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From YouTube: Heritage Preservation Board February 4, 2019
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A
A
F
G
A
Let's
see,
we
have
a
quorum
minimum
of
three.
We
all
we
have
all
members
present,
so
we
have
a
quorum
tonight,
just
some
brief
announcements.
Well,
well,
first,
let's
go
to
public
comments.
This
is
for
anything,
that's
not
on
the
agenda,
anything
that
you'd
like
to
bring
to
our
attention.
Please
come
on
up
and
come
to
the
podium.
A
G
I
A
A
To
reviewing
the
minutes
later,
if
there
was
a
sentence
added
some
some
phrase
added
that
the
applicant
handed
out
revised
plans
at
the
meeting,
and
then
we
decided
the
changes
were
too
expensive
or
something
like
that.
Sir
I
think
that
was
why
we
decided
they
were
expensive
is
that
there
was
a
whole
new
set
of
documents
presented
that
evening.
That's
my.
A
A
C
A
Before
our
board
attorney
gives
the
quadrate
additional
announcements
where's
everything
in
I
just
wanted
to-
let
everyone
know
I
me
absolutely-
must
come
to
the
podium
to
speak
and
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
so
that
we
can
capture
all
this
on
tape.
It's
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
so
we're
required
to
record
exactly
what
happens
both
on
tape
and
then
very
specifically
in
our
minutes.
But
we
don't
want
to
add
act
too
formally.
We
want
to
give
you
all
the
time
you
need
to
present
your
application.
A
So
there's
no
real
time
limit,
which
is
facets.
You
go
through
the
application.
Clearly,
if
you
need
extra
time,
because
you
have
a
lot
going
on
in
your
application
like
some
of
the
applications
we
have
tonight,
we
want
you
to
have
the
time
to
do
that.
So,
but
again,
you've
got
to
come
to
the
podium
and
speak,
and
we
just
want
to
make
this
process
easy.
So
there
one
understands
on
the
board.
What's
going
on
with
that,
would
you
please
give
us
the
announcement
and
the
swearing-in
of
the
speaker's
base?
This.
D
Is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing?
Is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing?
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
establish
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
D
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
D
A
E
E
Briefly,
this
is
a
contributing
structure
for
55,
East
tarpon
and
a
request
for
esthetic
certificate
of
approval
to
basically
construct
a
one-story
renovation.
In
addition,
where
there
is
currently
existing
what
appeared
to
be
a
porch
on
the
rear
and
side
elevations
of
the
single-family
residence,
this
would
be
basically
renovating
and
extending
this
existing
enclosed
porch.
This
item
was
continued
from
the
words
meeting
of
November
5th
2018
and
then
again
continued
from
the
boards,
meaning
of
December
3rd
2018,
and
the
applicant
has
submitted
revised
plans
and
going
to
the
review
criteria.
E
E
Enclosure
of
the
front
porch
that
wraps
around
the
house
and
the
addition
is
more
more
of
a
porch
kind
of
appearance
and
it's
it's
more
subordinate
to
the
overall
structure
and
its
width,
sort
of
mimicked
and
the
lines
of
it
sort
of
mimic
the
the
principal
structure
I
believe
it's
somewhat
diminishes
the
1960s
rear
edition
a
little
bit
more
than
it
is
now
with
the
way
it's
designed.
So
it
does
not
really
interfere
with
the
overall
original
structure.
This
is
a
pretty
imposing
structure
and
the
addition
retains
that
feel.
E
Respect
to
item
2.
The
applicant
has
chosen
one
over
one:
double
hung:
windows,
single
pane
windows
that
are
basically
the
same
width
as
the
existing
windows,
a
little
less
height
on
that
to
accommodate
the
the
scale
or
the
addition.
This
proposal
doesn't
doesn't
include
covering
any
of
the
existing
original
windows,
as
you
saw
in
December.
A
E
E
Any
additional
requirements
would
be
added
building
permit
times,
such
as
landscaping
that
looks
like
they
can
meet
all
those
requirements.
Item
4
with
respect
to
the
roof
again,
the
Edition
is
designed
to
ensure
that
subordination
to
the
structure,
but
it
matches
that
kind
of
style
pitch
of
roof
as
much
as
possible
to
the
original
residence.
The
applicants
proposing
a
fiberglass
shingle
roof
to
match
the
existing
shingle
roof
in
color
and
dimension.
So
that
seems
consistent
with
respect
to
item
5.
E
The
proposed
addition
is
basically
integrated
into
the
existing
structure
and
it
is
secondary
in
in
mass
in
size
and
scale
it's
to
the
rear
and
east
side
of
the
structure,
and
it
is
pretty
prominently
viewed
from
Levis
Avenue,
but
the
line
and
massing
elements
will
be
consistent
and
not
impact
the
overall
district,
some
of
the
I'm
not
reading
the
entire
staff
report.
Of
course,
I'm
sure
you
all
have
gone
through
it,
but
a
couple
of
the
houses
I
looked
at.
E
With
this
addition,
as
far
as
the
architectural
features
item
7,
the
applicant
proposes
the
hardiplank
lap
siding
was
a
six
inch
exposure
painted
white
using
cedar
mill,
wood
grain
or
smooth
surface
depending
on
the
area
it's
used
in
again,
this
is
a
visible
area,
but
the
scaled
down
size
of
this
addition
to
staff
actually
makes
this.
This
proposal
work
as
a
kind
of
support,
subordinate,
separate
feature
of
the
building
or
function
the
applicant
for
the
rear
entrance
proposes
wood-frame
deck
landing
concrete
steps
with
the
terracotta
tile.
E
Coverage
on
the
walkways
that
are
in
the
rear
yard.
Now
the
applicant
also
proposes
the
brick
piers
for
a
foundational
support
and
a
picture
frame
lattice
in
between.
So
there
are
some
brick
elements
carried
into
this
and
with
the
the
kind
of
geometry
of
that
lattice,
it
seems
to
be
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
E
If
you
remember,
the
main
structure
looks
like
I:
don't
know
if
there's
a
crawlspace
under
there,
but
it's
solid
brick
all
the
way
to
the
ground
and
then
that
porch
addition
on
the
front
had
the
perforated
brick
around
that
foundation
for
number.
Eight,
the
overall
mass
and
positioning
of
the
addition
is
designed
to
match
the
architectural
style
of
that
original
structure.
It
doesn't
seem
to
interfere
with
it.
None
of
the
noted
architectural
features
are
going
to
be
interfered
with
those
noted
on
the
forum
number
nine.
