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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Board February 8, 2016
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C
B
There
are
two
agenda
items:
the
first
one
application
number
15
109
amendments,
Mears
crossing
special
area
plan,
that
is
a
legislative
item
and
will
not
be
held
for
quasi
judicial
proceeding.
However,
application
number
15
76
site
plan
review
for
mayors,
town
center
is
a
quadrant
additional
procedure
and
these
rules
will
apply.
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
board
acts
in
quasi
judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
as
a
quad,
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
B
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
confident
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
B
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
confidence
of
central
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicants.
B
Has
anyone
had
me
excuse
me,
as
are
any
witnesses
that
are
here
to
testify,
either
for
or
against
the
application.
Today,
please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swear
or
affirm
that
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
in
this
proceeding
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
E
C
Of
you
guys
know
Dave,
but
not
everybody
does
dave,
is
actually
Dave
Haley's
going
to
actually
give
the
staff
report.
The
our
consultant
has
worked
feverishly
to
work
on
this
project
simply
because
the
staff
that
you
have
here
are
all
knew
they
weren't
around
when
these
project,
when
this
project
came
forward
previously.
C
So
as
that,
we
wanted
to
have
the
expertise
that
we
do
have
on
staff
here
at
the
city,
provide
the
analysis
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
related
to
the
codes
and
that
type
of
thing,
but
dave
has
a
better
grasp
of
what
has
happened
with
the
history
of
this
project
and
also
he
has
been
on
and
working
on
this
project
even
before
I
got
here
as
far
as
the
request
for
the
second
application
tonight.
So
with
that
I'll
kind
of
give
Dave
the
floor
here.
F
E
F
Heather
thanks,
my
name
is
Dave
Healey
with
Kelvin
jeer,
Donald
associates
working
with
Heather
and
the
staff
to
provide
the
staff
back
up
and
information
for
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
for
the
two
items
tonight,
Heather's
recitation
reminded
me
of
my
main
qualification
is
that
I'm
old
and
I've
been
around
a
long
time
for
whatever
that's
worth,
as
the
attorney
pointed
out,
there's
two
separate
items,
but
they
are
very
much
interconnected.
In
fact,
the
second
is
dependent
on
the
first.
F
The
first
is
an
amendment
of
the
special
area
plan,
which
is
the
plan
designation
for
planned
redevelopment
mixed-use
that
was
applied
to
this
17
acre
property
in
2008.
There
were
two
ordinances
approved
in
2008
ordinance,
2008,
18
and
ordinance
2019
that
amended
the
plan
to
the
plan
redevelop
mixed
use,
designation
under
the
Land
Use
Plan
and
the
SI
p.
F
The
special
area
plan,
zoning
that
was
put
in
place
in
the
diagram
here
and
the
on
the
screen
shows
you
the
concept
plan
that
was
approved
underneath
the
SI
p
of
the
special
area
plan
designation
and
some
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
site,
I'm
sure
it's
been
partially
developed
with
the
winn-dixie
supermarket
and
some
of
the
retail
buildings
to
the
north
of
it.
But
the
majority
the
property
has
not,
and
the
request
tonight
to
amend
the
special
area
plan
is
to
address
specifically
the
residential
component
that
was
approved
underneath
the
original
plan.
G
F
It
was
originally
improved
in
2008,
as
the
staff
report
points
out
is
not
unusual.
With
the
amount
of
time
that's
elapsed,
some
seven
or
more
years
that
the
markets
changed,
the
conditions
have
changed,
and
the
applicant
now
is
requesting
the
amendment
of
the
special
area
plan
to
do
something
slightly
different,
but
still
residential
in
nature.
F
With
an
apartment
complex,
it
outlines
in
the
staff
report
that
originally
there
were
approved,
362
residential
dwelling
units,
242
apartments
and
some
120
Senior
Living
facilities,
in
addition
to
the
square
footage
approved
for
the
for
the
retail
part
of
the
project.
