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A
I'm
calling
this
a
meeting
for
the
historic
preservation
board
to
open.
Can
you
give
us
a
roll
call?
Please
Mr.
A
A
Okay,
going
on
to
public
comments
now
what
I
want
to
say
about
public
comments?
Is
these
are
general
public
comments?
If
you
want
to
talk
about
any
petition,
that's
coming
up
here,
we'll
have
a
public
comment
at
that
time,
where
you'll
be
sworn
in
and
you'll
be
part
of
the
process.
Okay,
this
is
just
for
General.
So
do
we
have
any
general
public
comments?
A
First
off
is
for
August
1st
2022.
F
A
A
Okay,
any
discussions
on
this
hearing.
None
can
we
have
a
roll
call
vote.
A
G
A
F
A
H
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
The
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Heritage
preservation
board
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature.
In
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
the
board's
function
is
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
This
is
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
the
board.
H
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
arising
from
the
application
and
the
applicable
code
sections
any
and
all
persons
providing
testimony
at
this
hearing
are
required
to
do
so
under
oath.
All
persons
testifying
at
this
hearing
must
give
their
name
address
and
indicate
whether
or
not
they
have
been
sworn
for
the
record
prior
to
proceeding
with
their
testimony.
H
All
testimony
and
questioning
at
this
hearing
must
address
matters
that
are
relevant
and
material
to
the
issues
under
consideration,
based
on
the
criteria
established
in
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code
of
ordinances.
If
any
board
member
has
any
disclosures
regarding
an
application,
please
make
your
disclosures
on
the
record
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
This
will
include
ex
parte
and
voting
conflicts
of
interest
if
there
is
not
a
full
bird
present.
At
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
the
applicant
May
request
a
continuation
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
Heritage
preservation
board.
H
The
following
is
the
established
procedure,
which
will
be
followed
at
this
quasi-judicial
hearing.
City
staff
will
present
its
testimony
and
evidence
regarding
the
application
first,
the
applicant
will
then
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
cross-examine
the
staff
and
any
staff
Witnesses.
The
applicant
will
then
have
the
opportunity
to
present
its
Witnesses
and
evidence.
The
city
will
have
the
opportunity
to
cross-examine
the
applicant
and
any
of
the
applicants.
Witnesses
members
of
the
public
opposing
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
present
their
testimony
and
evidence.
H
Members
of
the
public
in
support
of
the
application
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
provide
their
testimony
and
evidence.
The
applicant
and
the
city
may
present
any
rebuttal
testimony
and
evidence
and
a
closing
statement.
For
summary,
the
board
will
then
close
the
public
hearing
for
discussion
and
consideration
of
the
application
at
this
time
for
anyone
Desiring
to
speak
on
any
matters
before
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Heritage
preservation
board.
Please
stand
to
receive
the
oath.
H
Okay,
those
speaking
please
raise
your
right
hand.
Do
you
swear
or
affirm,
to
tell
the
truth
on
the
matters
before
the
Heritage
preservation
board
for
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
this
evening
and
remember
when
you
come
up
to
give
your
testimony,
please
state
your
name
address
and
indicate
that
you've
been
sworn.
A
J
I
It's
right
there
in
the
heart
of
Our
National,
Historic
District,
and
the
request
is
for
a
certificate
of
approval
to
completely
replace
the
existing
storefronts
at
2024
Hibiscus
Street,
with
a
storefront
that
matches
the
altered
storefronts
at
101
and
105
East
Tarpon
Avenue,
which
would
include
removing
two
Alcove
entries
at
2024,
hibiscus
reframing,
the
windows
to
a
90
degree
angle.
All
doors
and
glass
on
the
contributing
structures
would
be
replaced
with
new
full-length
continuous
display
windows
with
aluminum,
foil
support
panels
and
aluminum
framed
double
entry
doors.
I
The
slide
shows
the
Zoning
for
the
area,
which
is
in
the
special
area
plan,
and
this
is
the
picture
from
the
Florida
Master
site
file
when
it
was
last
recorded
in
2009.
I
This
shows
the
first
three
properties
were
built
by
the
1913
Sanborn,
so
the
first
three
four
strong,
the
first
three
storefronts
at
24
hibiscus,
were
extant
by
1913
and
then
by
1919
you
can
see
all
four
of
the
storefronts
were
existed,
also
notable
the
Florida
Master
site
file,
notes
that
passed.
Use
of
this
structure
included
the
Tarpon
Springs
Leader
newspaper,
and
this
close-up
just
shows
the
wood
frame
awning
and
some
of
the
more
details
that
were
existing
in
1919.
I
I
And
here's
some
close-ups
of
additional
architectural
details
that
were
revealed
when
the
work
commenced
without
a
certificate
of
approval.
You
can
see
a
decorative
cornice
there,
you
kind
of
have
to
look
closely
but
there's
a
decorative
cornice
that
was
hidden
behind
that
stucco
and
the
structure
was
stuccoed
around
1980.
I
These
pictures
show
the
stepped
parapet
side
and
an
original
window
opening
that
was
used
when
it
was
a
photographer's
just
some
other
views
of
the
2024
side.
Storefronts.
These
two
storefronts
were
altered.
They
no
longer
have
the
Alcove
entrances,
but
they
do
have
wood
doors
and
the
2024
has
retains
its
transom
windows.
I
I
I
So
our
standards
for
review
for
a
certificate
of
approval
I'm
going
to
go
through
some
of
the
most
Salient
points:
new
construction,
consistency,
the
height
width
and
materials
of
the
front,
facade
and
entry.
Would
be
significantly
altered
by
the
proposed
project.
Windows
Doors
and
entries
entryways
and
accompany
features
will
be
demolished
and
replaced.
I
I
I
And
these
are
kind
of
hard
to
read
on
the
slide,
but
for
our
design
review
guideline
manuals.
There
are
a
number
of
conflicts,
particularly
guideline.
One
preserve
a
guideline
two
repair,
rather
than
replace,
restore
historic,
significant
historic
features,
make
sensitive,
Replacements
context,
sensitive
design
match
the
existing
or
historic
signing
on
this
one.
It's
kind
of
we've
got
kind
of
two
stories
here.
It
says:
don't
stucco
over
masonry,
but
if
it
has
already
previously
been
stuccoed,
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
remove
it,
because
that
can
damage
the
structure
further.
I
States,
this
is
additional
guidelines
for
commercial
properties,
so
especially
relevant
for
this
project
are
maintain
the
historic
layout
of
commercial
storefronts
maintain
the
window
and
door
pattern
of
the
storefront
historic
entrances
are
typically
flanked
with
glass,
display,
Windows,
maintain
and
restore
character,
defining
features
including
storefronts
transoms,
bulkheads
windows
and
Architectural.
Details
preserve
or
restore
the
historic
size
and
configuration
of
glass
display
Windows,
where
possible.
I
And
I
kind
of
just
ran
through
all
of
those,
so
staff
recommends
denial
of
application.
22
139,
as
presented
based
on
inconsistency
with
the
review
criteria,
as
we
just
went
over
and
essentially
this
project
is
proposing
to
replace
historic
storefronts
with
modern
store
fronts
in
substantial
conflict
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards.
I
However,
if
the
Heritage
preservation
board
would
like
to
approve
the
project
with
conditions,
it's
recommended
either
that
only
the
stucco
portion
of
the
project
be
approved
or
the
intact
historic
storefront
at
24
hibiscus
be
retained
and
the
wood
doors
and
transoms
be
retained,
and
also,
as
always,
the
certificate
of
approval
would
expire
in
three
years.
If
a
building
permit
has
not
been
issued
and
with
that
I
can
take
any
questions.
J
His
Ada
of
compliance
been
considered
with
this
project
because
there's
a
step
going
up
to
the
well
or
is
that
not
part
of.
I
Our
it's
not
it's
not
required
for
historic
structure.
Okay,.
D
Carol
question:
okay
in
your
recommended
outcome
of
this
you're
mentioning
to
keep
and
connect
the
storefront
at
24..
So
our
does
that
mean
the
other
storefronts.
I
Not
my
personal
problem
just
going
by
the
guidelines,
but
this
this
storefront
is
closest
to
the
original
storefront.
If
not
the
original
storefront,
at
least
the
the
original.
That's
that's
24.
D
I
24.,
so
that's
the
original
storefront
configuration
and
it
maintains
all
of
the
elements
that
all
of
them
would
have
originally
had
its
staff
recommendation
that
if
you
want
to
approve
this,
that
at
a
minimum,
this
storefront
be
maintained.
In
addition,
we'd
like
to
see
the
transoms,
where
the
transoms
are
still
excellent
to
be
maintained,.
I
I
Mean
when
I
originally
talked
to
the
applicant
about
it,
they
were
excited
when
they
found
it
and
wanted
to
it
is
it's
beautiful,
but
I
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
that
because
it'd
be
bringing
it
back
to
closer
to
its
historic,
but
that's
not
the
application
in
front
of
us
and
I
understand.
You
know,
there's
an
expense.
We
have
to
be
practical.
So
as
long
as
it's
you
know,
stuccoed
over
like
it
was
it'll
still
be
there.
H
L
You
know
because,
like
what
we
had
done
on
the
front
of
the
building,
was
you
know
the
product
approval
codes
were
all
approved
and
we
replaced
it
with
new,
not
there's,
no
repairing,
it's
that's
literally
falling
apart,
I
mean
I
can
push
the
glass
out
with
my
hands
if
I
wanted.
L
To
so
I
mean
I
feel
there's
a
little
life
safety
issue
there
with
with
concerns
to
the
some
of
the
storefront
and
the
transoms
above
that
were
covered
in
the
stucco
I'm,
not
really
sure
why
we
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
just
replace
those
I
mean
it
would
bring
it
back
like,
like
Caroline,
said
more
to
its
original
look,
some
of
the
stucco
that's
covering
the
brick
along
the
sides.
We've
we've
we've
taken
it
off.
It
was
mostly
fallen
off
and
and
repaired
it
above
the
transoms,
but
down
the
sides
of
bricks
intact.
L
If
it
has
to
be
restruck,
that's
something
we
can
do.
You
know
you
know,
give
it
that
1919
look
and
as
far
as
the
I
guess,
the
the
way
the
entrance
ways
are.
You
know
we
weren't
aware
that
I
mean
because
the
one
on
the
far
end
by
the
alley
is
at
a
90
degree
angle,
but
I
if,
if,
if,
if
we
have
to
keep
them
concave
like
that,
that's
fine
with
us,
we
just
all
the
wood
that
is
supporting
that
that's
what
glass
is
left
is
rotten.
L
It's
just
crumbling
I
mean
you
got
to
do
something
with
it
for
it,
just
you
know,
falls
out
to
the
street
so
I,
you
know
that's
where
I'm
that's,
where
I'm
at
that's
what
my
two
senses.
L
Thank
God
anything
else
because
now
Caroline,
you
know
like
above
those
what
we're
seeing
here.
There's
like
a
three
foot:
just
fixed
glass,
well,
they're,
all
kind
of
bashed
out
and
boarded
over,
and
that's
what
you
know.
That's
part
of
it.
You
know
you
were
saying
that
that
wasn't
on
that
wasn't
on
the
application
to
repair
or
replace.
B
I
L
Storefront
that
you
see,
but
then
there's
some
above
it
as
well,
that's
covered
with
a
material
to
prevent
weather
from
getting
in
right
now,
because
when
we
took
the
brick
out
or
took
the
stucco
off
the
brick,
there
was
no
brick
there.
There
was
just
old,
fixed
panels
that
were
all
kind
of
termite,
rotted,
wood
and
so
at
the
very
least,
we'd
have
to
take
that
out
and
frame
it
in
to
stucco
it.
Even
that
was
our.
Our
thought
was
that
we
would
just
replace
it
with
the
same
sort
of
storefront.
G
E
G
B
G
L
L
Give
us
some
of
that
character.
Yeah.
We
could
take
some
better
pictures,
but,
oh
you
got
some
pictures,
but
that
was
my.
That
was
my
whole
point.
It
was
like
yeah,
it's
like
we
should.
You
know.
