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Heritage
Board
Anita,
protis,
901,
Bayshore
Drive
I'm
here
to
thank
you
for
your
stand
on
the
st.
Nicholas
Church
issue.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support.
It
was
a
hard
fight.
I
was
I,
got
up,
made,
presentations,
I,
stay
within
the
law,
the
rules
and
regulations
of
Historic
Preservation
and
the
rules
and
regulations
of
the
historic
preservation
and
the
and
how
we
got
our
destination
as
a
National
Cathedral.
Sadly,
there
were
three
commissioners
that
didn't
listen.
C
They
voted
in
favor
of
the
church,
I
hope
we
don't
lose
our
historic
destination
and
I
have
spoken
to
Tallahassee
to
two
agencies
about
it
and
they
didn't
uphold
the
oath
that
they
took
for
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
that's
sad.
The
issue
is,
it
doesn't
belong
on
the
feet
of
st.
Nicholas
Cathedral
and
in
10
years
after
it's
there
they're
going
to
what
did
we
do,
but
you
did
right.
You
fought
hard
and
I
want
to
congratulate
you
on
that,
I'm.
C
Just
sorry
that
more
people
didn't
come
out
now,
they
said
well
what
happened?
They
weren't
here
to
support
me
in
my
efforts
to
stop
it.
It
got
ugly
in
here
after
the
vote.
It
got
ugly
outside,
but
that's
all
over
with,
and
it's
sad
because
we're
chipping
away
in
Tarpon
Springs
little
by
little,
our
historic
values
and
tarpon
springs,
we're
chipping
away
what
we
have
to
preserve
and
it's
sad,
as
the
minister
said,
one
Sunday
in
another
Church
that
everything's
growing
around
tarpon
and
you
expect
it
to
we
don't
own
the
property.
C
Everything
is
modernizing,
but
we
need
to
look
at
what
we've
got
in
Tarpon
Springs
and
keep
it
and
and
expand
on
it,
because,
as
all
the
hustle
and
bustle
goes
around
us,
they're
going
to
be
happy
to
come
to
tarp
and
see
some
beauty,
some
history,
and
what
we
have
here
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you.
My
prediction
is
in
20
years,
we're
not
gonna,
be
known
as
a
historic,
City
and
I
think
the
sponge
docks
will
be
gone.
The
way
it's
going
now.
Hopefully
it
won't.
C
You
have
a
hard
road
ahead
of
you
with
things
coming
up,
but
I
was
very,
very
happy
and
honored
that
y'all
stood
your
ground
that
night
and
voted
as
a
whole
against
the
project.
All
of
this
was
done
when
I
was
a
commissioner
in
the
80s
and
the
90s.
We
worked
very
hard
to
get
what
we
can
have
in
Tarpon
kept
this
historic
preservation,
and
the
attorney
did
an
excellent
job
that
night,
regardless
of
what
they
think.
C
Greek
people
do
not
own
this
town
and
they
have
to
follow
the
law
in
the
rules
like
everybody
else
and
I
was
saddened
that
they
said
that
because
I'm
a
Greek
heritage
too,
but
you
did
an
outstanding
job
and
you
listened
and
you
follow
the
law
like
you're
supposed
to
and
our
department
here
in
the
city,
for
you
did
a
great
backup,
it's
one
of
the
best
of
scene
and
I.
Thank
you
very
much
happy
new
year.
Thank
you.
D
Good
evening,
madam
chairman
and
members
of
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board,
my
name
is
Cindy
tera
panty
I'm
grateful
that
I
know
most
of
you
and
served
with
three
of
you,
I
guess
two
of
you
and
mrs.
Johnson
previously
on
this
really
important
board.
What
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
briefly
tonight
was
the
status
of
the
design
guidelines.
D
Grant
I
saw
in
your
the
last
minutes
and
I've
been
following
this,
because
it's
I
think
it's
really
important,
as
you
well
know,
that
these
design
guidelines
are
over
20
years
old,
and
your
minutes
from
December
noted
that
missus
McNeese
said
she
looked
forward
to
a
workshop
with
the
board
and
one
of
the
board
to
indicate
their
availability.
I
guess.
My
first
question
is:
have
y'all
set
a
date
for
that
yet
or
yes,.
E
We
have
I
was
saving
that
for
staff
comments,
but
we
can
talk
about
it
now
if
you'd
like
the
workshop,
is
set
for
your
next
regular
meeting
time,
that's
February
3rd,
starting
at
6:30
and
I,
will
be
sending
assuming
that
we're
all.
Okay
with
that
just
wanted
to
kind
of
kind
of
talk
to
you
a
little
about
it.
I'll
be
sending
out
an
email
in
the
morning
to
this
board
past
members
and
a
couple
other
people
who
expressed
interest
and
got
on
an
email
list,
we'll
be
producing
flyers.
E
D
You
thank
you
maybe
I
can
make
if
you
wouldn't
mind.
Mr.
chairman,
a
couple
of
comments.
I'm
about
that
and
the
process.
Clearly,
public
involvement
in
creating
these
design
guidelines
is
going
to
be
key
to
compliance.
All
of
us
who
are
property
owners
and
many
of
you
in
on
the
board
I
know
are
as
well.
D
We
want
to
know
how
those
design
guidelines
are
going
to
affect
the
plans
that
we
might
have
for
our
property
and
how
they're
going
to
affect
other
people's
property,
because
it's
all
part
of
the
whole,
because
what
happens
on
one
property
within
the
district
affects
all
of
us
in
terms
of
value
and
historical
integrity.
So
I
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
that
there's
going
to
be
a
workshop
on
February
3rd
I,
don't
know
what
other
agenda
items
you
have,
but
I
would
say:
if
you
don't
have
any
and
that's
gonna
be
the
whole
agenda.
D
D
Maybe
your
early
planning
this,
but
a
special
webpage
on
the
city's
website
that
directory
that
has
all
the
data
about
it,
because
if,
if
people
don't
get
involved,
aren't
aware
of
it
that
can't
be
involved
if
they're
not
involved,
then
they're
you're
not
going
to
have
compliance,
and
we
all
know
there's
some
pretty
serious
issues
that
need
to
be
upgraded
and
updated
in
the
guidelines.
A
couple
things
that
come
to
mind
for
me
that
we
wrestled
with
all
the
time
was
window
replacement.
How
much?
What
kind?
D
Where
on
what
side,
the
building
in
the
front,
the
back,
whatever
new
materials,
modern
materials
when
are
those
allowed?
When
are
they
appropriate?
When
aren't
they
appropriate
and
then
the
other
big
issue
that
I
think
the
design
guidelines
didn't
do
very
well
20
years
ago,
was
new
construction?
How
to
cite
a
building?
What
kinds
of
materials
are
allowed?
Can
you
use
new
materials
or
not?
What
is
a
design?
D
Is
it
supposed
to
look
exactly
like
something
else
in
Tarpon
or
it
can
be
a
new
design
personally,
I
favor,
the
latter
with
some
historical
representation,
but
I
mean
all
that
needs
to
be
fleshed
out,
because
that
section
on
new
construction
wasn't
very
detailed.
Maybe
because
no
one
thought
anyone's
going
to
build,
but
we
sure
have
seen
a
lot
of
it
in
the
historic
district
which
is
great,
and
we
want
to
continue
that.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
new
designs
are
really
effective.
D
So
I
I
appreciate
very
much
that
you're
doing
the
workshop
like
I,
said.
I
think
you
really
need
to
spread
the
word
to
to
all
the
property
owners,
and
let
them
know
about
that
and
then
I
would
also
suggest
that
when,
when
drafts
are
developed
or
sections
of
the
I,
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
organize
it.
D
But
if
sections
of
the
guidelines
are
completed
by
the
consultant
in
by
you
that
you
post
that
on
the
website,
allow
people
to
comment
because
the
more
people
are
involved,
I
think
the
better
result
you'll
have
in
the
end.
If
you
have
a
document
that,
generally
speaking,
there's
general
consensus,
not
everyone's
gonna
be
happy
with
everything,
but
if
there's
a
general
consensus
by
the
property
owners
about
how
those
design
guidelines
affect
development
in
the
district,
I
think
you'll
be
much
more
successful.
D
D
Mrs.
Johnson
asked
me
if
I
was
aware
of
any
good
resources
for
training
or
technical
information,
and
so
I
knew
of
this
group
I
just
kept
forgetting
to
print
it
out.
So
what
I'm
passing
around
is
the
page
from
the
group.
That's
called
the
National
Alliance
for
preservation
commissions
for
a
really
really
inexpensive
fee
of
$100
for
the
year
that
covers
the
entire
Commission
and
all
of
your
staff.
