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A
It's
6
30.
I'm,
calling
this
meeting
to
order
for
the
net
historic
historical
preservation
board.
Okay,
can
we
have
a
roll
call,
please
Mr.
A
A
A
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
public
public
comments.
Now
the
public
comments
right
now
is
General.
Okay,
it's
not
for
a
case.
That's
coming
up
or
an
application.
You'll
have
time
to
you'll,
have
a
chance
during
that
time
for
public
comments.
So
do
I.
Have
any
general
public
comments
now
hearing?
None?
Will
you
continue?
A
We
have
no
meetings
to
no
minutes
to
meetings
to
prove
approved,
so
we're
going
right
into
quasi-judicial
and
you'll.
Explain
that.
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
the
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Heritage,
preservation,
board
our
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
The
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections.
D
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
If
the
evidence
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
by
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant
any
and
all
persons
test
of
testifying
at
this
hearing
today
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath
all
persons.
D
Testifying
must
give
their
name
address
and
must
indicate
for
the
record
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
All
testimony
and
questioning
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration,
based
on
the
criteria
established
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
The
following
is
the
established
procedure
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
First
city
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application.
Then
the
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
the
city
staff.
D
Then
the
applicant
will
have
the
opportunity
to
present
their
Witnesses
and
evidence,
and
the
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants.
Witnesses.
Then,
members
of
the
public
opposing
and
those
in
favor
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
speak,
and
then
the
applicant
may
present
any
rebuttal
testimony
and
then
the
city
May
at
and
then
the
board
will
consider
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
consideration.
So
at
this
time
everybody
who's
going
to
be
speaking
tonight.
Please
go
ahead
and
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand.
E
A
This
is
a
some
well,
it's
on
467,
Cypress
Street,
there's
about
some
wooden
decks
this,
after
effect,
if
the
staff,
if
you
give
us.
F
E
F
F
The
subject
property
is
amazingly
masonry,
vernacular
structure
that
has
been
altered,
but
it
retains
enough
historic
Integrity
to
be
considered
a
contributing
structure
in
the
local,
historic
district.
Here's
the
subject:
property
shown
on
the
1919
Sanborn
map
and
the
1926
Sanborn
map.
F
That's
a
survey
of
the
subject
property:
this
is
an
illustration
showing
the
dimensions
of
the
deck.
Really
only
a
few
of
the
standards
of
review
apply
here.
First
being
the
neighborhood
District
in
context,
as
the
heightened
width
of
the
proposed
decks
are
consistent
with
decks
found
throughout
the
historic
district.
F
It's
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
District
in
context
also
they're
going
to
be
shielded
by
fencing,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
visible
from
the
right-of-way
the
size
masking
and
shape
again
they're,
similar
to
Decks
that
are
located
throughout
the
historic
district
and
would
be
shielded
adherence
with
the
secretary's
guidelines.
F
So
your
applicable
guideline
is
guideline
19.,
really
just
requiring
that,
if
at
all
possible,
they'd
be
located
in
the
rear
yard
of
the
structure.
However,
these
decks
are
providing
access
to
two
side
doors
so
and
again,
they're
going
to
be
shielded
when
they
are
shielded
by
fencing.
G
Just
one
you
mentioned
that
there
were
some
decks
there
before,
and
these
replaced
them
same
size
was
it
just
like
they
were
bad
and
he's
just
replaced
them.
Yes,
so
so,
in
a
case
like
that,
it
does
need
to
come
in
front
of
this
commission
if
it's
just
the
same,
like
repairs.
F
Well,
the
problem
is,
is
that
there
was
no
building
permit
issued
for
it,
so
normally,
if
a
building
permit
would
be
that
would
cross.
My
desk
and
I
would
have
been
able
to
approve
it
as
staff.
E
G
F
H
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Roy
saipel
I've
been
sworn
in.
The
address
is
467
Cypress
Street
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
34689.
In
regard
to
the
two
decks,
my
first
time
to
this
property
I,
you
have
to
get
onto
the
decks
in
order
to
access
the
rear
unit
from
either
side
the
existing
deck
was
wood.
Nothing
really
changed
there.
My
first
time
going
up
those
steps.
H
H
It's
just
wood
for
wood,
it's
completely
invisible
from
the
streets
and
it
allows
access
into
the
property.
Without
it
you
can't
really
get
in
so
okay.
Yeah
thank.
A
G
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
application
2370
with
the
staff's
recommendation
regarding
the
three-year
deadline.
