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From YouTube: Planning & Zoning Board September 19, 2016
Description
City of Tarpon Springs Planning and Zoning Board meeting September 19, 2016
C
B
B
B
C
This
is
a
quasi
judicial
proceeding
where
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial,
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi
judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contain
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
C
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
If
the
competence,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinance,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
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E
You
can
do
all
three
at
once,
but
there
was
one
correction
that
doesn't
show
in
your
minutes
that
are
in
your
packet,
but
it's
in
the
minutes
for
the
Chairman
to
sign.
Nils
name
was
melt
incorrectly,
so
that's
been
corrected
and
changed.
We
caught
it
before
this
meeting
so
I'm
just
bringing
that
to
your
attention.
So
your
minutes,
that
of
the
official
minutes,
have
been
edited
to
reflect
that
change.
I.
B
G
B
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
application
number
16,
dash
51
site
plan
for
tarpon
retail
plans
of
resolution,
2016
dash
23.
It's
a
request
to
approve
a
site
plan
for
a
fast
food
restaurant
out,
parcel
at
40,
5,
45,
US,
highway
19
north
well,
19
is
not
there,
but
it's
19
north.
It's
the
former
office
depot
site
for
those
that
are
familiar
with
the
highway
and
we'll
begin
with
the
report
from
the
staff.
It's.
H
The
request
is
for
site
plan
approval
for
phase
2
of
a
retail
project
located
on
point
61
acres
of
a
2.88
acre
property
for
the
construction
of
a
3279
square
foot.
Drive-Thru
restaurant,
the
location,
the
general
location
is
the
southeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
lake
street
and
US
highway.
19
the
land
use
is
commercial
general.
The
zoning
district
is
highway.
Business.
H
Phase
two
of
the
project
proposes
the
construction
of
a
3279
square
foot
drive-thru
restaurant,
with
a
bypass
lane.
The
project
site
is
an
out
parcel
consisting
of
point
61
acres
and
floor
area
ratio
of
0.14.
This
is
a
reconfiguration
of
a
former
office
depot
building
site
proposed
drive-thru
restaurant
provides
an
additional
twenty
three
parking
spaces
plus
two
additional
accessible
spaces,
and
the
applicant
will
enter
into
a
cross
shared
parking
agreement
with
the
phase
one
portion
of
the
site
and
provide
a
total
of
104
parking
spaces
for
the
entire
project.
H
H
Additional
landscaping
is
being
provided
along
the
perimeter
of
the
project,
the
drive-thru
area
and
the
existing
stormwater
retention
area,
the
proposed
retail
development
system
with
the
commercial
general
future
land
use
assigned
to
the
property
in
all
other
requirements
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
plan
is
consistent
with
the
highway
business.
Zoning
designation.
The
site
plan
is
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
plan
and
the
for
spend
of
bonding
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
H
The
proposed
project
meets
the
concurrency
management
standards
of
section
122
of
the
land
development
code
pursuant
to
the
requirements
for
certificate
of
concurrency
for
potable
water,
sanitary
sewer,
solid
waste
disposal,
stormwater
management
and
Recreation
open
space.
Additionally,
the
project
will
not
result
in
decreases
below
adopted
levels
of
service
for
potable
water,
sanitary
sewer,
solid
waste,
recreational
facilities
or
stormwater
management
project
is
required
to
meet
all
the
city
building
codes
upon
application
for
construction
drawings
and
individual
building
permits.
The
technical
review
committee
reviewed
this
application
on
May
26
2016
and
August
11
2015
2016.
H
The
developer
is
responsible
for
acquiring
all
other
jurisdictional
permits
or
approvals
and
for
meeting
the
minimum
criteria
of
the
land
development
code,
including
compliance
with
article
17
public
art
program
across
parking
agreement
shall
be
completed
with
the
main
parcel
to
utilize
17
spaces
of
overflow
parking
for
the
drive
thru
out
parcel
at
the
time
of
potting.
The
applicant
must
mitigate
for
any
tree
removal
at
the
time
of
permitting
pursuant
to
lbc
section
130,
3.06,
water
and
sewer
infrastructure
shall
be
privately
owned
and
maintained.
H
The
applicant
shall
demonstrate
to
the
satisfaction
of
public
services
department
that
proposed
design
of
water
system
meets
needed.
Fire
flows
prior
to
issuance
of
any
permits.
Construction
plans
shall
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
The
payment
of
all
requisite
fees
attended
to
the
project
shall
be
paid
in
accordance
with
the
land
of
my
code.
This
site
plan
shall
expire
within
one
year
of
the
effective
date
unless
an
application
has
been
filed
for
building
permit
with
construction
plans
signed
and
sealed.
By
registered
engineer
licensed
in
the
state
of
Florida
condition
number
eight.
E
E
They
may
choose
to
keep
that
under
a
single
ownership
and
basically
rent
it
out
where
they
do
a
France
franchise
agreement,
Lisa
green
with
the
franchise,
a
franchisee,
and
if
they
choose
to
do
that,
we
want
to
leave
that
option
open
to
them
until
they
know
who
the
vendors
actually
going
to
be.
It's
really
premature
to
talk
about
platting
other
than
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
requirement
that
the
entire
site
functions
well
and
if
then,
it's
separated
off.
E
G
I've
got
some
questions.
That
parking
is
a
big
concern
for
me
because,
like
with
mugs
and
jugs,
when
that
came
up
in
front
of
us,
we
wouldn't
really
hammer
that
hard
enough.
I,
don't
think,
and
if
a
if
someone
were
to
separate
it
off
and
sell
it,
and
then
you
get
the
two
business
owners
in
a
argument
of
some
sort.
You've
got
how
many
parking
spots
at
the
fast
food
restaurant,
one,
two
three,
four,
five
six,
maybe
12,
there's
not
23
there,
there's,
maybe
12
parking
spots,
I
mean.
H
G
Additional
parking,
you're
actually
eliminating
parking,
we're
not
putting
additional
parking
and
there,
which
stated
in
our
back
up
here.
So
can
you
point
out
where
the
additional
twenty
three
spots
are
going
to
be
at
because
I'm
missing
that
somewhere
here,
because
I'm
looking
at
like
a
bunch
of
parking
spots
that
are
putting
a
building
on
top
of
the
parking
spots
and
it
back
to
eliminating?
Okay.
E
So
the
building
in
phase
one
the
existing
building
has
been
changed
as
a
result
of
the
phase.
One
improvements
that
were
authorized
under
the
minor
modification
project
process
in
your
land
development
code
allows
for
modification
of
existing
buildings
where
there
doesn't
meet
certain
thresholds,
unfortunately
or
fortunately,
in
this
case,
the
the
second
phase
does
meet
that
threshold.
