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A
Do
you
have
a
motion,
I'll
move,
yeah
move
to
a
proof?
Okay,.
B
B
C
A
D
A
Yes,
okay,
now
move
on
to
the
september
13th
2021.
A
E
C
A
A
Yes,
okay,
we'll
go
on
to
quasi-judicial.
B
Yes,
absolutely
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
heritage
preservation
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
manner,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It's
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
F
F
B
B
F
A
B
A
Okay,
and
if
I
can,
I
think
you.
B
H
A
A
That
must
be
a
new
one.
Oh
okay,.
A
A
E
D
G
G
G
All
of
these,
the
entire
project
is
going
to
be
performed
on
what
is
looks
to
me
like
a
it's,
a
flat
roof
extension,
rear
extension
of
the
original
home,
and
the
applicant
is
here
to
speak
to
that.
If
you
have
questions,
we
have
replacement
of
one
window
with
a
new
door,
as
mentioned
the
attachment
of
the
awning
and
replacement
of
the
other
windows
that
are
on
that
room
extension.
G
G
G
G
This
shows
the
location
of
the
work.
We've
got
a
window
replacement
on
the
east
side
along
pineapple
street
two
window
replacements
on
the
south
side,
and
then
the
awning
attached
to
the
garage
and
the
door
is
actually
going
to
go
back
here
out
of
street
view,
but
replacing
a
window
on
that
room
extension
which
I
should
have
highlighted.
G
It's
that
little
12
by
20
extension
of
the
house-
and
here
you
can
see
the
extension
the
applicant
had
labeled
that
this
window
would
be
replaced
with
a
double
set
of
one
over
one
windows,
but
then
emailed
that
he
would
like
to
change
it
to
a
single.
There
are
single
and
double
sets
on
this
side
I
feel
like
either
would
be
appropriate,
so
he
can
speak
to
that
again.
G
These
are
the
window
sets
on
that
side.
The
current
windows.
I
think
I
had
two
materials
well,
no,
this
one.
I
believe
these
are
metal.
The
master
site
file
form
notes,
metal
windows
put
into
the
home,
and
these
are,
I
believe,
all
metal
and
then
everything
on
the
extension
are
awning
type
windows,
metal,
awning
windows.
G
G
You
can
see
that
there
are
triple
sets
on
the
residents,
as
noted
on
the
master
site
file
form.
This
is
one
in
the
front,
and
this
is
just
a
close-up
picture
showing
all
the
original
wood
surrounds
and
and
frames,
and
then
the
painted
white
metal,
the
windows
are
and
well.
The
windows
are
proposed
to
be
vinyl,
and
I
believe
that,
even
with
a
mix
of
materials
that
that
they'll
be,
you
won't
really
be
able
to
distinguish
between
the
metal
and
the
vinyl
even
very
well.
G
Up
close,
this
is
the
window
that
will
be
replaced
with
a
steel
door.
This
is
again
on
the
west
side,
not
visible
from
either
street
furniture.
The
applicant
proposes
to
match
the
door,
that's
on
the
pineapple
street
side,
so
that
is
the
door.
It's
a
steel
door
with
a
six
light
window
in
it,
and
I
believe
on
that
these
are
all
wood
surrounds
as
well.
I
believe
the
applicant
can
speak
to
this,
but
the
proposed
door,
open
new
opening
and
surrounds
the
frame
and
threshold
will
be
of
wood
material.
G
This
is
the
garage
where
the
awning
will
be
placed.
This
is
kind
of
a
design
design,
it'll
be
kind
of
a
cantilevered
awning,
with
the
shade
material
on
top
attached
to
the
side
of
the
garage,
not
interfering
with
really
with
any
of
the
garage
roof.
This
is
just
a
view
coming
down
pineapple.
You
can
see
the
backyard.
In
fact,
the
applicant
is
currently
using
shade
sails
back
there,
so
this
would
be
something
different
to
use
that
that's,
maybe
a
little
more
sturdy
and
can
also
still
be
easily
removed
in
the
event
of
an
approaching
storm.
G
G
G
That
facade
really
predominates,
so
we
are
recommending
approval
of
this
project
and
we
did
receive
one
response
in
support
of
the
project
from
the
public
notice.
Are
there
any
questions
for
staff.
A
Yeah,
my
name
is
my
name.
Is
bill.
Sprecker,
I
own
the
house
on
405
west
lemon
pat
did
a
good
job,
explaining
everything
was
going
on
the
windows,
the
existing
windows
on
the
edition.
That's
an
actual
edition,
it's
more
like
a
florida
room,
what
they
used
to
call
a
florida
room.
It's
got
a
lot
of
lot
of
windows
in
it
and
the
wood
framing
around.
A
Let's
see
the
awning
is
it's
going
to
be
very
light?
It
like
I
say
it
matches
it.
Like
pat
said
it
matches
the
shades
that
I
have
in
the
back
already.
I
keep
it
light.
That's
where
I
cook
you
know,
and
I
keep
it
light
so
that
during
a
storm
I
can
pull
it
down
the
same
with
the
shades
everything
comes
down
during
that.
A
What
else
this
door,
the
main
reason
for
the
door
is
one
it
gives
a
little
bit
private
entrance
to
the
garage,
but
the
main
reason
is
it's
ground
level,
so
I
don't
have
any
stairs
at
that
place
and
my
mom
would
be
a
lot
easier
getting
her
inside
the
house.
Now,
okay
and
that's
about
it,
is
there
any
questions.
C
Yeah
you
mentioned,
I
don't
know
on
which
windows
there's
going
to
be
a
10
inch
difference.
Are
these
new
windows
10,
inches,
smaller
or
10
inches
bigger.
C
A
And
with
siding
they've
got
siding
to
match
the
asbestos
siding
is.
A
What's
on
there
now
so
you're
able
to
find
that
oh
yeah
yeah,
that's
down
to
st
pete,
the
you
know
that
yeah
I'll
be
able
to
fill
all
that
in
because
it'll
look
just
like
it.
I
On
the
windows,
is
it
just
windows,
or
is
it
the
the
one
over
ones
that
are
on
the
side
that
are
the
single
hung?
Windows
are
those
being.
A
No
the
same
this,
the
single
hung
are
the
window
exist
on
the
main
house:
okay,
they're
they're
written,
not
originals,
but
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
kept
there
for
a
while.
I
F
E
A
G
G
G
This
area
of
the
fruit
bowl
was
filled
in
between
well
by
1942.
Let's
put
it
that
way,
so
the
older
you
know,
hand-drawn
maps,
show
that
us
as
swamp
basically
wetlands
and
there
are
other
parts
of
the
fruit.
That's
true,
you
guys
probably
know-
and
this
was
probably
I'm
going
to
guess-
the
first
house
built
along
that
that
little
block
there
of
spring
boulevard.
G
It
and,
as
you
know,
we
had
our
survey,
our
our
historic
district
survey
done
in
2009.
At
that
time,
the
survey
master
site
file,
form
notes,
aluminum,
siding
and
change
out
of
windows.
I
believe
metal
windows
and
a
an
accessory
structure.
Maybe
a
garage,
the
garage
appears
to
be
gone,
I
mean
it
is
gone
and
the
aluminum
siding
is
gone
since
then
in
2015.
G
G
G
This
property
has
a
public
view
from
south
spring
boulevard
bay
street
and
from
this
this
alley,
this
public
alley
here
on
the
south
side.
So
it's
it's
pretty
visible
from
from
three
public
furnitures.
G
G
G
So
yeah
I
there
is.
There
is
an
error
in
your
staff
report.
I
said
that
the
edition
was
larger.
I
misread
the
plans
and
the
applicant
has
since
given
us
additional
elevation
views,
which
I
passed
out
to
you
earlier.
The
addition
really
essentially
is
double.
It
doubles
the
depth
of
the
house,
so
the
house
is
30.7
feet
and
the
addition
is
31.5.
