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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Board May 20, 2019
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This
is
a
quadrille
proceeding
where
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
acts
any
quadrille
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
and
a
quasi
Hershel
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
containing
the
Code
of
Ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
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The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing.
The
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
The
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
Code
of
Ordinances
and
the
board's
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
the
Commodus,
substantial
and
Renova
evidence
of
the
here
demonstrates
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
establishing
the
photo
horses
and
the
board's
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
app
there.
E
Any
members
of
the
board
wishing
to
disclose
any
ex
parte
communication
or
conflict
of
interest
in
no
anyone
that
is
going
to
speak
tonight.
You
could
please
stand
raise
your
right
hand
to
be
sworn
in.
If
you
think
your
to
be
coming
up
to
the
podium,
do
you
think
you
might
be
speaking
just
it
best
to
get
sworn
in
now?
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Yes,
if
you
think
your
yes,
if
you
think
you
might
be
speaking,
it's
better
off
just
standing
up
and
raising
your
right
hand,
and
you
swear
from
the
truth.
You
swear
from
the
testimony
about
to
give
tonight
is
the
truth.
The
whole
truth,
nothing
about
the
truth,
so
sworn
and
cheered,
just
let
you
know
pretty
Doug.
You
have
four
members
tonight
which
is
a
quorum,
because
there
is
less
than
a
full
board.
If
any
applicant
wishes
to
defer
their
application
to
the
next
meeting,
when
a
full
board
may
be
present,
they
have
that
right.
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This
is
a
site
plan:
approval
for
Athens
place
apartments
for
36
dwelling
units
plus
recreational
amenities.
This
is
Ana
c
rd
land
use
district,
t4c,
residential
high
zoning
district.
This
includes
36
apartments,
recreational
amenities,
including
the
swimming
pool
and
picnic,
shelters,
accompanying
apartment
parking
and
drainage,
and
this
is
some
over
basically
on
the
corner
of
Athens
and
North
Sanford
Avenue
again,
this
isn't
a
special
area
plan
of
our
zoning
districts
in
the
t4c
and
in
the
Uptown
character.
F
District
apartment
buildings
are
permitted
as
a
use
by
right
in
that
district,
and
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
requirements
of
the
t4c
district.
The
Technical
Review
Committee
reviewed
this
project,
the
last
time
on
April
4th
2019
and
with
some
recommended
conditions
we
found
the
project
to
be
sufficiently
in
compliance
to
move
forward.
The
project
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
It's
in
compliance
with
the
city's
land
development
code.
F
The
developer
is
responsible
for
meeting
the
minimum
criteria,
the
land
development
code
and
for
acquiring
all
other
jurisdictional
permits
and
approvals.
The
construction
plan
shall
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
Our
requisite
bees
attended
to
the
project
shall
be
paid
in
accordance
with
the
land
development
code.
The
tree
preservation
plan
and
Street
screening
shall
be
compliant
with
the
requirements
of
the
land
development
code
prior
to
a
construction
permit
being
issued
and
prior
to
the
issuance
of
the
construction
permit.
The
project
must
address
to
the
city,
satisfaction
all
of
the
city
comments,
Rico.
F
The
applicants
proposed
proposed
plan
for
handling
of
stormwater
runoff,
as
outlined
in
the
comment.
The
city's
comment
memo
the
proposed
plan
for
handling
of
stormwater
runoff
will
require
a
modification
with
the
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District
permit
for
the
project
and
a
copy
of
the
permit
is
required
to
be
provided
to
the
city
and
number
six.
The
site
plan
shall
expire
at
one
year
from
the
effective
date
unless
an
application
has
been
filed
for
a
building
permit.
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F
Will
be
presented
at
a
later
time.
Basically,
the
site
layout
is
acceptable
and,
and
our
stormwater
review
indicates
that
there
will
be
no
changes
to
the
site
layout
so
that
these
are
some
of
the
details
because
of
I
think
some
difficulties
more
so
with
the
physical
difficulties
with
the
site
that
the
engineers
have
to
have
the
finalized
work
out.
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Okay,
thank
you.
Next,
on
our
list,
we've
had
a
revision.
So
next
on
our
list,
number
five
is
application.
Number
eighteen,
159
conditional
use
approval,
allow
expansion
of
an
existing
mini
warehouse
storage
warehouse
by
converting
sixteen
thousand
three
hundred
and
thirty-five
square
feet
of
commercial
retail
use
to
a
mini
warehouse,
use
on
4
point
10
acres
of
land
located
at
1730,
southbound
sava
new
in
the
highway
business,
HB
zoning
district
and
from
what
I
understand,
we
don't
have
enough
information
on
this
tonight,
so
I'm
going
to
pass
on
this
one
and
we'll
bring
it
up.
F
Yes,
the
city
staff
has
had
discussions
with
the
applicant
as
well
have
to
be
continued.
There
is
a
there
are
revisions
to
the
plan.
Made
necessarily
short
story
is
that
apparently,
a
portion
of
the
site
that
the
applicant
came
in
for
is
actually
not
in
the
city's
jurisdiction
and
it's
an
unincorporated
County
and
no
one
realized
it
so
yeah.
They
are
currently
revising
the
plans,
and
we
can
continue
this
to
date,
certain
of
June,
your
june
17
meeting,
because
they
will
be
able
to
come
back.
A
All
right
number,
six
application
number
18,
177
amendment
to
a
planned
development
amendment
to
an
existing
plan
development,
including
preliminary
development
plan,
approval
amendment
of
the
future
land
use,
designation
from
r
/o
r
residential
office,
retail
IG
industrial
general.
An
amendment
of
the
zoning
designation
from
CBD
commercial
plan
development,
IPD
industrial
plan
development
in
order
to
construct
an
automobile
collision
repair
facility
on
2.28
acres
of
land
along
the
east
side
of
us
19.
Approximately
four
hundred
and
twenty
seven
feet
north
of
River
Watch
Boulevard.