So
in
the
first
phase
they
reduce
the
size
of
the
building
and
change
the
uses
in
the
building.
So,
as
a
result,
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
was
needed
for
that
first
phase
was
reduced.
E
So
that's
why
you're
seeing
parking
spaces
that
are
able
to
be
eliminated
to
allow
for
an
out
parcel
to
put
this
put
this
unit
on
the
20.
There
are
23
spaces
that
are
shown
that
are
not
new
they're,
somewhat
reconfigured
from
the
existing
parking
lot
to
allow
for
the
design
of
that
fast
food
restaurant.
E
Along
with
that,
there
is
a
stipulation
in
the
conditions
that
they
will
need
to
have
a
cross
access,
our
across
parking
agreement
that
will
basically
set
down
in
stone
at
the
time
that
this
is
platted,
which
is
when
they're
separated
you
can
actually
sell
the
property
off.
That's
the
platting!
That's
when
you
allow
that
to
happen
as
a
result,
then
there
will
be
the
requirement
that,
though,
that
they
share
that
parking
just
like
they'll
be
required
to
have
a
cross
across
access
agreement.
E
So
they
can
access
between
the
parking
lot
and
they'll
also
have
a
cross
drainage
agreement
at
that
time,
so
that
the
drainage
will
cross
between
the
those
properties.
Those
are
all
required
if
you're
going
to
separate
this
prof
any
of
the
property
on
this
piece
of
property.
At
any
point
time,
though,
that's
what's
required,
so
those
spaces
are
reconfigured
spaces
as
a
result
of
the
design
change
to
allow
for
that
fast,
food,
restaurant,
but
the
larger
building
that
was
existing
on
that
property.
E
The
size
of
that
building
has
been
cut
back
and
reduced
because
it's
going
to
be
modified,
it's
no
longer
going
to
be
a
single
tenant.
Building,
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-tenant
building
that
was
done
under
their
phase,
one
which
was
approved
by
TRC,
we're
here
to
discuss
fees
too.
So
that's
really
where
the
parking
the
parking
changes
are
coming
about.
So.
G
Say
it's
separated
off
and
sold
off
two
years
from
now
donors
getting
a
bitter
fight
of
some
sort,
because
you
have
the
restaurant
parking
in
front
of
all
the
front
edges
of
all
their
other
buildings
and
they're
cartoons.
Their
patrons
can't
get
to
those
parking
spots
at
that
point.
Is
that
agreement
in
place
to
where
it
can't
be
lifted.
E
Agreement
is
basically
what
happens
is
like
it's
like
a
restrictive
covenant,
that's
placed
on
the
property
at
the
time
of
planning,
okay.
So
when
these
are
physically
separated
into
two
separate
units,
you
basically
draw
the
line
down
the
middle.
They
will
never
be
self-sustaining
parcels
they
can't
based
on
the
design
of
their
drainage,
based
on
the
design
of
their
parking
and
does
it
based
on
design
of
their
access.
Okay,
they
all
are
they're
going
to
have
to
be
joint
tenancy
and
have
the
attendant
agreements
that
are
required
at
the
time
of
planning.
E
For
that,
that's
what
the
staff
requires
at
the
time
of
planning
when
you
have
cross
access,
cross
parking
and
or
cross
drainage
agreements,
some
cases
you
have
further
restrictive
covenants
and
require
an
association
to
be
established.
Those
are
all
things
that
happen
during
the
planning
phase,
because
that's
when
the
ownership
p
separates
between
owners,
how.
G
Far
can
the
spaces
be
from
the
business,
for
instance,
like
would
say
this
is
an
example.
We
have
like
our
anytime
or
snap
fitness
in
the
Great
Clips
parking
lot,
that's
connected
to
publix
kendos
be
considered
because
that's
a
heck
of
a
way
down,
but
they're
still
parking
spots
that
are
connected
and
so
I
think
it's
looking
at
the
same
situation
with
these
back
parking
spots.
If
that's
connecting
to
the
bastard
restaurant,
is
there
a
concern
from
staff
about
how
far
those
are
away?
There's.
E
No
distance
in
criteria
and
there's
nothing
in
planning
practice
that
would
require,
or
requires
barking
ceases
to
be
a
certain
distance
from
a
building,
with
the
exception
of
accessible
parking,
accessible
parking
and
88
compliance
is
a
different
animal
than
general
parking
general
parking.
You
do
not
have
any
regulations
in
your
code
currently
and
I
have
not
seen
any
regulations
in
most
codes
that
dictate
how
far
parking
can
be
from
a
specific
business,
especially
when
you
have
a
multi-tenant
multi-use
site.
E
That
generally
parking
is
one
of
those
things
that
is
shared
between
those
tenants
and
it's
generally
part
of
either
their
leasing
agreements
either.
It's
open
parking
like
it
is
in
the
mugs
and
jugs
Plaza
part
of
the
the
concerns
with
muggy.
The
folks
that
that
are
in
mugs
and
jugs,
plaza
outside
of
mugs
and
jugs,
is
that
they
have
an
open
parking
lease
program.
That's
part
of
their
least
that's
not
something
that
the
city
gets
involved
in
how
a
individual
property
owner
regulates
the
uses
on
his
property.
E
As
far
as
how
many
parking
spaces
and
things
that
he's
assigned
that
that
particular
project
was
done
at
the
shopping
center
rate.
Just
like
this
one's
done
of
the
shopping
center
rate,
with
the
caveat
that
we
made
sure
that
they
had
sufficient
parking
to
sustain
that
particular
drive-thru
restaurant
over
the
entire
site,
rather
than
just
require
it
on
that
one
out
parcel.
So
over
the
entire
site,
everything
is
covered
at
the
shopping
center
rate
and
or
under
the
fast-food
rate,
to
me
sure
that
there
was
sufficient
parking
for
those
uses.
I.
B
E
Going
to
actually
let
the
applicant
can
actually
explain
to
you
what
they,
what
changes
that
they
did
to
the
the
avila
to
the
existing
office
depot
site,
so
that
you
can
kind
of
understand
the
different
than
changes.
Because
what
you
see
here
is
really
the
changes
that
have
been
done,
not
the
the
the
very
first
of
the
original
building
before.
G
A
A
I
Sir
jdl
sabanci
camera
engineering,
8370
west
hills
were
avenue,
suite
205
tampa
florida,
336
15,
I
already
sworn
and
I,
representing,
of
course,
the
owner,
the
developer
em.