G
The
materials
proposed
are
basically
to
continue
these
some,
the
cementitious
siding
called
parge
coating
and
the
embedded
shell
on
the
structure.
There
was
partly
my
fault-
I
didn't
get
back
to
the
applicant
early
enough
for
her
to
give
us
more
information.
I
thought
there
was
more
in
there
than
there
was
and
she
asked
that
we
look
at
this
tonight,
but
there
are
some
things
missing
from
the
materials
list
and
she
can
fill
that
in.
G
We
have
a
door
proposed
in
the
back
which
the
applicant
will
talk
with
you
about,
and
I
did
notice
on
the
elevations
that
we
have
windows
on
each
side.
New
windows,
which
I
didn't
did
not
realize
those
were
not
on
the
original
plans.
So
that's
something
else
the
applicant
can
clarify
and
the
the
foundation
of
the
addition
as
well.
G
G
This
is
the
existing
back
of
the
structure.
When
we
look
at
the
elevations
you're
going
to
note
that
the
the
applicant
wishes
to
bring
this
wall
out,
there
will
be.
Obviously
this
is
a.
This
is
a
side
gable,
roof
there.
This
will
be
a
front
gable.
Roof
extended
out
from
this
slope.
G
G
G
This
is
another
view
with
a
bad
attempt
by
me
to
try
to
block
out
what
would
be.
This
is
obviously
not
to
scale
the
carport
is
open,
so
you
know
there
is
that
to
consider
is
that
it's
not
a
complete
wall?
Probably
the
roof
extension
is
the
most
prominent.
G
This
is
from
south
spring.
I
just
took
this
from
google,
but
yeah
you
can
see
because
of
the
way
the
property
is
oriented
on
spring
boulevard,
and
these
are
all
this
way
because
of
that's
that
curved
rounded
shoreline
the
this.
This
is
where,
where
the
car
is
parked,
where
that
addition
would
go
and
again
carport
so
you'll
be
able
to
kind
of
see
through
it,
you'll
just
see
that
that
roof
extension
mostly.
This
is
the
rear,
I'm
in
the
alley
at
this
point
where
it
parallels
spring
boulevard.
G
So
this
is
a
nice
deep,
rear
yard.
The
addition
is
is
well
set
back
from
this
portion
of
the
alley,
so
it
really
doesn't
interfere
with
that
any
environment.
It's
not
real
significant
change
when
viewed
directly
from
the
back.
G
G
I
can't
remember
if
sitefile
has
it
on
there,
but
it
looks
like
the
proposed
windows
on
the
the
side.
Elevations
are
proposed
to
match
these
windows,
so
we
would.
We
would
like
to
find
out
what
those
windows
are
are
proposed
to
be.
The
applicant
has
mentioned
that
I
believe
she
wants
to
match
this
rear
door,
but
she
can
speak
to
what
type
of
door
she's
looking
for
on
the
rear.
G
This
is
just
a
close-up
of
that
kind
of
it's
not
really
stucco.
It's
it's
some
almost
kind
of
a
sand
painted
sand,
it's
kind
of
what
I
liken
it
to,
and
this
is
the
embedded
shell
they
have
on
the
plant,
soffits
and
and
fascia
to
match.
It
looks
like
that
it's
all
either
metal
or
vinyl,
but
that
seems
to
be
proposed
to
match.
G
My
gut
tells
me
that
next
round
survey
that
this
may
go
to
non-contributing
as
it
sits
just
because
of
the
porch,
but
I
don't
know
that
for
sure
that's
something
you
might
want
to
consider,
but
it's
the
scale
and
the
massing
of
the
addition
that
that
concerns
me,
I
would
say
most
of
the
minimal
traditionals
in
town
that
I've
seen
like
the
one
we
just
saw
have
a
separate
garage
if
they
have
one
that
could
be
done
here
understand
why
the
applicant
would
not
want
to
do
that.
G
Specify
you
know,
have
the
applicant
specify
the
materials
proposed
for
everything
and
approve,
especially
the
windows
and
doors?
I
think
we're
okay
on
most
of
the
other
items,
so
she
could
consider
a
detached
carport
if
it
makes
you
more
comfortable,
she
could
have
the
structure
evaluated
by
an
architect
or
an
architectural
historian
just
to
give
a
little
more
documentation
on
on
how
it
might
be
considered
in
the
next
survey.
C
I
have
a
question
yeah,
just
a
quick
one
with
that
shell
finish.
Would
that
have
been
period?
Would
that
have
been
original
or
something
added
over
the
years?
I've
never
seen
that
before.
G
I
never
have
either
and
I
did
not
look
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
answer.
I
did
not
find
a
certificate
of
approval
for
that.
It
would
have
required
one
whether
the
city,
you
know
did
required
at
that
time.
I'm
not
sure
you
know
if
the
applicant
was
aware
that
it
needed
one.
G
So
you
know,
and
it
could
have
been,
that
a
permit
wasn't
needed.
I'm
not
sure
what
what
happened
there
and
I
believe
the
applicant
can
speak
to
what
the
what
the
exterior
exterior
material
of
the
walls
was
before
she
did.
This
work
so.
E
G
As
far
as
the
the
size
again
I'll
bring
up
that
slide,
basically
it's
it's
double,
so
it's
a
hundred
percent
of
the
depth
of
the
existing
residence
and
to
the
applicant's
favor.
I
mean
this
this
I
think
site
file,
lists
it
as
960
square
feet.
I
think
appraiser
listed,
you
know
it's
under
a
thousand
square
feet
of
living
area.
It's
a
small,
it's
a
minimal
traditional
and
you
know
so
it's
so.
I
can
see
why
we
would
want
an
addition.
G
You
know,
and
this
this
small
addition
well.
This
is
probably,
I
believe,
about
38
of
the
depth.
I
think
I
had
in
the
staff
report
of
the
depth
of
the
existing
living
area,
so
you're
adding
38
there.
You
know
that's
something
for
continuance.
Adaptive
continuance
use
of
this
structure
that
certainly
you
could
consider
to
be
reasonable,
given
the
amount
of
living
area.
That's
in
it
now,
the
tougher
part
is
just
that
whole
extension
under
roof
all
the
way,
back
kind
of
doubling
that
prominent
roof
view
of
the
roof.
J
J
It
is
stucco
on
the
house
and
I
did
have
a
stucco
permit
when
I
originally
changed
that
I
bought
the
house
in
2015
and
it
was
the
siding,
but
we
did
put
the
stucco
on
it
and
that
was
approved
through
the
board
here
and
then
also
through
the
city
permitting.
J
The
windows
in
the
house
that
currently
exist
are
metal
windows.
I'd
like
to
eventually
change
out
all
the
windows,
because
they're
not
that
great
of
quality
of
windows.
So
I
was
hoping
to
go
with
the
vinyl
windows
for
the
two
new
ones
and
then,
in
due
time,
change
out
the
rest
of
them.
If
I
had
to
go
with
metal,
I'm
willing
to
do
whatever
you
guys
tell
me
you
want
me
to
do
on
that.
It's
only
two
windows.
J
J
It
was
a
definite
hazard,
it
was
leaning,
but
it
did
have
where
you
could
drive
your
car
into
it,
but
I
was
scared
to
walk
into
it,
to
be
honest
with
you
and
it
was
probably
the
whole
the
size
of
the
carport
that
we're
putting
up
there.
Now,
if
that
helps
what
other
questions
did
you
guys
have
the
shelves?
J
J
A
J
J
I
just
like
that
idea.
I
would
like
to
one
day,
like
I
said,
close
it
in,
if
I
could,
if
I
can't
in
fact
I'm
not
even
100
sure
I
ever
want
a
garage
totally,
but
if
I
do,
I
felt
like
I
already
had
the
roof
line
there
to
go
forward
with
it,
but
I
do
know.
