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From YouTube: Heritage Preservation Board September 12, 2016
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City of Tarpon Springs Heritage Preservation Board Meeting September 12, 2016
B
B
D
A
E
G
H
H
Okay,
sure
my
legal
name
is
Harold
Douglas
McElwain
I
go
by
Doug,
my
middle
name.
I
live
at
307
I'm.
It
sorry
305
bath
street
right
across
the
alley
lawyer
for
a
little
later
on
in
a
meeting
dear
and
my
concern
or
my
comments
today
are
about
the
historical
map,
confusion,
I've,
spoken
to
multiple
people
in
the
city.
I
live
on.
H
The
south
died
of
Boyer
on
bath
street
in
between
lemon
I
found
one
map
where
I
exist
in
all
other
maps,
I
can't
find
or
all
other
surveys
or
all
everything,
all
research
I've
done,
I
can't
find
where
305
bath
even
exists
so
but
yet
I'm
told
I'm
a
contributing
member
through
the
Historical
Society.
So
if
I'm
on
the
south
side
of
bass
3,
which
I
was
told
this
morning,
I
am
NOT
in
the
historical
district.
Why
am
I
a
contributing
19
number
one
number
two.
H
So
I
want
to
address
those
drainage
issues
with
my
house,
because
every
time
I
range,
hard,
I
thought
and
I
certainly
flooded
big
time,
but
for
me,
but
if
I'm
not
in
the
historical
district,
not
sure
why
I
would
have
to
appear
in
front
of
this
group
to
address
those
issues
but
I'm
told
by
one
person,
I
do
have
two
and
then
I'm
told
by
multiple
other
people.
I,
don't
I
can't
get
a
straight
answer
from
anybody
in
the
city.
H
How
can
you
legitimately
make
our
decision
on
so
much
property
but
on
an
incorrect
meant
or
map
oral
I
think
it
opens
a
large
can
of
worms
and
it
opens
a
pencil
lawsuit,
become
doc
I'm,
a
good
neighbor,
I'm
not
going
to
sue
anybody,
but
if
you've
made
past
decisions
for
people
that
have
had
verse
lee
affected
their
property
and/or
their
wallet
based
on
improper
or
incorrect
map,
I
think
you're
opening
a
large
an
hour
and
that's
I'm
here
mostly
about
the
drainage
issues.
Without
you
again,
oh
thank
you
very
much.
B
Is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi
judicial
hearing?
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
B
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
B
Are
there
any?
Is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
either
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
on
behalf
of
the
applicant?
Please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand
to
be
sworn
in
if
your
applicant?
Yes,
do
you
swear,
affirm
that
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
I
do.
C
F
A
G
D
D
A
A
A
B
C
To
go
back
and
listen
to
the
tape
to
know
if
they,
if
we
formally
even
discussed
whether
or
not
you
know
sections
had
been
different.
Obviously
there
was
a
transition
between
that
previous
application.
The
new
application
with
the
materials
were
different
in
that
type
of
thing,
whether
we
actually
physically
went
over
and
was
stood
the
differences
of
the
application
that
I
don't
remember.
If
we
had
that
conversation
or
not
I.
C
We
dated
you
can
certainly
go
back
and
check
the
tape
and
find
out
what's
on
the
tape
and
if
that's
on
the
tape
I'd
be
glad
to
add
whatever
that
information
is
I
can
have
him,
go
back
and
just
review
that
tape
and
listen
to
see
what
was
discussed
initially
on
that
application
or
throughout
the
application.
If
it
was
discussed,
certainly,
can
we
move
to
the
forward
well,.
C
C
So
then
she
then
she
talked
about
that
and
then
we
went
back
yet
again
after
this
after
this
one,
if
you
remember
but
you'll,
see
in
forthcoming
minutes
and
actually
had
a
hold
separate
application
that
came
forward,
there
were
two
applications
to
formal
applications
here,
but
the
actual
application
was
heard
three
times
because
they're
the
first
application
it
took
them
two
meetings
to
get
through
to
get
approved
then
once
they
got
through
that
Michelle,
unfortunately
didn't
catch.
All
the
things
that
they
wanted
to
do.
They
didn't
have
those
those
conferences
that
should
have
been
had.
D
C
D
C
A
E
Okay,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Lisa
warga
principal
planner,
this
application
CA
1683
located
at
ten
South
Pinellas
Avenue.
This
is
a
contributing
that
altered
structure.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
certificate
of
approval
to
allow
for
new
wall
sign
place
to
a
commercial
business
located
at
the
above-named
address
on
the
corner
of
self-analysis,
avenue
and
west
court
street.
The
architectural
style
is
the
Tudor
Revival
style.
The
zoning
district
is
a
special
area
plan.
E
E
But
that
meal
was
enough
once
again,
I
apologize,
stay,
hey
the
structure
is
a
contributing
but
altered
structure
built
in
the
Tudor
Revival
style
and
was
constructed
circa
nineteen.
Thirty
in
the
depression,
new
new
deal,
historical
contact,
the
building
was
constructed
in
brick
and
has
a
steep
abled
roof
pitch
composed
of
composite
shingles.
There
are
two
off-centered
metal
doors
for
a
main
entrance.
Abortion
of
the
storefront
was
replaced
in
a
canopy
was
removed
circuit.
E
Ninety
nineteen,
eighty
and
portions
of
the
roof
were
replaced
with
a
one-story
flat
roof
on
the
north
side
and
a
one-story
flat
roof
over
the
stucco
portion
of
the
building.
On
the
south
side,
circa
nineteen
sixty
the
applicant
is
seeking
a
certificate
approval
to
allow
for
the
new
wall,
sign
that
the
has
already
been
painted
on
the
front
facade
of
the
stucco
portion
of
the
building
and
the
city
sign
code
allows
for
the
following.
It
allows
for
with
an
historic
preservation,
district
point,
five
point:
five
square
feet
or
linear
feet
of
building
frontage.
E
The
frontage
for
this
property
measures
sixty
eight
feet
and
allows
for
thirty
four
square
feet
of
allowable
sign
area
before
the
building
frontage.
The
new
sign
placed
on
the
facade
equals
approximately
eleven
point:
five
square
feet
in
area,
the
reviewer
review
criteria
and
analysis
and
review
in
an
application
for
the
certificate
of
approval.