The
request
is
to
amend
the
special
area
plan
for
the
ten
point:
nine
acres
that
remain
to
be
developed
to
address
the
residential
portion
of
it
and
in
two
phases.
F
F
Well,
there
we
go
potentially
long-term,
in
fact
to
be
used
if
alternative
accommodations
can
be
made
for
the
storm
water
to
be
developed
with
some
of
the
office
and
research
complex.
That
was
proposed
originally
as
part
of
the
special
area
plan.
What
I've
done
on
page
two
of
the
staff
report
I
think
it's
important
for
the
Planning
Board
to
understand
exactly
what's
changed
and
I've
tried
to
enumerate
both
what's
stayed
the
same
and
what's
changed
so
that
you
can
have
a
firm
understanding
of
that
and
ask
questions
about
it.
F
The
proposed
236
unit,
multi-family
residential
project,
is
consistent
with
a
type
and
scale
of
what
was
proposed,
originally
slightly
smaller,
slightly
fewer
units
by
six
than
originally
proposed.
The
entry
roadway
from
us
alternate
19
and
the
traffic
circle,
and
the
main
north-south
road
that
runs
from
mirrors
and
connects
with
the
hospital
site
remains
as
it
was
originally
designed.
F
So
those
were
important
components
and
considerations
in
that
original
plan.
One
of
the
key
ones
is
to
make
sure
this
site
connected
to
the
hospital
site
for
interconnectivity,
some
of
the
things
that
have
changed
our
that
the
apartment
complex
includes.
All
of
the
property
south
of
the
winn-dixie
site,
whereas
previously
it
was
divided
up
where
the
apartments
were
congregated
more
in
a
portion
of
the
site
and
the
very
north
portion
of
the
site
was
for
office
and
potentially
senior
housing,
although
that
was
never
really
defined
in
terms
of
what
that
meant.
G
F
So
that
remains
to
be
seen,
but
all
of
the
entitlements
remain
if
they're
able
to
achieve
those
on
the
remainder
of
the
site,
the
full
complement
of
office
space
that
would
be
desirable,
and
that
would
ultimately
come
back
to
you
as
an
additional
site
plan
review
item
where
that
to
be
proposed,
unbalanced.
What
staff
has
said,
or
simply,
is
that
on
the
whole,
we
think
it's
consistent
with
the
original
concept.
F
The
first
is
the
legal
description.
The
second
is
a
special
area
plan,
as
originally
adopted.
The
first
slide
we
show
exhibit
three
shows
you
the
slides
two
and
three
that
show
the
second
and
third
phases
of.
What's
proposed
and
lastly,
exhibit
for
a
letter
of
confirming
compliance
with
resolution
2082,
that
was
the
resolution
approved
by
the
City
Council
City
Commission,
that
required
Mears
Boulevard
to
be
extended
as
a
condition
of
this
project
going
forward,
and
we
are
maintaining
that
as
an
explicit
condition
of
our
recommendation
here.
F
So,
in
short,
our
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
amendment
to
the
special
area
plan
per
the
attached
illustrations
with
four
conditions.
The
first
is
that,
ultimately,
this
the
site
plan
that
accompanies
this
get
approved
as
it
is
proposed.
Secondly,
that
Mears
Boulevard
in
fact
be
constructed
and
approved
prior
to
any
certificate
of
occupancy
for
these
residential
units.
F
F
Thirdly,
the
satisfaction
of
a
condition
that
was
in
a
settlement
agreement
under
the
terms
of
the
original
ordinance,
the
state
of
Florida,
contested
that
ordinance
back
in
two
thousand
eight
and
had
to
do
with
development
in
the
coastal,
high
hazard
area
and
evacuation
and
shelter.
Space
condition.
