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All
right,
so
we
have
four
members
present,
have
a
total
of
five,
so
we
do
have
a
quorum.
So
we'll
proceed
our
first
item.
A
business
is
public
comments.
This
is,
for
anything,
that's
not
on
the
agenda.
So
if
you
want
to
speak
about
something
besides
the
nomination
for
this
Cemetery,
please
come
forward
happy
to
hear
yourself.
If
you
come
to
the
dice
place,
so
we
can
record
it
and
give
us
your
name
and
address.
F
Hi
Kerri
Walsh
2
to
5
pineapple
Street
I'm
I'm
here,
because
I
want
some
more
historical
people
who
live
in
the
historic
district.
To
be
be
part
of
this,
there
was
an
incident
and
about
not
an
incident,
but
there
is
a
the
built,
the
two-story
garage,
that's
going
up.
That's
all
I
see
every
morning.
Some
guy
shows
up
once
a
week,
pounds
in
3
or
4
nails
and
goes
on
his
way.
So
all
I
see
is
concrete.
F
Every
morning
every
morning
I
have
my
coffee,
so
I
think
that
I
know
that
that
has
now
been
passed
from
this
board
to
to
another
board
at
some
point,
I
know
that
it
was
originally
approved
by
you
for
18
and
a
half
feet,
and
it's
approved
by
the
city
for
20
feet.
That's
disappointing
and
of
course
it's
not
done
so
all
I'm
looking
at
is
concrete,
but
the
reason
why
I'm
here
tonight
is
so
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
F
What
I
would
like
to
see
happen
is
that
everyone
who
lives
in
the
historic
district
get
those
little
white
postcards.
That
says
this
is
what's
happening.
We
lived
there
for
a
reason,
and
so
I
think
that
if
everyone
knew
that
there
was
a
meeting
about
and
going
on
in
their
district
in
their
neighborhood,
that
would
be
better.
Thank
you.
A
A
Just
to
correct,
even
though,
even
though
there
is
a
taller
height
allowed
in
that
zoning
district,
whatever
the
board
approved,
this
board
did
approve
it.
That
will
be
the
limitation
and
then
it's
not
gone
on
to
any
board.
It's
now
under.
In
permitting
it's
gone,
it's
gotten
a
building.
Permit
I
heard
that
a
tower
hold
on
a
second.
We
can't
take
if
you
want
to
come
back
and
come
back
to
the
dies,
but
we
need
to
pick
it
up
on
for
the
record.
A
So
at
this
point,
it's
in
the
permitting
process
and
I
would
urge
you
to,
if
you're
interested
in
what
the
status
is
and
when
they're
going
to
finish
or
if
they
passed
inspections.
All
those
kinds
of
questions
is
really
out
of
our
area
of
expertise,
but
in
the
planning
department
or
the
building
department
they'd
be
happy
to
check
for
you
on
that
as
it
stands.
But
if
you
want
to
come
back
and
say
something
yes,
ma'am
I'm,
sorry,
we
needs
to
need
to
pick
that
everything
up
on
on
tape.
E
E
The
Planning
Department
is
looking
at
the
entire
code
or
plans
to
look
at
the
entire
code
next
year,
whether
it's
possible
to
notify
everyone
in
an
historic
district.
I
would
say
that
I'm
not
sure
that
a
postcard
mailing
at
the
expense
of
the
applicant
is
is
something
that
would
be
warranted
historic
district
right.
E
These
agendas
are
posted
before
once
a
month
before
the
meetings
I'm
sure
you
were
aware
this
meeting
in
each
end,
because
it
was
posted
on
a
website,
we'll
be
happy
to
consider
it.
But
that's
something
that
notification
of
boards,
including
this
board,
is
something
we'll
be
taking
a
look
at
next
year,
but
it's
probably
unlikely
that
there'd
be
a
recommendation
to
send
postcards
district-wide,
but
that's
up
to
final
final
decisions
up
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
But
it's
just
not
not
practical.
A
He
said,
agendas
get
posted,
usually
what
about
the
Wednesday
before
our
meetings
are
usually
the
first
Monday
of
the
month,
except
like
this
month,
where
first
Monday
is
a
holiday,
so
the
Wednesday
before
that
it
gets
posted
on
the
agenda,
the
entire
agenda
packet,
not
just
the
agenda,
but
all
the
backup,
all
the
applications.