E
Number
two:
the
width
and
height
of
windows,
doors
and
entries-
shall
be
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
building's
original,
architectural
style,
repair
or
replacement
of
missing
architectural
features
such
as
windows,
mullions,
doors,
entries,
handrails,
etc,
should
be
based
on
accurate
duplications,
substantiated
by
historic,
visible
or
pictorial
evidence,
rather
than
on
conjectural
designs,
with
availability
of
different
architectural
elements
from
the
other
buildings
or
structures
in
staffs
review.
We
found
that
other
than
retaining
the
wall
in
in
a
neutral
color
at
the
addition
of
the
new
wall
sign
and
an
addition
in
the
wall
site.
E
No
other
features
of
the
structure
have
been
altered.
Number
three
and
number
four
we
found
not
applicable,
but
if
you
all
disagree
with
that,
you
can
obviously
bring
that
up.
Following
the
our
analysis.
Number
five,
the
size
and
mass
or
shape
of
the
building
after
alteration
shall
be
reflective
of
the
building's
original
architectural
style,
the
size
and
mass
or
shape
of
the
proposed
structure.
E
New
construction
should
reflect
the
character
of
contributing
buildings
within
the
district,
as
well
as
those
immediately
surrounding
this
subject
property
and
shall
include
a
review
of
the
architectural
elements
such
as
rooflines,
fenestration
and
other
components
of
facade
design.
With
staffs
analysis,
we
provided
the
design
review
guidelines
manual,
which
states
the
following
in
relation
to
storefronts
and
signs.
E
If
the
original
storefront
or
earlier
storefront
no
longer
exists
or
is
too
deteriorated,
the
historic
marker
of
the
building
shall
be
retained
through
the
contemporary
design
that
is
compatible
to
the
scale,
design,
materials
detailing
and
facade
rhythm
of
the
historic
building,
or
replaced
with
an
accurate
historic
building
sign
with
the
signage
guidelines.
These
guidelines
shall
be
implemented
in
conjunction
with
the
existing
sign
ordinances.
E
New
signage
shall
be
located
on
the
flat
unadorned
parts
of
the
facade,
such
as
the
on
horizontal
band
between
the
storefront
and
second
floor,
or
on
Windows
awning,
flaps,
Basha
or
fries,
or
other
areas
where
signs
have
been
historically
placed
on
the
building
the
size.
The
mass
of
the
new
sign
is
working
under
staffs
analysis.
The
size
of
mass
of
the
new
sign
is
more
compatible
with
the
structure
than
a
previous
wall
sign.
So
it's
in
stops
opinion
the
additional
design
elements.
E
Additional
design
elements
can
be
added
to
the
new
wall,
sign
to
portray
a
more
historic
appearance.
Number
six
pertains
to
landscaping
and
there
was
no
landscaping
added
in
this
case
number.
Seven,
the
district,
the
distinctive
art,
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
having
a
problem
with
my
words
today,
the
distinctive
architectural
features
shall
be
repaired
rather
than
replaced
wherever
possible
architectural
details,
including
colour
materials,
texture
and
site
lighting,
shall
be
treated
as
to
make
the
building
structure
or
traditional
cultural
property
consistent
with
the
property's
original
architectural
style
and
character.
E
E
Number
eight
all
building
structures,
sites
and
traditional
cultural
property
shall
be
recognized
as
products
of
their
own
time.
Any
alterations,
modifications
or
other
changes
to
the
structure
or
traditional
cultural
property
should
not
attempt
to
create
an
early
appearance
than
original
date
of
the
construction.
Under
stats
analysis,
we
have
found
that
had
staff
had
the
opportunity
to
review
a
proposed
wall
sign
design
through
the
permitting
process
prior
to
the
applicant
performing
the
work
without
a
required
sign
permit,
we
would
have
recommended
the
incorporation
of
historic
elements
and
character
into
the
design
of
the
sign
under
number.
E
Nine.
The
renovation
of
contributing
structures
in
an
historic
or
cultural
district
or
the
designated
sites
shall
meet
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
guidelines
for
rehabilitating
historic
buildings.
Under
stress
analysis,
we
found
that
we
provided
that
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
recommend
the
following.
When
a
storefront
is
replaced,
designing
and
constructing
a
new
storefront
when
the
historic
storefront
is
completely
missing,
it
may
be
yeah,
it
may
be
an
accurate
restoration
using
historical
pictorial
and
physical
documentation
or
be
a
new
design
that
is
compatible
with
the
size.
Scale.
E
Introducing
a
new
design
that
is
incompatible
in
size
and
scale
and
material
and
color
is
also
not
recommended,
not
recommended,
is
using
in
appropriately
scaled
signs
and
logos
or
other
types
of
signs
that
obscure
damage
or
destroy
remaining
character,
defining
features
of
the
historic
building
under
number
10.
The
proposed
projects
all
shall
conform
with
other
requirements
of
the
code
and
being
employment.
E
Compliance
with
applicable
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
staff
now
finds
that
the
new
sign
is
in
compliance
with
the
city's
land
development
code,
the
special
area
plan,
district
regulations
and
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
We
also
find
that
no
archaeological
sites
will
be
impacted.
For
this
reason,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
applicants
request
for
the
new
wall
sign
any
questions.
G
Just
because
I'm
new,
but
when
I
look
when
we
read
through
this,
there
seems
to
be
one
two,
three
four
five
instances
where
the
staff
kind
of
questions
the
new
sign,
particularly
like
number
8,
it
says,
had
add
the
staff
had
the
opportunity
to
review
a
proposed
wall
sign
design
through
the
permitting
pots
process
prior
to
the
app
and
performing
the
work.
You
would
have
recommended
incorporating
historic
elements
so
I'm
guessing
there
was
that
opportunity
did
not
exist.
I,
don't
understand
why
that
opportunity,
didn't
it.
C
G
G
E
G
E
E
Is
correct?
We
don't
we
don't
object
to
the
actual
design
of
a
billet.
The
font
probably
could
have
been
a
little
more
historic.
Maybe
even
some
type
of
scroll
were
designed
around
it
make
it
look,
no
more
historical
as
far
as
the
massing,
because
we
find
that
all
in
compliance
with
design
guidelines,
it.
G
G
C
Don't
know
when
the
original
sign
was
actually
put
up
on
to
that
building.
As
a
result,
the
that
sign
did
not
meet
wasn't
even
close
to
meeting
your
design
guidelines
when
you
review
these
types
of
applications,
when
staff
does
not
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
an
application
or
request
before
it's
actually
placed
on
a
wall
now,
in
this
case
we're
talking
about
paint
on
a
wall.