C
Well,
I
kind
of
had
the
same
question
that
you
did
if,
if
you're
thinking
along
in
the
maybe
not
near
future,
if
you're
thinking
of
enclosing
it
all,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
to
take
any
of
that
into
consideration
now
with
the
design
that's
presented,
I'm
assuming
not,
but
I
guess
I
had
that
same
question
of
if
you're
thinking
of
at
some
point
possibly
enclosing
this.
J
If
I
did
that
at
this
point,
I'd
have
to
put
do
two
different
structures
at
this
point
right
now,
and
I
honestly
didn't
know
that
you
guys
would
approve
me
for
that.
If
I
did
that
plus
it
would
take
up
more
of
the
backyard
if
I
scooted.
J
Wasn't
sure
if
that
would
be
something
to
deter
you
guys
from
approving
it.
C
Okay
and
on
this
carport
excuse
me,
is
there
going
to
be
a
enclosed
ceiling
or
is
it.
C
J
C
C
J
A
J
A
F
A
It's
in
the
back
of
the
house.
That's
the
main
thing:
okay,
okay,
call
a
vote,
then.
A
F
A
A
G
G
When
I
was
visiting
the
site,
the
applicant
mentioned
that
that
really
the
bottom
is
masonry
and
the
top
has
that
cement
kind
of
applied
to
the
wood
frame
structure,
the
site
file,
form
kind
of
wonders
whether
the
stucco
was
original
the
applicant
in
in
doing
their
project.
I
I
think
they
feel
that
that
it
was
original.
So
that's
something
they
can
talk
about.
G
But
the
style
in
any
case
is
considered
masonry
vernacular
just
wanted
to
read
from
the
site
file
the
description
of
the
building.
Just
just
as
a
context
for
this.
The
building
features
a
regular
massing.
It
has
a
three-story
tower
with
mansard
roof
at
the
southwest
corner.
That's
here,
arched
wood,
louvered
vents
into
our
roof.
G
G
There's
a
picture
of
that
flank
by
two
doric
columns
supporting
a
mission
shaped
parapet
with
stucco
reliefs.
The
windows
are
arched
with
stained
glass,
a
stucco
sight
wall
is
located
at
the
rear
of
the
property,
so
the
arch
features
seem
to
be
a
prominent
kind
of
theme
of
the
architecture
of
this
building.
Even
the
windows
have
that
arched
pattern,
so
the
applicant
is
proposing.
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
new
vinyl
windows
and
new
openings
on
the
north
side
and
reclo
relocating
that
north
wall
double
doors
which
appear
to
be
original
to
be
replaced
with
french
doors
on
the
center
street
side
enclosing
the
west
side
at
the
top
of
the
stairway
with
a
stucco
wall
that
will
match
the
building.
So
the
materials
include
vinyl
windows
and
doors
and
stucco
wall
surface.
G
The
stairway
to
be
enclosed
is
going
to
be
over
to
the
left
side
and
it's
it's
entered
once
you
go
up
that
grand
staircase
it's
entered
to
the
left
the
applicant
proposes
to
to
wall
off
at
the
top
of
the
stairs
and
then
on
the
north
side.
This
arch
here,
the
as
you
can
see,
the
this
is
all
you
know
was-
was
painted
all
one
color,
but
the
applicant
actually
in
repainting,
the
property
has
kind
of
shown
you
the
different.
G
This
is
kind
of
the
lower
basement
almost
basement
level,
and
then
this
is
the
upper
story
shows
you
that
division
of
where
these
features
are
so
these
windows
would
be
on
that
upper
story,
but
they
would
be
under
this
archway
on
the
north
side,.
G
G
G
The
applicant
can
speak
to
that,
and
these
are
all
non-original
windows
on
the
bottom
story
that
were
replaced,
and
the
same
seems
to
be
true
for
these
two
windows
that
are
up
under
this
archway.
The
idea
is
to
take
where
the
applicant's
hand
is
showing
this
wall
and
move
it
forward
to
the
back
of
that
archway.
So
move
it
forward
a
little
bit,
and
this
is
a
better
view
of
those
two
windows
up
under
the
arch.
G
I
couldn't
really
get
a
full
view,
but
you
can
see
that
moving
forward,
it's
on
it's
on
a
side,
a
view
of
the
structure.
It
is
visible
from
grand
boulevard
really
in
the
aspect
of
this.
This
building
it's
got
besides
the
rear
yard,
it's
kind
of
the
you
know,
non-ornate
non-prominent
side
of
the
structure,
and
this
is
the
driveway.
G
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
two
fixed
windows
on
either
side
and
in
that
middle
window
would
be
a
casement
window
to
allow
emergency
egress,
and
then
this
is
just
a
picture
of
the
vinyl
fridge
doors
and
we'll
look
at
that
area.
Now
these
are
the
doors
to
be
replaced
again.
It's
believed
they're
original
these
doors.
When
you
go
up
the
grand
entry
on
the
front
and
you
go
to
the
right
at
the
top
of
the
stairs.
G
It's
believed
that
these
doors
were
solid
like
this
one,
with
these
six
picture
frame
designs
and
then
these,
I
don't
know
plexiglas
or
plastic
inserts,
were
put
in
and
modified
on
this
door.
The
applicant
can
speak
to
attempts
to
rehabilitate
this
set
of
doors,
but
apparently
they
are
an
issue,
so
those
would
be
replaced
with
the
french
doors.
G
This
is
the
view
from
west
center
street
until
I
was
able
to
meet
with
the
applicant
and
enter
the
property.
I
didn't
even
realize
whether
this
was
originally
a
double
door
or
not.
So
it's
it's
difficult
to
see.
This
is
probably
the
best
view.
It
really
isn't
very
prominent
when
viewed
directly
all
this
landscaping
kind
of
hides
it
plus
that
nice
archway
porch.
It
really
does
a
good
job
of
hiding
that
door
and
kind
of
takes
away
your
attention
from
the
door.
G
This
is
the
entry
at
the
front,
so
it'll
be
walled
off
at
the
top
behind
at
the
top
of
the
stairs
behind
the
stained
glass
windows,
so
that
won't
be
disturbed.
G
G
The
applicant
can
also
speak
to
the
the
condition
of
the
rest
of
the
windows
on
the
building.
When
I
was
on
site,
you
mentioned
that
they
all
work
they're,
all
operable
and
they're,
in
fairly
good
shape.
Those
are
those
stained
glass,
wood
windows,
so
hopefully
this
will
be
a
nice
rehabilitation
project
for
this
building.
Are
there
any
questions.
G
Well,
I
didn't
get
a
picture
of
it.
It's
right
over
here.
The
the
vehicle
here
blocks
it.
You
can
see
the
top
feature
over
the
entrance.
That's
where
people
actually
enter
they.
You
know
it's
some,
so
there's
that
one.
G
As
far
as
I
know,
the
one
you
know
the
applicants
rehabilitating
these
doors
to
the
right
of
that
grand
staircase.
So
that
would
be
two
on
that
side.
So
I
think
they're,
okay
for
a
single-family
residence
to
use.
They
should.
C
G
A
K
K
We're
golf
cart
fanatics,
so
you
probably
have
seen
us
rolling
around
on
our
golf
cart
already.
It
was
the
very
first
thing
we
bought
when
we
moved
in,
but
yeah
we
started
doing
little
fix
up
things
on
the
outside,
like
the
paint,
as
you
can
see,
as
we've
been
waiting
for
our
architect
to
draft
our
drawings
and
then
go
on
this
review
for
something
we
wanted
to
change
on
the
outside
the
three
windows
on
that
wall.
She's
talking
about
that's
gonna,
be
our
master
bedroom,
upstairs,
there's
no
real
natural
light
there.
K
All
the
windows
on
the
upstairs
are
all
stained
glass.
