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So
mike,
do
you
see
you
see
our
friend
mike
driss,
often.
A
You
yeah,
I
have
dinner
with
him
every
once
a
while,
because
he's
peter's
godfather
so
we
meet.
You
know
every
well,
maybe
once
a
month
sometimes
twice
just
for
dinner.
A
E
E
E
F
F
G
A
F
Okay,
we'll
just
do
a
voice
vote
on
that
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes.
I
I
opposed
all
right
minutes
are
approved.
That
brings
us
to
item
number
three
application:
20-85
to
the
land
development
code
or
a
land
development
code
amendment.
It
would
be
ordinance
2020-22
amending
article
iv
by
adding
sections
5605.
J
We
do
I'll
jump
in
renee,
vincent
planning
and
zoning
director
for
the
city
of
tarpon
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
bear
with
me
a
little
fight
at.
J
J
J
And
not
sure
what
the
background
noise
is
there,
but
so
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles.
So
the
reason
that
we
are
bringing
this
forward
now
effective
july
1st
of
this
year
house,
bill
1193,
went
into
effect
and
within
that,
like
regulation,
the
state
basically
created
regulations
around
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicles
that
pretty
much
preempts
and
regulates
that
to
to
the
state
level.
Basically,
local
jurisdictions
have
been
preempted
from
all
regulation
involving
licenses
registration
permits
and
fees.
J
What
we
do
retain
the
ability
to
regulate
our
operations,
but
we
cannot
prohibit
them
from
operating
entirely
within
the
city,
so
kind
of
our
current
past
practice
of
regulation
around
these.
It's
just
customarily
been
known
that
you
know.
Mobile
food
trucks
are
prohibited
in
the
city
of
tarpon
springs.
J
Also
under
previous
interpretations
of
our
occupational
licensing,
which
we
now
too
refer
to
as
a
business
tax,
receipt
license,
mobile
food
vending
was
limited
to
peddlers
and
they
had
to
move
about
every
15
minutes.
So
you
know
those
two
things
in
combination
effectively
eliminated
the
use
within
the
city
pri
in
prior
interpretations.
J
We
we
felt
it
was
necessary
to
get
something
established
around
how
the
the
operations
of
mobile
food
vending
vehicles
so
we're
proposing
two
new
sections
under
the
special
use
section
of
the
land
development
code,
which
is
article
four,
the
first
would
be
56.05
establishing
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicles
as
temporary
uses
and
I'll
explain
that
in
in
detail
and
then
another
section
that
would
create
or
allow
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles
as
accessory
to
an
existing
food
or
drink
establishment.
J
So
when
we're
saying
temporary
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles,
temporary
these
would
be
food
trucks.
That
would,
you
know,
go
to
a
business.
You
know
I'll
use
the
lowe's
parking
lot
as
a
good
example
to
go
to
a
place
where
they
and
they
can
bend
during
the
day
between
the
hours
of
8
a.m
and
10
p.m.
Right
now,
we
we
are
proposing
that
that
would
be
limited
to
our
retail
sales
or
restaurants
are
permitted
in
an
applicable
zoning
district.
J
That
would
exclude
the
special
area
plan,
which
includes
the
sponge
docks
in
the
downtown
and
I'll
show
you
a
map
of
that
some
other
additional
regulations.
You
know
you
could
operate.
You
cannot
operate
from
public
rights
of
way
or
city-owned
property
or
parking
lots
again
unless
that's
in
conjunction
with
a
special
event.
The
the
figures
on
the
right.
This
would
be
what
we
would
envision.
You
can
vend
on
site
and
in
a
parking
area
or
parking
lot.
J
You
cannot,
you
know
you
would
not
be
able
to
vent
from
the
street
we're
trying
to
keep
these
things
from
operating
off
of
the
streets,
so
you
would
not
could
not
operate
from
public
rights
way
or
city
owned
property
or
parking
lots
again.
Unless
it's
a
special
exam,
we
propose
to
limit
that
to
one
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicle
per
parcel.
J
So
you
can't,
you
know,
stack
10
or
12
of
these
out
in
your
parking
lot
and
have
a
impromptu
food
court
and
when
not
in
operation,
they
have
to
be
stored
in
an
area
where
parking
of
on-site
or
storage
of
vehicles
is
a
permitted
use.
So
again
we
don't
want
these
things
being
permanently
parked
somewhere
and
they
just
show
up
operate
and
then
close
them
up
and
leave
them
where
they
are
and
then
you
must
dispose
of
all
waste
products
in
accordance
with
local
federal
and
state
regulations.
Again
we're
trying.
J
We
don't
want
these
being
dumped
irresponsibly
with
you
know
the
products
and
things
like
that
and
waste
materials.
So
we
tried
to
give
a
give
you
a
generalized
map
for
the
temporary
uses
where
these
would
be
allowed.
So
basically,
we
said
where
retail
sales
or
restaurants
are
permitted
use.
So
these
areas
that
are
in
this
reddish
pink
color
are
the
areas
where
you
would
be
allowed
to
operate
this
area
in
blue.
J
Here,
I'm
sorry,
I
could
point
over
here
the
right
one,
this
area
in
blue
this
is
the
sponge,
the
cra
special
area
plan
for
the
sponge
docks
in
the
downtown.
So
this
area
they
would
not
be
able
to
do
this
temporary,
daily
vending,
and
then
all
the
area
in
yellow
would
be
off
limits
because
those
are
not
business
districts,
so
this
is
temp.
This
is
this
is
a
fairly
good
depiction
of
where
you'd
be
allowed
to
operate,
and
you
see
there
are
some.
J
J
J
You
know
we
have
things
like
breweries
and
places
that
are
you
know,
establishments
that
really
you
know,
they're,
not
they're,
not
in
the
business
of
having
a
restaurant,
and
so
we've
set
this
up
so
that
to
really
address
a
couple
of
issues
in
some
instances
we
do
have
restaurants
that
that
do
have
a
food
truck
or
a
trailer
that
they
set
up
and
operate.
J
These
have
kind
of
been
largely
just
kind
of
gone
unnoticed
or
without
you
know,
without
regulation.
You
know
in
some
areas
you
know,
example
of
that
would
be
the
rusty
belly's
truck
they
operate
on
their
site.
So
what
this
is
proposing
is
that
if
you
have
an
existing
food
or
drink
establishment,
you
can
through
it
through
an
application
process
with
our
technical
review
committee,
you
can
get
approval
to
have
an
accessory
food
truck.
You
don't
have
to
own
it,
you
can.
J
You
can
contract
that
with
another
provider,
if
you
like,
but
the
the
the
technical
review
committee
would
review
a
site
plan
or
site
layout
for
the
you
know,
for
the
to
look
at
how
the
the
food
truck
would
operate,
the
operating
hours
would
be
limited
to
those
of
the
primary
use
or
the
business
you
would
have
to
identify
if
you're
requesting
city
services
like
water,
sewer,
solid
waste
pickup,
because
these
these
are
basically
envisioned
they're,
not
going
to
really
go
anywhere.
J
Probably
for
you
know,
they're
going
to
be
set
up
there
on
a
more
kind
of
semi-permanent
basis.
If
you
will,
you
would
have
to
demonstrate
compliance
with
the
city's
fat
soils
and
grace
management
program,
you
would
have
to
have
an
evacuation
or
mitigation
plan
in
the
event
of
a
you
know,
a
hurricane
or
a
wind,
storm
or
flooding
event.