C
That
being
the
case,
it's
still
burdensome
to
the
applicant
to
have
to
basically
paint
over
that
just
to
come
back
through
the
process
to
get
approval
for
another
sign.
We
have
lots
of
things
that
we
end
up
going
through
the
process.
After
the
fact,
I
I
wish
that
wasn't
the
case.
I
wish
folks
would
come
in
sit
with
my
staff
set
with
Anthony
staff,
go
over
the
requirements
that
are
doing
that
are
required,
so
that
these
things
don't
happen.
C
Unfortunately,
when
they
do
happen,
we
make
the
best
of
the
situation
that
we
can
the
massing.
It
does
in
fact
meet
the
requirements
of
your
your
design
guidelines.
Would
we
like
it
to
have
a
more
historic
feel?
Yes,
but
you
do
not
have
design
review
here
in
tarpon
springs
with
the
exception
of.
What's
in
your
design
manual,
you
do
not
have
uniform
sign
codes.
You
do
not
have
that
now.
C
When
we
looked
at
the
last
signs
that
we
really
kind
of
really
looked
at
any
any
depth,
or
it
was
just
a
sign
application
which,
for
the
historic
train
depot
that
font
fits
the
character
of
that
particular
building,
the
character
of
this
building
is
somewhat
changed
from
the
bike
shop.
That
used
to
be
there,
the
kayak
shop
that
used
to
be
there
to
a
little
bit
different
type
of
a
rate
of
retail
use.
C
They
have
a
more
modern
logo
and
that
type
of
thing
the
interesting
thing
is
you're
dealing
with
a
business
that
deals
with
a
historic
component
to
its
at
salvage,
its
antiques,
its
historical
items
that
come
through
there.
That
being
the
case,
the
fact
that
they
didn't
come
for,
we
don't
want
to
be
overly
burdensome
to
them,
but
we
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
the
fact
that
this
board,
on
an
increasing
basis,
is
seeing
applications
like
this.
C
That
are,
after
the
fact
we
want
to
bring
those
forward
and
be
fair
to
the
applicant
that
you
are
meeting
the
criteria.
However,
there
are
things
that
you
could
have
done
that
you
still
consider
to
do
because
again
we're
talking
about
paint
on
a
wall,
we're
not
talking
about
somebody
who
put
in
some
type
of
wall
sign
or
something
that
was,
you
know,
plaster
on
the
building
or
stuccoed
onto
the
building.
You're
really
talking
about
paint
on
a
wall.
C
Again,
we
try
to
accommodate
applicants
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
but
there's
a
fine
line
to
walk
between
what's
appropriate
and
you
know
what
we
can.
Actually
we
can
do.
The
board
certainly
can
recommend
if
you'd
like
that,
the
applicant
look
at
additional
options.
I,
don't
know
that
you're
going
to
get
a
positive
vibe.
This
is
really
their
logo
up
on
the
wall.
They
don't
have
a
logo
like
some
places.
Have
you
know
a
mascot
or
that
type
of
thing
or
like
with
the
popcorn
factory,
on
their
sign?
C
They
have
a
logo
for
their
their
particular
thing.
Their
logo
is
their
name,
so
really
that
more
modern
appeal
to
that
name,
if
that's
really
the
treatment
for
their
for
their
business,
to
try
to
sell
their
business
if
it's
if
it
fits
if
it
doesn't
fit
its
really.
In
this
case
a
judgment
call,
it
fits
the
intent
of
the
of
the
sign
code.
C
Definitely
it
fits
the
land
development
code
requirements
for
the
sizing
and
that
type
of
thing,
the
color
pattern
and
in
Pallet
that
they
chose
is
probably
one
of
the
more
appropriate
ones
that
we've
had
come
through.
Lately
we've
had
some
kind
of
interesting
signs
of
Lee.
You
know
those
type
of
things
are
all
there.
It's
just
a
question
of.
C
We
would
have
preferred
the
applicant
to
come
to
us
first,
so
we
could
have
kind
of
sat
down
had
those
conversations
given
them
the
opportunity
say:
here's
the
design
guidelines
for
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
before
you
go
forward
and
do
a
sign.
Please
walk
the
district,
see
the
things
that
people
have
done
in
the
district,
and
certainly
that
would
have
given
us
the
time
to
send
both
them
to
hibiscus
tree,
where
the,
where
the
is
appropriate
to
the
train
depot,
where
the
site,
where
the
sign
and
the
fonts
on
the
signs
are
all
appropriate.
C
G
You
for
helping
me
understand:
I
I
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
say
to
the
applicant
that
it
is
a
proof,
but
since
it
is
only
paint
and
will
be
half
apt
to
be
repainted
at
some
point
in
the
future,
that
the
recommendations
on
these
particular,
particularly
these
five
items,
that
we
we
question
but
are
still
allowing
be
either
corrected
or
attended
to
in
some
in
some
manner.
I.
A
C
I
wish
it
didn't
have
to
be
that
way,
but
with
a
staff
of
22
people-
and
you
know,
as
a
recording
secretary,
this
is
just
not
feasible
to
us
for
us
to
do
a
major
project
like
that
with
the
with
the
other
pieces
that
we
have.
So
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
bit
by
bit.
Certainly
the
sign
code
may
be
an
easy
low-hanging
fruit
for
us
to
kind
of
work
with
you
guys
on
that
may
be
the
best
place
to
start
I.
C
Just
don't
know
if
it's
the
most
important
piece
for
us
to
do
so,
we'll
be
looking
for.
You
guys
and
again
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
to
give
me
ideas.
I
mean
obviously
don't
email
each
other,
but
if
you
want
to
email
me
I'm,
your
staff
liaison
you
individually
can
email
me.
If
you
have
ideas-
or
you
see
things
and
other
communities
of
those
type
of
things
that
you
kind
of
want
to
a
dialogue.
I
can
have
those
dialogues
with
you
guys
individually.
We
can
talk
about
this
board.
I
can
agenda
items.
C
We
can
talk
about
those
things
I'm,
certainly
on
this
board
when
you're
all
you're
all
here,
but
those
type
of
things-
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on
outside
of
my
office,
because
I
don't
spend
a
lot
of
time
outside
of
Tarpon
Springs
matter
of
fact,
last
week
in
Tampa
is
probably
the
most
time
that
I've
spent
out
at
Tarpon
Springs
other
than
going
grocery
shopping.
I.
Just
this
is
my
community.
Now
I
spend
all
my
time
here,
especially
in
this
building,
so
that
being
the
keys
I,
don't
get
a
lot
of
time
to
go
out.