G
E
A
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
the
next.
This
is
a
2372,
the
continuation
of
an
old
one.
It's
on
53
West,
Tarpon
Avenue.
This
is
about
some
fireplaces
good
one
thing:
I've
Adelaide!
Is
this
a
good
time
to
say
something.
D
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
you
brought
out
some
very
good
points
on
your
written
written
report
and
I
really
like
to
bring
that
and
discuss
it
with
the
board
and
I'd,
rather
do
that,
after
all
the
applications,
you
know
when
we
have
our.
You
know
board
comments
and
stuff
like
that.
A
F
You
very
much
okay,
this
the
subject:
property,
53,
West,
Tarpon
Avenue.
It
shows
location
in
context
here.
It
is
right
now
in
the
Spring
Bayou
area,
in
the
middle
of
our
historic
National
register
District,
the
applicant
is
seeking,
in
after
the
fact,
a
certificate
of
approval
to
remove
two
historic
chimneys
and
replace
them
with
brick.
Veneer
replicas
at
this
specific
application
differs
from
I.
F
Let
me
go
through
the
history
just
briefly.
E
F
The
regular
meeting
in
July
of
2022
this
board
approved
a
a
request,
was
modified
to
replace
the
existing
roof,
with
the
condition
that
the
chimneys
not
be
altered
in
October
of
2022.
It
was
found
that
the
chimneys
had
been
destroyed,
March
2023,
they
came
back
with
a
building
application
and,
after
the
fact,
application
for
certificate
of
approval,
which
this
board
heard
at
their
regular
meeting
of
June
5th
2023.
F
Based
on
the
comments
that
they
received
at
that
last
meeting,
they
resubmitted
a
new
application,
making
some
alterations,
and
so
this
application
is
for
the
after
the
after
the
fact,
Demolition,
and
also
it's
modified,
based
on
on
the
comments
of
this
board
at
last
month's
meeting,
just
showing
the
area
on
the
1906
sandboard
map,
the
picture
from
the
Florida
Master
site
file.
F
F
We've
been
through
this
a
few
times
now
so
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna
go
too
far
into
it.
Obviously,
the
removal
of
the
chimneys
was
inappropriate.
F
This
board
determined
that
the
what
had
been
put
back
wasn't
exactly
an
exact
replica
or
even
trying
to
simulate
the
the
style
it
has
gotten
back.
Some
of
the
root
shapes
been
texture,
but
we
really
can't
unring
that
Bell.
So
in
terms
of
neighborhood
district
and
context,
it's
it's
changed.
It
doesn't
look
the
same
they're,
not
they're,
not
the
old
chimneys
anymore,
but
is
what
it
is.
F
F
And
then,
of
course,
adherence
with
the
secretary's
guidelines,
removal
shouldn't
have
happened,
we
shouldn't
put
anything,
that's
conjectural,
we
should
base
it
on
what
we
know
was
there.
The
distinctive
architectural
features
should
be
preserved
and
we
shouldn't
destroy
historic
materials.
F
Guideline
69
and
the
design
review
guideline
manual
gives
us
some
information
about
chimneys
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
This
is
a
kind
of
yellow
flag
here
of
demolition
by
neglect,
incremental
demolition
by
neglect
when
Property
Owners
neglect
pieces
of
their
property,
and
we
replace
them
a
little
bit
over
time.
F
A
I
Oh
yes,
yes,
okay,
I,
appreciate
Miss
Carolyn
in
making
that
recommendation.
I
did
I'm.
Sorry
I.
Do
this
all
the
time
I
wanted
to
bring
these
up
to
you.
I
My
son,
like
I,
said,
was
the
person
who
tried
to
save
him
and
he
said
Mom
I'll,
give
you
a
brick.
If
you
want
to
take
it
and
I
said
no,
it's
okay,
they
believe
it.
But
anyway,
so
we
did
get
a
hold
of
Mr
Hoffman.
Just
after
you
had
told
me
and
I
it
wrote.
Miss
Carolyn
I
got
a
paperwork
a
little
mixed
up,
but
she
was
kind
enough
to
help
me
out
there
and
he
designed
it
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
picture.