D
You
can
be
a
member
of
this
organization
and
I
encourage
you
to
google
it
tonight
when
you
get
home
or
tomorrow
they
have
huge
amounts
and
great
data
online
design,
guidelines,
technical
reports,
all
sorts
of
research
on
preservation,
so
just
that
alone,
I
think,
is
worth
the
price
of
admission.
They
also
post.
They
send
out
newsletters.
They
sent
out
a
quarterly
magazine
with
articles
that
are
timely
for
the
issues
that
Commission's
are
dealing
with.
So
I'd
really
encourage
you
to
get
the
city
to
I
think
they
can
buck
up.
D
F
F
3:30
for
East
Orange,
Street,
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
I
live
there
and
I
own
the
property,
and
you
probably
know
it.
As
the
Pinder
house.
I
was
inquiring
about
the
street.
Signs
that
you
that
there's
new
street
signs
on
the
other
side
of
alternate
19,
that
say
historic
and
then
the
name
of
the
street,
who
was
in
charge
of
putting
those
up.
A
E
E
A
good
question
for
them:
I
know
it's
relatively
new
program,
and
so
they
don't,
they
didn't
do
all
the
signs
at
one
time.
It
could
be
that
they're
phased
in,
but
I
can
certainly
put
you
in
touch
with
them.
Tom
function,
our
public
works
director.
I'll,
give
you
one
of
my
cards.
If
you
want
to
email
me
tomorrow,
I'll
put
you
in
touch
with
it.
F
Okay,
I'm
off
the
electronic
grid,
so
I'm
gonna
have
one
other
thing:
I'd
like
to
speak
on
the
speed
limits
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
especially
the
historic
district
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
something
you
can
help
me
with
I've
already
been
to
the
police
department,
because
they're
the
ones
that
I
guess
set
the
standards
on
how
fast
you're
gonna
be
going
and
I
just
find
that
30
miles
an
hour
in
the
historic
district
is
way
too
fast.
F
These
streets,
a
lot
of
times,
become
one-way
because
you've
got
cars
that
park
on
them,
and
people
are
just
ripping
up
and
down
these
streets
when
we
have
First
Friday
or
any
other
activities
that
close
off
the
downtown
area,
people
are
trying
to
cut
through
because
they
don't
want
to
wait
in
the
traffic
everybody's
in
a
hurry
to
get
home
they're
ripping
around
blowing
their
horns.
It's
just
it's
too
fast.
My
recommendation
was
that
it
would
be
that
we
lower
it
to
a
minimum
of
20
miles
an
hour.
F
What
I
think
is
even
more
effective
is
if
you
go
with
something
that
does
not
end
in
a
zero
or
a
five
like
19
miles
an
hour
13
miles
an
hour
21
miles
now,
because
that's
an
eye-catcher
when
you
see
that
you're
like
did,
that
just
say,
21
miles
an
hour
and
then
you're
waiting
for
the
next
sign.
So
you
can
see
it.
So
there's
no
excuse
for
anybody
to
be
going
that
fast,
Tarpon
Avenue
is
30
miles
an
hour.
F
Gross
Avenue
is
30
miles
an
hour
between
one
stop
sign
and
a
next
stop
sign
is
about
150
feet.
There's
a
30
mile,
an
hour
sign
in
the
middle
that
so
in
order
to
get
from
one
stop
sign
to
the
next
sub
Stein
and
get
up
to
30,
which
is
the
legal
limit,
their
flooring
it
and
we
have
animals.
We
have
children.
We
have
people
that
can't
park
in
front
of
their
house.
They
have
to
park
across
the
street
from
their
house.
They
get
out.
People
are
ripping
down
the
street,
and
so
I
don't
know.
F
If
there's
anything,
you
can
do
to
help
change
that
or
do
I
just
have
to
continue
to
go
to
the
police
department,
along
with
the
other
people
that
are
on
gross
Avenue
they've,
all
called
they've
all
done.
Nobody
wants
to
do
anything
about
it,
so
I
don't
know.
If
there's
any
help,
I
can
get
from
you
a
letter
email
to
the
police
department
trying
to
slow
these.
The
speed
down.
E
E
G
H
I
I'm
sure,
if
I
may,
any
person
can
nominate
anyone
on
the
board
present
or
not,
and
you
can
also
nominate
yourself
after
you
there's
a
nomination,
it'll
be
a
vote
for
that
and
then
you'll
go
to
the
vice
chair.
The
same
same
way.
I
L
I
H
A
A
G
G
A
I
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Heritage
Preservation
Board
acts
an
a
quasi
judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
bore
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances,
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
I
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
the
applicant
isin
method
criteria
established
in
a
Code
of
Ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates,
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances.
Then
the
board's
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
A
I
A
E
All
right,
this
is
a
request
to
completely
demolish
the
structure
located
at
220
East
Orange
Street.
This
is
listed
as
a
former
residence
and
warehouse
that
did
serve
as
a
sponge
warehouse.
This
is
a
frame
vernacular
structure.
It
is
contributing
to
the
local
district
and
the
property
appraiser
and
the
master
site
file
form
agree
on
the
approximate
year
built
at
1905.
The
building
was
altered
in
the
1920s,
with
the
two-story
addition
and
asbestos
siding
was
added
in
the
1950s
with
respect
to
your
criteria,
starting
on
page
2,
with
criteria
1.
E
This
building's
historic,
architectural
and
cultural
significance
are
all
tied
to
the
purpose,
which
was
a
sponge
packing
house,
which
is
a
significant
building
type
in
jarvan
Springs.
It's
a
frame
as
far
as
the
and
got
a
little
bit
brief
about
history
of
sponging
in
Tarpon.
In
the
report
there
this
as
far
as
its
some
form,
it's
a
frame
vernacular
with
a
two-story
section
added
to
the
front.
The
most
notable
distinctions
of
the
building
itself
are
the
steep
pitched
roof,
decorative
rafter
tails
and
drop
siding.
E
There
is
a
copy
if
the
Sanborn
fire
insurance
map
there
in
your
report,
showing
the
original
rectangular
rectangular
structure,
with
sponge
drying
platforms
on
the
north
and
south
side,
and
it
looks
like
the
two-story
addition
was
placed
where
the
north
spun
sharing
platform
was
with
respect
to
item
two.
The
building
is
important
in
its
direct
association
with
the
commercial
sponging
industry
in
Turpan
Springs,
and
it's
not
located
down
close
to
the
water,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
packing
houses
and
Darkman
Springs.
E
This
is
one
of
at
least
two
dozen
or
so
regular
packing
houses,
and,
if
you
read,
are
just
the
summary
in
our
historic
survey,
you'll
find
that
apparently
there
was
a
lot
of
sponge
packing
and
drying
going
on
in
the
city,
including
behind
residences.
So
you
will
get
some
of
those
noted
structures
that
used
to
be
behind
residences.
With
respect
to
item
three,
the
building
itself
is
a
fairly
simple
frame.
Vernacular
the
design
and
detail
could
be
replicated
at
almost
any
location
with
respect.
I
am
for
I've
got
a
list
of
sponge
warehouses.
E
I've
come
up
with
for
sponge
warehouses
that
are
located
within
the
national,
local
or
local
historic
district
on
this
list,
I've
been
told
anecdotally
of
a
couple
more
buildings
that
we
have.
That
then
may
have
been
sponge
warehouses
before
that
are
not
in
that
warehouse
form,
but
they
were
just
used
as
sponge
warehouses.
E
E
With
respect
to
item
five,
the
applicant
has
not
provided
information,
the
future
use
of
the
property
they
may
be
able
to
elaborate
online.
This
is
in
the
tea
for
a
transect
district
of
the
city
special
area
plan
that
transect
allows
a
wide
variety
of
residential
housing
products,
transient
residential
office
mixed-use
and
some
limited
retail
uses
with
respect
to
item
six,
whether
reasonable
measures
can
be
taken
to
save
the
building
in
your
packet.
You've
just
received
the
termite
report.
E
You
also
have
an
engineer's
report,
a
statement
from
a
contractor,
and
we
also
have
a
condemnation
of
the
building
by
the
city's
building
official,
based
on
several
of
those
three
written
opinions.
From
from
those
experts,
it
was
concluded
that
the
building
is
beyond
repair
and
there
are
no
reasonable
measures
that
can
be
taken
to
save
it.
With
respect
to
item
seven
again,
the
city's
building
official
in
the
applicants
engineering
contractor
have
all
indicated
that
rehabilitation
of
the
property
is
not
feasible
and
all
recommend
demolition
as
the
only
option.
