
a
little
reluctant
to
do
that,
because
the
commission,
at
that
time
went
in
a
different
direction.
That
I
was
interested.
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
left
being
city
manager
way
back.
O
A
O
All
of
us,
of
course
he
does
he's
been
he's.
It
just
was
unclear
to
me
as
a
citizen
when
he
was
supposed
to
be
leaving.
When
was
he
leaving?
When
was
the
person
that
I
heard
you
interviewing
so
I
was
just
trying
to
you
know,
normally
have
a
a
position
open
as
a
closed
date,
you
interview
and
then
you
hire,
but
it's
unclear
for
me
at.
A
J
J
So
you
do
all
this
work.
I
did
ask
for
him.
No,
you
didn't
ask
for
public
comments,
because
we
were
waiting
to
come
up.
The
other
person
left.
If
you
do
this
work,
what
happens
to
the
area
where
Yankee
Bean
is
that
floods
bad
up
to
the
door?
J
What
about
the
property
on
the
corner
there
at
the
light
where
the
Winn-Dixie
the
manatee
Village,
is
that
property
that
can't
sell
is
because
it
floods
what
their
presentation
was?
Will
that
help
that
area
not
flood?
Because
commissioner
colianus
spoke
about
the
fruit
section?
Well,
that's
just
a
little
ways
from
there
and
is
that
going
to
help
those
areas
too?
Yes,.
A
A
And
I've
already
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
seeing
what
we
can
do
about
working
in
these
check
valves
through
forward
Pinellas
in
in
a
in
a
project
there
to
see
whether
they
even
accept
those
projects
for
that,
and
also
the
old
amp
they're
at
the
corner
of
MLK
and
so
I
understand.
The
answer
is
yes
to.
J
Your
question:
okay
and
another
thing
I
want
to
say
in
following
the
historic
preservation
information
I
get
and
the
magazines
of
Charleston
South
Carolina
and
of
the
South
we
have
as
much
water,
if
not
more
than
they
do
in
their
historic
district
and
all
around,
and
if
they
were
able
to
get
million
dollar
grants.
We
should
be
able
to
get
that
and
more
to
be
able
to
do
what
we
can
and
want
to
do
to
save
our
beautification
around
the
Bayou
and
Craig
Park
and
I'll,
be
honest
with
you.
J
I
was
not
impressed
with
this
presentation
tonight.
Let's
be
cautious
of
what
we
do
and
I
had
asked
one
commissioner
to
get
in
touch
with
Charleston
South
Carolina.
They
did
a
whole
program
on
on.
It
was
either
either
wedu
or
wedq
about
flooding
in
Charleston,
South,
Carolina
and
theirs
is
beautiful.
J
What
they
did
is
is
a
good
presentation
to
the
the
city
and
how
they
worked.
It
we're
not
Charleston
South
Carolina.
They
are
lower
than
we
are,
but
they
got
the
grants
and
they've
done
a
beautiful
job.
I'm
not
saying
I
want
it
to
be
the
same
thing,
but
I
think
it
can
be
a
little
better
than
what
I
think
we
saw
up
there
and
I
urge
y'all
to
really
look
into
it
more
and
see
what
more
we
can
get
to
preserve
and
I
hope.
They
can
pick
up
that
Granite.
J
That
should
never
have
happened,
and
it
if
you
need
it,
it
has
to
stay
there
and
cover
it
up.
It's
too
bad,
it's
so
industrial
looking
it
ruins
the
the
beauty
of
the
area,
and
it
needs
to
go
all
the
way
around
like
where
Jerry
hurtis
lives
in
the
area
there,
because
that
does
flood
too
the
real
high
tides
remember,
the
March
13th
storm
would
happen
to
us.
That
was
really
bad
with
the
flooding.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
let's
get
back
to
the
process
that
was
Ms
miles.
Oh
Miss,
Taylor!
Please
come
forward.
This
is
I'm
hoping
about
the
city
manager
process.
Thank.