If
the
site,
as
mentioned
by
the
staff,
it's
a
existing
office
teapot,
which
has
as
we
see
in
the
survey
we
have
to
close
to
50,000
square
foot.
Building
right
now,
which
is
the
survey,
show
it
very
clearly.
I
What
we
have
the
proposed
site
is
about
20,
22,
23,
reduction
of
that
building
from
about
50,000
to
22
or
23,
as
we
see
it,
and
that
would
miss
Oliver
discuss
that
that
would
be
phase
one
phase
two,
which
we
the
subject
of
our
application.
Now
is
the
drive-thru
restaurant,
which
is
3,300
square
foot
proposed
in
the
northern
side
of
the
property,
with
the
driver
through
now,
as
mentioned
completely
and
agree,
and
everything
said
this
partial
is
integrated
or
in
fact
those
two
building
in
one
side
integrated
in
one
side
completely.
I
They
can
have
one
storm
water
pond,
serving
both
of
them.
They're
going
to
have
one
left,
the
station
saving
both
of
them
and
because
we're
gonna
create
a
stub
out,
serve
the
proposed
driver
through
restaurant
and
we're
going
to
have,
of
course,
a
new
connection
to
the
water
on
at
us
19,
which
requested
also
to
get
approval
for
so
the
the
site
overall
is
really
one
side
even
and
that,
based
on
that,
the
staff
went
and
asked
for
that.
I
That
very
good
question:
the
seat
is
really
based,
have
a
different
factor.
As
you
know,
it's
based
on
they
divided
it
by
the
storage
area
by
the
kitchen
by
the
sitting
area.
We
really
don't
know
exactly
how
many
see
it
will
be
because,
like
usually
the
storage,
you
divide
the
storage
by
Henry
square
foot,
the
dining
area
by
15.
You
know
the
kitchen
by
you
know
50,
so
each
one
based
on
that
we
calculate
we
said
hey
it's
handed
seat.
I
I
You
know
occupancy,
which
is
seat
as
as,
as
you
mentioned,
exactly
we
don't
know
exactly
because
we
don't
know
what
the
user
will
be
so
possibly
might
be,
will
be
less
than
3,300
square
foot
building
might
be,
of
course,
not
more,
but
might
be
less
than
that.
So
we
are
not
sure
to
be
technically
correct.
How
many
see
it
can
be.
I
I
E
I
D
B
B
I
G
A
A
E
Know
what
would
happen
here
is
the
parking
calculation
is
based
on
the
square
footage
of
the
use
that
takes
into
account
there's
a
standard
formula
that
was
created
or
many
stain.
Your
phones
that
have
been
created,
you've
adopted
a
1,
/
80,
so
that's
one
space,
/
80
square
feet
of
the
use
in
this
case
that
doesn't
really
differentiate
freezer
from
seating
area
from
kitchen.
E
It
assumes
that
entire
building
is
dedicated
to
the
fast-food
use
and
the
Panda,
and
basically
that
that
drive
through
use
as
a
result
that
calculation
is
across
the
entire
square
footage
not
specific
to
just
the
seating
area.
If
they
ask
for
additional
square
footage
and
they
exceed
the
threshold
of
minor
modification,
they
would
come
back
through
the
process.
Just
like
they're
doing
now,
I
mean
essentially
they're
asking
for
a
different
type
of
square
footage
of
different
use
there.
E
That's
why
they're
coming
back
through
this
for
for
that
second
fees,
so
the
same
thing
would
happen
again
with
the
caveat
that
there
is
language
in
your
land
development
code
that
TRC
can
allow
for
modifications
of
square
footage.
In
this
case,
you're
not
talking
about
a
very
big
building,
so
the
percentage
of
modification
that
they
can
get
on
that
building
without
having
to
come
back
is
very,
very
small.
Again.
The
smaller
a
building
is
the
smaller
the
square
footage
you
can
change
without
coming
back
through
the
process.
E
The
larger
building
is
the
more
you
can
change
without
coming
back
and
usually,
if
they're
cutting
back
a
building,
it's
easier
to
for
everyone
to
swallow
that
than
it
is,
if
they're
increasing
the
size
and
until
they've
really
identified
their
vendor,
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
determine
what
that
ultimate
square
footage
is
going
to
be
with
that
fast
food
restaurant,
but
the
parking
is
sufficient
based
on
the
square
footage
as
its
shown
today.
Hey
thank.
A
I
G
G
I
Be
more
than
happy
to
you
know
it
change
it
completely.
I
mean
the
other
aspect.
Here,
I
thought
you
can
ask
me,
you
know
you
guys
have
enough
landscaping,
I,
think
the
staff
you
know,
look
exclusively
into
every
three
and
even
they
asked
us
to
plant
it
in
the
front
and
in
the
back
area
as
far
as
reps,
or
you
know,
screening
and
and
trees
there,
but
as
far
as
the
notification
voted
up
I
think
we're
more
than
happy
to
advise
it
to
something
else.
Yeah.
G
B
I
B
G
G
G
But
I
mean
we
have
to
set
up
success
for
this
type
of
situation
to
you've
got
these.
Also.
These
businesses
are
next
to
the
fast
food
restaurant
proposed
hearing
that
ppl
park
in
front
of
those
and
then
they're
going
to
put
signs
out
there
to
say
XYZ
company
parking
only
and
you're
going
to
create
a
headache
I'm.
Just
it's
a
valid
concern.
I
think
that
should
be
addressed,
but
I
mean
it's
falling
within
our
guideline.
So
I.
A
Think
what's
happening
at
McDonald's.
Does
that
leave
just
outgrown
mcdonough
when
it
first
came,
we
didn't
have
anything
but,
as
we
have
grown
in
our
community
and
on
the
outskirts
of
the
community,
McDonald's
is
grown
and
it
is
very
dangerous
there,
especially
when
they're
lined
up
but
they're,
eventually
going
to
have
to
do
something
to
have
a
bigger
building
and
bigger
availability
to
get
served
and
as
far
as
a
lucky
deal
that's
down
and
they've
allowed
it
that's
highway.
19!
That's
that's!
Not
us
and.
A
Dangerous
but
I
don't
see
and
I
may
be
wrong
enough-
may
have
to
eat
this
statement
in
the
next
five
years,
if
I'm,
even
here
that
I,
don't
think
we'll
see
that
on
this
part,
hopefully
we
want
but
I
think
in
in
the
future.
We
need
to
do
something
with
the
city
that
they
can't
park
on
those
out
parcels
there.
It's
very
dangerous
there's
accidents
and
it
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
I,
don't
see
it
at
chili's
at
all
and
I.