Again,
we
don't
want
these
things,
you
know
being
washed
away
or
blown
away
in
an
event
like
that.
J
You
would
have
to
have
a
permanent
power
connection.
So
if
you
are
in
operation,
you're
running
on
electric
and
you're
not
or
a
generator
for
long
periods
of
time-
and
you
would
have
to
have
an
operating
agreement
for
the
use
of
the
sanitation
facilities,
restrooms
and
seating
of
the
primary
user
business
and
again,
that's
when
the
when
the
owner
of
the
food
truck
is
is
different
than
the
actual
business
where
it
might
be
operating.
J
You
know:
are
the
allowable
locations
correct
at
this
point,
you
know:
do
the?
Is
it
too
restrictive,
or
is
it
not
restrictive
enough?
You
know:
do
we
want
to
maybe
just
limit
that
to
the
u.s
19
corridor?
We
can
look
at
it
in
various
ways.
Hours
of
operation
may
be
a
discussion
point
right
now.
It's
proposed
between
8
and
10
8
a.m
and
10
p.m,
private
property
versus
public
streets
and
city-owned
property.
J
I'm
not
sure
there's
much
of
a
discussion
point
there,
but
again,
right
now,
you'll
be
prohibited
from
operating
on
public
streets
and
the
number
allowed
for
parcel
again
we're
recommending
only
one
would
be
allowed
on
a
given
parcel
of
land,
and
that
obviously,
is
in
conjunction
with
an
existing.
You
know
retail
type
of
establishment
discussion
points
regarding
those
that
would
be
accessory
to
a
food
or
drink
establishment,
again
allowable
locations.
J
Right
now
you
have
to
pair
up
with
an
existing
food
or
drink
establishment.
We
haven't
really
defined
that
we
probably
should,
and
then
you
know
some
of
the
finer
points,
the
things
that
we
see
so
does
that
mean
a
take
out?
You
know,
sandwich
shop
or
deli
would
qualify.
So
we
think
we
probably
need
to
further
define
that
a
little
bit
as
to
what
qualifies
and
should
there
be
a
minimum
seating
requirement
of
that
primary
use.
J
So
it
has
to
be
an
eating
or
drinking
establishment
that
perhaps
has
50
seats,
at
least
so
that
you
know
that
you
have
area
for
people
to
patrons
to
go
inside,
sit
down
and
eat,
which
is
what
this
is
intended
to.
You
know
to
to
serve
so
with
that.
J
I
will
stop
and
I'll
unshare
my
screen
if
I
can
find
the
thing
to
do
that
and
really
open
this
up
for
discussion
with
with
you
all
before
we
take
this
forward
to
the
board
of
commissioners,
we
did
have
karen
lemons,
our
economic
development
manager.
She
sent
this
out
pretty
comprehensively
to
the
business
community.
J
We
only
got
a
couple
of
responses.
So
far
generally
those
were
in
favor
and
just
really
looking
for
for
some
clarification.
I
think
pat
mcneese
emailed
those
out
to
you
a
bit
earlier
today,
so
with
that
I'll
stop
and
we
can
discuss
and
I'll
try
to
answer
questions
and
listen
to
where
we
may
have
missed,
or
what
we
can
do
to
make
this
better.
Thank
you.
F
One
question
about
the
the
number
of
units
per
parcel.
I
can
see
if
you
had
a
very
small
parcel.
Definitely
you
you
couldn't
accommodate
more
than
one,
but
in
the
event
that
we
had
a
larger
property
ownership
where
people
had
more
than
one
thing
going
on.
There
may
be
a
situation
where,
where
somebody
might
have
have
a
case
where
more
than
one
would
be
appropriate-
and
I
don't
know
how
you
really
address
that,
but.
J
That's
a
very
good
point.
We
were
trying
to
start
with
one
and
see
where
we
go
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
I
do
have
sub
comments.
Renee
small
rene,
welcome
back
you
it's
good
to
have
you
back
absolutely.
I
really
mean
that
my
here's
my
concern.
First
of
all,
I
l
with
the
with
the
the
the
map
that
you
provided.
A
I
like
the
idea
of
seeing
it
in
the
industrial
areas
where
there
are.
There
are
employees,
employers
and
and
businesses
who
employees
really
can't
leave
their.
You
know
the
place
to
to
right
to
go,
get
something
to
eat.
I
saw
that
on
the
long,
the
north
side
of
the
river
and
a
long
19
corridor,
which
I
think
is
a
proper,
proper
venue
for
it.
A
My
my
biggest
concern
is:
we
have
these
restaurants
at
the
border,
restaurants
and
and
and
nice
I
like,
where
you
excluded
the
sponge
doc
area,
but
when
you're
referenced
with
regard
to
like
a
an
establishment
that
could,
basically,
almost
quite
frankly,
quasi
permanent
restaurant
on
your
property
without
having
to
go
through
with
some
of
these
property
owners
that
pay,
you
know,
are
you
know,
taxes
and
stuff
like
that
that
have
established
a
brick
and
mortar
restaurants
that
they
go
through,
and
you
know
if
I
had
a
bare
mind
plate
and
invite
a
permanent.
A
You
know
meal
truck
on
my
property.
In
essence,
I've
created
a
restaurant
and
they
don't
have
to
go
near
nearly
through
what
a
restaurant
would
have
to
go
through
for
for
operating
and
the
cost
of
operating,
so
that
I
think
that's
fun
and
fair
to
those
people
with
that
to
have
the
sticky
restaurants.
J
No
fair,
fair
point:
you
know:
we've
been
wrestling
with
this
kind
of
back
and
forth.
Is
you
know?
What's
the
best
way
to
you
know
to
to
do
this?
I
mean
honestly,
one
approach
on
the
you
know
on
the
extreme
side
would
just
be
to
say
you
know
hey.
You
know
you
can
have
them
operating
in
in
that
temporary
situation
out
on
the
u.s
19
corridor
or
north
of
the
ankaloa
river
in
the
industrial
areas
and
call
it
a
day
and
not
allow
the
excessive
that
accessory
use.
J
If
you
will
that
we're
proposing
in
the
5605,
that's
you
know,
you
know
what
we
can't
do
is
just
prohibit
them
all
together,
so
that
that's
that's
kind
of
the
balance
that
we're
trying
trying
to
strike
we
did
hear
from
you
know.
I
mean
frankly,
a
lot
of
you
know
the
the
breweries
the
are
are
a
bit
of
a
driver
of
that
the
the
other
of
the
you
know
being
the
accessory
too.
J
They
don't
want
to
be
in
the
restaurant
business,
but
right
now,
they're
they're
effectively
shut
down
because
they
can't
they
don't
have
any
kind
of
food
service.
Under
this
covet
situation,
so
that
was
a
that
was
a
consideration
and
I
realized
that
you
know
that
this
that
could
all
be
temporary,
so
yeah,
I
I
I
understand
the
fear.
A
Yeah
and
renee-
and
I
understand
that
with
with
some
of
those
establishments,
but
I
know
some
of
the
working
relationships
with
restaurants
in
town
who
have
a
menu
they
deliver
to
the
restaurant.
I
if
there
was
something
on
a
an
emergency
or
because
of
the
cobit.
A
You
know
that
that
would
be
understandable,
but
I
just
I
just
don't
want
to
get
into
you
know,
and
I
represent
various
restaurants
in
in
tarpon
springs
sure,
so
so
not
to
be
conflicted
out.