F
Number
three
relates
to
the
specific
wording
in
that
settlement
agreement
that
was
approved
by
the
state
and
the
city,
and
we
need
to
be
sure
that
that's
met,
and
that
is
that
there
be
a
study
conducted
and
funded
by
the
app
and
relative
to
the
potential
ability
for
the
first
united
methodist
church
to
serve
as
a
shelter.
We
know
we
can't
guarantee
the
church
would
agree.
F
We
need
to
know
whether
it's
potentially
available
in
terms
of
the
hardening
we
need
to
occur
and
then,
lastly,
the
approval
of
all
the
site
plan
and
permitting
requirements
for
the
multifamily
portion
that
you'll
deal
with
in
the
site
plan
itself.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
separate
clearly
the
two
separate
items.
Those
are
the
conditions
that
attach
to
the
special
area
plan.
There
are
additional
and
more
specific
conditions
and
we'll
deal
with.
We
talk
about
the
site
plan,
any
questions
of
me
and
then
I'll,
I'm
sure
the
applicant
may
want
to
be
heard.
I
E
E
A
F
As
you
read,
the
staff
report
you'll
see
a
lot
of
the
same
information
repeated
because
we're
obviously
talking
about
essentially
the
same
property.
A
few
of
the
specifics
to
point
out
are
a
little
more
in
detail.
We
are
talking
now
specifically
about
the
10.9
acres
that
are
not
yet
developed,
6.5
of
those
of
which
are
to
be
occupied
by
the
apartment
complex.
The
other
four
would
remain
to
be
developed
in
a
subsequent
phase
and
require
a
separate
site
plan.
Some
of
the
specifics
for
the
site
plan.
F
Documentation
and
data
in
in
the
2008
traffic
study,
for
example-
and
they
are
consistent
with
that,
because
there
are
in
fact
fewer
residential
units
built
on
a
larger
area,
there's
in
fact
less
traffic
depth
to
be
generated
and
was
proposed
under
the
original
proposal.
It
will
be
consistent
with
the
zoning
requirements
to
the
extent
that
you
approve
the
specifics
of
this
special
area
plan
you
do
have
in
the
backup
of
the
staff.
F
The
comments
reviewed
by
the
technical
review
committee,
the
density
on
the
total
17
acres
of
this
residential
components
about
14
units,
an
acre
not
excessive
at
all,
on
the
six-and-a-half
units,
an
acre
itself,
it'll
be
about
36
units,
an
acre
but
as
compared
to
overall
and
what
was
originally
approved
in
the
special
area
plan.
It's
consistent
with
that.
There
are
five
buildings.
The
first
closest
to
the
winn-dixie
is
a
four-story
building,
slightly
different
configuration
than
the
other
four.
The
other
four
are
three
stories.
One
of
those
three
story:
buildings.
G
F
Think
that
number
than
building
one
is
closest
to
winn
dixie
is
four
stories.
Building
to
that
building
closest
to
the
street
is
three
stories:
two
stories
of
two
living
levels
over
parking,
the
other
three
buildings
behind
it
and
to
the
south
of
it
are
three
stories
from
at
above
grade
the
parking
we
went
through
several
different
exercises
with
the
applicant,
the
actual
computed
parking
requirements
of
404
spaces.
F
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
let
me
correct
that
the
number
we
would
start
with
would
be
442
required
spaces
based
on
the
number
of
units
based
on
the
facility
and
the
pool
some
442.
They
have
an
automatic
entitlement
to
a
ten
percent
reduction
per
the
code,
section
127
point:
zero.
Five
of
the
code
allows
them
to
reduce
the
required
parking
by
ten
percent.
F
Given
its
proximity
and
immediate
adjacency
to
the
Pinellas,
Trail
and
they've,
taken
advantage
of
part
of
that
entitlement,
it
actually
works
out
to
a
little
less
than
the
ten
percent
that
they
would
be
entitled
to.
So
the
parking
is
in
accord
with
the
code
and
doesn't
require
any
further
provision.