E
The
engineer's
letter
does
outline
the
issues
with
the
basic
structural
members
of
the
building,
including
the
foundation
supporting
piers,
the
flooring
system,
walls
and
roof.
So
this
compilation
of
evidence
supports
the
conclusion
that
read
the
rehabilitation
of
the
building
is
not
economically
or
even
physically
feasible.
Staff
is
recommending
that
the
the
board
hear
all
the
evidence
this
evening,
perhaps
hear
from
any
experts
that
may
be
present
and
to
help
use
that
to
inform
your
decision
on
this
project.
E
M
My
name
is
John
Kohler,
honest,
my
wife,
Kay
and
I
live
on
1020
Peninsula
Avenue.
Both
our
family's
roots
are
deep.
In
Tarpon
Springs,
my
grandfather,
George
colleano's,
came
to
tarpon
springs
in
the
turn
of
the
20th
century.
He
was
a
sponge
boat
captain,
my
father,
Michael
J
colleano's,
was
born
here
in
1915.
M
My
wife's
family
have
deep
roots
here
as
well.
Her
grandfather,
Everett
white,
owned
a
jewelry
store
and
also
operated
the
first
and
only
airport
in
Tarpon
Springs.
Her
paternal
grandfather,
John
Cortez,
has
worked
in
sponge
industry.
Her
entire
his
entire
life
Kay
and
I
operate
an
accounting
office
on
41
north
ring
that
we
have
owned
owned
that
building
since
January
of
2000.
M
So
sponge
business
runs
through
my
veins.
Okay,
we
purchased
the
land
in
the
structure
behind
our
office
on
March,
16,
2004
I
was
approached
I,
believe
it
was
in
2006
I.
Think
Anita
protis
actually
gave
me
the
referral
but
Edie
Haden
of
Tarpon
Springs
Police
Department.
During
the
time
that
our
city
manager
was
chief
of
police,
contacted
me
about
demolishing
the
building,
the
city
approached
me
to
demolish
the
building
officer.
Haden
was
implementing
the
use
of
state
grant
money
to
demolish
dilapidated
buildings
in
town.
M
I
was
on
a
waiting
list
to
have
my
building
raised,
but
the
funds
dried
up
after
2008
when
the
economy
down
before
my
turn
came
up.
I
was
actually
the
next
in
line
to
have
the
building
demolished
by
with
the
state
grant
money
and
that's
when
the
state
grant
money
ended.
I
was
cited
by
code
enforcement
this
past
summer
for
the
condition
of
the
building
the
code
enforcement
personnel
referred
me
to
Karen
lemons
and
the
staff
at
City
Planning.
This
is
where
I
met
Pat
Metheny,
Pat
McNeese
as
well.
M
M
I
wanted
to
see
what
I
could
do
to
just
save
the
building,
but
I'd
already
done
this
before
I
already
understood
the
that
the
lack
of
feasibility
of
restoring
that
building
it's
the
first
time.
I
went
in
the
building
after
I
had
purchased
it.
My
foot
went
through
the
floorboards,
it
was
it's
all
rotted,
you
can
grab
wood
and
just
squeeze
it
with
your
hands.
The
building
you'll
see
in
the
report.
The
building
already
leans
over
I'm
surprised
that
a
hurricane
hasn't
knocked
it
down,
but
anyways.
M
So,
okay,
with
their
with
with
their
direction,
I
contracted
a
structural
engineer,
a
general
contractor
and
a
pest
control
company.
All
the
findings
are
in
your
possession.
It
is
clear
that
the
building
is
beyond
repair.
Furthermore,
during
the
last
month,
or
so,
the
city
itself
has
condemned
the
building
as
unsafe
and
a
dilapidated
structure.
M
I
was
going
to
actually
read
the
things
that
you
already
read
them
off
the
report,
but
in
conclusion,
I'm,
asking
at
the
board
grant
my
wife
and
I
the
approval
to
demolish
the
property
again,
there's
no
salvaging
it
with
any
feasible
or
economic
and
I
actually
have
our
contractor.
Who
can
come
forth
and
talk
more
in
detail?
But
if
you
have
any
questions
of
me
before
I
sit
down.
L
M
And
you
know
my
I've
always
thought
since
the
time
I
was
approached
by
the
city
and
actually
saw
the
condition
of
myself
I've,
you
know
I
own
the
property
behind
it,
I
own
the
property
on
orange
and
ring,
which
is
where
I
have
my
accounting
office
I
own,
the
220,
orange
and
I,
also
own
the
property,
that's
on
Safford
and
orange,
so
I
have
the
whole
continuous
property.
That's
the
reason.
M
I
purchased,
that
that
was
the
last
piece
that
I
bought
because
I
bought
the
lot
and
then
the
other
and
I've
often
wanted
when
it
came
up
for
sale
in
between
the
after
2008.
You
know,
first
of
the
economy
was
terrible
like
everybody
else,
whether
it's,
whether
you
ask
mr.
Coco
lacus
or
whoever's,
been
developed,
trying
to
develop
downtown.
We've
all
been
waiting
for
comps
to
come
up
right.
M
If
this
property
we're
in
if
this
property
were
in
Dunedin,
you
know
you'd
move
forward
with
building,
because
the
prices
and
the
economics
would
make
sense
Tarpons
getting
there
right,
but
between
2008
and
now
it's
there's
been.
No.
It
hasn't
been
feasible
for
me
to
do
anything
with
that
property.
But
now
I
believe
it's
it's
that
it's
time
has
come.
A
M
I
bought
it
in
late
2004,
they
contacted
me
around
like
the
first
part
of
2006,
okay,
yeah,
and
then
they
said
in
that
they
had
looked
and
said
yeah
it's.
It
needs
to
be
torn
and
I
think
before
that.
At
that
time
it
wasn't
a
contributing
structure.
It
was
in
the
historic
district,
but
the
mr
Hayden
told
me
it
was
not
a
contributing
structure
and
now
again,
I
was
next
in
line
to
have
a
torn
down
and
I
already
had
the
bids
and
everything
and
in
the
city
of
the
grants
it's
supposed
to
come.
A
L
J
L
An
important
part
of
the
Greek
heritage
of
this
town
Dodecanese
has
lots
of
t-shirts,
lots
of
everything
but
actual
buildings
and
artifacts
that
are
from
the
beginning
from
when
it
actually
took
place
of
the
four
you're
asking
us
to
destroy
one
of
them
and
I
feel
it's
a
very
important
part
of
the
history
of
Tarpon
I.
Understand
that.
M
K
Condemned
but
yet
you're
building
there
isn't
a
day
I
go
by
it
that
I
admire
it.
Yeah,
it's
like
that's
why
we
live
in
Tarpon.
You
know
it's
your
heritage
and
to
take
it
down,
it
seems
like
there
is
some
some
organization
that
could
save
this
building.
You
know
historically,
I
mean
look
at
you
go
around
Europe
and
you
see,
you
know,
bombed
out
and
they
don't
tear
them
down.
M
N
N
Plea
that
it
should
be
saved,
however,
the
building
was
probably
in
a
very
similar
condition
when,
when
the
folks
bought
the
property
originally
I
do
know
that
I
think
you
had
it
tented
when
you
first
bought
it,
so
they
have
taken
measures
when
they
first
purchased
the
property
and
then
to
find
that
the
building
should
have
been
demolished
and
was
on
a
list
to
be
demolished
that
caused
the
last
few
years
of
not
being
able
to
do
more
to
it.
It
was
in
deplorable
condition
before
they
purchased
it.
N
N
N
But
as
far
as
if
there
was
something
that
could
be
salvaged
out
of
this
building,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
there
isn't-
let's
say:
there's
20,000
members
framing
members
in
this
building,
I
wouldn't
say
that
there's
more
than
5%
that
doesn't
have
one
foot
that
doesn't
have
a
damaged
area
in
it.
It's
been
attacked
by
dry
woods,
Subterraneans,
the
weather,
the
elements
and
the
fact
that
it
was
not
built
to
any
Building
Code
when
it
was
originally
constructed.
N
K
Is
it
possible,
you
know
how
Christopher
still
did
his
art
his
studio,
I
think
it's
lime
street.
He
kept
the
fascia,
you
know
the
front
of
the
building
and
then
I
don't
know
I
assume,
you're
gonna
build
on
it
and
then
he
he
built
his
studio
behind.
But
the
front
of
the
building
is
the
original
yeah.
The.
N
N
But
the
original
building
itself
was
not
built
with
any
intention
of
longevity
I,
don't
think
it's
had
a
roof
I've
been
here
since
the
mid
80s
and
I've
never
seen
a
roof
on
the
building.