C
C
So
anything
that
you
want
to
share
in
that
way
and
then
again,
what
we
can
do
is
maybe
at
the
next
meeting,
is
kind
of
set
up
what
we
want
to
kind
of
accomplished,
maybe
in
the
next
six
months,
and
then
do
it
again
in
six
months
later
and
that
type
of
thing
just
so
we
kind
under
board
comments.
We
can
kind
of
just
have
a
chat
about
that,
so
that
we
know
where
you
guys
want
to
go
so
that
we
can
try
to
fill
in
those
gaps
and
try
to
address
some
of
these
issues.
A
I
There
any
bit
of
this
certificate
for
approval
that
actually
like
identifies
that
this
is
an
infraction
or
or
that
this
was
a
sign,
that's
already
been
painted,
and
that
because
I
was
I
mean
how
maybe
I
wasn't
reading
it.
That's
sort
of
under
the
impression
they
were
building
a
new
sign
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
on
the
building
yeah.
C
This
is
the
only
sign,
that's
being
requested
at
this
time
now,
if
they
choose
to
do
other
signs.
Obviously,
when
we
go
back
to
the
applicant
with
whatever
you
guys
do
decide
tonight,
we
will
sit
with
the
apple
and
explain.
Okay,
you
this
happened
once
we
don't
want
to
see
a
reoccurrence
of
this.
If
it
does,
then,
where
the
penalty
comes
in
is
not
so
much
this
board,
is
they
when
they
go
to
actually
permit
this?
They
end
up,
paying
double,
sometimes
triple
permit
fees
and
that's
where
the
punishment
for
doing
anything
without
a
permit.
C
C
Can
certainly
add
to
the
to
the
staff
analysis
just
the
fact
that
it's
an
after-the-fact
we
try
to
downplay
that
as
much
as
possible,
because
obviously
we
really
don't
want
to
be
punitive
to
people.
Sometimes
people,
especially
our
business
owners,
who
maybe
knew
or
had
their
stuff
done
from
you
know.
The
previous
owner
did
all
their
signage
for
them
and
they
kind
of
just
moved
in
and
it
was,
you
know,
ready
to
go
if
they
haven't
had
to
deal
with
that
before
they
just
yeah.
I
D
C
Just
in
one
minute,
I
just
want
to
make
the
board
aware.
This
is
one
of
the
first
errors
that
I
have
found
in
our
historic
district.
The
site
filed
a
master
site
file
for
this
application
shows
the
house,
as
it
appears,
I've
I,
went
out.
I
reviewed
everything
that
was
done
for
that.
However,
the
mapping
portion
that
is
added
to
the
back
of
those
master
site
files,
those
really
bad
GIS
maps
that
are
really
hard
to
read,
and
then
the
GPS
information.
That's
there.
C
The
reason
why
those
are
added
to
the
maps
is
so
that
in
today's
technology
with
GIS,
we
can
just
easily
locate
them
on
a
map,
because
the
master
site
file
was
in
correct.
That
error
was
carried
over
into
your
map,
so
staff
is
going
to
be
doing
some
research
to
see
what
we
have
to
do
at
the
state
level
to
fix
the
master
site
file.
That's
the
number
one
piece
that
needs
to
happen.
We
need
to
fix
those
mapping
errors
that
were
attached
to
that
master
site
file,
so
that
everything
is
correct.
C
Then
staff
will
then
have
to
amend
your
mat
for
your
historic
district
to
relocate
the
piece
of
where
is
the
contributing
structure
versus
where
are
the
other
structures
that
are
deemed
along
with
that?
What
mr.,
what
Doug
has
brought
up
to
us
today
about
his
property
at
305?
We're
going
to
have
to
do
some
research
on
that,
because
that
is
not
included
in
the
master
site
file.
C
However,
because
this
mapping
error
happened,
we
need
to
research
and
make
sure
that
there
wasn't
an
error
that
meant
to
show
his
property
as
well
as
part
of
that
and
just
was
never
followed
through
on
these
do
happen.
What
I
think
is
a
happen
here
is
it's
just
a
mapping
error
and
it
was
just
carried
over
into
the
map,
and
so
that's
been
carried
over
into
several
different
iterations.
It
all
started
with
that
master
site
file
being
incorrect
than
the
g
is
created.
C
It
brought
it
over
into
the
map
because
again
they
used
the
N
address
their
address.
Locator
had
the
wrong
227.
The
location
of
227
was
wrong
on
the
map.
It's
not
unheard
of
here,
because
your
addresses
have
changed
over
time.
Drastically
here
in
the
city,
so
as
a
result,
I'm
pretty
sure
that
that's
what
happened,
but
I
want
to
be
sure
sure.
So,
as
a
result,
that's
going
to
happen
then,
once
those
things
happen-
and
we
are
pretty
sure
that
that
map
comes
back
through
it'll
have
to
get
readapted
in
all
that
form.
C
I
will
then
have
to
amend
the
comprehensive
plan
where
we
added
that
map
as
well.
So
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
process.
There's
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
moving
parts.
The
first
place
we
want
to
start
with.
This
is
definitely
that
master
site
probably
want
to
make
sure
that's
correct.
I
want
to
be
able
to
answer
Doug's
questions
about
his
property,
specifically
because
he
is
in
the
district,
but
he
is
shown
as
right
now
he's
incorrectly
shown
as
a
contributing
structure.
C
However,
the
pictures
the
description
are
actually
for
227
bath,
which
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley
he's
on
the
there
on
the
north
side
of
the
alley
versus
it's
shown
on
the
south
side
of
the
alley.
So
that's
a
problem.
We
need
to
fix
that.
That's
actually
not
an
alley.
It's
boyer
street
there,
but
it
appears
to
be
an
ally,
it's
just
a
very
small
road.
As
a
result,
we
need
to
correct
that.
C
None
of
us
were
here
when
those
master
site
files
were
created,
we're
going
to
have
to
work
with
the
state
to
figure
out
what
their
processes
fix
that
first
and
then
there's
going
to
be
many
steps
after
that
for
us
to
fix,
because,
of
course,
your
documents
are
pervasive
in
many
different
documents,
because
they've
been
added
to
the
comp
plan,
they've
been
added
to
the
land
development
code.
So
all
those
different
documents
will
get
fixed
to
address
that,
at
the
same
time
that
we
do
that
it
will
be.