They
are
also
providing
our
suggestion.
Some
bicycle
racks
for
bicycle
racks.
That
will
be,
we
hope,
eville
used
for
the
tenants
in
the
apartment
complex
with
the
adjacency
to
the
trail.
F
F
F
We
are
recommending
approval
in
that
it
is
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
your
land
development
code,
subject
to
a
number
of
specific
conditions.
There
are
13
of
them.
I
won't
read
them
all
to
you,
but
they
are
all
important.
The
first
three
are
kind
of
typical
that
they
obviously
get
the
requisite
permit
for
tree
removal
or
construction
plans,
approved
consistent
with
a
site
plan
and
the
site
plan.
F
The
construction
permits
be
obtained
within
one
year
of
site
plan
approval
the
two
or
three
that
I
would
call
your
special
attention
to
that
I
think
are
key
to
our
recommendation.
Are
the
extension
of
Mirrors
Boulevard
be
completed
consistent
with
that
original
resolution
prior
to
the
first
certificate
of
occupancy
that
the
amendment
a
special
area
plan.
F
That
is
consistent
with
a
site
plan
be
adopted
by
the
by
the
City
Commission.
Obviously,
your
recommendation
on
the
site
plan
will
be
attached
to
and
joined
at
the
hip,
with
your
recommendation
on
the
special
area
plan,
the
off-site
roadway
connection
to
the
hospital
that
was
a
main
feature
of
the
original
special
area
plan.
They
have
continued
to
show
that
it's
my
understanding.
In
fact,
some
of
the
parking
on
the
hospital
site
is
being
rearranged
to
accommodate
that
connection,
and
that
connection
is
provided
for
in
this
site.
Plan
in
is
an
important
condition.
F
G
F
Know
it
doesn't
help
when
I
keep
walking
away
from
the
mic.
We've
asked
that
that
the
actual
design
of
that
its
elevation,
it's
the
point
at
which
it
connects,
with
the
trail
in
particular,
be
done
in
coordination
with
Pinellas
County
in
their
trail
folks,
so
that
it
can
be
integrated
with
the
trail.
F
There's
been
a
lot
of
attention,
as
the
trail
has
gained
in
popularity
about
how
you
make
that
connection,
rather
than
absolute
straight
T,
where
people
kind
of
dive
out
into
the
trail
with
people
moving
by
to
flare
it
so
there's
a
literally
an
access
y
and
a
d-cell.
Why?
If
you
will
to
get
it
on
off
the
trail,
so
a
detail
that
that
would
be
important
to
attend
to
later
on.
F
Obviously,
the
design
the
water
system
meets
the
needs
and
the
fire
flows
approved
ultimately
by
the
city
folks,
here
that
was
a
condition
TRC
a
final
plat.
There
are
actually
four
different
parcels
here:
the
road
plat,
the
two
out
parcels
and
the
retention
pond
that
subsequently
need
to
be
plotted
and
accounted
for
in
terms
of
who's,
going
to
construct
that
and
maintain
that
over
the
years
as
the
apartment,
complex,
presumably
will
be
separated
from
the
property
very
important
condition.
Number
10
and
Ryan
Anderson
is
here.
We
reviewed
the
storm
water
management
plan.
F
There's
an
extensive
three
page
memo.
That's
attached
to
your
staff
report
that
outlines
those
comments,
things
that
need
to
be
attended
to
in
the
details
that
need
to
be
clarified
a
prior
to
permits
being
issued,
and
it
deals
with
the
Swift
mud.
Permit
that
may
or
may
not
already
be
in
place.
Florida
are
mental.
F
Permits
that
are
required,
all
of
those
things
need
to
be
reviewed
and
assure
that
they're
in
place
before
the
project
goes
forward.
Brian
can
probably
answer
additional
technical
details
on
that
want
to
be
sure
that
we
understand
exactly
how
that
storm
water
drainage
system
is
going
to
operate
both
in
the
interim
and
long-term
I.