So
my
clients
bought
this
property
to
fulfill
their
their
quest
to
have
property
from
ring
to
Safford.
It
just
sat
in
the
center,
so
they
were
blessed
with
this
mm-hmm.
A
D
Good
evening
again,
my
name
is
Cindy.
Terra
panty
addresses
22,
North,
Spring,
Boulevard
I'm,
a
property
owner
in
the
district.
A
couple
of
comments,
I
know
you're
facing
a
really
serious
decision.
In
fact,
it's
one
of
the
most
serious
decisions
that
you
face
as
a
preservation
board
and
I
will
tell
you
that
I
was
not
on
the
board,
but
I
was
involved
with
a
demolition
of
a
contributing
structure.
D
Was
a
house
on
South
Spring
and
the
data
that
was
presented,
for
that
was
the
entire
story
and
I
say
that
with
all
due
respect
to
the
applicant,
but
by
what
I
mean
by
the
entire
story
is
what
they
have
presented.
You
with
is
the
sitch
the
status
of
the
building
today
and
the
structural
difficulties
in
the
building
today.
The
second
half
of
that
analysis
is
what
would
it
cost
to
repair
and
rehabilitate
and
renovate
that
structure
and
then
what
could
it
be
used
for
and
what
would
your
economic
return
be?
D
Since
it's
an
you
know,
it's
not
a
residential
house.
It
would
be
a
most
likely
a
income-producing,
and
so
when
you
evaluate
those
two
things,
then
you
have
a
complete
picture
of
what
is
going
on
and
whether
a
demolition
should
be
approved
or
not,
and
that's
actually
what
your
code
provides
is
the
full
story
again:
what's
the
status
of
the
building?
Okay,
now
we
know
what
difficulties
it
has
today.
What
would
it
take
to
bring
it
back
and
then
what
would
you
use
it
for
and
what
would
the
economic
return
be?
So
that's
problem.
D
D
If
there's
someone
who
could
purchase
the
building
and
move
it
or
purchase
the
property
from
them,
if
they
no
longer
want
the
property
or
you
know,
there's
got
to
be
some
other
solution.
Besides
this
irreversible
solutions,
that's
what
I
would
suggest
to
you.
There
are
CRA
grants
available
for
properties
within
the
CRA
and
I
think
this
is,
although
I
don't
didn't,
have
the
CRA
map
with
me,
so
that's
one
one
possibility
but
again
I
would
just
ask
you
all
to
take
a
step
back.
D
Take
a
breath
see
if
the
applicant
would
consider
a
60-day
hold
and,
of
course,
going
along
with
that
I
would
suggest
we
would.
You
would
want
to
ask
the
city
staff
to
also
hold
off
on
code
enforcement,
because,
if
he's
actively
working
to
find
a
buyer
or
someone
to
move
the
building-
or
you
know
some
other
solution,
then
he
shouldn't
be
penalized.
You
know
for
that
and
have
that
kun
enforcement
ticking
away.
So
that's
those
are
my
suggestions
on
what
I
think
you
ought
to
consider
again.
D
It's
it's
your
choice
as
to
how
you
do
that
I
would
hope
the
property
owner
would
be.
You
know
would
consider
that
as
an
option,
and
then
you
know
if
there's
no
reasonable
solution
that
can
be
found
in
60
days
and
then
you
know
they
provide
you
with
all
the
data
of
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
cost
it
would
take
to
do
and
what's
the
economic
return,
and
then
you
can
make
a
decision
based
on
based
on
all
the
data,
but
I
think
maybe
an
interim
looks,
maybe
a
pause
hit.
D
F
Nanci
Subic
334,
East,
Orange
Street
tarpon
springs
known
as
the
Pinder
house.
I.
Don't
think
that
the
building
should
be
taken
down.
I,
don't
believe
that
the
city
should
have
come
to
him
to
tell
him
I,
don't
believe
that
Code
Enforcement
should
have
been
involved.
The
Historic
Preservation
Committee
is
the
one
who
should
be
approached
I,
think
maybe
the
city
needs
a
little
recommend.
You
know
little
spanking
for
even
doing
that.
F
My
house
was
built
in
1910
and
because
I've
kept
it
up,
I've
got
a
metal
roof
which
I
believe
the
applicants
building
has
a
metal
roof
that
metal
roof
should
be
lasting
for
75
to
100
years,
so
it
shouldn't
even
need
to
be
replaced.
If
I
do
recall
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
someone
presented
to
the
board,
they
had
a
detached
garage
and
they
wanted
to
tear
it
down.
Because
half
one
side
of
the
building
was
not
good.
They
couldn't
find
anybody
that
could
do
it
for
them.
F
It
was
either
too
expensive,
or
somebody
didn't
want
to
do
that
small
of
a
job
and
you
guys
sort
of
gave
them
like
a
verbal
spanking
and
told
them
that
they
were
not
allowed
to
tear
that
down,
and
this
was
a
garage
in
the
back
of
someone's
house.
This
really
didn't
have
any
sort
of
historic
value.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that,
like
the
packing
house,
does
I
think
it
should
be
brought
back,
I
think
there
should
be
some
sort
of
a
sign
on
it.
F
That
says
what
the
historic
value
is
of
it
like
we
have
at
the
Stafford
house,
I
guess,
that's
it
any
questions.
C
His
wife
and
her
little
girl,
the
breasts
with
the
lace
mother,
kept
her
up
dressed
like
a
queen.
Her
husband
keeps
her
dressed
like
a
queen
I.
Remember
him
when
he
was
little
and
I.
Remember
my
grandfather,
taking
me
to
the
white
jewelry
store
when
I
became
13
and
bought
me
my
first
real
pair
of
pearls
as
a
rite
of
passage
in
southern
history,
the
protis
and
I
know
one
be
sure.
C
I
grew
up
across
the
street
from
your
house
that
I
got
aggravated
with
you
on
epiphany,
putting
the
cones
up
and
wouldn't
let
people
come
up
unless
we
want
to
park
for
$10
what
Jerry
buy
in
town
was
doing
with
the
city's
gonna
have
to
stop
and
the
Pender
house
they've
taken
good
care
of
it.
They've
done
wonders
with
it.
C
We
moved
out
and
I
wasn't
in
office.
Then,
and
the
city
came
to
me.
They
said
we
need
to
have
that
house
torn
down
because
it's
too
old
and
I
fought
it,
but
the
City
Commission
went
ahead
and
said
it
had
to
be
torn
down.
I
have
had
so
many
people
say.
Do
you
have
pictures
left
in
the
first
hospital
of
Tarpon
Springs
the
hospital
came
to
me.
They
said
Anita.
Do
you
have
anything
from
the
first
hospital
in
Tarpon
Springs?
We
can
have
historic.
I
said
no.
C
The
city
made
me
to
tear
it
down
now,
they're,
sorry
that
they
did,
but
that's
too
bad,
there's
two
new
houses
on
there
and
that's
the
way
they
wanted
to
go
with.
Tarpon
springs.
The
packing
house
was
our
Playhouse
growing
up
with
donis
children.
Mr.
segundus
bought
it
years
ago,
and
it
was
a
very
active
warehouse
because
it
was
close
to
the
train
station
I'm,
just
giving
you
a
little
bit
of
the
history
on
it
and
the
people
who
had
it
before
mr.
Cooney
is
bought.
C
It
I
don't
know
what
the
how
much
they
did
with
it,
but
I
think
there's
a
roof
on
it.
If
it
didn't
have
a
roof
with
all
the
rain
had
have
fallen
down.
If
it's
in
that
bad
condition.
I
like
what
mrs.
Tara
penny
said,
but
I
would
like
to
have
90
days,
give
him
extension
of
90
days.
I'm
gonna
go
see
the
police
chief
tomorrow
morning.
First
thing
for
code
enforcement
to
leave
him
alone
and
I'm
gonna
get
to
work
to
see.
C
If
we
can
find
a
piece
of
property
we
buy
and
how
much
it
would
cost
to
move
it,
and
let's
get
it
moved
for
historic
preservation.
If
he
doesn't
want
to
do
it,
that's
his
prerogative
but
I'd
like
to
ask
for
90
days
to
see
what
we
can
do
with
it
see.
If
we
can
find
a
piece
of
property
that
someone
will,
let
us
move
it,
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
to
move
it
go
out
and
raise
funds
for
it
and
get
it
moved.
C
May
I
tell
us,
we
can't
move
it.
It'll
fall
apart,
see
the
Safford
house
moved
around
the
bayou
I
think
that's
an
important.
Nobody
sees
it
and
we're
the
SunTrust.
Bank
is
now
that
used
to
be
our
ferry's
packing
house
and
he
went
downstairs
and
had
clips
sponges.