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F
F
This
is
a
2.2
8
acre
parcel
just
currently
part
of
a
larger
nine
acre
parcel
a
little
over
nine
acres.
This
parcel
will
be
separated
from
the
rest
of
that
nine
acres
to
complete
this
project,
the
future
land
use
and
the
zoning
amendments
applied
to
the
2.28
acre
parcel.
Only
the
rest
of
it
will
remain,
as
is
the
applicant
intends
to
develop
the
property
with
an
autumn
only
automobile
collision
repair
facility
within
a
new
16900
900
square
foot.
Building
this
facility
is
consistent
with
the
proposed
zoning
in
her
future
lanista
designations.
F
The
countywide
designation
is
currently
retail
and
services
that
designation
will
need
to
be
changed
to
industrial
page.
Three
of
the
staff
report
lists
the
uses
and
densities
and
the
standards
for
the
current
and
future
and
proposed
future
land
use,
and
also
for
the
current
and
proposed
countywide
categories.
F
The
larger
parcel,
together,
together
with
the
current
site
of
northern
Northern,
Tool
and
equipment,
were
all
the
subject
of
one
large
commercial
plan
development
in
the
past
yeah
it
was.
It
was
2000
2007
that
that
CPD
was
approved.
Obviously
northern
too
was
built.
The
rest
of
it
was
never
built
so
that
development
plan
development
has
expired.
It's
almost
like
a
master
plan
that
has
expired,
so
they
would
need
to
come
back
either
way
to
develop
the
rest
of
that
property
northern
tool.
F
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
information
was
that
parcel
was
split
off.
It
is
so
part
of
these
shared
facilities,
but
it
was
split
from
the
it
was
part
of
the
one
it
was
one
large
parcel
previously
in
northern
tool
was
split
off
this
split
of
this.
Some
current
parcel
that's
coming
before
you.
It
would
be
a
second
split,
which
is
why
they
have
to
go
through
site
plan
subdivision
and
planned
development
revision
on
this
property.
F
Yeah,
so
the
so
the
applicant
will
be
bordered
by
the
left
over
CPD
zoning
on
either
side.
If
this
this
project,
this
rezoning
is
approved,
the
proposed
plan
development
is
compatible
and
consistent
with
development
along
this
portion
of
the
US
highway
19
corridor
and
the
future
land
use
map.
Amendment
from
RoR
to
industrial
limited
is
appropriate
at
this
location,
industrial
general.
That
should
say
with
respect
to
the
zoning.
F
The
IPD
zoning
designation
is
also
consistent
with
the
proposed
IG
future
land-use
category.
The
uses
proposed
again
adjacent
to
like
uses
along
the
US
19
and
is
appropriate
relative
to
the
placement
norine
tation
of
surrounding
uses.
The
IG
district
provides
for
the
light
industrial
uses
as
a
primary
use
with
respect
to
impacts
to
nearby
uses.
The
project
is
proposed
to
operate
on
weekdays
only
with
daytime
hours.
The
work
will
be
housed
entirely
within
the
building.
F
There
will
be
traffic
access
directly
from
us
19
and
will
be
shared.
Driveway
soreness,
with
up
with
the
adjacent
development
lighting
will
be
cut
off.
So
it's
not
to
impact
residential
areas.
There's
an
existing
eight,
but
masonry
wall
poured
in
more
during
the
rear
of
the
property,
and
the
applicant
will
be
providing
additional
landscaping
behind
that
wall.
F
F
Will
not
be
degraded
and
level
of
service
will
be
met.
The
applicant
did
have
to
submit
a
transportation
management
plan.
One
of
the
things
that
we
found
in
or
did
not
find
in
our
research
is
that
the
original
CPD
apparently
did
not
have
a
concurrency
certificate
vesting
trips,
so
the
applicant
did
have
to
do
trip
generation,
estimates
and
found
that
it
was.
F
The
proposal
is
two
trips
over
our
peak,
our
limit
for
having
a
transportation
management
plan,
so
it's
a
relatively
moderate
to
low
trip
generator
as
compared
to
basically
what
would
have
what
would
have
been
at
the
site,
the
commercial
and
so
that
that's
what
caused
the
applicant
to
have
to
do.
The
management.
F
F
Public
notice
was
provided,
as
required,
staff
received
five
email
correspondences,
which
have
been
provided
and
I
think
the
applicant
has
a
presentation
and
staff
is
also
prepared
to
to
respond.
I
think
the
mate.
Some
of
the
main
concerns
were
traffic
impact,
environmental,
meaning
the
the
operation
of
the
use
itself
and
noise,
those
sorts
of
things,
lighting
and
I
think
there
was
some
concern
about
stormwater,
so
we'll
be
glad
to
address
those
and
maybe
hear
from
the
applicant
see
if
see
if
they
can
address
those
and
answer
some
questions
about.
What's
going
to
be
happening,
there.
J
Good
evening,
I
met
Armstrong
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
law.
Firm
Hill,
Ward
Henderson
I'm
here
tonight,
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
I,
represent
cross
development.
They
have
a
contract
to
purchase
the
subject,
property
I
think
the
combination
of
the
staff
report
and
remarks
of
Miss
McNeese
this
evening,
you
know
very
thoroughly
explains
what
the
request
is.
J
I
would
note
the
staff
is
recommending
approval,
because,
in
their
view,
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
your
comprehensive
plan,
and
we
meet
the
other
relevant
criteria
that
we
need
to
meet
to
justify
and
approval
I
have
two
witnesses
to
present
to
you
this
evening.
The
first
witness
I
have
is
mr.
rusty
Cohen,
who
is
from
cross
development
and
he's
going
to
explain
some
of
the
background
behind
this
request.
K
Okay,
as
mr.
Armstrong
said,
we're
currently
under
contract
to
purchase
the
property,
we
represent,
caliber
collision,
auto
body
shop
there
of
a
national
auto
body
center,
just
merged
with
a
company
called
abre,
auto
glass
for
the
first
of
the
year.