K
A
The
we
don't
have
any
information
in-house
and
the
city.
The
consultant
is
going
through
background
checks
with
these
individuals
and
things
they've
not
shared
anything
with
us.
As
far
as
who
the
potential
candidates
are
they.
You
know
we
at
this
point.
It's
just
been:
we've
been
dealing
with
numbers,
so.
A
Me
in
the
middle
of
next
week's
the
new,
the
the
workshop
that
we've
got,
the
special
session
is
August
5th
and
so
the
that's
correct
right,
the
date
so
the
middle
of
the
week
prior
to
that
day,
which
I
think
is
Saturday
August
5th,
is
Saturday.
So
the
middle
of
the
week
will
have
some
information
as
far
as
the
the
details
of
who
these
individuals
not
just
the
who
they
are
by
name
but
also
their
background
and
everything
he
creates
a
packet
for
us
on
that.
K
But
once
you
do
double
and
come
into
position,
is
it
going
to
be
a
deadline
for
the
retirement
of
the
president
I'm
sorry,
once
you
start
doubling
covering
for
the
position
of
somebody
coming
and
start
training
behind
him?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
time
frame
that
that
person's
going
to
train?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
year?
Is
it
going
to
be
until
he
decide
to
retire,
I
may
have
misunderstood?
Did
you
follow.
K
K
A
AD
Good
evening,
Peter
delacos
514
Ashland
Avenue
I,
noticed
in
the
backup
there's
going
to
be
a
meet
and
greet
at
approximately
11
o'clock,
I
believe
at
the
cultural
center,
and
you
mentioned
certain
non-profit
groups
being
invited,
but
it
was
predominantly
from
a
list
that
were
predominantly
I
guess
prepared
through
either
the
chamber,
and
this
other
group
you
had
mentioned
in
there.
AD
I
just
would
like
to
say
as
someone
who
represents
the
environmental
aspect
of
our
town,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we're
going
to
get
an
invitation,
but
I
hope
we
are
open
to
the
public.
So
those
of
us
who
have
other
concerns
beside
the
business
Community,
but
the
preservation
of
Tarpon
Springs,
natural
resources
and
beauty
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
candidates.
Thank
you.
G
Miles
asked
I
think
Mrs
miles.
You
asked
the
best
question
of
the
night.
What
is
the
date
you
know?
I
got
up
at
that
Podium
there
in
a
public
comment
and
express
my
opinion
on
this
city
manager
situation
when
I
was
possibly
I.
Think
I
was
commissioner,
elect
I'm,
not
even
sure
if
I
was
and
I
asked
that
simple
question
that
the
city
manager,
a
45-year,
a
45-year,
employee,
former
city
police
chief
now
a
city
manager
should
pick
his
date
of
retirement.
G
I
thought
that
then
I
think
it
even
more
now
I've
worked
with
him
now
through
the
whole
time
that
I
was
commissioner
elect
I've
worked
with
him
now,
as
a
commissioner
I
find
him
to
be
an
exemplary
person
to
work
with
I
think
he
has
still
has
tread
on
his
tires.
G
G
So
you
know,
I
asked
the
city
clerk
to
give
me
a
list
of
all
the
city
managers
going
back
to
the
beginning
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
she
gave
me
that
and
it
started
with
one
of
the
McCreery's
and
then
another
McCreery,
and
you
look
at
the
list
and
the
ones
with
the
most
tenure.
The
ones
that
have
been
the
most
successful
have
been
homegrown
city
managers.
G
I
always
thought
again.
I
thought
what
Miss
what
Maggie
said
was
a
reasonable
thing
to
ask.
You
would
have
thought
that
I,
who
knows
what
you
know
the
the
the
reaction
was
like
Defcon
4,
but
that's
okay,
I'm
willing
to
go
through
that
again.
G
He
you
know
we.
We
should
have
a
plan
B
right
now
we,
the
plan,
is:
let's
look
for
somebody.
We
might
find
somebody
we
might
not.
Mark
hang
around
till.