But
I
do
and-
and
you
know
I
know
that
they
have
to
go
through
to
open
and
I
think
it's
just
fundamentally
unfair
that
somebody
could
put
a
permanent
mobile
food
truck
in
their
parking
lot
and
crew.
A
Basically
credit
quasi
restaurant,
and
so
I
like
the
idea
of
the
corridors
where
they're
at
by
the
way,
the
the
the
one
that
was
out,
I
think,
is
off
on
gulf
road
on
your
map.
Next,
to
the
that
little,
that
little
island
of
red,
that
is
that
by
the
station,
is
that
where
you're
recording.
J
D
F
It's
it's
fairly
loose
for
for
questions
to
the
staff
at
this.
D
I
I
I
have
a
few
questions.
Can
I
jump
in
absolutely
okay
and
thank
you
for
having
me
here
on
the
on
your
board
on
my
first
inaugural
meeting
and
and
miss
vincent?
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so
I
have
a
couple
qui
a
few
questions.
D
Do
these
do
these
vehicles
the
the
these
food
trucks,
do
they
have
to
meet
like
setback
requirements.
J
D
J
Correct
but
that's
a
good,
that's,
a
very
good
observation,
so
we
probably
should
at
least
you
know
acknowledge
that
you
know
compliance
with
you
know
with
whatever
the
zoning
setbacks
are,
so
that
someone
doesn't,
if
you
do,
have
a
right.
You
know
a
strip
there
between
the
parking
lot
and
the
road
that
they
don't
park.
It
they're
not
in
the
grass
area.
So
that's
a
good
observation.
We
should
probably
addre
go
ahead
and
add
something
to
that
effect.
D
J
That's
so
there's
the
rub:
under
the
new
legislation
we
are
preempted
and
I'll
defer
to
to
the
attorney,
but
basically
the
state
preempted,
the
regulation
for
anything
like
licenses
and
permits
and
fees
to
the
state.
So
the
only
thing
we
can
really
regulate
is
how
they
operate
and
where
they
operate.
As
long
as
we
don't
prohibit
them
entirely,.
D
Yeah
and
that
and
that's
where
I'm
I'm
in
agreement
with
mr
cuscudas,
you
know
on
these
these
kinds
of
things
having
so
little
regulation
compared
to
you
know
brick
and
mortar
restaurant
that
has
to
go
through.
You
know
a
lot
to
be
able
to
open,
and
then
that
leads
to
another
question,
appearance
and
and
and
size
are
there
any?
Are
we
going
to
how
do
we?
D
How
do
we
manage
the
appearance
of
these
things
because
they
could
become?
You
know
some
eyesores
right,
if
do
it
in
in
on
looking
at
your
map
with
the
colors,
the
so
the
blue,
how
did
how
do
you?
So
when
you
differentiate,
say
the
blue,
the
blue
doesn't
mean
that
a
truck
can't
go
in
the
blue
right.
It's.
J
The
only
yeah
the
only
way
that
they
can
the
only
way
that
they
can
operate
in
the
blue
area
is
that
is
under
the
excess
as
accessory
to
an
existing.
Basically,
you
know
food
or
drink
establishment,
so
they
so
they
they
can
operate
like
with
a
brewery.
They
can
have
an
agreement
and
operate
with
a
brewery
or
with
another
restaurant,
but
they
can't
they
can't
just
go
set
up
shop
on
a
retail
space
in
that
area
and
do
business
or
in
a
parking
lot.
D
With
that
said,
if
they
are
going
to
be
in
that
historic
district,
do
they
have
to
meet
the
historic
guidelines
of
appearance
and
do
they
have
to
go
before
the
historic
board
to
be
able
to
just
place
one
of
those
there.
D
I
just
have
two
more
things
and
I'll
I'll
get
to
them
quickly,
so
I'm
also
those
hours
I
think,
they're.
I
think
those
hours
should
be
tightened.
I
think
10
p.m
is
pretty
late
to
be
serving
food
out
of
a
truck.
You
know
you
think,
and
and
you
what
you
don't
want,
it's
these
things
to
become
attractive
nuisances
where,
whereby
you
know
they
turn
into
like
little
like
late
night
driving.
B
D
Kind
of
places
and
and
and
then
create
you
know
like,
like
we
say,
nuisances
in
the
area
because
most
restaurants
aren't
serving
until
10
o'clock
just
regular
food.
Now
that
there's,
you
know
like
the
tarpon
tavern
might
be
open,
but
it's
not
it's
more.
For
you
know
people
they're
having
you
know,
having
a
cocktail
or
something
after
they've
gone
to
dinner
there
or
somewhere
else.
So.
J
D
But
even
but
even
the
even
the
places
that
let's
say
where
you
have
a
food
truck,
that's
coming
to
accommodate
a
let's
say,
an
industrial
park
right
with
workers
and.
D
J
B
Can
I
speak
absolutely
yeah,
I'm
just
referencing
in
regards
to
the
brick
and
mortar
restaurants?
Can
they
establish?
Can
you
guys
establish
some
kind
of
a
proximity
from
a
food
truck
to
one
of
those
establishments
that
are
already
there
serving
the
people
like
a
brick
and
mortar
like?
Can
they
can
they
be?
Can
you
establish
some
kind
of
a
proximity
distance?
Let's
say
you
can
only
park
say
you
know
200
feet
away
or
whatever
justin
you
know,
considering
what
they're
doing
their
operation
and
what
the
food
truck
is
offering.
J
J
That
would
be
the
only
the
only
concern.
Let
me
can
I,
because
I'm
kind
of
hearing
kind
of
the
direction
that
that
the
discussion
is
going
for
those
that
are
the
temporary
use,
like
you
know
where
you
can
go
in
set
up
in
the
industrial
area
or
whatever
we
had
said
that,
basically,
where
retail
or
yeah,
where
retail
or
restaurants
are
permitted
use.
J
B
Correct,
okay,
all
right-
and
I'm
saying
like
for
example,
say
like
there's
a
food
truck,
that's
serving
spanish
food
and
you
have
like,
let's
say
just
for
all
instances
of
taco
bell.
They
decide
to
park
across
the
street
or
just
maybe
20
feet
away
in
the
parking
lot
that
so
to
me.
That
wouldn't
seem
understanding
acceptable.
J
So
one
one
point
of
order
with
this:
the
food
truck
has
to
happen.
They
have
to
have
permission
from
the
property
owner
to
park
and
vend.
They
can't
just
pull
into
the
lowe's
parking
lot
or
the
taco
bell
parking
lot
and
start
vending.
So
you
know
that
that's
a
matter
of
I
mean
that
you
know
what
could
that
be,
I'm
sure
it
probably
could.
But,
generally
speaking,
that's
not
you
know,
the
intent
is
not
to
give
them
free
run
of
every
every
parking
lot
up
and
down
us.
B
Well,
what
I
was
what
I
was
referencing
say:
maybe
the
you
know
the
public's
parking
lot,
there's
multiple
fast
foods
and
they
reside
the
park
in
the
parking
lot.
The
large
parking
lot-
and
you
know,
have
like
there's
a
conflict
with
the
existing
brick
and
mortars
that.
B
F
H
H
F
C
Welcome
I
have
two
thoughts
and
and
they're
mostly
administrative.
C
The
first
easy
one
is
they're
all
referred
to
as
vehicles,
but
the
one
that
you
have
in
your
example
is
a
trailer
and
is
there
any
differentiation,
because
a
vehicle
is
something
that
drives
away
and
a
trailer
is
a
trailer
and
then
I
also
saw
a
notation
that
we
didn't
want
to
have
said.