I
I
Also,
then
you
see
the
original
in
the
middle
there
I
did
want
you
to
notice
and
I
know
that
Miss
Kim
pointed
it
out
how
it
doesn't
carve
in,
but
Mr
Hoffman
said
that
four
inch
indent
was
not
traditional
to
that
particular
time
or
whatever,
and
so,
if
you'll
see
on
the
very
bottom
one
on
the
little
one,
you
see
how
we
added
that
you
know
another
layer,
we
didn't
do
it
yet,
but
I
mean
as
soon
as
y'all
prove
it
we'll
add
it,
and
so
it'll
look
more
pretty
much
very
close
on
the
shorter
one
to
the
original
on
the
one
beside
it,
the
one
that
had
that
indent
cut
out,
we
did
add
another
layer
if
they're
called
corbels,
corbels
I
call
them
steps,
but
anyway,
so
we
did
add
that
in
there
and
I
feel
like
after
that,
it
would
actually
pretty
much
mimic
the
appearance
of
or
as
best
as
we
can
like.
I
The
69
says
of
the
original,
so
I'd
appreciate
y'all,
approving
this
and
letting
us
move
forward
to
to
and
we'll
send
them.
You
know,
of
course,
the
person
out
to
recreate
these
the
best
we
can
so
that
they
look
exactly.
You
know
like
the
design
here.
D
I
actually
I
do
have
one
brief
one.
Yes,
if
I
recall
correctly,
you
said
that
they
were
not
functional,
chimneys,
correct.
I
Like
we
ever
got
them
yeah
and
in
fact
the
leak
was
happening
right
there
where
they
were
not
functional.
Okay,
and
so
that's
why,
when
the
boy
well
they're,
not
boys,
the
men
were
up
there,
doing
it
and
we're
pulling
it
off
and
they
realized
in
the
paper
was
not
in
it.
We
take
full
blame.
That
said,
don't
take
these
down,
they
they
said.
Oh,
these
aren't
even
they're,
not
even
functional,
they
were
all
capped,
but
it
was
still
leaking.
So,
yes,
they
were
non-functional.
E
F
I'd
just
like
to
point
out
that,
while
the
indentation
may
not
be
representative
of
the
style
it,
it
was
there
on
that
structure.
So.
G
E
G
E
A
Any
more
okay
can
we
have
a
roll
call
vote?
Please.
A
I
A
Okay,
we're
going
with
application
23.76
same
addresses,
53
West
Tarpon,
and
this
is
the
fourth
sign
on
the
southern
side
of
the
building.
F
Yeah,
so
just
going
to
run
through
these
real
quickly,
since
it
was
the
same
structure
we
just
discussed.
So
this
is
an
not
and
after
the
fact,
Caroline
two
errors
I
apologize.
They
are.
This
is
just
a
straight
application.
I
apologize,
so
the
applicant
is
Seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
to
install
a
new
non-illuminated
wall
sign
on
the
southern
elevation
of
the
subject,
property.
F
C
F
The
same
it's
the
same
structure,
so
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
here
we
go.
This
is
something
new,
so
this
is
the
the
west
and
south
kind
of
the
southwesterly
side
of
the
building.
F
This
is
showing
where
the
sign
would
be
located.
We've
got
some
close-ups
here
that
showed
a
little
bit
better.
F
The
the
specs
on
it,
showing
you
the
typeface,
so
really
we
only
have
a
few
standards
of
review
that
apply
primarily
conformance
with
the
city
code
requirements.
F
F
It's
not
out
of
character
with
the
the
neighborhood
or
the
district
context
in
terms
of
the
secretary's
guidelines,
no
historic
materials
would
be
destroyed
or
obscured
by
the
placement
of
the
sign.
F
F
F
Just
giving
you
some
of
the
code
information
and
then
with
respect
to
section
18903,
the
allowable
area
could
be
up
to
36
feet
and
the
only
other
code
requirement
that
really
applies
is
that
it
should
not
be
installed
to
detract
from
architectural
design
or
installed
in
a
manner
that
obstructs
Windows,
Doors
or
other
types
of
fenestration.
F
So
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
application,
with
a
condition
that
will
expire
in
three
years.
If
a
building
permit
is
not
issued
and
with
that
I
can
answer
any
questions.
I.
A
J
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
the
the
time
here
in
front
of
the
board
I'm,
the
only
one
so
I
guess
I'm
on
the
show
right.
B
J
What
the
sign
will
be
made
out
of
what
we
call
a
high
density,
urethane
foam.
So
it's
a
super
high,
dense
foam
that
is
mechanically
routed
and
also
painted.
So
we
use
a
3M
vinyl
to
be
able
to
use
a
stencil
so
that
we
can
mat
the
whole
thing
while
we're
painting
the
individual
letters.