C
C
It
will
be
easier
if
somebody
clicks
on
it
and
it
gives
an
informational
page
that
kind
of
says:
okay,
here's
the
here's,
the
master
site
file
number
and
then
here
is
the
address
so
that
people
can
go
back
and
forth
because,
right
now
we
don't
have
a
super
user
friendly
master
site
for
I'm,
hoping
that
that's
one
of
those
things
that,
as
we
kind
of
bite
off
little
small
pieces,
we
can
go
forward
and
get
us
again
I
much
better
system
where,
eventually,
what
I
would
like
to
see.
Is
you
click
on
that
and
boom?
C
It
goes
right
to
the
master
site
file.
That's
we're
ways
away
from
something
like
that,
but
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
all
that's
got
to
happen.
I
don't
want
to
hold
this
applicant
up,
because
I
have
no
idea
how
long
that's
going
to
take
to
fix
his
property,
but
I
did
go
out.
The
master
Cybele
matches
his
house.
The
pictures
matches
house
that
we
do
have
I,
don't
have
any
of
the
field
notes
of
that
type
of
thing.
C
G
Was
going
that
that's
actually
part
of
my
questions
because
I
went
through
our
resources
that
are
online
I
couldn't
key
on
and
so
I
went
online
and
I
was
able
to
zoom
in
and
when
I
looked
at
the
map
there
was
gross
discrepancies
between
the
property,
we're
talking
about
and
Janice
I
guess.
That's
you
were
talking
about.
Danna
Janice
was
the
one
that
validated
this
aerial
photograph
is
being
is
the
property,
but
it's.
G
C
Is
in
fact
listed
there
what's
wrong
as
the
maps
that
show
it
on
one
side,
whoop
on
one
side
of
the
street,
and
it
actually
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
but
it
is
a
contributing
structure.
It
does
need
to
come
here
for
the
types
of
improvements
that
are
being
requested.
Any
of
the
other
properties
that
are
listed
there
are
either
that
are
actually
south
of
this
are
either
contributing
but
altered,
or
they
are
non
historic
homes.
C
Now
I
will
tell
you
if
you
go
out
there
and
stand
next
to
227,
and
you
look
at
305
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
you're
talking
the
difference
between
the
fifth
of
the
late
50s
and
the
early
60s.
Okay,
that's
how
close
we're
talking
about
I
would
say
that
house
at
305
may
have
some
historical
significance.
C
However,
it
wasn't
included
as
a
contributing
structure,
as
our
master
site
fell,
recognizes
it,
but
again,
I
wasn't
here
when
that
happened.
I
have
no
idea
what
your
cutoff
time
frame
was
for
that,
because
that
house
style
was
60
on
it.
Could
it
could
have
been
late,
sixties
versus
the
early
60s?
So
that
being
the
case,
it's
really
hard
to
determine
just
listening.
They're
looking
at
the
house,
you
know
I
would
need
their
notes
to
tell
me
why
they
did
x,
y
and
z,
and
what
was
the
criteria
for
listening
to
determine
answer
that
question.
C
That
is
his
physical
address
and
I
went
out
and
feel
verified
this,
because
I
don't
trust
anything
like
this
in
Tarpon
when
I
find
discrepancies,
because
addressing
has
been
such
a
interesting
Avenue
since
I've
gotten
here
in
Tarpon,
things
have
changed
addressing
many
many
many
many
times,
and
so
as
a
result,
when
you
get
into
those
historical
pieces,
address,
has
changed
all
the
time,
because
businesses
changed
neighbors
change
on
even
building
sometimes
change.
They
changed
the
location
on
their
property.
C
When
we
have
one
property
that
we
had
a
house
move,
somebody
coming
new
would
not
know
that
that
house
was
moved
across
the
street
from
the
ecovillage
property
and
when
they
go
to
look
at
the
the
master
site
file
for
that
house,
they're
going
to
look
at
the
master
site
file
for
an
address,
that's
actually
across
the
street.
That's
how
them
that's,
how
those
master
site
files
are
set
up.
C
We
need
to
go
through
as
a
staff
and
start
correcting
those
things
that
were
never
corrected
and
that's
been
pervasive
for
probably
as
long
as
this
boards
been
doing
demolitions
and
those
types
of
things.
Those
things
haven't
been
corrected
that
I'm,
aware
of
so
those
are
those
types
of
things
that
we
need
to
go
back
to
our
files
and
start
correct.
Doing
these
correction
at
these
corrective
actions.
C
Just
give
me
one
more
second,
because
we
kind
of
need
to
get
your
application
going
here.
So
I
don't
keep
everybody
all
night,
but
those
are
those
type
of
things
that
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with.
So
in
madam
chair,
it's
up
to
you
whether
you
want
me
to
address
this
question
or
you
want
us
to
start
the
application.
Then,
when
he
gets
up
with.
C
E
F
E
Applicant
is
requesting
a
certificate
of
approval
for
the
construction
of
an
attached
garage
studio
and
a
screen
breezeway
leading
to
the
existing
home.
The
architectural
style
is
masonry
vernacular.
The
zoning
district
is
the
are
sixty
one
and
two-family
district
and
it
is
located
within
the
residential
urban
future
land
use
struck.
The
structure
is
a
contributing
structure
built
in
the
masonry,
vernacular
style
and
was
constructed
in
1957.
The
building
was
constructed
in
concrete
block
and
has
a
stucco
and
weatherboard
exterior
was
scoring
on
the
stucco
with
jalousie
windows
that
wrap
the
building
corners.
E
The
house
has
gable
and
flat
roof
with
an
louvers,
and
it's
topped
with
a
with
composite
shingles.
It
appears
as
though
the
roof
was
either
repaired
or
replaced
in
1990
prior
to
the
applicants
purchase
of
the
home.
The
applicant
is
seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
to
allow
for
garage
studio
edition
within
patch
freeze
by
connecting
to
the
home
and
reviewing
the
application
for
a
certificate
approval.
E
The
board
shall
consider
the
following
criteria:
the
height
and
width
of
any
proposed
alteration
or
new
construction
shall
be
consistent
with
that
of
adjacent
contributing
structures
and
those
structures,
a
similar
character
and
architectural
style
found
throughout
the
median,
neighborhood
or
district
understand
alisis.
We
report
that,
since
the
proposed
addition
is
connected
to
the
home
through
a
breeze
by,
is
technically
considered
part
of
the
house
square
footage.
E
E
The
relationship
of
the
structure
within
an
historic
or
cultural
preservation,
district
to
the
open
space
between
it
and
the
street
and
to
other
buildings
or
scenic
views,
vistas
or
streetscapes
characterizing.
