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A
A
Okay
before
you
before
we
get
started,
is
there
any
public
comments?
A
D
Yes,
thank
you
good
afternoon,
good
evening.
This
is
akwa.
You
did
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
heritage
preservation
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
a
law
that
has
that
has
already
been
established
and
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
D
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
to
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
D
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
defined
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
At
this
time.
D
D
D
A
D
A
F
F
F
F
And
here's
just
some
photographs
I
took
of
the
property
now
this
is
from
the
lemon
street
front
adjacent
to
the
subject.
Property
is
currently
used
as
a
parking
lot,
so
it
does
have
a
practical
frontage
on
levis
because
there's
no
structures
there
and
again
I'd
like
to
remind
you
that
we
are
driven
by
our
review
standards
in
the
code
and
our
design
review
guidelines
manual.
F
We
we
don't
say
what
we
like
or
what
makes
us
happy.
We
go
by
those
criteria
and
I
think
most
important
for
this
case,
because
it's
a
non-contributing
structure,
it's
really
just
does
it
meet
the
code
and
does
it
meet
the
design
guide?
F
The
design
review
guideline
manual
particularly
guideline
86,
sign
placement,
so
the
the
new
signage
shall
be
located
in
the
flat
unadorned
parts
of
the
facade,
such
as
the
horizontal
band
between
the.
G
F
What
that,
and
here
in
the
the
presentation,
is
just
the
more
detailed
sign
code
in
my
recommendations,
I've
stated
that
the
sign
shall
be
constructed
and
operated
consistent
with
the
requirements
of
article
11,
with
special
attention
to
section
186.01
of
the
land
development
code,
which
really
just
gets
into
how
the
illumination
of
the
sign
and
how
illuminated
it
can
be.
F
F
And
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
sign
with
the
conditions
that
it
will
be
constructed
and
operated
within
the
guidelines
of
the
code
and
the
certificate
of
approval
will
expire
in
three
years
if
a
building
permit
has
not
been
issued
for
the
project
and
with
that
any
questions
for
me.
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A
B
A
A
A
F
F
F
This
is
the
proposed
project,
it's
not
to
scale
but
that
orange
box-
oh
I'm
sorry,
the
little
turquoise
box
is,
is
showing
you
where
the
proposed
shed.
No
I'm
sorry,
it
is
the
orange
box
that
is
showing
you
where
the
shed
would
be.
F
F
F
F
I
want
to
stick
here
for
a
minute
so
for
new
construction
consistency,
as
stated
it's
going
to
it's,
you
know
a
rather
large
property,
so
160
foot
square
foot
shed
is
clearly
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure
and
even
the
garage
it's
similar
in
style
and
materials.
It's
the
subject
property
with
some
architectural
details
that
make
it
fit
in
even
better,
as
I
stated
it
would
be
visible
from
orange
street,
but
partially
screened
by
some
landscaped
features.
F
So,
with
regard
to
the
neighborhood
district
in
con
context,
you
know
this
is
the
heart
of
our
historic
district.
It's
the
the
jacob
justin
house,
it's
important
because
you
know
jacob
justin
was
the
brother
of
the
founder
of
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
and
an
important
figure
in
the
history
of
tarpon
springs
in
florida.
For
that
matter,
because
of
his
backing
of
the
florida
power
corporation,
those
brothers
brought
power
to
tarpon
springs.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
shed
fixes
the
context.
F
But,
as
I
stated,
the
similarity
of
materials,
the
proposed
color
to
blend
in
with
the
existing
structures
and
the
custom
doors,
really
seem
to
meet
that.
That
criteria
again
the
size
massing
in
shape
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure,
and
the
important
thing
is-
is
that
doing
this
could
very
easily
be
undone,
there's
nothing
that
it's
going
to
do
to
the
property
that
can't
be
undone.
F
So
these
pre
fabricated
sheds
are
allowed
in
the
historic
district
so
with
that
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
application
and
that
it
will,
with
the
condition
that
it
will
expire
within
three
years
if
a
building
permit
is
not
issued.
E
All
right,
michelle
ryan,
36
north
spring
boulevard.