Food
vehicles
parked
in
a
way
that
couldn't
be
removed
in
an
emergency
and
if
everyone
under
5606
put
a
trailer
up,
we've
got
all
these
trailers
stuck
out
there.
That
can't
be
moved
until
they're
hooked
up.
C
C
The
second
item,
I
think
that
is
it's
real
ironic-
is
that
a
few
meetings
ago
we
went
through
laboriously
a
new
sign
code
and
in
that
sign
code
we
particularly
selected
and
discriminated
against
vehicles
as
signs,
in
other
words,
vans
or
trucks
that
came
into
parking
lots
of
restaurants
that
had
signs
and
acted
as
signs,
and
we
said
nope
can't
have
any
more
of
those.
C
In
tarpon
springs,
and
this
by
a
different
route
in
effect,
negates
that
and
invites
them
all
right
back
in,
and
everybody
gets
a
sign
as
long
as
they
can
just
call
it
a
food
truck.
I
just
think
that's
ironic.
There's
can't
have
any
effect
on
this,
but
it
certainly
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
these
trucks
sitting
in
a
lot
more
parking
lots
that
are
all
going
to
look
like
these
big
signs
that
where
we
just
tried
to
get
rid
of
the
end
of
my
comments
on
that.
J
J
Accessory
to
an
existing
restaurant
or
or
food
food,
business,
part
of
the
site
plan
or
part
of
the
review
criteria,
for
that
with
the
accessory
uses,
is
an
evacuation
plan.
So
you
know
we
would
want
those
things
to
remain
mobile.
You
you
know
you're
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
move
them
if
they're
into
it.
With
the
with
the
you
know,
with
a
powered
one
themselves
or
a
vehicle,
you
know
they
need
to
be
maintained.
The
licenses
they
need
to
be
able
to
operate.
J
J
It
is
something
good
what
we're
trying
to
do
if
we,
if
we
do
this
and
we
do
allow
them,
is
to
not
allow
them
to
become
you
know
permanent
fixtures
sitting
in
a
parking
lot
somewhere
and
the
other
thing
we're
really
trying
to
avoid
and
make
sure
it
doesn't
happen,
is
that
you
get
one
that's
sitting
on
a
vacant
piece
of
property
and
sits
there
and
just
becomes
an
ad
hoc
restaurant.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
avoid
as
well.
F
Well,
there's
there's
kind
of
two
types:
two
typical
types
of
trailers:
I
guess
when
you
get
to
the
trailers-
and
there
would
be
the
ones
that
are
more
like
a
recreational
vehicle
trailer
that
is,
is
built
to
have
wheels
and
built
to
be
towed,
and
then
you
get
the
the
mobile
home
type
trailers
where
they
actually
set
them
up
and
and
then
take
the
the
wheels
and
axles
and
everything
out
from
under
them.
It
may
be
worth
no,
we
don't
want
that
would
not
be
acceptable.
D
Is
is
it
possible
to
have
these
these?
I
know
vehicles
or
whatever
you're,
going
to
call
them
trucks
to
meet
some
kind
of
basic
sign
ordinance
requirements.
I
know
they
want
to
be.
I
know
they
want
the
whole
idea
of
them
to
be
decorative
and
such,
but
that,
but
I
think
I
think
you
hit
exactly
on
what
the
big
apprehension
is
for.
Most
people
is
one
is
that
these
things
are
just
all
over
town
and
and
just
unsightly,
and
then
that
they
are,
you
know
just
you
know
they
don't.
D
Fit
in
the
in
the
in
the
areas
that
they're
at
so
like
again
downtown
trying
to
meet
a
you
know,
have
a
certain
historic
look
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you've
got
these.
These.
You
know
crazy,
looking
vehicles
so
and
and
and
the
sponge
docks
as
well.
So
that's
that's
the
you
know.
That
would
be
a
concern.
I
I
can
see
that
that
you
know
here
in
covid
times
like,
like
mr
cuscuda
said
you
know
in
covid
times
yeah,
you
know
you,
you
put
the
picture
of
rusty
bellies.
D
I
could
see
you
know
that
could
be
very
useful
for
them
and
for
their
business
because
they
have
a
lot
of
carryouts.
They
could
have
that
food
truck
set
up
to
people
could
come
up
quicker,
get
their
food
not
have
to
go
inside
the
restaurant,
not
block
the
you
know
the
thoroughfare
and
all
that,
so
you
could
see
that
being
very
helpful
and
help
helping
their
businesses
to
thrive.
So
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
where
people
are.
D
I
think
that
that
nobody,
and
also
having
like,
like
mr
sabropolis,
said
the
it
you
know
if
they're
going
to
have
a
a
whole
different
menu.
That's
in
essence
creating
a
brand
new
restaurant.
You
know,
that's
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
sandwich
shop
and
all
of
a
sudden
they've
got
a
you
know.
D
They're
selling.
You
know
lobsters
over
here
out
of
this
food
truck
or
something
you
know
it's
it's
it's!
You
could
see
this
thing
getting
kind
of
out
of
control.
J
Those
are
all
very,
very
relevant
observations,
so.
A
I
I
I
I
also
follow
up
comments.
I
kind
of
want
to
you
know
dovetail.
I
would
justin
said
because
before
you
came
over
like
he
said
we
we
went
through
the
siding
ordinance.
One
of
the
one
of
the
discussions
we
had
was
somebody
had
a
vehicle
that
they
wrapped
okay
and
they
parked
it
permanently
in
front
of
their
establishment.
A
Is
that
a
sign
and-
and
so
so
you
know,
give
a
point
where,
if
somebody's
going
to
have
you
know
a
permanent
obvious
opposed
to
temporary,
you
know
buzz
restaurants
at
some
of
these
facilities
that
have
been
like
beer,
wine
and
they've
got
it.
They've
turned
their
proper
business
into
a
restaurant
quasi
restaurant.
This
I'm
totally
opposed
to
that.
But
let's
say
that
that
would
that
passed.
A
You
know
we'll
be
back
to
again
what
justin
said
about
the
sign,
that's
what
we
had
to
go
through
and,
and
it
was
deep
that
that
too
would
be
a
violation
of
the
side.
Ordinance
obviously
give
giving
that
some.
You
know
obviously
consideration.
So
I
I
just
I'm
just
trying
to
look
at
protecting.
I
think
we
all
are
trying
to
protect,
protect
our
bricks
and
mortar
businesses
that
pay
real
estate
taxes.
A
It's
one
thing
for
somebody
to
bring
their
business
into
the
community,
take
their
tax
dollars
and
leave,
and-
and
you
know
the
city
really,
you
know-
I
don't
know
what
benefit
they
get
from
it.
But
I
like
I,
like
the
area
plan,
have
maybe,
with
the
exception
of
the
hess
gas
station,
because
there
is
a
bricks
and
mortar
place
right
next,
but
you
wouldn't
want
somebody
to
have
a
truck
giving
the
pizza
take
out
next
to
the
pizza
place,
and
that
goes
back,
mr
what
ropel
said
so
again.
A
I
think
y'all
have
done
a
good
job
of
trying
to
try
to
narrow
down
the
locations
into
the
indus
area
or
the
the
19
corridor.
Where
those
types
of
businesses,
I
think,
would
belong.
J
Can't
can
I
just
you
know
you
can
just
I
guess
we
can
just
do
this
verbally.
Is
there
a
consensus
of
of
this
board
that
you
would
really
prefer
to
not
see
these
as
accessory
to
that
accessory
to
an
existing
restaurant
or
or
or
I'm
sorry,
existing
food
or
drink
establishment?