So
with
adding
these
three
windows,
it'll
help
bring
some
natural
light
into
the
upstairs
and
the
reason
why
we're
pushing
that
wall
out.
Some
is,
if
you
look
it's
under
the
archway,
and
it
doesn't
allow
a
lot
even
with
the
windows,
the
two
that
are
there
now
they're
non-stained
they're
vinyl.
K
It
doesn't
allow
a
lot
of
natural
light
in
it,
because
it's
kind
of
shaded,
or
so
by
pushing
that
out
a
little
bit
further,
a
foot
in
half
or
so
it'll
get
it
it's
a
more
natural
light
and
we're
trying
to
get
the
larger
windows.
And
then
one
like
you
brought
up
the
one
in
the
middle
will
be
a
egress
emergency
escape.
If
we
need
to.
K
The
doors
on
the
center
street,
you
can
actually
see
where
I
sanded
one
down
to,
because
I
try
to
re,
keep
whatever
I
can.
I
like
the
historical
aspect,
but
it's
kind
of
hard
to
tell
from
the
picture,
but
where
the
lock's
at
about
that
far
down
all
the
way
to
the
bottom
and
along
the
bottom,
I
took
that
cap
sweep
off.
It's
called
near
the
threshold,
it's
all
rotted
out
and
it
has
termite
damage
the
door
really
is.
K
I
don't
think
I
could
repair
it
to
be
functional.
It
doesn't
it's
hard
to
even
get
it
to
function
as
it
is
now
and
then
there's
it's
already
been
modified.
As
you
can
see,
somebody
cut
holes
into
it
to
put
the
windows
which
I
actually
like,
because
it
adds
some
more
natural
light,
but
I
think
it's
better
just
to
replace,
replace
them
and
then,
if,
if
I
can
replace
them,
I
like
to
replace
them
with
more
glass.
So
that
way
it
allows
more
natural
light
up.
There.
K
And
the
wall
on
the
front
staircase
when
you
go
up,
you
can't
see
the
wall
where
I'm
gonna
put
it.
Unless
somebody
were
to
walk
on
my
property
walk
up
the
stairs
like
they're
gonna,
try
to
go
in
some
into
my
home,
but
when
you
walk
up
to
the
top,
if
you
look
to
your
left,
you
would
be
able
to
see
it,
but
from
the
street
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
the
wall
and
basically,
what
that's
going
to
be
is
that
entrance
by
blocking
it
off.
K
We
already
have
the
plans
in
for
plan
review
right
now,
but
by
blocking
off
that
doorway,
it's
not
going
to
like
egress
wise.
It
doesn't
affect
us
and
actually
that's
going
to
be
our
laundry
room.
Wine
cellar.
So
we're
going
to
keep
that
stained
glass
window
inside
there
kind
of
a
neat
thing
with
the
wine
cellar.
I
K
F
K
K
I
Yeah
I've
actually
been
in
your
house.
The
most
confusing
thing
is
all
the
doors.
K
I
K
Well,
I
know
that,
like
none
of
this
is
about
what
we're
doing
on
the
inside
so
since
you've
been
in
it,
we
have
you
know
it's
two
stories
and
we're
we're
living
in
the
basement.
Right
now,.
F
K
And
our
goal
is
basically
so
we're
gonna
when
we're
done
with
it,
we'll
live
on
the
upstairs
and
then
my
older
daughter,
she's
16..
You
know
we're
gonna
try
to
drive
her
with
having
her
own
apartment
downstairs
when
she
goes
to
college,
so
she
stays
home
sounds.
K
So
she
has
her
own
entrance,
her
own
escape.
You
know
her
little
kitchen.
So
upstairs
I
don't
know
if
you
recall
it's
just
one
giant
room.
H
K
And
it
actually
has
like
slope
floors
like
this
too,
like
a
typical
theater
or
stadium,
and
our
goal
is
basically
build
it
out,
like
an
actual
house
and
because
it
has
tall
ceilings
very
similar
to
this,
like
20-foot
ceilings.
We
can
actually
build
two
stories
in
the
upper
floor,
so
we're
going
to
have
like
think
like
new
york
type
industrial
loft,
so
we'd
have
wrought
iron
railing
and
wrought
iron
spiral.
K
Well,
luckily,
the
floor
actually
has
a
structural
floor
underneath
a
non-structural
slope
floor,
so
the
non-structural
slope
floor
is
added
after
the
original
building.
It's
not
original.
There
was
a
fire.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
knew
that
in
that
building
and
during
that
fire
they
actually
replaced
the
floors
and
added
the
slope
to
it.
So
the
what
we
did
is
we
took
the
slope
out
and
got
to
the
non
the
the
structural
floor,
which
is
already
flat,
and
then
it
gave
us
another
foot
of
ceiling
height
too.
K
K
K
Was
it
the
gentleman
or
the
cheryl
the
last
one
or
remember.
F
J
K
Yeah
there's
been
several
people,
there's
been
several
people
over
the
years.
Who've
obviously
owned
it
and
have
done
their
own
things
to
it.
A
lot
of
it
is
just
kind
of
a
mess,
and
they,
I
think
they
just
did
things.
So
our
goal
is
pretty
much.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
well.
E
A
I
A
C
A
G
G
the
rest
of
these
here,
these
three
of
them
followed
in
the
50s.
I
think
58
59.
G
this
one
here
was
built
in
2002,
it's
a
and
then
there
are
two
to
the
south
of
this
subject:
property
that
were
built
in
1978
and
then
in
the
1980s
that
are
single
story
kind
of
reminiscent
of
the
ranch
style.
So
really,
this
block
has
a
form
of
that
single
story.
Masonry
rich,
you
know
kind
of
theme,
except
for
you
know
the
only
thing
that
is
not
consistent
with
that.
It's
that
newer
home.
G
G
G
So
again,
this
is
I'm
sorry.
G
If,
if
that
was
the
only
thing
requested
and
that's
located
here
at
the
back
of
the
property,
because
it's
newer
and
I
had.
G
G
That's
all
right,
and
so
here's
the
location
of
the
principal
structure.
This
has
a
paved
platted
alley
in
the
back
and
in
south
spring
boulevard
on
the
front.
G
This
is
the
structure
itself,
as
it
sits
now
again,
it's
classified
as
masonry
vernacular.
It
does
have
some
elements
of
the
ranch
style.
The
asymmetric
entrance
the
little
bit
of
emphasis
on
width
rather
than
height.
It's
got
the
hip
roof,
it's
got
corner,
wrap
around
windows,
concrete
sills,
minimal,
porch,
concrete
porch
and
the
iron
scroll
porch
support
are
some
of
the
features.
This
is
the
back
of
the
residence.
G
And
these
are
some
of
those
features.
You
can
see
some
of
the
the
emphasis
on
width
with,
with
a
little
bit
of
the
kind
of
picture
frame,
design,
masonry
design
on
structure
as
well.
G
G
G
But
the
appraisal
notes
a
rehabilitation
and
renovation
total
cost
of
270
000
plus
dollars.
She
based
that
on
something,
so
the
applicant
should
clarify
for
you
what
those
costs
are,
but
that
is
something
to
consider
as
well.
That
is
something
the
appraiser
did
note,
so
it's
kind
of
second
second-hand
information,
but
she
did
rely
on
it
in
producing
the
appraisal.
G
So
the
significant
the
building
is
not
significant
other
than
being
a
contributing
building
in
the
district.
There's,
no
historical
or
special
architectural
significance
attached
to
this
building
the
importance
of
the
building
to
the
district.
G
G
The
way
that
shoreline
curves
around
and
those
structures
are
each
setback,
almost
kind
of
providing
like
a
layered
setback
view
when
you
drive
along
spring
boulevard
there
is
that
and
of
course,
they're
all
one
story,
except
that
that,
except
the
newer
two-story
home,
this
isn't
a
flood
zone,
so
you
can
expect
most
or
all
of
these
to
be
probably
below
flood.