E
This
proposal
does
meet
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
and
the
city's
guidelines,
and
the
proposed
addition
will
be
required
to
comply
with
the
requirements
of
the
t4a
transit
district
and
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
So
staff
is
recommending
approval.
The
request
for
renovation
of
an
addition
to
an
existing
one-story
porch
to
create
a
family
room
on
the
rear
and
side
elevations
of
this
single-family
residence,
and
this
was
properly
noticed
and
there
were
no
responses
receive.
Are
there
any
questions.
J
J
Miss
McNees
did
a
wonderful
job,
actually
kind
of
going
through
most
of
what
I
want
to
say,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
it,
so
I'll
try
not
to
go
into
too
much
detail.
We
had
seen
the
presentation
that
mr.
waters
had
done
at
the
ature
last
go-around
two
meetings
ago
and
really
very
much
concur
with
everything
you
all
were
saying
to
him
as
to
what
needed
to
happen.
So,
hopefully,
we've
covered
those
bases
for
you
and
doing
something.
This
may
be
a
little
bit
more
sympathetic
and
and
thought
through.
F
J
You're
all
familiar
with
the
with
the
site.
You
know
here
on
tarpon
Avenue
Levis
with
the
Methodist
Church
here
the
funeral
home
referred
to
Vinson,
sits
right
across
the
street
where
we're
talking
about.
Is
this
area
right
right
around
the
back
here
and
that's
highlighted
there
in
red,
as
he
said,
there's
this
existing
six,
basically
a
six-foot
wide
porch
that
was
enclosed
in
a
very
haphazard
manner
around
the
original
brick
kitchen.
That's
buried
back
behind
that.
J
So
we've
resolved
that
issue
as
well.
Here's
the
again
the
edition
starts
to
put
it
in
a
little
more
context
with
the
covered
walkway.
That's
going
to
the
back
to
the
alley
back
here
as
we
as
we
zoom
in
the
addition.
What
you
is
different,
particularly
different
from
what
you
saw
last
time
from
the
last
presentation,
is
that
to
try
to
respect
the
original
building
by
the
way
this
this
building
I
believe
was
done
by
an
architect
named
mr.
Kelly
I.
J
J
Courts
across
the
street
from
the
tennis
courts,
you
can
see
there's
a
marriage
between
the
same
architect
doing
all
of
those
very,
very
beautiful
houses,
as
we
move
around
this.
This
is
that
separation,
I,
was
talking
about
and
maintaining
the
window
to
bring
light
into
the
existing
house
and
again
a
separation
between
the
brick
and
not
to
mimic
the
brick
so
much,
we've
pulled
it
away
to
be
more
of
a
wood
sided
type
of
a
house,
but
yet
it's
all
sitting
on
brick
piers,
pretty
much
matching
those
of
the
main
house.
J
So
there's
a
kind
of
a
marriage
there
we're
creating
a
little
bit
of
a
back
porch
and
the
handrails
I'll
show
you
in
a
moment
with
a
little
more
detail.
This
is
that
side.
Unfortunately,
the
house
some
time
ago,
you
know
this
porch
was
added
and
they
or
excuse
me
filled
in
with
all
brick
and
some
you
know
glass
block
window
and
that
kind
of
a
thing:
that's
not
our
project.
Unfortunately,
that's
there,
but
you
know
so
that's
enough
brick.
This
is
actually
an
over
overuse
of
brick
anyway.
J
J
So
this
is
just
kind
of
put
you
in
context
with,
what's
there
existing
now-
and
this
is
the
North
elevation
of
what
we're
anticipating
these
are
the
the
French
doors
and
the
way
the
roof
wraps
around
that
upper
porch
from
the
original.
What
seems
to
be
the
original
building?
It's
also
from
the
from
lovest
and
all
it
starts
as
Smith's
McNeese
talked
about
it.
It
hides
its
hide
somewhat
this
flat
roof
edition
and
the
sixth
piece.
J
J
You
know
one
over
top
of
the
other.
The
the
doors
will
be
fairly
just
simple:
full
full
light
doors,
and
the
stairs
will
be
somewhat
of
what
you
see
on
the
on
the
right.
Although
whoops
excuse
me,
these
are
not
part
of
the
project.
It's
really
just
showing
the
tile
and
the
way
the
steps
will
work
as
masonry
as
opposed
to
frame
the
handrails,
which
are
going
to
be
simple,
lower.
J
Excuse
me
they're,
going
to
use
the
the
lowers
more
typical
of
historic
handrails,
as
opposed
to
having
high
handrails
and
but
code
wise.
So
that's
the
base
part
here,
but
code
wise.
We
will
be
doing
a
top
rail
on
it
to
meet
code
so
that
it's
high
enough,
but
it'll
bring
the
feel
of
a
more
from
a
lower
rail
with
simple
pickets,
deciding
I
think
it
was
put
in
the
packet
originally
that
it
was
rough
that
we're
using
smooth,
siding,
that's
Hardy
board
and.
G
J
Sorry
I
need
to
I
should
have
put
the
yeah
I'm
doing
I'm
multitasking
too
much
I
apologize,
maybe
some
what,
if
some
of
what
I'm
saying,
isn't
necessarily
all
that
important,
but
anyway
I
apologize,
see
if
we
can
do
better
here,
except
that
sounds
a
little
better.
Okay,
thanks
I'll,
try
to
make
sure
I
do
that
and
then
there's
soffits
and
all
are
the
same.
It's
all
smooth
now
we're
just
keeping
the
same
Sophos
from
around
the
house
existing
house.
The
foundation,
as
we
said,
is
going
to
be
brick
very
similar
to
this
brick.
J
A
F
A
A
J
A
A
A
A
A
E
This
is
request
to
replace
nine
existing
wood
windows
with
vinyl
windows
and
replaced
the
front
door.
This
was
continued
from
your
January
14
2019
meeting
and
eight
of
the
windows
are
on
the
outside
of
the
structure.
The
ninth
is
between
the
shed
and
the
structure
main
structure
in
the
shed
addition.
E
You
requested
additional
information,
mainly
on
the
condition
of
the
windows,
and
you
also
requested
that
the
applicant
consider
proposing
a
front
door
not
constructed
of
steel
material.
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
detailed
report
on
the
condition
of
the
existing
windows
and
a
product
sheet
for
a
proposed
wood
door
of
essentially
the
same
style
as
the
proposed
steel
door.
So
respect
to
the
review
criteria.
