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From YouTube: Planning & Zoning Board October 17, 2016
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City of Tarpon Springs Planning and Zoning Board meeting October 17, 2016
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Item
number
three
actually
is
going
to
need
to
be
deferred
to
November
21st
2016,
which
is
your
next
meeting
at
this
point.
Don't
reason
why
word
referring
is
it
needs?
It
needs
to
load
some
additional
work
with
the
cultural
service
division
and
you
do
a
little
bit
more
work
on
it.
So
we're
would
like
to
preserve
the
advertising
on
the
application
at
this
point
and
as
a
result,
we're
looking
to
defer
it
to
a
date
certain
which
is
the
21st.
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And
I'd
have
to
check
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
I,
don't
think
that
there's
anybody
else
meeting
here
or
there's
no
performance.
But
we
have
to
verify
that.
That's
why
we
say
the
schedule
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
so
that
we
have
those
dates
reserved
for
you.
But
I'd
have
to
check
to
make
sure
that
that's
that
that's
available
either
28
the
28th
well.
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Don't
really
have
anything
this
you,
this
has
put
at
your
request
on
to
the
agenda.
What
I
put
in
the
backup
was
what
is
currently
available
for
the
public
hearing
in
general
and
including
the
site
planning
requirement
allowances
and
requirements
at
this
point
there
are
no
notice
requirements
for
site
plan
approval,
and
so
staff
would
like
that
to
remain
that
way,
because
posting
signs
and
putting
in
advertisements
in
the
newspaper
gets
very
costly
and
that
applet
those
costs
get
term
get
put
on
to
the
burden
on
to
the
applicant.
F
You
just
you
indicated
at
the
last
meeting
that
you
wanted
to
talk
about
it.
So
I
put
it
on
this
agenda
being
that
we
only
had
one
application
anyway,
figure
to
be
a
good
time
to
talk
about
it,
along
with
the
other
discussion
item
that
you
guys
had
asked
for
me
to
redo
a
little
bit
of
research
and
get
back
to
you
on.
So
that's
why
it's
on
the
agenda
when.
F
The
process
first
site
plan
approval
is
the
initial
application
is
submitted.
Whenever
the
applicant
chooses
they
then
go
to
TRC,
they
can
be
an
TRC
for
a
single
meeting.
They
can
be
in
TR
ce
from
multiple
meetings,
that's
really
dependent
on
the
applicant
and
the
quality
of
the
site
plan
that
they
bring
forward
once
they
have
cleared
TRC.
We
schedule
them
on
the
next
available
agenda.
Sometimes
that
is
as
little
as
a
week
between
the
TRC
meeting
the
final
TRC
meeting
and
when
your
agenda
is
actually
posted.
Sometimes
it's
three
weeks.
Sometimes
it's
two
weeks.
F
It
just
depends
on
whether
it's
the
first
meeting
or
the
second
meeting
that
they
hit
and
the
TRC
bitter
TRC
meetings
are
avail.
Art
happened
twice
a
month
so
depending
upon
which
meeting
they
hit
sometimes
they've
already.
You've
already
had
your
meeting
for
the
month
before
they
have
to
wait
to
the
following
month.
In
that
case,
it's
almost
four
weeks,
sometimes
the
they
hit
the
early
meeting
in
the
month.
I
can
get
them
on
your
agenda
just
depending
upon
where
you're
that
particular
Monday
falls.
So
usually
it's
not
more
than
two
weeks.
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Well,
you
can
recommend
to
the
board
of
commissioners
whatever
this
board,
this
board
sees
fit
to
do
because
it's
going
to
require
an
ordinance
change
to
do
any
type
of
notification
right
now.
That's
that
particular
application
type
does
not
require
any
type
of
notification.
So
it's
basically
going
through
the
amendment
process
to
amend
the
code
to
require
whatever
type
of
advertising
that
you
would
like
to
require
on
that.
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Essentially,
right
now,
the
only
notice
that
they
receive
is
when
I
post
your
agenda
to
the
website
and
post
all
the
packet
that
thing,
so
they
received
the
same
amount
of
a
notice,
essentially
that
you
receive-
and
you
can
do
any
number
of
things
that
you
want-
that
you
would
like
to
do.
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
attorney
on
whether
or
not
there's
a
problem
with
using
an
informal
informal
process
or
not,
because
that's
not
something
that
I
site
plans
are
a
little
different
in
most
municipalities
or
not
that's
not
true.