The
area
shall
be
protected
through
a
site
plan,
review
process,
addressing
setbacks,
roof
blinds
garage
placement,
parking
and
access
analysis
and
the
of
landscaping
des
responses.
The
lot
measure
60
by
143
feet
the
required
lot.
Setbacks
will
be
met.
E
In
addition,
is
beings
constructed
behind
the
existing
house,
so
the
view
from
the
front
street
will
be
limited
under
number
for
the
shape
and
texture
of
the
roof
shall
replicate
the
shape,
texture
and
type
of
roof,
distinguishing
the
building's
original
architecture
and
on
structures
of
similar
style
and
age
within
the
historic
and
cultural
preservation.
District
fast
responses
that
the
applicant
has
provided,
updated,
conceptual
elevations
of
the
design
of
the
proposed
garage
studio
edition
with
patio
balcony
screening
walls
that
would
be
constructed
with
horizontal
cedar
boards
number
5
the
size.
E
A
mass
of
the
building
after
alteration
shall
be
reflective
of
the
building's
original
architectural
style
I'm.
Sorry,
what's
my
place,
the
size
of
mass
or
shape
of
the
proposed
structure.
New
constructor
should
reflect
the
character
of
contributing
buildings
within
the
district,
as
well
as
those
immediately
surrounding
the
subject
property
and
shall
include
a
review
of
architectural
elements
such
as
rooflines,
fenestration
and
other
components
of
assad
design.
Staffs
responses
that
by
code,
any
accessory
structure
must
be
subordinate
an
area
to
the
primary
structure.
The
existing
home
consists
of
1085
square
feet.
E
The
proposed
garage
studio
consists
of
816
square
feet.
The
aerial
photo
provided
within
the
staff
report
shows
the
houses
and
lock
coverages
found
within
the
same
block,
which
actually
cover
a
more
square
footage
on
the
Lots
and
the
neighboring
rooflines
range
from
flat
to
salt
box
and
gabled
number.
Sixth,
the
landscaping
shall
be
utilized,
as
means
to
enhance
the
architectural
character
and
appearance
of
the
structure
under
stephs
analysis.
We
found
that
this
is
a
new
home
for
the
applicant
just
purchased
in
august
of
last
year.
E
The
applicant
is
moving
in
from
wisconsin
and
he
is
blown
in
or
this
meeting
to
inhabit
the
home
and
will
be
providing
additional
landscaping
in
the
future
under
number
7.
Distinctive
architectural
features
shall
be
repaired
rather
than
replay
whenever
possible.
Architectural
details,
including
color
materials,
texture
and
site
lighting,
shall
be
treated
so
as
to
make
the
building
structure
or
traditional
cultural
property
consistent
with
the
property's
original
architectural
style
and
character.
New
materials
should
replicate
the
building,
the
material
being
replaced
in
composition,
design,
color,
texture
and
other
visual
qualities.
E
Staffs
response
is
that
the
applicant
wishes
to
utilize
Hardie
board,
siding
in
the
construction
of
the
new
addition
and
a
color
and
texture
that
matches
the
existing
home
under
number
8.
All
building
struck
and
structures
sites
and
traditional
cultural
properties
shall
be
recognized
as
products
at
their
own
time,
so
that
any
alterations,
modifications
or
other
changes
to
the
structure
or
traditional
cultural
property
to
not
attempt
to
create
an
early
appearance
than
the
original
date
of
the
construction
staffs
responses.
It
is
not
anticipated
that
the
new
structure
will
portray
an
earlier
appearance
number.
Nine.
E
Considering
the
attached
exterior
addition,
both
in
terms
of
the
new
use
and
the
appearance
of
other
buildings
in
the
historic
district
or
neighborhood
designed
for
the
new
work,
may
be
contemporary
or
may
reference
design
motifs
from
the
historic
building
number
10.
The
proposed
project
shall
conform
to
other
requirements
of
the
code
and
be
in
compliance
with
applicable
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
E
Sass
response
is,
the
new
edition
will
be
required
to
meet
the
city's
land
development
code
through
the
permitting
process
and
the
goals
of
the
objectives
and
policies
of
it's
a
plan,
and
we
do
not
suspect
that
there
are
any
archaeological
sites
which
will
be
impacted.
For
this
reason,
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
applicants
request
for
the
new
edition
with
party
board.
Siding
is
provided
any
questions,
I.
C
I
A
J
I
J
J
Well,
they
didn't
make
Hardie
board
back
then
it's
actually
a
stucco
black
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
any
of
the
photos
of
these
of
the
existing
house,
but
the
gable
sides
of
the
house
have
a
lap
siding,
and
that
was
the
reason.
I
chose
the
smooth
siding
for
the
addition
and
I
chose
Hardie
board
because
of
its
weather,
resistance
and
hardiness.
J
J
If
anything
happens,
we
may
cut
a
few
two
feet
off
of
the
back
of
it,
so
it
might
even
be
smaller.
It
will
not
be
larger.
My
wife
and
I
are
it's
just
the
two
of
us
and
where
we
want
to
have
frankly
as
low
an
impact
as
possible,
it
will
not
be
larger.
It's
possible
that
we'll
lose
some
square
footage.
J
E
D
Just
have
a
question
on
I:
guess
it's
on
the
updated
agenda
and
it's
the
area
in
red
that
says
analysis
on
s.
Let's
see
if
the
first
page
of
the
report
would
be
page
one
page
to
page
three
and
it's
the
very
bottom
analysis
there
that's
about
halfway
down
the
page.
It
says
the
applicant
has
provided
updated
conceptual
elevations
of
the
design
of
the
proposed
garage
studio
edition
provided
on
the
next
three
pages.
The
brown
walls
shown
our
patio
balcony
screening
walls
that
will
be
constructed
with
horizontal
cedar
boards.
D
C
J
C
J
E
G
C
C
They'll
have
to
when
they
come
in
from
the
time
permitting,
they
will
have
to
give
us
updated
surveys,
but
usually
for
these
types
of
applications.
If
they
have
a
survey,
we're
super
happy
because
they're
then
we
know
that
at
least
those
survey
boundaries
we
can.
We
know
that
that's
the
boundary
now
when
you
get
a
little
bit
farther
back
in
time.
It's
questionable
at
how
good
the
survey
technology
was
back
then,
and
how
good
the
surveyor
was.