Oh.
G
L
H
So
so,
just
just
quickly,
if
you
are
going
to
be
submitting
pictures,
you
have
to
send
them
to
the
city
because
they
have
to
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
the
board.
If
you
want
to
you,
have
the
recommended
conditions
in
your
packet,
but
with
respect
to
the
cornice.
You
know
that
still
is
an
architectural
feature,
that's
within
your
purview
and
issuing
your
certificate
of
approval.
So
if
you
wanted
to
add
that
as
a
condition,
there's
not
a
problem
with
that.
Okay.
J
L
Yeah
and
then
I
was
made
aware
that
yeah
like
we,
we
we
absolutely
could
do
it
this
way
as
it
sits.
But
my
point
is
yeah
the
wood
that's
holding
that
glass
is,
is
it
crumbles
in
your
hands
so,
and
you
literally
could
push
that
storefront
out.
If
you
wanted
to
it's
just
some,
you
know
I
just
want
to
rebuild
that
structure,
so
it's
safe
and
as
far
as
the
Alcove,
we
can
keep
that
in
there
that
that's
not
it.
That's
not
a
problem.
I
L
H
I
Correct
so
my
my
staff
rebuttal
would
be
that
we
would
want
to
repair
first,
but
if
we
need
to
replace,
we
want
to
replace
with
like
materials,
so
replacing
glass
with
glass
and
wood
with
wood,
not
wood
with
aluminum.
Well,.
L
L
Instead
of
using
the
traditional
storefront
doors
like
around
the
front
of
the
building,
we
I
guess
we
could,
you
know,
make
that
condition
as
well,
but
you
have
to
take
the
storefront
out
to
replace
the
rotten
wood.
That's
holding
it
together,
there's
no
repairing
it!
It's
it's
done
its
time
it
it
has
to
be
replaced
or
it's
just
going
to
fall
out.
I've.
A
L
The
model
of
it
is
the
front
of
the
building
and
just
like
the
place
across
the
street
I
mean
that
was
approved
by
you
folks.
You
know
at
some
point
when,
when
the
front
of
the
building
was
done
and
we're
just
asking
to
do
the
same
thing
and
we
don't
have
the
one
thing
that
Caroline
had
said
we
had
our
our
design
had
showed,
we
were
going
to
put
them
all
at
a
90
degree
angle.
Well,
we
simply
don't
have
to
do
that.
We
could
make
that
concession
and
keep
it
the
same
way.
L
Well,
like
I
said:
I
mean
yeah
I
mean
there
I,
don't
the
only
thing.
That's
wood
is
maybe
the
doors.
Okay,
you
know
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
other
wood
I
think
it's
all
aluminum,
it's
Old
Mill
finish
aluminum,
not
like
today's
structural
aluminum.
H
I'm,
sorry,
are
you
the
applicant?
Yes,.
B
M
Okay,
thank
you.
Yes,
my
name
is
no
Mickey
avalis
I
am
the
applicant.
I
live
at
1403
Circle
Drive
in
Tarpon,
Springs
and
I've
been
here
before,
maybe
not
with
all
of
you,
the
same
people,
but
we've
had
the
same
couple
of
hearings
about
the
two
front,
storefronts
on
Tarpon
Avenue,
which
is
now
a
backdraft
Pizzeria
and
twisted
orange
I
purchased
this
building
in
2008
and,
as
you
all
know,
we
really
didn't
have
a
Main
Street
back.
Then
it
was
nothing
excuse
me,
but
it
was
horrible.
M
After
purchasing
this
building,
I
I
didn't
know
what
I
was
purchasing
and
after
I
got
it.
I
was
like
what
did
I
just
do,
however,
since
then
we
beautified
the
building.
We
did
a
lot
of
good
things
to
it
from
different
tenants
and
finally,
I
have
found
tenants
that
care
about
their
businesses,
care
about
Main,
Street
care
about
moving
up
and
making
everything
better
than
what
it
was.
However,
the
structure
of
the
building
was
letting
me
down.
M
M
Since
then,
we
tried
with
just
covering
things
up.
We
replace
I,
replaced
the
door
on
26.
Hibiscus.
Excuse
me,
one
thing
I
wanted
to
add
is
that
when
you
turn
the
corner
on
Tarpon
Avenue
and
that's
backdrops,
going
into
a
hibiscus
Street,
the
first
storefront
is
20
hibiscus
and
then
the
second
is
22.
Then
it's
24
and
26..
So
the
one
by
the
alley
is
26..
M
I
M
The
white
new
framing
going
inside
so
the
one
next
to
it
would
be
22.
I
M
That's
20
hibiscus
and
if
you'll
remember
back
about
20
years
ago,
there
was
an
artist
there
photopolis.
It
was
because
my
son
was
in
elementary
school
taking
art
classes
from
him,
and
it
this
the
place
was
just
the
way
it
was.
His
Studio
was
just
the
way
it
was
and
and,
like
we
said
Till
today,
everything
was
fine.
The
way
it
is,
we
didn't
replace
anything
in
the
front
of
the
storefront.
We
did
a
lot
of
work
like
makeup
work
inside
to
keep
the
pla
the
buildings
clean
and
everything,
and
it
looks
beautiful.
M
We
kept
the
nice
ceilings
on
top
and
people
admire
that
and
everything.
But
now
it
comes
to
the
problem
where
the
water
is
coming
in
through
the
storefronts
and
not
from
the
roof,
and
it's
not
only
coming
in
through
the
glass
and
the
stucco
from
outside
here,
because
even
next
door
with
the
wood,
you
got
the
wood
rottening
on
top
I'm,
not
very
good,
with
my
technical
areas
of
the
doors.
So
when
you
open
the
door,
there's
still
rotten
wood
on
top,
that's
holding
those
doors
together
make
a
long
story
short.
M
The
20
is
caved
in
like
this
22,
which
is
now
sweet,
wood,
Bakery
she's,
an
amazing
young
lady.
It
took
her
about
a
year
to
fix
the
her
new
kitchen
inside
and
baking
her
Custom
Cakes,
and
we
still
have
the
problem
of
that
brown
door.
That's
ready
to
fall
off.
The
glass
is
not
intact
like
it
shows
it
has
to
be
replaced
and
with
better
framing,
and
then
it
goes
down
to
the.
M
M
With
all
that
said,
in
December
of
22,
beginning
of
December,
we
decided
to
I
decided
to
just
take
it
on
and
do
something
about
it
big
now
that
it
was
a
dry
weather
and
not
falling
into
the
stormy
weather
coming
in
with
hurricanes
in
the
summer,
because
I
didn't
want
to
deal
with
all
the
water
coming
in
through
the
storefronts
hired
Mr
Larson,
we
got
a
permit
to
re-stucco
the
storefronts
of
the
of
the
building,
above
as
we're
replacing
the
storefront
that
stucco
the
old
stucco.
First
of
all,
it
wasn't
thick
enough.
B
M
M
This
is
first
I
applied,
Caroline
first
I
applied
for
storefronts
and
I
wanted
to
do
it,
one
storefront
at
a
time,
and
then
after
we
re,
we
saw
what
was
underneath
and
revealed
the
brick
part
of
it.
We
fell
in
love
with
it,
and
then
there
was
a
beam,
the
original
beam,
and
then
we
noticed
that
there
were
also
windows
at
one
time
they
were
falling
apart.
We
I
wanted
I
honestly
wanted
to
keep
it,
but
as
they
were
doing
their
work
performing
removing
it
even
the
brick
was
falling
apart.
M
M
I
love
it
whatever
I
want
to
keep
it,
but
monetarily
cost
wise
I
couldn't
keep
it
I,
couldn't
bring
it
to
where
it
should
where
you
can
hold
on
this
building,
but
I'm
willing
to
do
both
I
said:
let's
keep
the
windows.
The
old
look
will
change
the
front,
get
a
better
front.
I
was
going
for
a
90
degree
angle,
but
then,
by
looking
at
this
and
listening
to
the
staff
reports,
we
don't
mind
keeping
the
two
inward
doors
the
way
they
are
but
I
like
to
make
them
all
the
same.
M
Where
we
have,
we
can
use
the
same
metal
that
we've
used
for
backdrafts
and
twisted
Orange
around,
because
it's
it's
not
the
same
building,
but
it's
two
different
buildings
and
and
keep
the
height
where
we
have
the
windows
on
the
top.
If
we
can
keep
the
beam
with
the
rosettes,
we'll
keep
that
too
I'm
willing
to
do
that
too
with
it.
M
But
we
had
to
stucco
the
top
and
put
the
original
Beam
on
it
with
the
foam
and
we
stopped
there
because
we
need
needed
your
approval
in
order
to
get
licensed,
yeah
and
move
on
yes,
I'm
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you,
I
am
but
I
can't
leave
it
the
way
it
was
before
these
doors
are
falling
apart,
May
comes
around
his
termite
season,
the
rain's
gonna
start
hitting
up,
we
don't
get
flooded,
but
the
rain
comes
through
the
walls.
So
something
has
to
be
done.
Thank
you.
M
L
G
L
The
wood
behind
the
stucco
is,
and
you
know,
here's
the
thing
it's
like
we're
willing
to
work
with
you
guys.
However,
you
want
us
to
do
it.
It's
just
that
the
storefront
that's
there
is
falling
out,
so
you
know
we
got
to
do
something,
but
if
it's
you
know,
we
just
gotta
work
it
out.
D
D
L
Ends
the
two
in
the
middle
I
think
the
one
on
the
end's
been
replaced
and
this
Nikki's
office
is
like
a
storefront
yeah.
You
can
see.
M
A
L
L
G
26,
a
composite
door
now
I
believe
so
it
looks
like
it
on.
E
K
O
There,
my
name
is
nomiki
kambarakis
I'm
at
1109,
Sunset
Drive
I
am
a
tenant
of
nomiki
vavilas.
So
what
the
goal
is
here,
I
think-
and
it's
just
in
a
nutshell-
is
to
keep
the
to
keep
the
old
and
bring
in
the
new.
So
where
you
saw
the
cornist
at
the
top,
where
the
beam
is
above
that
is,
the
is
the
is.
O
O
O
It
wouldn't
be
different
from
the
ones
in
the
front.
It
would
look
exactly
the
same
as
the
ones
in
the
front
on
Florida
Avenue
and
then
want
to
keep
the
historic.
But
yet
we
want
to
cover
up
all
the
historic,
that's
there
and
it
was
covered
up.
So
I
think
that
if
we
let
come
to
a
happy
medium
I
think
it
would
all
work
out.
Okay,.
E
A
Okay,
any
rebuttals.
I
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
respond
to
a
couple
of
points,
so
they
spoke
about
the
approval
for
101
and
105
East
Tarpon
Avenue
staff
recommended
denial
for
that
application,
and
it
was
a
split
vote.
It
was
not
a
unanimous
vote
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
need
to
ask
and
and
satisfy
yourselves
of
is,
is
replacing
it
with
the
same
materials
infeasible.
I
So
is
it
infeasible
to
replace
it
with
with
wood,
surrounds
or
something
that
mimics
the
look
of
wood
to
make
it
look
more
like
the
historic
character?
Is
that
infeasible
and
do
we
need
to
go
with
aluminum,
or
is
that
just
you
know
replacing
a
historic
storefront
with
a
modern
storefront?
It's
just
those
two
points.
A
It
gives
us
something
to
think
about.
Okay,
do
we
have
a
motion?
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
I,
didn't
see
your
hand.
P
Hello,
Nils
hossey,
with
124
Shattuck,
Street,
Tarpon,
Springs
I,
have
a
historic
home
that
I've
restored
and
have
noticed,
wasn't
planning
on
getting
involved
in
this
argument.
But
you
know
the
cat
was
laid
out
of
the
bag
when
you,
when
you
messed
up
the
front
of
Tarpon
Avenue,
you
already
started
this
building
with
changing
the
character
of
the
building,
now
you're
holding
hostage
someone
who
is
in
the
back
part
of
it
and
trying
to
fix
something
so
in
today's
world,
as
also
I'm,
also
a
general
contractor
by
the
way
retired.