So
he
can
get
him
to
the
train.
Station
and
I
didn't
come
here
to
speak
out
on
this,
but
it's
something
that
we
can
consider
if
the
applicant
wants
to
do
it.
If
he
doesn't.
C
If
he's
got
plans,
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
interfere
on
anybody's
plans,
but
if
he
would
allow
us
to
have
90
days
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
preserve
it.
There's
two
on
Park
Street
and
there's
one
on:
what's
being
a
Street
off
a
canal,
there's
one
the
Arrakis
and
I
forget
where
the
other
one
is
but
they're
very
important
to
the
heritage
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
if
not
we're
chipping
away
little
by
little.
C
But
it's
up
to
the
applicant-
and
you
know,
I-
have
to
respect
his
wishes,
but
I'd
like
to
have
90
days
to
see
what
I
can
do
get
a
piece
of
property.
If
someone
will
donate
it
for
still,
we
can
raise
money
to
buy
a
piece
of
property
or
get
the
money
to
move
it.
If
we
can't,
we
can't
but
they're
good
people,
he
highly
supports
the
community
and
we're
all
proud
of
him
of
his
success.
Thank
you.
I
A
I
And
and
I
also
rum
charm
said
one
more
times
because
I
know
there's
been
some
discussion
but
continuances
and
cone
for
some
stuff.
Just
to
let
you
know,
the
applicant
has
a
right
to
have
an
answer
tonight.
If
the
applicant
chooses
and
you
grant
a
continuance,
then
he
may
also.
This
board
has
no
purview
over
code
enforcement,
so
you
cannot
bind
code
enforcement
anyway.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
for
the
applicant
and
the
board.
I
O
J
O
D
I'm
not
suggesting
that
the
city
is
the
only
actor
in
this.
There
may
be
someone
else
or
a
group
of
people
in
the
preservation
community.
Either
individuals-
or
you
know
some
may
be
the
Historic
Society
will
get
involved.
It
may
be
a
wider
group
of
people,
so
I
personally,
don't
think
you
ought
to
hang
it
all
on
the
city.
I
think
if
you
decide
to
give
some
time-
and
quite
frankly,
you
do
have
the
right
to
to
make
that
continuance.
D
That's
a
decision
that
you
have
the
authority
to
make
as
a
board
and
and
sounds
like
they
would
agree
to
that.
So
I'm
not
suggesting
that
the
city
is
the
only
option.
But
if
you,
if
you
vote
tonight,
to
approve
the
demolition,
then
what
motivation
is
there
for
anyone
to
really
come
in
and
or
motivation,
quite
frankly
for
the
applicant
to
really
work
with
someone
about
some
other
option
for
the
building?
D
If
you
just
vote
to
allow
a
continuance
for
that
time
period,
whether
it's
60
or
90
days,
then
you're
just
kind
of
putting
everything
on
hold,
he
doesn't
have
to
pay
another
fee
to
come
back
when
the
60
days
is
up
or
90
whatever
it's
continued
to
a
date.
Certain
you
come
back
on
that
date
and
he
reports
what's
been
done.
The
staff
reports,
whoever
has
been
involved
reports
and
then
you
based
on
that
data,
then
you
move
forward.
So
that's
what
I'm
suggesting
I
would
also
say.
D
Subic
spoke
of
the
code
enforcement
board,
did
staff
did
hold
put
a
hold
on
their
action
until
this
board
made
a
final
decision,
so
I'm
not
suggesting
that
you
tell
the
couldn't
for
some
court
what
to
do?
I'm,
just
saying
that
your
action
can
guide
the
code
enforcement
board,
and
hopefully
they
would
be
reasonable
in
that.
D
If
there's,
if
it's
been
in
such
bad
shape
since
2004
I,
think
60
days
is
probably
not
going
to
be
the
end
of
the
world,
I
think
that
we
could
probably
wait
for
60
days
or
so
to
kind
of
figure
it
out.
So
that's
what
I'm
suggesting
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
I
said:
I,
don't
think
it
ought
to
be
subject
to
the
city
because
it
may
be
a
combination
of
city
and
private
citizens
or
who
you,
who
knows,
we
don't
know
what
this
point
so
really
haven't,
haven't
evaluated
it.
Thank
you.
C
It's
not
up
to
the
city
and
I
didn't
say
the
city.
My
point
is,
if
you,
if
he
agrees
to
give
us
60
or
90
days,
your
emotions
should
be
that
he
would
not
have
to
pay
another
fee
to
be
heard.
It's
the
continuance,
I'm
going.
My
point
is
going
to
the
police
chief,
isn't
asking
him
for
code
enforcement
to
leave
him
alone,
and
let
us
see
what
we
can
do.
There
are
people
in
the
community
that
donate
money
for
historic
preservation.
They
may
not
want
to
do
it
with
this.
C
They
may
not
feel
it's
that
important
if
he
gives
us
a
time.
Let
us
start
tomorrow,
some
of
us
going
out
and
talking
to
the
people
who
support
us
and,
let's
see
what
we
can
do,
if
not
like
I
said.
We
support
him
in
his
efforts
of
what
he
wants
to
do.
I
didn't
come
here
to
start
a
war
with
him
or
with
the
board
here,
I'm
just
trying
to
save
what
we
have
we've
lost
so
much
and
if
they
say
in
our
investigation
that
it'll
fall
apart,
then
that's
it.
C
You
know
I
didn't
know
he
was
going
to
do
it,
but
just
give
us
a
chance
to
see
what
we
can
do.
If
he
wants
it's
his
project,
it's
his
property.
He
can
do
whatever
he
wants,
but
if
he
says
he'll
do
it,
you
have
to
set
the
record
here
that
he
not
have
to
pay
again
and
it's
a
continuance
on
his
hearing.
C
O
E
You
said
you
represent
the
applicant,
we
don't
have
an
affidavit,
let's
hear
from
the
applicant,
that
he
can
speak
for
you.
Let's
do
that
if
the
applicant
is
requesting
the
continuance,
that's
fine!
What
I'd
like
to
know
from
the
board,
then
in
that
case,
if
you're
inclined
to
grant
a
continuance,
'as.
J
E
You
as
far
as
a
fee
and
all
that,
obviously
it
continuances
to
a
date
certain
the
earliest
date
for
a
continuance
is
in
March
anyway.
I
would
like
specifics
as
to
what
you
will
be
looking
for
in
when
the
applicant
comes
back.
In
addition
to
what's
already
been
submitted,
we
do
have
just
keep
in
mind.
E
E
The
city
is
in
a
good
position
that
that
property
is
protected,
whether
whether
a
temporary
fence
might
be
needed,
or
something
like
that
to
keep
someone
from
getting
hurt
that
drives
going
and
building
or
under
the
building
or
they've
had
I
think
the
applicant
can
tell
you.
They've
had
problems
with
people
going
into
the
building
to
sleep
in
the
past
and
whatever.
So
that's
what
I'd
like
to
get
is
permission
for
him
to
speak
for
you,
which
you
should
come
up
and
give.
O
Think
nice
raises
the
next
point
that
I
was
gonna
make
and
if
I
misstated
mr.
panty
or
mr.
produce
I
apologize
that
wasn't
my
intent.
I
said
City
I
do
understand
that
there's
other
agencies
that
could
step
in
and
the
kuleana
sirs
are
fine
with
that.
But
if
you're
going
to
do
a
continuance
or
needs
to
be
some
type
of
conditions
as
I
think
what
mr.
Panisse
is
referring
to.
Mr.
O
I'm
requesting
what
I'm
requesting
is
that
this
board
vote
and
what
I'm
requesting
is
the
vote
is
that
they
vote
to
approve
the
commission
of
the
building
subject
to
a
90-day
period.
Whatever
is
agreeable
to
allow
for
there
be
a
feasibility
or
somebody
to
come
in
whether
it's
a
city
or
some
other
organization
that
says
they
can
move
it
or
locate
it
to
another
location.
O
M
A
I
E
A
O
O
I'm
saying
approve
it,
but
he
cannot
them
all
and
again,
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
within
your
purview
or
through
their
powers,
but
you'll
prove
it,
but
he
can't
demolish
it
or
tear
it
down
for
90
days,
and
that
gives
that
90-day
period
to
have
somebody
come
in
and
look
at
the
feasibility
of
potentially
moving
it
to
another
to
another
location,
and
that
would
be
part
of
the
condition
of
the
approval.
Okay,.
A
E
We
don't
have
the
building
official
here,
but
I
am
very
uncomfortable
with
that
with
you
approving
something,
with
a
condition
that
that
you
don't
get
to
do
for
90
days.