We
do
I
think
he
deserves
more
respect
than
that
again.
A
45-year
employee
who
has
done
you
know,
even
if
we
you
know,
even
if
we
blame
him
for
things
like
Anclote,
Harbor
or
all
anything
else,
you
know
he
wasn't,
he
doesn't
make
policy
he
rolls
with
whose
who
the
Board
of
Commissioners
are
and
what
they
want.
G
That's
his
job
to
take
direction
from
us.
Do
the
do
that.
What
he's
given
direction
for
I
found
him
to
be
I,
I'm,
I
love
working
with
the
guy,
just
it's
just
and
I
didn't
come
in
here.
That
feeling
that
way,
I
did
came
in
here.
I
did
not
come
in
at
all
feeling
that
way.
G
I
was
on
the.
If
you
had
asked
me
two
years
ago,
I
would
have
said:
yeah,
let's
get,
let's
get
a
new
guy
or
I
would
have
gone
with
the
same
platitude.
Oh,
it's
time
for
a
change,
but
now
working
with
him,
I
I'm
I'd
want
to
stay
with
him
for
a
while
till
he
picked
a
date,
and
it
would
obviously
have
to
be
a
date
that
we
both
that
the
board
would
also
agree
with,
but
then
have
somebody
ready
internally
as
a
plan
B
that
could
step
up
and
assume
the
role.
G
Assuming
we
don't
find
this.
You
know
ideal
person
from
the
outside.
Again
most
of
our
successful
city
managers,
including
the
mayor,
were
homegrown
and
I.
Think
that
we've
done
well
with
that
we're
a
unique
City.
We
have
a
lot
of
cultural
things.
You
know,
I
I
have
never
seen
anybody
in
leadership
that
has
garnered
as
much
loyalty
as
this
man
has
I
I.
It's
like
Universal.
G
Throughout
now
the
people
who
don't
like
him
I've
asked
people
who
came
to
me
and
said
we
should,
especially
after
I
made
that
comment
and
I
got
a
couple
calls.
You
know
what's
wrong
with
you,
why
aren't
you
going
along
with
getting
rid
of
Mark
and
I'd?
Ask
him?
How
does
what
is
why
do
you
want
to
get
rid
of
Mark
they'd
say?
Well,
oh,
he
was
rude
to
me.
G
Okay,
I,
didn't
know
we
hired
a
game,
show
host.
You
know
he
he
is
he
he
is
who
he
is
I,
don't
find
him
rude
I
find
him
entertaining
I
like
it
when
he
yells
at
me.
So
because,
because
I
feel
like
he
has,
we
have
that
kind
of
relationship,
but
I
you
know,
and
yet
I
got
calls.
G
G
I
mean
that
just
the
fact
that
he
accepts
that
tells
us
how
exceptional
a
man
he
is
because
he
loves
this
town
so
much
he
doesn't
need
it.
I
I
he's
got
his
police
pension.
He's
got
a
pension
set
up
with
the
city.
He
could
he
could
go
at
any
time.
It's
not
going
to
make
any
difference
to
him,
but
he
loves
the
city
so
much
that
he
was
willing
to
work
with
that
again
nebulous
situation
and
so
I
again
I'd
be
disingenuous
to
say,
I'm
going
to
participate
in
the
process.
G
A
Hang
on,
we
finished
with
public
comments
right.
We
went
to
commissioner
coulianos
okay,
commissioner
I
said
go
ahead,
so.
R
This
is
very
tough,
but
I'm
gonna
speak
out.
I
get
offended
when
I
hear
people
saying
that
we
just
want
to
give
her
to
Mark.
That's
not
the
case,
and
anybody
says
that
has
a
wrong
view
of
what
this
commission
is
about
truthfully.
If
you
look
back
at
some
of
the
actions
of
people
that
have
come
up
before
us
here
to
speak
they've,
given
people,
no
notice
handed
them
Walking,
Papers
and
said
you're
to
resign
by
tomorrow,
or
else.