In
that
special
area
plan,
you
would
just
prefer
to
not
see
that
period
right
now.
A
F
I
think
it's
it.
It
gets
complicated,
eliminating
it
in
some
parts
of
town
and
not
in
other
parts
of
town,
though,
if
you're
letting
a
brewery
in
one
location
do
it
and
not
letting
a
brewery
in
another
location,
do
it,
but
just
for
example,
like
I
would
sort
of
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
think.
C
If
I
may,
I'd
provide,
maybe
just
a
thought
experiment
on
renee
on
your
question
there
I'll
just
use
an
example
that
has
already
been
brought
up.
Let's
use
the
tarpon
tavern
bless
his
heart.
C
So
if
we
followed
your
what
you
were
looking
for
on
consensus,
that
existing
restaurants
cannot
have
an
accessory
use,
but
yet
mr
owner,
at
tarpon
tavern
would
like
one
but
he's
not
allowed,
but
yet
there's
a
vacant
lot
just
to
the
east,
and
lo
and
behold
that
owner
agrees
to
allow
someone
to
drag
a
a
drive
drive
a
vehicle
on
there,
and
so
mr
owner
of
tarpon
tavern,
can't
have
one
of
his
own,
even
though
he
would
like
to
expand
and
serve
more
folks.
C
J
Well
and
and
yeah
to
clarify
a
bit
on
just
looking
at
that
particular
instance:
the
the
id
you
the
way
this
is
drafted
now
you
would
not
be
able
to
just
put
one
on
a
vacant
lot,
so
it
would
have
to
be
that's
why
we
want
it
had
to
be
accessory
to
an
existing
food
or
drink
establishment.
J
So
that,
and
so
so
tarpon
tavern
is
a
good
example.
They
don't
even
have
the
room,
so
they
functionally
couldn't
do
it
anyway.
You
know,
so
there
has
to
be
the
the
circuit.
The
side
circumstances
have
to
have
to
work
with
you
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
that.
You've
got
to
have
some
kind
of
an
area
on
your
site
to
be
able
to
set
one
up
so
like
rusty
bellies
is
a
good
example.
They've
got
the
trailer
that
sits
in
that
patio
area.
It's
not
it's
not
blocking
parking,
it's
not
obstructing
anything.
J
It's
in.
In
that
instance.
It's
actually,
you
know
it's
an
arm
of
their
business.
So
that's
a
little
bit
different
than
say.
You
know
if
one
of
the
breweries
that
you
know
if
they've
got
room
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
some
kind
of
food
service
versus
you
know
they
can
maybe
contract
with
you
know
a
provider
to
come
in
and
set
up,
for
you
know
the
hours
of
five
to
9
p.m
or
something
you
know.
J
Maybe
it's
not
every
day,
maybe
it's
whatever,
but
they
you
know
you
have
to
have
the
place
to
be
able
to
set
up,
and
you
know
you
still,
you
can't
take
up
your
required
parking,
so
you've
got
to
have
fundamentally
some
some
space
to
work
with.
So
that's
going
to
inherently
set
up
some
inequities.
I
mean
there's
just
no
way
around
it.
C
So
if,
if
I
may,
I'm
sorry
chairman-
I
I
think
I'm
misunderstanding
something
could
I
could
I
get
a
clarification
from
renee.
First
5605
mobile
food
dispensing
vehicles,
temporary
they're
they're
not
married
to
an
existing
restaurant.
If
I
understand
that
they
can
be
at
a
retail
location.
J
J
H
J
H
C
C
In
regards
so
someone
can
set
up
a
food
and
beverage
dispenser
without
access
to
a
bathroom,
which
I
think
is
personally
bad
manners
and
not
have
any
ada
requirements
that
a
brick
and
mortar
would
be
required
to
have,
because
that
means
that,
for
example,
food
or
a
thought,
experiment,
someone
who
is
handicapped
in
a
wheelchair
can't
access
that
same
window
such
as
everybody
else,
get
changed
and
do
such
I'm
not
being
a
nabob.
I
love
food
trucks,
but
there
just
seems
to
be
a
tremend
that
they're
given
so
much
latitude
that
everyone
else
isn't.
C
J
I
Yeah,
as
far
as
you
know,
the
the
mobile
food
truck
is
already
defined
by
virtue
of
the
statute,
all
the
permitting
and
regulation,
as
far
as
that
is,
is
preempted
to
the
state
so
keep
in
mind.
These
are
not
restaurants,
they're,
not
even
mobile
restaurants.
They
are
legitimately
just
vehicles
of
which
you
serve
food
out
of
there's
no
tables
being
set
up,
there's
no
dining
near
there
or
picnic
tables,
or
anything
like
that.
I
It
is
a
get
up,
get
your
food
and
come
out
if
they
are
going
to
make
an
accommodation
for
somebody
in
a
wheelchair.
They
can
certainly
come
out
of
the
truck
and
help
them
or
out
of
the
trailer,
but
that's
not
something
that
the
city
can
regulate,
especially
by
virtue
of
this
ordinance.
The
only
thing
that
the
city
can
regulate
is
where
they're
allowed
to
operate.
I
K
Sense,
but
we
could
add
to
the
5605
that
the
retail
or
whatever
area,
that's
allowing
them
that
they
have
access
to
a
bathroom
like.
I
We
did
another
one,
it's
going
to
be
more,
be
like
a
like
a
zoning
issue,
so
you're
not
necessarily
going
to
be
able
to
say
you
can
only
park
them
from
the
time
period
of
five
to
nine
or
whatever
you're
so
choosing
your
hours
to
be.
But
you
must
be
located
near
a
restroom,
a
place
where
they
can
sit
down
and
eat
this
thought
and
the
other
you're
you're.
I
think
you
will
find
that
you
are
unable
to
do
so.
I
It
literally
the
statute
reads:
regulation
is
preempted
to
the
state,
but
a
municipality
county
or
other
local
government
entity
cannot
prohibit
the
food
trucks
they
can
regulate.
The
operation
of
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicles
other
than
the
regulations
prescribed
in
subsection
two,
which
is
regulation
of
licensing
registration
permits
and
fees.
So
I
mean
perhaps
you
could
do
that.
I
would
be
very
cautious
in
that,
but
it
doesn't
specifically
prohibit
you
from
doing
that.
J
I
think
the
other,
the
other
thing
that
when
we
were
drafting
this,
I
I
coordinated
through
several
different
departments
to
make
sure
that
we
were
trying
to
capture
as
much
as
we
could
and
one
thing
I
was
very
cognizant
of-
was
enforcement,
and
so
it
started
out
being
a
much
more
complex
ordinance
than
it
is
right
now,
because
when
it
gets
down
to
it
from
an
enforcement
standpoint,
you
know
officer
gaston
needs
to
be
able
to
say
hey,
you
know
all
right,
they're
in
the
red
area
and
they're
operating
between
eight,
and
maybe
it's
not
ten.
J
Maybe
it's!
You
know
six
something
earlier
so
they're
they're
legal
and
they
can
have
one
one
per
parcel.
I
mean
that's
something:
that's
that's
easy
to
regulate
as
soon
as
you
start
getting
into
things
like
bathrooms
and
thing
now,
you're
getting
the
building
officials
involved
and
you're
getting
so
it
becomes
much
more
complex
to
regulate
so
simplicity
from
the
from
that
temporary
use.