A
A
Moved
for
the
approval
of
I
turned
it
over
here.
Excuse
me:
slight
plan
number
16
dash
51
tarpon
Rana
Plaza
resolution
2016
dash
23.
Second,.
F
B
Mr.
car
brought
up
a
good
point
about
the
height
of
the
shrubbery.
Yes
and
the
applicant
express
that
he's
willing
to
meet
the
code
and
have
shrubbery
I
guess
up
to
three
feet
tall,
which
is
required
by
the
code.
Does
we
want
to
have
that
in
the
motion
verse?
One
of
the
conditions
I,
assume
that
your
motion
includes
the
recommended
commission
conditions
of
by
the
staff
one
through
seven?
Yes,.
B
G
G
B
B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
item
number
five:
is
application
number
sixteen
dash
55
to
site
plan,
tarpon
turtle,
overflow
parking
lot
resolution
2016
dash,
24;
it's
a
request
to
approve
a
site
plan
for
an
overflow
parking
lot
adjacent
to
the
tarpon
turtle.
This
time
we'll
hear
from
our
staff
and
have
staff
report
Thank.
E
You
Heather
roller
director
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Department,
for
staff
on
this
application.
I'm
about
a
year
ago,
the
the
proprietors
of
the
tarpon
turtle
came
before
this
board
and
later
for
the
BOC
to
request
a
change
in
several
audits
along
lake
tarpon,
Avenue
adjacent
to
the
restaurant
site.
At
that
time
they
had
had
told
us
they
wanted
to
do
an
overflow
parking
lot
because
they're
having
some
issues
with
parking,
there's
issues
with
people
parking
along
the
roadway
there's
a
hill.
There
there's
a
number
of
safety
issues
at
that
time.
E
They
didn't
have
a
site
plan
design,
so
they
just
came
through
and
they
did
the
change
in
the
land
use.
This
is
now
basically
following
up
on
that
change
in
the
land
use
at
the
time
that
this
project
went
forward
with
the
land
use
change
at
the
board
level.
They
were
required
by
PPC
and
by
your
BOC,
to
put
a
restrictive
covenant
on
this
on
these
properties
that
basically
restricted
the
use
in
perpetuity
to
parking
lot.
E
If
they
ever
choose
to
do
anything
other
than
a
parking
lot,
they
have
to
come
back
through
the
process
to
get
rid
of
that
restrictive
covenant,
and
then
they
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
design
process.
That
being
the
case,
this
particular
application
is
really
for
a
parking
lot.
That
parking
lot
is
going
to
be
mostly
a
grass
parking
lot.
They
are
going
to
have
paved
access
aisles,
so
there
is
some
additional
drainage.
That's
required.
E
This
application
actually
has
kind
of
been
delayed
from
this
board,
simply
because
we're
waiting
for,
if
my
to
finally
come
through
with
their
approval,
that
they
would
accept
the
design
for
the
for
the
water,
because
being
that
it's
so
close
to
the
lake,
they
have
some
complications
with
water
flow
up
down
a
hill.
So,
as
a
result,
we
now
have
in
your
back
up
a
letter
from
Swift
mud
that
they
will
accept
the
design
as
proposed.
E
So
at
this
time
the
only
concerns
that
staff
has
is
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
the
specifics
of
what
the
what
they're
proposing,
but
there's
no
other
concerns
that
staff
really
has
outside
of
that
storm
water
issue
that
that
has
been
addressed
at
this
point.
So
the
proposed
parking
area
consists
of
65
grass
parking
spaces,
paved
access,
aisles
landscaping
in
an
Associated
storm
water,
conveyance
system,
the
application
the
applicant
has
provided
the
appropriate
buffers
to
the
adjacent
residential
units,
which
are
actually
shown
on
a
separate
sheet.
E
You
have
a
separate
sheet
in
your
packet
that
was
like.
In
addition
with
this
their
landscaping
plan,
the
applicant
is
providing
the
buffer
situation
to
the
residential.
This
the
seven
trees
are
proposed
to
be
removed
in
the
applicant
will
be
installing
sufficient
trees
in
the
require
buffers
and
the
lansing
area
to
compensate
them
for
the
removal
of
trees.
The
trees
proposed
to
be
removed
range
in
size
from
five
inches
to
17
inches
in
diameter.
As
measured
at
breast
height.
The
applicant
is
not
requesting
the
change
in
the
future
land
uses.
E
That's
already
happened,
they're,
not
requesting
a
change
in
the
proposed
zoning
category.
That's
already
happened
at
this
time,
staff
finds
the
technical
review
key
team,
determined
that
the
application
met
the
site,
design
approval
standards
income
and
was
completing
compliance
with
the
above
reference
standard.
The
site
plan
is
consistent
with
your
future
Land
Use
Plan
and
the
corresponding
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
Board
of
Commissioners
required
the
use
again
of
that
restrictive
covenant.
The
proposed
used
in
site
plan
are
consistent
with
the
restrictive
covenant
that
was
placed
on
the
property.
E
The
proposed
project
needs
the
concurrency
management
standards
in
section
in
this
case.
What
applies
is
not
traffic
and
what
you're
generally
used
to
it's
really
the
storm
water
issue,
because
there's
no
expansion
of
the
whole
of
the
restaurant
use.
It's
only
an
overflow
parking.
You
don't
have
to
look
at
additional
water
usage
you're,
not
looking
at
additional
traffic
generation,
you're,
not
looking
at
additional
on
waste
water
or
sewer,
solid
way
disposal.
E
So
it's
very
limited
in
what
you're
actually
looking
for
that
concurrency
analysis
really
to
that
they're
meeting
their
storm
water
management
requirements
with
that
staff.
There
is
an
ERP
permit
that
was
provided
to
the
city,
which
is
in
the
application,
and
the
project
was.
It
was
required
to
meet
the
city's
building
code
upon
an
application
for
construction,
drawings
and
individual
permits,
with
that,
the
staff
has
several
conditions.
Those
conditions
on
the
developers
we're
recommending
approval,
excuse
me,
and
we
have
several
conditions.
E
The
developer
is
responsible
for
acquiring
all
your
other
jurisdictional
permits
for
approvals
for
meeting
the
minimum
criteria.
The
land
development
code,
including
the
compliance
with
article
XVIII
public
art
program,
the
applicant,
is
the
applicant-
must
mitigate
for
tree
removal
at
the
time
of
permitting
pursuant
to
LDC
section
13
3.06,
any
lighting
to
be
installed
on
site
is
to
be
shielded
and
direct
with
internal
to
the
site.