P
B
P
Great,
is
it
historic,
no,
but
you've
already
ruined
the
Integrity
of
the
building,
so
you
know
I
agree
with
these
people
that
they
ought
to
be
able
to
do
what
they
want
to
there.
You've
already
got
aluminum
there
now
you're
trying
to
remodel
so
to
speak,
and
if
you
want
to
do
this
right,
then
the
whole
front
of
Tarpon
Avenue
needs
to
change
as
long
as
the
other
buildings.
B
G
H
Haven't
closed
the
public
hearing,
yet
once
you
make
the
motion,
whether
you
announce
it
or
not,
that
kind
of
ends
and
closes
the
public
hearing.
So
now
you
still
have
the
ability
to
discuss
it
amongst
yourselves,
and
if
you
have
additional
questions
and
testimony,
you
can
take
that
before
you
kind
of
work
through
how
you
want
to
make
your
motion.
Okay,
okay,.
A
H
A
G
L
A
A
G
L
M
B
A
A
Now,
if
they
keep
the
configurations
where
you
have
the
recessed
doorways
and
the
what
do
they
call
it?
Cornishes.
A
G
A
G
G
Let
them
replace
it
with
a
modern
storefront,
but
above
that
storefront
restore
the
cornice
and
the
what's
above
it
I
think,
there's
some
windows
or
some
whatever.
That
is.
H
G
A
G
G
G
D
I'm
not
but
I'm,
okay
with
all
of
it,
except
two
of
the
fronts
being
flat
and
two
being
recessed.
If
the
gentleman
didn't
seem
to
have
a
problem
with
recessing
them
all,
since
they
all
have
to
be
torn
apart
anyway
and
rebuilt
am
I,
correct,
I
mean
you're
going
to
be
carrying
it
all
out
to
rebuild
it.
Yes,
sir,
you
said
yourself
that
it's
not
repairable.
G
D
D
B
H
G
G
E
J
G
A
A
H
H
Technically
you
close
the
public
hearing,
but
I
am
a
fan
if
you
feel
it's
going
to
assist
you
in
your
deliberations
of
allowing
as
long
as
the
board
chair
is
okay
with
that
allowing
additional
questions.
Okay,.
G
B
G
L
L
A
C
Vote
on
what
we
have
so
what
I
have
is
to
approve
the
application
to
replace
the
windows
and
doors
with
aluminum
and
keep
their
recessed
storefronts
and
restore
the
cornices.
G
K
G
G
C
A
D
A
This
is
on
106
West,
Park
Street.
This
is
the
old
sponge,
SpongeBob
or
SpongeBob's.
I
So
this
is
the
location
and
context
of
the
subject
structure.
As
you
can
see,
there's
a
couple
of
different
zoning
types
surrounding
the
building.
We
have
residential
medium.
The
structure
itself
is
in
Waterfront
commercial
fishing
development
district,
and
then
we
have
some
residential
Urban.
It's
a
quite
quite
a
little
hodgepodge
over
here
where
it's
located.
I
Here's
its
location
within
the
historic
district
and
the
applicant
is
Seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
to
construct
a
new
to
okay.
This
is
a
long
one
guys
to
construct
a
new
1200
square
foot
Warehouse
on
the
property
construct,
an
ADA
ramp
to
the
front
of
the
property
to
the
existing
contributing
structure,
paver
walkways
Drive
apron
and
an
ADA
park.
I
It
was
built
in
1905
and
the
building
is
significant
because
of
its
association
with
the
Tarpon
Springs
Sponge
industry.
So
actually,
when
this
picture
was
taken
in
2009,
it
was
still
operating
as
a
sponge.
Packing
House,
distinctive
features
on
the
building
noted
in
the
Florida
Master
site
file
include
wood,
surrounds
metal
grates
over
the
windows
and
The
Faded
outline
of
Geo
nickels
on
the
south
side.
I
I
Okay,
so
here's
a
picture
of
the
subject
property
recently
for
context.
It
has
some
residential
across
the
street
from
it
has
some
multi-family
residential.
I
I
I
I
This
is
the
proposed
project,
some
some
elevations,
showing
you
what
it
would
look
like
at
the
top.
You
can
see
the
new
Ada
ramp
to
the
front
door
along
the
South
Side.
You
can
see
new
doors
and
windows
and
fencing.
I
I
Approximately
84
inches
wide
and
50
inches
high,
no
sign
lighting,
but
it
would
be
illuminated
by
the
existing
light.
So,
unfortunately,
this
project
touches
on
just
about
all
of
our
standards
of
review.
I
The
proportions
of
the
proposed
new
Warehouse
are
consistent
with
the
adjacent
contributing
structure
and
other
structures
in
the
surrounding
area,
and
the
proposed
contributing
structure
Renovations
would
not
alter
the
historic
height
and
width
the
application
materials
for
the
subject.
Property
property
indicate
that
doors,
windows,
steps,
fixtures
and
handrails
will
maintain
a
basic
original
era,
look
and
feel
from
visual
inspection.
It's
been
determined
that
the
original
doors
on
the
west,
south
and
east
elevations
have
been
placed
replaced
without
a
permit
and
the
historic
dimensions
of
the
doorways
have
been
altered.
I
The
original
dimensions
of
the
window
on
the
Roosevelt
Boulevard
facade
has
been
altered
and
the
window
replaced
on
the
southern
elevation.
Two
of
the
historic
Windows
have
been
replaced.
There
was
a
previous
certificate
of
approval,
but
no
building
permit
was
issued
for
that
and
one
two
pane
window
has
been
covered.
I
The
View
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
is
obstructed,
but
it's
clear
that
the
original
doorway
has
been
altered.
The
Loft
door
has
been
replaced
with
a
louvered
vent
and
an
unpermitted
addition
appears
to
be
blocking
the
original
window
on
that
elevation.
I
So,
rather
than
referring
these
issues
to
the
building
official
for
enforcement
proceedings,
staff
proposes
that
we
remedy
these
code
violations
through
consultation
through
the
execution
of
this
proposed
project.
Should
it
get
all
of
its
approvals
and
I
have
some
conditions
that
I
will
discuss
with
you
at
the
end.
I
So
the
relationship
we're
talking
about
in
this
District
neighborhood
District
in
context,
so
the
proposed
project
would
alter
the
relationship
between
the
building
and
the
street
through
the
addition
of
patios
of
the
proposed
Warehouse
retention
areas
rip
rap.
It's
going
to
make
some
pretty
significant
changes
to
the
context
of
the
neighborhood,
but
although
it
would
change
the
view
said
if
you
shed
it's
anticipated
to
enhance
the
streetscape
through
Landscaping
improvements
and
activating
The
Pedestrian
environment.
I
I
Again,
if
this
is
approved,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everything's
up
to
code-
and
we
get
it
all
permitted
through
this
project,
so
size
and
mass
the
size
and
mass
of
the
contributing
structure
would
not
be
altered.
However,
it
has
been
altered
at
some
point
between
January
2019
and
January
22.
I
The
new
1200
square
foot
Warehouse
reflects
the
historical
character
of
the
area
and
would
be
clearly
subordinate
to
the
primary
contributing
structure.
The
simple
Warehouse
structure
type.
It
would
fit
right
in
with
this
historically
industrial
area,
and
it
would
be
buffered
by
the
retention
area,
parking
and
Landscaping.
I
So
Landscaping
would
be
used
to
enhance
the
property
and
complement
the
architectural
character
if
the
contributing
structure
and
also
the
adjacent
pedestrian
environment.
However,
the
proposed
mix
of
metal
and
chain
link
fencing
is
inconsistent
with
our
design
review
guideline
manual.
We
don't
like
to
mix
fencing
types
and
also
we
would
require
some
form
of
architectural
relief.
I
So
a
distinctive
architectural
features,
so
previous
unpermitted
alterations
have
changed.
Some
of
the
few
distinctive
architectural
features
of
this
historic
Warehouse
I
mean
function
is
always
going
to
take
precedence
over
form
in
a
warehouse.
It's
it's.
How
we
use
things
right
and
retention
of
the
few
defining
architectural
details
is
needed
to
retain
the
historic
Integrity
of
the
building,
so
the
original
dimensions
and
appearance
of
windows
and
doors
that
would
probably
get
us
back
to
where
we
need
to
be.
I
So
here
are
our
standards
of
review
adherence
to
the
secretary's
guideline.
Now
it
is
not
the
the
property.
I
would
like
to
specifically
talk
about
the
secretary's
guideline
number
one.
It
is
not
usually
the
purview
of
this
board
to
think
about
use,
except
in
this
particular
context,
so
I'm
going
to
read
this
a
property
shall
be
used
for
its
historic
purpose
or
be
placed
in
a
new
use
that
requires
minimal
change
to
the
defining
characteristics
of
the
building
and
its
site
and
environment.
I
So
up
until
2009,
this
was
a
sponge
packing
plant.
This
was
a
historic.
This
is
a
historically.
This
was
a
warehouse
District.
It
was
all
sponge
packing
and
drying
and
processing.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
change
of
use,
but
it's
a
commercial
use
to
a
commercial
use
and
I
would
think
the
coffee
house
would
be
less
stinky
than
a
sponge
Warehouse.
J
I
Coffee
house
would
be
less
intrusive
than
a
sponge
packing
Warehouse,
so
I
think
it's
a
less
intensive
use.
Let's
just
put
it
that
way:
we're
going
from
a
more
industrial
use
to
a
commercial
use,
but
all
of
the
all
of
the
the
guidelines,
the
secretary's
guidelines,
really
are
applicable
to
this
project.
It's
a
big
project,
so
particularly
the
removal
of
historic
materials,
the
distinctive
features
repairing
rather
than
replacing,
not
destroying
historic
materials.
I
New
additions
undertaken
in
a
manner
to
where
they
would
not
compromise
the
essential
form
and
function
of
the
historic
property.
I
think
we're
fine
on
that
one.
The
HPV
must
determine
that
the
project
is
proposed
is
the
most
feasible
and
best
way
to
preserve
the
overall
historic
character
and
longevity
of
the
property
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
secretary's
standards.
I
The
historic
window
and
door
dimensions
need
to
be
restored.
Wall
signage
shall
not
exceed
15.7
square
feet
in
area
and
that's
just
out
of
our
code.
I
D
I
And
that's
kind
of
why
I
pointed
it
out
no
in
you
should
always
be
looking
at
this
guideline
and
it's
very
specific,
narrow
interpretation
of
considering
the
use.
So
we
know
the
historic
use
was
a
sponge
Warehouse,
and
is
this
new
use
going
to
require
minimal
change
to
the
defining
characteristics
of
the
building,
its
site
and
its
environment?
H
So,
just
to
clarify
you're,
not
changing
the
use
you're,
not
technically
considering
the
use,
because
it's
no
longer
being
used
in
a
historical
manner,
so
the
historical
manner
that
it
was
used
in
was
to
take
care
of
and
dry
the
sponges
since
you're.
No
longer
it's
no
longer
being
used
for
that
for
well
over
a
decade.
Now,
that's
really
technically
not
part
of
your
consideration,
because
you
can't
maintain
that
use
there
anymore
right,
but
it
is
still
a
commercial
use,
so
you're
not
changing
the
zoning
on
the
property.
H
This
is
the
the
use
of
going
from
a
sponge
drying.
Factory
to
a
coffee
house
is
still
within
the
zoning
of
this
particular
property,
so
you're
not
making
any
change
to
that
you're.
Only
considering
the
use
in
the
context
of
the
building
not
as
to
what
the
property
is
actually
going
to
be
used
for
by
the
applicant
no.
I
D
H
For
the
record
you're
offering
the
city
staff
on
this
file
for
the
board's
consideration
in
this.
I
Matter
no
I'm,
not
because
I
forgot.
My
last
slide.
We
did
at
the
time
of
making
the
presentation.
I
did
get
one
public
response
and
then,
at
your
desks
we
later
received
another
public
response
to
this.
However,
it
the
public
responses
do
not
appear
to
be
pertinent
to
what
we
are
reviewing
here
today.
A
Okay,
any
more
questions
on
the
board
hearing,
none
the
applicant.