Standpoint
was
something
that
we
were
trying
to
achieve
with
this.
Maybe
maybe
we
went
too
far.
F
J
As
accessory,
yes,
I
think
there
we
have.
That
was
a
discussion
point
that
I
was
hoping
to
get
some
input
in.
I
think
we
could
say
if
it's
going
to
be
something
that's
accessory
to
the
food
or
drink
establishment
that
that
that
primary
food
or
drink
establishment
should
have
a
minimum
of
you
know,
pick
a
number
50
seats,
something
that
that
does
trigger
the
fact
that
it
has
bathrooms
and
that's
why
we
also
required
that
operational
agreement,
whatever
that
may
be
whatever
form
that
would
be.
J
You
know
we
haven't
defined
that
yet
between
the
business,
the
primary
business
owner
and
the
food
truck,
so
that
right,
the
food
truck
basically
said
you
look,
you
know
your
patrons
have
to
have
access
to
that
restaurant
to
their
seating
to
their
bathrooms,
their
facilities.
That's
the
way
this
works,
so
that
was
the
intent.
A
A
You
know
permanent
or
you
know,
in
a
permanent
place,
and
you
know
so:
they've
got
the
bathroom.
They've
got
the
place
where
people
could
go
in
and
eat
or
or
eat
outside,
and
that's
where
the
the
traditional
bricks
and
mortar
restaurants
are
being
affected
by
somebody
not
having
to
meet
what
the
bricks
and
mortar
restaurants
have
to
meet
and
they
in
essence
have
established
a
restaurant
without
having
to
go
through
the
process
of
creating
a
restaurant.
A
If
I
don't
that
illustration
is
a
good
one,
but
that's
well.
J
Well
and
I'll
I'll,
just
throw
this
out
for
for
food
for
thought,
because
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
that
we
have
in
the
docs
area
and
actually
some
of
the
parts
of
downtown,
is
in
trying
to
establish
not
just
a
restaurant
but
any
new
business.
You
know
from
brick
and
mortar
the
base.
Flood
elevation
requirements
are
really
difficult
to
deal
with,
and
so
the
you
know
to
go
down
to
the
docks
and
try
to
establish
a
restaurant
today
under
and
meet
the
minimum
based
flood
elevation
requirements.
That
alone
is
hideously
expensive.
J
You
either
have
to
elevate
it
way
up
or
you
got
to
flood
proof
of
building.
So
you
know,
one
of
the
thoughts
is
that
you
know
it
is
relatively
simple
to
put
in
covered
seating
and
establish
a
tiki
bar,
and
those
things
are
much
easier
to
deal
with
from
a
flood
zone
perspective
and
the
mobile
food
truck
allows
that
restaurant
is,
you
know,
type
of
establishment
without
having
to
spend
that
kind
of
money.
This
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
problem.
You
know
for
forever
down
at
the
docks.
J
You
know
because
it's
you
know
so
from
a
from
the
standpoint
of
at
least
allowing
businesses
to
be
trying
to
begin
to
get
operational
before
they
can
invest
the
money
into
brick
and
mortar.
That's
a
discussion
point,
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
defense,
a
discussion
point.
J
A
D
For
the
city
attorney
attorney
the
if
I
know
that
they
have,
they
have
now
the
state
law
that
allows
for
food
trucks,
and
we
can
limit
obviously
some
of
the
usage
of
the
food
trucks.
But
where
do
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
limit
them?
So
much
that
you
are
in
violation
of
state
law?
D
D
And
then
that
little
square,
but
if
you
were
to
say
okay,
you
picked
some
the
pinks
and
you
you
and
you
say:
okay,
that's
all
that
you're
they're
allowed
to
go,
and
nowhere
else
is
that
limitation
or
would
that
cause
us
problems
by
being
by
that
much
limitation.
I
So
I
don't,
I
don't
think
so.
I
mean,
if
you're
picking
a
specific
zoning
district
and
saying
you're
only
having
this
permissible
use
within
this
zoning
district.
If
you've
functionally
made
it
to
that
food
trucks
cannot
operate
within
that
zoning
district
district,
then
yes,
you
have
functionally
prohibited
them
from
operating
within
your
city
limit
that
becomes
problematic.
That
will
likely
be
hashed
out
through
the
court
system
to
in
a
challenge
to
your
ordinance
or
in
some
sort
of
code
enforcement
capacity.
I
But
if,
if
you
pick
places
like
you,
you
have
put
before
you
that
running
is
put
before
you
pick
places
that
they
could
operate,
there's
at
least
a
potential,
even
if
it
is
limited.
As
long
as
it
is
fair
and
reasonable
that
there
are
places
they
can
operate,
I
I
don't
think
that
you're
going
to
have
a
problem.
I
think
it's
defensible.
I
Well-
and
I
I
and
I
know
that
you're
talking
about
regulating
the
permit
for
a
conditional-
u
conditional
use
permit.
My
only
concern
with
that
is
that
the
preemption
is
specific
to
licenses
registration
permits
and
fees,
and
it
specifically
lists
a
permit.
I
I
I
I
think,
like
I
said,
I
still
think
it
it.
You
can
try
it
and-
and
there
may
be
a
challenge
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
courts
might
say
no,
but
the
the
the
way
that
statutory
interpretation
works
is
that
they
leave.
The
judge
is
going
to
read
the
plain
language
of
the
statute.
The
plain
language
of
the
statute
says
permit
and
they
don't
have
to
go
any
further
than
that.
I
They
don't
have
to
look
at
the
legislative
intent
to
find
out
what
the
legislature
meant
by
permit
they're
just
going
to
say
you
put
a
secondary,
permitting
process
on
this.
The
permitting
process
was
preempted
to
the
state,
and
you
violated
that
preemption.
There
may
be
a
different
mechanism
by
which
you
can
go
through
a
process
like
that.
H
I
That
right
and
and
maybe
but
you're
still
allowing
some
sort
of
a
license
or
some
sort
of
permit
or
some
sort
of
a
some
sort
of
efficacy
to
what
they're
doing,
based
on
criteria
that
you're
putting
in
your
code.
That's
you
know
or
some
administrative
process,
so
I
I
think
that
you,
you
may
be
able
to
get
around
it.
I
just
think
that
that's
going
to
be,
you
got
to
be
just
very
careful
how
you
do
it.
J
I
Yeah
and-
and
I
and
I
think
the
reason
you
know
the
other
reason
for
that
too,
is
because
you
start
getting
into
criteria.
You
start
getting
into
some
sort
of
equal
protection
issues
where
you're
saying
well.
This
person
was
allowed
to
operate
their
food
truck
in
this
capacity
in
this
type
of
a
scenario
I'm
trying
to
do
the
same
or
similar
thing,
and
I'm
being
told
I
can't
because
of
whatever
reason,
but
the
state
says
I
have
a
permit
to
operate
and
I
can
operate
within
your
jurisdictional
boundaries.
I
D
J
J
J
We,
you
know,
we
simply
have
said
you
know
you
can't
you
can't
operate,
but
that
was
always
also
done
in
conjunction
with
what
used
to
be
called
an
occupational
license,
which
we
don't
those
we
don't
have
those
anymore
they're,
business,
tax
receipts,
so
they're
attacks,
but
under
the
old
regulations
that
are
still
in
place,
that's
just
a
different
name.
Now
you
know
the
closest
thing
that
you
had
was
a
peddler
license,
which
said
you
had
to
move
every
15
minutes
so
that
effectively
just
kind
of
like
the
short
answer
for
anybody.