Item
basically
item
2
again,
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
replacement
of
all
of
the
existing
wood
windows
on
the
structure
with
the
double-hung
sash
one
over
one
vinyl
windows.
E
The
window
in
door
replacements
are
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
building's
architectural
style
and
they're.
Also
consistent
with
the
architectural
elements
of
the
buildings
in
the
surrounding
area,
fenestration
will
not
change.
The
applicant
has
proposed
size
for
size
replacement.
The
applicant
has
not
proposed
to
disturb
the
the
surrounding
tremens
Hills,
so
those
would
be
remain
the
same,
and
the
applicant
has
submitted
extensive
documentation
of
the
advance
deterioration
and
a
severely
compromised
function
of
the
existing
windows.
E
So
staff
feels
that
that
this
some
documentation
shows
that
repairs
would
go
beyond
cosmetics
and
and
would
have
to
probably
firt
for
most
or
all
would
have
to
be
a
complete
rebuild
of
some
of
these
windows
to
make
them
fit
the
openings,
the
resultant
style
and
character.
The
building
will
remain
the
same
upon
completion
of
the
project
and
the
windows
replicate
the
original
windows
in
composition,
design
and
size,
and
the
proposed
doors
and
acceptable
replacement
design
and
of
the
same
size
as
the
current
door.
E
Again,
all
the
replacements
will
retain
their
existing
surrounds
and
will
not
detract
from
the
building.
So
staff
feels
that
the
renovations
are
consistent
with
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
and
the
city's
design
guidelines,
and
that
the
project
will
meet
the
land
of
element
code
and
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
application
to
replace
nine
windows
and
one
door
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
yep,
the
applicant
is
responsible
for
obtaining
the
required
permits
and
all
of
the
existing
trim.
Sills
and
thresholds
should
be
retained
and
not
disturb
I.
E
M
Hi
I'm
Kelly
Flannery
of
230
Hibiscus
Street
I'm,
just
gonna,
read
off
my
paper.
I
wrote
a
bunch
of
stuff
down,
so
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
tonight
about
my
application.
Again.
As
you've
stated
already,
I
have
applied
for
a
new
front
door
and
nine
new
windows
for
my
house.
Vinyl
windows,
the
current
front
door
is
extremely
old,
has
12
little
rather
large,
actual
glass
panels
on
it
and
the
panels
are
extremely
thin.
M
It
would
be
very
easy
to
break
into
last
month
my
application
had
a
steel
door
with
a
half
moon.
On
top
of
it,
I
was
able
to
find
a
very
similar
door.
It's
basically
identical
only
it's
wood,
but
it's
of
the
same
design,
but
it's
a
little
bit
more
expensive
and
the
longevity
of
it
obviously
is
not
quite
as
great
as
a
steel
door.
I've
chosen
this
door
because
I
really
want
to
work
with
you
guys
to
keep
the
historic
nature
of
the
house.
M
M
The
seller
refused
to
fix
the
windows
because
he
knew
of
the
expense
and
the
timely
how
long
it
takes,
and
all
of
that
so
I
settled
on
the
house
back
in
October,
but
I
haven't
fully
moved
in
to
the
house
yet
because
of
the
windows
as
I'm
sure
you
can
see
from
the
pictures
that
I
submitted
and
the
summaries
of
the
pictures
that
I
sent
out
to
you
guys.
There
are
many
issues
with
the
windows
in
their
current
state.
None
of
the
windows
open
and
function
in
their
intended
manner
because
they
are
screwed
shut.
M
All
of
the
windows
have
pulley
systems
that
are
either
non
functioning
or
strings
are
missing.
The
windows
are
written
with
termite
damage,
there's
gaps
between
sashes
and
there's
gaps.
You
can
actually
see
light
through
the
frame
of
the
window.
One
window
has
a
bullet
hole
in
it,
one
leaks
water
when
it
rains
a
few
weeks
ago.
There
was
a
cold
front
that
came
through
and
it
was
very,
very
windy
and
it
sounded
like
because
of
the
rain
and
the
wind
it
sounded
like
someone
was
trying
to
shimmy
up
the
windows
there
rattling.
M
You
can
just
hear
things
are
happening
at
the
Greek
buildings
right
around
there,
and
so
as
for
the
safety
of
the
windows,
they're,
not
safe
in
any
way,
if
there
was
a
fire
or
an
emergency
situation,
I'd
have
to
smash
the
glass
to
get
out
because
they
don't
actually
open
in
their
current
state,
and
so
I'd
have
to
try
not
to
cut
myself
as
I'm
going
out
I'm,
there's
so
much
damage
to
the
windows
that
they
really
cannot
be
repaired.
I
respectfully
requests
they
approved
my
application
for
safe
new
windows.
I
Hello
just
short
thing:
I'm
Loretta,
Flannery,
I'm,
her
mom
and
I'm
from
502
Windrush
Bay
were
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I
hope
you
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
the
pictures
that
she
provided,
because
just
her
saying
what
the
damage
is
to
them
doesn't
really
give
it
justice
I
mean
you
look
at
those
pictures.
Do
you
think
yeah
they're,
really
really
bad
and
so
I
don't
know.
I
If
any
of
you
have
any
kids,
but
if
you
did,
you
wouldn't
want
them
living
in
a
house
like
this,
you
wouldn't
become
I'm,
not
comfortable
with
her
living
there.
She
hasn't
really
fully
moved
in
yet
because
she's
just
doesn't
feel
safe
there
at
this
time.
So
I
would
just
would
appreciate
that
you
would
give
Kelly's
request
your
approval
and
that
so
she
could
move
in
and
feel
safe
and
and
start
enjoying
her
new
home
or
first
time
home.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
Oh
I'll
start
I'm
I
think
you
made
a
big
improvement
on
the
door
and
the
best
way
to
make
sure
that
the
door
stays
there
and
stays
in
place
and
it
is
safe
is
to
paint
it
it's
pretty
simple.
That's
all
you
really
have
to
do
is
paint
it
and
keep
it
I'm
in
good
working
order
and
it'll
work
fine
for
years
and
years
and
years
to
come
and
y'all
I
think
you'll
be
happy
with
it.
I
think
the
style
is
nice.
A
I
have
some
hesitation
about
the
wholesale
replacement
of
the
windows
I'm,
just
one
board
member
I've
looked
at
it.
I,
like
some
of
the
other
board.
Members
have
experience
in
renovating
hands-on,
renovating
in
couple
different
houses
and
some
commercial
buildings
I
see
that
there
is
deterioration,
but
I
see
that
all
that
it
can
be
repaired,
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
seeing
50%-
that's
that's
just
my
opinion.