It
took
them
over.
A
thousand
stores.
I've
got
a
little
overview
of
where
they're
at
they're,
located
in
37
states,
again
just
over
a
thousand
stores
over
18,000
employees
at
their
locations.
K
Kind
of
their
their
motto-
and
you
know
they
know
they
get
their
customers
kind
of
on
a
bad
day
when
they've
maybe
had
a
had
an
accident,
and
you
know
kind
of
disrupted
your
life,
so
their
motto
is
restoring
the
the
rhythm
of
your
life.
You
know
again,
their
goal
is
to
repair
your
vehicle.
I,
get
it
back
to
you
as
quick
as
we
can,
and
then
there
you
can
see
some
of
their
core
values
that
they
have.
They
do
have
a
lot
of
spin,
a
lot
on
training
with
their
employees.
K
K
K
K
K
Again,
this
is
just
another
aspect
to
some
of
their
community
involvement.
As
far
as
sat
plan
you
can
see
where
most
of
our
building
is
about.
Sixteen
thousand
square
foot
building
is
kind
of
shop
space
there,
the
front
two
thousand
square
foot
of
that
will
be
office.
You
know,
estimate
riding
that
top
thing.
Customer.
K
Yeah
again,
this
back
piece
right
here,
we'll
all
be
screened
off
sliding
gates,
our
employees
and
that's
where
we'll
have
cars
back
there
again
as
we're
moving
them
around
awaiting
repair
we're
waiting
parts
customer
parking
here
in
the
front,
the
only
thing
that
is
outside
that
building,
we
have
a
kind
of
a
detail:
Bay
it
will
be
covered
by
the
building,
just
be
open
on
the
sides.
There's
a
we'll
wash
down
cars
before
we
bring
them
right.
I
K
To
the
front,
but
everything
else
will
be
inside
I've
got
a
floor
plan
time
to
show
you
what
goes
on.
There's
example,
with
kind
of
a
colored
side
plan,
with
the
landscaping
that
we'll
be
providing
in
this
slide,
I
think
was
one
that
we
just
passed
out.
You
can
see
kind
of
where
we
align
to
the
neighborhood
and
they're
a
pond.
That's
there
I
want
to
say
the
closest
house
here
is
268
feet
away
from
the
corner
of
the
building.
There.
K
K
K
K
A
K
K
This
is
just
a
little
bit
kind
of
showing
you
about
the
paint
booth
itself
and
things
kind
of
have
changed
over
the
past
15
years.
I
would
say
in
the
in
the
paint
booth
world
where
again
it's
all
enclosed
most
of
the
requirements
have
you
get
98%
of
the
particulates
out
of
the
air
which
we
meet
and
then
you
know
our
filters
are
changed
regularly.
Actually,
it's
all
computerized.
K
K
F
K
C
K
Typically,
have
an
air
conditioned
system?
I
would
need
to
check
the
lease
on
this
particular
project.
As
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
times
down
here
in
Florida,
we
do
put
them
in
again.
It's
a
it's
a
help
for
us
from
a
hiring
standpoint,
but
you
know
they
will
probably
have
the
doors
open,
some
but
again,
I
think
it
will
be
air
conditioned.
So
if
that
is
the
case,
they
would
probably
not
have
them
open.
As
mines
have
enclosed
there
will
there
will
be
air
conditioned
on
the
office
piece
as
well
right.
K
F
I
can
help
answer
that
juice.
So
we
are
at
a
stage
of
preliminary
plan
development
approval,
rezoning
and
land
use.
They
will
need
the
countywide
amendment
when
that's
all
done.
They
come
back
for
a
site
plan,
sub,
subdivision
and
final
plan
development.
It's
like
they're
doing
a
new
plan
development
when
you
revise
a
plan
development
that
much
yep
basically
go
through
the
process
again,
so
those
kind
of
items
we
wouldn't
require
that
that
much
specifics,
our
storm
of,
for
example,
on
storm
water.
D
K
To
answer
the
stormwater
question
as
well,
when
this
property
was
built
in
2007,
they
built
bats
and
wetlands
down
the
bottom
and
built
their
pond,
which
we're
tying
into
just
as
the
same
number
of
square
footage
that
they
had
approved.
So
we're
going
through
that
permitting
process
now
with
the
Water
Management
District.
But
they
put
it
in
again.
They
put
in
a
lot
of
the
water
and
some
of
the
sewer
and
then
that
pond
as
well.
K
A
K
A
J
Thank
you.
My
second
witness
is
Scott
standard.
He
is
a
professional
engineer.
You're
in
Florida
he's
been
very
involved
in
a
site.
Design
I
want
to
ask
him
to
walk
you
through
how
the
site
functions
and
some
of
the
measures
were
tracking
an
attempt
to
minimize
impacts,
neighboring
properties,
okay,.
J
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
Scott
standard,
as
was
just
mentioned:
I
am
with
commercial
site
solutions.
We
are
at
2
1,
764,
State,
Road
54
in
lutz
florida,
and
we
have
been
retained
by
cross
development
to
be
the
civil
engineers
for
this,
between
the
staff
presentation
and
what
mr.
armstrong
presented
and
and
what
mr.
cohen
presented.
I
won't
rehash
a
lot
of
the
just
overall,
but
I
will
get
to
some
of
the
technical
I'll
answer.
L
Your
question
about
the
DEP
and
and
the
audience's
question
about
the
pond
or
ponds
actually
there's
two
of
them
out
there,
but
we'll
get
to
that
in
just
a
moment.
So,
from
an
engineering
standpoint,
site
planning
standpoint,
a
couple
of
highlights:
I
wanted
to
hit
on
and
then
I'm
more
than
willing
to
take
any
questions
we
have
from
the
audience
or
from
staff.
On
these.
L
It's
going
hit
on
the
fact
that
the
paint
scrubbers
are
designed
to
meet
all
of
the
federal
requirements
of
the
EPA
for
scrubbing.