F
In
most
communities,
the
larger
communities
they
are
administrative
function.
There
is
no
notice,
so
there
is
no
statutory
requirement
for
notice.
That's
why
there's
no
requirement
like
for
a
variance
or
for
a
conditional
use?
You
don't
have
any
requirements
or
for
a
comp
plan,
amendment
or
rezoning.
Those
are
statutorily
mandated
processes
that
you
have
to
follow
their.
If
you
choose
to
have
those
types
of
applications,
you
have
a
mandated
process.
Site
planning
is
a
little
bit
different.
C
You
guys
can
recommend
any
type
of
notification
requirement
that
you
want
right
now.
Like
Heather
said
you
know,
you
are
posting
the
agenda.
That
is,
that
is
technically
the
minimum
amount
of
notification
that
you've
got
noticed.
That
is
available.
It's
the
most
informal
amount
of
notice,
that's
available,
and
then
once
your
recommendation
goes
to
the
BOC,
then
another
notice
is
posted
or
they're.
You
know
meeting
so
I
mean
there
is
some
informal
notice
already
given
before
it
comes
to
you.
C
If
you're
looking
for
a
more
formal
notice,
you
can
certainly
recommend
that,
but,
as
Heather
said,
it
would
be
going
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
It
would
be
an
amendment
to
to
the
the
ordinances,
the
code
of
ordinances
and
that
there
would
be
a
cost
component
with
that,
because
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
take
either.
C
If
you
want
written
notice,
if
you
want
postcards
to
go
out
depending
upon
what
type
of
notice
that
you
want,
there
is
going
to
be
a
cost
component
of
that,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
Florida
Statute
or
even
in
your
code
that
prohibit
you
from
requiring
strickler
notice
requirement.
That
would
just
be
recommendation.
F
I
know
that
I
don't
send
it
specifically
to
the
library,
if
they're,
if
they're
taking
it
off
the
website
and
then
posting
it
physically
posting
in
the
library,
then
that
would
be
worth
how
it's
getting
there
at
this
point,
the
only
other
place
that
I'm
aware
of
that
it
goes
is
the
clerk's
office
and
they
get
a
copy
of
your
packets
available,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
website
now,
because
the
websites
available
for
anybody
to
download
any
information
they
want.
So
we
put
it
up
on
there.
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Your
agendas
are
posted
here
in
this
building
on
every
door,
they're
also
posted
down
by
my
office.
The
agenda
and
the
applications
are
available
for
a
view
upon
anybody
wants
to
view
them
at
any
point
in
time,
whether
it's
scheduled
for
a
hearing
or
not,
we
make
that
stuff
available
and
the
clerk
does
keep
a
copy
or
has
a
veil
ability
to
copy
down
there
if
they
need
it
once
I
post
it
to
the
website,.
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F
The
last
meeting
we
talked
about
the
tarpon
turtle
application,
the
site
plan
application
for
the
tarpon
turtle
for
the
parking
lot.
They
finally
came
through
that
with
that
last
phase,
and
during
that
discussion
this
board
had
indicated
that
they
wanted
to
know
if
there
was
notice-
and
there
was
no
notice
to
the
tarpon
sale
in
tennis
club
or
to
any
of
those
folks,
because
you
don't
currently
have
a
process
for
site
plan
notice.
F
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F
You
can
the
answer
to
that
question
is
yes,
you
can.
This
board
can
make
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
county
commissioners
and,
if
earth
sorry
to
the
City
Commission
to
decide
if
they
want
to
allow
notice
or
require
notice
for
site
plans.
You
can't
you
know,
require
it,
but
you
ask
for
a
change
in
our
at
ordinances.
That
would
then
require
staff
to
notice.
However,
you
want
to
do
it
postcards
ads
in
the
newspaper
placards
on
the
property.
Those
are
all.
Those
are.
A
F
E
As
a
resident
myself,
I
think
I
would
find
it
to
be,
I
would
want
to
be
informed
other
than
just
having
to
go
onto
a
website
and
look
what's
on
the
agenda.
If
one
of
my
neighbors
are
a
neighboring
business,
that's
close
to
me
is
going
to
be
submitting
a
site
plan
and
changing
the
area
of
a
neighboring
property
I
as
a
resident
I
would
appreciate
the
information
I.
Think
myself,
so
I
don't
read
a
newspaper
and
at
all,
like
a
format.