I
want
to
refer
this
more
as
a
studio.
It's
actually
going
to
be
an
art
space.
It's
not
going
to
be
used
for
housing.
My
extra
stuff
I
have.
I
do
a
lot
of
artwork
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
need
a
space
that
is
kind
of
cordoned
off
from
the
house.
So
I'm
kind
of
gonna
make
it
look
more
blended
to
where
it
almost
looks.
E
Like
a
pool
house
studio,
it
will
actually
block
all
of
my
pool
equipment
and
all
of
my
bike
storage.
So
I'm
doing
everybody
a
favor
by
blocking
that
off,
but
we're
going
to
match
the
colors
to
the
house.
The
trim
color
will
be
the
green.
Like
the
house,
the
body
will
be
the
tan
and
then
I'm
actually
going
to
put
the
exact
same
or
similar
doors.
The
patio
doors
like
what
you
saw
just
a
one
light
door
double
doors
on
this
on
the
structure.
E
So
it's
not
going
to
have
shed
doors
per
se
other
than
that
we
landscape
the
house
pretty
well
the
piece:
that's
there
now
is
a
raised
bed
garden
and
that
piece
will
move
to
the
end,
so
it'll
kind
of
blend
in
with
the
with
the
property,
my
neighbors
won't
be
able
to
hardly
see
it
either
we
have
trees
and
such
blocking
that
side.
So
I
think
that
it'll
fit
in
really
nicely
questions.
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A
C
C
E
B
A
A
F
All
right,
so
this
is
application
2223
anthony
price
for
439
east
lemon
street.
It's
a
frame
vernacular
contributing
altered
structure
located
just
west
of
the
non-contributing
property
that
we
were
looking
at
earlier.
F
F
And
here
is
the
proposed
project
from
the
applicant:
it's
replacing
five
windows.
F
And
just
wanted
to
remind
you
of
the
relevant
code
for
this.
This.
This
property
is
located
in
the
tb4b
residential
plus
industrial
office,
so
parking
shall
be
accessed
by
rear
alleys
or
rear
lanes
when
such
are
available.
So
that
is
in
our
code.
The
alley
is
available,
so
the
driveway
and
the
parking
should
be
located
off.
Of
that.
F
F
So
the
next
one
would
be
the
neighborhood
and
district
context,
and
the
proposal
for
the
new
driveway
would
change
the
relationship
of
the
property
to
the
open
space
between
it
and
the
street.
The
proposed
connection
of
the
front
driveway
would
alter
the
historic
alley
access
of
the
parcel
and
use
a
portion
of
the
front
yard
for
parking.
While
this
structure
is
designated
contributing
altered,
the
building
form,
massing
and
relationship
to
the
street
is
consistent
with
the
historic
context
of
the
area.
F
However,
alternative
parking
areas
must
be
available,
so
vehicles
do
not
bla
block
or
detract
from
the
historic
facade
and
no
alternative
parking
area
is
proposed
in
this
project.
Currently,
additionally,
the
manual
states
that
converting
front
yards
to
parking
area
and
locating
driveways
in
the
front
or
side
yard
when
there's
an
alley
at
the
rear
of
the
property
is
not
appropriate.
F
So
so
we
have
not
only
from
our
manual
but
from
our
code
stating
that
the
access
should
come
from
the
rear.
F
Next,
with
the
roof
shape
and
texture
now,
the
1913
sandboard
map
indicates
that
the
original
structure
had
a
shingle
roof,
as
does
the
existing
structure
and
the
two
neighboring
structures.
However,
there's
many
similar
frame
vernacular
houses
in
tarpon
springs
that
have
metal,
roofs
and
shingle
roof,
isn't
really
a
distinguishing
factor
of
this
architectural
style.
F
So,
while
it's
not
original,
I
would
say
that
it's
appropriate
because
it
would
it's
matching
similar
buildings
of
the
style.
F
F
F
It's
it's
similar
style
as
similar
things
in
the
vicinity,
so
on
that
the
window,
fence
and
roof
components
of
the
project
meet
the
requirements
of
the
city's
land
development
code
and
are
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
F
F
So
those
are
just
all
those
different
things
I
just
ran
through.