It's
98%
particulate
matter,
removal
which
also
removes
the
odor
as
well
I
know,
that's
been
a
concern
for
other
various
residents
and
their
scrubbers
actually
exceed
the
EPA
by
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
site
plan
itself,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
up
there
and
then
the
little
handout
that
you
have
the
building
is
going
to
sit
believe
it's
83
feet.
L
L
Cohen
alluded
to
where
they
wash
the
cars
once
they've
been
completed,
is
85
feet
from
the
rear
property
line,
and
it's
268
feet
point
to
point
closest
point
that
we
could
find
for
any
existing
home
on
the
other
side
of
that
retention
pond
in
their
neighborhood,
to
where
the
closest
point
of
the
of
the
caliber
collision
will
be
to
give
some
screening
and
buffering.
In
addition,
there's
an
existing
8
foot
screen
wall
along
the
Eastern
property
line
that
was
built
as
a
part
of
the
overall
master
plan.
L
Development
way
back
when
adding
to
that
is
we're,
gonna
be
coming
back
in
with
additional
landscaping
right
now,
there's
not
it's
it's
a
case
really
where
the
developers
back
then
did
as
little
as
they
could,
because
the
economy
was
collapsing,
and
so
they
built
the
infrastructure
they
had
to
build
by
code
and
then
basically
pulled
out.
So
now
that
things
have
picked
back
up
the
landscaping
that
would
have
been
there
had
it
been
developed
at
that
time
we
are
actually
going
to
put
in
now
on
our
part
of
the
site.
L
So
you
have
the
8
foot
screen.
While
you
have
the
additional
landscaping
with
the
trees
and
shrubbery
and
then
again,
caliber
collision
installs
their
own
perimeter
screening
around
their
site,
in
particular
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
A
to
screen
the
operation
in
general
from
the
public
number
two
is
for
security
reasons
you
you
know.
If
you've
got
a
car,
that's
damaged
and
it's
just
sitting
there,
somebody
could
walk
by
and
steal
something
out
of
us.
They
have
to
keep
those
secured
and
separated
by
themselves.
I
got
a
moth
flying
around
I.
L
L
As
was
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
two
trips
over:
it's
53,
the
de
minimis
impacts
51,
so
we're
two
over
on
that,
which
is
why
we
did
the
transportation
management
plan,
but
it
would
bring
to
light
the
fact
that
had
this
been
or
is
this
being
built
as
a
commercial
development
which
was
originally
approved
to
be
the
impacts
for
this
particular
use,
are
actually
much
lower
in
terms
of
trip
generation
and
you
that
in
your
packet
they're,
the
access
points
are
all
existing
on
us
19.
You
have
the
one
that
leads
down
to
the
Northern
Tool.
L
You
have
the
additional
one
there,
where
the
turn
lane
is
that
the
Calabro
will
be
tying
into.
There
are
no
other
planned
access
points.
Those
will
remain,
as
is
calibre
we'll
build.
It
it'll
be
a
shared
driveway
and
if
other
users
come
in
in
the
future,
then
they
too
would
use
that
shared
driveway.
The
stormwater
question
that
came
up
not
to
correct
mr.
Cohen
in
front
of
the
public,
but
I
will,
and
that
is
that
the
pond
that
used
the
area-
it's
actually
a
wetland
that
you
see
where
the
trees
are
right.
L
L
We
all
know
in
Florida
there's
really
no
such
thing
as
a
truck
pond
they're
wet
a
good
bit
of
the
time,
but
that
detention
pond
was
actually
sized
for
the
full
build-out
condition
of
this
nine
acre
PD
and
what
that
means
is
and
kind
of
an
answer
to
the
question
about
the
DEP.
The
DEP
regulates
the
state
in
the
water
management
districts
probably
tell
any
stuff,
you
already
know,
but
here
in
this
area
in
Pinellas
County
were
really
regulated
by
the
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District.
L
Under
the
DEP
regulations,
the
pond
was
permitted
through
Southwest
Florida,
Water
Management
District
again,
for
excuse
me
for
the
full
build-out
condition
of
that.
The
only
thing
that's
tied
into
it
right
now
is
the
Northern
Tool.
Everything
else
you
know,
obviously
has
not
been
developed.
There's
an
existing
storm
drain
system
that
leads
from
the
Northern
Tool
right
down
through
the
center
of
the
site
and
and
dumps
into
that
pond.
L
The
grass
area
there
that
you
see
just
around
the
wetland
when
they
decides
when
they
did
the
sizing
for
that
pond,
essentially
what
they
did
the
original
engineers
as
they
assumed
an
impervious
condition.
So
they
didn't
know
what
all
is
going
to
come,
but
they
knew
something
was
coming,
so
they
made
their
best
guess
assumed
in
a
pervious
condition,
got
the
pond
size
for
that
constructed
for
that
certified.
L
We
give
them
our
proposed
impervious
areas
which
I
point
out
we're
proposing
a
point:
seven,
a
70%
ratio,
maximum
impervious
that's
actually
lower
than
the
land
development
use,
allows,
but
an
effort
to
reduce
our
runoff
a
little
bit
lower
than
what
Kraus
typically
goes
with
in
terms
of
overall
parking,
but
to
fit
on
the
site
to
have
something
we
felt
could
fit
in
the
community.
We
reduce
that
a
little
bit
well,
we'll
go
in
for
the
minor
mod,
we'll
give
them
the
the
impervious
area
we'll
give
them.
L
Our
total
runoff
we'll
show
that
we're
within
compliance
of
what
was
previously
permitted
and
then
hopefully,
the
state
reviews
that
and
comes
back
and
says.
Yes,
you
are
in
compliance
with
what
was
previously
approved.
They'll
issue
us
the
minor
modification
approval
I
provide
that
to
staff
once
we
make
final
or
actual
construction
plan
approval,
assuming
we
can
get
through
this
process.