That's
traditionally
done.
I
read
it
in
my
phone
I.
E
Think
newspaper
advertisements
is
a
thing
of
the
past
myself
and
is
ultimately
wasted
money,
but
I
mean
this
simple
format
of
seeing
a
postcard
or
putting
a
blackout
in
the
person's
yard
or
area
businessman
via
just
that
informal
way
of
saying,
hey
look.
This
is
going
to
be
coming
up
from
the
board,
just
as
a
courtesy
to
as
a
neighboring
resident
I
think
it's
a
courtesy
that
the
city
should
really
look.
D
Like
to
join
you,
they
in
my
area,
where
they're
doing
before
the,
where
they're
doing
the
Bayshore
development
as
things
come
up,
I
wouldn't
do
the
whole
area
of
Sunset
Hills,
but
the
immediate
property
owners
sunset
drive
their
base
door,
just
the
very
immediate
ones.
To
get
a
postcard
and
put
up
with
you
fall
at
placket,
put
up
two
packets
in
the
area,
so
people
will
see
them
and
read.
What's
going
on,
that's
just
an
example:
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
hold
of
three
or
four
hundred
homes
is
the
affected
prop
feel.
E
H
Are
there
situations
where
people
are
applying
for
site
plans
without
having
previously
or
or
at
the
same
time,
applied
for
variances
or
previously
applied
for
rezoning
or
I
mean?
Are
we
duplicated
the
notice
requirements?
If
we
added
on
to
the
site
plan,
or
are
there
cases
where
site
plans
come
through
without
any
other
actions
that
would
have
already
required
notices?
There.
F
Are
situations
where
site
plans
will
come
in
the
zoning
will
be,
will
be
correct
for
it,
so
they
don't
have
to
rezone,
there's
no
annexation
required.
There
are
so
many
situations
where
variances
I
mean
we
want
to
discourage
your
earrings
does
not
encourage
them.
So
there's
lots
of
applications
that
don't
have
a
variance
component.
There
are
it's
a
very
small,
historic
district,
so
the
businesses
that
you
have
going
into
the
historic
district
are
usually
going
into
already
developed
properties.
So
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
site
plans
there.
F
So
most
of
the
site
plans
that
you
will
have
come
in
are
going
to
be
maybe
a
50-50
split,
where
there's
a
previous,
a
previous
application
that
has
a
notice
component
and
then
fifty
fifty
percent
that
are
not
going
to
have
that
notice
component
so
places
like
Bayshore
bayshore
had
a
number
of
types
of
applications
that
came
forward
as
part
of
that
process.
The
site
planning
application
was.
The
final
part
was
the
final
piece
for
that
they
had
changed.
F
The
underlying
are
that
developer
agreement,
so
that
property
was
notice
during
the
development
agreement
process
there
were
other.
There
were
other
applications
in
that
instance
Cypress
trails,
which
that
you
approved
off
of
jasmine
had
the
same
thing.
They
had
multiple
variances
on
that
project
before
the
site
plan
actually
came
before
before
you,
but
we
recognize
that
a
variance
and
some
of
these
other
applications
are
good
for
more
than
a
year.
So
it
can
be
two
three
or
four
years
from
the
time
that
variance
placards
out
there
till
the
time
a
site
plan
comes
through
here.
C
No,
it's
not
stepping
on
the
rights
of
the
property
owner.
If
you
give
somebody
notice
that
something
is
happening,
the
way
that
went
you
know
like
any
application.
If
it
comes
before
a
board,
they
have
criteria
that
needs
to
be
determined
public
comment
it
while
nice.
It
just
gives
the
public
and
opportunity
to
say
what
they
need
to
say,
whether
they
submit
evidence
or
not,
is
really
up
to
them,
but
that's
not
infringing
on
the
right
to
the
property
owner.
Didn't.
A
F
H
H
G
G
My
concern
is
in
some
of
the
notice
requirements
where
there's
a
200-foot
notice
and
we
send
out
the
post
guards
to
the
adjoining
property
owners
within
that
distance
in
some
instances,
especially
if
you're
in
a
historic
district
or
in
any
other
special
district
within
the
city.
That
I
think
there
ought
to
be
some
way
of
some
additional
notice
to
the
folks
who
were
in
that
district,
whether
it's
a
historical
district
of
her
special
districts,
a
like
and
a
sponge
docks
I,
don't
know
you.