J
J
We
can
certainly
bifurcate
these
and
that's
why
it's
why
I
wrote
those
separately,
so
you
know
we
can.
We
can
recommend
adoption
of
one
and
not
the
other.
That's
not
a
problem.
You
know
again
as
long
as
we're
providing
you
know
for
an
adequate
area
for
them
to
operate
under.
You
know
reasonable
conditions.
I
think
you
know
I'll
defer
to
the
attorney,
but
I
think
we're
okay.
We
just
can't
say
that
you
can't
do
them
all
together.
The
5606
was
really
a
rising.
J
L
K
A
J
Yeah
we
we
do,
you
know
we,
we
have
looked
at
what
other
communities
are
doing
and
it's
really
kind
of
all
over
the
place.
Some
of
people
some
have
had.
You
know,
regulations
in
place
for
quite
some
time.
Dunedin
does
saint
pete.
Does
you
know
the
county?
Just
doesn't
regulate
them
at
all?
You
know
they
just.
L
A
J
They're
they
are
looser
than
you
would
expect
they.
They
do
have
a
there's.
Some
there's
some
food
trucks
down
there
that
you
may
not
even
realize
are
food
trucks
because
they've
kind
of
built
facades
in
front
of
them
and
things.
But
you
know
more
on
on
the
like
the
skinner
boulevard
type
of
area
than
on
like
on
actual
downtown
main
street.
A
A
But,
but
still
that
that
there,
you
got
your
okay,
so,
mr
chairman,
I
think
biblicating
it.
Whoever
suggested
that.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
if
mr
chairman,
if
you'd
like
to
have
me,
make
a
motion
on
the
first
person.
I
And
also,
I
would
just
to
piggyback
on
what
vice
chair
couscouda
said.
As
far
as
the
regulations,
my
understanding
and
my
reading
of
the
legislation
that's
been
put
in
front
of
you
is
that
these
trucks
are
not
allowed
to
be
parked
in
those
locations
unless
they
are
operating.
So
if
you
regulate
from
not
five
to
nine,
they
can
be
parked
there
from
five
to
nine
and
at
901
they
need
to
pack
up
and
get
out.
So
I
don't
know.
I
I
If
that's,
if
that's
my
correct
understanding
rene.
So
I
think
that
that
is
helpful
to
to
the
regulation
that
you
were
talking
about.
Mr
kuz
kudus.
A
J
Something
that
we
didn't
we
didn't
fully
address,
I
mean,
I
think
the
intent
was
that
you
could
leave
them
there.
You
know
for
periods
of
time
as
if
it's
approved
as
that
accessory
to
a
food
or
drink
establishment,
not
not
the
the
temporary.
You
know
daily
operations.
You
know
like
out
on
us
19
or
something
so.
C
C
I'd
like
to
voice
my
support
of
chair
siemens
concept
of
perhaps
focusing
on
5605,
it
seems
the
most
straightforward.
C
I
like
the
idea
that
they're
to
quote
our
board
attorney
they're
packing
up
and
going
home
for
the
night
every
night.
I
I
like
that.
I
think
that
I
could
support
that
idea
of
the
stricter
portion
and
then
look
later
at
56.06
and
if
we
did
in
regards
to
5606,
should
we
address
that
at
some
point
I
don't
think
it
would
be
honest
with
ourselves
that
anything
other
than
a
permanent
structure
would
occur
with
those
accessory
structures.
J
We
do
have
a
we
have
a
whole
temporary
use
section
of
the
of
the
code
and
that's
how
they
have
addressed
this
in
the
past
is
to
allow
which
is
a
90-day,
temporary
use,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know-
and
you
can
get
an
extension
to
that.
So
I
think
that's
probably
I
mean
there
is
a
there's,
an
outlet
there
if,
if
they're
so
desired,
it's
already
in
our
code,
you
just
can't
do
it
forever
as
a
temporary
use.
K
I
have
two
comments.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
5605
for
the
temporary.
We
only
talked
about
having
one
truck
per
parcel
and
I'm
wondering
about
especially
like
an
industrial
park.
You've
got
the
one
truck
comes
in,
and
it's
mexican
that
day
and
I
don't
want
mexican.
You
know
like.
I
think
that
there
could
be
depending
maybe
on
square
footage.
If
they
have.
You
know
the
lowest
parking
lots
huge.
They
could
have
two
food
trucks
there.
K
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
kind
of
built
in
somehow
to
have
okay
spaces
available,
that
they
could
have
trucks
available
for
that
and
then
for
56.06,
a
question
I
have
is:
can
we
separate
food
and
drink
establishments?
I'm
thinking
a
brewery?
Their
main
purpose
is
they're
doing
a
brewery
and
you
know
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
food.
K
You
know
to
patrons
that
are
there
that
will
need
a
little
snack
to
go
with
their
drink,
so
they're
really
not
becoming
a
restaurant
owner.
They
really
have
no
interest
and
then
they
could
totally
contract
that
out
and
get
a
contractor,
but
yet
a
food
establishment
using
rusty
bellies.
As
an
example,
you
know
it's
kind
of
an
extension
of
their
restaurant
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
put
restrictions
on
like
that
and
kind
of
separate
those
two.
K
I
think
that
sometimes,
when
they're
all
together,
then
there's
two
totally
for
me
different
ways
to
look
at
it,
whether
it's
a
food
or
a
drink,
establishment.
J
And
yes,
your
you
can.
I
think
there
are
ways
to
do
that.
If,
if
the
interest
is
you
know,
you're,
okay
with
you
know,
being
accommodating,
if
you
want
to
call
it
that,
to
you
know,
you've
got
an
existing
restaurant
and
like
rusty
bellies,
and
I
want
yeah,
they
want
to
add,
you
know
a
you
know
a
sushi
truck
or
they
want
to
have
a
taco
truck
or
something
that
is
explicitly
part
of
their
business,
and
you
know
they're.
J
K
Okay,
I
just
I'm
having
a
hard
time
when
you
bucket
them
together.
So
that's
I'd
like
to
understand,
because
I
think
that
there's
valid
points
for
for
both
or
different
restrictions
or
something
that
you
would
do.
F
Then
I
believe
that
brings
us
down
to
to
public
comment
and
I
think
we
we
usually
take
up
the
the
public
comment
we've
received
through
email
or
in
the
mail
first,
don't
we.
F
Do
we
have
do
do
we
want
to
hear
the
the
comments
that
we've
got,
that
that
came
in
the
mail
or
by
email,
or
do
we
just
or
may
we
just
consider
those
into
the
record,
because
we
have
them
here.
J
I
mean
they're
I'll
defer
to
the
attorneys
the
proper
way
to
do
this.
They
were
emailed
out
they're
they're,
fairly
old
correspondents,
but
they
they
do
pertain
to
the
subject
matter
at
hand.
So
it's
a
that's
two
emails
that
we
received
in
the
department
when
erin
lemons
did
her
her
outreach
to
the
business
community.
H
I
And
I
would
defer
to
you,
mr
chairman:
they
there's
not
necessarily
to
be
read
into
the
record,
because
they're
not
responsive
to
the
agenda
item
placed
on
tonight's
meeting
specific
to
this
meeting.
They
were
for
a
different
outreach,
but
if
you
want
to
read
them
into
the
record
so
that
we
have
a
more
complete
record
and
everyone
can
understand
what
we're
talking
about
it's
completely
up
to
you.
F
Noted
for
the
record,
I'm
sorry
you
you
set
out
for
just
a
second.