I'll
jump
in
I
mean
that
the
a
lot
of
the
work
that
I
saw
or
the
pictures
that
I
saw
is
they
need
to
be
taken
out.
A
The
pulleys
put
back
in
and
there
are
there-
are
companies
that
actually
specialize
in
doing
that.
So
it's
not
an
impossibility.
I
said
I
kind
of
looked
at
it
I'm
interested
to
see
what
the
bristol
board
thinks.
If
it's,
what
our
standard
is
and
the
guidelines
are.
First,
that
you
repair
repair
is
the
number
one
recommendation.
Then
it
says
50%
or
more,
the
windows
are
deteriorated
missing.
Then
the
wholesale
replacement
of
windows
is
permitted,
provided
they
match
the
key
design
element.
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
question
about
that.
They're,
going
in
the
same
opening.
G
I
looked
over
it
I
kept
looking
to
see
if
there
was
anyone
that
had
expertise
in
historical
restoration
and
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
package.
That
would
tell
me
that
there's
somebody
that
could
tell
me
that
the
windows
absolutely
have
to
be
replaced
because
we've
seen
other
windows
like
this
that
were
actually
look
worse
than
the
pictures
here
and
I
looked
through
every
one
of
the
pictures
as
I
went
to
the
house
too.
G
So
I've
looked
at
all
of
it
and
I
wondered
whether
or
not
you
could
possibly
get
an
expert
in
historical
resurrect
restoration
to
say
how
much
percentage
of
that
damage
can
be.
Can
it
be
repaired?
Can
it
be
replaced?
Does
it
need
to
be
because
I'm,
not
an
expert
with
the
windows
and
doors,
especially
with
the
historical
things
and
I
know
that
as
a
homeowner
that
looks
really
bad
and
you
want
to
just
get
new
windows,
but
once
we
destroy
a
historical
building
or
window
or
doors
or
anything,
it's
gone
forever.
F
D
G
D
What
degree
it
is
and
that-
and
that
is
not
within
your
guidelines-
it
just
says-
are
deteriorated.
So
that's
something
that
the
board
is
going
to
have
to
consider,
but
I,
don't
necessarily
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
the
standard.
The
guideline
is
that
it's
50%
of
the
windows,
not
50%
of
the
window,
is
deteriorated.
It's
50%
of
the
windows
in
the
home
have
deterioration.
D
And
I
understand
that
you
need
and
that's
something
that
the
the
evidence
that
is
presented
here
tonight.
They
are
not
required
to
bring
in
an
expert
to
tell
you
that
and
I
will
tell
you
from
the
review
of
the
what
you
all
asked
for
it.
The
last
meeting
was
just
pictures
you
didn't
ask
for
them
to
go
out
and
get
an
expert.
G
D
And
and
now
and
I
do
want
to
address
that
too,
because
if
you
all
remember
at
the
last
meeting,
I
read
in
your
rules
of
procedure
in
your
guidelines,
if
you're
going
to
sit
in
judgment
and
make
a
voting
decision
at
this
meeting,
you
would
have
had
to
go
back
and
review
the
tape
from
that
meeting
because
now
you're
not
getting
all
of
the
evidence
that
is
presented
in
order
to
make
the
decision.
So
you
of
course,
can
sit
with
discussion,
but
I
think
you're
gonna
have
to
refrain
from
voting.
Okay.
D
L
L
A
A
G
E
L
H
Looked
at
the
pictures
and
I've
lived
in
a
house
with
windows
like
that
and
the
obvious
damage
to
so
many
of
the
windows,
whether
it's
40
50,
60
percent.
It
looks
like
it
involves
all
of
the
windows
and
the
termite
evidence
on
the
windowsills
shows
that
whatever
is
there
has
got
to
be
rotted
on
the
inside.
So
I
don't
see
how
that
can
be
repaired
because
there's
so
much
termite
evidence.
Oh.
L
H
A
Wanna
remind
the
board
that
the
cost
is
really
not
an
issue
here.
That's
not
one
of
our
criteria
to
this
to
discuss
it
so
I
just
want
to
and
we're
not
we're,
not
comparing
cost
of
new
windows
versus
repairing
windows.
That's
really
not,
but
again,
what's
relevant
is
whether
or
not
the
board
thinks
there
are
50%
of
the
windows
so
of
the
nine.
Are
there
five
of
them
that
are
deteriorated
or
missing?
Clearly,
there's
there's
none.
So
it's
that's
the
standard
that
that
we
are
looking
at
that
in
our
previous
decisions
that
we've
made
so.
C
C
C
F
A
H
H
A
A
E
E
The
roof
form
is
also
preserved,
and
so
the
proposed
replacement
roof
does
meet
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
and
the
city's
guidelines.
It
can
form
it
would
conform
to
the
land
development
code.
A
roof
permit
would
be
needing
needed
and
it
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive.
Plan
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
application
to
replace
the
existing
combination
of
roofing
materials,
with
composition,
shingles
on
the
primary
contributing
structure
of
the
property.
The
applicant
is
responsible
for
obtaining
all
permits,
and
this
was
properly
publicly
noticed
and
there
were
no
responses
received
to
think
notice.
K
Hello,
I'm,
Alex,
Beckel
of
1-2-3,
Reed,
Street
I,
think
mrs.
McNeese
pretty
much
covered
everything
that
I
was
gonna,
say
I
think
maybe
the
most
important
thing
is.
Is
that
all
the
other
structures
which
are
contributing
on
the
street
all
have
you
know
a
composite
roof
similar
and
and
the
fact
that
there's
two
different
materials
being
used,
we're
just
kind
of
coming
into
compliance
by
you
know
going
with
a
single
material
on,
but
on
both
floors
it.
In
my
opinion,
it's
always
looked
really
bad.
A
A
H
A
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
I
thought
it
might
be
useful
to
go
ahead
and
finish
that
one
case
that
we're
now
in
our
last
case
and
I
know
it's
a
lot
going
on
in
this
application
and
we're
excited
to
see
the
changes
in
the
improvement.
So,
let's
talk
about
application,
18,
F,
166
or
310
East,
Tarpon,
Avenue
exterior
renovations
to
a
contributing
structure.
This
was
a
continued
case.
E
E
So
this
is
a
certificate
of
approval,
basically
for
exterior
enter
patients,
an
existing
contributing
property
at
310,
East,
tarpon
Avenue,
and
this
is
to
make
improvements
that
will
allow
an
upgrade
at
the
current
restaurant
use,
to
expand
the
outdoor
customer
seating
and
to
provide
that
improve
service,
circulation
and
customer
circulation
as
well,
and
the
applicant
has
submitted
an
extensive
summary
narrative
and
planned
views
and
architectural
renderings.
