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E
Thank
you.
This
is
a
quadrilateral
proceeding
where
the
heritage
preservation
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity.
At
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
causational
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
E
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates,
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
establishing
the
code
of
ordinances
and
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates,
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
warrantses
and
the
boards
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
E
F
Yes,
as
mentioned,
this
is
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
approval
to
add
a
front
porch
to
an
existing
single-family
residence
located
at
405
west
lemon
street.
This
architectural
style
is
minimal
traditional.
This
is
residences
of
wood
frame
construction,
it's
located
in
the
r-60
zoning
district,
residential
urban
future
land-use
district.
F
This
was
continued
from
your
last
meeting
and
in
the
interim,
the
applicant
submitted
additional
information,
and
so
this
this
staff
report
has
been
revised
from
the
one
that
you
had
at
your
last
meeting.
The
applicant
also
requested
and
received
from
city
staff
a
list
of
other
addresses
for
minimal
other
minimal
traditional
style
residence
residences.
I
did
that
just
via
a
search
of
master
site
file
for
that
type,
so
I'm
assuming
that
I
got
them
all
that
are
in
on
the
list.
F
I
went
ahead
and
included
that
same
information
for
the
board
and
the
pictures,
some
pictures
that
were
pulled
off
of
google
street
view,
so
you
can,
you
can
take
those
for
what
they
are,
but
that
is
the
list
of
addresses
that
the
applicant
received
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
Design
review
guidelines
manual
does
not
include
standards
for
the
minimal
traditional
architectural
style
and
going
through
the
review
criteria.
F
The
height
is
proposed
to
align
pretty
much
with
the
current
roof
line
of
the
front
of
the
structure
surrounding
structures
are
also
once
one
story:
structures
with
either
covered
stairs
or
landings
at
the
main
entrance.
So
in
general,
the
proposal
of
a
porch
or
an
enhanced
landing
is
not
out
of
character
with
the
with
structures
in
the
neighborhood.
F
F
As
far
as
item
2,
the
porch
does
not
propose
to
cover
or
alter
existing
features
on
the
facade,
the
building's
facade,
however,
it
will,
it
does
add
kind
of
a
framing
of
those
features,
and
it
is,
it
is
a
10
foot,
deep
porch,
so
so
there
would
be
presumably
some
shading
of
those
features,
so
it
may
tend
to
diminish
those
features.
So
it's
something
that
that
should
probably
be
looked
at
as
far
as
a
reduction
in
the
scale
of
the
porch
or
a
design.
F
The
porch
will
remove
or
cover
the
existing
front
steps.
The
applicant
proposes
new
brick
stairs,
which
our
staff
feels
acceptable.
As
far
as
the
material
and
the
design,
I
couldn't
quite
tell
if
the
staircase
width
matched
the
current
staircase,
and
I
would
would
suggest
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
do
that.
As
the
current
staircase
is
at
least
not
wider
than
the
entry
gable.
It
may
be
slightly
narrower.
F
F
As
far
as
the
current
dimensions
proposed
at
10
feet,
deep,
that
would
bring
the
porch
to
within
19.3
feet
of
the
front
property
line,
so
that
would
bring
it
closer
to
the
street
and
the
reduced
front
yard
in
and
of
itself
doesn't
interfere
with
the
character.
The
neighborhood
it
does
provide
greater
interaction
with
the
street.
F
F
So
it's
it's
some
kind
of
conjecture
at
this
point
as
to
how
much
the
roof
would
cover
the
facade
from
from
the
sidewalk
or
the
street,
the
porch
does.
The
setback
does
comply
with
the
r-60
zoning
district
and
as
far
as
the
roof,
the
roof
line
seems
to
be
compatible
with
the
home's
existing
side.
Gabled
roof.
F
The
features
mentioned
are
the
asymmetrical
facade
and
the
windows
set
in
pairs
and
triplicates,
but
again
the
10
foot,
depth
of
the
porch
and
the
roof
covering
may
tend
to
kind
of
diminish
these
features
with
respect
to
the
to
the
residents.
So
that's
something
that
should
be
looked
at
and
also
the
kind
of
the
front
entry
assembly.
You
know
how
that
works.
F
Actually,
the
column
supports,
I
believe
the
applicant
did
know,
would
be
of
wood,
but
the
materials
for
the
plank
decking,
the
porch
beam,
porch,
eaves
type
thing
and
the
staircase
handrail
are
unknown.