Okay,
I
do
have
some
extra
drawings
with
some
examples
of
the
sign,
if
you'd
like
to
see
it
to
get
a
better
feel
for
the
texture
and
what
it
actually
looks
like.
E
J
Out
my
name
is
Alvin.
Ramos
I
represent
Thomas
sign
and
Awning
in
reference
to
address
53
West
Tarpon
Avenue.
Thank
you.
C
A
J
I
believe
there
are
there's
a
post
and
hinge
sign:
oh
okay,
that
was
there
previous,
but
they're
very
small
yeah.
So
this
sign
would
provide
visibility
for
any
of
the
customers
coming
into
the
main
parking
area
which
I
believe
is
behind
the
building.
There
are
five
parking
spots
and
one
handicap
sign
or
our
handicap
spot
back.
There.
E
A
A
G
A
B
G
A
phone
call
that
comes
in
and
and
frankly,
I
have
called
code
enforcement
a
few
times
and
the
first
question
they
ask
is:
are
you
willing
to
leave
your
name
and
number
and
I
always
say
yeah
and
I
said
what,
if
I,
don't,
then
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
so
like?
What's
up
with
that?
That's.
D
Actually
required
by
State
Statute
that
law
changed
either
last
year
or
the
year
before,
and
provided
that
cities
and
counties
can
no
longer
accept
anonymous
tips
for
code
enforcement
that
you
have
to
be
willing
to
leave
your
name
and
number
and
contact
information
and
be
willing
to
appear
to
testify.
If
the
city
should
call
you
for
code.
F
J
D
Some
of
it
depends
on
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
be
visible
for
from
the
street
right,
because
your
code
enforcement
and
your
city
staff
is
subject
to
Fourth
Amendment
requirements
in
terms
of
going
on
somebody's
property.
So
they
don't
always
have
that
opportunity
to
do
more
thorough
investigations
unless
there
is
a
neighbor
who's
willing
to
help
or
let
them
see
from
their
property,
or
sometimes
things
like
that.
It
just
really
depends
on
the
circumstances
around
that
particular
property
and.
G
I
understand
that
and
I'm
just
going
to
ask
again
what,
if
it
is
obvious
from
the
street
okay,
where
no
one
has
to
go
on
the
property,
my
main
question
is:
is
there
anybody
driving
around
and
looking
or
or
does
the
only
way
anyone
at
the
city
knows
anything
about
a
property
is
if
someone
calls
and
is
willing
to
leave
their
name
and
number
otherwise?
Is
it
just
dead
I
mean?
Do
you
know
where
I'm
going.
D
So
when
you
are
in
a
complaint
based
system
because
I
know
we're
not
picking
on
you,
people
are
complaining
about
the
condition
of
of
your
property,
but
I
do
know
that
you
have
a
very
active
code
enforcement.
You
know
you
guys
have
full
agendas
on
that
board.
There's
a
wide
array
of
different
complaints
and
things
that
move
through
there,
and
so
some
like
the
one
that
we
saw
tonight
avoided
going
through
code
enforcement.
By
coming
to
you
and
that's
really
what
you
want.
D
That's
the
you
want
them
to
follow
that
process
and
avoid
the
code
enforcement
if
they
can
right
so
giving
them
that
opportunity
to
move
through
that
process
this
way,
but
when
you're
talking
about
just
abject
neglect
of
the
property,
to
the
point
where
you
can
see
from
the
outside
it's
falling
down.
Well,
that's
actually
part
of
what
code
enforcement
was
designed
to
do.
Code
enforcement
was
designed
to
Target
derelict
properties
and
derelict
areas
of
various
communities,
so
you
could
have
that
reinvestment
and
that
opportunity
to
revitalize.
So
that
is
actually
part.
D
Have
a
very
full
code
enforcement
agenda
so
but
I
don't
know
how
much
of
that
is
just
somebody
driving
around
or
if
it
is
complaint
based.
I
know
that
I
think
the
majority
of
the
cases
that
I
have
heard
that
it
has
been
complaint
based
because
you
may
just
have
so
many
that
you
don't
have
that
opportunity.
They
can
only
investigate
so
much
at
a
time,
and
that
can
be
something
that
we
look
at
in
terms
of
upping
code
enforcement
staff
right
now.