You
want
to
okay.
H
Q
Hello
and
my
name
is
Kenneth
Saya
I'm
403
Roosevelt
Boulevard
directly
across
the
street,
from
this
building,
which
is
why
I
ended
up
buying
it
just
bought
that
property
and
fell
in
love
with
this
one.
For
some
strange
reason,
I,
don't
know
why
we've
bought
this
building
about
two
years
ago.
At
the
time
it
was
owned
by
a
basically
a
bridge,
painting
company,
and
it
was
pretty
heavily
industrial
which
didn't
sit
right
with
some
people.
Q
But
I
got
to
be
friends
with
a
guy
and
told
him
hey
when
you
get
ready
to
sell
it,
I'm
interested
and
originally
my
intention
was
purely
just
to
Tinker,
with
a
model
Ace
which
they're
out
there
I'm
sure
he
often
driven
by
you've,
seen
them
sitting
out
there,
and
that
was
pretty
much
it.
It
was
just
going
to
be
private
use,
I
wasn't
going
to
worry
about
it
and
then
I
don't
know
the
one.
The
idea
came
up
one
day
to
just
see.
Q
The
a
lot
of
you
know
I
mean
I
pretty
much
bought
this
building,
as
is
I,
do
know.
Some
of
the
history
of
some
of
the
stuff
that's
been
done
in
100
will
take
responsibility
for
changing
the
door
panels
out
on
the
south
side,
the
the!
If
you
all
right,
let
me
go
back
to
oh
well,
let
me
go
let's:
let's
talk
about
the
roof,
because
that's
like
this
third
picture
in
no
it's
not
the
third
picture
in
all
right
fourth
picture
in
is:
is
one
of
the
Windows
Doors?
Q
How,
whatever
you
want
to
call
them,
they
were
really
just
access
points
to
The
Loft,
this
building
from
what
I
understand
from
some
of
the
old
Greek,
gentlemen.
The
second
four
was
all
sponge,
cribs
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
this
was
used
for
ventilation,
whether
it
was
used
for
loading
the
sponges
whatever,
but
you
can
see
the
louvered
vents
on
the
back,
one
that
got
put
in
I
do
not
know,
and
it's
functional.
Q
It
works
in
the
summertime,
it's
great
to
be
able
to
turn
it
on
because
it
pulls
the
air
right
through
the
building
taking
that
out
and
replacing
it
with
a
piece
of
you
know
with
with
a
sheet
metal
flap,
because
essentially
that's
what
I
think
it
was
I,
don't
see,
I,
don't
really
see
where
we
gain
anything
from
that.
The
fan
is
actually
a
picture
of
the
fan
in
there.
If
you
flip
another
picture
back.
Q
They're
on
the
south
side,
there
is
a
patch
that
is
right
after
the
fan,
and
it
is
just
a
seat,
metal
patch,
like
probably
the
30
or
40
other
patches
that
are
in
that
building.
It's
been
an
industrial
building
for
118
years.
As
you
can
expect,
things
have
changed,
it's
not
like
the
day
it
was
built,
though
I
think
in
in
the
general
aspects
of
it.
Q
It
is
pretty
much
the
same
behind
that
patch
is
this
picture,
which
you
can
see
clearly
that
the
purling
purlin
and
the
studs
have
not
been
as
far
as
I
can
tell
I,
think
they're
the
original
studs
and
purlins.
They
match
everything
else
in
there
they
have
not
been
cut
so
there
whenever
was
a
window
there
I
believe
it
was
really
just
a
sheet
metal
access
for
for
ventilation,
the
there's
one
not
far
down
from
it.
That's
about
this
big.
Q
You
can
tell
that
used
to
be
an
old
stove
because
there's
a
hole
cut
there.
So
you
know
there
are
you
know
many
many
these
these
changes
to
it,
the
the
relevant
historical
relevance
of
them.
I
I,
don't
really
see
it
myself,
but
then
I'm
going
to
go
back
just
moving
through
all
these.
These
modifications
there's
a
window
that
one
I
think
that
is
the
that
is
the
west
side.
It's
a
small
window.
It
actually
goes
to
to
the
to
the
existing
bathroom.
Q
I
haven't
done
it
yet,
but
I've
been
wanting
to
put
a
strip
of
wood
to
emulate
a
glazing
Style
on
the
window
like
I,
have
on
the
front
door
or
the
west
side
entrance
door,
which
is
not
original
either,
but
it's
old,
it's
antique
and
and
I.
It
actually
has
a
transom
above
it
like
I,
said
I,
don't
know
when
all
this
stuff
was
done,
I
tell
you
what
I've
done.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Then
they
are
really
1920s
window
sashes
that
are
just
kind
of
cobbled
together
and
stuck
in
a
cut
hole.
I
haven't
got
to
do
anything
with
that.
One,
because
truthfully
I
would
need
to
build
a
complete
new
window
frame
which
I
would
like
to
match
to
the
window.
The
other
window
on
the
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
I
would
like
to
do
that.
These
sashes
actually
do
match
the
same
size
of
the
window.
That
is
there,
so
it
would
be
perfect.
Q
I've
actually
additionally
purchased
sashes
and
would
like
I'm
the
item
not
ready
to
do
it
at
this
point,
but
at
some
point,
I
would
like
to
get
y'all's
approval
just
to
go
ahead
and
put
another
window
in
farther
in
the
warehouse
that
matches
the
other
two
well
I'm,
not
asking
for
that
approval.
At
this
point,
the
further
back
is
the
and
it's
the
one
with
the
this
is
the
one
with
the
transom
window.
This
is
the
west
side
window
that
most
people
consider
the
primary
entrance.
Q
Q
Q
Q
I
found
these
other
door
panels
and
there
you
know,
would
allow
me
to
have
two
operators,
so
I
basically
took
that
old
door
took
it
apart
to
replace
this
one
single
panel,
there's
two
things
with
that:
one:
it
was
no
longer
operable
I
mean
you
can
literally
see
that
there's
no
way
that
door
ever
did
anything
in
recent
years.
Q
Q
Some
of
the
wood
that
I
replaced
I
actually
used
the
torch
and
wire
wheel
to
to
put
the
patina
back
into
it.
So
a
match.
You
can't
even
imagine
how
hard
it
is
trying
to
make
stuff
match
on
stuff.
That's
could
be
as
much
as
100
years
old
it.
You
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
patience.
I.
Think
I
worked
on
those
doors
for
two
weeks
to
get
that
look.
Q
The
the
two
panel
is
a
necessity
just
from
the
use
that
we're
looking
to
make
this
into
a
you
know
the
coffee
shop,
which
I
think
is
very,
very
Community
Centric,
but
everybody
loves
that
place,
and
this
was
a
way
for
us
to
share
it.
The
the
two
the
two
operating
doors
is
is
a
must
I.
You
can't
have
people
coming
in
and
out
of
a
six
foot
wide
swinging
door.
Q
I
mean
you
can
imagine
that's
just
not
practical,
so
I
mean
we
can
go
through
every
painstaking
detail,
but
the
reality
is
I
have
no
problem
getting
with
the
with
the
with
the
building
department
on
on
any
issues
they
can
come
in
and
inspect
it
I'll
take
stuff
apart.
If
they
want
to
see
it
to
inspect
it,
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
the
but
the
the
you
know
the
missing.
Windows
I,
don't
see
the
point.
There's
there's
no
function
for
them.
Q
You
know
the
one
obviously
is
slightly
different
I.
Don't
really
think
it
affects
the
character
or
the
historic
value
of
the
property,
the
the
big
doors
on
the
loft
I.
Just
don't
see
the
impact
myself
I
mean
the
door.
I
mean
the
building
still
has
that
that
character,
I,
don't
even
know
why
everybody
likes
it.
I
I,
don't
I
had
to
ask
myself
that.
So
why
are
you
so
attracted
to
this
thing?
It's
a
big
chunk
of
Steel
and
for
whatever
reason
everybody
loves
it.
I
can't
explain
it.
Q
It
makes
no
sense,
but
I
really
do
think
the
the
overall
of
this
building
that
my
wife
and
I
really
do
truly
love
is,
is
it's
preserved?
It's
it's
never
been
damaged
by
anything
any
utilitarian.
That's
the
thing
is
it's
utilitarian
and
it
still
maintains
that
utilitarian
look
even
with
at
the
addition
of
these
doors
and
windows
and
whatever
people
have
done
to
it.
Q
It
hasn't
lost
that
you
know
it's
not
something
you
want
to
call
your
house,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
an
industrial
building
that
has
somehow
managed
to
live
for
118
years
and
I.
Think
this
project
will
keep
it
around
and
keep
people
interested
in
it.
We
found
a
sponge
gauge
in
in
the
Attic
or
up
in
the
little
bit.
Aloft
that's
left
in
there
Mr
houlis,
well,
Anthony
houlis.
Q
His
father
is
an
old
old-timer
from
around
here,
and
he
explained
he
started.
He
put
me
on
overlooks
like
drink
from
fire
hose
when
he
started
going
on
about
what
sponges
went
through
there.
Q
What
the
gauge
was
used
for
we're
going
to
hang
that
stuff
up,
I
have
literally
hundreds
of
pictures
that
we're
going
to
hang
up
in
there
for
people
to
see
the
the
the
you
know,
the
the
I've
just
got
so
many
artifacts
and
I
recently
became
a
board
member
on
the
Tarpon
Springs
historical
society
and
with
you
all,
are
we'd
love
to
have
you
all
come
join
that
because
we
don't
have
enough
board
members,
but
but
anyway,
that
that
place
over
there.
Q
It's
the
train
station,
if
you're
not
aware
that
that
is
full
of
it.
It's
got
so
much
of
the
history
in
the
families
of
Tarpon
Springs
that
it's
just
incredible.
What's
in
there,
what
that,
what
that
building
holds
so
much
of
Tarpon
Springs
history,
it's
it's
incredible,
so
I
guess!
In
conclusion,
the
biggest
thing
like
I
said:
I
have
no
problem
getting
with
the
with
the
building
department.
Q
I'm
gonna
have
to
anyway,
I
mean
my
whole
intention,
for
this
is
for
you
guys
to
hopefully
give
me
a
yes
and
I
got
to
go,
pull
a
permit,
so
things
are
going
to
get
straightened
out
there.
The,
but
I'd
really.
Would
you
know
one?
It's
a
matter
of
budget
and
one
the
building
there's
really
nothing
wrong
with
the
building.
The
way
it
is
people
have
given
that
thing
a
lot
of
love
over
the
years.
It
is
what
it
is.
I
don't
see.
Q
A
H
Q
Lady
right
there
will
shoot
me,
we
are
talking
Limited
hours
and
you
know,
there's
we've
made
many
concessions,
just
two
of
us
and
my
contractor,
and
and
talking
with
the
TRC
and
everything
you
know
and
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
stuff
kind
of
griped
me
at
first,
when
the
end
result
is
I
really
like
what
we
have
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
great
addition
to
the
community.
A
Q
Q
That
well
yeah
well
yeah.
That's
something
we
need
to
talk
about
because,
like
the
fence,
I'm,
not
quite
sure
on
the
fence
that
that's
a
it's
a
it's
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
aluminum
technically,
but
it's
it's
a
wrought
iron
fence,
and
it's
really
to
give
it
that
quaint,
Cafe
I,
don't
see
is
where
it's
it's
period,
correct,
I,
don't
see
where
it
detracts
from
the
building.
I
know
the
you
know:
I
know
it
doesn't
match
the
chain
link
fence,
but
the
the
chain
link
fence
belongs
to
the
industrial
history
of
the
building.
Q
The
the
wrought
iron
fence
belongs
to
the
cafe.
I
mean
I've,
seen
plenty
of
historical
buildings
with
nice
wrought
iron
fences
around
for
Traffic
Control
to
keep
people
where
they're
not
supposed
to
go
or
whatever
I
I'm,
not
sure,
I
understand
the
conflict.
There
I
mean.
If
you
can
explain
it
to
me,
then
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
another
option,
but
I
will
say
one
thing
we
I
do
own
the
property
across
the
street
and
one
of
the
caveats:
those
are
commercial,
the
houses
that
are
across
the
street,
that
is
commercial
property.