The
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting
they're
all
available
and
so
I've
encouraged.
Everybody
I've
said
this.
I
think
this
may
be
the
third
time.
A
I
mentioned
it
when
I
wasn't
on
the
board,
because
I
was
so
interested
as
as
you
are
as
everybody
is,
that
lives
in
the
district
I
would
just
make
it
a
habit.
I
actually
put
it
on
my
calendar
that
Wednesday
or
Thursday
I
add
an
O
to
my
calendar
to
check
the
website
and
see
what
was
going
on
it
was.
It
was
a
case
that
I
thought
looking
be
no
problem.
A
I
didn't
have
any
concerns
about
then
I
didn't
need
to
go
to
the
meeting,
but
something
I
was
concerned
about
and
I
would
print
the
information
and
go
to
the
agenda
I
to
the
meeting.
I
personally
think
200
feets
too
short
or
not
just
HPB,
but
planning
and
zoning
and
the
city's
other
board,
so
I
mean
when
those
amendments
come
up
they'll.
The
amendments
as
it
relates
to
the
Preservation
Board
will
come
to
this
board
and
we'll
certainly
you
know,
discuss
that.
I
mean
there's
other
ways
these
days
with
technology.
To
do
something.
A
Besides
postcards,
you
could
have
a
listserv
for
everybody
that
wants
to
get
email
notice
can
get
an
email
note
I
mean
there's
a
variety
of
inexpensive
ways
postcards
you
know.
Even
there
they're
small
they
still
postage.
It's
printing
I
mean
it's
an
effort,
whereas
a
listserv,
it's
that
same
information
out
and
it
gets
it
out
quicker
with
the
push
of
a
button.
So
now
that
doesn't
technically
meet
the
Florida
Statutes
public
notice,
but
we
could
do
the
required
public
notice
one
way
and
then
other
people
that
are
interested
in
another
fashion,
so
I
mean
I'm.
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E
Thank
you.
As
we
heard
this
is
a
recommendation
for
nomination
of
the
cicada
Cemetery
located
one
thousand
five.
He
stopped
an
Avenue
on
a
National
Register
as
a
historic
place,
and
we
have
miss
Tina
peek
of
all
of
us
here
for
the
cultural
resources
department
to
do
a
brief
presentation
on
the
nomination.
G
But
for
various
reasons
we
ran
out
of
time.
Also
on
that
page
16
to
the
page
about
traditional
cultural
properties.
It
talks
about
Florida
folk
life
and
chooses
as
an
example
the
Greek
culture
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
again
on
their
timeline.
It
also
chooses
tarpon
springs
and
the
arrival
of
Greeks
to
settle
here.
So
this
is
something
that
is
of
interest
to
the
state.
G
38
include
locations
where
a
community
traditionally
carries
out
economic,
artistic
or
other
cultural
practices,
important
in
maintaining
its
historical
identity,
and
these
are
not
for
a
traditional
cultural
property.
It
is
not
something
that's
just
in
a
path
in
the
past,
but
has
to
be
continuing
into
the
present.
So
this
is
on
the
basis
of
culture
and
ongoing
culture,
not
on
not
simply
on
historical
significance,
although
that
is
also
important,
but
it
has
to
be
continuing
into
the
present.
G
So,
what's
more
nominating
the
National
Register
has
also
made
it
known
that
they
want
more
traditional
cultural
property
nomination.
Currently,
there
are
only
about
seven
properties
on
the
National
Register
that
were
nominated
as
traditional
cultural
properties.
Greektown
was
the
first
district
in
the
country
that
was
nominated
as
such
and
is
considered
a
national
model.
There
I
believe,
is
only
one
other
cemetery
in
the
country
that
has
been
nominated
as
a
traditional
cultural
property,
so
I
just
want
to
and
again
as
I
mentioned.
G
This
is
really
part
of
the
whole
cultural
complex
of
the
Greektown
area,
because
it's
related
to
things
that
go
on
in
the
church,
which
is
part
of
the
Greek
town
area
to
the
residential
area
and
so
forth.
We
were
going
to
do
it
as
I
said,
as
a
non-contiguous
property,
but
due
to
some
time
limits
that
the
shippo
had
at
the
time
she
was
about
to
retire.
We
decided
to
just
go
ahead
with
the
nomination
of
the
of
the
central
district
itself,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
finishing
touch.
G
G
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
this
very
well,
but
some
of
the
markers
that
are
in
the
cemetery.