D
I
know
it
goes
through
your
Police
Department
and-
and
that
actually
is
very
helpful
in
terms
of
giving
them
the
opportunity
to
build
that
case,
and
then
they
can
tap
the
other
City
departments
as
they
feel
necessary.
Whether
it's
you
know
building
and
planning-
or
you
know
your
your
city
engineer
in
order
to
get
more
of
that
detailed
testimony
that
they
need.
Okay,.
G
And
that's
great
is:
is
the
code
enforcement
Department
whatever
you
want
to
call
it?
Are
they
anyone
there
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
educated.
That
sounds
bad.
Are
they
knowledgeable
of
the
historic
district
of
like
okay?
Let's
just
this,
this
chimney
business
here
code
enforcement
was
driving
by
and
they
saw
the
roof
being
fixed,
and
then
they
saw
new
chimneys,
great
okay,
they're,
not
going
to
say
anything
they're
the
wrong
chimneys.
They
didn't
know
that
I
mean
yeah
is.
G
Is
there
anything
with
code
enforcement
that
actually
knows
anything
about
historic
significance
on
buildings.
D
F
They
get
copies
of
them.
No,
but
I
will
note
that
that
our
code
enforcement
does
consult
with
Planning
and
Zoning,
not
only
on
in
historic
district,
but
on
other
matters
when
they're
unclear
as
to
what
to
do.
D
D
Knew
there
was
some
level
of
communication,
because
I
do
know
that,
sometimes,
when
you
have
those
specific
building
and
development
orders
that
they're
charged
with
enforcing
they
have
to
have
a
copy
of
it,
they
have
to
know
what
it
says
in
order
to
enforce
it.
So
there
is
some
level
of
communication
there,
but
that
particular
code
enforcement
officer
is
not
just
dedicated
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning.
They
do
all
your
code
of
ordinances.
E
D
G
D
D
So
the
goal
of
Code
Enforcement
is
never
the
stick
right.
You
have
both
the
carrot
and
the
stick
that
you
that
you
can
offer
them,
but
the
goal
is
always
the
carrot,
which
is
getting
the
property
into
compliance,
getting
the
property,
the
way
that
it's
supposed
to
be
and
there's
a
timeline
that
they
follow
and
they
give
them
the
opportunity
before
they
even
bring
them
to
the
hearing
to
bring
that
property
up
to
compliance
before
they
actually
start
the
official
proceedings.
D
So
it's
not
like
they
just
go
out,
cite
the
property
and
then
they're
before
the
board.
There
is
a
whole
process
that
has
to
be
followed
before
they
actually
even
get
before
the
board,
so
by
the
time
they
get
there.
We
know
that
there's
already
been.
You
know
a
substantial
amount
of
back
and
forth
between
that
code
enforcement
officer
and
that
they
are
given
the
information
that
they
need
to
bring
the
property
into
compliance.
D
That's
something
that
you
know
you
always
have
to
provide
them
with.
How
do
you,
how
do
I
get
this
property
so
that
it
is
not
in
violation
of
the
code
of
ordinances
anymore?
That's
really!
The
main
goal
that
you
have
to
look
at.
D
You
need
it
so
this
the
stick
actually
is
specifically
against
the
property,
because
if
they
don't
bring
the
property
into
compliance,
then
you
file
a
running
lien
on
the
property
until
it
comes
into
compliance
and
that
gets
recorded
in
the
public
records
for
Pinellas
County,
so
that
it's
there.
Everybody
knows
that
it's
there
and
it
doesn't
stop
running
until
either.
D
You
move
to
foreclose
on
it,
which
you
can
do,
because
the
the
for
a
first
time
violation,
you're,
looking
at
a
200
up
to
up
to
a
250
dollar
a
day,
fine
and
for
a
second
violation.
It
could
be
up
to
five
hundred
dollars
a
day
as
a
fine,
and
once
the
it's
been
running
for
three
months.
The
city
then
has
the
option
to
move
forward
with
a
foreclosure
on
it.
E
D
D
But
that
is
a
good
mechanism
to
address
derelict
properties.
The
question
is:
what
exactly
are
you
looking
at?
Are
you
focusing
on
rotting
wood?
Sometimes
it's
just
paint.
You
know
some.
Some
communities
have
ordinances
that
talk
about
whether
you
have
peeling
paint
on
the
front
of
your
house
and
things
like
that.
You
know
so
it
just
it
just
really
depends
on
what
it
is
they're
looking
for
and
how
strictly
your
code
board
is
going
to
enforce
it.