So
again,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
replacing
five
windows,
the
fence
and
the
roof,
with
the
following
condition
that
the
certificate
of
approval
will
expire
in
three
years.
If
a
building
permit
has
not
been
issued
and
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
portion
of
the
application
that
is
related
to
the
new
driveway.
C
G
So
tonight
you
are
looking
at
this
from
historic
heritage
preservation
standards,
so
your
guidelines
and
one
of
your
review
criteria
is
conformance
with
the
land
development
code.
G
The
applicant
still
needs
to
comply
with
the
transect,
the
zoning
code.
So
even
if
you
approve
this
tonight,
that
will
still
be
an
issue
that
will
be
decided
by
the
the
planning
department,
great.
G
G
But
you
know
you
would
you
if
you
do
approve
it,
you
would
be
designed,
oh
approving
the
material
and
all
that
stuff
too.
So
if
it
were
to
be
allowable,
he
would
have
that
approval
of
of
the
design.
F
E
F
Yes,
and
that
the
district
that
it's
in
is
residential
industrial
in
office.
F
There
are
some
home
offices
over
there
and
then
across
the
street.
It's
a
mix
of
office,
the
there's
a
lodge
there.
You
know
it's
a
mix
of
uses,
so
it's
one
of
those.
It's
a
very
mixed
area.
B
D
H
This
is
my
proposed
office
for
my
business,
and
you
know
the
alleyway
would
be
great
if
the
alleyway
was
taken
care
of.
You
can't
bring
a
car
down
that
alleyway
period.
There's
potholes
trees,
hanging
over
industrial
vehicles
coming
from
zootses.
Coming
that
way,
my
neighbor
it's
you
can't
bring
cars
down
in
there.
I
have
a
big
truck.
I
can
bring
it
no
problem.
H
H
Does
you
know
it's
if
you
know
I'm
proposing
an
office
there,
which
is
not
part
of
the
heritage,
it's
part
of
another
permit,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
maybe
park
up
front,
not
have
contos
trucks
parked
in
front
lantauka's
trucks
parked
in
front
good
friday.
Trucks
parked
in
front
to
where
you
could
have
a
parking
space,
because
the
alleyway
is
non-lit
dangerous,
our
places.
H
It's
we're
cleaning
it
up
slowly
because
of
code
issues
with
the
area
we
have
our
self
fence.
You
saw
the
picture
but
to
bring
like
say
a
car
in
there
with
my
wife
and
my
two
kids
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
in
that
way.
H
So
it
would
that's
why
we're
looking
for
the
driveway
to
be
able
to
maybe
bring
a
car
in
my
office
manager
come
in
park
there.
We
would
take
care
of
all
expenses
of
making
the
driveway
cutting
it
in
and
we
would
only
lose
one
space
out
front,
but
that
space,
I
would
figure,
would
be
for
us
anyways
like
if
I
was
working
or
living
in
the
house.
I
would
park
my
vehicle
right
there,
but
we
don't
ever
have
a
space
there
because
there's
always
a
construction
vehicle
there.
H
Do
your
business
and
then
leave
and
know
you
have
a
spot
as
far
as
the
driveway
goes,
the
fencing
and
things
like
that,
we
we
want
to
keep
the
house
heritage.
We
love
tarpon
springs!
That's
where
we,
my
wife,
has
a
business
here.
I
have
a
business.
We
all
went
to
tarpon
high
school
elementary
middle.
H
A
G
Okay,
so
this
is
a
public
alley
as
far
as
tree
trimming
under
city
code
that
is
supposed
to
be
taken
care
of
by
the
adjacent
property
owners,
the
as
far
as
the
condition
and
the
status
of
the
alley.
That
would
be
a
question
for
public
works.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
caroline's
driven
it.
I've
driven
it.
If
there
is
a
you
know
that
there
is.
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
plan
to
pave
this
alley.
G
I
don't
know
if
yours
is
paved
at
this
point
or
if
there's
been
any
requests
filed
for
maintenance
or
improvement
to
this
alley.