Q
It
is
wd-1a,
and
one
of
the
caveats
was
to
put
this
six
foot
tall
iron
fence.
I,
don't
know
where
that
came
from
when
Mr
weikel
was
negotiating
all
that,
but
I
do
know.
That
was
one
of
the
things
I
had
to
agree
to
put
up
this.
This
iron
fence
and
I
said
no
problem.
I
thought
it
looked
nice
and
this
kind
of
it's
be
the
same
kind
of
fence.
It
kind
of
fits
with
the
neighborhood,
the
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
say
about
it
other
than
that
I
mean.
D
Think
we've
approved
different
materials
for
fences
in
the
past,
but
they've
had
some
sort
of
break
in
between
am
I
am
I.
D
If
it
was
more
than
50
feet,
there
had
to
be
something,
but
I
thought
it
was
that
that
the
the
big
white
condo,
that
was
a
church
or
something
I
thought
there
were
two
different
fencing.
G
I
Staff
recommendations,
yes,
Steph,
did
not
recommend
approval
of
the
two
different
materials.
Q
Q
We're
going
to
keep
the
the
black
mesh
maintained,
which
to
me
kind
of
makes
it
disappear.
I
I
mean
personally
I,
don't
like
chain
link
fence
I,
don't
know
why
anybody
would
put
one
up
around
their
house
and
I
hope:
I'm,
not
offending
anybody
I
mean
because
they
they
have
that
industrial
look
and
feel,
but
the
you
know
with
the
black
mesh
over
it.
It
really
just
kind
of
disappears
back
there
and
I.
A
F
Q
B
Q
Oh,
thank
you.
Yeah
I'll
be
happy
to
talk
about
that.
We
have
had
the
solution
this.
If
I
say
we,
the
city
have
had
the
solution
for
that
for
years,
we're
not
talking
months
years
and
the
I
keep
I
well.
I
was
told
that
it
will
probably
get
financed
this
year,
which
means
I,
think
the
engineering
I
don't
know.
I
can't
say
that
I
don't
know
if
I've
been
told
so
many
things
that
I
don't
even
know
anymore.
Do
you
know
at
all?
Q
Q
Well,
Tony
Tony
told
us
it's
on
the
five-year
I.
Don't
tell
you
I,
don't
like
it
I
to
be
honest
with
you,
we
suffer
with
it
because
in
fact,
Mr
paza.
His
applies
of
his
his
house
is
on
he's
two
doors
down
for
me.
We
literally
King
tides.
It's
up
to
my
niece.
B
Q
Honestly,
I
bought
the
property,
so
I'm
not
complaining.
I
I
bought
the
property,
knowing
that
was
a
condition.
I
didn't
know
that
I'd
have
and
I
will
and
I
and
I'm,
not
complaining
about
Tarpon
overall,
but
you
always
have
the
few
people
that
they're
just
stupid.
I'm,
sorry
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
They
go
plowing
down
the
street
at
30
miles
an
hour.
Our
cars
in
the
driveway
literally
get
covered
in
salt,
water,
I,
I
mine
I
have
the
white
rock
around
that
corner.
Q
The
reason
I
did
that
was
because
the
grass
won't
grow
there,
so
that
was
as
close
as
I
could
get
my
grass
to
the
street.
Well
didn't
know:
I,
should
you
know?
Well,
I,
don't
know
if
if
Granite
would
even
work,
the
problem
I
have
with
that
is
now
I
have
to
go
rake
the
Limestone
rock
out
of
my
grass.
Every
time
we
have
a
king
tide
because
people
drive
by
and
they
push
the
water.
E
Q
Q
The
the
well
I
think
one
of
the
things
I've
put
in
here
is
the
riprap
I
want
to
put
some
sizable
rip
wrap
along
that
corner
by
by
the
fire.
Hydrant
I'm
gonna
have
to
talk
to
the
fire
department
about
how
close
I
can
get
to
that
for
their
sake,
but
that's
just
really
to
mitigate
the
water
from
the
same
problem.
I'm
just
describing
at
my
house
and
I
think
it'll,
look
nice!
Q
It's
a
waterfront,
Community
everybody's
used
to
seeing
rip
rap
on
water,
so
I
think
that'll
help
the
parking
lot
as
per
the
drawing
is
pretty
much
the
same.
We
are
doing
geologicals
and
we're
we're
considering
moving
the
retention
Pond,
which
really
doesn't
affect
you
guys,
but
we're
going
to
move
that
in
the
back.
So
it
won't
even
be
seen
if
we
do
that.
Q
Yeah-
let's
talk
about
that
that
I
like
that,
but
the
problem
is
the
sign
that
we
want
to
put
up
there,
one
when
whoever
did
the
door
it's
partially
covered
at
the
bottom
anyway,
and
I
want
to
take
it
and
just
shrink
it
a
little
bit
and
move
it
over
and
down
from
the
maybe
maybe
only
down
about
a
foot
and
off
to
the
left
of
the
door
opening
a
little
bit
because
I
guess
I'm
going
to
have
to
sell
sponges,
because
everybody
asked
me
that
I
probably
get
asked
I,
don't
know
three
four
times
a
week.
Q
No
I
said
that's
on
the
building,
but
I
don't
even
sell
anything
yet,
but
yeah
I'd
like
to
retain
that
and
and
I
want
to
paint
the
ER
mirrors.
Q
I
cannot
find
the
picture,
but
it
I've
had
a
picture
one
time
where
it
was
on
the
top
left
corner,
not
real
big
about
like
that
on
the
corner
of
the
building,
and
it's
an
ER
mirror
sponge
sponge
packing
I
want
to
do
that,
paint
it
black
and
then
hand
sand
it
down
to
the
aluminum
paint
to
give
it
that
faded.
Patina,
look.
B
Q
I'd,
like
your
approval,
to
do
that
and
then
the
sign
that
we
want
would
actually
be
made,
wouldn't
be
3D.
It
would
be
just
thin
laser
cut
metal
of
a
model
of
a
Model
A
splashing
through
the
water.
It's
kind
of
our
play
on
the
whole
high
tide,
trying
to
make
trying
to
make
fun
out
of
that
whole
situation.
J
Q
It
is
cool
I,
there's
picture
and
on
on
and
I
didn't
go
into
the
roof.
The
roof
is
the
original
roof
best.
I
can
tell
do
that
change
somewhere
in
118
years,
I
don't
know,
but
it
is
the
same
patina
on
the
bottom
side
of
that
roof.
It
looks
amazingly
good
by
the
way
is
the
walls
now
the
outsides?
What
suffers?
Q
That's
where
the
galvanized
wore
off
that
roof
from
pictures
I've
seen
actually
over
at
the
train
station,
was
rusted
really
bad
and
from
what
I
understand
the
last
owner,
or
maybe
the
owner
before,
took
a
saw
and
just
trimmed
the
end
off
and
then
painted
it
with
what
everybody's
seen
is
the
it's,
the
Atari
kind
of
pitchy
aluminum
paint
and
that's
what
they
did.
They
painted
the
whole
roof.
Q
I
believe
they
painted
the
the
whole
thing
aluminum
so
which
I
I
think's
fine,
just
closer
you're,
going
to
get
to
a
galvanized
building.
B
J
H
Public
comments
on
this
again
just
remember
that
they
should
be
relevant
to
the
matters
that
this
board
is
considering
and
then
also
that
they
are
limited
to
four
minutes
per
their
rules
of
procedure.
Thank.
S
You
Laura
Slocum
69,
West,
Park,
Street
I,
just
I
realized
that
the
previous
owner,
Gus
turakis,
was
never
allowed
to
make
any
changes
to
the
historic
building.
I
understand
the
excitement
of
somebody
wanting
to
start
a
business,
but
I
really
hope
that
the
residents
in
this
area
are
considered.
We
are
a
neighborhood
person
came
along
with
the
letter
I'm
in
agreement
with
it.
I
signed
it
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
issues.
S
Part
of
the
quaintness
of
living
in
Tarpon
is
having
the
historic
landmarks
unchanged.
We've
already
heard
testimony
from
someone
that
you
know.
Unfortunately,
some
of
the
downtown
area
wasn't
allowed
to
keep
that
nature.
So
I
would
just
urge
you
to
keep
that
in
mind.
I
think
it's
unfortunate
that
you're
required
to
vote
on
these
before
the
business
permit.
S
That
seems
kind
of
backwards,
because,
obviously,
if
someone's
going
to
put
the
money
into
building
a
warehouse,
building
a
parking
lot
and
all
of
that
who's
going
to
deny
the
business
permit,
so
it
kind
of
leaves
us
as
the
residents
with
not
much
of
a
right
I
feel
the
other
concern
is
if
this
building
is
allowed
to
do
that,
we
have
another
building
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
street,
that
used
to
be
a
packing
plant.
So
how
many
more
years
is
that
going
to
be
a
business?
S
I,
don't
have
all
the
answers,
but
I
just
think
that
this
is
going
to
draw
too
many
people
driving
more
vehicles,
and
it's
just
not
going
to
keep
the
historic
nature
of
that
building.
That's
also
so
close
to
St,
Michael's
and
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
T
How
you
doing
bill
Plaza,
419,
Roosevelt,
Boulevard
I,
moved
across
the
street
from
the
smart
building
in
2016
and
I've,
been
to
this
board
meeting
several
times
with
the
previous
owner.
That
promised
to
do
some
beautifications
and
upkeep,
which,
unfortunately,
you
guys
don't
have
any
power
to
force
anybody
once
you
even
approve
it.
You
know
that's
and
that's
bad,
because
you
know
people
get
excited
about
certain
things,
and
just
like
you
do
you
know
he
said.
T
Oh,
this
is
great,
but
then
nobody
can
do
anything
about
it,
even
though
you
approve
it,
so
the
previous
owner
has
not
done
any
improvements
that
they
promised
the
chain
link
fence
that
went
in
he
put
this
black
cloth.
That's
not
a
historic
way
of
really
guarding
a
place.
I
think
that
was
a
current
owner
proposes
is
something
that
probably
will
fit
the
period
a
lot
better
than
the
changling
Fang
fancy
itself.
T
T
Maybe
the
career
owner
hopes
there's
going
to
be
this
destination,
but
it's
it's
not.
He
puts
the
model
A
over
there,
people
stop
by
all
the
time.
We
can't
stop
that.
I
think
that
at
least
the
proposed
project,
the
scope
of
it
it
preserves
the
building.
He
preserves
the
heritage
of
Tarpon
Springs,
and
it
shows
that
what
it
was
before
we
have
many
sponge
buildings
over
here
that
nobody
wants
to
do
anything
with
it.
They're
all
falling
apart.
So
in
your
consideration,
I
know
that
you're
not
looking
at
the
usage
of
it.
T
I
Yes,
just
a
couple
of
points,
so
the
applicant
noted
that
didn't
see
what
we
were
to
gain
by
retaining
the
original
Loft
doors.
Well
we'd
be
retaining
a
historic
feature
of
the
structure
that
pays
homage
to
what
it
used
to
function
at
doesn't
see
the
historic
relevance
of
the
building.
Well,
this
building
is
individually
listed
on
the
national
register,
which
means
it
was.
It
was
listed
before
we
had
a
National
Historic
District.
This
building
is
very
significant
to
the
history
of
town.
So
that's
like
exception
with
that.
I
The
Advocate
noted
that
steel
bars
are
hideous
well
in
the
Florida
Master
site
file.
It's
noted
as
one
of
its
distinctive
features
that
again
pays
homage
to
its
previous
use.
As
an
industrial
sponge
packages
Warehouse,
the
applicant
noted
that
the
door
was
no
longer
operable.
I
I
I
can
understand
that
if
proper
procedure
had
been
followed
and
he
had
brought
an
application
in
front
of
this
board
to
replace
that
door,
maybe
we
could
have
talked
about
a
custom
door
that
replicated
the
look
of
the
original
door,
but
has
two
doors
in
it,
but
that
that
wasn't
followed
doesn't
see
the
point
of
maintaining
the
windows
or
Loft
doors
in
there.