F
So
we've
tried
to
recognize
that
at
this
stage,
all
of
the
details,
engineering
details
aren't
in
place
and
don't
need
to
be
in
order
to
approve
the
site
plan
as
its
laid
out
but
to
provide
assurance
that
they
in
the
interim
before
construction,
goes
forward
that
they
are
in
place
and
we
think
we've
covered
those
points.
So
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
on
the
on
the
conditions
or
any
other
aspect
of
the
site
plan
that
you
have
any.
E
E
D
E
People
go
rather
fast
right
there
and
then
there
also
there's
I
believe
a
gas
station
right
before
it,
and
then
there's
also
the
exit
and
entrance
into
the
winn-dixie
right
after
as
you're
heading
north
and
then
there's
also
another
neighborhood
across
the
street
that
unloads
an
altar
19
to
sew.
The
two
hundred
and
something
units
of
vehicles
that
are
going
to
coming
out
of
this
complex
I
think
there
could
be
a
risk
there,
so
have
we
as
a
city
asset
applicant,
to
put
adequate
signage
to
pointing
towards
mirrors.
E
E
F
Int
I
mean
certainly
the
existing
town
center
sign
at
the
entrance
on
mirrors
to
the
retail
complex
and
the
truth
is
human
nature
is
going
to
direct
them
to
where
yeah
I'm
on
a
go.
If
they're
going
east
they're
going
to
go
up
to
mirrors
and
go
east,
if
they're
going
north,
it
would
probably
make
sense
to
come
up
on
mirrors
and
go
to
the
light
to
be
able
to
turn.
E
C
That's
something
that
we're
going
to
want
to
obviously
look
at
and
watch
when
we
get
into
that
design
with
F
dot.
To
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
happen,
because
if
that
happens,
while
it
directs
traffic,
it
also
restricts
traffic.
So
those
are
the
type
of
things
that
we
will
look
at
as
far
as
the
science
that's
internal
to
the
project,
that's
something
that
we
can
add
as
a
condition,
if
that's
the
wishes
of
the
board,
to
provide
for
additional
signage
internal
to
the
project
directing
folks
to
the
signalized
intersection
on
mirrors.
C
I
recently
was
up
in
Tallahassee
at
a
Walmart
and
I
saw
those
signs
and
they're
very
helpful
when
you're
when
you're
new
to
an
area-
or
you
don't
know
the
area,
it's
not
an
overly
burden.
Suggestion
to
ask
the
applicant
to
do
that.
We
can
get
the
applicants
opinion
on
whether
they
be
receptive
to
doing
something
like
that.
C
But
it's
not
a
bad
additional
directional
signage
is
allowed
and
it's
not
a
bad
idea
for
a
project
of
the
size
to
do
that,
because
you
will
certainly
have
elderly
folks,
probably
living
in
at
least
one
of
these
buildings,
because
there
will
be
in
a
building
with
an
elevator.
So
that
being
the
case
that
becomes
attractive
to
folks
who
are
older
or
folks
who
have
mobility
issues.
H
Again,
JD
el
sabado
Sycamore
engineering,
the
first
just
let
me
make
comment
on
the
axis
in
2006
when
we
started
the
project,
there
is
comprehensive
study
to
the
traffic
and
the
whole
project.
The
same
happened
with
the
axises,
so
all
the
traffic
flu
we
created
on
the
project
was
a
study
exclusively
and
we
keep
the
same
until
now.
I
know
we
change
the
building.
You
see
different
building,
they
use
a
chain,
but
still
the
same,
and
these
study
and
co-ordinated
was
FD
with
the
city
staff,
with
a
do
te
with
the
county
with
everybody.