I
thought
you
said,
read
them!
Oh,
no,
I'm
sorry
all
right!
Okay,
then,
do
we
in
in
a
case
like
this,
do
we
deal
with
affected
parties
or
is
it
just
all
public
comment.
F
All
right,
I
guess
we'll
close
public
comment,
then
I
believe
it
would
be
appropriate
time
to
entertain
a
motion.
Mr
scootis,
if
you'd
like
to
go
back
to
what
you
were
doing.
A
As
with
the
first
part
of
the
ordinance,
it
was
51
50,
56.05
56
to
5..
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
that
the
the
the
I
guess
that
we
recommend
adoption
of
the
ordinance.
K
L
J
A
So
I've
got
the
motion,
so
if
anybody
wants
a
second,
we
discuss
reducing
the
hours
of
operation
based
on
our
recommendation.
F
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
yes,
you're
right.
We
should
have
discussion
on
the
motion.
A
D
D
Now
we're
looking
at
this,
this
5605,
which
has
all
these
again
opportunities
for
food
trucks
and
existing
businesses
and
such
I
I'm
in
favor
of
very
strict
limitations
on
these
food
trucks.
I
would
limit
them
to
the
red
areas
as
adjusted.
D
Obviously
I
think
there's
some
I
I
mean
I
definitely
wouldn't
want
a
food
truck
near
the
the
high
school
that
would
hurt
an
existing
restaurant
right
next
door,
but
I
think
that
that's
the
best
way
to
go
that
rather
than
us,
opening
up
this
door
to
these
establishments
that
we
limit
their
hours
that
they're
in
these
outside
they're
in
the
industrial
areas
they're
on
us
19,
they
don't
affect
downtown
at
all.
D
They
don't
affect
the
docks
at
all,
and
we
that
that's
what
I
would
be
in
favor
of
and
we'd
obviously
limit
their
time,
because
10
o'clock
is,
is,
I
think,
way
too
late.
I
I
would,
I
don't
think
if
they're,
if
they're,
really
servicing
industrial
parks
and
then
there
will
be
no
reason
to
be
there
past
six
o'clock.
D
A
a
food
truck
in
anywhere
in
the
historic
district
or
the
sponge
docks,
just
because
somebody
has
a
restaurant
that
they
could
put
a
food
truck
in
areas.
These
are
the
areas
that
we
want
to
protect
most.
This
is
this
is
our
town
and
that's
I'm
that's
what
my
my
limitations
are
to
stay
limited
state,
keep
it
real
tight
and
that
way
we
abide
by
the
state
law,
but
we
don't
start
accommodating
something
that
we
never
wanted
to
start
with.
D
A
Think
my
motion,
mr
kulianis,
restricts
it
to
the
the
the
the
area
map
that
this
vincent
had
provided
because
that's
the
first
part
of
the
ordinance.
So
that's
that's
that's
my
motion.
If,
if
somebody
then
I'm
not
opposed
to
to
amending
my
motion
to
to
restrict
the
time
further
than
ten
o'clock,
I
can
amend
my
motion.
If
somebody
wants
to
make
a
suggestion,
I.
F
Go
to
six,
I
I
tend
to
think
it
depends
on
where
they're
located
really
in
the
industrial
district,
absolutely
everybody's
out
of
there.
It
lows,
probably
everybody's
out
of
there
by
eight
some
other
place
it.
It
may
be
different
at
every
one.
So
I
don't
know
what
how
to
address
that
other
than
to
say
that
maybe
they
can't
be
open
any
later
than
the
adjacent
establishment
or
something
I
don't
know.
Yeah.
D
But
those
could
have
they
could
they
could
open
up
until
11.
okay?
Why
do
we
want
to?
Why
would
somebody
why
do
we
want
to
serve
dinner
at
lowe's?
We
let
let
the
people
go
to
the
restaurants
in
the
area.
There's
there's
lots
of
nice
restaurants
on
on
19..
Let
the
people
go
there.
This,
I
think,
just
the
the
again
we're
doing
this,
because
we're
mandated
by
the
state
so
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
accommodate
lows
or
how
we
accommodate
any
of
these
establishments
with
food.
Again,
it's
it
it
is.
D
It
is
going
to
eat
into
that's
food
they're
not
going
to
buy
in
one
of
the
brick
and
mortar
stores.
So
I
think
we
keep
this
thing
super
tight.
We
we
keep
it
in
in
industrial
areas.
We
keep
it
on
19.,
that's
going
to
minimize
the
amount
of
time
the
the
opportunity
that
they
eat
in
the
in
one
of
those
food
trucks
versus
eating
at
a
restaurant
nearby.
A
I
guess
I
just
need
to
stand
on
my
motion
because
I'm
I'm
not
gonna
come
with
the
time.
Unless
we
have
consensus,
I
mean
so
I'll,
just
I'll
just
stay
with
my
motion,
I
did.
Did
the
ordinance
provide
till
10
o'clock.
J
A
You
know
what
let
me,
let
me
amend
my
motion
with
with
what
the
mr
chairman
had
suggested.
As
long
as
the
the
business
is
is
the
adjacent
business
is
open
as
far
as
industrial
parks
when
they
close
down
at
five
or
six
o'clock,
then
then
that's
that
would
be
if
it's,
if
it
blows,
if
they're
open
until
nine
or
ten
o'clock,
you
know
if
somebody's
gonna
get
a
hot
dog
or
something
like
that,
and
that
so
be
it.
J
A
Well
that
the
the
the
addition
is
that
the
the
adjacent
they
can
only
operate
the
same
hours
as
the
adjacent
business.
H
J
H
B
A
I
Okay,
so
if
do
you
second,
the
amendment
whoever
seconded
the
first
motion,
needs
to
second,
the
amended
motion
where
it
will
fail.
A
D
F
D
G
G
K
G
J
A
Okay,
my
my
motion
is,
is
to
reject
the
second
part
of
the
ordinance.
D
F
The
I
I
would
just
in
in
comment
I'd
like
to
say
I
would.
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
a
significantly
revised
version
of
that.
If
I
mean
this,
the
city
commission
may
choose
to
to
pass
or
fail
the
whole
thing
and
there
may.
It
may
be
all
a
moot
point,
but
I
I
think
there
are
people
out
there
that
that
need
some
help
right
now
and
I'd
I'd
like
to
look
at
some
way
that
that
could
help
some
of
those
people
even
it's
if
it
is
a
temporary
situation.
F
So
just
speaking
as
one
person
I'd
like
to
see
potential
for
future
consideration
of
that,
but
but
would
agree
with
you
know,
voting
it
down
at
this
point.
K
I
would
also
like
to
see
it
rewritten
a
little
bit.
I'm
thinking
backdrafts
goes
over
to
silver
king
and
provides
pizza
for
the
silver
king
brewery
customers.
I
mean
that's
two
businesses
that
are
winning,
so
I
think
that
there
is
opportunity
for
this.
It
just
needs
to
be
kind
of
rewritten
a
little
bit.
In
my
opinion,
thanks.
L
F
All
right,
if
there's
no
further
discussion,
can
we
have
a
roll
call.
G
Okay,
so
no
mrs
mccumber.
K
J
F
F
All
right
item
number
five
board
comments.
I
have
one
quick
one.
I
I
just
wanted
to
say:
welcome
back
renee
and
and
welcome
john
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
with
us.
F
All
right
did,
I
just
say
we
stand.
I
never
remember
this
part,
we
stand
adjourned
or
do
we
have
to
vote
on
that.