Construction
plans
shall
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
E
The
payment
of
all
records
and
fees
attended
to
the
project
shall
be
paid
in
accordance
with
the
land
development
code
and
the
site
plan
shall
expire
within
one
year
of
the
effective
date
unless
the
application
has
been
filed
for
a
building
permit
with
construction
plans
signed
and
sealed
by
a
registered
engineer
licensed
in
the
state
of
Florida.
With
that
I
can
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
E
E
G
Don't
want
to
disconfirm
that
and
also
I
think
that's
like
a
the
crest
of
the
hill
is
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
of
that.
If
I
remember
correctly,
is
there
any
issues
with
like
line
of
sight
with
what
they
have
designed
that
you've
seen
coming
out
of
the
parking
lots
if
someone's
flying
over
the
hill,
they.
E
Have
designed
in
the
required
visibility
triangle
and
as
a
result,
there
shouldn't
be
any
issue
with
people
coming
down
the
hill.
Again
folks
are
coming
down
that
hill.
They
shouldn't
be
going.
They
shouldn't
be
exceeding
the
speed
limit,
but
in
the
event
that
they
are
there
are.
There
are
sidewalks
there
that
any
pedestrians
that
are
in
there,
okay
there
and
then
folks
that
are
in
our
in
those
drive
aisles
they're,
not
grass
drive
aisles,
which
is
is
much
better
than
if
they
were
grass.
Maybe
you'd
be
slipping
on
them.
E
E
A
sidewalk
already
existing
along
along
that
area,
so
it's
really
hard
to
kind
of
tell,
because
the
plan
is
kind
of
busy
they
were
trying
to.
You
know
make
it
attractive,
so
it
became
a
little
busy
but
yeah.
There
is
a
sidewalk
allow
along
that.
That
basically
goes
down
to
the
tarpon
turtle
on
that
side
and.
G
A
E
Are
not
required,
it's
it's
RM,
so
they're
not
required
to
have
their
buffering.
To
that
one
parcel.
That's
that's
in
the
middle,
which
actually
is
RM.
They
would
try
to
acquire
that
more
unable
to
acquire
that
because
of
the
is
basically
owned
by
the
condo
association
and
trying
to
get
everybody
to
agree
to
sell
that
property
didn't
happen.
So
as
a
result,
they've
actually
had
and
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
speak
to
this.
They've
actually
had
the
condo
association
kind
of
had
a
change
of
heart.
E
The
difficulty
with
the
buff
requirement
is
they
are
the
condos
are
above
this,
so
any
buffering
that
they're
going
to
have
it's
going
to
take
while
for
trees
and
shrubs
to
grow
in,
to
provide
anything,
it
will
provide
some
soundproofing,
but
since
they're,
using
a
grass
parking
lot,
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
have
the
same
sound
issues
that
they
were
really
thinking.
They
were
going
to
have
as
a
result
of
just
not
having
the
pavement.
So
pavement
really
kind
of
muff
really
magnify
sound.
E
A
E
Think
so,
because
they're
a
lot
higher
I
mean
even
the
lower
unit,
even
the
lower
units
within
that,
because
that
kind
of
that
is
an
undulating
hill.
That's
up
there
that
they're
on
and
so,
as
a
result,
it's
going
to
be
limited,
the
folks
that
are
impacted,
if
at
all,
by
any
lights
that
are
coming
up
because
of
their
just
a
higher
elevation.
The.
A
B
B
E
E
It's
one
of
the
problems
that
have
been
there,
whether
the
territorial
zad
is,
they
really
don't
have
a
weight
of
capturing
traffic
pass
by
traffic
because
they're,
you
know
they're,
tucked
down
in
a
neighborhood,
so
they've
asked
to
do
some
some
additional
signage
and
they
wanted
to
include
that
boat
is
kind
of
a
design
element
into
their
their
parking
lot
and
there's
really
nothing
in
our
code
that
restricts
folks
from
doing
that.
E
G
E
Really
there
they're
kind
of
still
in
the
cursory
determination
of
kind
of
where
those
signs
going
to
be
and
how
they're
going
to
look.
So
that's
never
really
included.
You
know
at
this
point
you're
very
preliminary
in
the
process,
so
folks
don't
really
spend
the
money
to
determine
really
where
the
signs
are
going
to
be
located
generally
on
the
plans
so
they're
still
in
the
process
of
doing
that
once
they
have
those
signs
in
there.
We'll
have
a
better
feel
for
that,
but
right
now
they're
not
located
what.
G
About
like
sine
square
footage,
I
know
that
was
an
issue
like
on
the
Historic
Preservation
Board,
about
the
amount
of
square
footage,
a
sign
that
you
have
since
this
is
like
separate
properties
technically
from
the
tarpon
turtle.
Does
that
make
a
difference
or
is
it
like
the
tarpon
total
signage?
It's.
E
One
unified
project
so
like
they
will
get.
They
don't
currently
have
a
sign
or
a
free-standing
sign,
at
least
at
the
tarpon
turtle.
The
signage
is
on
the
building.
So
as
a
result,
they
have
now
the
entire
frontage
there
to
calculate
their
sign,
their
sine
square
footage
based
on
but
again
that
that
is
set
up
it's
outside
the
historic
district.
So,
as
a
result,
it's
they
would
be
based
on.
If
it's
commercial
property,
they
have
a
standard
set
sine
square
footage
that
they
get
and
even
though
they've
got
additional
linear
feet,
there
is
a
maximum.
E
E
G
For
staff
I've
got
a
question
about
this
another
sign
question
of
because
you
have
residents
across
the
street
that
their
house
and
look
into
the
parking
lots.
So
if
the
sign
is
illuminated,
is
there
something
along
the
line
to
say
the
signs
have
to
turn
off
at
a
certain
hour
or
something
along
those
lines?
There's.
E
Nothing
specific
in
the
sign
code
that
requires
the
signs
to
turn
off
at
any
point
in
time
in
any
type
of
commercial
district,
and
in
fact
this
is
a
commercial
district.
If
you
wanted
to
do
something
that
we'd
have
to
defer
to
an
attorney
whether
or
not
you
know,
there
would
be
a
restrictive
to
the
restriction
on
you
putting
a
restriction
on
that
that
you
know
they
can't
have
a
non
illuminated
sign
or
putting
a
restriction
on
the
lighting
feature
of
the
sign
you
can.
E
You
know
you
can
ask
for
those
those
types
of
things
as
part
of
the
site
planning
process.
We
just
need
to
verify
with
the
attorney
that
there
we
are
rocketing
into
an
area
that
you
know
exceeds
your
authority,
but
generally
there
is
nothing
in
your
code
that
specifically
says
that
at
nine
o'clock,
all
the
signs
turn
off
its
go.