So
that's
the
environmental
side
of
things
in
terms
of
landscaping
and
buffer,
so
I'm
a
landscape
architect.
Here
with
me,
as
I
did
say.
L
I
have
the
traffic
engineer
here
to
answer
any
questions
about
traffic.
A
couple
of
other
things,
I
was
going
to
point
out
on
a
rusty.
Cohen
did
a
pretty
good
job
on
that.
Already
all
of
the
work
that's
performed
on
these
vehicles
is
performed
inside
of
the
building.
There's
no
work
perform
outside.
We
had
a
question
about
sound
and
the
doors
are
open
and
closed
as
the
cars
are
being
moved
in
and
out.
So
they
are
open
some
time
that
you
know.
We
can't
pretend
that
they're
not
so
there
will
be
some
sound.
L
It's
not
much.
We
try
to
mitigate
that
as
much
as
we
can
with
a
screening
around
the
site
and
landscaping
as
well.
The
odor
in
particular
matter
is
taken
care
of
by
the
scrubber
system.
The
lighting
I
know
was
a
question
that
had
come
up.
It's
very
actually
low-level
lining
and
if
I
can
ask
what
the
hours
of
operation
are.
K
L
Reason
I
bring
that
up
is
the
lights
that
are
going
to
be
on
during
the
night
are
simply
for
security.
It's
actually
fairly
low-level.
We
have
cut
out
what
I
call
cut
off
fixtures,
which
would
basically
like
fixtures
which
shields
on
the
back
to
prevent
glare
from
leaving
the
site,
and
we
we
meet
actually
exceed
the
requirements
for
the
photometric
design.
For
that
lighting
to
reduce
our
footprint,
our
foot-candle
footprint
to
basically
zero
at
the
property
lines.
Again,
you
know
a
light.
Is
light
you're
going
to
see
it?
L
You
can't
hide
it
completely,
but
we
do
everything
we
can
to
shield
it
make
sure
it
doesn't
have
an
effect
of
glare
on
the
neighbors.
It
works
out.
Well,
this
particular
location
that
we're
on
the
backside
of
that
pond
for
the
adjoining
piece
of
property,
which
helped
give
us
again
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
I,
know
I'm,
forgetting
something
I
always
do,
but
I
think
I've
hit
on.
All
of
them
have.
A
L
A
L
A
E
A
M
K
M
M
L
In
terms
of
the
what
we're
putting
in
for
the
stormwater,
the
collection
of
the
stormwater,
the
as
you
can
see
on
the
site
there
right
now,
as
he's
describing
the
the
water
from
the
grass
area,
the
Northern
Tool,
we'll
stick
with
the
grass
here,
the
water
from
the
grass
area,
basically
drains
by
gravity
through
the
grass,
some
of
it
up
against
that
wall.
There
I
would
question
if
the
wall
failed,
which
storm
event
did
it
fail
in?
Was
it
during
one
of
hurricanes?
Was
it
during
a
regular
storm
event?
L
I,
don't
know,
but
in
terms
of
our
runoff,
for
what
we're
doing
everything's
collected
in
a
storm
drain
system
and
catch
basins
on
site,
curb
and
gutter
as
well.
Although
that's
then
picked
up
and
piped
directly
to
the
pond,
so
in
terms
of
the
caliber
collision,
there
will
be
no
runoff
from
our
site
running
towards
the
wall.
Everything
actually
would
run
away
from
that.
Thank
you.
A
M
M
G
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
pond,
and
the
runoff
was
certainly
one
of
one
of
my
main
concerns.
I'm
I
have
guest
a
question
for
the
folks
up
here
and
also
for
the
folks
coming
in,
with
with
calibre
collision
are
first
of
all,
you
folks
aware,
what's
going
on
with
Pasco
County
and
the
stormwater
problem,
they
have
up
there.
G
Your
diagram
up
there
on
the
far
right
where
the
white
starts,
there's
a
row
of
houses
right
on
the
edge
of
your
picture
there.
The
other
side
of
that
is
a
20-foot
easement
of
that
is
presently
being
torn
up
to
replace
a
24
or
24
inch
storm
water
pipe
with
a
five-foot
48
48
inches.
Excuse
me,
48
inch
pipe
they're
supposed
to
relieve
flooding
in
Pasco
County
that
storm
water
pipe
is
going
to
dump
into
the
Natural
Preserve
area
there
that
that
pond
borders
on
or
is
a
part
of,
and.
G
When
Pasco
flooding
problem
comes
flowing
down
through
the
River
Watch
subdivision
into
that
Natural
Preserve,
we
are
concerned
about
the
water
runoff
that
presently
goes
into
the
ground
from
the
rain.
That
is
now
going
to
be
hitting
hard
surfaces,
parking
lot
and
everything,
and
then
dumping
in
the
question
is.
Have
you
considered
that
and
the
answer
is.
L
There's
actually
two
parts
to
that
in
terms
of
what's
being
considered
in
terms
of
the
improvements
for
Pasco
County
and
what
may
be
coming
down
that
easement
into
that
existing
wetland
area,
though
that
modeling
that
would
be
done
by
the
engineers
for
Pasco
County
would
take
into
account
anything.
That's
adjacent
around
I
know,
because
I
have
to
do
that
as
well
in
terms
of
how
it
would
impact
our
particular
develop
site.
The
the
statement
that
everything
absorbs
into
the
ground
today
simply
isn't
true.
L
This
site
was
designed
to
drain
to
that
pond
on
the
south
side
next
to
the
wetland,
and
it
was
designed
to
do
so
in
a
developed
condition.
I
have
to
continue
to
point
that
out,
because
I
think
it's
important.
This
has
been
permitted
by
Swift
mud
or
a
fully
built
out
condition
where
one
part
of
that
and
we
collect
our
runoff,
and
we
put
it
into
that.
Stormwater
system
we
do
take
into
account
tell
what
are
called
tail
water
conditions
which
are
downstream
conditions.