At
this
point,
we
would
need
to
to
hear
what
those
materials
are
with
respect
to
item
eight,
the
the
porch
does
enhance
the
use
of
the
structure
with
respect
to
the
occupants
in
in
relationship
to
the
street
and
the
neighborhood.
F
With
respect
to
item
nine,
we
feel
that
at
this
time
the
porch
does
not
meet
all
of
the
standards,
but
that
it
it
is
possible
to
modify
the
project
design
in
a
way
that
that
the
standards
could
be
met
again.
The
project
does
conform
with
the
r60
zoning
district
regulations
and
all
other
standards
of
the
land
development
code
and
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
F
So,
due
to
what
appears
to
be
a
significant
alteration
to
the
appearance
of
the
front
facade
of
this
contributing
structure,
staff
would
find
that
the
poor
tradition
may
not
meet
all
of
the
applicable
standards
as
outlined
in
this
report,
and
we
would
encourage
the
applicant.
I
believe
the
applicant
has
a
presentation.
F
We
would
encourage
them
to
look
at
redesign
or
modification
of
the
design.
I've
listed
some
suggestions,
but
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
board
and
and
from
the
applicant
property
owners
within
200
feet
were
notified
of
this
application
and
there
were
no
responses
received.
Are
there
any
questions.
F
J
J
J
The
manual
guidelines
are
the
ones
that
we
didn't
have
that
so
I
just
wanted.
I
did
a
lot
of
research
and
to
tell
you
truth
is
all
over
the
place
as
far
as
what
a
minimal
traditional
is,
but
the
best
information
I
got
was
from
the
georgia
department
of
resources
and
the
historic
documentary
historic
preservation
division.
J
They
did
a
research
back
in
1990.
They
ran
start
running
into
these
houses
that
didn't
match
anything.
Okay,
they're
small
houses
like
this
one.
There
was
originally
800
square
foot
minimal
decorations,
but
they
were
decorations.
You
know
of
different
styles,
though,
and
then
another
thing
they
all
seem
to
be
in
one
time
period
which
was
1935
to
around
1950..
J
So
they
were
the
loss.
They
you
know
they
go
through.
Actually
what
it
was
was
a
slide
presentation
I
ran
into.
I
never
got
the
report,
but
the
slide
presentation
was
pretty
good.
It
went
into
it
and
they
said
you
know.
Some
of
them
were
called
depression.
Air
cottages,
others
were
called
warriors
cottages
victory,
cottages,
fha
houses,
you
know
the
variety,
but
it
was
the
same
type
of
design
but
different.
J
J
That
would
outline
essentially
a
small,
economical
house,
and,
let
me
see
they
were
like
detached.
They
wanted
it
to
be
a
detached
house,
single
story,
square
rectangular.
Essentially
what
they
wanted
was
the
most
amount
of
house.
You
could
get
for
less
amount
of
money:
okay,
gabled
roof.
They
wound
up
being
very
tight.
In
other
words,
the
mass
is
very
small.
J
J
J
J
One
thing
that
this
report
really
specified
and
tied
down
was
there's
a
difference
between
architectural
style
and
architectural
type.
Okay
and
believe
me,
I
have
to
think
about
that.
One
too,
okay,
but
essentially
architectural
style
has
is,
has
two
fundamentals,
main
fundamental
one
is,
of
course,
decoration
and
the
type
of
decoration
you
have
the
location
of
it.
The
way
it
looks
on
the
house.
J
That's
one
thing,
you
know
that's
one
type
of
fundamental,
the
other
was
proportion
to
scale
and
the
mass
the
symmetry
things
like
this,
so
in
other
words,
in
other
words,
if
you
had
like
a
craftsman
house,
you
had
a
big
one,
it
should
look
like
a
craftsman
house,
it's
a
small
one.
You
know
because
of
portion
proportions
and
such
should
be
the
same.
In
fact,
that's
when
one
of
the
ones
they
talked
about
was
a
craftsman
types,
on
the
other
hand,
is
a
simple
this
floor
plan
times,
plus
height
equals
the
type.
J
Essentially
it's
a
construction
type.
Okay,
this
is
what
they
have
and
they're
looked
at
all
these
houses.
The
one
thing
that
was
familiar
or
the
same
with
everything
was
the
floor
plan.
The
way
it
was
you
know
the
way
it
was
built,
the
construction
which
was
different
than
what
they
used
to
build
before
that
they
used
to
use
a
frame,
a
balloon
structure
where
they
put
the
beams
up
or
the
the
walls
up
in
one
piece,
and
then
they
build
the
floors
in
between
something
like
this.
These
are
platforms.