R
So
that's
what
I
got
to
listen
to
and
I
got
to
read
it.
It's
in
the
newspaper
just
read
back
in
87.,
so
those
are
Walking
Papers
and
it's
rude.
When
you
hear
people
get
up
to
say
things,
negative
Mark
has
from
what
I
know
a
perfect
relationship
with
every
one
of
the
commissioners,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
time
to
replace
somebody
just
because
a
average
commissioner,
an
average
sorry,
an
average
manager
city
manager
works
from
four
to
six
years.
R
Mark
has
put
in
a
lot
of
hard
work.
I
would
be
happy
to
ask
him,
and
he
knows:
we've
had
this
conversation,
I
and
I,
and
you
know
I've
asked
this
question
of
you.
How
do
you
feel
about
possibly
leaving
and
he's
answered
me?
It's
not
of
any
of
these
business,
but
I've
asked
them
that
opinion
he's
shared
it
with
me.
We've
spoken
as
as
a
as
friends,
I'm
very
pleased
with
what
he's
done
as
well,
but
that
still
doesn't
mean
that
it's
not
time.
R
I've
also
explained
to
him,
which
I
I,
don't
think
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
people
on
the
board,
but
I
don't
think.
There's
anybody
on
this
board
that
just
wants
to
just
get
rid
of
Mark,
because
we
want
to
retire
like
a
cow,
that's
ridiculous!
So
there
is
a
time
and
a
place
where,
when,
when
a
person,
it's
time
to
move
on
and
Mark's,
not
in
disagreement
to
that,
he
shared
with
me
that
we
could
have
removed
him
on
the
first
day.
R
R
There
are
pluses
and
minuses
to
mock
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
those,
but
to
get
sometimes
fresh
blood
in
people
change
CEOs
all
the
time
they
changed,
Commissioners
all
the
time.
Nobody
trained
us
to
be
a
commissioner.
You
come
in
and
you're
a
commissioner
and
you
make
decisions
for
the
city.
Managers
come
in
their
city
managers,
as
was
said,
they're
hired
and
they're
left
they're
gone
within
a
year
too.
R
All
of
those
things
are
a
factor,
but
none
of
those
factors
are
important
enough
to
not
look
into
possibly
making
a
change
nobody's,
putting
mock
out
to
pass
the
nobody's
devaluing
what
he's
done
you
know
all
these
comments
that
are
are
sort
of
have
these
negative
innuendos
to
them
are
ridiculous
that
that's
not
the
case
and
Mark
knows
that
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
Marcus
shared
with
me
numerous
times.
R
This
is
this
is
the
easiest
he's
had,
because
we
work
together
very
well,
so
nobody's
throwing
him
out
and
and
I
get
offended
when
I
hear
that
that
we
are
just
tossing
him
out,
that's
not
the
case,
so
we're
going
to
go
through
a
procedure
and
the
procedure
is
to
interview
people
and
if
the
people
are
of
good
quality-
and
they
are,
you
know
able
to
move
this
town
forward.
R
We
could
make
that
choice,
but
nobody
is
just
deciding
to
just
take
somebody
and
and
just
throw
a
mark
out.
That's
crazy
talk,
so
I
hope
that
puts
you
somewhat
at
ease
that
we're
not
just
mad
people
up
here.
Just
you
know,
gonna
just
throw
somebody
out
is
I.
I!
Think
he's
doing
a
great
job.
We
get
along
perfectly
there's
very
little
that
we
disagree
with
and
and
I
think
he's
doing.
R
What
he
does
is
not
easy!
Believe
me
what
I
saw
on
that
side
of
the
Deus
versus
what
I
see
on
this
side
of
the
Deus
he
he
works
extremely
hard
at
at
a
lot
of
things
and
I
do
think
he
runs
this
city
well
again,
that
still
has
nothing
to
do
with
us,
always
looking
for
someone
better
and
I
I
hope
I'm,
not
offending
you
in
any
which
way
Mark.