I,
don't
know
the
implications
so
that
if
you
want
more
data-
or
you
want
this
to
be
investigated
as
to
whether
something
could
be
done.
O
I
M
K
M
I
cannot
I
can't
ensure
nobody
will
insure
a
condemned
built
okay,
so
I'm
totally
liable.
Now.
Okay,
for
anything,
I
understand
that
there
are
parties.
You
know,
I
was
approached
by
mrs.
Terra,
mrs.
Terra
Penny's
husband
to
see
if
he
could
have
the
building
to
move
it,
and
that
was
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
many
months
ago
did
he
how
many
months
ago
did
he
approach
me?
Okay,
well,
obviously
so,
and
I
I
was
more
than
happy
for
him
to
explain.
M
You
know
defending
the
property
and
she
doesn't
care
more
about
this
property
than
I
do
I,
bought
it
I
own
this
property,
so
I
have
more
heart
in
this
property
and
as
I
told
you
before,
my
family
goes
way
back
in
the
sponging
business.
My
grandfather
came
here
in
1898,
okay,
so
I
I
care
deeply
for
the
sponge
industry
and
would
love
to
restore
the
building
I.
Can't
the
the
contractor
can
get
up
here
and
explain
to
you.
M
The
structure
engineer
said
you
can't
move
this
building,
it
will
collapse,
it's
already
leaning
it's
going
to
fall
over.
You
know
if,
if
I
ask-
and
this
is
a
question
I'd
like
to
ask
of
you-
know
out
of
the
city
attorney
if
you've
condemned
the
building-
and
you
don't
allow
me
to
demolish
the
building-
and
it's
infeasible
for
me
to
fix
it,
there's
no
possible
way
and
I
don't
have
five
hundred
five
hundred
thousand
would
be
cheap
to
try
to
fix
that
building.
It's
you
know
we're
talking
we're
talking
we're
talking
about
when
that
building.
M
If
I
were
to
restore
that
building
according
to
the
contractor
and
the
the
engineer,
it
would
be
a
completely
different
building
like
there's
nothing
usable
on
that
building.
Okay,
so
it
would
just
be
another.
Building
I
can
go
and
build
another
building.
That
looks
just
like
that,
but
it's
not
gonna
be
that
building
okay,
so
because
it's
impractical
and
impossible
and
infeasible
I
don't
have
that
kind
of
money.
M
So
let
me
ask
you
this
question:
if
you've,
if
you've
condemned
the
building
and
you
we
kick,
this
can
down
this
down
the
road
and
that
building
were
to
fall
on
somebody
or
to
collapse
on
somebody
that
decided
to
they
wanted
to
sneak
in
there
and
sleep.
Wouldn't
the
city
be
as
liable
as
me,
I
can't.
M
But
but
I
would
suspect
that
if
I,
if
I
went
to
Morgan
and
Morgan
they're,
gonna
they're,
not
just
suing
John
city's
got
way
deeper
pockets
than
John
and
they've
condemned
the
building
and
just
let
it
and
let
it
sit
so
I'm
like
this.
When
they
did
that
code
enforcement
on
me,
they
they
tied
my
hands.
Okay
and
now
now
we're
the
trains
rolling
down
the
track.
I
C
N
It's
a
very
hard
decision,
we're
leading
with
our
hearts.
It's
understood.
It
has
a
lot
of
sentimental
value
to
this
town,
but
I
think
you're,
asking
my
clients
to
take
a
huge
liability
in
the
fact
of
bringing
in
someone
trying
to
even
evaluate
the
building
to
be
moved.
It's
already
been
determined
by
the
city
building
director,
a
structural
engineer
and
myself
that
the
building
is
not
safe
and
there's
not
enough
structural
member
in
any
portion
of
this
building
to
be
able
to
move
it.
N
The
these
are
things
that
we
looked
at
prior
to
coming
to
the
board.
As
far
as
was
there
anything
that
could
be
salvaged,
it's
unsafe
and
bringing
people
in
to
look
at
this
building
and
try
to
determine
if
they
can
move
it.
You
might
get
someone
that
really
doesn't
have
the
experience,
but
they
have
the
heart
so
they
go
in
and
try
to
to
move
this
building
and
it
collapses,
which
it
will
do.
I
have
no
doubts
in
my
mind
that
it
will
just
disintegrate.
N
N
A
A
A
P
P
I
R
I
A
C
E
A
E
This
is
a
request
for
certificate
of
approval
to
place
porticos
over
the
north
and
northeast
entry,
ways
of
the
contributing
structure,
which
is
the
cultural
center
downtown
on
South
Pinellas
Avenue.
This
is
a
neoclassical
Revival
building,
it's
two
storey
neoclassical
Revival
built
in
1915.
It
is
on
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places
and
the
applicant
proposes
to
the
applicant.
Is
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
and
the
applicant
proposes
to
place
porticos
over
the
north
and
northeast
entrances
to
the
building's
really
the
east
side,
I'm,
just
referring
to
that
east
entrance
on
the
north
end.
E
That's
the
handicapped
entrance
on
the
back
of
the
building,
basically,
there's
an
existing
portico
over
the
south
entrance.
The
proposed
porticoes
match
the
existing
South
portico
and
they
also
match
a
particle
that
stood
over
the
north
entrance
prior
to
1947
building
addition
with
respect
to
your
criteria
under
item
1,
the
proposed
particles
are
consistent
with
the
existing
and
historic
scale
and
architecture
of
the
building,
and
this
is
a
prominent
and
unique
building
in
the
immediate
area
and
in
the
district,
and
that
is
intentional.
E
This
was
built
as
a
civic
building
and
it's
meant
to
stand
out
and
the
scale
of
the
porticoes
are
appropriate
for
this
building.
For
the
neighborhood
context,
with
respect
to
item
2,
the
width
and
height
that
the
proposed
porticos
are
consistent
with
the
architecture
of
the
building,
they
replace
our
duplicate
architecture,
architectural
features
that
were
previously
present
on
the
building
and
the
undated
historic
photo
that
the
applicant
provided
shows
that
previous
portico
on
the
north
side
and
the
applicant
proposes
to
match
that
design.
With
respect
to
item
3.
E
This
project
will
not
interfere
with
streetscapes
or
views
and
should
enhance
the
project,
that's
being
done
over
there.
With
these
added
porticoes
respective
item
4
there,
the
applicant
has
provided
a
drawing
showing
the
front
and
side
views
for
each
addition.
On
the
north
side,
the
applicant
proposes
to
extend
that
existing
entry
gable
that
already
forms
a
gable
over
and
that
would
match
what
was
previously
there
and
what's
on
the
south
side,
and
then
in
the
back,
they
would
create
a
whole
new
entry
gable.
That
would
then
dovetail
into
the
existing
gable
roof.
E
With
respect
to
item
8
again,
the
theater
edition,
if
that
was
done
in
1947,
was,
if
you
look
at
the
master
site
file
form
that
was
deemed
to
be
consistent
with
the
building's
architecture,
so
that
it
is.
That
is
a
later
added
feature
that
does
have
significance
of
its
own
right
and
as
part
of
that
project,
and
these
porticoes
are
consistent,
then,
with
the
entire
building,
including
those
past
alterations.
The
project
meets
the
Secretary's
guidelines.
E
They
conform
to
the
land
development
code
and
are
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
this
project
was
noticed
and
no
responses
were
received.
Your
recommendation,
there's
a
typo
in
it
should
read.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
this
application
requesting
to
place
two
new
porticos
on
this
contributing
building.
S
Right
now,
there's
essentially
two
covered
porches
on
the
main
entrance
fronting
along
South
Pinellas,
as
well
as
the
south
entrance,
but
there
they're
missing
their
emitted
from
the
east
side,
the
ATA
entrance
to
the
handicapped
entrance
to
the
theater,
as
well
as
the
north
side
of
the
building.
So
we
feel
that
these
porticoes
will
also
in
add
to
the
historical
character
of
the
building,
as
well
as,
at
the
same
time
enhance
and
provide
architectural
added
added
value
to
the
architect.
Components
of
the
building.
D
Cindy
Tara
pani,
22,
North,
Spring,
Boulevard
I
just
had
a
question,
perhaps
maybe
to
mr.
Makris
or
to
the
staff
on
this
well.
First
of
all,
I
think
the
city
is
doing
a
good
job
on
the
building
which
several
of
us
on
that
are
on
the
board.
Today,
we're
involved
in
making
sure
the
city
did
not
replace
all
the
windows.
D
You
all
recall
that
that
was
the
city's
original
proposal
and
they
elected
to
change
when
there
was
a
significant
opposition
to
that
I
think
it's
a
good
to
add
the
porticoes
on
the
north
and
the
east.