That's
it
basically
I'm
going
to
hit
the
highlights
of
what
this
includes
on
the
octagonal
Bay
tower
on
the
north
side
of
the
front
side.
E
Those
are
on,
like
the
northwest
corner
the
front
porch
and
installing
a
new
ramp
with
handrails
in
that
area,
installing
a
new
front
patio
area
with
several
elements,
including
brick,
piers
and
Horniman
metal,
fencing
sections
and
installing
piers
metal
gate
and
ornamental
fencing
at
the
front
entrance
to
the
property.
The
narrative
does
include
additional
detail.
I
didn't
list
here
that,
if
they
came
in
alone,
would
be
staff
approval,
but
those
are
all
part
of
this
so
where
they
talk
about
repairing
siding
where
they
need
to
the
lighting.
E
E
This
street
has
has
contributing
structures
that
have
those
front
porch
doors
and
windows,
and
this
proposal
also
provides
a
consistency
there.
As
far
as
the
replacement,
railing
and
balusters,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
remove
those
tall,
spindle
type
balusters
and
replace
it
with
a
with
a
picket
type
feature
which
seems
to
emphasize
the
attractive
architecture
of
this
building.
The
applicant
does
propose
a
ramp
for
disabled
access
at
the
front.
There
is
an
extensive
explanation
of
that
in
the
narrative
and
I'm
sure
the
applicant
will
explain.
E
The
design
guidelines
prohibit
the
placement
of
modern
equipment
on
the
front
building
facade
that
the
guidelines
further
talk
about
disabled
access,
with
respect
to
visual
compatibility
and
the
ability
to
remove
such
an
item
in
the
future
staff
feels
that
the
item
could
probably
be
pretty
much
be
easily
removed
without
disturbing
the
architecture
later,
but
did
not
see
evidence
sufficient
to
overcome
the
visual
compatibility
standard.
So
that's
where
we
are
net
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
and,
of
course,
the
existing
handicap
ramp,
that
is
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
boramae.
E
They
may
propose
to
leave
that
there's
parking
behind
the
building
and
that's
how
those
that
access
has
provided
to
the
parking
that
west
side
of
the
building
faces
a
vacant
lot.
That
lot
is
up
for
sale.
It's
reasonable
to
assume
that
that
building
vote
would
not
be
as
visible
at
some
time
in
the
future.
So
that
might
be
something
you
would
want
to
keep
in
mind.
E
But
the
applicants
kind
of
carrying
that
storefront
theme
or
opening
kind
of
theme
to
the
west
side
of
the
building
again
using
Windows,
to
match
trying
to
put
windows
in
the
front
and
on
the
west
side
that
will
match
the
original
windows,
whereas
the
current
window
on
the
west
side
does
not
match
those
windows.
The
current
non
original
window
on
the
west
side,
the
railings,
the
Pickett,
simple,
picket
railings-
would
be
carried
over
to
that
west
side
as
well.
E
With
respect
to
item
2,
all
that
architectural
detail
really
I
would
be
repeating
myself
if
I
went
through
most
of
that.
Just
to
add
that
the
new
walkway
in
front
yard
patio
are
proposed
to
be
of
the
running
bond
brick.
We
do
have
a
brick
street
nearby
and
we
do
have
brick
element
city,
sidewalks,
right
in
front
of
them.
The.
E
In
the
long-term
in
Avondale,
so
those
elements
seem
to
be
compatible
with
with
that
with
that
surrounding
area,
and
the
applicant
has
also
provided
photographic
examples
of
the
use
of
all
these
treatments.
The
brick
piers,
the
concrete
benches
iron
fence
elements
in
the
historic
district.
With
respect
to
item
three,
the
project
is
located
in
the
Tarpan
Avenue
Main
Street.
That's
a
t5b
transect
district
of
the
city
special
area
plan
and
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
district
guidelines
and,
of
course,
compliance
with
what
the
standards
will
be
required
with
respect
to
landscaping.
E
Staff
feels
that
this
proposal
is
consistent
with
those
that
transect
and
actually
isn't
a
spirit
of
the
vision
for
that
that
transect,
by
opening
this
front
to
the
street
tarpon
Avenue,
creating
more
of
a
relationship
between
the
building
and
the
streets
with
respect
to
item
5,
the
size
and
mass
of
the
building
itself
will
not
be
changed.
The
proposal
does
ensure
preservation
of
the
building
form
and
continues
or
increases
the
focus
on
its
prominent
features
such
as
the
front
wraparound
porch
and
the
bay
Tower.
E
A
A
A
L
J
Good
evening
again,
ed
Hoffman,
Hoffman
architects,
29
West,
Orange
Street
tarpon
springs.
This
Milford
I'll
try
extra
hard
to
help.
You
out
just
remind
me.
If
I
get
off-track,
this
house
I
think
everyone
is
very,
very
familiar
with
anybody
living
in
Tarpon
Springs
or
have
travelled
alternate
Tarpon
Avenue.
J
It
was
reworked
and
not
too
terribly
long
ago,
and
some
of
the
translations
I
think
of
what
happened
or
was
requested
in
this
meeting.
The
way
they
were
translated
to
the
building
may
not
necessarily
have
been
what
you
were
expecting
we're
trying
to
resolve
some
of
those
things
and
bring
the
building
back
into
a
stronger,
richer
character.
J
One
of
the
biggest
issues
as
we
look
at
this
building
by
the
way
Bob
ray,
is
here
from
helped
put
a
lot
of
this
together
here
from
our
office
and
Doug.
Clark
is
also
here,
the
the
owner,
the
of
the
facility
so,
and
he
can
talk
at
length
about
his
vision
of
you,
know
the
menu
and
all
the
wonderful
things
that
are
going
to
happen.
Maybe
that's
not
in
your
purview.
A
J
Right
if
you
had
dinner
there,
then
you
might
have
a
different
view,
but
it's
gonna
be
fabulous,
but
it's
really
taken
its
theme.
Kind
of
comes
out
from
his
background
in
New
Orleans
with
and
Doug
correct
me
if
I
screw
this
up-
okay,
just
but
but
in
New
Orleans
and
looking
at
the
billing
can
sit.
You
know
right
now
has
this
wonderful
cooker
that
is
part
of
the
barbecue
restaurant.