C
So
we
take
that
with
a
grain
of
salt,
but
the
applicant
will
have
to
prove
to
us
that
permitting
that
they
meet
the
minimum
setbacks
if
they
don't
prove
that
they
will
have
to
alter
their
plan
now,
a
setback
changing
isn't
necessarily
going
to
drastically
change
the
appearance
of
this.
If
it
comes
as
long
as
it's
coming
into
the
property,
not
going
closer
to
the
property
were
satisfied,
so,
yes,
we
would
normally
ask
for
an
updated
survey,
but
again
we
tried
to
be
reasonable
with
that.
G
C
5-Foot
he's
showing
meets
the
requirement
now
whether
that
five
foot
is
actually
showing
there
is
the
physical
five
foot
I
can't
dispute
that
without
an
updated
survey.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
rough
survey
for
me
to
go
off
of
any
way,
but
it's
sufficient
for
the
needs
to
verify
that
they
are
attempting
to
meet
your
regulations.
A
J
J
C
J
H
Thank
you
again
for
letting
me
talk
speak
to
the
cord
and
again
my
name
is
Doug
McCoy
and
I'm.
Next-Door
neighbor
and
we've
become
fast
friends
already
and
I.
Just
had
a
couple
concerns
and
and
I
know
this
isn't
the
drainage
meeting,
but
part
of
these
concerns
are
going
to
address
the
drainage
again
I'm
a
little
concerned,
and
nobody
knows
better
than
Phil
about
how
bad
we
flood
there.
As
we've
been
sandbagging
his
house,
and
he
completely
got
flooded
out
in
this
last
one.
H
All
the
rain
and
all
the
water
and
all
the
flooding
comes
from
behind
our
two
houses
and
from
the
storm
drain
in
front.
So
my
concern
with
the
roof
line
and
it's
set
back
in
the
orientation
of
the
building
on
this
property
in
the
landscaping
and
everything
else.
If
he
builds
all
this
all
that
water,
that's
currently
coming
through
his
backyard
into
his
house,
is
going
to
be
forced
into
my
art
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
address
all
those
issues
and
my
concern
and
Heather
and
our
meeting
tomorrow.
H
We
have
to
change
the
time.
I
have
a
doctor's
appointment,
so
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
that.
Another
time.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
address
all
those
issues,
because
I
need
to
be
able
to
address
my
problems,
and
it
sounds
like
this
process
to
change
the
maps
to
find
out
if
I'm,
historical
or
not
is
going
to
take
a
whole
long
time
and
I
can't
really
wait.
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
expect
going
record
to
express
concern
that
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
what
this
structure
is
just
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
flooding
for
me,
maybe
minimize
his,
which
floods
terribly,
also
because
it's
going
to
redirect
all
the
water
away
from
the
back
of
its
existing
structure
towards
the
Boyer,
River
Boyer
alley
and
my
house.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I.
A
A
Think,
unfortunately,
is
we
had
natural
drainage
at
one
point
in
time
where
all
those
town
houses
were
built
and
now,
when
we're
having
a
lot
more
water
issues,
those
you
know
there's
just
not
enough
places
for
that
water
to
go
and,
as
you
say,
so,
it
needs
to
have
some
real,
strong
different.
You
know
remedies
done
to
that
area,
our
street
never
flooded
and
when
those
townhouses
were
put
in
it
started
the
blood
on
the
pineapple
street
side
too.
So
anyway,
I
certainly
understand
what
you're
talking
about
the
water,
but
back
to
the
addition.
I
Can
we
put
out
those
caveats
into
the
approval
if
we've
made
that
motion
to
draw
into
your
plans
at
either
a
composite
party
board
finish
with
stucco
rather
than
the
lap
siding
blessin
matching
gable,
the
roofline
think
that
would
be
an
important
caveat
in
there
as
well.
That's
something
that
we've
addressed
another
yeah.
C
You
can
certainly,
if
you
want
to
change
this
approval
like
if
you
don't
want
the
hard
you're
bored,
if
you
want
it
to
be
a
stucco
appearance
or
if
you
want
that
to
everything
you
certainly
those
sections
of
the
approval,
you
would
basically
just
deny
the
use
of
Hardy
border
like,
which
is
what
we've
done
instead
additional
applications,
if
you
want
an
additional
gable,
obviously
I
would
ask
the
Apple
tickin
to
come
back
up,
so
you
guys
can
kind
of
talk
about
this
so
that
they
can.
They
can
be
part
of
that
discussion.
C
But
if
that's,
if
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
board,
that
you
want
to
add
features
or
you
want
to
talk
to
the
apne
about
specific
design
features
now,
there's
two
different
issues
here.
What
I
heard
the
chair
say
is
I,
don't
have
enough
information
to
render
a
decision.
If
that's
the
question,
then
we
need
to
know
specifically,
we
give
the
applicant
a
specific
list
of
what
you
would
like.
Okay,
that's
the
first
piece,
if
you
feel
you
have
enough
information,
but
you
would
like
additional
changes
to
what
you
see
here.
C
That's
the
conversation
that
we
have
that
when
you
do
your
motion,
you
would
add
conditions
or
ask
to
have
items
removed
from
your
actual
approval
and
if
your
approval
differs
from
what
the
applicant
wants
they
have,
they
have
apple
news
to
pursue.
You
know
remediation
if
they
feel
that
that's
necessary,
but
you
as
a
board
have
that
power
to
determine
what
you
think
is
appropriate.
Now,
again,
it's
a
to
store.
It's
a
two
thing:
it's
a
two
situation.
We
got
two
different
motions.
Really
here.
One
is
continued.
C
G
C
Isn't
a
perfect
for
this
kiss
contributing
structure
but
is
also
appropriate
for
the
district,
because
you're
answering
two
questions
when
you
answer
these
applications.
Yes,
it's
appropriate
for
the
home
or
no,
it's
not
appropriate
for
the
home,
and,
yes,
it's
appropriate
for
the
district
or
no,
it's
not
appropriate
for
the
district,
and
sometimes
those
can
be
in
conflict
with
each
other,
and
you
guys
have
to
kind
of
work
that
out
with
what
the
conditions
that
you
propose.
So
one.
A
Of
the
things
you
mentioned
when
you're
looking
at
historic
homes
and
what
were
they
were
looking
at,
probably
in
2009
when
they
did
this
survey,
is
it
felt
in
in
that
category
of
a
historic
home
at
the
time
and
in
the
time
period
of
the
50s,
it
was
now
beginning
to
be
recognized
as
a
significant
type
of
architecture.
So,
to
me,
the
architecture
and
the
drawings
are
totally
different.