You
know
you
know,
we've
had
this
conversation
and
I've
only
dealt
with
you
with
the
utmost
respect.
R
You've
dealt
with
me
with
the
utmost
respect
and
I
I'm,
not
looking
to
put
anybody
out
to
pasture.
So
when
I
hear
that
I
I
it
offends
me
because
what
we
all
ran
on
is
is
yesterday
nobody's
done
that
nobody's
handed
him.
You
know
a
a
goodbye.
Nobody
has
done
that
and
believe
me,
that
is
the
history
of
Tarpon.
People
have
done
that
as
Mayors,
where
they've
walked
in
and
just
said
goodbye,
we
don't
do
that.
We
treat
people
with
respect
and
we're
going
to
treat
Mark
with
respect.
R
A
Feel
so,
if
anybody's
interested
in
How
I
Feel
read
my
performance
evaluations
of
the
city
manager,
their
public
record,
so
we've
got
this
process
in
place.
I've
got
a
recommended
motion
and
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion
considered
and
seconded,
so
we
can
move
ahead
with
this
on
August
5th,
unless
the
commission
declines
to
move
ahead
with
it
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
So
is
there
a
motion
in
a
second
either
way
we
should
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
A
C
Q
Mayor
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
and
vice
mayor
Commissioners
and
city
manager,
everybody
that
attended
the
funeral
and
City
residents
and
business
owners.
Thank
you
for
your
love
and
support
that
you
showed
to
the
department
and
for
major
Trill.
We
appreciate
everybody's
support
and
we'll
pay
honor
to
him
by
continuing
getting
to
work.
A
Thank
you.
Chief
I've
got
some
things
to
say,
but
I'm
going
to
wait
till
we
get
through
the
line.
Mr
Salzman.
Do
you
have
anything.
V
Mayor
when
we
get
when
we
have
the
oral
argument
on
the
concerned,
citizens
case
I
would
ask
that,
after
that
occurs
that
we
set
up
a
shade
meeting
so
that
we
can
discuss
a
case
with.
V
That,
yes,
I'll
just
have
dates:
I'll
talk
to
Irene
about
dates,
I
know
you're
going
through
budget
process,
so
dates
aren't
that
easy.
But
it's
not
a
rush
but
I'd
like
to.
A
A
T
Right
can
we
I
mean
I'm,
sorry
I
got
a
vacation
schedule
and
all
this
stuff
going
on
just
after
that
period.
If
we're
going
to
consider
a
shade
meeting
after
oral
arguments,
we
look
at
putting
it
on
the
22nd
in
front
of
our
commission
meeting
or
behind
our
commission
meeting,
whichever
that's.
M
A
After
and
yeah
and
vice
mayor
London
will
just
be
getting
back:
yeah,
okay,
terribly
we'll
solicitively
you're
requesting
a
shade
meeting,
and
so
let's
set
it
for
August,
22nd
and.
A
Thank
you,
okay
city
manager,
of
course.
Yes,.
M
Hopefully
Ron's
working
feverishly,
so
we
can
try
to
complete
the
budget
process
with
the
third
meeting
on
Thursday
night
we're
trying
to
get
all
the
answers
for
you
again.
We
did
have
a
tentative
one
set
up
if
we
couldn't
get
finished
in
three
sessions
for
the
week
after,
but
I
think
we
can
finish
up
pretty
much.
We
also
have,
if
there's
any
individual
items
to
finish
up.
We
could
finish
up
at
a
commission
meeting
to
put
it
on
there,
but
I
think
I
think
you'll
you'll.
M
Let
me
know
after
Thursday
night,
if
we
need
the
reserve
that
other
day
which
that
fourth
tenant
date
I
think
is
the
Thursday
after
that
I
believe
so,
but
I
think
we
can
get
if
you've
got
any
other
anything
else.
That's
came
up.
If
you
get
with
me
tomorrow
that
you
we
might
need
for
the
Thursday
night
meeting.
I
know
it's
one
day,
but
we
can
work
pretty
fast
to
try
to
get
it.