Actually
many
of
the
markers
have
some
distinctive
characteristics,
and
one
of
one
of
the
characteristics
is
the
use
of
symbols
for
the
sponge
industry
on
the
markers
and
I'm,
not
including
all
of
them,
by
a
long
stretch.
In
fact,
patricia
has
all
of
the
photos
which
you
can
show
around.
I
have
100
some
photos,
but
there
are
many.
G
G
You
also
can't
scan
not
see
that
well,
but
it's
a
picture
of
a
man
sitting
in
front
of
the
Clovis
in
the
sponge
exchange.
The
Clovis
are
the
places
the
sort
of
cells
they
used
to
hold
the
sponges
before
they
were
auctioned
off
within
the
sponge
exchange,
and
it
was
important
enough
in
his
life
to
have
a
picture
on
his
gravestone
about
that.
G
Here's
some
other
kinds
of
monuments
that
reflect
different
other
different
cultural
elements.
There
are
many
markers,
such
as
the
one
on
the
upper
left
that
have
Greek
columns
on
them.
The
marker
on
the
in
the
upper
middle
is
what's
called
a
candle
house,
which
is,
which
is
a
kind
of
thing,
that's
very
frequent
on
markers,
not
only
insuk
aadya,
but
all
over
greece,
where
you
have
a
special
little
house
and
we'll
see
some
more
modern
ones.
G
The
marker
on
the
right
is
a
Byzantine
cross
that
has
the
sort
of
truffle
oil
on
on
all
of
the
ends
of
the
cross
and
you'll
frequently
see
that
throughout
the
cemetery
on
Greek
graves,
sometimes
on
well
on
many
graves.
Actually,
you
have
recognition
of
where
the
person
came
from
the
gravestone
on
the
lower
left.
Ashley
has
a
map
of
the
island
from
from
which
he
came
and
and
with
the
places
of
birth
of
the
man
and
the
woman
on
it.
G
That's
the
island
of
rhodes
and
in
the
bottom
center
you'll
see
a
woman
perform
performing
a
ritual
over
the
grave
with
incense
here's,
some
more
Byzantine
crosses
as
you'll
see
on
the
graves
and
the
one
on
the
upper
left
again
very
hard
to
see,
but
the
grave
toward
the
right-hand
side
actually
has
a
candle
holder.
Now
these
are
not
exclusive
to
Greek
graves,
but
most
Greek
graves,
especially
modern
ones.
Have
these
kinds
of
holders,
because
again
you're
supposed
to
keep
the
candle
lit
the
grave
next
to
it
has
an
older
kind.
G
That's
that's
hung
from
a
metal
hook.
There
are
also,
of
course,
many
graves
that
have
Greek
flags
and
a
variety
of
other
paraphernalia
there's
also
an
anchor
attached
by
rope
to
that
Byzantine
cross
wheel.
In
addition
to
people
involved
in
the
sponge
industry.
There
is
an
interesting
group
of
graves
that
pertain
to
Greek
music.
Some
of
the
very
prominent
Greek
musicians
in
the
country
eventually
came
to
live
in
Tarpon
Springs,
either
as
a
winter
home
at
our
retirement
home
or
lived
here
forever.
G
G
A
book
on
Greek,
music
in
America
and
I
was
trying
to
find
out
what
her
official
name
was
and
where
she
was
buried,
and
that
day
I
happened
to
go
to
SiC
Adia
graveyard,
because
there
was
no
sign
of
that
and
just
came
across
the
grave
by
accident.
I
knew
it
was
her.
It
turns
out.
She
had
been
married
a
third
time
that
nobody
knew
about
and
she's
under
an
entirely
different
name
but
she's
there.
G
She
was
one
of
the
first
important
of
Greek
female
vocalists
in
this
country,
Spiros
Cornelius,
who
has
a
bouzouki
on
his
grave
upper
right,
George
suppose
again,
bouzouki
on
his
grave
left.
This
guy
down
here,
takis
de
metrio,
has
a
has
a
violin
on
his
grave.
So
just
gives
you
a
very
small
sample
of
some
of
the
distinctive
graves
and
I
didn't
point
out,
but
there
was
incense
on
some
of
the
graves.
That's
another
feature
and.
F
G
So
on
so
another
interesting
aspect
of
this
that
I
found
out
while
doing
the
research
is
at
least
43%
of
the
graves
in
the
graveyard-
are
our
burials
of
people
of
Greek
heritage.