G
Cra
area
and
I
was
thinking
that
the
city
manager's
page
on
Facebook
is
a
very
I
know.
We
post
things
on
the
web,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
see
things
on
Facebook
and
maybe
an
informal
notice
or
additional
notice
of
those
type
of
things
to
generate
some
not
generate
the
public
interest
but
allow
others
who
are
beyond
the
scope
of
the
statutory
notice
that
they
may
be
interested
in
what's
happening
in
their
neighborhood.
The.
F
Problem
with
using
Facebook
is,
you
cannot
disable
the
comedy
section
that
becomes
a
problem
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
a
perspective
of
this
board,
who
is
supposed
to
act
with
the
evidence
that
you
receive
the
night
of
the
hearing?
Boa
it's
even
more
of
an
issue
HPB,
it's
even
more
of
an
issue
because
those
are
a
single
hearing.
F
They
are
the
decision-makers
and,
on
those
applications,
they've
been
appointed
to
make
that
decision
that
night,
if
they're,
if
we're
putting
up
notices
and
they
are
reading
facebook
and
I-
can't
stop
you
guys
from
reading
facebook
and
what
you
read
on
facebook,
I
just
like
I
can't
talk
to
stop.
You
is
even
though
you're
not
supposed
to
talk
to
each
other.
F
I
can't
stop
that
from
happening
as
a
result
of
that,
there's
no
way
for
us
to
control
that
flow
of
information
to
the
Commission,
the
Commission,
the
commissioners
or
to
you
as
board
members
and
as
a
result,
that's
not
something
that
I
would
recommend
at
all.
I,
don't
think
the
city
manager
is
going
to
have
any
interest
in
doing
that.
Simply
because
of
the
fact
that
you're
dealing
with
the
comment
section
you're
dealing
with
influence
of
those
type
of
things.
F
Well,
it's
a
great
intention
to
to
try
to
get
you
know
a
bigger
audience
out
there.
It's
also
not
just
open
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
residents,
it's
open
to
the
bigger
world
and
you
can
have
people
trying
to
influence
from
outside.
So
I'd
have
some
real
concerns
about
doing
that.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
F
Social
media
is
a
great
alternative,
but
until
we
have
a
platform
where
we
can
control
the
information,
I
think
the
websites,
the
better
Avenue,
if
it's
a
question
of
providing
or
directing
people
to
that
website,
that's
certainly
something
that
press
releases
and
that
type
of
thing
that
the
city
can
send
out.
I
recognize
that
some
of
you
don't
read
the
newspaper,
but
that
is
the
statutorily
pride.
That
is
the
statutory
preference
for.
F
Where
are
these
notices
need
legal
notices
and
things
need
to
go
so
I,
don't
know
until
the
stat
until
the
state
changes
those
requirements.
How
much
more
we
can.
You
don't
fix
that,
even
though
it's
not
a
platform
that
a
lot
of
people
use
anymore,
it
is
a
statutory
required
platform
other
than
providing
some
type
of
City
billboard,
or
something
like
that.
That's
online,
where
people
can
go
to
I
mean
the
website
kind
of
functions.
Is
that
I
don't
know
what
the
best
way
of
dealing
with
that
is
I.
G
Understand
the
point
about
that
and
I
think
it's
well
taken
as
far
as
the
problems
with
comments,
another
alternative,
maybe
for
those
who
are
in
special
districts,
whether
it's
a
historic
district
or
the
CRA
or
the
sponge
docks
district.
If
the
city
could
reach
out
and
inquire
of
those
owners
occupants
either
by
mail
or
somewhat
where
they
would
say,
I
would
like
to
receive
an
email,
that's
a
one-way
transmission
of
notice
that
they
could
sign
up
voluntarily.
G
D
G
F
Have
to
look
at
inai
11,
you
can
I
mean
there
are
platforms
out
there
that
you
and
apps
that
you
can.
You
can
do
that
for
noticing
for,
like
an
informal
things,
folks
use
use
a
couple
of
different
forms
for
that
we'd
have
to
look
into
it.
Just
to
see
you
know,
what's
the
best
type
of
forum
to
utilize,
that
folks
would
be
interested
in
and
being
part
of,
I,
don't
think
II
911
you're
going
to
qualify
for
these
type
of
notices,
but
there
may
be
some
other
system
out
there.
F
That
is
similar
in
the
way
it
functions.