This
is
we'll
talk
more
about
about
that
in
a
minute.
So,
even
if
this
demolition
is
allowed,
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
mitigate
that
form.
G
F
G
There
are
33
residential
masonry
vernacular
structures
in
the
district
built
between
1950
to
1959,
so
26
of
those
are
contributing
or
contributing
altered.
There
are
also
21
properties
listed
as
ranch
style
of
which
seven
are
contributing
again.
This
was
not
listed
as
ranch
style,
although
it
exhibits
those
elements
and
I
will
say
that
ranch
style
extends
up
to
1975.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Now
we
talked
about
that.
The
floor
must
be
raised
for
ventilation.
The
property
is
also
in
a
flood
zone.
Current
required
elevation
is
10
feet,
the
property
is
at,
and
that
is
the
fema
required.
G
Not
the
the
city
also
has
a
one
foot
free
board
requirement,
but
fema
requires
10
feet,
so
the
current
property
is
4.2
feet.
The
current
finish
floor
is
4.2
feet
below
that
they
provided
an
elevation
elevation
certificate
showing
none
so
raising
the
floor.
2.7
feet
would
still
have
it
be
below
flood.
G
Now
this
property
is
contributing
and
it
is
exempt
from
fema
floodplain
requirements
as
long
as
it
retains
its
contributing
status
or
contributing
altered,
but
a
contributing
status
in
the
district,
so
it
could
be
rebuilt
below
flood.
The
applicant
can
speak
to
that.
I
do
not
believe
they
want
to
do
that,
so
they
can.
They
can
fill
you
in
on
that
new
construction.
G
G
With
preservation
of
the
existing
architecture,
there
may
be
options
to
raise
the
building,
raise
the
walls,
raise
the
roof
and
the
floor,
but
I
I
do
not
know
how
reasonable
and
realistic
those
are.
We
have
not
had
an
analysis
of
those
options.
G
So
again
that
speaks
to
the
return
on
the
economic
return
and
the
economic
feasibility
of
renovations.
I
did
provide
you
with
some
information
from
property
appraiser
on
the
page,
six
of
the
staff
report
providing
some
of
those
total
just
values
of
the
other
structures
on
this
block
along
this
street
and
they're,
not
at
least
this.
This
is
january
2020,
so
they're,
not
very
they're,
not
you
know
extremely
high,
so
you
know
the
to
the
applicant's
point.
G
We
have
some
major
work
which
would
result
in
rent
of
if,
if
the
property
were
renovated,
as
is
could
could
a
reasonable
economic
return,
be
you
know,
be
realized.
That's
that's
really
more
of
a
question
that
could
be
answered
once
you
know,
specifically
what
those
renovations
are,
but.
F
G
The
other
thing
I
could
not
reconcile
with
is
that,
if
that
is
not
reasonable
economic
return,
economic
feasibility
wise,
how
does
that
compare
with
building
a
new
home
which
will
cost
a
certain
amount?
So
that's
where
I
could
not
get
to
meeting
all
the
criteria
on
this,
so
staff
has
recommended
denial
of
this
application.
G
The
building
is
probably
not
old
enough
to
really
salvage,
there's,
really,
probably
not
much
to
salvage.
Somebody
might
want
that
iron
scrolled,
porch
railing
and
support.
G
G
C
Yeah,
getting
getting
back
to
that
black,
that
area
being
filled
in
in
the
40s
excuse
me
and
the
one
of
the
previous
applicants
you
had
mentioned
that
that
could
have
been
the
first
house
that
was
built
there,
and
that
was
39.
I
think
so.
This
is
another
10
or
so
years
later,
11
years
later,
do
you
think
there
were
any
in
between
there
or
is
the
few
houses
that
are
left
would
have
been
built
after
this
one.
G
No,
just
being
the
second
house
built
in
this
area,
I
I
by
itself
I
don't
know.
G
It
will
have
to
be
at
11
foot
elevation
and
I
will,
as
you
guys
are
talking,
I
will
pull
up
the
survey
and
tell
you
what
the
current
elevation
is.
I
can't
remember,
but
the
current
elevation
of
the
property
is
like
three
or
four
feet.
I
want
to
say
so
it
would
be.
You
know.
C
G
G
How
high
they'd
have
to
go
so
I
will
look
that
up,
but.
A
L
L
L
My
sister
lives
in
tokyo,
my
my
father
sister
lives
in
california,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
preserve
what
we
have
since
my
father,
passed
in
well
actually,
shortly
before
he
passed
so
january
of
2020,
I
began
taking
over
his
properties
to
do
whatever
I
could
to
salvage
what
I
could
and
that
included
getting
renovation
estimates
to
to
get
this
house
restored.
L
It's
very
difficult
to
get
someone
to
restore
this
house.
In
fact.
So
far
it
has
been
impossible
for
me
to
do
that
and
that's
when
I
met
mike
and
we
discussed
restoration
and
we
discussed
demolition
and
before
I
go
too
far.
L
L
My
my
major
problem
with
this
house
is,
if
I
do
invest
in
if
I
can
find
someone
who
is
willing
to
make
the
repairs
and
the
restorations
that
it
requires,
because
what
I've
been
able
to
provide
to
pat
and
she's
been
an
excellent
guide,
and
I
I'm
very
appreciative
for
that.
Even
what
I've
been
able
to
provide
is
not
encompassing
everything
that
I'm
going
to
have
to
do
to
make
this
house
functional,
but
even
once
I
do
that
I
still
have
the
thread
of
the
water
and
that's
and
that's
kind
of
where
I
am.
L
If,
even
if
I
make
all
these
investments,
because
I
I
have
an
emotional
tie
to
the
house-
it
was
my
grandmother's
home,
but
the
fact
is
that
I
I
can't
save
it
from
the
water
as
it
is,
and
there's
very
little
that
I'll
be
able
to
do
to
save
it
from
the
water
at
that
level.
So
that's
my
dissertation
for
now,
but
I'm
confident
and
I
made
some
notes
as
well
in
case.
We
need
to
reflect
on
some
of
the
questions
that
you
might
have.
H
Perimeters
of
the
city
atop
and
springs
it's
unfortunate
if
christine
had
bought
the
property
as
an
investment
and
then
said,
oh
look,
I
made
a
mistake,
and
now
I
want
you
to
change
things.
It's
her
bad
cavity,
amter!
Let
the
buyer!
Beware!
As
a
new
new
englander
born
and
raised,
I
have
an
appreciation
of
history
of
architecture.
H
H
90
percent
of
the
houses
have
concrete
or
precast
sales.
It
has
windows,
I
mean
it.
It
does
have
that
unique
ornamental
support,
but
unfortunately
it's
so
rotted
out
that
it
no
longer
supports
the
structure
or
anything
else.
It
would
be
something
that'd
be
nice
to
put
as
an
ornamental
piece
in
the
new
design
and
speaking
of
the
new
design.
H
The
whole
mentality
was
to
actually
open
everything
up
to
go
and
build
a
tall
skinny
house
because
of
the
restrictions
of
the
narrowness
of
the
lot.
The
whole
mentality
that
christine
wanted
to
do
is
allow
a
view
through
because
we
do
have
to
raise
the
property
up,
allow
a
view
through
it.
So
it
didn't
look
like
this
big
box
in
the
middle
of
short
houses
all
the
way
around
it.
H
We
haven't
finished
that
yet
because
we
ran
into
this
slight
roadblock.
As
far
as
the
structure
goes,
there
are
no
ventilation
around
the
whole
structure
and
it
is
a
raised
wood
floor.
There
must
be
five
and
a
half
inches
of
black
mold,
dangerous
mold,
which
has
spread
throughout
the
whole
house.
So
in
essence,
there's
no
pragmatic
way
to
look
at
it
other
than
to
say
everything
has
to
be
gutted
and
part
of
the
pat's
presentation
was
was
the
low
profile.