Probably
more
I
only
came
up
with
that
number
based
on
what
were
discernibly
Greek
names
or
people,
I
knew
whose
names
had
been
changed
through
the
immigration
process
like
there
was
a
whole
Peterson
family
dating
back
from
the
early
20th
century,
who
are
actually
Greek.
G
In
fact,
his
grave
there,
you
know,
has
on
the
grave
that
he
was
the
man
who
invented
the
propeller
guard,
which
was
important
for
sponge
boats
and
personnel
at
sake'.
Dia
graveyard
tell
me
that
at
this
point
the
majority
of
incoming
burials
are
of
Greek
residents
at
urban
Springs.
So
are
there
any
questions?
I,
don't
know.
If
you
have,
you
had
a
chance
to
read
the
nomination.
C
G
This
pertains
to
the
lawn,
the
lawn
cemetery
area
in
which
it
was
repeated
to
me
a
couple
times
by
cemetery
staff
that
people
had
complained
because,
according
to
the
church,
you
are
not
supposed
to
across
lying
down.
It's
a
boat
is
supposed
to
be
upright
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
about
that,
but
in
the
I
do
know
that
they
mentioned
in
the
the
new
extension
that
they're
planning
you
know
there.
There
are
now
aware
that
this
is
a
problem
you
know,
and
they
will
accommodate
that
in
the
future.
A
G
Was
originally
going
to
be
a
part
of
the
same
application,
we
were
somewhat
hurried
to
to
finish
that
up,
because
the
ship
Oh
Barbara
Matic,
was
getting
ready
to
retire
and,
and
she
had
been
because
that
district
nomination
was
the
first
of
its
kind
in
the
country.
We
were
working
a
lot
together
to
get
the
right
kind
of
language,
and
also
in
conjunction
with
the
National
Register
people
who
deal
with
traditional
cultural
properties.
So
we
wanted
to
get
it
in.
While
Barbara
was
still
the
ship
oh
and
was
and
had
been
involved
in
the
process.
A
A
A
But
I,
just
in
my
time
in
Tarpon,
which,
admittedly
it's
not
forever
I
lived
here,
17
years
or
so
I've
been
impressed
by
the
town
acting
and
reflecting
its
diversity,
both
Anglos.
If
you
want
to
call
that
whites,
blacks
and
people
of
Greek
descent
or
Greeks
that
are
old
Greeks
and
retain
their
citizenship,
that's
person
and
there's
many
examples
of
this
I.
Don't
think
I
need
a
bore.
Anybody
with
it,
the
one
that
really
struck
me
and
continues
to
strike
me
every
single
years,
when
the
Historical
Society
does
their
remembrance
T.
A
They
have
traditionally
ever
since
they
started
it.
They've,
honored,
three
families,
a
wife,
family,
a
black
family
and
a
Greek
thing
and
I.
Just
I
love
the
symbolism
of
that,
because
it's
so
telling
as
to
the
diversity
in
this
town
and
it
equalizes
that
all
of
those
groups,
even
though
the
numbers
are
different
and
then
the
percentages
change.
You
know
you
could
look
at
it
any
decade.
It's
gonna
be
different
as
to
how
many
are
white,
black
or
Greek.
It
doesn't
really
matter.
It's
the
it's.
A
The
melting
pot
of
those
three
cultures
I
think
that
is
really
important
and
then
there's
in
the
black
culture
there's
also
the
black
group
folks
from
Bahamas,
and
you
mean
there's,
there's
a
whole
subset
that
too
so
I'm
not
trying
to
minimize
that
I'm
so
struck
by
the
fact
that
for
59
years,
according
to
your
report,
the
women's
at
the
time
it
was
the
women's
town
Improvement
Association.
Now
it's
the
women's
club
started
the
cemetery
and
managed
the
cemetery
until
the
city
took
it
over
I
mean
that's
pretty
unusual.
A
For
a
woman's
group,
I
mean
that
group
in
Tarpon
was
pretty
significant
in
terms
of
their
civic
contribution,
how
many
of
which
are
still
alive
today
and
then
I
know
from
being
out
there
and
going
out
there
for
various
events
that
governor
Sanford
is
buried
there.
Who
was
distance,
representative
critical,
important
issue
in
this
part
of
Florida
as
the
distant
purchase
and
how
that
happened.