I
get
those
from
the
county
engineering
office
to.
L
G
Noted
the
concern
that
we
in
the
neighborhood
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
when
they
finish
that
storm
drain
system
from
Pasco
County
they've
had
some
terrible
flooding
up
there
out
of
the
Anclote
River
farther
north
of
us.
Sir,
do
you
have
another
question,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
statement.
One
other
question
about
the
traffic
plan
I
noticed
in
the
traffic
study
that
they
had
they
were
over
by
two
items.
G
So
the
question
is
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
amongst
us
about
public
transportation,
people
riding
bikes
and
stuff
coming
to
work,
and
we
just
will
I,
don't
say:
I
was
puzzled
by
that.
Can
you
explain
why
that
would
bill
in
or
most
of
the
employees
that
are
gonna
be
working
at
Callan
collision,
I
looked
at
the
salary
things
and
most
of
those
people
can
afford
cars
and
I
just
was
concerned
about
that,
because
the
traffic
on
19,
especially
rush
hour
in
the
evening,
is
it's
just
horrible.
G
L
In
terms
of
the
traffic,
a
couple
of
things
number
one
and
then
I
do
have
my
key
eight.
So
I'll
pull
him
up
in
just
a
moment
because
he
actually
prepared
the
study,
but
in
terms
of
pedestrians
and
bikes
and
so
forth.
We're
required
to
do
that
as
a
part
of
the
transportation
plan.
So
we're
not
given
a
choice
on
that,
but
secondly,
what
I
also
would
put
out
or
point
out
that's
in
that
packet.
There
is
as
approved
with
the
original
PD.
L
We
had
a
total
number
of
peak
hour
trips
of
508
and
the
PM
peak.
That's
what
could
be
built
there
today
if
it
was
all
commercial
without
coming
back
before
this
board.
What
we've
seen
built
with
the
northern
tools
25,000
square
feet,
there's
a
hundred
and
forty
total
PM
peak
hour
trips
estimated,
but
that
the
northern
tool
that
leaves
a
net
available
if
you
will
a
363
from
what
was
originally
approved
in
total
in
peak
hour
trips
of
that
363.
This
caliber
is
53.
L
So
I
point
that
out
to
show
that
if
this
were
a
resident
or
excuse
me
a
commercial
development
which
again
has
already
allowed
by
the
zoning,
that's
there,
it
would
be
much
higher.
What
we're
saying
is
53
and
when
I
point
out
that
there
were
two
over
that's
two
over
what's
considered
de
minimis,
which
would
mean
no
traffic
impact
analysis
is
required,
but
if
I
can,
if
I
may,
if
you
okay,
if
there's
any
other
questions
we'll
see
if
we
need
the
traffic
guy,
if
not.
G
G
L
A
K
It's
separate
from
the
building
itself
as
it's
a
again
a
complete.
It's
a
complete
different
structure.
Again,
the
building
itself
will
be
sprinkled.
The
paint
booth
will
have
a
separate
sprinkler
system
in
it
due
to
again
the
paint
that's
in
there
and
things
like
that,
but
that
is
built
by
a
separate
vendor,
not
necessarily
our
once
we
get
the
building
built.
Our
vendor
will
come
in
permit
that
and
build
that
paint
bit
and.
K
N
E
E
O
A
property
owner
in
Tarpon
Springs
for
12
years,
the
last
four
of
which
are
River
watch
I'm
at
nineteen,
forty,
nine
and
quote
Vista.
Most
of
my
I'd
like
to
just
have
a
show
of
hands
of
residents
of
River
Watch,
who
are
here
with
serious
concerns
about
this
project.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
tonight
and
for
signing
petitions
and
petitioning
your
neighbors
to
help.
Most
of
my
concerns
were
addressed
by
either
the
presentations
from
cross
and
the
engineer
and
the
questions
from
my
residents.
O
Basically,
we
are
just
lay
people.
We
do
not
understand
how
a
lot
of
this
works
and
please
be
patient
with
us,
because
these
are
our
investments.
They're
large
investments
made
our
major
investments
are
in
our
homes
and
the
reason
we
bought
in
this
particular
development
is
because
it
is
a
quiet,
secluded
neighborhood,
near
amenities-
and
this
is
what
we're
concerned
about-
is
losing
that
quiet,
neighborhood.
O
The
main
issues
as
were
addressed
were
the
traffic,
the
air
and
water
control,
pollution
control,
the
noise
and
the
lighting,
and
most
of
these
were
addressed
by
you.
However,
I
understand
that
you
are
a
large
company
and
you
do
have
now
over
a
thousand
locations,
but
our
concern
is:
why
did
the
is
this?
This
particular
building
have
to
be
in
this
location.
Most
of
your
buildings
are
already
in
a
location
which
is
zoned
industrial
industrial
parks.
O
Community
concerns
excuse
me
company
and
that,
as
such,
that
you
should
be
very
concerned
about
the
opinions
and
concerns
of
your
neighbors.
Your
nearest
neighbors,
your
butters
witches
River
watch
I
would
appreciate
that
the
board
would
consider
more
pardon
me
I'm.
Sorry
consider
that
the
neighborhood,
our
neighborhood
would
be
impacted
and
what
we
invested
in
what
we
bought
in
we
will
not
have
if
this
project
is
allowed
to
go
through.
We
are
not
opposed
to
anyone
making
a
living.
M
So
again,
my
name
is
Peter
Connor
12:37
black
arrived
a
couple
concerns
I,
have
one
again
goes
back
to
the
traffic
and
I
get
the
numbers
and
I
get
all
that.
The
problem
that
we
have
is
that,
since
we
have
a
turn
lane
coming
towards
our
property,
we
have
a
lot
of
vehicles
that
be
able
to
recognize
that
and
then
pull
through
and
go
into
turn
lane
that
goes
into
that
property
problem.