H
Well,
when
you
raise
up
the
floor
to
allow
for
proper
ventilation
that
whole
roof's
going
to
come
up
four
feet
and
you
and
you'll
you'll
lose
that
sense
of
low
profile.
So
it's
going
to
be
virtually
impossible
to
renovate
this.
Now
there
was
an
estimate
of
117
000
and
then
it
said
the
roof
was
8
500.
H
Well,
the
8
500
won't
even
do
the
roofing.
I
don't
know
where
that
came
from,
but
you
can't
even
buy
the
roofing
right
now
never
mind.
You
know
that
roofing
job's,
probably
14
15
000
and
that's
on
the
cheap.
That
being
said,
the
whole
roof's
got
to
come
off
the
rafters
everything
every
bit
of
plumbing
has
to
come
out.
The
wiring
is
from
1951,
it
will
meet
the
code
and
then,
if
we
want
to
go
to
the
code
issues
all
of
the
windows
in
there
don't
meet
egress.
H
So
let's
say
you
say
you
have
to
do
it.
Well,
it's
all
going
to
have
to
get
cut
out
to
meet
the
building
code,
because
I
I
you
can
supersede
the
fema
regulations
but
you're
not
going
to
supersede
that
and
our
estimate
that
we
gave,
I
think,
was
almost
300
000
to
restore
this
house
to
its
original
form,
because
in
my
office
they
said
well,
we
can
pour
a
slab
and
raise
that
up
and
raise
everything
up
and
add
three
and
a
half
four
feet
to
the
perimeter.
H
H
I
respect
this
board.
I
appreciate
this
board
because
I've
seen
historical
houses
in
my
hometown
of
tucson
mary
massachusetts
torn
down
because
we
had
no
restrictions
of
it.
It
was
called
brown's
tavern.
Now
it's
a
bank
join,
I
mean,
and
it's
got
glass
windows
and
it's
just
an
obstruction.
Next
to
the
classic
town
hall
center.
H
We
would
in
no
way
shape
or
form
insult
this
area.
She's
friends
with
the
matter
of
fact,
the
neighbors
that
were
here
were
sitting
with
her
that
own
the
houses
all
around
one
lady
lives
to
the
left,
to
the
right,
and
then
the
lady
that
you
approved
her
putting
the
addition.
The
addition
on
she
does
want
to
get
rid
of
that
garage
because
it
is
an
eyesore.
It
won't
match
anything
that
we
would
put
there.
That
would
respect
the
historical
nature
of
top
and
springs,
because
I
mean
basically
anybody
that
owns
those.
G
H
H
They
just
happen
to
be
that
in
that
little
sectional
area,
that
was
isolated
because
they
existed,
and
I
think
pat
did
a
wonderful
job
explaining
everything
and
some
of
her
points
were
that
it
might
not
be
in
any
way
shape
or
form
feasible
economically,
to
be
able
to
keep
the
house
as
it
is.
A
H
I
would
never
I've
had
this
where
in
pasco
county
they
say.
Oh,
if
all
you're
doing
is
replacing
window
by
window,
you
don't
have
to
meet
the
fire
egress
requirements.
Well,
I
don't
want
to
be
the
guy
that
owns
the
company.
That
said,
no,
you
don't
have
to
do
it,
and
then
you
end
up
with
a
four-year-old
that
couldn't
get
out
of
the
house
and
a
firefighter
that
couldn't
get
in
with
his
tanks.
I
won't
do
that.
So
that's
why
those
windows
in
the
bedrooms
all
have
to
be
completely
replaced.
H
A
H
It's
it's
just:
it's
not
cost
effective
at
all.
I
mean
I'm
sure
you
said
to
myself
I'm
going
to
spend
how
much
money
on
this
and
it's
sad,
but
that's
the
current
circumstances.
Right
now
and
I
don't
see
that
changing
in
the
near
future
windows
themselves
and
doors
are
taking
six
seven
eight
months
unless
you
particularly
have
a
size
that
you
can
go
to
lowe's
and
go
pick
it
up.
G
H
F
E
I'm
sorry
that
you
know
we
we've
all
spent
hundreds
of
thousands
in
our
homes,
and
you
know
what
can
I
say
it
can
be
done.
It
can
be
gutted.
My
daughter
on
cape
cod.
She
gutted
the
whole
house,
everything
electrical
plumbing
walls,
roof
and
she's
got
a
gorgeous
home.
That's
worth
double
what
she
gutted
it
for.
So.
F
L
Don't
have
a
slab
and
to
to
insert
a
slab
is
going
to
be
a
new
concern
for
me,
because
then
I'm.
L
The
walls
that
are
on
the
outside
and
when
pat
brought
up
earlier,
the
estimate
from
the
appraiser,
I
think
she
mentioned
a
270
000
investment
to
restore
the
home.
That
came
from
mike's
report.
That
was
in
the
architectural
letter
letter
from
the
architect.
I'm
not.
E
F
L
E
I
G
G
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
still
looking
the
letter
that
was
submitted.
I
I
don't
see
the
estimate
in
there,
but
that's
okay.
You
can
testify
to
that
at
this
point.
My
question:
is
you
just
mentioned
two
things
I'd
like
to
ask
you
about
the
first
is
you
said
it
would
cost
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
raise
the
house.
H
Well,
what
what
the
estimate-
I
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
either
here
is
a
courtesy,
but
it
is
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
and
it
is
close
to
that.
If
you
want
to
to
restore
it
properly,.
G
G
What
is
involved
with
raising
the
house
and
to
what
elevation
or
what
level
did
you
look
at
raising
the
house
to
come
up
with
that
estimate?
The
second
part
of
the
question
you
mentioned
kind
of
in
passing
that
she
won't
be
able
to
insure
it
for
more
than
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
I
would
like
you
to
expand
on
that,
what
that's
based
on
and
why?
Okay?
So
what
was
the
design
you
evaluated
at
300
000
and
what
was
entailed
raising
walls
raising?
You
know.
H
Absolutely
very
happy
to
explain
that
again,
I
look
at
it
as
a
pragmatic
abuse
value
for
the
dollar
it
what
you
value
received
and
the
aesthetic
enhancement
to
preserve,
what's
considered
historic,
the
floors
are
completely
rotted
out
and
to
tell
you
is
that
the
rotting
was
from
the
bottom
up,
so
the
mold
itself
was
continuously
doing
damage
over
several
years.
H
Only
when
there
was
a
roof
leak
and
you
could
see
stains
in
the
ceilings
where
the
water
from
the
roof
leak,
which
was
very
recent
excuse
me.
Recent
turned
around
and
showed
buckling
in
the
in
the
floors
and
when
you
peel
back
the
buckling
of
the
floors
and
then
you
look
that
the
subfloor
is
completely
rotted
out,
then
you
pull
back,
that
the
actual
joists
aren't
that
bad,
because
they're
more
resistant,
southern
yellow
pine
is
more
resistant
to
mold.
H
Okay,
then,
but
it's
this
thick,
because
there's
only
about
nine
inches
between
the
bottom
of
the
joists
in
the
in
the
in
the
ground
level.
Okay,
it's
not
any
room.
There's
no
ventilation
around
the
whole
house
that
I
could
observe,
because
I'm
on
the
record,
I
I
don't
want
to
misrepresent,
but
there's
not
that
I
could
see
so
there's
no
flow
under
there.
H
Our
professional
opinion
in
my
office
was
that
raising
it
up
at
least
three
feet:
three
foot,
I
think
it
was
three
foot
seven
would
would
allow
for
proper
ventilation,
but
in
doing
so
the
plumbing
the
electrical,
the
every
aspect
of
the
house,
the
drywall,
which
has
mold
growing
in
behind
it.
But
if
you
stood
there
you
don't
see
it
it's
it's
it's
a
hidden
disaster.