J
J
J
J
So
when
you
go
to
the
review
guideline
manual,
a
branch
frame
vernacular-
you
have,
you
know
it's
a
frame
resting
on
brick
pillars
or
concrete
block
horizontally
sheathed,
and
it
gives
a
variety
of
wood
asbestos.
You
know
siding
like
this
prime.
What
was
kind
of
funny
was
a
prominent
corner
board
and
prominent
trim.
J
J
J
J
J
J
The
dormer
entry
dormer
actually
comes
out
three
foot
from
the
side
of
the
house.
Okay.
Now
this
is
a
close-up
of
the
entry
and
we're
proposing
an
entry.
Just
like
this.
Okay,
if
we
can't,
we
won't
be
able
to
move
it,
but
we're
going
to
do
it.
Just
the
same
dimensions,
the
same
thing,
except
for
having
concrete
stairs
it's
going
to
have
bricks
there.
J
J
The
way
we're
going
to
do
that
is
the
e
lower
e
we're
going
to
bring
straight
out
until
it
transits
or
cuts
the
ceiling
of
the
porch
to
let
it
be
around
a
foot
and
a
half
flat
spot
in
there
just
like
an
e
the
same
height
as
these.
So
we're
going
to
be
able
to
retain
the
corner
boards
and
the
brace
and
then
we're
going
to
essentially
put
that
on
top
of
the
roof.
The
roof
will
work
around
this
or
we
don't
know
how
it's
put
on
there.
You
know.
J
H
A
J
A
And
I
know
the
design
lines
are
deficient
in
that
as
they
are
in
most.
Unfortunately,
all
the
underrepresented
styles
are
the
ones
that
aren't
discussed
in
the
in
the
master
and
the
design
guidelines
right.
The
one
that
I'm
most
familiar
with
and
there's
only
three
in
town
is
the
english
tutor
revival,
because
I
used
to
own
one
and
there's
only
three
of
those
that
count,
but.
B
J
J
J
J
One
of
the
concerns
was
to
you
know:
you're
gonna,
be
sheltering
a
lot
of
the
inside
okay
rails,
make
a
big
difference
on
sheltering
okay,
we
go
along
wholeheartedly
into
removing
the
rails,
not
putting
them
on
that.
That
will
open
it
up
quite
a
bit
and
being
two
foot
less
we're
gonna
keep
the
same
slope
and
stuff,
so
we're
gonna
come
up
a
little
bit,
but
being
two
foot
less
will
help
out.
J
An
awful
lot
also
hesitate
going
more
than
eight
foot,
because
with
no
rails
it
really
becomes
a
you,
don't
want
to
get
it
too
small
to
where
it's
crowded
and
people
fall
off
the
son
of
a
gun.
You
know
I
would
like
to
hold
it
a
day
and
that
that
is
reasonable.
I
think
because,
like
I
say
the
entrance,
let
me
bring
the
best
this
back.
J
H
K
J
F
F
F
J
Yeah,
it
was
originally
31
feet,
okay,
that
put
us
in
a
foot
and
a
half
beyond
each
of
the
windows.
Okay,
okay,
you
can
see
there
it's
a
little
bit
beyond
really
for
it
to
look
right
you
have
to.
We
can
only
bring
it
into
the
windows,
so
that
would
bring
it
in.
I
can
bring
it
in
a
foot
and
a
half
on
either
side
to
line
it
up
with
the
windows
and
that
would
bring
it
down
to
28
foot.
K
When
it
was
originally
designed,
but
the
but
the
the
the
first
thing
when
you
look
at
the
the
site
plan,
the
the
site,
it
just
seems
as
if
the
house
was
set
on
the
lot
to
accommodate
a
board
and
the
part
of
the
minimal
traditional
thing
that
I
I
can't
quite
understand,
but
they
they
up
north
they
in
cape,
cod
and
stuff
they
had
they
had
the
roofs
were
at
a
pitch.
That
would
would
allow
for
snow
loads.
K
K
K
K
So
that
was
our
original
idea
yeah
and
that's
why
we
came
up
with
a
10
foot
and
when
I
did
when
I
did
the
elevations
the
side,
elevations
and
the
front
elevation,
it
didn't
seem
like
the
10
foot
was
going
to
and
was
going
to
cut
it
down.
But
I
I
certainly
understand
the
rationale
for
trying
to
keep
it
minimal.
J
J
K
We
can
do
so
the
there
again
on
the
the
idea
of
the
the
rail
design
that
I
have
there,
because
we
were
below
the
legal
limit,
so
we
could
put
we
didn't.