M
M
I'm
concerned
for
accidents
out
there,
the
traffic
study
that
was
done
a
while
back
they
put
in
I,
don't
we
call
them
that
these
Linea
Nader's
I
think
they're
called
in
the
road
to
keep
traffic
through
they
kept
getting
run
over
and
destroyed,
so
the
Department
of
Transportation
added
fewer
and
a
different
style
to
hopefully
not
have
to
replace
those
all
the
time.
It's
because
of
all
traffic
that
we
endure
out
there,
starting
at
2:30
in
the
afternoon,
going
home
traffic.
It's
horrendous
till
about
7:30
at
night.
M
Again
that
pond
that
sits
behind
them.
That
wall
was
a
huge
problem
for
us
before
you
know
what
a
community
spend
another
$130,000
or
so
to
replace
that
wall
yeah,
because
nobody
went
on
up
to
it.
There's
a
proof
by
tarpon
springs
to
add
to
the
wall
without
doing
any
further
studies
to
see
if
the
foundation
could
handle
it
okay
collapse
and
then
nobody
would
speak
up
and
say,
yeah,
that's
our
problem!
No,
we
take
forth
as
a
community.
The
other
issue
is
and
I
don't
know
what
the
storm
water
project
is
going
to
cause.
M
None
of
us
have
an
idea.
We,
when
it
rains
really
hard.
We
start
to
have
flooding
coming
into
our
community
going
across
a
little
bridge.
We
have
in
there
how
much
that
will
get
in
fact
that
we
don't
know
adding
more
water.
Potentially
you
know
can
actually
make
it
worse.
So
how
did
we
get
in
and
out
of
our
community
if
it's
on
the
water?
M
E
P
P
Palm
trees
are
going
up
with
transformed
things
really
starting
to
shape
up
and
beautification
is
taking
place
and
I.
Look
to
my
left
and
I
see
cardio
ships,
I,
look
to
my
bright
I,
see
car
dealerships,
I
Drive
down
the
street
I
see
car
dealerships
everywhere.
You
turn
on
19,
it's
turning
into
a
car
facilitated
top
of
an
organization,
and
it's
overwhelming,
and
it's
the
point
now
I
say
to
myself:
do
we
really?
You
know
obviously
there's
a
reputation
here
which
is
good?
P
The
studies
for
engineering
look
good
but
again
I'm
thinking
it
from
the
standpoint
of
those
19
really
need
another
car
oriented
business,
and
you
know
if
it
was
a
a
restaurant
or
an
ice-cream
stand.
I'd,
probably
I
wouldn't
be
up
here,
but
given
the
fact
we're
talking
about
something
it's
car
oriented
in
Furman,
it's
just
taking
over
that
whole
corner.
When
you
pull
out
the
ford
dealership
on
the
left,
go
down,
you
got
all
the
cards,
I
mean
everywhere.
You
turn
there's
something
to
do
with
cars.
P
It's
just
in
a
mile
radius
of
there's
been
any
started,
there's
probably
50
car.
Our
only
ended
businesses.
That's
one
of
my
concerns.
The
other
thing
too,
is
the
impact
on
a
company.
I'll,
say
a
company
organization.
That's
been
a
part
of
this
community
I'm
going
to
cut
Furman
itself
has
been
around
here
since
1995
they're,
very
active
in
the
community.
The
impact
of
this
you
know
global
company
is
going
to
have
on
their
business.
I'm
surprised
that
somebody
didn't
come
tonight
from
their
organization.
P
They
probably
don't
feel
threatened,
but
again
here's
a
stellar
organization
that
I
viewed
one
to
their
website.
You
looked
at
how
they've
been
involved
in
the
community
over
the
years
there
they've
done
amazing
things
in
Tampa
and
tarpon
springs
the
impact
that
will
have
on
them.
So
I'm
not
really
up
here
to
talk
about
civil
engineering
or
up
here
to
talk
about
the
company,
because
obviously
they've
got
a
good
reputation,
just
a
concern
about
more
car
oriented
business
and
the
impact
it's
going
to
have
on
business
across
the
street.
I
E
I
Commercially
zoned
piece
of
property
and
leaving
two
commercial
sections
that
would
leave
it
open
to
a
change
to
the
light
industrial
and
that
then
these
other,
which
I
would
think,
would
be
a
good
stand,
a
good
chance
to
get
change
to
an
industrial
category
and
then
the
property
may
be
open
for
any
kind
of
light.
Industrial
usage,
so
I'm
concerned
in
that
regard,.
I
A
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention
this
evening.
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
address
some
of
the
comments
made
by
the
public,
we're
here
this
evening
in
no
particular
order.
Mr.
Conrad
was
asking
about,
but
you
know,
I
call
it
the
potential
for
precedent
and
I
think
I
response
to
that
goes
to
the
specificity
of
our
request.
With
respect
to
the
IPD
zoning,
that's
a
site
plan,
specific
zoning
classification.
J
You
know
exactly
what
you're
getting
when
you
approve
a
site
plan
as
part
of
this
application,
if
it
changes
in
a
material
way,
it
comes
back
through
this
process.
Doctor
planning
a
zoning
back
to
the
Commission,
and
maybe
it
gets
approved,
and
maybe
it
doesn't
that's
the
risk
that
the
owner
applicant
would
take
if
he
chooses
to
modify
the
site
plan,
so
I
think
it
really
goes
to.
It
depends
on
what
the
next
applications
look
like
and
how
what
are
they
doing
to
minimize
impacts
and
buffer
and
and
those
sorts
of
things?
J
What's
the
nature
of
the
use?
I
think
it
goes
to
to
those
sorts
of
questions.
I
guess
it
was
mr..
Will
ski
I
apologize
if
I
mispronounce
your
name?
Had
a
question
about
the
Furman
company
they've
been
a
significant
client
of
our
law
firm
for
30
years
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
their
work
and
I
can
feel
comfortable,
saying
that
they're
not
threatened
by
the
possibility
of
approval
of
a
collision
center.