H
Everybody
is
knows
that
that's
the
problem
and
then
once
you
go
and
raise
that
up,
you
only
end
up
with
you
know:
five
foot,
four
foot,
six
ceilings
once
you
raise
it
up
properly,
which
means
now
the
whole
roof
structure
has
to
come
off.
The
outside
perimeter
of
the
block
walls
have
to
be
raised
proportionately.
H
Then
a
new
rust
truss
system
has
to
be
put
up.
Okay,
I
believe
the
air
handler
is
in
the
attic
which
is
no
longer
allowed
by
code,
or
at
least
it's
not
cost
effective,
because
now
you
have
to
go
and
put
a
complete
encapsulation
and
you
have
to
leave
room
for
five
feet
all
the
way
around
plus
the
height
of
the
roof.
H
It
just
doesn't
meet
the
building
codes
and
again
the
windows,
the
egress,
all
that
stuff
just
adds
up
to
when
you're,
when
you're
done
getting
ready
to
build
all
you're
going
to
have
is
the
concrete
walls
on
the
outside,
and
I
look
at
that
house
and
it
doesn't
even
have
a
a
stucco.
It's
a,
I
believe,
it's
a
rub
finish,
so
there's
no
character
to
the
stucco
at
all.
You
can
correct
me
from
wrong,
but
you
know
when
I
get
it,
I
you
know
again.
H
If
this
house
looked
like
that,
what
used
to
be
a
church
and
was
very
ornate
and
had
unique,
incredible
character,
I
would
sit
there
and
say
we
have
to
save
this
home
I'd
be
fighting
her
saying.
No,
no!
No!
I
won't
show
up
today.
You
know
what
I
mean
to
represent
my
company
and
my
partners,
but
I
mean
that's
just
it's
sad.
It
is
just
a
reality
and
as
far
as
other
people
doing
it,
they
bought
the
house
knowing
that
they
were
going
to
invest.
H
This
is
her
family
home
and
you
know
it
wasn't
ignored
and
if,
for
four
years,
if
it
wasn't
being
renovated,
I
know
she
had
they
had
the
electricity
on
and
people
checked
on
the
house,
but
they
couldn't
see
what
the
the
the
tremendous
amount
of
damage
that
was
happening
constantly
without
knowledge
did
I,
okay,
oh
fema.
Fema
only
allows
you
to
insure
a
home
to
000.
That's
the
cap.
I
live
in
crystal
beach.
I
live
in
a
very
nice
neighborhood.
H
The
houses
go
for
millions
of
dollars,
but
their
femur
insurance
can
only
go
up
to
250
000
now,
but
my
house
is
16
feet
in
the
air
and
my
house
will
be
in
toledo
before
I
actually
get
water
16
feet
up
out
on
crystal
beach.
So
that's
why
my
insurance?
L
E
L
Have
no
intention
of
selling
look
to
the
home
to
the
property?
It's
when
you
say
earlier,
and
I
I
completely.
I
respect
your
position
that
you
want
for
that
to
stay
intact.
That's
the
history!
That's
that's
the
history
of
the
bayou,
but
the
fact
is
I
maybe
not.
L
Everyone
here
believes
in
climate
change,
but
I
do-
and
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
me-
being
able
to
maintain
this
home
at
its
current
state,
and
the
fact
is
that
the
the
mold
that
that
ma'am,
you
haven't
seen
pictures
of-
but
that
was
very
clearly
depicted,
even
just
verbally
in
the
report
from
servpro
that
we
have
a
mold
issue.
L
L
Is
the
problem
with
history,
repeating
itself
I'm
going
to
have
this
problem
again
with
the
house
staying
with
the
house
in
this
condition.
I
have
to
learn
from
my
history
with
that
house
and
I
have
to
be
able
to
move
on.
So
I
apologize
and
I
don't
mean
it's
not
my
intent
to
to
argue
your
position.
I
mean,
I
guess
really.
It
is
that's
what
we're
here
for,
but
it's
I.
I
cannot
allow
history
to
continue
to
repeat
itself
with
this
house.
G
And
just
thank
you
for
answering
those
questions
and
just
getting
back
then
to
mr
marzinski's
question.
So
what
I
heard
from
that
and
remember
and
just
remind
the
applicant,
this
board
has
absolutely
no
purview
of
the
interior
that
previews
the
exterior
of
the
structure
and
how
it
looks
so
of
all
that
that
you
described
what
hit
where
you
guys
are.
Was
the
floors
have
to
come
up,
so
the
roof
has
to
come
up
and
the
walls
have
to
be
raised.
That's
where
now
this
board
is
involved.
G
Okay,
so
so
I
heard
that
there
might
be
to
answer
your
question
if
you
raised
it
to
meat
flood
to
10
feet,
you
know
we're
talking
about
seven
about
six
feet
actually
near
because
they
don't
have
to
meet
free
board.
G
New
construction
would
have
to
be
11
feet.
This
is
exempt
from
fema,
so
they
could
go
to
for
insurance
purposes.
G
G
F
G
Obviously
it
would
be
higher
in
here
so
yeah,
your
your
structure
or
your
architectural
integrity
is,
is
getting
lost
in
that
mix.
Are
there
options
to
put
something
or
add
something
in
the
back
and
somehow
retain
the
front
view
as
maybe
non-living
space,
or
you
know
I
I
don't
know
that
might
get
too
complicated.
There's
all
kinds
of
things
you
could
consider
we
just
haven't
had
you
know
the
proposal
that
shows
us
what
what
possibly
could
be
done,
but
we
do
have
additional
testimony
about
what
would
happen.
I.
H
G
Sure
it
was
feasible
to
even
raise
the
walls.
I
don't
know
what
the
foundation
is
like
you
know,
so
so
mr
fabiano
was
saying
they
did.
Look
at
that
and
analyze
it
would
be
very
expensive
could
be
done.
So
that
tells
me
it
can
be
done,
but
it
sounds
like
she
like,
like
you,
want
to
be
out
of
the
flood
zone,
to
raise
it
enough
to
provide
the
ventilation.
The
less
than
three
feet
might
still
retain
stroke.
G
The
architectural
integrity
to
raise
it
six
or
seven
feet
is,
I
would
say
I
don't
know
I
would
lean
toward
it.
Probably
isn't
you
know
there
are
methods
in
our
design
guidelines
for
landscaping
re-sloping.
I.
G
Filling
the
property
that
high,
but
you
could
add
some
fill
to
soften
that
elevation.
There
might
be
some
options
there,
but
those
have
not
been
analyzed.
A
Yes,
I've
got
one
one
thing
I
just
want
to
put
out:
if
a
if
it
comes
before
the
board
or
a
regular
house,
another
house
in
one
of
the
streets
say
hey:
I
want
to
bring
it
up
to
code,
bring
it
up
to
code
and
stuff
like
that.
They
would
have
to
come
before
this
board
for
them
to
raise
it
up.
Let's
say
eight
inches
or
eight
foot
am
I.
G
A
C
A
Another
thing
is
concrete:
ranch-style
houses
are
all
concrete,
slabs,
okay,
every
one
of
them
that
I
remember
I
would
I
was
raised
in
this
area.
Okay,
they're,
all
concrete
slabs.
I
was
surprised
that
this
one
was
wood.
You
know
it
really
was.
A
B
H
G
H
Yes,
okay,
so
I
don't
want
to
say
that
approve
it
with
the
condition
of
that,
but
knowing
that
the
other
thing
too
is
is
that
it
was
my
mentality
as
a
designer
to
set
the
bill,
because
the
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
it's
an
extremely
long
right,
so
the
house
could
be
set
back
literally.
The
front
of
the
new
house
could
be
the
back
of
the
old
house
which
would
lighten
the
load.