H
So
as
far
as
which
is
a
good
point
as
far
as
a
signage
I,
if
you
look
closely
to
the
construction
plan,
you
see
the
yelled
sign
around
that
you
know
around
around
around
a
stop
sign,
which
is,
in
one
part,
answer
some
of
your
question
as
far
as
a
safety,
the
other
part,
the
direction
towards
the
traffic
study,
the
traffic
cam
signal,
which
is
usually
when
somebody
lived
there.
He
aware,
with
the
pass
to
that
I
mean
we
don't
mind
to
add
any
sign,
but
the
idea
he
we
wanted
to
be
sure.
H
Just
you
know
he
knew
how
we
get
to
the
side
to
that
to
that
to
the
traffic
signal,
especially
as
you
see
the
major
corridor
going
across
the
hall
or
property
like
the
main
channel
from
the
south
to
the
north
to
Marissa
beloved,
which
is
up
and
completely
between
the
commercial
and
residential.
So
as
far
as
them,
you
know
that
the
traffic
flow
and
smoothly
to
be
with
some
you
know,
senior
live
in
the
end.
The
end,
the
project-
I,
don't
think,
will
be
a
problem,
but
we
don't
mind
to
look
into
it
closely.
H
If
we
need
to
the
other
part,
is
a
swift
mode,
I
mean
you
know,
thanks
for
the
clarification
that
we
need,
Swift
mod,
permit,
it's
worth
mod
required
for
any
project.
That's
not!
You
know
required
for
any
time
this
project
already
approved
by
Swift,
not
approved
by
the
OT
drainage
and
access.
So,
however,
it's
expired
because
everything
you
know
went
away
in
a
few
years
ago.
So
of
course
we're
going
to
get
that
and,
as
you
knew,
the
county
I
was
a
city
I'm.
H
Sorry,
you
could
not
pull
building
plan
until
you
have
all
the
other
agency
permit.
So
it's
you
know,
it's
absolutely
that's
part
of
what
we
did
it
before
in
the
winn-dixie
and
we
did
it
before
the
same
face
and
we're
going
to
do
it
again
so
and
this
project
have,
you
know,
might
be
we
don't
want
to
go
deeper
as
well
as
a
and
I
it
was.
My
expect
to
the
comment
came
up
and
there
is
depth
in
this
ended
a
drainage.
The
drainage
is
a
stackable
influence
project.
H
It's
not
affected,
it's
not
connected
even
to
that
to
that
to
the
d-o-t
system.
So
we
because
we
create
system,
connect
all
the
way
in
mercy
bulova.
So
that's
need
to
be
clarification
in
our
side.
We
need
to
do
to
whoever
you
know
review
the
plan
for
us
as
far
as
a
drainage,
and
we
need
to
show
that
that's
what
we
have
done
an
approved
before
is
still
valid
and
can
work
completely
any
other
question.
E
H
It's
really
in
the
design
part
we
we
in
the
beginning
for
this
face.
We
thought
about
the
three
connection
and
three
connection:
they
are
not
going
to
prove
it.
I
mean
to
the
trail.
So
therefore
we
work
we
work
closely
with
the
staff
and
we
have
it
one
connection,
as
mentioned,
which
is
a
close
to
the
club.
H
We
started
the
design
on
that
and
we
have
idea
what
needed
it
going
to
be
in
a
wood
bridge
connecting
between
the
two
side
and
we
have
some
cross
section
done
I.
Think
partially.
We
did
it
in
the
plan,
but
we
working
with
another
consultant
to
do
that
and
that
what
we
need
to
also
obtain
permit
from
from
metropolitan
I
think
if
I'm
Pinellas
County
on
that.
E
H
H
First
of
all,
the
drainage
pattern
going
to
continue
the
same
as
before.
We
have
pipe
going
from
that
east
side,
where
the
existing
wetland,
which
is
east
of
the
trail,
going
to
go
all
the
way
across
our
property
across
u.s.,
alternate
19
and
continue
to
the
nose.
This
is
already
you
know,
designed
and
approved
before.