My
question
is
about
the
south
side,
which
is
on
lemon.
It
looks
like
when
I
drove
by
there
today
that
would
looks
kind
of
new.
Was
that
new
replaced
because
because
it
when
I
mean
it
had
an
entrance
there
before,
but
that
wood
looks
really
new.
So
on
the
south
side
on
the
lemon
side,
Soho.
I
J
T
A
H
G
G
A
E
E
This
is
really
a
material
change,
so
we're
looking
at
mostly
at
item
7
on
page
3.
The
applicant
proposes
a
change
of
material
for
the
front
Gable
of
the
residence
and
the
window
in
this
gable
was
replaced
in
approximately
1960.
The
gable
is
a
prominent
feature
framing
the
front
porch
entryway
and
the
continuance
of
the
shingle
style
for
this
frame
vernacular
is
acceptable,
as
is
the
simple
switch
to
the
more
durable
hardy
shingle
product
and
the
appearance
of
the
structure
is
and
disturbed.
P
E
P
Well,
it's
the
house
is
old
and
like
many
people
that
acquire
old
structures
that
predate
coats,
many
things,
many
people
have
tacked
on
things.
That's
the
best
way.
I
can
put
it
two
to
two
buildings,
so
in
an
attempt
to
put
it
back
to
more
original,
the
more
original
state,
which
is
a
shingle,
the
hardy
board,
is,
is
probably
the
most
practical
material
to
do
that
with
as
far
as
durability
and.
P
Were
replacements?
Yes,
there
were
long
ago
some
shingles,
some
citing
a
very
inconsistent
every
there
were
several
different
things
on
different
Gables
because
they
just
did
what
they
want.
In
fact,
I
even
have
a
little
place
where
this
imply
wood.
That
I
intend
to
put
some
shingle
up
there.
I
mean
it's
just
this
is
this:
is
the
state
of
old
old
buildings?
You
know
you,
you
just
have
to
do
the
best
you
can
and
I.
Suppose
you
have
a
slat
board.
P
G
G
P
A
E
E
What
I
guess
we
would
want
to
know
is
how
many
other
Gables
there
are
and
what
the
location
is
being
sides
are
back.
If
you
look
at
your
master
site
file
form,
it
does
look
like
the
the
material
or
at
least
the
style.
In
the
front,
Gable
was
just
a
lap,
siding
or
basic
siding
that
matched
the
house.
The
applicant
did
not
submit
a
picture,
and
I
probably
should
have
followed
up
with
that,
but
the
house
does
have
a
shingle
wood,
shingle
siding
in
that
front
gable,
at
least
at
the
current
time.
P
P
However,
everything
that
stated
is
correct,
although
the
original,
the
very
very
hard
core
original
built
was
the
individual
I
think
they
call
it
shingle,
it's
not
like
shingles
we
put
on
roofs
but
individual
boards,
so
that
was
apparent
in
small
areas.
On
parts
of
the
flag,
shingles
or
I
mean
the
five
gables.
Excuse
me.
So
it's
consistent
with
the
original
build
and
the
look,
and
you
can
see
that
same
style
scattered
throughout
the
district.
P
A
A
P
P
P
They
were
most
often
they
could
be,
but
usually
they
were
painted.
They
were
most
often
uniform,
but
didn't
have
to
be
someone
scattered,
some
more
scalloped,
some
work
I
squared
off
somewhere.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
back
to,
because
there
are
so
many
iterations
of
our
Gables
through
the
years
when
the
house
wasn't
even
under
our
possession.
It's
so.
F
F
G
H
A
E
E
What
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
to
replace
an
existing
wood
dock
with
a
new
wood
dock
and
terminal
platform
and
a
boat
lift
with
boat
lift
with
a
roof
over
it.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
typo
in
that
first
page.
The
terminal
platform
is
not
roofed.
The
boat
lift
is
the
portion.
That's
roofed
also
proposed
as
a
paver
driveway
on
the
north
east
side
of
the
property
in
the
back
of
the
property
and
placement
of
the
new,
a
new
shed
in
the
same
area
in
the
back
of
the
property.
E
With
respect
to
your
review
criteria,
this
property
is
located
on
Spring
Boulevard
and
it
has
basically
what
what
you
might
refer
to
as
a
dock
light
on
spring
Bayou
across
the
the
road.
There
is
an
existing
boat
dock,
which
is
a
simple
wood,
pier
and
that
is
being
Demong.
It's
deteriorated
and
is
being
demolished
and
it
will
be
replaced
with
a
new
pure
walkway
and
a
terminal
platform.
There
will
be
a
roofed
boat,
lift
that
would
be
installed
adjacent
to
that
platform.
E
This
area
of
spring
by
use,
occupied
by
other
docks
and
piers,
several
several
of
which
are
roofed
and
the
scale
of
the
proposed
dock,
including
the
pier
and
roof
lines,
is
consistent
with
those
in
the
general
area.
The
dock
should
blend
in
well
with
the
other
Bayou
structures.
The
new
shed
is
proposed
to
be
a
wood,
tough
shed
of
eight
feet
by
fourteen
feet.
The
approximate
height
of
the
shed
is
limited
to
8
feet
and
it
is
proposed
to
be
placed
on
an
existing
concrete
pad
behind
the
pool.
This
is
a
simple
design
of
shed.
E
The
applicant
has
provided
a
product
sheet,
it's
got
a
shallow
gable,
shingled
roof
and
on
the
entrance
door
and
I'm
sorry
single
entrance
door
in
minimal
windows.
The
siding
is
a
vertical
wood
pattern.
The
sheds
location
is
again
behind
the
pool
screen.
It
will
be
visible
from
Reed
Street,
but
it's
some
located
and
really
the
most
unobtrusive
location
put
back
kind
of
in
the
corner
as
much
as
possible.
E
The
proposed
dock
is
expected
with
respect
to
item
3
to
blend
in
with
the
other
roofed
boat.
Docks
on
the
Bayou
will
not
interfere
with
scenic
views.
At
one
time,
spring
bayou
was
occupied
by
other
several
other
boat
houses,
some
pictures
of
which
I've
supplied
for
you
there's
also
a
picture
on
the
cover
of
your
design
guidelines
of
spring
by
you
into
boat
houses
and
those
former
structures
did
were
prominent
and
to
buy
you
previously
and
did
serve
those
prominent
homes
along
Spring.
E
E
The
shed
again
is
placed
in
the
most
unobtrusive
location
possible,
being
the
southern
side
of
the
property
behind
at
the
front
of
the
the,
but
you
won't
be
able
to
see
it
from
the
front
of
the
property
and
the
scale
of
this
shed
will
not
interfere
with
scenic
views.
The
driveways
proposed
in
the
area
currently
being
used
by
the
owner
owner
for
automobile
access.
This
is
a
grass
yard,
that's
subject
to
damage
by
vehicles
and
the
driveways
needed
to
support
vehicles
and
provide
for
a
more
aesthetically
pleasing
surface.
E
E
With
respect
to
item
four
again,
Spring
Bayou
is
occupied
by
other
docks
and
piers,
several
several
of
which
are
roof
structures,
both
metal
and
shingle
and
roof.
Styles
are
either
gable
or
hip
style
roofs.
The
applicant
indicates
a
proposed
shingle
roof.
Since
this
report
was
written,
the
applicant
did
provide
drawings
which
were
added
to
your
packet,
showing
a
hip
roof
style
either
are
acceptable.
So
that's
what
they're
they're,
showing
the
shed
features
a
shallow
again
gabled
shingle
roof
and
it
does
not
interfere,
interfere
with
other
existing
structures
or
roof
lines
in
the
area.
E
The
boat
dock
is
shed
in
favor
driveway
all
are
expected
to
be
able
to
conform
to
the
land
development
code
and
are
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
this
this
application
was
noticed
and
we
did
receive
two
responses
which
you
received
this
evening.
Two
written
responses
to
those
notices
again,
there's
a
typo
in
the
staff
report
item
five
recommendation
should
read:
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
application
requesting
to
replace
a
boat
dock
and
to
place
a
new
shed
and
paver
driveway
at
this
contributing
property.
Are
there
any
questions.
V
We
purchased
the
property
in
April,
we
loved
it
so
much,
and
the
city
had
actually
had
the
previous
owners
that
were
non-compliant
and
the
dock.
It
was
a
nuisance
and
a
danger
to
the
public,
so
we
want
to
do
what
we
can
to
replace
it
and
we
do
want
to
just
add
a
very
simple
roof
line
to
it,
consistent
with
the
properties
around
us.