H
It
would
give
two
things
one
give
the
family
what
they
need
to
have
to
to
be
able
to
maintain
the
the
ownership
of
the
property
financially
and
set
it
back
far
enough
and
then
put
landscape
restrictions
that
it
would
actually
enhance,
as
opposed
to
be
detrimental,
and
that
would
put
you
in
a
much
better
position
in
a
comfort
level.
C
Just
a
little
bit
about
the
construction,
I'm
looking
at
the
photo
of
the
front
with
the
front
porch
little
deck
there,
so
that
deck
is
even
with
the
floor.
Whatever
is
left
of
the
floor
of
the
house,
so
it
looks
like
we're
you
you
mentioned
earlier.
You
said
one
by
twelve,
but
you
probably
meant
two
by
twelve
floor
joists.
Oh.
H
H
C
Much
with
the
floor
did
you
say
there
was
I
I
remember
you
saying
nine
inches.
Is
it
nine
inches
from
the
bottom
of
the
floor
joists
to
the
ground,
bailey.
H
Yes,
it
depends
on
where
you
are
in
the
house
structure
and
that's
the
huge
that's
the
biggest
problem.
I
mean
as
design
professionals
and
I
represent
my
office.
We
have
to
build
to
proper
and
professional
standards.
We
can't
just
sit
there
and
go
oh
well.
You
know
nine
inches
didn't
work,
so
let's
go
11..
We
know
that
the
proper
spacing
and
proper
ventilation.
So
that
doesn't
happen
in
to
pat
talking
about
changing
grades
or
someone
mentioned
aging
grades.
That
is
a
great
idea.
H
The
problem
is,
is
that
the
lot
is
only,
I
think,
50
feet
wide
and
the
adjacent
properties
are
only
eight
or
ten
feet
away.
When
we
go
to
pull
a
building
permit,
they
won't
allow
us
to
to
drain
into
adjacent
properties,
it'll
be
virtually
impossible
to
raise
up
any
of
that
soil
at
all,
because
they'll
go
no.
No!
No,
mr
mrs
smith,
on
either
side
do
not
want
to
have
your
rain
water
coming
onto
their
property
because,
as
it
is,
they
have
a
drainage
problem.
H
C
I
I
actually
live
just
a
few
blocks
from
here
and,
and
my
house
is
on
a
slab
and
I
personally
chose
to
fix
it.
Instead
of
tearing
it
down
and
to
speak
to
bill's
question
about
a
wooden
floor,
the
house
actually
behind
me
is
a
black
house
and
it
is
raised
up
about
as
much
as
this
one
is
and
it
does
have
a
wooden
floor,
but
what
they
did.
They
also
chose
to
renovate
that
house
and
not
tear
it
down.
C
C
And
frankly,
it's
been,
it
was
very
successful.
They
did
it
a
few
years
ago
and
we
we
get
water.
Just
like
you
know,
right
on
the
bayou,
we're
not
right
on
the
bayou,
but
we
get
we
get
water.
C
F
C
C
L
Okay,
so
I
thought
part
of
what
we
were
going
to
try
to
depict
today
was
the
economic
impact
of
this,
and
so,
while
you
may
have
renovation
renovated
buildings
that
were
in
worse
shape
and
this
other
neighbor
of
yours
may
have
renovated
successfully,
I
think
what
we're
the
in
entirety,
what
we're
trying
to
depict
is
is-
and
I
realize
that
the
board's
concern
is
the
exterior,
but
what
we
would
have
to
do
to
get
this
house
in
any
sort
of
viable
condition.
L
I
thought
we
were
trying
to
depict
the
economic
side
of
it
and
if
we
have
failed
to
do
that,
then
that's
one
thing,
but
to
to
continue
to
make
the
suggestions
that
we
could
do
this
or
we
could
do
this
yeah.
L
There
are
plenty
of
things
that
we
could
do,
but
there's
an
economic
issue
here
for
me
to
do
the
thing
to
do
all
of
these
suggestions,
and
not
just
subjectively
but
objectively
from
the
appraiser
standpoint,
that
the
investment
to
restore
rehabilitate
this
home
is
not
going
to
get
the
return,
which
I
thought
was
part
of
what
we
were
trying
to
depict
here.
E
All
right
you
won't
like
it
anyway.
I
make
a
motion
for
application.
21
161.!
Oh
that's
not!
It
excuse
me
for
21
87.
A
C
B
F
B
B
B
C
A
I
E
I
B
A
H
B
I
couldn't
hear
you
I'm
sorry,
okay
and
you
could
do
pat
was
just
mentioning
that
you
could
defer
to
a
future
deadline,
bring
more
information
back
like
that,
so
they
could
see
it
at
that
point.
But
again,
demolition
has
certain
criteria.
Building
has
a
different
criteria
right,
so
they're,
two
different
things:
we,
you
know
you
could
discuss
them,
but
the
criteria
and
the
facts
presented
and
the
criteria
that
you
need
to
apply
them
to
for
demolition
are
found
in
one.
You
know
one
part
of
your
code.
G
B
H
It
would
not
be
in
any
way
shape
or
form
prudent
to
tear
something
down,
and
you
guys
never
let
them
build
anything
else
on
it
because
it
doesn't
work.
So
I
think,
a
possible
continuance
and
then
we
could
work
with
pat
on
a
structure
that
could
be
presented,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
believe
the
robert's
rules
and
the
rules
are
that
everything's,
based
on
evidence
presented
only
right.
H
L
I
don't
think
you're
out
of
turn.
I
understand
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
achieve,
but
I
was.
I
was
very
impressed
and
grateful
to
see
that,
even
though
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
you
want
to
do
and
and
including
the
explanation
that
you
gave
right
right
before
we
started
to
interject
the
fact
that
you're
still
willing
to
deliberate.
A
C
L
C
C
C
B
A
A
E
B
If
you,
if
you
approve
it,
they
can
do
the
demolition,
and
at
some
point
I
assume
we'll
be
back
before
the
board
talking
about
the
next
structure
they
want
to
build.
If
you
deny
the
application,
she
can
appeal
that
decision.
She
can
come
back
and
try
again
she
could
give
up
and
move
out
of
town.
You
know,
there's
all
kinds
of.
A
F
C
I
know
I
seconded
the
demolition,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
it,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
proving.
B
A
C
A
Here
I
think,
there's
more
options.
It
can
be
checked
into
I'm,
I'm
not
totally
con
convinced
about.
The
only
way
to
go
is
to
tear
up
the
floor
and
raise
the
floor.
Okay,
I'm
not!
Okay.
Like
I
say
I
was
watching
a
house
being
built
just
a
little
while
ago,
and
they
put
the
foundations
the
bricks
and
laid
in
the.
A
E
C
F
H
B
A
A
A
B
Thank
you.
I
think
procedure
set
out
for
it.
So
petkin,
that's
just
telling.
Does
it
it's
in
this,
the
ordinance
the
procedure
for
appeal?
If
that's
what
you're
asking,
I
couldn't
quite
hear
you,
but
if
you're
asking
about
the
appellate
procedure,
it's
in
the
ordinance
it'll
set
out
what
you
need
to
do.
Okay,.
E
E
G
F
G
Yeah
we
have
a
new
principal
planner
on
board:
caroline
lanford.
I
just
wanted
her
to.
G
Going
to
be
getting
involved
in
historic
things
in
the
city
and
she's
already
very
involved,
so.
G
Thanks
and
we'll
we'll
hear
more
about
those
we
are
going
to
have
we've
contracted
at
the
university
of
florida
for
our
adaptation
and
resiliency
project
for
the
historic
district.
G
F
G
You
before
this
board
and
coordinating
with
with
all
the
residents,
especially
those
in
the
district,
so
I'll,
be
sending
you
some
emails
too
in
the
meantime
about
what's
going
on,
but
we'll
be
hearing
about
that
in
january.
So
that'll
be
very
exciting
and
fun
to
work.