B
E
Works
if
it's
not
internally
lit,
if
it's
internally
lit,
where
the
sign
the
Lighting's
inside
you're
still
going
to
have
that
refractive
thing
and
there's
no
way
of
dealing
that
if
you're,
using
like
white
lights
like
it
like
an
outside,
like
you,
do
with
flags
and
that
type
of
thing
those
are
easily
those
are
easily
controlled.
But
if
it's
instance
internal
it,
which
would
they
would
be
allowed
to
do
that
in
this
particular
district.
E
You
that's
not
going
to
work
for
that,
so
it
just
wouldn't
you're
really
getting
now
down
to
how
you
want
the
sign
to
be
in
that
type
of
thing.
And
obviously
we
want
the
applicant
to
come
up
here
and
talk
to
us
if
you're
going
to
get
into
a
regulating
what
their
signs
and
stuff
going
to
look
like,
because
that's
really
that's
something
that
they're
going
to
need
to
be
part
of
that
discussion.
J
J
To
speak
to
couple
items
that
I
heard
the
main
challenge
with
this
with
designing
this
parking
lot
was
indeed
the
great
changes
across
the
property.
There's
a
varies
from
about
average
of
eight
feet
and
great
difference
if
you're
up
at
the
condos
going
downhill
to
the
parking
lot.
So
there
was
quite
a
challenge
in
you
know,
making
it
kind
of
blend
into
the
side
of
the
hill.
So
once
this
parking
lots
constructed
I,
don't
see
how
there
will
be
any
impacts
to
the
condos
that
will
be
sitting
up
on
the
hill.
J
The
second
item
regarding
the
site
lighting,
the
owner-
doesn't
plan
to
put
any
site
lighting
in
at
this
point:
that's
not
even
on
their
radar
with
that
parkings
desperately
needed
and
they're
really
anxious
to
to
get
it
in
there
and
you
know,
solve
some
ongoing
issues.
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
you
might
have.
Thank.
G
J
B
B
G
E
For
the
site
plan
they
were
notified
during
the
regular
process,
but
we
do
not
have
a
requirement
in
our
land
development
code
to
notify
for
site
plans.
I,
don't
know
why
you
guys
didn't
go
that
step
and
do
that,
but
we
do
not
have
that
requirement
so
being
that
staff
doesn't
take
in
any
money
for
these
applications
to
advertise
I
don't
have
any
means
to
advertise
generally
for
them.
So
that's.
B
A
look
at
that
notice
procedure.
You
know
we
certainly
would,
like
all
citizens
affected
by
something
to
receive
notice,
because
I
know
before
they've
had
a
lot
of
objections,
but
I
think,
and
it
sounds
like
they've
been
at
least
working
with
him,
so
I'm,
assuming
that
they've
got
some
knowledge
of.
What's
going
on
with
the
site
plan,
the.
E
Residents
knew
that
the
site
plan
was
eminent
whether
we
went
through
the
land
development
process.
We
made
them
aware
of
like
the
next
steps,
what
the
process
was
when
we
talked
about
at
the
board,
because
they
I
mean
they
followed
us
all
the
way
through
they
came
to
all
the
meetings.
So,
as
a
result,
we
thought
they
followed
us
through
that
process,
so
they
were
made
aware
of
the
steps
that
were
to
be
taking
in
they
could
contact
our
office
at
any
point
and
we'll
check
with
us
to
find
out.
E
A
For
the
attorney
to
advise
us
at
our
next
meeting
or
whenever
she
can't
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
next
time,
if
an
issue
like
this
comes
up,
everybody
is
notified,
I've
always
stood
for
everybody
being
notified
and
they
should
have.
They
don't
really
think
about
the
process,
not
saying
that
they
would
come
up
and
object
to
anything.
A
B
Thank
You
mr.
Seth
I
think
also
on
a
wider,
and
they
were
a
little
bit
off
topic
just
talking
about
in
general
notice.
It's
not
particular
to
this
particular
application,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
further
into
not
just
this
notice
of
site
plans
but
and
noticed
in
other
situations,
and
maybe
we
can
make
that
as
a
discussion
item
on
the
agenda
coming
up.
We.
E
Can
site
plans
are
really
the
only
thing,
the
action
that
you
guys
take
that
don't
have
some
type
of
notice?
I
mean
most
of
your
other
applications
either
require
a
sign
or
they
require
postcards
or
a
sign
post
card,
and
an
advertised
than
the
newspaper
just
depends
on
which
type
of
application
we're
talking
about
site
plans
is
the
one
thing
that
you
guys
action
that
you
take
care.
B
Yes,
but
if
we
can
at
least
get
it
on
the
other
agenda
to
speak
about
also
there's
some
situations
with
a
200-foot
notice
requirement,
sometimes
in
practicality,
depending
on
the
configuration
of
the
landowners.
You
know
that
there
may
not
be
anyone
getting
to
notice
and
and
say,
if
there's
a
historic
district
involved.
If
you
only
give
notice
to
folks
within
200
feet,
you
know
it
would
impact,
maybe
a
whole
district,
and
so
we
might
want
to
take
look
as
well
as
the
technology
that
we
have
now.
B
The
city
manager
has
a
facebook
site
that
you
know
things
could
be
posted
on
that
and
get
wide
audience
through
that,
as
well
as
the
website
of
the
city.
So
we
might
want
to
look
at
the
use
of
septic
technology
rather
than
just
the
postage
of
mailing
notices,
but
that's
for
a
future
day,
and
I
will
appreciate
if
it
wouldn't
get
it
on
the
agenda
coming.
B
F
A
I
I
B
The
next
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
item
number
6
application,
1667
annexation
and
rezoning
request
for
monaco
inc.
It's
ordinance
number
2016,
11
and
ordinance
2016
dash
12.
It's
a
request
to
annex
and
rezone
point
nine
six
acres
of
real
property
located
at
1525,
Rainville
road
and
we'll
begin
with
the
report
from
the
staff.
Okay,.
E
Essentially,
this
property
is
actually
adjacent
to
the
RO
plant.
Even
though
it's
on
a
different
Road,
it
is
adjacent
to
our
city
limits.
The
RO
plant
touches
directly
to
this
property.
As
a
result,
all
the
other
area
around
it
is
in
Pinellas
County
it's
zone,
it
has
a
future
land
use
of
either
m1
or
IR,
and
it
has
or
sorry
it
has.
A
zoning
of
m1
or
or
a
future
land
use
of
industrial
limited
or
target
employment
target
employment
is
actually
an
overlay
district
that
was
put
over
on
the
industrial
district
in
Pinellas
County.