J
That's
already
there,
so
it
works
easily
around
that
too,
to
do
more
of
a
Cajun
style
than
New
Orleans
or
a
Creole
type
of
a
smokehouse,
and
so
using
that
as
a
little
bit
of
a
theme
also
considering
that
in
New
Orleans
pretty
much
every
from
what
I
understand
every
corner,
even
in
the
residential
districts,
can
become
a
restaurant
facility.
So
a
lot
of
mom-and-pop
are
using
those
corner
old
houses,
historic
houses
for
this,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
in
keeping
with
that
as
well.
J
So
we
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
they
had
added
on
these,
these
spindle
handrails.
You
know
guardrails
with
the
drink-drink
rail
right
up
next
to
it
between
that
bringing
the
Heights
up
and
becoming
quite
a
barrier
to
the
street,
then
there's
also
the
panel
here
down
low.
That
again,
there's
very
very
little
opening
very,
very
little
that
is
inviting
for
you,
the
the
turret
in
the
middle
is
quite
you
know,
one
of
the
strongest
architectural
features
and
that
my
first
concern
was
gosh
the
stair.
J
You
know
we
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
disturb
a
wonderful
stair
that
is
behind
that.
But,
as
you
go
inside
and
you
find
that
that
stairwell
this,
the
the
stair
this
there
is,
is
very,
very
marginal
in
terms
with
no
historic
value,
except
that
yes,
it's
still,
it
was
a
stair,
but
it
has
been
redone
a
reworked
or
rebuilt
in
a
way,
this,
a
very,
very
sloppy
thing.
So
so
I
don't
have
a
real
there's,
no
sadness
at
all
about
relocating
that
stair.
F
J
We'd
like
to
do
that,
as
we
look
at
the
as
we
look
at
the
existing
building.
Of
course,
this
is
a
drink
rail
there's
already
a
deck
there.
It
has
a
kind
of
a
funky
awning.
You
know
contemporary
awning
hanging
over
top
here.
The
entrance
from
the
street
side
is
way
over
on
the
side,
with
some
steps
up
here.
Handicapped
access
is
from
the
rear.
J
J
You
know
they've
been
at
it
over
the
years
and
so
there's
there's
no
transparency
to
the
building,
hardly
at
all
it
make
it
make
a
good
speakeasy
or
something,
but
it's
not
a
friendly
type
of
a
facility.
It's
not
very
attractive
in
that
way.
So
we're
trying
to
create
a
new
entry
here
and
on
sinner
using
that
centerpiece
as
the
front
door
for
the
facility
hostess
station
and
that
kind
of
thing
that
you
probably
don't
care
a
lot
about,
but
but
on
the
exterior.
We're
trying
to
bring
this
and
marry.
J
J
We
anticipate
this
patio
area,
which
has
seating
and
probably
umbrellas
in
the
in
the
summer,
probably
take
them
down
in
the
winter
when
it's
cold
and
then
having
a
possibly
water.
Maybe
if
feature
here
in
the
center,
where
we're
trying
to
to
make
this
like
to
be
an
appropriate
place
for
having
dinner
and
drinks
as
well,
outdoor
patio
or
waiting
or
whatever
so
also
on.
J
You
know,
first
Friday
events
again
trying
to
reactivate
the
street
downtown
that
people
would
come
in
off
the
street
and
be
able
to
to
use
a
facility
out
here,
and
the
patio
without
necessarily
going
in
inside
part
of
his
poem
is
gonna.
Is
his
success
is
going
to
be
a
problem
to
he's
going
to
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
waiting,
so
I
feel
comfortable
and
confident
of
that,
but
with
regard
to
that
bringing
the
the
entrance,
you
know
the
handicap.
J
Of
course
we
have
the
steps
here,
but
handicapped
entrance
on
the
west
I
mean
on
the
street
side
of
the
building.
We
feel
is
very
important
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
The
primary
reason
is
that
the
people
that
are
being
served
on
this
side
of
the
building
the
front
side,
the
street
side,
the
entry
side
should
have.
We
should
respect
them
with
a
handicap
access.
J
Currently
we
have
the
excess
around
the
back
side
and
yes,
there's
a
there
might
be
handicaps.
You
know
parking
back
there,
but
it
doesn't
address.
You
know
all
the
people
that
we're
anticipating
coming
off
the
street
here,
so
we
feel
that
you
know
having
an
access
point
on
the
front
side
of
the
building
is
important.
I'll
show
you
in
a
moment
how
we
tend
to
play
that
down.
J
J
J
As
you
can
see
here,
we'll
be
removing
this
Center
column,
it's
it's
problematic
to
have
a
split
where
you
don't
know
one
side
from
the
other,
so
we're
bringing
you
through
the
center.
The
other
thing
we're
doing
is
getting
rid
of
the
spindles
and
this
the
bar
rail
there
and
we're
also
getting
rid
of
the
some
of
the
what
what
I
would
consider
it,
the
the
home
depot
Victorian
things
that
were
added.
You
know
with
these
little
elements,
tacked
on
that
somebody
thought
were
what's
cute
somewhere
along
the
way.
J
F
J
Building
a
very
fairly
low,
very
simple,
farmhouse
kind
of
a
rail.
By
the
way.
We
are
also
looking
at
that
because
our
elevation-
we're
not
required
to
have
actually
a
guard
rail
along
this,
because
we're
less
than
30
inches
off
grade
we're
just
needing
to
do
something.
That's
safe.
However,
we
will
bring.
Bringing
the
another
rail
I'll
show
you
that
in
a
moment,
up
to
the
tabletop
Heights
will
no
longer
have
a
drink
rail.
There
it'll
be
four
tables
so
again
trying
to
get
open
it
up.
J
So
we
can
just
use
that
in
a
very
simple
way
and
very
minor,
it
could
be
very
unobtrusive
at
the
at
the
handicap,
ramp
again
spindles
that
we're
going
to
get
rid
of
here
in
trade
for
something
more
simple
again
letting
these
guys
go
for.
What's
simple
in
your
book,
you
have
you've
probably
already
seen
we
have
all
of
these
little
things
designating
what
what
we're
doing
trying
to
be
in
the
guidelines
of
of
historic
guidelines,
of
what
should
be
appropriate,
I,
don't
think
I'll
go
through.
J
You
know
all
of
those,
because
I'm
I
know
I'm
standing
here
between
you
and
maybe
dinner,
but
on
the
front
door
or
the
doors
to
facility.
This
is
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
it's
a
full
light.
What
we
want
to
do
is
find
a
historic
door.