No
I
get
to
talk
as
long
as
I
want,
doesn't
see
the
point
of
the
keeping
the
dimensions
of
the
windows
or
locked
doors.
I
Well,
that's
what
was
originally
there
and
that's
one
of
your
main
points
of
review
standards
and
again-
and
the
applicant
spoke
of
wanting
to
hang
all
these
pictures
to
the
history
but
didn't
really
see
the
historic
relevance
of
the
building.
The
last
point
I'd
like
to
make
is
the
applicant
kept
pointing
out
that
he
had
put
this
faded,
patina,
look
and
a
distressed.
Look
on
the
unpermitted
doors
that
he
put
in
and
I'd
like
to
note
that
you
know
one
of
your
one
of
your
guidelines
is
that.
I
That
we
shall
not
attempt
to
create
an
earlier
appearance
appearance
than
the
original
date
of
construction
changes
that
have
taken
place
over
the
course
of
time
or
evidence
of
history
and
the
development
of
the
subject.
Property
may
have
acquired
some
some
significance
in
their
own
right.
So
some
of
these
historic
changes
that
took
place
over
time
in
the
20s
30s
50s
40s,
who
knows
even
later
than
that,
may
have
their
own
significant,
but
we
shouldn't
try
and
make
thing
new
things.
Look
like
they're
old,
that's
that's
in
your
guidelines,
and
so
that's
about
it.
I
B
A
Okay,
are
you
done.
Q
I
didn't
mean
to
I.
Think
I
was
misunderstood
about
the
significance
it
was
not
toward
the
building
at
all,
I
mean
I.
Think
I've,
pretty
much
shown
you
that
I
love
and
respect
the
building
their
sheet
metal
holes
that
we're
talking
about,
and
actually
you
can
still
see
the
sheet
metal
hole
above
the
the
current
door
in
there
in
there
now
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
we're
going
to
gain
by
putting
a
functional.
It's
not
one.
That's
not
even
practical.
Q
Now,
with
the
structure,
the
way
it
is
to
try
and
put
a
functional
whatever
that
was
door
flat,
whatever
the
the
other,
the
other,
the
one
in
the
back.
Where
the
fan
is,
isn't
you
really
can't
even
see
it
from
the
street?
I
mean
you
guess
you
can
see
the
fan
from
the
street,
but
I
just
I,
don't
understand
the
the
historical
relevance
of
a
piece
of
sheet
metal
versus
a
a
fan
that
actually
looks
like
that
belongs
in
the
building,
because
it
is
old.
Q
The
as
far
as
the
is
the
the
the
door
goes,
I
believe
that
door
was
in
the
building
and
I
I
kind
of
take
issue
with
the
fact
that
I'm
not
trying
to
make
that
door
anything.
It's
not.
Q
When
you
restore
patina,
you
can't
just
take
and
put
a
new
piece
of
wood
in
a
in
a
door
that
is
literally
I
mean
looks
like
it's
been
sandblasted.
You
just
can't
do
it.
It
looks
hideous.
You
know
it
would
be
like
taking
brand
new
sheet
metal
and
trying
to
patch
that
building
you
can't
it's
gonna
you
might
as
well
see
it
you'll,
see
it
from
thirty
thousand
feet.
Q
So
my
intention
was
to
restore
the
the
look
and
feel
of
the
building
was
no
disrespect
to
the
building,
no
disrespect
to
to
the
board
that
I
did
what
I
did
and
I
will
tell
you
just
for
some
history.
I
started
out
on
this
building
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
This
is
an
arduous
process,
went
to
Pat,
Patricia
McNeese,
who
I
love
and
adore
I'm,
not
trying
to
throw
her
under
the
bus,
but
I
said
wanted
to
start
the
process.
Q
Q
In
fact,
my
contractor
will
attest
to
this.
I've
got
emails
that
show
where
it
was,
and
then
it
wasn't
so
really
During
the
period
that
I
did
that
door.
The
building
had
no
historical
significance.
We
are
actually
happy
that
the
door
I
mean
that
the
the
building
ended
up
being
historical,
because
it
has
some
connotations
with
it
as
far
as
building
because
of
the
age
and
the
fact
that
it
is
historically
significant.
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
elevation
of
the
building.
It's
grandfather
Den.
Q
If
it
hadn't
been
it,
it
probably
would
ended
up
putting
me
in
a
situation
if
it
hadn't
been
historic
that
it
would
have
been
cheaper
to
tear
it
down,
because
there's
no
way
you
can
take
a
building
that
that
that's
that
old
and
bring
it
up
to
today's
codes.
So
it
was
on
again
off
again
things
happen,
sorry
about
it.
Well,
like
I
said
it
was
no
disrespect
to
to
you
guys
to
to
You,
Caroline
or
or
to
Tarpon
Springs.
Thank
you.
D
No
I
think
you
have
to
make
the
motion
and
then
talk
about
it.
Don't
we
have
to
make
the
motion
and
then
discuss
it.
A
E
B
A
Q
Okay:
okay,
that's
what
I'm
asking
for
that
way,
then
all
I
got
to
do
is
worry
about
getting
building
department.
Get
it
up
to
code.
Okay,
would
not
substantially
change,
actually
not
really
change
the
only
thing.
The
only
changes
to
that
building
is
the
way
you
see
it
right
now.
The
only
changes
that
we're
really
proposing
is
the
Ada
ramp,
which
we
tried.
Everything
there
was
no
way
to
get
it
anywhere,
but
in
the
front
of
you
know,
in
one
of
the
front
I
mean
it's
got
two
frontages
we
want
to
build
it.
Q
I
want
to
build
it.
Try
to
do
weathered
wood.
You
know
whether
TR,
whether
the
Treads
put
a
black
iron
pipe
handrail
for
cut.
You
know
for
things
to
meet
code,
but
make
it
look
period.
Correct,
okay
and
again,
I,
don't
think
that's
a
misrepresentation
of
the
building
to
me,
an
industrial
building
with
a
ramps,
almost
kind
of
fits
anyway,
okay,
but
I'm
not
proposing
any
any
changes
to
the
building
I'm.
That's
what
I'm
asking
you
is
accept
it
the
way
it
is
other
than
just
fixing.
What's
broke.
Okay,.
A
K
A
B
A
Okay,
I
think
we
need
to
say
okay
from
here
on,
you
know
everything
stays
it's
there
right
now,
okay
and
then,
when
it
comes
time
to
change
out
something,
then
you
negotiate
and
try
and
stay
within
the
historical
end
of
it.
But
I
think
we
have
to
have
us,
particularly
with
this
building.
We
have
to
have
a
starting
point.
H
No
okay,
so
so
what
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
board
is
what
the
actual
request
is
for
per
the
materials
that
we
have
and
then
to
make
it
clear
for
you
all
what
the
conditions
are
right.
F
H
With
the
actual
certificate
of
approval
is
for
is
to
construct
a
new
1200
square
foot
Warehouse
on
the
property,
not
tear
this
one
down
or
change
it,
but
construct
a
new
1200
square
foot.
Warehouse,
add
Ada
ramp
to
the
front
entry
paver
walkways,
Drive
apron
and
Ada
parking
space,
fenced,
paver
patio
and
grassy
dog
area
relocate
fencing
along
Roosevelt
to
create
a
gravel
parking
area,
install
riprap
to
offset
high
tide,
wake,
create
a
retention
area,
new
signage
and
convert
existing
gravel
areas
to
Define
parking
spaces.
That
is
what
your
approval
request
is
for.
A
H
What
I
am
saying
is
that
one
of
the
conditions
that
staff
is
recommending
is
for
the
unpermitted
work
on
the
doors
and
windows
to
be
redone
in
accordance
with
historically
accurate
standards.
So
the
condition
here
that
says,
unpermitted
work
must
be
remedied
in
consultation
with
planning
and
zoning
and
Building
Development
staff
I
mean
that
the
windows
and
doors
must
approximate
historic,
architectural
features
and
require
staff
review
and
approval.
So
those
two
conditions
in
here
what
you're,
you're
actually
and
then
the
third
one
too
the
historic
window
and
door
dimensions
will
be
restored.
H
A
H
They
did
need
a
permit,
they
were
supposed
to
get
a
permit
and
when
staff
gave
their
presentation,
they
mentioned
that
they
were
going
to
go
through
this
process
rather
than
the
code
enforcement
process,
and
that
those
first
three
conditions
would
remedy
the
non-compliance.
I
think
either
way
that
they
eventually,
even
if
you
leave
the
conditions,
even
if
you
pass
this
without
those
first
three
conditions,
they
would
still
have
to
go
back
and
get
after
the
fact
permits.
H
Yeah
see,
that's
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
legal
conundrum
here,
because
yeah.
Ultimately,
they
really
would
need
your
approval
to
do
that
anyway.
Otherwise,
you
would
just
be
requiring
them
to
put
it
back
in
exactly
the
same
way
that
it
was
yeah.
F
H
T
G
G
D
G
Which
the
fencing
across
the
street,
because
which
is
kind
of
the
entrance
to
that
street,
if
you
think
about
it,
so
it
kind
of
makes
that
90
degree
turn.
It's
wrought.
Iron
here
wrought
iron
here,
they're
proposing
putting
wrought
iron
in
the
front
which
I
get
it's
two
types
of
fencing,
but
it
is
an
industrial
building
and
I've.
G
D
Actually,
I
was
thinking
of
that
too,
and
just
changing
the
number
five
to
saying
fencing
will
require
staff
review.
N
D
Do
away
with
consistent
with
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
design,
review
guidelines,
and
it's
still,
the
fencing
would
still
have
to
be
reviewed
by
staff
and
I
guess
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
they
would
come
to
some
sort
of
agreement
on
a
mixture
of
fencing.
H
I
Clarify
that
okay,
so
when
they
go
for
their
building,
permit,
that
permit
will
come
to
me
to
be
reviewed
to
make
sure
that
it
is
in
compliance
with
whatever
you
agree
to
today.
So
I'd
need
you
to
clarify
to
clarify
on
the
staff.
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
wrought
iron
I.
Actually
much
prefer
it
to
the
chain
link
it's
much
nicer,
but
it
in
the
design
review
guideline
manuals.
It
says
that
you
shall
not
mix
to
type.
I
That's
not
recommended
so
I'd
like
to
see
the
wrought
iron
used
all
the
way
around.
But
if
you
are
okay
with
mixing
it,
I'll
I
can
make
sure
in
my
review
of
their
fence,
permit
that
the
new
portion,
the
new
wrought
iron,
is
up
to
the
guidelines.
I
A
Q
Were
born
ready,
yeah
can
I
make
just
a
quick
comment
on
that
fence.
The
the
chain
link
fence
would
be
minimalized
to
the
back
of
the
compound
pretty
much
out
of
public
view.
The
one
section
between
the
new
building
and
the
old
building
would
be
would
be
chain
link
the
the
one
side
of
the
building
on
the
South
Side.
Q
That
I
mean
we
need.
We
need
a
fence
with
the
with
the
screen
covering
for
like
our
dumpster.
The
dumpster
has
to
be
rolled
out,
there's
no
way
because
the
overhead
power
lines
and
stuff
that
I
can
do
a
dumpster
containment.
So
it's
a
nice
way
of
keeping
keeping
the
commercial,
because
you
know
there's
still
going
to
be
a
commercial
aspect
of
that
building.
Q
It
keeps
that
from
the
public
View
and
the
other
fence,
like
I
said,
is
completely
away
from
that
fence
and
we
can
submit
like
stuff
when
we
put
the
permit
in
which
I'm
assuming
we're
going
to
have
to
anyway
well
what
the
actual
design
of
that
fence
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
But
it
really
is
just
you
know.
Our
plan
was
just
to
put
a
wrought
iron
fence
with
posts
around
that
perimeter
of
that
patio
area.
That's
it.
A
U
Yes,
my
name's
Thomas
welcome
I'm
a
69
West
Park
Street.
Also,
you
guys
have
been
talking
about
this
building
itself
and
how
I
know
you.