J
You
look
at
the
steps
are
being
taken
here
in
our
discussions
with
the
staff
before
we
filed.
They
made
it
really
clear
that
priority
was
to
have
appropriate
buffering
here
and
we
think
we've
done
that.
There's
a
wall,
there's
landscaping
limited
hours
of
operation
everything's
done
inside
this
is
on
us
19.
Folks,
that's
a
pretty
intense
traffic
corridor.
J
We
feel
like
we've
beaten
traffic
to
death,
but
I
just
want
to
make
the
following
point
again
that,
as
the
staff
report
noted,
the
actual
impacts
of
proving
this
use
on
this
site
would
dramatically
reduce
the
traffic
that
was
previously
approved.
So
if
you,
you
know
improve
the
traffic
situation
you
approved
to
use,
if
that's
your
sole
criterion,
that
seems
to
be
beyond
dispute
again,
as
was
noted
in
the
staff
report,
we're
only
two
trips
above
being
de
minimis.
In
the
PM
peak
hour-
and
we
think
that's
important.
J
Stormwater,
a
lot
of
discussion
about
stormwater
from
being
on
the
governing
board,
a
sauce
with
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District
I
can
assure
you
that
the
stormwater
impacts
don't
get
approved
if
they're
going
to
go
off
site.
In
other
words,
you
have
to
control
it
on
your
site
and
appropriately
so
occasionally,
you'll
see
drainage,
easements
to
a
master
pond.
Like
you
see
here,
but
with
the
current
regulatory
structure,
you
can't
just
spill.
F
J
That
will
not
happen,
so
that's
your
comfort
level
there,
you
should
I
would
hope,
be
the
comfort
level
for
the
neighborhood
as
well.
In
some,
we
believe
we
meet
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies,
your
comprehensive
plan.
We
believe
that
we
have
presented
to
you
a
site
plan
and
a
zoning
application
consistent
with
being
sensitive
and
doing
the
right
thing,
and
we
are
worthy
of
your
approval.
I
will
note
that
the
staff
recommendation
this
evening
is
approval
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
I
think,
though,
it
is
very
common
in
my
practice
to
see
developers
go
through
this
process
first,
because
unless
we
get
the
use
approved,
we're
wasting
our
time
and
money
and
energy
for
everybody
involved
in
the
process,
and
that
tends
to
be
a
very
lengthy,
expensive
process.
So
we
want
to
first
we've
got
the
use
approved
by
local
governments.
It
would
be
a
condition
of
approval,
obviously
that
before
anything
can
actually
get
built
and
a
building
permit
is
issued
that
we
would
have
to
have
those
in
our
hand
before
construction
would
ever
begin.
J
D
J
Think
that
the
Apple
case
you
would
fail
if
we
can't
come
up
with
an
approval,
perhaps
that
you
know
results
in
a
modified
application.
I
don't
know
I've
yeah,
it's
very
rare,
that
a
permit
application
will
fail
because
there's
almost
always
an
engineering
solution
to
it,
but
sometimes
the
engineering
solutions
are
too
costly.
A
It's
an
interesting
and
certainly
understandable,
concern
of
everyone,
but
I
have
a
comment
about
it.
I
mean
this
is
us
19
and
that
property's
been
empty
for
commercial
or
years,
probably
even
before.
A
lot
of
these
houses
were
built
back
here
and
if
a
Burger,
King
or
BJ's
or
a
Costco
were
to
go
in
there,
the
traffic
would
be
incredibly
lorentz
and
if
the
Burger
King
was
in
there,
it
would
be
till
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Sometimes
you'd
have
traffic.
So
that's
just
the
comment
for
me.
A
D
Have
a
comment
to
your
point,
sir:
if
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
if
you
have
such
a
high
degree
of
confidence
with
passing
these
environmental
issues,
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
waiting.
You
know
until
you
know,
applying
coming
back,
I
would
feel
perfectly
fine.
You
know
issuing
a
decision
that
I'm
more
I
would
like
decided
with
caution,
but
that's
just
my
company.
If
there's
a
high
degree
of
confidence
well,.
A
Again,
the
the
issue
as
as
he
stated,
is
the
fact
that
you
can't
proceed.
If
you
don't
know
that
you
can
even
put
a
building
on
this,
though
you
kind
of
have
to
go
through
the
process,
and
we
here
our
goal
tonight
is
just
to
say:
is
this
gonna
be
Brees
owned
or
not
it's
not?
He
still
has
to
go
through
all
these
other
regulatory
issues.
They
could
be
denied
in
almost
any
other,
any
other
forum
that
the
commissioners
could
deny
it.
A
D
F
E
A
D
F
Particular
property
I'm
not
aware
of
any
any
rezoning
application.
Since
the
CPD
was
passed
and
to
kind
of
answer
the
bigger
picture.
This
will
have
to
come
back
through
for
final
planned
development.
That's
when
more
detail
will
be
required,
including
you
know,
will
they
have
their
environmental
approval,
prove
all
storm?
F
So
typically
an
applicant
wants
to
know
you
know,
can
I
get
my
land
use
and
Zoning
and
in
this
case
countywide
lined
up.
If
the
plan
development
doesn't
meet
the
regulations,
it
cannot
cannot
be
approved
or
would
not
be
recommended
for
approval
and,
as
the
applicant
stated
planned
about
IPD
CPD,
those
are
almost
like
a
master
plan
type
of
a
zoning.
So
it's
for
specific
use.
A
E
A
J
J
That's
exactly
what
they're
doing
and
very
respectfully
this
application
is
properly
before
the
board,
and
we
think
that
we're
entitled
to
an
answer
tonight
and
we
think
that
you
should
you
your
did
your
choices
about
yes
or
vote
no
and
I'm
very
respectful
of
that,
but
please
be
respectful.
We
believe
of
our
right
to
have
a
decision
from
this
board
that
you
have
passed
along
the
City
Commission.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.