We
can
certainly
look
into
that,
but
you
know
that
I
mean
some
of
the
alleys
are
improved
more
than
others
in
the
city,
they're
in
all
different
different
condition.
B
H
H
H
To
drive
down
there
because
everything's,
so
I
trim
it
up,
nobody
cares.
I
trim
it
up.
I
keep
it
off
of
my
things
and
I
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
I
feel
like
one
parking
space
when
everybody
on
my
same
side
of
the
street
has
a
driveway
right,
but
me
I
mean
it's
not
like
I'm
saying
everybody,
nobody
has
a
driveway
and
I'm
asking
for
one.
H
H
C
Can
I
ask
you
a
question
so
you
were
looking
at
this
and
we
haven't
even
talked
about
windows
or
fences,
yet
it's
basically
a
parking
pad.
So
it
looks
like
it's
12
feet
by
28
or
something
like
that.
C
Well-
and
that
was
the
next
question
I
was
going
to
have
about
the
fencing,
were
you
going
to
do
any
sort
of
gait
or
anything
or
or
just
have
an
opening.
H
So
my
wife
was
there
recently
and
we
were
talking
about
the
fencing
we
love
and
we
can
do
picket
fencing
up
front
too
to
keep
it
we're
the
only
one
with
a
picket
fencing.
Nobody
on
that
street
has
picket
fencing.
Nobody
even
has
a
fence
up
front,
so
you
know
we'll
we
can
do
the
picket
fencing
the
board
on
board.
H
H
We
want
to
make
everybody
happy
there
and
because
they're
our
neighbors,
but
we
can
do
whatever
we
need
with
the
fence
because
the
the
house,
in
all
honesty,
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
pictures,
the
house
is
historic,
but
there's
been
so
many
things
done
to
the
house
that
it
has
zero
resemblance
of
a
historic
house
anymore,
and
I
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
tear
the
house
down
or
do
anything
with
it.
We
want
to
make
it
like
our
place.
H
We
have
our
our
business,
there
make
it
beautiful
again
the
luntacus
across
the
street.
I
went
and
talked
to
them,
and
they
were
so
happy
that
it
was
no
longer
a
trap
house,
because
there
were
so
many
drugs
and
things
happening
in
the
house
prior
to
us,
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
beautiful
as
we
can
and
we'll
with
the
fencing
we
can
do
whatever
you
guys
need,
but
from
the
beginning,
when
we
started
with
the
place
in
patricia
will
attest
to
this,
we
have
tons
of
emails
back
and
forth.
H
Probably
over
a
year
now,
we've
really
the
driveway
was
big
key
for
us
to
try
and
keep
with
the
street
and
access
and
keep
everybody
safe.
That's
there
at
night.
C
I
have
another
question,
I
I
have
another
question,
but
it's
not
for
you.
Actually,
I
meant
to
ask
staff.
C
If
it's
over
50
feet,
it
has
to
have
some
sort
of
design
breaks
or
some
sort
of
visual
break,
so
it
doesn't
look
like
a
massive
180
foot
long
wall.
I
know
about
that
because
I
had
to
do
it
with
my
fence.
I
was
just
over
50
feet
that
I
I
had
to
do
the
architectural
break.
Does
that
apply
here
in
this
zoning
district
or
in
under
our
ordinances.
G
Yeah,
if
you
look
at
your
guidelines-
and
I
forget
which
one
it
is,
if
it's
a
board
on
board
or
a
picket,
that
that's
considered
variable
enough,
what
it
specifies
is,
if
it's
a
foot,
you
can't
have
a
flat
plane,
that's
not
broken
up.
H
C
A
C
Anymore,
no,
we
have
to
make
a
motion
before
we
can
discuss
anything.
That's
right.
A
Yeah,
let
us
we
have
have
to
check
on
public
first,
of
course,
no
public
here.
Oh
so
yeah
you
can
rebut.
F
F
The
applicant
also
noted
that
his
neighbors
had
driveways
and
they
do
the
sins
of
the
father.
You
know
I
those
maybe
when
they
went
in
the
regulations
weren't
in
place.