We
don't
legally
have
to
put
a
rail
yeah,
the
rail
that
I
did
design
there
was
very,
very
low.
So
it's
it's
not
the
36
inch,
it's
a
more
of
a
minimal
rail
which
is
more
in
keeping
with
the
houses
that
were
along
that
were
built
in
that
period
of
time.
K
J
K
So
so
again
talking
about
the
the
reducing
the
width
again,
the
the
where
the
the
outside
posts
are
on
either
end
that
that
that
load,
that's
that's
sitting
on
the
post
goes
up
and
it
sits
on
the
plate
of
the
house
itself.
So
so
it's
it's
better
to
have
it
in
a
safe
distance
from
the
window
itself
to
accept
the
weight
of
that
first,
as
you
understand
so
and
and
plus,
I
think,
just
aesthetically.
K
J
K
I
guess
if
I
could
just
add
that
that
I
that
I
feel
confident
that
if,
in
a
hundred
years,
some
historians
came
and
wanted
to
bring
back
the
traditional
house
that
they
would
know
that
that
that
that
porch,
although
sympathetic
to
the
design,
is
not
mocking
the
design
and
that
it
would
be
easily
detected
and
be
able
to
be
removed.
If
such,
if
the
house
makes
it
that
long,
yeah
so
from
a
historic
preservation
standpoint,
I
don't
think
we're
we're
bill's
really
proposing
anything.
That
would
be
wrong.
J
Like
you
say,
we
didn't
catch
this
until
thursday
we
haven't
had
time
doing
these
drawings,
yet
we
kind
of
felt
it
better
to
talk
forward.
Talk
to
you,
because
we
need
some
of
your
input
and
let
us
know
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
redraw
it.
Show
you
exactly
what
we're
looking
at.
It
looks
like
it's.
You
know
acceptable.
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I'll
get
out
if
I
could
also
just
talk
about
elevations
to
a
degree
and
that
it's
a
it's
a
flat,
drawing,
in
other
words
everything's
in
scale
this
way
when
you're
driving
by
on
the
street
or
walking
by
you're.
You
would
see
all
of
this
in
perspective,
so
that
gable
part
would
be
minimalized
there,
and
the
undercarriage
of
the
roof
would
be
accentuated
to
some
degree
in
your
eye.
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E
Sure
so
you
have
the
application,
as
presented
the
board
with
the
applicant
can
discuss
things
to
try
to
work
out
something
you
can
vote
on
it
tonight.
You
can
put
conditions
on
it
and
you
can
also
with
the
discussion
with
staff
and
staff.
Please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
any
of
this,
but
to
con
to
con
continue
the
discussion
and
you
could
you
could
always
continue
it
one
more
time.
F
And
his
staff
could
be
recognized
the
other.
The
other
thing
is,
I
think
that
the
applicant
was
looking
for
board
input.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
kind
of
made
a
list
of
the
items
discussed
and
we
can
go
through
that
if
you'd
like,
because
that
applicant
is,
I
think,
looking
for
for
a
specific
direction
as
possible.
F
The
other
thing
is,
I
mean
I
did
a
minor
amount
of
research,
probably
nowhere
near,
but
you
you
two
did,
but
I
I
think
the
main
message
I
got
was
the
minimal
part,
as
the
applicant
described,
was
a
deliberate
style
that
that
was
the.
That
is
what
makes
it
notable.
I
guess,
is
the
fact
that
it
was
a
very
minimal
style
designed
for
that
time
period.
F
So,
but
looking
at
the
other,
the
other
structures
in
the
city-
and
you
you
guys
mentioned
brad
called
out
a
couple
of
these
308
pineapple
street
on
page
12
of
the
staff
report-
is
an
example
of
one
that
obviously
has
a
larger
porch.
Now
that
gable
comes
all
the
way
out
to
the
front
of
the
porch,
but
the
roof
lines
are
varied.
F
Look.
I
guess
because
of
that
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
way
that
that
aspect
can
be
accomplished
by
the
porch,
it
could
be
that
you
reduce
the
porch
and
I
don't
know,
have
some
of
it
uncovered
as
a
slab
that
that
may
be
way
off,
but
there
may
be
some
other
options
there.
But
at
this
point
it's
the
pleasure.
The
board
I'd
be
glad
to
to
list
the
items
that
were
mentioned
up
to
now.
But
if
there's,
if
there's
anything
else,
okay.
I
And
I
would
also
like
to
I
just
would
feel
more
comfortable
seeing
a
possible
materials
list
and
then
we've
discussed
it.
But
we
are.