D
And
if
it
is
significant
enough,
where
it
looks
like
it
could
be
a
danger
to
like
surrounding
properties,
you
can
get
something.
That's
called
an
inspection
warrant
and
inspection
warrants.
You
have
to
apply
for
through
the
court
and
it's
basically
getting
a
court
order.
That
says
you
have
the
right
to
go
in
and
see
the
condition.
C
A
C
C
E
F
Mean
I
guess
that
that
was
largely
my
point
of
adding
the
slide
in
so
to
raise
a
yellow
flag
to
incremental
demolition
by
neglect
yeah.
So
in
our
code
it
says
that
you're
not
allowed
to
demolish
a
structure
just
because
a
historic
structure
just
because
you
didn't
take
care
of
it,
there's
a
whole
other
process.
You
have
to
go
through.
F
D
Does
the
city
offer
any
grants
itself
I
know
sometimes
there's
like
federal
grants
or
or
state
grants
for
preservation?
Does
the
city
have
any
like
grants
that
they
offer
to
help
maintain
some
of
the
structures
So.
F
Within
the
CRA,
if
you're
also
in
the
CRA,
there
are
some
facade
grants
available
and
things
like
that,
but
no
we
rely
on
on
state
and
federal
grants
and
those
are
limited
to
National
register
okay,
so
that
is
something
maybe
we
can
pursue.
Do.
F
F
Think
that
money's
not
bad,
but
you
know
perhaps
in
the
future
it's
something
that
we
can
maybe
get.
On
The
Board
of
Commissioners
radar
that
it's
becoming
an
issue
and.
G
Well,
and
you
you
just
say
opportunity
to
reflect-
you
must
have
some
ideas
for
a
little
bit
more
than
just
reflecting
on
this.
F
I
would
love
to
see
some
sort
of
economic
hardship
in
terms
of
you
know
seniors
with
limited
incomes.
You
know
low
incomes
folks
having
some
sort
of
fund
available
to
to
help
people
maintain
their
contributing
structures
before
they
are.
You
know,
pieces
of
them
at
least
have
to
get
taken
apart
is.
F
I
think
I
think
administering
it
locally
is,
would
be
the
best
choice
but
and
perhaps
there's
some
grants
that
we
can
pursue
for
to
to
fund
at
least
maybe
a
a
pilot
project,
or
something
for
that.
A
C
G
F
Don't
think
it
would
be
that
hard
to
do
it's
just
finding
a
time
when
we
have
the
time
I,
don't
think
it
would
even
be
I
mean
there'd,
be
an
expense
attach
to
it.
So
it
would
have
to
come
out
of
our
budget.
But
I
can
talk
with
my
director
this
and
get
back
to
you
this
month
about
a
timeline
not
for
us
doing
that,
because
I
think
it's
something
that
that
the
administration
is
also
supportive
of
so.
D
I
know
you
I
had
talked
previously
about
coming
up
for,
like
re-certification
of
your
historic
district.
Is
that.
F
Right
so
annually
we
have
to
provide
documentation
that
we're
still
in
compliance
as
a
certified
local
government.
So
we
did
that
previously
that'll
be
coming
up
this
year.
D
Okay,
I
thought
there
was
something
that
entailed
like
an
a
more
detailed
inventory
or
were
you
looking
to
expand?
Is
that
what's.
F
Coming
up
that's
coming
up
very
very
soon
we
did.
We
have
a
grant
from
the
state
to
reevaluate
our
historic
district,
so
that
would
be
looking
at
previously
recorded
structures,
but
also
structures
outside
of
our
existing,
for
instance,
the
Greektown
area.
That's
only
a
portion
of
Greektown
is
located
within
our
local
and
National
District,
but
all
of
Greektown
is
its
own
National
District.
So
we
will
be
having.
We
will
be
working
on
that
shortly.
F
Now
so,
and
and
on
that
note,
we
we
we're
a
little
bit
more
we're
pretty
far
along
with
the
Union
Academy
cultural
resources
survey
that
I
told
you
guys
about
before
there's
been
over
300
structures
that
they
looked
at
I
had
I
had
the
exact
number,
but
we've
got
a
ton
of
new
master
site
files,
south
of
where
our
existing
Historic
District
boundaries
lie
so
and
some
of
the
draft
findings
or
three
structures
are
individually
National
register
eligible
I'll,
be
I'll,
be
bringing
that
back
to
you.
C
F
F
C
A
C
Button
went
well,
do
you
know
of
an
accountant.