We
don't
think
we
have
to
because
of
the
perf
rhiness
of
the
building.
We
don't
have
to
do.
You
know
the
impact
and
door
and
all
that
kind
of
so
we
don't
have
to
do
a
steel
or
fiberglass
door.
A
J
J
J
This
is
just
a
little
bit
more
of
a
close-up
view
of
the
bar
area
and
how
we're
doing
outdoor
seating
out
here
as
opposed
to
using
the
that
awning
kind
of
thing.
That's
up
there
now
the
big
sales
we're
probably
again
in
the
in
the
summer.
We
would
just
be
using
typical
umbrella
type
of
things,
with
some
color
to
make
it
attractive.
C
C
J
Inside
here
we
would
probably
use
the
typical
railing
that
we're
using
everywhere
else,
so
it's
consistent
as
if
the
handicapped
rails,
not
there.
That
makes
sense
again.
We
we
consider
this
long
and
hard,
because
you
know
the
first
instinct
is
this
gosh?
We
we
really
like
to
have
a
lot
more
green
right
here,
but
but
the
handicap
is
an
issue:
I
mean
it's
something
we
need
to
deal
with
and
and
treat
people
with
respect
and
also
in
terms
of
service.
J
J
Think
right
now,
let's
see
yeah
the
right
now.
There's
an
existing
window
here
will
end
up
reworking
that
it'll
be
coming
this,
because
this
is
one
that
we're
removing
and
it'll
become
a
window.
That
looks
more
like
that
something
a
little
more
elegant
on
this
side.
Again,
the
handrail
we're
changing
the
design.
So
it's
not
this
real
high,
this
real
high
drink
rail
with
the
dot
long
tall,
skinny
spindles.
This
is
again
the
west
side
of
the
building.
A
A
J
It
not
correct
not
currently
this
I
wish.
We
had
control
of
that
right
now,
however,
I'm
sure
to
be
able
to
to
plan
some
things
and
the
interim
I'm
sure
we
could
probably
get
some
approval
from
the
adjacent
the
owner
to
to.
Let
us
do
some
landscaping
there,
which
would,
which
would
add
to
the
to
the
building
a
great
deal.
J
Again,
right
now
we
have
this,
you
know
the
high
spindles
and
I,
don't
know
what
we're
looking
at,
but
we
want
to
take
it
from
that.
You
know
with
the,
and
you
know
those
sales
always
mentioning,
take
it
from
that
and
go
to
this
something
that
would
be
more
inviting
have
a
little
gate,
a
little
bit
of
wrought
iron
types
of
things,
the
brick
the
seating
a
little
bit
of
a
fountain
here,
we're
also
looking
at
a
light.
J
You
know
lightpost
here
with
maybe
some
very
small.
You
know
some
signage
here
we'll
have,
to
course,
certainly
work
with
the
signage
sign,
ordinance
and
a
little
bit
of
awning
up
here
to
kind
of
tie
it
all
together.
I
think
that
gives
you
a
little
sense
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
again.
This
is
a
ramp
over
as
a
Safford
house,
there's,
no,
there
aren't
any
pickets
and
all
it
was
very
pretty
simply
simply
done
this
is
you
know?
K
J
Here
and
some
you
know
some
more
landscaping
trying
to
make
this
thing
very,
inviting
and
presentable
again
a
little.
You
know
something
you
see
here
in
town
over
on
Spring
Bayou,
and
this
is
maybe
the
light
fixture.
You
know
that
we're
they
were
trying
to
use
on
that
post
out
front,
decorative
fixture
and
just
kind
of
the
relationship
of
the
the
seating
and
the
brick
and
the
little
piers
so
and
then
we're
you
know
different
studies
on
what
can
happen
in
that
Center
space.
So
with
that
hopefully
I
haven't
told
you
too
much.
H
F
A
I
think
you're
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place,
I
mean
I.
Just
don't
know.
Where
else
you
would
put
it
I
mean
you
absolutely
have
to
meet
a
DA.
We
know
that
you
know
you
cannot
allow
the
accessibility
to
be
a
rear
entrance,
or
you
know
just
a
negative
entry
to
the
property
and
I
think
you've
got
it
about
as
understated
as
you
can
get
it
and
still
come
back.
You
know.
J
A
I
think
it's
gonna
help
is
that
you've
got
in
this
picture
perspective,
drawing
it
appears
that
the
rail
on
the
street
side
as
Michelle
was
saying
the
street
side
with
a
handicap
ramp
and
the
rail
on
the
house
on
the
front
of
the
house
or
the
deck
of
the
house.
Here's
to
be
this
similar
style,
similar,
spacing
and
I,
think
that's
correct,
I
think
that
will
kind
of
Miller
eight
your
I
will
kind
of
blend
and
not
see
that
right
right.
J
C
A
A
A
E
A
J
Sign
it's
obscene,
the
sign
is,
and
one
of
those
is
well
the
center
rendering
and
then
it's
also
in
an
elevation.
So
that's
section
elevation
where
you
see
the
parked
car
in
the
street.
It
shows
you
the
the
light
fixture
with
the
sign
hanging
off
of
it
it
just
it
has
that
oval
shape.
It's
just
that
you
know
it'll
be
a
wood-carved
kind
of
a
sign.
N
Specific
lighting
that
is
pictured
those
are
relevant
to
the
actual
project
based
off
that
one
says:
French
series
so
downtown
New
Orleans
in
from
the
9th
Ward
all
the
way
up
to
Magazine,
Street
and
uptown.
They
have
specific
features
of
those
lines,
are
called
bevel
lights
on
every
Street,
Magazine
Street,
Bourbon
Street.
Those
specific
lights
are
up
and
down
the
block,
so
it's
affiliated
with
the
building
and
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
this
project.
That's
where
those
lights
come
from,
so
you,
the
bevel
of
lights,
are
from
New
Orleans
Michels.
N
F
J
D
Already
and
I'm
gonna
ask
if
y'all
are
gonna,
make
a
motion
to
be
super
specific,
since
there
was
a
lot
included
in
the
package
that
wasn't
doesn't
necessarily
either
need
to
be
approved
by
this
board
or,
like
the
sign
we've
discussed.
So
the
staff
under
staff
recommendation
staff
recommends
approval,
there's
a
pretty
good
detailed
list.
L
A
A
A
A
A
E
Just
to
thank
the
board,
it's
your
perseverance
here
coming
to
every
meeting
you're
reviewing
that's
what
makes
tarpon
springs,
I
have
our
own
local
program
and
be
able
to
to
kind
of
be
master
of
our
of
our
destiny.