I
I
I
I
C
Type
of
construction
only
matters
if
it
affects
the
finish.
So
that's
where
that's
where
the
rub
comes
in.
If
you
want
to
use
if
you're
going
to
do
construction,
and
you
want
that
lap,
siding,
look
whether
you're
using
Hardie
board
or
what
pine
board
it
really
doesn't
make
a
difference
here
that
into
introduction
of
that
horizontal
plane
is
really
where
you're
having
where
you
guys
are
getting
the
the
change
in
just
the
change.
In
that
whole
appearance.
I
C
G
C
I
C
You
don't
have
to
have
architectural
renderings
for
every
house.
It's
just
some
folks
are
a
little
bit
farther
along
in
the
process
and
have
really
chosen
that
look
or
that
type
of
thing.
Where
he's
still
meeting
with
with
construction
folks,
he
may
be
still
kind
of
working
with
an
architect
as
well
on
what
that's
going
to
get,
and
it's
he's
going
to
have
to
reconcile
you
know
being
in
Wisconsin
in
Florida.
At
the
same
time.
So
he's
got
an
extra
step
here.
I
C
A
C
A
C
No
we're
not
telling
you
whether
it
has
to
be
stick-built
or
whether
it
has
to
be
block
as
long
as
you
put
a
treatment
on
it
that
matches
the
existing.
Now,
if
you
choose
to
treat
the
entire
structure,
you
may
need
to
come
back
if
that
treatments
going
to
do
something,
but
you
would
work
with
me
and
Lisa
on
that,
and
we
would
let
you
know
if
that
you're
going
beyond
what
the
intention
of
the
board
was
with
that.
C
So
when
you
get
a
little
bit
farther
along
and
the
actual
treatment
you
want
to
choose,
and
there
may
be
a
hardy
board
type
treatment,
you
can
utilize
on
a
stick
built
home.
That
will
give
you
that
suck
a
look
I,
don't
know
enough
about
Hardie
board
the
book,
because
what
we've
seen
of
this
board
is
basically
lap
siding
because
that's
what
everybody
wants
to
replace
you
Hardy
board
with
lap
siding.
So
that's
what
this
board
has
really
experienced.
C
A
G
A
C
Two
comments:
I
didn't
print
out
I'm,
trying
not
trying
to
save
trees
because
I
print
a
lot
all
the
time
for
you
guys,
I
did
send
you
an
email.
There
is
a
Pinellas
County
preservation
summit.
This
is
number
six
they've
actually
basically
be
saved.
The
date
type
thing
I,
don't
think
that
they
actually
have
an
agenda
yet,
but
I
sent
that
to
each
one
of
you
tonight
after
five
o'clock.
So
if
you
didn't
check
your
email,
that's
why
you
probably
don't
know
any
about
anything
about
it.
C
Please
go
ahead
and
look
at
that
if
you're
interested,
obviously,
please
let
us
attend,
and
if
you
want
staff
to
company
you,
let
us
know
and
I'll
make
Lisa
available
to
go
with
you
guys,
because
she
needs
to
kind
of
get
connected
to
that.
Greater
community
outside
of
tarpon
springs
in
the
heritage
preservation
world
so
that
she
kind
of
knows
who
to
talk
to
when
she's
got
questions,
so
we
certainly
want
to
make
her
available
kind
of
10
some
of
these,
these
trainings
and
things
that
are
happening.
C
The
other
thing
is
I
want
to
give
a
brief,
very
brief,
update
on
the
jesse
burke
property.
That
was
the
property
that
we
approve
the
demolition
of
the
small
structure,
and
I
don't
want
to
give
you
too
many
details,
because
it
will
be
coming
back
to
you,
but
the
board
did
go
forward
and
approve
a
community
garden
on
that
site.
Now
they
have
some
other
work.
They
still
have
to
do
before.
It'll
come
back
and
I'm
not
sure
that
the
city
will
actually
be
the
applicant.
In
that
case
it
may
be
some
other
group.
C
I
just
depends
on
how
the
city
does
that,
but
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
idea
that
they
are
moving
forward
on
making
that
that
community
garden
working
through
the
issues
that
they
have
to
work
through,
so
that
was
decided
at
last,
less
Tuesday
night's
board
meeting.
So
just
so
you
know
they're
actively
working
on
that
site.
So
if
you
see
things
happen
and
like
the
building
coming
down,
that
type
of
thing
just
know,
that's
the
city
preparing
the
site
for
the
next
step,
which
is
getting
that
community
garden.
C
They
still
have
to
come
back
and
see
you
guys.
They
need
to
go
through
a
conditional-use
process
on
that
property
to
allow
the
use,
and
then
they
also
need
to
come
back
to
hv,
be
because
you
did
approve
the
demolition,
but
you
did
not
approve
a
new
use
on
that
property.
If
you
guys
remembered
so
as
a
result,
they
will
have
to
come
back
before
you,
hopefully
by
then
they
will
have
a
little
bit
better
plan
on
how
that's
going
to
lay
out.
C
So
you
guys
will
have
an
idea
of
how
that's
going
to
work,
because,
obviously
we
want
to
try
to
keep
the
historical
integrity
of
that.
Even
though
it's
gonna
be
a
garden
property.
You
know
we
want
them
to
use
the
back
alley.
We
don't
want
or
the
front
parking
on
the
street.
We
don't
want
really
a
parking
lot,
the
middle
of
of
that
property.
So
we're
going
to
want
to
utilize
you
folks
for
that
type
of
thing
in
the
design.
C
C
Okay,
okay,
and
with
that
all
that's
all
that
I
have
to
say
we
have
some
other
city
property
projects
that
will
be
coming
forward
to
you
guys
for
approval
in
probably
the
near
next
three
months
or
so.
There's
two
different
projects
and
we'll
kind
of
go
through
those
with
you
as
they
evolve
a
little
bit
more.
But
that's
all
I
have.
D
Don't
know
it
correct
me
if
this
is
possibly
not
the
right
time
or
place
to
say,
but
I
just
want
to
compliment
both.
Gentlemen
I
want
to
say
that
I
sympathize
with
what
you
were
referring
to
on
the
flooding
and
I
hope
that
you
will
find
some
type
of
resolution
for
it.
I
don't
know
what
it
is
myself,
but
hopefully
because
that's
got
to
be
very
frustrating
and
also
want
to
thank
you
for
your
openness
and
your
willingness
to
work
and
respect
the
district
that
you're
moving
into,
and
we
welcome
you.