Where
you
can,
you
know
I
know
the
same
thing
happens
for
like
know
your
zone
and
that
type
of
thing
you
a
lot
of
times.
You
can
call
into
those
type
of
resources
as
well.
You
know
punching
your
address
and
boom.
It
tells
you
how
you're
an
A
or
a
B
or
whatever
so
that
may
be
another.
Another
is
a
is
a
call
and
type
thing
where,
if
they
put
their
address
in
you
know,
we
have
a
preset
limit
of.
F
F
In
those
cases,
there
are
placards
that
are
placed
on
those
sites
which
have
our
phone
number
on
it.
Where
we
would,
you
know,
encourage
people
when
they
see
those
to
call
and
ask
about
the
application.
Obviously
we
can
give
them
any
information
if
they
have
a
web.
If
they
have
an
email
address,
we
can
even
send
the
entire
application
to
folks
may
we
create
a
digital
copy
now
when
it
comes
boxed
on
the
door,
so
that
information
is
available
it
can
be
readily
shipped
to
whoever
wants
to
review
it.
F
Very
true
that
is
it,
that
is
the
limitation
of
the
sign,
is,
if
you
can't
visually
see
it,
then
it's
really
not
helpful.
D
A
F
A
F
D
G
G
I,
don't
know
not
on
the
square
where
feet
we're
not
talking
Ariel,
be.
F
Correct
and
and
right
now,
currently,
all
other
applications
are
at
200
feet
for
a
radius
and
if
you're
going
to
you,
can't
make
this
one
more
restrictive
than
the
other
ones.
So
essentially
all
of
them
go
to
400
or
you
come
down
a
200,
that's
something
that
would
have
to
I
mean
you
have
to
reconcile
that
with
the
other
application
types.
D
G
F
Said
that's
pretty
much
completely
at
your
discretion.
The
chair
and
I
had
talked
about
that.
He
has
another
commitment.
So
if
you
want
to
talk
about
I'm,
welcome
to
stay
and
talk
about
it,
if
you
want
to
take
it
digest
it,
this
is
the
runs,
the
gamut
from
very,
very
basic
information
to
a
lot
more
like
intermediate
information.
F
So
it
is
a
lot
of
information,
I
kind
of
put
it
together
so
that
you
can
have
a
good
understanding,
you're
still
probably
going
to
have
to
google
some
of
the
terms
and
things
just
because
of
the
the
information
is
is
out
there,
but
I
did
include
the
websites
that
I
found
the
information
at.
So
you
should
be
able
to
go
back
and
get
it.
If
you
have
a
problem,
please
let
me
know-
and
I
will
try
to
help
you
get
what
you
need.
I
I.
D
B
G
A
G
E
Just
got
a
comment:
I
think
the
city
is
continuously
ignored,
the
safety
of
the
pedestrians
around
a
bayou
area
being
a
longtime
resident
of
Tarpon
Springs
and
still
living
in
the
Bayou
districts.
There's
very
there's,
not
an
urgency
or
really
a
safety
concern
for
pedestrians
and
many
of
our
roads
and
cross
walks
on
all
parts
of
the
by.
If
it's
Kramer
by
you,
if
it's
Whitcomb
by
you
Spring,
has
a
little
bit
more
of
a
safer
area
but
there's
still
no
crosswalks
in
the
spring
Bayou
area.
E
Also,
but
that's
something
that,
as
a
citizen
of
unit
of
Tarpon,
Springs
and
here,
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
talk
about.
More
is
a
safety
of
our
pedestrians.
If
we
want
to
be
a
walkable
community,
that's
something
that
we
promote
during
through,
but
that
might
not.
That
might
be
something
to
bring
up
to
the
board
of
commissions
and
I
meeting.
Also
too
well.
A
I'd
also
like
who's
going
to
bring
that
up
tonight
as
well.
I
walk
around
the
Bayou
there
I
live
and
by
the
old
library,
and
you
there's
not
a
sidewalk.
That
goes
all
the
way
around
the
bayou
I
mean
in
I
have
to
walk
on
the
road
in
some
parts
and
some
parts
you
can't
and
why
the
tarpon
yacht
club
doesn't
have
a
sidewalk
right
there,
I
don't
see
how
they
get
it.
Why,
with
that,
there's
other
places
that
it
just
doesn't
seem
right,
I
know,
that's
not
our
deal,
which
also
brings
up.