You
know
came
to
be,
and
you
have
Civil
War
soldiers.
You
have
the
founders
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs.
A
You
have
all
those
folks,
and
yet
this
nomination
doesn't
recognize
any
of
that,
and
I
really
have
a
concern
about
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do
about
traditional
property,
but
I
think
that
to
not
recognize
all
of
Tarpon
Springs
since
all
of
purple.
Springs
representatives
are
all
of
the
different
cultures
and
different
folks
and
families
and
pioneers
and.
A
G
What
is
most
distinctive
about
our
cemetery
is
the
unusual
and
more
so
than
any
other
cemetery
in
this
country,
the
large
percentage
of
Greek
burials
there
and
the
continuing
you
know
and
the
continuing
culture
that
goes
on.
So
it's
not
that
we
are
that
it's
not
that
I
am
trying
to
disrespect
any
other
group,
but
this
is
what
makes
it
the
most
distinctive
and
therefore,
what
would
be
most
likely
to
get
it
on
the
National
Register.
Once
it's
on
the
National
Register
must
almost
people
are
going
to
know.
Is
that
it's
on
the
National
Register?
G
A
F
A
F
F
F
G
A
I
I
do
not
I
cannot
support
the
application.
I,
don't
think
that
it's
right
to
leave
out
significant
portions
of
our
community
and
significant
people
that
are
buried
there
in
significant
events
that
are
associated
with
town,
not
least
of
which
the
ones
that
I
mentioned
the
management
by
a
woman's
organization
which
I
found
really
interesting,
the
staffer,
the
distant
connection,
the
Civil
War
soldiers,
the
founders
of
the
city
and
members
whose
families
black
white
angry
are
all
buried
there.
So
I
I
cannot
support
an
application
that
focuses
solely
on
one
group.
I
have
a
question.
A
A
In
the
Historical
Society
at
least,
they
have
been
doing
I,
don't
know
if
they're
still
doing
it
they
use
for
years.
They
did
an
annual
tour
at
the
cemetery
and
really
interesting
events
and
they
had
people
family
members
impersonate.
You
know
one
of
their
family
members
that
was
buried
there
and
so
you've
just
learned
a
huge
amount
about
the
history,
I
hope
I.
Think
I'm,
hoping
they're
still
doing
that
I'm,
not
sure,
but
it
is
I
mean
there
are
those
of
events
and
others
that.
G
A
G
And
yes,
you
can
once
it's
on
the
National
Register.
Frankly,
not
very
many
people
go
and
read
the
whole
document.
Once
it's
up
there.
There
will
simply
be
a
sign
that
says
this
property
is
on
the
National
Register
and
you
can
promote
it
any
way
you
want,
and
we've
discussed
this
with
the
cemetery
personnel
and
again
they're
in
favor
of
it.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
E
E
E
We
came
out
eleventh
on
the
state
list
that
will
be
part
of
the
proposed
department
of
state
budget
that
will
go
to
the
legislature
and
we
will
know
once
the
governor
signs
the
the
budget,
whether
we
got
the
remaining
thirty
one,
thirty
two
thousand
whatever
that
comes
out
to
its
it's,
some
pretty
assured
that
we
will
get
it.
The
state
asks
for
a
recurring
1.5
million
every
year.
In
this
they
always
ask
for
the
full
amount.
E
This
time
this
year,
the
full
amount
of
all
the
recommended
projects
is
2.2
million,
but
we're
with
a
nut
first,
four
hundred
thousand.
So
we
should
be
able
to
get
it.
And
if
we
do
we'll
execute
a
grant
agreement
in
july
2019
and
we'll
have
to
finish
the
project
by
the
following
July
4,
well,
June
30.
If
the
state's
fiscal
year
of
2020
so
I
hopefully
can
we
can,
you
know
pretty
pretty
assured
of
funding
but
we'll
let
you
know
next
spring
for
sure.
A
A
A
Did
I
suggest
that
when
we
have
light
agendas
tonight
was
we
only
had
one
case,
for
example,
that
maybe
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
process,
how
we're
going
to
what
we
were
expecting
that
consultant
to
do,
because
clearly
we
we
all
know
that
there's
a
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
ways
that
I'm
so
good
right.
This
thing
they
could
just
sit
in
their
office
and
writing
design
guidelines
and
dump
us
on
us
at
the
end
and
I.