So
that's
one
part
as
filed
rainy
pattern
are
going
to
continue
the
same
as
before.
As
far
as
a
wetland,
the
wetland
already,
of
course
approved
to
them
either
by
the
city
or
by
that
Swift.
Mod.
H
On
this
you
get
or
Army
Corps
of
engineer,
which
you
mentioned.
You
know
that
are
Meiko
so
already
approved.
The
mitigation
have
to
be
part
of
you
know
off
site
or
which
called
the
six
mile
up
in
pasco
county
to
medicate
that
you
know
proposing
impact
to
the
wetland.
This
coordination
done
by
the
city
to
do
part
of
it
in
the
MV
in
the
MVM
in
the
within
the
city
area,
which
done
and
part
of
it
off
site
which,
which
that
what
it
should
be
done,
I
think
I've.
E
H
I
I
The
natural
flow
under
alternate
19
that
wetland
system
originally
was
all
mangrove,
including
what
was,
on
the
other
side
of
the
trail,
all
the
way
up
to
the
landfill
that
all
got
choked
off,
because
salt
water
couldn't
flow
in
there
enough
and
eventually
all
turned
into
Brazilian
pepper,
melaleuca,
Brazilian,
pines,
Australian
pines
on
the
Brazilian
pepper
and
it's
becoming
what's
considered
a
nuisance
wetland.
So
it's
it's
legally
a
wetland,
but
the
reality
of
it.
The
quality
of
it
was
extremely
low.
I
So
what
was
done
was
twofold
one
permitting
by
the
county
permanent
by
the
Water
Management
District,
in
permitting
by
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
A
one-for-one
acreage
was
done
on
the
golf
course
around
that
that's
been
done.
It's
been
released
by
the
agencies
and
then
also
that
elongated
strip
that
you
see
II
along
the
trail
and
back
of
the
winn-dixie
and
back
of
the
apartments.
I
It's
basically
a
stair-step
Terrace
wetland
system
and
the
reason
for
that
stair-step
wetland
system
is
to
get
an
additional
water
quality
treatment
and
have
standing
pools
for
the
for
the
birds
and
stuff
like
that.
So
you've
got
one
for
one
there
and
then
the
remainder
of
it
to
meet
the
state
and
federal
requirements
was
done
off-site
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
we're
also
doing
the
mitigation
for
the
road
extension
through
there.
So
it's
all
been
tied
together.
So
the
city
itself
didn't
lose
any
acreage
of
wetlands.
E
Thank
you
got
one
more
question.
Cory
to
you,
I
know:
there's
we
have
a
rather
popular
a
good-sized
population
of
homeless
and
transient
population
amongst
our
town,
for
whatever
reason
have
you
guys
has
the
developer,
I
guess
evaluated,
maybe
like
the
safety
aspect,
I'm
assuming
there's
being
more
people
around.
You
tend
to
be
more
safe
because
more
just
more
eyes,
but
with
the
parking
garage
under
the
buildings.
H
Well,
that's,
as
that's
absolutely
a
good
point
here.
One
of
the
thing
we,
of
course
the
lighting,
the
lighting
there
is
that
we
submit,
of
course,
photo/matt
for
the
photometric
plan
to
the
staff
and
we'll
be
lighting
to
cover
the
whole
area
in
really
I
didn't
see
less
than
five
foot
candle
paper
any
point
on
the
side.
That's
12
is
a
yes.
They
look
into
possibility
to
include
some
gate
in
that.
In
that
parking
there
I
mean
that's
one
I
mean
when
evaluation,
because
I
know
you
know
the
safety
issue.
H
What
came
up
to
the
stay
is
you
know
when
in
case
like
this
was
between
the
parking?
So
that's
that
one
of
the
things
the
detail
which
are
going
through
with
the
architect,
in
fact
not
only
for
this
for
other
building,
also
looking
to
be
sure
that
security
issue
is
is
important,
but
I
agree
with
you.