E
It
really
corresponds
to
the
countywide
plan.
The
countywide
plan
changed
their
designations
last
summer
and,
as
a
result,
everything
kind
of
came
in
line,
the
county
kind
of
changed
their
land
uses
to
match,
and
that
type
of
thing
we
haven't
gone
that
route.
Our
industrial
limited
category
allows
for
all
of
the
same
uses
as
the
uses
that
are
currently
allowed
on
in
that
target
employment
center.
So
it's
really
not.
E
The
properties
currently
conforming
to
the
assigned
owning
of
the
m1
light
and
dust
a
light
manufacturing
industrial
district
with
in
Pinellas
County,
as
well
as
being
in
compliance
with
the
existing
land
use
for
the
land
uses
for
industrial
limited
in
our
own
district,
the
owner
and
applicant,
is
requesting
to
annex
into
the
city
tarpon
to
amend
the
zoning
to
the
ir
industrial
restrictive
district.
The
current
property
size
of
9.6
area
is
currently
used
as
a
payroll
processing
and
construction
services
establishment.
E
In
this
case
they
are
contiguous
and
the
applicant
has
received
written
confirmation
from
the
Florida
Department
of
our
mail
protection
after
well.
Water
testing
that
the
well
on
site
is
tainted
with
arsenic
and
the
property
owner
would
need
to
approach
the
city
to
seek
that
voluntary
annexation.
In
order
to
have
the
potable
drinking
water
on
site,
the
property
is
contiguous
and
then
we're
going
to
go
through
the
review
criteria
for
the
annexation.
The
property
is
contiguous
to
the
existing
tarpon
springs
municipal
limits
on
the
west
side.
E
Again,
that's
the
RO
plant
that
there's
a
bus
to
auto
plant
in
the
fire
station.
The
annexation
will
not
create
an
enclave.
The
property
is
within
the
wastewater
treatment
facilities
area
within
the
potable
water
service
area
and
a
line
is
present
within
the
existing
sewer
service
area
and
within
the
fire
protection
service
area.
The
applicant
will
be
connecting
to
you
to
the
city's
utility
services
and
again,
this
goes
through
the
whole
discussion
for
the
planning
district
and
that's
everything
which
you
guys
have
seen
on
multiple
occasions,
so
I'm
going
to
fast
forward
through
that.
E
Yes,
the
property
owner
has
voluntarily
agreed
pursuant
to
the
application
on
file
with
the
planning
zone
Department,
the
proposed
intensity
of
the
property
is
equal
to
and
that
that's
addressed
in
the
Pinellas
County
comprehensive
plan.
It's
the
same
category,
we're
going
from
the
same
category
and
their
way
and
use
plan
to
our
second
category
on
our
way
news
plan.
That's
why
we
don't
have
a
future
lanius
amendment
added.
There's,
there's
no
need
for
it
really.
E
The
intensity
of
the
future
land
use
on
the
tarpon
streams,
comprehensive
plan
and
zoning
map
amendment
for
the
officials
owning
a
mattress
ugly
are
consistent
with
the
intensities
addressed
in
the
current
Pinellas
County
comprehensive
plan
and
the
pinellas
county
land
development
code
in
our
and
for
the
subject
property.
The
technical
review
team
reviewed
the
project
on
July
26
for
completeness
and
conformance
with
the
comprehensive
plan
in
the
zoning
and
land
development
code
and
had
the
Fallen
comments,
which,
essentially,
is
that
they
approved
cat
act.
E
We
have
had
no
requests
for
any
information
on
this
particular
on
this
particular
request.
It's
not
surprising
it's
down
kind
of
off
of
a
off
of
a
side
road
and
even
with
the
big
wonderful
signs
that
we
have
in
bright,
yellow.
There
has
been
no
concerns
from
any
of
the
neighbors
on
this
and
staff
is
a
recommendation
of
approval
of
the
request
for
the
annexation,
the
rezoning
from
the
m1
district
to
the
RI
district,
and
with
that
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
G
G
E
That's
out
in
the
front
existing
on
this,
so
while
it's
not
serving
this
particular
property
at
this
particular
time,
it
is
serving
other
properties.
So,
at
this
time,
because
I
asked
the
same,
I
asked
the
utility
guys
a
lot
of
these
questions
because
I
want
to.
I
want
to
know
how
they're
connecting
to
because
the
their
prop
their
existing
building
is
way
up.
On
the
other
side,
it's
far
away
from
the
auto
plant,
but
there
are
existing
lines
in
the
area
that
they're
just
going
to
extend
down
a
water
line
for
this
area.
E
So
now
that
they're
coming
down
to
this
property,
what
they'll
do
is
they'll,
expand
down
a
big
enough
line
that
any
additional
people
up
in
that
area.
That
would
want
to
connect
now
that
this
is
becoming.
If
everybody
agrees
to
annex
it
in,
if
it
becomes
an
extend
you
can,
then
you
know
periodically
extend
that
line
further
out,
as
other
folks
are
having
this
problem,
because
if
they're
having
the
problem
with
attainted
well
in
the
area,
it's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
issue
there.
E
G
B
E
E
B
It
off
those
buns,
yet,
okay,
any
other
questions
of
staff
yeah.
Would
you
like
to
say
anything
on
behalf
the.
B
B
G
I
E
E
Don't
notify,
folks
that
you
know
now
there's
a
contiguous
boundary
that
there
are
contiguous
boundary
has
moved
specifically,
and
you
know
into
your
area
and
there's
now
water
and
wastewater,
it's
up
to
them
if
they
have
an
interest
to
come
to
us,
because
essentially
you're
poaching,
the
county's
customers
really,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we
we
will
provide
whatever
facilities
we
can.
Where
we
can
on
the
process
is
what
it
is
unfortunate.
Unfortunately,
I
agree
with
you
chairman.
E
This
is
a
really
hard
process
for
someone
who
just
wants
to
get
a
what
well
they
go
through
a
lot
of
steps
to
get
there,
but
unfortunately,
this
is
what
we.
This
is
what
we
have
for
them
it
with
that
I.
We
don't
really
have
a
process
of
notification,
that's
something
that
I
can
kind
of
talk
to
the
same
manager.
E
There's
actually
a
form
now
for
you
to
ask
that
question,
because
we
kind
of
that
came
into
planning
and
zoning
inherited
the
utility
availability
statement
process.
So
now
what
happens
is
folks
now
go
on
the
web
they
plug
in
their
information
and
it
we
we
get
an
email
and
planning
and
email
goes
to
utilities.