Some
of
you
were
worried
about
how
they're
going
to
make
the
changes
of
the
building.
My
question
is:
is
all
the
other
stuff
he
wants
to
do
this,
a
this
patio,
this
1200
square
foot
building.
He
wants
me.
What's
that
going
to
do
the
Integrity
of
the
property?
U
How
is
that
going
to
change
compared
to
what
this
actual
historical
building
itself,
because
it
is
a
historical
landmark
because
it
has
a
stamp
right
on
it?
No
matter
what
the
squaring
zone
is
that
building
itself
is
a
historical
site
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
moved
this
town
was
because
of
this
historical
site
of
this
town.
This
town
was
not
like
what
we
lived
in
before
who
my
wife
and
I
came
here
12
years
ago.
We
fell
in
love
with
this
town
because
of
all
the
historical
State.
U
Here
we
drove
around
for
hours
just
looking
at
all
the
old
buildings
and
seeing
how
the
new
stuff
is
changing.
I
get
there's
a
new
time,
I
get
how
things
are
moving
forward,
but
this
town
needs
a
fight
to
keep
the
historic.
Because
that's
what
everybody
comes
to
see
you
want
to
see
new
changes,
updated
stuff,
go
down
to
clear
water,
go
down
to
St
Pete's,
that's
all
updated.
This
is
a
historic
town
and
it
needs
a
state,
historic
town.
U
H
Have
you
I,
don't
recall
you
standing
earlier
to
be
sworn
in?
Were
you
sworn
in
when
other
people
were
being.
U
U
So,
like
I
said,
I
get
what
he
wants
to
do.
I
truly
do
I,
just
think
that
nothing
against
him,
because
sometimes
I
think
you
gotta
do
whatever.
But
when
you
change-
and
you
add
so
much
to
that-
because
that's
a
big
section
of
what
and
he's
going
to
really
change
their
honor
and
my
problem
is-
is
with
that.
Flooding
is
going
to
have
so
much
problems
down
there.
It's
just
gonna.
U
U
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
don't
let
people
push
you
to
do
what
you
want.
You
guys
have
always
stayed
structured,
keeping
this
place
historical
and
once
you
start
changing
it,
like
you
said
the
last
time
here
you
know:
well,
we
let
these
people
change
it
back
whenever
snow,
we're
gonna
at
some
point
in
time
we
got
to
say
no
we're
going
to
keep
this
time.
The
way
it
is
you
want
to
do
it
whatever
that's
fine,
but
keep
it
the
way
it
is.
You
can
fix
the
inside.
U
H
Chairman,
because
that
wasn't
really
a
question
that
really
was
additional
testimony,
I
think
that
for
due
process
considerations,
you
have
to
offer
the
city
and
the
applicant
time
to
rebut
anything
that
was
presented
and
that's
that's
their
discretion.
B
A
H
Q
To
to
to
address
the
concern
and
I
get
it
I
really
do
the
new
building
will,
you
know,
obviously
has
an
impact
that
that's
really.
This
discussion
is
more
for
the
the
Planning
and
Zoning
people
we
have
engineered
in
and
we're
I'm
actually
tomorrow
morning
going
to
be
doing
what
working
with
a
contractor
to
do
the
geologics.
That's
what
the
retention's
for
that
that
so
that
the
water
shut
off
of
that
building
is
addressed
in
our
plan.
Q
It's
addressed
for
basically
all
the
new
construction
that
we
plan
to
do
for
the
property
we
are
not
going
to,
but
and
more
likely
going
to
improve
the
water
off
of
that
property
as
it
is,
so
that
really
shouldn't
be
a
concern
and
the
building
really
the
new
building
I
mean
I,
couldn't
put
it
any
farther
and
make
it
disappear.
So
that's
pretty
much
all
I
can
say
about
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
G
It
so
I
would
recommend
that
we
accept
the
staff
recommendations
with
the
the
fencing
what
I'm
sorry,
oh
I'm,
sorry
I
recommend
that
we
accept
staff
recommendations
with
the
one
exception
for
item
five,
accepting
mixed
use
or
mixed
materials
with
the
wrought
iron.
D
F
D
Have
a
question:
can
you
repeat
what
you
said
about
number
five
again
just.
D
A
D
Q
Q
Q
I
We're
hearing
application
2310.
A
A
Okay,
can
we
take
a
break
yes.
E
A
I
So
this
slide
is
showing
the
location
and
context
of
the
subject:
property.
It's
located
in
the
r60
neighborhood
Conservation
District,
surrounded
by
some
other
residential
and
government,
uses
that
we're
currently
in
right
now.
I
So
the
applicant
is
Seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
to
remove
the
existing
Edition,
replace
with
a
slightly
larger
footprint,
replace
Windows,
Doors,
siding,
porch
and
porch
supports
the
existing
metal
roof
with
a
new
metal
roof
and
to
add
a
dormer
to
the
front
facade
at
the
contributing
structure
at
455,
Cypress,
Street,
here's
its
location
on
the
1919
Sanborn
map
and
then
here's
the
footprint
in
the
1926
Sanborn
map.
So
you
can
see
some
of
the
porch.
I
Shows
the
difference
there,
here's
the
picture
from
the
Florida
Master
site
file,
here's
some
of
the
neighboring
properties
for
context.
I
It's
the
west
side
of
the
subject,
structure
and
facade
right
there
to
the
back.
You
can
see
the
existing
Edition
there
is
a
shingle
under
the
metal.
That's
also
noted
in
the
Sanborn
maps
that
it
was
originally
shingle
here.
You
can
see
that
the
original
window
sizes
have
been
altered
to
note
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
restore
the
original
window
sizes,
here's
some
of
the
architectural
features
of
the
property,
the
Gable
and
lose
the
Steep
pitch
roof,
the
wood,
surrounds
wood,
weather
board,
exterior
fabric,
a
center
entrance
and
a
nearly
full
width
porch.
I
There's
a
site
view
of
the
proposed
project.
It
shows
how,
on
with
those
red
lines
there,
how
the
existing
Edition
would
be
slightly
enlarged.
I
Here
are
your
standards
of
review
that
we
need
to
go
over
so
new
construction
consistency.
I
The
only
issue
I
would
have
with
that
is
that
the
Dormer
would
alter
the
the
simple
historic
facade,
windows
and
doors,
so
they've
already
been
replaced
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
restore
them
to
their
historic
proportions
and
replicate
the
materials
at
least
the
style,
neighborhood
and
District
context.
There
would
be
a
minor
alteration
to
the
streetscape
by
adding
the
Dormer
and
a
slight
change
in
building
mass.
By
increasing
that
addition,
the
roof
shape
and
texture,
so
the
original
roof
was
shingles
that
you
can
see
underneath
it,
but
the
structure
has
had
a
metal
roof.
I
That
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
style
for
over
40
years.
The
shape
of
the
roof
would
be
altered
by
the
addition
of
the
Dormer.
The
size
and
massing
would
be
slightly
altered,
Again
by
the
enlarged
Edition
they're,
proposing
to
restore
architectural
features
by
restoring
the
historic
proportions
and
replicating
the
historic
style
of
the
windows.
I
So
the
only
issue
I
would
really
have
with
this
application
is
that
the
addition
of
the
Dormer
is
a
conjectural
feature
inconsistent
with
the
secretary's
standard.
Three
and
vinyl
windows
are
inconsistent.
We
do
sandal
standard
six,
but
they
are
an
improvement
on
the
existing
Windows
of
the
incorrect
proportions.
The
proposed
project
would
comply
with
city
codes.
I
I
I
I
I
So
staff
recommends
approval
as
conditioned,
so
they
should
remove
the
proposed
Dormer
to
maintain
the
historic
facade.
The
final
design
should
incorporate
wood
surrounds
the
vents
just
to
clarify
the
vents
and
Lou
should
be
maintained,
and
a
certificate
of
approval
will
expire
in
three
years
if
they
do
not
get
a
building
permit
for
the
project.
A
Building
building
this
one
in
1910
1920.
with
our
regs
right
here.
At
that
time
they
were
borrowing
parts
or
some
styling
from
the
the
Craftsman
Homes
all
right.
I
I
would
say
that
a
Gable
would
be
more
consistent
with
a
craftsman
style,
home
and
I
would
just
note
that
the
Florida
master
style,
my
own
site
file
for
the
subject,
property
notes
that
the
structure
displays
a
simple
form
with
a
little
roof
overhang
and
a
steep
pitch.
So
adding
ornamentation
would
be
a
conjectural
element.
A
Okay,
because
a
lot
of
the
Craftsman
style
houses
had
the
filmers
on
it,.
D
K
I
No
and
they're
proposing
to
use
a
sighting
that
would
replicate
the
original
materials.
So,
okay.
A
I
The
blue
around
the
framing
and
the
windows.
A
Okay,
so
you're
talking
about
the
corner
pieces
and
yeah
yeah
trim
work
like
that.
The
trim,
okay.
A
Okay:
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
The
applicant.
V
Hi
I'm
Michael
Waters,
and
this
is
my
wife
from
Russia
which
he
didn't
get
sworn
in,
but
if
she
has
to
speak,
she
can
I
just
want
to
thank
Caroline
Lanford
for
her
help
and
Pat
with
niece's
help.
We
came.
We
were
tired,
I've
been
retired
three
years,
my
wife
four
years,
but
probably
five
years
ago
we
decided
to
realizing
we're
going
to
come
to
Florida
in
the
winter
and
where
we're
going
to
go,
and
we
decided
it's
going
to
be
the
West
Coast
and
we
started
looking
here:
Port
Richey
Benin.
V
And
every
time
we
came
back
when
we
came
to
tap
and
springs,
we
said
boy.
This
is
whether
we
were
together
a
pack.
This
is
where
we
want
to
be
and
we
want
to
be
in
the
downtown
the
historic
path.
It
just
happened
to
me
and
we
found
this
house
three
years
ago.
My
wife
found
this
house
and
it
was
that
overgrown
thing
and
I
looked
at
and
I
was
like.
V
Oh
my
God,
but
we
ended
up
buying
it
and
then
I
got
an
education,
but
before
I
bought
it
I
got
an
education
too,
because,
as
we
were
thinking
about
buying
it,
the
real
estate
agent
was
telling
us
well
no
one's
going
to
buy
this
house
anyhow.
You
know
the
zoning
has
been
changed,
so
it
can
be
a
duplex.
V
The
more
I
looked
at
the
more
I
said,
but
it
could
be
saved,
it
could
be,
it
could
be
fixed
and
then
I
got
an
education
and
what
it
means
to
be
contributing
and
with
a
little
bit
of
homework,
that
I
could
help
with
these
people.
I
found
out
when
the
addition
was
put
on
in
1960
and
when
the
windows
would
change
in
1970
and
I.
V
Don't
know
what
I
think
that
porch
was
done
in
1960,
then
I
went
down
to
that
railroad
station
with
historic
thing
is
I
said
you
think
there
are
any
pictures
of
this
house
that
was
a
that
was
a
house
that
someone
was
a
worker
there's.
No
one
was
up
there
taking
pictures
of
those
houses
when
those
were
built,
so
there'll
be
no
photograph.
You
know
we
get
very
hard
to
find
one,
so
we
just
got
a
rendering
and
the
reason
we
want
that
Dormer
on
the
front
is
it's
the
house.
V
It
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
light
to
begin
with,
because
it
has
such
a
the
the
porch
on
the
front
and
whatnot.
We
thought
that
would
be
a
place
to
bring
light
into
the
house.
You
know
because
we'd
Vault
that
up
a
little
bit
inside
there
so
that
that
could
get
into
the
house
they're
not
talking
about
trying
to
go
up
there
and
build
something
up
there
or
anything.
It's
just
another
Avenue
to
bring
light
into
the
house.
V
I.
Don't
even
think
I
think
it
would
be
fixed,
but
maybe
if
we
thought
about
it,
we
might
have
it
so
that
it
could
open
for
ventilation.
So
we
don't
have
to
we're
here
in
the
winter,
though
less
we
have
to
use
the
air
conditioning
or
whatever
the
more
we
want
to
use.