As
for
the
pavers,
they
would
go
very
well
with
the
the
architectural
details
of
the
streets
that
are
already
paved
and
the
shed
would
just
be
for
for
storage.
L
G
G
G
V
L
G
H
Thing
I,
just
like
to
point
out
is
of
course
you
know
currently,
there's
no,
no
docks
with
any
roofs
or
less
in
the
interior
interior
section
a
spring
Bayou,
but
originally,
and
throughout
history
there
has
been
there
has
been
actually
boat
houses.
You
know
in
that
area
and
it's
a
these
are
utilitarian
buildings
for
a
boat.
You
know
the
styles
that
these
have
don't
necessarily
reflect
on
the
style
of
the
house.
You
can't
say
you
have
a
Victorian
owed
house,
you
know,
or
you
know,
whatever
boathouse
they're,
just
both
houses.
E
W
Think
number
of
the
points
that
I
wanted
to
speak
to
have
been
raised
here
already,
which
is
the
location
of
this
house,
is
in
the
golden
Crescent
of
Spring
Bayou,
where
none
of
the
other
existing
structures
there.
They
have
a
couple
of
boat
lifts,
they're,
all
piers,
none
of
them
have
roofs
and
it's
a
long,
a
I'll
say
very
popular
walking
path
that
goes
around
spring
Bayou.
That
draws
a
lot
of
people.
W
You
know
tourists
and
locals
that
come
through
that
area,
so
you
know
allowing
a
boat
dock
with
a
roof
in
this
area
would
be
inconsistent
with
the
other
current
docks
in
the
area.
I
know
historically,
they've
had
gigantic
boat
houses,
but
you
know
that
was
back
in
the
20s
and
sort
of
what's
being
proposed.
Here
is
not
consistent
with
what
was
done
back
in
the
20s,
it's
more
of
a
modern
style.
You
know
open
on
the
sides
with
roofs
with
a
roof.
W
Sorry
that
you
know,
if
somebody
walking
along
that
path,
it's
gonna
block
a
view
from
you
know
from
the
people
walking
along
that
path.
You
know
out
into
spring
bayou
and
over
to
Craig
Park,
which
is
I,
think
you
know
a
draw
on
one
of
the
reasons
why
you
know
the
city
has
focused
on
you
know
protecting
this
part
of
spring
Bayou
I.
Think
a
question
was
raised
whether
or
not
this
is
this
is
in
the
historic
district.
W
The
other
houses
they're
on
I,
think
it's
Central,
Avenue
or
central
court
I
forget
what
the
actual
designation
is,
which
is
the
piece
of
land
that
goes
out
in
fronts.
Craig
park,
that's
outside
the
historic
district.
Several
of
them
do
have
Roos
and
have
an
open
style.
But
again
that's
that's
outside
of
the
historic
district,
so
they
probably
didn't
have
to
come
to
you
guys
in
the
first
place,
for
approval.
W
The
real
concern
is,
you
know
it.
Nobody
else.
Has
you
know
several
people
have
redone
their
docks,
there's
several
new
docks
that
have
been
done,
one
even
recently,
and
and
none
of
them
have
put
in
roofs
and
I,
think
you
know
that
would
alter
the
character
of
what's
going
on
in
that
section
of
spring
bayou.
You
know
it's,
it's
everything's,
you
know
sort
of
like
the
private
property.
That's
along
the
Bayou,
which
I'll
say
you
know
as
all
the
piers
are
fairly
minimalistic.
You
know
they
have
small
piers.
W
You
know
they
have
gates
in
front
of
the
pier,
so
nobody
can
go
out
on
them,
but
it
doesn't
obtrude.
You
know,
doesn't
intrude
on
the
people
coming
to
see
them
entities
in
correct
Park,
walking
alone
along
the
Bayou
and
exercising
and
seeing
the
homes
that
sit
along
the
side,
and
by
doing
you
know
by
allowing
that
you
know
this,
doctor
come
in
with
a
roof
structure.
W
I'll
have
a
problem
with
the
dock,
where
the
boat
lift
or
anything
else,
but
with
the
roof
structure
you
know,
maybe
the
next
person
that
comes
in
is
going
to
ask
that.
Then
the
next
person
is
gonna
ask
forth
and
then
maybe
we
have
ten
dots
that
have
roof
structures
on
top
of
on
top
of
the
boat
lifts
that
then
you
know
now
you
don't
have
an
open
space
looking
over
to
Craig
part
or
where
people
can
see
the
manatees.
It
looks
like
there's
a
bunch
of
private
boat
docks
at
line.
T
John
Byrne's
I
live
at
164,
North,
Spring,
Boulevard
and
I,
just
like
to
echo
his
comments
of
their.
As
you
said,
there
are
no
houses
in
historic
district
on
spring
that
have
roof
on
their
their
boathouse.
The
houses
on
Central
Corridor,
not
in
the
historic
district
and
those
are
in
people's
backyards,
I
mean
if
they
want
to
ruin
their
own
view.
That's
fine,
but
the
the
walkway,
especially
the
lower
walkway
along
the
bayou,
has
become
a
big
tourist.
Draw
I
mean
there's
folks
there
all
the
time
and
I.
T
E
E
L
E
I
Just
just
for
the
for
the
record,
people
typically
like
to
hear
this,
but
just
cuz
it's
been
raised
tonight,
the
public
or
any
other
person.
Besides
the
property,
there
is
no
right
to
a
view
and
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
So
you
do
have
to
base
this
off
of
your
criteria
and
evidence
presented
tonight.
Thank.
U
V
B
I
I
A
E
Q
E
E
E
E
So
that
might
be
something
we
want
to
look
at,
but
the
this
you
know
my
analysis
was
based
on.
As
the
applicant
stated,
the
proposed
doc
is
going
to
be
basically
at
the
water
level
they're
having
to
put
a
step
up
on
it,
because
the
water
level
is
so
high.
It's
basically
going
to
be
at
that
water
level.
The
roof
structure
will
be
tight
enough
for
people
to
walk
under,
so
you
will
be
able
to
see,
see
the
water
see
Craig
park
and
all
that
in
this
area.
L
E
E
K
E
A
A
A
A
A
I
E
G
G
E
E
You
know
that
that's
what
you're
looking
at
whether
they
can
have
they
they
can.
They
can
have
a
dog
okay,
so
you
so
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
deny
them
water
access.
I
mean
that's
going
beyond
you,
you
can.
You
can
review
the
look
of
it
and
the
scale
of
it
in
the
context
of
of
the
historic
district.
Just
like
you
do
the
shed
or
any
other
accessory
structure.
E
I
I
So
you
as
a
board
you,
you
have
to
make
a
decision
based
on
all
the
evidence
that
was
presented,
so
the
staff
is
represented
evidence.
The
applicants
meant
there's
evidence
and
then
the
gentlemen
that
have
come
up
and
presented
testimony.
So
you
are
sitting
as
a
quasi-judicial
board
weighing
all
the
evidence
we
heard.
E
H
A
I
H
Thing
to
spot
got
me
confused,
really
is
a
doc
itself.
Okay,
okay,
I
see
what
we
are.
We
are
involved
with
everything
else,
but
the
doc
seems
different.
Okay,
it's
it's!
It's
maritime!
You
know
it's
not
really
part
of
the
house,
it
doesn't
affect
the
house.
So
why
do
we
have
to
vote
on
head
at
all
as
a
Historical,
Society
I
think
had
addressed.
H
H
A
A
E
A
J
G
H
L
A
E
E
We
will
be
supplying
kind
of
an
agenda
and
outline
for
the
design
guidelines
like
like
a
rough
draft
outline
for
you
to
look
at
in
the
meantime,
if
you
I'll
be
sending
an
email
with
with
the
pointing
out
where
the
resources
are
on
the
website,
which
is
the
design
guide,
the
city's
historic
survey
report,
and
course
the
master
site
file
and
the
map
of
the
district.
So
if
there
are
so,
I
will
be
sending
this
email
tomorrow
morning
and
I
have
an
email
list
of
the
interested
citizens.
E
E
I
mean
separate:
each
application
has
its
own
fee,
so
I
mean
the
short
answer
is
yes,
I
guess
I
can
try
and
see
if
I
can
figure
out
a
way
to
do
it
differently,
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
would
do
that
if
we're
going
to
write
up
if
we're
gonna
notice,
each
separate
one
write-up
suffered
staff
reports
for
each
separate
one
yeah,
that's
what
the
month.
That's
what
the
guy-
and
this
is
our
lowest
cost
application
in
the
city.
It's
only
$50,
but
so
it's
so
it
you
know.
That's.