F
F
I
sympathize
with
the
screws
and
the
tire
and
your
tires
because
you're
in
a
mixed
use
area-
and
that
is
a
neighbor
problem
that
needs
to
be
addressed
but
isn't
relevant
to
the
what
we're
looking
at
here.
F
Additionally,
I
didn't-
I
didn't
take
this
into
account
in
my
analysis,
and
I
see
that
that
was
lacking,
you'd
be
losing
an
off
street
in
an
on-street
parking
space.
So
that's
a
public
asset
that
we
would
be
losing
and
while
not
irreversible,
try
and
take
a
driveway
away
from
somebody
once
they
have
it.
F
And
with
respect
to
the
fencing,
if
fencing,
if
changes,
if
you
guys
want
to
make
changes
to
that,
we'll
see
if
we
can
do
it
through
conditions,
but
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
what
what
has
been
proposed.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
of
that.
A
C
Yeah
you
mentioned
it
was
going
to
be
your
business,
so
you're
you're
not
going
to
be
living
there
I
mean
maybe
you'd
stay
overnight
or
something,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
a
resident.
Is
this
business
going
to
be
open
to
the
public
where
you
would
have
customers
coming
to
you.
H
H
No,
I
build
docks
seawalls,
so
it's
pretty
much
just
for
my
office.
Okay,
stop
it
and
for
storage.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
E
A
E
E
D
E
A
E
The
reason
I
would
I
would
propose
it
that
way
is
because
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
the
real
world
is
you
can't
get
parking
on
that
end
and
kantos
roofing
takes
up
everything
in
that
section.
So
if
he
wants
to
have
a
customer
or
somebody
that
works
there,
there's
no
place
to
park
unless
they
go
down
a
dirt
alley
and
his
customers
would
have
to
go
down
a
dirt
alley
or
compete
with
cantos
and
the
other
buildings
to
get
there
and
only
reason.
E
I
know
this
is
because
I
just
had
contests
do
my
roof
and
I
had
to
make
visits
down
there
and
I
had
to
park
down
there
because
there's
his
trucks
literally
litter
most
of
the
road.
G
E
It's
it's
an
issue
for
his
business
number
one.
His
neighbors
do
have
driveways
whether
it
was
it
was
approved
at
some
point
he
got
a
variance,
we're
just
looking
to
keep
it
historic.
He
could
make
a
driveway
look
historic.
We
could
do
pavers,
I
mean
he
didn't,
dress
it
up
a
landscape.
There
there's
nothing
that
will
make
that
look
terrible
by
having
a
a
parking
spot
when
his
neighbors
all
have
that
as
well.
C
And
I
think
I
was
looking
at
it
as
sort
of
a
safety
issue
too
going
around
that
back
dirt
alley.
That's
not
lit
and
yeah.
Maybe
you
can't,
I
haven't
been
there,
but
perhaps
you
can
drive
in
and
out
of
it,
and
I
think
there
would
be
an
issue
if
there
were
anyone
coming
to
his
business
to
drop
anything
off
or
pick
anything
up.
C
C
But
it's
not
lit
apparently
and.
E
G
C
Will
bring
some
paving
every
couple
of
months,
but
I
think
I
think
that's
it
absolutely
forever
to
have
the
city
come
out
and
pave
that
alley
understood.
E
C
A
C
C
A
G
A
A
A
A
No
staff
comments
board
members.
F
A
F
Have
some
staff
comments?
So,
as
you
know,
we,
the
city
is
updating
its
comprehensive
plan
which
guides
the
future
development
of
the
entire
city.
So
it
hasn't
really
been
fully
redone
since
2008.
F
So
we
are
working
on
the
comprehensive
plan
update
so
probably
at
your
next
meeting
or
we
may
have
to
schedule
a
special
meeting
we'll
be
having
a
a
board
workshop
on
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
F
Part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
is
the
historic
preservation
of
it.
A
F
F
I
mean,
could
five
maybe
work.
Thirty.
C
A
F
Okay,
well,
we
will
take
that
in
august
and
regroup,
yeah,
okay,.
E
Yeah,
I
will
not
make
that
meeting
on
the
11th
I'm
in
oregon.