M
P
K
G
So
I
was
it
was
during
Greek
Easter
week
and
I
was
going
to
Copenhagen
coffee
shop
across
from
the
church
and
as
I
was
walking
up.
G
I
saw
this
guy
sitting
in
a
chair
in
front
of
the
coffee
shop
and
he
was
dressed
like
a
like
a
Frenchman.
He
had
like
a
funny
hat
on
and
he
had
these
really
tight
pants
and
they
went
about
halfway
up
his
calves
and
he
had
his
legs
crossed.
You
know
like
he
was
going
to
hold
his
coffee
like
this
and
he
actually
had
his
newspaper
up.
He
was
looking
over
top
of
his
newspaper
and
I.
Look
at
him
and
it's
trill
I
said
hey
drill,
and
then
he
goes.
He
goes
like
this.
G
This
leave
him
alone,
because
he
he
was,
he
was
doing
surveillance.
You
know
he
was
going
to
try
to
catch
some
little
delinquent,
Greek,
kids,
throwing
bombs
and
I
said
drill.
I
said
everybody
knows
you,
I
said
every
Greek
kid
in
town
knows
who
you
are
and
that
that
helps.
That
is.
That's
not
a
good
disguise,
so
you
know
he
was
a.
He
was
one
of
us.
He
was
a
tarpon
guy.
He
was
a
you
know.
He
was
everybody
knew
him
because
he
had
put
himself
out
there
to
be
known
by
everyone.
R
My
whole
thing
is:
this
has
been
a
very
sad
week.
Major
drill
meant
a
lot
to
me
and
he
meant
a
lot
to
this
town.
There
is
a
major
hole
in
the
police
force
this
week,
and
hopefully
they
can
move
on
from
this.
R
That
was
probably
the
one
of
the
most
intense
funerals
I'd
ever
seen
in
my
life
and
I've,
been
to
many.
It
was
fitting
to
a
president
and
a
dignitary
as
Trill
was
he
took
this
job
extremely
serious
he's
just
a
man
amongst
men
and
I
salute
him.
Always
so
that's
it.
Okay,.
T
You
know
we
we've
all
had
a
tough
week
with
the
lots
of
major
trill.
It's
been
pretty
sobering
to.
T
A
I
we
put
major
Trill
to
rest
on
Saturday
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
his
family
and
I
know
it's
a
difficult
situation.
There's
nothing
shocking
situation,
there's
nothing
more
to
be
said
about
that.
There
is
really
no
words
that
you
can
describe
a
loss
to
a
family
of
a
father,
or
especially
so
young
with
children
and
and
that
they
relied
on
him
and
also
looked
up
to
him.
A
The
one
group
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
speak
to
which
is
fine,
because
I
don't
think
it
was
the
right
time
anyway.
It
was
the
police
department
and
I
really
extend
my
sympathy
to
them
too,
because
I
know
he
was
a
friend
of
many
of
those
and
and
also
they
looked
up
to
him
as
well,
we'll
be
doing
a
proclamation,
a
memoriam
Proclamation
at
some
point
in
the
future,
at
the
appropriate
time,
once
The
Grieving
is
done
and
and
it's
convenient
for
the
family.
A
If
this
is
wish,
they
wish
to
do
I'll
be
working
with
a
city
manager
and
chief
young
to
to
come
up
with
the
timing
on
that
and
and
chief
young
I
know
that
your
organization
to
took
a
tremendous
loss,
the
police
department,
as
an
organization
and
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
give
it
your
time
and
thought
of
what
you
need
to
do.
I'm
sure
spend
time
with
the
city
manager
trying
to
figure
it
out
and
I.
Wish
you
well
on
that.
A
I
wish
you
well
and
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
or
whatever
you
need,
you
know
you
can
you're
always
easy
to
talk
to
and
I
hope
we
are
the
same.
So
absolutely,
sir.
Thank
you.
That's
all
I
have
we're
adjourned
at
1009.