I
mean
I
just
get
caught.
H
All
I
am
working
on
the
northwest
corner
property
of
merits
and
us
all
tonight,
19
and
I
get
the
same
way
call
from
the
sheriff
on
you
know,
homeless,
lived
there
and
we
give
him
authorization
to
to.
You
know:
try
to
act
on
a
no
behalf
of
the
owner.
Also,
and
this
regard
but
I
agree,
thats
thats
main
main
main
important
issue
need
to
be
look
into
and.
E
C
A
discussion
that
we've
had
here
at
the
Planning
Board
I
would,
I
would
recommend
that
they
use
shielded
lighting
right
now.
Your
code
does
not
require
that
in
this
particular
case,
you're,
not
in
the
same
situation
that
you're
in
with
the
other
places
we've
talked
about.
This
was
at
the
water,
where
you
have
the
reflective
effect
of
light
refracting
off
of
the
water,
and
then
you
know
becoming
nuisance
light.
You
don't
have
that
same
situation
here.
C
Don't
want
too
much
light
spillage
on
us
night
are
on
alternate
19,
especially
you
don't
want
it
spilling
off
the
site,
not
necessarily
on
the
trail
site,
but
on
to
that
wetland
area
being
that
there
there
is
wildlife
there.
Now
it
may
not
be
a
premier
wetland,
but
you
do
have
bird
life
and
wildlife
that
do
utilize
that
facilities.
So
that
being
the
case,
you
certainly
could
add
a
condition
if
that's
a
concern
of
the
board.
But
at
this
time
staff
is
not
concerned
based
on
the
type
of
lighting
that's
being
used
at
winn-dixie.
H
Can
I
connect
comment
on
that?
Okay?
Well,
the
other
point
on,
if
you
notice
closely,
we
border
with
that
trail
on
the
east
side,
and
probably
you
know
that
one
part,
probably
nice
light
on
the
building
can
be
more
attractive.
We
boarded
that
the
face
that
face
apartment
face.
We
boarded
the
western
side
of
it
with
that
driveway
from
the
south
to
the
north.
That's
mostly
that
that
you
know
define
the
face
and
retention
pond
and
those
degree,
and
you
see
them
the
out
partial
future
retail.
H
So
those
really
going
to
be
for
period
of
time
a
blank
there
we're
going
to
light,
of
course,
that
major
road
going
to
nineteen
there,
because
that's
you
know
main
entrance
to
that
to
that
so
so
I
believe
Sheldon.
The
light
is
yes,
of
course,
when
we
adjust
and
with
a
residential,
but
we
are
the
residential.
H
We
are
the
same
phase
on
that
and
if
you
notice,
let
us
say
that
we
have
that
the
hospital
the
hospital
to
the
south
I
mean
we
have
a
hedge
of
trees
between
us
and
the
hospital
there,
and
that
part
of
it,
which
you
know
a
block.
Any
any
you
know
bravest
between
us
and
the
hospital
that
one
part,
the
other
things,
as
you
noted
said,
the
retention
pond
and
that
retail,
that
a
small
triangle
is
the
gas
station,
which
you
block
block.
Most
of
the
of
the
view
to
19.
H
E
H
E
G
C
This
particular
time
no,
but
it's
still
early
in
the
process,
because
this
meeting
was
moved
so
early
in
the
month.
I
don't
I'm
not
gonna
have
a
good
handle
on
what
would
what's
actually
gonna
be
required,
because
your
deadline
is
still
another
week
away.
So
at
this
particular
time
we
have
not
had
anything
go
through
TRC
that
I
would
be
expecting
to
move
through
the
planning
board
in
march.
So
it
is
possible
that
the
meeting
may
be
cancelled,
but
I'll
be
in
touch
to
let
you
know
that
once
I
get
to
the
deadline.
Okay,.