With
respect
to
this
stuff.
So
I
really
appreciate
your
just
continued
ongoing
efforts
really
dude
count.
The
state
really
recognizes
that
and
thank
you
thank
you
and
I
do
have
one
other
item
under
staff.
E
Just
to
reiterate,
you
did
receive
an
email.
This
would
be
the
filing
of
an
appeal
on
your
decision
to
deny
a
garage
demolition
at
58,
Reed
Street,
that
was
application
1893.
That
decision
was
rendered
at
the
January
14th
meeting
and
that
is
going
to
be
scheduled
for
the
February
26th
Board
of
Commissioners
meeting.
D
Staff
will
be
presenting
it
based
on
because,
because
the
the
appeal
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
is
completely
it's
not
necessarily
based
on
what
was
in
this,
it
sounds
weird,
but
it's
not
necessarily
baseball
was
found
here.
It's
not
they're
not
bound
the
same
criteria
that
you
are
in
the
appeal:
it's
just
how
it's
written
in
the
code,
and
so
there
isn't
going
to
be
a
representative
from
this
board
to
state
the
position,
but
any
questions
can
be
asked.
D
A
A
Yes,
thank
you.
It
came
before
the
board
the
applicant
requested
to
build
the
new
garage.
It
was
approved
and
you'll.
Remember
that
we
had
quite
a
few
residents
nearby
residents.
Neighbors
come
several
meetings
since
then
they
were
concerned
about
it
and
it
kind
of
hit
me
the
other
day.
You
know
mother.
So
when
I
was
reading
the
code,
because
this
board
approved
it,
those
residents
could
not
appeal
that
decision.
You
can
only
appeal
like
in
the
case
where
we
denied
the
board
denied
the
demolition
of
that
garage
that
can
be
appealed
by
the
applicant.
A
A
A
D
So
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you
that
there
probably
needs
to
be
some
clarification
within
this
section
of
the
code
under
Section
B,
it
does
say,
appeals
from
any
decision
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
shall
be
made
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
so
under
Section
what
under
be
under
appeals.
So
while
that,
while
a
says.
D
Keep
going
the
last
sentence,
heals
from
any
decision
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
shall
be
made
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
now
from
a
legal
standpoint.
I
think
that
would
be
sufficient
that
if
there
was
affected
party
that
came
forward-
and
there
was
something
that
was
granted
and
they
disagreed
with
it-
that
I
think
that
that
would
be
enough
to
provide
them
with
an
avenue
for
appeal.
D
A
D
Right
but
Dizzy's,
because
this
is
section
111,
it's
all
read
together,
so
these
are
all
conjunctive,
not
necessarily
disjunctive,
unless
that
others
voice,
says
or
and
so
from
from
a
legal
statute
or
ordinance
law
construction
aspect,
these
would
all
be
read
together.
So
I
don't
but
I
also
don't
disagree
with
you
that
it
needs
to
be
clarified
because
someone
who's
not
a
lawyer
who's
reading.
D
This
is
not
going
to
necessarily
know
that
and
think,
oh
well,
you
know
I
don't
have
any
recourse
here
without
seeking
legal
counsel,
so
I
I
would
suggest
that
the
last
sentence
in
Section
B
be
moved
into
section
a
and
then
in
Section,
a
where
it
says
a
written
decision
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
to
deny
should
just
say
a
written
decision
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
with
regards
to
the
certificate
of
approval.
So
instead
of
wherever
it
says
deny
it
should
just
be
any
decision
or
the
decision.
D
D
D
Who
is
considered
an
affected
party
a
lot
of
times
for
the
purposes
of
the
record?
If
you
anyone
to
peel
a
decision
of
the
board
of
the
Heritage
spurt
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board,
then
we
sit
there
and
we
say:
okay.
Well,
you
know
we
are
gonna
grant
this
application,
but
John
Doe
over
here
doesn't
want
it.
He
came
and
stood
there
and
said:
I
absolutely
don't
want
this,
but
he
doesn't
live
in
Tarpon
Springs.
He
lives
in
Palm
Harbor
and
you
define
it's
defined
in
the
state
statutes.
D
D
So
what
I
would
state
is
that
when
we
conduct
our
meetings,
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
vigilant
if
someone's
coming
out
and
speaking
against
it.
If
they
say
their
address
and
their
address
happens
to
be
right
next
door,
you
know
I'm,
you
know.
Usually
they
come
out
and
say:
I'm
the
next-door
neighbor
of
so-and-so.
That's
perfectly
fine,
because
you're
in
there
an
affected
party,
they
are
directly
affected
by
whatever
happens
with
this
property.
But
if
they
say
you
know,
I
live
three
Street's
down.
D
You
know
now
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
prying.
Well,
how
are
you
affected
by
these
changes?
How
is
this
going
to
impact
your
property
values,
or
is
it
a
line-of-sight
issue?
Can
you
see?
Is
it
obstructing?
You
know
whatever
it
happens
to
be,
and
that'll
that'll
fall
to
me
to
be
more
vigilant
about.
A
D
D
You
know
two
streets
over
and
they're
technically,
not
an
affected
party
based
on
whatever
the
application
is
before
you,
because
it
doesn't
affect
them,
but
it
also
could
be
somebody
who's
in
you
know
two
neighborhoods
over
and
it
does
affect
them
because
it
affects
the
entire
historic
district
as
a
whole.
So
it's
just
something
that
needs
to
be
brought
up
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
I
felt
like
this
was
a
good
grounds
to
kind
of
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
It
doesn't
come
up
very
often,
but
it
may
in
the
future.
Who
knows
so.
A
D
Just
consensus
of
the
board
and
what
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
is
I'll
prepare
a
draft
and
I'll
have
Kim,
send
it
out
to
everyone
on
the
board
and
then
each
individually
do
not
hit
reply.
Oh
well,
I!
Guess
it
doesn't
matter,
it's
really
legislation,
so
you
know
you
can
just
not
to
just
to
be
cautious.
Don't
hit
reply
all.
L
D
And-
and
you
know
any
any
questions
and
then
after
I
dropped
it
and
have
Kim,
send
it
out
you
can.
You
can
always
call
me
or
email
me
directly
too,
and
we
can
discuss
it
as
well.
You
have
any
other
further
changes
or
whatnot.
We
can
circulate
that,
but
just
a
consensus
and
then
from
there
we'll
go
ahead
and
send
it
up
the
chain
to
get
it
to
to
the
board
Commission.