We
provide
that
information
directly
to
them,
so
we
at
least
are
making
it
strides
to
make
it
more
user-friendly,
but
we
aren't
currently
doing
any
kind
of
outreach
to
folks
on
that.
C
B
F
G
G
E
You
don't
have
too
much
to
say
other
than
I
have
a
couple
of
things
that
I
just
want
to
bring
to
your
attention.
I'm
going
to
try
in
the
very
near
future
to
at
least
put
together
some
basic
information
on
what
you
guys
had
discussed
about
the
dark
skies
initiative
and
kind
of
just
pass
it
around
for
information
purposes.
I
might
just
get
some
in
for
me.
Is
some
interest
from
you
guys.
E
You
know
what
you're
most
interested
in
looking
at
it
could
take
me
a
really
long
time
to
write
a
piece
of
legislation
that
would
make
sense
here
if
I
really
don't
know
what
you
guys
are
going
after.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
just
under
the
staff
comments
section
will
bring
back,
probably
the
first,
the
the
issue
with
the
with
advertising
and
that
Denise
I
think
that's
a
shorter
piece
and
then
once
I've,
given
you
guys
some
time
to
digest
that
dark
skies.
Information
I'll,
probably
give
you
a
lot
of
it
by
email.
E
E
Maybe
we
don't
need
this,
because
obviously
we
don't
want
to
make
it
too
complex
for
folks,
but
we
want
to
make
it
so
it's
going
to
be
effective,
an
effective
tool
for
this
board
to
utilize,
so
I'll
probably
start
doing
that,
and
then
you
in
the
very
near
future.
I
have
a
few
resources
that
I've
kind
of
collected
at
this
point.
When
I've
had
five
ten
minutes
to
just
surf
the
net,
it
doesn't
I.
E
Don't
get
that
much
time
to
do
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I'm
going
to
have
that
on
going
because
I'd
like
to
start
tackling
some
of
those
issues
that
you
guys
have
asked
about
into
the
new
year.
Now
that
we're
getting
caught
up
in
your
minutes,
that's
like
the
next
big
thing.
I
really
want
to
go
after
is
those
things
that
you
kind
of
you
guys
have
kind
of
indicated
to
me
and
bring
those
forward,
at
least
for
you
to
kind
of
discuss.
E
B
You
very
much
on
the
topic
of
the
dark
sky
measure
and
involving
excessive
lighting.
There
is
a
book
in
the
library
that,
if
any
the
board
members
want
to
check
it
out,
I
recommend
it
highly
it's
out
it's
what
got
me
interested
in
the
topic
basically,
and
it's
produced
by
the
dark
sky
Association
and
it's
very
informative
and
of
course,
their
website
has
some
model
ordinances.
H
B
I
B
B
D
A
E
Know
yet
right
now,
I
know
I
know
they'll
be
one
in
October,
because
I
have
active
applications.
They'll
be
coming
forward
to
you
right
now,
November
I'm,
not
out
that
far
as
far
as
this
particular
board
is
concerned,
so
I'll,
let
you
I'll,
let
you
know
that's
so
that
I
can
send
out
to
you
guys
once
I
know
when
we
get
a
little
bit
farther
along,
but
we
have
kind
of
slowed
down
in
planning
and
zoning
as
far
as
getting
new
plans
now
we're
just
trying
to
clean
up
what
has
is
running
through
the
process.
B
Would
like
to
thank
each
the
board
members.
I
think
that
I
noticed
tonight,
but
it's
been
going
on
that
our
comments
have
been
to
the
point.
Our
questions
have
been
to
the
point:
we're
not
rambling
on
a
lot
and
I
appreciate
that,
because
everyone's
time
is
bible,
we
don't
like
to
be
home
with
our
families
and
doing
whatever
we
want
to
do
in
the
evenings,
and
so
I
do
appreciate
not
only
your
attendance
here
in
the
evenings,
but
that
would
keep
our
comments
and
questions
to
the
issue.
That's
before
us
and
I
do
appreciate
that.
B
E
E
Were
for
certain
aspects
of
that
bill
of
any
building
and
historic
district
depends
on
what
they're
doing.
There
are
some
things
that
they
can
do,
because
they
don't
regularly
color
and
certain
things.
There
are
some
things
that
they
can
do
to
the
building,
but
the
windows,
specifically,
he
needed
to
come
back
through
the
process.
E
The
reason
why
it
went
the
way
it
was
is
Anthony
was
not
aware
that
there
were
that
there
were
any
different
changes
to
the
building
and
he
didn't
know
that
those
windows
were
there
when
I
meet
when
I
went
and
found
all
the
historical
pictures
and
brought
him
down
to
him.
He
then
cited
him
why
it's
taken
the
applicant
this
long
to
get
to
us
I,
don't
know
they
are
scheduled
to
go
before
the
HP
be
bored
in
October,
but
why
it
took
that
long
is
a
very
good
question.
E
E
It
depends
on
which
one
that
it
comes
through,
but
I
really
cannot
get
either
one,
whether
it's
a
code
enforcement
violation
or
whether
it's
a
building
code
violation,
I
really
cannot
get
at
those
applicants
to
comply
with
the
intent
is
that
we
want
them
to
comply,
but
I
can't
force
them.
I
can't
force
their
compliance.
All
that
we
can
do
is
site
them
through
that
process
and
then
let
the
process
run
its
course.
E
A
E
It's
not
that
he
didn't
know.
He
just
didn't
know
that
the
window,
the
changes
on
the
window
because
it
was
it,
was
a
drastic
change.
The
problem
that
you
have
is
there's
a
wire
that
goes
across
there.
So
if
you're,
just
driving
by
you,
don't
see
that
because
it
still
seems
like
there's
a
line
there,
the
line
doesn't
physically
exist
and
until
they
went
in
and
we
pulled,
the
actual
historic
I
mean
I
have
stuff
going
back
to
horse
and
buggy
in
front
of
it.
Okay,
that's
so
we
have
the
built.
E
A
Window
frame
is
different,
now
different
design
and
to
get
that
glass
back
it's
very
hard
and
very
expensive,
and
that's
one
of
the
items
that
puts
us
on
the
historic
dock.
It
is
what
we've
got
there
and
I'm
concerned,
and
it's
gone
all
the
way
across
now
and
I'm
concerned
that
we
don't
lose.
You
know
anything
with
our
historic
designation
on
I.
Don't
know
the
man
I,
don't
know
what
he's
doing
I
don't
even
know
who,
if
the
olds
are
building
or
what's
happening,
but
when
I
saw
that
was
taken
out.