The
code
does
have
specifics
in
there
and
if
we
could
just
see
what
possible
items-
and
I
understand
that
safety
is
a
concern-
and
I
understand
all
those
factors,
but
if
we
could
like
have
a
possible
list
because
then,
if
this
material
doesn't
work,
you're
going
to
select
the
plan
b
or
okay,
we
can
do
that.
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F
Okay,
so
we
we
are
here's
the
items
I
had
reducing
the
size
of
the
porch
with
respect
to
width
depth
or
both
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
reduced
size.
The
applicant
did
con
explain
at
least
a
little
more
clarification
in
my
mind
as
to
how
the
the
entry
cable
interacts
with
the
roof.
I
believe
the
applicant
mentioned
making
the
roof
shallower.
That's
that's
one
I
didn't
quite
catch,
but
that
that.
J
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You
rip,
the
you
know,
take
the
roof
out.
You
put
the
rafters
on
top
of
the
wall
and
ask
your
support.
Okay
and
then
it's
tied
right
into
the
existing
rafters
nailed
right
in
okay.
So
that
means
like
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
higher.
Okay,
the
roof
is
not
going
to
be
right.
At
the
end,
the
top
of
the
roof
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
higher
and
it's
going
to
come
out
at
a
slight
slow.
So
it's
going
to
intersect
the
gable
as
it
comes
down
where
it
intersects.
J
J
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Let's
put
it
this
way,
what
is
it
you
exactly
want
to
see,
and
then
I
can
tell
whether
we
can
do
something
with
it
outside
of
just
general.
You
know
I
want
to
see
how
it
looks.
I'd
rather
say.
Okay,
I'm
more.
I
want
to
know
more
about
this
length.
I
want
to
know
more
about
the
width.
I
want
to
know
how
the
the
gable's
going
to
actually
look.
I
want
to
know
how
the
stairs
are.
I
need
to
know.
I
Well,
one
of
the
okay:
when
we
go
back
to
the
our
staff
report,
it's
there
are
five
items
that
were
addressed,
and
so
we
could
just
like
work
through
those
five
items.
And
yes,
we
had
a
presentation,
but
in
the
past
we
have
to
have
it
in
writing.
It's
my
understanding
or
something
that
is
going
to
be
more
concrete
than
just
our
discussion.
I
Just
for
instance,
one
of
the
items
is
a
materials
list,
it's
number
five.
So
if
we
were
to
prove
to
write
a
motion,
we
could
say
pending
a
materials
list,
for
instance,
but
then
you
might
come
back
to
with
that
materials
list
again
and
we
find
that
oh
there's
several
items
on
this,
that
we
have
to
ask
you
to
remove
or
amend,
and
then
it
would
delay
it
again
further.
I
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F
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
all
know.
I
sent
you
a
couple
of
emails
today
with
some
materials,
but
I
was
able
to
attend
the
certified
local
government
training
at
the
end
of
april.
It
was
great
and
may,
as
you
saw
in
the
emails
this
historic
preservation
month,
there
will
be
a
proclamation
at
the
board
of
commissioners
meeting
at
their
may
14th
meeting.
F
They
would
like
to
know-
and
you
guys
can
get
back
to
me
whether
any
of
you
can
attend
that
meeting
for
that
proclamation
and
the
other
thing
is
at
that
training.
The
state
staff
will
come
and
give
us
training
either
just
general
specific
topics.
That
is
something
that
we
are
entitled
to.
I
learned
this
at
the
conference
right
as
a
certified
local
government.
So
that's
really
great.
F
Maybe
once
we
get
a
full
board
or
you
know
later,
we'd
have
to
set
it
up
and
arrange
for
it,
but
it
is
at
no
cost
to
the
city
that
they
will
come
and
do
do
the
training.
So
it
could
be
that
if
you're
interested
I'll
start
looking
into
the
logistics
of
that
and
and
what
it
would
take
to
to
bring
them,
and
then
I
can
find
out,
you
know
what
topics
they
have
and
what
you'd
like
to
see.
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F
I'm
sorry
when
well
I
guess
the
budget
will
be
signed.
What
here
in
a
couple
weeks,
does
anybody
know
but
yeah
we're
we're
in
the
budget?
So
once
the
budget's
sent
once
the
governor
signs
the
budget,
the
state
will
send
us
an
agreement.
We
can't
start
before
july.
1,
that's
the
start
of
the
state
fiscal
year,
but
hopefully
we'll
be
ready
to
to
go
july
around
that
time
so
and
we
have
to
do
it
within
a
year.
So
that
will
be
something
that
that's
rewarding
might
address.