That's
why
we
want
to
put
the
windows
back
to
the
right
size,
so
we
can
naturally
ventilate
the
house
and
actually
make
it
a
greenhouse
then
than
what
it
is
now.
V
So
they
put
back
the
board
and
Baton
I
learned
all
about
that
and
whatnot
so
really
to
restore
the
house
to
what
it
was
and
I
was
amazed
that
last
storm
was
when
that
part
of
the
roof
pulled
off
that
there
was
asphalt
under
there.
I
would
have
made
the
Assumption.
Oh,
it
was
metal
from
day
one.
You.
A
Okay,
just
a
couple
questions
when
I
was
looking
through
the
pictures
you
had
a
section
of
the
outside
wall
pulled
out
and
it
looked
like
a
different
type
of
siding.
V
V
Go
back
with
that
boarding
mountain!
Yes,
sir!
Okay!
Well,
you
know
through
the
whole
house,
through
the
whole
exterior
of
the
house,
yeah,
that's
a
that's!
The
plan
I
already
got
a
place
in
this
city,
lumber
yard.
That
has
a
hard
Pine
board
that
he
said
will
be
perfect
for
that.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
go
with,
because
most
of
that
either
got
termite
damage
or
it's
been.
You
know
it's
110
whatever
it
is
113
years
old,
it's
probably
all
going
to
end
up
coming
off.
V
You
know-
and
that's
you
know
we're
here-
we're
not
only
doing
this
for
ourselves
we're
saving
a
piece
of
History
here
to
the
best
of
our
ability
and
at
you
know,
considerable
expense.
But
it's
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
probably
stay
in
our
family.
We
we
just
12
years
ago
we
bought
a
house
on
Martha's
Vineyard.
That
was
in
the
same
condition,
but
instead
of
being
1200
square
feet,
it
was
2200.
Swift
took
us
about
five
years
to
get
that
house
back
to
where
it
launches.
V
F
V
N
H
N
Just
a
quick
aside:
if
you
go
buy
that
house,
it's
really
God
awful
and
we
went
into
it.
I,
don't
know,
maybe
the
third
or
fourth
time,
because
we
were
looking
at
different
places
and
there
was
a
hole
in
the
roof
and
I
saw
the
ceiling
and
I
said
this
is
the
house.
You
know
he
I
can't
repeat
what
he
said
here
in
public
but
anyway.
N
N
B
F
A
Hearing
none
rebuttal,
I'm
good,
no.
A
A
J
D
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
application
as
presented
with
staff
recommendations,
except
for.
A
E
A
A
K
F
A
I
So
the
project
proposes
the
replacement
of
all
doors.
The
product
sheets
for
the
doors
have
not
been
provided,
but
the
rendering
illustrates
doors
consistent
with
the
original
Style
and
the
doors
are
likely
Beyond
repair.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
they
would
not
be
enlarging
the
door
opening
even.
I
A
Double
windows
on
each
side:
well,
no
problem
with
that.
I
A
C
H
Is
that
the
correct
number
I
have
that
on
this,
that
it's
application,
number
22-137
and
you
read
2310
into
the
record.
So
can
we
clarify
the
application
number
please
I'm,
looking
at
the
last
slide
is
what
I'm
looking
at.
B
B
C
B
F
A
F
F
I
23
12.
yeah,
23
12.
E
A
I
I
This
shows
its
location.
It
is
a
non-contributing
historic
home
and
the
applicant
is
Seeking
a
certificate
of
approval
to
renovate
the
subject
property
by
removing
unsympathetic
additions,
replacing
windows
and
doors
replacement
of
a
cast
dork
pilaster
entryway
roof
with
a
Gable
belt
strayed
replacement
of
the
inset
east,
facing
entryway,
with
a
North
facing
entryway
and
a
new
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
structured
with
a
gabled
roof.
I
I
So
for
height
and
width,
the
proposed
project
would
remove
unsympathetic
additions
to
the
property
and
the
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
property
will
alter
the
original
dimensions
of
the
structure.
However,
the
addition
is
consistent
with
the
character
and
style
of
contributing
structures
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
windows
and
doors,
the
window
dimensions
have
previously
been
altered
and
the
restoration
it's
recommended
that
the
approval
of
the
project
be
conditioned
by
the
restoration
of
the
original
window,
dimensions
and
configurations.
I
I
The
relationship
of
the
structure
and
the
neighborhood
context,
the
proposed
project,
would
restore
the
historic
relationship
of
the
structure
to
the
streetscape
and
by
removing
those
unsympathetic
additions
that
were
obstructed
in
Scenic
views
of
Craig,
Park
and
Spring
Bayou.
I
Size
and
mass
the
proposed
Edition
includes
a
gabled
shingled
roof.
The
historic
structure
think
features
a
flat
roof.
The
our
rev,
our
design
review
guideline
manual
provides
guidance
that
suggests
that
additions
to
flat
roof
buildings
should
generally
also
have
flat
roofs,
but
it
also
says
that
otherwise
flat
roofs
should
be
avoided
if
possible,
but
in
guideline
29
it
notes
that
on
additions
that
they
should
use,
roof
shapes
similar
to
those
found
historically
in
the
district,
and
they
should
be
complementary
to
the
architectural
style
of
the
main
building.
B
I
The
removal
of
the
unsympathetic
alterations
would
begin
to
restore
the
property
and
perhaps
bring
it
closer
to
being
a
contributing
structure.
Then,
rather
now
it's
a
it's
not
contributing,
but
the
proposed
project
includes
significant
alterations
to
the
portacode
facade
entryway
by
relocating
the
door
and
replacing
that
window
also
by
replacing
the
cast
balustrade
Portico
with
a
gabled
portico,
and
so
the
cast
balustrade
Portico
is
a
unique
and
distinctive
feature
of
this
property.
In
addition,
arched
window
surrounds
on
the
facade
and
concrete
Sills
throughout
the
building.
I
Relevant
guidelines
from
the
secretary
so
retaining
the
historic
character
of
the
property,
those
distinctive
features
repairing
rather
than
replacing
whenever
possible,
and
perhaps
most
important
new
additions,
exterior
alterations
or
related
new
construction,
not
not
destroying
historic
materials
and
differentiating
the
old
and
new
I
think
I
missed
it.
I
Sorry
I'm
getting
tired
guys.
So,
yes,
we
do
have
guidelines
on.
I
We
have
Universal
guidelines
for
additions,
I'm,
sorry
so
again,
the
removal
of
those
unsympathetic
additions
is
gonna
is
gonna
improve
the
state
of
the
structure,
but
you
guys
need
to
satisfy
yourselves
that
the
addition
is
subordinate
to
the
original
structure,
particularly
in
guideline
25.
It
notes
that
additions
to
historic
buildings
shall
be
cited
in
order
that
the
principal
building
is
dominant
to
the
addition.
I
I
So
my
staff's
preliminary
recommendation
is
to
recruit,
recommend
approval
with
guidelines
that
the
replacement
windows
on
the
Northern,
Western
and
Eastern
elevations,
restore
historic
window
dimensions
and
use
a
66
window
configuration
the
arched
Windows
round,
design
on
the
Northern
facade,
be
maintained,
maintaining
the
concrete,
Sills
repair
the
cast
bow
straight
over
the
Portico,
rather
on
the
north
and
west
elevations,
rather
than
replacing
it
and
maintaining
the
original
inset
east
facing
entryway,
potentially
also
to
reduce
the
dimensions
of
the
addition
to
be
more
clearly
subordinate
to
the
primary
structure,
utilizing
a
flat
roof
on
the
addition,
and
that
the
certificate
of
approval
will
expire
in
three
years.
I
A
E
I
H
A
A
Of
this
hearing,
okay,
yes,
thank
you.
Okay,
any
questions
before
we
go.
A
R
R
R
E
R
A
A
It
still
doesn't
take
away
from
it
being
in
historical
design.
It's
still
partially
historic.
R
A
Just
another
question:
why
a
gable
roof
well.
R
B
R
R
H
A
H
R
G
I
There
was,
there
was
a
two
or
three
additions:
yeah
it
was
it
I.
Just
to
note,
you
know
that
the
unpermitted
removal
of
those
unsympathetic
features
really
makes
it
more
likely
to
be
a
contributing
structure.
Now
so
yeah.
R
I
It's
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
mismatch.
Mishmash.
I
A
E
R
B
J
You
go
back
to
the
what
it
looks
like
now.
B
H
E
P
P
P
Just
because
things
were
built,
a
certain
way
in
the
20s
doesn't
mean
that
it's
right
now,
for
example,
my
house,
as
you
all
well
know
my
house,
there's
no
way
in
hell.
I
could
have
built
that
block
wall
today
with
you
guys
it
wouldn't
have
been
contributing
well,
I've
changed
the
front
door
of
my
house
was
before
that:
it's
where
it
should
be.
It
wasn't
where
it
should
have
been
on
Lemon
Street.
It's
now
on
that
which
I
think
has
improved
the
house
quite
a
bit.
P
So
what
these
people
are
asking
is
we're
trying
to
improve.
This
house
still
maintain
an
historic
look
to
it
and,
from
a
builder's
point
of
view,
I
think
that
they're
right
in
what
they're
doing
if
I
didn't
I,
would
say
that
too,
but
just
like
I,
don't
think
that
they
should
have
gone
with
the
Gable
on
the
part
of
that.
But
just
my
comments,
questions
well.
A
One
one
of
the
just
talking
one
of
the
things
about
this
house:
that's
unique
is
the
Bella
strata
that
goes
along
it
rather
than
having
a.
P
A
A
P
B
A
A
E
Here
the
Michelle
yeah
right.
A
B
H
E
E
A
Right
in
here,
okay
right
on
the
top,
whereas
now
you
have
the
like,
they
call
it
Bella
Stratos
The,.
E
A
Because
then
we
keep
the
the
character
of.
G
I
Do
not
think
those
windows
are
original
at
all.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
married
to
that,
because
it
is
a
little
conjectural
on
my
part,
but
that's
probably
what
was
there
so
I
I
would
say
that
the
the
arch
window
surrounds
and
the
Sills
are
definitely
original
architectural
features
that
have
probably
been
all
the
ones
on.
The
sides
have
definitely
been
altered,
though.
G
A
Per
person
for
public
comment,
we
can
let
him
talk.
B
P
House
itself
is
wood
frame
with
stucco
nail
to
it
with
the
stuccos
falling
off.
Because
of
the
way
the
house
is
built,
the
front
of
the
house
is
concrete
or
block,
and
that's
why
it
looks
that
way,
but
the
rest
of
the
house
is
all
framed
and
it's
a
mess.
So
the
only
thing
that's
really
original
on
that
whole
thing
is
probably
just
the
front
of
the
house.
B
E
G
Just
have
to
I
mean
it's,
the
elevation
is
there
it's
just.
You
have
to
really
look
at
it
to
understand
it.
It's
not
different
than
a
rendering
it
I.
Think
he's
and
I
can
be.
Misunderstanding
I
just
thought
that
that
was
a
representation
of
what
the
door
could
look
like,
because
it
had
a
similar
line
on
each
side
with
the
column
or
the
the
detail
on
the
side
of
the
door
looks
similar
to
what's
on
the
house.
G
G
Keeping
the
Arches
like
she
mentioned,
keeping
the
concrete
Sills,
but
we
mentioned
allowing
them
to
put
the
door
to
the
front
to
the
spring
side.
So
that
would
be
another
adjustment.
E
Yeah
no.
I
G
A
C
More
time
well,
I
actually
was
going
to
ask.
If
you
could
repeat
like
some
of
the
middle
part,
I
got
recommended
takes
the
six
out.
G
Of
six
out
of
item
number
one
right
to
leave
it
open;
okay,
another
door
to
Facebook.
G
Stay
as
stated
number
three
would
stay
of
State
stated
number
four
would
stay
as
stated
right
and
then
number
five
would
be
allowing
the
entry
door
to
face
Spring,
Street,
okay
and
then
six
and
seven
would
be
estated.
Okay.
It.
A
Would
have
to
put
in
to
enclose
the
entry
porch.
G
C
Okay,
Miss
thin
off.